It May Not Have Been an “Abortion Bill” Before,

I say, Hell yes to two women I adore….

Hell yes Murphy for your post and for putting a real woman that speaks for women’s rights right in the face of the dipshit that pretends to be our President, that doesn’t give a ratsass in protecting women’s reproductive rights.

For all you religious freaks that think that women shouldn’t have the right to refuse to raise a child on their own, to live with their children in poverty or take care of a child from a rape, I say go to freaking Hell!!!

As a single parent raising a male and both of us living on the edge of poverty all our lives, abused by a man that walked out of our lives as soon as I was pg, I say, I have been there, I am still there, and if the Democrats don’t stand up for women in this health bill, this over the top, waste of paper, they are going to loose another Democrat, millions more PUMAs will move into the tent of Independents, and try to win one more chance at the Whitehouse without us.

Hillary is our President, she stands for the Democratic principles we have fought for, without her and her principles, you can all go to Hell in a tiny handbasket.

Thank you Nancy Pelosi for selling out women to get your ugly name on this 25 pound pile of lies. I will never forget what you have done Nancy. I will never forget the primary election and I will never vote for this corruption!

Thank you Hillary and Murphy!!!

I will donate to keep the lights on.

Here here Murphy! Thanks for standing strong, just like Hillary in that video. She won’t back down and neither will we.
BillieJoe… well said. But think about it. If the fukwit won’t even stand up and speak against that terrorist that shot people at his army base, Do you really think he is going to stand up for us? for any American people? He is only out for his own personal agenda. He proved that when he only wanted the hc passed and did not close down and fly to Ft. Hood.
CIC-NO (commander in chief)
POS-YES (piece of shit)

help!
why is the time wonky?

(((MamaPuma))), don’t worry, it’s not time for bed yet.

Murphy… Ya! I was asking goofsmom the other night…. Well, we all fall back but, puma time adds another hour….. Hope you are doing well and the best to you and your family…..

Casper Cat,

Saw your post last thread… look forward to hearing from ya on Wed…

OT..
“A monument of shame for Kenya”

“I speak for many Kenyans when I say it’s a big shame for our ever-begging government to think of spending Sh112 million on a monument to honour President Barack Obama.”

http://www.nation.co.ke/oped/Letters/-/440806/683904/-/iyq6ql/-/index.html

DWP…. Oh, I thought time existed so everyone could remember what they have not done yet!

Murphy… speaking of time…. Very weird and interesting… Oh, I love Dali… hope you enjoy…. wait until about 1 minute and half… Very different… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsmMwMfo95o almost forget to post the link….

Don’t know anything about Connecticut politics, but just came across this article. Current woman Governor won’t seek re-election next year. Any PUMAs interested in running for Governor of Connecticut?

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/11/09/connecticut-gov-rell-decides-seek-term/

“Persistence of Memory” – Salvator Dali

With all due respect to our SOS Hillary Clinton: “we are now an administration that will protect the rights of women” Uh WHAT?!?!

I am sure that “an administration of eight years undid so much good work” but if we have not yet realized that Obama is even worse we are surely doomed. Not just on issues of a women’s right to choose but on our nations right to call an Islamic terrorist what the hell he is.
The Clintons made a hugh mistake in supporting the Obama-Pelosi dictatorship. The democratic primary was a travisty of democracy and to not take a stand against the DNC and for democracy was a hugh mistake made by the Clintons. They could have supported McCain Palin. Or, Hillary could have at least started a third party up an running. Even if she lost we would be better off with McCain Palin. Woman will lose more than there abortion rights during Obama’s presidency. I do not worship any political leaders. HRC made a mistake in supporting and activily campaigning for the worst candidate in our nations history. A man who gives a “shout out” before acknowledging the worst terrorist attack on American lives since 911. What a mistake
During the debates Hillary asked Barak Obama to denounce and reject Louis Farahkhan.
I ask this of the Clintons now. Denounce and reject Obama- Pelosi and the DNC who defeated democracy and continue to ignore the will of the people.
If they do not have the courage to tear down this party they deserve to go down with it.

admin 11.09.09 at 10:05 pm

via miq2xu, Arthur Silber on the “Fuck You Act”

http://powerofnarrative.blogspot.com/2009/11/fuck-you-act.html

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Hmmm I hope all the voter in Massachusetts vote in the Rebublican for Kennedy’s seat!!!!
Fuck you Obuma!
FUCK YOU DEMOCRATICS and your FUCK AMERICA CRAP BILL!!!!

BillieJo
ayup.

(((Dances)))

jfc, I am trying to hold my tongue, got to shut the computer down.

WTF!!!

I’m speechless…. (((Dances, BillieJo, Prplvette)))

(((((((((HP Boston))))))))) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIqxnYZZNB8 “We Will Never Give in or Give Up”………… Love ya too!!!

Do you think Harry can get the 60 votes in the Senate?

(((simofish)))

Thank you for your patience with all my questions…

As far as Reid… See #32 up thread… seems prolifers in the Senate want the anti-abortion language added to the Baccus bill before they vote on it. F*ckers

Okay, I can’t stand it.

Juliette, there are a lot of things you could have said on this thread, but ripping on Hillary was just uncalled for.

You have done this time and time again and I personally am damn sick of it.
Doesn’t Sarah Palin have a blog you would feel more comfortable on, where you could post your disappointment with Hillary on a daily basis and you wouldn’t have to upset so many of Hillary’s supporters???

Why do you find such a need to do this on Murphy’s blog?????

FL Barbara,

Damn Straight… it a “How to support our Cronys, get kick backs, bankrupt the public, and screw the american women” bill…

But that takes toooo long to say…. Let’s just call it the “F*ck ‘em Bill”

simofish

Do you think Harry can get the 60 votes in the Senate?
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I think it depends on if Harry has unlimited pork to pass out to buy some votes.

FlaBarbara

I got news for Obama. It isn’t a health care bill either.
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It certainly isn’t. Has anyone noticed how health insurance stocks soared today? Hum.
HR 3962 was an Obama-Pelosi power grab bill, nothing more. They didn’t care what the hell form the bill took, as long as they could tell the sheeple they passed health care reform. What a joke.
Anyone who loves Hillary would advise her to run for her life from this toxic administration.
Denounce and reject!
No weed for me please, I’m a recovering liberal.

simofish

FL — YOU KILL ME — YOU HAVE THE BEST ONE LINERS !!
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I agree, FL is a bumpersticker machine!

shouldvevotedforhillary #42

Thank you!

To lighten up the day

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybQBPClzgXA&feature=popular

Puma-SF 11.09.09 at 11:12 pm

Warning! If you’re gay you are not welcomed at the Vatican:

——————————————–Ya pedophiles only ….

simofish 11.09.09 at 11:16 pm

Puma-SF
First I’ve heard of a church that doesn’t welcome “sinners”… as defined by their Bibull.

Too late… I’ve been to the Vatican… with another lesbian no less.

Simofish

And they are still talking about all your smooching at the Vatican.LOL

Puma-SF,

#68 – the world keeps getting weirder every day…. If I couldn’t laugh my head would keep exploding, until it finally won’t grow back…

BillieJo
It doesn’t appear that your query to Juliette will receive any response.

(((Dances)))

Good for you!

Juliette #65

It’s the truth! I’m just waiting for everyone else to denounce and reject…

If you are waiting for us to denounce and reject Hillary, start holding your breath.

Sorry, Not denouncing Hillary… Hell No, I won’t Say it!!

FL Barbara,

LOL… great one!!! Smoooooochiefish…

FYI, below is HRC’s response to Tom Brokaw’s question re the hc bill during an interview today about the 20th anniversary of the tearing down of the Berlin Wall. Interview transcript at this link — http://alwaysforhillary.blogspot.com/2009_11_01_archive.html#5267625148748208738

“QUESTION: You’re a veteran of another kind of war. Do you have any advice for the President on how to get healthcare finally passed?

SECRETARY CLINTON: Well, I was thrilled that it was finally passed in the House. I called him as soon as the vote was over. I called the Speaker. This is an extraordinary accomplishment. Now we turn our attention to the Senate, try to get them to go along with their own version, because having been in the Senate for eight years, I know they won’t take the House version and just pass it. But I’m very optimistic. I think we’re going to get a bill by the end of the year.

QUESTION: How long do you think it’ll be before we see Harry and Louise on television?

SECRETARY CLINTON: You know what, I think Harry and Louise have thought better of what they said 16 years ago. (Laughter.) So I don’t think you’ll see Harry and Louise. You see the tea parties and interrupted town halls, but most Americans over the course of the last 16 years have really understood more about what was at stake in this healthcare debate. It’s not just about those who don’t have insurance. It’s about the quality of your insurance and the cost of your insurance. And for a while, people thought, well, we’ll haggle it through the insurance system itself. But that didn’t work. And so now there’s a readiness that we saw enacted in that close vote in the House, and I think that the senators heard that message.”

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My question: How can HRC possibly view the monstrosity of a hc bill passed last Sat. as being in any way similar to what she had in mind for hc reform? Also, though I’m glad for HRC’s presence as this administration’s only grownup, experienced leader and true statesperson, I do not understand how she can continue to go along with BO and his arrogant, ridiculous, reckless policies. I want her to stand up for what she truly believes. I want the HRC that I campaigned and voted for in the primary.

shouldavotedforhillary

You’re challenging people who had the foresight to vote for HRC in the first place. Please don’t pronounce anything as “The Truth”, that’s always the first lie.
Finding one person who is in agreement, does not The Truth make.

PS Hillary Rodham Clinton is officially a Puma, in case you didn’t know. Denouncing her is not the path you want to travel on this blog. Just so you know.

BillieJo

What Juliette and I are talking about is denouncing and rejecting Obama and all the garbage he puts out. I am an unyielding supporter of Hillary, but she is a politician and I have any right to voice my opinions when I disagree with what she is saying the Obama administration is an administration that will protect the rights of women. I don’t agree with that and will voice my opinion because the simple truth is the Obama administrations does NOT protect the rights of women.

FL Barbara,

Ditto’s…. I say thank you to Hillary everyday for standing up for Women around the globe…. (I also say a little prayer for her well being)

P.S. I would hope it would go without saying since I’ve participated on this blog since Denver, but my comment #89 above is not in any way meant to ‘denounce’ or ‘reject’ HRC. I am, indeed, thankful to her for upholding women’s rights, and for being a beacon of brilliance, feminism and sanity in an otherwise lackwitted, sexist/misogynistic, power-mad administration.

Goofsmom ..I won’t denounce Hillary either !!! Thanks, Murphy, for the tribute to single moms. I made it through that all right, but was poor most of the time. I have a wonderful daughter who is an adult now.

I can barely stand to watch the news. Whenever I see Pelosi smiling I want to scream and scream and scream. As the old saying goes, the world is going to hell in a handbasket (never knew what that meant but it sounded good.}

On the positive side, I have not had a cigarette since the 3rd week in August.Hope the other quitters are doing well.

((((Sandy LF))))

Good to see you….

DancesWithPumas

Again, if you read Juliette’s and my comments over you will see we are not denouncing or rejecting HRC and NEVER asked anyone to denounce and reject her either.

Seriously

Hillary is the Secretary of State.
Do you honestly believe for one minute she could “denounce” the President?

She is doing her job and she is doing a great job and she is the only one doing their job.

And it is ALL she has to do for the next 4 years.Her JOB.

Let them fight it out in the WH, the house and the Senate.

Someone will be standing when the houses all fall down and go Boom and it will be Hillary.

She will have the last laugh trust me.

Thanks, BillieJo. Please see my comment #97. I do understand the dilemma she’s in. My opinion of her qualities as a brilliant American feminist and statesperson has not changed. If only we could somehow have her run for POTUS sooner rather than later! This country desperately needs her to save it, now more than ever!

Let’s all go to the Vatican and smooch.

Where did smooooochiefish go?

CJK #89

Thanks for presenting the hard reality.

PUMAS

And for all this talk about denouncing Hillary. Who asked for anyone to do that? I asked that Bill and Hillary denounce this toxic administration and this undemocratic party.
Shouldvevotedforhillary even said in her comment that she remains optomistic that Hillary will someday be president.

BillieJo said :
If the democrats don’t stand up for women in this bill, this over the top waste of paper, they are going to loose another democrat.
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Well how about two more democrats BillieJo. How about Bill and Hillary?

CJK 11.10.09 at 12:11 am

Thanks, BillieJo. Please see my comment #97. I do understand the dilemma she’s in. My opinion of her qualities as a brilliant American feminist and statesperson has not changed. If only we could somehow have her run for POTUS sooner rather than later! This country desperately needs her to save it, now more than ever!
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Yup, I totally agree.

shouldvevotedforhillary 11.10.09 at 12:03 am
DancesWithPumas
Again, if you read Juliette’s and my comments over you will see we are not denouncing or rejecting HRC and NEVER asked anyone to denounce and reject her either.
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Youre right. I don’t read that in your comment. Apologies.
But I do see whatshername’s directive that the Clinton’s should have campaigned for mcwar/palin-aint-no-hillary; and that if HRC doesn’t heed whatshername’s directive, “If they do not have the courage to tear down this party they deserve to go down with it.” (with ALL DUE RESPECT, of course).

FL Barbara,

OMG… that’s so funny… Which bumper sticker?

WAIT!! who’s smooching?? I want to smooch at the Vatican too…
so many cool little nooks and crannies there to smooch in too.

Someone sign my Smooch Card, pleasethankyou

shouldvevotedhillary,

Don’t even want to think about 8 years… Not going to happen, won’t let it happen… So Hillary goes on working for Women, keeping to herself, doing a stellar job and comes out blasting in 2012.

Dances,

FL Barbara is putting a Puma Vatican Smooching trip together…

FL — come to SF and visit us !! PLEASE

Goofsmom

I mailed her How’s that Hopey Changey thing workin out for Ya?

I thought it was perfect for her.
What do you think?

simofish 11.10.09 at 12:28 am

FL — come to SF and visit us !! PLEASE
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Oooooooooo, a midnight prowl pasting bumperstickers all over Hell and back.

goofsmom

Wanted to thank you for helping me deal with that first night…when little Somer went missing.

Just watched Diena on nightline, and I really don’t know how much more pain she can take…so many evil men in the world.
Have spent the last 3 weeks working with the family.

Read this and take a deep breath, all of our lifes could be so much worse.

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/somer-thompson-mother-diena-searches-killer/comments?type=story&id=9029804

Also if anyone would like to help with finding this killer, please go and ready our site. We have a fundraiser going, and are offering coupon books, that we had donated 100% is going to the reward and family. Please pass along, thanks

http://www.womenhelpingwomencmit.com/somer.html

Dances

The Clintons along with many other democrats always had great respect for John McCain. After volunteering for Hillary and giving my all for her I gave my support to the candidates I knew would be much better for America than Obama. I voted for McCain-Palin.
I would never vote for someone that I could refer to as McWar; how about you?
Obama’s policy of acceptance for anything related to Islam will result in more not less wars. Hillary is not afraid to be hawkish on Islamic terror when neccisary. But she is a caged hawk in this administration.
I hope she liberates herself soon.

Odd that suggesting that Hillary Clinton is a woman who can think, formulate and act of her own free volition isn’t worthy of discussion. Perhaps it’s best to keep her in the realm of Santa Claus where all good Pumas can impart their vision of who and what she is.

Me – I just respect and admire the woman. Voted for her, contributed to her campaign and would again.

Because of you…Puma is fantasy and an act of intellectual masturbation. You do a severe disservice to those who truly want to make a difference.

Shame on you. You have no respect for women nor for your community.

I’m ready, simo. Let’s go. Come on, FL. We’ll take care of you and simo will feed you.

LOL… Cupcake car it is…

Puma-SF,

Don’t forget Dances… she’s still waiting to have her smooochie card signed…

Sounds like a lovely PUMA meetup, simo, BillieJo, Puma-SF and FLBarbara! I’ve gotta get some of those bumper stickers, FLBarbara. The one you sent Brazile (for her rear) is perfect!
I’m pretty tired from all the channeling I must have done for my last comment on last thread. So, I’ll just say good-night to all lovely, wonderful PUMAs everywhere! Thanks for being you!

Oops, “lovely PUMA meetup, simo, BillieJo, Puma-SF, FLBarbara, Dances, goofsmom…”

goofs: Her cards probably already full.

Puma-SF 11.10.09 at 12:49 am
goofs: Her cards probably already full.
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Guess again! Nice try tho.

Puma-SF,

Yep, Dances is one popular, perky Puma… :lol

shouldvevotedforhillary,

#149 – Oh MY…. LMAO in disbelief…

FL Barbara,

#151 – I couldn’t help myself… I had to mention it… hehehe… quick help me hide…

goofs…barbara
you can run… but you can not hide!!

They won’t even be able to criticize him for the coke and blow job without implicating barrybama

bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahaaha

FLBarbara
send another envelope… me thinks youre gonna need more bumperstickers

goofs
your pun…
not nice

Do you think Obama will campaign for his aaaagggg friend Larry?

If larry gets elected he’ll coke I mean vote for the HC bill.

Don’t be shy, Dances.

Goofs and Barbara
I can’t keep abreast of you so I’m going to have to nip this in the bud. Knock it off.
;p

oops… the witching hour.
‘night Pumas

Wait a minute. Who is this guy?

D.K. Jamaal is an educator, entertainer, and co-founder of the PUMA (Party Unity My A–!) political movement. He was born in Savannah, GA the son of a public school principal and a military vet. He was an Atlanta Journal-Constitution Scholar and a Warner Brothers Fellow in Cinema-Television Critical Studies and Screenwriting at the University of Southern California. Formerly a script analyst for Warner Brothers and a volunteer for several political campaigns, he currently pals around with surfers, teachers, and musicians, residing in a bungalow on the California coast.

http://www.examiner.com/x-19823-PostPartisan-Examiner~y2009m11d9-GOP-Chairman-Michael-Steele-agrees-white-Republicans-scared-of-black-folks?cid=examiner-email#

What’s larrys slogan.

Dope you can believe in?

shouldvevotedforhillary: I have been loving his articles and his mention of PUMA but I had no idea he was actually involved. I sent him a lot of emails and was hoping he would cover the march in Richmond. He never responded.

Dances

Goodnight…and you don’t need anyone to point the way do you?

Sweet dreams

FL Barbara,

#176 – giggling with my hands over my mouth…

Deb 55,

#175 – The shocking thing about that is, it’s 21 years later and he is still in office.

Wow, I guess the people in his district really don’t care or he has enough money to buy his seat… pretty sad commentary, either way…

I have very busy day of bumper stickerring tomorrow so I will say goodnight
Sweet Dreams

And yes Dances does hear everything you say LOL

Be careful Goofs

Nighty-night (((PUMAs)))

Pelosicare is “an UNCONSTITUTIONAL ATTACK on ALL American’s right to privacy, equal rights under the law, and freedom under its cloak.”

There you go Murphy.

#37 Juliette.

Nice try. Yeah, everyone’s emotions are running high, but we already KNEW that our rights would erode under this Trojan Ass moreso than under McCain because partisanship would’ve kept Dems and protesters focused on their issues rather than assuming it was all taken care of under Pretendident Hopey-changey.

You know who Hillary reminds me of? The 12th fairy in Sleeping Beauty. The king and queen only invited 12 out of 13 fairies in the kingdom to the celebration of the birth of the princess, because they only had 12 place settings. Each of the fairies bestowed gifts on the baby princess, but after 11 of them the uninvited fairy, who was bitter and furious, stepped out and put a curse on the child, that she would prick her finger at age 17 and die.
The 12th fairy had held back and now she emerged and said “I can’t undo this evil, but I can allay it”—and she gifted that the princess wouldn’t die, but merely sleep until rescued.

Hillary Clinton is not responsible for this mess, she’s not complicit, and I, for one, am glad as hell she’s doing what she can to allay a little bit of the evil upon us.

But as I said, nice try, Juliette. That’s some ambitious agenda you’ve got going there.

Here’s another one on how “PC” feminism has failed us, now that Mr. “what a feminist looks like” has thrown us (yet again) under the bus:

http://pajamasmedia.com/phyllischesler/2009/11/09/women’s-reproductive-rights-thrown-under-obama’s-bus/

Sorry if this is a repeat…I don’t have time to catch up beyond Murphy’s awesome posts!

Nicely put, Murphy! And Stupak can’t believe his luck
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2009/11/10/stupak-on-the-table-since-july-got-more-than-we-wanted/

Juliette

You always bravely speak your truth and stand your ground.

I am also disappointed at HRC working for Obama. It’s madness.
But I hold out hope that he will implode and she will be the one left standing.

Reading between the lines, it seems Hillary is guiding US foreign policy-even if she gets no credit from O or the media.
Ever get the feeling that without her the US would be completely and utterly screwed?
Obama has no idea what is going on outside his own little world-and one gets the feeling that he probably doesn’t care. Unless it’s about him, which is what the foreign press is starting to say.

After the commission of the Navy ship in NY and the Berlin Wall celebration Obama blew off, HRC seems more and more like the “real” president.

Holding on to one last bit of hope and will keep reading about the State Department’s activities via their website.
Lots of really amazing stuff and helps me sleep at night knowing the grownups are doing the important work.

Meanwhile, has anyone seen or heard from Robert Gates? What happened to that guy?

Just call me Gator, Murphy.

I call what passed in the House as Peloiscare, because Dear Leader has never written or submitted anything to Congress. That was her bill from start to finish. We got Reidcare coming up in the Senate, which is turning out to be a even bigger boondoggle (because they never do anything small there). I’ll call it Obamacare when it’s in final bill form after conference (if it gets that far).