And She WAS the Best, Peter

For Hillary Clinton, it wasn’t about being a woman, it was about being the best.
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Amen!!

Hi PUMAs. Lurking, trying to catch up, can’t really comment but wanted to say

(((((PUMAS)))))

sorry, i know this is off subject, but hell, it’s serious

This happened and Greta van posted it

WAR….right our border: MEXICO

WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO ABOUT THIS? WHAT SHOULD WE? THIS WAR IS RIGHT NEXT DOOR.

69 murdered in one day

“….Two weeks into 2010, gang bloodshed is becoming more grotesque as drug lords ramp up their attempts at intimidation. Last week a victim’s face was peeled from his skull and sewn onto a soccer ball. On Monday, prosecutors in Culiacan identified the remains of 41-year-old former police officer divided into two separate ice chests….”

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one of the posters there said, and i swear i agree with her.
Legalize the damn drugs. Period.
Here’s what i believe, let them work like everyone else legally, and if they can sell their products then let them pay taxes, let them be productive in there damned drug business but hell, pay taxes and perhaps become part of a society that has to promote their products like everyone else. LOLOLOLOLOLOL shit, people quit smoking cigs, and they are legal, do you really think drug usage would go up if it were legalized. Hell, maybe a few, but the teenagers wouldnt like to know it’s legal. Just like cigs, they gonna get someone buy them for them anyway. And they dont make the laws anyway. IM sick of the sickening stories of how the cartels love to torture and mutilate down there, im sick of it. It’s time for change alright, TAX the damned trouble makers for once. Legalize their shit and see how well they do. They will leave in droves because it will take the excitement out of it and make them legite.
Guess what, do the same in Afphanistan. Legalize that damned Opium, sell it to pharmas LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLolol

We do nothing about Trafficking of females, but we just go out all out on these drug wars huh?

Only correction I see is that Hillary is STILL the best!
Go Hillary, go!

Thank you (((Murphy))) for this thread and for that wonderful photo of Hillary.

HIya PUMAs.
Sorry to go off topic but, this is important.
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/18890

Is this a sort of Homeland Security Politburo?
American Republic replaced by “Council of Governors”?
By Judi McLeod Tuesday, January 12, 2010

Quietly—even stealthily—in the opening days of the New Year, President Barack Obama has set up a “Council of Governors”.

Like the 30-plus czars running America with neither the people’s nor the congress’s blessings, the Council of Governors is already a done deal.

“Is this a first step towards Martial Law, or a tie to the InterPol, RAND National Police Force stuff we’ve been hearing about,” asked a Texas patriot who tipped off Canada Free Press (CFP) after finding news of the new Council of Governors on Twitter. “Is this a sort of Homeland Security Politburo?

“I do know it’s another sleuth order executed without any announcement, OR EXPLANATION to the People.”

Patriots know by now that the promised Obama “transparency” is a fog.

Checking the Net on the Council of Governors, CFP found other than a few blogs only UPI.com had the story as of this morning:

“President Barack Obama Monday established a panel of state governors to collaborate with Washington on a variety of potential emergencies, the White House said.” (UPI.com, Jan. 11, 2010 at 11:54 p.m.). “Obama signed an executive order establishing a panel to be known as the Council of Governors, which will be made up of 10 state governors, to be selected by the president to serve two-year terms. Members will review matters involving the National Guard; homeland defense; civil support; and synchronization and integration of state and federal military activities in the United States, the White House said in a statement.

more at the link.
remember how we said it was 1930s germany?
Welcome to 1939.

First day back at school. I am not happy with my first assignment. I have to watch the news every night. Now here’s the clincher, she wants us to look at both sides of issues so she wants us to watch Fox and MSNBC. I haven’t watched MSNBC since sometime around the primaries. That is going to be hard for me to watch. Anyone know who the least offensive person there is to watch? I figure for Fox I can watch Greta or even O’Reilly. Can’t do Hannity.

sheila7
Here’s a chance to ruin that 4.0 average you made last quarter by pointing out to your instuctor that CNN is not impartial or balanced, but very pro Obama and you prefer to watch them for the liberal point of view.

BigCatLover,
I forgot about Rachel Maddow. Not a big fan of hers but she is a lot better than Matthews or Olbermann. I guess that’s who I’ll watch. Thanks.

heeheehee- I actually considered saying something like that. I still might ask if I can get the liberal view from CNN. Although, I’m not sure there is anyone there I can stomach either. Wonder if Jane Velez Mitchell counts as news. Probably not.

sheila7 01.12.10 at 6:01 pm

First day back at school. I am not happy with my first assignment. I have to watch the news every night. Now here’s the clincher, she wants us to look at both sides of issues so she wants us to watch Fox and MSNBC. I haven’t watched MSNBC since sometime around the primaries. That is going to be hard for me to watch. Anyone know who the least offensive person there is to watch? I figure for Fox I can watch Greta or even O’Reilly. Can’t do Hannity.
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I love Greta and Hannity personally. Once in awhile I need to yell at Hannity to keep him in line, but not often.

I haven’t watched CNN in over a year and maybe someone that is on earlier is better, not Keith, nor Andersen…

“And she is the best, Peter”. Small correction. I still have my Hillary bumperstickers on the front and back of my car. I kinda hope someone will challenge me, I am ready to declare that I knew she was a better candidate than Obama during the campaign and I know that she will make a better president than Obama when she gets the chance. (Its great, every time I type Obama my computer alerts spell check. I know that I can put it in as an approved spelling, but I kinda like the fact that my computer knows that Obama is fundamentally wrong.

Don’t you people get it? According to Game Change, not only is Hillary a crazy bitch, but also Elizabeth and Sarah. No such criticisms thrown at the stellar male candidates, of course.

And, excuse me, why are all the Dems from the Head Honcho down willing to give Reid a break by looking at his voting record and body of work on diversity when Bill Clinton was given no such allowance during Hillary’s campaign? Is it possible The One needs Reid now and back then just wanted to exterminate the Clintons? Sounds like a typical politician to me.

There has been a bad earthquake in Haiti. Communications are down. Bill Clinton is committing aid.

sistermoon3

Why do the Clintons stay with the party that backstabs them and the American people, particularly women. Could it be that they have something to gain personally?
Why did Bill Clinton lobby for Dubai in their attempts to buy our port security contract from then president George W. Bush. The Clintons don’t walk on water, they are life long politicians. They will support and applaud as a great sucess, an Obama Health Scare bill in any form, as a victory for their party. Crap and Trade, Forced Unions, anything that King Obama wants. I so over the Clintons. They’ve stopped “thinking about tomorrow.” Now they are only thinking about themselves.

THanks dances.

Juliette
You ask questions in your comment and then, without any benefit of answers, you predict what the Clintons will do in terms of obama.

I suppose you believe Hillary Clinton is not thinking about tomorrow, nor the girls and women on this planet now and in the future when she champions the status of girls and women and our cause.

snow
any time.

Juliette
I am beginning to see conservatives as more mature, more sincere and more respectful to women then the deseased liberals and their culture of misogyny that seems to dominate the NE part of the country and California.
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There you go again.

(((DancesWithPumas)))

Juliette
That’s a very sweeping accusation.

BillieJo
I’m in agreement with your comment… #29.
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I am really getting ticked off, am gonna watch tv before I blow a fuse.

Dances

I have had to hold my nose too many times while the Clintons, both of them, campaign for Obama care in every crappy form it has taken. The bill keeps on getting more polluted with pork and they still just want it passed. They are party politicians. Why can’t you see that?
HRC can make all the speeches about the rights of women and girls she wants. But her life time of efforts on behalf of women is being undermined by the Obama administration’s complacency and down right acceptance of the pain and down right slavery that Islam is inflicting on females throughout the world.
The Clintons were the only two people in the world who could have stopped the Obama presidency. Instead of defending democracy they positioned themselves comfortably in his undemocratic administration.
Party politicas by party politicians.

BillieJo….. Thank you…. Here in Riverside it has been about 78-80 degrees…. Just wonderful weather…. I hope you watch the link above…. My heart will just not give up on Hillary… Never… I get mad once in a while because she towed the line with Bo…. But, I knew she had no choice…. I still have her picture’s and poster’s hung in my home…. Thanks again, (((((( BillieJo)))))

Have a good time Caspie!

HRC can make all the speeches about the rights of women and girls she wants. But her life time of efforts on behalf of women is being undermined by the Obama administration’s complacency and down right acceptance of the pain and down right slavery that Islam is inflicting on females throughout the world.
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Then take it out on obama, not on hillary.

“The Clintons were the only two people in the world who could have stopped the Obama presidency.”

Oh, really? HOW? Oh, I know… by running against obama for the presidency. Yeah right.

Try blaming the frauds, the cheats, the liars… try blasting obama inc.
HIllary Clinton is a Puma… stop blaming her for all your woes. Just fucking stop it.

Caspercat

I have watched that video several times, even cried while watching it during the time I was a volunteer for HRC presidential campaign. Now I have to watch the woamn who promised me she would’nt give up or give in, supporting and even promoting Obama’s devious agenda. How can Puma be so opposed to Obama’s policies and still be such loyalist to the Clintons who are out in full support of Obama policy.
I am exhausted from trying to fight Obama care. Its a fight for my very life. The Clintons have been in full support of this crap legislation. Are they thinking about us or themselves? REALLY?

Caspie

Ha!

Well, that must be painful for you so feel free to move on.

Juliette, as far as I am concerned, you are no longer a PUMA. There are plenty of other blogs you can trash Hillary on, just not on this one.

Juliette 01.12.10 at 10:25 pm
Sometimes engaging in discussions about the Clintons at this blog reminds me of my encounter with the Obamabots at Act for America.
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You want to talk about and trash Bill Clinton, go ahead. You want to talk about and trash Obama, go ahead. You want to talk about and trash Hillary Clinton… move along.

Time for a flush!!!!!

Shoulda woulda coulda…
It is what it is… get over it.

Halperin and Heilemann admit they don’t know what Bill Clinton actually said

http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/201001120035

(((Sheila)))

I have always agreed that Bill and Hillary are not ONE entity, Dances. If I thought that way I never would have worked soo hard for Hillary. But they have been united in their support for THE ONE. They can speak up and speak out against Obama’s Health Care crap, individually or together instead of blindly supporting it as they have been.

We’ve expressed our protests…
the ball is in Juliette’s court…
she has the option of honoring our requests or not.

Juliette
You have no idea if their support is blind or not.
HRC is obama’s secretary of state… don’t expect her to speak out against him while in that position.

Actually Bill Clinton didn’t say he blindly supported it. He said that something needed to be passed and we could work on it later. That is not blind following. Those are his beliefs which differ from mine. So what? I don’t need to agree with everything someone says in order to support them.
And why would Hillary speak out against BO when she is Secretary of State? Get real.

That makes me nervous so many earthquakes. I live right where the New Madrid fault line runs through. A little scare last year, I think it was a 5.4 or so. Nothing compared to the big ones but unsettling when it wakes you from your sleep.

Screw it. Let Murphy decide.

Yeah, fuck u too.

Awesome: CNN’s Cafferty Calls Pelosi A ‘Horrible Woman’

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6_xgKWzhRw&feature=player_embedded

http://www.weaselzippers.net/blog/2010/01/awesome-cnns-cafferty-calls-pelosi-a-.html

Right on, Murphy she was the BEST!

And Hillary couldn’t have supported McCain if she wanted democratic support in 2012. But YES she should have let the delegates vote in Denver.

(((sheila))) sleep well, tomorrow will be a better day.

Juliette
Neither Obama, McCain, Bush, Bill Clinton, nor Hillary are you Mommy or Daddy, neither are any of them your savior, nor are you their savior.
Save your own ass, that’s all you can do, with or without those with whom you align.

Juliette – do you realize your words sounds like those of a “concern troll”?

By law, Hillary cannot speak about domestic matters. Her job isn’t even considered a “political position’. Bill has spoken up about the health insurance bill, but only in the most general terms. You as a private citizen have more varied and outspoken ways of speaking out against something. Because of their positions (and their desire to keep being public servants) they have fewer and less obvious ways of fighting something.

If Hillary had indisputable evidence that Obama couldn’t be president, she would have shown her hand. Suspicions wouldn’t have cut it. So…. you wanted her to do – what? She would have *legitimately* lost the primary had she said what she suspected with no proof to back it up.

Hillary is a true public service – she wants to be around to help in whatever way she can. She’s not going to blow her wad on one battle, get kicked out, and not be around to fight the whole war to help the people. Hillary is not in this for the short-term win, sound-bite, or “gotcha” moment. She’s in it for the long haul. If you shoot off your own foot, you’re not going to finish the raise. But…. you’re certain she’s being “selfish”…. and that she’s oh-so-comfortable having to work under the guy who cheated her left and right for the job she was a million more times qualified to hold. Go Figure.

Dances

No, I wasn’t in Denver. But what exactly could have possibly happened that the delegates couldn’t vote? People who went to Denver give these vague statements that there was intimidation. OK so there was intimidation. There were threats too. I don’t doubt it. But there is no way in hell that the DNC could have fired thousands of delegates for voting for Hillary which by right, they were able to. I along with millions have been working tirelessly on Hillary’s campaign and I wanted that roll call vote and it is not much to ask for to have the process followed correctly.

John Lillpop, the author of that article is one sick twisted puppy:

“Electing Scott Brown will obviously not bring Mary Jo Kopechne back to life. But it might help remind Americans that elitist liberals, at their core, do not give a whit about little people.

Elect Scott Brown, Massachusetts: Do it in memory of Mary Jo!”

Dances with PUMAs -

I just ordered a few May 31st t-shirts the other day for myself and my brother-in-law. So if you see them around America’s Finest City, it might be me!

Oh, and on NQ they’re asking for ideas of how to blow off the DNC people calling feverishly for money. One woman named Cindy (?) had the best idea: To say “I’ll donate to the dems when you send me an autographed picture of President Hillary Clinton”!!!

DWP

I forgot to add – that saying might make a good tshirt!

Brown [Coakley's opponent] isn’t just against abortion, he’d DENY EMERGENCY CONTRACEPTION TO RAPE VICTIMS.

H/W
boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2010/01/04/abortion_stances_of_brown_coakley_not_so_easily_defined/
[Coakley's GOP opponent, Brown cosponsored a bill] which would require a woman to wait 24 hours before having an abortion and to review pictures and information detailing the developmental progress of her fetus.
[ Brown got ] the support of the Massachusetts Citizens for Life in this race, based on his position on issues including abortion, stem cells, and federal health legislation. He also opposes federal funding for abortion, supports strong parental consent rules for minors, and supports the ban on what opponents call partial-birth abortion. [....]
Brown sponsored an amendment to a 2005 bill on emergency contraception that would have let emergency room doctors or nurses turn away rape victims if they had religious objections to providing emergency contraception.

Ani, one of the front pagers at NQ, is working on a book from the PUMA perspective. Then the world will hear the TRUE story. She’s a great writer – I am certain it’s going to be an excellent book!

let emergency room doctors or nurses turn away rape victims if they had religious objections to providing emergency contraception.
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Maybe we should deny entry into medical schools for those whose religious beliefs would make them violate the Hippocratic Oath.

lorac
send your email address to actioncenter at pumapac dot org and i’ll send you a discount coupon. I don’t believe it’s much but better you than them.

#102 applies to anyone else who wants a discount coupon to use at cafepress too.
Also, be aware that teh prices at the danceswithpuma section are less than if you make teh same purchase via the cafepress marketplace.

You can click on my name above to check out the sections and merchandise therein.

Trust me… I’m not shilling… just informing.

lorac

Yes Bill Clinton only speaks of the Health Care bill in general terms, but he supports Obama care and says it must be passed. Thats how most democrats except for Dennis Kucinich are defending their support for the vague concept of Health Care Reform. As if the vote is on a concept not thousands of pages of legal mumbo jumbo written by Health Insurance and Big Pharma lobbyists. I hold the politicians who I have supported accountable.
And if Hillary Clinton is not allowed by law to speak about domestic matters, why on earth has she publically supported Obama care while SOS?
The MSN isn’t doing the dems any favors by giving them their unconditional and unquestioningsupport. They have only hurt the party by giving them enough rope to hang themselves with. I think some Pumas are doing the same where Hillary is concerned.

DancesWithPumas

Is it possible to get the karma is a bitch logo on buttons? I would purchase now if it is. Let me know.

shouldvevoted – Ani is writing a book. You may mean Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy….? She may be as well, I’m just not sure! But yes, Amy would write a great one, too!

Thanks!

DWP – email sent. Thanks.

g’night…fer real now.

lorac

Politicians always need money, that includes the Clintons. Why did Bill Clinton lobby for Dubai in the Dubai Port deal? Why did he pardon Marc Rich-so he and his wife could benefit from Dennise Rich’s Riches. Just because I hold the Clintons accountable I am accused of being a concern troll. But I am not naive about what politicians are. They are all corruptable and NEED the public to hold them accoutable.
I am not happy to read such emotion infused remarks from Pumas who find it unacceptable to question Hillary Clinton on any issue. For your information I often find myself defending Hillary againt Obots who are misinformed about her record and attack her with thier ignorance and lies. I am holding HRC and Bill Clinton accountable for their support of Obama policy. The Healthcare bill is huge and will be devistating to most of us here who are women of a certain age. It sucks and anyone who supports it needs to be corrected at the very least.
I would do the same if any other candidate I have supported even with just my vote was vocally supporting Obama care.
At least I can still be proud of my support for Dennis Kucinich in the 2004 primary. He has shown the courage to call Obama care what it is. Clinton endorsements carry alot of weight. They hvae both voiced their support for Obama care and want it passed. I won’t remain silent about that.

Some inquires, questions and accusations are sometimes best ignored!!!

I’m still wondering what really happened to Shirley Tubbs Jones.
Democracy died a mysterious death in Denver.

Oh and Lorac.
Dennise Rich money has benefited both Clintons. As for bringing up Dubai ports, its an example of how and why I hold politicians I have supported and voted for accountable. I feel responsible for those I have supported. Soo many people I know voted for Obama after hating him during the primary, because the Clintons convinced them he was an honorable candidate while they were campaigning for him.
Your right Lorac. I am frustrated, but mostly tired from having to fight every day for my country, my freedom and for a future free of Obama care. I’m horrified about what it will mean for my personal health needs and that of my aging parents. I am sick of the thought of all the federal debt that my young nieces and nephews will be stuck with. I am not only mad at the Clintons but my Rep-Alyson Schwartz and my Senators Bob Casey and Arlen Spector. They all make me sick quite honestly. And they will all gain personally for their support of Obama’s destructive policies even if they do not win in the next election, they will have something for themselves. Kind of like how Chris Dodd has a nice big chunk of Ireland to retire to even though he won’t have his senate seat any longer (even though that had little to do with Obama). They are all looking out for themselves in the new Obama Nation.
In fact I think they really started looking out for themselves in the last two years of the Bush administration.
Nancy-impeachment is off the table-Pelosi. I wonder what was in it for her.

Maybe we need to be ‘grading on the curve’. There’s a custom in college, when ALL the students score low on a test, instead of giving them all F’s, you refigure the grading.

Nobody gets an A, but….
The 10% who did least bad get a B.
The 20% who did next least bad get C.
Etc.
The worst 30% get an F.

With the current Democrats, since they all seem to be voting for the HC bill one way or another, I think maybe we should
tag as ‘keepers’ the 10% or so who are least bad: Coakley who voted for Hillary on the floor of Denver and has worked for choice for years; Gillibrand; Cantwell who supported Hillary early and long, etc.

Choose the worst (McCaskill etc) to crush asap.

Those in between, flip a coin and flip them off.

turndownobama 01.12.10 at 10:45 pm

thanks for that link! This is hilarious – those guys are bozos and Imus called them out. So, the ‘coffee boy’ thing is what “friends” say Ted Kennedy told them that Bill Clinton said to him.

We’re talking triple hearsay. What idiots.

Bill Clinton is the only one who has done anything about AIDS in Africa, just guessing, but sure, he’s a racist.

And it’s been said before, the the excuses for Harry Reid make me puke. I think it was Uppity who said “who says the word Negro anymore?” Exactly. Reid is a punk and needs to retire.

The Clinton hatred is so counter productive.

Dragonfly 01.13.10 at 2:00 am

Billie Jo 01.13.10 at 12:54 am

I remember her face so clearly too at the convention, when she was pushed up there to concede. The look on Schumer’s face may be one reason I hate him so much.

What you and DWP report on the delegates makes me think, what would Abe Lincoln and John Adams say about this shit? Not that they were feminists, but process was not respected and the dirty tricks are something out of a country that only poses as democratic.

Hillary is the best!
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I don’t know if these men would have imagined a woman like Hillary, but if they did, they would know that an intelligent, qualified woman that won more votes in the primary, and some of her votes were given away to her opponent, then she is told to drop out of the race……………..these actions would be illegal.
I still don’t understand how this all wasn’t illegal.

Good night PUMAs.