Hillaryis44
November 15th, 2010

A Boob Abroad – A Dangerous Narcissist Lost At Sea

You can’t spell “Boob” without “B.O.” The Boob was abroad for close to two weeks to escape the election results. Now the Boob is back, but not stone cold sober as a matter of fact. Indeed a drunk hobo would have done better than the American BoBo.

How bad was the Boob? Politico echoed that it was the “ten worst days of his political life”. He came home with “bupkis” wrote Ken Bazinet of the New York Daily News:
“WASHINGTON – President Obama is coming home from his overseas trip pretty much empty-handed.
After watching his party take a beating in the midterm elections, Obama wasn’t able to secure even a symbolic victory on a trip that was expected to give him plenty of opportunities to claim a win.
“This certainly was the worst 10 days of his political life,” said Baruch College political scientist Doug Muzzio. “Given that he’s not going to be able to get any domestic achievements with the Republicans in control of the House … if he doesn’t do it in foreign policy that’s a big problem for him.
“He came back with bupkis [Yiddish for 'nothing'].”

Back in April 2009 we wrote “World Leaders And North Korea To Barack Obama: “Sucker“‘ In those days it was evident that Obama was a boob but most of Big Media praised him to high celestial choir heaven. We knew better. This is what we wrote that April:

“The BOob is a pushover – that is the message from Barack Obama’s European vacation. The news from Asia is not much better as North Korea sizes up Obama and sees a dwarf.
World leaders sized up Obama and decided he is a celebrity wannabee. So world leaders gave Obama the soul craving celebrity he wants for himself and then smartly picked the pockets of Uncle Sam while Obama grinned.”

So who was right? Big Pink or Big Media? Last week world leaders treated the boob like the boob he is with a minimum of celebrity glad-handing. Soon even those displays of good will shall disappear and the Boob will be both literally and figuratively slapped in the face. It appears that Big Media has caught up to our analysis from way back. Here’s more from Bazinet on the missed opportunities and the boob in chief:
“Obama’s inauspicious 10-day, four-nation trip included a failure to land an anticipated slam dunk free trade agreement with South Korea.
It also included a botched effort to rally Western allies to press China to budge on a monetary policy that threatens to keep the U.S. economy in the tank.
Yet Obama appeared to shrug off the lack of results during summit meetings with the world’s most powerful leaders.”

This weekend Saturday Night Live added to the insults, citing Obama’s Chinese debt and even citing Glenn Beck’s gold promotion as wise.
[video]
By November 2007, we knew that Obama the Clown is a narcissist. By 2010 it was plain as the clown nose on his face that “Obama is a harmful Narcissist“. That once controversial analysis too is no longer absent from front pages. Indeed the front pages these days are loaded with insights from these Pink pages:
“Why has Barack Obama failed so spectacularly? Is he too dogmatically liberal or too pragmatic? Is he a socialist, or an anticolonialist, or a philosopher-president? Or is it possible that Obama’s failures stem from something simpler: vanity. Politicians as a class are particularly susceptible to mirror-gazing. But Obama’s vanity is overwhelming. It defines him, his politics, and his presidency.”

This latest article on Obama’s narcissism is filled with retreads of questions we raised years ago (such as why a barely 30 year old man writes, not one but two, autobiographies). There is the story about the “Obamameter” – a pretentiousness yardstick; the laughable “seal” from November 2008; the “Lebron” story; the reassurance that 2010 would be an electoral victory unlike 1994 because “Well, the big difference here and in ’94 was you’ve got me.”

Much more Hillaryis44

UppityWoman:
We are so sorry we forgot to say Thank You, Mr. President!
Posted on November 15, 2010 by Uppity Woman

“Apparently our poor under-appreciated President is disappointed that he is not getting the adoration he so well deserves day and night.
He does deserve adoration. All you need to do is ask him if he deserves it.
He especially expects plenty of ongoing adoration and compliments from the press just for Being. He got accustomed to that in 2008, when they not only fellated him daily, but deliberately ignored silly questions about silly inconsequential things, such as his competency, his experience, his associations, his Truth-Quotient or even who the hell this guy is. The Weekly Standard summed it up nicely. (Yeah, I know, but I wasn’t going to find this at MSNBC either)

Poor President Obama. He’s (allegedly) getting all these compliments from his fellow world leaders—and the press just isn’t interested in having him tell us about them. True, President Obama became accustomed, as a candidate, to having a compliant press corps. But even so. After a contentious economic summit where the president was forced to defend the Fed’s ill-advised monetary policies, a summit that followed on the heels of the biggest midterm electoral defeat ever suffered by an elected first-term president, a defeat partly due to his ill-advised fiscal policies, did Obama really expect a reporter to stand up at the end of last week and ask, “Mr. President, what compliments did you receive from foreign leaders?”
That is, apparently, exactly what the president expected.

…And recently in Australia, somebody said “Thank You, Mr. President” to him after he answered a simple question or something. Well, he was all over that one, telling the press how nice it is to hear Thank You because his “Folks” never say thank you over in that country he is supposed to represent but slams daily. After all, you are supposed to say Please and Thank You to a guy like Ferdinand.
So, I’ve been thinking: We’ve been remiss. We really need to thank President Obama for so many things he’s done for us.
I’ll get us started……”

Head over to Uppity Woman’s blog and add your “Thank you, Mr. President”.

Paul Krugman
The World as He Finds It
On Wednesday David Axelrod, President Obama’s top political adviser, appeared to signal that the White House was ready to cave on tax cuts — to give in to Republican demands that tax cuts be extended for the wealthy as well as the middle class. “We have to deal with the world as we find it,” he declared.
The White House then tried to walk back what Mr. Axelrod had said. But it was a telling remark, in more ways than one.

The obvious point is the contrast between the administration’s current whipped-dog demeanor and Mr. Obama’s soaring rhetoric as a candidate. How did we get from “We are the ones we’ve been waiting for” to here?

But the bitter irony goes deeper than that: the main reason Mr. Obama finds himself in this situation is that two years ago he was not, in fact, prepared to deal with the world as he was going to find it. And it seems as if he still isn’t.

Continues here.

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BigCatLover 11.15.10 at 7:01 pm

This is wearing me out having to wait while everyone else catches up to things we knew and screamed 2 years ago: Barack Obama is a narcissist. What a shock. Now can we move on?

DWP
Any background info on V. Thomas’ resignation from her conservative group?

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DancesWithPumas 11.15.10 at 7:08 pm

answered on previous thread.

BCL
No. I read a re-tweet of memeorandum by dakinikat on Twitter.

As I recall a couple of weeks after Ginny’s request for an apology from Ms Anita Hill, there was talk of a conflict of interest between Liberty Central and Ginni’s husband being a SC justass.

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BigCatLover 11.15.10 at 7:12 pm

DWP
I suspected a scandal brewing. Maybe she got out before it blew.

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DancesWithPumas 11.15.10 at 7:12 pm

BigCatLover 11.15.10 at 7:01 pm
This is wearing me out having to wait while everyone else catches up to things we knew and screamed 2 years ago: Barack Obama is a narcissist. What a shock. Now can we move on?
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Just imagine being HillaryIs44! Theyve been calling everything right along.
And, I don’t want to move on until everyone, at least those who haven’t realized it yet, knows who obama is and what he is really about. Obots are the slowest learners. I gave up on the few hold outs a while ago.

NOTE: Krugman, Tingles, and the rest of obamedia can kiss my off-white ass. Dipsticks all.

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DancesWithPumas 11.15.10 at 7:14 pm

BigCatLover 11.15.10 at 7:12 pm
DWP
I suspected a scandal brewing. Maybe she got out before it blew.
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I’m thinking it was just a matter of the appearance of impropriety. Preventive maintenance, so to speak.

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BigCatLover 11.15.10 at 7:16 pm

I’m being snarky but it’s like walking in molasses waiting for the media to call out the obvious. I want them to catch up and become relevant. I know, that’s a lot to ask.

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BigCatLover 11.15.10 at 7:17 pm

Virginia Thomas = crazy.

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Headclunker 11.15.10 at 7:21 pm

DancesWithPumas 11.15.10 at 6:12 pm

I think it is totally disgraceful that some of the bloggers here get nasty and tell others to go “stick it” when they express an unpopular opinion.
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I think it’s totally disgraceful for a commenter to praise someone who is against women and gays and lesbians on a blog that totally supports them (us).

You posted your opinion; Zee posted her opinion; I’ve posted my opinion. Opinions… everyone has them.

Typical day for Puma.
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DWP,

I was not objecting to Zee’s opinion, I was objecting to her telling the people posing here to “stick it”. That is not an opinion. It is an insult.

A differing opinion is not an excuse for abuse.

This is not the first time Zee has been with me. And she has been even more rotten to other PUMA. Members are leaving over it.

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freddiebrown 11.15.10 at 8:02 pm

Headclunker
It is good that you speak out but it is really pointless as it has been brought up so often by other Pumas who have been insulted and slammed for expressing an opinion. The “loudest” and most vile gets the last word in, it seems. We are all relatively intelligent people and can see the difference between a direct insult to a posted comment and a general expression of a different opinion expressed toward that comment. It seems a lot of folks here consistently lash out at other’s that don’t necessarily have the same ideas as them. Never mind that we are all women or democrats or whathave you. You just have to wonder and put up with these characters and move on. Of course many have left in disgust. I believe many of us have great lives, great jobs, and great life experiences…we know who we are. Let these people have their high points of their day.

There is an obvious clique in here – they have each other’s back. You cannot fault them. You either belong or you don’t. Personally, I don’t want to belong – it is not healthy here.

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DancesWithPumas 11.15.10 at 8:37 pm

How about continuing this discussion on the thread it was started on?

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DancesWithPumas 11.15.10 at 8:39 pm

oh, nevermind.
I think people forget all the times that they could have been called out and weren’t. It goes both ways.
As far as cliques… people with common positions, political or otherwise, often feel an affinity for one another.

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Headclunker 11.15.10 at 9:17 pm

DancesWithPumas,

Considering the Mission that this blog was founded upon, we need make an effort to be open-minded and respectful, especially of each other.

The ODNC has failed. What will emerge and what will PUMA’s part in it be?

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freddiebrown 11.15.10 at 9:18 pm

To quote Dances “As far as cliques… people with common positions, political or otherwise, often feel an affinity for one another. ”
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Dances – many people here obviously came to Murphy’s blog because they have a common political position – we love Hillary Clinton. It doesn’t matter if you don’t see how people here get insulted and trashed like we are the enemy because they don’t think someone with a different opinion or even perceived different opinion deserve the time of day. But your quote above is quite funny…the insulted folks here don’t feel the affinity you speak about. They feel insulted, stupid, ganged up upon. Where is the love ? Lets get real here. This is not grade school, girl cliques. We all have a right to express our opinions here as is allowed by Murphy. Even non Lesbians have a right to their own mind and a right to speak. As you have always noted in your private emails… speak even when your voice is trembling… or something to that effect. Perhaps you can encourage those with whom you have an affinity to take it easy on the verbal bashing. We are all women speaking our minds and we have a right to do it fearlessly here, of all places.

This is not a blog for a few bullies !!!

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wontbackdown 11.15.10 at 9:34 pm

Dances: Just wanted to let you and Pumas know that “Herlocaust.org” will be on FreeMeNow’s BlogTalk radio program tonight.

All support welcome.

Start Time: Monday, 10:00 pm EST | 9:00 Central |
End Time: Monday, 11:30 pm EST.
Where: http://www.blogtalkradio.com/freemenow/2010/11/16/the-majority-united

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goofsmom 11.15.10 at 9:43 pm

wontbackdown,

#14 – I’ll be there! (I run the switchboard for the show) ;)

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DancesWithPumas 11.15.10 at 11:32 pm

wontbackdown 11.15.10 at 9:34 pm
Dances: Just wanted to let you and Pumas know that “Herlocaust.org” will be on FreeMeNow’s BlogTalk radio program tonight.
All support welcome.
Start Time: Monday, 10:00 pm EST | 9:00 Central |
End Time: Monday, 11:30 pm EST.
Where: http://www.blogtalkradio.com/freemenow/2010/11/16/the-majority-united
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Excellent program! Thank you so much for letting us know about it!!

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wontbackdown 11.15.10 at 11:36 pm

Thank you soooooooo much for being there, Dances!

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wontbackdown 11.15.10 at 11:38 pm

Goofsmom:

In answer to your question in the private chat – (you logged off before I could get the answer typed) — “YES”.

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goofsmom 11.15.10 at 11:46 pm

(((((wontbackdown)))))

That is so cool!!! My computer decided to lose the wave, that’s why I disappeared so quickly. ;)

Thank you for posting about the show! The guest was great tonight. BJ is having her back on Wed. :grin:

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invalidresponse 11.15.10 at 11:48 pm

WBD, I’m not allowed to the show (banned):( but I will catch the replay when it it posted

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goofsmom 11.15.10 at 11:50 pm

invalid,

#20 – just click the link that WBD posted, it should be ready to stream. ;)

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invalidresponse 11.15.10 at 11:51 pm

K, will do

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goofsmom 11.15.10 at 11:58 pm

Dances,

It was fun talking to you in the chatroom too!

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Zee 11.16.10 at 12:15 am

Oh, Headclunker….I apologize….and believe me, I don’t keep track of who says what. My statement was meant to say, you know where you can stick that “makes a lot of sense” because I can’t stand that asswipe DeMint who is personally taking it on himself to prevent the Women’s Museum that is already paid for by private funds! But I can see how it sounded personal to you, and all I can say is I really wasn’t thinking about you, personally, when I was griping about him. In fact, when I went on to talk about Huckabee, I was actually agreeing with you that sometimes these dangerous pols can “sound reasonable.” People do leave blogs all the time and get into big huffs because this medium is so choppy. In real time, our exchange would not have been left hanging. I really shouldn’t come check in when I don’t have time to stay and finish any exchanges, but life is, let’s say, very “interesting” right now and leaves me very much in hit and run mode.

I honestly didn’t mean for it to seem so much like *a* hit and run!

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freddiebrown 11.16.10 at 12:21 am

Zee – you can explain it all away but you are a BULLY. Plain and simple.

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Zee 11.16.10 at 12:22 am

omg, invalid! hahahahaha….don’t mean to laugh but….there is someone other than me who gets banned?? And you got banned somewhere where I’m not?

:razz:

I got banned from newser, but still read there and am amazed at the pissing contests the boyz there have to this day. But calling out the pissing contests? Apparently not allowed.

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goofsmom 11.16.10 at 12:26 am

Zee,

I got banned from a church site… bet you can’t guess which one.. :shock:

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Zee 11.16.10 at 12:32 am

freddiebrown, I thought this place was so unhealthy and you were leaving? See….when you keep whining that you’re leaving, bash the people here, yet never leave, what exactly does that make you? :-?

I went back to the old thread, and saw Headclunker’s point. I explained to Headclunker exactly what I was thinking as I typed. The Huckabee post is still there, so it’s up to Headclunker now, to decide whether or not to believe it, and accept or not my apology.

As far as any of our past exchanges, unless I’m mixing you up with another PUMA, which is possible as I’m not good with names, I thought you’re an interesting business person and entrepreneur? I don’t remember any friction with you, per se. My political opinions are heated, for sure….but my motivation for shooting down any admiration of the likes of Glenn Beck, Jim DeMint, etc., have absolutely nothing to do with “bullying.”

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Zee 11.16.10 at 12:34 am

goofs, you got that right….no clue which one! Are you going to give hints…??

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goofsmom 11.16.10 at 12:38 am

Zee,

1st clue…. protest funerals

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DancesWithPumas 11.16.10 at 12:40 am

goofsmom 11.16.10 at 12:38 am
Zee,
1st clue…. protest funerals
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I loved hearing that those freaks got their tires slashed while they were busy protesting another funeral. I hope the counter action catches on!!

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Zee 11.16.10 at 12:41 am

Did you go on a site from that “church” that protests military funerals? Do they have a site? That would be a good place to get banned from for speaking your mind!

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DancesWithPumas 11.16.10 at 12:44 am

And I’m having a great laugh at all the dudes that are outraged about the airport body scans and pat-downs because :::gasp::: “they can see the size and shape of our private parts (junk)”

They thought it was a great idea when they fantasized about scanning women in their imagined role as the scanner operator. Turning the tables has the dudes in an uproar!! What are they so afraid of anyway??

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invalidresponse 11.16.10 at 12:46 am

yeah Zee,
True story.. only place I have ever been banned in my life. Apparently it is not allowed to hold people to their stated values… I pointed out one too many times that when you say you believe that the LGBT are worthy of their civil rights and then support people like Michele Bachmann, Christine O’donnell etc etc. and other vehemently anti-gay people in power (or attempting to be in power) inconsistencies exist. It tends to also make you a pretty good scapegoat.

(insert goat sound here)

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Zee 11.16.10 at 12:49 am

well….that’s seeing the silver lining, dances. Hmmmm….maybe the dudez can be good for something if they get this outrage shut down. I need to be able to fly to the west coast when my son moves there, and I’m not agreeing to any xrays or patdowns or body cavity searches etc.

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DancesWithPumas 11.16.10 at 12:51 am

Fred Goldhaber, 63, Dies; Taught at School for Gays
By DENNIS HEVESI
Among Mr. G.’s first students back in 1985 were runaways who had been sleeping in a shed down by the docks in Lower Manhattan where the city stored mountains of road salt.

One boy had hitchhiked from Ohio after eight teenagers dragged him into a bathroom at school, bashed his head against a toilet and burned his arm with a cigarette lighter.

Another boy, from New York City, had been abused by his parents after a teacher told them he was “acting like a faggot.” He was kept at home for a year — chained to a radiator, beaten and taken by his father to 42nd Street and forced to have sex with men for money. His father went to prison.

There is no way to know how many of the gay and lesbian youngsters who came under the wing of Mr. G., as he was known, went on to graduate from high school or just found the strength to make their way in the world. But for dozens, at least, he was a hero.

Mr. G. — Fred Goldhaber, the first and, for four years, the only teacher at the Harvey Milk School in Manhattan, the first school in the country with a mission to provide a haven for gay and lesbian students, died of liver cancer on Monday at his home in Jersey City. He was 63.

He had lived with AIDS for nearly 30 years, said his brother, Richard.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/16/nyregion/16goldhaber.html?hpw

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goofsmom 11.16.10 at 12:53 am

Dances,

#33 – The new body “pat down” sounds worse.

“Under TSA rules, those who decline must submit to rigorous pat-down inspections that include checks of the inside of travelers’ thighs and buttocks.”
———snip

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101116/ap_on_bi_ge/us_airport_security
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Looks like we will have to do a sign up sheet for renting the “Mock Turtle”, cause I’m sure as hell not letting anyone touch me like that!!!

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DancesWithPumas 11.16.10 at 12:53 am

Zee 11.16.10 at 12:49 am
well….that’s seeing the silver lining, dances. Hmmmm….maybe the dudez can be good for something if they get this outrage shut down. I need to be able to fly to the west coast when my son moves there, and I’m not agreeing to any xrays or patdowns or body cavity searches etc.
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Same here.

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goofsmom 11.16.10 at 12:55 am

Dances,

#36 – What a wonderful man. May he rest in peace.

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goofsmom 11.16.10 at 1:01 am

Zee and Dances,

Ding… Ding… Ding…. we have two winners!!! :grin:

Zee, if you want to get banned just type in the name of the church and google pulls it right up. I won’t sully our blog with posting it. Enjoy!!

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Zee 11.16.10 at 1:01 am

well, invalid…people don’t thank you for pointing out inconsistencies, but I think it is better to duke it out in the realm of ideas and argument, so you were fighting the good fight, and for all you know, someone may remember it later.

It’s too bad they didn’t keep you around, because people definitely do amend their views sometimes. The governor of Maine comes to mind. He said he changed his mind on marriage civil rights after hearing so many stories.

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DancesWithPumas 11.16.10 at 1:04 am

Tyner refused the invasive security procedure, recived a refund for his american airline ticket, then tried to leave the airport but wasnt allowed to leave. Apparently it’s federal law that once you enter the security area you are required to go through with the procedure.

Tyner started videotaping the procedures before he entered the area, so some believe he has set up his protest.

There’s been a call, prior to this event, that people do not fly on the day before Thanksgiving (doubt many will cancel, but still…).

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DancesWithPumas 11.16.10 at 1:06 am

Oh, and Tyner stands to be fined $10,000.

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Zee 11.16.10 at 1:08 am

#37 goofs….I’ve already been thinking about other mock….um…tools to thwart the body searches. Unbelievable.

Has the GLBT community been discussing this? Are people going to have to declare gender and/or orientation in order to get a disinterested patter? This is madness!

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DancesWithPumas 11.16.10 at 1:14 am

Why can’t they use dogs to sniff out bomb material. I’d rather be sniffed by a dog than patted down by a two legged one.

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invalidresponse 11.16.10 at 1:14 am

Thanks Zee, yeah I know.

Dances,
Maddow addressed (or rather tried to address) Ginni Thomas stepping down.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/#40205811

and just FYI she also did a great job of nailing McCain to the wall on his inconsistencies on….EVERTHING!!
His own worst enemy she called it,
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/#40205556

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Zee 11.16.10 at 1:18 am

Tyner may have been on the ready to tape but I don’t think he could’ve guaranteed he’d be chosen for the extra scan.

It’s outrageous that you can’t even leave!

OK, I must crash….and I’ll be offline for a while, so I just want to reiterate my apology to headclunker but won’t be here to respond either way…

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Zee 11.16.10 at 1:20 am

#45 dances, AMEN!

I think dogs would be far superior to the stupid equipment….they can be trained to sniff out cancer inside bodies! And they’d be far superior to the TSA hirelings.

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freddiebrown 11.16.10 at 1:30 am

Zee – you must have mixed me up with the multitude of people that left because of bully behaviour here and I have never said I was leaving.What? just so you could hijack this blog further ? I make it a POINT never to say that I am leaving. If I leave, it would be on my own terms and you would not get the credit !

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DancesWithPumas 11.16.10 at 1:32 am

invalidresponse 11.16.10 at 1:14 am
Dances,
Maddow addressed (or rather tried to address) Ginni Thomas stepping down.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/#40205811
and just FYI she also did a great job of nailing McCain to the wall on his inconsistencies on….EVERTHING!!
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McCain’s out. Has she focused on TehOnce’s inconsistencies at all?

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DancesWithPumas 11.16.10 at 1:34 am

Oh for Christ’s sake. Two threads worth already with this…
Zee explained and apologized to Headclunker.

Fuck it. I’m going to bed.

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DancesWithPumas 11.16.10 at 1:36 am

Goofs, Just in case you notice and wonder where the 2010 election links are … the 2010 fora have been archived.

‘night

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freddiebrown 11.16.10 at 1:37 am

Hey Murphy,
I watched Dancing with the Stars from start to end for the first time tonight. Did you ? I just can’t imagine Bristol competing with the likes of the Dirty Dancing star and Brandy…I just found out she drove her truck from Alaska for 5 days with her baby to get to Hollywood to train. Talk about women who smoke.
And at age 20 – such perserverance! I voted for her :) Hope she gets into the finals.

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DancesWithPumas 11.16.10 at 1:40 am

Even Reusable Bags Carry Environmental Risk
By MICHAEL M. GRYNBAUM
They dangle from the arms of many New Yorkers, a nearly ubiquitous emblem of empathy with the environment: synthetic, reusable grocery bags, another must-have accessory for the socially conscious.

But the bags, hot items at upscale markets, may be on the verge of a glacier-size public relations problem: similar bags outside the city have been found to contain lead.

“They say plastic bags are bad; now they say these are bad. What’s worse?” asked Jen Bluestein, who was walking out of Trader Joe’s on the Upper West Side with a reusable bag under her arm on Sunday.

“Green is a trend and people go with trends,” Ms. Bluestein said. “People get them as fashion statements and they have, like, 50 of them. I don’t think people know the real facts.”

There is no evidence that these bags pose an immediate threat to the public, and none of the bags sold by New York City’s best-known grocery stores have been implicated. But reports from around the country have trickled in recently about reusable bags, mostly made in China, that contained potentially unsafe levels of lead. The offending bags were identified at several stores, including some CVS pharmacies; the Rochester-based Wegman’s grocery chain recalled thousands of its bags, made of recycled plastic, in September.

Concerns have proliferated so much that Senator Charles E. Schumer, a New York Democrat, sent a letter on Sunday to the Food and Drug Administration, urging the agency to investigate the issue.

Reusable bags have maintained their popularity even amid charges that they become hothouses for bacteria. The recent studies, none of which were conducted by the government, found that the lead in some bags would pose a long-term risk of seeping into groundwater after disposal; over time, however, paint from the bag could flake off and come into contact with food.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/15/nyregion/15bags.html

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wontbackdown 11.16.10 at 2:18 am

invalidresponse 11.15.10 at 11:48 pm

“WBD, I’m not allowed to the show (banned):( but I will catch the replay when it is posted”

IR – I’ve heard from several others that they couldn’t log in.

But, I’ll see if I can get a ticket for a very special guest for Wednesday night’s Part II.

I’ll have to promise WE’LL behave. k?

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Notyoursweetie 11.16.10 at 6:41 am

This Morning Sneeze feeds right into the topic: Obama reconnecting with people. Again
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2010/11/16/the-morning-sneeze-obama-is-reconnecting-with-the-people/

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invalidresponse 11.16.10 at 6:51 am

wontbackdown 11.16.10 at 2:18 am

NO!!!!
DO NOT under any circumstances lobby for me or the principles I live by. I have been put in that position before (although I knew nothing about it at the time) and was accused of destroying a very longtime friendship. Please do not ever mention my name AT ALL. It will be seen as a betrayal and I do NOT want to see that happen again. I will listen to the replay and be just fine with that. PLEASE HEED THIS WARNING!! I would not show up anyway, I have done nothing wrong, and I will be damned if I will ever be put in a place be accused again. You know I back you and your wonderful project, I will listen to the replay and get all the info from there, please consider my screen name to be the “name never to be spoken there.”

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invalidresponse 11.16.10 at 7:03 am

DancesWithPumas 11.16.10 at 1:32 am
Has she focused on TehOnce’s inconsistencies at all?
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yep, fairly often she points out where he (and other Dems) are lacking, and inadequate.

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invalidresponse 11.16.10 at 7:14 am

Angry left to Obama: Stop caving
By Sam Youngman – 11/16/10 06:00 AM ET

“So can we please stop with this fiction that Obama is attempting to woo independents?” Hamsher said. “The things he is doing are not any more popular with independents than they are with the base. Just because something annoys the base does not axiomatically mean it is popular with independents.”

“Right now, every time Republicans are on the opposite side of an issue from the public, it’s the Democrats who cave and talk about ‘compromise.’ It’s ridiculous.”

“It’s not liberals that Obama is having a clash with, it’s reality,” Hamsher said. “And anyone who thinks his problems are just with the base is not paying attention.”

more
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/129323-angry-left-to-obama-stop-caving

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Notyoursweetie 11.16.10 at 7:19 am

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TexasTigress 11.16.10 at 7:50 am

damn it invalid … I really wanted to go give them a piece of my mind .. Those are my principles too … Well I will still go – shit what is another term for *itch them out ? whatever it is that is what I will do without using your name . If I can’t defend you , at least I should be able to defend me ..

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TexasTigress 11.16.10 at 7:51 am

pssst , inv , (whispering in the back of the room ) are you going to get down to see the lights ?

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TexasTigress 11.16.10 at 7:55 am

WBD canoeing this Sunday (the lake is beautiful right now ) I’ll watch out for the nightcrawlers :)

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Notyoursweetie 11.16.10 at 9:22 am

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wontbackdown 11.16.10 at 9:34 am

IR:

Damn IR – wish I had come back after I posted that insult to you.

You’re absolutely right and it didn’t feel right when I did it. My “appeal” was not going to be an appeal – but it’s not my show and you can defend your integrity – better than I, actually. The rest I completely understand.

My apologies, and thank you for calling me on it.

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wontbackdown 11.16.10 at 9:37 am

TT:

heh. Your Bees ‘defensive’ play, I suppose?

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wontbackdown 11.16.10 at 9:48 am

Seriously TT:

Would love to come over and meet you and yours (family) and menagerie.

I already have ENOOOORMOUS respect for them… ;-)

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wontbackdown 11.16.10 at 10:01 am

Yeah IR – what about that Xmas lights tour?

Texas, I would have thought that by now… you, of all people, could have instilled in Dances a better sense of direction… would the lights help?

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Delle 11.16.10 at 10:15 am

Another example of his narcissism. The man’s ego is so large that it’s suffocating!

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/opinion/print_709088.html

According to Valerie Jarrett “He is just too talented to do what ordinary people do”

A warning – reading this will likely make you feels sick!

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wontbackdown 11.16.10 at 10:29 am

Dances:

On the bag issue – to me, it’s a good bet if it’s 1 dollar or under it’s an overseas manufactured item.

People should have a choice to have groceries “bagged” in dated, stock boxes they came in and “recycled” back to the stores. That would cut down on some of the “Fossil fuel, tree or lead bag?”.

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DancesWithPumas 11.16.10 at 11:17 am

I have a few of those $1 shopping bags and I also have some old lightweight canvas shopping bags. I prefer the canvas ones… they’re softer and washable.

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Delle 11.16.10 at 11:20 am

After doing their own investigation, The Washington Examiner has come to the conclusion that obama is a total fraud!

http://www.examiner.com/conservative-in-national/investigation-reveals-numerous-bogus-claims-on-obama-resume

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wontbackdown 11.16.10 at 1:30 pm

Dances, I have a canvass one too!

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DancesWithPumas 11.16.10 at 8:45 pm

REMEMBER: Cell Phone Numbers Go Public this Month.

REMINDER….all cell phone numbers are being released to telemarketing companies and you will start to receive sales calls.

YOU WILL BE CHARGED FOR THESE CALLS

To prevent this, call the following number from your cell phone: 888-382-1222.
It is the National DO NOT CALL list It will only take a minute of your time.. It blocks your number for five (5) years. You must call from the cell phone number you want to have blocked.

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invalidresponse 11.16.10 at 9:12 pm

wontbackdown 11.16.10 at 9:34 am

WBD, I didn’t read that as an insult at all, I just didn’t want you to suffer the consequences that would have followed if you advocated for me to have a “ticket” to the show.

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invalidresponse 11.16.10 at 9:32 pm

TexasTigress 11.16.10 at 7:50 am

Save that piece of mind you would think about giving (you might not have it to spare) ;) Teasing just teasing (you open the door that wide and expect me not to come busting through??? You know me better than that!! :lol: )

They are good people over there, they are trying to do good work, sometimes the inclination to be friends with the enemy of my enemy becomes overwhelming for some and they forget that becoming friends with that enemy may just put their real friends in jeopardy.

There will be no fights to be had over there until (at least) the next election cycle, when decisions as to placing bigoted people into positions of power is back up for grabs.

( It is no different then what happens here sometimes, there are just more voices that sing in harmony here, there I was kinda singing a bit solo, it wasn’t until others began to sing with me that I became a threat to an agenda.)

It’s all good.

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invalidresponse 11.16.10 at 9:40 pm

TexasTigress 11.16.10 at 7:51 am

nope no lights for me this year. This is my last year here (correction..less than 11 months here) but who is counting.
So I am staying put this season. I will be back in that area sometime around or before next Oct.

Want to meet at the festival next year??

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TexasTigress 11.16.10 at 9:40 pm

inv. you’re right ..
I should have said a “piece of my ass” (more to spare) :)

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invalidresponse 11.16.10 at 9:42 pm

#78
:lol: tt, don’t we all!!… Don’t we all!! :lol:

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TexasTigress 11.16.10 at 9:43 pm

inv . hell yeah !

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invalidresponse 11.16.10 at 9:44 pm

TT, done deal then!!

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TexasTigress 11.16.10 at 9:45 pm

I meant hell yeah on the festival ! lol

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wontbackdown 11.16.10 at 10:16 pm

Inv:

I have a lot to say on this issue, because… well, because it’s right and needs to be said by me. Bigotry and Prejudice is Bigotry and Prejudice; I stand against one on behalf of one group and not another. I cannot make that fit, my heart won’t allow it, especially when that is a huge part of the problem. There is no special, single interest in Human Rights. They are for all not not some. And, if for some, then none are sacred nor safe from a bargaining table.

That’s all I have to say, tonight.

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wontbackdown 11.16.10 at 10:22 pm

“I stand against one on behalf of one group and not another?”

(I left the question mark off that in # 83.)

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wontbackdown 11.16.10 at 10:22 pm

Goodnight.

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DancesWithPumas 11.16.10 at 10:31 pm

Psychiatric help required after vaginal surgery
Jill Stark

WOMEN as young as 18 are being referred for psychiatric treatment after cosmetic surgery to enhance the look of their genitals fails to make them feel better about their bodies.

The head of psychiatry at St Vincent’s Hospital told The Sunday Age three women had been referred to its body dysmorphia clinic this year after undergoing labioplasty surgery.

One feels permanently ”disfigured”, has not had sex for three years and has become so anxious about the way her genitals look she is on medication.

Advertisement: Story continues below Professor David Castle wants mandatory psychological screening for all women seeking vaginal ”rejuvenation” procedures, to detect those with underlying mental health issues such as body dysmorphic disorder, a condition that gives sufferers a distorted view of normal body parts.
:::snip:::
He said the young women he treated often felt pressured into surgery because they feared men would not find them attractive if their labia did not conform to a standard seen in pornography, in which the labia are often airbrushed out.

Last week The Sunday Age revealed the number of Medicare claims for labioplasties had tripled in less than a decade.

http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/psychiatric-help-required-after-vaginal-surgery-20101113-17rx0.html

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invalidresponse 11.16.10 at 10:47 pm

wontbackdown 11.16.10 at 10:16 pm

can’t argue with that…
goodnight WBD

and goodnight Sister Pumas

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goofsmom 11.16.10 at 11:57 pm

Dances,

Just sent you an email with a great pic in it!

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Zee 11.17.10 at 12:15 am

#49 freddiebrown

“behaviour?” (sic)

what…you’re British or Canadian? As per your spelling. Not even American and yet taking some extraordinary interest in Hillary?

Maybe I do have you mixed up with the Puma who makes handbags or the PUMA who agonized over the woman she hired who never showed up on time.

My apologies, then, to THOSE PUMAs. If you are simply a FOREIGN antagonizer, then, I never said you were a drama queen planning to leave simply by your post #9

“Personally, I don’t want to belong – it is not healthy here.”

I was simply quoting your melodramatic claim that it was “unhealthy” here.

Stay or leave as is your drama queen desire.

:)

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Zee 11.17.10 at 12:22 am

dances, #54

omg… I argue with my “environmental” friend all the time about this.

Sheesh, I hadn’t thought about the paint flaking off, but it sounds par for course. The argument against reuasble bags I’ve heard is that no one bothers to WASH them, even after stuffing raw meat in them.

My argument is that I reuse the paper bags to hold paper recycle (we have a huge paper recycle in my house) and I use the plastic to pick up dog poop and also to line the trashcans in the bathrooms.

We need these discussions. I remember using cloth diapers when my boy was a baby. But in places like the arid southwest, where water was the most scarce resource, disposables were the most environmental in that area.

We need to take in all the factors.

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Zee 11.17.10 at 12:28 am

#69 delle

I kind of staggered when I read that Valerie Jarrett quote.

Not sure I’m ready to read it in full! :o

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Zee 11.17.10 at 12:29 am

#74 dances

omfg…thanks for the warning!!!

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Zee 11.17.10 at 1:05 am

Oh, and just to underline the difference between me and the MULTITUDE of my drama queen detractors.

Never do I ever go on for post after post, or thread after thread, calling out ANY Puma by name, for any reason. If I call out Glenn Beck or Jim DeMint, I do it because they are DEATHEATERS. Sexists. Scum of the earth. I don’t keep track of ANY Puma who is deceived by them. I merely call out the issue at hand.

And if any PUMA is chagrined, I don’t think they should be. EVERY last American on EITHER side of the spectrum is manipulated by this swill. We are every one dupes, and we are every one guardians, as the best we can manage.

I may be inelegant or downright clodish in my expression of the moment, but I swear, even if it’s only by early dementia, I will not be remembering “freddiebrown” or “headclunker” as any kind of standout “enemies” by next week or next month.

I do remember one, and she very well knows I remember (don’t you young lady?), one outright LIAR, and she should feel very proud for the exception I made in her case. I made it not on my accord but because she did not care how she derailed this place and other pumas with her lies. Even her I do not call out because she knows very well I laid her lies bare once and I would level her again if she joined in the suspect Zee-bashing.

It amuses me VERY much that no matter how much I remind her I remember when she deigns to pop up again, that she never acknowledges her lowlife scum lies because…how would she explain them? When first exposed, she fled. Very wise move. But it inspired me to make mental note. So she can NEVER play havoc with Pumas again.

But, I believe headclunker to be genuinely dismayed and freddiebrown to merely be loyal, so I again reiterate. Despite what past dubious pumas may have planted in the atmosphere….I may be vulgar or blunt but not anti-puma!

Headclunker doesn’t know me…but I am sadly without the natural boundaries. “Vulgar” doesn’t mean the same to me. I can see how “stick it” was hurtful in retrospect, but my animus was against DeMint.

Well, headclunker seems to be scarce…it’s 1 am here, so my late night check in is at an end, too….

sheesh, it may be thursday till I can return…an online eternity!!

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DancesWithPumas 11.17.10 at 1:20 am

Zee 11.17.10 at 12:15 am
“behaviour?” (sic)
what…you’re British or Canadian? As per your spelling. Not even American and yet taking some extraordinary interest in Hillary?
—————-
One can be educated in other countries. One can be a naturalized citizen. Don’t assume. Aside from that… lots of non-Americans take an interest in Hillary.

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invalidresponse 11.17.10 at 1:25 am

DancesWithPumas 11.17.10 at 1:20 am
Zee 11.17.10 at 12:15 am

not to mention spell check versions can really toss off even the best ace language detectives ;)

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wontbackdown 11.17.10 at 2:20 am

I got an long email tonight from a woman who’s life is fractured into a million pieces.

God I hate all of the petty bullshit. I hate trying to weave through what’s real, who’s real, who’s in, who’s out, gay, not gay, not gay enough, hates gays, conservative suck up, liberal sell out, progressive ass-hole, what mood one’s in, who they like, don’t like, who’s cool, a nut case, broke, struggling, fearful, hopeless, dying or dead.

The amount of fucking mental illness in this country is just fucking shocking.

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goofsmom 11.17.10 at 5:05 am

(((wontbackdown)))

#96 – I don’t know if this helps or not. I try to just focus on the main issue. Helping women, I don’t care who they label themselves as. We have to find our voices to help all women and girls and the rest of the petty labeling bullshit can go to hell. I am not going to stop helping another women or girl because she’s gay or straight, progressive or wing nut, liberal or republican, tall or short, fat or thin, blonde or brunette, etc, etc, ad infinitum.

We have to stop boxing up and labeling everyone. We are women and we need to help each other. That is the long and short of it.

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goofsmom 11.17.10 at 5:10 am

I am cross posting this from BJ’s site. It was written by FLBarbara.
—————-
Barbara

So it seems. With the profound understanding that the storm that rages inside is far more dangerous than the storm outside could ever be and if she is to survive she needs to climb back up to where she began her journey to survive.
———–snip
http://freemenow.wordpress.com/2010/11/17/barbara/#comments
________________________________________________________________
The post is long and the link above will take you to it.

FLBarbara,

You are always in my thoughts and prayers, I’m sending you all the strength I can spare.

XOXOXOXO

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Notyoursweetie 11.17.10 at 7:07 am

This morning, this woke me up with a start: Obama’s hand in your crotch
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2010/11/17/the-morning-sneeze-obamas-hand-in-your-crotch/

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Notyoursweetie 11.17.10 at 7:43 am

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Notyoursweetie 11.17.10 at 8:28 am

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HP Boston 11.17.10 at 12:08 pm

#74
DancesWithPumas 11.16.10 at 8:45 pm

REMEMBER: Cell Phone Numbers Go Public this Month.

links————————————If I am reading this correctly cell phones are restricted # for telemarketers? So is it necessary to call anyway? Please read the website links below from the FTC:

http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2005/04/dnc.shtm

Note that box at the top of the webpage for this one:
http://www.ftc.gov/donotcall

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freddiebrown 11.17.10 at 1:21 pm

Goofsmom / FL BARBARA :

I came in wanting to get FL BARBARA’s address and noticed your cross post Goofsmom. I wanted to send her the books I ordered recently.
All of them are untouched, brand new but I may flip them over before I send,
FL BARBARA said it really helped her when she was going though a tough time in her life and someone gave her the PINK book. If you’re here, Barbara please email me your address. The books are for the women you help everyday. Give them to whoever you want that really needs it – they can always pass them on to other needful people. There will be some cards included as well.
fred08puma@gmail.com

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freddiebrown 11.17.10 at 1:26 pm

I have no interest in responding to crazy comments. Life’s too short to NOT let people be who they want to be.

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goofsmom 11.17.10 at 4:12 pm

freddiebrown,

#103 – Two suggestions on getting FLBarbara’s email besides posting here. Please post request at the link I crossposted and send in a request to the actioncenter, it will get to Barbara by email, then she can contact to.

:)

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goofsmom 11.17.10 at 4:14 pm

Tonight’s Radio show is Part 2 of The Herlocaust.

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/freemenow/2010/11/18/the-majority-united
________________

Please join us tonight as we here more about this wonderful organization that is focused on helping women and girls around the world.

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goofsmom 11.17.10 at 4:26 pm

Okay let’s try that again…. #106 – Please join us tonight as we “hear” not here.

Sorry about that! :oops:

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goofsmom 11.17.10 at 4:30 pm

Even with a lame duck congress there were still enough Dem Senators to approve this bill and they chose not to.

UPDATE: US Paycheck-Fairness Bill Fails In Senate

A bill aimed at stamping out wage discrimination based on workers’ sex failed Wednesday because too few senators voted to move forward with the legislation.

The Paycheck Fairness Act needed 60 votes to move forward, and captured only 58. The bill would have amended the Equal Pay Act in a variety of ways, including limiting employers’ basis for differential wages, when responding to charges of wage discrimination based on sex, to reasons such as differences in workers’ experience or training.

The vote came in the first week lawmakers reconvened since the midterm elections.
————————
http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20101117-710350.html
_______________________________________________________________

Everyone in congress can talk all they want about helping families and the economy but when it comes to doing something substantive about it… pffft.

:twisted:

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simofish 11.17.10 at 4:36 pm

Hoping someone can help me out. There was a video made about all the media biased – it was about 9 minutes long. I think made by a Hillary supporter. I focused on the misogyny against Hillary.

Does anyone have the link?

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theamericanway 11.17.10 at 5:04 pm

Headclunker, you have mail.

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DancesWithPumas 11.17.10 at 5:42 pm

Obama signs order clarifying church-state relationship
By Dan Gilgoff, CNN

President Barack Obama signed an executive order Wednesday clarifying the ground rules for religious groups partnering with the federal government through the White House’s controversial faith office.

The order says that religious organizations receiving federal funds must conduct explicitly religious activities in a time and place that are different from when and where they do government-financed work.

But the order also states that faith-based organizations receiving federal dollars may use their facilities to provide government-backed social services, even if those facilities include religious art, icons, scriptures and other religious symbols.

A religious group receiving federal money may also keep religious language in its name, select board members on a religious basis, and include religious references in its mission statements and other documents, the executive order says.

The White House framed the order as an attempt to separate religion from politics, saying in a news release that “decisions about financial awards must be free from political interference or even the appearance of such interference.”

But a group that advocates strict church-state separation said the order did not go nearly far enough in that regard.

“I’m disappointed,” said the Rev. Barry W. Lynn, executive director of Americans United for the Separation of Church and State. “This leaves much of George W. Bush’s faith-based initiative in place. That’s not the change many Americans hoped for when President Obama took office.”

“I am particularly frustrated that President Obama still has done nothing to ban hiring bias by publicly funded religious charities,” Lynn said in a statement. “That’s the 800-pound gorilla in the room. No American should be denied a government-funded job because he or she holds the ‘wrong’ views about religion.”

At the same time, Americans United applauded the order for requiring federal agencies to provide alternatives for people who do not want to receive social services at religious charities and praised a new requirement that faith groups receiving federal money be listed on government websites.

The White House faith office was launched by President George W. Bush in 2001 and was retained by Obama, to the disappointment of some church-state separation advocates. Obama tweaked the name of the office, calling it the White House Office of Faith-Based and Neighborhood Partnerships.

While the Bush office was aimed mostly at helping to “level the playing field” for faith-based and nonprofit groups applying for federal money to tackle problems like poverty and substance abuse, Obama’s faith office has focused on non-financial relationships with faith and nonprofit groups.

The office has come under fire from Bush administration officials, who say the White House is abusing it for political gain.

http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2010/11/17/obama-signs-order-clarifying-church-state-relationship/?hpt=T2

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HP Boston 11.17.10 at 5:54 pm

Oh it’s puking time again……the more things change (not) the more they stay the same.
The O’once is the leader (use term loosly)of the one big hopeless party.

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Headclunker 11.17.10 at 6:40 pm

(((Zee)))

Not mad, just crazy and busy.

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goofsmom 11.17.10 at 7:20 pm

Headclunker,

#113 – How could they change, they kept Pelosi in charge.

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invalidresponse 11.17.10 at 7:24 pm

simofish 11.17.10 at 4:36 pm

Here is my shot in the dark.. (cause there are hundreds of them)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXfKW4Xx4Gs

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SheShePUMA 11.17.10 at 7:31 pm

Zee 11.17.10 at 12:15 am
“behaviour?” (sic)
what…you’re British or Canadian? As per your spelling. Not even American and yet taking some extraordinary interest in Hillary?

Irish-American, use that spelling all the time. Not unusual or foreign in my world.

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LJSNAustin 11.17.10 at 8:13 pm

simofish, I believe this might be the one to which you are referring:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcdnlNZg2iM

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simofish 11.17.10 at 8:37 pm

invalid – thanks !

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simofish 11.17.10 at 8:39 pm

Lana – yeah – that was the one – but they disabled the sound on it – pisses me off.

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invalidresponse 11.17.10 at 8:41 pm

simofish 11.17.10 at 8:37 pm
NO WAY??? there is no way I found the one you were actually looking for on my first shot???? DAMN, I’m better then I thought I was… :lol:

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BigCatLover 11.17.10 at 8:42 pm

Zee
I use theatre all the time for theater and colour for color. I was born and raised and have lived forever in mid USA. I think I got my spelling eccentricities from reading British authors. Doesn’t make me a spy or a plant at Pumapac to derail the blog.
P.S. I love Hillary Clinton. Cool down.

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goofsmom 11.17.10 at 8:48 pm

BigCat,

#121 – I took 4 years of French in High school, you wouldn’t believe how that can mess with your spelling. One word I always have to double check in minute… in French it minuet. Sigh!

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invalidresponse 11.17.10 at 9:03 pm

:lol: all these great excuses.. and don’t think I will not use them!!
Cause I just can’t spell!!!! :lol:

educated in the south is the excuse I usually use.

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DancesWithPumas 11.17.10 at 9:05 pm

BREAKING: 9th Circuit Prop 8 hearing will be televised LIVE on C-SPAN
November 17, 2010
By Eden James

By way of the U.S. 9th Circuit Court of Appeals:

United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit
Notice of Docket Activity
The following transaction was entered on 11/17/2010 at 3:54:16 PM PST and
filed on 11/17/2010
Case Name: Kristin Perry, et al v. Arnold Schwarzenegger, et al
Case Number: 10-16696

C-SPAN applied to televise live the case captioned above, scheduled to be heard in San Francisco, on December 6, 2010 at 10:00 a.m. C-SPAN’s request to televise live is GRANTED. A maximum of two (2) video cameras will be permitted in the courtroom. C-SPAN will serve as the pool-feed for all media organizations that submit an application.

According to another court notice, there will be two hearings, back-to-back. The first about the standing issue and the second covering the constitutionality of Prop 8:

http://prop8trialtracker.com/2010/11/17/breaking-9th-circuit-prop-8-hearing-will-be-televised-live-on-c-span/

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goofsmom 11.17.10 at 9:07 pm

invalid,

LOL….

Dances,

That is so cool! Penciling it in now.

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DancesWithPumas 11.17.10 at 9:13 pm

goofs
please repost the link to the blogradio program

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invalidresponse 11.17.10 at 9:16 pm

Goofs,
You know that there is a group of actors that did a re-enactment of the original trial using the transcripts from the trial… (if you are interested)
All 13 days, all the way up to the stay.
http://www.marriagetrial.com

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honora 11.17.10 at 9:18 pm

I don’t know why but the cool euro-spelling gets me a bit. My cousin moved to Scotland 12 years ago and her facebook entries often make my blood boil. Before the election she went on and on about whether or not she should “post her ballot” and acknowledged that she does not know anything about the NY politicians for whom she would or wouldn’t vote. I must admit that part of it is that she is an Obot and the other part is that when I lived in DC I was disenfranchised, but if you actually leave the country they still let you vote where you last resided. I don’t know but if you have lived abroad for long enough that you call you it “posting your ballot” then I think you should not do it.

Of course, this really has nothing to do with our discussion, but the spelling discusion reminded me of her and since I did not feel at liberty to tell her what I really felt, I figured that I would share it all with you. That’s is what PUMAs are for.

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invalidresponse 11.17.10 at 9:20 pm

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goofsmom 11.17.10 at 9:26 pm

reposting…
Tonight’s Radio show is Part 2 of The Herlocaust.

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/freemenow/2010/11/18/the-majority-united
________________

Please join us tonight as we hear more about this wonderful organization that is focused on helping women and girls around the world.

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goofsmom 11.17.10 at 9:26 pm

invalid,

you can listen without logging into chat

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PumaRhythm 11.17.10 at 9:27 pm

goofsmom 11.17.10 at 4:14 pm

Tonight’s Radio show is Part 2 of The Herlocaust.

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/freemenow/2010/11/18/the-majority-united
________________

Please join us tonight as we here more about this wonderful organization that is focused on helping women and girls around the world.
************************************************************************

Thanks Goofsmom….looking forward to the show.

*************************************************************************

((((((FlBarbara))))))))

(((Pumas)))

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invalidresponse 11.17.10 at 9:48 pm

goofsmom 11.17.10 at 4:30 pm #108

The vote broke down along party lines with the exception of sen. Ben Nelson (D-Neb.), who sided with Republicans and voted against cloture. Not a single member of the GOP broke rank.

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goofsmom 11.17.10 at 9:52 pm

thanks invalid.. ;)

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BigCatLover 11.17.10 at 9:52 pm

invalidresponse 11.17.10 at 9:03 pm

all these great excuses.. and don’t think I will not use them!!
Cause I just can’t spell!!!!

educated in the south is the excuse I usually use.
*************************
I’d try your excuse but my midwestern nasal twang would give me away.

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turndownobama 11.17.10 at 11:05 pm

Now Willow Palin is being attacked, with this very vicious letter.

Dunno if she really used the bad words, or if someone else is forging her name online.

http://nihilistic-kid.livejournal.com/1561145.html

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goofsmom 11.17.10 at 11:10 pm

tdo,

#136 – Don’t you find it ironic that Palin says she could beat O in 2012 and then Willow is attacked.

I could be whom ever I wanted online, wouldn’t have to forge anything.

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goofsmom 11.17.10 at 11:12 pm

BigCat,

LOL

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invalidresponse 11.17.10 at 11:14 pm

turndownobama 11.17.10 at 11:05 pm

SORRY I CALL BULLSHIT!!!!

Is WAS her facebook, and her sister joined in on the scuffle. There is no “attack” going on. ANY CELEBRITY’S kid that calls someone a “fa**ot on a social network is going to get repercussions. Anti-gay slurs are NOT OK, no matter who your mother is.

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goofsmom 11.17.10 at 11:15 pm

Dances,

I didn’t want to forget to say thank you, for archiving Women of 2010. :grin:

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goofsmom 11.17.10 at 11:19 pm

invalid,

#139 – I only saw TDO’s link. I can fake a facebook account, that’s all I was saying, find her pictures online to post, etc.

If, however, it really was Willow’s FB account then yes there should be repercussions.

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invalidresponse 11.17.10 at 11:27 pm

goofsmom 11.17.10 at 11:19 pm
It was no fake, it was her, it was a fight with a school mate who had said on his page that Sarah’s new outdoor tv show was not good… something like it was failing miserably or something like that. She first called him “gay” and then went on and later called him a “fa**ot.”

She was defending her mothers tv show with anti-gay slurs…. not acceptable behavior. A backlash SHOULD be expected.

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goofsmom 11.17.10 at 11:27 pm

freddie,

I just sent you an email. ;)

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goofsmom 11.17.10 at 11:31 pm

invalid,

#142 – Yes, indeed. It’s just the way politics have been the past couple of years, I tend to be skeptical because electronic media can be easily manipulated, and slamming of political women has become the norm.

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invalidresponse 11.17.10 at 11:33 pm

But, know you have the facts… (that’s what I am here for) ;)

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goofsmom 11.17.10 at 11:43 pm

invalid,

#145 – We are all here to help each other. Did you listen to the show tonight?

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goofsmom 11.17.10 at 11:50 pm

BBL – need to go make dinner.

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invalidresponse 11.17.10 at 11:53 pm

goofsmom 11.17.10 at 11:43 pm
no… I don’t go where I’m not welcome not even secretly. If WBD was there again I will listen to the replay later, there is less of a sleazy feeling to it that way for me.

WBD’s story on the replay really touched me (to the point of my eyes springing a leak) It left me speechless, a very rare position for me to find myself in ;)

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goofsmom 11.17.10 at 11:57 pm

invalid,

#148 – yes, she was on again tonight. :)

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invalidresponse 11.18.10 at 12:01 am

k, thanks for letting me know.
Bed time for me,
goodnight sister pumas

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lorac 11.18.10 at 12:25 am

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goofsmom 11.18.10 at 12:54 am

invalid,

#142 – What compounds it is she was being a “Bully”!

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Notyoursweetie 11.18.10 at 7:05 am

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Notyoursweetie 11.18.10 at 8:12 am

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BigCatLover 11.18.10 at 11:45 am

http://tominpaine.blogspot.com/
German Chancellor calls Bush what the American press was afraid to: a liar
Former German Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder, buttressed by other German officials who were present in an Oval office meeting with George W. Bush has called Bush’s account in his new book, of a meeting to discuss the invasion of Iraq a flat out lie.

Bush claims in his memoir that Schroeder promised that Germany would join the U.S. and stand with them in an invasion of Iraq, then complained that Schroeder couldn’t be trusted when Germany didn’t join the war ( a decision which if nothing else made Schroeder a smarter and better leader than Bush). But Schroeder says that is not exactly what was said. According to Schroeder, he promised Germany’s support only if the US could prove that Iraq was “sheltering” those responsible for the 911 attacks.

Schroeder didn’t mince words in a statement released the other day in response to Bush’s memoir, that Bush’s invasion of Iraq and reasons given for the invasion were “based on lies”. He called Bush’s rationale for going to war, “false and contrived”, something that was apparent even before the war but a fact that the U.S. press,including the soon to be proved incompetent New York Times and cable networks like CNN and MSNBC were too cowed and journalistically lacking to report ( I don’t include Fox since hell hadnt frozen over which is what it would take for them to criticize a Republican politician). The lone exception were two reporters for Knight Ridder who wrote articles, mostly ignored by the mainstream press, claiming there was ample evidence that Sadaam didn’t have WMD.

Joining the list of those caving in on the Bush Administration lies about Iraq was Mr. Integrity himself, Barrack Obama.

When it became clear that the Iraq invasion was in fact based on a premise of lies,while still running for the Democratic nomination with hopes of getting Republican votes if he were the nominee, Obama emphasized that if he became president he wouldn’t want to see an investigation of the Bush Administration’s lies that took the country to war. His exact words were ” I do not think it useful to litigate how we got into this war”.

That proved from the beginning that not only didn’t Obama have the judgment to be president he didn’t have the political courage to be president.
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Schroeder’s blunt truth, that Bush was lying isn’t just an indictment of Bush. It is more than anything an indictment of the press, how far they have fallen and how useless they are and have been in serving democracy.

There are no tears shed for the demise of Saddam. But it was Bush and Cheney lies, and their desire to use 911 as an excuse to get him, that threw foreign policy into chaos, needlessly cost the lives of American soldiers, allowed Bin Laden to escape, and didn’t accomplish what was needed in Afghanistan which we are still paying for today.

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Dragonfly 11.18.10 at 11:47 am

Facebook won’t come up for me – anyone else having connection problems? Maybe I complained about the government’s abysmal response to the oilpocalypse too much . . .

Happy Thursday, PUMAs! Knowing you are here comforts me. I’m afraid the Gulf is dying. My friends are sick. Corexit has been sprayed even though my state government claims it was not in my state waters. Well, I have talked to the workers who tell me they saw it happen. The clean up companies left oil behind and workers who wanted to clean it up were told not to complete the jobs. Some say the oil is still leaking. One doctor claims that we have to move 1,000 miles inland to avoid a slow poisoning death and that we should look out for brain cancer. I have stopped eating all fish and seafood. I have not been to the beach in months. The only water I will go in is a lake or an indoor swimming pool. I used to live in Paradise. Now I live in a poisoned place populated with Stepford politicians.

I got caught in the rain on Monday at the grocery store – we had no umbrella. I made the kids put their jackets over their heads and get in the car. My daughter wanted me to share the jacket but who cares about me. My childbearing days are past. You know, I’ve seen evidence that the dispersant affects DNA. People’s DNA could be changing because they have been exposed. Anyway, the next day I had a raging headache and was very tired. My throat has been sore all week.

I went to this task force meeting on November 8. I was so disgusted. The task force members went on about how happy they were to be there, looking forward to gumbo and music as they hang out in the Gulf states looking for solutions to restoring our ecosystem. I wanted to stand up and say, “why are you happy? this is the worst environmental disaster in the history of our country, and according to your own slide show, the economic impact will be devastating. This is not a happy occasion.” Plus they are UNFUNDED! And when someone did ask, why isn’t there a member of the CDC on this panel, Lisa Jackson, EPA secretary, said that the task force is focused on healing the ecosystem, not on human health problems. She referrred to others on the panel who allegedly were addressing human issues, but I guess she meant the fool from the Justice Department, which is the biggest joke since MMS. I wish someone had told Lisa Jackson, according to the dictionary, humans are a part of the ecosystem.

But I was too shocked and sad. The best part of going was getting to meet in person some of my hero activists. Kindra Arneson for one. She is fantastic.

My law firm is working on law suits. What else can I do? Writing complaints has always made me feel better, especially hitting the button to e-file it! This is a much better use of my energy that what I have been doing – escaping into crime novels, facebook games, and ice cream binges. I am so angry that I want to beat up Tony Hawyard and Bob Kaluza. I actually want to physically hurt them. It’s so contrary to my nature that it blows my mind. I’m going to have to go back on happy pills.

if you are the praying kind, pray for the whole ecosystem of the Gulf, humans and tuna alike. Did you know that Atlantic blue fin tuna will likely go extinct? THe gulf is their spawning ground. It’s over for them, I’m sorry to say. Corexit kills everything from plankton on up. Everything is dead and what is not dead is contaminated. That just keeps accumulating in the food chain because the toxin goes to the fat and never gets processed out by the liver. So, when you eat fish, ask where it came from and don’t take any chances.

I have not wanted to comment here because I’m so down. I miss you all and am proud to know you. Keep up the PUMA roar!

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BigCatLover 11.18.10 at 11:56 am

Dragonfly
Stay off the happy pills. Facing reality is never easy but you’ll have a head start when all this hits the fan and the reality becomes well known. Keep talking, keep blogging the truth. It’s mind blowing how a story so big can be ignored by the MSM, but certainly not the first time. Unfortunately, it always takes years, sometimes decades before the full story is told. somebody has to be willing to tell it. Thanks.

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