
DANCING WITH THE STARS - BRISTOL PALIN - Bristol Palin, former first daughter of Alaska. She teams up with two-time champ MARK BALLAS, who returns for his seventh season. (ABC/GREG ZABILSKI) BRISTOL PALIN, MARK BALLAS
Vote for Bristol Palin on Dancing With the Stars. It’s just too damn fun not to take advantage of the hysterical and absurd apoplexy exhibited by Obots over anything Palin. “She has no talent!!! It’s rigged!!” they all cry and whine. Waah waah waah, Jackasses. When you morons pulled the same trick on the rest of the goddamned country and blindly supported an inexperienced, no-talent empty suit you didn’t help him win a meaningless little trophy . . .
YOU MADE HIM THE FUCKING PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.
So seriously, Fuck you, Obots.
“The number to call or text (AT&T customers only) your vote for them is 800-868-3407. You can also vote online by going here. You get to vote several times, several different ways. Use all your options for Bristol. Voting begins when the show starts. You have until 30 minutes after DWTS ends to vote via phone and text. However, you may vote online until 11 a.m. Eastern the next day.”
More info here.



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murphy 11.22.10 at 9:23 pm
lol, i voted several times with my cell phone. too fun.
text to 340-7 or 800-800-868-3407
wontbackdown 11.22.10 at 9:33 pm
YOU GO MURPHY!
You deserve this BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
BillieJo 11.22.10 at 10:24 pm
YOU MADE HIM THE FUCKING PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.
So seriously, Fuck you, Obots.
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You tell um ((Murhp)).
Bristol is a sweetie, I will vote online for her.
FLBarbara 11.22.10 at 10:33 pm
LMAO
I have been doing this the whole competition.
What could be better than watching the Obots head explode every Tuesday night!!
If Bristol wins there will be a huge explosion!!
Don’t ya just love when an Obot says it cheating?
I want them to take votes away from Grey and give them to Palin and perhaps FL and MI only count half votes.
Ohhh that would be me gotta go vote some more.
Good job Murphy excellent.
Zee 11.22.10 at 10:36 pm
“So seriously, Fuck you, Obots.”
It’s just so relaxing to hear this…so seriously, murphy…thank you.
Zee 11.22.10 at 10:40 pm
Oh, and … after making an obot cry rub his/her face in it.
Shove previously untouchable Krugman’s I TOLD YOU SO right up into the nostrils of every last Obot…they don’t deserve to breathe, anyway. Metaphorically speaking.
http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/11/21/fdr-reagan-and-obama/
Zee 11.22.10 at 10:42 pm
Thank you, HP…thank you for fighting the good fight.
I’m thinking of driving up to Canada and flying from there and letting the “radiation or groping” thugs in homeland security jokedom know and know why.
Zee 11.22.10 at 10:51 pm
more blogs are picking up Krugman’s sticking it to the obots…thanks, TGW
Casper Cat 11.22.10 at 10:54 pm
Murphy… Just tried to call here in Ca…. It said (auto-talker) my time zone has been closed…. Well, Shit the show has not even aired here yet…. WTF!!!! Also, tried to log on abc.com Nope! would not accept my email or password… Said both were already used…. I do think the show USED people for their votes(viewer ship) because the show was doing poorly… Now, the left is pissing on the end game… Just like they did to Hillary… I will try again when the show airs… Fucking Ratbastards… I hope all of them rott ( no not in hell) but, here on earth…. freaking sick twisted pieces of shit…
murphy 11.22.10 at 10:59 pm
I actually changed Junior’s flight plans for weds. couldn’t STAND the idea of her being subjected to all the chaos and potential violence. It cost me $500, but she’s flying out of a MUCH smaller airport now, and, hopefully, won’t have to deal with all this bullshit. I dont think the small airport even has the x-ray porn machines.
ooooh, I hate hate hate the idea of young women being subjected to these nude picture takings.
Uppity’s been documenting the abuses of other vulnerable groups, like the elderly, the very young, and people with physical issues like prostheses and colostomy/etc bags.
http://uppitywoman08.wordpress.com/2010/11/22/tsa-on-a-power-trip/
Does the 4th fucking amendment not count anymore???
(sorry, can’t resist the f-word tonight)
we need a system like Israel has. Israel hasnt had a highjacking since 1969, and they dont use scanners.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airport_security#Israel
murphy 11.22.10 at 11:06 pm
Hi Casper!!
Supposedly you should be able to vote until tomorrow a.m. — check this link to see if it helps:
http://abc.go.com/shows/dancing-with-the-stars/about-voting
murphy 11.22.10 at 11:10 pm
Listening to the Diane Rehm show today on wgbh boston while they were discussing Opt Out Day and all the issues surrounding privacy/security, it occurred to me that a smart terrorist would simply show up at the airport on weds and blow himself up in the fricking security line. How many damn people are going to be jammed into JFK airport on that day? you dont need to get porn ray-ed or groped to get in the security line. Why bring a bomb on a plane with 200 people on it when you can take out 500 in a jammed up security queue on the ground and go to Allah and the 72 virgins without even boarding a flight.
terrorism sucks.
invalidresponse 11.22.10 at 11:24 pm
murphy 11.22.10 at 11:10 pm
“a smart terrorist would simply show up at the airport on weds and blow himself up in the fricking security line.”
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They were discussing that exact scenario on Sirius radio today
murphy 11.22.10 at 11:33 pm
I dont even want to think about invalid. It’s too horrible. Hopefully everything will be boring and irritating on weds and thursday just like it always is on Thanksgiving.
We can only hope that the sec of state and defense department have a suitable retaliation plan already set and ready to go if anything horrible like that happens.
Casper Cat 11.22.10 at 11:51 pm
((((((((Murphy)))))))) Thanks! I will see what happends… Great to see YOU!!! Wishing You and your Family the very best always….. Remember, if you ever come to CA again…. Well, my home is your home….
May you have a wonderful and happy Thanksgiving…..
Warm Regards, Suzanne
DancesWithPumas 11.23.10 at 12:05 am
WOOOOOOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
GO MURPHY!!
“YOU MADE HIM THE FUCKING PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.”
And altho this isnt anywhere as significant as that pile of junk… remember how the screwed with the blog awards?? Now they’re crying over Bristol Palin…. bunch of week-kneed-weasely-pimple-assed-shit for brains-losers.
The Bristol Palin crap is on every major manstream media …
waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa they cheated….waaaaaaaaah if they let Bristol win DWTS will lose all credibility…. waaaaaaaaaaaaaaah.
goddamned shmucks.
DancesWithPumas 11.23.10 at 12:08 am
psssst …. guess how many terrorists they’ve caught via the porn-ray-pat-grope??
ZERO. NONE. ZILCH. NADA. NOT ONE.
DancesWithPumas 11.23.10 at 12:13 am
Murphy’s back…oh yeah…oooooooooooh yeah. Murphy’s Back!
Happy Happy Joy Joy! Murphy’s Back!!
goofsmom 11.23.10 at 12:18 am
(((((MURPHY))))))
YOU ROCK! I’ve been over there voting along with all my sock puppets and so has hubby and all his sock puppets!
I soooooo loved this prowl.
murphy 11.23.10 at 12:19 am
A wonderful holiday weekend to you and yours as well Casper! and if I dont get to california again before I die I’ll just have to die trying!
Casper Cat 11.23.10 at 12:22 am
DWP…
Oh, YA!!!!
Great to see you too…..
Oh, thanks for the B-day wish…
along with goofsmom and Rancho….
Oh, this is it…. Nope! No more B-days…. 48 is enough…. I simply refuse to have more….
Casper Cat 11.23.10 at 12:26 am
((((((Murphy))))) If I have anything to do with it…. YOU WILL BE BACK IN CALIFORNIA…. I know I am yelling…. but, just wanted to make sure you heard me….. You are something very special…
And, I know one thing for sure… You are Welcome anytime…..
Ok, if is official…. DWP… get that mock turtle ready…. goofmom ready to push? we are heading to Mass to get Murphy….
Casper Cat 11.23.10 at 12:29 am
goofsmom 11.23.10 at 12:29 am
I’m ready Casper.
goofsmom 11.23.10 at 12:34 am
On a more serious note: Wishing all PUMAs and their families a wonder Thanksgiving. I’m lighting a candle for all to have a safe and happy holiday.
goofsmom 11.23.10 at 12:39 am
invalid and Murphy,
#12,13 & 14 – I’ve been thinking about that too. I saw an article (don’t remember where) that talked about the Israeli proceedure, they interview everyone before they get thru security and they only screen the one’s that act suspicious. The only problem with their system is they do profiling, and our government won’t go for that.
murphy 11.23.10 at 12:45 am
goofs,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airport_security#Israel
murphy 11.23.10 at 12:46 am
why I hate the b-word:
http://www.ihollaback.org/2010/11/go-study-for-your-sats-fucking-chinese-bitch/
goofsmom 11.23.10 at 12:52 am
Thanks Murphy. Who every wrote the article I read, copied that wikipedia page.
DancesWithPumas 11.23.10 at 12:56 am
Voted twice so far. Can’t seem to vote online. Did vist their “chatroom” and “discussion” board.
I couldnt get in otherwise I would have pasted Murphy’s post there.
They’re blaming Bristol’s wins on the Tea Party. Also blaming the TP for the lines being tied up. Threatening to never ever watch DWTS again if Bristol wins.
waaaaaaaaaah
If Bristol wins, they’ll just have to get over it. (echo)
DancesWithPumas 11.23.10 at 1:01 am
Casper Cat 11.23.10 at 12:26 am
((((((Murphy))))) If I have anything to do with it…. YOU WILL BE BACK IN CALIFORNIA…. I know I am yelling…. but, just wanted to make sure you heard me….. You are something very special… And, I know one thing for sure… You are Welcome anytime….. Ok, if is official…. DWP… get that mock turtle ready…. goofmom ready to push? we are heading to Mass to get Murphy….
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I have two mock turtles… we’ll grab Toni on the way … two drivers in each RV.
Just need a time, date, meet-up place, and weather report.
DancesWithPumas 11.23.10 at 1:05 am
Casper Cat 11.23.10 at 12:22 am DWP… Oh, YA!!!! Great to see you too….. Oh, thanks for the B-day wish… along with goofsmom and Rancho…. Oh, this is it…. Nope! No more B-days…. 48 is enough…. I simply refuse to have more….
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Oh nooooooooooooo. 50s are the BEST. Yopu’ll be in your full power (hard to imagine knowing how powerful you are now)..
If you must, you can stop at 59.
goofsmom 11.23.10 at 1:13 am
Wooo Hooo… Road trip!!!
DancesWithPumas 11.23.10 at 1:13 am
Shove previously untouchable Krugman’s I TOLD YOU SO right up into the nostrils of every last Obot…they don’t deserve to breathe, anyway. Metaphorically speaking.
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Krugman?? Seriously??
Didn’t he guzzle the kool-aid at a certain point??
By the end of obama’s only first and only term, wou won’t be able to find even one soul who voted for him… sorta the reverse of the Nixon-JFK election JFK won by a small margin but after he was assasinated, 60% of the country claimed they had voted for him.
DancesWithPumas 11.23.10 at 1:15 am
goofsmom 11.23.10 at 1:13 am
Wooo Hooo… Road trip!!!
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Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaah!!
.
DancesWithPumas 11.23.10 at 1:26 am
Holy Smokes!
‘Harry Potter’ Has $330 Million Debut Weekend
katie1263 11.23.10 at 2:15 am
Hi Murphy,
With all due respect, you are wrong about this one. Bristol Palin cannot dance, and it is devastating that she made the Top Three. This is a girl who has been at the bottom of the leader board each week. She has not had one 10 from the judges. The show has lost its credibility, and I think that is unfortunate.
To be clear, I am very devoted Hillary Clinton supporter. I did whatever I could to help her win the primary, and watched Obama and his team steal it from her. However, two wrongs do not make a right. Bristol Palin needs to lose tomorrow night, and the Dancing With The Stars show should never have been politicized in the first place.
On a different note,I do hope you have a wonderful Thanksgiving.
Notyoursweetie 11.23.10 at 7:17 am
Never watched that show, but you bet I’ll vote!
And the Morning Sneeze
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2010/11/23/the-morning-sneeze-obama-down-to-the-backwash/
HP Boston 11.23.10 at 7:39 am
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Zee 11.22.10 at 10:42 pm
Thank you, HP…thank you for fighting the good fight.
I’m thinking of driving up to Canada and flying from there and letting the “radiation or groping” thugs in homeland security jokedom know and know why.
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Zee exactly! Montreal is only 300 miles away a mere 75 from Burlington Vermont! I am planning on flying from Canada too. I am going to check out bus and train and rental car prices.
HP Boston 11.23.10 at 7:41 am
Oh and Zee lots of small airports…RI, Maine, NH that may not have Porn Machines….I will check them out too.
Notyoursweetie 11.23.10 at 8:45 am
Does everyone get 5 votes in this thing or am I special?
Today’s tabloids – a word from your groper : If you don’t allow us to fondle you, the terraists win
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2010/11/23/tabloids-and-now-a-word-from-your-groper-the-terraists-win/
michelina 11.23.10 at 9:21 am
(((((pumaland)))))
My votes have been Placed:
as Murphy / Puma’s say: F**K YOU—Obots
Love to have some fun too
theamericanway 11.23.10 at 9:55 am
Headclunker: File19 proofed, sent.
yttik 11.23.10 at 9:58 am
I voted! I really appreciate the example Bristol has shown, that you don’t have to be a Hollywood version of a female, full of drama, anorexic thin, over sexualized. It’s really refreshing to watch an ordinary girl just work hard and be herself.
But yes, darn right I voted to make Obot heads explode. I want that single mom to take home a glittery mirror ball trophy on a TV show. You idiots voted for a fake president and than went on to give him a pre-emptive Nobel Peace Prize. Piss off about your sudden concern over voting fraud and someone’s qualifications. Since when do you believe in election integrity and the merit system anyway??
BigCatLover 11.23.10 at 10:00 am
Looks like I missed the fun last night with DWTS. When do they announce the winners? To katie1263 (if you’re new, welcome) shows like DWTS are not serious shows but are just opiates for the masses and the contestants are celebrities. If the winner is supposed to be the one who gets the most votes from the audience (I never watch these shows), then it is just a popularity contest and all cries that the best dancer should win are irrelevant. And, all cries that someone should not win because we find their politics, family, etc. distasteful are irrelevant, too. That this even upsets people is a sign of how shallow our times are now.
Notyoursweetie 11.23.10 at 10:17 am
It’s DUdie time again! Today’s edition: Backbone like a ramrod, brain larger than his skull
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2010/11/23/dudies-of-november-19-23/
DancesWithPumas 11.23.10 at 10:39 am
katie1263 11.23.10 at 2:15 am
…Bristol Palin cannot dance, and it is devastating that she made the Top Three. This is a girl who has been at the bottom of the leader board each week. She has not had one 10 from the judges. The show has lost its credibility, and I think that is unfortunate.
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This has very little to do with Bristol Palin or her dance ability, at least in my opinion it doesn’t. The consequences of who wins the dwts contest are inconsequential. There’s a huge difference between DWTS and POTUS, as noted in Murphy’s post. The two are not equal.
These 2 wrongs are not equal. and, by my count, it wasn’t one wrong perpetrated on Democrats during the primary… it was an ongoing menagerie of wrongs strung together by dnc/rbc, super delegates, state votes being halves, votes and delegates being awarded to the O’sakasht, the roll call vote, convention shenanigans, caucus fraud, illegal contributions, media buy-in blah blah blah blah…
No comparison.
PS You didnt really say “it is devastating that she (Bristol Palin) made the Top Three.” did you??
“Devastating”, really? Gimme a break.
yttik 11.23.10 at 1:20 pm
LOL, devastating? I actually thought it was devastating when Donny Osmond won DWTS or when Sanjay stayed on American Idol because people kept voting for his crazy hairdos. Or the fact that Hannah Montana is a star. Actually, no, I did not find those things devastating.
I do however, have to laugh about people who are worried about DWTS’s credibility. What credibility?? It’s a TV show where viewers get to participate by helping to chose their favorites! Since when is the general public “credible” about selecting a celebrity?
FLBarbara 11.23.10 at 3:14 pm
Dances.. Ditto
The hypocrisy is just amazing.
They are soooo devasated about
the reputation of DWTS but had not a one about the DNC nor our country. LMAO
I hope all their heads explode..
DWTS vs. POTUS
http://freemenow.wordpress.com/2010/11/23/dwts-vs-potus/
wontbackdown 11.23.10 at 4:56 pm
BigCatLover:
Here’s some more pictures you might like – I’m leaving my commentaries out of it from now on… well, sort of:
Gender Violence: How Far Have We Come?
http://herlocaust.org/news/
Uppity Woman 11.23.10 at 5:08 pm
It’s true Bristol can’t dance. Seriously, she can’t dance.
But I find it hilarious that a bunch of Obots — who thought it was okay for people to cheat their way through caucuses, thought it was okay if someone registered cartoon characters to vote, and who also thought it was okay to steal delegates from Hillary and pull some more delegates out of somebody’s ass — think voting for Bristol is some serious cheating.
She can’t “Dance” and he can’t “President” either. And one of these two things is a LOT more serious.
DancesWithPumas 11.23.10 at 5:13 pm
From a commenter at Hillbuzz:
JerseyGram says: November 23, 2010 at 7:12 am
Here is a mind-blowing “Fancast” “article” about the show. It’s entitled “TheGood,The Bad, and Kyle…” Writer admits that in the media booth, they boo Bristol. Nice.
The comments which are up to 200 now are a must read. Heads are blowing, eyes are shooting out of the head, snakes are slithering out of mouths – not pretty.
http://www.fancast.com/blogs/2010/tv-news/dwts-finals-jennifer-vs.-bristol-the-good-the-bad-kyle/?cmpid=FCST_hero
DancesWithPumas 11.23.10 at 6:23 pm
Whewwww… just read too many of the DWTS comments in the link above (#52). Crazy stuff. These people are taking it waaaaaay to seriously, although it heartens me to see their attachment to fairness. Now if they could just apply that to all areas of life.
Headclunker 11.23.10 at 6:40 pm
Hey, I head they waited until 4 am to call Obozo about North Korea’s attack on South Korea. Do you think he is awake yet?
DancesWithPumas 11.23.10 at 6:42 pm
Hillaryis44.org
The Age Of Fake In Full Bloom
Is everything fake now? Is anything really “real” anymore? Oh yeah, there’s real death and real rocketry and real danger in the Korean Peninsula produced by a Fake leader in North Korea and a naive flim-flam man in Washington, D.C.. But what about in America? Is anything real in America? Or rather is there no sphere of life left untouched by fakery in post-Obama America?
Since the moment we named the post-Obama apocalypse “The Age Of Fake” the label rings truer with every passing day. From the mundane to the significant we are in the Obama Age Of Fake. Let’s start with the mundane.
Dancing With The Stars…
http://www.hillaryis44.org/2010/11/23/the-age-of-fake-in-full-bloom/
Headclunker 11.23.10 at 6:42 pm
The Ground Zero Mosque is looking for government funding
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE67Q5BW20100827
invalidresponse 11.23.10 at 7:16 pm
****fair and balanced my ass****
check out the 30 second ad that fox is refusing to air
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0qAAtLQ8zw
Headclunker 11.23.10 at 7:24 pm
Oh shit! I just have to post this. (Apologies in advance)
http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/pol/2076820561.html
roxylikepuma 11.23.10 at 7:38 pm
roxylike puma is back! roar!!!
Delle 11.23.10 at 7:39 pm
The next step for body scanners could be trains, boats, metro:
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/130549-next-step-for-body-scanners-could-be-trains-boats-and-the-metro-
Soon Big Sis Napaletano will be telling us all to just remain in our homes.
prplvette85 11.23.10 at 7:42 pm
voted. So, seriously Murphy, I fucking love you.
DancesWithPumas 11.23.10 at 7:42 pm
roxylikepuma 11.23.10 at 7:38 pm
roxylike puma is back! roar!!!
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Wow!! long time no see!
FLBarbara 11.23.10 at 7:47 pm
Headclunker
I was just reading that in a NY paper.
They have applied for 5 million in “rebuilding 911 funds”
So my question is their claim has been they are NOT building at ground zero” so how come they applied for
Funds to rebuild ground zero??
More Hypocrisy, more bullshit
BigCatLover 11.23.10 at 7:55 pm
This is hilarious (from Hillaryis44):
http://www.theonion.com/video/obama-outlines-moral-philosophical-justifications,18509/
BigCatLover 11.23.10 at 8:13 pm
DancesWithPumas 11.23.10 at 6:23 pm
Whewwww… just read too many of the DWTS comments in the link above (#52). Crazy stuff. These people are taking it waaaaaay to seriously, although it heartens me to see their attachment to fairness. Now if they could just apply that to all areas of life.
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I read some of those comments too. How old are these people?
BigCatLover 11.23.10 at 8:21 pm
wontbackdown 11.23.10 at 4:56 pm
BigCatLover:
Here’s some more pictures you might like – I’m leaving my commentaries out of it from now on… well, sort of:
Gender Violence: How Far Have We Come?
http://herlocaust.org/news/
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Great pics, where did you find the hand ones. Still Worthless After all these Years and the elepant picture is very clever. Going back to read all the articles and comments.
stoney42 11.23.10 at 8:35 pm
I voted yesterday. Do we vote again this evening?
murphy 11.23.10 at 8:46 pm
Nope, voting ended earlier today. Results will be announced tonight at 9pm eastern.
hiya Stoney!
murphy 11.23.10 at 8:47 pm
Dont have TV so I cant watch it live. Depending on miq to keep me posted.
http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2010/11/23/and-the-winner-is-abc/
DancesWithPumas 11.23.10 at 9:38 pm
6 pm pacific…
DancesWithPumas 11.23.10 at 9:44 pm
?
invalidresponse 11.23.10 at 11:10 pm
˙˙uıɐƃɐ uʍop ǝpıs dn pǝddıןɟ pןɹoʍ ǝɥʇ sɐɥ ˙˙˙˙ǝƃuɐɥɔ ɐ ɹoɟ ‘uoʍ uosɹǝd ʇɥƃıɹ ǝɥʇ ʍoʍ
DancesWithPumas 11.23.10 at 11:22 pm
jennifer grey won?
invalidresponse 11.23.10 at 11:26 pm
yep
DancesWithPumas 11.23.10 at 11:57 pm
That makes sense. It was still fun to see the kool-aid kids whining about cheating.
invalidresponse 11.24.10 at 12:16 am
more HOLY crimes..
(CNN)
“A Catholic priest, facing criminal charges and a lawsuit alleging that he sexually abused a teenage boy, is now charged with attempting to hire someone to kill the youth, authorities said Tuesday.
He was arrested last week after he offered an undercover agent with the Texas Department of Public Safety $5,000 to kill the teen, according to department spokeswoman Lisa Block.”
http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/11/23/texas.priest.arrested/
I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.
Mohandas Gandhi
Notyoursweetie 11.24.10 at 7:57 am
Oh, Pope – you are so generous! Even women are allowed protection from STDs!
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2010/11/24/morning-sneeze-yes-even-women-can-avoid-stds-now/
Notyoursweetie 11.24.10 at 8:28 am
Wednesday tabloids
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2010/11/24/tabloids-war-unemployement-and-groping-happy-t-giving/
Notyoursweetie 11.24.10 at 9:20 am
and about terrorism and reacting to it
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2010/11/24/the-terrorists-won-we-scratch-to-death/
BigCatLover 11.24.10 at 11:02 am
So the professional dancer won the dancing contest? Oh life is so ironic!
Happy Thanksgiving holiday everyone. BO just pardoned the turkeys at the WH. Hope you’re not flying, but if you are, I hope you’ll get a pardon from the intrusive scanning and searching before you can fly the friendly skies over America.
DancesWithPumas 11.24.10 at 11:50 am
I’m not about to get into any more discussions about DWTS, just want to say Jennifer is not a professional dancer.
Middle age female 11.24.10 at 12:07 pm
What irked me the most about the comments regarding Bristol was how fat she was, but no one ever complained about Kyle’s weight. grrrrr No wonder teen girls have body image issues.
DancesWithPumas 11.24.10 at 12:59 pm
Middle age female 11.24.10 at 12:07 pm
What irked me the most about the comments regarding Bristol was how fat she was, but no one ever complained about Kyle’s weight. grrrrr No wonder teen girls have body image issues.
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Yep! The “fat” comments were, in other ways, the least of it… all sorts of vile names were hurled about her.
honora 11.24.10 at 2:31 pm
One daughter past the TSA Groupers and sitting at her gate, one more to go.
Zee 11.24.10 at 4:22 pm
honora, that’s good to hear…!
We’re having our Thanksgiving tonight and I have everything lined up and waiting for folks to arrive.
Happy Thanksgiving, PUMAS! Hope everyone has a wonderful gathering.
Zee 11.24.10 at 4:25 pm
#34 dances…
I hear my first friend arrive, must run, but quickly, Krugman is a long-time Hillary supporter and Obama-warner….and all the obots threw him under the bus early on. He gave Zero the widest latitude, and that is why some think he was a Zero supporter, but he just did that in order to toe the line for progressives and now is unleashing the told-you-sos with a vengeance. He unleashed a few earlier told you sos, but his blog is mostly unpopulated these days.
night, pumas!!!
Headclunker 11.24.10 at 5:18 pm
Obozo is messing on HC:
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/140827
Obviously she needs to resign the position and run against the maggot brain.
Headclunker 11.24.10 at 5:42 pm
Do not read without a barf bag handy:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40350808/ns/world_news/
Delle 11.24.10 at 6:06 pm
Another Holy Crime:
http://www.portsmouth.co.uk/newshome/Muslim-religious-leader-jailed-for.6633266.jp
TerryDo 11.24.10 at 7:55 pm
HAPPY THANKSGIVING PUMAS!
I am so disheartened seeing all those young, old and in-between American citizens being harassed by their own government. Their pictures on the internet and youtube, give the appearance of helplessness and fear on their faces, as if they are being victimized in a Nazi sense, by their own damn government.
The terrorists must be having a laughing festival at how the TSA, authorized by the government are in effect sexually molesting their own people and taking pornographic pictures and in effect demoralizing Americans.
I am praying and screaming for Americans to snap out of their fear. When will Americans put a stop to this perversion?
Take your damn country back, take your damn freedom back and insist on racial profiling. Better racial profiling than this total self-inflicted humiliation, perpetrated by the government, because of political so called correctness.
Love…..
BigCatLover 11.24.10 at 8:22 pm
DancesWithPumas 11.24.10 at 11:50 am
I’m not about to get into any more discussions about DWTS, just want to say Jennifer is not a professional dancer.
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This is not the Jennifer Grey that’s the daughter of Joel Grey and the star of Dirty Dancing?
invalidresponse 11.24.10 at 8:49 pm
I will never understand people who believe that treatment that is not acceptable for you to have to endure, is just fine and dandy for other people that do not look like you to endure. Do you not realize that if you believe this “humiliation, perpetrated by the government” should not be done on you, then it shouldn’t be done to “them” either. No matter what “they” look like.
YOUR LAW ABIDING ASS IS NO BETTER THEN THEIR LAW ABIDING ASS.
Advocating for treating a sector of society in a manner that you would not wish to be subjected to, goes against everything this country stands for. Either make the commitment to treat all people with the same equality you enjoy or stop calling this country the United States of America.
You either believe in freedom, liberty, and equality for all… or you don’t.
For some.. just doesn’t cut it.
invalidresponse 11.24.10 at 9:21 pm
Jennifer Grey is an actress, yes she played (very convincingly) a dancer in a movie 23 years ago… but “professional dancer?” that is quite a stretch. Now if the argument was about Patrick Swayze I might could get on board, he freely admitted he was taught to dance by his mother, who was a dance teacher.
Micheal Landon played a pretty convincing pioneer, but I wouldn’t have suggested that you take off to the wilderness with him to start a new life, and live off the land (while he was still alive)
DancesWithPumas 11.24.10 at 10:24 pm
Yes, Jennifer Grey is the daughter of Joel Grey. Yes she co-starred in DirtyDancing.
She’s is a professional actor, not a professonal dancer. She acted the part of a dancer in part of dirty dancing.
wontbackdown 11.25.10 at 12:13 am
Inavalid:
I would agree with you except for one BIG difference.
Muslims and Sikhs are demanding EXCEPTIONS to certain “guidelines” being exercised in the searches while the rest can’t HIDE behind such SACRED exceptionalism!
In fact, if “ordinary” people object on the basis of the “sacredness” of their bodies, disability or age – the physical assault by TSA security personnel escalates into obvious, extreme, unnecessary further humiliation. Yet Muslims can allege “profiling” – simply on the basis of “symbolism” and/or accent?!
REALLY!???. Tread lightly on those whose very religion have spawned extremist factions which are still slaughtering innocent lives all over the world after 500 years of their RELIGIOUS war?
REALLY!??? Handle people of THIS particular religion in a manner that protect THEM from unnecessary public humiliation – protect their personal religious integrity – simply on the basis of the Religious SYMBOLISMS they wear – while ALL others have no such protection – not even their fucking Colostomy Bags that a person CAN’T remove!???
It IS the “Religious Symbols” that makes it so damned hard to distinguish ONE FACTION OF ISLAMIC FOLLOWERS FROM THE OTHER – not the FUCKING COLOR OF THEIR SKIN OR THE TENETS OF THEIR PRIVATE RELIGIOUS PRACTICES.
Corporations are setting “GUIDELINES” to keep “Christians” from displaying or wearing religious symbols all over this country – yet Muslims are demanding to be granted exceptions for wearing their “symbolism” of their religious allegiance in their APPAREL!?
You can bet that if it were “Christians” that were committing these horrendous crimes all over the world – their religious “symbols” would make them suspect, because of their association to the “religion” – not how they live their own versions of it.
It is largely non-muslim citizens that are being victimized – disproportionately – not the other way around.
And, THAT is the whole problem with being affiliated with a “religion” that demands recognition of its religious “law” over those that can and should be applied equally to ALL PEOPLE!
They are nothing more than “ethical” systems that largely view everyone outside of their particular system of belief as a threat to the world.
THAT IS THE BIG FUCKING DIFFERENCE IN THE DEMAND FOR “RELIGIOUS” RIGHTS VS “HUMAN” RIGHTS!
wontbackdown 11.25.10 at 12:15 am
IMO.
wontbackdown 11.25.10 at 12:28 am
Have a Happy Thanksgiving Day!
invalidresponse 11.25.10 at 2:11 am
wontbackdown 11.25.10 at 12:13 am
well propaganda is at an all time high in this country so .. lets just hit these one by one
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“are demanding EXCEPTIONS ” and “the physical assault by TSA security personnel escalates”
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Not exactly, “they” are demanding that TSA agents follow TSA written policies. (what a novel concept, perhaps we should all demand holding people/agencies accountable to their written policies AND if those written policies are to invasive we also should demand they are changed)
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“religion–slaughtering innocent lives all over the world after 500 years”
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I dare say the bulk of the Muslims in this country have had no more a part in those wars and those deaths, then say Christians have had in the wars and the innocent lives lost all over the world in the name of their religion. Or even worse the lives lost in the wars fought over corporate greed all over the world.
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If “Christians” that were committing these horrendous crimes all over the world”
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psssst.. don’t look now, but “Christians ARE committing horrendous crimes and have been through out history” AND it is not just all over the world.. it is right here at home. Look at your crime stat’s here in the USA, the vast majority of Muslims who are law-abiding contributors to society, in fact the per cap numbers show that “they” are more law abiding then “we” are.
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“religious “symbols” would make them suspect”
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Christians are a majority, so they are never put in the suspect class.. that is reserved for “those” different then “us”. Identifiers are only used to pick out minority’s, because it is the “being different” that makes them suspect.
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“whole problem with being affiliated with a “religion” that demands recognition of its religious “law”
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I don’t think that I need to remind you of all the Christian laws that are being enforced in this country in recognition of religious “law”
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“RELIGIOUS” RIGHTS VS “HUMAN” RIGHTS!
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are wrong no matter what religion we are discussing
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Again, same conclusion. Your law abiding ass is no better then their law abiding ass. If your law abiding ass will not put up with something how dare you believe that you should be able to require their law abiding ass put up with it. This “us” against “them” (meaning any one not like us) is bullshit, dangerous, and goes against everything this country stands for.
Quick question on this already very fricken long post, if only Muslims were being screened like this at the airports, do you think for one second the non-Muslim Americans would give a crap about the overreaching pat downs or nude x-ray machines at TSA .. the answer is no. And the overreaching would be even worse. Hell it could probably be strip searches for everyone looking remotely Muslim and as long as the majority did not fit in that class, the general attitude would be “sucks to be you”. Yet another excepted second class sector of society in the land of freedom and justice for some.
invalidresponse 11.25.10 at 2:12 am
Just my rare to be humble opinion as well
wontbackdown 11.25.10 at 3:14 am
Okay Invalid,
I forgot to give the standard OBVIOUS disclaimer… “Now, don’t get me wrong, there are really, really good Muslims who are really wonderful human beings… who have ABSOLUTELY nothing in common with extreme Islamic factions… like there are so many wonderful men who have nothing in common with men that are sexist, misogynistic or abusive to women…”
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“Quick question on this already very fricken long post, if only Muslims were being screened like this at the airports, do you think for one second the non-Muslim Americans would give a crap about the overreaching pat downs or nude x-ray machines at TSA … the answer is no
Speaking of gross over-generalizations… “the answer is no”? Surely your kidding?
That’s the whole outrage, Americans thought that they had fought for many laws that established a fundamental basis for protection of their civil rights – that clearly surpassed those in most Islamic – Muslim dominant countries.
“I don’t think that I need to remind you of all the Christian laws”
(I believe that I was including most “legalistic religious dogma’ explained in detail in MY “already very fricken long post”.
Which brings me to… you seem to be able to use non-muslims as a basis for your arguments which strongly suggest a vast bigoted view of muslims, while at the same time, seem to know exactly how all muslims feel rather accepting toward all non-muslims?
Well, let me just fly my lesbian ass right on over to India, Paskistan or any other predominately Muslim country and fall in love – and certainly before I take a sip from a bucket of sacred, muslim water.
I won’t even go on. Ignore this…
Politically.Correct.Bullshit. in MY rare to be humble opinion.
boogieman7167 11.25.10 at 5:52 am
happy thanksgiving pumas
invalidresponse 11.25.10 at 7:59 am
wontbackdown 11.25.10 at 3:14 am
My original rant was in response to “take your damn freedom back and insist on racial profiling.” I thought your response to my post continued on that same original subject.
Racial profiling in which I was ranting against, strips the rights of the from those mentioned in your “standard OBVIOUS disclaimer” and lumps them into one category, the “them” category. The moment you can strip someone out of the “us” category You can bet treatment of that person is about to become less than.
“civil rights” “most Islamic – Muslim dominant countries”
“on over to India, Paskistan ”
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now you see, apples and oranges, I’m talking about fellow Americans, flying/living right here in America. Extra screening for everyone coming through the Immigration department… different subject.
“vast bigoted view of muslims”
quite the opposite actually, I would prefer that people are treated like People, irrespective of their religion. I believe in both freedom of religion, and freedom from religion.
“muslims feel rather accepting toward all non-muslims?”
until those feelings begin to become actions and/or laws, that infringes on others… I really couldn’t care any less.
“Politically.Correct.Bullshit.”
No, just taking a stand for what I believe to be right and just.
Have a great Holiday!!
PumaRhythm 11.25.10 at 8:04 am
Happy Thanksgiving..Murphy and Pumas!
wishing you and yours the very best Turkey Day!
if you are traveling..have a safe trip.
i’m busy pitting dates..for this recipe..
someone spoke of it here at Pumapac a while back..I think.
http://www.browneyedbaker.com/2009/08/25/fontina-stuffed-bacon-wrapped-dates/
bbl (((Pumas)))
Notyoursweetie 11.25.10 at 8:13 am
Tabloids do Thanksgiving
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2010/11/25/tabloids-thanksgiving/
stoney42 11.25.10 at 8:22 am
Happy Thanksgiving!
Zee 11.25.10 at 9:35 am
Wow…we’re having a PUMA family fight around the virtual Thanksgiving table!
so….who spiked the apple cider? HP, I’m looking at you (probably because TT is sneaking up behind me…)
Happy T-day, all!
TexasTigress 11.25.10 at 9:37 am
Suckers .
That’s how they do it . They get you arguing over the details and the larger violation is lost in the mix .
They have completely discarded the 4th Amendment to the Constitution and only a FEW people can see (and are protesting) the obvious .
We are being manipulated and inundated with pictures and stories of people’s rights (and bodies) being violated daily .
It doesn’t matter who or whom (whatever) it’s freaking illegal !
The more we see it and the more we argue about the stupid details , the more it becomes “normal” . The more we view it as “this is how it is ”
WHY ? No one has blown anything up since 9/11 and we haven’t been subjected to these molestations by government officials under the guise of “keeping us safe” .
It’s bullshit – it’s just a test to gauge whether or not we will lay down and take it .
Benjamin Frankiln said ” Those who would trade Freedom for Security deserve neither.”
As far as profiling – it is much more complex than religeon or ethnicity – I’m not going to go into it , but look up the identification techniques that the strictest/safest airport in the world uses – not scanners or gropers – Ben Gurion airport in Israel.
I’m not trained but if I’m flying and you look like you might want to kill me , I may search you myself . Not because of what you are wearing or how you look but if you creep me out and are praying to Jesus or Allah or the great Spaghetti Monster I will probably frisk your ass .
Furthermore , I don’t care if it’s a TSA agent , Obama , or Madame Secretary herself , if you touch one of my kids inappropriately , you can expect swift and severe pain to be involved in your very near future .
PS . Happy Thanksgiving !!!!
TexasTigress 11.25.10 at 9:39 am
wow . ZEE’s psychic ! lol
TexasTigress 11.25.10 at 9:41 am
Damn my spelling is wobbly
Zee 11.25.10 at 9:59 am
Yes, my “tiger sense” was tingling! lol
I agree. It’s a 4th amendment issue. All the stop and search crap from airports to “DUI checkpoints” is unconstitutional.
We founded this country on “innocent until proven guilty” — and every time I hear politicians talk about “protecting” us I get furious. Invasion of privacy and guilty-until-proven-innocent is the opposite of protection in my book.
OK…now I need my vegan housemate to finish making her mushroom gravy and pumpkin bread pudding and go on to her Thanksgiving so my son and I can have ham omelets for brunch!!! Oh, well….no ham for us this morning….now that’s politically correct to a fault…
Zee 11.25.10 at 10:01 am
I like the wobbly spelling of religeon…it’s like a portmanteau with, take your pick, peon or pantheon.
TexasTigress 11.25.10 at 10:11 am
I like the wobbly spelling of religeon…it’s like a portmanteau with, take your pick, peon or pantheon
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precisactly !
TexasTigress 11.25.10 at 10:12 am
Oh , wait , I thought “portmanteau ” was a steak …
BigCatLover 11.25.10 at 10:30 am
DancesWithPumas 11.24.10 at 10:24 pm
Yes, Jennifer Grey is the daughter of Joel Grey. Yes she co-starred in DirtyDancing.
She’s is a professional actor, not a professonal dancer. She acted the part of a dancer in part of dirty dancing.
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Wow, arguments just like at a real family Thanksgiving (at least at my family Thanksgivings). I’m alone this year on Thanksgiving so I’ll keep this argument going, since this statement seems to be a distinction without a difference. Jennifer Grey’s father spent his entire career as a dancer, so let’s say whe was exposed to professional dancing her entire life. And if she was not taught to dance professionally for Dirty Dancing, I’ll eat my hat. Yessiree, another silly argument! Didn’t you see my wink at the end of my sentence when I called her a professional dancer or did you just want to argue due to PDS?
I’m staying out of the Musline/search argument because that could get really ugly. Happy Thanksgiving, Murphy.
TexasTigress 11.25.10 at 10:39 am
I am not a professional dancer , nor do I play one on Tv .
that should clear up the confusion
2PumaSisters 11.25.10 at 10:44 am
Good morning Murphy, Mama, Dances, HP Boston all Pumas
and your families,
Wishing all of you a Happy Thanksgiving and good health.
Enjoy this day with laughter, joy, love, good food and
thanksgiving. All good things come from God.
Tomorrow is another day. We are also one month away from
Christmas.
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
To all…
Headclunker 11.25.10 at 10:53 am
Texas Tigress #107
Exactly.
Headclunker 11.25.10 at 10:55 am
Happy Thanksgiving!
I am grateful for…
… and PUMA!
HP Boston 11.25.10 at 11:25 am
Well I find NOTHING happy or good about Thanksgiving this year.
The biggist reason is I can not fly any more! If I go to an airport I AM AT RISK…risk of being assulted and stripped of my 4th amendment rights!
WHO does this?? Is there any other countries in the world that do this??
The media is on the hush hush now and the message is out there STRIP DOWN AND SHUT UP!!!
I for one will not shut up…infact I will start calling airlines every day and ask when it will be safe for me to fly. I feel danger every time I enter a molesting airport! I suggest we all do the same.
I distrust “the” government more and more every day.
TexasTigress 11.25.10 at 11:33 am
I love you HP ! Have a Happy Thanksgiving anyway ! (that’ll really piss them off
HP Boston 11.25.10 at 11:42 am
TT I love you too, you nutty Puma! I mean that in the best possible way.
Happy Thanksgiving to all Pumas everywhere.
Do not fly. Islam sucks!
wontbackdown 11.25.10 at 12:06 pm
If you honestly believe that ANY faction of Muslim religion believes in YOUR human right to be equal to that of the muslim right be equal and protected – welcome to the globalization of American soil – at an airport near you. Your vote is getting smaller and smaller because the body of those that think You’re the anomaly is getting bigger and bigger by demanding equality, protection and exceptions and getting it.
That’s my whole point. The enemy of My Equality is Not my friend and when the view of a woman’s equality – or GLBT – is a diminished one within a religion, culture or the dictates of the RELIGIOUS LAW within them, you are absolutely right to consider me fearful of its influence and power – to further diminish the civil, human rights of those that the American Constitution and Bill of Rights USED to have precedent over a UN Human Rights Policy.
The enemy of My Equality and rights is Not my friend, no matter how bigoted, racist and double standard you think that makes me. Been there, done that and the SHEER NUMBERS of those with a certain “belief” – have NO problem today running right over the American Constitution and Bill of Rights.
Protecting a Religious value over the value of a human being is becoming a bigger and bigger problem.
There YOU are again, as a woman and GLBT, being inadvertently used as a voice for those that will vote against YOUR inalienable personal rights and freedoms as equal to theirs in a heartbeat?
Portmanteau, Peon, Politically Correct BLINDSPOT-ISM
yellowMcpuma08 11.25.10 at 12:42 pm
Happy Thanksgiving Day for all of you Dear Pumas
HP Boston 11.25.10 at 12:56 pm
wontbackdown 11.25.10 at 12:06 pm
RightS on Sista! PC means personal sacrife….I do that no more!
HP Boston 11.25.10 at 12:58 pm
Sacrifice!!!Sacrifice!!! I do that no more!!! You and me have been PC’D to death!!!
wontbackdown 11.25.10 at 1:46 pm
Hey HP! Happy Thanksgiving! I’m thankful! I told an Islamic major franchise gas station owner yesterday – with pumps that wouldn’t take anyone’s credit cards – but took my money with his fingernails, looked at me like I already had a face scarred with acid when I asked him a question that he wouldn’t answer: “God just told me to tell you to go fuck yourself. Give me back my money, I would push my car to the next station if I had to.” He refused and took 11 minutes to turn on the pump, until I threatened to call the police for theft.
Yearning for the pretense that ‘women are to be respected’ and America is for those seeking “equality for all” isn’t getting me through these seemingly increasing ‘uncomfortable’ moments.
wontbackdown 11.25.10 at 2:10 pm
What not to wear? Clothing a security line issue
What’s in style at the airport? Clothes that get you through security with minimal hassle
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/What-not-to-wear-Clothing-a-apf-1769943897.html
But, but, but, Turbans, Head Scarfs and Veils – sacrosanct?
I rest my case:
http://herlocaust.org/news/2010/11/travel-tip-for-women-wear-your-rights-religiously/
goofsmom 11.25.10 at 3:18 pm
Happy Thanksgiving dear PUMAs!!!
freddiebrown 11.25.10 at 6:24 pm
Happy Thanksgiving Pumas !
On a different note…bomb making “factory” found in San Diego county today.
San Diego County authorities confirmed Thursday they have found pentaerythritol tetranitrate, or PETN, a favorite of al Qaeda bomb-makers that is now the target of new U.S. airport body scans and pat downs.
http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/11/24/california.homemade.explosives/index.html?hpt=T1
FLBarbara 11.25.10 at 7:23 pm
Happy Thanksgiving PUMAs
I got an email from “Barack” seems he has CHANGED his President Obama signature to just Barack as if perhaps he is trying to disassociate himself from the President.
Anyway he says he is “Thankful for me and all I have done to help him”LMAO he should only know how much I have helped him OUT.
Hope you all had a blessed day.
invalidresponse 11.25.10 at 8:31 pm
YES and since I see WBD as a sister, that is why I feel totally comfortable arguing about this over the cyber family dinner table. Neither of us is going to storm off in a huff and never speak to each other again, neither of us is going to start calling each other names, or make personal attacks, so it is kinda nice to feel free to voice these opinion differences, and know that it isn’t going to get ugly.
With that said…
wontbackdown 11.25.10 at 12:06 pm
“faction of Muslim religion believes in YOUR human right”
Honestly, I could not care any less what they believe about me, I live by a standard and belief system that requires me to defend the rights of others, to speak out against the discrimination in all it’s ugly forms, and to fight for the equality of myself and others. It is certainly NOT a requirement for that to be reciprocated, in order to receive that treatment from me.
Your statement:
“There YOU are again, as a woman and GLBT, being inadvertently used as a voice for those that will vote against YOUR inalienable personal rights and freedoms as equal to theirs in a heartbeat?”
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Is entirely correct, yep that is me. I stand proudly here, doing exactly that. Yes, I will acknowledge a religion (and the RIGHT to follow that religion) who’s principles, customs, and beliefs are diametrically opposed to the principles, standards, and beliefs that I hold dear. THAT is what living in the land of the free REQUIRES.
We live by a system of laws, and I expect/demand those laws be enforced, what I do not believe in is the enforcement of beliefs. The only way this country works is to keep ALL religions out of our legal system, and to weed out those that are already there. I believe as strongly in the freedom from religion, as I do freedom of religion. Our laws MUST remain based on freedom, liberty, and equality for all and I will do my best to fight for ALL to be protected by those laws.
You see, you and I just disagree with exactly who the “enemy” is. The enemy in the airport situation are not the Muslims, it is the government. The Muslims are just as much victims of the government overreach as the rest of us are. And if we allow it, they will be victimized even more by the anger of those that see all this bullshit “security” as their fault.
The fault squarely lies with the government. IF the government was truly interested in “making us safe” they do the required changes that would actually provide the security we all seek.
First they would not spend hundreds of millions on computer enhanced strip search machines, in order to attempt to find a short cut to real security. They would not require the TSA agents to make the alternative to the scanners so very uncomfortable as to modify the behavior of the public into using the machines to justify their purchase. Instead of making a few people extremely wealthy by buying these machines, they would invest that money into actually providing security.
Real security would require paying those responsible for providing the security we seek, a living wage. If you want to recruit and retain quality people to actually take pride in the job of securing our airports and sky, you can not pay them like burger flippers. Instead, you pay them a living wage, you allow them to actually make a career out of protecting us. You screen them as you would an air marshal, in fact you make passenger screener an entry level position to be an air marshal. It would require continual training for such things are recognizing suspicious behavior, interview techniques etc. It would require access to intel from other government agencies,(no fly list, recent threat activity, contact with other airport security to learn from what other sites have seen etc. etc.) In short it would require leadership, commitment, and acknowledgment that short cuts don’t work, and pretending to secure, while making your buddy rich, and pretending to secure while violating civil liberties just doesn’t cut it anymore. The actual solution would allow this now dispirited and disrespected job, become a valued and respected career.
Fiscal Conservatives will tell me that all this would just cost too much, in this tough economic time… ok, then bring our troops home from the two wars that they are fighting that are not keeping us any safer, and draw the best and the brightest, retrain them, transfer them to homeland security, you have to pay them anyway.
The Government prefers to keep you scared, confused, angry at Muslims,(or at anyone other then them), and not using rational thought….. it makes you easier to control.
invalidresponse 11.25.10 at 8:55 pm
Now can you please pass the gravy?
TexasTigress 11.25.10 at 9:22 pm
Inv- umm I think you just said what I said in 107 but with fancy words and better spelling .
and Dances spilled a coke in the gravy
invalidresponse 11.25.10 at 9:25 pm
TexasTigress 11.25.10 at 9:22 pm
Then you and I are in total agreement TT!!
Oh crap Dances, if we just pour off the excess and stir the rest in… would it make it taste funny??
goofsmom 11.25.10 at 9:58 pm
TT & Invalid,
LOL… poor Dances gets blamed for everything…
invalidresponse 11.25.10 at 10:02 pm
GOOFSMOM!!!
Here try this gravy and tell me if it taste funny.
goofsmom 11.25.10 at 10:07 pm
Invalid,
Hey I’m not Mikey!!! Oh all right, hmmmm… uh, might want to make some instant turkey gravy…
invalidresponse 11.25.10 at 10:10 pm
oh geeeeeezzzzzzzzz… thanks goofs, lol
goofsmom 11.25.10 at 10:11 pm
Hang on a sec… I just happen to have a couple of packages of gravy right here…
DancesWithPumas 11.25.10 at 10:13 pm
Am I the only one who likes carbonated gravy??
goofsmom 11.25.10 at 10:19 pm
Tee hee hee.
Ummm… yeah, kinda old fashioned that way.
goofsmom 11.25.10 at 10:21 pm
I never knew that you could make yams/sweet potatoes in a pan instead of baking… where have I been. You all were hiding this info from me weren’t ya!
wontbackdown 11.26.10 at 12:46 am
Invalid:
I’m not ignoring you. I’m busy. Good points. I’ll ponder them and see if I have anything to add from another pov.
Notyoursweetie 11.26.10 at 6:57 am
Happy Thanksgiving!
This Morning Sneeze: rearranging the chairs on the deck of the Titanic
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2010/11/26/the-morning-sneeze-rearranging-the-chairs-on-the-titanic/
Notyoursweetie 11.26.10 at 7:40 am
Tabloids ordering you to go shopping
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2010/11/26/tabloids-black-friday-its-an-order/
Notyoursweetie 11.26.10 at 9:18 am
DUdie time: Most progressive President in 40 years edition
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2010/11/26/dudies-for-november-23-26/
Notyoursweetie 11.26.10 at 9:40 am
A second morning sneeze: Obama e-mails to the Nation
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2010/11/26/second-morning-sneeze-the-e-mail-to-the-nation/
HP Boston 11.26.10 at 6:40 pm
Mmmm everyone must be in a turkey stupoe…which is waaaay to much O’babamababamabush!
invalidresponse 11.26.10 at 7:44 pm
Corrective Rape suggested to fix the “problem” of lesbians in the Military
A Columnist for the Daily Caller started off with statements like “Lesbians should be allowed to serve, gay men (hereafter “gays”) should not.”
Then he goes on to explain a history lessen “It fell to men to swing through the trees and scour the caves in search of as many women as possible to subdue and impregnate” “Women had to be more selective because, then as now, the principal consequences of copulation were theirs: pregnancy; childbirth; most of the responsibilities of childrearing whilst their baby-daddy hunter-gatherers were about hunting and gathering and finding other women to subdue; and the ruination of their pulchritudinous figures. How our ancient foremothers ever managed to establish any choice in the matter is utterly beyond me when one considers that they did not have access to Mace, police whistles, Lady Smith .38s, or domestic violence hotlines.
He finished off the piece with this conclusion (which has since been edited out of the post) “my solution would get the distaff part of our homosexual population off our collective ‘Broke Back,’ thus giving straight male GIs a fair shot at converting lesbians and bringing them into the mainstream.”
So I pretty much read this as, let the lesbians serve and leave it up to the str8 GIs to “subdue and impregnate” them in order to change them over to heterosexuality. Right here in the Good ol’US of A.
link to the post (sorry after the conclusion was edited out already)
http://dailycaller.com/2010/11/22/dont-hint-dont-wink-an-immodest-proposal/
link to a post about the article
http://my.firedoglake.com/somethingthedogsaid/2010/11/25/daily-caller-columnist-let-lesbians-serve-the-striaght-soldiers-will-convert-them/
Headclunker 11.26.10 at 8:16 pm
Bobo has a BoBo
Obama gets 12 stitches after errant elbow to mouth
AP
WASHINGTON – President Barack Obama needed 12 stitches in his upper lip after taking an errant elbow during a pickup basketball game Friday morning with family and friends visiting for the Thanksgiving holiday, the White House said.
First word of the injury came in a statement from press secretary Robert Gibbs nearly three hours after the incident.
The White House did not initially name the person who caused the injury, but identified him later Friday as Rey Decerega, director of programs for the Congressional Hispanic Caucus Institute…
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101126/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_obama
By DARLENE SUPERVILLE, Associated Press Darlene Superville, Associated Press – 2 hrs 42 mins ago
BigCatLover 11.26.10 at 9:01 pm
Thanksgiving Holiday Miracle – Obama Smacked In Mouth
Atheists Beware! Deists have powerful new evidence that the Almighty Is Still On The Throne. It’s almost a Thanksgiving Holiday Miracle.
This proud and accomplishment blessed nation entered the long holiday weekend groped, radiated, exhausted.
The week began with international economic crises and with peace shattering deadly attacks from North Korean on South Korea. Barack Obama took to the airways, with crib notes at the ready (the TelePrompTer was on necessary holiday because Americans are noticing that even trivial announcements require presidential electronic tutoring) to announce a pardon of a pair of Thanksgiving turkeys named “Apple” and “Cider”.
At American tables thick with Thanksgiving prayers and hopefully laden with mouthwatering feasts of succulent dishes the nation celebrated yesterday. Along with the Thanksgiving prayers and silent reflections on the meaning of the holiday, millions of Americans whispered to their God a fervent wish: “Please Shut Obama’s Mouth“. Even a few seconds respite from the Obama drone of words would help sooth the oppressed nation. God Delivered.
And so it came to pass, that in the District of Columbia, a silence was delivered:
snip
Joe Biden perhaps rejoiced and considered himself temporary president while Obama was under the local anesthetic. Ordinary Americans perhaps scratched their heads and asked “Does this guy Obama ever work?” It seems as if Obama is on vacation during holidays, on vacation during the work week, on vacation on the weekends. Does he ever work?
But what was truly extraordinary is the name of another potential candidate which came up as the nation’s great benefactor in silencing Barack Obama if only for a few seconds. Here is how the conservative website HotAir explained the identity of the wonderful person:
“It’s cute that they’re pretending that they’re not sure who elbowed him even though we all know who did it. You learned a lesson today the hard way, champ: When you drive the lane on Hillary, you come strong or don’t come at all.”
Thank you Hillary, the nation turns its lonely eyes to you – woo woo woo.
http://www.hillaryis44.org/2010/11/26/thanksgiving-holiday-miracle-obama-smacked-in-mouth/#comments
Headclunker 11.26.10 at 9:59 pm
TSA is the Mother of Invention
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2010/11/22/2010-11-22_inventor_creates_tsaproof_underwear_to_shield_private_parts_from_xray_machines_p.html
DancesWithPumas 11.26.10 at 11:36 pm
Shocked! I’m shocked, I tell ya!
18 Former ACORN Workers Have Been Convicted or Admitted Guilt in Election Fraud
The scandal-plagued ACORN may no longer exist, but its tarnished legacy lives on in court, as the activist group and its former employees face criminal punishment.
So far this year, at least 18 former workers have admitted guilt or been convicted on varying charges of election fraud. The punishment has ranged from probation to several months of prison time.
ACORN, once a powerful advocate for low-income and minority voters, shuttered its operations amid plummeting revenues in March, six months after conservative activists posing as a pimp and prostitute caught on video some of the group’s employees offering them tax advice.
But the group is still facing charges in Nevada on conspiracy to commit the crime of compensation for registration of voters.The trial, originally scheduled to begin Monday, has been postponed likely until next year.
Former workers across the country already are being punished for their criminal activities.
In Miami, seven former ACORN voter registration canvassers were convicted of “false swearing-in an election,” and sentenced to probation and community service and banned from participating in future political campaigns, according to court documents.
In Pennsylvania, six of seven former ACORN workers who were charged in an investigation were convicted of unsworn falsification and interference with election officials. Four have reached a plea agreement on reduced charges and will serve two years of probation. Cases against two others who entered pleas to reduced charges are pending.
Charges against the seventh, Eric Jordan, are not being prosecuted because Jordan has pleaded guilty to much more serious charges, including aggravated assault, resisting arrest and carrying firearms without a license.
In Milwaukee, three former ACORN workers have been convicted of election fraud.
Last week, Kevin Clancy was sentenced to 10 months in prison for his role in submitting falsified voter registration forms before the 2008 election. Clancy will start his sentence once he finishes another sentence he is currently serving for armed robbery.
Clancy’s co-worker, Maria Miles, who pleaded guilty to election fraud in August, will be sentenced on Dec. 6.
In September, Frank Walton pleaded guilty to submitting 54 fake voter registrations during the 2008 presidential campaign. He faces up to 42 months in prison and a $10,000 fine when he’s sentenced Dec. 6.
In Washington state, Kendra Lynn Thill was convicted in March of voter registration fraud in the 2006 midterm election. In Nevada, a former ACORN supervisor pleaded the equivalent of a no-contest in a case alleging that canvassers were illegally paid to register voters during the 2008 campaign. But while Amy Busefink’s plea acknowledges the state had evidence for a conviction at trial, her lawyer said she still plans to challenge the constitutionality of the state law prohibiting paying canvassers based on the number of voter registration forms they turn in.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/11/26/acorn-workers-convicted-admitted-guilt-election-fraud/?test=latestnews
invalidresponse 11.27.10 at 12:45 am
Goofs???? are you around????
DancesWithPumas 11.27.10 at 12:47 am
IR
go to bed.
invalidresponse 11.27.10 at 12:48 am
nooooooooooo
DancesWithPumas 11.27.10 at 12:49 am
don’t make me come over there.
invalidresponse 11.27.10 at 12:49 am
come on!!
DancesWithPumas 11.27.10 at 12:50 am
Nevermind. I’ll go to bed for you.
G’night
invalidresponse 11.27.10 at 12:50 am
night Dances… want me to sing you a goodnight song???
DancesWithPumas 11.27.10 at 12:51 am
IR
hell no!! lol
invalidresponse 11.27.10 at 12:52 am
lol, the truly funny thing is that I don’t even have to send the link anymore for you to hear the song in your head!!…..
invalidresponse 11.27.10 at 12:53 am
oh crap that is scary… I have a direct path into Dances’ head…
DancesWithPumas 11.27.10 at 12:53 am
LoL!
You’re right. As soon as you mention “song”, my very next thought is: raindrops on roses…
and then I catch myself!
I owe you. I owe you BIG TIME!
invalidresponse 11.27.10 at 12:54 am
Where the Hell is goofs?? She is always around until you are looking for her!!
DancesWithPumas 11.27.10 at 12:54 am
I’ve internalized the torture.
DancesWithPumas 11.27.10 at 12:54 am
IR
send her an email.
invalidresponse 11.27.10 at 12:54 am
brown paper packages tied up in string…
DancesWithPumas 11.27.10 at 12:55 am
errrggggggggggggh
invalidresponse 11.27.10 at 12:55 am
I don’t have the vital info in order to be able to do that
DancesWithPumas 11.27.10 at 12:56 am
I do.
What’s it worth to you?
DancesWithPumas 11.27.10 at 12:57 am
tick toc tick toc…
invalidresponse 11.27.10 at 12:58 am
I figure if I just keep calling out for her here at the blog sooner or later she will answer…sooooo what is it worth to YOU to make me shut up on the blog??
DancesWithPumas 11.27.10 at 12:58 am
priceless
invalidresponse 11.27.10 at 1:00 am
I negotiate for a living… haven’t you figured out yet that you never win when you ask that question??
DancesWithPumas 11.27.10 at 1:02 am
I’m a slow learner.
PS I sent Goofs an email letting her know you’re stalking … I mean, looking for her.
invalidresponse 11.27.10 at 1:02 am
tic toc tic toc…
DancesWithPumas 11.27.10 at 1:03 am
toe.
I win!
invalidresponse 11.27.10 at 1:03 am
thanks… while you were at it you gave her, her stalker’s ( I mean my) email address?
DancesWithPumas 11.27.10 at 1:04 am
I did something completely insane today…
must go to bed and pretend oh no I didnt!!
DancesWithPumas 11.27.10 at 1:05 am
IR
No, I didnt. I don’t do that unless I’m requested to do so.
invalidresponse 11.27.10 at 1:05 am
you are the bestest!! whiskers on kittens
DancesWithPumas 11.27.10 at 1:05 am
Do you want me to send her your email address?
invalidresponse 11.27.10 at 1:06 am
this whole conversation does not appear to be a request to you????
DancesWithPumas 11.27.10 at 1:07 am
no.
invalidresponse 11.27.10 at 1:07 am
Are there forms to fill out in triplicate or something??
DancesWithPumas 11.27.10 at 1:08 am
Who wants to know and what’s it worth to them?
invalidresponse 11.27.10 at 1:08 am
183= yes (coloring in the circle with a #2 pencil to make it official)
invalidresponse 11.27.10 at 1:09 am
DancesWithPumas 11.27.10 at 1:09 am
quid pro quo
DancesWithPumas 11.27.10 at 1:10 am
IR
I swear, I can’t even speak it to myself let alone anyone else.
bad. bad. bad. bad. insane.
invalidresponse 11.27.10 at 1:10 am
a little afraid to answer that…
invalidresponse 11.27.10 at 1:12 am
now that does sound interesting!!.. why do I feel like a fish on a line right now??
DancesWithPumas 11.27.10 at 1:13 am
and, no, I didnt do anything illegal
invalidresponse 11.27.10 at 1:14 am
I wouldn’t have expected it to be illegal, what kind of reputation do you think you have with me?
DancesWithPumas 11.27.10 at 1:15 am
Ha! You don’t expect me to answer that question, do u??
invalidresponse 11.27.10 at 1:16 am
lol, which question??? check your email
DancesWithPumas 11.27.10 at 1:21 am
any and all
invalidresponse 11.27.10 at 1:22 am
damn that 5th!!
DancesWithPumas 11.27.10 at 1:23 am
and to all a goodnight
DancesWithPumas 11.27.10 at 1:23 am
5th? You drinking
again??
invalidresponse 11.27.10 at 1:24 am
goodnight!! raindrops on…
DancesWithPumas 11.27.10 at 1:25 am
ack.
and to all (except invalid) a goodnight
invalidresponse 11.27.10 at 1:26 am
the 5th amendment you just invoked .. not the 5th you keep in the back of the cupboard
DancesWithPumas 11.27.10 at 1:27 am
LoL!
invalidresponse 11.27.10 at 1:27 am
sorry, I know those 5′s can get confusing
DancesWithPumas 11.27.10 at 1:30 am
I’m sure you do.
invalidresponse 11.27.10 at 1:32 am
say goodnight again Dances… you might not have repeated enough times yet tonight..
invalidresponse 11.27.10 at 1:33 am
5 seems to be the number of the night
DancesWithPumas 11.27.10 at 1:33 am
lol
Go read Uppity’s Black Friday post.
goodnight
goodnight
goodnight
goodnight
goodnight
invalidresponse 11.27.10 at 1:34 am
Zee 11.27.10 at 2:20 am
Dang….does “get a room” occur to anyone else? :p
Zee 11.27.10 at 2:22 am
hmmmm….that was supposed to be
Zee 11.27.10 at 2:40 am
Dances… re #153
Using Acorn as a boogieman helps no one. Underpaid temporary contract workers are not part of some big conspiracy. In fact, they are just dumb people who were paid by the number of names they collected and thought they could pad that and not get caught….but they were, in fact, caught, because those things are double-checked…not to mention, even if they weren’t they would not result in people showing up to actually VOTE in the wrong place because they would have to have the name, precinct AND an actual address in order to be checked off the bona fide and verified voter roll and allowed to vote. And be willing to risk their ass in jail. The only ones who do show up to vote in the wrong place seem to be rich people who have multiple residences…but of course, charges against them always seem to be dropped.
The lowly list-padders as “evidence” of some sinister overarching conspiracy is just a sad non-story being drummed up by Fox, as it is by the rightwing every freaking election season.
Anyone with any knowledge of how lists are generated for any business…I’m in the lead generation business…knows that people try to pad these lists all the time. Different companies deal with it in different ways. Almost never by valuing the position enough to hire skilled people of integrity at a decent wage. Almost always they instead try to motivate performance by paying extra per name gathered…and then waste a ton of resources trying to “catch” the inevitable padding.
Zee 11.27.10 at 3:00 am
A must-read article by Hillary Clinton, exhorting the participation of men in ending violence against women.
From two days ago, on Nov. 25, a day dedicated to ending violence against women.
Naturally, it was published in Canada. We wouldn’t want Hillary’s leadership acknowledged here…especially on such an unimportant to Americans topic.
http://www.vancouversun.com/technology/Hillary+Clinton+Engage+boys+eliminating+violence+against+women/3884477/story.html
(ht/TGW)
Zee 11.27.10 at 3:19 am
Also, dances…not going to link to any one place on ACORN’s required internal review of all the lists, which is how the fraud has always been discovered in the first place, by ACORN’s required internal review, but a good place to start, for anyone interested who keeps forgetting my repeated warnings about this hype, would be wikipedia, which not only explains what the few percent “fraudulent” out of over a million voters registered consists of, but goes on to explain there are no possibilities of anyone being able to show up and vote from that. And they list their sources. This is old non-news, and very familiar hype and distortion from Fox. It’s completely common sense that 50 fake registrations that never make it to the voter rolls is a non-issue, except to those involved facing severe charges for trying to scam a few bucks.
Now, redistricting, on the other hand, is a widespread problem of corruption that very much affects the outcomes of elections. But it doesn’t make good hype because there is no one “boogieman” to falsely pin it on. It’s a geeky issue unique to each location, which makes it more difficult to capture national attention.
goofsmom 11.27.10 at 5:27 am
(((Dances and Invalid)))
You two make me laugh. It’s cool Dances, thanks for sharing. Sorry Invalid, I was watching a movie on the computer when you were looking for me. Honest to goodness, it won’t happen again.
Notyoursweetie 11.27.10 at 6:03 am
The Morning Sneeze: That’ll show her to vote for Hillary!
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2010/11/27/the-morning-sneeze-no-grandma-left-on-her-behind/
Notyoursweetie 11.27.10 at 7:43 am
and Saturday tabloids are here: Obama’s lip and shopping for crap
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2010/11/27/tabloids-fat-lip-black-friday-same-crap-everywhere/
TexasTigress 11.27.10 at 7:47 am
Zee , I’ll agree with you about ACORN in General Elections , BUT not in caucus votes . RAMPANT ,orchestrated FRAUD . Fraud that changed the face (literally) of the Democratic primaries especially in Texas and Iowa .
Massive , unchecked voter fraud , perpetrated by ACORN et al.
They were trained . They were organized and they were criminal in their actions .
Fraud .
TexasTigress 11.27.10 at 7:58 am
Invalid – Dances found out (on FB) who her “Celebrity Twin” is yesterday . I wont give it away but the name sounds like “Fustin Lieber” except there’s a J where I put the F and a B where I put the L .
her response ,”just shoot me now ”
I can’t stop laughing about it .
invalidresponse 11.27.10 at 11:43 am
TexasTigress 11.27.10 at 7:58 am
lmao
lololol
there is a link you HAVE to see, but I fear the repercussions of putting it here, check your email.
TexasTigress 11.27.10 at 12:41 pm
Inv !!!! LMAO ! Biebians
DancesWithPumas 11.27.10 at 1:27 pm
and here I thought what is shared on facebook remains strictly confidential between only a few million friends. How wrong I was.
DancesWithPumas 11.27.10 at 1:33 pm
By the way … My “Celebrity Twin” really is “Fustin Lieber”.
TT changed the F to a J And put a B where the L is just to make fun of me.
TexasTigress 11.27.10 at 1:49 pm
It is just too unfair to keep Invalid out of the loop !
Fustin Lieber !LMAO !
invalidresponse 11.27.10 at 1:54 pm
I, as OFTEN find myself, am in TOTAL agreement with TT!!
DancesWithPumas 11.27.10 at 2:45 pm
Zee 11.27.10 at 2:40 am
Dances… re #153
Using Acorn as a boogieman helps no one.
————–
Good points.
Me thinks you’re making this a bigger deal in terms of my intent than it actually is. People cheated / attempted cheating in the elections, were caught, will suffer the consequences. I for one am happy to learn of some of the outcomes.
Small potatoes, for sure, but still, happy to see their sorry asses thrown in jail, et al. AND, they were not all pathetic, homeless, down on their luck players… some were priviledged, educated, middle class creeps. My heart goes out to neither class.
By the way there are plenty of ways for the same person to register to vote in various precincts… and election boards are not a fail-safe.
I hope theyre also investigating oblow’s election campaign funding sources.
goofsmom 11.27.10 at 3:18 pm
Invalid,
You have mail!
goofsmom 11.27.10 at 3:29 pm
Dances,
#228 – I agree with you. It is the fact that the cheaters are caught and stopped. Not whether or not what they did caused actual voter fraud but that they even tried and almost got away with it. Plus the fact that Acorn really committed caucus fraud and should be held to a higher standard.
On the note that the people were desperate for money and because of that lied. Sorry I can’t excuse that, I can be pretty black and white about it. It isn’t just Acorn’s fault, yes, it was wrong for them to encourage it. It was also wrong for those individuals that filed the fake registrations.
As long as everyone is not held responsible for their lying and cheating this country will continue to spiral out of control. Maybe this is a simplist way to view things but it is the way I feel. This creeping lack of moral is flowing from the top down. I hope and pray that the FECK teams hard work pays off, because when people see that there are consequences even for “O” it may make others sit up and pay attention.
Pushing soap box under desk. (H/t Dances)
invalidresponse 11.27.10 at 3:38 pm
goofsmom 11.27.10 at 3:18 pm
What a coincidence… so do you!!
goofsmom 11.27.10 at 3:54 pm
(((((((((invalidresponse))))))))))))
Thank you, thank you, thank you!
goofsmom 11.27.10 at 4:09 pm
Re: 230.. simplist is simplistic. Replace the word moral with ethics. I really should read before I post.
turndownobama 11.27.10 at 5:17 pm
In fact, they are just dumb people who were paid by the number of names they collected and thought they could pad that and not get caught….but they were, in fact, caught, because those things are double-checked…not to mention, even if they weren’t they would not result in people showing up to actually VOTE in the wrong place
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Whether the fictitious names or dead people get to vote depends on how ballots are distributed. In mail-in states if you can get registered then they mail the ballot to the address you gave, and you mail it back.
There are other procedures in other localities, especially with absentee ballots You can’t just write off the possibility of actual voting fraud.
turndownobama 11.27.10 at 5:20 pm
wikipedia, which not only explains what the few percent “fraudulent” out of over a million voters registered consists of, but goes on to explain there are no possibilities of anyone being able to show up and vote from that. And they list their sources.
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Wikipedia is Bot Hacker country.
turndownobama 11.27.10 at 6:56 pm
((( hugs invalid )))
“are demanding EXCEPTIONS ” and “the physical assault by TSA security personnel escalates”
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Not exactly, “they” are demanding that TSA agents follow TSA written policies.
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I’d like to have a cite on that, or at least some key words that would find one. The version that’s going around is ridiculous.
wontbackdown 11.27.10 at 7:37 pm
Indian minister asks Obama to end US border practice of frisking Sikh turbans
By KATY DAIGLE , Associated Press
Last update: November 9, 2010 – 6:33 AM
“NEW DELHI – An Indian lawmaker from Punjab said Tuesday she had asked President Barack Obama to put a stop to the U.S. border practice of frisking Sikh turbans.
New U.S. guidelines put into effect two weeks ago no longer require air passengers to remove turbans if doing so makes them uncomfortable, the U.S. Transport Security Administration said.”
:snip:
The U.S. president said he would have a “close look” at the issue, parliamentarian Harsimrat Kaur Badal said Tuesday after the two spoke during an honorary dinner Sunday in New Delhi when Obama was visiting India.
“I’m very hopeful for a change. It sends a really negative message to Sikhs from the moment they step foot on American soil,” she said.
“It is a humiliating experience. For us it’s like telling us to remove our clothes,” she said.
http://www.startribune.com/world/106948503.html
I guess it’s fucking okey dokey for THEM to refer to THEMselves as “US” but the rest of “us” can’t say “them”?
Sounds about right.
DancesWithPumas 11.27.10 at 7:51 pm
Tough noogies
invalidresponse 11.27.10 at 8:16 pm
turndownobama 11.27.10 at 6:56 pm
Well, until recently it would have been easy to send you one link for you to read, but (as often happens online) certain pages have been changed or have completely disappeared…. but if you rummage through it.. some of the procedures can be reassembled.
Lets see if I can reassemble enough of what is left to make my point. (I believe my original point was that (those often called) “they” were simply holding TSA accountable to following written TSA policies)
“You will next walk through a metal detector” “Additional screening occurs when an individual sets off the alarm on the metal detector, or if he or she is selected for the additional screening. This screening includes a hand-wand inspection in conjunction with a pat-down inspection that includes the torso.” “At this time, you should let the screener know of any personal needs you may have due to a religious or cultural consideration, disability, or other medical concern.”
http://www.tsa.gov/travelers/airtravel/assistant/editorial_1049.shtm
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Removal of all headwear is recommended but the rules accommodate those with religious, medical, or other reasons for whom removing items is not comfortable. Transportation security officers have several options for screening passengers who choose not to remove bulky clothing, including headwear.
These options include:
* Trace portals (where available)
* Trace detection
* Pat downs
http://www.tsa.gov/press/happenings/sop_adjustments.shtm
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TSA has engaged in dialogue with several diverse communities and is committed to continuing to provide a high level of security while being respectful of individuals’ rights and liberties. To that end, TSA will:
Amend Standard Operating Procedures to provide officers several options when providing additional screening of bulky clothing items, including explosive trace portals, limited pat-downs and explosive trace detectors.
http://www.tsa.gov/press/happenings/sop_facts.shtm
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Hope that helps!
turndownobama 11.27.10 at 9:51 pm
Thanks, Invalid!
wontbackdown 11.28.10 at 1:16 am
Invalid:
Thanks for the above information from the TSA site:
Dated: October 2007
Then, there’s a Statement PDF dated July 2010, but of course new policies went into effect after that.
Here’s the new, detailed announcement, thoroughly explaining the procedures performed during Pat-Downs:
Dated October 28th, 2010:
TSA Statement on New Pat-down Procedures
October 28, 2010
“TSA is in the process of implementing new pat-down procedures at checkpoints nationwide as one of our many layers of security to keep the traveling public safe. Pat-downs are one important tool to help TSA detect hidden and dangerous items such as explosives. Passengers should continue to expect an unpredictable mix of security layers that include explosives trace detection, advanced imaging technology, canine teams, among others.”
Yes, that’s it. End of “TSA Statement on New Pat-down Procedures”
I would ask you to give us a play-by-play on “Among Others”
But, thank you anyway. Your up-to-date citations on TSA Security Procedures from 2007 were so informative, it was just like being there
invalidresponse 11.28.10 at 5:27 pm
I’m sorry WBD, I do not really understand your dismissive tone (at least I read it as that, my apologies if I have misinterpreted it) to the facts that I provided. Yes I understand that sections were dated in 2007, but it has been my experience that Standard Operating Procedures tend to not expire, they remain in place until deleted or changed. The web site that I pulled them from is an active TSA site, complete with updates and revisions. The sections are clearly still found on that site, I found no revisions that would suggest that the procedures had been discontinued. I just wonder what information that you might have that would negate my findings and deem them inaccurate?
wontbackdown 11.28.10 at 6:02 pm
invalidresponse:
I never intended to negate your “findings” simply look at the most recent data that to me explains the latitude the TSA is taking in it’s policies.
“among others” has always been used in the legal field as a far and wide reaching caveat to what may be included.
Beyond the most recent statement of the TSA on new “pat-down” policy and procedures, which covers the ‘use of a mix of security layers’ – all other policy and procedure disclosures mean absolutely zilch.
In one paragraph, TSA provided notice that they have all power to exercise whatever means they determine necessary, at their discretion.
It appeared to me that you were attempting to set the tone that reaction to TSA’s standard policies was over-reaction. Clearly, something has drastically changed in how TSA performs Searches and pat-downs, as reported by those who have experienced the “New Procedures” and the public’s reaction to hearing about them.
My feelings have nothing to do with the facts. Nothing personal.
wontbackdown 11.28.10 at 6:08 pm
Oh Invalid, the October 28, 2010 one paragraph statement that I posted as the latest Announcement/Update on TSA’s New Search and Pat-Downs Policy and Procedures, also came directly from the TSA Official site.
You have the links.
invalidresponse 11.28.10 at 6:40 pm
Yes WBD, I completely agree that the TSA is overreaching. The links that I provided were posted in direct response/request to turndownobama 11.27.10 at 6:56 pm.
With that in mind I truly do not understand your objection.
I think that you believe that I am arguing a point that I am not arguing, and I am simply attempting to clarify that.
invalidresponse 11.28.10 at 6:41 pm
that “the October 28, 2010 one paragraph statement” would in no way change the answer to the question ask of me.
wontbackdown 11.28.10 at 11:55 pm
Oh. I was also simply providing links to the source of assertions I made, “are demanding EXCEPTIONS”.
Next, I was simply stating an opinion, based upon the most recent data on the TSA website, which I should be included.
Gosh, it’s so darned easy to assume and/or misinterpret the tone, intentions, positions, attitudes, personalities, motives or biases behind someone’s statements and/or interactions between commenters, isn’t it?
wontbackdown 11.28.10 at 11:56 pm
which I thought should be included”
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