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		<title>By: murphy</title>
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		<dc:creator>murphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 22:33:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bulletin From Planet Dude posted,

take it upstairs!

(bring links please thank you)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bulletin From Planet Dude posted,</p>
<p>take it upstairs!</p>
<p>(bring links please thank you)</p>
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		<title>By: goofsmom</title>
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		<dc:creator>goofsmom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 22:04:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HP Boston

#91 - my point exactly!  ;)</description>
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<p>#91 &#8211; my point exactly!  <img src='http://pumapac.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: HP Boston</title>
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		<dc:creator>HP Boston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:50:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CJK 11.21.09 at 4:45 pm 

Eggsactly!!!</description>
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<p>Eggsactly!!!</p>
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		<title>By: CJK</title>
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		<dc:creator>CJK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:45:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>P.S. I also believe it&#039;s time for a complete House and Senate cleaning. Vote&#039; em out, and push legislation setting term limits! IMO, Congress has become a corrupt bunch of &#039;political aristocrats&#039; who believe they and their progeny are entitled to the seats they hold. I will work to unseat every member of Congress who voted for the Obamacrats&#039; hc legislation. At least, I believe that&#039;s a good place to start. Many are up for re-election in 2010. Their vote for Obamacare is a vote against the American people, IMO. They&#039;ve just handed in their Congressional resignations, IMO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S. I also believe it&#8217;s time for a complete House and Senate cleaning. Vote&#8217; em out, and push legislation setting term limits! IMO, Congress has become a corrupt bunch of &#8216;political aristocrats&#8217; who believe they and their progeny are entitled to the seats they hold. I will work to unseat every member of Congress who voted for the Obamacrats&#8217; hc legislation. At least, I believe that&#8217;s a good place to start. Many are up for re-election in 2010. Their vote for Obamacare is a vote against the American people, IMO. They&#8217;ve just handed in their Congressional resignations, IMO.</p>
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		<title>By: Deb55</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deb55</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:44:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SEIU threatens WOMEN Healthcare workers in Fresno CA..aren&#039;t some of you here that way.... if they DID NOT vote for the SEIU..

SEIU workers open, handled, Marked and ALTERED voters ballots
SEIU used Threats of Reprisal and FORCE to intimidate voters

You must watch these brave women coming forward to report the strong arm of &quot;O&#039;s&quot; SEIU....just like what happened to us, and they are fighting back!

The unions, which are part of the DNC&#039;s voting block, are now totally run by THUGS!! And will support the &quot;O&quot; WH, at all cost.
 
http://www.nuhw.org/

Going back to the fundraiser...thinking of my answer and getting input from others on how to save the DNC...later</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SEIU threatens WOMEN Healthcare workers in Fresno CA..aren&#8217;t some of you here that way&#8230;. if they DID NOT vote for the SEIU..</p>
<p>SEIU workers open, handled, Marked and ALTERED voters ballots<br />
SEIU used Threats of Reprisal and FORCE to intimidate voters</p>
<p>You must watch these brave women coming forward to report the strong arm of &#8220;O&#8217;s&#8221; SEIU&#8230;.just like what happened to us, and they are fighting back!</p>
<p>The unions, which are part of the DNC&#8217;s voting block, are now totally run by THUGS!! And will support the &#8220;O&#8221; WH, at all cost.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nuhw.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.nuhw.org/</a></p>
<p>Going back to the fundraiser&#8230;thinking of my answer and getting input from others on how to save the DNC&#8230;later</p>
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		<title>By: CJK</title>
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		<dc:creator>CJK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:37:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>goofsmom 11.21.09 at 4:25 pm 

Goofs, while I recognize that some Rs used the debate as a tactic to get media attention, I also saw that many were genuinely trying to be heard regarding viable alternatives, while also trying to convince Ds not to support the Obamacrats&#039; bills. You saw the D railroading that happened last year during the caucuses, primary, despicable RBC decision negating millions of votes, convention sham, etc. That&#039;s D corruption (Chicago style) at its worst. Yes, the Rs are corrupt, too. But I&#039;ve seen genuine efforts on the part of many Rs to stop the Obamacrats&#039; trainwreck so-called &#039;healthcare reform.&#039; The Ds have thwarted these efforts. I&#039;ve never in my life witnessed the Congressional process be so tyrannically controlled by one party (and yes, that includes the past 8 years). This D party, IMO, is no longer an American political party, but some sort of fascist cabal (Congressional junta?) that has committed a government takeover right under our noses and now rules with an iron hand. The Rs may not be &#039;potted plants,&#039; but it seems they never even had a chance at initiating/sustaining any sort of intelligent, reasoned debate over this horrific legislation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>goofsmom 11.21.09 at 4:25 pm </p>
<p>Goofs, while I recognize that some Rs used the debate as a tactic to get media attention, I also saw that many were genuinely trying to be heard regarding viable alternatives, while also trying to convince Ds not to support the Obamacrats&#8217; bills. You saw the D railroading that happened last year during the caucuses, primary, despicable RBC decision negating millions of votes, convention sham, etc. That&#8217;s D corruption (Chicago style) at its worst. Yes, the Rs are corrupt, too. But I&#8217;ve seen genuine efforts on the part of many Rs to stop the Obamacrats&#8217; trainwreck so-called &#8216;healthcare reform.&#8217; The Ds have thwarted these efforts. I&#8217;ve never in my life witnessed the Congressional process be so tyrannically controlled by one party (and yes, that includes the past 8 years). This D party, IMO, is no longer an American political party, but some sort of fascist cabal (Congressional junta?) that has committed a government takeover right under our noses and now rules with an iron hand. The Rs may not be &#8216;potted plants,&#8217; but it seems they never even had a chance at initiating/sustaining any sort of intelligent, reasoned debate over this horrific legislation.</p>
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		<title>By: HP Boston</title>
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		<dc:creator>HP Boston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:35:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>goofsmom 11.21.09 at 4:25 pm 

CJK,

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Yup it was the same when the GOP was in the majority they did what ever the hell they pleased with nary a peep from the democraps....we railed agaist the repubs to no avail!!!And no help from the dems they cried and pissed and moaned and never did squat!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>goofsmom 11.21.09 at 4:25 pm </p>
<p>CJK,</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<br />
Yup it was the same when the GOP was in the majority they did what ever the hell they pleased with nary a peep from the democraps&#8230;.we railed agaist the repubs to no avail!!!And no help from the dems they cried and pissed and moaned and never did squat!</p>
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		<title>By: goofsmom</title>
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		<dc:creator>goofsmom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:25:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CJK,

Yep, I do watch FOX news also.  My point was that all the Repubs had to do is convince 1 or 2 of the Dems not to support and we wouldn&#039;t be where we are today.  

By proposing a different bill, that they knew would not be even entertained is a diversionary tactic.  If they really wanted to stop this bill they would have figured out how to do something far more likely to succeed.  

I don&#039;t trust any politicians are working for the good of the people.  The GOP are not potted plants and giving them a pass because they are the minority does not mean they are helpless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CJK,</p>
<p>Yep, I do watch FOX news also.  My point was that all the Repubs had to do is convince 1 or 2 of the Dems not to support and we wouldn&#8217;t be where we are today.  </p>
<p>By proposing a different bill, that they knew would not be even entertained is a diversionary tactic.  If they really wanted to stop this bill they would have figured out how to do something far more likely to succeed.  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t trust any politicians are working for the good of the people.  The GOP are not potted plants and giving them a pass because they are the minority does not mean they are helpless.</p>
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		<title>By: HP Boston</title>
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		<dc:creator>HP Boston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:23:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>goofsmom 11.21.09 at 3:47 pm 

 Don’t know how the double post happened.  

-------------------------------
Okay Goofs your post was double on the mark!

I can not vote for any of these assholes....I can not even vote for Dem women running now, I am through! And the Repub party is just as bad so there is NO one to vote for, only against. I am against the Dems!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>goofsmom 11.21.09 at 3:47 pm </p>
<p> Don’t know how the double post happened.  </p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<br />
Okay Goofs your post was double on the mark!</p>
<p>I can not vote for any of these assholes&#8230;.I can not even vote for Dem women running now, I am through! And the Repub party is just as bad so there is NO one to vote for, only against. I am against the Dems!</p>
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		<title>By: CJK</title>
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		<dc:creator>CJK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:19:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just re-posting an excerpt from #64:
Re key points of the Constitution&#039;s framers in using the phrase &#039;high crimes and misdemeanors&#039; as applied to impeachment:

&quot;...alleged damage to the state in such forms as misapplication of funds, abuse of official power, neglect of duty, encroachment on Parliament’s prerogatives, corruption, and betrayal of trust.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just re-posting an excerpt from #64:<br />
Re key points of the Constitution&#8217;s framers in using the phrase &#8216;high crimes and misdemeanors&#8217; as applied to impeachment:</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;alleged damage to the state in such forms as misapplication of funds, abuse of official power, neglect of duty, encroachment on Parliament’s prerogatives, corruption, and betrayal of trust.&#8221;</p>
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