These Dipshits call themselves progressives?

“Men on the right view women as private property. Men on the left think women are public property.”

Great quote. Sad, but true.

Here’s what some OWS people at Zucotti Park REALLY said in a recent poll. (The poll was taken by a WJS operative, so it would have chosen the craziest looking people to interview. But they still only got about 4% crazy answers. The rest of the answers were pretty mainstream.)

This is from an article by a journalist who saw the actual questions and answers and disagrees with the WSj about their interpretation.

http://www.capitalnewyork.com/article/culture/2011/10/3790409/survey-many-occupy-wall-street-protesters-are-unhappy-democrats-who

[M]any of the protesters consider themselves Democrats, many will vote for Obama in 2012, and, relatively speaking, “income inequality” doesn’t actually rank too high on their list of grievances.

What frustrates you the most about the political process in the United States? {Open Ended}

30% Influence of corporate/moneyed/special interests
21% Partisanship
15% Joblessness
6% Income inequality
3% Our democratic/capitalist system
3% Stagnant middle class wages
7% Corruption
2% Entrenched bureaucracy
2% Bush tax cuts
2% Obama abandoned left
2% Military spending
2% Federal Reserve
5% Everything

Also, fascinating:

What would you like to see the Occupy Wall Street movement achieve? {Open Ended}

35% Influence the Democratic Party the way the Tea Party has influenced the GOP
4% Radical redistribution of wealth
5% Overhaul of tax system: replace income tax with flat tax
7% Direct Democracy
9% Engage & mobilize Progressives
9% Promote a national conversation
11% Break the two-party duopoly
4% Dissolution of our representative democracy/capitalist system
4% Single payer health care
4% Pull out of Afghanistan immediately
8% Not sure

More details at the site. Those who were unemployed said they recently lost their jobs.

“ipotter 10.19.11 at 5:41 pm
Didn’t Obama give them accelerated loan forgiveness already? (P.L. 111-152″

Are you sure that’s actually in force and doing what he claimed it would? Or is it like his Lily Ledbetter or Council on Women etc — a good label and description on a bill that does nothing (or never got signed).

Yep, Murphy…
f*cking Evil, “Dipshit”, Women Hating Mutants!!

and they thought we would not recognize them?? ha!!!

“Sexual abuse and assault are dehumanizing acts for the survivor as well as the abuser . . . Though we do not encourage involvement of the police in our community,…” FU.

…a pos by any other name…is still a pos!

they hated us(women) in 08…and they hate us now..
it’s who they are.

evil little thumb suckers!!

thank you Murphy…keep beating that drum!
XOXO

bbl..busy time for me..my hubby is testing again and.. waiting for results.. has me on edge.
((((Pumas)))

oh and..TY Toonces..
nail on the head..sez it all!

“QUOTE OF THE DAY: “Men on the right view women as private property. Men on the left think women are public property.”
– Toonces, commenting at Reclusive Leftist.”

turndownobama #8
It was signed into law with a start date of July 2014. So they did get something and if it isn’t what they wanted, then they should look at it as an educational experience… you don’t always get what you want.

Personally, I had to work to pay for any higher education I received. It’s hard to hold down a job and take classes. Nobody cut me any slack… ever. Sure, it would be nice to have free education for all, but that isn’t realistic and somebody has to pay for it. What I did find out several years ago, while I was working my ass off and couldn’t afford the time or money for classes, is that our government gives grants to rich foreigners. The grant received by one student I met was more than my yearly income at the time. I’m sure it is the same for many others. Anyway, that really pissed me off. I’m not completely sure how its done, but I believe it was wrapped in foreign aid. I’m not against foreign aid, but we cannot control how the money is spent and, of course, need to look out for our own.

I do digress quite a bit, but that anyone who could say rape is “dehumanizing for the abuser” is well… that person’s mind has to be really feked up. It’s sooooo wrong. Unfortunate that many young women won’t realize just how wrong it is. Women aren’t encouraged to stand up for their rights and I don’t see that changing anytime soon. One of the reasons I heard for electing Obama was that “it would be good for young black children to see that blacks can achieve this.” Well, what about women? The best candidate was Clinton. I’ll leave it at that.

The job market is slim, but it was during the recession in the 70s also. These kids were raised in a time of excess. Makes growing up a bit more difficult. Nonetheless its gotta be done. They need to figure out that their list of grievances isn’t going to be fixed by either party, and of course, that rape is not okay.

LOL Murphy..#13
Yep..

Occupy His*sit* dick bus B110!

ipotter 10.20.11 at 10:54 am
turndownobama #8
[Claimed student loan reform] was signed into law with a start date of July 2014. So they did get something and if it isn’t what they wanted

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So what is actually in it? Lily Ledbetter is a label on an empty bill. Does that mean we should stop trying to get a REAL Lily Ledbetter bill passed?

turndownobama #18

It is a public law and if you want to know exactly what it says, you will have to look it up. Sorry, but I don’t know what this board has come to over the past couple of years. For a previous post of mine, I gave links to town newspapers and local media to support my statements and was told (by someone else, not you) that they didn’t trust my links.

Seems to me that these kids think they should get a free education if they are looking for 100% loan forgivness as was stated earlier. Seriously, who the fek do they think they are? They voted for Obama partly because he promised them breaks on education. Hey, they got it! Like I said before, P.L. 111-152 reduced payments to 10% of discretionary income with forgiveness after 20 years of on-time payments. Believe that was changed from 15% of discretionary income with forgiveness after 25 years, but could be mistaken on that and don’t have time to go back and look at the moment.

If you think free education is attainable in this economy, well we might as well agree to disagree. When I look around, I do see “help wanted” signs occasionally at restaurants, shipping stores, and such. There are some jobs out there. I was taught that you have to work hard to get an education as well as a good job, not expected them to be handed to you. I look around and see overweight and undermotivated youth and it disgusts me.

Turndownobama #21

You say:
“Free education” or even “better student loan terms” seems to be a straw man charge made against OWS.

Well, it was in Murphy’s link to Occupy Portland’s demands that they want 100% student loan forgiveness, which to me equals a free education. If you want to say its a straw man charge against OWS, you have that right, but I disagree. I do not support OWS in any way. Those were Obama supporters, and in the end I believe they will vote for him again. If they were marching on the White House, I might look at it differently.

iPotter
One of the reasons I heard for electing Obama was that “it would be good for young black children to see that blacks can achieve this.”
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What they really meant was it would be good for young black boys and boys of color. Black girls, and girls of color will grow up to be women… and we all (most of us) know what that means.

O/T but still fits in with the “women are 2nd class citizens”

Male-minded safety puts female drivers at risk: study

WASHINGTON — Women are more likely to sustain injuries in an auto accident because safety features are designed more with men in mind, a new study has said.

Combing through a decade of data about US motor vehicle accidents, three researchers found the odds of serious injury for female drivers wearing seat belts were 47 percent higher than those of men in a comparable mishap
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http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5gpt2ArraBs1WhZVJq6XZwCXIGqHg?docId=CNG.91dcaf68aa2ea962d1d2f574f976f3bc.51

OK, Portland and Zucotti Park are two different Occupy sites. Portland does have some action going about student loans. The WSJ poll at Zucotti Park of NY OWS people did not find any OWS protestors even mentioning student loans as personal concerns, iirc. So claiming that all OWS everywhere is focused on “free education” would be a straw man.

Also, there’s a difference between “dischargable in bankruptcy” and “100% forgiveness (without bankruptcy).”

Here is another story of tampering and sabotage which took place during the 2008 campaign. At least 25 Supreme Court cases were corrupted by erasing references to ‘natural born citizen’.

http://www.examiner.com/civil-rights-in-portland/justiagate

This is a serious crime. People should go to jail for this. But I’m afraid our justice system is filled with weaklings and crooks, starting with the godfather of them all – our attorney general!

DWP #27
It’s like the punch was spiked with koolaid.

DWP
Sorry, but I don’t know how else to put it. Haven’t been around much and was a bit shocked. On posting that Indiana is launching an investigation into fraud in the 2008 election because Obama didn’t have enough real signatures to be on the ballot, I was told that it is a”completely unlikely fabrication.” And on stating I believed the kids got the education reform they were promised in the passing of P.L. 111-152, I was told it is a fake bill… WTF!!!

Yup nobamamama all the time!
I will never vote Dem or Repugs…Never.
Write in Hillary or my ownself! Time for us to NOT vote just as the repugs did and gave us shitbum and we coulda had a lesser evil. I will vote for no evil…lesser or nonlesser.

DWP, yep, it was the ex-governor, a Clinton supporter, who was a bit upset that his signature was forged on Obama’s petition. Sure, it might be too little too late. But if enough shit floats to the top… well, I hope it does.

Sexual abuse and assault are dehumanizing acts for the survivor as well as the abuser . . .

I think they may have a point. Abusers lack something human…and are generally DISGUSTING. As for the counseling services for them, could I recommend something behind bars?

To clarify, I didn’t mean to incinuate that I thought everybody has been parked at the punch bowl. And DWP, I forgot to mention that it is good to talk with you again.

If anyone is interested, here are a couple of other links on the petition investigation:

US Attorney will not investigate Obama, Clinton Petitions:
http://articles.southbendtribune.com/2011-10-19/news/30300303_1_clinton-petitions-fake-signatures-indiana-primary-ballot

Long-Time Democratic Volunteer Fingered in Democrats Petition-Forging Scheme
http://advanceindiana.blogspot.com/2011/10/long-time-democratic-volunteer-fingered.html

Give it UP, ipotter.

Just because you are unable to resist swallowing the raw, inedible, toxic, pathetic rightwing red meat that “voter” fraud can ever or will ever be able to amount to anything, doesn’t mean you can serve that swill here unchallenged, altho who knows how long I will be allowed to or even care to repeat (and repeat and repeat) the obvious.

It’s a never-ending RAG DOLL the rightwing pit bulls never tire of slobbering over, even after the attorney general scandal where REPUBLICAN attorney generals refused to follow the Bush regime’s marching orders and were illegally fired for refusing to promote this UTTERR BULLSHIT that a second grader would recognize is unable to amount to any possible threat because it is WAY too complicated to commit en masse, which is the ONLY way iot would make a difference.

Not to mention it requires a world view that massive numbers of Americans are not only willing to cheat but also willing to cheat and RISK IMPRISONMENT for a single extra vote.

Nice try, if you’re venal. Sorry about your reasoning power, if you’re simply an excitable fool.

#26 goofs…thank you!!! A topic that infuriates me to no end. “Safety” products designed for men that actually harm women. I’ve seen women in US mail trucks wear “safety” shoulder straps that obviously cut across their NECKS.

#20 ipotter: “I look around and see overweight and undermotivated youth and it disgusts me.”

Talk about disgusting. Unchallenged crap like this.

#20 ipotter: “I look around and see overweight and undermotivated youth and it disgusts me.”

Talk about disgusting. Unchallenged crap like this.

Consider it challenged. If she’s talking about OWS. Many ages are there: Riverdaughter has photos at Confluence. Many are recently laid-off professionals like herself They’re all certainly more motivated than we are, because they’re out there protesting crony capitalism, bailouts, etc. Same core issues as tthe Tea Party, and many PUMA blogs are focused on those issues too.

More info on the NY OWS is here.
http://www.capitalnewyork.com/article/culture/2011/10/3790409/survey-many-occupy-wall-street-protesters-are-unhappy-democrats-who-

Your point about the military is good!

Rather than dealing in personal attacks against a group, let’s look at the group’s message. Truth is truth, regardless of who speaks it.

People are allowed to have opposing views… but obots aren’t.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/10/18/college-student-credited-with-uncovering-possible-election-fraud-in-indianas/

College Student Credited with Uncovering Possible Election Fraud in Indiana’s 2008 Primary

Shocking election fraud allegations have stained a state’s 2008 presidential primary – and it took a college student to uncover them.

“This fraud was obvious, far-reaching and appeared to be systemic,” 22-year-old Ryan Nees told Fox News, referring to evidence he uncovered while researching electoral petitions from the 2008 Democratic Party primary in Indiana.

Nees’ investigation centered on the petitions that put then-senators Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton on the ballot. As many as 150 of the names and signatures, it is alleged, were faked. So many, in fact, that the numbers raise questions about whether Obama’s campaign had enough legitimate signatures to qualify for a spot on the ballot.

“What seems to have happened is that a variety of people in northern Indiana knew that this fraud occurred, and actively participated and perpetuated the fraud, and did so on behalf of two presidential campaigns,” according to Nees.

Prosecutors are now investigating. The scandal has already led to the sudden resignation Monday night of Butch Morgan, chairman of the St. Joseph County Democratic Party. He denied any wrongdoing, saying he looks “forward to an investigation that will exonerate me.”

Nees, a junior at Yale University, served as an intern in the Obama White House last year and supports the president’s re-election. But as an intern at the non-partisan political newsletter Howey Politics Indiana, he delved into the Byzantine and complicated world of petition signatures and found reams of signatures that he says appeared to be written in the same handwriting, some apparently copied from previous petitions.

The names were subsequently submitted to Indiana election authorities as the signatures of legitimate voters. Nees and Brian Howey, the newsletter’s publisher, then teamed up with the South Bend Tribune to break the story.

St. Joseph County Prosecuting Attorney Michael Dvorak announced Tuesday that the U.S. attorney for the Northern District of Indiana will not be investigating these allegations. So Dvorak is doing so and has requested the assistance of the Indiana State Police.

In a statement, Dvorak said the U.S. attorney “does not investigate allegations of fraud in the submission of petitions by political parties for the placement of the names of candidates on the ballot for federal primary elections. They do, however, investigate fraud in voter registration, the actual voting process and in the tabulation of ballots.”

The state Republican Party Chairman Eric Holcomb had called for a federal investigation.

“We don’t know the extent of the crime. We don’t know how many people. We don’t know if it was organized. Those were some of my questions. How deep does it go? Does it go to one county? Does it go to one district? Does it go to one state? Does it go to 49 other states?”

Indiana Democratic Party Chairman Dan Parker also supports an investigation. He released a statement that said, in part, “We continue to fully support the investigation into this isolated incident in St. Joseph County. We want to know who committed this act, and we want that person held accountable.”

Nees thinks the candidates did not have knowledge of the alleged forgeries, but he says such things can easily happen.

“This appears to have been the actions of the northern Indiana political machine that operated within the Indiana Democratic Party, not within the campaigns of either President Obama or Secretary of State Clinton,” he said.

“What’s important to me is that this sort of thing not occur in the future. This happened with impunity because no one thought that they would ever get caught, and in fact it was likely that no one would ever catch them because no structural safeguard existed to ensure that this wouldn’t occur.”

Howey, the publisher of the political newsletter, told Fox News he also plans to examine the petitions that put Sen. John McCain’s name on the Republican ballot. “It makes sense to look at the whole thing,” he said.

As Nees sat on a bench on the leafy downtown green in New Haven, Conn., with the imposing ivy and Gothic architecture of Yale behind him, he reflected on what he had found back home in his home state.

“Election fraud is particularly troublesome, because it undermines the integrity of our voting process and basically of our democracy. Maintaining the integrity of elections in the United States is an important thing.”

Nees’ investigation centered on the petitions that put then-senators Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton on the ballot. As many as 150 of the names and signatures, it is alleged, were faked. So many, in fact, that the numbers raise questions about whether Obama’s campaign had enough legitimate signatures to qualify for a spot on the ballot.

“What seems to have happened is that a variety of people in northern Indiana knew that this fraud occurred, and actively participated and perpetuated the fraud, and did so on behalf of two presidential campaigns,” according to Nees.

Prosecutors are now investigating. The scandal has already led to the sudden resignation Monday night of Butch Morgan, chairman of the St. Joseph County Democratic Party. He denied any wrongdoing, saying he looks “forward to an investigation that will exonerate me.”

Nees, a junior at Yale University, served as an intern in the Obama White House last year and supports the president’s re-election. But as an intern at the non-partisan political newsletter Howey Politics Indiana, he delved into the Byzantine and complicated world of petition signatures and found reams of signatures that he says appeared to be written in the same handwriting, some apparently copied from previous petitions.

The names were subsequently submitted to Indiana election authorities as the signatures of legitimate voters. Nees and Brian Howey, the newsletter’s publisher, then teamed up with the South Bend Tribune to break the story.

St. Joseph County Prosecuting Attorney Michael Dvorak announced Tuesday that the U.S. attorney for the Northern District of Indiana will not be investigating these allegations. So Dvorak is doing so and has requested the assistance of the Indiana State Police.

In a statement, Dvorak said the U.S. attorney “does not investigate allegations of fraud in the submission of petitions by political parties for the placement of the names of candidates on the ballot for federal primary elections. They do, however, investigate fraud in voter registration, the actual voting process and in the tabulation of ballots.”

The state Republican Party Chairman Eric Holcomb had called for a federal investigation.

“We don’t know the extent of the crime. We don’t know how many people. We don’t know if it was organized. Those were some of my questions. How deep does it go? Does it go to one county? Does it go to one district? Does it go to one state? Does it go to 49 other states?”

Indiana Democratic Party Chairman Dan Parker also supports an investigation. He released a statement that said, in part, “We continue to fully support the investigation into this isolated incident in St. Joseph County. We want to know who committed this act, and we want that person held accountable.”

Nees thinks the candidates did not have knowledge of the alleged forgeries, but he says such things can easily happen.

“This appears to have been the actions of the northern Indiana political machine that operated within the Indiana Democratic Party, not within the campaigns of either President Obama or Secretary of State Clinton,” he said.

“What’s important to me is that this sort of thing not occur in the future. This happened with impunity because no one thought that they would ever get caught, and in fact it was likely that no one would ever catch them because no structural safeguard existed to ensure that this wouldn’t occur.”

Howey, the publisher of the political newsletter, told Fox News he also plans to examine the petitions that put Sen. John McCain’s name on the Republican ballot. “It makes sense to look at the whole thing,” he said.

As Nees sat on a bench on the leafy downtown green in New Haven, Conn., with the imposing ivy and Gothic architecture of Yale behind him, he reflected on what he had found back home in his home state.

“Election fraud is particularly troublesome, because it undermines the integrity of our voting process and basically of our democracy. Maintaining the integrity of elections in the United States is an important thing.”

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There is also a video on the link.

Zee 10.22.11 at 12:23 am
#35 dances…take what ipotter says with a grain of salt.

ipotter then spent considerable time here trying to promote the idea that Zero’s campaign deliberately gathered fake signatures, which is plainly insane, as there is no benefit to waste time making up fake names when with less effort one could collect enough surplus valid names.
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Now look at who is being naive.

And, surely, the double downing by you and turndownobama on ipotter is not appreciated. You’re both doing what the blog hogs basil and mr smith do to turndownobama at hillaryis44. It’s not the challenging of statements, it’s the personal attacks / name calling that is objectionable.

I mean, one could go into any random crowd, people leaving a baseball game for instance, and ask what their complaints are, and get the same list as the Occupy groups have,

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Exactly! It’s the same complaints we all have.

But now the politicians and the news people are talking about them, rather than about ‘deficit’ and ‘debt’ and cutting Social Security etc.

And now the ball game fans are getting soem education about where the power is, and learning to spell Glass-Seagall.

I don’t think I’ve made any personal attacks.

I did say I assumed the ‘overweight kids’ remark referred to OWS. Then I defended OWS as being neither; Riverdaughter has been posting good firsthand descriptions of the OWS crowd.

BBL

via Robin Morgan
Code Pink’s new @WomenOWS confronts the stifling of women’s voices & leadership at OccupyWallStreet sites, & supports the mistreated women. YES!

http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2011/10/21/occupywallstreet-nucleation-and-crystallization/

via Robin Morgan
Code Pink’s new @WomenOWS confronts the stifling of women’s voices & leadership at OccupyWallStreet sites, & supports the mistreated women. YES!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/for-tea-party-and-occupy-wall-street-movements-some-common-ground/2011/10/18/gIQAkIg07L_story.html

occupy Little Rock at Clinton Library.

http://www.arktimes.com/ArkansasBlog/archives/2011/10/21/occupy-little-rock-occupies-clinton-library-parking-lot

Stoney42 #74
Sound like a good place to Occupy. I am sure the Bill will deal with it with his usual statesmanship.

Argentine President Christina Fernandez wins re-election with the widest victory margin in that country’s history!!!

Zee
of all the points iPotter made, fat’s the one you’re all bent out of shape about?
iPotter is not my new rightwing best friend. She’s been an active pumapac member for years, and I met her in person at Puma Headquarters in Denver. She is by no means rightwing, and she is most certainly a woman.

She seems to reserve the right to support #ows, like many of us. So what?

80

I suppose you mean “the right not to support”?

Anyway, here are some photos of OWS people. Don’t look overweight — nor like kids.

http://llwproductions.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/occupy-wall-street-fri-oct-14-03.jpg?w=630&h=432

HI PUMAS…My cell phone broke and could not comment just managed to get into change password so it’s looking good Yippee
I had to comment on the OWS discussion. My neice works for a Broadway Theater and I am proud to say she is the first woman to hold the title of her current position, a position she worked damn hard for. On the weekends the OWS protest in the theater district, she has had her hair pulled, yelled in her ears, hands in her face and groped,constantly having her ass graped. The police are unable to do a thing as they can not identify any one indivdual as they are all in a crowd. They yell “give me a bone pay for my education” as she walks to her job that she needs to pay for her college education. This weekend I along with a very intimidating friend will go with her and if she is bothered they will then deal with US..Trust me.
This is horrifying. What the hell do they want? Yelling at people going to a play and to dinner ” not to support business” is hurting the millions of people who are employed in the theater district so I just don’t get it.
Anyway..I will defend my niece and any women who is mistreated.
Trust Me. I may then go and ride that damn bus and wait for them to tell me to sit in the back!!!

ZEE, I can’t believe that you still believe voter fraud is a right wing talking point???? VOTER FRAUD, along with every other way to accomplish fraud IS WHAT GOT OBAMA the Democratic nomination. That is the truth.
((PUMAS))))) hi ya Murphy…good going

SO SORRY about the double post ..having issues LOL

83
Yes, they must be dedicated to camp out in the cold. But the OWS protestors did a big clean-up on the park themselves.

As for sanitation, if the NY authorities were really worried, they’d let some portapotties get set up, regardless of permit or lack of permit. And all these stories seem to be coming from the NY Post; what was its slant on other issues we know about?

OK..I have to post this. It is supposedly from Bill Cosby – the only comedian that makes me laugh. It is long but it is worth reading.*******

This should be required reading for every man, woman and child in the UK , United States of America, Canada, Australia and New Zealand etc.

“I’m 76 and I’m Tired”

I’m 76 . Except for brief period in the 50′s when I was doing my National Service, I’ve worked hard since I was 17. Except for some some serious health challenges, I put in 50-hour weeks, and didn’t call in sick in nearly 40 years. I made a reasonable salary, but I didn’t inherit my job or my income, and I worked to get where I am. Given the economy, it looks as though retirement was a bad idea, and I’m tired. Very tired.

***I’m tired of being told that I have to “spread the wealth” to people who don’t have my work ethic. I’m tired of being told the government will take the money I earned, by force if necessary, and give it to people too lazy to earn it.

I’m tired of being told that Islam is a “Religion of Peace,” when every day I can read dozens of stories of Muslim men killing their sisters, wives and daughters for their family “honor”; of Muslims rioting over some slight offense; of Muslims murdering Christian and Jews because they aren’t “believers”; of Muslims burning schools for girls; of Muslims stoning teenage rape victims to death for “adultery”; of Muslims mutilating the genitals of little girls; all in the name of Allah, because the Qur’an and Shari’a law tells them to.

I’m tired of being told that out of “tolerance for other cultures” we must let Saudi Arabia and other Arab countries use our oil money to fund mosques and mandrassa Islamic schools to preach hate in Australia, New Zealand, UK, America and Canada, while no one from these countries are allowed to fund a church, synagogue or religious school in Saudi Arabia or any other Arab country to teach love and tolerance..

I’m tired of being told I must lower my living standard to fight global warming, which no one is allowed to debate.

I’m tired of being told that drug addicts have a disease, and I must help support and treat them, and pay for the damage they do. Did a giant germ rush out of a dark alley, grab them, and stuff white powder up their noses or stick a needle in their arm while they tried to fight it off?

I’m tired of hearing wealthy athletes, entertainers and politicians of all parties talking about innocent mistakes, stupid mistakes or youthful mistakes, when we all know they think their only mistake was getting caught. I’m tired of people with a sense of entitlement, rich or poor.

I’m really tired of people who don’t take responsibility for their lives and actions. I’m tired of hearing them blame the government, or discrimination or big-whatever for their problems.

I’m also tired and fed up with seeing young men and women in their teens and early 20′s bedeck them selves in tattoos and face studs, thereby making themselves un-employable and claiming money from the Government.

Yes, I’m damn tired. But I’m also glad to be 76.. Because, mostly, I’m not going to have to see the world these people are making. I’m just sorry for my granddaughter and her children. Thank God I’m on the way out and not on the way in.

There is no way this will be widely publicized, unless each of us sends it on!

This is your chance to make a difference.
” I’m 76 and I’m tired. If you don’t forward this you are part of the problem”.

I thought that didn’t sound like Cosby, and sure enough it’s a hoax.

billcosby.com/site/2011/09/if-you-got-the-bogus-email-its-time-to-hit-delete.html
If you got the BOGUS email, it’s time to hit DELETE!
There’s an email floating around – entitled “I’m 76 and tired” – purportedly sent by me. I did not write the email, I did not send the email, I’m not 76, and I don’t subscribe to the ugly views expressed in the email. We are coming up to an important anniversary on Sunday, which is a day when we should all come together. Whoever wrote this email is not thinking about our country, or what is important. If you get the email, it’s time to hit DELETE.
Posted by Bill Cosby on September 9, 2011 at 11:17 AM in News

Here’s more debunking of it:
http://www.google.com/search?gcx=w&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=%22bill+cosby%22+%22I'm+76%22+tired

A week or so ago it was Uganda. Now it’s Kenya and Somalia. Does anyone know how many wars the Emperor Barry has gotten us involved in now? I believe I’ve lost count.

http://www.smh.com.au/world/us-and-france-join-fighting-against-alshabab-20111024-1mg80.html

And where the Hell is congress?

Oh, I forgot. The emperor doesn’t need anyone’s approval for his actions.

Orlando Jones thinks Sarah Palin needs to be killed!

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2011/10/25/actor-orlando-jones-liberals-need-kill-sarah-palin

I admit that I am way out of the loop regarding today’s entertainment. I’ve never heard of this man. But if he is supposed to be a comedian – this is not at all funny!

Love this cartoon!!
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-AWTY_iGF56k/TqQi0yVHlyI/AAAAAAABKX8/RK9P8Vogsdo/s1600/Oppression.jpg

Stoney 42,,, I was thinking that myself.
I agree with a lot of the fake Cosby email and I am not even close to 74 nor am I a rightie even though I believe in a some Republican sentiments.

Not all Left wing or Right wings are nuts – some nuts do make sense and I think some are also women. Does that make these women nuts or just people with different opinions.

Ahh…I should leave all these alone and just focus on what I do best… my work !! Oprah magazine asking for all kinds of samples !

Obama for Libya 2012!

Do you think it could catch on?

Murphy, if you’re reading this…I would like to send Skipper one of those bags when it comes back in stock. What colors do you think she’d like: Red/OrangeBlack/Purple ?

I don’t know if this is right wing nut stuff or not – just don’t vomit on my shoes…
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/2011/10/24/erin-obama-baby-doll.cnn

Ayup every day the Oshitheads in the WH make it more and more a total shoein for a new bigger and not better Republican 2012 take over.
So sorry small business, big business rules!
$7,500 a drop in the bucket for the big “Robber Barons.”

DWP – I saw the Greta interview yesterday. I am sure it is an eye opener for the SF Chronicle – to get publicly punished by the Obama’s “White House” for not playing by their rules and wanting transparency (?!) I pity the koolaiders that still think the word transparency applies to Obama. The door to donor fraud and voter fraud is now wide open or is it closed ? Depending on how you see it.

Don’t forget the article….

Happy Birthday Hillary!!

Headclunker @111………..hey..it’s never too late for cupcakes!!

cupcakes by elenis:
http://elenis.com/site_media/images/productimage-picture-smiley-face-cupcakes-144_jpg_522x340_crop_upscale_q85.jpg

nite (((Pumas)))sleep tight.

dwp – #71
There is a group of what I call the conservatives on His44 who all post one after the other and get completely obnoxious about a topic. On OWS the admin is posting similar things, so they feel emboldened. A well placed sarcastic remark can sometimes take the wind out of their sails, tho.

“A national poll conducted for TIME on Oct. 9 and 10 found that if Clinton were the Democratic nominee for President in 2012, she would best Mitt Romney 55% to 38%, Rick Perry 58% to 32% and Herman Cain 56% to 34% among likely voters in a general election. The same poll found that President Obama would edge Romney by just 46% to 43%, Perry by 50% to 38% and Cain by 49% to 37% among likely voters.”

via SkyDancingBlog
http://skydancingblog.com/2011/10/27/wow-just-wow/

Dances #116

WOW!

Happiest of Birthdays Hillary!!!

[Update 10/24/11: A new website has just launched - OccupyPatriarchy.org. They'll be adding a lot more content in the coming days!]

http://occupypatriarchy.org/

Headclunker,

May I post about this request at H44? And someone might put it at Crawdad (I’ve unsubbed from there).

Turndownobama,

I have no problem with it being posed around the pumashpere. Use you best judgment. I love the posts at H44, but do not relate to most of the bloggers there.

Here is some weather news for the east coast:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2054719/North-east-braces-October-snow-inches-predicted-areas.html

Get out your shovels ladies. The “S” word is here again.

Be careful and stay safe. And warm, of course.

Oh Crap! This is much too early!

We did it go Cards!!! Yahoooooooooooooooo!!!

Ye gads and little fishes!!! It’s gonna fucking snow!

Impeach this lunatic bastard!!!

Sending warm thoughts to all our PUMAs getting snow this weekend. Stay safe everyone!

This is costumes from a foreclosure firm’s Halloween party last year. Shock warning. They dressed as handicapped homeless people they had foreclosed on.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/29/opinion/what-the-costumes-reveal.html?_r=4

The latest in “Christian Love”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWjoBT5tCIg

Wow, just wow.

Adding a shout out to GoJoy too… Hope you are okay everyone!

This guy has GOT to be drunk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7M4gz97Y9W8#!

Hey Goofsmom, Hoping all is well with you.

http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2011/11/01/hillary-clintons-mother-dies-at-92/

(((GoJoy)))

Good to see you!

FLBarbara from 10/24

looking for an update – did you and your intimidating friend walk with your daughter through the OWS mob? I’m so sorry she is going through that. And I am sure these OWS punks do not know who they are dealing with.

HI Dragonfly, it is my niece and no we didn’t go into NYC on Saturday as it snowed. She is off for 3 weeks now till a new show opens. But if they’re still there I will go.

DWP 122 – thank you for the link. Great website.

FLBarbara – glad to hear your niece has some time off to recuperate from the constant assaults (I hope she is keeping a strong mental attitude – that is very hard to do sometimes). Snow – have not seen it in years and who knows if I ever will down here. Sorry to be out of touch – sending warm thoughts up north!!

HP…The ghost of childhood past departed, leaving behind my shredded soul, empty bank account, and a heart blackened by guilt. In other words, the best possible outcome.

gojoyknocks
HP…The ghost of childhood past departed, leaving behind my shredded soul, empty bank account, and a heart blackened by guilt. In other words, the best possible outcome.
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I don’t need the specifics to ((((((((gojoyknocks))))))))

My condolences to the Clinton and Rodham Families for their loss.

This makes me so sad.

Just 2 months ago – in the beginning of September – I was downtown NYC with a few friends. We visited the American Indian Museum, the Statue of Liberty and we had lunch at this new cafe called The Milk Street Cafe.

We loved it there. It was friendly, clean and the food was great. We planned to go back someday.

So, when I read this article I felt very bad:

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2011/11/01/milk-street-cafe-owner-sacks-21-employees-as-consequence-of-occupy-wall-street-demonstration/

What the Hell do the occupiers want? Is it really their goal to close down small businesses and have people losing their jobs? If it is – then they can strike up a success.

theamericanway 11.02.11 at 4:32 am

Thanks that was a lovely tribute, RIP Dorothy.

theamericanway #163

Great article. You sure can see Hillary in Dorothy Rodham. 92 years old. That’s a long life. She had a daughter to be proud of. I loose sight of how far we have come because more recently we have seemed to be going backwards. I hope I can give my daughter what Dorothy gave hers.

# 169 sorry..meant to spell ‘Shero’

Hiya Goofsmom…..yes “Big Trgger Alert”

mcnorman has more ..

“Call It Intuition, But I Don’t Think He Will Be A Judge For Much Longer”

http://mcnorman.wordpress.com/2011/11/02/call-it-intuition-but-i-dont-think-he-will-be-a-judge-for-much-longer/

also..
from a link in mcnorman’s post:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2056582/Judge-William-Adams-beats-disabled-daughter-Hillary-16-YouTube-video.html

what a brave young Woman….she exposed “the beast”…
and Monsters don’t like sunshine!

PumaRythm,

Yes, she is a hero.

Dances,

I’m praying you are wrong and he gets taken down in disgrace! It would be a win for all of us who didn’t have access to Vid cameras when we were kids.

I saw a brief clip from the video on tv yesterday. The mother was screaming at the girl, “turn over and take it like a woman”. I know that siding with the aggressor is a survival technique but it broke my heart.

(((goofsmom, Dances and gojoy))) thank you for your posts..i came back and read them last night and again today..

this one really cut to the bone didn’t it?..sometimes it takes me a while to put it all back in the box.

anyway…I’m so grateful for all of the women here at PumaPac and our many sister blogs that are ‘warriors for women’…thank you for all you do. XOXO

#174 goofsmom..yes, a vid cam would have been nice…or a ‘Louieville Slugger’

the late great Koko Taylor:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hv-R0qRsqjc

g’night (((Pumas))) sleep tight.

Some great pictures of the protestors in Oakland.

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-occupy-oakland-pictures,0,4120033.photogallery

From Luzerne County PA. Today’s news. Other dispicable men.

Key Figure In Kids-For-Cash Scandal To Be Sentenced
Scranton, Lackawanna County – Attorney Robert Powell of Butler Township will be sentenced Friday morning in Federal Court in Scranton. He pleaded guilty in connection with the Kids-For-Cash scandal. Powell was co-owner of the PA Child Care Center in Pittston Township and admitted to paying $770,000 in kickbacks to former Luzerne County Judges Mark Ciavarella and Michael Conahan. The kickback payments ensured the detention center was built and thrived. Powell pleaded guilty in 2009 to not reporting a crime to the FBI and as an accessory to tax evasion after the fact. Powell was a key witness in the trial of Ciavarella in February of this year. Powell maintained that he was strong armed by the Judges and that he had no choice but to pay up. Powell also admitted he helped launder millions of dollars from the developer of the project, Robert Mericle. Mericle says the money was a “Finders Fee”. Federal investigators say Mericle was unaware of the kids for cash scheme.

Former Judge and current Inmate Ciavarella was found guilty on 12 felony counts and is now serving 28 years in Federal prison. Former Judge and current Inmate Conahan plead guilty to one count and was sentenced to 17-and-a-half years in Federal prison. Powell will be sentenced at 9 am by Judge Edwin Kosik. Legal experts say Powell faces one to two years in prison. Eyewitness News will have live coverage of the Powell sentencing beginning at 5 a.m. Friday.
http://pahomepage.com/fulltext/?nxd_id=209066

Robert Powell, mentioned in #182, received a sentence of 1 1/2 years plus $60,000 fine. He will surrender after Thanksgiving.

I first heard about Solyndra on Fox, way before any other news station even mentioned it. I was literally shocked that it was a week or more of constant mention by Fox station before CNN even mentioned it. I watch both stations every night during dinner just to be fair and balanced. On a daily basis you hear about blatant foolish free handed use of “government money”. When will they realise or care that “government money” comes from THEY THE PEOPLE, aka us that pay taxes ?

I hope they bring these bleeding corporations to task and soon !

Headclunker – I knew you were interested in solar as a business and wanted to ask you what you thought about it but didn’t. I love having solar and wish they were more affordable. Now I am limited to motion sensors, yard lights etc.
It is a shame that we invested so much money into a company that quickly went through all the money in such a short time. There is truth in the fact that if it is not your hard earned money, it will soon be squandered – easy come, easy go.

((((goofsmom)))) hope you are feeling better today..

Dances is so right on.. in her post @177..
“At any rate, I’m glad this video has gone viral, although you have to wonder how many girls and women are being abused that we’ll never know about.
Freakin’ mutant barbarian abusers.”

and that is what keeps me awake many nights…the ones we don’t know about.

anyway..i’ll never forget the night ( i was 17)..when i turned the tables on my ‘monster’. without going into detail..i can say..he folded like a cheap lawn chair in a windstorm ( they are cowards you know)…after that i went to live with relatives and later on in life.. met my soulmate. We have spent 35+ wonderful years together..
i only wish we had 35 more.

the ‘monster’ lived to a ripe ole age..but left this world.. all alone in his easy chair.. with his half empty bottle of jack beside him..
if there is any justice..he is a short order cook in hell right now.

thanks for listening (((Pumas)))…i think i have it all back in the box now..
time to do lunch/meds for my ‘honey’.

bbl.

OMG…this is so beautiful!!

h/t JanH (comment section @ Hill44):

Bookmark the permalink.
“My Friendship with Hillary Clinton’s Mother: The Influence of Observant, Worldly, Hopeful Mrs. Rodham”

http://carlanthonyonline.com/2011/11/04/friendship-with-the-mother-of-hillary-clinton-the-influence-of-observant-worldly-hopeful-mrs-rodham/

also…this is a utube of he made of his beloved dog, Yeager Meister..very moving.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyj74MkKr4E

h/t Mrs smith (comment section @Hill44)

Thank you Carl Anthony!!

bbl.

#195

thank you (((goofsmom)))..you are so kind, with the heart of a lion (Puma)…
..and the same to you “I am here don’t ever forget that”..and you can have my email anytime. XOXOXO to you too

wow goofsmom…i’ve been tying to answer your post..for hrs.now..lol
everytime i sit down to write..i have to jump up again..
Buddy (my hubby) is all tucked in now..so i’m going to light some candles, surf for awhile and then settle down with a book. nitetime is my friend

G’night Pumas..sleep tight.

OK – I need some adult supervision and there is no one home for another week. I don’t want to ask friends because I want this to be low key – as in no one needs to know except you anonymous Pumas here.
I need 20 or 30 inexpensive tents…simple to set up BUT must fit a normal sidewalk. I narrowed this on http://www.overstock.com

http://www.overstock.com/Sports-Toys/Happy-Camper-2-person-Tent/5967331/product.html
It looks decent. I am not a tent camper and don’t know if tents are all waterproof – it has a rain fly so it should be. Right?

42 inches high x 76 inches wide x 60 inches deep – Would it fit a sidewalk ?

It only comes in one color which makes for difficulty in identifying ones tent. No big deal.

Can someone (or two) please give me your two cents? Soon ? I noticed it says on the shopping cart “Today”. So hopefully it will be the same price tomorrow.

hi

#198 freddiebrown

freddie..your project sounds very interesting…

one of the reviews for the tent you linked said they had a problem with the rain getting thru..nice looking tent though.

also..you might try this ( i googled.. cheap waterproof tents)..this came up for Amazon..hope it helps. i haven’t been camping in years ..but i loved it. good luck with your project

http://www.amazon.com/s/?ie=UTF8&keywords=waterproof+tents&tag=googhydr-20&index=sporting&hvadid=5198242987&ref=pd_sl_9fesn7f0pp_b

#200 Texas Tigress

“hi”….well i haven’t in a very, very long time..but i have to admit i still get the urge every now and then

just kidding..hiya TT

PumaRythmn -
Thanks for the Amazon link…- I didn’t see the review that the one I thought of Leaks ! Every Friday we drive downtown to the waterfront to walk Fred and I have seen an increase in what appears to be recent homeless people. They just don’t look like your average. There are lots of them that line the sidewalks of a certain area in the evenings when they come together to pitch their lean to (with patch up tarps, cardboard etc), some have tents.
It is difficult to see them setting up their beds with roughly pitched up shelters just for a night – to be taken down the next morning.

I thought it would be nice to get some tents for the ones without, so that it is safe from the elements, looks decent so they won’t get chased out of their side walks by police. A two person tent so they have space to put their stuff inside. I think the only criteria is water proof and fits the sidewalk – unless there is something I am not thinking of. It is starting to be rainy season in San Diego. (rained all day two days ago).

I also wonder if the ones with tents already would feel left out if they didn’t get anything. A gift card to a grocery store two blocks away ?
or money ?

I am looking for 30 tents (below $50 – San Diego is pretty mild, only rains in Winter) so I have to be careful to get the right ones. Overstock. com offers free shipping with trail membership

Dances,

#207 – Thank you. Just got your mail.

PumaRhythm,

Ditto Dances at 207. I would like to stay in touch with you off board.

FLBarbara,

#199 – I sent my letter out yesterday.

#207 Dances

thanks DWP…I sent my addy to actioncenter@pumapac.org.. thru my regular email.
LOL..couldn’t work the link..

Thanks, Dances

#208 goofsmom

great!

Freddie,
I don’t know how much room is in a one person tent.. cos most of them have stuff that I am sure they don’t want to leave outside the tent. I will look into the one person tents just to see.
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Usually they use a wall and then barricade themselves with their belongings, shopping carts, etc.. Maybe an inexpensive tent and one of those blue tarps for their bulkier stuff and or to use as a rain fly?
I’d think the less bulk they have to schlep around, the more covert, the better. No?

Let me now if you need and assistance, driver, schlepper, human back-up, etc.

Goofs and PumaRhythm (or as Murphy would say: PumaRhithym )
Check your email. The deed is done.

There is something wrong with my computer. It takes so long to surf. Since two weeks ago. Its like being on dial up sometimes. And then when you type, sometimes the words take their time displaying. :[

#219 ‘alphabet’

Thanks for your offer to help DWP. I’ll see if Fred’s dad will help when he gets back.
Shopping for this is not as easy as I thought – budget, ease of set up, size, rain proof, This looks suitable but I don’t know how easy it is to set up – got to take into consideration, the demographics. Am I over analyzing or just get a tent that is water proof ?? Anyone ?
http://www.amazon.com/Wenzel-Hiker-4-Feet-One-Person-Light/dp/B002PAYHRU

Freddie
I think “rainproof” is the most important feature for San Diego. 3-Season is overkill.

$35.00 for this:
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=10756674
Review: Great Tent and Very EASY to SetUP!, 11/05/2009Bought this tent for cub scout weekend of camping. Ease of setup was just as described. It RAINED a lot during our outing and we stayed dry inside.

http://www.overstock.com/Sports-Toys/Stansport-Scout-2-person-Forest-Green-Tan-Nylon-Tent/5510286/customer-reviews.html

Sports Chalet, Sports Authority, etc. are other options, as is eBay.
If any vendor can’t fulfill your entire order, you could purchase what they have available and complete the order through other vendors.

Freddie
Try emptying your cache and see if your computer runs any faster.

thamericanway #201,

You are putting me to shame, I have only reviewed through 35 and now I will have to catch up. I have been busy with my daughter who got through her surgeries and is doing well. And of course I am dreaming of solar energy, but we are going get to get this done.

Dances,

#216 – Got it thanks!

#225 –

pssst…black bear and mountain lion do not distinguish between camping and glamping tents! Just sayin’

I don’t know how Headclunker does all that she does. I have some experience with maintaining databases while updating them. It’s not easy. She also deals with the lower level technological skills I have. Then there are the redesigns which Obama people have forced her to do as I understand it, to keep their updates compatible with what they provided the first time. That was a cheap cheap trick borne of Chicago and maybe even Reverend Wright. Headclunker overcame that obstacle because she has lots of smarts and and a ton of ‘drive,’ & patience.

FECKTeam is just one of her side jobs. She’s a stellar breadwinner who just this year achieved her proper recognition as an engineer. She’s an attentive Mom, as well as an entrepreneur in transition from one business to another. No doubt she manages and maintains the household.

So glad to know daughter is doing well! FEC will come together if it is supposed to.

Up thread, I am glad to see that Hell froze over.

(((PUMAs))) keep up the fight.

Heellllloooo Billie Jooooo..
Long time no hear from you…
I hope all is well. I am heading to Marshall, Point Reyes, Inverness this Thanksgiving week – renting a cabin overlooking the ocean. I’ll wave if I’m near Berkeley etc..
I thought I better do some good deeds, just in case I did some bad ones this year – yer never know, better to have some good karma in the bank in case I need an advance.

Freddie
Is this a Democrats wish list that WE pay for college tuition for illegal immigrants?

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I don’t care if the Big Dawg, Hillary or God said it, I am DEAD set against paying my taxes to pay any illegal college tuition. Perry likes this too, so it isn’t just Dems.

Calif is in the hole partly because of all the freebies given to illegals in our state.

Thank you Billie and DWP. I thought I was one Fricking cold hearted Democrat.
I don’t know how Bill Clinton can say this in light of so many cuts in education etc etc. The fact is that states are broke, the fact is the country is broke. Pandering is one thing, but down right Not speaking for us people that voted for THEM is another. I don’t care if you are the 1% that wants to give your money away to the illegals, just don’t give mine away. I want my tax dollars to be for the betterment of all US citizens..
Yes, Perry is for this too so that is why I wish him nothing but the end of the line.

Do you remember that with every tax form you fill in you get to indicate if you want to contribute $1 to the Wildlife fund or some other thing. Well, I think people who want to pay for illegals (medical, education etc etc) ought to have a way to check off that they want x$ deducted from their pay check or x$ contributed to their cause. LEAVE us the F out of this.
You see all these protests from Latino groups against cuts etc.. or against illegal immigration. I would like to see them volunteer 5 Fing bucks out of their pocket every month to support these causes that are so close to their hearts.

Freddiebrown, all charity should be local. What you see is what you can help not to mention cries of help from ones you know and love. I believe this and do this, I like knowing my limited dollars are knowing where those dollars go. Good job on the tents and the woman who needs help. Oh and I bought the mag that showed your bag, NICE!

Is Sunpower the next Solyndra?

Fox News is now sniffing around the $1.2 billion government loan made to Sunpower, that bears a scary resemblance to the Solyndra deal. Sunpower is a more well established corporation, with a premium product. They apparently took the loan and cut some deal with a French company http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2011/06/15/sunpower-investors-back-total-takeover/

So, what’s the problem? US Taxpayers have made Sunpower a $1.2 billion dollar loan, but YOU cannot buy their solar panels. I had seen them at Solarpanelsonline, but they have become unavailable http://www.solarpanelsonline.org/SunPower-315-watt-Solar-Panel-p/sunpower315.htm. Otherwise, you must get them through their “installers”.

If you want to call Sunpower to ask them why they do not sell their solar panels to their investors, contact them at: 1-800-SUNPOWER

Great news…

Mississippi abortion vote appears poised for defeat

(Reuters) – An amendment to the state constitution aimed at outlawing abortion in Mississippi appeared headed for defeat on Tuesday, a setback to abortion opponents seeking to overturn the Supreme Court decision legalizing abortion in the United States.

With 51 percent of the precincts reporting, 59 percent of voters had rejected the measure and 41 percent had voted for it, according to the Clarion-Ledger newspaper in Jackson, Mississippi.
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http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/11/09/us-election-abortion-mississippi-idUSTRE7A80I820111109

Ditto Dances DITTO!!!
Gawdamned asshole backwater crazies!!!
Never will I votw for any man or any party with the crazies running rampart on my rights.

“We accomplished our mission to be a voice for the voiceless who have no one else speaking for them,” said Keith Mason of Personhood USA. “I want to make a commitment that we will stand with Mississippi until all humans are treated as persons.”
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A sperm entering an egg certainly does not = a child.

Perhaps those 41% should concern themselves with ACTUAL CHILDREN that are “destroyed” by abusive homes, are stuck in the foster care system (because no one will step up give them a family and a home), or those that so far below the poverty level they resemble third world children.

freddie,

Maybe a silly idea but go to the 99cent store and get some bracelets, when you hand out the bags and/or tents give them a bracelet. If you see the bracelet then you will know that you have already helped them.

invalidresponse 11.09.11 at 2:24 pm
Perhaps those 41% should concern themselves with ACTUAL CHILDREN that are “destroyed” by abusive homes, are stuck in the foster care system (because no one will step up give them a family and a home), or those that so far below the poverty level they resemble third world children.
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My thoughts exactly. They believe life begins at conception (and ends at birth).

Freddie…
Hand out bag or tent at the same time… you won’t recall who you gave what to otherwise, unless you intend to dip their thumbs in ink. You might want to be very low key about it and give out a few (quietly) in a couple of different areas.

I can be available tomorrow for several hours then I’m going RVing on Friday for the weekend.
I haven’t any plans for the 19th -20th and can be available.

I can be available weekday evening after 5pm too.

wow,
Remember when we had…”the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances”

Police state, Police brutality, UC Berkeley
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_f06VQOkI4

Police are to Occupiers as Occupying males are to Occupying women.

IR
Read Occupy Patriarchy on Facebook for comments on how the faux-gressive dudes are treating women at various occupy sites.

Happy Veteran’s Day

Wishing all of the Veteran’s in our PUMA family a hearty Thank YOU!

Evelyn H. Lauder, Champion of Breast Cancer Research, Dies at 75

Evelyn H. Lauder, a refugee of Nazi-occupied Europe who married into an illustrious family in the beauty business and became an ardent advocate for breast cancer awareness, raising millions for research, died on Saturday at her home in Manhattan. She was 75.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/13/nyregion/evelyn-h-lauder-champion-of-breast-cancer-research-dies-at-75.html?amp

i.e., “War Redefined” is the final segment; the series title is “Women, War & Peace.”

Obama is about to control the Internet:

http://godfatherpolitics.com/2021/us-government-abou-to-control-internet/#ixzz1dhvG0iqb

On Sunday, Nov. 20, ‘Net Neutrality’ will take effect.

Network Neutrality | Free Press
http://www.freepress.net/policy/internet/net_neutralityCached –
Net Neutrality means that Internet service providers may not discriminate between different kinds of content and applications online. It guarantees a level playing …
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Victory – Net Neutrality

Today the Senate voted down the resolution that would have shuttered the open Internet.
http://www.savetheinternet.com/blog/11/11/10/victory-net-neutrality

This outrageous measure would have stripped us of our right to communicate freely online and handed control of the Internet to companies like AT&T, Comcast and Verizon.

But the public outcry stopped this resolution in its tracks. And thanks to your efforts, not only did we win the vote, but Net Neutrality’s champions in Congress spoke out passionately and persuasively about the importance of the free and open Internet.
:::snip:::
Now that we’ve thwarted this partisan stunt, we can get back to the real priority: strengthening the Federal Communications Commission’s rules to protect all Internet users, whether they access the Web via a home connection or a mobile device.

The FCC’s new rules go into effect on Nov. 20. But these rules fail to protect mobile Internet users from corporate abuse. As more and more of us use phones and tablets to get online, we need to make sure that all Internet users are protected.

In the months to come, the Free Press Action Fund will push the FCC to make its Open Internet rules much stronger — even if that means going to court, where we are suing the agency for failing to protect all Internet users.

Today’s Senate vote is a major victory for the public and sends a resounding message: The American people don’t want companies like AT&T, Comcast and Verizon blocking websites or interfering with our ability to access whatever we want, whenever we want it, from wherever we are.
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Saving the Democratic Internet
http://www.savetheinternet.com/blog/11/11/09/saving-democratic-internet

Opponents of the open Internet like to portray its guiding rule, Net Neutrality, as “a government takeover of the Internet.”

They argue that from the day of its inception the Internet has existed free of regulation — a perfect expression of the marketplace at work.

What they don’t understand is that the Internet is a far better expression of democracy, and as such needs rules like Net Neutrality to ensure all users have equal access to online content and applications.

And in reality the Internet as we now know it would never have existed were it not for rules and regulation, beginning with the openness standards created by the Internet’s founders some 40 years ago, codified in the Telecommunications Act of 1996 and updated in recent orders by the Federal Communications Commission.

WHEW!! Thanks Dances for the info on Net Neutrality.

A HISTORY LESSON! Sorry this is long but so are the laughs.

Where did “Piss Poor” come from?

They used to use urine to tan animal skins, so families used to all pee in a pot.

And then once it was full it was taken and sold to the tannery…

if you had to do this to survive you were “Piss Poor”.
But worse than that were the really poor folk who couldn’t even afford to buy a pot…

They “didn’t have a pot to piss in” and were the lowest of the low.

The next time you are washing your hands and complain because the water temperature
Isn’t just how you like it, think about how things used to be.

Here are some facts about the 1500′s

Most people got married in June because they took their yearly bath in May,

And they still smelled pretty good by June. However, since they were starting to smell,
Brides carried a bouquet of flowers to hide the body odor.

Hence the custom today of carrying a bouquet when getting married.

Baths consisted of a big tub filled with hot water.

The man of the house had the privilege of the nice clean water,

Then all the other sons and men, then the women and finally the children.

Last of all the babies.

By then the water was so dirty you could actually lose someone in it.

Hence the saying, “Don’t throw the baby out with the Bath water!”

Houses had thatched roofs-thick straw-piled high, with no wood underneath.

It was the only place for animals to get warm, so all the cats and other small animals
(mice, bugs) lived in the roof.

When it rained it became slippery and sometimes the animals would slip and fall off the roof.
Hence the saying, “It’s raining cats and dogs.”
There was nothing to stop things from falling into the house.

This posed a real problem in the bedroom where bugs and other droppings

Could mess up your nice clean bed.

Hence, a bed with big posts and a sheet hung over the top afforded some protection.

That’s how canopy beds came into existence.

The floor was dirt. Only the wealthy had something other than dirt.

Hence the saying, “Dirt poor.” The wealthy had slate floors that would get slippery
In the winter when wet, so they spread thresh (straw) on the floor to help keep their footing.

As the winter wore on, they added more thresh until, when you opened the door,
It would all start slipping outside. A piece of wood was placed in the entrance-way.
Hence: a thresh hold.

(Getting quite an education, aren’t you?)

In those old days, they cooked in the kitchen with a big kettle that always hung over the fire.

Every day they lit the fire and added things to the pot. They ate mostly vegetables
And did not get much meat. They would eat the stew for dinner, leaving leftovers
In the pot to get cold overnight and then start over the next day.

Sometimes stew had food in it that had been there for quite a while.

Hence the rhyme:

“Peas porridge hot, peas porridge cold, peas porridge in the pot nine days old”.
Sometimes they could obtain pork, which made them feel quite special.

When visitors came over, they would hang up their bacon to show off.

It was a sign of wealth that a man could, “bring home the bacon.”

They would cut off a little to share with guests

And would all sit around and chew the fat.

Those with money had plates made of pewter.

Food with high acid content caused some of the lead to leach onto the food, causing lead poisoning death.

This happened most often with tomatoes,
so for the next 400 years or so, tomatoes were considered poisonous.

Bread was divided according to status.

Workers got the burnt bottom of the loaf, the family got the middle,

and guests got the top, or the upper crust.

Lead cups were used to drink ale or whisky.
The combination would sometimes knock the imbibers out for a couple of days.
Someone walking along the road would take them for dead and prepare them for burial.
They were laid out on the kitchen table for a couple of days and the family would gather around
and eat and drink and wait and see if they would wake up.

Hence the custom; “of holding a wake”.

England is old and small and the local folks started running out of places to bury people.

So they would dig up coffins and would take the bones to a bone-house, and reuse the grave..

When reopening these coffins, 1 out of 25 coffins were found to have scratch marks on the inside and they realized they had been burying people alive.

So they would tie a string on the wrist of the corpse, lead it through the coffin and up through the ground and tie it to a bell.

Someone would have to sit out in the graveyard all night (the graveyard shift) to listen for the bell; thus, someone could be,
“saved by the bell” or was “considered a dead ringer”.

And that’s the truth.

Women For Obama:

http://campaign2012.washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/beltway-confidential/obama-campaign-targets-female-vote

Anyone want to sign up?

That’s a joke!

ODimmer speaketh:

Obama Mistakenly Refers to Hawaii as ‘Asia’ During Summit

November 15, 2011
Nov. 13, 2011: President Obama speaks during his closing press conference at the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation summit near Honolulu, Hawaii.
It’s hard to mistake that Hawaiian scenery.

But President Obama apparently forgot where he was during his press conference Sunday on the outskirts of Honolulu — despite being born there.

The president mistakenly described his location as “Asia” while answering a question about budget cuts.

“When I meet with world leaders, what’s striking — whether it’s in Europe or here in Asia — the kinds of fundamental reforms and changes, both on the revenue side and the public pension side, that other countries are having to make are so much more significant than what we need to do in order to get our books in order,” Obama said

I heard that speech where the dimwit, thought he was in Asia…can’t tell the palm trees apart, eh ? I couldn’t believe the media didn’t give him a hard time about it. But then again, the media(except for Fox) lovesssss him.

He sounded so lack luster.

Goofs – he probably had golf on his mind and can’t wait to get the hell out of there.
I got some tents today. Haven’t opened – 4 huge boxes.
I think they are straggling in.. We did a drive through on Saturday just taking note how many homeless didn’t have tents-quite a few. It rained/poured all day and I can’t imagine how they kept dry in their various patch up tarp / plastic.

So, I guess now there will be rumors that BO was born in Asia.

Poor thing. I guess he really does not know where he is from or where he is going.

OMG they had yet another “debate”!!! I am so sick of those crazy, misfits and their wars and kill and torture garbage.
They are starting to remind me of a terrorist group, SERIOUSLY!!!

I do have to comment on the site I posted above.

The website states that at 9:11 AM the opening bell was delayed. This is nonsense. The bell doesn’t even ring until 9:30 AM, which it did again this morning. Wall Street has opened for business as usual.

The live stream video on the site is good, but the information is not reliable.

Sorry.

obama at – 00 HP BOSTON :devil:

Headclunker, 48 is ready.

freddiebrown 11.17.11 at 6:51 pm
Delle you crackpot you!
Now I know not to believe your TSA links… just kidding. Can’t help it.
You’re a good sport.
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Yep she is!
and… good job Catching the “bell rings 15 minutes late” baloney! The 9:30 AM EST was when the starting bell time was set in 1985. September, I think.
9:30 AM EST – 4:00 PM EST

Ya just can’t take anything you read at face value, even something as simple and verifiable as the nyse starting bell … everyone has an agenda.

“Just remember, if the world didn’t suck, we’d all fall off.” – Author Unknown

TT, as per request,

in his own words (interviews)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHXSxWbJCYA
and
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPhUgLNQi1c

ugh . thanks inv. I want someone I can be FOR .

DWP – We’re doing the tents and sleeping bags today around 4:30 – dragging Fred’s little red wagon (ya, he has a red wagon !) If you drive by around 14th
Street / G or whatever (towards Freeway 94 E entrance) you may see us.
It gets dark around 5pm and we want to be able to see what we’re doing
and generally be safe. Have not seen the sun today and it feels like it
may rain though it says Sunday.

Thanks for your offer of help. We’ll see what happens and report back later.

“No hope of any of the republicans gettin’ my vote.”

Agreed, what she said.

freddiebrown 11.18.11 at 6:06 pm
DWP – We’re doing the tents and sleeping bags today around 4:30 – dragging Fred’s little red wagon (ya, he has a red wagon !) If you drive by around 14th
Street / G or whatever (towards Freeway 94 E entrance) you may see us. It gets dark around 5pm and we want to be able to see what we’re doing and generally be safe. Have not seen the sun today and it feels like it may rain though it says Sunday.
Thanks for your offer of help. We’ll see what happens and report back later.
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Good on ya, freddie!! Forecast is for rain for the next three days. Timely tents!

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