NEW ERA!

Not sure how I got here, but I had to use my old password . . not through yahoo anymore.

It is on the era4us site.
http://era4us.wordpress.com/

Yippee….

We have arrived….

BTW Joanna the BC BO forum Rancho talked about is called Documenting Obama…

Ah home sweet home!

But you truly did a wonderful job at era4us Joanna.
I like the idea of this being a private blog and not subject to lurkerslike rumproast et al.,

How come we do not need a code, I thought it was a private forum?
I was hoping we would have had at least 12 pumas, well we only need four more to get twelve…that should be easy.

Also, when we have prowls, I would like to include the whole pumapac group to send out emails or faxes also.

Perhaps when we do have prowls, we can get it posted on the main puma blog and encourage our members to help us out…

Also, ERA team once we get our puma legs and understand the lay of the ERA land, what I was thinking we can create is a mission statement for ERA/Now.
Something to the effect that our mission is to advance the efforts of countless millions of men and women who have fought to have the ERA finally ratified and we ask all women to join the fight regardless of policical affiliation.

Join us in our effort, it is simple, it is kind of like you tell two people and they tell two people and so on and so on until the whole of America understand that the Equal Rights Amendment need to be ratified.

Women should have had that right since the signing of the American Constitution and we shall wait no longer!

We want ERA in 2009 in honor of Alice Palmer!

This is not a private blog right now.

TerryDo
“What are you referring to, It is on the era4us site.”
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How will that site be used.

Joanna
This is not a private blog right now.
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Where will we blog privately?

I know, I know. I ask lots of questions! That’s what I’m KNOWN FOR.
It takes a while for it all to sink in, for me.

Representative Lindsley Smith
District: 92
County: Washington
Address: 340 N. Rollston Ave.
Fayetteville , AR 72701
Phone: 479-443-9706
eMail: smithl@arkleg.state.ar.us
More: Link to Arkansas Legislature
for Committee Information

Yes, tomorrow we can send her a thank you email and ask her how we can help to advance her/our cause of ERA…

16 TerryDo 01.02.09 at 12:43 am

Representative Lindsley Smith
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In continuation with that post which I forgot to add Lindsley Smith’s comments:

Rep. Lindsley Smith, D-Fayetteville, whose resolution proposing state ratification of the ERA was narrowly defeated in committee during the 2007 session, said she plans to bring back the resolution during the 2009 session and is confident it will pass this time.

“We’re now in the column of 15 (states) that say gender equality is a bad idea.

What this would do would make us No. 36 of the states that say gender equality is a good idea, and that’s a great column to be in,” she said.

Wooohooo, we have a little place on the blog and like we have a private place too.
Thanks for your work JoJo.

Interesting text on Wikipedia:

The Republican Party included support of the ERA in its platform beginning in 1944, renewing the plank every four years until 1980.[3] The ERA was strongly opposed by the American Federation of Labor and other labor unions, who did not want to compete with women,[3] as well as by Eleanor Roosevelt and most New Dealers, who contended that women needed government help and should not be forced into the workplace to compete with men. The Act was opposed by most northern Democrats, who aligned themselves with the anti-ERA labor unions and supported by southern Democrats.[3] Beginning in 1972, the Democrats included support of the ERA in their platform.[3]

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BillieJo 01.02.09 at 3:13 am

Wooohooo, we have a little place on the blog and like we have a private place too.
Thanks for your work JoJo.
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Where is the private Forum BillieJo??? I thought we the team were going to get a password that only we can leave comments and articles and suggestions and plan strategy, so what is happening that I have not heard about yet….

cjv:
I am thinking when attempting to draft a letter to Snith on seeing how, if possible we can help be it writing to the editor (of any Arkansas papaers), calling writing Larry Cox, etc.

Yes, agreed! This could be a very big action!

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MKfromLA 01.02.09 at 7:52 pm

Dear ERA team:
BTW we have already harvested info via your wordpress blog … we have 18 entries marked as ERA supporters. The list includes websites, blogs, members of state legislatures, etc.

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Thank you MKfromLA, where can we find that list and what is the title the list is under I would be ideal to also post it to our Private Forum for blogging etc.

@ #29

BillieJo, I just came to post this site, and see you did, right? Good site:

“The Equal Rights Amendment” website
http://www.equalrightsamendment.org/

TerryDo 01.03.09 at 12:47 am

Your comment is awaiting moderation.

What is that why would my comment be awaiting moderation???

This is what the ERA is/was up against and what we are also up against..This is what the ANTI ERA have printed up and distributed . The Fear Mongering in this list is unbelievable.

ERA — Do You Know WHAT It Means?

The proposed 27th amendment to the U.S. Constitution, known as the “Equal Rights Amendment” will invalidate all state and federal laws which impose different obligations on men and women:

ERA will invalidate all state laws which require a husband to support his wife. These laws, designed to protect the most important unit of society, the FAMILY, will be replaced by a new principle making women EQUALLY liable for financial responsibilities. The stability of families will be undermined by this drastic change in wives’ legal status.

ERA will wipe out state laws that exempt a wife from her husband’s debts even if the husband has deserted her and she has children to support.

ERA will repeal all anti-abortion laws, and deprive congress and the state legislatures of their right to enact future anti-abortion laws or laws regulating abortion.

ERA will harm divorced women by wiping out any presumption of child custody ¬ or alimony ¬ even for senior women. Orders for child support will be even harder to enforce.

ERA will require 18 year-old girls to register with the military lottery system ¬ the draft ¬ along with the boys.

ERA will take away congress’ right to exempt women if it should become necessary to draft men.

ERA will not allow special treatment for women in the army. Unlike Israeli women who are drafted for shorter terms of non-combat duty in separate units, American women will be equally obligated to serve in combat units and on warships.

ERA will wipe out state labor laws and guidelines which benefit women in industry who do heavy, manual work.

ERA will take away the right of a wife or widow to receive social security benefits based on her husband’s earnings.

ERA will take broad legislative powers away from the state legislatures, and transfer them to congress and the federal courts, which are LEAST responsive to public opinion:

ERA will not give women “equal pay for equal work”. ERA can add nothing to the Civil Rights Act of 1964, The Equal Employment Opportunity Act of 1972, and a multitude of federal and state laws and executive orders in regard to employment.

ERA will not improve present educational opportunities for women which have already been mandated by Title IX of the Education Amendments of 1972, and H.E.W. regulations.

ERA will not protect privacy between the sexes in hospitals, prisons, schools, or public accommodations.

ERA will not wipe out discrimination against women in getting credit. This has recently been ordered by the Depository Institutions Amendments of 1974.

ERA will not automatically extend women’s benefits to men. Courts do not write laws, but they do strike them down.

ERA will not, as proponents say “give” women the right to serve on juries…start a business…get a mortgage…control their own property…or become “mature, adult persons” under the law. All these things were made possible YEARS ago.

Did you believe this hogwash, how uninformed are some people.

TerryDo 01.03.09 at 12:56 am [edit]
This is what the ERA is/was up against and what we are also up against..This is what the ANTI ERA have printed up and distributed . The Fear Mongering in this list is unbelievable.

We need to dispel this falsity. We need to find others who already have dispelled these. We need to arm ourselves with the truth against these claims.

TerryDo oops 5 links. sorry.
sheesh I was tired last night, meant: when more than 5 links, post in successive comments, i.e: 1/3 2/3, 3/3, etc. NOT: Break the up as 1/3, 1/2. 1 of 3 etc.

http://www.law.umaryland.edu/marshall/usccr/documents/cr12se9.pdf

You may want to read Sex Bias in the U.S. Code: A Report on the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights by Ruth Bader Ginsburg, a pro-ERA advocate, now Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg.

It addresses some of the “fear-mongering” in post 34. Some of the things listed in that post seem to be true, however, according to this report.

Ginsburg’s book seems to make clear that ERA would abolish the wife’s and widow’s benefits in Social Security. She said, “Congress and the President should direct their attention to the concept that pervades the Code that the adult world is divided into two classes – independent men, whose primary responsibility is to win bread for a family, and dependent women, who primary responsibility is to care for children and household. This concept must be eliminated from the code if it is to reflect the equality principle.”

Now a woman can get social security benefits from their husband’s/former husband’s benefits. This is particularly beneficial for those women who have chosen to work in the home as a homemaker and/or those women who have chosen to work outside the home after their children have grown.

What?? Are TerryDo and Murphy the Numberati now??

There are three types of people in the world: Those who are good with numbers, and those who aren’t good with numbers.

I found this on the http://www.eracampaign.net/news.html page:

Note: The Democratic Party Platform had included support for the ERA from 1944 through 2000, but in 2004, explicit mention of the ERA was omitted, apparently resulting from an over-eager effort to reduce the length of the platform. While there was a strong ORAL affirmation of the party’s support for the ERA when the platform was read (and approved) at the Democratic convention that year, ERA advocates recognized that assertive campaigning would help ensure not only that the omission from the written platform would not be repeated this year, but also that the wording would be clear and unequivocal.

This is one of the way we can get the ERA Ratified.

Women will have to work towards drastic political reform in order to get the ERA ratified in America.

And I propose we begin by taking a page right out of the maestro himself, Saul Alinsky’s book
“Rules for Radicals”

In this scenario the Enemy in this case is (THE GOVERNMENT)

Rule #1.Power is not only what you have but what the enemy the (Government) thinks you have.
Right now the (Government) thinks we do not have any power, and we the “women” think that we do not have any power.
We have to reverse that power and the enemy will soon feel the full power of 51% of Americans and they will discover just how much power American women have.

Rule #2.Never go outside the experience of your people. (the people are all American Women).
So WHO are the best organizers, writers, bloggers, fax senders, marchers, rally holders, flyers distributors? All American Women are and we will use their experience well during this just demand of the ERA being ratified.

Rule #3 .Whenever possible go outside the experience of the enemy. (TheGovernment)
What we need to do is cause CONFUSION in the way they think they can pacify women, we need to cause RETREAT (perhaps by calling for a one day strike once a month) until ERA is passed. Or we need to cause FEAR in the enemy ( perhaps by refusing to pay certain taxes such as Federal Taxes) since all American Women are not protected under the Constitution.

Rule #4. Make the enemy live up to their own book of rules (The Constitution)
The Constitution is supposed to protect all of the citizens of the land of the United States of America. Not just the White man as it was stipulated at the birth of America; nor not now during this current time, which includes all men regardless of race or color are now protected under The Constitution. ********** But for all the Women and Children in America they are left out in the cold.**************** All American Women must demand that The Constitution be for all citizens of America and that the Government ratify the ERA Now!!!. .

Rule #5. Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.
(It is almost impossible to counterattack ridicule. And it infuriates the opposition, who then react to your advantage.)

We will ridicule this (Government) which governs the most powerful nation on earth for not having yet established into law, that all of their citizens shall have equal rights under The Constitution.
We will ridicule this (Government) for demanding justice and democratic rights to people in other countries, whereas they do not even give it to their own women.
We will ridicule this (Government) for going to war and having our sons and daughter killed for the democratic rights of such a country as Iraq, and will not even defend the democratic right of their own women under The Constitution.

I think you get the message; we will use the Rules of Radicals to Advance the Rights of Women in America because the only power the enemy the (Government) will eventually understand is the Power of 51% of American Women.

And that is a proposal I present.

And The ERA Now! Team anticipate the help of all member of Pumapac and sister blog to disseminate future materials etc.

Lest we forget how important getting ERA passed. Women need equal laws and protections.

This is from BettyJean’s blog

http://freemenow.wordpress.com/2009/01/03/1486/#comment-1475

RememberNovember 01.04.09 at 6:54 pm

I read TerryDo’s post (#34) ANTI ERA propaganda (is there a link?)
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Remeber November here is the lind for you to go and visit.

http://www.eagleforum.org/era/2003/ERA-Brochure.shtml

Two more ERA team member and I will be happy. I like a quorum of 12 people, sort of like the wisdom of a jury…

joannathemaid 01.03.09 at 9:54 pm

Maybe we could enlist Sarah Palin to help get ERA re-introduced to the Republican platform.

How about a “Poster Campaign”, similar to freddie’s. Something with the PUMA logo , but all about the ERA effort?

mountainsong 01.05.09 at 3:01 pm [edit]
How about a “Poster Campaign”, similar to freddie’s. Something with the PUMA logo , but all about the ERA effort?

yes! This sounds great!!!
can you send us the link to freddie’s so that we can see what they are doing?

Bill Introduced and passed in the House, but not the Senate? I thought the congressional findings were inspirational and wanted to post. To see the full document:
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h110-406

To award a congressional gold medal in recognition of Alice Paul’s role in the women’s suffrage movement and in advancing equal rights for women.
Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,
SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.
This Act may be cited as the `Alice Paul Women’s Suffrage Congressional Gold Medal Act’.
SEC. 2. FINDINGS.
The Congress finds as follows:
(1) Alice Paul was born on January, 11, 1885, in Moorestown New Jersey, and died on July 9, 1977.
(2) Alice Paul dedicated her life to securing suffrage and equal rights for all women and, as founder of the National Woman’s Party, she was instrumental in the passage of the 19th Amendment to the United States Constitution.
(3) Alice Paul and the National Woman’s Party were the first group ever to picket the White House.
(4) While President Woodrow Wilson trumpeted America’s values of democracy abroad during World War I, Alice Paul was dedicated to reminding the President that not all Americans enjoyed democracy at home.
(5) Alice Paul used nonviolent civil disobedience to bring national attention to the women’s suffrage movement, such as the 3-week hunger strike she undertook when she was sentenced to jail in October, 1917, for her demonstrations.
(6) Alice Paul’s courage inspired thousands of women to join the women’s suffrage movement.
(7) Instead of patiently waiting for States to grant women suffrage, Alice Paul mobilized an entire generation of women to pressure the United States Congress and the President to give all women in America the right to vote.
(8) Alice Paul did not stop her fight after the 19th Amendment was ratified; she drafted the Equal Rights Amendment to the United States Constitution in 1923 and fought tirelessly for its passage until her death 54 years later.
(9) Alice Paul lobbied Congress to include gender in civil rights bills and was successful in including sex discrimination in Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964.
(10) Alice Paul sought equal rights for women all over the world, not just Americans and, as a means of pursuing this goal, founded the World Party for Equal Rights for Women in the 1930′s.
(11) Alice Paul was instrumental in the placement of a passage on gender equality in the preamble of the United Nations Charter.
(12) Few people have played a greater role in shaping the history of the United States than Alice Paul.
(13) Alice Paul is an example to all Americans of what one person can do to make a difference for millions of people

#40 & 49

Both men and women can also collect a retirement benefit of 50% of their spouse’s benefit (100% after the spouse dies).

“When workers are eligible for retirement benefits from Social Security, certain family members can also be eligible for family benefits. Eligible family members include: • Spouses who are age 62 or older; • Spouses who are younger than 62, if they care for a worker’s entitled child under age 16 or an adult child who is disabled prior to age 22; • Divorced spouses age 62 or older who were married to the worker for at least 10 consecutive years and who are unmarried at the time;• Children up to age 18 or 19, if they attend elementary or secondary school full-time; and • Disabled children, even if they are age 18 or older, who were disabled prior to age 22. . . .

A spouse who has never worked in paid jobs or has not worked to earn sufficient credits to be eligible for his/her own retired worker benefits can receive a spousal benefit that is 50 percent of the eligible worker’s full benefit. If a spouse has his/her own earnings record for one’s own retiree benefits, the spouse will receive the higher amount of either one’s own retiree benefits or spousal benefits. With increases in women’s labor force participation, the percentage of women who are eligible for retiree benefits on the basis of their own earnings record has increased, while the percentage of women eligible only as dependents (on the basis of their husband’s record only) has declined. Yet, because of women’s lower lifetime earnings than men’s,many married women eligible for their own benefits actually receive more than their own records would entitle them to through spousal benefits—called “dually entitled” beneficiaries. Most women receive the amount based on their husbands’ earnings records, up to 50 percent of the husband’s benefit. In that situation, they receive their own benefit plus an amount that brings them up to the level of the spousal benefit. When the husband passes away, the wife can receive her own benefit or 100 percent of the husband’s benefit, whichever is larger; very often the husband’s benefit is larger. [NOTE: When a wife dies, her husband can receive his own benefit or 100% of his wife's benefit, whichever is larger.]

According to data from the Social Security Administration, about 32.7 million women, men, and children received retired worker benefits as of December 2003, accounting for nearly 70 percent of all Social Security beneficiaries (total 47 million). Among all retired worker beneficiaries, 52 percent are women (16.9 million) and 1.5 percent are children (480,490) consisting of minor or in-school children and disabled children (some of whom are older; see Table 1). The majority of both women and men have work records eligible for their own retired worker benefits (85 percent of women and 99.8 percent of men), but a greater proportion of women than men (15 percent of women and 0.2 percent of men) have access to the benefit only as a spouse (as a wife or a widow). Even among women eligible for their own retired worker benefits, many are “dually entitled” beneficiaries who receive the benefit amount that is increased based on their husbands’ earnings records: about 6 million women receive this type of benefit increase, accounting for 36 percent of all women retired worker beneficiaries.That is, the benefit level for these women based on their own earnings records would be less than 50 percent of their husbands’ benefits if the husband is still living or less than 100 percent of their husbands’ benefits if they are widowed. Combined with women receiving benefits only as a spouse (15 percent), a little more than half of all women retired worker beneficiaries rely on husbands’ earnings records, either fully or partially, for their Social Security benefits.”

http://209.85.173.132/search?q=cache:sxXaZRatM3EJ:www.iwpr.org/pdf/D463.pdf+social+security+spouse+benefits&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=4&gl=us

See also http://www.ssa.gov/ww&os2.htm#divorce (re: survivor benefits for widows and widowers)

DancesWithPumas 02.06.09 at 6:52 pm
joannathemaid 02.06.09 at 6:24 pm
Help!
I need to find any PUMA’s who live in Missouri who want to help their state pass the ERA. The bill was introduced this week and is sitting in committee. Please contact me at joannathemaid@xxxx. We hope to have a prowl coming very soon and would love to have all MO Puma’s on board with us!
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Joanna, hiya…
compose a message and send to midwest@pumapac.org
The moderator, with Murphy’s approval can broadcast your message to all the MO Pumas.

Link to donors that opposed and supported Prop 8, with largest donations first:

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-metro-prop-8,0,2463893.htmlstory?appSession=95889374163369&RecordID=&PageID=2&PrevPageID=2&cpipage=1&CPISortType=asc&CPIorderBy=SumOfAMOUNT

These groups are similar to those that defeated the ERA.