Hasn’t Obama always taken credit for the successes of others, and blamed others for his failures? I’m sure many others have noticed that every vote getting step Teh Once has taken seems to boomerrang back fast and furious and explode in his face. Too bad. So Sad. It sucks to be Obama.
New CIA Memo Reveals Admiral, Not Obama, In Charge of bin Laden Raid; No “Gutsy Call” Was Ever Made
Posted by Aurelius at 10:25 PM
“With the one year anniversary of Osama bin Laden’s death less than one week away, the Obama Administration has been spiking the football for all its worth. The narrative that we have been told since May 1, 2011 is that President Obama made the call to kill bin Laden, with one aide even going so far as to say President Obama’s action was “one of the … gutsiest calls of any president in recent memory.”
The White House has run with this, milking bin Laden’s death for everything its worth. It’s even to the point where if go to “gutsycall.com,” your browser will automatically direct you to barackobama.com.
Honestly, if the final decisions were up to President Obama, and no other President would have even considered carrying out the raid that killed bin Laden, the President should have the right to use bin Laden’s death any way he sees fit. The problem is that the so-called “gutsy call” never existed. Putting aside the fact that any President with Mr. Obama’s intelligence information would have made the same call, a new memo released yesterday that Mr. Obama did not make the “final” call, nor was it terribly gutsy. Instead, it shows that the President merely authorized the possibility for going to Abbottabad… and left everything else up to Admiral William McRaven.
You can see the memo below, which was written by then-CIA head Leon Panetta (you can click on the image for better quality):
The memo reads:
“Received phone call from Tom Donilon who stated that the President made a decision with regard to AC1 [Abbottabad Compound 1]. The decision is to proceed with the assault.
The timing, operational decision making and control are in Admiral McRaven’s hands. The approval is provided on the risk profile presented to the President. Any additional risks are to be brought back to the President for his consideration. The direction is to go in and get bin Laden and if he is not there, to get out. Those instructions were conveyed to Admiral McRaven at approximately 10:45 am.”
In other words, everything from when to go in, what to do, and how to do it were all up to Admiral McRaven. The President played practically no role in bin Laden’s death other than being aware of it and allowing it… if bin Laden was indeed there. It wasn’t gutsy in the least, but one of Mr. Obama’s trademark non-committal commitments. If bin Laden wasn’t there and everything went south, he could have easily pointed to the memo and said, “Gee, I told them to get out if he wasn’t there!” Instead, bin Laden was there and the President took all the credit that he possibly could.
But there was no gutsy call. And there never was unless it was made by Admiral McRaven.”
Meanwhile,
Obama campaign’s bin Laden ad omits Romney clarification on key quote
President Obama’s campaign is hammering a Mitt Romney quote from five years ago to suggest — quite strongly — that the presumptive Republican presidential nominee would not have had the guts to approve the Usama bin Laden raid if he were president.
This is the quote the campaign is using: “It’s not worth moving heaven and earth spending billions of dollars just trying to catch one person.”
But here’s what Romney also said of bin Laden, when clarifying that comment just a few days later: “He will die.”
The “heaven-and-earth” quote is not a new revelation. Romney was challenged on that statement in 2007 during the Republican primary battle, and the former Massachusetts governor subsequently amended his remarks.
But the Obama campaign, which is standing by its controversial bin Laden ad in the face of withering GOP criticism, continues to omit reference to the rest of what Romney said about the fate bin Laden deserved.
The original quote came from an April 2007 interview with the Associated Press. Romney said in that interview he backs a broad strategy to defeat Islamic jihadists and that it’s “not worth moving heaven and earth” for one person. Romney said catching bin Laden would make the country safer by a “small percentage” — he added, a “very insignificant increase in safety.” Romney’s argument was that somebody else would replace bin Laden at the helm of Al Qaeda.
None other than Sen. John McCain, the 2008 GOP nominee who is now defending Romney on the issue, criticized him for the April 2007 statement.
But at an MSNBC debate in May 2007, Romney gave a new explanation.
“Of course we get Usama bin Laden and track him wherever he has to go, and make sure he pays for the outrage he exacted upon America,” Romney said.
Asked if that meant moving heaven and earth, Romney said: “We’ll move everything to get him. But I don’t want to buy into the Democratic pitch that this is all about one person. … It’s more than Usama bin Laden. But he is going to pay, and he will die.”
Obama campaign adviser Robert Gibbs, speaking Sunday on NBC’s “Meet the Press,” conceded that Romney might hold a different position than his “heaven-and-earth” quote implied, though he made no reference to Romney’s 2007 debate comments.
“Maybe the comments he made a few years ago he admits are wrong, or he’s flip-flopped on yet another issue,” Gibbs said Sunday.
Gibbs described the message in the latest Obama campaign web video as “fair game,” and continued to question whether Romney would have approved the mission.
In that video, Bill Clinton praises Obama for his leadership in reviewing and approving the bin Laden raid, which was carried out nearly one year ago. The video then turns to the Romney quote and questions whether he would have shown the same leadership.
Republicans excoriated Obama for the ad. Romney adviser Ed Gillespie told “Meet the Press” that the president had taken a unifying moment for the country and turned it into a “divisive, partisan, political attack.”
Personally, I can’t help but be reminded of the scene in The Color Purple where Celie casts her Power toward Albert:
Celie: I curse you. Until you do right by me everything you think about is gonna crumble!
Albert: Who you think you is? You can curse nobody. Look at you. You’re black, you’re poor, you’re ugly, you’re a woman, you’re nothing at all!
Celie: Until you do right by me, everything you even think about gonna fail!
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DancesWithPumas 04.30.12 at 1:32 pm
Obama campaign unveils new 2012 slogan
President Obama has a new campaign slogan…. wait for it…
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“Forward”
Another one of those words upon which everyone and anyone can hang their own dreamy hopey changey meaning.
I wonder if Obama plagiarized his new slogan from MSNBC? Oh no, wait! MSNBC’s is “Lean Forward”.
Hmmmm… how about Fraud Forward, or FAIL Forward, or FAKE Forward, or Feign Forward, Flail Forward, Fumble Forward, Flip-Flop Forward, or, or, or..?
Dragonfly 04.30.12 at 2:16 pm
this is fascinating – more propoganda. I am thinking of Orwell right now – it just seems that Gibbs thinks the American people are stupid or crazy. And maybe a lot of voters will remain uninformed or come up with new rationalizations on this, but clearly Obama did not order bin Laden’s death.
DancesWithPumas 04.30.12 at 2:48 pm
If the operation had failed, you can bet your fortunes Obama would have been all over the media blaming others (from the post):
“In other words, everything from when to go in, what to do, and how to do it were all up to Admiral McRaven. The President played practically no role in bin Laden’s death other than being aware of it and allowing it… if bin Laden was indeed there. It wasn’t gutsy in the least, but one of Mr. Obama’s trademark non-committal commitments. If bin Laden wasn’t there and everything went south, he could have easily pointed to the memo and said, “Gee, I told them to get out if he wasn’t there!” Instead, bin Laden was there and the President took all the credit that he possibly could.”
stoney42 04.30.12 at 3:37 pm
Forward over a cliff!
freddiebrown 04.30.12 at 4:16 pm
Forward like the last 4 years.
DancesWithPumas 04.30.12 at 4:30 pm
Fast Forward to 2016 President Hillary Rodham Clinton
DancesWithPumas 04.30.12 at 5:03 pm
Obama doesn’t know the difference between Forward and
Parkstalled.foxyladi14 05.01.12 at 10:38 am
new logo
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=212013992242197&set=a.132573730186224.24313.100003007931800&type=1&theater
foxyladi14 05.01.12 at 10:50 am
I was on a website this morning that explained all about that Forward thingy.if I can find it again will post it.
foxyladi14 05.01.12 at 11:23 am
Found it.spread it far and wide.
http://weaselzippers.us/2012/05/01/forward-to-communism/
DancesWithPumas 05.01.12 at 12:00 pm
Hello foxy lady,
The plane with the Obama logo was the one Obama used in his campaign. That plane is not Air Force 1.
FLBarbara 05.01.12 at 1:35 pm
Great Post Today Dances…If my memory serves me right,,Oforward had to be dragged off the golf course on May1..the photo has him seated there dressed in his golf shirt and golf jacket. Maybe his Forward slogan really means FOREward..as in yelling FORE while playing golf to warn other players of a possible hit in the head with a golf ball because it is all he did for the last 3 1/2 years ..play golf..so why not for the next Four. If UBL was on the golf course he would have found him sooner. Yes they Can yell FOREward… But consider it a warning.
FLBarbara 05.01.12 at 1:40 pm
FAST FORWARD to 2016…President Hillary Clinton
I LOVE THAT
i am just looking forward to Jan 20, 2013 when the Uhaul shows up at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave
FLBarbara 05.01.12 at 2:30 pm
BREAKING NEWS ….OFORWARD is in Afghanistan….Speech tonight..went all the way to Afghanistan to give a Campaign speech on national TV on tax payer dollars..Seriously what a crock of BS.
freddiebrown 05.01.12 at 4:46 pm
If you all have time, go here to post your thoughts on the “Forward” slogan.
http://www.cnn.com/2012/05/01/opinion/granderson-hope-and-change/index.html?hpt=hp_t2
I know the media heads read these comments…
HP Boston 05.01.12 at 4:57 pm
Is bin Laden really dead? REALLY? I see no buried at sea Ican trust!
I will never believe that, a crock of shit on a stick, flim flam and Opreidentinchiefisabigfatliar!
freddiebrown 05.01.12 at 5:19 pm
I have so much fun posting at the end of the CNN articles…especially the ones on the Forward peddling Messiah.
Dragonfly 05.01.12 at 6:27 pm
FLBarbara 12
LOL!
Headclunker 05.01.12 at 6:50 pm
Well, Oblowhard did not disappoint anyone in his Afghanistan fantasy that extends well past his term. It kind of reminds me of Governor Rick Scott’s seven year plan to bring jobs to Florida. He is about THE most disliked governor in the country. Let’s get to work!
DancesWithPumas 05.01.12 at 7:36 pm
at HillaryIs44:
May 1, 2012
Romney For Economic Recovery, Obama For More Publicity Stunts
http://www.hillaryis44.org/2012/05/01/romney-for-economic-recovery-obama-for-more-publicity-stunts/
theamericanway 05.02.12 at 6:03 am
This is a very nice post.
Headclunker 05.02.12 at 8:40 am
Add this to the price tag of theRockstar’s Publicity Stunt:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/taliban-attack-after-obama-visits-kabul/2012/05/02/gIQAHS7GwT_gallery.html#photo=5
Ofuctard.
HP Boston 05.02.12 at 10:18 am
I am Bullshit!! TD BANK tried to charge my daughter $5 to cash a check I gave her, written on my TD BANK account!!!
I am going to close my account and give a visit to the ripoff greedy bastards today!
They claimed SHE was not a customer, well duh! The bank has MY money to pay ANY check I write!! Fucktards!!!
DancesWithPumas 05.02.12 at 10:19 am
FORWARDFUCKTARDthere, that’s more like it.
Dragonfly 05.03.12 at 5:06 am
HP Boston, yep. that happened to me recently. went to a bank to cash my ex’s child support check. bank charged me 8 bucks because I am not a customer – but I was cashing his check and he banks there. So, wtf?
have fun visiting the bank to close the account.
Dragonfly 05.03.12 at 5:43 am
Hey, PUMAs. Did you hear about Hillary in China? Here are some links -
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/chinese-activist-chen-guangcheng-wants-to-fly-out-with-clinton/2012/05/03/gIQApPkNyT_story_1.html
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/story/2012-05-03/China-US-Chen/54714632/1
*snip*
As Chen’s situation hung over the conference, Clinton urged China to tackle its human rights policies. “The United States believes that no state can legitimately deny the universal rights that belong to every human being – or punish those who exercise them.”
Her prepared remarks went on: “We believe that all governments do have to answer to citizens’ aspirations for dignity and the rule of law,” she said.
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Headclunker 05.03.12 at 7:02 am
HIL-LAR-RY!!!
bellecat 05.03.12 at 12:23 pm
Can someone tell me what happened?
On Tuesday all TV news was about the surprise visit of BOZO to Afghan, in the year anniversary of bin laden and some signing agreement…etc. etc. Next they I did not found (and have not found yet) a single line, comment or acknowledge of the event in the internet and papers thru out…WTF?
Was I in the twilight zone?
FLBarbara 05.03.12 at 3:20 pm
Oforwardfraud has me really confused now,,He claims that the girlfriend he ‘wrote” about is really a “composite” of all the girls he dated. He admitted to the “composites” when an author tracked down the GF Genevieve and she didn’t remember the “angry black play” and the argument they had after the play that he “wrote” about in the book. So she is a “composite” but what was the name of the “angry black play” he and the “composite’ were suppose to have seen IF she was real? Was the “angry black play” a composite also? If the play was also a “composite” then who did he argue with and what did they argue about? Did he take a composite girlfriend to a composite play and have a composite argument? LMAO….a composite autobiography? Bill Ayers you have some explaining to do.
FLBarbara 05.03.12 at 3:43 pm
Bellecat
He traveled to Afghanistan on May 1 ,the 1 year anniversary off HIS one man deadly assault on Bin Laden and he gave a campaign speech to US troops who were forced to listen to him and then he traveled back to the US and since no one was forced to listen to him here..you haven’t heard about the Kabul campaign speech.
FLBarbara 05.03.12 at 3:45 pm
President Bill Clinton is on the Ellen show today.
FLBarbara 05.03.12 at 3:47 pm
What you won’t hear O talk about at all let alone in Afghanistan
Facts about
Afghanistan
87% of women are illiterate
30% of girls have access to education
1 in 3 women experience violence (sexual & physical)
70-80% of women faced forced marriages
Every 30 minutes a woman dies in childbirth
Source: UN, Coordination of Human Affairs Office
Dragonfly 05.04.12 at 7:46 am
thanks FLBarbara – I did find this article on Bill’s appearance on Ellen:
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/05/hillary-clinton-kept-bin-laden-raid-secret-bill-clinton-says/
Bill is so good! HIL-LA-RY! Ditto Headclunker!
Happy Super Full Moon weekend, PUMAs!
Headclunker 05.04.12 at 6:02 pm
Bellecat #28
After the Oblovinator thumped his chest at the Talli-bon, they retaliated. He is such a stupid f’n a$$. Him and his publicity stunt are a disgrace to this nation. The less said about it, the better.
freddiebrown 05.05.12 at 12:07 am
FLBarbara,
I just finished watching the movie “Whistle Blower”. If you want to know more about human sex trafficking,this one is eye opening. It involves UN peacekeepers and many other diplomatic personnel – all of whom have immunity.
freddiebrown 05.05.12 at 12:10 am
Spain tomorrow !!
Delle 05.05.12 at 5:18 am
Hi Everyone. I’m back. We arrived home from our vacation last night. Looking through the comments, I see several of you wished me a happy trip. I thank you all sincerely.
The first thing I have to tell you is that the security check was no problem. Can you believe that? When I put my bag, purse, jacket and shoes on the conveyor, there were people lined up waiting to be checked. I just walked past them to the other side where I picked up my jacket, shoes, etc. Nobody bothered me. It was even easier coming home. I didn’t even have to remove my shoes. I must have an innocent face.
The London weather was quite disappointing. It rained every day that we were there. And of course I caught a cold, which is still with me. The miserable weather was an inconvenience, but it didn’t totally spoil the trip. We still enjoyed the things and places we visited.
I can’t go into detail about all the places since that would take several pages. But I will say that one of the highlights of my trip was my visit to Stonehenge. Fortunately it was sunny that day. I found walking around those large ancient stones to be an awesome experience!
Well, I’d better try to get some rest now. I don’t even know what I’m doing up this early. When I got off the plane in NY I suddenly had 5 extra hours to deal with! My body is all messed up. I suppose only sleep will help.
Delle 05.05.12 at 5:30 am
Freddiebrown. Have a great time in Spain. I’m sure you will love it.
I’ve never visited Barcelona, but Madrid is a very nice city. I hope you get to travel to some other areas in Spain. It is truly a gorgeous country.
If you get to visit Cordoba I am sure you will agree with me that it is one of the most beautiful cities in the world.
Have a safe flight.
yttik 05.05.12 at 3:21 pm
I love that Celie quote! That’s how I feel about the whole Dem party, “until you do right by me.” If they really cared, they would apologize for all the misogyny and sexism of 2008 and make a huge effort to run female candidates until we have some parity in congress.
DancesWithPumas 05.06.12 at 1:06 am
Anita Finlay (“Ani”), author of Dirty Words on Clean Skin,
will be interviewed on The John Smart Show this Tuesday, May 8th, at 6PM Pacific time.
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/johnwsmart/2012/05/09/the-john-smart-show
Listeners call in line: 877-653-8381
TUNE IN.
lilibet 05.06.12 at 9:09 am
I’m just wondering, are you all looking forward to seeing Rommney move into the White House come January 2013??
DancesWithPumas 05.06.12 at 10:53 am
Hi Lilibet!
Personally, I’m looking forward to seeing Obama Inc evicted from the WH.
I’ll be voting for Dr Jill Stein -2012 !!
DancesWithPumas 05.06.12 at 12:48 pm
Attorney in hijab defends call for other women at 9/11 hearing to wear ‘appropriate’ clothing
The defense attorney who wore a traditional Islamic outfit during the rowdy arraignment of the accused Sept. 11 terrorists is defending her courtroom appeal that other women in the room wear more “appropriate” clothing to the proceedings — out of respect for her client’s Muslim beliefs.
Cheryl Bormann, counsel for defendant Walid bin Attash, attended the arraignment Saturday dressed in a hijab, apparently because her client insisted on it. She further requested that the court order other women to follow that example so that the defendants do not have to avert their eyes “for fear of committing a sin under their faith.” [yeah right, order women to submit to the patriarchal insanities that are patriarchal religions.---dwp]
At a press conference Sunday at Guantanamo Bay, Bormann said she dresses in a hijab at “all times” when she meets with her client “out of respect” for his beliefs. Asked why she requested other women do the same, Bormann said, “When you’re on trial for your life, you need to be focused.”
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Call me crazy but if my life was on the line and I actually cared about the outcome, you can believe that exposed ankles or kneecaps, or elbows would not be a distraction.
Call me crazy, but if I were on trial for my life and actually cared about the outcome, I’m thinkin’ the only person responsible for my ability to focus would be me.
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/05/06/attorney-in-hijab-defends-call-for-other-women-at-11-hearing-to-wear/#ixzz1u72pp0wC
DancesWithPumas 05.06.12 at 4:51 pm
One and Done.
Hollande Ousts Sarkozy in French Vote
Obama’s next.
Headclunker 05.06.12 at 5:05 pm
DWP,
How nice of that attorney to show such consideration for her client. However, I hope all other men and women find that the request is all he is entitled to. He is not our client.
They should avert their eyes from all of humanity for just their association with such a crime.
Misogynistic freaks.
Dragonfly 05.06.12 at 7:42 pm
I’m disgusted by the request that the Court order all women to wear more “appropriate” clothing. Please! I’m shocked the man has a woman as an attorney. Isn’t lawyering an inappropriate job for a woman according to traditional Islam?
I loved the news about Hollande, too.
DancesWithPumas 05.06.12 at 7:57 pm
The defender’s request is also ludicrous in the face of the defendants’ behaviours:
-passing around and flipping through The Economist magazine during court proceedings;
-refusing to listen to the English to Arabic translations of court proceedings;
-ignoring the Judge;
-dropping to the floor to pray during the proceedings.
I’m sure they have their reasons, but that is beside the point, and their behavior stands in in stark contrast to the lawyer’s request.
DancesWithPumas 05.06.12 at 7:59 pm
ex-President “Bling Bling” Sarkozy
DancesWithPumas 05.07.12 at 1:08 am
Good riddance to Sarkozy whose gift to sex workers was the law against “passive solicitation.” Definition?
How you’re dressed, if female.
oscarp 05.07.12 at 3:17 pm
Hello my PUMA family !
FORWARD ! (without a gps) that should be Obama’s slogan this time around. I hope people have already learned the lesson and vote him out this time.
oscarp 05.07.12 at 3:19 pm
Second time in my life that I am voting straight Republican !! and I had thought not to vote this time, but I am having second thoughts ! even if I need to be in line for 4 hours like in 2008 !
Dragonfly 05.08.12 at 6:18 am
oscarp! so glad to see you again.
bellecat 05.08.12 at 2:25 pm
Dances #44
May your words be prophetic!
I’m soo sick of that FRAUD.
Dragonfly 05.08.12 at 4:55 pm
http://darkstarastrology.com/mitt-romney-2012/
thought you might find this interesting – Jamie Partridge at Darkstar seems to be leaning towards Mitt Romney as the astrological favorite for 2012. Jamie has an interesting spin on astrology that I have enjoyed following.
DancesWithPumas 05.08.12 at 7:47 pm
Hiya O’scarp (sorry Oscar, that’s the way I’ve always read your name!
)
Great to see and hear from you!!
oscarp 05.09.12 at 8:21 pm
Hello Dances and Dragonfly ! Glad to see you too !!! I am still alive having fun at HuffPo with the O crowd !!! It reminds me of 2008 when I had fun with all those retards ! sorry for the adjective !! I usually try to be more respectful ! it might be the frustration I feel when I see how people can be so out of common sense ! Well, I will see you around ! Poor Hillary ! she must be counting the days to stop working for Mr. O
prplvette85 05.12.12 at 7:03 pm
Hi everyone.. Happy Mother’s Day tomorrow! Been working loooong hours at the new job. contrary to what the fraud is saying, the auto business has not recovered completely! I am so sick of his lies, and his flip flopping on what he is for or against to get votes I try not to even listen anymore. I sure hope that people will not vote for him based on his “words” …we all know where that has got us… anyway Love and miss you all,
ciao for now
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