Was listening to On Point with Tom Ashbrooke this morning on WBUR (my local NPR station), ruining an otherwise glorious drive along a Great Metrowest country road in late September. Why do we do things that cause us emotional and mental pain? Willfully agreeing to jeopardize our long-term health and general well-being?
What jackasses these jokers are. Katrina vanden Heuvel and Jack Beatty are unmitigated SNOBS and have pretty much ZERO idea of what our government is and how it’s supposed to operate. When the people govern themselves Jack and Kat it can get a bit, erm, messy. I think they honestly believe only people who have graduated from good colleges should be allowed to vote.
It’s reverse fascism. Or something. Maybe it’s “The Fascism of Good Intentions.” Hey, I like that idea — that would make a great debate topic among some super smart historian/legal/political types. Too bad all of the smart historian/legal/political types subscribe with their whole hearts and minds to the Prescribed System of Thinking for Well Intentioned Thoughtful Liberls.
Oy vey.
Meanwhile, the “president” of Iran is saying the Holocaust was made up to provide an “excuse” to set up a Jewish state in Palestine; disagreeing with the president’s policies makes you a racist; and anyone who criticizes the government or supports the Second Amendment is as bad as Lee Harvey Oswald or Sirhan Sirhan.
Also, what about this new move in Turkey to encourage families to force their daughters into “honor suicides” in order to avoid the stigma which attaches to “honor killings” so that Turkey can increase its chances of being admitted to the European Union?
Oy vey.
Anyways, for a heartwarming love story, read THIS. True, romantic love. A woman who respects her background, loves her parents, and wants to honor them. Lovely. Then read the comments. Holy smokes.
If, after reading the article and the comments you still don’t understand how it is possible for us to hate Islam but love muslim women, then you are too fucking stupid to read this blog and I invite you to please go away.
If, after watching the video of the boy being beat into submission on the school bus you still don’t understand how it is possible for us to know that hatred of white people played a part in the thug’s attack and the crowd’s support but that knowing this and hating it does NOT make us racists, then you are too fucking stupid to read this blog and I invite you to please go away.
If, after 15 months of daily posts, essays, articles, actions, and everything else, you still don’t understand that we really, truly, deeply DISAGREE about lots of things in this world and that there is no Book of Righteousness out there in which you and your “Right Way of Thinking” is described, but that our responsibility as citizens is to work together to maintain and exercise the power of the people, then you are really fucking stupid, but I hope you will continue to read this blog.
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murphy 09.18.09 at 12:43 pm
p.s. in case anyone missed Violet Sox’s take on the Kanye West Taylor Swift Jackass Imbroglio the other day, I make it easy for you to rectify the situation pronto:
http://www.reclusiveleftist.com/2009/09/14/your-pop-culture-reporter-at-work/
my favorite part?
“If we ever get a little too oaty with our feminism here and start fantasizing that society has fundamentally evolved since, say, 1966, all we need to do is listen to this song. In it, Beyonce tells her former owner that since he didn’t “put a ring on it,” he’s got no business complaining if another brother wishes to take a turn owning (or possibly renting or just test-driving) “it.” What “it” wants, apparently, is an owner who will deliver it to “a destiny, to infinity and beyond.” Then it puts the lotion in the basket and the ghost of Laura Nyro comes on and sings about wedding bells. Progress.”
exactoMUNDO violet.
murphy 09.18.09 at 12:47 pm
dak is great on krugman on the horrible baucus proposal:
http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2009/09/18/incoherency-is-not-an-asset/
HP Boston 09.18.09 at 1:00 pm
:wicked:
I have no words!! Murphy!
I hear YOU……..
HP Boston 09.18.09 at 1:25 pm
I read your great post after having a conversation with my daughter about all the crap out there her child is exposed to on a daily basis! It is even in SCHOOL! She then said but Mom I give him values that you gave me and show him love and affection that we as a family shared with you and Dad, and I do in my home as well. And I feel that I am a good person,
she said..
Well wow I am crying……
I said you were raised in the 70ties and 80ties a whole different culture…….the world is a cesspool now.
goofsmom 09.18.09 at 1:33 pm
Right on Murphy!!!
I am happy to say, I’m not one of the Stoopids, I get it and will be here doing what I can for a long time…
HP Boston,
What a wonderful daughter you raised… I sure between the both of you the grandbabies will turn out great!…
goofsmom 09.18.09 at 1:35 pm
Almost forgot….
My favorite daily thought…. “You have to vote for her!”
goofsmom 09.18.09 at 1:37 pm
BBL…
(((BillieJo)))
Hugs to all Pumas, extra hugs to those enduring difficult times right now…
CJK 09.18.09 at 1:37 pm
Wow! Great post, Murphy. My favorite part “…our responsibility as citizens is to work together to maintain and exercise the power of the people.” Awoman, Murphy. Awoman! While many of us in the middle have been trying to do exactly that, we’ve had to contend with the RW wackadoos trying to co-opt us and drown us out, while the PSOTFWITL (“Prescribed System of Thinking for Well Intentioned Thoughtful Liberls”) attempted to demean and marginalize us, as we’ve tried time and again to speak out against corruption, fraud, lies, thuggery and outright tyranny (including the theft of the D primary and the general election by BO and his D cronies, the DNC RBC, and ACORN, which trampled the sanctity of the individual vote — a central premise of our democracy). I think the PSOTFWITL includes the media formerly known as mainstream. I think I may just start calling them all the TWITS (Thinking for Well Intentioned Thoughtful Liberals) for short. Anyway, I absolutely agree with your entire post, Murphy. Thank you!
prplvette85 09.18.09 at 1:38 pm
RUN MURPHY RUN! You have an amazing way of getting our point across!
sometimes I feel like I am the newspaper in the birdcage of life. got to take mother in law to doctors… bbl!
scarlet 09.18.09 at 1:41 pm
LEGISLATION
HR 1479 COMMUNITY REINVESTMENT MODERNIZATION ACT OF 2009
The purpose of the bill is to close the wealth gap in the U.S. by increasing home ownership and small business ownership for low and moderate income borrowers and persons of color. The CRA standards would be applied to minorities, regardless of income, going beyond earlier requirements that applied solely to the low and moderate income areas.
&
Student Aid and Fiscal Responsibility Act of 2009 – H.R.3221
House passes overhaul of college aid program
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HOUSE DOUBLES IN SIZE?
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HOUSE ETHICS UPDATE AND HEALTH PLAN
More at 411 on the 111 pumapac forum:
http://pumapac.org/forums/411-on-the-111/comment-page-6/#comment-377176
CJK 09.18.09 at 1:42 pm
P.S. We’ve tried time and again to speak out against the abject sexism/misogyny that seems to have grown into an outright epidemic here in the United States and around the world. I thank you and PUMA PAC for leading that effort and for giving women and girls a safe haven and home for speaking out.
Susie1945 09.18.09 at 1:44 pm
Ugh!!!!!!!!!! May have to cancel my Barnes & Noble card – just got an email from them extolling Oprah’s new book pick – I wouldn’t read anything she recommended even if it was good just becuz I’m gettin’ awfully tired of her too – she doesn’t speak for me, she doesn’t represent me, she’s just another former journalist/tv anchor who thinks she’s got something important to tell all of us stupid white women – met her a long time ago just before she got her big show in Chicago to go nationwide – was also her big premier of Color Purple – she was starting to get the big head even then……………
scarlet 09.18.09 at 1:45 pm
From Chamber of Commerce:
MOVEON.ORG’S 11TH Birthday
What do you get the group that has everything? A petition, of course.
September 18, 2009, marks the 11th anniversary since the founding of MoveOn.org. Help us blow out the candles on this radical group for all they’ve done to drive American politics into the gutter. For 11 long years, they have repeatedly been THE source of embarrassment in our political system.
http://www.friendsoftheuschamber.com/moveover/?utm_source=moveon&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=text_link_2
AniEm 09.18.09 at 1:49 pm
Glenn Beck, devoted to hyperbole as he is, drew an interesting parallel between the white people at the top of ACORN and its lackeys at the bottom of the agency – comparing it to a plantation. I honestly think he could have applied this parallel to the faux-Democratic Party. The white power-brokers at the top seem to be counting on “our negroes” to riot on cue. The implication that African Americans are this easily led is reprehensible and the ongoing promotion of racial, class, gender and age conflicts is, in my mind, treason. Most people of all races, classes, creeds just want to live in peace.
BTW, “The Fascism of Good Intentions” is a book that needs to be written, the book you have in you, Murphy. I just question whether anyone in government has good intentions at this point. Unless a civil war is their method of decreasing the “carbon footprint”.
CJK 09.18.09 at 1:49 pm
P.P.S. Guess the acronym really technically should be TWITLs, but TWITs sounds better to me, especially when referring to the media…
MamaPuma 09.18.09 at 1:51 pm
go here to see funny ACORN street graphiti
http://biggovernment.com/2009/09/17/acorn-funded-prostitution-zone/
MamaPuma 09.18.09 at 1:57 pm
Andrew Breibart from biggovernment.com exposes CNN and other media outlets for refusing to show the ACORN scandal videos and for attacking the young filmmakers.
http://biggovernment.com/
DancesWithPumas 09.18.09 at 2:07 pm
For 11 long years, they have repeatedly been THE source of embarrassment in our political system
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I thought moveon.org waa doing a service for like minded citizens in supporting Democratic candidates and causes (end the republican wars, etc.). Where’s the embarrassment?
I thought they were great and was a member until pre-obama.
etchedinthestars 09.18.09 at 2:12 pm
Social issues are never one-sided. They are just reported to us this way to place the blame somewhere specific instead of all over the place. The media would have people believing that the only group for which racism occurs is that against African Americans. It is just in no way realistic of what truly goes on. I feel bad for the boy on the school bus because I know that he is just one instance of many. It goes on more than the media wants us to know, and not just with children. It is as bad as claiming that there are no homeless in America, or no children in America in need of adoption. Just. Not. True.
simofish 09.18.09 at 2:13 pm
Islam sucks, Racism SUCKS, Obama Sucks and so does Bill Ayers !!
HP Boston 09.18.09 at 2:14 pm
DancesWithPumas 09.18.09 at 2:07 pm
Yup and we thoght the Dems were for women and NOW was for women and Hillary got 18 million votes…well ya she did but ahh so what!
HP Boston 09.18.09 at 2:15 pm
thought……we were so duped!
kat in your hat 09.18.09 at 2:20 pm
Connecting the Insidious Obama and ACORN Nexus
http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/09/17/connecting-the-insidious-obama-and-acorn-nexus/
[Vid] Leno Shows APORN’s Popularity While House Votes To Defund
http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/09/18/breaking-news-house-votes-to-defund-acorn/
DancesWithPumas 09.18.09 at 2:27 pm
#23
Love the commercial… esp the “extra votes” section!
Imagine, one filmmaker and jouranalist, using a few thousand dollars of their own money, did the job ‘our’ multi-billion dollar treasonous media industry wasn’t willing to do.
MSM Sucks.
scarlet 09.18.09 at 2:28 pm
New Ads Caution Washington Not to Tax Hard-Working Families
Strength of Coalition Demonstrates Concern about Slippery Slope on Grocery Taxes
WASHINGTON – Americans Against Food Taxes (AAFT) is releasing two new ads this week that caution Washington policy-makers against raising grocery costs on middle-class families by taxing their juice drinks and soda, as well as demonstrating the strength of a diverse coalition concerned about a slippery slope once government reaches into the grocery cart with new taxes.
Picking up from the focus on middle-class families in ads the coalition ran this summer, AAFT’s next execution in the campaign is a television ad featuring a mother with her family reminding Washington that pennies add up for hard-working families struggling through a recession.
The mother expresses concern about the negative impact of a tax. “Families around here are counting pennies to get through this economy. So when we hear about another tax it gets our attention.” She continues: “They say it’s only pennies. Well, those pennies add up when you’re trying to feed a family. Washington, if you’re listening, what doesn’t seem like much to you can be a lot to us.”
http://www.nofoodtaxes.com/updated-press-release-new-ads-caution-washington-not-to-tax-hard-working-families/
http://www.nofoodtaxes.com/
scarlet 09.18.09 at 2:29 pm
Should contraception qualify for climate funds?
http://news.cnet.com/8301-11128_3-10355608-54.html
kat in your hat 09.18.09 at 2:30 pm
#18 Dances,
Yes, I didn’t have a problem with MoveOn before all this either. Then Hillary “leaked” her criticism of moveon, and how they were busing in people for the caucus sites and intimidating people. (I am not sure that was a 100% down low recording, I always thought she knew it would be leaked so people (we) would KNOW what happened for sure. But that’s just me.)
(flashback article)
Hillary Clinton dissed party activists and MoveOn.org
April 18, 2008
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/04/hillary-clin-10.html
murphy 09.18.09 at 2:35 pm
OMG, I just realized the boys at Hillbuzz were probably in a tizzy of joy over the tribulations of ACORN (an org they HAAAATE with the burning passion of ten thousand suns) so I went over to check it out and was catching up on the posts, when i came across this one from Sept. 11:
http://hillbuzz.org/2009/09/11/september-11th-2009-lionel-and-jane-sent-us/
It’s about a black man who died of AIDS and an Asisan woman who died in the WWTC on 9/11. Is the author a racist?
You decide.
I found myself alternating between sobbing and laughing hysterically. Hillbuzz is obviously an extremely talented writer, but so much more than spinning a great yarn in this piece, he shows how absurd the very concept of racism has become.
kat in your hat 09.18.09 at 2:38 pm
Danced #24
I KNOW!! These two kids cracked the stupid nut. MEANWHILE, bloggers and researchers were breaking their backs looking up info on ACORN and trying everything to bring light to the situation for sooo long. Now, maybe the information will get a second look because others will be searching ACORN online to learn more. Some will probably wind up at puma pac’s “Investigating ACORN” forum.
These kids succeeded because of the whole “sex sells” thing. It’s like, a politician not paying millions in taxes is dry and boring, but if he has an affair all hell breaks loose.
Hey, at this point, whatever works, eh.
prplvette85 09.18.09 at 2:50 pm
kat in your hat 09.18.09 at 2:30 pm
#18 Dances,
Yes, I didn’t have a problem with MoveOn before all this either. Then Hillary “leaked” her criticism of moveon, and how they were busing in people for the caucus sites and intimidating people. (I am not sure that was a 100% down low recording, I always thought she knew it would be leaked so people (we) would KNOW what happened for sure. But that’s just me.)
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No Kat it is not just you, it was not a down low recording. We were made aware before the primary. At my campaign office we were on the phone with some very “high up” contacts from the Clinton campaign, past and present and some politicians as well. It will all be exposed…too late, but it is not over yet.
kat in your hat 09.18.09 at 2:51 pm
#28 Good read all around!
”Why’d someone bury you in that? It so ugly? Everyone hated you! Ha ha ha”.
LOLOL!!
simofish 09.18.09 at 2:51 pm
Murph – #28 — I am loving Jane. Not another September 11th will go by without me thinking of her. Thanks for pointing this our way !
HP Boston 09.18.09 at 3:12 pm
Gee why am I “hearing” Asisanforhillary in my head!!
Sept. 11 is to remember always to be aware of terror and terrorists, always.
kat in your hat 09.18.09 at 3:16 pm
prplvette85 #30
omg, it was the worst back then…remember when Hillary had a bold post–that box–on the front page of her website: “IF YOU ARE HAVING PROBLEMS [voting, getting into] AT POLLING SITES–TELL US.” Or “IF YOU HAVE ANY INFORMATION…” …it was maddening. Meanwhile the news was still Obama-mania and showing Oblow with halos around his head and 24/7 mega church rally coverage of “Yes We Can” lunacy…and the media would show just little bits of Hillary’s rallies and cut her off…sigh. I was an aggressive Hillary Rapid Responder, so I was trying to get the caucus info and everything else out non-stop. Very powerless feeling, back when the media truly was like 90% positive for O. Scary too, especially the obots, believing everything in the media and every lie Obama told–chanting and becoming so obsessive w/ their Hillary hatred and Obama’s cult of personality. It was like watching millions of Americans become posessed. Scary shit. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cult_of_personality
kat in your hat 09.18.09 at 3:25 pm
possessed*
Oh, and I just had a flash of a memory, of Bill Clinton standing on top of a pickup truck in Texas, enthusiastically urging people to go in to caucus for the Texas Two Step, pointing at the polling site and waving his arm. He was a FANTASTIC campaigner for Hillary! Well, anyway…
GOSUEF4HIL 09.18.09 at 3:30 pm
Another source- repeating Ahmedinejad’s rant- http://www.examiner.com/x-6572-NY-Obama-Administration-Examiner~y2009m9d18-In-speech-Ahmedinejad-calls-Holocaust-a-lie-and–a-
Ahmedinejad is a fucking moron. Any Jew who voted for Obama needs their head examined.
Krugman is a fucking moron.
move.on is a fucking moron.
ACORN is a fucking moron.
Hopefully I have illustrated that I am not too fucking stupid to read this blog!
Love the salty language today Murphy- my kind of way to start off the week-end!
prplvette85 09.18.09 at 3:30 pm
Kat,
Yes! I remember very clearly. I wish I could have saved all my posts from back on her blog. I have some of them on a hard drive. What a freakin nightmare we have all been through, and now the rest of the country is just getting a small taste of what we tried to warn them of.
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wow HP, I was just thinking the same thing after I read that! Sounds just like her… great minds think alike!
honora 09.18.09 at 3:53 pm
You know I really don’t know who the WH thinks they are kidding.
They send Michelle out to lecture “female advocacy leaders” on the importance of supporting Obama’s plan because healthcare is a ‘women’s issue”. This is the same Obama that made clear in his famous healthcare speech that he would make sure that women’s reproductive health would not be covered by government policies. WTF He really expects ‘feminists’ to rally around once again and carry our “feminist president” through another minefield. It is not enough that feeble-minded women voted him in, now women are expected to do the heavy lifting to support a bill that leaves American women woefully unprotected. http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/09/18/politics/politicalhotsheet/entry5320221.shtml?tag=cbsContent;cbsCarousel
Is is too early to start drinking?
kat in your hat 09.18.09 at 3:56 pm
Added some more stories to the woman lynching forum last night: http://pumapac.org/forums/woman-lynching/#comment-374709
Dances posted this EXCELLENT interactive NYC homicide map, all the murders from 2003-2009: http://projects.nytimes.com/crime/homicides/map
Click on “sex of perpetrators” on the left sidebar.
GOSUEF4HIL 09.18.09 at 3:56 pm
honora- it’s 5′o’clock somewhere…
GOSUEF4HIL 09.18.09 at 4:15 pm
another liberal blog not happy w/ lack of POTUS leadership:
http://mydd.com/story/2009/9/17/22357/1522
HP Boston 09.18.09 at 4:15 pm
four fifteen is close enough…………..
LJSNAustin 09.18.09 at 4:19 pm
murphy, absolutely terrific SMOKIN’ post. My computer monitor is on fi-yah! If you ever decide to run for public office, you must know I will do everything in my power to get you in, and I feel pretty confident I’m not the only one who feels this way. Sometimes the writing flows from your spirit like a river, and today is one of those days. I am proud to make a PUMAPAC donation right this very moment.
LJSNAustin 09.18.09 at 4:32 pm
OK, murphy, the hillbuzz post has me typing through my tears.
kat in your hat 09.18.09 at 4:55 pm
Fox News Ad Draws Protests
A provocative full-page newspaper ad from Fox News drew heated reactions from its rivals today and one demand that The Washington Post apologize for running it.
Over photos of protesters gathering for an “anti-tax” rally in Washington last Saturday, the ad asked: “How Did ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC and CNN Miss This Story?”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/09/18/AR2009091801102_pf.html
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Fox News Ad looks like this:
http://www.mije.org/richardprince/fox-ad-claims-competitors-didnt-cover-march
(Story is also covered at Huff n Puff.)
kat in your hat 09.18.09 at 4:57 pm
ny news:
Gov. Paterson freezes NY state contracts with ACORN http://bit.ly/3GREve
Official: [NYC] Terror Plot Suspect Admits al Qaeda Ties, May Plead Guilty: http://bit.ly/12yzvM
BigCatLover 09.18.09 at 5:07 pm
Hillary Clinton is currently on c-span on a UN General Assembly Preview Brookings Institute held today and Andrea Mitchell is asking her a stupid question about how can she accomplish someting Condoleeza Rice could not, which she is politely answering.
DancesWithPumas 09.18.09 at 5:51 pm
Prplvette
Hope your writing your chapter for one of Murphy’s books.
“IF YOU ARE HAVING PROBLEMS [voting, getting into] AT POLLING SITES–TELL US.” Or “IF YOU HAVE ANY INFORMATION…” …it was maddening. ” KIYH
heh…
prplvette85 09.18.09 at 6:00 pm
Gag me with a spoon, what is on my local news? in this order
1. Marc Anthony and JLo had a party in Wahington and Nancy Pelosi was there it was with Congress to smooze all the hispanics into drinking more koolaid.
2. Bo, the dog ..they named his groomer and talked about how on his leash is I heart Obama.
3. How Michelle is have town halls talking to women about healthcare reform because women are usually the ones that take care of making the appointments and choosing the doctors.
Oh, the first story was they did finally capture an escaped fugitive who carjacked a women’s car this morning, robbed a bank, then they finally caught him. The US MARSHALLS are taking custody of them, and stated that when we transport a fugitive they do not get away.
theamericanway 09.18.09 at 6:00 pm
Thank you Murphy for having unending insight, patience, literary skills, hope to carry on while you carry many of us with you. And launch other budding blogging genuii.
Because of you, I have a place to put this article, who shows how incredibly out of touch the WH is these days.
Let’s say you’re preparing dinner and you realize with dismay that you don’t have any certified organic Tuscan kale. What to do? Here’s how Michelle Obama handled this very predicament Thursday afternoon: The Secret Service and the D.C. police brought in three dozen vehicles and shut down H Street, Vermont Avenue, two lanes of I Street and an entrance to the McPherson Square Metro station. They swept the area, in front of the Department of Veterans Affairs, with bomb-sniffing dogs and installed magnetometers in the middle of the street, put up barricades to keep pedestrians out, and took positions with binoculars atop trucks. Though the produce stand was only a block or so from the White House, the first lady hopped into her armored limousine and pulled into the market amid the wail of sirens….
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/09/17/AR2009091703679_pf.html
prplvette85 09.18.09 at 6:07 pm
theamericanway 09.18.09 at 6:00 pm
The Secret Service and the D.C. police brought in three dozen vehicles and shut down H Street, Vermont Avenue, two lanes of I Street and an entrance to the McPherson Square Metro station. They swept the area, in front of the Department of Veterans Affairs, with bomb-sniffing dogs and installed magnetometers in the middle of the street, put up barricades to keep pedestrians out, and took positions with binoculars atop trucks. Though the produce stand was only a block or so from the White House, the first lady hopped into her armored limousine and pulled into the market amid the wail of sirens….
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so how much did this cost us… the taxpayers?
probably a years worth groceries for some of us.
fucktards.
Susie1945 09.18.09 at 6:16 pm
Can we impeach this asshole and his stupid wife yet????
prplvette85 09.18.09 at 6:39 pm
Susie1945,
For real, they need to fucking gooooo….
Mo was just giving a speech, talking about how scared she was when her dtr had to go to the hospital, and was wondering what she would have done if she did not have insurance. then she wiped her snotty nose right in her hand…. great role model there ….
Let me tell you a thing or two lady,
I raised two kids, no insurance…the last fucking thing I was worried about was the insurance… just take care of the kid and I will worry about that later… money and insurance is the last thing on your mind if your kid is that ill, that you take them to the ER.
simofish 09.18.09 at 6:44 pm
Kat in MY hat — #45
Posted the link on facebook — then added my own comment
Lets see…. reasons they missed it
A) MSM was having a kool-aid party while this was happening
B) They were in a group meeting discussing what a “tingle in the leg” feels like
C) Trying to figure out who to call a racists this week
D) All the above
prplvette85 09.18.09 at 6:49 pm
DancesWithPumas 09.18.09 at 5:51 pm
Prplvette
Hope your writing your chapter for one of Murphy’s books.
“IF YOU ARE HAVING PROBLEMS [voting, getting into] AT POLLING SITES–TELL US.” Or “IF YOU HAVE ANY INFORMATION…” …it was maddening. ” KIYH
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Oh do I have a chapter… oy vey!
kat in your hat 09.18.09 at 6:51 pm
Students in Belleville school bus attack are charged
BELLEVILLE — Two Belleville West High School students were charged under the juvenile code today with felony counts of aggravated battery stemming from the violent beating of a 17-year-old student on a school bus earlier this week.
http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/illinoisnews/story/1586F1C3B8DACF3786257635006BC3A8?OpenDocument
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Malaysian court orders Muslim lovers caned for sex
KUALA LUMPUR, Malaysia — An Islamic court has ordered an unmarried couple to be caned for trying to have sex in a car in the latest of a series of harsh punishments for Muslims in Malaysia, a lawyer said Friday.
Though Malaysia has long been upheld as an example of a moderate Muslim-majority country, recent verdicts sentencing Muslims to whipping for drinking alcohol have made headlines. Two months ago, an Islamic judge triggered a national debate when he ordered a woman to be caned for drinking beer.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hWax98z7nw043UEjGD0tyUUk_NhwD9APGMM01
prplvette85 09.18.09 at 6:59 pm
Hey, does anyone know if we can get a class action suit against o’fraud, congress et al…. for pain and suffering? The worry of our economy our kids and grandkids future, our future .. the stress it is causing us? Maybe we can sue for post traumatic stress syndrome from a fraudulent election?….
just sayin
scarlet 09.18.09 at 6:59 pm
87% of Employers to Reduce Benefits if Health Care Reform Increases Costs
Among the full survey group, employers expect they would respond to a pay-or-play mandate in the following ways:
37% of employers would provide company-sponsored health coverage that substantially exceeds the standard.
29% of employers would discontinue company-sponsored health coverage and pay the assessment if the per-employee costs of payments to the federal government were substantially lower than their current costs.
26% of employers would provide company-sponsored health coverage at the level of the minimum standard required.
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/terry-trippany/2009/09/17/87-employers-reduce-benefits-if-health-care-reform-increases-costs
scarlet 09.18.09 at 7:03 pm
prplvette85 09.18.09 at 6:00 pm
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The loser escaped convict robbed the same bank he has been in jail for awaiting a trial. Some of his nuttiness happened in my county.
scarlet 09.18.09 at 7:08 pm
ACORN to Review Incidents
White House Joins Criticism Over Hidden-Camera Videos
Bertha Lewis, ACORN’S chief executive, will have a meeting of an advisory council.
The Council includes many prominent Democrats, including the man who helped President Obama Transition Team, John Podesta, President and CEO of the Center for American Progress; former Maryland Lt. Gov. Kathleen Kennedy Townsend; Andrew Stern, International President of the Service Employees International Union; and former Housing and Urban Development Secretary Henry Cisneros.
“I believe an organization that’s performing a public function should be transparent about how it uses government funds,” Cisneros said, noting that he still supports the group.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/09/16/AR2009091602341.html?hpid=topnews
Building Flawed American Dreams
SAN ANTONIO — A grandson of Mexican immigrants and a former mayor of this town, Henry G. Cisneros has spent years trying to make the dream of homeownership come true for low-income families.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/19/business/19cisneros.html?_r=2&pagewanted=1&adxnnlx=1253228563-M6bA1raQuHKET8Kk9ZlgQw
And, he made a lot of money from this dream come true.
prplvette85 09.18.09 at 7:09 pm
Scarlet,
You must only be about 2 hours or so from me then. We will have to meet up! I had to go to Aurora Il for Roxie the other day that was about 1 1/2 hours away… are you in that direction? I have a navigator on my I phone now so I can find my way…lol
scarlet 09.18.09 at 7:37 pm
Ex-SEIU Boss Sentenced to 25 Years for Child Molestation, Porn
SACRAMENTO, CA – A former union official and California Department of Insurance employee was sentenced Tuesday to 25 years in prison after entering no contest pleas to charges of child molestation, possession of child pornography, and manufacturing child pornography.
Jaime Enrique Feliciano, who served as a chapter president of Service Employees International Union Local 1000, which represents thousands of Sacramento-area state workers, had previous convictions for child molestation and failure to register as a sex offender.
In September 2008, investigators with the Sacramento County Sheriff’s Department initiated an investigation into Feliciano following a tip. Deputy District Attorney Lani Biafore said detectives recovered thousands of images of child pornography from Feliciano’s computers, as well as images of him molesting a young girl.
Biafore said Feliciano persuaded the girl and her mother to not report the crimes.
Sacramento County sheriff’s investigators later identified the victim, who told authorities that Feliciano had molested her on numerous occasions.
http://www.news10.net/news/story.aspx?storyid=66962&catid=2
scarlet 09.18.09 at 7:40 pm
prplvette85 09.18.09 at 7:09 pm
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I am in Oak Brook. That is probably closer to you than Aurora. I’m about 20 miles west of Chicago downtown.
prplvette85 09.18.09 at 7:55 pm
I checked the navigator, you are only 43 miles from me woot! Maybe we can meet sometime for lunch.
DancesWithPumas 09.18.09 at 8:39 pm
I love happy endings.
goofsmom 09.18.09 at 8:55 pm
Me too…
LJSNAustin 09.18.09 at 9:10 pm
Where is FLBarbara? I could sure use a pitcher of margaritas right now!!
simofish 09.18.09 at 9:22 pm
LJSN – I am thinking skip all the other stuff and just drinking my Tequila out of the bottle.
Here – have a swig – actually make it a gulp !
Casper Cat 09.18.09 at 9:24 pm
Hey Pumas…. Just got in….. catching up on the blog…. Been Very Busy with Life Stuff!!!!!! UGH!!!! So, until Our FlBarbara comes…. Well, enjoy a fun song on me….. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnvZ-pmAeLw Time to get moving……………
LJSNAustin 09.18.09 at 9:28 pm
Yep, Patron Silver…got a bottle of it right here! I’m swiggin’ with you, simo!
Casper Cat 09.18.09 at 9:31 pm
DWP… IF you are here…. Well, this one is for YOU!!!
Hope you enjoy!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKoEhnjDWZs&feature=PlayList&p=6D42F098850493B4&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=14 
invalidresponse 09.18.09 at 9:45 pm
#71
One of my very favorites!!
Casper Cat 09.18.09 at 9:48 pm
Hey, invalidresponse….
glad you liked it…. Oh, I think Murphy should have a upside down cake for her wonderful post today! What do you think? 
invalidresponse 09.18.09 at 9:52 pm
Casper Cat 09.18.09 at 9:55 pm
TT if you are around take a look…. I am sure she is a PUMA…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSG4Cml7HXs I think it reminds me of Pumas who are sooooooooooooooooooooo disgusted with the Dem Party……….. UGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So, happy I am a free Uncommitted Party…… 
Casper Cat 09.18.09 at 9:59 pm
invalidresponse……….I LOVE IT!!!!!!!!!!! You are too funny and the bomb…..
Well, this song came to my mind…. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GtyMeEcPPE&feature=PlayList&p=61B3375498DD60B6&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=61 Thanks! 
DancesWithPumas 09.18.09 at 10:00 pm
you are the reason…
Casper Cat 09.18.09 at 10:02 pm
OH, sorry invalidresponse…. this too….. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_3v-_p3ESo
Casper Cat 09.18.09 at 10:06 pm
DWP…. Wonderful to see you tonight…..
OH, and 
Hope you are doing well and living and loving life…. 
Hope to see you soon….. Remember, you are always welcome….. 
Oh, did I mention that you are only 1hour and 30 minutes from me…. 
Anytime, you are most welcome…. 
DancesWithPumas 09.18.09 at 10:08 pm
CC
After tomorrow Im planning on taking a whole buncha road trips.
Be forewarned.
Casper Cat 09.18.09 at 10:12 pm
Oh YA!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DWP……….. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSICoacOT60 YEEEEEEEEEEEEE HAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!
DancesWithPumas 09.18.09 at 10:18 pm
#81
Truer words…
NewOrleansPuma 09.18.09 at 10:19 pm
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidential/House-votes-to-cut-off-ACORN-funding-59647917.html
This is a link to the list of 75 House of Representative members who VOTED AGAINST CUTTING OFF FUNDS FOR ACORN..
Pleas.e note ..Slime Barney Frank conventiently did not vote …
AND ..your MA guy Lynch is on the list…
All of these people who must run in 2010 should be voted out of office…simply on this vote!
Casper Cat 09.18.09 at 10:20 pm
Just thinking about this song…. thought I would share…. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0-um0pHTAg
DancesWithPumas 09.18.09 at 10:23 pm
Caspie
Way cool!! I bookmarked it… would love to learn to learn that song in Spanish!!
DancesWithPumas 09.18.09 at 10:24 pm
YouTube Berlitz! Berlitz in Belize!
Casper Cat 09.18.09 at 10:29 pm
Just to laugh…. I just love her….. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrjWtPhO54s hope you enjoy…. Thanks DWP!!!
DancesWithPumas 09.18.09 at 10:37 pm
Vitameatavegamin
LOL! lolol
Casper Cat 09.18.09 at 10:44 pm
DWP…. One just cannot replace unique and extremely talented women like Lucy…… She is really one of a kind…..
So, glad you enjoyed it!!! 
I grew up on Lucy and the repeats over and over again…. Even today, when I need to decompress…. I check the channels and turn on Lucy…. 
Just like Carol Burnette…. Just wonderful entertainment! 
Just great talent and a good laugh!
Casper Cat 09.18.09 at 10:53 pm
For you Star Trek lovers and Carol Burnett….. Well, I have never seen this before…..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnvzAyZIqRc&feature=related 
very funny!
DancesWithPumas 09.18.09 at 10:56 pm
I’m thinking we need a Casper Cat Cheer Up page, where we can keep a library of her selected Youtubes. What say you?
:0 
invalidresponse 09.18.09 at 11:01 pm
I second that!!
BillieJo 09.18.09 at 11:05 pm
NewOrleansPuma 09.18.09 at 10:19 pm
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidential/House-votes-to-cut-off-ACORN-funding-59647917.html
This is a link to the list of 75 House of Representative members who VOTED AGAINST CUTTING OFF FUNDS FOR ACORN..
Pleas.e note ..Slime Barney Frank conventiently did not vote …
AND ..your MA guy Lynch is on the list…
All of these people who must run in 2010 should be voted out of office…simply on this vote!
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I agree NOP, I am going to add them to the California list of women to vote for, and ACORN supporters I won’t vote for.
Here are the people from Calif that voted for ACORN, male and female:
Xavier Becerra, D-Calif
Bob Filner, D-Calif.
Mike Honda, D-Calif.
Barbara Lee, D-Calif.
Lucille Roybal-Allard, D-Calif.
Linda Sánchez, D-Calif.
Brad Sherman, D-Calif.
Pete Stark, D-Calif.
Maxine Waters, D-Calif.
Diane Watson, D-Calif.
Henry Waxman, D-Calif.
Lynn Woolsey, D-Calif.
They are done in my book.
Casper Cat 09.18.09 at 11:06 pm
DWP did you see the last minute of the youtube #90…. Really, good… About how women handle everything differently…
Oh, and that would be great to have a ‘UP Page’ and I would gladly help to keep that up and running…… 
I know all of our wonderful Pumas who post such important information and those who are so dedicated to workshop projects are really one of a kind… And, I am soooooooooo grateful for all of them…. I just hope once in a while I can put a smile on one of our pumas face. 
And, DWP you know me…. I just know how healthy it is to laugh now and then…. 
I do believe it is the best cure to a healthy body and mind…. IMO…. 
Thanks…..
DancesWithPumas 09.18.09 at 11:07 pm
Casper Cat 09.18.09 at 10:53 pm
For you Star Trek lovers and Carol Burnett….. Well, I have never seen this before….. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnvzAyZIqRc&feature=related very funny!
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LOVE IT!!!
Perfect balance!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnvzAyZIqRc&feature=related
DancesWithPumas 09.18.09 at 11:08 pm
Uh oh… I’m a Barbara Lee fan. Contributed to her last campaign. Couldn’t vote for her though… not in my district.
DancesWithPumas 09.18.09 at 11:11 pm
CC
Maybe in the Action – Resource Center…
Then instead of slitting their wrists, we could just refer Pumas to your page… and they can’t comment until they’ve clicked at least three links.
Have to ask Murphy.
BillieJo 09.18.09 at 11:11 pm
Dances, sorry but I forgot the password to the Women 2010 vote private blog section, could you please email it to me and I will write it down.
Thanks.
DancesWithPumas 09.18.09 at 11:13 pm
BillieJo
Guess what? It
s Sep 18, 6 days past the promised delivery of ‘the bumperstickers’ .
DancesWithPumas 09.18.09 at 11:13 pm
BillieJo
Will do.
DancesWithPumas 09.18.09 at 11:14 pm
Billie
You’ve got mail
FLBarbara 09.18.09 at 11:41 pm
Casper Cat
You always make me smile.
NOP
Thanks for the info and thanks for your beautiful comment to me the other day. Made me smile too.
WTF were these people thinking voting to give ACORN taxpayer money??
OMG talk about acting stupidly.
I wish someone went undercover to have them admit to voter fraud.
Casper Cat 09.18.09 at 11:48 pm
FLBarbara…. take a look at post #95….
Thank You! You too, put a smile on my face everytime I read what an incredible journey you are on…. I gotta tell you, if BO is impeached ( I know that is not likely) But, not re-elected in 2012…. .I will host the biggest party in my home and all Pumas are invited…. I will take care of ALL ACCOMDATIONS…. So, save that Vera Wang dress…. You just may need it! 
greenfun 09.18.09 at 11:56 pm
New DNC Obama Ad: Get “Fired Up” and “Ready To Go” About No Public Option
President Obama has been desperate to ditch the public option for weeks. Max Baucus did the job he thought he was supposed to do — memorialize the deals that the White House cut with health care industry stakeholders. He left it to the White House to sell it, and now they have to.
But every time they tried to jettison the public option through surrogates like Kathleen Sebelius or “senior White House officials” speaking anonymously to media outlets, the base went haywire and Obama’s poll numbers started tanking.
Well, now that Baucus has delivered his stenography, gotta get the base on board with the “goody bag” of benefits — which basically means whatever was left over after Rahm Emanuel got done auctioning off the rest to the medical industrial complex.
So the new DNC ad fires up the “base” by trying to rally them around hatred of teabaggers:
Because hatred of teabaggers will, I guess, mean that nobody notices that Obama makes no mention of a public option in the ad:
Read more at: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jane-hamsher/new-dnc-obama-ad-get-fire_b_291617.html
Read more at: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jane-hamsher/new-dnc-obama-ad-get-fire_b_291617.html
FLBarbara 09.19.09 at 12:03 am
When that happens for your party I will buy a new Vera after all I already wore it to the PUMA bumper awards and a woman can not be photographed in the same dress LOL
What a party that will be HUH? We will need Greta there for sure and Hillary
DancesWithPumas 09.19.09 at 12:04 am
InvernessResponse
You rang?
Uppity Woman 09.19.09 at 12:04 am
I love when you swear, Murphy.
DancesWithPumas 09.19.09 at 12:05 am
Dang,
My red sequine full length evening gown shunk in the dryer.
invalidresponse 09.19.09 at 12:07 am
#106 .. thanks…
Inverness???
DancesWithPumas 09.19.09 at 12:08 am
IR
Place in No CA that I love. I think of it almost every time I type your name.
invalidresponse 09.19.09 at 12:10 am
O I C
invalidresponse 09.19.09 at 12:11 am
I should make you type my name more often then…. yes ??
DancesWithPumas 09.19.09 at 12:11 am
lol
invalidresponse 09.19.09 at 12:13 am
here?
http://www.panoramio.com/photo/692835
FLBarbara 09.19.09 at 12:13 am
Just saw a clip of Nancy choking up over all the rhetoric that is brewing violence.
Uhmmmm calling people racist Nazi anti American racist is not rhetoric that could possibly cause violence?
Someone rewind the tapes so Nancy can have a real good cry.
invalidresponse 09.19.09 at 12:14 am
and here?
http://www.panoramio.com/photo/6353549
DancesWithPumas 09.19.09 at 12:16 am
InvalidResponse invalid response.
HERE:
http://www.panoramio.com/map/#lt=38.083422&ln=-122.837309&z=4&k=2&a=1
invalidresponse 09.19.09 at 12:17 am
teasing you those were from Scotland
DancesWithPumas 09.19.09 at 12:19 am
IR
ahem… nice save.
invalidresponse 09.19.09 at 12:23 am
nice save
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you would expect nothing else
DancesWithPumas 09.19.09 at 12:24 am
Granted.
goofsmom 09.19.09 at 12:42 am
Invalid,
Pretty pictures of Scotland…
Dances,
Of course, Inverness California is very pretty too….
goofsmom 09.19.09 at 12:43 am
NOP,
Yes, ma’am – Vote all the bums out!!
invalidresponse 09.19.09 at 12:56 am
goodnight sister pumas….
goofsmom 09.19.09 at 1:16 am
Nighty-night invalid… sleep well… : )
DancesWithPumas 09.19.09 at 1:30 am
Goodnight InvalidnessResponse
(I’m compromising here)
goofsmom 09.19.09 at 1:47 am
Dances,
LOL…
DancesWithPumas 09.19.09 at 1:53 am
6 friends every mom needs (and how to keep ‘em)
http://www.cnn.com/2009/LIVING/personal/09/18/p.six.friends.moms.need/index.html
agree? disagree?
Love the stereotyping here. Not.
and, husbands conspicuously absent in this article.
meh
DancesWithPumas 09.19.09 at 1:55 am
Goodnight Goofs
‘night Pumas
goofsmom 09.19.09 at 2:10 am
Nighty-night Dances… Sweet dreams
goofsmom 09.19.09 at 2:22 am
Dances,
#128 – Hmmm… can’t agree or disagree, no munchkins…
However, agree with the stereotypical statement. Forgive me mom’s everywhere… also very superficial. I see some basic very good principals but the way they are explained or the examples the author used made it seem very “me” oriented..
Finally, you made an excellent point… if there is a husband in play… why is he not part of the formula for the 6 friends?
Hmmmm… sadly he is lacking in the article and he should be part of the lifeline used… seems to make the article more stereotypical because he is missing.
goofsmom 09.19.09 at 2:23 am
Night PUMA’s…
kat in your hat 09.19.09 at 3:19 am
Schadenfreude!
Sooo, you know how obnoxious CNN was during primaries? Wolf was quite the ass a few times. Here’s one time:
Wolf Blitzer Calls Hillary Clinton Naive on Iraq War
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAlblsvXenQ
SOOO, Mr. Smartypantswolfypoopeenewsyscoophead was on Jeopardy yesterday.
Welllll…how did he do???
CNN’s Wolf Blitzer Jeopardy FAIL -$4600
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVC28oemocA
Bwaaahahahahahahahah!!!!
It’s okay to laugh, Jeopardy still helped his charity.
kat in your hat 09.19.09 at 3:27 am
Oh, ha! This is a clearer version of wolfyblitzycrapdoedoeduhduh: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bd2ySV7AfgM&feature=related
heeeeeeeeeee
DancesWithPumas 09.19.09 at 3:36 am
CNN’s Wolf Blitzer Jeopardy FAIL -$4600
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVC28oemocA
Bwaaahahahahahahahah!!!!
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OMG! What a moron!!
but we already knew that…
DancesWithPumas 09.19.09 at 3:40 am
I love where alex says “andy was quicker with the buzzer…” Trying to save blitzer some humiliation. pffffffffft andy would have gone done in flames too if he hadnt known the correct answers.
From The Situation Room: Blitzer is a moron.
kat in your hat 09.19.09 at 3:45 am
LOL!! I’m tellin ya, it doesn’t take much to put me in a good mood. lolol! gnight babes. xoxo muah!
kat in your hat 09.19.09 at 4:17 am
Dances, actually, it’s sort of funny to me…you know, there is this stench of MORAL SUPREMACY that is just so bizarro. lol. You feel that too? Like you are peering into another’s grandiose delusion of self-importance and greatness? It’s like eavesdropping on a strange land of law makers, those who have somehow mandated themselves to be the omnipotent Observers and Judges of all the blogosphere and beyond. Weird. Lots of transformative…*falling in line* over there. New “obot” *word* mandate—GAVEL-SLAM. (lol)
It’s like, just give up already—you are basic democrats like.everyone.else. Quit the faux angst and just accept that you are over the injustices of the primaries and all of it, and just accept THAT, and move on into your ordinary non-radical/ uninteresting/ average, regular American democratic life—be like everyone else…just like those who have NO idea what happened in 2008. Just get with it already. It *is* hard to face that…the ethics of it. Their issue, not ours. *shrug* I wish ‘em luck with all that self-actualization stuff though.
kat in your hat 09.19.09 at 4:19 am
DANCES! lmaooo
okay get rid of me too! LOOLOL
DancesWithPumas 09.19.09 at 5:32 am
LOL
Whatever are you talking about?
Your take is so eloquent… Insightful…
and absolutely agree absoluterily.
I couldn’t bear to get rid of it.
I’m also sorry… Timing is almost everything.
Seriously, I thought you had gone to bed already.
Sleep well, hon. GAVEL ::: SLAM:::
DancesWithPumas 09.19.09 at 5:48 am
I will say I think they use any opportunity to slam pumas though. Maybe they’re trying to convince obots and Obama voters that they reeeeeeaally are on their side as way for the mullahs over there to gain some traction? You know like, pay no attention to our track record … We really won’t throw you under any busses after we’ve taken you for all you’re worth.
I love the part where they equate the sexist “undercurrent” ( undercurrent my off white ass! Morons.) at kos, and his ilk to racist undercurrents at puma sites. Another way to gain favor (read: traffic) with teh boiz. “See? We call Pumas racist too. Do you love us now?”
They need to take lessons from Cinie… Then again, is integrity teachable at this late date in life?
I don’t know.
DancesWithPumas 09.19.09 at 6:00 am
Karma is a bear… and it will always catch up with you. Always.
prplvette85 09.19.09 at 10:06 am
Then again, is integrity teachable at this late date in life?
I don’t know.
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isn’t the opposite of integrity …. hypocrisy?
Swannie 09.19.09 at 10:08 am
If its SATURDAY it is GODDESS RADIO people !! 10 AM – 1 PM EST
http://audio.cygnusradio.com:8000/cyg1_hi.m3u because everywoman is a GODDESS and you owe it to yourself ( and yuor ears ) to get outside the everyday ..
invalidresponse 09.19.09 at 10:14 am
CNN’s Wolf Blitzer Jeopardy FAIL -$4600
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVC28oemocA
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yet another example of how well, and smart you can appear while reading a teleprompter (when he is at CNN), and how you truly ARE with out a teleprompter (while answering simple questions on a game show). Pretty big difference.
Swannie 09.19.09 at 10:18 am
Prplevette you just nailed it !!! HYPOCRISY
Democrats DEFENDING ACORN as NOT SO BAD is like saying the guy who kept that girl captive in his backyard for 18 years and fathered two children by her is not so bad because he was a volunteer fireman in his community or some such nonsense…
those Acorn workers did not even blink about underage girls being sex slaves… WHO KNOWS how many they have already enabled , at the very least we need a thorough investigation and charges brought where necessary , not to mention no more taxpayer funding .
HYPOCRISY Democrats pretending they did not send all those lawyers and investigators to Alaska to take Sarah Palin down by digging up any kind of bullcrap on her and inflating and conflating it to distort her image and message… but defending Acorn by saying the investigators have right wing affiliations .. yet another tactic avoid the truth by accusing the investigators.. NANCY PELOSI choking up about violence that might happen after SHE called people nazis and astroturfers .. the HYPOCRISY goes on and on ..
prplvette85 09.19.09 at 10:32 am
Swannie,
O’fraud is going on EVERY Sunday morning show tomorrow EXCEPT Fox News. They turned Fox down. Fox will be interviewing the CEO of ACORN tomorrow morning. They are asking for viewer questions. I sure do hope they bring up the connection of o’fraud, and the busing in of voters from other states during the election, not just the money aspect of acorn. I hope they put the link between o’fraud and acorn’s strong ties, past and present. I emailed them, several times
http://www.foxnews.com/fns/index.html
Swannie 09.19.09 at 10:53 am
Prplvettes
I have never seen a president pander so blatantly or the so called media for that matter .. so unashamedly and unabashedly partisan and JUST for a quick reference here is a convenient list of FALLACIOUS ARGUMENTS bo, for all his so called intelligence ALWAYS USES them. His most frequent and favorite is the Straw Man
http://www.don-lindsay-archive.org/skeptic/arguments.html
HP Boston 09.19.09 at 10:56 am
DancesWithPumas 09.19.09 at 1:53 am
6 friends every mom needs (and how to keep ‘em)
http://www.cnn.com/2009/LIVING/personal/09/18/p.six.friends.moms.need/index.html
agree? disagree?
Love the stereotyping here. Not.
and, husbands conspicuously absent in this article.
meh
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OY VEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HP Boston 09.19.09 at 11:04 am
I have not now nor have I ever been a member of the
DEMOCRATIC HYPOCRISY PARTY!!!!
HP Boston 09.19.09 at 11:09 am
OY VEY!!! SUE SUE SUE I want a job but I hate the dress code!! I am going to Sue…That is what my religion does allow, and it is the American way. I was going to be a stripper but they wanted me to take off my head scarf, NOW THIS!!
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Girl: Abercrombie ‘won’t hire’ because of scarf
Muslim teen says she was unfairly denied job at Oklahoma mall
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32913991/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/?GT1=43001
Swannie 09.19.09 at 11:16 am
Girl: Abercrombie ‘won’t hire’ because of scarf
Muslim teen says she was unfairly denied job at Oklahoma mall
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32913991/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/?GT1=43001
This is how Muslims insinuate their belief systems into our laws … this is exactly what they have done in the UK where they are now pushing for SHARIA LAW in some areas
.. this is not religious discrimination , it is religious intimidation..
Swannie 09.19.09 at 11:20 am
HEy I know religions that incorporate as part of their beleif systems that you can be naked ….lets do that at work too ?? Any thing less is discrimination is it not?
sistermoon3 09.19.09 at 11:23 am
this is what happens when a president of the united states states
that we are NOT a christian nation
http://townhall.com/columnists/RobertKnight/2009/09/19/islam_on_the_march_in_dc?page=full
prplvette85 09.19.09 at 11:23 am
I wanna wear my PJ’s to work, I’m gonna sue
prplvette85 09.19.09 at 11:24 am
oh…I don’t have a job
scarlet 09.19.09 at 11:27 am
Michael Capuano pounces on rivals
Says he ‘closely mirrors’ Ted Kennedy
With U.S. Rep. Barney Frank as his attack dog sidekick, U.S. Rep. Michael Capuano came out swinging at his opponents in the race for the late U.S. Sen. Edward M. Kennedy’s vacant seat, accusing Attorney General Martha Coakley of being timid and blasting businessman Stephen Pagliuca for supporting Republicans.
Capuano addressed his vote to support funding for ACORN, a controversial community organization that allegedly tried to doctor tax documents for a couple posing as a pimp and a hooker.
“What happened was horrendous and they should face a serious and deep investigation. But that doesn’t necessarily on its face indict the entire organization,” Capuano said.
http://c13.zedo.com//ads2/f/548899/1/8/0/305001986/305001986/0/305/696/zz-V1-pop1251841442633.html?a=;l=;p
scarlet 09.19.09 at 11:28 am
Obama Criticism Flow Chart [How to tell if criticism is racially motivated]
http://www.missourah.com/2009/09/15/obama-criticism-flow-chart/
Swannie 09.19.09 at 11:40 am
I JUST HAVE TO add this hilarious quote from soneone who attended 9/12 and whose blog i have just added to my faves
“I heard there was a team from ACORN heckling the crowd, but didn’t see them. I would have asked them if I could buy a house to start a “puppy mill”
http://bloghopenchangery.wordpress.com/2009/09/14/my-great-big-fat-9-12-american-family-reunion-i-was-at-capitol-hill-woodstock-09/
Ps I always wanted to work in my pajamas too or is that why they dont hire nuns IN HABITS WORK AT THE PERFUME COUNTERS IN DEPT STORES ..
prplvette85 09.19.09 at 11:41 am
Swannie 09.19.09 at 10:53 am
Prplvettes
I have never seen a president pander so blatantly or the so called media for that matter .. so unashamedly and unabashedly partisan and JUST for a quick reference here is a convenient list of FALLACIOUS ARGUMENTS bo, for all his so called intelligence ALWAYS USES them. His most frequent and favorite is the Straw Man
http://www.don-lindsay-archive.org/skeptic/arguments.html
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great link! Thanks
sistermoon3 09.19.09 at 11:43 am
http://goodsensepolitics.blogspot.com/2009/09/compare-garbage-after-tea-party-vs.html
which side do the represent the “green party” clean enviornment?
DancesWithPumas 09.19.09 at 11:47 am
Since when is the US a Christian nation?
If the arguement is Christians are a majority in this country, Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world, so that argument is going to work against you.
Last I heard is the founding men wanted Protestantism tone the official relgion of the US, but after much lobbying, that idea was shot down with the compromise of leaving it up to individual states. Maryland declared itself Catholic, Pennsylvania Quaker, etc.
persephone 09.19.09 at 11:51 am
Capuano was mayor of my city
he is a crony thug
oy vey indeed Murphy yikes!
I un joined moveon when the Boston rallies became dominated by pro Palestine groups
miss my Saturday goddess radio!
*Clicks ruby sliipers*
…no place like home…
DancesWithPumas 09.19.09 at 11:52 am
Read Cinie’s piece on ACORN and the connections behind the prot-pimp
Peesonally, I don’t care so much about their pol affiliations, I’m just glad acorn is going to be investigated, with the possibility of digging into all of their primary activities as they relate to that other ‘community organizer’.
scarlet 09.19.09 at 12:08 pm
San Diego ACORN worker fired following sting
AP
ACORN officials in San Diego have fired an employee caught on video providing advice about human smuggling to a couple posing as a pimp and a prostitute.
David Lagstein, the group’s head organizer in San Diego, initially said Thursday that he believed Juan Carlos Vera did his best to deal with a challenging situation and would not be disciplined.
But three hours later, Lagstein reversed that decision.
He said he reevaluated the videos posted online in which Vera was secretly filmed answering questions about smuggling people into the U.S. through Tijuana. Lagstein said after further discussion with supervisors and state ACORN officials he decided Vera’s conduct was “unacceptable.”
Earlier Thursday the House followed the Senate’s lead in denying all federal funding for the scandal-tainted community organizing group.
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/san_diego_acorn_worker_fired_following_XuE1n2XNkt7HRKvM0gemkN
Swannie 09.19.09 at 12:08 pm
Dances .. I read the piece on Acorn, and I could not disagree more .. saying they are “not so bad” ?? as compared to what?? They may be partly responsible we do not have HILLARY in the OVAL Office, instead of the incompetent asshat. Voter fraud is “not so bad” ??? when we could have had HILLARY ??? it does not get much worse than that except for maybe child sex slavery … ye think??
Rancho 09.19.09 at 12:08 pm
Hello, all . . .I’m still alive, but treading water with work/back/family issues. I miss you all. I try to read Murphy’s wonderful daily posts to stay on top of stuff, but that’s as far as I get. I don’t believe I’ve missed any prowls.
I HAVE AN EASY, QUICK PROWL WHERE YOU CAN VOTE TO INDUCT ALICE PAUL to the NEW JERSEY HALL of FAME, AND OTHER WOMEN TOO! IT TOOK ME LESS THAN A MINUTE!
I received the following email and I was told I could vote, even if I lived in California!
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CAST A VOTE FOR ALICE PAUL ON THE NEW JERSEY HALL OF FAME WEBSITE http://www.njhalloffame.org/! The New Jersey Hall of Fame today announced its 2010 nominees, including our girl, Alice Stokes Paul. The public can vote at NJHallofFame.org from the list of 30 nominees rolled out today for the 3rd edition of the New Jersey Hall of Fame. The choices — 17 of whom are being nominated posthumously — emerged today from a pool of 200 and are coupled in groups of six under such categories as “historical,” “sports,” and “arts and entertainment.” The New Jersey Hall of Fame, a non-profit set up by law in 2005, is intended to hold up role models and inspire schoolchildren and enlists panels of experts to weigh in on the nominees, who face a vote on NJHallof Fame.org through Nov. 20. The winners are to be announced later this fall. So, cast your vote now and let’s make sure that Alice Paul gets her name in the 2010 New Jersey Hall of Fame. Let us know when you cast your vote!!
http://www.njhalloffame.org.
Rhonda DiMascio, President
Alice Paul Institute
http://www.alicepaul.org
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What do you all think? The Congressional Medal for Alice Paul is still stuck in the House because of Health Care . . . ”
How ’bout finding another way RIGHT NOW to bring Alice Paul recognition.
Murphy (AND DANCES). . .it’s real easy, and LOTS of other women were on the lists for other things too! What do you think?
sistermoon3 09.19.09 at 12:25 pm
DancesWithPumas 09.19.09 at 11:52 am
Read Cinie’s piece on ACORN and the connections behind the prot-pimp
Peesonally, I don’t care so much about their pol affiliations, I’m just glad acorn is going to be investigated, with the possibility of digging into all of their primary activities as they relate to that other ‘community organizer’.
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ive read cinie’s piece, and i have posted my feelings there.
Cinie is a diehard democrat, period, she hates anyone who smells
or even comes close to being, seeming or behaving as one. She was a strong puma and wanted hillary, now to me, it just seems she is stuck on black and white and pure hate for repubs, i really dont care who people hate, but just to ignore something in your face by pointing to the little pimp boy and girl reminds me of how obama handles things, period. Point that finger and you will appear to be great by showing the dark side of the other side, hell, it’s hard as hell to find a side these days, cause i aint supporting much of anything it seems these days.
DancesWithPumas 09.19.09 at 12:34 pm
I appreciated Cinie’s research on the back story of teh political affiliations / associations of the journalist and filmmaker.
I won’t discount the expose film base on those affiliations though. If my my home is on fire, I don’t necessarily care who called the fire dept.
As far as “Cinie is a diehard democrat, period,”, who do you think started PUMA?
I’m a diehard Democrat as well, not in terms of the party in its current manifestation, but in terms of the principles I believed it represented. I still hold those principles, no matter what kind of freaks are at the top… in the same way that I hold to Puma goals (as stated in the Mission Statement) no matter how many republicans / rightwing nuts call themselves Pumas. Democrats in the party, nor republican Pumas (mutually exclusive terms) define me.
sistermoon3 09.19.09 at 12:42 pm
and guess what dances, acorn played a huge roll in making damned sure hillary was not the choice…so, it doesnt really matter what kind of nuts people are rightwing nuts or acorn nuts does it now
if it walks like a nut and looks like a nut it must be a nut, and baby we have all got nuts.
DancesWithPumas 09.19.09 at 12:43 pm
PS I also appreciate Cinie’s take on b/w.
I don’t necessarily agree with all of her posts, or various statements/conclusions therein, but I trust her (as much as anyone can trust someone via this medium) in terms of personal integrity and intention.
If nothing else it broadens my perspective and presents other points to consider.
DancesWithPumas 09.19.09 at 12:45 pm
Do not call me “baby”.
sistermoon3 09.19.09 at 12:52 pm
dances, lolololol, i did not call you baby LOLOLOLOL
invalidresponse 09.19.09 at 12:52 pm
voice from afar yells out, then disappears
“contradiction in terms….period”
scarlet 09.19.09 at 12:56 pm
SODA THE NEW TOBACCO
Calling soda the new tobacco, San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsom will introduce legislation this fall that would charge a fee to retailers that sell sugary beverages.
Newsom would need voter approval to tax individual cans of soda and sugary juice, but only needs approval from the Board of Supervisors to levy a fee on retailers. His legislation would charge grocery stores like Safeway and big-box stores, but would not affect restaurants that serve sodas.
Newsom said he was particularly motivated to move forward with the legislation by Thursday’s release of a UCLA study showing a link between soda and obesity in California. Researchers found that adults who drink at least one soft drink a day are 27 percent more likely to be obese than those who don’t – and that soda consumption is fueling the state’s $41 billion annual obesity problem.
In recent years, city officials have banned the sale of cigarettes in pharmacies, added a fee to packs of cigarettes, required chain restaurants to display calories and fat content on menus, and created a program to recognize restaurants that don’t serve trans fats.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/09/17/MNF619OSF4.DTL
HP Boston 09.19.09 at 1:10 pm
Mmmm will they ever just ban cigarettes as the poison it is, a death stick packed with KNOWN cancer causing carnogegens.
If we sold it in a beverage who would drink it?
Tax it? Ban it? Allow you to get fat get cancer but collect taxes till the day ya die!!! What a racket!
Hey don’t forget to buckle up!
goofsmom 09.19.09 at 1:25 pm
((((PUMAs))))
Howdy all…
(((Rancho)))
Was going to email you today if I didn’t see ya on the blog… Missing you… Have you tried the Thermacare wraps for your back… there great because they don’t have a scent and you can wear them for 8 hours… work great, portable heating pad in a pack.
Voted for Alice Paul in the New Jersy Hall of Fame.. Thanks for the link…
#167 – Reposting snip….
CAST A VOTE FOR ALICE PAUL ON THE NEW JERSEY HALL OF FAME WEBSITE http://www.njhalloffame.org/! The New Jersey Hall of Fame today announced its 2010 nominees, including our girl, Alice Stokes Paul. The public can vote at NJHallofFame.org from the list of 30 nominees rolled out today for the 3rd edition of the New Jersey Hall of Fame.
goofsmom 09.19.09 at 1:29 pm
Sheesh… there great… should read… they’re great…
Rancho 09.19.09 at 1:41 pm
Hi Goofs! It’s good to “SEE” you!
I’ve been wondering about Casper, and what’s up in Riverside. I bet she’s been overwhelmed, too! It would be nice to get together soon.
I’m in and out today. My mother’s in the hospital, so leaving soon.
Yes! I did use the wraps and I’m STILL using them. They’re great, but SOMEHOW I seem to continually aggrevate my problem. Some days I can’t get out of bed!
Thank you so much for reposting #167. . . It’s so EASY, and ANOTHER way to bring to light what one women long ago did for us ALL!
goofsmom 09.19.09 at 1:47 pm
Well, here it is, just as I thought. Remember earlier this week the Admin. said we wouldn’t deploy Bushies missile defense agreement in Europe… I didn’t think they would do it without getting something in return…
Article from AP today Russia won’t deploy missiles either and calls out Amadinnerjob for denying the holocaust…
Linky: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090919/ap_on_re_eu/eu_russia_missile_defense;_ylt=AvEq23OGiT0GTYuTD5eKU8us0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTM3a3JoYTk1BGFzc2V0A2FwLzIwMDkwOTE5L2V1X3J1c3NpYV9taXNzaWxlX2RlZmVuc2UEY3BvcwMxBHBvcwMzBHB0A2hvbWVfY29rZQRzZWMDeW5fdG9wX3N0b3J5BHNsawNmdWxsbmJzcHN0b3I-
goofsmom 09.19.09 at 1:51 pm
Rancho,
Glad you are using the wraps… wonder if the pain is something other than a pull or spasm… may need meds to relax it, if it’s a really bad spasm…
Sorry to hear about your mom… sending lot’s of good thoughts and prayers to all of you…
goofsmom 09.19.09 at 1:52 pm
CJK 09.19.09 at 2:38 pm
Is it too late to organize/participate in a girlcott of all the alphabet news stations airing the BO BS re ‘healthcare reform’ tomorrow? Can’t bear the thought of allowing this charade/shell game to go on without somehow demonstrating some sort of opposition. Virtually every poll shows the majority of Americans oppose this particular legislation, even those who favor some sort of responsible reform. Why has HR3200 not been dropped? Oh, oops, I forgot, because of BO’s and certain D’s egomaniacal narcissism and power madness…
HP Boston 09.19.09 at 2:53 pm
I for one will NOT turn on a tvee tomorrow…or the next ten days as O’Bumblast will be reviewed all day and night!
invalidresponse 09.19.09 at 3:11 pm
CJK 09.19.09 at 2:38 pm
Just curious, if you care to share.
What would “some sort of responsible reform” look like to you??
RememberNovember 09.19.09 at 3:40 pm
(((Rancho))) – voted for Alice Paul and other well deserving women – thanks to ((Goofs)) who alerted the ‘Women in 2010′ group by email about the Hall of Fame (post #167). Thanks Goofs
So sorry to hear about your Mom and back – hope both will soon be better and am sending good thoughts and very gentle hugs your way – I am in and out too these days and also miss everyone – this uncertainty too shall pass.
theamericanway 09.19.09 at 3:43 pm
Just got this in an email; it’s worth passing on (IMO).
Lloyd Marcus, Black Conservative sings LIVE while traveling with http://TeaPartyExpress.com & http://AmericanLibertyTour.com Download here @ iTunes http://bit.ly/2CxWa . Feel free to post everywhere…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZkvkLmkYVg
goofsmom 09.19.09 at 3:57 pm
Hmmmm…
#187 – would this have been as pertinent to post, if it had been someone other than a “Black Conservative”?
invalidresponse 09.19.09 at 4:13 pm
Lloyd Marcus is just another republican bigot, that also happens to be black.
goofsmom 09.19.09 at 4:21 pm
Howdy invalid…
invalidresponse 09.19.09 at 4:24 pm
hiya goofsmom .. how are ya??
goofsmom 09.19.09 at 4:40 pm
Hanging in there… good days and bad… like lots of us..
How ’bout you?
prplvette85 09.19.09 at 5:00 pm
Rancho 09.19.09 at 12:08 pm
Hello, all . . .I’m still alive, but treading water with work/back/family issues. I miss you all.
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((((Rancho))))
did your prowl. Hope you feel better soon.
goofsmom 09.19.09 at 5:18 pm
(((RemNov)))
Good to see ya on the blog… hope things settle down for ya next week…
prplvette85 09.19.09 at 5:21 pm
someone just sent this to me lol!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LO2eh6f5Go0
scarlet 09.19.09 at 5:32 pm
Terror Suspect’s Computer Said to Show Sports Stadiums, Fashion Sites
Officials Report Denver Man Sent Texts Suggesting Attack Coming; ‘Wedding Cake’ Is Ready
A computer belonging to alleged al Qaeda suspect Najibullah Zazi showed he had researched baseball and football stadiums and sites used in the recent Fashion Week event in New York City, law enforcement officials tell ABCNews.com.
After first denying any ties to al Qaeda, Zazi has now admitted certain ties developed during trips to Pakistan, law enforcement officials told ABCNews.com.
A recipe for homemade explosives found on Zazi’s computer would have produced a bomb of the same size and type used in London, authorities said.
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/suspects-computer-show-sports-stadiums-fashion-sites/story?id=8618732&nwltr=blotter_featureMore
scarlet 09.19.09 at 5:51 pm
Obama Retakes Global Stage
The president will fly Monday to New York to attend his first meeting of the United Nations General Assembly and then to a summit of the Group of 20 largest economic powers in Pittsburgh on Thursday and Friday.
… on Friday, he will open the G-20 meeting, with plans to issue broad new rules on bankers’ compensation, pledges to begin planning the eventual pullback of stimulus and government economic intervention and new marching orders on climate-change negotiations.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB125332211009624705.html
normapapuma 09.19.09 at 6:31 pm
#177 goofsmom
Voted for Alice Paul and the ladies in the other categories. Thanks for reposting. Going back to read up the thread.
normapapuma 09.19.09 at 6:35 pm
#188 P.S.
The entertainer is notable because he did NOT drink the kool-aid in a community drunk with kool-aid.
Swannie 09.19.09 at 7:48 pm
I voted for ALICE and the women …also we are getting SOUNDCLOUD for the radio station http://www.cygnusradio.com WOOOHOOO ( ok that is just radio station stuff but I am so excited I had to tell SOMEONE )WOOHOOOO
Juliette 09.19.09 at 7:57 pm
Hello Pumas.
I just got back from vacation and am so thrilled to learn that ACORN will not continue to get my tax dollars nor will I be expected to allow ACORN derelicts into my home to gather and distort US census information. Also thrilled as can be that Van Jones has been de-Czared.
God Bless America!
boogieman7167 09.19.09 at 8:47 pm
awsome post murphy keep up the good work
BillieJo 09.19.09 at 8:53 pm
Voted for Alice Paul
(((Goofsmom, Remember, Rancho, Dances…………..all my PUMAs.)))
Not in a great mood to blog but did my Women 2010 stuff and miss my PUMAs.
I know many of my PUMAs are in hard times too and I stand with you all.
stoney42 09.19.09 at 9:22 pm
I tried to vote for Alice Paul, but can’t get on the web site.
Clicked the link above, went to Alice Paul Institute web site – it said “vote here”, clicked that, but it would not go to the voting site. I don’t get it.
BillieJo 09.19.09 at 9:27 pm
stoney42, this one worked for me:
CAST A VOTE FOR ALICE PAUL ON THE NEW JERSEY HALL OF FAME WEBSITE http://www.njhalloffame.org/!
Casper Cat 09.19.09 at 9:31 pm
Voted! (((((((((BillieJo)))))))) you are soooooooooo appreciated!
stoney42 I do think you will need to click again on the site…. It worked for me… and, I am on a relic computer…. my friend does not believe in changing or throwing out old stuff just because it is old…. 
So, until I get home this will have to do….. 
Wishing all of you a wonderful weekend….. 
stoney42 09.19.09 at 9:36 pm
Thanks BillieJo,
Tried that and it still does not work. It is a mystery.
Juliette 09.19.09 at 9:52 pm
Hey, did anybody see Obama on the cover of Men’s Health Magazine?
Has he even quit smoking yet? Hummm.
RememberNovember 09.19.09 at 10:08 pm
stoney42 – Hall of Fame site didn’t work for me either until I allowed the site to set a cookie (which I subsequently deleted). I am very sparing with my permission for cookies – Pumapac and very few others!!
RememberNovember 09.19.09 at 10:15 pm
Juliette – hate to dampen your joy but it is not a done deal.
From: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/09/19/house-minority-leader-calls-special-vote-defund-acorn/House
Minority Leader Calls on Special Vote to Strip ACORN of Federal Money
The House and Senate each passed bills this week that would strip ACORN of taxpayer money, but it may not be so easy to halt federal funding for the scandal-tainted community organizing group.
RememberNovember 09.19.09 at 10:18 pm
Just popped in to say ‘hi’ lovely (((Pumas)))) – be back soon
honora 09.19.09 at 10:19 pm
Please vote for Mary Roebling as well as Alice Paul. Mary Roebling is the woman that built the Brooklyn Bridge when her husband the original designer was sick and could not continue. She is commemorated on a plaque on the bridge but few give her credit for pushing the completion of the bridge through. As a Brooklyn native, I honor her and would love to see her get the recognition she deserves, even if it is from Jersery!!! Just kidding
goofsmom 09.19.09 at 10:38 pm
honora,
I voted for Mary also… voted all women, all categories…
goofsmom 09.19.09 at 10:39 pm
(((BillieJo)))
Hang in there…
goofsmom 09.19.09 at 10:45 pm
BillieJo,
You have mail…
goofsmom 09.19.09 at 10:47 pm
(((prplvette85)))
I didn’t forget you… Hang in there…
goofsmom 09.19.09 at 11:02 pm
Poll to vote on Foxnews…
Should the Justice Department immediately move to freeze ACORN’s operations and assets until it completes a thorough criminal investigation?
Link to vote…
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2009/09/17/freeze-acorns-operations-assets/?test=latestnews
goofsmom 09.19.09 at 11:03 pm
Results of Fox’s Acorn Poll:
Thank you for voting!
Yes. ACORN has shown it is a corrupt organization that should be shut down immediately. 91% (162,110 votes)
Yes, a Justice Department investigation is the only way ACORN can clear its name. 8% (13,865 votes)
No, regardless of its problems, ACORN provides needed services for low-income Americans. 1% (1,392 votes)
I’m not sure. <1% (326 votes)
Total Votes: 177,693
goofsmom 09.19.09 at 11:06 pm
RE: #217 and 218…
KARMA!…
Thought this might be fun for everyone to see…
simofish 09.20.09 at 12:06 am
A friend sent this to me -
An economics professor at a local college made a statement that he had never failed a single student before, but had once failed an entire class.
That class had insisted that Obama’s socialism worked and that no one would be poor and no one would be rich, a great equalizer.
The professor then said, “OK, we will have an experiment in this class on Obama’s plan”.
All grades would be averaged and everyone would receive the same grade so no one would fail and no one would receive an A.
After the first test, the grades were averaged and everyone got a B. The students who studied hard were upset and the students who studied little were happy.
As the second test rolled around, the students who studied little had studied even less and the ones who studied hard decided they wanted a free ride too so they studied little. The second test average was a D!
No one was happy.
When the 3rd test rolled around, the average was an F.
The scores never increased as bickering, blame and name-calling all resulted in hard feelings and no one would study for the benefit of anyone else.
All failed, to their great surprise, and the professor told them that socialism would also ultimately fail because when the reward is great, the effort to succeed is great but when government takes all the reward away, no one will try or want to succeed.
Could not be any simpler than that.
DancesWithPumas 09.20.09 at 12:08 am
Then again, one would expect those numbers from followers of FOX.
Goodnight Pumas
scarlet 09.20.09 at 12:20 am
Obama Said to Request That Paterson Drop Campaign
The White House move could give them cover to abandon Mr. Paterson and endorse another candidate, most likely Attorney General Andrew M. Cuomo, who has been debating for months whether to take on Mr. Paterson in a primary.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/20/nyregion/20paterson.html?_r=1&hp
goofsmom 09.20.09 at 12:29 am
Dances,
#221 – I started to add that disclaimer but then thought, what the heck… It’s nice to see Acorn failing…
Nighty-night… sleep well…
simofish 09.20.09 at 12:32 am
scarlet — this article does mention the white house still being pissed about Carolina Kennedy not getting the nod from Patterson. Hope Patterson stays in the race.
goofsmom 09.20.09 at 12:32 am
simofish,
#220 – great example of socialism… Don’t agree that this is where “O” is taking the country but still a good explanation.
simofish 09.20.09 at 12:33 am
Yeah – not sure what he’s trying to do – not even sure he knows. There are a lot of people who believe is spreading the wealth unless it’s theirs.
goofsmom 09.20.09 at 12:38 am
simofish,
Absolutely agree with #226….
Try to take some of Congress’s money and benefits away and see how far ya get… 
BillieJo 09.20.09 at 3:21 am
(((((((((((((( Casper Cat ))))))))))) – Thank you sweet PUMA.
Voted! (((((((((BillieJo)))))))) you are soooooooooo appreciated!
BillieJo 09.20.09 at 3:34 am
((((((((((Goofsmom and Remember, thank you.))))))))))
BillieJo 09.20.09 at 3:35 am
simofish 09.20.09 at 12:33 am
Yeah – not sure what he’s trying to do – not even sure he knows. There are a lot of people who believe is spreading the wealth unless it’s theirs.
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Yup, King of the Pick Pockets, Slick Rick the Poverty Pimp (per Ario)
theamericanway 09.20.09 at 6:38 am
The President’s domestic critics who accuse him of being the sinister wielder of a socialist master-plan are wide of the mark. The man who has run nothing more demanding than the Harvard Law Review is beginning to look out of his depth in the world’s top job. His credibility is seeping away, and it will require concrete achievements rather than more soaring oratory to recover it.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/barackobama/6210152/President-Barack-Obama-is-beginning-to-look-out-of-his-depth.html
scarlet 09.20.09 at 8:35 am
ACORNs stay on branch
Gov. Paterson yesterday moved to put a 30-day hold on all state contracts with ACORN.
New York ACORN’s president, Pat Boone, said: “We welcome the governor’s review and are confident he will find that every state dollar we’ve received went directly to combating New York’s foreclosure crisis” and helping New Yorkers get tax credits.
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/brooklyn/acorns_stay_on_branch_pWJnL5wIe6ndZsVX6L9bVO
Notyoursweetie 09.20.09 at 8:39 am
Obama is calling all opposition racist. Unofficially, of course.
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/06/21/roe-vs-wade-obamas-ace-in-the-hole/
HP Boston 09.20.09 at 9:20 am
Going apple picking and a winery tour this beautiful day in the Great Metro West………..Very intersting info on the farm web site.
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From a farming point of view, 2008 was a difficult economic year for Nashoba Valley and many other farms in Massachusetts. For Nashoba, hail in August destroyed approximately 60 percent of our crop. We were very fortunate to have very loyal and understanding customers who still came to our farm and purchased less than perfect apples. Their support allowed us to survive an otherwise horrific situation.
Throughout 2009 we hope that you will still consider a gift of Nashoba Valley as every purchase helps sustain a local farm. According to the USDA, the U.S. has lost over five million farms since 1935. Family farms are going out of business at break-neck speed, causing rural communities to deteriorate. The U.S. loses two acres of farmland each minute as cities and suburbs spread into the surrounding communities. By supporting local farms near suburban areas and around cities, you help keep farmers on the land, and, at the same time, preserve open spaces and counteract urban sprawl.
Out Sincerest Wishes,
Richard Pelletier and the staff of Nashoba Valley
http://www.nashobawinery.com/festivals.aspx
DancesWithPumas 09.20.09 at 9:38 am
Obama Said to Request That Paterson Drop Campaign
By RAYMOND HERNANDEZ and JEFF ZELENY
The move against the unpopular Gov. David A. Paterson represents an extraordinary intervention into a state political race by the president.
WASHINGTON — President Obama has sent a request to Gov. David A. Paterson that he withdraw from the New York governor’s race, fearing that Mr. Paterson cannot recover from his dismal political standing, according to two senior administration officials and a New York Democratic operative with direct knowledge of the situation.
The decision to ask Mr. Paterson to step aside was proposed by political advisers to Mr. Obama, but approved by the president himself, one of the administration officials said.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/20/nyregion/20paterson.html?_r=1&hp=&pagewanted=print
BigCatLover 09.20.09 at 9:51 am
Governor Patterson going under the Obama bus is all over the news this morning. Payback for Caroline Kennedy or just failure to bow to the great leader wishes? Another flap for an administration that already has way too many flaps. Yahoo and Washington Post have stories about this today, as well as the NYTimes.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090920/ap_on_re_us/us_ny_governor_s_race
DancesWithPumas 09.20.09 at 9:58 am
#234 HP Boston
Same is happening in CA.
Last trip I took to the Bay Area on the Golden State Hway (Hwy 5) there were signs along the neighboring agri sections…
Dust Bowl brought to you by Congress. The encroaching housing developments are dumping their sewage into neighboring waterways and land… rendering the land unusable for agriculture.
DancesWithPumas 09.20.09 at 10:29 am
The man who has run nothing more demanding than the Harvard Law Review is beginning to look out of his depth in the world’s top job. His credibility is seeping away, and it will require concrete achievements rather than more soaring oratory to recover it.
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Altho, he didnt actually run the HLR either.
scarlet 09.20.09 at 10:49 am
Al-Qaida posted a new video this week threatening that if Germans do not push their political parties to withdraw the country’s soldiers from Afghanistan, “there will be a rude awakening after the elections.” Germany holds national elections Sept. 27.
http://wire.antiwar.com/2009/09/19/taliban-leader-tells-invaders-to-study-history-2/
sistermoon3 09.20.09 at 11:48 am
unfreaking believable
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STEPHANOPOULOS: But have your — have some of your allies made it easier for — handed your opponents some ammunition, like ACORN, for example…
OBAMA: Well, look, the — you know, I think that — are there folks in the Democratic camp or on the left who haven’t — haven’t always operated in ways that I’d appreciate? Absolutely.
STEPHANOPOULOS: Congress said they should cut off all funding for ACORN.
OBAMA: Is — is — is…
STEPHANOPOULOS: … all funding for ACORN. Are you for that?
OBAMA: Is that true on the other side, as well? Of course that’s true.
STEPHANOPOULOS: How about the funding for ACORN?
OBAMA: You know, it’s — frankly, it’s not really something I’ve followed closely. I didn’t even know that ACORN was getting a whole lot of federal money.
STEPHANOPOULOS: Both the Senate and the House have voted to cut it off.
OBAMA: You know, what I know is, is that what I saw on that video was certainly inappropriate and deserves to be investigated.
STEPHANOPOULOS: So you’re not committing to — to cut off the federal funding?
OBAMA: George, this is not the biggest issue facing the country. It’s not something I’m paying a lot of attention to.
BigCatLover 09.20.09 at 12:13 pm
sistermoon3 09.20.09 at 11:48 am
Wow! What more can you say.
simofish 09.20.09 at 12:17 pm
sistermoon – 240 -
He needs to be paying attention to it. ACORN had a HUGE hand in the housing crisis along with Freddie / Fannie. They are out there telling people to stop paying their mortgage and stay in their houses.
Problem with these news people like George – they need to say – this is a huge deal — you used to work for Acorn – you were their attorney – you said they would help shape your administration.
FLBarbara 09.20.09 at 12:20 pm
OBAMA: You know, it’s — frankly, it’s not really something I’ve followed closely. I didn’t even know that ACORN was getting a whole lot of federal money.
Well than let’s talk about the nearly 1 million your campaign paid to them to “register voters “???
prplvette85 09.20.09 at 12:23 pm
This is what I was talking about in another post about a month ago. Food Stamp fraud. It happens everywhere out her. Especially at check cashing stores. The food stamp recipient sells the stamps for cash, mostly for drugs and alcohol. This was a big one, a grocer buying them at 65 cents on the dollar, then getting full value for them from the government. I am sure it goes on everywhere.
Gary grocer gets six years in $3.8M food stamp scheme
http://www.post-trib.com/news/lake/1777115,prusinski0918.article
kat in your hat 09.20.09 at 12:24 pm
@#240
flashback: Photo of Obama meeting with ACORN: http://msplaceddemocrat.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/obama-acorn.jpg
bigger image:
http://media.photobucket.com/image/obama%20and%20acorn/Pb43905/PoliticalPhotos/Obama-Acorn.jpg
prplvette85 09.20.09 at 12:24 pm
here not her
FLBarbara 09.20.09 at 12:35 pm
What obama saw was inappropriate ????
What was inappropriate Mr. Obama?
13-16 years being smuggled into the country as sex slaves? Or Mortgage fraud? Or tax fraud?
Or billions of dollars in tax payer money used to fund this organization?
Or perhaps what is really inappropriate is the fact that you are not paying it a lot of attention.
FLBarbara 09.20.09 at 12:39 pm
Not paying a lot of attention to??? ACORN going down???
You LIE
And I am not apologizing !!!!
kat in your hat 09.20.09 at 12:42 pm
scarlet #232
Maybe they can also look into why ACORN, Project Vote, the New Party and Citizen Action share the same address in Brooklyn at: 88 Third Avenue, Third Floor, Brooklyn, NY 11217
(doubt it) I feel like going over there to see what’s up.
And funny thing about O telling Paterson to go away. I guess O wants Cuomo to run and win. Rumors are Giuliani might run.
Thing is, Paterson just endorsed Thompson who is running for mayor against Bloomberg, and that doesn’t look very good for Thompson. Perhaps O wants to help Bloomberg too.
MamaPuma 09.20.09 at 12:42 pm
I watched Bertha Lewis interview and it was appalling.
Bertha Lewis, CEO / Chief Organizer, ACORN appeared with Rep. Darrell Issa, (R) California / Ranking Member, Oversight and Government Reform Committee. They were interviewed by Chris Wallace, the host of FOX News Sunday.
What was most interesting to me was that she absolutely refused to answer any questions and kept saying “we have an obligation to the poor.” It is a classic defense and watching it and fearing that anyone would buy it was very scary to me.
Congressman asked her if she would open ACORN’s books so that Congress could see
1. if they were funneling funds given for one purpose such as housing counseling into voter (fraud) registration in violation of the law – my words not his
2. if they were funneling funds given for one purpose into another in violation of the grant rules
3. etc. more of the same.
she answered we help the poor.
The
MamaPuma 09.20.09 at 12:44 pm
Bertha attacks Fox, film makers etc.
http://biggovernment.com/2009/09/12/statement-from-bertha-lewis-acorn-chief-organizer/#more-1498
sistermoon3 09.20.09 at 12:45 pm
when she says “we help the poor” she’s talking about all the people that work their and draw salaries.
she and obama are flat out lying
kat in your hat 09.20.09 at 12:49 pm
Wait, where was that pimp sting/ ACORN video out of NY taken from? Anyone know which office?
kat in your hat 09.20.09 at 12:52 pm
@ #249 #253 Okay, shit, it was out of Brooklyn. Maybe same place! (sorry, something clicking in my head and talking outloud. pfft.)
kat in your hat 09.20.09 at 1:00 pm
@#249 Connecting the Insidious Obama and ACORN Nexus
http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/09/17/connecting-the-insidious-obama-and-acorn-nexus/
“Citizen Action”/ “Citizen Services” sounds a LIL too much alike methinks. BBL.
FLBarbara 09.20.09 at 1:01 pm
ACORN the new Robinhood?
Swannie 09.20.09 at 1:11 pm
KAt in you hat
if you go to their offices be sure and dress and a hooker LOL I wanna go with you and bring the camera ..OH wait their CEO stopped all “walk ins” cant imagine why ..
next thing you know .. Bo will say
THEY ARE NOT THE ACORN I KNEW
FLBarbara 09.20.09 at 1:15 pm
Kat
Talking out loud to people who are there is a good thing
Talking to people who are not there or people who are not there talking to you is not so good. LOL
Keep talking I am listening.
I think the brooklyn one was the guy who could smuggle girls in from Mexico.
DancesWithPumas 09.20.09 at 1:17 pm
FLBarbara 09.20.09 at 1:01 pm
ACORN the new Robinhood?
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More likely “robbing the ‘hood”
simofish 09.20.09 at 1:18 pm
What’s wrong with being poor? I have been super poor in my adult life and in my childhood my mother struggled raising 4 kids while my dad was an asshole holding off on child support.
People make choices / decisions in their life that lead to them being poor. Or shit happens. It’s not a terrible thing to be poor.
I am no longer poor. However, I still make decisions to ensure I am not poor because I like buying my gadgets and traveling and doing the things I love to do. Can’t do that if I am poor.
How does Acorn help the poor? By telling them to cheat on their taxes? If you’re poor you don’t pay a lot of taxes. So how are they helping? By giving them an office job?
DancesWithPumas 09.20.09 at 1:19 pm
I think the brooklyn one was the guy who could smuggle girls in from Mexico.
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I thought the Mexico sex slaves smuggling lawyer was in San Diego.
Swannie 09.20.09 at 1:25 pm
Every shady charity that is guilty of breaking the law always says that .. “we help the poor” That is nothing new …She said that as if that alone was justification for illegitimate practices and granted immunity from investigation …think again …
DancesWithPumas 09.20.09 at 1:26 pm
OBAMA: George, this is not the biggest issue facing the country. It’s not something I’m paying a lot of attention to.
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My ass, jackass.
sistermoon3 09.20.09 at 1:26 pm
OBAMA: George, this is not the biggest issue facing the country. It’s not something I’m paying a lot of attention to.
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yep, i say let all those illegally slave traders bring those underage teenage girls here and pimp em out it will help the economy and hey, it tax free, we have bigger issues my ass, you dumbfuck
and you have 2 daughters, wow, what a freaking horrible father you actually are.
sistermoon3 09.20.09 at 1:28 pm
let’s see, he says we americans cant get our arms around his healthcare plans, but he’s not aware of federal funding for acorn, jees, i dont know why we wouldnt trust him with that
DancesWithPumas 09.20.09 at 1:30 pm
Swannie
“We help the poor.”
That’s like a St. Francis of Assisi defense.
They’re expecting a halo effect in return.
Sorta like fighting pitbull trainers help animals.
FLBarbara 09.20.09 at 1:30 pm
Dances
You are right the sex slaves from Mexico was San Diego
goofsmom 09.20.09 at 1:33 pm
Howdy (((((PUMAs)))))
Loving the discussion of “O”s idiocy and snarky comments this morning… spit my coffee out twice already…
Go PUMAs Go…
goofsmom 09.20.09 at 1:34 pm
Dances and BillieJo,
You both have mail….
Swannie 09.20.09 at 1:35 pm
Dances … I think TAMMY FAY BAKER said the same thing LOLOL along with JIMMY SWAGGERT ..heck Jimmy even cried …
we help the poor … that is so sad .. we help the poor underage girls get smuggled into the country so the poor pimps can make money on them ??
MamaPuma 09.20.09 at 1:38 pm
DancesWithPumas 09.20.09 at 1:19 pm [edit]
I thought the Mexico sex slaves smuggling lawyer was in San Diego.
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They are bringing sex-slaves from San Diego!!!!!!!!!! Dances, are you working for the film makers????????? OMG. WTF!!
DancesWithPumas 09.20.09 at 1:42 pm
Now that the fraud involves sex everyone is awake. Media wasn’t interested at all when it was only about election fraud. Freaks.
Either way, whatever it takes to get the ball rolling (no pun intended).
kat in your hat 09.20.09 at 1:42 pm
ACORN has to go down in flames big time. OTHER decent and honest organizations can help poor people with housing/ getting out the vote. NOT these entrenched people, but then these people would probably just go work for the next fakey clean front group/ same type of group. They have been using different organization names as fronts for dem politicians to funnel their money into for their voter fraud crap. Ya, Rathke is the body of octopus, and the arms are SEIU, ACORN, Project Vote, Citizen Action/ Citizen Services, The New Party, etc etc etc etc–more unions.
Who knows how high this goes. You get some kids to get as many people (real or not) to sign up to register to vote. Then you have people on the inside at the board of elections and also at voting sites…you have the same people vote over and over again with the different registrations and everyone looks the other away. This garbage runs deep. And it’s EASY.
Pissed Gillibrand voted to keep funding them, cause even if she doesn’t necessarily think they will stay afloat and help her election (which they WILL, now)–it at least proved to me that she owes them. sigh. And ya know, ACORN is allied to every democratic organization. So THEN…ya gotta think…who IS clean? Are they all like this? Is this JUST politics and it’s ALWAYS been this way and always will be? (Likely)
I just want them shut down and audited and for Obama’s deeper connection to ACORN to be in the MSM. I don’t think anyone can stop the same things from happening again, or get ACORN to not morph into what it once was all over again just under yet another name. Politics is so dirty…can’t trust anybody.
MamaPuma 09.20.09 at 1:43 pm
My question is this. Blacks in American want to have special privileges because their ancestors (that were here 160 years ago)were enslaved. The Irish were enslaved by the English for thousands of years. That makes me a person who abhors slavery and cares very much about slavery that went on here, that went on other places and that goes on now.
How come none of the ACORN workers and all of the ones that I saw were minorities were not incensed, appalled and apoplectic about sex-slavery? I don’t get the lack of identification and lack of a need to protect young girls. It shocks me.
goofsmom 09.20.09 at 1:44 pm
MSM – all gossipy news all the time… Or MSM – If it isn’t gossip it’s not newsworthy…
DancesWithPumas 09.20.09 at 1:46 pm
Mama,
I don’t carry this camera fer nuthin’, ya know…
The pimp&prostitute spoke with an ACORN guy (practised law in Mexico) about smuggling el salvadorian minor girls in through Mexico. The lawyer knew people and suggested they do it through Tijuana, where he had more connections.
ACORN dismissed him, but not at first…
DancesWithPumas 09.20.09 at 1:49 pm
#274
“girls” may be the key word here.
goofsmom 09.20.09 at 1:49 pm
(((MamaPuma)))
#274 – (psst Snarky comment) because it’s just girls and they aren’t a minority… or because it would happen anyway they are poor (economically) and have to do what they can to survive… tsk, tsk what a shame but what can we do to stop it…
(Snarky comment over)
goofsmom 09.20.09 at 1:52 pm
kat in your hat,
Yep… All politicians are corrupt…
VOTE THEM ALL OUT…
Vote in people (Women) not politicians…
prplvette85 09.20.09 at 1:53 pm
So Bertha Lewis changes strategy before going on the Fox Sunday show. She says she is “outraged” by what was on those tapes. She vows to “reform” Acorn… Where have we heard those words before?…. Could it be the great community organizer got a message to her? pffft
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O’fraud has not been keep up with the Acorn issue? No..hes too busy sticking his nose in the Gov race in New York, telling Patterson he should step aside.. and of course busy with his media blitz for his healthcare reform… oh…that word again…reform…
FUCKTARD…
IMPEACH OBAMA
kat in your hat 09.20.09 at 1:53 pm
The thing is, I knew for over a year that the Brooklyn address was for The New party, ACORN and Project Vote. Then, this morning I just searched the address again and got GRUMPY because I saw “Citizen Action” now listed with that exact same address:
Women’s Rights at Work
A project of Citizen Action of New York
88 Third Avenue
Brooklyn, NY 11217
United States of America
A workplace sexual harassment and sex discrimination outreach and education project. We operate a toll free helpline, offer informational forums where women who are experiencing harassment or discrimination at work can educate themselves on their options and we conduct educational workshops on sexual harassment.
http://www.distel.ca/womlist/countries/usa/newyork4.html
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It SOUNDS nice, but then I looked up Citizen Action of New York’s website and it’s all about getting out the VOTE and helping with HOUSING. http://citizenactionny.org/ So, I got grumpy. Women’s help center MAY be at that Brooklyn address, but it’s just another ACORN/ ACORN affiliate front. Makes.me.grumpy.
prplvette85 09.20.09 at 1:56 pm
^Keeping up with Acorn… dam fingers not working this morning… let me see…oh middle one works…
f*k obama…
DancesWithPumas 09.20.09 at 1:57 pm
prplvette85 09.20.09 at 1:56 pm
^Keeping up with Acorn… dam fingers not working this morning… let me see…oh middle one works…
f*k obama…
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lololol
MamaPuma 09.20.09 at 2:01 pm
DancesWithPumas 09.20.09 at 1:49 pm [edit]
#274
“girls” may be the key word here.
goofsmom 09.20.09 at 1:49 pm [edit]
#274 – (psst Snarky comment) because it’s just girls and they aren’t a minority… or because it would happen anyway they are poor (economically) and have to do what they can to survive… tsk, tsk what a shame but what can we do to stop it…
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I am at a loss. Why are girls expendable? They are minority girls? All of the Acorn people were women.
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By the way Dances,
I thought you were one of the San Diego “girls” that was going to work in the brothel – not you were part of the film making.
BillieJo 09.20.09 at 2:02 pm
STEPHANOPOULOS: How about the funding for ACORN?
OBAMA: You know, it’s — frankly, it’s not really something I’ve followed closely. I didn’t even know that ACORN was getting a whole lot of federal money. (Either a flat out lie or his is not doing his job!)
STEPHANOPOULOS: Both the Senate and the House have voted to cut it off.
OBAMA: You know, what I know is, is that what I saw on that video was certainly inappropriate and deserves to be investigated.
STEPHANOPOULOS: So you’re not committing to — to cut off the federal funding?
OBAMA: George, this is not the biggest issue facing the country. It’s not something I’m paying a lot of attention to. (Another gray hair moment)
We need this on tape if anyone finds a link……….. “GOLDEN” as Blago would say.
Don’t take American’s as idiots Mr. President, or it will come back to bite you in the butt!
DancesWithPumas 09.20.09 at 2:03 pm
“The relentless attacks on ACORN’s members, its staff and the policies and positions we promote are unprecedented. An international entertainment conglomerate, disguising itself as a “news” agency (Fox), has expended millions, if not tens of millions of dollars, in their attempt to destroy the largest community organization of Black, Latino, poor and working class people in the country. It is not coincidence that the most recent attacks have been launched just when health care reform is gaining traction. It is clear they’ve had these tapes for months.”
Bertha
http://biggovernment.com/2009/09/12/statement-from-bertha-lewis-acorn-chief-organizer/#more-1498
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For Bertha, it isnt about the content of the tapes, it’s the timing of their release. What a moron.
Read the comments.
prplvette85 09.20.09 at 2:05 pm
Now wh is denying getting involved in NY Gov race:
This Dem rep Gregory Meeks. I am wondering if he is related to a Chicago preacher James Meeks, he was heavily involved in o’fraud’s campaign. I will have to check this out.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/elections/2009/09/20/aides-obama-urged-paterson-reconsider-ny-gov-race/
The Obama administration on Sunday flatly denied that the president intervened in New York state politics and urged Gov. David Paterson to withdraw from the 2010 governor’s race.
“President Obama is not involved in any way,” a senior administration official told FOX News.
The pushback came after The New York Times reported that Obama asked Paterson, a Democrat, to drop out over concern that he is damaged goods, politically, and could drag down other Democrats in the state. The Times quoted administration officials as saying the president’s request was conveyed to Paterson by Queens Democratic Rep. Gregory Meeks.
DancesWithPumas 09.20.09 at 2:07 pm
I am at a loss. Why are girls expendable?
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Because we live in a patriarchy, where men value males as complete human beings… the rest of us, women and girls, are segmented in terms of our usefulness to males.
DancesWithPumas 09.20.09 at 2:08 pm
By the way Dances,
I thought you were one of the San Diego “girls” that was going to work in the brothel – not you were part of the film making.
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Now, I know you didnt say this and I am just hallucinating.
DancesWithPumas 09.20.09 at 2:09 pm
OBAMA: You know, it’s — frankly, it’s not really something I’ve followed closely. I didn’t even know that ACORN was getting a whole lot of federal money. (Either a flat out lie or his is not doing his job!)
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He’s either lying (as per usual) or he’s a bigger dumbfluck than we know. Either way… he’s a loser.
goofsmom 09.20.09 at 2:09 pm
Mama,
Girls are not expendable here (Mostly)… Girls are expendable in many 3rd world countries. Doesn’t make it right but many people just shrug and go on because if these foreign countries don’t step in and fix it why should they get involved.
It is a very sad commentary on society as a whole and something that many of us here are trying to change.
It is shocking and we should all be shocked and offended but how many of the congresscritters said anything about investigating the sex-slavery problem that exsists here in the US as opposed to just focusing on Acorn to try and take down “O”…. hmmmm I think I hear silence in the Capital on this issue… :::crickets:::
MamaPuma 09.20.09 at 2:10 pm
DancesWithPumas 09.20.09 at 2:03 pm [edit]
ACORN’s Bertha Lewis says
“(Fox), has expended millions, if not tens of millions of dollars, in their attempt to destroy the largest community organization of Black, Latino, poor and working class people in the country” using the tapes.
FOX did not make the tapes or have the tapes made. They just showed them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DancesWithPumas 09.20.09 at 2:12 pm
If there are larger, more significant issues this country (obama) is facing, and if obama isn’t following closely, why did he bother to watch a short youtube?
YOU LIE.
DancesWithPumas 09.20.09 at 2:13 pm
Girls are not expendable here (Mostly)…
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strongly disagree.
DancesWithPumas 09.20.09 at 2:13 pm
Mama
Yep. Kill the messenger… ignore the message.
DancesWithPumas 09.20.09 at 2:16 pm
From comments at the Bertha response site:
“ACORN is Willie Horton and Barack Obama is Michael Dukakis.”
invalidresponse 09.20.09 at 2:22 pm
Girls are “seen” as expendable here….
as long as it is done out of the spot light, and behind closed doors, and kept out of the majority view. Once brought to the spot light, well then that is a different story, one MUST “show” outrage and must condemn it for the wrong that it is, while quietly reprimanding those that allowed it to be exposed to the light of day, not for actually doing it, but rather for allowing it to be exposed.
Kinda like Ozero will be about Acorn in the neer future.
Zee 09.20.09 at 2:25 pm
Oh, dang, Dances….it looks as if you’ve been fighting the good fight all alone here. I guess I’ll have to go read Cinie’s piece, and if there is one thing I hate more than having my eyes glaze over at the long-time Republican rag doll of ACORN dragged out and chewed on, it’s having to read up on the latest bogus talking points. (And sistermoon, you might try bashing Dems for “hating” Republicans on a Republican site where it will be better received.) I disagree that this manufactured “outrage” is a good thing because “maybe” ACORN’s role in the primary as regards to Obama will be investigated. You know it won’t.
Why? Because it’s apples and oranges. If you really wanted to focus on ACORN’s role in the primary then right now you would be cringing and cursing the dingbats who trumped up this DISTRACTION of a NONSTORY.
To tell the truth alllllllllllllll that work trying to prove that “Mickey Mouse” was in any way “proof” of voter fraud was what VERY successfully derailed the power of PUMApac when there was ample proof of caucus fraud that should’ve remained the focus but which was instead dropped in favor for this long term bogus rightwing distraction.
People. A majority of high school kids in the U.S. can’t tell you who was the first president of the U.S. Now you want to pretend that a few dingbats who gave advice to two obvious pranksters are indicative of the intent of an entire organization? Please.
An organization which, btw, doesn’t get the majority of its funding from the gummint, so all this posturing by the politicians won’t make one whit of a difference.
Lose-lose of a focus.
prplvette85 09.20.09 at 2:27 pm
I wonder if Gregory Meeks is a relative of a Chicago preacher James Meeks of Salem Baptist Church? I am checking this out. James Meeks was heavily involved in o’frauds campaign.
http://www.chicagopride.com/news/article.cfm/articleid/5603104
When Obama ran for the U.S. Senate in 2003, he frequently campaigned at Salem Baptist Church while Rev. Meeks appeared in television ads supporting the Illinois senator’s campaign. Later, according to the same Chicago Sun Times article, on the night after he won the Democratic primary, Sen. Obama attended bible study at Meeks’ church ‘for prayer’ and ‘to say thank you.
Since that time, not only has Meeks himself served on Obama’s exploratory committee for the presidency and been listed on the Obama’s campaign website as one of the senator’s ‘influential black supporters’, but his church choir was called on to raise their voices in praise at a rally the night Obama announced his run for the White House back in 2007.
Interestingly, the Chicago Sun Times has also reported that both Meeks and Obama share a history of substantial campaign contributions from indicted real estate magnate Tony Rezko.
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http://dailymusings.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!EBAB74DA8F94C559!5279.entry
“We don’t have slave masters, we got mayors,” exclaimed James Meeks, an Illinois state senator and pastor of one of the largest churches in the state, in an August, 2006 sermon broadcast on a Chicago community television channel.
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Zee 09.20.09 at 2:27 pm
273 Yeah, right.
And alllllll the people arrested for this “voter fraud?”
Or even one?
Waiting.
kat in your hat 09.20.09 at 2:29 pm
@ #281
“Citizen Action of CA” on Discover the Networks: http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/groupProfile.asp?grpid=7284
Of COURSE: Rathke/ SEIU/ money laundering to help politicians with campaigns–teamsters, IRS REPORTS, etc….blah. That site says that Citizen Action CA is dead because of the money laundering scandal. Do they know there is a thriving NY office, currently?
(Yeah, I remember when O was endorsed by Teamsters along with all the rest of them.)
That post at Discover the Networks uses this as a resource:
WADE RATHKE: ACORN’S FOUNDER, AYERS’ COMPATRIOT
http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/10/17/wade-rathke-acorns-founder-ayers-compatriot/
goofsmom 09.20.09 at 2:29 pm
Dances and invalid,
Corrections are noted, I should have phrased that better… I would like to change it to “Girls are not seen as expendable here ‘publicly’”
invalid… #297 said it better than I did…
Zee 09.20.09 at 2:30 pm
Sheesh. ::putting on hip boots to wade through to the other side::
I just came by to have some fun pointing out that Our Black President has thrown a brother under the bus:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090920/pl_nm/us_obama_paterson
kat in your hat 09.20.09 at 2:30 pm
Oh, I’m sorry, ZEE, it’s just “voter registration fraud” Riiiight.
DancesWithPumas 09.20.09 at 2:31 pm
From comments again:
“The videos are doctored, which is why they had to fire everyone. Right. Got it.”
http://biggovernment.com/2009/09/12/statement-from-bertha-lewis-acorn-chief-organizer/#more-1498
BillieJo 09.20.09 at 2:32 pm
Obama, Stephanopoulos Spar (More gray hair…)
President Obama and ABC News’ George Stephanopoulos got in a testy sparring match Sunday over whether the president’s health care plan includes a tax increase, leading the host to look up the Merriam-Webster dictionary definition of taxes.
In the interview airing Sunday, Stephanopoulos pressed the president on his plan to require people to purchase health insurance.
“Under this mandate, the government is forcing people to spend money, fining you if you don’t. How is that not a tax?” the host asked.
Obama responded: ” No, but — but, George, you — you can’t just make up that language and decide that that’s called a tax increase.”
Stephanopoulos then offered the dictionary definition.
“I don’t think I’m making it up. Merriam-Webster’s dictionary: ‘Tax, a charge, usually of money, imposed by authority on persons or property for public purposes,’” he said.
Visibly taken aback, Obama rejected the notion it was a tax increase and said pulling the dictionary out was a sign the host was “stretching” a little.
“No. That — that’s not true, George. The — for us to say that you’ve got to take a responsibility to get health insurance is absolutely not a tax increase,” Obama said.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/09/20/obama-stephanopoulos-spar-definition-tax/
DancesWithPumas 09.20.09 at 2:32 pm
goofsmom 09.20.09 at 2:29 pm
Dances and invalid,
Corrections are noted, I should have phrased that better… I would like to change it to “Girls are not seen as expendable here ‘publicly’”
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Let’s ask Hillary and Palin
sistermoon3 09.20.09 at 2:37 pm
Zee, who licked the candy off your apple today?
invalidresponse 09.20.09 at 2:37 pm
Dances, #307
I was referring to “girls”
Full grown women, now that is another thing… they are totally expendable in public, private, and anywhere else, when they are not following the agenda of furthering the male agenda.
DancesWithPumas 09.20.09 at 2:39 pm
Where do you think the expendable women come from?
invalidresponse 09.20.09 at 2:41 pm
sistermoon3 09.20.09 at 2:37
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oh please Zee, allow me to answer…the same ones that have been doing it since the formation of this “unholy alliance”
MamaPuma 09.20.09 at 2:44 pm
Zee 09.20.09 at 2:25 pm [edit]
“Why? Because it’s apples and oranges. If you really wanted to focus on ACORN’s role in the primary then right now you would be cringing and cursing the dingbats who trumped up this DISTRACTION of a NONSTORY.”
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This is the non-story that may very well put a stake into the heart of ACORN and as a result stop Caucus fraud in the future. This is not a non-story. This is a fire-storm of a story because it engages all the people that could not raise an eyebrow not be made to believe in Caucus fraud. Taking ACORN down is a first step and very much apples and apples as well as ACORNs and ACORNs.
Every fraud counts. I wonder why you think this story is table scraps. I think it exposes a culture of gaming the system while using the system’s money.
There will be prosecutions if the media follow this. FOX is likely to follow this. I am less interested in prosecuting the slime balls in the films that don’t care about pedophila and sex-slavery than I am interested in bringing down billions of tax dollars spent on voter and voter registration fraud, housing fraud, racist attitudes that harm the poor of the wrong community and every other horror that ACORN has brought to the poor communities.
This is not a distraction.
sistermoon3 09.20.09 at 2:45 pm
can i get this straight, are you saying that the whole acorn thing is not real, and it’s a rightwing nut job? i mean say it in plain old english so i too can understand? By all means.
invalidresponse 09.20.09 at 2:46 pm
Dances #310,
It is not what you do or say, it is how it is perceived…. the perception is that “girls” are off limits, but attacking a woman can be cloaked in the “treated as equal” mantra …. which is all total bull$hit..but seems to continue to work for them in some sick, doesn’t make since way.
BillieJo 09.20.09 at 2:49 pm
sistermoon3 09.20.09 at 2:37 pm
Zee, who licked the candy off your apple today?
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Now that is funny. First time I’ve laughed all day.
DancesWithPumas 09.20.09 at 2:49 pm
Zee
Please recall the Watergate run of teh mill break-in and where it lead the US. Sometimes it takes only a small fracture of the shell to access the nut within.
Sorry if I’m sounding like “we’re all like snowflakes, each unique” that one of the whackodoo used to lecture us with.
prplvette85 09.20.09 at 2:50 pm
DancesWithPumas 09.20.09 at 2:09 pm
OBAMA: You know, it’s — frankly, it’s not really something I’ve followed closely. I didn’t even know that ACORN was getting a whole lot of federal money. (Either a flat out lie or his is not doing his job!)
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He’s either lying (as per usual) or he’s a bigger dumbfluck than we know. Either way… he’s a loser.
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He is a loser… we know damn well he is following Acorn, because, if an independent agency investigates, I mean truly investigates Acorn…it is going to open up a bigger can of worms for lyinscumbagofaprez than he ever imagined. … He will never let that happen.
Swannie 09.20.09 at 2:50 pm
“people” ??? people”??? last time I checked … I thought for myself please do not tell me what to think .. … I used to be a democrat and now an independent in so many ways especially musically teehhee and as for looking to the future and seeing the outcome of the Acorn events … maybe sometihng came up in your 8 ball ,and you are certainly entitled to use one .. but I see a far broader picture here …with many more consequences and outcomes …
invalidresponse 09.20.09 at 2:51 pm
and even worse is the “training of girls” that is hidden in their upbringing to except certain things…. because we all know that if you “Train a child in the way she should go, and when she is old she will not turn from it”
DancesWithPumas 09.20.09 at 2:51 pm
“doesn’t make since way.”??
LOL!!!
…some people seem to have an eloquency with words,
others, not have way.
Zee 09.20.09 at 2:52 pm
http://mediamatters.org/columns/200909180055
Media Matters: Fox News’ incomplete, misleading ACORN coverage is just nuts
September 18, 2009
If you get your news from right-wing talk radio and Fox News, you probably think America is being overrun by a hyper-corrupt organized prostitution ring headquartered in the White House.
In case you missed this story: Two conservative activists… visited a host of ACORN offices around the country posing as a pimp and prostitute…They had a surveillance camera and recorded at least four interactions with ACORN employees and claimed these employees provided them with assistance. All of the employees implicated have now been fired, and federal aid to ACORN has been cut off.
Still, the story at this point really has a lot more to do with Fox News and conservative media activism than with ACORN. The undercover videos first appeared on BigGovernment.com, founded by Andrew Breitbart, a protégé of Matt Drudge and a conservative with a long record of highly partisan and inflammatory statements. Giles, daughter of conservative blogger Doug Giles, attended the National Journalism Center in Washington, one of the many right-wing institutions conservatives have established to flood the field with young, motivated, and rabidly partisan “reporters.” For his part, O’Keefe has been a far-right activist since college.
Breitbart has developed a direct line to Glenn Beck, and so it wasn’t long before the videos were being presented breathlessly on his TV and radio programs….It was just the beginning….Radio host Jim Quinn said that we were all living in the “United States of ACORN,” and Fox News’ Megyn Kelly had Karl Rove on to talk about the tapes exposing what was now a “remarkable criminal enterprise.” The stakes couldn’t be higher. ACORN, after all, was on tap to receive “eight and a half trillion dollars of stimulus money,” according to Sean Hannity — a number that was a thousand times greater than the equally fictitious billions that Beck had accorded to the organization on behalf of the government. ACORN had suddenly ballooned from an organization which had received $53 million in federal funds over 15 years to representing 67 percent of America’s gross domestic product.
Fox was running so wild with the story that they were willing to lower their already dubious standards….Four videos were being promoted as unimpeachable proof that all of ACORN is equally corrupt — all 1,200 chapters and hundreds of ACORN employees. It was the opposite of how a credible investigation is supposed to function, in which conclusions are withheld until after all the facts are in. By comparison, here, the conservative media had a few isolated facts but were willing to extrapolate an entire thesis from them.
More important, Fox News failed to vet the tapes. This was made painfully clear with the case of the San Bernardino ACORN office…In the footage, ACORN employee Tresa Kaelke claimed that she had murdered her former husband following a period of domestic abuse. On September 15, Beck and Sean Hannity both broadcast Kaelke’s assertion….Later that night, Hannity …in a rare moment of intellectual curiosity, asked about the veracity of the murder claim. “We’re working on it,” Giles said, which was enough for Hannity. The following morning, on September 16, Fox News’ Gretchen Carlson repeated the allegation, saying, “She killed somebody? Despite this, some lawmakers want to keep funding the group.”
But Kaelke’s ex-husbands are alive. The San Bernardino Police Department confirmed this simple fact on September 15…(Kaelke was soon quoted in an ACORN press release saying that she had made the claim because she was seeking to mislead the undercover videographers, whom she was suspicious of.) In spite of these developments, the next day, Hannity was still treating the San Bernardino tape as fully credible…
In the meantime, another pivotal hole in the story began to present itself. During interviews, Breitbart, Giles, and O’Keefe had all asserted that the undercover team had never been kicked out of an ACORN office. Bertha Lewis, ACORN’s CEO and chief organizer, had already said this was a falsehood by the time a Philadelphia ACORN employee, Katherine Conway Russell, publicly claimed to have done just that, adding that she had filed a police report after a visit from the conservative pair. The police report was soon produced, raising further serious questions about the credibility of the entire ACORN exposé. It was another major side of the story that Fox News simply hadn’t cared to look into.
On the offense, Breitbart has lashed out at the mainstream media for supposedly burying the story….Their real failure was discussing the ACORN issue on Fox News’ terms and ignoring the network’s role in pushing the smears.
The New York Times covered up conservatives’ well-documented ACORN obsession in its reporting… all three network evening news broadcasts…left out substantive facts about the incidents that mitigate the accusations, exonerate ACORN employees, or undermine the credibility of the filmmakers. Moreover, none reported that Fox News, in its aggressive promotion of this story, had made false accusations…
Fox News is already teasing its next round of ACORN attacks. If credible journalists don’t stand up for their craft, then Fox News will keep enjoying its position in the driver’s seat.
kat in your hat 09.20.09 at 2:52 pm
@ #298
“An organization which, btw, doesn’t get the majority of its funding from the gummint, so all this posturing by the politicians won’t make one whit of a difference.”
Yeah, they get a certain percentage from government and the REST from stickin’ corrupt political candidates.
BillieJo 09.20.09 at 2:55 pm
(((MamaPUMA)))
I am interested in bringing down billions of tax dollars spent on voter and voter registration fraud, housing fraud, racist attitudes that harm the poor of the wrong community and every other horror that ACORN has brought to the poor communities.
This is not a distraction.
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Well said MamaPUMA and I agree 100%
murphy 09.20.09 at 2:56 pm
hey everyone — suday musings posted,
take it upstairs!
bring links!
DancesWithPumas 09.20.09 at 2:56 pm
From comments again:
“The videos are doctored, which is why they had to fire everyone. Right. Got it.”
http://biggovernment.com/2009/09/12/statement-from-bertha-lewis-acorn-chief-organizer/#more-1498
Zee 09.20.09 at 2:58 pm
There you all go. I gave you all a nice, easy condensed version to read up on. Pure logic, but if you all want to go on hyperventilating over proven rightwing falsehoods, it’s on you, now. But it completely undermines any reasoned, fact-based fraud we could focus on instead.
Giggle over your boring candied apples, but this is a complete yawner, and there isn’t a rolling eyes icon that rolls the eyes far enough up in the head to indicate how unbelievable it is that PUMAs continue to fall for this long term rightwing nonsense simply because the name “Obama” is tagged on.
invalidresponse 09.20.09 at 2:59 pm
#320
OUCH…. It’s ok, I tend to be able to get my point across, no matter how ineloquent my words may be.
Zee 09.20.09 at 2:59 pm
Still waiting, kat, for that big news story on even one voter fraud case…since it’s so “easy” and widespread, surely there is ONE case that was caught and prosecuted?
prplvette85 09.20.09 at 3:00 pm
Every fraud counts. I wonder why you think this story is table scraps. I think it exposes a culture of gaming the system while using the system’s money.
There will be prosecutions if the media follow this. FOX is likely to follow this. I am less interested in prosecuting the slime balls in the films that don’t care about pedophila and sex-slavery than I am interested in bringing down billions of tax dollars spent on voter and voter registration fraud, housing fraud, racist attitudes that harm the poor of the wrong community and every other horror that ACORN has brought to the poor communities.
This is not a distraction.
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Thank you Mama,
I agree.The more they start digging into Acorn, the more that has to be brought out. We have been researching this for over a year..they at least Fox is just now, really starting to uncover Acorn..they have much more money and resources than we do. They are not going to let this one go. And Zee, believe me there will be arrests made. The voter fraud issue is far from over.
BillieJo 09.20.09 at 3:01 pm
Zee- it’s easy to say anything on Fox is corrupt and a pack of lies, which gives MSNBC, NYTimes, CNN, NBC, ABC and the others a shield for the President. If they were doing the job of reporting the news, real journalism then life long democrats wouldn’t have to turn on Fox to hear the other side of what is going on that isn’t being told or reported.
Apples and oranges………no it’s NUTS.
DancesWithPumas 09.20.09 at 3:03 pm
invalidresponse 09.20.09 at 2:59 pm
#320
OUCH…. It’s ok, I tend to be able to get my point across, no matter how ineloquent my words may be.
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Absolutely! That’s the only reason I pasted that.
Swannie 09.20.09 at 3:03 pm
yeah because the OTHER MEDIA are so reliable you just can’t trust fox… oh please PLEASE… We have to choose where get our news.. from the media equivalents of Pee Wee Herman (MSNBC) , Carrot Top (FOX), and Foster Brooks (CNN ).
Am I surprised that this story was done amatuerishly and with the assist of the “right wrong” . we have so many other reliable alternatives .(snark) That makes this no less of a story , and the fact that congress may act and deny their funding gives me a crumb of satisfaction that their credibility is at the very least tarnished . We sure as hell won’t get the whole loaf , but starvin people take what they can .
kat in your hat 09.20.09 at 3:06 pm
@ #321
ACORN’s issue is not just “mickey mouse”–you do not seriously think it was only one voter registration fraud sheet with mickey mouse, do you? Eleven people were arrested just last week for 900 bogus reg. forms: http://www.dailybreeze.com/ci_13298937
from article: “Last year, ACORN’s national drive produced some 1.3 million voter applications.”
ACORN is not just about a “few” unrelated coincidentally morally corrupt employees all over the country who are all down with cheating taxes/ smuggling in little girls for prostitution. ACORN is complicated; they certainly didn’t do anything to not cause the housing crisis which caused the economic collapse, which in turn caused the bailouts, which made the USA in the biggest debt of this country’s existence. And they are running money laundering rackets through fronts for corrupt candidates who then get give them gov money and cash under the table, and they will get busted for it.
ACORN is going down. Good riddance. Bring in some DECENT progressive organizations to help people who need help.
Zee 09.20.09 at 3:12 pm
BONG! Go back and READ it, Swannie. I condensed it to make it EASY for you.
Fox is LYING. And even after police reports refute their claims they continue to make FALSE REPORTS.
And MediaMatters made your same point. The other media is NOT reliable because they are feebly echoing Fox and not reporting on the real story…that this rightwing obsession with ACORN is long-standing and that they are trumping up this latest nonstory.
DancesWithPumas 09.20.09 at 3:13 pm
ACORN is going down. Good riddance. Bring in some DECENT progressive organizations to help people who need help.
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Amen.
But, wait, why do we need more organizations to help those who need help? Don’t we pay taxes to take care of issues like that?
DancesWithPumas 09.20.09 at 3:14 pm
wait wait wait…
let’s not veer into the personal snark/attack crap…
invalidresponse 09.20.09 at 3:15 pm
but starvin people take what they can
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that line reminds me of a couple of lines from a favorite movie…
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here’s the quote:
In the absence of water, people will drink the sand…..
No, people don’t drink the sand because they are thirsty, they drink the sand because they don’t know the difference.
Zee 09.20.09 at 3:15 pm
Still waiting, kat, for even ONE case of that prevalent, “easy” voter fraud.
Where is it?
I had another link I was going to post the other day that was mocking this voter fraud nonsense and showed instead that Republicans have been the ones prosecuted for election fraud, including all these false attorney general firings, and fake robocalls, etc.
But I was hoping the Beck groupies would just take their rag doll and go chew on it elsewhere.
PUMAs should really beware of these faux outrages.
Zee 09.20.09 at 3:22 pm
Sorry, dances, but if someone’s gonna swoop in and just say, “oh, yeah, like the other news stations are reliable” I’m gonna say BONG! Go back and read because the media watchdog article I so KINDLY condensed for PUMAs said the same thing. The rest of the media is NOT reliable. Because they are not reporting on the orchestrated fake outrage.
That’s not an attack. It’s a demand for the common courtesy of reading the article that outlines the multiple false reports with which Fox is drumming up its faux outrage.
I don’t really care if the Beck groupies here want to snigger at me with boring asides about “candy apples” but I don’t like to see PUMA as a whole devolve into a laughing stock by following Pied Pipers with false reports.
kat in your hat 09.20.09 at 3:22 pm
#335
“But, wait, why do we need more organizations to help those who need help? Don’t we pay taxes to take care of issues like that?”–Dances
Oh shit. Yes, you are very right.
goofsmom 09.20.09 at 3:30 pm
Zee,
Not everyone who dislikes Acorn is a Beck groupie… just saying..
Zee 09.20.09 at 3:34 pm
“Every fraud counts. I wonder why you think this story is table scraps. I think it exposes a culture of gaming the system while using the system’s money.”
People. No. Obviously not one of you has read the most elementary lay-out of the fraudulent story that I provided in less than a 10 minute search. A handful of idiots does not “expose a culture.” They were fired. And the rightwing activists LIED that they were “not thrown out anywhere.” They LIED. In fact, a police report was filed against them by at least one worker, luckily, because the report proves them to be liars.
But hey, I guess since Fox News didn’t report on THAT the Beck groupies are gonna go la-la-la-la and not address it and continue to make irrelevant points.
Every fraud counts is dead wrong. Trumped up videos are the mark of every last cult. The entire 9/11 cult was suckered in by Youtubes.
A media watchdog that took the entire array of networks to task as well as the New York Times ought to be required reading here.
The 9/11 nuts are exactly what derailed the valid questions that should’ve been asked of Bush. I would think that some here might be interested in focusing on valid takedowns of Obama without joining in the distractions created to *derail* valid questioning of Zero. Zerobama’s greatest strength right now are all the distractions like the stupid “you lie!” nonstory.
This nonstory belongs with that one.
Zee 09.20.09 at 3:36 pm
Goofsmom, ACORN has been a very useful tool to derail PUMAs from the get go.
kat in your hat 09.20.09 at 3:37 pm
ACORN has been corrupt for years. Dale Rathke, Wade’s brother, embezzled 1 million dollars from ACORN:
From NYT:
“…brother, Dale Rathke, embezzled nearly $1 million from Acorn and affiliated charitable organizations in 1999 and 2000, Acorn officials said, but a small group of executives decided to keep the information from almost all of the group’s board members and not to alert law enforcement.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/09/us/09embezzle.html
Meanwhile, Obama was a LAWYER for ACORN and worked with their affiliate Project Vote, and he helped get ACORN grants from the (ayers) Woods Fund.
Forget it.
ACORN sucks.
Zee 09.20.09 at 3:46 pm
Or, to put it another way, Goofs:
You don’t want me to equate all the PUMAs who don’t like ACORN with Beck groupies. (I don’t…I equate the Beck Groupies with Pied Pipers leading PUMAs astray.)
Yet you all want me to accept that a few morons who thought those two shiny scrubbed cleancut kids could possible be a hooker and pimp with the “corruption” of an entire organization.
Plus, you all want to excuse those two same rightwing pranksters for lying. You want to excuse Fox News for repeating lies even after police reports (which they should’ve had the journalistic integrity to investigate for themselves before reporting a single thing) prove them false stories.
So, this is logic? A few stupid low-level workers = nationwide corruption, but proven, repeated falsehoods = brave, true journalism. That PUMAs should continue to support AFTER they’ve been proven false?
Zee 09.20.09 at 3:48 pm
Still waiting, kat, for ONE example of this widespread prevalent “voter fraud” that you detailed. Any proof or did you pull it out of…..um, thin air?
Zee 09.20.09 at 3:49 pm
“Forget it.
ACORN sucks.”
Translated: Never mind facts! Forget logic! It’s the GO, AntiObama team slogan! ACORN sucks! Slogan! Mantra! La la la!!
kat in your hat 09.20.09 at 4:07 pm
Zee,
ACORN is corrupt on their own–it’s not a right v. left thing. I do not WANT democrats associated with ACORN–it looks terrible. 1 million dollars embezzlement by the founders brother, and no one alerted authorities or supposedly told the majority of the board? That’s terrible. That’s just something they got caught for–how much have they actually gotten away with?
Did you know that in order for ACORN to receive government money that they had to be non-partisan? But case after case shows that they are anything but–which should disqualify them from funds alone.
I really don’t mind that you like to stand up for ACORN. Not a problem for me.
They are still in trouble, no matter what:
“Minutes from a meeting ACORN held in Los Angeles last summer reveal an organization then on the brink of financial collapse. “Currently owe over $800k to IRS” the minutes note. “Haven’t paid medical bills of over $300k. We are essentially ‘broke’ nationally and lots of offices are struggling.” http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2009/sep/20/ex-acorn-officer-embezzled/
That’s BEFORE they lost their contract with the Census and their deal to continue getting money from taxpayers–which is coming to an end. They are likely going to go bankrupt, especially after the hard-core audits coming their way.
I’m not cool with embezzlement, money laundering, voter registration fraud (and yes, I have no doubt that there was voter fraud and it is likely to come out). And I’m not cool with ACORN employees participating in tax evasion/ tax fraud and helping supposed pimp politicians with the sex trafficking of foreign little girls. At the very least, they will stop terrorizing bankers and mayors at their HOMES in order to intimidate them into giving out home loans to people who can never pay it back.
kat in your hat 09.20.09 at 4:26 pm
Eh, ACORN is being investigated in over a dozen states right now.
And I’m not sure why Florida voter registration fraud is something that is being pushed as no big deal, not when 11 ACORN employees got arrested for 900 bogus voter reg. forms just last week.
Meanwhile, out of Nevada:
“On Monday, Nevada officials charged Acorn, its regional director and its Las Vegas field director with submitting thousands of fraudulent voter registration forms last year. Larry Lomax, the registrar of voters in Las Vegas, says he believes 48% of Acorn’s forms “are clearly fraudulent.” On Thursday, prosecutors in Pittsburgh, Pa., also charged seven Acorn employees with filing hundreds of fraudulent voter registrations before last year’s general election.
Out of Philadelphia:
“Other Democrats on the ground have complaints. Fred Voight, deputy election commissioner in Philadelphia, protested after Acorn (according to the registrar of voters and his own investigation) submitted at least 1,500 fraudulent registrations last fall. “This has been going on for a number of years,” he told CNN in October. St. Louis Democrat Matthew Potter, the city’s deputy elections director, had similar complaints.”
Washington:
“Elsewhere, Washington state prosecutors fined Acorn $25,000 after several employees were convicted of voter registration fraud in 2007. The group signed a consent decree with King County (Seattle), requiring it to beef up its oversight or face criminal prosecution. In the 2008 election, Acorn’s practices led to investigations, some ongoing, in 14 other states.”
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124182750646102435.html
ACORN doesn’t “suck” because BECK told me so (LOL)…they are fundamentally corrupt.
DancesWithPumas 09.20.09 at 4:26 pm
Zee
read a years worth of links re acorn in the action center. This one exposeay not prove the entire organization I’d corrupt… But when you view a years worth of incidents , I think it justifies investigation, most of All because taxpayer funds are financing fraudulent activity.
kat in your hat 09.20.09 at 4:28 pm
Electoral Fraud:
“Also called voter fraud, the mechanisms involved include illegal voter registration, intimidation at polls and improper vote counting.” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electoral_fraud
prplvette85 09.20.09 at 4:40 pm
Zee 09.20.09 at 3:15 pm
Still waiting, kat, for even ONE case of that prevalent, “easy” voter fraud.
Where is it?
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Zee,
What are you talking about? where were you during the last election?
I don’t get it. You know there was/is voter fraud. In fact, It was right here. Right where I am. I am in the middle of it. You cannot tell me it did not exist and Acorn was not part of the point people. I was here, I lived it and still am. We were saying it long before beck, fox any media. It’s just now at least someone in the media is exposing it. I don’t give a fuck if it is a rinky dink local channel who exposes it. Just that it is period.
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