Sunday!

by murphy on November 15, 2009

in open thread

Ca-ching!

Ca-ching!

Nah, it’s not really surprising, but still. Yup — lobbyists write the script. Politicians read their lines.

The Secretary of State would be happy to sit down for coffee with the 2012 independent candidate for President former Governor of Alaska.

A heartwarming story from Afghanistan where a mother of seventeen children is thrilled to have access to birth control pills for the first time — but takes them secretly so her husband won’t beat her. (I really like the author of this story, Sabrina Tavernise. She wrote a “confession” last week about for once being so fed up with the smug and ignorant hypocrisy of the mullahs in Af-Pak that she went off script and insulted him. I look forward to reading more of her writing.)

Guess what Boys and Girls!? Obama’s NOT a liberal. Never was. Never will be. Why did you ever think that, Silly Obots?

Watch the video. obama bows DEEP to the Emperor of Japan. But just a head dip for the Empress. Huh.

And finally, Twisty on Stupak (finally). Eh, and Twisty just being Twisty.

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admin 11.15.09 at 1:14 pm

oh, and the mother in North Carolina apparently sold her five year old daughter to a man as a sex slave.

http://www.comcast.net/articles/news-national/20091112/US.Girl.Disappears.NC/

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Swannie 11.15.09 at 1:23 pm

I guess you dont have to read HALF THE SKY to cry about the state of women in the world………. just the US NEWS

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DancesWithPumas 11.15.09 at 1:32 pm

admin 11.15.09 at 1:14 pm
oh, and the mother in North Carolina apparently sold her five year old daughter to a man as a sex slave.
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Freak!! Even more bizarre that there are markets for children to be sold into as sex slaves. Incomprehensible.

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simofish 11.15.09 at 1:38 pm

I am with DWP — INCOMPREHENSIBLE –

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BillieJo 11.15.09 at 1:45 pm

The Secretary of State would be happy to sit down for coffee with the 2012 independent candidate for President former Governor of Alaska.

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Now that sounds like an invite from Hillary. :lol:

Now that is something I would love to see. The girls doing coffee, enjoying each other’s company…for they have more in common than they don’t.

Then my fantasy takes off and I see them running on the same ticket as Independents……… Hillary at the top of the ticket and Sarah as VP.
Heh, never will happen but I can dream.

Two women running together, oh hallelujah!!!

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BigCatLover 11.15.09 at 1:49 pm

BillieJo 11.15.09 at 1:45 pm
You just perked up my day. HRC and Palin run together. Delicious.

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sistermoon3 11.15.09 at 1:50 pm

Billie Jo, it might be a dream, but it would be an unstoppable ticket now wouldnt it:)

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sistermoon3 11.15.09 at 1:51 pm

can you even imagine both the boyz in both parties reactions, priceless

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normapapuma 11.15.09 at 1:59 pm

Palin wants Hillary’s indirect support or at least the same deal of agree to disagree that they had during the last election. Dreaming…

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Rancho 11.15.09 at 2:01 pm

DELICIOUS, BILLIEJO! I love it!
and a great way of combining some previous PUMA thoughts!

CJK “Neither party represents women’s equality, women’s freedoms and women’s rights, nor LGBT equality, freedoms and rights.”

sistermoon3 “We need individual thinkers who truly have the best for our country in mind and not their political careers.”

A WOMAN’S PARTY! HMMMMM

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goofsmom 11.15.09 at 2:01 pm

Major Announcement from Pumacraig:

Reposting from last nights thread
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pumacraig 11.15.09 at 1:30 am

I am going to put my name on the ballot. I will register as a Democrat(Hillary puma Democrat) for the US House of Representatives and run against Lacy Clay District 1 St. Louis Missouri. I am female and have Muscular Dystrophy. I file February 15th 2010 in Jefferson City. Your prayers are needed!
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FLBarbara 11.15.09 at 2:10 pm

Maybe a two woman ticket, a liberal and a conservative is what it will take for women to realize their reproductive rights are held hostage by both political parties every election in order to divide and conquer and after the election we are released and on our own again.
It’s 2009 and we are still…. well here let Susan tell you.

In her newspaper, The Revolution, Susan B Anthony (or a colleague who signed “A” wrote in 1869 about the subject of abortion, arguing that

“We want prevention, not merely punishment” and asserting that focusing solely on passing an anti-abortion law would “be only mowing off the top of the noxious weed, while the root remains.”
From
Seneca Falls and the origins of the women’s rights movement.

149 years later we are still
mowing off the top of a noxious weed!!!

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FLBarbara 11.15.09 at 2:14 pm

(((PUMACRAIG)))

Way to go…you are in my thoughts and prayers. What can I do?

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normapapuma 11.15.09 at 2:14 pm

#10 Rancho
If you read the comments under the Boston Globe article Murphy posted, there doesn’t seem to be much difference between the anti-Hillary-at-all-costs people and the anti-Palin people. They seem to have a knee-jerk reaction against them for the most part.

Pumacraig has my support in any way I can help. Wow!

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CJK 11.15.09 at 2:19 pm

BillieJo 11.15.09 at 1:45 pm

Hi BillieJo! I posted very much the same ‘dream’ this past July after Palin’s resignation announcement. Don’t recalll the response being very positive. Perhaps the political environment has changed so much in just a few months that the ‘dream’ might be becoming much more of a possibility than it once might have been???

Rancho 11.15.09 at 2:01 pm
“A WOMAN’S PARTY! HMMMMM”

Yup. Been saying’ the same thing for a looonnnnggg time! Again, perhaps the political environment has changed so much that this ‘dream’ also might be becoming much more of a possibility. Here’s my latest ‘dream’: I’d like to see HRC and SP run on the New Woman’s Party ticket! That way, these two great women would be free of the party baggage that’s weighing them down (the BO albatross in HRC’s case; and the GOP POTUS ‘usual suspects’ candidate list in SP’s case). Most importantly, we could all say a permanent farewell to the D and R Boyz-Only Club and all its supporters.

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normapapuma 11.15.09 at 2:19 pm

#12
…And Pro-choice is not Anti-life. It is such a complicated issue requiring the finest finesse. Women, their doctors, and PERHAPS their families, but never the government or public should be involved in those decisions. If you really value privacy, keep government out of healthcare.

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CJK 11.15.09 at 2:22 pm

pumacraig 11.15.09 at 1:30 am

Go, pumacraig! We’re with you!

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Swannie 11.15.09 at 2:23 pm

I would CONTRIBUTE , WORK FOR a WOMANS PARTY even if we lost we would win !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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normapapuma 11.15.09 at 2:25 pm

#15 CJK
As I said in the previous thread, I think HRC’s statement that she is “out of politics” positions her for a role more independent of the BO albatross administration. HMMMM.

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FLBarbara 11.15.09 at 2:26 pm

normapapuma 11.15.09 at 2:19 pm

Exactly!!!
Why in 2009 are we still punishing women for getting pregnant?

Is not the stupank amendment punishing women who get pregnant?

And why are we allowing women to be punished by our government?

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Swannie 11.15.09 at 2:29 pm

“PRO LIFERS” should be called BIRTH ENFORCERS

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normapapuma 11.15.09 at 2:30 pm

#20
I don’t know! It’s so sad and I’m sure if HRC (pro-choice) could sit down and talk to SP (pro-life) maybe they could do something to change things for girls and women, like just guarantee our Constitutional Rights forever! That’s what I hope.

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CJK 11.15.09 at 2:31 pm

Maybe we need to bring back the bumper sticker from the ’70s: Biology Is Not Destiny!

This applies to so many issues, including a woman’s right to privacy and control in her healthcare decisions.

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normapapuma 11.15.09 at 2:35 pm

#21 Swannie,
Believe it or not I have witnessed abortion enforcement too. Neither is right. Just let women be FREE to follow their own concience, not their husband’s, or society’s, etc.

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pumacraig 11.15.09 at 2:47 pm

Thanks all. I have started my research and will call the Secretary of States office tomorrow. They will send me the packet with all the papers etc I need. I have to go to Jefferson City Feb. 15 2010 to file the papers, pay $100.00 dollar fee to the Democratic party. Get an affidavit saying I owe no taxes. Sending that off tomorrow. I am going to keep it quiet until Feb. 15. I want it to be a surprise for Clay etc.!! In the mean time I will work on setting up everything legally, bank account for donations, web page, post office box number to keep my home address safe etc. Zee…. thanks if you find the info pass it along please. No my family is not in my life they have been absent along time. I have about 3 close friends. Its hard to get out and make friends with MD and I no longer can drive. I never said this will be easy!! LOL But if all that happens is I get my name on the ballot somehow someway I pray it sends a message. St. Louis City is like Chicago politics. I could win he is not really liked around here it is a very Democratic district and no other Democrat has challenged him or his father who held the seat for years before him. I have a chance just by being on the ballot. I will be a threat. I will check in latter have research to do. Again thank you for all your support and encouraging loving words.

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normapapuma 11.15.09 at 2:52 pm

Pumacraig,
Yeaa! I have to go work on my resume so I better get off the blog too!

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prplvette85 11.15.09 at 3:04 pm

Hi all
(((pumacraig))) We will be behind you 100%. Let us know how we can help. Making calls etc. l
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admin 11.15.09 at 1:14 pm
oh, and the mother in North Carolina apparently sold her five year old daughter to a man as a sex slave.
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INCOMPREHENSIBLE is right. I am at a loss for words. Her own mother. may she rot in hell, and here on earth.
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Oh I do have good news. An ex- obot asked me for bumper stickers for his car. I told him only if I could witness him put them on his car would I give them up… he did two, he chose the Stop the O’merican Nigtmare and Obama not the change you’d hoped for! I took a picture. will send to the action center later. I am not feeling good an went to the pharmacy to get some robituusin and he saw my stickers and started talking about how he voted for O, and can’t believe what he is doing to America. So I stood in the cold, and Pumatized him! :)

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sistermoon3 11.15.09 at 3:11 pm

then again, when you think a two woman run for the white house, the middle east would go mad.
Wow, the end of all evils LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
I love it

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CJK 11.15.09 at 3:17 pm

Just found out something really interesting. For the CA Congressional Districts, the rules require that a candidate be a resident WHEN ELECTED; no ‘durational residency’ requirement. (See CA SoS site.)

I was just thinking, maybe PUMA could draft Lou Dobbs to challenge ‘Mancy’ for the CA 8th Congressional District seat in 2010! Okay, I can dream can’t I???!!! http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091115/ap_on_en_tv/us_tv_lou_dobbs

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CJK 11.15.09 at 3:22 pm

prplvette85 11.15.09 at 3:04 pm

We love you, prplvette! Brave, strong PUMA! Please take care, though. Standing in the cold (even to pumatize) is perhaps not such a good idea when you don’t feel well. Good going on the bumper stickers and pix. Can’t wait to see them!

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goofsmom 11.15.09 at 3:25 pm

Yea Purplvette!

Can’t wait to see the photos… :grin:

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CJK 11.15.09 at 3:30 pm

normapapuma 11.15.09 at 2:30 pm

What I’ve heard/read is that both HRC and SP are very strong advocates of upholding the Constitution, including the right to privacy.

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HP Boston 11.15.09 at 4:20 pm

Oh give me a freaking break…what a setup Ofraud to the rescue of the shit HC rip-off…….

The stage is set the teleprompter is at the ready and Olieingsackofcrap has the staring roll as a human being! I am puking in the sink!

Axelrod Signals Obama Will Try to Strip Abortion Language From Health Care Bill
by
FOXNews.com

The amendment, authored by Rep. Bart Stupak, D-Mich., went beyond preventing the proposed government-run plan from covering abortion to restrict federal subsidies from going toward private plans that offer abortion coverage. David Axelrod says the amendment changes the ’status quo,’ something the president cannot abide.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/11/15/axelrod-signals-obama-try-strip-abortion-language-health-care/

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HP Boston 11.15.09 at 4:23 pm

Oh and be prepared to puke …the picture of the ugly evil axeee is stomach churning!

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theamericanway 11.15.09 at 4:27 pm

HP
Try to remember. Just words. Beyond that, the word ‘try’ usually implies that failure is expected.

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HP Boston 11.15.09 at 4:35 pm

Or it is such a difficult feat to accomplish that only the “isn’t that special” Oblunder CAN get it done.

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HP Boston 11.15.09 at 4:39 pm

Reading today in the Sunday Globe that for the first 10 months this year the MIN WAGE has been declining…..

It is definitely the economy stupid!!

Vote the basturds out!!

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CJK 11.15.09 at 4:41 pm

HP Boston 11.15.09 at 4:20 pm

Translation of Axel-speak: The private insurance companies don’t want to get sued class-action style for their part in allowing the WH/Congress to surreptitiously overturn Roe v Wade. Also, BO/Axel/Pelosi (other ‘psychopants’ Ds) didn’t quite anticipate the tsunami of political blowback against them because of HR3962 & ‘Stupid Prick’ amendment.

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HP Boston 11.15.09 at 4:58 pm

Yup I guess it will take the Head stupid prick to bang away at the the stupid prick amendment!

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TexasTigress 11.15.09 at 6:48 pm

HP – ” Stupid Prick ammendment”

Now thats funny .

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HP Boston 11.15.09 at 7:34 pm

TT, Persephone is the winner of that funny award!

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shouldvevotedforhillary 11.15.09 at 7:48 pm

I was very happy to see the news on Sarah & Hillary. I think they will hit it off!

pumacraig
That is great! I think any puma running needs to register Democrat. After all, it is our party and we need to take it back.

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simofish 11.15.09 at 8:10 pm

What’s everyone up to?

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RememberNovember 11.15.09 at 8:42 pm

Hi Pumas – mentioned to my hubby this morning that some of you were excited at the thought of a Hillary/Sarah Palin run for the White House – his response “Now THAT would be SOMETHING” – I am so grateful that, despite ‘losing’ so many friends this past election, I have someone close on the same page :lol: :lol:

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Juliette 11.15.09 at 8:42 pm

CJK

I hope the “Stupid Prick” ammendment doesn’t make stupid pricks out of all those who were originally opposed to The Big INS PHARMA Health Care take over. I am suspicious of the “Stupid” ammendment being a decoy to divert our attention away from the entire piece of crap that is Obama Scare. Everything about H.R.3962 is wrong and it should be strongly opposed even if the new abortion ammendment is dropped. I just get the feeling that collusion, distraction and manipulation are all being used to pass this bill. I can almost hear Obama and Emmanuel laughing at us. Every bill they have and are trying to pass is designed to fortify their power ane keep them in power indefinitly. They will use abortion and what ever else they need in their shell game. Lets stay focused. All of HR 3962 is a hoax. This govenment cannot be trusted with Health Care or anything else.

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RememberNovember 11.15.09 at 8:48 pm

BTW, I think I commented last week (or was I thinking it?) but beware of being so relieved if BO strips the Stupak amendment from the HC Bill that you don’t notice all the other crap slipping by. I know I don’t really need to say this to Pumas because you are all so well informed (compared to many) – just be vigilant and ready to inform your family/friends/colleagues or even your Pharmacist (prplvette) … :lol:

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RememberNovember 11.15.09 at 8:51 pm

Hey CJK :lol: _ you made my point and I swear I did not read your comment first!!! I am very slow to type the words

I guess we are on the same page too ((CJK)) :lol:

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Juliette 11.15.09 at 8:51 pm

RemeberNovember

Have you really lost friends over Obama?
I am sticking with my Obamabott friends in hopes that someday I can make them see the real Obama. Some of my NY friends who supported him are pretty upset about his desision to bring SKM and friends to trail in their city. I tell them that Obama said in his own book that if the political winds shifted he would stand with his Muslim brothers. Seems that every once in a while he actually speaks the truth.
Don’t give up on your friends. I believe it is Obama’s will to divide and conquer US.

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RememberNovember 11.15.09 at 8:58 pm

Oh no Juliette – I have not really lost them but I have lost the closeness that we had – politics was a constant topic of discussion and two of my closest friends (couple) choose not to talk with us about BO – I am waiting my time for the day they actually come around but it won’t, unfortunately, be initiated by me – I value our friendship too much to really lose it over him and his cronies. I just cannot believe that so many of my friends were taken in by all his propaganda – I thought theye were reasonably well informed but they are MSM watchers ….

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Deb55 11.15.09 at 8:58 pm

Hope this works…New video of Qaddafi talking to his followers about the Muslim take over of Europe and the U.S. next.

This is the religion of peace..he states the U.S. will have to declare war on the Muslims to stop it…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7ympF_grrA&NR=1

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RememberNovember 11.15.09 at 9:02 pm

Juliette/CJK – I misread the author – sorry :( #47 was for you Juliette :lol:

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RememberNovember 11.15.09 at 9:05 pm

Hi Simofish – what are we up to? I for one am sitting down for the first time today – Tried to get on the blog earlier but having a connection problem – slower than dial up – such a pain.

Lovely day in N CA today, eh?

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RememberNovember 11.15.09 at 9:06 pm

PS _ I am just so used to being on the same page as CJK :lol:

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Deb55 11.15.09 at 9:18 pm

This is the best video I have ever seen on what is happening in Europe..Muslim take over…he praises the U.S. for standing up againest the movement.(done in 2007..before “O”)

This has over 580,000+ views and this guy is right on every point. A must watch for our Islam sucks group!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nI5WoXpmPiM&feature=related

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stoney42 11.15.09 at 9:21 pm

Just popping in to say Hi! I watched Hillary on David Gregory today. She is always so articulate and straight forward with her answers, not like someone else we know.

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Juliette 11.15.09 at 9:25 pm

RememberNov

I’m glad you didn’t really lose friends because of the LIAR in THIEF. It amazes me that so many Americans are happy to remain compleatly oblivious to government and politics. Anyone who is an involved, informed citizen is subject to be calling a radical nut job of some sort. It amazes me how most Americans play right into the politician’s game and remain ignorant and uninvolved. I have yet to speak to an Obama supporter who has studied his prior voting record or looked at any of the legislation he is trying to get pushed through congress. They support vage concepts without thinking about the devil that’s in the details. It is not until things get really bad that they will start to look at Obama a ask themselves, MY GOD, WHAT HAVE I DONE.
For the die hard liberals, I refer them to Dennis Kucinich, the guy who actually VOTED against the Bush Authorization of Forse. He is outraged by HR 3962. He’s calling it what it is-a 70 billion dollar give away to the insurance companies.

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CJK 11.15.09 at 9:27 pm

Hi all PUMAS! Wondered where everyone was today. I’ve been off thread for a while. RemVem and Juliette, I completely agree that HR3962 (and its predecessor) were already bad bills even before the ‘Stupid Prick’ Amendment (H/T to Persephone for the great rename!). Also agree we should not be distracted by the amendment or BO’s ploy. We need to be e-mailing, faxing, phoning Senators this week to oppose this bill (whatever they may be calling it). We can’t ease up the pressure. Congress needs to scrap BO’s hc bill, and start over at the local/state level to build a carefully considered hc reform plan from the grassroots up, with input/participation from healthcare professionals, agencies and consumers. Gotta go. BBL.

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Juliette 11.15.09 at 9:28 pm

vague concepts not vage concepts
That one had to be corrected. LOL

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RememberNovember 11.15.09 at 9:30 pm

They don’t care about his voting record, they don’t care that he has flip flopped on so many issues – they don’t care that his academic records were sealed, that there is no paper trail on him, they really don’t care about anything negative because they just think it is the result of right wing lies – in their eyes this guy walks on water …..

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Dragonfly 11.15.09 at 9:33 pm

Deb55 at 54

yes, I love that guy who made the youtube. He has others also very good!

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RememberNovember 11.15.09 at 9:38 pm

I know you’ve gone CJK but I have to go soon too :lol: – problem is that he has made a big deal about consulting everyone – remember that big get together at the beginning of this process, with the nurses and physicians, pharmaceutical companies, insurance companies etc…?

He gets an endorsement from the AMA (which represents, I think, less than 20% of physicians) and the endorsement weas not approved by the memebership but was voted on by the Trustees. He gets the backing of the AARP who are not looking out for seniors but their own bottom line in being able to sell insurance to fill the gaps the HC Bill would create. He gets the backing of Pharmaceutical companies because he has an underhanded backroom deal with them. He will say he has done what you propose – how on earth would he do anything differently – I SO agree with what you say but how to do it with this TRANSPARENT administration? BBL I hope :lol:

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Deb55 11.15.09 at 9:47 pm

Thanks dragonfly #60
will go and look them up. He says it like it is.

Your name..made me smile..remember the movie DragonFly with Kevin Costner..what a great movie!!!

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Casper Cat 11.15.09 at 10:04 pm

Murphy and pumacraig…. if you are still around please take a look….. Very good…. Women in Politics in Mass… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9SPX3Nda0E :wink: :smile:

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CJK 11.15.09 at 10:06 pm

RememberNovember 11.15.09 at 9:38 pm

To the best of my knowledge, BO did not involve any of those groups for input or for the actual authoring of the hc bill. (His ‘meetings’ with any of them were simply slick PR window dressing to dupe the public into believing he had their actual input.) His real input for the bill, I believe, was a study commissioned by one of the big five health insurers. The study was done by a company that has since been bought by that health insurer. The study was used, I believe, as the basis of BO’s bill, which was apparently cobbled together by various Congressional staff. What I’m talking about is true participation and input at the grassroots local/state level to build carefully considered real reform to rein in costs and maintain quality care levels without decimating Medicare.

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CJK 11.15.09 at 10:07 pm

I’ll be intermittently on thread…BBL

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Casper Cat 11.15.09 at 10:07 pm

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Juliette 11.15.09 at 10:13 pm

Debb 55
I loved the guy on that video as well. I love what he said about Europeans being spineless. I can never understand why, what Europe thinks of US is so important to so many liberals. Did they not sleep through two massive genecides on thier soil in less than 70 years? I liked the comment that said that liberals in Europe supported Nazi facism which is very true.

The one big thing I did not support was the condemnation of all religions along with Islam. I strongly believe that secularism in Europe has left a vacume that is being filled by Islam. I also think that secularism in America left an open opportunity for the false profit- Barak Obama. I know many on this blog will disagree. But the way I see it, European and No. American culture are Christian cultures. Christianity had its days of abusive power, but the fact that it’s profit Jesus, was a man of forgiveness, tolerance and peace has allowed these cultures to come back into the light after periods of destruction and darkness. That is an advantage that Islam will never have. Their example for humanity, their “profit” Mohammed was a man of persecution, intolerance and war. He was also a polygamist and child rapist. Alot of history in America is taught to us with a thick coating of white guilt. History courses taught in America are particularly slanted agaisnt the Catholic faith.
I don’t remember ever being taught about the Muslim slave trading, while I was in school, which incidently goes on unchecked to this very day. I don’t remember being taught about Arab Imperialism (Islam) which destroyed and usurped various cultures-from Persia to No. Africa. Their religions, cultures and languages are gone and replaced. Those who try to hold on to those cultures live in great danger.

Perhaps it is because I see more so called Christian right wing fanatics in America taking a strong stand against Shari-ah, that I fear we might be weakening an important ally by putting Chistians in the same pot as Muslims. I am proud of my Christian heritage. I believe Americans had more stength and courage when we were not so willing to equate our selves with the barbarians. Europe should be proud of their Christian heritage as well.
Religion is not a bad thing. False profits are.
And Mohammed was a false profit who had nothing good to offer humanity. Should we put him in the same catagory as Jesus or Moses?

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Casper Cat 11.15.09 at 10:16 pm

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shouldvevotedforhillary 11.15.09 at 10:19 pm

Juliette

I love the “stupid prick” amendment phrase!

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Juliette 11.15.09 at 10:20 pm

Just to clarify. In my previous comment, but secularism in Europe and America, I meant secular culture not governments.

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Juliette 11.15.09 at 10:20 pm

but=by

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Juliette 11.15.09 at 10:22 pm

shouldvevotedforhillary

Thanks, but credit goes to CJK for that one. I just borrowed it.

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Casper Cat 11.15.09 at 10:24 pm

take a look….. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gP7s6CNHTOs&feature=related We Pumas are the next Movement!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :smile:

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Zee 11.15.09 at 10:34 pm

omfg…I’m trying to be a grateful person instead of absolutely horrified all the time by the news…then I open this thread and see that bit about the mom selling her 5 year old as a sex slave. :(

You know…people are absolutely numb. They have to be, I guess. I did an experiment once in a performance poem. I did the entire thing in a monotone, as a spoof on those who mumble through their words no matter what they are saying. I threaded a lot of material in there. One was a verbatim quote from a sex perv talking a mom into giving him her child. “I go in nice and easy…” I put that in there and no one even blinked, no acknowledgement. Yet some quote from some tv show or commercial (I can’t even remember what) garnered huge laughs.

Poison….we’re poisoned…

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Juliette 11.15.09 at 10:36 pm

Great video Casper Cat.
Do you think we can edit the Oprah frame?

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Zee 11.15.09 at 10:39 pm

sistermoon and normapuma from the previous thread:

sistermoon, it was a blast hanging out on the radio chat. I needed that. I didn’t get one thing done, haha, not one! :) And today, I kid you not, I walked around humming Donuts! hahahahaha.

normapuma, and other pumas…I got that link from realclearpolitics. A really good source, that covers all the bases.

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DancesWithPumas 11.15.09 at 10:42 pm

“stupid prick” amendment — © persephone

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Zee 11.15.09 at 11:07 pm

#14 normapuma

Thanks for reminding people…go, pumacraig!!!

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Zee 11.15.09 at 11:13 pm

More on prolife, prochoice vs birth enforcers and womb police.

Compare Sarah Palin with Bob Barr (a so-called Dem, former congress critter).

Sarah was personally pro-life. She upheld the law. She had no agenda.

Bob Barr had an agenda. He was always shooting his mouth off on how women, doctors, everyone involved in abortions should get jail or even execution.

Oh, but when real life intruded?

Sarah Palin kept and gave birth to a special needs baby.

Bob Barr, on the other hand: his second wife became inconveniently pregnant just when he wanted to dump her for wife #3. So he trotted her down to get an abortion to flush away his own inconvenient offspring. It’s only jail or execution for the non-elite, I guess.

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Zee 11.15.09 at 11:14 pm

btw, I used the past tense for Sarah…it’s because her governorship is past…sorry!!

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CJK 11.15.09 at 11:17 pm

Juliette 11.15.09 at 10:22 pm

I might take a teeny bit of credit for the ‘Stupid’ (Stupak) re-name in the ‘Stupid Prick’ Amendment, but credit for the whole amendment (Stupak-Pitt) re-name definitely goes to Persephone! (And there may have been others who had already called it the ‘Stupid’ Amendment before I did…) :) :) :)

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Zee 11.15.09 at 11:20 pm

#25 (((pumacraig))) :(

Sorry to hear your family is not in your life.

I know all about the not being able to drive. I was walking my friend home after a school PTO meeting and she stumbled against me…and apologized. I felt like, don’t! You have nothing to apologize for.

Stay strong…your support will snowball.

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Zee 11.15.09 at 11:25 pm

#33 HP

Good catch!! Give me a fucking break, indeed. He’s scrambling because of the backlash.

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Deb55 11.15.09 at 11:25 pm

In reading overseas news on “O’s” trip found this article intresting.

Also had not heard this reported in U.S. news…China’s will NOT support us against Iran????

“China’s leaders this year have shown a newfound boldness in taking on the US in its drive to secure energy and natural resources.”

“As the US sought sanctions to curb Iran’s suspected nuclear ambitions, Chinese officials have not only moved to block them, but have pressed ahead to sign more than $5bn in oil and natural gas deals.”

So much for sanctions on gas…already signed deal with Venezuela now has one with China…way to go “O”!!!

Check out how they see “O” in photo’s.

http://english.aljazeera.net/focus/2009/11/2009111273213923210.html

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Zee 11.15.09 at 11:28 pm

#37 HP

Not just minimum wage. I’m still looking for my ideal position. Meanwhile, I warn the housemates because I talk back to the ads when I see the compensation. Mostly, I reply “you can kiss my ass” but I can get more colorful than that.

I’d rather be broke than someone’s wage-slave for next to nothing.

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Swannie 11.15.09 at 11:48 pm

stupid prick amendment bwaahhaaahhhaaahhha I will sleep with a smile on my face THANKS Persephone !

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RememberNovember 11.16.09 at 12:01 am

CJK – #61 – I was being facetious! It was all for the photops and to make us believe he was listening to everyone – frankly I have no idea who gave input for the various Bills apart from the obvious Baucus, etc. (Daschle?) – you’re probably right – cobbled together by staff but who really was listened to? One thing – I doubt if BO himself had anything to do with it based on his repeated assertions about total inaccuracies like “you like your physician, you like your plan, you can keep it” when that clearly was NOT the case and HE did not know or understand that …

I’m going to sign off for the night as my connection is slower than molasses :(

“Night dear Pumas – sleep tight :lol:

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Deb55 11.16.09 at 12:05 am

Holy Sh*t I missed something…a WAR going on in the middle east???

Watching Al Jazeer live and it has blown up..in Yemeni with the Houthi’s..Iran is backing The Sunni’s and Saudi is backing the Shia’s…Saudi has evacuated 240 villages in northern Yemen…UN says 150,000 displaced. The whole mess is blowing up and I haven’t heard crap about this one our news. Has anyone else???

“O” fixing to make speech…live..”O” just refused to take questions live without reviewing questions first. What a wimp..

He is on now!!!!!
http://www.livestation.com/channels/3-al_jazeera_english

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Juliette 11.16.09 at 12:11 am

This is a must see video by Act For America’s Brigitte Gabriel.
She is a Christian Palestinian. She could have helped the military prevent the TERRORIST attack on Fort Hood, if they had only listened to her instead of cowardly canceling her lectures.
She is the best example of why I will support a conservative woman in up coming elections. With amazing courage and knowledge on Islam, she speaks with confidence and conviction.
Please sign the petition to have congress investigate CAIR at Act for America.org
Help make this video go viral.

Brigitte Gabriel Blasts Political Correctness (and she means business!)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYYrWrS6fU4

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Deb55 11.16.09 at 12:24 am

Juliette 11.16.09 at 12:11 am

She is a GREAT Lady..love to listen to her she is a wealth of knowledge.

Oh My GOD “O” giving the Chinese students a lesson on SLAVERY..Lincoln..MLK..what a load of SHIT!!!!
Not sure I can even listen to his BS.

He will be taking questions sent in over the internet..and let them ask the questions…PLANTED QUESTIONS

Oh now we are sending over 100,000 students to learn in China.WTF

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pumacraig 11.16.09 at 12:24 am

Casper Cat #63
Thank you I watched the video Center for Women in Politics and Public Policy. I wish I had the health and the time to go through a program like that. I don’t I have to file on Feb. 15, 2010 to be on the ballot. I am flying by the seat of my pants. I can only imagine what kind of reaction I will get that day. A 51 year old women with debilitating Muscular Dystrophy (that use a wheel chair) who has SSA Disability income of $764.00 a month. Who has a Section 8 Housing Voucher for a roof over my head. Who has to have food stamps and has Medicare and Medicaid for Health Insurance. Can you imagine their reaction??? (:

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Juliette 11.16.09 at 12:25 am

Good Night REMNOV.

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Juliette 11.16.09 at 12:29 am

Thanks Debb.
Could you please email Brigitte Gabriel’s youtube video to your friends and family. People need to know that she tried to warn the military and they shut her down in fear of offending a percious Muslim. It seems a woman ranks behind just about anything.

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Deb55 11.16.09 at 12:31 am

pumacraig 11.16.09 at 12:24 am

You could be our own Sarah Palin…in a postive way…a REAL down to earth person with challenges, one that knows what real life is all about.

I would be proud to help in anyway I could.

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pumacraig 11.16.09 at 12:41 am

Thanks Zee #82. I hear ya I stumble a lot even fall every now and then. I am to stubborn to use the wheel chair all the time. I have very little energy I have to lay down and rest a lot.I am pretty sure I will have a couch in my office if the people want me to serve them. Your a kind soul and your friend is very blessed to have you in her life.

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Deb55 11.16.09 at 12:43 am

Juliette 11.16.09 at 12:29 am

Will be happy too. At one point I followed her site regularly Need to start back again.

You do know that they have tried to have her killed before..but she doesn’t stop.
Like I said she is a Great Strong Woman, and stands tall in support of women’s freedoms.

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pumacraig 11.16.09 at 12:57 am

Deb55#94
A Hillary Democrat Sarah Palin… that works for me. You betcha and Ha ha Hillary’s wonderful laugh. Getting tired got to sleep calling Secretary of State office tomorrow to get the filing packet etc. Thank you all for you love and support. Good night and sweet dreams!

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Juliette 11.16.09 at 1:01 am

Good night Pumacraig.
And a strong and fruitful tomorrow.

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Juliette 11.16.09 at 1:09 am

Debb55
I am a member of Act For America and receive emails from them regularly. Brigitte knows that a Christian nation can become a Muslim one as she watched her neighboring country of Lebanon become a Muslim country. It can and will happen here if people don’t actively stand against Shari-ah and political correctness it’s enabler. Thanks for helping the video go viral. I wonder what the loved ones of the deceased soldiers will think when they learn that the military put the feelings of Muslims before the opportunity to hear a knowledgable woman warn them about the threat of radical Muslims in the military.

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Zee 11.16.09 at 1:43 am

One tiny little thing, Juliette. This ain’t no Christian country, thank the HEAVENS.

Nice try, tho. HEAVEN knows we need to follow France’s lead and start banning all this religious GARB.

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Zee 11.16.09 at 2:07 am

omg. See, the difference between FRANCE opposing Islam and nutcases like “Act for America” is that, why the HELL would we want to adopt one nutcase religious fascist organization over another? France is promoting CIVILIZATION.

Here are a few choice tidbits on the Libertarian fascist male nutcases that Juliette is promoting now that she appears to have dropped her former abusive crush, LaRouche.

http://www.loonwatch.com/tag/act-for-america/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geert_Wilders

Like I said: nice try. But not on my watch.

Maybe there’s a nice spa in New Mexico where one can go to “dry out” from trying to promote abusive male cults like LaRouche and the Dutch fascist Geert Wilders. Goddess speed, “Juliette.”

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murphy 11.16.09 at 7:32 am

Quick! Grab a history book. The United States is NOT a christian nation. We are a SECULAR nation. The Rule of LAW, not of “God,” is the foundation of our self-government.

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prplvette85 11.16.09 at 7:34 am

o’fraud the hypocrite in China:
“I think that the more freely information flows, the stronger the society becomes, because then citizens of countries around the world can hold their own governments accountable,” Obama told students during his first-ever trip to China. “They can begin to think for themselves.”

o’fraud = Bush 2 :
“We do not seek to impose any system of government on any other nation,” Obama said. Then he added that freedom of expression and worship, unfettered access to information and unrestricted political participation are not principles held by the United States; instead, he called them “universal rights.”

The line offered echoes of Obama’s predecessor, George W. Bush, who often talked of the “universality of freedom.” Obama talked at length about the Internet, which he said helped him win the presidency because it allowed for the mobilization of young people like those in his audience in Shanghai.
“I’m a big supporter of non-censorship,” Obama said. “I recognize that different countries have different traditions. I can tell you that in the United States, the fact that we have free Internet — or unrestricted Internet access is a source of strength, and I think should be encouraged.”
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091116/ap_on_bi_ge/obama

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prplvette85 11.16.09 at 7:45 am

Good Morning Murphy!

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murphy 11.16.09 at 8:08 am

hey there Prple!

Morning Pumas, today is a new day!

Obama Calls Himself posted,

take it upstairs!

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