“Take one of them, . . . doesn’t matter who — and call them Racist”

If you say “rape kits” five times fast… It sounds like “racist”.
Just sayin’

Here are a couple of examples of the new disconnect in media coverage now. The headline is ‘Sherrod says she’d love to talk race with Obama.’

WASHINGTON – Former Agriculture Department official Shirley Sherrod said Thursday she wants to discuss racial issues with President Obama, who’s “not someone who has experienced some of the things I’ve experienced in life.”

Obama said nothing publicly about the developments while administration officials tried to both show his concern and to distance him from the original ouster. (Huh?)

And a sudden switch to the passive voice to absolve all parties of any direct blame:

The president had been briefed, Gibbs said, and “he talked about the fact that a disservice had been done, an injustice had happened and, because the facts had changed, a review of the decision based on those facts should be taken.”

In other words ‘mistakes were made’, but no one made them.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100722/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/us_usda_racism_resignation

Hi Murph and Dances! I’m down in PR caught in a tropical wave or something pouring buckets on us while PA I hear burns. Had to squeeze some time on my son’s laptop, but at least I have WIFI!
Unbelievable info on this post-I actually feel sick to see the evil revealed. Thanks though.
My cable pkg doesn’t include FOX, so I’ve been watching CNN and it’s almost RACE RACE RACE all the time. The coverage of Palin is mostly reluctant, critical, or dismissive. But Quinniac poll 7/21 says she’s more influential with voters than BO. Soory, can,t link.
bbl?

Former Agriculture Department official Shirley Sherrod said Thursday she wants to discuss racial issues with President Obama, who’s “not someone who has experienced some of the things I’ve experienced in life.”
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Yup! That’s why bi-racial boy of priviledge could afford to toss the race card into the mix… he had not more than a small clue of racial discrimination in this country, nor was he going to suffer the consequences of any backlash.

Just letting Feingold admirers know. I’m a wary supporter but he mostly is a true progressive voter (he’s male so I remain wary).
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Thanks. Smart to remain wary… they can and will revert on a whim.

From the Christian Science Monitor link above:

The Washington Post has already accepted the resignation of Mr. Weigel, who had been assigned to report on the conservative movement in America. But some media critics wonder if the Weigel case points to something larger.

“The big question for news organizations is to figure out how institutionalized [these views have become],” says Jim Campbell, a political scientist at the State University of New York in Buffalo. “Is the Post, for example, going to move beyond firing this one guy and look to see whether others have done the same thing? Are they going to throw Woodward and Bernstein at their own newsroom? I kind of doubt it.”

Hooray, one of them is gone from his platform and yes, that is the question.

Unfortunately, this is more like what I expect from the big media organizations:

So far, news organizations like the Post and National Public Radio, whose journalists took part in the list and have been quoted by the Daily Caller, are staying mostly mum about the scoop. The Post – which is at the center of the JournoList debacle because the list was run by Post reporter Ezra Klein – has declined comment, citing it as a “personnel matter.”

The Washington Post has already accepted the resignation of Mr. Weigel
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I hope this frakkin weasel is blackballed forevah!

“I made poorly considered remarks about Rush Limbaugh to what I believed was a private email discussion group from my personal email account.”

Believing her remarks were private makes it okay??

“As a publicist, I realize more than anyone that is no excuse for irresponsible behavior. I apologize to anyone I may have offended and I regret these comments greatly; they do not reflect the values by which I conduct my life.” -Sara Spitz

Yeah, right. She must have been channeling the values of someone else.

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2010/07/21/journolister-apologizes-for-rush-limbaugh-comment/#ixzz0uQHwEj00

Nancy Reyes poses the question in her blog post, will the Journolist story and its aftermath bring the moderate elements back to the Democratic Party? I’ve been waiting impatiently for both parties to bring back the moderate elements of their parties, but I don’t see it happening.

I feel bad for the coupla token women
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Unless you’re a young woman full of lust for men or desperate to advance your career in a man’s world, there’s no excuse for being part of this group. Not to mention it trashes all journalistic standards. Don’t have alot of sympathy for them, but should they repent, I would dain to pardon their ignorance. I can’t abide ignorance.

Court is to rule today on whether to drop all charges against Rod Blagovich (sp?) who decided to go mum and not testify on his own behalf. I thought he had been offered a deal by the WH to shut up so Emanuel, Rezko, etc. would not have to take the stand, but the news is reporting that the prosecution ended their case weeks before they were supposed to and did not call certain witnesses that were supposed to testify against Blago. so Blago’s defense team decided to stop now and not give the prosecution a chance to cross examine Blago. Maybe the WH made a deal with both sides. Maybe not.

In more Change You Can Believe In,

no charges will be brought in the 2006 case of the 8 US Attorneys who were fired for political reasons under Geo Bush

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/22/us/politics/22justice.html?ref=politics
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I was shocked to hear that headline yesterday. I need to read the story and see how they could possibly reach that decision.

Another victory for Executive power and defeat for simple justice.

Maybe we need to replace the Obama bus with a train. We can just keep adding on cars as the list of those ‘thrown under’ it grows.

#35
Unless you’re a young woman full of lust for men
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Not even then. While men have to jump though all sorts of hoops, earn more money, groom themselves, learn to stand upright, educate themselves, distinguish themselves is some publicly recognizable way, in order to bed a woman… all any woman has to do is walk up to any one of them and say: “Wanna…?”

“Yeah, right. She must have been channeling the values of someone else”

That’s funny! I think it’s an excuse we should all use more often. Sorry, I was just borrowing somebody else’s values for a few minutes.

yttik 07.22.10 at 11:21 am
“Yeah, right. She must have been channeling the values of someone else”
That’s funny! I think it’s an excuse we should all use more often. Sorry, I was just borrowing somebody else’s values for a few minutes.
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LoL!

Seems, Shirley Sherrod will be playing a major role in the help for wrong doings at the agrilculture department, that’s called a promotion. I knew it would all turn out right.

(((((pumaland))))))

She may sue BREIBERT—saw her on the early show this
morning—hope she does

“Blogosphere, please join me in celebrating the birth of Cabalist, the wittily-named successor to Ezra Klein’s infamous Journolist, the listserv of liberal bloggers, pundits and academics that inadvertently brought down (very temporarily) the ex-Washington Post blogger Dave Weigel, and which is now the subject of an endless and embarrassing (for certain former Journolist participants) investigation by The Daily Caller, which has discovered e-mail chains suggesting that certain Journolist members were secretly devising partisan campaigns to advance Democratic Party interests.

Hence, the birth of the heretofore secret Cabalist, which unlike Journolist, has only 173 members, rather than 400, but which in other ways resembles Journolist (such as in the propensity of Cabalist members to leak ostensibly private information to non-Cabalist members, including to yours truly). The 173 members are mainly veterans of Journolist, and don’t ask me what happened to the other 227; perhaps they were purged after being judged splitters in secret on-line show trials.”

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2010/07/21/meet-the-new-journolist-smaller-than-the-old-journolist/#ixzz0uR47sKoa

excerpts from the journolist:

http://dailycaller.com/2010/07/21/a-few-excerpts-from-journolist-journalists/

Dances, I dont whine number one. I tell you what. Why dont you post or twitter, “it’s a good thing Shirley had one of her kind in as President”, see what happens. I dont begrudge her saying it at all, I have been hearing things like this all my life as I have always had more minority family and aquaintance than of “my own kind” im merely saying you couldnt get by with in any context.

Good grief – accuse someone of racism based on what something “almost sounds” like?? ALMOST sounds like?? Haven’t we had enough of the “he/she’s a raaaaciiiisstt” kneejerk responses crap, because he/ she ‘almost ..’…..–insert offense here — ?

Eventually, someone WILL do something that’s racist & awful, and everyone will look at it and yawn and turn away because of the accusations of it that just weren’t! Can’t we reserve the ‘racist’ label for those that truly are, please?

Ousted official Shirley Sherrod blamed Fox, but other outlets ran with story
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/07/21/AR2010072106708.html
But for all the chatter — some of it from Sherrod herself — that she was done in by Fox News, the network didn’t touch the story until her forced resignation was made public Monday evening, with the exception of brief comments by O’Reilly. After a news meeting Monday afternoon, an e-mail directive was sent to the news staff in which Fox Senior Vice President Michael Clemente said: “Let’s take our time and get the facts straight on this story. Can we get confirmation and comments from Sherrod before going on-air. Let’s make sure we do this right.”

Sherrod may be the only official ever dismissed because of the fear that Fox host Glenn Beck might go after her. As Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack tried to pressure her into resigning, Sherrod says Deputy Under Secretary Cheryl Cook called her Monday to say “do it, because you’re going to be on ‘Glenn Beck’ tonight.” And for all the focus on Fox, much of the mainstream media ran with a fragmentary story that painted an obscure 62-year-old Georgian as an unrepentant racist.

Big Cat, I found it. It is a motion by the defense.

http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news/local&id=7568798

Shadowfax
We posted at the same time.

Aren’t we all tired of both Party’s and haven’t we all come to the smae conclusion, that both are corrupt and neither Party is working for the people, but to advance only themselves?
I left the DP, on june 3rd, after watching what liars and evil doers were doing to the only person on either side, who was capable and strong enough to take over the mess that had accumulated over the past 8 years.
I hope the Independents who left the DP don’t rush to the RP, just because of what is being revealed, but that more Dem. and Rep. leave and become Independents!Maybe by doing that, we will be able to shout out to both party’s, we don’t want you and we don’t like where you’re taking the country.

Here’s the link to the cheerleading is not a sport story:
http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/38347467/

sistermoon – I don’t get it .

SM- I know that part , but I didn’t understand if you were saying that he was being racist or he wasn’t .

Chickens Without Heads

More Gulf Drama
http://rawstory.com/rs/2010/0722/ships-ready-leave-leaky-storm-brews/

This is one great video posted on Hillaryis44′s new post.

You’re gonna love it!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psJGHGeLSeE&feature=player_embedded

Think the WH has been reading PUMAPAC? They’re pretty frantic about image right around now, and feeling the sting of criticism for not vacationing in the Gulf like Michelle told other people to do, so…..the Obamas are now taking ANOTHER vacation….in the Gulf:

http://www.newser.com/story/96259/obamas-to-vacation-on-gulf-coast.html

#16 BCL….interesting…I wonder if the Obamacrats moved to take his seat…I’m going to look up his primary opponent.

60/61…dances and sistermoon

I think we could “get away with it” in the same context Shirley did. Once when I witnessed a racist asshole harassing an elderly black man who had bumped into a car in a parking lot, I was thrilled when the police responding to the scene (completely unnecessarily called by the racist “witness”) were black. I thought good…”one of his kind” so he will know exactly what’s going on.

I was wrong, the trooper started frisking the elderly man and I stepped in to report that the bystander had made up the entire “report” he’d called in, since I’d been an actual witness to the entire thing. Turns out, police officers are their *own* kind, too. We can all make these judgment calls and find out we’re wrong, and tell the story…I tell this story all the time. No one blinks an eye over my momentarily thinking that one of “his own kind” would instantly grasp that this was a baseless charge, especially seeing the age and demeanor of the elderly man. But police have protocol to follow. I understand exactly what Shirley was talking about…and once you see that you’re mistaken, you yourself step in to help.

Zee, #83

The First Family really needs to take that vacation in the Gulf on the weekend of Aug 14th. Right now a Tropical Storm Bonnie is headed straight through the mess, surely washing oil scum right up on the shore. http://www.wunderground.com/tropical/tracking/at201003_5day.html#a_topad

Maybe they will have a nice bacterial outbreak just in time for them.

The oil leak has raised the Gulf temperatures and it is like a steambox out here. That extra humidity is going to be feeding storms all season. We are going to be getting “extra training” as emergency responders this hurricane season.

One of the Ethics Charges against Charles Rangel involves offshore drilling related kickbacks.

http://www.zerohedge.com/article/charlie-rangel-charged-numerous-ethics-violations-among-them-offshore-drilling-tax-related-k

I understand exactly what Shirley was talking about…and once you see that you’re mistaken, you yourself step in to help.
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Yep.

Rut ro mayb

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=181961

ELECTION 2012

Is this man Obama’s worst nightmare?
‘The One’ may have met his match in emerging presidential candidate

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Posted: July 21, 2010
8:34 pm Eastern

By Chelsea Schilling
© 2010 WorldNetDaily

He could be President Obama’s worst nightmare – a business mastermind, a natural problem solver and a black man of “substance” who says he would “take the race card off the table” in a challenge against Obama as the GOP presidential candidate in 2012.

Read more……

Here is a post I picked up about Nalco, producer of the dispersant Corexit being used in the Gulf:

[-] paintdancer on July 22, 2010 – 7:57pm

BTW, did you know that NALCO was at one time the owner of the infamous IBT Labs?

NALCO purchased IBT from Joseph Calandra in 1966. IBT was notorious for falsifying and/or destroying its data.

THE MURKY WORLD OF TOXICITY TESTING

June, 1983

Four Scientists are on Trial for fraud in a case that has cast doubt on the safety of 200 pesticides and on EPA’s monitoring procedures.

http://scienceonline.org/cgi/pdf_
extract/220/4602/1130

By the way, IBT Labs was the company hired by Monsanto in 1970 to test PCB’s. Now don’t you feel a lot better about BP’s choice of dispersant Corexit, manufactured by Nalco?

“I’m sure as hell using it in my real life, finally, thank God.”

#96 dances…. You, too? It’s hard, isn’t it? I’m not sure I’m doing it right, in fact, probably not. It’s more like letting chips fall where they may.

WBD #92

I do not know. UHD 31 was blacked out when I saw it. Supposedly they have decided to leave the cap on through the storm, last I heard.

The only good decision that could be made about that well is to get it plugged. The monitoring they have been doing does not go down any further that 50 feet or so into the sea bed around the 1,800 ft well. So they literally do not know what they are doing. That well is leaking somewhere.

WBD,

I got a look at UHD 31 and do not know what to make of it. To the best of my knowledge they are leaving it capped and getting out of there for the storm. You can check for updates at the Oildrum. The last node I was on was: http://www.theoildrum.com/node/6768

Headclunker 07.22.10 at 10:41 pm :

Well, on Skandi ROV 1 and Boa ROV 2 – it also looks to me like they are putting the Dispersant hose back in play.

I don’t give a flying fuch what they say in their goddamned press releases, that’s oil free-flowing from two pipe sources directly below the camera lens on Olympic Challenger UHD 31′s video screen.

Also, regarding the dismissal of the unfairly fired state attorneys scandal. YES, Zerobama wants to avail himself of the same executive power abuses Bush enjoyed. And I think this has a lot to do with why Zero let Dawn Johnsen’s appointment wither—she was eager to prosecute abuses that Zero had no intention of proceeding with:

http://thinkprogress.org/2010/04/09/dawn-johnson/

Salon’s Glenn Greenwald called the pick “Obama’s best yet, perhaps by far.” …Greenwald highlighted an article in Slate that Johnsen authored in 2008, in which she excoriated John Yoo’s infamous torture memo. Johnsen also sharply criticized the Democratic Congress for legalizing Bush’s surveillance program. …the Senate stalled Johnsen’s nomination for over a year….President Obama could have appointed Johnsen during a recent slate of recess appointments, but declined to do so.

Interesting, wbd…. “morning in America” all over again? I remember “The Morning After” in America after that particular con. Entire families sleeping and living in their car, their last possession.

wontbackdown,

#110 – that absolutely sucks!!! If your congress critters voted for health care, take to them and start a letter writing campaign to the editors of local newspapers and maybe send it to Fox and Beck or his ilk. They’ll talk about if just to slam “O” and his admin’s

RE: #111 – Also hubby said get lawyer, if she can’t afford post it on Legalmatch.com and state in description that needs Pro Bono atty and it’s a matter of life or death.

Goofsmom:

Thanks for the suggestion on the lawyer – I didn’t think of that – tell goofsdad thank you, too!

I’ll see her in the morning, so we’ll lay out the options. Her Oncologist said that she would start calling around to see if she could get an institution to donate the drugs or an org to help with the costs – but for some reason that didn’t set right with me or give me a lot of hope.

I don’t know, I’m just too angry over the insurance company’s position to see clearly right now. Maybe in the morning things will look better.

There ought to be an automatic law that if they refuse to cover medical treatment – they have to refund premiums immediately!

#110 wbd

I can’t stand it. I can’t…how the HELL can anyone be turned down for cancer treatment??

Let alone someone who ponied up for years?

For lack of $900 my friend, who lost her insurance when her husband was laid off, couldn’t even get a test to determine if they were treating the right strand of rare cancer she had!

She was homeless in the end….

Wontbackdown

I’ve seen unfunded patients come in through the emergency room for chemo, and they get admitted for the chemo. Might that not be a possibility for your friend?

Wontbackdown

Here are other things you can try for your friend…
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Other Insurance Resources

There’s yet more help, and it’s free, thanks to the growing number of advocacy organizations, some dealing with cancer only (or even a specific cancer) and others devoted to health care coverage needs in general.

When you’ve got a thorny insurance issue, here are some places to turn:

The Patient Advocate Foundation (http://www.patientadvocate.org), established by breast cancer survivor Nancy Davenport-Ennis, fields telephone calls via its hotline (800-532-5274) and assigns a case manager who sticks with you until the coverage problem is solved, whether that means one telephone call or dozens.

The National Coalition for Cancer Survivorship (http://www.cancercare.org) provides similar assistance through its toll-free number (877-622-7937) and also helps callers locate legal resources to solve insurance problems when the need arises.

The American Cancer Society (http://www.cancer.org), in the Cancer Resource Center section of its Web site, provides basic information on paying for chemotherapy, tips for keeping track of your insurance information, and “A Primer On Insurance Coverage for Women with Breast Cancer.” Its information line (800-ACS-2345) is staffed by volunteers who will provide the same information by telephone.

The National Association of Insurance Commissioners (http://www.naic.org) provides links to specific state departments of insurance and other departments that regulate managed care. From these state offices, you can get information specific to your state. You can find out, for instance, if your state has external review boards for appeals.

http://www.cancerandcareers.org/women/paperwork/health_insurance/

There are often health services in your area that you don’t know about until you hear about it. My son got help I didn’t know existed until someone that worked there, told us.
Go to women’s organizations in the area, keep calling and asking for help if these numbers above don’t help.

Don’t ever give up, if you hear the dogs, keep going!
Hugs to you and your friend.

goofsmom 07.23.10 at 12:09 am

Wontbackdown,

“I am so furious… Organize a picket, doesn’t have to be large, signs with rationing health care, AARP thinks I’m to old for Chemo, etc. video tape it and I will help you get it out all over the net.”

BTW Goofsmom: that is a perfect picket idea – the statement is so perfect!

“Rationing health care, AARP thinks I’m to old for Chemo!”

I love it! “M” will love it! She’s a fighter – and such an amazing joy! I’m telling you – 18 years later and she still surprises me everyday with how she is always “looking on the bright side of things”.

I can’t stand the thought of an AARP shutting the door in her face to something that she has every right to expect from them!

BillieJo 07.23.10 at 12:32 am:

WOW! I just copied and pasted your post to print out to show her in the morning, BillieJo!

I can’t wait to call her in the morning with all of this!

I’m going to make a prototype poster with Goofsmom’s picket idea too!
She’ll roll with laughter over the excitement of a good “we’ll show you who you’re dealing with” fight! LOL!

I told you all last week that she knows about PUMAPAC – and just loves everything that goes on here!

Thank you all! I needed some spark tonight for in the morning! Should have known where I would get it from!

(((((((PUMAS!))))))))))

http://www.cancerandcareers.org/women/paperwork/health_insurance/

Here’s the link I found it on, more info there…

I’m happy that I made ya laugh!!

goofsmom 07.23.10 at 1:09 am

“I’m happy that I made ya laugh!!”

You did! And, you just have no idea what a big kick she will get out of it! She’s going to not only love it – she’ll want it on a tee-shirt to wear everywhere she goes until she gets that Chemo – and probably during and long after! LOL!

It’s just so perfect for this woman!

Thank you! I’m better armed with some hope, fight and attitude for her than I was a little while ago.

Thank you Goofsmom, Zee, Lorac and BillieJo!

Goodnight! I’ll keep you posted!

((goofs)) thanks…I was just speaking of her last night to other friends…saying i thought we’d be elderly eccentrics together…

http://ecocentric.blogs.time.com/2010/07/22/oil-spill-the-gathering-storm/?xid=rss-topstories

TS Bonnie predicted to hit LA. It’s too early to tell, probably, but go the National Hurricane Center at NOAA for updates.

and at least one campaign adviser – that we know of – was on that list (updated).
Today’s tabloids
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2010/07/23/tabloids-corruption-kerry-rangel-storm-bonnie-boston-globe-last-year/

A chronicle of Obama’s behavior in the Sherrod mess
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2010/07/23/the-post-racial-president-in-hiding/

A bit of encouraging news. Smart Catholic women in London will greet Pope with an ad campaign on the sides of city buses on routes where he’ll be.

The message? “Ordain Women Now!”

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jul/22/london-bus-female-ordination-pope

The Baltic sea is at peril, too, thanks to overuse of fertilizers and horrible weather. Algae has created “dead zones” the size of Germany and is causing health problems for humans and marine life.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/evil-weed-in-baltic-sea-puts-marine-life-at-risk-2033399.html

LEGISLATION

Investing in Our Future Act HR 5783 (Currency Tax)

and

The Small Business Paperwork Mandate Elimination Act

And

Enabling the Nuclear Renaissance Act S3618

See at 411 on the 111 pumapac forum:
http://pumapac.org/forums/411-on-the-111/comment-page-7/#comment-445922

AARP = Always, Always, Ripping off People!!!

I hate those fucking rats, sucking off the elderly and hiding under the guise of caring for people. Just another corrupt bunch of corporate bloodsuckers!!!

I could not be polite………..

DancesWithPumas 07.22.10 at 9:47 pm
and Nikkismom, don’t fucking accuse my response as a kneejerk reaction. I’m damn tired of months, years now, even, of the tolerating dog whistlers, here and in real life. If I had an “ignore” option on this blog, I would use it. I’m sure as hell using it in my real life, finally, thank God.
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I would be more inclined to believe that it wasn’t a kneejerk reaction, if I hadn’t seen such reactions from you on this blog in the past. Including one directed at me (if you post long-assed paragraphs, people will think you’re a right-winger) – for which you later apologized.

The point is this: the charge of “racism” is a serious charge and should not be thrown about with such ease – or else it loses it’s impact and is cheapened. If you TRULY thought that SisterMoon was a racist, then why be POLITE? Shouldn’t there be consequences on this blog for posting racist comments? Wouldn’t you report that to Murphy and SM thrown off the blog, post haste?
If SisterMoon is NOT thrown off the blog immediately for posting racist comments / being a racist, then I can only assume that you’re not REALLY sure that she’s a racist. Therefore, why call her one?

I have no idea what is in SM’s heart or mind and I would venture to guess that you don’t either, especially on an internet blog.

Scarlet:

That’s true about Medicare, AARP 80/20 – and my friend doesn’t know yet “why” or “what” specifically AARP won’t cover and what should be their part – what Medicare doesn’t cover. They just called her right before she was leaving for her first treatment and said that AARP had rejected her treatment.

(Note: My friend has heard from others this morning who also said that they had heard of several others having trouble getting AARP to cover things this past year.)

However, she did speak with the doctor’s office and told them that she was angry and was going to fight this. They told her to come in this morning.

She’ll know more today – and was thankful to everyone for the resources, if needed.

So, thanks you too for the additional information.

Just to clarify my post 152, The Daily Howler is ridiculing the dufuses (dufi?) on Countdown who are discussing a NYT article on the Sherrod case….

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wbd….keep us posted on the lame excuses AARP came up with to dodge their obligation.

I have some good news – a story that gave me hope:

Calif. council accepts resignations of 3 managers

By JOHN ROGERS, Associated Press Writer John Rogers, Associated Press Writer – 1 hr 49 mins ago

BELL, Calif. – Three administrators whose huge salaries sparked outrage in this small blue-collar suburb of Los Angeles have agreed to resign, the City Council said Friday.

Council members emerged from an hours-long closed session at midnight Friday and announced that they’d accepted the resignations of Chief Administrative Officer Robert Rizzo, Assistant City Manager Angela Spaccia and Police Chief Randy Adams.

Rizzo was the highest paid at $787,637 a year — nearly twice the pay of President Barack Obama — for overseeing one of the poorest towns in Los Angeles County.

Spaccia makes $376,288 a year and Adams earns $457,000, 50 percent more than Los Angeles Police Chief Charlie Beck.

The three will not receive severance packages, the Los Angeles Times reported Friday. Rizzo will step down at the end of August and Spaccia will leave at the end of September. Adams will also leave at the end of August, after completing an evaluation of the police department, the Times said.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100723/ap_on_re_us/us_bell_salaries

Now, if we can just find a way to do this at every level – all the way to the top – and rip their parachute pension plans – things would change.

We are breeding these fuchtards at the municipal and state levels.

wontbackdown 07.23.10 at 10:35 am #55
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I would love to know how these high paying idiots got paid that much in the first place and what they did to even deserve anything close to making over half a million dollars to a quarter of a million dollars in salary. I smell a fish and resigning is just a token gesture. I wonder how many of them voted to increase their pay checks themselves – if you dig deeper, I am sure you will see some skeletons.

Will I be called Racist if I fire the first black woman to ever enter our lives to work for us ? It is almost 9 am and she called at 8:15 saying she just woke up. Still have not seen her yet. She’s been here one month exactly and is 52 years old recent transplant from DC and came with great references. WTF !!!

.152
Zee 07.23.10 at 9:54 am

Nikkismom, NOMB, and I can’t speak for dances, but just a word from my own online experiences…it should be possible to denounce racist messages that are being used to hoodwink a lot of people and have it understood that the person repeating the meme is not being called a racist.
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Zee, what’s “NOMB”? My netspeak dictionary is incomplete.
I agree that you should be able to separate a message that someone is passing along from another source from the messenger and them not be called a racist, but in this case, SM made a personal statement that was quickly judged as ‘racist’ by DP.

I didn’t see any denial from DP saying that she wasn’t calling SM a racist.

I.am.so.very.tired.of.the.”RACIST”.card.

I suppose I’ll be labeled a racist soon, for posting this.
Diversity and the Myth of White Privilege
Excerpt from the WSJ today – an article written by James Webb (D-VA)

Policy makers ignored such disparities within America’s white cultures when, in advancing minority diversity programs, they treated whites as a fungible monolith. Also lost on these policy makers were the differences in economic and educational attainment among nonwhite cultures. Thus nonwhite groups received special consideration in a wide variety of areas including business startups, academic admissions, job promotions and lucrative government contracts.

Where should we go from here? Beyond our continuing obligation to assist those African-Americans still in need, government-directed diversity programs should end.

Nondiscrimination laws should be applied equally among all citizens, including those who happen to be white. The need for inclusiveness in our society is undeniable and irreversible, both in our markets and in our communities. Our government should be in the business of enabling opportunity for all, not in picking winners. It can do so by ensuring that artificial distinctions such as race do not determine outcomes.

Memo to my fellow politicians: Drop the Procrustean policies and allow harmony to invade the public mindset. Fairness will happen, and bitterness will fade away.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703724104575379630952309408.html

Okay, I will weigh in with my .02 cents on the Shirley Sherrod matter:

What I find so interesting about the entire issue is what NO ONE is talking about in the point that Shirley Sherrod was attempting to highlight in her NAACP “speech”:

I interpreted her as using herself as an example – admonishing herself – and both blacks and whites to wake up to the real issue – the ‘misuse of racism as a means to divide us’ when we need to come together now, more than ever, on what is happening to the poor and middle-class America.

She re-engaged with the white farmer’s circumstances because she realized that ‘injustice is injustice’ and the ‘kind that is being affected’ is people – and the problem is people verses bureaucracy, accessibility and power.

Not her exact words – but what I heard as the point she was attempting to make, thus, her intent for using that particular story – which impressed me, given the audience was the NAACP with “AA progress” being the focus of their organization.

In other words – the poor, middle class America, Black, White, Latino, Asian or any other color, is now the under-represented – “the new black”.

That’s what I heard – the rest is a bunch of racial rhetoric that obscures the fact that she was saying that what has happened to average farmers is happening to all average America – and remaining ‘divided is only going to hurt us all.’

sistermoon3 07.23.10 at 12:16 pm

“It’s always been so in historical proportions.”

Yes, sistermoon, and the fuching fact that we did so little to stop the RICH, WHITE MAN’S POWER-GRAB exploitation of Blacks, the Poor and Women by demanding a “Model Society of Equality” has come back to bite us all in the ass.

or, is it “further”?

Gotta go.

Nikkismom, thanks for the link to Webb’s article…gonna go read it. As for “horizontal warfare” —-um, I’m going to look up that phrase, too, and hope there’s no corresponding or similar, um, sexual terminology…!

BCL- #174 – That wasn’t me at 167….unless you’re pointing to it to say I should read it. I’m not arguing about Ms. Sherrod. I’m referring to the “racist” charge that DWP leveled at Sistermoon at #60 above.

Seems to me that accusing Sistermoon on this blog of being a racist for expressing her opinion about an incident that was just about manufactured by the media in the first place ; is the same exact thing that the journolists did .. and we cannot even have an open honest discussion without being called racist here on this blog just fucking SUCKS … so go ahead call me a racist too …go ahead ………. I have heard it before from obots.. can we play an obot card in this game too ?

“Yes, sistermoon, and the fuching fact that we did so little to stop the RICH, WHITE MAN’S POWER-GRAB exploitation of Blacks, the Poor and Women by demanding a “Model Society of Equality” has come back to bite us all in the ass.”
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ that is not the way the constitution is constructed, that is not what this entire country was based upon, it is what some chose to do, i was a little girl when all that crap was happeneing, thank God, we have moved on.
Thank God I wasnt taught to not hate the rich man either..
HATE… is never a teachable moment

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All I know is today when I woke up and came here after doing my usually surfing, I came here to see what was up.
I was sad. I would rather be mad than sad. But, after having
many of the hours of the day to pass that i let it steal any joy in the day i thought, heck, this is soooooo small in comparison to people like Hillary Clinton or Sarah Palin, I should be grateful this is bad as it gets.
thanks ladies

NikkisMom 07.23.10 at 1:25 pm

BCL- #174 – That wasn’t me at 167….unless you’re pointing to it to say I should read it. I’m not arguing about Ms. Sherrod. I’m referring to the “racist” charge that DWP leveled at Sistermoon at #60 above.
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I’m so sorry, I obviously didn’t look at the name closely. And I would not suggest that someine read a post without actually saying that. I just thought it sounded like the person who wrote that comment came into the story late and misunderstood the ramifications. As to the current discussion/disagreement on whether comments here are racist, I don’t have an opinion.

Polls: Both Clintons now more popular than Obama
http://www.examiner.com/x-19823-PostPartisan-Examiner~y2010m7d22-Polls-Both-Clintons-now-more-popular-than-Obama

Anyone hear of the author of the this article?
“D.K. Jamaal is an educator, entertainer, and co-founder of the PUMA (Party Unity My A–!) political movement. He was born in Savannah, GA the son of a public school principal and a military vet. He was an Atlanta Journal-Constitution Scholar and a Warner Brothers Fellow in Cinema-Television Critical Studies and Screenwriting at the University of Southern California. Formerly a script analyst for Warner Brothers and a volunteer for several political campaigns, he currently pals around with surfers, teachers, and musicians, residing in a bungalow on the California coast.”

Swannie, no doubt, but calling out a RACIST meme that is repeated here is not calling a person racist. The person may just be repeating a racist meme that has not been thought through.

Implying that Shirley “got away” with something is offensive and untrue.

And now for something really, really, really different. It’s vulgar….but very very funny and I’m sure I owe everyone a guilty guffaw, or at least a shocked snicker.

Don’t ask. OK, fine, ask. I was at a poet’s site and he listed this as amongst his favorite sites. Since he’s gay, I thought it was perhaps a blog of musing on being male, or whatever. The site is called “Accidental Penis.” It’s pretty amusing, and addicting, and the idea is that people send in pictures of snails and kitchen implements and product designs, etc, that accidentally look like penises.

Here one of the pages. Scroll down. You will not be sorry. Warning: do not be drinking coffee.

http://accidentalpenis.com/page/8

Zee,

My computer settings won’t let me see the pictures… Trying to reset them…

Zee,

It opened that time… LOL… Like the last picture best!!!

PUMAs – please don’t get into it on race. That’s when the Obots win! Just look for the best in each other; remember that without a tone of voice or facial expression, the words in print can be misunderstood; and ROAR outward not internally.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdCscOr-jGU

Youtube of a new song with footage from Gregg Hall, of Pensacola, who does a daily video of my beach. Gregg has a facebook page, True Reporting on the Gulf Oil Spill.

I’ve been painting, at a beach in my RV.
iPhone sucks for blogging.

Short version:
ZEE
87-yep.
152- yep. ESP when they’ve been repeated and alluded to consistently over time.
172- yep.

Freddie, if you’re firing her because of her race, it’s racism. Would you fire her for the sane reasons if she were any other race? That’s the test for that question.

“she did say things that none of you (white and other races aside from black) would get away with”
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assumption/opinion stated not exactly an invitation for discussion. And similar things have been said in the US for at least 200 years by the white power majority. Just in case anyone didn’t know that.

Swannie, see above re “discussion”.
And don’t try to convince mr that you don’t recognize dog-whistling when it involves Israel – anti-semitism.

Nikki calling out, bringing attention to racism isn’t akin to playing the race card. The race card is used to manipulate when when the issue has zero to do with race.

ZEE. 99
Ben tolerating crap these past two years only, for “the sake of the over-riding cause”. I consider it a major lapse on my part, and an affront to who I am. Cleaning house… Not making excuses for anyone any more; nit ignoring some of the appalling things I’ve heard people write and say. Life us too short to sacrifice personal principles in toleration of others, no matter the overriding cause.

Dragonfly 07.23.10 at 5:56 pm

http://www.truth-out.org/toxic-dispersants-causing-widespread-illness61604

Texas Tigress, check this out. New Orleans PUMA, are you there? We miss you.
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I sent this to Drudge .. Maybe if enough people send it in , they will have to report on it ..

I’m entitled to my opinions too.
Repeating one phrase, way out of context, and begrudging the assumption that no one else ( read: white) could get away with that, is not an invitation to rational discussion.
Last I heard, this blog was not formed to bolster the republican party nor rightwing memes. So why repeat them, especially since the one cited was debunked when viewed in context, in it’s entirety?

Dances – If I had any intention to fire her for her race, I wouldn’t have hired her in the first place, as I could see clearly that she is black when I hired her. My question in hind sight was, if I fired her because of incompetence and tardiness, would it be seen as racist. Not that I am worried or anything – it was just a random rhetorical question. Incidentally, I had no idea that this person I had hired had endured 19 years of physical abuse from her ex husband and obviously had baggage with her. She walked in at 9:15 am (1:15 hours late) and did not offer up an apology but was on the defensive when I asked her what this is all about. I don’t mince words and she got that she cannot play victim nor expect me to pander to her past. I don’t have a lot of experience with someone who has been through abuse and I really don’t want to deal with her shutting down mentally.

Dances , I see that you decide what gets to be called a meme , what constitutes opinions and, when you can call someone a racist , and who is bs . Since you think so highly of my opinion , and instead of having a civil conversation, you just decide you can go off on anyone here when ever you get “fed up “..but if anyone else does, they are just BS, you can keep your opinions , as your opinion are obviously the only ones that matter to you . You are already in an echo chamber of your own making .

If I were in charge, I would tell everyone to read about a woman who is dead or seriously injured or frightened over in the Women Lynching Forum to remind yourself that there are bigger problems than reading into what someone writes in a comment about race.

freddiebrown, your story about your employee caught my attention. did you know my specialty is employment law? I’ve represented both sides for nearly fifteen years.

I am excited PUMAs because I am going to see Murphy. I will give her hugs from all of you. Murphy, you got through your first week. ((Murphy))

Dragonfly, that is great you get to see Murphy! And I’m glad you and goofs at least got to see the silly, gross (but not explicit) image that I posted upthread.

And I have to disagree about the discussion here. To continue to smear a woman, a lifelong activist, who stood up to the White House, even after they lied that it wasn’t the White House who forced her off the road and harassed her to resign, who stood up for herself and spoke the truth about Obama’s utter inexperience, is an issue that is important to address.

Honestly, I have no clue why anyone is bent out of shape by the conversation. The issues are both clear and important.

freddiebrown, I kept thinking about this story today. I saw it from another source which mentioned that whoever saw that vehicle also saw the girl struggle NOT to be taken.

First of all, WHO saw? Not only did this girl do the right thing, which was to struggle at the snatching, because you do NOT want to be taken, but she was seen struggling. How is it that this info was fed to police? We’re not told, but if I saw this struggle, I would pursue. Weapon is one thing…citizen involvement is another.

I smell smoke…speaking of involvement…going outside to check on neighborhood…

I decided to wait, Goofsmom.

This feels like when my parents were “terminally” ill – the roller coaster ride through the medical profession can be hazardous to attitudes. You are really at their mercy of decision making – and once the insurance providers start weighing in with their “approval” perimeters, it’s anyone’s guess what’s actually behind the decisions being made. That, in itself, is the last thing you want to discuss, for obvious reasons.

It seems that each time, with each individual, I am forced to reorganize my thoughts and actions around the uncertainty of “hope.”

After just actively listening this morning, I think I’m finally getting better at letting a “terminally ill” loved one take the lead in how they need to emotionally deal with things.

I’ve fuched that up in the past and, in hindsight, I missed a lot of moments – especially those when being silent was the most kind, loving thing I could have done.

Goodnight.

I had to post this:

Teenage Girls Undergo ‘Breast Ironing’ In Cameroon (VIDEO)
First Posted: 07-23-10 11:56 AM | Updated: 07-23-10 04:50 PM

Affecting one out of every four girls, the brutal practice of “breast ironing” is on the rise in the African country of Cameroon. The procedure — which involves the flattening of a young girl’s growing breasts with hot stones, coconut shells and other objects — is considered a way to curb the country’s staggering number of teenage pregnancies, particularly high in rural areas, as well as limit the risk of sexual assault.

According to a new report by CurrentTV, Cameroonian mothers believe breast ironing will protect their daughters from becoming pregnant and being assaulted in that it will postpone their development and men will not be enticed by their breasts. With dietary habits in the country improving, girls are beginning to hit puberty as young as 9, and are subject to the practice around at the same age.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/07/23/teenage-girls-undergo-bre_n_656965.html

Good mornin and your tabloids for the day
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2010/07/24/tabloids-kerry-gives-in-bp-had-alarms-off-bonnie-uncertain/

By the way, good morning everybody. Maybe it’s the never ending heat – supposed to be 95 degrees here today. And in the nineties all next week. My electric bill was so high in June that I tried turning the air conditioning off, but it’s just too hot.

The rest of the survey questions on the Rasmussen site are interesting too, but only reflect Wisconsin citizens thinking.

Dagonfly…#196
New Orleans PUMA, are you there? We miss you.
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She passed away months ago, RIP NOP.

gojoyknocks 07.24.10 at 4:31 am

I hate the word meme. I swear if someone were to use that word in my presence, I would punch them in the face and throw dirt on their khakis.

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LOL What do you meme?

his is the part of the story we should be focused on here. If two people have a disagreement, let them work it out and STOP THE GANGING UP AND TAKING SIDES on both sides. That’s how these things blow up and DERAIL the blog for days and even weeks at a time. NEW THREAD PLEASE!
I so agree… I entered this “discussion/ attack” because it seemed so unfair to me . I hate the word meme as well. just USING it seems to end all discourse and put some kind of notch in the belt of the ” meme caller ” .
What is truly offensive on this blog is the willingness of some to attack the regular members here with impunity , without regard to anything resembling civil discourse , consideration for feelings , or even the fact that the owner is is in mourning for her father . So let me just say it … that is one of the reasons for my decreased participation here , because I never know when one of these attacks will occur or who is the target. Disagreement is one thing, going off on someone here because you are ” fed up with the crap” is another. I am out of this “discussion “

Link:
http://www.montrealgazette.com/technology/Boats+carry+eating+bacteria+devour+spill+Chinese+port/3317534/story.html

Headclunker #234 #235

Printed out your info and sent to Kerry…with NO MONEY!!!

Uh-oh – another problem for Obama!

Anita Moncrief – ACORN whistleblower: Anita MonCrief to File FEC Charges Against Obama Administration

http://gatewaypundit.firstthings.com/2010/07/breaking-anita-moncrief-to-file-fec-charges-against-obama-administration/

ACORN whistle-blower Anita Moncrief held a press conference today at the Right Online Convention in Las Vegas. She announced today that she will press FEC charges against the Obama Administration for the campaign’s illegal coordination with ACORN during the 2008 election.

Anita also rolled out her new website Emerging Corruption. The website will focus on fraud and corruption in ACORN and affiliated groups. Anita already posted the Obama Donor List http://emergingcorruption.com/?p=100
on the website as promised.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJbK33f5jvk&feature=player_embedded

video of Ed Schultz saying he worked his ass off for Obama
and we all know chris matthews got his tingle on and that it was his job to help obama have a successful presidency
funny, i have watched them all, cnn, msnbc, fox
i have yet to hear one single commentator say they worked for mccain, i just find that odd

wontbackdown 07.24.10 at 10:55 am #238

DITTO!

When the NAACP denounces Farrakhan , they can call racism .. until then they can KMA
http://www.nydailynews.com/opinions/2010/07/19/2010-07-19_is_naacp_blind_to_farrakhan__co.html

Headclunker:

One more time. On Reality Check the video feed from Olympic Challenger UHD 31 shows a gushing plume of oil.

Watch the particles and fish get to close to the pipe – they are thrown out and away from the flow. You can double click on the video screen to enlarge full size and see exactly what the thrust of that flow is doing to particles and small fish!

Where and what is this pipe??? Why is oil is gushing out of it!?

http://realitycheck.no-ip.info/BP-Wall.htm

Headclunker:

I don’t understand. This has been going on for days! When they have turned the cameras on it it has been this way – a huge, continuous flow of oil, gushing so fast it’s hard to make out until you focus on the particle and small fish coming in contact with the flow.

Why has no one been talking about this – or is this pipe or source of flow the one they say is coming from another well?

And, if so, what difference does it make!? Who is responsible and why are no efforts being made to stop it!? It looks as large as the BP gusher – if it’s not the same or a part of their well damage.

What have I missed!? Where is this story?

Olympic Challenger UHD 31

http://realitycheck.no-ip.info/BP-Wall.htm

The press is also damping down the Gulf Story , with a few exceptions , because they STILL do not wish to criticize the prezzy , and his mishandling of this crisis .

WBD #249

Can you capture the video? I do not know how.

#231 gojoy

LMFAO!!!!!!

“I swear if someone were to use that word in my presence, I would punch them in the face and throw dirt on their khakis.”

I’d love to see you try, and you know I don’t wear khakis! You’re welcome, tho….I hate for any PUMAs to get *snookered* so when I see talking points meant to poison the conversation, I will call them anything you please if “meme” doesn’t suit you. Let’s make up our own warning alert term!

omg, shades of a certain PUMA telling me over and over how “crazy” I was and how she wanted to “beat me over the head with a stick” — I swear I have rarely been so entertained in my life and I could’ve listened all night!!!

I think it is defeating the purpose of intelligent discourse to dismiss what someone says as a “meme” no matter what you call it.

Nice try, Swannie, but if you say “I don’t see Fox doing this” you’re praising Fox. Giving the widest possible leeway, that is counterproductive and the last thing we want is to be tools of ANY of the MSM.

And beat that dead horse however long you all want, all the while claiming others are “hijacking” the thread: if the best you can do is smear the word “meme” and yell at dances, because you don’t have one shred of a talking point left to defend smearing Shirley Sherrod, then you’ve lost the argument and are the one who should know when to fold ‘em!

I have been in this “medium” for quite some time… since 1998 actually . I have seen flame wars that would fry your eyebrows off. It isn’t difficult to grasp that when someone directly answers your post, or call you out by name , and accuses someone of something untoward, it is past the point of discussion . One of the reasons I do enjoy this blog, is because most people here do discuss , and do not engage in bullying, and groupthink is largely absent . When someone anyone insists that they and they alone are correct, are condescending in tone, or directly call someone out , it makes it difficult for everyone on that blog.

The journolists also said they would call Rove and friends racists .. so I am certainly not going to believe one article from a so called “journolist”. That would be silly after having the information we now possess about some of these left wing jounrolists.

“The journolists also said they would call Rove and friends racists”

MORE nice tries~! So, it’s your contention that Shirley is a racist who got away with shit?

And you came up with that alllllllll by yourself, down to the same language I’ve seen alllllll over the web by the fake rightwing “grassroots?”

Or, are you STILL dodging the defense of the meme itself and into continuing the derailing you claim to be against?

btw, NYS @ # 248

….AWESOME cartoon…everyone here should see it!

Zee, I do believe you have lost your direction here .. you have this whole argument from me in your head, and are putting words ( quite a few ) in my mouth. You are not even close to what I think about this situation . My take on this is not quite so “black and white” as yours. And your conclusions are not even logical … how do you possibly extrapolate that because I am now aware of left wing journolists calling right wing people racists without any basis in fact that I think Shirley is a racist ? That doesn’t even make sense…… and as I said, I detest the word meme, partly because it leads to the oversimplification of issues , as you have just done. if you had asked me what I think about Shirely as part of a civil discussion, I would answer you , but trying to bully me into answering … I don’t respond well to bullying..

Zee…have you no a/c?
Are we not having the longest heat wave evah?
My cooling bill is now as high as my heating bill…a few months shorter is all…..I hope August is the start of Fall!

Zee you need some ‘s in your posts…some think they HEAR A TONE! okay it is : lol : no spaces in front or back of lol. Got it?

Dances,

Hope you are enjoying your time painting! Did you make it out of town before Comic Con started?

HP,

#276 – I would let mine die too but the fines are ridiculous… $150 bucks and 1 month to get the grass green again or another fine of $150 bucks.

They want us to conserve water inside the home but waste it on the grass. Some cities have set the days when homeowners can water the grass and fine them if they water on a day not designated. So double whammy, if your grass dies or turns brown because watering it only twice a week won’t keep it alive, they fine you for the dead grass. Then they can fine you for watering the grass to try to keep it green, if you water it more frequently than twice a week.

HP
Iceland? How cool! Oh, that wasn’t meant to be a pun. Is this a cruise?

and how is this to make the world better

Good post over at freemenow….

——snip
The word “ideologue” is bandied about by politicians and pundits to characterize others, but never themselves or those who agree with them. By definition, an ideologue is one who is a blindly partisan advocate of, or adherent to, a particular body of thought or plan of action and is intolerant of all conflicting views. In our Congress, ideology is pandemic, proof of which is the prevalence of strict party line votes and unswerving adherence to the talking points dictated by party leaders or group philosophies. This suggests the need for a reclassification of our House of Reprehensibles as the Lemmingslative Branch of the government. (By golly, TWO “n” words right there!)

Lemmings, as you probably know, are rat-like creatures who “go with the flow,” thoughtlessly following their leaders without regard for what is best for the general environment around them. It never occurs to them that there might be a better strategy, such as thinking for themselves and acting accordingly.
Our elected reprehensibles, alas, fit the same mold, dutifully marching behind the banners and spouting the mantras of their respective parties, regardless of what might be best for the people (i.e., us-all) they are sworn to serve.
——–snip
Changing one letter of one word, however, converts an ideologue into an idealogue – and what a difference that “a” makes!

Idealogues are people who not only think outside the box of bigotry, but refuse to be confined within it. They identify problems, tackle them head-on, theorize solutions and seek compromise with other free-thinkers with differing views. They see gridlock as an unnecessary barrier to progress, negotiation as a solemn obligation and compromise as the only weapon capable of cutting through the Gordian Knot of gridlock.
———snip

http://freemenow.wordpress.com/2010/07/24/what-a-difference-an-a-makes-%e2%80%93-or-could-make/#comment-10542

BigCatLover 07.24.10 at 3:38 pm

HP
Iceland? How cool! Oh, that wasn’t meant to be a pun. Is this a cruise?

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Nope not a cruise…I was going to take a week with a tour group but then thought a week would be to long on my first solo. So changed it to a Mon thru Fri trip.
My family was agast that I was going alone. My son-in-law offered up my daughter, to her delight, we will have a great time.

BCL
I meant to ask if you saw the pic’s of the whale that breeched onto a sailboat…it was pant wetting awesome.

Headclunker # 284:

Thanks for the explanation. The silence on the obvious was driving me nuts. The 20% factor surprises me that it’s that much smaller, but like the rest of the “leak” it was hard to tell how big this other “seep” actually is from the video. It sure looks as large as the other.

They zoomed that camera right up to the flow, again, so it now just looks like blurry camera noise, again, to others, I’m sure. At least I couldn’t see a dispersant Corexit tube at that location.

Regardless, oil is still flowing and the cap that stopped the oil is just the cap that stopped the oil at that one location.

The relief well(s) solution were the only hope all along.

The BP Well from BP Hell

I believe she was battling cancer during the time she was blogging here. When i get home I will try to find the obituary that was published and share.

That’s very sad about NOP.

Wasn’t it around this time that wizard was killed?

I’ve gotta go.

I know that some of you live in Texas. I hope no one has been effected by this:

http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-10317-San-Diego-County-Political-Buzz-Examiner~y2010m7d24-Los-Zetas-drug-cartel-takes-control-2-US-ranches-in-Texas

Back when I went to school, this would have been declared an Act of War!

Delle,

#299 – The Laredo Morning Times newspaper online, says they have no reports of or on going investigations into this “rumor”

http://lmtonline.com/articles/2010/07/24/front/news/doc4c4b6b53d2179200438464.txt

Dances,

Yup, especially when the “source” that broke the story was a San Diego member of the Minute Man group!

HP,

#304 – That all sounds so lovely… enjoy!!!

Yup BCL I was thinking the same thing, what Murphy said, we should do a trip together. I would love to go to Europe.

Thanks for the heads-up, murphy! Will definitely tune in tomorrow morning. Welcome back.

Dances,

#310 – From the article I posted up thread…

“The blogger wrote that he got a tip from a San Diego, Calif., minuteman named Jeff Schwilk, who said that the Zetas, former enforcers of the Gulf Cartel, had crossed into the United States and taken over two ranches off Mines Road, about 10 miles northwest of Interstate 35.
———snip

Also, sign me up for a Bacon Cheeseburger w/ extra bacon. Sigh…having salad… maybe I’ll add a little bacon in it.

Goods
Thanks. My doc says my cholesterol is too high… Prescribed meds. They seem to be script crazy. Wasn’t gonna take the pills but she’ll be checking on me again in august. Took a survey at work … Their cholesterol is waaaay higher than mine! I think I have a fewire bacon burgers to go before I’m in any real danger… And I know you agree.

Freddie
I did I do I will.
They call ‘em microwavable meals now.
I usually keep a couple of frozen things like that in my RV. Convenient.

I smell bacon

There are commercial venues, like community kitchens, where staff cooks good nutritious meals. They send out menus in advance. You just go in and use the containers they provide abd fill them with whatever suits your fancy, in whatever quantities you want. I don’t know what the prices are like, but I think it’s a great idea.

Not knocking TV dinners, but just wondering if it is still popular as a normal every day go to meal for some. Understandable if you’re RVing.. When I RV, I cook a giant pot of chilli and freeze them into containers and get a whole chicken from Saffron in Hillcrest. Anything to avoid the box.

Good question Murphy. WOmen these days, don’t want to be tied to the kitchen but how can we / the kids stay healthy if we don’t cook? I suppose the crock pot is one answer or fast simple meals from Sunset magazine (under 30 minutes). Obesity is a big problem across the board but I think a large part of it is the individuals responsibility or lack of, to keep oneself healthy and this is not happening. I am not sure if there is an end to this problem – it seems obesity or just generally being overweight seems to be acceptable these days. Which is sad.

TT,

Great nose! You smelled the bacon in my kitchen in So CA…

#286 dances — you crack me up. I have to try out HP’s instructions

Yeah, funny that, the tag team squealing loudest about ganging up and derailing. I kept chuckling all day, too, over how *some* people can “get away with” saying how they’d punch someone or knock them over the head. I’m sooooo tempted to see how well it would go over if I said such things.

#325 dances

Sheesh! Really? What a great idea. Is this only in California? Goats for rent and community kitchens???

Oh, dear…I came in to let people know of Zero’s latest…he made a video exhorting his burned followers now thrown under the bus to “wait” for change…!!!!

But must crash…..will retrieve the links later…..good night…!

Goofsmom #301

I am so glad that the story turned out not to be true, but I am disappointed in the NY Examiner. Until now I thought it was a more reliable source of information.

Thanks.

Good morning and your tabloids of the day
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2010/07/25/tabloids-kerry-fun-oil-kill-war-scotus-mad-men/

Ps – I LIKE being in the kitchen when I’m not working. There is something about feeding my family that stirs some kind of primal , hunter/gatherer providing for my offspring type of emotion in me .. I like it when they call on their way home and ask , ‘What’s for dinner ?” and ,”Is it ready?”
I like serving them their plates and watching them eat in silence until I ask if it “tastes ok?” to which they respond in unison without ever looking up ,” It sucks.”
ahh , it warms my heart .

Thought about this verse this morning after reading about community members, travels, foods, family…

If I Had My Life Over – I’d Pick More Daisies
Nadine Stair

If I had my life to live over, I’d dare to make more mistakes next time. I’d relax, I would limber up. I would be sillier than I have been this trip. I would take fewer things seriously. I would take more chances. I would climb more mountains and swim more rivers. I would eat more ice cream and less beans. I would perhaps have more actual troubles, but I’d have fewer imaginary ones.

You see, I’m one of those people who lived sensibly and sanely, hour after hour, day after day. Oh, I’ve had my moments, and if I had to do it over again, I’d have more of them. In fact, I’d try to have nothing else. Just moments, one after another, instead of living so many years ahead of each day. I’ve been one of those persons who never goes anywhere without a thermometer, a hot water bottle, a raincoat and a parachute. If I had to do it again, I would travel lighter than I have.

If I had my life to live over, I would start barefoot earlier in the spring and stay that way later in the fall. I would go to more dances. I would ride more merry-go-rounds. I would pick more daisies.

Did anyone see that story last week about “Tumbleweed Houses” – What a neat guy!

http://www.tumbleweedhouses.com/

Found his site several years ago by way of simpleliving.net when researching alternative homes when I was planning on living on a land trust in northern California.
I liked his idea of people living in his tiny houses while using common dwellings for things like laundry, bathroom, meetings, community kitchen, etc.

Could be used for our Puma compound.
I like the efficiency and portability of the Tony houses.

TT
LOL!!!

ChangetheDiaper
Could be they withheld the info in wait for the November upcoming elections. We know they had the info early on because much of it came from Pumas!
This could also be the beginning of their “stratergery” to defeat Obama in 2012.

Fox doesnt have to announce that they work their asses off for republicans because it’s a given.

TT, I have lost some of my bee-charming skills as well.

Visions of the secret lives of bees and all that honey seeping through abd dripping down the walls of the house

On” We Will Not Be Silenced:

…until the Republicans need those voices for a Dem party smear campaign. They must have a new strategy for disenfranchising voters and won’t be using BO’s caucus tactics.

As far as I’m concerned, the Republicans helped Obama win, because they a) they knew they couldn’t win; and, b)didn’t want Hillary Clinton to contend with for 8 years – KNOWING they could make a one term president out of Obama – because of who he wasn’t.

They are equally as responsible as any democrat or independent for putting Obama in the White House!

Fuch the Republicans – they’re not our friends nor the party of election fairness or what’s best for the People of our country, either! IMO.

Off topic, Gulf Oil Spill

Today the Gruesome Foursome has announced a New Oil Spill Containment System, featuring, guess what? Dispersants.
http://www.theoildrum.com/node/6775
One of the bloggers there noticed it and mentioned that the public may not like that. So I took the opportunity to put my two cents in:

The oil and gas industries insistent use of dispersants without consideration of alternative methods demonstrates the serious lack of innovation that is typical of a culture in decline. While the post here on the oil drum http://www.theoildrum.com/node/6724 shows that a culture of bacteria is more effective when dispersants are used, it totally fails to address the effect of various bacteria, and the effect of artificially increasing their concentration. Instead this post dismisses the subject with a single sentence:
Managed addition of particular oil-degrading organisms has often failed to improve biodegradation, either because factors other than the presence of particular organisms is important or because the organisms added are poorly adapted to the field environment and thus have poor survival.

OFTEN FAIL TO IMPROVE?

What does that mean? We need more development of technique?

Right now China is doing it. http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Global-News/2010/0723/Oil-eating-bacteria-to-the-China-oil-spill-rescue

So I guess we will get to find out if there would have been any benefit to our Gulf Coast Residents when China finds out.

The thing is that not all spills are created equal. We should have resources for skimming and means of adding bugs as well as dispersant addition capabilities and we should develop our technology to protect our environment and health.

Open your mind to possibilities.

colesterol/ cholesterol Mine is good, was “bad”
refused meds…did NOTHING different…next test good!
So everyone is different but to note they DECREASED the “normal” levels on this and blood pressure readings…so everyone can get them good little pills at big bucks for the drug industry.

I checked the blog too late to see the mention of Seigel on Fox this morning, but on ABC’s This Week Donna Brazile was reassuring us that her sources at the WH absolutely denied that they had anything to do with the USDA firing of Sherrod. Cokie Roberts called her on that statement saying Look, all firings like this have to have WH approval. Brazile did not argue.

HP Boston 07.25.10 at 10:22 am

colesterol/ cholesterol Mine is good, was “bad”
refused meds…did NOTHING different…next test good!
So everyone is different but to note they DECREASED the “normal” levels on this and blood pressure readings…so everyone can get them good little pills at big bucks for the drug industry.
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You are absolutely right. They keep lowering the ‘normal’ range of numbers over the years. So what was a normal reading 5 years ago is now considered too high and meds are recommended. I have no respect for the medical profession after 40 years of trying to work with them and finding out that they just want to hand you a prescription.

DancesWithPumas 07.25.10 at 9:59 am

NYS
Nytimes front page article about Roberts’ court being he most conservative in decades…
Obama is beginning to run by drumming up the fear of what could happen if he isn’t re-elected.
SCOTUS is about all he’s got left though, that and the fear stem-cell research could be reversed / limited under a republican regime
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We can counter that strategy by electing another Democrat and I know just who could do the job.

By the way, welcome back on the blog Murphy. Missed your insights.

HP
They actually had a Fox reporter on ABC as part of the roundtable this morning who did not let them get away with too much spin about the timeline on the Sherrod story. Sam Donaldson got all worked up over the race issue and started to sputter and yell, but the others didn’t take the bait.

Dances:

“Obama is beginning to run by drumming up the fear of what could happen if he isn’t re-elected….”

Notice how much Obama and Bush are alike in this area too!

- Spend the first two years strengthening their hold through corprate policy favoritism and more government-administration control
- Weakening the power of the people
- Doing their damage
- Taking a lot of vacations – staying out of sight and off the record while big business and oil industry favortism, failed war policy, failed management of natural and man-made disasters further weaken our economy
- Test the next campaign strategies on a new version of “change is on the way and I need more time”

BUSH-OBAMA-BUSH-OBAMA-BUSH-OBAMA

Pull em out from under the Bus and patch em all up with more promises – and his die-hard supporters will find a way to like him for it.

BCL… The QE2 huh.

I never threw up, hard to walk around, many people were sick. The room steward kept coming to see if my husband and I were okay. Yup went to bed and cuddled…so not all bad.
Hey ya had to lie (lay) down or fall down.

Headclunker 07.25.10 at 10:14 am

Off topic, Gulf Oil Spill
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Im glad the major gusher seems to be stopped but the ancillary leaks make it impossible for anyone to relax. The important thing is not to let the story go underground and you are doing a good job of that. It gets discouraging, all the coverups and corruption. I’m reading a book about the start of the Christian religion after Jesus’ death and the coverups and lies by those wanting to establish a doctrinaire church more than a religion. It had little to do with Jesus’ teachings, as we know today. And most of what we hear today has little to do with what actually happens.

oops EVIL not devil

We Will Not Be Silent, update . . . On Fox this morning

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-FdFk79o3M

Rancho
Thanks for providing the video of Seigel. OMG, OMG, OMG. Can you believe the Obama defense that if there had been fraud in the primary caucuses the dem party would have dealt with it. They did deal with it by sweeping it under the rug with the collusion of the media.

BCL . . .
Can you believe it! The lies are compounded on more lies. They want this to die, but we can’t let it!

Rancho 379, thanks for the link to Seigel on FOX. But having seen it the first go around I shall not be watching again. Nearly lost my voice screaming at the tv in response to the blatant lies the BO campaign dude was spewing.

John did do a decent job of disputing the falsities with the truth as we all know it and lived it at the time.

And Dances, I suspect you are correct regarding FOX’s intent in bringing this to light now. I hate even the thought of bedding with that enemy, but it is serving to get this thing out into the light of day for us. We must keep it going though because FOX is likely to lose interest at some point to move on to more “juicy” tidbits and anti-dem strategery (like grinding on the Rangell story), and all other so-called “news” agencies certainly are not going to pick it up that I’ve seen.

I can remember sending HRC a ‘thank you’ card after the elections and in my personal message urging her in whatever capacity and using what influence she still could within the party to steer them to do away with those f’ing awful and unfair caucuses that essentially defeated her. Of course we know she still won the people’s vote!

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BigCatLover 07.25.10 at 11:33 am
Rancho
Thanks for providing the video of Seigel. OMG, OMG, OMG. Can you believe the Obama defense that if there had been fraud in the primary caucuses the dem party would have dealt with it. They did deal with it by sweeping it under the rug with the collusion of the media.
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What do they say about the DNC/RBC breaking their own rules in order to drag Oscumboy’s sorry ass over the finish line? Or punishing Floridians because the controlling republicans set their primary vote too early to meet the requirements? Or not allowing a full floor vote at the convention in denver until the uproar was deafening… and what about the pelosi shell game regarding delegates voting, or the super delegates being bought off by Oloser,alla that aside from caucus fraud.
PS you know there was a conscious or sub-conscious subtext of not letting the black make be emasculated by a woman.

I’m thinking obama’s entire life accomplishments were based on affirmative action and is part, if not parcel, of the reason all his records are sealed or otherwise not available to the public.

Anybody have any info on the National Women’s Political Caucus? Did they openly drink the kool-aid at any point?

Thanks Rancho for getting the snail mail address.

I will make a donation also.

Dragonfly,

I’m posting a link to the article FL Barbara posted on freeusnow. I will post in women lynching forum also. The pictures and stories are heartbreaking.

WARNING: TRIGGER ALERT

http://freemenow.wordpress.com/2010/07/25/epidemic-of-acid-attacks-on-islamic-women/

The White House backed the release of the Lockerbie Bomber
then Obama tried to lie about even knowing about it …

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/white-house-backed-release-of-lockerbie-bomber-abdel-baset-al-megrahi/story-e6frg6so-1225896741041

“Correspondence obtained by The Sunday Times reveals the Obama administration considered compassionate release more palatable than locking up Abdel Baset al-Megrahi in a Libyan prison.

The intervention, which has angered US relatives of those who died in the attack, was made by Richard LeBaron, deputy head of the US embassy in London, a week before Megrahi was freed in August last year on grounds that he had terminal cancer.
The document, acquired by a well-placed US source, threatens to undermine US President Barack Obama’s claim last week that all Americans were “surprised, disappointed and angry” to learn of Megrahi’s release.”
The US has tried to keep the letter secret, refusing to give permission to the Scottish authorities to publish it on the grounds it would prevent future “frank and open communications” with other governments.

TT
O’Bumblast is going to keep this crap flowing till it overflows and drowns all of Massachusetts Avenue!

Feng Shui Wasabi Peas are the most addictive snack EVER .
They are like crispy, spicy little nuts or something . I was sad when my little bag was empty …

OH MY GOD!!
These people are beyond the beyond!

Check this out, a very shirt snippet from the Dally Dross…
“Personally, I don’t think the smartest move is to run on accomplishments. Frankly, there are many Democrats, not to mention Independents, that aren’t too thrilled with the legislation that has been passed in the past 2 years. I think we MUST run on Not Returning to the Bush Years.”

They STILL don’t realize their boy IS Bush!
The one and ONLY way the Dems will win the Presidency in 2012 is to run Hillary Clinton.

Seriously, if these fools weren’t so pathetic they would be laughable.

We fucking never left the Bush years! It is damn painful to think they are still walking and talking with their heads up their asses!!

BillieJo…
I hope Tim stays outa jail! I think Tim will never be over Lyla, ever.
My daughter turned me on to hulu on the net to catch any shows I miss.

Going… Going… Gone
“The usually secret warfare by Barack Obama against Hillary Clinton has become open war and direct attacks against Hillary – straight from the Obama campaign apparatus. Yesterday the attacks from the Obama campaign against Hillary (shades of 2008!) became blatant, not disguised, attacks. ”
http://www.hillaryis44.org/

“The Obama thugs can play their masquerade on the Titanic all they want. We won’t fall for their games and cheap diversions. Hillary supporters will continue to investigate. Hillary supporters will continue to speak out. Hillary supporters will continue to prepare. Then we’ll make our move – when we are ready to do so.We’ll “keep going” until Obama is going… going… gone.”

Big Cat,

Boggles the mind, doesn’t it. Maybe they were hoping that the correspondence was lost or misfiled, like so many other things about “O”.

White House Offers Advice to Reporters

http://atwar.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/07/25/the-war-logs/#t18h46m

Dances,

#412 – Thanks for posting the links. This is why no one who has ever fought a war in the Afghan region wins! This is why we shouldn’t be fighting anywhere in the Middle East.

“If you hear the dogs, keep going.If you see the torches in the woods, keep going.

– President Hillary Diane Rodham Clinton

“Ummm, uhhh, um, um…”
–Dumbass Egotistical Unqualified Inexperienced Thieving Fraud

goofs
Yes we are thanks to the OHeBlabbas and his 44 Thieves.

His chickens will come home to roost…

Nighty-Night Dances…

Oh for Christ’s sake…
the obots really are desperate… scraping the bottom of the barrel to keep their awakening fellows from fleeing the cuckoo’s nest…
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2010/7/25/887381/-Never-forget…-his-life-is-on-the-line!

LOL!! What a crock! What a goof. Un.be.liev.able.
The only good in those kos threads is its a measure of how badly obama is doing and how disappointed the morons are…
they were scammed, cheated, fooled, lied to, used, abused, tossed, bamboozled, and mislead.
Look at the crap the bloggers have to throw out their in order to keep their flock in line.

But my favorite is the one I posted this morning:
“Personally, I don’t think the smartest move is to run on accomplishments. (Bwaaaahahahahahaha!!) Frankly, there are many Democrats, not to mention Independents, that aren’t too thrilled with the legislation that has been passed in the past 2 years. I think we MUST run on Not Returning to the Bush Years.”

pssst Obama IS Bush.

Ruh roh…
(from the same site.)
It’s like not being able to take your eyes off a really bad accident.

“The 2010 midterms and shifts in presidential approval”
“What states have seen the most substantial drop from 2008 to the first half of 2010? Here, in list form, are the top five:

Vermont: – 14 (from 68% in 2008 to 54% in 2010)
New Hampshire: – 13 (from 54% in 2008 to 41% in 2010)
Maine: – 10 (from 58% in 2008 to 48% in 2010)
Montana – 9 (from 47% in 2008 to 38% in 2010)
t5. Illinois – 8 (from 62% in 2008 to 54% in 2010)
t5. Missouri – 8 (from 49% in 2008 to 41% in 2010)
t5. West Virginia – 8 (from 42% in 2008 to 34% in 2010)
t5. Wisconsin – 8 (from 56% in 2008 to 48% in 2010

Dances,

#421 – You are right, it is like a train wreck!!! Holy smokes I was appalled by the treads superior talk to the children. They all got called into the Principals office and scolded.

I really got to sell them the Brooklyn Bridge, if they believe that smarmy crap!

Relax, people! Obama is one of us! he loses money on Wall Street as the next CEO!
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2010/07/26/obama-what-bloomberg-said-were-poorer/

MSNBC discussing white House involvement in Lockerbie Bomber’s release..