Live Blogging the Transparent One

normapapuma 02.25.10 at 12:59 pm

I can’t believe all the re-hashing going on…What a waste of time. And all theater for the cameras, which the one claims is not what he wanted. I really don’t get why he’s there anyway, he knows nothing.

BCL What you point out is exactly the problem: The fundamental difference in approach is a battle that will NOT be settled by The One. He dismisses it as a “Republican talking point”. People want the government to stop abuses in the health care industry but do not want a Federal government take over of anything. He’s trying to convince the public that it’s all the same thing, but it certainly is not! Is he as dumb as I think he is?

murphy 02.25.10 at 1:10 pm

what do you want to bet all the “real” negotiating is happening in the lunch room?
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It probably is because Obama is not there, he went back to the WH. The summit is at Blair House.

Both c-span and Fox are saying that the media reported this morning that Obama has a Plan B that is a scaled down version of the hc bill. Reporters asked Obama about it on his way over to the summer. Obama played cute and said he always had plans.

Donna Brazile makes me puke, too.

they are getting ready to start again. Fox is having a live chat online 13,000 people online most are saying kill the bill!

Mike Enzi (R) speaking first and saying this kind of a session should have been held in the beginning. When they got the plan it was half finished with many amendments that affected only very small segments of the populations, like native Americans. His first point was that senior citizens are afraid of this bill cutting their benefits and Medicare and that should be addressed.

prplvette85 02.25.10 at 2:07 pm

you can put your two cents in on the live blog. I am purple puma lol
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Are you talking about FoxNews.com?

I’ve seen enough. He is the least competent person in the room. I will no longer give him the benefit of the doubt. He is not so smart that we mere average can’t comprehend. Sorry but this emperor has no clothes.

bcl,
yes here is the link
http://www.foxnews.com/community/liveevent/

pulling the race card…or segregation as he puts it. fuckwits

What is this — tell the saddest story day? Who has the most horrific story to tell?

And while that posturing goes on, Donna’s “new coalition” is disappearing
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2010/02/25/uh-oh-dont-look-now-but-the-dem-new-base-is-gone/

Rep Marsha Blackburn (R) Tenn. (I call her the bulldog from Tennessee) is arguing against taking power away from the insurance companies and arguing for allowing insurance companies to see across state lines.

(((HP))) rofl

Marsha correcting Obama who is talking about letting insurance companies move into other states and she says she is talking about letting people buy from other states. He tells her that is not the problem, blah, blah, blah.

#27 HP you are too funny

notyoursweetie
Wouldn’t you have thought Donna Brazile, the political pro, would know that the younger demographic was not a long term sure thing. She was probably just snowing the dem party to get them to keep supporting her candidate.

This guy is good — Paul Ryan

The government needs “Six Sigma” —

Joe Biden — he doesn’t understand the American People and what they think. Are you not the Vice President of the Untied States? Are you not supposed to represent the people?

I finally became eligible for Medicare Advantage last year and if that take that away form me, I will be rioting in the streets. By the way, I pay $115 a month for my Medicare so don’t call that an entitlement implying it’s free to me.

Xavier needs to shut up — what a loser — how did you ever get elected?

Xavier Becerra contradicts himself by saying reducing Medicare waste will be cut like ordering 4 x rays for chest paing, but that they will not cut patients benefits. Isn’t limiting the number of x rays cutting [atient’s benefits?

Go Chuck Go — back up what Paul Ryan is saying !!

Take that Xavier !!

Shepherd now bombarding Ben Cardin from Maryland about using reconciliation. Cardin is defending using it. Oh-oh.

A mad Cardin is claiming that the Ameridcan people want the dems to use reconciliation for the hc bill. Oh Nellie, he and Shepherd going at it.

The dems are just not very good at this propaganda thing. Cardin fell right into Shepherd’s trap who said he’s glad it’s now out there about the dems using reconciliation.

John McCain says they want to start over. He’s wants to talk about medical malpractice reform. This is where the repubs lose me. Saw a discussion on c-span this weekend where they said there were 13 states that have medical malpractice laws and it hasn’t saved any money on hc costs. I agree that it is a red herring, but I know others disagree.

I just love US Rep Louise Slaughter (NY). She was my rep for many years before I moved to Georgia. She is an awesome, hard-working, roll-up-your-sleeves type of woman who has always fought for women, and teamed up with Hillary on numerous women’s issues.

For those who missed it, here is the video of Louise Slaughter at the healthcare summit:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ee3uA_oSOfE

#26 Notyoursweetie
Some kids are pretty selfish and impatient, so it’s not surprising. I like this comment on the article:

47. You ain’t seen nothin yet.
Wait until Obama & The Democrats FORCE them to BUY worthless Health Insurance.
Better not stand between them and the EXIT.

LNL
Great, thanks for posting the Louise Slaughter video. She was powerful and certainly made her points about women and hc.

We are having yet another snow storm in NY….No snow in DC must be all that hot air that has settled over Washington.

Pelosi
“The American people don’t have time for us to “start over”

HUH???
Please explain the rush vs getting it right.

wontbackdown 02.25.10 at 4:12 pm

The point is if those premiums were limited by reform laws would the insurance industry pass those savings onto the consumers. Insurance regulation could also achieve lower malpractice rates charged by the insurance companies, but reform of the malpractice laws saves the insurance company payout money but costs deserving patients the money they need to live after a medical screw up. So is torte reform the best way to lower these hc costs.

Hi PUMAs – been watching & blogging on Fox about this kabuki theatre program …………….what a bunch of bs – plugs needs to be plugged – the fraud needs to be dethroned – the talking points need to be stuck up each party’s collective ass & the whole frickin thing needs to be restarted – I worked for over 45 years and paid into ss & medicare & medicaid (whenever that shit started) now – I not only have to pay taxes on my ss but I also have to pay 115.00/month for my medicare plus another $97/month for additional coverage that medicare doesn’t voer – now you tell me – what the hell is that all about???

If the frickin’ government had left social security money alone instead of spending it and issuing IOUs – this whole mess would be a moot point – if people want me to pay for their health insurance, they’re living in the wrong country – that is not my responsibility nor my liability – I’m paying for my own

At this point, I don’t think the Dems have a bill that represents what the Dem voters wanted, (single payer). I don’t think the Repubs care about covering anyone other than their own family.

Shadowfax 02.25.10 at 4:19 pm

I’m listening to the HC needle summit while working.

“What is it going to take for you Republicans to vote for our bill….”

They should have started with that question…
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Shepherd Smith said the repubs don’t want to pass the bill because that is a win for the dems – and the dems want to pass this bill, because that is a win for the dems. His point is there will be no compromise on either side because neither side wants compromise.

Had to turn it off – they’re still bloviating – missed the fraud telling mccain that he (the fraud) won the election & stop campaigning – kettle black – the fraud is still campaigning -

did anyone else notice his facial expressions when others were speaking??? disdain, arrogance, eye rolling, etc. – POS

Obama is making sure everybody has a chance to speak. He’s better at this than Pelosi or Reid would be. Now I’m waiting for the rush to the microphones when it is over. The dems will say that they allowed everybody to make their points and were transparent. The repubs will say the dems would not listen to them. End result – nada.

Tell Nasty Pancakes to put a sock in it…I don’t want to hear from her.

normapapuma 02.25.10 at 4:40 pm

Alot of insurers will not allow doctors to order excessive tests anymore. My doctors tell me often that they are strictly limited in what they can do that the insurance companies will reimburse them for. When I get my EOB’s that is very apparent. I used to be able to have any test or treatment that my doctor ordered, but not any more. I think that is an old argument and not true anymore.

Did you all catch earlier today when Reid called Nancy – brilliant!

Nancy

Has words coming out of her mouth now.

Nancy playing the bad cop to Obama’s good cop.

The good cop is speaking again. He’s summarizing where they all agreed.

Obama is way out in left field talking about Walmart. I’m lost.

rofl… mccain blowing his nose! loudly…

He just loves talking

Ben Cardin is my senator and my complaint with him is that he is not pushing enough for the public option or medicare for all. He is a good, fair man and a senator that truly represents the liberal state of Maryland, if he were a woman he would be perfect.
It seems like most here no not want health care reform. I don’t like this bill because I think that it does not go far enough. It merely gives insurance companies captive enrollees that they can screw with impunity.
As far as the ‘poor’ doctors, I have yet to meet one. If the AMA stopped allowing murderous doctors to practice medicine, it would solve the malpractice problem. The same doctors keep causing problems and they are protected by the AMA. Don’t even get me started on the drug companies and their ability to get the US citizens to pay for the drug research costs for the world.

The whole world, except us, has national health insurance. The American people are idiots for allowing this travesty to continue. It destroys our industrial productivity, stops people from making intelligent decisions on employment, and it makes the poor second class citizens.

I am not able to chat right now, but I needed to get all my steam out after reading all these comments.

Good god, Obama is going on and on. I can not pay attention long enough to figure out if there is any real agreement here.

honora 02.25.10 at 5:08 pm

I think you misunderstand. I agree with most of your points and I do want hc reform. But this particular bill is a mess as far as anyone can figure out. There is so much obfuscation going on who can tell exactly what is in the bill. Besides we think Obama, Pelosi, Reid have screwed this whole process up and don’t seem able to deal with that fact.

Obama campaign arm focuses on talk radio

The Democratic National Committee’s Organizing for America has quietly launched an initiative aimed at making Obama supporters’ voices heard on the largely conservative airwaves.”The fate of health reform has been a focus of debate in living rooms and offices, on TV and online — and on talk radio. And since millions of folks turn to talk radio as a trusted source of news and opinions, we need to make sure OFA supporters are calling in with a pro-reform message,” says the introduction to the online tool.

The online tool presents users with a radio show discussing political topics, to which supporters can listen live, and the phone number for that station, for when health care comes up. It also offers tips for callers and talking points on the issue.
My quick sampling produced Christian radio, a local talk station in Buffalo, and the syndicated talk shows of Dr. Laura Schlessinger and Sean Hannity — who will no doubt be thrilled with their new, liberal callers.

Supporters are then encouraged to report back on their encounters.

TechPresident’s Nancy Scola writes that the program is a product of a new push inside the organization to develop new software tools to give supporters “achievable, tangible tasks to do that fit into the nooks and crannies of their day to day lives.”

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0210/Obama_campaign_arm_focuses_on_talk_radio.html?showall#

scarlet 02.25.10 at 5:18 pm
They’ve been doing this on c-span call in tv in the morning for several weeks now. They bombard the show with calls, always managing to be the first several callers. They pretend to be repubs, then praise Obama to the heavens. This is what the conservatives used to do so effectively. It’s obnoxious and disgusting.

Scarlet,
It applies to all Americans. it applies to all health care policies. In fact it is one of the questions on the licensing exam.

scarlet
So if you receive any treatment or checkup for a pre-existing condition for 6 months before enrolling in a new insurance plan, you can be excluded. But if you are not treated for it within a certain time period, it is not used against you?

OK — so what the hell did they accomplish ???

Without listening to any spin on the news, I actually thought the Fraud was pretty good this time in trying to sum up the main issues and I wish the congress would grow up and start working for the American public instead of drawing lines in the sand to win an election.

6 hours and 22 minutes….for the meeting.

BigCatLover – I have no idea. I just read about this today.

I do know a divorced woman who tried to get health insurance for herself and she was rejected because she went to a psychiatrist twice years before. She was able to get a $5000 deductible catastrophic policy.

The thing is I was the one who told her when she was trying to get health insurance to make sure she tells them everything because they can cancel you if they find out you didn’t.

Obama got his ass kicked. He was unprepared. The Republicans knew his bill better than he did. It makes me wonder what else the Obama WH is “mailing it in” on.

I don’t understand the argument that they can’t start over. Imagine how fast a real bipartisan bill would go through if started from scratch.

The two doctor/senators were great. BTW did you know that Dr./Senator Coburn donates his OBGYN skills part time to keep his skills fresh.

My parents recently became eligible for medicare. They also have medicare advantage. They worked for it. They paid for it. They earned it. It should not be taken away.

And it is true… if the politicians never touched SSI, we’d have plenty of money for our seniors. We could probably even cover medicare with it. Fuckers.

prplvette85 02.25.10 at 5:25 pm

Scarlet,
It applies to all Americans. it applies to all health care policies. In fact it is one of the questions on the licensing exam.
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Then, why can’t people get health insurance if they have pre-existing conditions?

We need a pool for the “expensive” pre-existing people. Split them among the 17,000 insurance companies by size, profit, etc. That will spread the cost and make policies more reasonable.

They do this with bad drivers in NJ for car insurance. Why not healthcare?

The Democrats just laid out the plan. They are going to pretend that since the Republicans and Democrats are “so close”, they are going to try reconciliation.

prplvette85 02.25.10 at 5:07 pm
What exactly is his description of adequate coverage?
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Could it be this?

Comparative Effectiveness = healthcare rationing
　
Hidden within the 1500-page stimulus bill (HR 1), there is a provision which allows the government to create a health information monopoly. The provision is not well defined in the form of a bill. Is that so bureaucrats, lobbyists and unelected officials can decide the “details”?

Will the “details” be:
Rationing medical treatments, doctor’s appointments, procedures, prescriptions, etc. by setting up a federal database to track America’s medical records?

Tracking treatments of every American to ensure that your medical procedures are “cost effective” to the government?

The Federal Coordinating Council for Comparative Effectiveness Research, whose scope and authority is not defined in the bill, could be given the authority to intervene and prohibit a patient from a service or procedure based on it is “cost effectiveness.”

Our tax money has already been allocated to computerize our medical records so the insurance companies or government (if that happens) can dictate if we are eligible for the treatment or medications our doctors want for us.

Federal Coordinating Council for Comparative Effectiveness Research Membership

Recovery Act Allocates $1.1 Billion for Comparative Effectiveness Research (how to ration healthcare)
http://www.hhs.gov/recovery/programs/os/cerbios.html

Rahm Emanuel’s brother Ezekiel J. Emanuel, MD, PhD is part of the comparative effectiveness research group.

Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel, Obama’s top health care advisor, advocates denying care to elderly and disabled …
http://www.examiner.com/x-9452-DC-Catholic-Living-Examiner~y2009m8d...
　
GOP Senator Jon Kyl offered a Bill to Prohibit Health-Care Rationing Based on Obama’s ‘Comparative Effectiveness Research’…it was defeated by the democrats.

The Preserving Access to Targeted, Individualized, and Effective New Treatments and Services (PATIENTS) Act of 2009 would have added a “necessary safeguard” to last year’s economic stimulus bill, which included $1.1 billion for comparative effectiveness research but did not specify that the research could not be used to ration health care.

Kyl outlined that neither insurance companies nor the federal government should interfere with the patient-doctor relationship.

“When the doctor says a patient needs ‘device A’ or ‘treatment B’ or ‘drug C,’ I don’t think anybody should get in between the patient and the doctor,” he said.

In October 2009, Obama said that healthcare reform would NOT lead to government interference in the doctor-patient relationship. Then, why he is continuing with the comparative effectiveness program? Why was it in the Stimulus Bill in the first place with a price tag of $1.1 billion?

The infamous death panel discussion was based partly on Comparative Effectiveness Research (CER). A major principle of the healthcare bill is funding more CER, as ARRA funding is slated to expire in 2011.

　
Here is England’s cost effectiveness – scroll down to the end and there is a list of some medications that are not allowed.
National Institute for Health and Clinical Excellence (NICE) at wikipedia

Was this all theather???
We tried to work with Republicans?
In closing remarks
Obama was talking about the people will decide in November election then he said he will give “republicans 6 weeks to do some soul searching” and then
What????

Reconciliation???
Doesn’t make sence at least to me.

#121
That’s who I meant Sen. Dr. Tom Coburn of OK! He said doctors are forced to practice defensive medicine by out of control malpractice lawsuits. Not that tort reform by itself would solve everything, imo…

Well, I guess I can go back to whatever I was doing… Snow Day in our school district!

FL Barbara
Obama said he would give the repubs 6 weeks?

WH said that it was no accident that Obama used the word ‘agree’ so many times in the summit today. Managing the message?

Major Garrett is saying that Axelrod said the Pres will contemplate what the repubs said today. Odd choice of words.

Silence Dogood
I agree with your post of 133.
The more in the pool, the lower the cost to all.

Shadowfax 02.25.10 at 6:11 pm

Thanks for explaining what he said. I had some media on with the sound off and switched back and forth, so I missed some things that were said.

Up to 1,200 people lost their lives needlessly because Mid-Staffordshire NHS Trust put government targets and cost-cutting ahead of patient care.
But none of the doctors, nurses and managers who failed them has suffered any formal sanction.

‘Failed boss with £1million pension pot’

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1253438/Mid-Staffordshire-NHS-hospital-routinely-neglected-patients.html
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I hope cost-cutting here doesn’t turn out like above. But notice, even the government boss of this health care scheme gets a pension of almost two millions dollars.

Scarlet,
He doesn’t care what Americans think, he never did. He stole the election, has his own agenda. This will get passed, fuck the people. He knows already he will never get elected for a second term. He just wants to go down in history as the first AA president and the one who got universal health care passed. He and his family will be taken care of for the rest of their lives. Fuck the little people.
What we as Americans and Women have to be careful of however, is that just because we dislike the fraud so much, does not mean the we give the Repubs a free ride to get rid of him. We have to vote Women, and person first, not party. We have got to be smarter this time around.

Obama added that if voters are unhappy with results, then “that’s what elections are for.
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Right! What the hell does obama know about elections… I mean FAIR elections. Between obama and bush, they don’t even make a half a person in terms of intelligence, ethics, and patriotism. More like Corporate Parrotism.
A thousand or so day s left before this guy and his ilk bite the dust, and not soon enough as far as I’m concerned.

((((PUMAs))))

I wanted to take a moment and thank all of you that braved the Summit. Comments and discussion from all of you was excellent.

Yep, it was a sham… The trilogy of Evil in power right now did the whole thing for show. They have always planned to do the reconciliation. They just wanted to be able to make it appear to the rest of us like they were interested in what we have to say.

They know that they are going to be voted out and really don’t care, they are looking at what the history books will say about them and this is there one claim to fame… or so they think.

*ssholes!

FLBarbara
I don’t understand McCain’s response to obama’s snark,
“I know. I’m reminded of that every day.”
I don’t get it? What did McCain mean?

They know that they are going to be voted out and really don’t care, they are looking at what the history books will say about them and this is there one claim to fame… or so they think.
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They’re also looking at lucrative careers after they retire from gov’t. “service”, as well as future campaign contributions from them that brought ‘em.

DWP
One woman mentioned women and hc. Rep. Louise Slaughter.

I think McCaim was saying that as a Senator and a repub, he has to deal with the fact that the election changed everything in Washington or he might have been referring to the fact that Obama never stops campaigning.

Major Garrett is reporting that Obama talked for 1 hour and 50 some minutes today, not the 57 minutes I thought I saw on CNN earlier.

Dances

I am thinking John meant everyday he is reminded of that because he is a Senator and has to deal with Obama as POTUS.

I think McCain was saying, yeah everyday I am reminded that Hillary would have made a great president, instead of you.

FLBarbara 02.25.10 at 7:12 pm
Dances
I am thinking John meant everyday he is reminded of that because he is a Senator and has to deal with Obama as POTUS.
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Thank you, Barbara.
I thought it might mean something like that but more along the lines of having to listen to Oteleprompterking’s arrogance, continuous campaigning, flip flopping, and disasterous attempted policies.

and, lookie lookie… the DNC sent yet another survey… same as last time… they really are gluttons for punishment.

DWP
I got one of those surveys too. My first one.

Dances

Oh for sure he meant that too.

Give them hell on the survey.LOL
My in box is full of emails from the DNC
Fun fun fun

It really was shocking when he spoke to McCain in such a disrespectful way.
It was Obamas way of putting everyone in their places early in the summit
I was elected I am the President I do not want to be here I have better things to do than sit here with you losers.
I won this is me the winners bill so STFU
Loser.
It’s all about Obama always was and always will be, so he believes he wants everyone to believe.

BillieJo

I am so happy you got to hear Bill speak. He is an awesome speaker both he and Hillary speak with passion and that is what sets them aside from the talking heads.
They both care deeply about what they do and that is reflected in the response of those going to hear them speak.

And Bill waved to you. He loves people he can be found walking around the streets of Harlem where his office is as well as in Chappaqua their home town.

I am soooo happy for you.I was smiling reading your comments. Thanks

FLBarbara

The Clinton’s never cease to amaze me. The older and more they do to help everyone, the more I love them. Two brilliant people that are real public servants. The world is a much better place because of them.

I wanted so badly to shake Bill’s hand and I want to hug Hillary so much. I am one of those people that will risk going to jail to touch, ever so gently, the art I love the most. I touched the David’s toe, almost got tossed out of Italy, I touched Van Gogh’s painting in Paris…and got chased down the hall, until I lost the guard. Touch makes things ‘real’ to me, just a weird thing about being a Scorpio semi-artist.

Howard Dean on CNN saying he thinks the public option is not dead.

Yea, Sarah and Hannity are doing their Repub spin on how great the Repubs did at the summit.

Great?
Start over.
Baby steps.
Keep ‘free enterprise alive’ vs hold the Insurance Companies feet to the fire on profits and bs.

What a pile of crap. I wouldn’t be so disgusted with the Repubs on this health care issure if they were not using it to try and get themselves back in the Whitehouse.
I will not help them one inch.

#176 BCL
Howard Dean-Ugh! I’m not switching channels. McCain will be on too. Will be interesting to hear his take on Dr. Utopia’s behavior today.

Which channel will McCain be on. I’m switching all over the dial.

FOX NEWS CHANNEL whatever #. Here it’s 39.

Sarah was funny. She said You know those talking points I had on my hand-That’s the poor man’s teleprompter-I had made 5 speeches in 7 days…

BCL
Yes, Liberman was against the public option.

BillieJo 02.25.10 at 9:26 pm

BCL
Yes, Liberman was against the public option.
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The problem is that Obama is not committed to the public option so will now press for it again.

BillieJo
You got the whole thing then. Partisanship is ridiculous when it comes to a transformational issue like this.

LOL touchy feely

Hillary would love a hug from you and she loves to hug back…
I hope you get to hug each other.

FLBarbara

Hugs for Hillary are on my bucket list.

Good night. I may have to work in the morning if the snow lets up…

What happened to Patterson in NY???

(((((BillieJo))))) Just for you…… http://www.youtube.com/watch#playnext=1&playnext_from=TL&videos=TnJyprtkAww&v=_2zaXANuqGQ Hope you enjoy!!!!!!!!!!!

you are so very welcome…. glad you enjoyed it…… I am sitting here with one of my older dogs who has had problems with her heart… Well, tonight will be a long one…. I have her in the front bathroom on a soft bed…. But, I do not think she will make it through the night…. Tomorrow, we shall see…. Right now I don’t think the Bo Bullshit team give a flying fuck about the American People….

Oh Caspie, I hope your dog has a good night and big hugs to you both.
XXXOOOO

((((Casper Cat))))

((((Caspie and companion)))) – may you both have a peaceful night – you are in my thoughts

(((((((((Remember))))))))
Good to see you too. Sleep well and see ya later.

Today’s tabloids
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2010/02/26/tabloids-health-summit-did-we-get-rid-of-the-gov-yet/

((((Casper)))) It hurts my heart to hear about your beloved companion. It is so hard on us to watch them knowing that we are going to be losing them. I do know that they know how loved they have been, even if their life did not start out that way. Kricket was also an abused dog when I found her.
My daughter lost her beloved companion last week. It is always so hard on us. I know she feels the love you have given her all these years.

(((CasperCat)))

My heart breaks for you.
. You’ve given them a rose garden to play and to rest.How beautiful.
Prayers for you and all you do.

I need to rant about Organizing for America this morning. I have been getting phone calls all week after 7 pm from various health named orgs. asking me to call my senator and tell him to vote for a bill or inviting me to a meeting. I hang up before I get the details. These are recorded calls so I can’t talk back. This morning they called at 8 am. I have a family member who is seriously ill in the hospital and of course I thought the call was about him. This is all about organizing to get the hc bill passed, I’m sure. I need to get off of their call list. Anyone know how I can do that. OFA is not calling directly, but I know they are behind these calls.

prplvette85 02.26.10 at 10:24 am

I’ve been on the DO NOT CALL list since the beginning, but there are exemptions for political parties/candidates and charities. I will listen for the prompt message at the end of the call but I’ve never heard one before when they are on my answering machine.

Thanks for the Patterson link Dances.
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This is the kind of bullshit the California congress wastes it time on and why our state is on the edge of the cliff. We pay these idiots for this kind of crap? Assholes!!! (I am going to cuss against them until I vote them all out of office)

California Assembly passes resolution for Cuss Free Week

SACRAMENTO — Feeling a little salty, Californians? Better get it out of your system while you can.

Amid the ongoing — and occasionally tense — debate over how to clean up California’s budget mess, lawmakers are trying to tidy something else, almost as unmanageable: our language. Thursday morning, the Assembly approved a ceremonial resolution turning the first week of March into “Cuss Free Week.”

With the Senate expected to follow suit next week, all Californians will be asked to bite back on four-letter words and a few choice compound phrases. WT (bleep)?, you ask. Don’t sweat: Police officers won’t be waiting with soap. That’s not the point.

http://www.mercurynews.com/bay-area-news/ci_14470806?source=rss

Fuckwits!!!

Shadowfax,

#224 – I have been trying to clean up my language as a personal resolution, but to have the state Gov. require it… Hmmmm… maybe a prowl to our state representatives of Carlin’s vid of the 7 words you can’t say is in order.

((((((((Dances))))))))))

It is a toss up as to what bus Paterson is officially under
Obama? DNC? Kennedy? NY Times? Bloomberg?
Very Sad
He stuck to his conviction the best candidates were either Carolyn Maloney or Kristen Gillibrand for Hillarys Senate seat and in selected Gillibrand well he will soon be an ex Governor.
Wondering if Gillibrand will say anything? She is struggling against Ford who will know use Paterson against her.
Politics? Ain’t it something?

Does anyone else see possible “campaign talk” in this testimony, or am I just wishfully thinking?

Hillary Clinton: Greenspan’s Outrageous Advice Caused Deficit
Thursday, 25 Feb 2010 03:31 PM

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton on Thursday said “outrageous” advice from former Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan helped create record U.S. budget deficits and put national security at risk.

Appearing before congressional panels to defend the State Department’s $52.8 billion budget request for 2011, Clinton said the massive U.S. foreign debt had sapped U.S. strength around the world.
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Clinton urged lawmakers to tackle the federal budget deficit, which reached a record $1.4 trillion for the fiscal year that ended last September.

“We have to address this deficit and the debt of the United States as a matter of national security not only as a matter of economics,” Clinton said. “I do not like to be in a position where the United States is a debtor nation to the extent that we are.”

Having to rely on foreign creditors hit “our ability to protect our security, to manage difficult problems and to show the leadership that we deserve.”

“The moment of reckoning cannot be put off forever,” she said. “I really honestly wish I could turn the clock back.”

http://moneynews.com/Headline/Hillary-Clinton-Greenspan-Deficit/2010/02/25/id/350960

I wish she could turn back the clock as well. To the beginning of the primary… That is, knowing what she knows now. I’m sure she would have done a lot of things differently.

FLBarbara 02.26.10 at 1:30 pm
Sounds like he hasn’t stopped fighting the dem machine.

Cousin # 232 — good stuff.

I say WTF — Barry just doesn’t get it. He just keeps adding to the problem.

I remember watching Warren Buffett speak – he said – Oh, we’re fine, we have plenty of real estate to sell.

What he was basically saying was we are selling our land / country to foreign countries to pay our debt. One day – we won’t own any of it. The ports / buildings / etc will be owned by China, Russia, Iran – etc. etc.

I thought — WHAT? How stupid is that !!

Did you know in Mexico Americans can’t buy land. They can lease the land but the gov’t can take it back at any time. Americans build houses and the gov’t can take it any time they want. Crazy !

I was afraid that your answer would be yes.

#232 antifish
Wow! Now that’s my kind of talk. THANK YOU Hillary Clinton!
I too wish she could turn back the clock, or decide to take on the Badministration and CLEAN their clocks!

Another snow day here. Did anybody see the pictures of snowy Allentown PA on the FOX NEWS NETWORK? A local sent a message to McCain via the FOX reporter: Send some of the hot air in Washington up here to get rid of the snow.
McCain seemed happy during the interview…satisfied with result of the sumpit?

Anti-
Hillary…
I wish she could turn back the clock as well. To the beginning of the primary… That is, knowing what she knows now. I’m sure she would have done a lot of things differently.
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Yup, Anti and we would have done a lot of things differently if we had known what a freight train was about to run over Hillary.

I wouldn’t have been walking around Denver with a sign…I would have been researching and disseminating contact info to all Hillary’s delegates…..
Raising hell to the media in any way I could to get the story out.
Been at the meeting of the DNC when they gave Hillary’s votes to the Fraud, screaming with Harriet to the news…
On and on, I wouldn’t have been so innocent and would have gotten arrested if necessary.
Hell, we would have all been much more aggressive, if we had known what was going to happen.

Fool us once…………don’t try to fool a PUMA twice or we will rip your eyes out~

#239 goofsmom
I’m almost in tears typing to this, but it’s even worse than that. They wouldn’t even have to call our debts. The US credit rating is at risk. All the foreign creditors have to do is stop lending us money and we would not be able to meet our obligations right now. We are running on credit…deficits, defiCITS, DEFICITS.
Hillary is warning us as gently as she can.

Pelosi has been misusing tax payers funds for years, taking her expensive plane to Hell and back…she also has Rangel in her pocket for his vote.
Pure and simple, pay to play.

Hillary is warning us as gently as she can.
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Hillary is pissed and is putting on her Sunday face to deliver the news.

NormaPA,

#244 – Yep, you are absolutely correct!… We are dealing with something similar here in CA. It’s neck and neck with Michigan who will default on their bonds first. Our credit rating in CA is being watched very carefully. We are in deep dodo here. So for me it’s really easy to see how it could happen on a national level.

Part of the problem is the way the global econ works and from what I’m reading next week is crucial for Greece and they are on the brink of having their credit rating dropped again. Of course Goldman is betting that the EU will drop to parity with the dollar, which they are being investigated for, you know more high risk trading on their part.

Ack, it gets very complex because it isn’t just a national issue, everybody effects everyone else and institutions we bailed out with tax dollars are betting on the downfall of the economy in the western nations. Great stuff huh

Honora

It was IMHO that Rudy would win.

I think that for a number of reasons
First being the political climate in NY is as the rest of the country VOTE them out.
Rudy is very popular in NY with Dems, Republicans and especially Independents.
The longer that Paterson and Cuomo drag each other down the worse it will be for Cuomo because NYers do like Paterson, most I’ve talked to.
NYers do not like anyone butting in to their elections.
And Nyers are smart enough to see a political take down.

IMHO all combined cripples Cuomo.

But it will be up to the voters in the end.

-20 whoo hoo. I guess the snarky-in-chief didn’t come across to well yesterday. No tears in this house.

#250… Article links re: what I was talking about in #250

Goldman under scrutiny on Greek Bond risk bets
http://news.yahoo.com/s/mcclatchy/20100226/pl_mcclatchy/3437019

Hedge funds bearish bets on Euro failing
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20100226/ts_alt_afp/forexeuropeusgreecefinance_20100226182415

Greek Bankruptcy…
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20100226/bs_afp/greecefinanceeconomy_20100226185101

FLBarbara,

Yep, serves him right. What makes this even better is Rassmussen does this on a 3 Day polling average… So tomorrow and the next day may even be lower… Karma indeed!

Gov Patterson is soon to have a press conference (Fox News).

BCL: I read she was fired, she refused to resign.

What a strange group we got running this country–

ALL ROOKIES !!

Puma-SF 02.26.10 at 1:55 pm
I don’t know what Rangel has on Pelosi but this is fucking bullshit:
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Duh, he’s black

What do you think Rangel, Jackson, Sharpton would do if she called for his chairmanship?

Play the race card. Because that’s all they know how to do.

Puma-SF 02.26.10 at 1:55 pm
I don’t know what Rangel has on Pelosi but this is fucking bullshit:
http://www.cqpolitics.com/wmspage.cfm?docID=cqmidday-000003300276&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=top-stories
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The investigation is on-going… makes sense to wait for all of the findings before taking action:

snippet from the link:

“Obviously, there’s more to come,” Pelosi said. “We’ll see what happens.”

The committee’s focus on Rangel comes at a bad time for Pelosi and her majority party as lawmakers are trying to keep their focus on efforts to complete action on an overhaul of the nation’s health care and a series of bills to create jobs.

The California Democrat said a key factor in her decision to withhold judgment on Rangel’s chairmanship was the ethics committee’s finding that there was no evidence that Rangel knew that corporations helped finance the trips in violation of House gift rules, information that, the committee concluded, was known to members of his staff.

The Speaker’s comments came a day after the committee released a report admonishing Rangel while exonerating five other Congressional Black Caucus members in the bipartisan panel’s investigation into corporate-sponsored Caribbean trips in 2007 and 2008.

The committee found the New York Democrat violated House gift rules because his staff knew trips to Antigua and Barbuda and St. Maarten were organized by the Carib News Foundation, which had collected corporate money to pay for the trips to business seminars.

Even though the committee acknowledged that Rangel himself didn’t know of the corporate money, it said he was responsible for the failure of his aides.

Hey, Hillbuzz has an interesting take on the Patterson announcement:

We would love to see Hillary Diane Rodham Clinton become New York’s first female Governor.

Presidents Van Buren, Cleveland, and both Roosevelts served as Governor of New York before becoming President.

DWP
I always miss the good gossip.

If the Dems are ready to lose control of the House after the 2010 election, Rangel may want to take his punishment now. One the Republicans gain control of the investigation it will be another three ring circus. (I don’t mean to suggest that Rangel is not a thief and an cheat, I think he is. The Dems will give him a slap on the wrist and his constituents will continue to re-elect him.)

LoL @ -20 cupcakes for dessert!!

There’s a new post upstairs… for everyone blogging on a phone and developing a callous on their thumbs.