A Brutal, Sustained Assault. On Us All.

by murphy on February 16, 2011

in Action,Sexist Onslaught,The War on Women

Lara Logan is pictured in Cairo's Tahrir Square moments before she was assaulted in this photograph taken on February 11. Photo: Reuters

The chief foreign correspondent for CBS News was gang-raped in the middle of the day by an unnamed number of Egyptian men in Liberty Square, Cairo, during, wait for it, DEMOCRACY protests. Ah, Tahrir Square, the place now as hallowed in the brainwashed minds of the mostly male, wholly misogynistic progressive left as the Old North Bridge, the Gettysburgh battlefield, the Washington Mall on August 28, 1963, the Berlin Wall in 1989, and the Bastille prison as a sacred birthplace of real democracy for the oppressed.*

We, along with a small handful of blogs, have been warning for weeks: this doesn’t look too rosy for Egyptian women, and asking “Where the heck are the women??” on the streets of Egypt.

We quoted back then this little doozy of an observation from an article attempting to whitewash the absence of a real voice for women’s particular rights in a possibly newly democratic Middle East:

“Protests have a reputation for being dangerous for Egyptian women, whose common struggle as objects of sexual harassment is exacerbated in the male dominated crowds.”

Ok, then. Women, it doesn’t get much plainer than that: merely being present in a protest crowd in this most “secular” Islamic country is an invitation to sex harassment. Of course, those familiar with visiting, working, and living in Islamic countries know that harassment is actually a tame concern. They know that women on the street in Egypt or Iran or Saudi Arabia or Kabul are actually likely to be downright assaulted, even gang raped. As the chief foreign correspondent for CBS News now knows.

As bad as this is, and it IS very, very bad, what’s almost unspeakably intolerable is the reaction of the progressive left, especially those with political and foreign policy power. I speak of course of Nir Rosen, a professor of foreign policy at NYU and a fellow at the Center for Law and Security there. Last night he tweeted he was compelled to “find the humor” in the “small thing” that happened to the Chief Correspondent, as well as several other jaw-droppingly misogynistic comments in which he chortled at the whole scenario and reminded his readers that the Chief’s supposed bias in favor of US military actions in Af/Pak and Iraq makes what happened to her a lot less worse than what has been happening to the people of those regions.

Rosen has been allowed to resign his post at the CLC. He should have been fired. I’m blogging from work on a tablet and linking/researching is, let’s just say, limited, so I can’t readily look up where else this jackass works. If anyone can post any links or information about Rosen, as well as any of the other progressive rape apologists (paging Glenn Greenwald and Michael Moore), please post them in comments.

Sandress over at crawdad, along with several commenters, have been covering this all day and have lots of good links.

*The meaning and unremarked upon understanding of “the oppressed” in all of the above examples, with perhaps the exception of East Berlin, where communism at least offered the female half of the population legal equal rights under the law going all the way back to 1917, is that oppression only ever matters when it is done to men. Oppressed has always meant oppressed MEN in all political and social populist revolts.

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PumaRhythm 02.16.11 at 4:34 pm

You Hit the nail on the head Murphy..as usual!!! Great Post!!

the only list i could find is over et crawdads..
a comment by okasha skatsi..

“Okay, some of his more frequent publishers seem to be Rolling Stone, Boston Review and The Wasington Post. Those should do to start with. I have to get ready for class, but will post later with addresses and other publishers.”

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ths comment was also posted over at Uppitys by PMM

sorry…i’m typing with arm in sling and 3 of fingers r numb..
i’m so f*king pissed..not staying away from computer tday…no way!!!!

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Headclunker 02.16.11 at 5:32 pm

Here is an interesting post from http://egyptianchronicles.blogspot.com/2011/02/regarding-lara-logan.html:

TheGeneral said…

Unfortunately I heard some eye witness accounts that suggest whoever did that was a random mob of people from the nearby slums who came out to celebrate, it was not an organized thing. Some tried to pick up a fight with her and started yelling that she was Israeli and the situation escalated very quickly. Some of the Tahrir guys tried to intervene and form a circle around her, but there were too many of the aggressors to fend off. She was actually dragged away and assaulted for a complete 30 mins before the army intervened. My friend was telling me they were broken hearted hearing her screams while not being able to do anything to save her.
2/16/2011 06:41:00 PM

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Headclunker 02.16.11 at 5:57 pm

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goofsmom 02.16.11 at 6:55 pm

Great thread Murphy.

Rosin article link and quote on where he has published.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110216/ap_en_tv/us_lara_logan_tweets

“As a fellow at the Center on Law and Security, he had a salary and a work space.

The center’s executive director, Karen J. Greenberg, said Wednesday that she had accepted Rosen’s resignation.

“Nir Rosen is always provocative, but he crossed the line with his comments about Lara Logan,” Greenberg said. “I am deeply distressed by what he wrote about Ms. Logan and strongly denounce his comments. They were cruel and insensitive and completely unacceptable.”

Rosen is the author of books about Iraq including “In the Belly of the Green Bird: The Triumph of the Martyrs in Iraq” and “Aftermath: Following the Bloodshed of America’s Wars in the Muslim World.”

He has written for publications including Time, The New Yorker and the New York Times Magazine.

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goofsmom 02.16.11 at 7:28 pm

More on Rosen and his writings…

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nir_Rosen
——-snip
He regularly contributes to leading periodicals, such as Atlantic Monthly, the Washington Post, the New York Times Magazine, the Boston Review, and Harper’s. He contributed to the footage of Iraq in Charles Ferguson’s documentary No End In Sight and was also interviewed for the film.
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Books
In the Belly of the Green Bird: The Triumph of the Martyrs in Iraq, New York: Free Press, 2006. ISBN 0-7432-7703-1
(as paperback) The Triumph of the Martyrs: A Reporter’s Journey into Occupied Iraq, Potomac Books Inc., 2008. ISBN 1597971847
Aftermath: Following the Bloodshed of America’s Wars in the Muslim World, Nation Books, 2010. ISBN 1568584016
Articles (excerpt)
“If America Left Iraq: The case for cutting and running” The Atlantic Monthly (December 2005).
“Anatomy of a Civil War: Iraq’s descent into chaos”, Boston Review (November/December, 2006)
“Nir Rosen on Iraq’s descent into civil war: ‘This is a U.S. crime’”. Socialist Worker (December 8, 2006 | Pages 6 and 7)
“The Flight from Iraq”, New York Times Magazine (May 13, 2007)
“Riding Shotgun With Our Shadow Army in Iraq”, Mother Jones (May/June 2007)
“Al Qaeda in Lebanon: The Iraq war spreads” Boston Review (January/February 2008)
“The Myth of the Surge”, Rolling Stone (March 2008)
“How we lost the war we won”, Rolling Stone (October 2008)
“Gaza: the logic of colonial power”, The Guardian (December 2008)
“How Did al-Shabab Emerge from the Chaos of Somalia?”, Time (August 20, 2010)
“Somalia’s al-Shabab: A Global or Local Movement?”, Time (August 20, 2010)
——–snip

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goofsmom 02.16.11 at 7:31 pm

Nir Rosen webpage with complete list of articles and links.

http://www.nirrosen.com/blog/

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goofsmom 02.16.11 at 8:26 pm

Great article from Shannon Galpin on HuffPo…

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/shannon-galpin/whats-blonde-got-to-do-wi_b_824319.html
——-snip
The other thing that disturbs me about the coverage is pinning the attack on culture. The Daily Beast article states: “Logan faced an ugly side of Egypt that Egyptian and foreign women here are all too familiar–and fed up–with.” I can only imagine how the Fox News coverage will spin this into the Islamaphobia-sphere.
——snip
Every two minutes, someone in the United States is sexually assaulted. That’s 1 in 6 women. While rape victims are not routinely jailed as they are in some countries, neither are their attackers. The Rape, Abuse and Incest National Network (RAINN) estimates that only 6% of rapists will ever spend a day in jail.
——snip
Sexual assault is not a problem that belongs only to the Middle East, the developing world and war zones. This is a systemic problem that spans the globe, including our own backyard. It is rooted in how we value women. How do you change perceptions of value and respect? Things will never change until violence against women moves from a women’s right issue to a human rights issue that EVERYONE gets behind. Using World Bank data for 2008, there were 2,982,865,203 women of all ages; approximately 44.3% of the total world population. Nearly 3 billion mothers, daughters, sisters, and friends.
—–snip
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Sums up how I’m feeling today.

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simofish 02.16.11 at 8:44 pm

this just pisses me off – when the F are women gonna stand up and say NO F’ING MORE

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honora 02.16.11 at 9:52 pm

simofish— I know how you feel. On the last post, I noted that “Against Our Will: Men, Women, and Rape” by Susan Brownmiller is the book that changed my life when I was young. How many students still read this book??? Of course, books on Black History, etc. are the base of college degrees. Does anyone study about the abuse and degradation of women day in and day out. It should be required reading in every high school history class. Rape is a powerful tool that has been used to control women for centuries and nothing has changed in this country or around the world.

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honora 02.16.11 at 10:01 pm

So lets talk about not allowing women to be foreign correspondents. Shouldn’t we make sure that Jewish reporters like Daniel Pearl are protected and Gay reporters like Anderson Cooper are protected?? Maybe it would be easier if we just stopped the crazy people. Failing that accept that crazy people will attack and women and Gays and Jews,etc. It all comes back to a convenient way to ‘protect’ women from men instead of stopping the men from doing illegal stuff. Let’s not neglect the story that broke yesterday about US military women that are being raped and victimized by their fellow US military men and the US government. Must be time to sent the little ladies home, the boys will be boys.

If I remember correctly the US military made sure that Jewish soldiers, Black soldiers (working on Gay soldiers) are treated with respect WHY is it so much harder with women. Answer– because they fundamentally do not see women as being as good as they are.

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DancesWithPumas 02.16.11 at 11:02 pm

More from the fraud. Does anyone believe this ?? It reminds me of the belated, after the fact video of Obama’s “I’m against the war” bullcrap.

Secret Report Ordered by Obama Identified Potential Uprisings
By MARK LANDLER

WASHINGTON — President Obama ordered his advisers last August to produce a secret report on unrest in the Arab world, which concluded that without sweeping political changes, countries from Bahrain to Yemen were ripe for popular revolt, administration officials said Wednesday.

Mr. Obama’s order, known as a Presidential Study Directive, identified likely flashpoints, most notably Egypt, and solicited proposals for how the administration could push for political change in countries with autocratic rulers who are also valuable allies of the United States, these officials said.

more at:
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/17/world/middleeast/17diplomacy.html?_r=1&hp=&adxnnl=1&adxnnlx=1297915240-oTSMgbPsA1yMOqZsIXXWUg

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Zee 02.17.11 at 2:07 am

THANK you for this post, Murphy…I was rather shocked TGW was not already on this.

I liked this story, even tho the writer was attacked by Salon as “blaming the victim” and admitted her inbox was flooded with HATE mail!

http://blogs.laweekly.com/informer/2011/02/lara_logan_raped_egypt_reporte.php

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Zee 02.17.11 at 2:17 am

Check this out… her team knew enough to not report the rape in Egypt…she might have been *arrested* for doing so!!

“But after she was assaulted, Logan went back to her hotel, and within two hours — sometime late Friday and into early Saturday — was flown out of Cairo on a chartered network jet, sources said. She wasn’t taken to a hospital in Egypt because the network didn’t trust local security there, sources said.

“And neither CBS nor Logan reported the crime to Egyptian authorities because they felt they couldn’t trust them, either, the sources said. ‘The way things are there now, they would have ended up arresting her again,’ one source said.”

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/international/cbs_reporter_cairo_nightmare_pXiUVvhwIDdCrbD95ybD5N#ixzz1ECKiOWf5

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turndownobama 02.17.11 at 2:51 am

I’m thinking about how to protest that LA WEekly thing. Comments/letters to the author are just trophies for her to show her editor. Feedback to the LA Weekly management is probably the same.

What some people did on a different magazine, was go around to the convenience stores etc that sell the magazine and complain to their managers. Ask them to take the magazine off the racks. Apparently THAT had some effect.

They also would print out flyers about the article and put them in front of the magazine on the rack, inside its pages, etc, telling readers where and how to complain to the store regional managers, magazine distributors, etc.

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Zee 02.17.11 at 3:11 am

oh dear, Uppity Woman and others there seem to have taken Salon’s snide swipe at Simone Wilson’s story (linked above) at face value. To my eyes, it’s a complete misrepresentation. It reminds me of how everyone now thinks Palin said she could see Russia from her back yard, when in fact it was Tina Fey who said that. My defense of Simone over at UW:

I have to speak up for Simone Wilson. I read her piece before reading Salon’s (mis)characterization of it. She mentions the brutal assault in her first sentence, so in my eyes, the woman writing for Salon is the one sensationalizing and the one not writing about the rape. It is also quite clear in reading the original that Simone Wilson was making a snide remark about the MEN “celebrating” and in their “excitement” attacked Lara. She was NOT excusing them or diminishing the attack in any way.

Also, “It’s not like she deserved it, but well, she is hot, right?” was written by the Salon woman, not Simone Wilson, and is odious in its snarkiness. Wilson was covering what other publications wrote about Lara, past and present. She was pointing out horrific comments from both the left and right regarding the rape. The “it girl” remarks were frequently direct quotes from publications like the New York Times!

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Zee 02.17.11 at 3:13 am

turndownobama….Salon is the one that turns my stomach. LA Weekly’s article was covering what *other publications* had to say about Lara!

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Zee 02.17.11 at 3:23 am

Oh, and let’s turn this into a cat fight seems to be Salon’s take! Simone pointed out horrific commentary from MEN, but hey, a woman was brutally mobbed and raped so let’s find a WOMAN we can beat up for the way she covered it. Read the original….Simone Wilson’s piece is NOTHING like Rosen’s. Not even close. Salon’s feigned outrage is a stretch. Their complaint that Simone mentions Lara’s looks “before getting around to mentioning the assault” should be the first clue, since the rape was mentioned in the very first sentence!

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TexasTigress 02.17.11 at 6:41 am

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honora 02.17.11 at 8:21 am

Thank God that Obama did not raise most of his money through illegal contributions. :evil: “The Obama Justice Department” is an oxymoron.

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Delle 02.17.11 at 10:13 am

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Uppity Woman 02.17.11 at 10:20 am

Gee for a second there, I thought I was going to read that some of Hillary’s contributions came from Hamas and unchecked charge card owners–and nobody did a thing about it. Oh wait, that was Barack.

Zee, thanks for the clarification on the quote about Lara. It’s what I get for reading an AOL article, not that they ever mislead anybody. AOL and Huffpo, perfect together.

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murphy 02.17.11 at 10:37 am

Jackasses all around.

Thanks for the comment Uppity, and for the clarification Zee.

One reason it’s so easy to be hoodwinked by snark or satire about the treatment of women is that what is actually acceptable in our culture is so over the top that it is challenging work for satirists to offer “modest proposals” that have the power to shock.

And THAT is a despicable state of affairs indeed.

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murphy 02.17.11 at 10:41 am

Acceptable in terms of treatment and depiction and description of women, of course. Other groups are treated with great respect by the mainstream media.

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Notyoursweetie 02.17.11 at 11:01 am

A few headlines in the tabloids for those events
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2011/02/17/tabloids-sexist-pig-gets-it/

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honora 02.17.11 at 11:48 am

Really great discussion of women in the Constitution on the Diane Rehm show today.

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Headclunker 02.17.11 at 6:44 pm

TT#18

Sounds like Ofucktard is throwing stones from a glass house. Just in time to throw smut on HRC in case there is any idea of a Primary Challenge. I just downloaded the 2010 FEC files for the Obama 2008 presidential campaign and we have been working on refining the cross-referencing of contributions for the FECK obama project.

Does anyone think we should send in an update to our FEC Complaint?

Does anyone

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goofsmom 02.17.11 at 7:23 pm

Headclunker,

#26 – “Does anyone think we should send in an update to our FEC Complaint?”

Yes, I do, everyone on the FECK obama team has put so much effort into this project. Thank you and the entire team for your persistence and skill.

IMHO, something good will come from all of your hard work. “O” will not get a free ride in 2012 and what the FECK team has been doing, will contribute to his down fall.

Again, thank you to everyone on the FECK obama project. :grin:

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PumaRhythm 02.17.11 at 8:05 pm

#26 Headclunker

Ditto what goofsmom said!!!

I think it’s amazing what the Feck Team has done!

***STANDING UP*** ***CLAPPING***

Thank You FECK Team!!

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goofsmom 02.17.11 at 8:17 pm

PumaRhythm,

#28 – I saw you aren’t doing well. Sending lots of healing get well wishes your way.

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honora 02.17.11 at 8:45 pm

Good thing I use hair dye this stuff would turn my head white. Now everyone is covering the poor, victimized boy that had to default rather than wrestle a girl. The inhumanity of making this boy actually have to wrestle against a girl. Of course, the girl is made to feel like a monster for getting her right to compete in a sport against boys. http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/41647511/ns/sports-other_sports/ and http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/02/17/sports/main20032962.shtml?tag=stack.

Basically, it is everywhere. This poor boy, home schooled and so very religious feels it is violence against women and he can have no part of it. Of course, his religion lets him be violent against men????

Please can the outrage, how many American girls have been raped, sold into slavery and denied their rights to participate in sports today. The story does not discuss the young women who are made to feel like their advancement is tainted. Can any of you imagine how this story would be handled if the boy said that he did not want to wrestle a black boy. He would be hung out. Message to boy, some of the male wrestlers are Gay males– maybe you should find a different sport if you are not up to it.

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murphy 02.17.11 at 9:33 pm

Perfectly said honora. One of the many things I love about youth hockey is that girls and boys play together until at least high school and sometimes even into high school, and apart from some grumbling by hockey dads I’ve never heard a boy player doubt the ability of girls to be as good if not better than boys at the sport.

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murphy 02.17.11 at 9:42 pm

Thank you for all yr links and info goofs and headclunker.

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PumaRhythm 02.17.11 at 10:48 pm

#29 goofsmom

Thank you goofsmom..feeling much better today.
The muscle relaxers seem to be working.
my typing has improved :smile:

Gnight (((Pumas))) slep tight

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PumaRhythm 02.17.11 at 10:49 pm

sleep tight

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DancesWithPumas 02.17.11 at 11:13 pm

Headclunker 02.17.11 at 6:44 pm

TT#18

Sounds like Ofucktard is throwing stones from a glass house. Just in time to throw smut on HRC in case there is any idea of a Primary Challenge. I just downloaded the 2010 FEC files for the Obama 2008 presidential campaign and we have been working on refining the cross-referencing of contributions for the FECK obama project.
Does anyone think we should send in an update to our FEC Complaint?

Does anyone
——————————
Yes!
Also, summary copies to media… anyone who will listen… including Hillary.

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theamericanway 02.18.11 at 1:37 pm

Does anyone think we should send in an update to our FEC Complaint?

Does anyone
———–
Also, summary copies to media… anyone who will listen… including Hillary.
———–
Yes, please.
Hi Murphy!

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goofsmom 02.18.11 at 6:35 pm

Murphy,

#32 – You’re welcome. :grin:

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Zee 02.18.11 at 8:51 pm

gurrrrrlz….it’s divide and conquer all the way, and I just want to send my love out to turndownobama and uppity woman.

I had to COOL OUT because this catfight stuff was making me crazy.

And now, to read from honora that they are targeting Clinton donors…too much. Deep breathing and waiting for feedback.

Oh, and the thunder and dog barking at it is not helping…!!! :)

But had some good news today….hoping others share some much overdue good fortune….

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Zee 02.18.11 at 8:54 pm

crap, I meant TT not honora… I blame ptsd from TT for sneaking up on me as I commented per post!! :shock: Well, I appreciate all the input from both!

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Delle 02.19.11 at 6:59 am

Several states won’t have enough money next year to run a primary:

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0211/Not_enough_money_for_a_2012_primary.html

In those states the primary will be replaced by a state party caucus system!

In the words of obama’s latest slogan – WTF?

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TexasTigress 02.19.11 at 7:14 am

Dell, WTF indeed .

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TexasTigress 02.19.11 at 7:17 am

PTTSZ (Zee’s version of PTSD)Post Texas Tigress Stress for Zee

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Delle 02.19.11 at 7:31 am

Details about the attack on Lara Logan:

http://wizbangpop.com/2011/02/18/the-controversial-and-shocking-details-about-the-lara-logan-attack/

People not only stood around watching – they recorded the attack on their phones!

This is difficult to read, but the public should know what the poor woman went through over there.

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turndownobama 02.19.11 at 8:32 am

Thanks, {{{{{Zee}}}}}! Just got back.

Fwiw, I read the LA Weekly story but not the Salon story. Zee, my take on Wilson/LA Weekly was opposite to yours. And when Wilson ‘apologized’ but said she’d gotten ‘hate mail’, I think she’s dismissing any and all negative feedback she’d gotten.

I also was more shocked at a woman writing something tacky about Logan, than at a man making a couple of jerky tweets (misinformed).

I don’t want to re-read any of this, but is LA Weekly known for subtle satire of other publications?

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turndownobama 02.19.11 at 8:39 am

they recorded the attack on their phones!
===========
I can’t bear to go to the link. But regardless of the watchers’ motives, at least it’s evidence. I hope they got sound, which might tell us which of the many factions over there were guilty. The same that attacked Cooper and other journalists, or pro-Mubarak ‘thugs’, or police in plainclothes, or just local hooligans (whom the protestors had kept out of the area when the protestors were controlling it; they’d stopped keeping people out after Mub really left).

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Headclunker 02.19.11 at 8:58 am

The attack on Logan sounds organized. I do not believe for a minute that it occurred as a spontaneous event. The people who took pictures did the only thing they could.

Now the question becomes, will they track those freaks down and cage them?

Women have been excluded from the military government forming in Egypt but the “Brotherhood” is there. At the very least, they need to show good faith towards women’s rights and do something about this.

FIND THE FREAKS!

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gojoyknocks 02.19.11 at 8:59 am

Delle’s link at #43 is a tough read. I’m hoping it isn’t factual. Weeping tears of sorrow and rage.

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BigCatLover 02.19.11 at 9:46 am

I would recommend that if you can stomach it, you should read the description of the Lara Logan attack. If even part of it is true, it is brutal and vicious and disgusting. Again, if it is true, this is a reality that we all have to deal with as women and understand that this happens (those who have already experienced an attack know it happens). I know nothing about the source and hope this is not some sleazy trash purveyor. Whatever happened, I’m sure it was horrible to endure.

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theamericanway 02.19.11 at 11:47 am

Headclunker, File31 is ready.

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Headclunker 02.19.11 at 1:36 pm

Theamericanway,

Got it. Check your email.

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Headclunker 02.19.11 at 1:54 pm

FECK obama Update:

http://pumapac.org/forums/feck-obama-team/comment-page-4/#comment-469045

I will making a few more posts there over the next few days.

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turndownobama 02.19.11 at 2:13 pm

Headclunker 02.19.11 at 8:58 am
The attack on Logan sounds organized. I do not believe for a minute that it occurred as a spontaneous event. The people who took pictures did the only thing they could.
==============
I may have missed something more recent, but the original CBS account said the crew had been surrounded by a crowd of 200 that had been “whipped into frenzy”. Other journalist crews in previous days had been attacked. So that sounds like it began as either a coincidence or an organized attack on the whole crew.
20 soldiers came to her rescue, so if the military is still in charge, I hope the crew and the Egyptian authorities are working on this, even if they’re not broadcasting the details.

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Headclunker 02.19.11 at 2:54 pm

Ok, we are looking for some PUMA who would like to help FECK obama.

What would you like to say to the FEC?
http://pumapac.org/forums/feck-obama-team/comment-page-4/#comment-469050

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Headclunker 02.19.11 at 7:00 pm

Hey, where did everybody go? Gee, just when I wanted to start a fight.

I am fed up and not going to take it anymore.

What do you think about making some PUMAPAC donations for some flowers for Lara? This might be the time to tell her that alot of people who think she is brave and beautiful are wishing her well and remembering her in their prayers.

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goofsmom 02.19.11 at 7:25 pm

Hey Headclunker,

#54 – I would love to help FECK Obama. I reviewed your post at #53 and can’t think of any changes.

I’d love to donate to the Lara Logan flower fund but can’t right now. It’s a great idea!

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Headclunker 02.19.11 at 8:46 pm

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Headclunker 02.19.11 at 8:47 pm

Goofsmom,

I can chip in some for you, too.

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Casper Cat 02.19.11 at 10:36 pm

Headclucker,theamericanway and others…. WOW!!!! Thank You for all that you are doing whatever I can do to help please let me know…. DWP and Murphy have my email… What an incredible and dedicated job well done…. Just remember, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gte3BoXKwP0 do take sometime to get away…. :smile: :lol: :lol: :lol: Really, let me know…. A heartfelt THANK YOU!! for all of your hardwork…. :smile:

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Zee 02.20.11 at 12:19 am

#44 turndownobama

Geez, I don’t know. I think, but could be wrong, that LA weekly is one of those gossip type rags.

iow, I don’t think the language was much different from most of their stories.

My point was, if it’s a style rag, the woman writing it was not being flip…she mentioned the brutal attack in the first sentence, so I think it was Salon, unfortunately, who was looking to sensationalize their angle.

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Zee 02.20.11 at 12:59 am

I read one detail on Lara’s attack that I can’t get out of my head. We do need to be brave on the details…

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Delle 02.20.11 at 6:41 am

Another woman was attacked in Tahrir Square:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1358759/I-mob-sex-attack-victim-Tahrir-Square–just-like-Lara-Logan.html#ixzz1ESjroUyG

It makes me wonder how many more women were atttacked or harassed and haven’t spoke out about it.

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goofsmom 02.20.11 at 7:12 am

(((Headclunker))) Thank you. :)

Unbelievable job the FECK team is doing. Way to go theamericanway!!!

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theamericanway 02.20.11 at 7:52 am

Uncovering Obama’s 2008 FEC indiscretions is a distinct pleasure, so much so that I will miss it once it is complete. Hopefully we can make it enough of a public issue that he’ll clean up his 2012 money collection scheme.

O/T: How does one make a donation for Lara Logan’s flowers?

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HP Boston 02.20.11 at 9:05 am

Oy Oy Oy
For all the despicable fucktardmen: may their dicks fall of and be eaten by dogs!!! Scum from one end of the earth to the other……..

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Headclunker 02.20.11 at 9:28 am

theamericanway #63

I just used the “Contribute” option at the top of the page.

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Zee 02.20.11 at 2:12 pm

HP…good to glimpse you!

Another annoying as FRACK detail on the Lara attack….the head up their arses pod progressives….male, of course…seem fond of repeating that if Lara has been a brown woman no one would’ve even known of her attack.

Speak for YOURSELVES, asswipes! Maybe YOU have been ignoring the “brown” women and girls being draped, raped, burned, beheaded and stoned around the world but not all of us have been.

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Headclunker 02.20.11 at 2:38 pm

Zee,

You tell ‘em! It is their hierarchy, not ours. Send them a link to the Women Lynching Forum.

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Headclunker 02.20.11 at 2:48 pm

More FECK Info:
http://pumapac.org/forums/feck-obama-team/comment-page-4/#comment-469129

The most enjoyable, ironic, thing about all this is that the funds exceeding the limit are over $10 million and BO only has $2 million cash on hand in the campaign fund. So his campaign is in DEBT.

Maybe he should ask Hillary to bail him out.

BBBBBBbbbbbwwwwwahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

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Headclunker 02.20.11 at 7:38 pm

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BigCatLover 02.20.11 at 8:45 pm

Delle
Apparently this groping, grabbing behaviour toward women is pretty common in cetain areas of the world. I hope moe women who have experienced this come forward. Maybe out countries will then be shamed into denouncing the behaviour and enforcing security in these volatile situations. As long as Lara Logan’s attack seems to be an isolated event, it will be swept under the rug.

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BigCatLover 02.20.11 at 8:46 pm

Headclunker
Will BO ever be forced to pay back these illegal contributions?

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Headclunker 02.20.11 at 10:12 pm

BigCatLover,

Looking over the FECK files, the overage does not look to be the $10 million that we thought it might be, but it is still around $2 million.

They are fooling around about paying it back. If we really wanted to make a stink, we could the contact the donors with exceedances and ask them to verify the records (and by the way, did you know you can get fined by the FEC for this?)

I think we already did what we set out to do. Resistance to the BO Fraud made it necessary for him to bring in more dirty money to get over. It was so much that it could not be hidden.

The $2 million he has not yet returned is not so important. What would be a real victory would be if the FEC would audit him.

And you can bet that there are alot of fines and penalties associated with all that bad bookkeeping.

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turndownobama 02.21.11 at 12:34 am

Zee 02.20.11 at 12:19 am
I think, but could be wrong, that LA weekly is one of those gossip type rags.
iow, I don’t think the language was much different from most of their stories.
=============

I think that’s right. So LA Weekly wouldn’t have been ‘satirizing’ other papers’ coverage. Whatever they said, was their own view.

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theamericanway 02.21.11 at 6:36 am

Headclunker, please check email.

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HP Boston 02.21.11 at 1:01 pm

Zee so glad we are awaiting some good news from you.
It is time your hard work and beautiful brain find a lucrative endeavor, you shine woman!
I have been busy feathering my nest.
Read as much as I can on the blog but it so distresses and depresses me.
My computer is gerryrigged on the floor awaiting new carpeting, makes for difficult typing.
I try to relax and carry on………keeping busy helps.

Carry on Pumas you rock!

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Zee 02.21.11 at 1:36 pm

#73 turndownobama

No, I didn’t meant to imply that they were satirizing other papers. I should clarify that the headline, and many of the phrases were in quotation marks because they were direct quotes, eg, the reporter was reporting what the New York Times said, verbatim. So the New York Times used some questionable phrases. But, to me, it was clear that the reporter had no intention of belittling what the men did, and I think, until now, no one even knew what exactly they did.

TGW has some of those horrific details. Lara was stripped and beaten. There are more details, if one can stomach them, check out the report over at Tn Guerilla Women.

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Zee 02.21.11 at 1:41 pm

Ack, HP….don’t mean to add to the depressing news on this space, but I have one more link to post for PUMAs in the Gulf region….the bottom of the Gulf (surprise) is still oil clogged and dead. This link has very disturbing details of the poor creatures on the gulf bed….poor dead creatures.

But it also mentions public meetings and hearings so I thought some PUMAs in the area would like to be involved….please, everyone, pass this info on to anyone who wants to be involved.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_sci_oil_spill_lingers

…announced the start of a Gulf restoration planning process to get the Gulf back to the condition it was on Apr. 19, the day before the spill. That program would eventually be paid for BP and other parties deemed responsible for the spill. This would be separate from an already begun restoration program that would improve all aspects of the Gulf, not just the oil spill, but has not been funded by the government yet, she said.

The new program, which is part of the Natural Resources Damage Assessment program, is part of the oil spill litigation — or out-of-court settlement — in which the polluters pay for overall damage to the ecosystem and efforts to return it to normal. This is different than paying compensation to people and businesses directly damaged by the spill.

The process will begin with public meetings all over the region.

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Headclunker 02.21.11 at 1:55 pm

Zee#77,

Thanks for the good news. I do not live there anymore but I have family and friends there. I hate what BP did. They can get rigs out there to pump oil, they can get rigs out there to remediate their mess.

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HP Boston 02.21.11 at 3:09 pm

Ah Zee there is no end to the horrors men are responsible for, not end!

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HP Boston 02.21.11 at 3:15 pm

NO end :roll:

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Headclunker 02.21.11 at 4:56 pm

Revised FECK Complaint Update
http://pumapac.org/forums/feck-obama-team/comment-page-4/#comment-469206

Suggestions and comments welcome. We still have 1,587 contributors over the limit. Is anyone interested in a letter writing project to contact these donors to verify these donations? 2012 is coming.

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DancesWithPumas 02.21.11 at 5:19 pm

I don’t undertsand why a donor would respond to a request for validation from someone they don’t know.
Shouldn’t that be part of FEC’s investigation?

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Headclunker 02.21.11 at 8:31 pm

Dances,

The donor is as subject to fines and penalties for making over limit donations.:

If Your Contributions Exceed the Biennial Limit

Exceeding the biennial limit is a violation of federal law. An individual who exceeds the limit faces a potential penalty equal to the amount of the contributions involved (or up to twice this amount in the case of a knowing and willful violation). 4

If you inadvertently exceed the biennial limit, the Commission advises that you immediately take one or more of the steps listed below. Viewing such actions as mitigating circumstances, the Commission may decrease any potential civil money penalty.
http://www.fec.gov/pages/brochures/biennial.shtml#If_Your

So the donor is actually required to either request a refund or rettribute the donation to another campaign. Actually, we would be doing people a favor letting them know they are in a bad position. Maybe some would ask for refunds.

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Headclunker 02.21.11 at 9:29 pm

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PumaRhythm 02.21.11 at 10:05 pm

Hiya Murphy, Dances and Pumas!

Okay..I’m going to suspend my boycott of MSNBC to watch Pissy Matthews documentary about Bill Clinton..”President to the World”. !0pm – !0:30pm ES….it’s on now.

then it’s bck to the cooking channel..

(((Pumas)))

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PumaRhythm 02.21.11 at 10:06 pm

10pm – 1030pm

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DancesWithPumas 02.21.11 at 10:41 pm

HC
Okay, but how does that pull the curtain on Teh OFraud?
and wouldnt most people have those donations re-directed toward his next campaign?
I’m willing to donate toward postage.
Thanks to you and the FECK Obama for your work.

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DancesWithPumas 02.21.11 at 10:50 pm

As far as LegTingles Matthews goes… as Hillaryis44 says, he’s trying to redeem himself before he goes the way of ubermann. He can kiss my ass.

Presidents’ Day in Hell:
http://www.hillaryis44.org/2011/02/21/presidents-day-in-hell/

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Headclunker 02.21.11 at 11:16 pm

Dances #87

There are several potential benefits.

1. Disgruntled supporters can ask for refunds.
2. Bogus records could get identified to the FEC.
3. People may think twice about donating to a campaign with funny money.
4. It may keep some fool from getting their silly self fined by the FEC.

One guy whose wife made a donation to Obama actually wrote to the FEC and demanded that his name be taken off the donation. It is part of the campaign finance records.

Sometimes you have to shake the tree to see what falls out.

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PumaRhythm 02.21.11 at 11:24 pm

#88 Dances

Yup Dances..I thought that woman hating freak was up to sumthin..
as for the “kiss my ass”…lets make that a double!! :grin:

going over to Big Pink now..thanks for the link!

Feck Team Rocks!!

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Headclunker 02.21.11 at 11:24 pm

Hopefully I will be spared the armpit hairs, but I watch some of Tingleplops documentary to see Bill and Hillary. The only thing that could redeem Goofball would be if he supported a primary challenge from Hillary for 2012.

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PumaRhythm 02.22.11 at 12:23 am

#91 Headclunker

LOL..Headclunker….I think thats what scares me the most..
{{{Armpit}}} {{{{Hairs}}}} in nostrils!! :shock:

my only hope is that no one from Big Pink reads my post @85..
creeping off to bed now to hide under covers…probably will have nightmares of Big Pink chasing me with meat clever and a five pound bag of armpit hairs :shock:

I’m sorry Big Pink..it won’t happen again! :smile:

Gnight Pumas

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PumaRhythm 02.22.11 at 12:52 am

btw…did I mention that I’m allergic to Mohair..
jus sayin.
:smile:

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PumaRhythm 02.22.11 at 2:26 am

#93 you know what…scratch that last post..it could be taken a couple of different ways..don’t want that..it’s not me.

anyway..glad I thought about it before i went to sleep.

night (((Pumas)))

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BigCatLover 02.22.11 at 6:52 am

I watched the President of the World special and it was great seeing all the video of Bill and all his screaming fans around the world. Chris Matthews took two swipes at Bill – the Fairytale remark during the campaign and that Bill was BITTER and angry that the voters chose Obama over Hillary. Still repeating the same old lies. Even with the usual Obama fluffing garbage, Bill shines in this show.

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BigCatLover 02.22.11 at 6:53 am

PumaRhythm 02.22.11 at 12:52 am

btw…did I mention that I’m allergic to Mohair..
jus sayin.
*****************
I thought that was hilarious. I like plays on words.

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theamericanway 02.22.11 at 9:28 am

Headclunker, please check email/subject line “Index 137603″

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CJK2 02.22.11 at 2:13 pm

http://www.foxnews.com/

“Americans Scott and Jean Adam of California…and Phyllis Macay and Bob Riggle of Washington state…shot and killed by Somali pirates after their yacht was hijacked off the coast of Oman.”…

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Delle 02.22.11 at 4:38 pm

Harry Reid has found a new issue to worry about. He thinks it is ‘time to outlaw prostitution’:

http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2011/feb/22/reid-vs-brothel-industry/

It’s bad for business, or so he says.

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HP Boston 02.22.11 at 5:09 pm

CJK2
It is time to wipe Somalie off the face of the earth! Set the country out to sea and shoot the shit out of them. We may have to wait in line for arms, seems billions of war weapons are a hot comodity theses days, Sweden is rolling in orders and money from arms!

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stoney42 02.22.11 at 5:12 pm

I can hardly watch the news anymore. Killings, riots, protests, earthquakes. Ugh!

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goofsmom 02.22.11 at 5:17 pm

Stoney42,

#101 – Me too. It is all upsetting and heartbreaking. Luckily I don’t watch the news. I get all my news from the internet and I can hardly stand that either. :sad:

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Headclunker 02.22.11 at 5:23 pm

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goofsmom 02.22.11 at 6:20 pm

Thanks Headclunker for #103.

-20 is a bit of good news.

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PumaRhythm 02.22.11 at 6:51 pm

#96 BigCatLover

Thx BCL…I was having a little fun with Big Pinks ‘fatwa’ post…
it had me LMAO…I love Big Pink!

I enjoyed watching Big Dawg and Hillary last night..at the same..it was hard to stomach that slimeball CM in the same room with Bill Clinton.
For the record Tingles…we will NEVER FORGET!!

**********************************************************************

Delle 02.22.11 at 4:38 pm

Harry Reid has found a new issue to worry about. He thinks it is ‘time to outlaw prostitution’:
***************

LOL…Mr.Reid..
in that spirit…I hope that you and your fellow pricks on Capital Hill will all be stepping down soon..
and let us not forget the superdelgates that sold their votes in ’08 and the MSM that sold their souls ect..ect..ect.
Yep..we know where the real..House of the Rising Sun is..and it aint New Awlins! :evil:

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BigCatLover 02.22.11 at 6:59 pm

deadenders, on February 22, 2011 at 5:50 PM said:
PHOENIX – A jury in Phoenix has convicted a 50-year-old Iraqi immigrant of second-degree murder for running over and killing his daughter in a case prosecutors called an `honor killing.’

Faleh Hassan Almaleki also was convicted Tuesday of aggravated assault for injuries suffered by the mother of his daughter’s boyfriend during the October 2009 incident in a suburban Phoenix parking lot.

Prosecutors told jurors during the trial that he mowed down 20-year-old Noor Almaleki with his Jeep Cherokee because she had brought the family dishonor by becoming too Westernized. He wanted Noor Almaleki to act like a traditional Iraq woman but she refused an arranged marriage, went to college and had a boyfriend.

Defense lawyers called Noor’s death and Amal Khalaf’s injury an accident. They say he only wanted to spit on the older woman.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/02/22/jury-convicts-iraqi-immigrant-honor-killing/#ixzz1EjNJsN5i

deadenders, on February 22, 2011 at 5:50 PM said:
Second degree?

deadenders, on February 22, 2011 at 6:21 PM said:
Probation and time served?

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PumaRhythm 02.22.11 at 6:59 pm

oh and we can add O’minustwenty..to that above post!!!

-20…loving it!!!

bbl Pumas….gotta chicken in the oven that needs side dishes.. :smile:

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PumaRhythm 02.22.11 at 7:03 pm

sorry ..meant to say add O’minustwenty to bottom of post # 105.

okay..gotta run.

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goofsmom 02.22.11 at 8:55 pm

Looks like Emmanuel will win Mayors race…

http://elections.chicagotribune.com/results/

http://www.chicagoelections.com/race_results.php?id=22

Mayor
2083 out of 2570 precincts (81.05 %)

RAHM EMANUEL 262,171 54.87 %
MIGUEL DEL VALLE 44,776 9.37 %
CAROL MOSELEY BRAUN 41,713 8.73 %
GERY J. CHICO 117,312 24.55 %
PATRICIA VAN PELT WATKINS 7,623 1.60 %
WILLIAM WALLS, III 4,238 0.89 %

If Emanuel keeps higher than 50% of the vote, then there would not be a run off

—–
Note: both of these sites do not have auto refresh, you have to keep refreshing the screens to get latest data.

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goofsmom 02.22.11 at 8:56 pm

Darn it… sorry all, I had it spaced out and forgot that you couldn’t do it that way in word press.

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goofsmom 02.22.11 at 9:00 pm

Trying it again…

Mayor
2083 out of 2570 precincts (81.05 %)

RAHM EMANUEL…………262,171…..54.87 %
MIGUEL DEL VALLE………44,776……9.37 %
CAROL MOSELEY BRAUN……41,713……8.73 %
GERY J. CHICO………..117,312…..24.55 %
PATRICIA VAN PELT WATKINS 7,623……1.60 %
WILLIAM WALLS, III……..4,238……0.89 %

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honora 02.22.11 at 9:00 pm

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honora 02.22.11 at 9:01 pm

More than I bargained for, but it seems to work. :wink:

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goofsmom 02.22.11 at 9:02 pm

honora,

Thanks, those are very cute cupcakes. :grin:

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goofsmom 02.22.11 at 9:23 pm

MSM is calling it… Rahm Emanuel elected mayor of Chicago..

Anyone surprised???

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goofsmom 02.22.11 at 9:30 pm

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gordana 02.22.11 at 11:26 pm

goofsmom #115

I would be curious to know how much Soros paid for this one!

just sayin!

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goofsmom 02.22.11 at 11:36 pm

gordana,

#117 – LOL… probably a lot less than for BO. :lol:

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PumaRhythm 02.23.11 at 1:26 am

Yummm!! Thx Honora for the Puma cupcakes!

taking a couple and scooting back over to Utube..where I found season 4 (final season) of ‘Larkrise to Candleford’..yaaaay!!
Netflix doesnt even have it yet…seas.4 that is.

Yup Goofsmom..RomE returning to Chicago reminds me of something slimey returning to the pond it crawled out of…FauxDem headquarters.
Thk u for the links goofsmom.

Gnight (((Pumas)))

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Zee 02.23.11 at 9:36 am

BCL … I saw that 2nd degree murder.

Since when is stalking your daughter (or any woman) and then killing her for “honor” second degree and unpremeditated??

Lest we forget, here is a very detailed account of Noor’s murder. She had texted a friend, scared witless at having bumped into her dad at the welfare office. She and the woman she was there to help were hiding from him when out of nowhere, he mowed into them with his car. Noor had texted that she’d never known anyone “so…evil” as her dad.

Her dad (after his capture) tried to explain honor killings to the detectives, asking them what would they do to control their daughters. “Not run them down with a car” one answered. The dad then explained it was saving the rest of his family, saying if one’s house was on fire, wouldn’t they try to put it out? He likened Noor to a “small fire that had to be extinguished.”

Shine on, Noor.

http://www.browardpalmbeach.com/2010-04-01/news/faleh-almaleki-honor-killed-his-daughter-for-disgracing-him/

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Zee 02.23.11 at 1:07 pm

More glum news. Dolphin deaths up in the Gulf:

http://www.newser.com/story/112669/dead-dolphins-washing-up-along-gulf-shore.html

I’m wondering if there are any Earth Day events planned to spotlight the plight of the Gulf?

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Headclunker 02.24.11 at 6:53 am

It makes me wonder about the price of gas.

Just what role is the Evil Oil Empire playing in the middle east?

The Repuglicans are calling for deep water drilling. But you will hear nothing in the MSM about the Empire.

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CJK2 02.24.11 at 1:59 pm

http://rabblerouserruminations.blogspot.com/2011/02/what-should-we-make-of-obamas-army-of.html

Perhaps the same kind of “army” that was responsible for caucus fraud and voter intimidation in ’08? Or, even worse?

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theamericanway 02.24.11 at 3:26 pm

Headclunker, Table 1 is ready.

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Notyoursweetie 02.24.11 at 4:42 pm

126

Headclunker 02.24.11 at 8:47 pm

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goofsmom 02.24.11 at 10:22 pm

For everyone following up on Ms. Etta James.

Latest news story…

Ailing singer Etta James’ care under scrutiny

06:10 PM PST on Thursday, February 24, 2011

By RICHARD K. DE ATLEY
The Press-Enterprise

Ailing blues singer Etta James could “be in very serious danger” while under the care of a $20,000-a-month live-in physician, an attorney for one of James’s sons said Thursday during court action over control of her $1 million-plus in assets.

Attorney James E. Deering Jr., representing Donto James, said a confidential investigators report was “the worst” such assessment regarding a physician’s treatment that he had ever seen as a probate attorney.

James, 72, best known for her signature vocals on songs such as “At Last” and “Tell Mama” is a resident of the Woodcrest area of Riverside.
—— snip

http://www.pe.com/localnews/inland/stories/PE_News_Local_D_james25.153aa6d.html

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Delle 02.25.11 at 4:11 am

CJK2 #123 Thanks for posting that.

FTA – ‘Is this scaring the shit out of anyone else but me?’

It sure is scaring me too!

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Delle 02.25.11 at 2:16 pm

I have a question today to anyone who choses to answer it.
I suppose my question should be ‘where is everyone?’ but that’s not it. My question is much more serious.
And it is merely a question. I am not begging an argument nor a debate. Just an opinion.
I think we all -most of us – agree that Islam sucks. The Islamic philosopy is devasting to women, gays and non-muslims. And yet, the progressive and women’s organizations continue to support their cause.
Christopher Logan is a NY blogger who keeps tract of the Islamic invasion into our local communities. He is now warning us about a new Muslim Peace Coalition which plans to hold a rally in NYC on April 9th:
http://loganswarning.com/2011/02/23/muslim-peace-coalition-to-hold-codepink-endorsed-anti-islamophobia-rally/
And so my question – why would the women’s league or code pink sponser such a rally? Are they not aware of the danger of Sharia law? Do they have some other intent?
I can not understand why the left leaning groups are willing to associate themselves wit the radical islamics. That’s why I am asking you.
Thanks.

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HP Boston 02.25.11 at 2:39 pm

Delle,
I think IMO the union busting and the Islam lovefest is all a plan to start a war….right here in river city! We are overflowing with factions eager to keep turmoil simmering to a full boil. Election 2012……..
Islam sucks!

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HP Boston 02.25.11 at 2:43 pm

And Pumas I have a new desktop, a Dell…my old one crashed days ago…and so it goes. Windows 7…my current learning curve.

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invalidresponse 02.25.11 at 2:55 pm

Pulling out the phone book, looking for a sewing store, so perhaps I could go buy a new thread……

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HP Boston 02.25.11 at 3:20 pm

invalidresponse

Get cotton in wide white, heavy, on a spool……

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invalidresponse 02.25.11 at 3:25 pm

??? OH….K ????? :LOL:

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invalidresponse 02.25.11 at 3:26 pm

:lol:

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invalidresponse 02.25.11 at 3:26 pm

oh good the reattempt worked.. I thought I broke my smilies…. (wiping brow)

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HP Boston 02.25.11 at 3:36 pm

Whew :roll:

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HP Boston 02.25.11 at 3:40 pm

What to do, what to do?? HC we are all shell shocked from the sheer magnitude of shit hitting us from all sides!!!
:evil: :devil: :evil:

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invalidresponse 02.25.11 at 3:42 pm

¡¡pɐq ʎןןɐǝɹ ʎןןɐǝɹ ǝq pןnoʍ uǝʞoɹq sǝıןıɯs ɹnoʎ ƃuıʌɐɥ ¡¡ǝɯ pǝɹɐɔs ʇı ¡¡ʎןʇɔɐxǝ

ok, back to thread shopping now

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Delle 02.25.11 at 3:59 pm

HP #131

You can’t go wrong with a Dell. :-)

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HP Boston 02.25.11 at 4:05 pm

YUP but I am struggling with a new format, ugh!

BUT poor Invalid is upside down and backwards!! So I won’t complain, seeing her that way is most frightful…

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DancesWithPumas 02.25.11 at 4:24 pm

This is how it works…

A baseball wife emerges from the dugout

http://www.cnn.com/2011/LIVING/02/25/harold.dorothy.seymour.baseball/index.html?hpt=C2#

freaking fragile male babies’ egos. What a charade they’ve been allowed to get awya with all these centuries…
the gig is up.

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HP Boston 02.25.11 at 5:05 pm

Thanks Dances, that was a great look at what is wrong with men and baseball! Women have to know how to really, really contol the balls!

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Headclunker 02.25.11 at 7:54 pm

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DancesWithPumas 02.25.11 at 10:01 pm

HP
Men taking credit, or not giving credit to their wives, or other women, isnt limited to men in any one field of endeavor…
but you already know that.

A baseball wife emerges from the dugout
http://www.cnn.com/2011/LIVING/02/25/harold.dorothy.seymour.baseball/index.html?hpt=C2#

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DancesWithPumas 02.25.11 at 10:02 pm

Warning Against Wars Like Iraq and Afghanistan
By THOM SHANKER 8:36 PM ET
Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates said that anyone who advises a president to send a large U.S. army to change a third-world regime “should have his head examined.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/26/world/26gates.html?hp

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HP Boston 02.26.11 at 9:20 am

Morning Pumas, we have sunshine this day for a change.
The cat and I jumped in fright last night at a very loud crash. Big tree blew down in the wind and snow, landed over the back fence. Good thing it is away from my house and it is the neighbors fence and tree. Big empty space away from their house too. I have no strength to clean up that mess!

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Headclunker 02.26.11 at 9:27 am

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BigCatLover 02.26.11 at 10:34 am

Delle
And so my question – why would the women’s league or code pink sponser such a rally? Are they not aware of the danger of Sharia law? Do they have some other intent?
I can not understand why the left leaning groups are willing to associate themselves wit the radical islamics. That’s why I am asking you.
Thanks.
********************************
Wondering about some of these questions myself. What’s up with these strange alliances. The only thing I’ve come up with is that partisanship has gotten so strong now, that logical thinking has gone by the wayside and instead we get these strange alliances. Since the far right invaded Muslim countries and warned constantly against Muslim terrorism, the far left has to jump to their defense and align with them. A pox on both these partisan houses.

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Headclunker 02.26.11 at 11:24 am

What BCL said!

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DancesWithPumas 02.26.11 at 11:47 am

HP
I have no strength to clean up that mess!
———————
No need for energy… just call upon the PumaPAC TrisDebris Posse. ;-)

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DancesWithPumas 02.26.11 at 11:48 am

Islam sucks.

and so does Twisty.

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DancesWithPumas 02.26.11 at 3:24 pm

Requiem for Merlin Stone
by Zsuzsanna Budapest on Friday, February 25, 2011 at 4:50pm.

Merlin Stone is dead.
She passed away on the 25th of February 011 in Daytona Beach after a long painful illness.

Lenny her life partner called me just minutes ago. I asked about what killed her,and the answer was a complications from dementia. Apparently she fell often and broke her bones. She had round the clock nursing, and Lenny stayed with her till the end. Her daughters came also, but they were already gone, after the cremation and a very small memorial. I think we should have a huge global memorial to Merlin. She was the first one who gave us back our historical heritage as women. Her research was diligent, “When God was a Woman” changed my life.” Ancient Mirrors of Womanhood,”gave us a global view how interconnected our Goddess stories are.

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Zee 02.26.11 at 6:27 pm

ohhhhhhh. :(

thanks for the news, dances.

We owe Merlin Stone so much. I do remember reading When God was a Woman.

RIP, Merlin, and shine on.

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freddiebrown 02.26.11 at 7:03 pm

Nothing bright, promising ,cheery or exciting happening – politico news is such a drag down. I’m thinking to watch the Academy awards for some mindless preoccupation tomorrow.

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Zee 02.26.11 at 7:10 pm

@dances….twisty??

why twisty? the trans debate?

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Zee 02.26.11 at 7:13 pm

@HP…whew…dang. Every wind storm my prayer is my tree doesn’t come down. The snow has already brought two sections of fence down. :/ sigh

@freddie….me too….MINDLESS red carpet zone-out is my plan tomorrow. Even tho I missed all the movies. I can at least enjoy the dresses!

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DancesWithPumas 02.26.11 at 11:01 pm

Zee 02.26.11 at 7:10 pm
@dances….twisty??
why twisty? the trans debate?
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The trans debate was interesting and educational.
It’s more about her position, aside from accusing women of denying trannies’ humanity (pure bullshit… empahsis on “bull”), and repeating her F2M assistant’s critique of the “haters” (more bullshit) meaning the women, being morons. The so-called “haters” are women who don’t consider men, who have reconfigured their genitals, as women. Twisty is taking the male-sans-penis’ side, and I think that sucks.

Think about it, women have campaigned, marched, protested for every freaking disenfranchised group under the sun, and none of those groups, as groups, have returned the favor. Now here comes the male-sans-penis people insisting on/demanding being defined as women and included in women only space.
Yet another ‘special needs’ group that wants women to relax their boundaries and put their own positions aside in order to accommodate yet another group like the good little womenz we are required to be. They are unique as a whole and I can’t understand why they want to hook up with women (don’t get me started on referring to us as “cis woman”) instead of participating in their own movement?
Fucking male-sans-penis leeches.

Twisty sucks…
aside from being an elitist / classist.

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Headclunker 02.27.11 at 12:31 am

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HP Boston 02.27.11 at 10:56 am

Zee 02.26.11 at 7:13 pm

@HP…whew…dang. Every wind storm my prayer is my tree doesn’t come down. The snow has already brought two sections of fence down. :/ sigh

————————–
Well no worries here, as I said neighbors fence and tree.
They take care of thier propetry, I have not a tree near the fence,only my Lilacs, mmmm can’t wait to see and smell them!
Sorry you have a tree in danger Zee, damned expensive for tree care/removal. Also a fence is a great expense, I own one side to the back and split the cost with my neigbor on the other,my cute plow guy!
Damn snowing again today, must stop soon, going to take my grandson to the movies and lunch. He even took a shower, his Mom did not have to tell him!

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HP Boston 02.27.11 at 10:58 am

:lol: :wink: :roll: :lol:

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HP Boston 02.27.11 at 11:10 am

Hey I can type with my mouse, I have on screen keyboard!Way cool!
Also it does prompt a suggested word you’re starting to type. I am having fun with this new computer……. :lol:

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BigCatLover 02.27.11 at 12:59 pm

HP
wow, what kind of new computer did you get? You really like typing on the screen, I haven’t seen that done in person yet. I wonder if my lousy typing would get better with that kind of a keyboard.

There is a rightwing attack going on over at Hillaryis44. There is a group of 3 or 4 who scream that they hate the left and that the union workers in Wisc. should be shot (just a little exaggeration). It’s almost as if they email each other to all come on the blog at the same time and vigorously agree with each other’s posts. They’re really ranting this morning. I commmented that we need some middle ground discussion this morning and you can’t be a Hillary supporter and hate the left, so they are probably attacking me right now. I’m going back to see.

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Zee 02.27.11 at 2:46 pm

Thanks for the explanation, dances. Not that I’m crystal clear on it, but only because so many boundaries are blurred. I was baffled beyond when she was talking about a male assistant after saying men were banned. I was like, wha..? Overload!

lmfao, tho, on your “don’t get me started on referring to us as ‘cis woman’ ”

If I infer correctly, you don’t hold with that. :)

Me, either. I can relate with the disorientation/discomfort/alienation that must occur with differently gendered people confronting a hetero-normative
(is that a word?) world, but I don’t get the cis thing.

I can even relate to trying to broaden our daily language…the first children’s novel I wrote was set in the future and I “evolved” the language so that men and women had become heman and sheman.

Well….I tried. :oops: But I still don’t get the “cis” thing.

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Zee 02.27.11 at 2:57 pm

Hey HP….yeah, more snow…I got everything cleared and took advil for my hands, which were no happy campers afterwards, but if the entire winter had been this easy I wouldn’t even have whined.

My neighbors are… let’s just say people who don’t share costs for fences. So, I replaced two sides of my fencing already all by myself, and now have two sections of old fence down due to snow. It will not be pretty come spring when I explain they’re illegally encroaching on my property…. especially since they actually *pushed* the fence down clearing their drive.

Congrats on the new computer! I want one of those tablet things with touch-screen keyboards. It’s on the list….at the end of a long list! :)

I was going thru the website Politifact, which has a fairly good track record of calling people, including Zero, on truths, half-truths, and flat out falsehoods, but as I went back and back it was infuriating to see their calls during the 2008 primary. They made a few good calls, but even for them, bent over backwards for Zero over Hillary. At least they did call his lying ass for claiming he didn’t fundraise in Florida.

ok….calm… it’s Oscar night. I won’t know the films but love the dresses….

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DancesWithPumas 02.27.11 at 3:58 pm

Zee 02.27.11 at 2:46 pm
1-Thanks for the explanation, dances. Not that I’m crystal clear on it, but only because so many boundaries are blurred. I was baffled beyond when she was talking about a male assistant after saying men were banned. I was like, wha..? Overload!

2-lmfao, tho, on your “don’t get me started on referring to us as ‘cis woman’ ”

3-If I infer correctly, you don’t hold with that.
4-Me, either. I can relate with the disorientation/discomfort/alienation that must occur with differently gendered people confronting a hetero-normative
(is that a word?) it is now! world, but I don’t get the cis thing.

4-I can even relate to trying to broaden our daily language…the first children’s novel I wrote was set in the future and I “evolved” the language so that men and women had become heman and sheman.

Well….I tried. But I still don’t get the “cis” thing.
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1- w4f = her male assistant. Female traitor in exchange for male privilege.
2- Cis – the rearranged-genitals males want to call women ‘cis-women’ in order to distnguish between male-reconfigured-genitals males and women. They want to be recognized as women, while simultaneously making the distinction by re-labeling women as ‘cis-women’. Typical males.

Agree with the predjudices against differently gendered… its the same kind gays and lesbians and women in general deal with.
That’s teh reason trannies aligned with the lgbt movement.

The twisty’s positionseems hypocritical when she argues that gender is a social costruct that supports the patriarchy yet whe defends as ‘women’ reconfigured-genitalia-males who have physically transitioned (whatever the fuck that means aside from the dick removal part) from male to female gender.
I don’t understand how she can argue against gender assignment while supporting gender reassignment, most especially when reassignment reinforces stereotypical gender roles.

I used to support transgendered… now, after seeing them battle women at “I Blame the Patriarchy Because I’m Not Willing to Undermine the Patriarchy”, they’re on their own.
Theyre men, they’ll survive.

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Headclunker 02.27.11 at 10:44 pm

Why isn’t Scott Walkers plan to restrict collective bargaining of any American Citizen a violation of freedom of Assembly?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_assembly

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DancesWithPumas 02.27.11 at 11:47 pm

The Media Equation
Not Abuse But Insults Get Sheen Sidelined
By DAVID CARR
Allegations of violence against women failed to get Charlie Sheen off the air, but insulting his boss has.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/28/business/media/28carr.html?hp

Charlie Sheen should be in jail or a mental health facility

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CJK2 02.28.11 at 12:23 am

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703408604576164290717724956.html

Excellent article explaining the fiscally sound reasons behind the WI budget-repair bill’s limiting collective bargaining to matters of wages, and excluding matters of benefits. Good information.

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Delle 02.28.11 at 5:32 am

#167 – I don’t believe the protesters are being denied their freedom of assembly. The crowds have been ‘assembling’ in the streets and the capitol building for more than a week now. Nobody tried to stop them.

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BigCatLover 02.28.11 at 9:25 am

DWP
Charlie Sheen should be in jail or a mental health facility
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Instead he’s all over tv railing, including the Today Show. He looks terrible and needs the hook.

By the way, thanks for popping over to Big Pink and dropping the tea party is astroturfed bomb. The rightwingers went ballistic. They need a wakeup call from time to time. They are not only screaming insults against the Wisc. state senators who are on the lam and the protestors, but also the police officers that refused to remove them and the doctors that supposedly signed sick leave slips for the protestors. Tells me that the protests have been very effective and the rightwingers are frustrated beyond belief that they are not getting the upper hand there.

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CJK2 02.28.11 at 1:00 pm

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/02/28/obama-governors-public-employees-vilified/

This, plus BO’s previous remarks about the WI budget-repair bill, tells me that the protests are all about getting the Obamacrats (particularly BO) re-elected in 2012. Quite simply, the unions (e.g., the funding/voting arm of the Obamacrats) don’t want to give up their captive market for automatic dues/membership. In WI, the budget-repair bill would allow individual public employees to choose for themselves whether or not to join the union, rather than requiring the state to automatically deduct union dues from each paycheck as is done now. As is done now, those dues automatically go to the union’s coffers where members have virtually no say as to how those funds are spent (and they are typically spent primarily on Obamacrat candidates/campaigns). Also, under the budget-repair bill, the union could still use collective bargaining for matters of wages (with cap tied to the Consumer Price Index), but collective bargaining would be limited in matters of benefits. The public employee contribution to pension would be 5.8 percent; the public employee contribution to health would be 12 percent; both figures being at or below the national average. Currently, WI public employees apparently do not contribute to either their pension or health benefits, which are substantial. The budget-repair bill changes are actually quite modest. WI public employees appear to be among the best paid, with some of the best benefits in the nation. Please read the WSJ article for accurate facts/figures about just how good those public employees have it compared to most in the private sector. My question: Why should taxpayers, whose hard-earned tax dollars are used to fund every public employee’s salary at all levels of government, be required to fund the re-election of Obamacrats/BO in 2012 via forced union membership/dues payment?

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703408604576164290717724956.html

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CJK2 02.28.11 at 1:10 pm

P.S. Federal employees under BO’s purview have little to no collective bargaining powers. So, his call for public employees’ not to have rights “stripped” rings extremely hypocritical, plus makes it clear that he doesn’t really understand the actual content of the WI budget-repair bill (or is deliberately choosing to ignore it in order to save Obamacrat “seats”–including his own–in 2012). Why is he meddling in a specific state’s budget matters? That would appear to be in a violation of the Constitution’s separation of executive, legislative and judicial powers, as well as a violation of Article IV, Section 4, guaranteeing every state in the union a “republican” (i.e, “representative”) form of government. Given the deliberate disinformation being spread, the inflammatory (and frankly uncivil) rhetoric being used unchecked in this matter, for BO to comment at all seems tantamount to throwing gasoline on a fire. Or, perhaps his call for more civil public discourse didn’t apply to Obamacrats?

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CJK2 02.28.11 at 1:14 pm

P.P.S. My comments relate to public employee unions, not to private employee unions. There are important distinctions between the two, which are being blurred by the 24/7 disinformation being deliberately spread by the Obamacrats and BO.

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BigCatLover 02.28.11 at 4:45 pm

Reform union leadership and get them out of campaign contributions along with the lobbyists and the corporations, but don’t take all the power away from the union members. Here is another take on the financing of Wisconsin public pensions from Forbes:

The Wisconsin Lie Exposed-Taxpayers Actually Contribute Nothing To Public Employee Pensions by Rick Ungar
http://blogs.forbes.com/rickungar/2011/02/25/the-wisconsin-lie-exposed-taxpayers-actually-contribute-nothing-to-public-employee-pensions/

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CJK2 02.28.11 at 5:17 pm

The WI proposed budget-repair bill does not take all the power away from the union members. Instead, it actually empowers workers by allowing public employees to choose whether or not to join the union and pay union dues, rather than being required to join and pay dues in order to just have a job, as is now the case. The proposed budget-repair bill says union members can still collectively bargain for wages (with a cap tied to the Consumer Price Index), but not for what amounts to extravagant benefits hikes. Apparently, the public employees in WI already have some of the nation’s best pay and benefits, certainly better than most available in the private sector. Though union leaders claim they will acquiesce to the WI proposed budget-repair bill’s modest employee contributions to pension and health benefits (about 5.8 percent and 12 percent respectively, both at or well below the national average), instead, the union leaders are apparently trying to use the 14 missing Dem State Senators’ protracted absence to ram through extravagant benefits hikes and even some pay hikes, before the proposed bill comes to a vote. So long as there is a symbiotic relationship between the public employee union leadership and the Obamacrats, there’s virtually no way to reform the leadership and get them out of campaign contributions. The public employee union leaders’ relationships with the Obamacrats clearly are all ultimately forged on the backs of everyday working, taxpaying Americans, via a plethora of taxes at every government level, and/or via forced union membership/dues collection.

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turndownobama 02.28.11 at 7:26 pm

A site by the WI pro-labor demonstrators:
http://www.defendwisconsin.org/

As for Ungar’s article at Forbes, he added one Update that clarified the funding, and he and others have been adding more good information in the Comments.

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Headclunker 02.28.11 at 8:03 pm

CJK2,

It seems conservatives want to protect the constitution unless it says something inconvenient. The stuff about unions for private and public workers is a bunch of rationalization and justification. It is either a fundamental right for people, or not. And if their objectives are really less government and the fundamentals of the constitution, they would keep their laws off of ALL workers collective bargaining powers.

Just like the BS about abortion. They want to make laws about peoples reproduction systems if it gets them the evangelical vote. Even though those laws are about as invasive as it gets. I see nothing but hypocrisy.

Face it. Conservatives want to enforce all parts of the constitution that allows them to be as greedy as they can be. The inconvenient parts are overlooked.

Scott Walker is a puppet for the billionaire boise.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/02/26/us-usa-wisconsin-koch-idUSTRE71P28W20110226

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goofsmom 02.28.11 at 10:02 pm

Dances,

#168 – “Charlie Sheen should be in jail or a mental health facility”

IMHO, he should be in jail. How long can his abuse against women continue to be tolerated.

I did with him, what I did with Gibson. Took all the movies I had on DVD that he starred in to the Pawnshop and cashed them in. I will not have abusers in my house even if it is only on DVD. Yeech! :evil: :twisted:

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Zee 02.28.11 at 11:22 pm

goofs, good call!

How goes it…think of you every night…

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lorac 03.01.11 at 1:37 am

BCL, people on Big Pink aren’t republicans. Political beliefs are on a continuum, and many people are in the middle, despite how the two parties try to make it black and white.

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HP Boston 03.01.11 at 12:22 pm

So Goofs how much did the pawnshop charge you to get rid of that verMEN? Now you do know they did you a huge favor!!

:lol: :lol: :shock:

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Headclunker 03.01.11 at 7:29 pm

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goofsmom 03.01.11 at 8:17 pm

Zee,

#180 – Hanging in there… still have my fingers crossed on that job you interviewed for. :)

HP Boston,

#182 – LOL… :lol: :lol: They actually paid me $1 a vid!! :shock: Tee hee hee.

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Headclunker 03.01.11 at 9:46 pm

More odd behavior from the smoking narcissist in the Whitehouse:

http://www.politicsdaily.com/2011/02/28/obamas-workout-white-house-democrats-as-fitness-fanatics/?icid=main%7Chtmlws-main-n%7Cdl5%7Csec1_lnk1%7C204168

….So forgive me, if I indulge in a little nostalgia for Bill Clinton, who never pressed White House staffers to do anything more strenuous than join him for a game of hearts. Of course, America had a balanced budget back in the Clinton years. So maybe there is a mysterious connection between bloated budgets and buff presidents.

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DancesWithPumas 03.01.11 at 11:51 pm

Oh my goodness!!
Annie Girardot, Versatile French Actress, Dies at 79

damn…

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freddiebrown 03.01.11 at 11:59 pm

Dances – I’ve been wanting to ask you for a long time, do you get the daily world obituaries or you just have an interest in who is famous(female) that just died?
Not being funny… but each time I see your post about someone dead, it reminds me of my own mortality. What’s with your interest in the recently died?

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DancesWithPumas 03.02.11 at 12:14 am

Freddie…
ummm… the nytimes obits were always part of my daily reading, even after I stopped doing anything more than glancing at the ny times’ headlines (c.2008).

It’s still part of my routine… I usually read them just before I shut down my computer. There are so many people, esp women, who have shaped our culture and made significant contributions that I’ve never heard of until they die. There are also those who were part of the background of my growing up… contemporaries, that I admired.
Other than that, I do not really know exactly what my interest in the obits is.

I was shocked by the death of Annie Girardot because I watched a movie of hers last year that stayed with me for a long time (The Piano Teacher).

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freddiebrown 03.02.11 at 2:06 am

Dances – O I C…well, its good that we know the history of some of the ones
you mentioned – though I can’t say I know any of them.
I have to check out the Piano Teacher – getting tired of testosterone Friday night movie nights. I really like strong women movies – eg Queens of England etc. Recently saw Eat Pray Love or whatever by Julia Roberts (only because it was the inflight movie)and thought it was so lame.

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turndownobama 03.02.11 at 2:22 am

Did any MSM or Fox cover this, the firemen and police doing a big march around the statehouse? A blogger says the media was there and ignored it.

theawl.com/2011/03/from-the-capitol-dome-media-malpractice-in-madison

And, did they cover the cop who went into the statehouse Fri or Sat with a bullhorn and said they were refusing to evict the protestors, would join them instead?

boingboing.net/2011/02/26/wisconsin-cops-for-t.html

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Zee 03.02.11 at 10:34 am

That is a very interesting reason to read the obits, dances.

Here’s another Hollywood legend who died this week:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110301/ap_on_en_mo/us_obit_jane_russell

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Zee 03.02.11 at 10:37 am

Joseph Cannon has a must-read post up over at cannonfire.

He’s laying out evidence that Axelrove used persona software to infiltrate the blogosphere during the primary. Yeah, I know that will come as no big shock, but the topic is in the news again, and this time as a “rightwing” dirty trick.

Which may well be the case, given that Zerobama is a corporate puppet.

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DancesWithPumas 03.02.11 at 10:54 am

Zee 03.02.11 at 10:37 am
Joseph Cannon has a must-read post up over at cannonfire.
————–
http://www.cannonfire.blogspot.com/

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Zee 03.02.11 at 12:07 pm

Thanks, dances…I never know if it’s cool to link to him or not…

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Zee 03.02.11 at 12:23 pm

Here’s a blast to the past, one of Cannon’s finest, against the Obots:

http://cannonfire.blogspot.com/2008/07/obots-dare-to-lecture-us-on-unity.html

(warning: may very likely trigger 08 primary trauma)

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Zee 03.02.11 at 2:12 pm

Hey, a counterpoint to stress and bad news….it’s day 2 of women’s history month and here’s a bit of good news. EvE (Equal Visibility Everywhere) announces that the Baltimore Sun has come out in favor of replacing one of their male statues with one of Harriet Tubman:

http://equalvisibilityeverywhere.org/what-we-do/statuary-hall-project/statuary-hall-project-updates/baltimore-sun-editorial-page-comes-out-in-favor-of-tubman-statue/

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Delle 03.02.11 at 3:46 pm

Nurses offer to buy obama shoes to march with workers in Wisconsin:

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=xprnw.20110302.SF58035&show_article=1

Oh My. It looks like they really believed him.

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Headclunker 03.02.11 at 7:32 pm

WTF is going on in Wisconsin? It is like a media blackout.

Here is one weird story on the little dicktator’s budget address:

http://www.boingboing.net/2011/03/02/scott-walker-smuggle.html

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Headclunker 03.02.11 at 7:34 pm

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goofsmom 03.02.11 at 7:52 pm

I’m more upset about news like this, than the unions…

SD Senate backs abortion bill requiring 72-hr wait

PIERRE, S.D. – The South Dakota Senate has approved a bill that would require women to wait 72 hours before they could have an abortion and to submit to counseling about why they shouldn’t go through with the procedure.

The state Senate voted 21-13 in favor of the bill Wednesday, sending it to Republican Gov. Dennis Daugaard for approval.

Daugaard declined to tell The Associated Press if he intends to sign the bill but he generally opposes abortion rights.
——-snip
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110303/ap_on_re_us/us_abortion_south_dakota

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Headclunker 03.02.11 at 8:35 pm

goofsmom,

That is bad, but one can cross state lines to see a doctor. The business in Wisconsin has turned confrontational and is being looked at as the first real test of the new wingnut Tea Party governors. If they succeed, it is going to do alot of damage. We have one here who is scary. He has a totally radical, conservative, top down management plan to reorganize the whole state. Bye Bye to health, environment and education. He is bald headed, with pointed ears and has glazed eyes. He flat out bought the election with some of his billions.

I mean these guys are freaks. Just look at Scott Walker. Is he cross eyed or something? And they clearly cannot support their ideas with debate or any two way conversations. They appear to be devoid of empathy and recite their dogma like drones. Obmam’s freaky right wingnut mirror image.

Nasty little men with their own agenda’s.

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goofsmom 03.02.11 at 8:56 pm

Headclunker,

#201 – I hear and agree with what you are saying. The problem with the pols these days is that the elections are so nasty that the capable, qualified and intelligent individuals are afraid to run. These leaves us with only the far edge wing nuts running in both parties.

It is depressing and scary, until such time as the MSM gets out of the slander, gossipy and trashy reporting, we will have these creatins running for office.

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BigCatLover 03.02.11 at 9:13 pm

Zee 03.02.11 at 10:37 am

Joseph Cannon has a must-read post up over at cannonfire.
*****************************
I also was a little shocked to read this blog at cannonfire (it makes sense, but still it is shocking), but also was a little nervous about linking to it since he can get far out and I sometimes get blowback if I link to him. Still I’d recommend reading it.

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BigCatLover 03.02.11 at 9:22 pm

Headclunker 03.02.11 at 7:34 pm

Here is another:

http://dekerivers.wordpress.com/2011/01/03/state-capitol-in-near-lock-down-for-scott-walker-inauguration/
***********************
it is a lockdown at the Wisc. state capital. There is a video of a Repub congressman who gets locked out of the statehouse building and can’t get in. Unfortunately, he is recognized by the protestors who follow him from door to door chanting ‘shame, shame, shame’. Those who do not support the unions are claiming that the crowd is terrifying and one called it wilding. The protest organizers finally quiet the crowd by making peace signs and chanting ‘peaceful, peaceful’. He calls inside the statehouse for someone to let him in and instead of opening the doors, the send a fire engine to pick him up. Pretty amazing. My question is did he do this on purpose to rile the crowd ala Nancy Pelosi walking thru the tea party rally outside the federal capital with her huge gavel so she could claim they threatened her?
From Hotair.

http://dane101.com/current/2011/03/01/wisconsin_gop_senator_glenn_grothman_chased_trapped_by_hecklers_saved_by_dem_rep_

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BigCatLover 03.02.11 at 9:27 pm

‘Mancession’ Portends Depressing Future for Men
Societal and economic shifts may put more men in Western countries at risk for depression, scientists worry.

“Western men, particularly those with low education levels, will face a difficult road in the 21st century,” write the authors of an editorial in the March issue of The British Journal of Psychiatry. “It may be more difficult, on average, for men to adjust to a domestic role than for women to adjust to a work role.”

snip

The recent economic downturn has been dubbed the “Mancession” for its disproportionate effect on traditional male industries, such as construction and manufacturing. Meanwhile, women are outpacing men in the pursuit of undergraduate and graduate degrees and becoming a larger share of primary household earners.

There’s more at Uppity’s site. Don’t worry, she takes them apart.
http://uppitywoman08.wordpress.com/2011/03/02/hows-it-feel-or-suck-it-up/#comments

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Headclunker 03.02.11 at 9:50 pm

Mancession. Yes. I think that the reason that the modern women’s movements had have limited success is that women will not “win” playing men’s games with men’s rules. The rules need to change from aggression and greed to the basic success of the society. That requires the inclusion of women. It has long been known that you can tell about the level of sophistication and health of a society by their inclusion of women.

Hillary did not “win” the 2008 election. But look at her now. Do you think Obowma is standing up to those Middle Eastern Dictators? All those people living in oppression…on the price of oil. Castrated women, raped if they do not toe the line. That is sick and evil. Their upheavals must be the price Obowma payed to skip the primary challenge.

Hillary Clinton wound up being more of a President than the president.

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Headclunker 03.02.11 at 10:00 pm

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DancesWithPumas 03.03.11 at 12:29 am

‘Mancession’ Portends Depressing Future for Men
Societal and economic shifts may put more men in Western countries at risk for depression, scientists worry.
——————–
“…scientists worry.”
Cry me a river. They didn’t bother worrying about women all these centuries…
Screw ‘em.
K-a-r-m-a baby!

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theamericanway 03.03.11 at 7:52 am

Re #198:
… Axelrod, who, like Obama, can’t help but show exasperation about today’s rapid-fire news coverage and the attention paid to political winners and losers. “It was very hard to control the narrative in a way that you would like,” Axelrod said. “I think we’ve been better at it in the last 60 days, for sure. We’ve learned some lessons.”….
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/01/31/axelrod-way-weve-learned-lessons/

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BigCatLover 03.03.11 at 10:48 am

#209
What a bunch of fluff that article is. The first thing I did was check who wrote it and once again it was the AP, just like during the primaries and the campaign. It’s Axelrod’s opening message for the 2012 campaign. He’s so bad at this, but his fawning press minions keep propping him and the one up. The message, the message, the message. God, it gets old.

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stoney42 03.07.11 at 8:46 pm

Hi Pumas!

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goofsmom 03.07.11 at 9:51 pm

Hi ya stoney,

Nice to have the big house back… :)

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Headclunker 03.07.11 at 10:29 pm

Missed you!

BO is busy setting record deficits and I would not want to miss posting it at the big house.

Our Historic Candidate Makes More History – The Monthly Deficit

The federal government posted its largest monthly deficit in history in February at $223 billion, according to preliminary numbers the Congressional Budget Office released Monday morning.

http://hotair.com/archives/2011/03/07/great-news-america-sets-new-record-for-monthly-deficit-spending/

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Headclunker 03.07.11 at 10:50 pm

Wisconsin Woes

http://blogs.abcnews.com/thenote/2011/03/wisconsin-standoff-intensifies-governor-scott-walker-will-not-relent-on-collective-bargaining-rights.html

Wisconsin Standoff Intensifies: Governor Scott Walker Will Not Relent on Collective Bargaining Rights, Senate Democrats Will Not Return

March 07, 2011 3:43 PM

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goofsmom 03.07.11 at 11:19 pm

We don’t need to be involved in Libya…

US, allies edge toward military options for Libya

WASHINGTON – The U.S. and its NATO allies edged closer Monday to formulating a military response to the escalating violence in Libya as the alliance boosted surveillance flights over the country and the Obama administration signaled it might be willing to help arm Moammar Gadhafi’s opponents. Europe, meanwhile, kick-started international efforts to impose a no-fly zone.

It still appeared unlikely that U.S. warplanes or missiles would soon deploy in Libya, which may be sliding toward civil war, but the ongoing violence increased pressure on Washington to do something or spell out its plan.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110307/ap_on_re_us/us_obama_libya

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Zee 03.08.11 at 12:26 am

omg. Happy International Women’s Day. or whatever.

I’ve been stressing, imagining all sorts of doomsday scenarios with no pumapac…

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goofsmom 03.08.11 at 5:03 am

(((Zee)))

We were in the cabin. WordPress was taken down by 2 different Denial of Service attacks. Articles I found said that WordPress believes the attacks originated in China.

Happy International Womens Day to you too!!!

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theamericanway 03.08.11 at 5:55 am

A-h-h-h!

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Delle 03.08.11 at 6:45 am

So glad to see the site is back up.

I really missed reading all of your comments.

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HP Boston 03.08.11 at 12:14 pm

PUMAS!!! You were lost but now I found you! Do not wander off again, I was in a panic.
You did not even leave bread crumbs so I could find the cabin!
I am uber busy, my sister is arriving from Florida in the morn and I must shop and clean. And then We are going to have mucho fun.

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HP Boston 03.08.11 at 12:23 pm

China sucks!! :evil: :evil:

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goofsmom 03.08.11 at 2:02 pm

HP Boston,

Have a great time with your sister. :grin:

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Delle 03.08.11 at 4:52 pm

11 to be enshrined in Women’s Hall of Fame:

http://www.kjonline.com/news/11-to-be-enshrined-in-Womens-Hall-of-Fame.html#

I love Billie Holiday. Beautiful voice but very sad life. I’m glad she will be honored.

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Delle 03.08.11 at 4:53 pm

HP have a great time with your sister.

I hope she didn’t have to go through the pat down.

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goofsmom 03.09.11 at 5:09 am

YEAAAAAAA, we’re back!!!

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Delle 03.09.11 at 6:02 am

International Women’s Day Egyptian March Met By Men:

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/blog-post/2011/03/international_womens_day_march.html

Women told to go home and raise the kids!

Islam Sucks!

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CJK2 03.09.11 at 11:34 am

Where, oh where is Murphy? Woman, your insightful words are so very much needed on so many important subjects. You are missed!

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BigCatLover 03.09.11 at 11:42 am

Murphy, your fans are looking for you. Mrs. Smith at Hillaryis44 was looking for Pumapac yesterday to read your post on Intenational Women’s Day. She said she was looking forward to it.

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DancesWithPumas 03.09.11 at 1:25 pm

TRENDING: Obama makes light of birthplace rumors
By: CNN Political Unit

(CNN) – President Obama joked about the ongoing “birther” debate surrounding his birthplace at a Democratic fundraiser in Boston Tuesday night.

“I think there’s nothing – there’s no weakness in us trying to reach out and seeing if we can find common ground. Now, there are going to be times where we can’t,” Obama said about reaching across the aisle. “I was born in Hawaii, what can I say? I mean, I just… I can’t change those facts.”

Obama was in fact born in Hawaii, but it has been a topic of conversation since the 2008 election. On Monday the Supreme Court again rejected an appeal from a “birther” proponent questioning the citizenship of the president.
At least 10 states have introduced bills requiring presidential candidates to provide proof they are natural-born citizens.

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goofsmom 03.09.11 at 3:53 pm

How Oil company’s screw us and get away with it. Article attached is eye opening.

Analysis: Think $100 U.S. oil is bad? It’s really much worse

MEXICO CITY (Reuters) – Americans worried about the pain of $100 U.S. oil should worry a lot more.

Although $100 oil is the headline in U.S. newspapers, most refineries that supply fuel to service stations are paying the equivalent of a much higher price — and those costs are already being felt when consumers fill up their vehicles.

The cause is an unprecedented disconnect between the most visible price of oil — crude oil futures contracts on the New York Mercantile Exchange (NYMEX) — and the real cost of physical barrels pumped from the Gulf of Mexico, Saudi Arabia and elsewhere.

This gap is caused by oil traders’ growing realization that inventories at the small Oklahoma town of Cushing — the delivery point for the NYMEX contract — will likely be awash with crude for months to come due to booming production from Canada and shale oil producing states such as North Dakota.

Because the U.S. pipeline system was designed to import oil from the coast to the interior, not vice versa, there’s no way to move the extra northern crude to the southern refiners, in places such as Houston and Port Arthur, Texas, which are paying much higher rates for crude from far abroad.
——snip

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20110309/lf_nm_life/us_usa_oil

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Headclunker 03.09.11 at 6:15 pm

Newsweek is featuring news on Hillary and other women world leaders. Needless to say, the MSM seems generally negative, with references to it being boring and the same old thing. Unfortunately, it has not been the thing.

http://www.newsweek.com/2011/03/06/the-hillary-doctrine.html

http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsmaker/women-in-the-world/

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Headclunker 03.09.11 at 9:13 pm

Tyrannical Wingnutbag in Wisconsin on the Rampage

http://www.ajc.com/news/nation-world/wis-gop-strips-public-865928.html

By SCOTT BAUER
The Associated Press

MADISON, Wis. — Republicans in the Wisconsin Senate voted Wednesday night to strip nearly all collective bargaining rights from public workers after discovering a way to bypass the chamber’s missing Democrats.

All 14 Senate Democrats fled to Illinois nearly three weeks ago, preventing the chamber from having enough members present to consider Gov. Scott Walker’s so-called “budget repair bill” — a proposal introduced to plug a $137 million budget shortfall.

The Senate requires a quorum to take up any measures that spend money. But Republicans on Wednesday split from the legislation the proposal to curtail union rights, which spends no money, and a special conference committee of state lawmakers approved the bill a short time later.

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goofsmom 03.09.11 at 11:32 pm

Headclunker,

I really despise all pols at this point. If the Dems had been in the state they could have done something to stop this action. As a result they are complicit in this end-run charade. How could they, the Dem legislature, think that the Reps would just stop and wait for them to come back. They let down their voters by being absent. All of them, the Reps that did the end-run and the Dems that left their voters to the wolves, should be voted out or recalled.

JMO

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HP Boston 03.10.11 at 5:04 am

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Delle 03.08.11 at 4:53 pm

HP have a great time with your sister.

I hope she didn’t have to go through the pat down
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Delle,
She went through the bodyscan machine, everyone was required to, that was in Tampa, she was enroute to Boston.
Some were pulled for pat down after scan.

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Delle 03.10.11 at 5:52 am

HP Boston – I’m sorry that your sister had to go through the scan. I guess it could have been worse though. At least she didn’t have to have the pat down too.

This is one of my pet peeves and I am afraid that people are now accepting this intrusion. At least no one is complaining any longer. The passengers are just following along in line like sheep. I find that frightening!

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BigCatLover 03.10.11 at 9:51 am

goofsmom 03.09.11 at 11:32 pm

Headclunker,

I really despise all pols at this point. If the Dems had been in the state they could have done something to stop this action. As a result they are complicit in this end-run charade. How could they, the Dem legislature, think that the Reps would just stop and wait for them to come back. They let down their voters by being absent. All of them, the Reps that did the end-run and the Dems that left their voters to the wolves, should be voted out or recalled.

JMO
************************
Goofsmom, the wisc. dems said from the very beginning that they did not have the votes to stop the anti union agenda of Gov. Walker and his repubs, but that they were trying to slow down this legislation from being passes on so that Americans would have a chance to see what the repubs were planning to do quickly and quietly before anyone could stop it. They were very successful in this counter maneuver and now everyone knows what the republican agenda in the states is. There is no way they could have prevented this even had they been in wisc. Blame the ones who wanted unions stripped of all their power. The budget had nothing to do with this assault on unions and the repubs made this clear when they stripped all budget provisions out of the bill so they did not need a quorum to pass it yesterday.

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theamericanway 03.10.11 at 11:21 am

Headclunker, there’s mail.

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goofsmom 03.10.11 at 3:08 pm

Headclunker,

Believe me I do blame the Reps. There are about 5 other states passing similar bills, its unbelievable!

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Zee 03.10.11 at 10:59 pm

I’ve been enjoying the week with my son, who is on break. One more term, then a few weeks home and he’s off to the west coast. I’m resigned to have to fly to see my own lone boy.

Less than usually grueling session with the tax man today…my friend takes some of the sting out of the ordeal.

There has been much grating news on the woman-front, despite it supposedly being our month…I could really use some murphy kick-ass right about now….

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Zee 03.11.11 at 7:45 am

Just read about the tsunami warning for the west coast and thinking about all the PUMAs (and everyone else) out there…..stay on high ground!

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DancesWithPumas 03.11.11 at 11:08 am

Northern CA is expected to experience some damage…
Central CA is on coastal high alert…
Southern CA is on a lower alert.

Our bigger / stronger waves were expected to hit around 8AM (5 minutes ago) and continue for several hours. Advising people to stay out of the water, off the beaches, and off coastal roads, and Pacific Coast Highway aka Highway 1.

I’m only 15 minutes from the water but on a granite hilltop community (Hillcrest), so no worries here. I work at sea level but off the bay, not the ocean. Not expecting anything life threatening, altho, I did drive my RV to work this morning, just in case I have to drive and stay inland for a bit. :-)

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DancesWithPumas 03.11.11 at 12:36 pm

A tsunami advisory is in effect for Orange County and San Diego
County coastal areas…

A tsunami was generated in the far western Pacific Ocean near
Japan and has arrived in California.

In Southern California the leading surge has arrived and
additional cycles or sets will continue for at least several
hours. A tsunami advisory means wave heights are forecast to be
from 1 to 3 feet.

The initial wave arrival times occurred at:

San Pedro Harbor… … .at 832 am PST.
La Jolla… … … … … at 841 am PST.

Forecast tsunami wave heights this morning:

Huntington Beach… … .2.3 feet
Laguna Beach… … … ..2.0 feet
La Jolla… … … … … 2.8 feet
Ballast Point… … … .2.3 feet
San Diego Navy pier… .1.2 feet
north Imperial Beach… 2.6 feet

Low tide at La Jolla Friday was at 757 am PST.

Although no widespread inundation is likely in Southern
California… there is a high likelihood of strong currents and waves
dangerous to persons in or near the water. The strong currents
will be hazardous to swimmers… boaters… and coastal structures.
Strong currents in the harbors and bays will continue for 10 to
12 hours hours after the initial wave arrival.

The tsunami advisory was issued for Southern California after an
8.9 magnitude earthquake struck Japan at 946 PM PST Thursday.

Coastal residents are advised to stay out of the water… off the
beach… and away from harbors and marinas. Wave heights and
currents are amplified by irregular shoreline and are difficult to
predict. The initial wave may not be the largest. Later waves may
be larger. Mariners in water deeper than 600 feet should not be
affected.

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stoney42 03.11.11 at 3:17 pm

The films of the devastation in Japan amazing. How awful.

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Zee 03.11.11 at 4:18 pm

Agreed, stoney…horrific.

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Headclunker 03.12.11 at 2:06 pm

Charity is easy when you are fat and happy. Japan is going to test the charity of the whole world on this one.

http://www1.networkforgood.org/help-survivors-pacific-quake-tsunami?source=AOL&cmpgn=NEWS

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freddiebrown 03.12.11 at 5:27 pm

Japan’s horrific situation is really mind boggling when you see the force of the Tsunami. I donated to the Tsunami when it hit the Asian countries a few years ago – as most of the people were from very poor countries. But I wonder too, how it would pan out now that it happened to a developed country. I hope if something happened to USA, that other countries would rally to help and they won’t hesitate because we are fat and happy.

I emailed a customer from Tokyo and he said he could not even stand up when the quake hit.

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goofsmom 03.12.11 at 8:21 pm

freddie,

#246 – I can’t find a link right now, but Japan was one of the countries that contributed aid after Katrina.

I’m glad you were able to reach your customer in Tokyo and that he was okay.

What has happened there is very scary, because they are better prepared to deal with quakes than CA.

Very sad…

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stoney42 03.12.11 at 9:37 pm

If there is a melt-down at the nuclear plant, and the radiations escapes, will that radiation be blown here to the U.S.?

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goofsmom 03.12.11 at 10:16 pm

stoney,

Depends on which way the wind is blowing… The threat would be about the same as with Chernoble…

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Headclunker 03.12.11 at 11:52 pm

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Headclunker 03.12.11 at 11:53 pm

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Headclunker 03.13.11 at 12:00 am

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freddiebrown 03.13.11 at 4:51 pm

Goofsmom – there is really no pre-warnings or alerts of earth quakes in California (or any part of USA) like there is in Japan. Why ? That was the question I was asking two days ago.
All the billions of $ going into nonsensical Govt. spending (earmarks anyone?) is an insult to me, who pays a lot of taxes.

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Zee 03.13.11 at 10:24 pm

Good questions, all, freddiebrown!

As for other questions, radiation has already been released whether or not that plant goes into meltdown.

And what about that toxic aftermath of Deepwater Horizon disaster?

These should be the questions posed and answered, instead of the political religious warfare embroiling the world. Last thing we need is to add our own manmade problems to the life we all face.

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Zee 03.13.11 at 10:27 pm

Anyway, I’m boneless after an entire weekend helping my son revamp his apartment and streamline for his big move this summer.

Fun but exhausting…

Now I fell like shouting “Hellllllooooo!” and hoping to hear an answer instead of an echo in the pumapac terrain!

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goofsmom 03.14.11 at 2:36 am

Freddie,

Great question… the warning system they have in Japan gave people 10 seconds to duck and cover. Any warning would be a bonus.

Zee sorry I’m late… Hellloooooooo… ;)

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theamericanway 03.14.11 at 3:27 pm

Here’s another financial obligation the Obama 2008 team appears to have dropped:

Illinois Mayor asks President Obama for Help in Paying City Back for 2008 Campaign Stop
Springfield, IL Mayor Frank Edwards has sent a letter to President Obama asking if he can help make sure $55,458 tab left over from a 2008 campaign event Obama held in the city gets paid. It seems there’s some bureaucratic tape in play on who pays – then Illinois Sen. Obama had Secret Service detail, so there is confusion if they would be responsible, the Democratic National Committee (DNC) or Obama’s political arm, Organizing for America (OFA). Springfield’s Communications Director Ernie Slottag tells Fox the city doesn’t necessarily think the White House is responsible for the payment because Obama wasn’t president yet, but that the president might be able to move things along. The mayor sent the letter last Thursday but Edwards’ office has not yet heard a response.
The event in question was Obama’s event in Springfield announcing that then Sen. Joe Biden would be his running mate. The city paid for police and first responders to help secure the event.

Obama’s campaign actually got a bill for $68,139, but $55,457 is still outstanding.

http://politics.blogs.foxnews.com/2011/03/14/illinois-mayor-asks-president-obama-help-paying-city-back-2008-campaign-stop?test=latestnews

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Headclunker 03.14.11 at 4:48 pm

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Headclunker 03.14.11 at 5:00 pm

The Republicans are all up in arms over this article:
http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,2058601,00.html

Apparently Scottie is getting alot of death threats.

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Headclunker 03.14.11 at 6:23 pm

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Headclunker 03.14.11 at 7:35 pm

I have to wonder why the Nuclear Reactors in Japan were not designed better for such an event that recently took place. At the very least, they should have had emergency response plans in place with mutual aid agreements. Gee, does that sound familiar? Ask the people around the Gulf of Mexico.

Is the nuclear part of the mess in Japan a consequence of all those competitive vehicles they have been selling? Cheaper energy from a cheaper nuclear power plant to make cheaper cars?

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Zee 03.14.11 at 10:12 pm

I know people must be overwhelmed, but here…an article on what Hillary is achieving…a must read!

http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2011-03-06/hillary-clintons-mission-to-help-women-and-girls-worldwide/

My gawd, what this woman is doing for the world. Thank you, Hillary.
hugs to goofs… think what these women Hillary is lifting up all over the world are going thru…we are duty bound to rise…

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Delle 03.15.11 at 5:47 am

Obama is off to Rio:

http://blogs.forbes.com/kenrapoza/2011/03/14/obama-heads-to-rio-sunday-maximum-security-awaits/

Of course we know why he is going. Soros has invested heavily in a new Brazilian oil field.

This gets me very angry! While so many people are suffering and while regular travellers have to go through all kinds of hassels to get from one place to another, the obamas are roaming the world, staying in the best of places and being treated like old time royalty – all on the taxpayers money.

I have always disliked these people, but now I’m afraid I am starting to hate them!

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stoney42 03.15.11 at 8:33 am

Good Morning Pumas.

Beware The Ides of March.

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Zee 03.15.11 at 8:36 am

Well, in the midst of all the suffering, we need at least a wry chuckle. As long as you skip the jerks’ comments, the article itself is a good read.

http://wonkette.com/440534/evil-obama-now-firing-people-for-acting-semi-human

“Guess who turned out to be the biggest asshole in the world? Your boyfriend, Barack Obama.”

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Zee 03.15.11 at 8:38 am

Thinking about the people in Japan….and now adding Californians, hoping our west coast is not hit by earthquake or radiation….

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PumaRhythm 03.15.11 at 3:49 pm

***************Waving to Murphy, Dances & Pumas*******************

havent posted in a while..some medical problems.

My thoughts and prayers are with the people of Japan…so much suffering.
I feel so helpless, sad and afraid for them. It seems the whole world is in turmoil..its like a nightmare.

(((Cali Pumas))) please stay safe….and Dances…keep the RV topped off..you and the Pumas might have to head east.

also…for any Pumas out there dealing with chronic pain…I highly recommend an electric blanket…it works wonders on muscle pain.

will drop by later ((((Pumas)))).

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DancesWithPumas 03.15.11 at 4:54 pm

PumaRhythm…
I hope you feel better soon!

Since I live in an earthquake/fire/flood state I always keep the RV topped off (gasoline, fresh water, full propane, charged house batteries, coffee, emergency powdered milk, some canned goods, changes of clothing), and the gray and black tanks empty. Never know when one will have to make a break for it around here.
Thank you for the thought and advice though. :-)

Zee
West Coast is expecting higher radiation levels with the rains we’re expecting this weekend. Taking Iodine tabs was suggested since the thyroid absorbs iodine and there’s iodine in the radiation, so load up the thyroid before it goes looking for iodine in all the wrong places.

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Headclunker 03.15.11 at 5:16 pm

Here is a timeline on the Japan Nuclear Disaster. Looks like they are identifying a failure of the emergency generators as the root cause.

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/279de87e-4f20-11e0-9c25-00144feab49a.html#axzz1Gi04tBcM

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Headclunker 03.15.11 at 5:21 pm

BO Dropping like a rock at MINUS 22% Approval Margin.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll

Looks like a record low 20% who strongly approve of the anointed one.

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invalidresponse 03.15.11 at 7:30 pm

For Those With Vaginas (especially str8′s with them)
The link below is a must watch video!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=NmQhCWfXu2o

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Headclunker 03.15.11 at 8:24 pm

Invalid #271

That link is especially important for Those Without Vagina to watch.

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invalidresponse 03.15.11 at 8:33 pm

Headclunker #272

lol, yeah, I guess you have a point there.

It is an important video…. period… :lol:

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freddiebrown 03.15.11 at 8:33 pm

I heard many first hand accounts of Japanese people being so polite and calm in their most difficult time. A friend told me that convenience stores in the affected areas were allowing people to take 1 or 2 items free of charge. Then I read this from Cnn’s Cafferty. I just found it intriguing and very refreshing why there is no looting or violence there..I donated to the Red Cross – after much deliberation, it is good to do good.

FROM CNN’s Jack Cafferty:
In the wake of Japan’s deadly earthquake, tsunami and nuclear power plant explosions, we have witnessed the almost indescribable chaos that follows a disaster of this magnitude: loss of life, severe injuries, homelessness, lack of water, food and proper medical care, the physical destruction of towns and cities, and a growing fear of radioactive contamination from power plants that seem beyond anyone’s ability to control.

But one heart-wrenching byproduct of disasters like this one has been missing in Japan, and that’s looting and lawlessness.

Looting is something we see after almost every tragedy; for example: last year’s earthquakes in Haiti and Chile, the floods in England in 2007, and of course Hurricane Katrina back in 2005. It happens when some people who’ve seen life as they know it get tossed out the window feel that all morality has been tossed out too. It’s survival of the fittest and whatever you can get your hands on is yours, no matter who it belongs to.

But that’s not happening in Japan.

Journalist and social commentator Ed West wrote in the UK Telegraph yesterday how struck he was by the Japanese culture throughout this ordeal. He observed how supermarkets cut their prices in the days following the quake and how vending machine owners were giving out free drinks as “people work together to survive.” And West was most surprised by the fact that there was no looting.

Many have pointed to the popularity of Japan’s distinctive Buddhist and Shinto religions as well as how the values of conformity and consensus are considered virtues in their culture. That’s one explanation, but it probably has something to do with remaining true to your moral code even in the darkest hours.
Read more here :
http://caffertyfile.blogs.cnn.com/

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goofsmom 03.16.11 at 2:12 pm

Freddie,

Thank you for sharing the story. Yes, it has been inspiring to see how the Japanese people are handling the crisis. I’m sending my best to all of your contacts and acquaintences in Japan.

It is just heartbreaking to see all the videos and read the stories of the suffering that is going on in Japan.

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HP Boston 03.16.11 at 3:22 pm

Hi Pumas…as usual sadness abounds from all the news of havoc around the world.
So great is the massive lose of life and desstruction in Japan it is hard to comprehend.
I do despair, all these days of seeing Lara Logan on our blog, the look on her face tears me up. The dogscummenshitturds near her are the ugly forms of life that need a dishonor wipeout.
Makes me so damn sad……….

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stoney42 03.16.11 at 4:05 pm

It is a little after 5 pm eastern. Wolfe Blitzer is suppose to have an interview with Hillary during this CNN news hour.

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Headclunker 03.16.11 at 5:21 pm

Here is some radiation info from a health bulletin I got today:

Here’s a look at the potential radiation exposures and effects on human health.

Is all radiation harmful?

No. There are two types of radiation: non-ionizing and ionizing. Non-ionizing radiation includes infrared radiation, radio waves, cellphone radiation and the radiation we use to cook food in a microwave. Such radiation does not break chemical bonds. If it is very intense, it can heat up tissues; otherwise, it does not have significant effects. It is not believed to cause cancer.

Ionizing radiation is much more dangerous because it does break chemical bonds and thus does cause cancer. Examples of this kind of radiation include X-rays, gamma rays and the alpha or beta particles emitted by radioactive elements as they decay.

What happens when someone is exposed to ionizing radiation?

That depends on how long you are exposed. The initial symptoms are identical to those suffered by a person undergoing radiation therapy for cancer. The first signs include nausea and fatigue, then vomiting. After that comes hair loss and diarrhea. For radiotherapy for tumors, the exposure generally stops after that point and the symptoms are controlled. But with heavier exposure, the next stage is generally destruction of the intestinal lining and worse diarrhea and dehydration, then central nervous system damage. After that comes loss of consciousness and, inevitably, death.

How does radiation released from nuclear plants compare with a nuclear bomb?

A nuclear explosion produces two types of radiation that has lethal effects. The blast itself produces X-rays and gamma rays that irradiate anyone near the site, usually with a lethal or near-lethal dose of radiation. Most of the 166,000 Japanese who died at Hiroshima in the first four months after the atomic bombing suffered from this type of radiation, which killed them directly or aggravated other injuries suffered in the blast.

It also produces clouds of radioactive ash that includes cesium-137, iodine-131, radioactive strontium and a host of other long-lived byproducts of the explosion — known collectively as fallout. This material can collect on skin and clothing, where it can emit radiation that pierces the skin. More important, it can accumulate in food, milk, water and other products that are ingested. It is not clear how many Hiroshima residents died of cancer from this source, but some estimates put it at more than 100,000.

Fukushima is not emitting gamma or X-irradiation. Most of the radioactivity is in the form of radiocesium and radioiodine, which are byproducts of the fission of uranium in the fuel rods.

What makes cesium-137 and iodine-131 dangerous?

Iodine-131 is absorbed preferentially in the thyroid gland, where it can cause tumors. It has a half-life of eight days and is most dangerous to children because it damages rapidly dividing cells. The problem can be substantially ameliorated by taking tablets of ordinary iodine, which bind to the thyroid and prevent the radioactive iodine from binding.

Cesium-137, which has a half-life of 30 years, is more serious. It is a salt that acts like potassium and goes everywhere in the body. It is absorbed into soft tissues, causing sarcomas. It contaminates food, water and milk and gets into the body when those things are ingested. Contamination with cesium-137 is one of the main reasons large areas of land had to be abandoned in the wake of the Chernobyl disaster in 1986.

How much exposure is enough to make someone sick?

The biological risk of exposure to radiation is measured in sieverts, or Sv. An exposure of 500,000 microsieverts, or µSv, can lead to nausea and fatigue within hours. A dose of 750,000 µSv causes hair loss within two or three weeks, and a dose of 1 million µSv will cause hemorrhage. Death usually occurs at a dose of 4 million µSv.

In terms of long-term effects, experts estimate that if 10,000 people were each exposed to 10,000 µSv of ionizing radiation in small doses over a lifetime, about five or six more people in the group would die of cancer than would be expected without the radiation exposure.

What were the health consequences of Chernobyl and Three Mile Island?

In the case of Chernobyl, United Nations reports have estimated that fewer than 50 people had died of causes directly related to radiation exposure. Most were rescue workers who had received high radiation doses; 28 died within the first few months. As many as 4,000 people are expected to eventually die of radiation-related causes. A 2005 report said about 4,000 thyroid cancers were directly related to radiation exposure, mostly in people who were children or adolescents at the time of the disaster and drank milk highly contaminated with radioactive iodine. At least nine died.

To track the health fallout of the 1979 Three Mile Island disaster, the Pennsylvania Department of Health kept a registry of more than 30,000 people who lived within five miles of the site at the time. Finding little evidence of significantly changed cancer rates, it discontinued the database in 1997.

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freddiebrown 03.16.11 at 5:41 pm

Goofmom – I am so intrigued by how they people of Japan process crisis and disaster. They seem to internalize instead of wearing it on their sleeves and blaming everyone around them, suing the government or what have you. Reading the new article below on this subject gives me goose bumps but explains the why… I am not sure I like the “in your face” all the time of American culture.

http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/asiapcf/03/16/japan.cultural.order/index.html?hpt=C2

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goofsmom 03.16.11 at 5:50 pm

Freddie,

That was a wonderful article, it did help explain some of the “Why”

I agree, the mine, mine, mine culture of the US can be disheartening.

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goofsmom 03.16.11 at 5:52 pm

Headclunker,

Thanks for the post on the fall out. The only thing I didn’t see addressed is how it works in the case of Reactor 3 at the plant, which has Plutonium in it’s fuel mix.

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DancesWithPumas 03.16.11 at 8:03 pm

Hillary says No
CNN’s Wolf Blitzer has released an interviews with SOS Hillary Clinton.
::::snip::::

Q- If the president is reelected, do you want to serve a second term as secretary of state?

No

Q- Would you like to serve as secretary of defense?

No

Q- Would you like to be vice president of the United States?

No

Q- Would you like to be president of the United States?

No

Q- Why not?

Because I have the best job I could ever have. This is a moment in history where it is almost hard to catch your breath. There are both the tragedies and disasters that we have seen from Haiti to Japan and there are the extraordinary opportunities and challenges that we see right here in Egypt and in the rest of the region. So I want to be part of helping to represent the United States at this critical moment in time, to do everything I can in support of the president and our government and the people of our country to stand for our values and our ideals, to stand up for our security, which has to remain first and foremost in my mind and to advance America’s interests. And there isn’t anything that I can imagine doing after this that would be as demanding, as challenging or rewarding.

Q- President of the United States?

You know, I had a wonderful experience running and I am very proud of the support I had and very grateful for the opportunity, but I’m going to be, you know, moving on.

Q- I asked my viewers and followers on Twitter to send questions and a lot of them said, “Ask her if she’ll run in 2016 for the presidency.” A lot of folks would like to you to do that.

Well that’s very kind, but I am doing what I want to do right now and I have no intention or any idea even of running again. I’m going to do the best I can at this job for the next two years.

http://skydancingblog.com/2011/03/16/hillary-says-no/

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Headclunker 03.16.11 at 8:31 pm

Dances #282

That is so Hillary. She stays focused in today and gives little away about the future, except for perhaps a desire to retire. I believe there is alot of sincerity in what she says. It was America that lost the 2008 Democratic Primary. Hillary is dong fine. So, she has no intention or any idea even of running again…but could she ever get such an idea?

Now, if for some reason or other BO could not run in 2012….maybe we would have a choice besides BO and, ugh, a republican. Maybe H could be presumed upon to serve her country.

Just still hoping and dreaming of impeachment proceedings.

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DancesWithPumas 03.16.11 at 8:55 pm

Just still hoping and dreaming of impeachment proceedings.
——————
You can’t be serious.

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Headclunker 03.16.11 at 9:24 pm

Dances,

No, I am absolutely not serious. But I am dreaming.

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Dragonfly 03.17.11 at 8:34 am

I have been following an astrologer for nearly a year now who has predicted major events in weather and seismic activity. He did it again on March 4, when he published an article that included this excerpt:

“During the entire month of March 2011 we can expect to hear of powerful earthquakes along the ‘Ring of Fire.’

In March, look first to Asia for seismic action in the northern hemisphere – China and Japan, then to the Philippines, along to the Aleutian Islands, Alaska, to British Columbia, Canada, then to California in the United States, stretching down to Mexico and into South America.

With the global transits at hand, there are sure to be powerful, large magnitude earthquakes in the months of March and April.

My astrological calculations show a 88.9% rating for significant seismic activity between 6.6 to 7.9+ in magnitude.

There are additional planetary configuration signals I’ve interpreted that show even stronger quakes by scale – 8.9 to 9.2 in magnitude. Some people will not believe me, but transits are well within astrological red-zone warning range.

Significant Dates

*March 10,11
*March 18,19,20,21
March 28
April 1,2,3
*April 4
*April 9,10
*April 15
*April 16,17,18
April 24

Caution is strongly advised for those living in and near the regions highlighted in the map below.”

to see the map, follow this link – I can’t get it to show up:

http://globalastrologyblog.blogspot.com/

he writes a LOT, so scan down patiently.

Dances, it is time for you to road trip East, my friend.

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Dragonfly 03.17.11 at 8:40 am

The astrologer continues:

The New Moon of Sunday, April 3, 2011, set here for Los Angeles, California, shows all the astrological signatures of an active seismic month.

The Sign on the Fourth House cusp is Cancer, ruled by the Moon, at 13-Aries of this new moon. Opposed to Saturn, retrograde at 13-Libra, the new moon is only 25′ minutes from exact opposition. Jupiter in Aries is also opposed to Saturn.

The Signs of Aries and Libra are intercepted inside the 6th and 12th Houses of the New Moon chart with the powerful Aries stellium rising.

Mars and Uranus are conjoined in Aries, and within orb of square aspects to the North Lunar Node in Sagittarius.

Therefore, the entire month of April features unfavorable transits featuring accidents, injuries, fires, and violence. Caution is advised.

The days of April 3 to April 11 and April 16 to 20 show increased seismic activity as well.

I urge those living in California to make preparations in advance of potentially powerful earthquakes.”

Y’all know this Dragonfly is not a doomsdayer but I do love my friends. Caution never hurt anything. I would not post this except that this same astrologer predicted every major event last year that caught my attention in the news, from the Gulf Gusher to the flooding in Pakistan.

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Dragonfly 03.17.11 at 8:43 am

Those who don’t understand astrology – note that Mars is the planet of violence and war, and Uranus of sudden change. When the two are conjoined in Aries (the sign Mars rules – so his energy is stronger in Aries), or sitting next to each other in the sky from our perspective, change akin to the Tower in the tarot deck often follows.

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Dragonfly 03.17.11 at 8:47 am

last bit from this astrologer that I will post for my Californian friends:

“Seismic events are highlighted for New Moon Week of April 3-11, preceding the following lunar perigee and Full Moon Week of April 18-25.

What makes April 17 noticeable, and seismically active, is a strong lunar perigee with the Moon in Libra, just after conjunction to Saturn, itself retrograde at 17-Libra and in the Fourth Mundane House, at this locale of California.

Leading up to the lunar perigee, the days of April 16, *17, *18, *19, and 20 are also highlighted for strong earthquakes.

This Moon, on Sunday, April 17, in the chart above, is nearly full at 22-Libra and opposes both Mercury and Jupiter in Aries, while Mars in Aries opposes Saturn.

Transiting Venus, at 25-Pisces, is in conjunction to Uranus, with an applying square to Pluto in Capricorn.

Venus is square to the North Lunar Node at 26-Sagittarius, bordering the Sixth House of the chart, signifying a ‘sudden’ event that pushes people into ‘action.’

Mercury is retrograde at this time at 14-Aries, in the Tenth, as part of a stellium of planets in Aries opposed to Saturn in the Fourth.

These are powerful transits, associated with the lunar perigee, can easily spark shallow and large magnitude earthquakes.

It is therefore advised for anyone living in California and along the west coast, to use the month of March to prepare emergency supplies and use caution in the event of a powerful earthquake.

Emergency Preparedness professionals are urged to update their earthquake management procedures and closely monitor seismic activity.

Act and think ahead, talk to neighbors and gain a sense of who is prepared and who is not.

Update all communications/shelter equipment, first-aid and food/water supplies.

Have all families members involved and on the same page on what to do in the event of a strong seismic event.

Be safe and remember – be prepared – not scared.”

I’ll be sending good vibes your way.

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DancesWithPumas 03.17.11 at 9:40 am

March 4
———
Traditionally a bad luck day for Greeks: March forth… etc.
*********
Dances, it is time for you to road trip East, my friend.
———
I think taking a month to two months off from work for a road trip will not go over too well with my employer. I will, however, use my RV (19′ Class B (=converted van) as my daily commute vehicle during the appointed time frames.

Thank you for the info.

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Delle 03.17.11 at 11:22 am

Dragonfly – This man’s predictions have nothing to do with astrology. The man interviewed here by Cavuto is a former USGS Geologist:

http://politicsandfinance.blogspot.com/2011/03/major-california-earthquake-predicted.html

It’s not looking good for the State of California!

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DancesWithPumas 03.17.11 at 12:02 pm

Statement as of 8:22 AM PDT on March 17, 2011

… High surf advisory in effect until 2 PM PDT Friday…

The National Weather Service in San Diego has issued a high surf
advisory… which is in effect until 2 PM PDT Friday.

* Waves and surf: 6 to 10 feet.

* Tides: high tide just occurred around 800 am PDT with a height
around six feet. The next tide will be low and occur around 230
PM today with a negative height near one foot. The next high
tide occurs just before 9 PM PDT tonight with a height slightly
over five feet.

* Timing: 9 am PDT Thursday through 2 PM PDT Friday

* impacts: breaking waves across the entrance to Oceanside Harbor
and Mission Bay during this afternoon… about an hour either
side of the low tide. Minor beach erosion around the times of
high tides… this morning… this evening… and again Friday
morning. Higher waves washing over jetties and sea
walls… possibly into beach parking lots… and hitting the
bottom of Ocean Beach pier during these times.

Precautionary/preparedness actions…

A high surf advisory means that high surf will affect beaches in
the advisory area… producing rip currents and localized beach
erosion.

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freddiebrown 03.17.11 at 3:32 pm

So basically it boils down to these predictions for California ” a major seismic event to occur in California sometime between the dates of the 19th and 26th of this month” .

I will mark it on the calendar. Fred says, do not forget his dog food and blankie. Thanks for sharing everyone – not sure what we are going to do but good to be aware.

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wontbackdown 03.17.11 at 3:59 pm

From: Info@hillaryclinton.com

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The Electoral College needs fixing.

Your action NOW can make the difference because the Texas Legislature is currently considering the National Popular Vote bill to reform the Electoral College.

Under the National Popular Vote bill, the presidential candidate who gets the most popular votes in all 50 states and DC will become President.

Please take a moment to e-mail your state legislators and urge them to support the National Popular Vote bill.

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Because electoral votes are currently awarded to the candidate who gets the most popular votes inside each separate state, candidates don’t pay attention to issues of concern to voters in states where they are comfortably ahead or hopelessly behind. In 2008, candidates concentrated two-thirds of their campaign events and money in just six closely divided “battleground” states. They spent 98% of their time, money, and effort in just 15 states. Our state is a mere spectator in presidential elections. On the other hand, votes in our state would matter if the President were elected by a national popular vote because every vote would be equal.

The states have the constitutional authority to change the method of awarding electoral votes so as to establish a national popular vote for President. The National Popular Vote bill has already been enacted into law by Hawaii, Illinois, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Jersey, Washington state, and the District of Columbia. The bill has also been approved by at least one legislative house in 15 other states, and it recently passed the New York Senate 52-7. The bill has been endorsed by 2,011 state legislators around the country.

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wontbackdown 03.17.11 at 4:03 pm

Lest we forget:

Americans Voted For This Leader and Won. The Party Said, “So?”

She won the 2008 Primary Popular Vote, has since traveled 300,000 miles, handling crisis after crisis, fighting for World Peace, Human Rights and Women’s Rights – and commanding the respect of World Leaders and the average person alike. But “he” was Selected by a Political Party to… and has…

Read more: http://herlocaust.org/news/#ixzz1GtQ2brmB

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Zee 03.17.11 at 7:09 pm

Love everything that people are posting here. I soooo agree with HP…it is distressing me to see Lara’s face surrounded by these pricks, so if there is any way to get a new image up…please. Pretty pretty please.

Just to let west coast pumas know…I am leaving my house (extra rooms) open this summer if any need a refuge. Wish I could share more details here, and freddie…if you could connect with dances, goofs or anyone here who can connect you with me, I would love to hear from you. I have a person interested in financing one of my ideas and altho I’ve done similar things to your business, you obviously know more about running these independent style businesses so I would love to have your input on my venture…thanks.

So thinking about murphy daily…I think she knows we all are. Pumas! Kick in, stay strong!

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Headclunker 03.17.11 at 7:58 pm

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DancesWithPumas 03.17.11 at 8:08 pm

/rant

nevermind.

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DancesWithPumas 03.17.11 at 8:14 pm

Zee
Wish I could share more details here, and freddie…if you could connect with dances,
—————–
Forwarded your email address to Freddie.

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freddiebrown 03.17.11 at 8:40 pm

Zee – I didn’t get any email from DWP. You can email me at fred08puma@gmaildotcom

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Headclunker 03.17.11 at 8:56 pm

I do not want to forget Lara. The picture may be disturbing, but so is the issue. Here is a recent story:

New Details Emerge About Brutal Assault on CBS Reporter Lara Logan
Email
Written by steeves on Mar-1-11 10:12am
From: africanaonline.com

CBS’ chief foreign correspondent Lara Logan has not yet publicly addressed the brutal assault she experienced in Egypt while covering President Hosni Mubarak’s resignation over a week ago. However, new details are emerging of the horrific attack.

Lara Logan was covering the jubilant event on February 11th with her 60 Minutes crew in Tahrir Square. She was separated from her crew and security amidst the frenzy and attacked by a crowd of 200 men. According to the New York Post, Logan was stripped and beaten with poles. Reports reportedly reveal that the 39-year-old reporter was not only whipped by makeshift flagpoles but also kicked, punched, pinched and pulled by her hair during the celebration. The crowd also chanted “Jew, Jew, Jew” and accused her of being a spy. Though it shouldn’t matter at all, Logan is not Jewish or from Israel. She was born in South Africa and I don’t know or care what her religious beliefs are.

South Africa’s Independent Online reports that Logan told relatives in her native Durban, South Africa of her “darkest nightmare” reportedly saying, “The attack was so sudden, I had no chance of escaping.” Logan also reportedly told colleagues that a group of Egyptian women protected her from being raped by throwing themselves on top of her. Twenty soldiers then escorted her back to her hotel in Cairo.

A CBS News source says “It may be a while” before Lara returns to work, explaining, “Psychologically, obviously, she is suffering from this.”

Yet, despite the horrific attack that clearly traumatized Lara Logan, people are still unfairly critical of the reporter. Readers’ comments under stories about Logan are even more brutal than the actual attack, I am sure. Every justification under the sun has been used by readers desperate to cling to some reason why the attack on Logan was okay. It is frightening commentary on America’s view of women. It seems instead of progressing, women’s rights have been set back. It is clear that American lawmakers do not value women’s rights so it would make sense that Americans, in general, no longer value women’s rights.

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Headclunker 03.17.11 at 9:07 pm

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DancesWithPumas 03.17.11 at 9:14 pm

Freddie,
that’s one of the addresses I used to forward Zee’s email addy to you.

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Delle 03.17.11 at 9:25 pm

Here is more about the mega quake:

http://current.com/news/93070052_us-mega-quake-coming-warn-russian-scientists.htm

This time from Russia.

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FLBarbara 03.17.11 at 9:26 pm

Happy St Patrick’s Day NY is intoxicated tonight LOL
Checking in..thinking and praying you are all well.
Its been a tough couple of months for me I lost my mom, thanks for your thoughts and prayers and my dad.. Well he needs that as well.
I have been asked to go to Haiti or Jamaica to work in a girls school so torn between here and there but really need to move on and need some good thoughts to decide.
Wanted to share my favorite Irish toast with you all. The Irish do know how to toast.
Blessings PUMAS
Sláinte chuig na fir, agus go mairfidh na mná go deo!
(Health to the men and may the women live forever)
Blessings and Love to you All

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freddiebrown 03.17.11 at 9:31 pm

DWP – I checked again and got your email. Anyway, I think Zee has it now too. Thanks.

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BigCatLover 03.17.11 at 10:21 pm

I thought for sure we would hear from Murphy on St. Patrick’s Day, maybe even a new post. Guess not, but there’s still 40 minutes left so you never know.

The fact that we still haven’t heard from Lara Logan, a veteran reporter, is pretty telling.

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CJK2 03.17.11 at 11:14 pm

Waving to FLBarbara, and Happy St. Patty’s Day to all! (((((PUMAS)))))

Please see article at link for a different perspective on the “Popular Vote Bill.” (I remain committed to helping make BO a one-term POTUS, which means questioning/opposing anything that would make it easier for him to coast into another 4-year campout in the WH voting “present” as the country goes to ruin.)

http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2011/03/17/national-popular-vote/

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Delle 03.18.11 at 2:50 am

I don’t know how this move in Libya will turn out, but it is already being called ‘Hillary’s War’:

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0311/51515.html

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Zee 03.18.11 at 11:01 am

thanks, dances and freddiebrown….I sent a test hello, hope it reached the right place!

I made a little prototype today and taking it to a friend of mine who runs a shop. Fingers crossed…

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Delle 03.18.11 at 11:38 am

U.S. Approves First Floating Deepwater Storage In Gulf:

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/03/17/us-oil-floating-idUSTRE72G80K20110317

Petrobras is based in Brazil – site of obama’s next vacation!

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freddiebrown 03.18.11 at 12:30 pm

Zee – Y G M – you’ve got mail..

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DancesWithPumas 03.18.11 at 2:51 pm

God forbid a women mention reproductive organs or women sans penises… at twisty’s it means you are transphobic. No mention of trannies being biological women phobic. Nothing like ensuring women take a back seat to the menz… yet again.

Twisty sucks. Probably should rename herself Teste. Jill can become Dil.

Advanced Radical Feminist my ass. Her strategy against the patriarchy is grounded in the freakin’ seventies!

/rant

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Delle 03.18.11 at 3:26 pm

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Zee 03.18.11 at 4:12 pm

#311 delle … interesting…will look into that

#313 dances ::passing a cold compress:: ugh, I don’t even want to look.

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Headclunker 03.18.11 at 4:39 pm

#311 Delle,

I don’t suppose that production facility is going to be subject to US EPA air quality standards.

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Headclunker 03.18.11 at 4:48 pm

BARACK OBAMA: THE WEAKEST PRESIDENT IN HISTORY?

Friday March 18,2011
By Anna Pukas

INEFFECTUAL, invisible, unable to honour pledges and now blamed for letting Gaddafi off the hook. Why Obama’s gone from ‘Yes we can’ to ‘Er, maybe we shouldn’t’…

Read more: http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/235196/Barack-Obama-The-Weakest-President-in-history-Barack-Obama-The-Weakest-President-in-history-#ixzz1GzSJmFqY

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goofsmom 03.18.11 at 5:22 pm

Headclunker,

You beat me to it… I was going to post that article too. Good thing I looked 1st. :grin:

Dances,

Rant on!!

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DancesWithPumas 03.18.11 at 6:39 pm

Zee
It’s like a tran wreck over there.
Imagine being African American on an Afro-centric blog and having your race renamed by some Caucasian guests who “feel” black?
Imagine being black and having the blog host shut you down because you don’t accept your white (who feels or identifies as black) oppressor’s insertion of himself into your group or class, but vociferously insists you’d accept him as cis-African-American.
I don’t care if they don’t have one between their legs, it remains in their minds as evidenced by their obnoxious sense of entitlement, no matter how many times they darken their skin.
Schmucks.

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goofsmom 03.18.11 at 6:45 pm

Dances,

#319 – WOW! Well said and explained. That was an excellent example.

I haven’t been back to Twisty’s in a while for the same reason you have stated above. Lousy women wanna be poseurs!

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freddiebrown 03.18.11 at 7:09 pm

OK – I am reading a CNN online article about this “prominent” New Hampshire Republican who says that Palin inability to win if she is the Republican nominee and that would pave a clear path to Obama’s re-election.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/03/14/palin-has-path-to-win-republican-warns/

My question to a skeleton Puma diehards here :
If, just IF, you must vote these two choices – Palin or Obama, which would you vote ? Please don’t say you won’t because this is Friday night pretend time. You must vote one or the other. P or O ? PLEASE PLAY !!!

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freddiebrown 03.18.11 at 7:14 pm

I vote P

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goofsmom 03.18.11 at 7:23 pm

Hi Freddie,

In honor of Friday night pretend time, I would have to say P.

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freddiebrown 03.18.11 at 7:30 pm

Thanks Goofsmom!

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Casper Cat 03.18.11 at 7:58 pm

ok I am in…. First, on my death bed I would NEVER EVER EVER EVER cast a Vote for that lyingsicktwistedpieceofshitparasitebo…. NEVER…. I would vote Palin…. Hey, I already have…in 2008… So, one more time really is NO problem…. been on jury duty and in a trial… so, catching up is hard to do…. :wink: :smile: Hope everyone had a green and fun St. Patty’s day…. :smile:

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Headclunker 03.18.11 at 8:21 pm

NOMAMA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The Tea Party Sucks, but I would vote Palin.

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stoney42 03.18.11 at 8:36 pm

I vote P.

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CJK2 03.18.11 at 8:53 pm

Definitely P. After everything BO has done to destroy the party formerly known as Democratic (which had my vote for nearly 40 years), and after everything he’s done to destroy the country I love, no way could I ever vote for him or for anyone who supports him, under any circumstances. Thanks, freddiebrown!

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HP Boston 03.18.11 at 9:48 pm

What CJK2 said…………ditto!

Hiya Casper.

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CJK2 03.18.11 at 10:33 pm

Hi, HP! (((((HP)))))

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Casper Cat 03.18.11 at 10:55 pm

Hey HP. Great to see you too. Wishing you the very best always

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Casper Cat 03.18.11 at 10:59 pm

Sorry. I am on my iPhone and things just do not move as fast. Hope our Murphy is ok. I do wish her and her family the very best.

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DancesWithPumas 03.19.11 at 12:38 am

ROAD TRIP!!
Just one state over but still…
and the moon is gorgeous with a minimum of light pollution here in the desert.
‘night.
:-)

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CatBalu 03.19.11 at 3:39 am

Like it has been said, I already voted for Palin. Would do it again.

I know I am late to rant about this, but I broke down and watched a snippet of Bill Maher a couple of weeks ago, even though I swore never again to give him an iota of ratings because my “heroine” (or so I thought) Gloria Steinem was on. He went into New Rules and asked why it is ok for Newt to leave his wife who had cancer, while John Edwards did the same thing and is now the most hated man in America. He went on to say that Edwards couldn’t be elected dog catcher now. Then smugly added somthing like, “but it has been proven he can catch dogs” whereupon a picture of Reille Hunter appeared. AND GLORIA STEINEM JUST SAT THERE. WTF is going on in this country and with feminism? I guess after what they did NOT do for Hillary, I shouldn’t be surprised, but everything I once believed in is gone. Up is down, black is white, right is left. I can’t say I want my old party back because thinking that they actually gave a rat’s ass about feminism was just an illusion. Maybe I want my old illusions back so I can feel normal again.

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Delle 03.19.11 at 6:17 am

Without any hesitation I can tell you that I’d vote for Sarah. I wouldn’t vote for obama for anything in the world!

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Delle 03.19.11 at 7:14 am

Molotov Cocktails, Rubber Bullets to Greet Obama in Brazil:

http://weaselzippers.us/2011/03/18/molotov-cocktails-rubber-bullets-to-greet-obama-in-brazil/#comments

Now we know why his speech had to be cancelled. We won’t see this on the media!

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DancesWithPumas 03.19.11 at 10:00 am

yttik has been officially banned from Twisted’s.
One of the few outspoken radical feminist women who commented there.
If anyone knows if she has her own blog or where she hangs out, I’d like to know.
Banned because she said she wanted a real revolution rather than piddling around with not wearing lipstick and uncomfortable shoes (my words) and because she referred to who were born female.

WTF?
The M2T / the patriarchy wins again.

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DancesWithPumas 03.19.11 at 10:04 am

Savage Death Island = Women’s Death Island.
Twisted sux.

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Delle 03.19.11 at 12:55 pm

Obama’s Women Pushed War:

http://www.thenation.com/blog/159346/obamas-women-pushed-war-against-libya

FTA – “Unless Obama’s better instincts manage to reign in his warrior women . . . . the U.S. could find itself in open war in Libya”.

It sounds to me like they are already taking away the blame from obama for any disaster that happens over there and placing it instead on his warrior women!

An extremely sexist point of view!

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Zee 03.19.11 at 1:47 pm

Dances, yttik often posts at TGW if you want to reach her….I so seldom make the rounds these days, but I assume she’s still there. It’s nose above water days, just a perfect storm, of both good and bad…

regarding the vote thing…I’ll be voting in the primary if someone challenges Zero. I would love to draft a candidate!! I am keeping my mind open to vote independent or green in the general election.

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CJK2 03.19.11 at 2:13 pm

Dances, #337, I somehow thought yttik was at Uppity’s place. Not sure. Haven’t really followed what’s going on at Twisty’s, but did scan through comments at one point, and I agree with your concerns.

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Zee 03.19.11 at 2:39 pm

omg…I had no idea, and now I’m extremely demoralized. Darn you, dances!!

I went over to twisty’s. Couldn’t she just leave it at describing and denouncing men’s belittlement of women/feminimity instead of denouncing it herself?

“The practice of femininity impedes the revolution.

“This idea often chaps the hide of novice blamers. This is because they don’t fully appreciate the hideous essence of femininity. Some of them believe that the practice of femininity is but one facet of an exciting smorgasbord…”

Um, yes. I would believe that smorgasbord is the idea, not the problem.

And her little litmus test, of whether Laurence Fishborne would look “ridiculous” doing it, seems to me the opposite of what we should strive for.

When I was a wee lass I came up with the opposite litmus test: that men should be as free to wear mascara and lipstick as a woman. One of my most brilliant, but sadly departed friends, wore a men’s suit…with high heels…as his go-to look.

wth…twisty may be describing reality, but hardly the solution.

yttik is far closer: who knows if surgical solutions are the result of the deprecation of the feminine expression?

And it makes no sense to defend transgendered but diss feminity. I know straight men who love chocolate and eschew good old boy garb such as ball caps, polo shirts, military looks or whatever.

wtf is with this litmus test with Laurence Fishburne? I might be tempted to chop my female bits off if the “norm” were I had to dress/act/look like Fishburne. What would be the point?

So, I may be a “novice blamer” but my instinct…oops, feminine intuition…would be to say, “thanks for shemansplaining it.”

Maybe she thinks an overcorrection is the only solution…and it may be a necessary step to acceptance…but any acceptance that doesn’t include a smorgasbord is going to be just as bad as the extremes. It would be extreme in itself.

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Zee 03.19.11 at 2:41 pm

“hideous essence of femininity” really???!

I think there is room in the spectrum for femininity to be embraced and not belittled…

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Zee 03.19.11 at 2:45 pm

First military strike in Libya, by the French.

Gee, Laurence Fishburne would not look “ridiculous” blowing up military tanks by airstrike. So it goes.

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goofsmom 03.19.11 at 3:35 pm

Zee,

#344 – Just read that we – the US just started firing our missiles on Libya. There are so many things wrong with this situation, I just don’t know where to start!!

Why isn’t the UN making up a coalition of countries to protect the citizens of the Ivory Coast? They had a free election and ousted their leader. He won’t leave and is killing people freely with no outrage. Why does the UN allow this? well lets see, what resources come from there? Sigh, it is just freakin awful. :evil:

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goofsmom 03.19.11 at 3:38 pm

Sorry, was so pissed that I forgot to link the story..

US begins assault against Libyan air defenses

WASHINGTON – The U.S. military attacked Moammar Gadhafi’s air defenses Saturday with strikes along the Libyan coast that were launched by Navy vessels in the Mediterranean.

A senior military official said the assault would unfold in stages and target air defense installations around Tripoli, the capital, and a coastal area south of Benghazi. That’s the rebel stronghold under attack by Moammar Gadhafi’s forces.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_us_libya

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Delle 03.19.11 at 3:43 pm

The Obama Regime is in direct violation of the Constitution and the War Powers Act. No consultation or request from Congress for a Declaration of War against Libya.

Articles of Impeachment for Treasonous offence must be drawn up and introduced in the House of Represenatatives IMMEDIATELY!!!

And his Nobel Peace Prize must be immediately recinded!

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Zee 03.19.11 at 3:53 pm

Did anyone see that they are trying to blame this on Hillary and said she “pressured” Obama and that they are calling it Hillary’s War??

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goofsmom 03.19.11 at 4:07 pm

Zee,

Yep, Delle posting link to one of the many articles blaming HRC. They had to blame her because BO is such a wimp.

112 cruise missiles launched by US and UK on Libya. :twisted:

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Zee 03.19.11 at 5:42 pm

BO is down in Brazil…

btw, I had the sound turned off but I went to look at the TV news.

I have to say, Hillary looks fantastic. I mean, beyond. She at least must be decided in her role, however she sees it…she does NOT look stressed.

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Zee 03.19.11 at 6:30 pm

#334 cat balu

“He went on to say that Edwards couldn’t be elected dog catcher now. Then smugly added somthing like, “but it has been proven he can catch dogs” whereupon a picture of Reille Hunter appeared. AND GLORIA STEINEM JUST SAT THERE. WTF is going on in this country and with feminism?”

omfg, that is so infuritating!

Thanks for that catch.

The assholes over at Newser are having their usual “progressive” vs “conservative” pissing contest, and regarding that girl who posted a rant about Asisans yakking on their cell phones this is the argument: she’s an attractive blonde (conservatives) vs “if you like chunky” (so-called progressives)

Meanwhile…I’m trying not to hyperventilate over an asshole at Cannonfire who says that Lara’s rape and mauling was an anti-Arab “myth.”

And this from a “progressive” freak from the Kucinich and Helen “I hate the Jews” Thomas ilk.

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freddiebrown 03.19.11 at 7:55 pm

I am not the smartest cookie in the jar but the last few days have
seen gas where I am at $4 / gallon. Am I the only one thinking this equation ?

$4 gas = war on Libya

Is this being waged on Libya all of a sudden because UN cares about the Libyans?

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Delle 03.19.11 at 8:17 pm

Get your mind off all the world problems for a few minutes and go outside and take a look at the super full moon.

Watch your eyes though. It is very, very bright.

Wow!

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stoney42 03.19.11 at 8:44 pm

Delle

I just came in from looking at the moon. It is Beautiful!!

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Headclunker 03.19.11 at 10:38 pm

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Delle 03.20.11 at 3:44 am

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Delle 03.20.11 at 5:50 am

Anti-war democrats object to “Operation Odyssey Dawn”

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0311/51595.html

I am so glad they are speaking out.

BTW – what a ridiculous name for a war!

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Delle 03.20.11 at 9:03 am

I think I have finally found someone who is happy with obama.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/businesslatestnews/8393292/Obama-says-US-to-be-major-purchaser-of-Brazilian-oil.html

Considering the fact that he recently invested nearly $1 billion in Brazilian oil, Soros must surely be delighted with his puppet.

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freddiebrown 03.20.11 at 12:42 pm

Delle – Thanks for the links. Surprising that I get what Farrakhan has to say and he is not all wrong this time. Obama rubs shoulders on ESPN, then oops, his staff probably told him he should come out and offer some condolence to Japan since he has the time of day for ESPN. Then he declares a “UN” war on Libya and jaunts off to Brazil with his family. All in one fell swoop. Which ever comes first, who cares. The American people are still in a love stupor, they don’know better.

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goofsmom 03.20.11 at 4:34 pm

With everything else going on in the world today, I’m not surprised this news story was missed. I refuse to post links because it is so infuriating.

It is maddening to me that there has not been any outrage from all the national womens groups.

Bill Maher called Palin a “dumb tw@t”. I have been watching and not a peep from all the women’s groups. I don’t like the Tea Party and I disagree with Palin on quite a few topics but the outright hatred and denigration of women by so call “news” pundits it outrageous. I don’t care which side of the political aisle the women is on. This nonsense has to stop!!!

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freddiebrown 03.20.11 at 4:49 pm

I agree Goofmom. I think all the women’s groups are just there for show.I would like to know what they get out of being head of these organisations. Clearly they are ineffective and clearly they have outlived their usefulness and new blood brought in. People who clearly know the reason why they are there and who they represent. I am not sure why there aren’t more new faces speaking out for women – do we want so badly to be one of the boys ? What does it take? We need someone like Bill Maher to turn around and call out Dumb Dick ! If we have that someone in our midst, all of us should donate towards forming a women’s movement of our own. Send out press releases, stand in town squares and shout it out till the media pays attention. Anyone out there that needs a job ?

Palin is in India on a speaking engagement and reading all the horrific posts at the end of her interview on CNN.com yesterday, many are still filled to the brim with hate.

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goofsmom 03.20.11 at 5:26 pm

Freddie,

#361 – I don’t think turning around and calling them dumb dicks is the answer. That’s stooping to their level. We have to show them that we are better than them and that is why a civil society can not exist without respect.

I agree that there is a great need for a women’s movement that is not politically or religious based or biased. All of the Women’s groups are motivated by a need to have power in the political spectrum, we don’t need that. What we really need is a positive, supportive and motivational women’s movement. One that really shows a way forward for women whatever their upbringing.

The acceptance of words like Mahers shows how women in society as a whole have low self esteem. Then when the Women’s groups show a ‘meh’ attitude, well the women that follow or accept them as leaders think it is okay too.

I don’t think we need to get the MSM’s attention, they are a lost cause, we need to create our own media, that shames them into finally getting with the program.

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Delle 03.20.11 at 5:46 pm

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CJK2 03.20.11 at 9:56 pm

Hi freddiebrown and goofs! Some thoughts re 360, 61, 62…
Bill Maher is certainly no rocket scientist. His main claim to fame as a comedian has been his discovery long ago that he could easily get a few laughs from the leftist elites simply by bashing conservatives of any flavor. (IMO, like BO, he’s a narcissistic, opportunistic, self-absorbed libertine, certainly not really a follower of the party formerly known as Democratic). A non-vulgar retort to his attack against Sarah Palin might be to call him a “tiny twisted twit” (what is he anyway, maybe 4′ 10′ +/- standing on platform shoes?). The lack of response from the old-guard women’s groups to his remark (or any of the other horrific attacks against Palin) is no surprise, given those groups’ slobbering support for BO and his agenda. Like Maher, BO and the Obamacrats, those old-guard women’s groups are also leftist elites who certainly won’t support any woman’s success unless she’s part of their club. Palin represents everything for which genuine women’s rights activists have long struggled (self-determination in all aspects of life), yet the old-guard women’s groups can’t see it; or perhaps do see it, but can’t stand her anyway because she’s never subscribed to their woman-as-perpetual-victim-so-stay-on-the-leftist-plantation-and-keep-sending-us-your-donations viewpoint. Sarah Palin certainly doesn’t suffer from low self-esteem, and certainly doesn’t need those groups’ or anyone else’s permission to be who she is. She refuses to succumb to the patriarchy’s braying for her to “sit down and shut up.” She continues to stand tall and proud, and to speak out with enormous common sense, clarity, courage, conviction and intelligence as well as political savvy. Moreover, she does so in large part because she’s devoted to being a true servant of the people. The MSM (or, as Sarah calls them, the LameStream Media, LSM) can’t stand her because she doesn’t play by their leftist elite rules for women. As we well know, every time anyone has disagreed with BO, the Obamacrats and LSM have summarily dismissed those people as ‘racist,’ refusing to even entertain the possibility that BO’s qualifications or decisions/policies are subject to question. So, here’s an idea. Every time anyone attacks Sarah Palin or HRC or other women in public life, instead of wasting time analyzing their words or wringing our hands and foolishly rounding up the usual so-called “women’s weakness” suspects (good grief!), why not launch a massive blog and email campaign focused on calling the attacker of the moment something like “misogynistic, sexist, knuckle-dragging neanderthal”? If this is done often enough, it just might eventually become a “knee-jerk” response to such attacks. At any rate, it works for me. I’ll start with emails to CNN, HBO, MSNBC, PETA, and any other entity I can find even remotely associated with little man Maher (the stupid putz…oops…that won’t be part of the emails…).

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CJK2 03.20.11 at 10:43 pm

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CJK2 03.20.11 at 10:47 pm

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freddiebrown 03.21.11 at 4:11 am

CJK2 – Thoroughly enjoyed your comment on #364 – SO TRUE. Thanks for sharing.
I think any email campaign we do will be on our own as we seem to have lost a leader here.

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DancesWithPumas 03.21.11 at 9:43 am

I think any email campaign we do will be on our own
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as it should be, imo.

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Zee 03.21.11 at 12:46 pm

“I don’t think turning around and calling them dumb dicks is the answer. That’s stooping to their level.”

Awwwwww, where is HP when I need her?

I say calling them shriveldicks is more like…..taste of their own medicine!

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Zee 03.21.11 at 12:52 pm

I just popped by to share our puma-brother’s article skewering the Hillary-bashers. They are really working overtime to fit Hillary in the narrative as the evil one, and poor poor Zero as the hapless one.

Jamaal really hit it out of the park with his response to that….and he has an excellent catch: Odimwit the bungler-in-chief even made a JOKE last week about Hillary hollering for attention on the Libyan situation! Gee, hahaha, that silly little woman, playing SOS, was really getting strident….grrrrrrrrr…..

http://www.examiner.com/post-partisan-in-national/andrew-sullivan-is-a-clinton-hating-idiot?CID=examiner_alerts_article

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HP Boston 03.21.11 at 2:13 pm

Ya Zee poor, poor, limpdick, peckerhead Ozero….he should pee in his shoes!!
It is time he WOMAnS UP! and he can never reach the class and staure of a true leader. Hillary makes that dingleberry of a dimwited, insipid, hapless worm look like the mistake he is!!!!

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HP Boston 03.21.11 at 2:42 pm

CJK2 NO ONE will ever get a chance to vote for Palin…even Fox is dropping bombs on her daily. Listen very closely and you will hear the tide turning, so not subtly either. Hillary was blocked and Palin will be also….the menz will never change!
Peckerheads one and all, with balls bigger than their brains. I will never vote for any peckerhead again, thus I will likely not vote!

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theamericanway 03.21.11 at 2:46 pm

A site to check: http://www.nwhm.org/

According to info I’ve received, President Clinton set up a national commission on Women’s History, and one of its main recommendations was to build a National Women’s History Museum (NWHM). While Senator, Hillary Clinton strongly supported NWHM both as one of its Honorary Board members and as a co-sponsor on legislation to enable a permanent site for it adjacent to the National Mall.

Congress recently passed legislation allowing NWHM to purchase that federal land, but no taxpayer dollars will be used for the actual construction. The group is hoping to raise $27.5 million privately, and for minimum donations of $25, a charter membership is offered.

This group was founded in 1996 and is the non-profit which pushed legislation to move the Suffrage Statue (The Portrait Monument) that sat in the basement of the Capitol for 76 years to its rightful place in the Rotunda.

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HP Boston 03.21.11 at 3:17 pm

theamericanway
I recieved a letter from Meryl Streep seeking donations….mine is on the kitchen table ready to mail. I being a taxpayer find it urgent to spend my taxed dollars on the NWHM.

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Headclunker 03.21.11 at 4:23 pm

Here is an interesting little blog I came across:

Egypt’s March to a True Democracy
http://igmaaallc.wordpress.com/

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CJK2 03.21.11 at 4:39 pm

freddiebrown, #367, thank you! Yes, any email campaign would be entirely a matter of individual choice. My thoughts were identified and intended as exactly that…my thoughts. I will, on my own, email as indicated in my comment. BTW, I don’t believe we’ve lost a leader here; I believe she is simply on hiatus.

HP, #372, I realize that the LSM is doing all it can to discourage Sarah Palin from a 2012 run. Even if she doesn’t run, however, I believe she will continue to be a strong spokesperson for the people, and to contribute significantly to our national discourse.

(((((PUMAs)))))

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DancesWithPumas 03.21.11 at 5:40 pm

Zee
Absolutely. Treat them as they treat women.
There used to be a group in SFO… whenever a lesbian reported that some creep had harrassed her, the group/posse would show up at his home/work/hangout and surround him. Then while they had his undivided attention, they’d read him the riot act.
Had to be great fun to watch grown men pee their pants while surrounded by 10 or 15 angry dykes!

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gordana 03.21.11 at 7:36 pm

On the lighter side of life, this should at least bring a smile to your face…..

Medical Miracles

An Israeli doctor says “Medicine in my country is so advanced that we can take a kidney out of one man, put it in another, and have him looking for work in six weeks.”

A German doctor says “That is nothing, we can take a lung out of one person, put it in another, and have him looking for work in four weeks.

A Russian doctor says “In my country, medicine is so advanced that we can take half a heart out of one person, put it in another, and have them both looking for work in two weeks.”

The Chicago doctor, not to be outdone, says “You guys are way behind, we recently took a man with no brain out of KENYA, put him in the White House, and now half the country is looking for work.”

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Delle 03.22.11 at 11:12 am

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TerryDo 03.22.11 at 11:16 am

Hi Pumas

I come everyday to read your comments but have not commented of late.

I especially miss our Murphy and hope she is doing well and I was quite surprised Murphy did not havea tribute to St. Pat’s holiday. God Bless the Irish and Italians because Italians claim that is where St. Patrick came from… :)

I have a comment about Bill Maher and his insult to all women but expecially targeted at Sarah Palin. I am actually looking for an email address to the NOW president to give her a piece of my mind but not standing up for all women. At least that is what I thouhgt NOW was suppose to be all about and whom they are suppose to represent, all women.

Bill Maher, the cuckoo opened up a “comedy” session with… “Talking about Tw**s, do you hear what Sarah Palin….

And I might add that CNN is no better than Maher because they constantly have him on as a guest, trying to enhance his public persona and his HBO specials.

The first thing Maher should remember is his mother from whence he was dropped into the world. Calling all women Tw**ts, that he disagrees with is the most cowardly way to handle his frustration. As intellectual debaters know, the minute you bring cuss words, swearing and denigrating words into a debate you have lost.

But the fact that he has a platform to spout his hatred and disrespectful name calling is what grates me, and as far as I am concerned calling a woman the T-word is far worse than calling a black person the N-word because over 50% of the world population are women and that word and others of its ilk is an insult to each and every one of them.
Maher is a typical misogynist, who from the time he was rejected by a beautiful teenage girl began his life with a “sour grapes complex”. When one can’t have something or someone one desire, (a beautiful teenage girl and then a wondrous woman) one denigrates it and proclaims it to be beneath oneself. And that is Maher in a nutshell because that is where small nuts belong.

And the “Women Group” and especially NOW, who do not come out to defend Sarah Palin or any other female, whom the likes of Maher has defamed is not worthy of the title WOMEN’S MOVEMENT.

The women’s movement, we so called feminists were for all women, regarded of race, color or creed and not for the keeping down of women with a different Political point of view.

These women groups are a disgrace and they should be disbanded and most of all,they should remember this little powerful poem.
“First they came…” – Pastor Martin Niemoller

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Zee 03.22.11 at 12:19 pm

Hi Terry Do,

Is that something you wrote, or is it a chain mail?

If you yourself wrote it I highly suggest you send it to NOW, in the forum where they invite women to report candidates for their media hall of shame:

http://www.now.org/issues/media/hall-of-shame/suggestion.html

There is absolutely no reason to turn Maher’s reprehensible REPEAT sleaziness into a reason to bash NOW, and especially NOW President Terry ONeil, who has been doing an excellent job, and who alone stood up and said we should throw Obamacare in the trash and start over, because of the unfair treatment of women. A fight that NOW is continuing, big time. The government’s war on women is all over their front page.

I think we should all compose letters to submit to NOW at the link above, for their media hall of shame. As much as I detest Rielle, I think we should include the example CatBalu gave us above, along with the tw@t remark and maybe even others he’s made.

I know Fox News is trying to make “NOW refuses to condemn Maher” the story, but let’s keep the story where it belongs, on Maher, instead of participating in more woman-bashing. NOW provides a channel by which to shame the media, let’s use that to lay out the reasons why Maher belongs front and center in the hall of shame. I’m going to see if I can dig up some more of his typical pig comments…

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Zee 03.22.11 at 12:24 pm

#377 dances….dang…I wish “reading the riot act” was more of a social norm!

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TerryDo 03.22.11 at 1:16 pm

Hi Zee

No, my simple rant is not a chain letter, what an odd question to ask.
I had imagined that NOW sort of represented the voices of all women in America and should be outraged whenever personalities such a Maher puts down women, by verbally bullying them with sexist remarks and name calling.
Thank you for the email address and I shall send a note to NOW President Terry O’Neil with my remarks.
I also think that the story is also on NOW; either they have the power and their words mean something or they are just another women’s social club. And until we stop seeing women as Conservative, Liberal or Tea Party members, we will always have the mentality of our side verses their side, and thus we can support losers like Maher running women down.
The world, as they say is going to hell in a basket and when the likes of Maher can call any woman whatever he fancies and get away with it, just because he is a “comedian” and is protected because he spoke such outrageous comments on a pay for view TV show. To me it is almost the equivalent of calling a woman a whore to her face because she is in a night club and that is the way they speak in night clubs.

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TerryDo 03.22.11 at 1:44 pm

Zee, my personal view of NOW is that they are a special interest club, factious and do not follow the original Statement of Purpose as listed below.

Statement of Purpose
Betty Friedan and Pauli Murray wrote the organization’s Statement of Purpose[6] in 1966 (the original was scribbled on a napkin by Friedan). The statement described the purpose of NOW as “[T]o take action to bring women into full participation in the mainstream of American society now, exercising all privileges and responsibilities thereof in truly equal partnership with men.”
The current membership brochure paraphrases and expands upon the above excerpt to read: “Our purpose is to take action to bring women into full participation in society—sharing equal rights, responsibilities and opportunities with men, while living free from discrimination.” This brochure also states: “NOW is one of the few multi-issue progressive organizations in the United States. NOW stands against all oppression, recognizing that racism, sexism and homophobia are interrelated, that other forms of oppression such as classism and ableism work together with these three to keep power and privilege concentrated in the hands of a few.”[7]

****************************
But what does NOW stand for today?
This is what NOW is today a Democratic Liberal supporter and thus does not represent all women but all Democratic women and the Democratic Ideology, and thus ipso facto they no longer support the founders original Statement of Purpose.

NOW HISTORY TIMELINE: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Organization_for_Women
On September 16, NOW endorses Barack Obama for president. NOW had originally endorsed Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton for president during the Democratic Party Primary. NOW also made it known that they would not support Sarah Palin, the running mate of Obama’s Republican counterpart, John McCain.

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CJK2 03.22.11 at 2:02 pm

Terry Do, welcome back! Enjoyed your comments at #380 and #383 and agree.

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CJK2 03.22.11 at 2:05 pm

Same for #384, which was posted as I was posting #385!

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Zee 03.22.11 at 2:29 pm

That’s nice, Terry Do, and so why are you making yet another sexist rant by nonstop misogynist Maher about NOW and about politics? That’s what I found odd and looked into.

I did a little digging. He hurled numerous slurs against Hillary, including referencing her vagina as “cunt” on air, and even attacked the former NOW president for daring to include Hillary’s run for president as historic as Barack’s. If NOW didn’t make those into issues, then they are not, as you suggest, leaving Palin out in some selective way.

I also saw this line of thought originated with Fox News, who is making Maher’s comments into a criticism of NOW, of all things. So it is not so odd that I would wonder if this CAMPAIGN against NOW, in response to a man’s nonstop piggery, was also being email-bombed as well as blared on Fox News.

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Zee 03.22.11 at 2:38 pm

So, I repeat. It’s a great idea to email NOW with a long list of reasons why Maher should be featured in their media hall of shame. It’s a BAD idea to call out Terry O’Neil, who has been fantastic, or NOW in general, because they are probably strapped to the max fighting Boehner, who is spending his time following the CARDINALS marching orders to crotch-sniff every woman in the US ans have the IRS pry into whether they were “forcibly” raped before they get a dime for abortion…and even piling on tax penalties if someone has PRIVATE insurance that covers abortion!

We don’t need NOW to follow every single utterance by the assclowns on TV when our house is burning down with a government’s war on women that they ARE fighting.

And we don’t need to march to Fox’s war on NOW in response to a PIG’s piggery.

We can, all by ourselves, run a campaign to induct Maher into NOW’s Hall of Shame. I will post a few choice tidbits I found, and include those mentioned by PUMAs above, and we can send our own emails to

http://www.now.org/issues/media/hall-of-shame/suggestion.html

Let’s stick to blaming MAHER not NOW, as this has nothing to do with Sarah being singled out by them, which she wasn’t. BNT.

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Zee 03.22.11 at 2:57 pm

OK, passing out the barf bags….have them handy for Maher’s vileness….

March 2011
Most recently, Maher refered to Sarah Palin as a “dumb twat” and made a sexist pig joke about John Edwards not being able now to be elected as a dog catcher even tho he showed he could catch a “dog” (pictured, Rielle Hunter)

2010

Maher has zero women writers

http://womenandhollywood.com/2010/07/08/me-thinks-they-doth-protest-too-much/

2008

Even without ANY writers, Maher is still a pig

http://guerillawomentn.blogspot.com/2008/01/without-writers-bill-maher-is-still.html

Bill Maher returned to HBO last night sans writers, but somehow the lefty comic managed to continue his habit of spewing sexist venom. Maher ‘joked’ that Senator Hillary Clinton went to a strip club with a band of reporters and then our first viable woman presidential candidate proceeded to do a pole dance.

2009

What’s lower than a Republican in Maher’s eyes? Dressing like a woman. One mere rung above apes playing with feces. (Yes, I hate Beck, too, but would not use cross-dressing to explain why.)

http://shakespearessister.blogspot.com/2009/10/breaking-news-bill-maher-is.html

“He’s a bimbo. And he’s a crazy one. I’m telling you, it is not that long before we’re gonna find Glenn Beck dressed as a woman or playing with his feces.”

2008

Hillary’s hair, whininess and/or witchiness

http://www.talkleft.com/story/2008/3/2/83236/46536

Feb 2008, putting then-NOW president in her place for daring to suggest Hillary’s run for the presidency was as historic as Barrack’s

Mar 2008….hosting yet ANOTHER all-male panel on whether or not the media was sexist in the 2008 election

http://guerillawomentn.blogspot.com/2008/03/hillary-sexism-watch-bill-maher-and-his.html

A few weeks ago (2/1), Kim Gandy of NOW was a guest on Real Time, and she said that never in her lifetime did she think she would ever see a woman and an African-American man as the front runners for a major party nomination.

Bill then interrupted and said sorry, women have suffered, but not as much as black people. He was incensed, as though he were trying to put her in her “place” for making any reference at all to the historic significance of Hillary’s candidacy. His attitude was “don’t even go there.” He was very threatened by what she said.

Feb. 2008

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gyg31Wf18yc

“They fined CBS a million dollars for Janet Jackson’s nipple….think what they could get for Hillary Clinton’s cunt.”

2007

Bill Maher hates tits, nipple, cunts not subservient to him. No “cunts” allowed to run for president, and unbelievably….no “tits” feeding babies!!!

http://www.unapologeticallyfemale.com/2007/09/bill-maher-hates-you-along-with-all.html

“I never thought I’d be the one to say this – but DON’T show me your tits! …..breastfeeding activists say this is a human right and appropriate everywhere, because it’s natural. Well, so is masturbating, but I generally don’t do that at Applebee’s.

“Only in America do women think they deserve a medal for having a kid. In China women give birth on their lunch hour and that afternoon they’re back on line painting lead onto Barbie dolls….And by the way, there is a place where breasts and food do go together. It’s called Hooters! “

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Zee 03.22.11 at 3:02 pm

oh….maybe it was the seven links instead of the actual words of Maher I quoted that put my comments in moderation.

Well, in case they get out of moderation, here are some good news links as opposed to vile Maher links, for those wanting to read about some in the media…or arts, actually…who are trying to speak up for women:

http://insidetv.ew.com/2011/01/07/wonder-woman-tv-show/

kudos to david e. kelly for trying…. networks are passing on his script for an updated Wonder Woman

He does have a new lawyer show on Mondays….Harry’s Law starring Kathy Bates.

EXCELLENT must-read blast from the past by Erica Jong

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/erica-jong/misogyny-momism-and-milit_b_96062.html

little excerpt to get you started:

Elton John recently expressed surprise at the misogyny of the American media as it relates to Hillary Clinton. I have been stunned by it — especially the random physical put-downs that are everywhere. Matt Taibbi* refers to “flabby arms” in his latest Hillary obit. Who cares? I want to ask. But apparently Mr. Taibbi does. (And how would he know? Hillary is always encased in a blazer).

Physical mockery ended in seventh grade, I thought — but apparently not where women pols are concerned. I find it bizarre that a grown man would invoke a physical put-down in an opinion piece. It smacks of a complex of some sort.

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Headclunker 03.22.11 at 7:03 pm

Hello TerryDo!

I have been lurking more than posting because I have to study for a professional exam on April 8 (all prayers welcome). I have to be able to do 80 engineering problems in 8 hours. Anybody what to guess what percentage of the examinees will be women?

HillaryIs44 has been quite pithy these days, with the latest post about BO, his daddy and his son.
http://www.hillaryis44.org/2011/03/22/it-finally-happens-obama-finds-a-daddy-while-awol-south-american-way/

And I wonder what Hillary is doing these days. Maybe it has something to do with the departure of some sick freaks from their dictatorships.

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goofsmom 03.22.11 at 7:37 pm

Hi TerryDo!

Headclunker,
I believe in you, you will pass the exam. I will still say those prayers for you too. ;)

Zee,
IMHO, it’s not just NOW, it’s all the so called Womens organizations that sit on their hands. If it’s not the focus of NOW because they are fighting Boehner, then what is the excuse of the rest of the Women’s organizations?

The misogyny has to stop, from Boehner to Maher and everyone in between.

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TerryDo 03.22.11 at 10:37 pm

Hey yourselves CJK2,Headclunker and goofsmom!

Headclunker I will keep you in my prayers and I find it interesting how the number 8 shows up for this important occasion in your life.

Day #8… Hours 8… Problems 80

I hope 8 is a lucky number for you Headclunker. I would guess 4% of women will be taking the professional engineering examine.

And I am sure you will pass easily, and now that every Puma will be keeping their good thoughts for you on April 8th,
please lets us know how successful you were when you get your results back.

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Zee 03.23.11 at 12:04 am

Terry Do, speaking of engineering…my son and I went to a science lecture last night. We were both so annoyed at the Q&A, all men, all irrelevant questioning. We need more women in the mix.

Regarding NOW, my point was that they, alone, are fair and ought to be treated as such. iow, NOW equally blasted both Obama and the current Republican majority for undercutting women’s reproductive rights.

They also equally ignored both Hillary-bashing and Sarah-bashing by the idiot blowhards on TV. And yet, they do have a venue by which we can complain and bring focus.

We should do so by making a string case against the pig Maher. There is no call or need to lecture NOW on their mission.

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Zee 03.23.11 at 12:05 am

er, strong case, not string case!!

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Delle 03.23.11 at 5:50 am

I suppose some of you have seen this transcript already, but it’s worth another look.

http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2011/03/didnt-fdr-execute-people-for-doing-what.html

FDR actually had people executed for this type of treason. The democrats sure have changed since then. That’s not to say that the republicans are any better.

I believe that we are screwed!

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theamericanway 03.23.11 at 6:32 am

Headclunker, here’s another prayer for the recognition you seek and deserve to have.

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DancesWithPumas 03.23.11 at 9:02 am

The National Organization for Women finally stepped up Tuesday to slam Bill Maher for calling Sarah Palin a female vulgarism after first declining to comment on the matter.

A NOW rep told FOXNews.com early Tuesday it was a “known fact” that NOW does not correspond with FOX News after being contacted for comment regarding Bill Maher’s statement on his HBO show Friday that Sarah Palin was a “dumb tw*t.” But NOW communications director Lisa Bennett changed the organization’s tune later in the day, issuing a statement published on Dailycaller.com, saying:“Listen, supposedly progressive men (ok, and women, too): Cut the crap! Stop degrading women with whom you disagree and/or don’t like by using female body terms or other gender-associated slurs.”

She also chastised the press for bothering NOW with questions about derogatory language toward women

“You’re trying to take up our time getting us to defend your friend, Sarah Palin. If you keep us busy defending her, we have less time to defend women’s bodies from the onslaught of reproductive rights attacks and other threats to our freedom, safety, livelihood, etc,” wrote Bennett. “Sorry, but we can’t defend Palin or even Hillary Clinton from every sexist insult hurled at them in the media. That task would be impossible, and it would consume us. You know this would not be a productive way to fight for women’s equal rights, which is why you want us stuck in this morass.”

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TerryDo 03.23.11 at 10:22 am

“Listen, supposedly progressive men (ok, and women, too): Cut the crap! Stop degrading women with whom you disagree and/or don’t like by using female body terms or other gender-associated slurs.”

“Sorry, but we can’t defend Palin or even Hillary Clinton from every sexist insult hurled at them in the media. That task would be impossible, and it would consume us. You know this would not be a productive way to fight for women’s equal rights, which is why you want us stuck in this morass.”
********************
Bennett is absolutely right, NOW should not be wasting their time chasing down each and every idiot’s slur against women, but when called up by Fox News or CNN or MSNBC etc. they should have a strong simple statement and Ms. Bennett has one:
“Listen, supposedly progressive men (ok, and women, too): Cut the crap! Stop degrading women with whom you disagree and/or don’t like by using female body terms or other gender-associated slurs.”
That is all they ever need to say: Cut the Crap!

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goofsmom 03.23.11 at 2:50 pm

Dances,

#398 – Thank you for posting that Re: NOW. It was good to see and it saddened me at the same time. I can understand that it would be all consuming to counter every insult. I appreciate their explaination.

I just wish there was a group that made this their mission. As you and other pumas have commented previously, it starts with the way we use language and how that usage effects the greater picture of the way women are preceived and respected by society as a whole.

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DancesWithPumas 03.23.11 at 4:36 pm

simofish 02.16.11 at 8:44 pm
this just pisses me off – when the F are women gonna stand up and say NO F’ING MORE
——————-
You might want to set an example by not referring to women as “bitches”.

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HP Boston 03.23.11 at 9:29 pm

RIP Elizabeth Taylor.

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freddiebrown 03.24.11 at 3:41 am

Donald Trump still asking Obama to show his birth certificate. This time, with the gals on the View. Amazingly they show him a little more respect than a lot of Republicans that have come on the show. Money talks…? Video is quite funny actually. I love that Trump ruffles all the feathers.
http://theview.abc.go.com/video/donald-trump-talks-about-birthers

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Delle 03.24.11 at 4:17 am

I woke up to quite a shock this morning. My front stoop and sidewalk is covered with several inches of ice and frozen snow! I turned on the news to hear that the Long Island temperature now is 28 degrees.

Oh My!

I am almost afraid to see what has happened to my daffodils and crocuses. They were all looking so beautiful just the other day.

Anyway, I hope all of you Pumas living on the east coast didn’t yet put away your shovels.

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Zee 03.24.11 at 1:57 pm

goofs, #400

Actually, there is such a group. Dang. I know I posted it somewhere, but I can’t remember the name of the group. They were asking people to send in each and every sexist bs incident in the media. You never know which group is going to catch on. Sadly, they apparently haven’t yet, but if I can dig them up again, I will try to make it one of my regular rounds on the net.

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Zee 03.24.11 at 1:59 pm

ugh, Delle, my sympathies! We’ve had snow twice here recently but none sticking to the ground, thank heavens.

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Zee 03.24.11 at 2:00 pm

RIP, Elizabeth Taylor, indeed. That stupid church is going to “boycott” her funeral. Publicity whores.

On a lighter note, did anyone here see the footage of Zero locked out of the White House? Hilarious.

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goofsmom 03.24.11 at 2:06 pm

Zee,

#405 – Thanks! I’ll look around on google and see if I can find them, if I do I’ll post here also.

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goofsmom 03.24.11 at 2:21 pm

Zee,

#407 – It’s appalling that the “Wacko” Baptist bunch are going to protest Elizabeth Taylor’s funeral.

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invalidresponse 03.24.11 at 3:12 pm

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goofsmom 03.24.11 at 4:34 pm

Hey invalidresponse,

Good to see ya, thanks for the link. :)

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Delle 03.24.11 at 5:09 pm

The video of obama locked out of the WH is hilarious.

It’s just too bad that someone let him back in.

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goofsmom 03.24.11 at 6:00 pm

Some good news, Wacko Baptist church didn’t make Liz Taylor’s funeral. Guess they didn’t know that she had converted to Judaism in 1959. She was buried in a private family only ceremony today.

RIP Dame Elizabeth Taylor.

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goofsmom 03.25.11 at 12:29 am

Zee,

#405 – Were you thinking of Women’s Media Center? They have a page you can report to them on Sexism in the media… It’s called Sexism Watch.

http://www.womensmediacenter.com/

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Delle 03.25.11 at 1:33 pm

I was wandering around on some NY sites when I came across this report. I am actually hesitant to post this. Call me old fashioned if you like, but I find it quite vulgar.
Nevertheless, I thought I’d make you aware of what is considered subway art in NYC.
http://www.thegrumbler.net/2011/03/new-york-dick.html
Penis graffiti is so popular that the person in this article actually published a book about it!
I don’t know what these ‘artists’ are trying to prove by drawing these type pictures on public walls, but I find it rather disgusting!

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Headclunker 03.25.11 at 7:04 pm

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Delle 03.26.11 at 5:40 am

According to Pam Geller and the N.Y. Times, the muslim brotherhood is set to take over the new Egypt:

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2011/03/drumroll-please-yes-its-the-muslim-brotherhood-taking-over-the-new-egypt.html

This is bad news – especially for the women living there.

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Headclunker 03.26.11 at 11:09 am

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FLBarbara 03.26.11 at 11:39 am

Some days the world is a little sadder today the family of Geraldine Ferrera announced she passed away this morning surrounded by loved ones.
RIP and Thank You Geraldine.

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honora 03.26.11 at 12:05 pm

I agree FLBarbara– I am in tears thinking about all the wonderful things she did for women. As if putting up with all the sexist idiots wasn’t enough when she was running for VP– she put herself out there and supported Hillary and Sarah to the end. She spoke the truth to power, never as forcefully as when she told the world that Obama was an emperor with no clothes.

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freddiebrown 03.26.11 at 12:49 pm

http://www.cnn.com/2011/POLITICS/03/26/obit.geraldine.ferraro/index.html?hpt=T1&iref=BN1

Geraldine Ferraro – Incredible woman and a great friend to Hillary Clinton. I remember being a bit tongue tied talking to her when she actually called me back, after reading my note I left with her door man. She is in the league of strong women marching to put women on the map in many ways. Sad to know she has passed on.

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Dances With Pumas 03.26.11 at 1:17 pm

Freddie: “I remember being a bit tongue tied talking to her when she actually called me back, after reading my note I left with her door man.”
—————
Oh my gosh!! That was you??
Your comment jogged my memory and I remembered that episode but didn’t recall who gave the doorman the note and received a call from Geraldine Ferraro! Good on ya, Freddie!

PS I still have a Mondale/Ferraro bumpersticker and Ferraro campaign button. They’re posted on my refrigerator door along with pix of Hillary and many other Pumas.

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Headclunker 03.26.11 at 1:46 pm

Rest in peace, with all our love Geraldine Ferraro.

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freddiebrown 03.26.11 at 2:19 pm

Dances – ya,, that was me. We were in NY and I saw an interview with her talking about Hillary’s campaign etc and I wanted to let her know about the PUMA group, so when I was in NY for a show, I googled her address and went to her apt. She was not in but the doorman let me leave a message so I left the blog address as well . When she called, I was working and was not expecting it.
I then sent her some flowers and some of my products which she emailed (I think it was email or note I don’t remember) that her grand children loved them…
Shucks I don’t remember if it was a note. It was a very busy time, with the poster flyers etc going on and work etc. Shucks !
She spoke very highly of Hillary Clinton and I remember asking what she thought of Hillarys chances at the Denver Convention and even though she did not say specifically, I could sense that she sounded subdued and in the way politicians talk, I took from it that it was not good.
I liked her a lot. Come to think of it, I have spoken to both women Presidential contenders !!! Where’s Sarah Palin… I need to talk to her :)
Can’t help a little humour at this time.

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freddiebrown 03.26.11 at 2:23 pm

Well, I take it back. We don’t know if Palin will run for Pres. Every day I see reports that her polls are down. I wonder if the media is setting us up – as in subliminally making us think negatively about her. Really, between Palin and Obama? I’ll take her in a lickety split second. My husband already both hands down want Palin to run. Fred too – paws up.

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freddiebrown 03.26.11 at 2:56 pm

Don’t you love it when a political figure speaks her mind without apologizing and back peddling or fear of her popularity plummeting ? Perhaps that’s why I love it when Palin says it as it is with a smile and a wink. Quote below was a definate fresh air for me :

But in March 2008, Ferraro was at the center of political controversy when she resigned from her fund-raising position with Clinton’s campaign for comments Ferraro made about Clinton’s rival, then-Sen. Barack Obama, during the Democratic primaries.

Ferraro remarked that Obama’s campaign was successful because he was black.

She later told CNN that she was “absolutely not” sorry for her comments.

“I am who I am and I will continue to speak up,” she said.

Ferraro then criticized the Obama campaign for efforts she characterized as trying to block her First Amendment rights.

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goofsmom 03.26.11 at 3:47 pm

It is a sad day for women, one of our bright shining stars has passed.

Freddiebrown,

Thank you for reposting about your conversation with Ms. Ferraro.

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stoney42 03.26.11 at 3:53 pm

So sorry to hear of Geraldine Ferraros death.

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