BREAD and CIRCU$E$

DancesWithPumas 09.07.09 at 10:23 am

I don’t agree that the term “whitey” is interchangable with “nigger”, except that they are both racist terms. The difference is one group has the power to oppress, while the other doesn’t
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White skin is not a requirement as a descriptor of oppression
First installment on a very quick search that is much less than exhaustive leaving out the obvious Iran, Iraq etc. and not even starting on oppression here in the US of A
Robert Mugabe Country: Zimbabwe (1980 – Present)
Muammar al-Gaddafi Country: Libya (1969-present)
Jean Bedel Bokassa Country: Central African Republic (1966-1979)
Mobutu Sese Seko Country: Zaire (1930-1997)
Idi Amin Country: Uganda (1971-1979)
Hugo Chavez, Country: Venezuela
Raul Castro Country: Cuba
Fidel Castro Country: Cuba
Ramón Pinochet Ugarte Country: Chile 1915 – 2006)
Rafael Trujillo Molina Country: Dominican Republic 1891- 1961)
Kim Jong-il, Country: North Korea
Than Shwe, Country: Burma (Myanmar)
Hu Jintao, Country: People’s Republic of China
King Abdullah, Country: Saudi Arabia
Islam Karimov, Country: Uzbekistan

Mama
I was focused on the US. Otherwise, I’d say people of color make up the majority of oppressors.
Oppression of women is global, no matter what race the pricks are.

Again, part of the reason “race” is no longer an issue I devote much, if any, energy to… especially not of I have more improtant things to devote my time to… sorting sox, picking at mosquito bite scabs, etc.

When people, including and maybe especially, people of color devote time and energy arguing against sexism and misogyny, that’s when I’ll think about race issues, maybe. I’ll probably be long dead and gone before that happens though.

Next! being the key word here.

The O administration is already appointing more “czars,” next up, manufacturing.

It’s like getting a job without having to do a job interview.
No Senate hearings, no vetting. The guy they are looking at holds another czar-ship (does he get paid double?) and has a history of cutting lucrative deals for Unions at the expense of the taxpayers.

If Valerie Jarret likes you, you’re in.

But lets all fight about political party affiliation and let them continue on their path to destroy America.
Being on the same side as our friends is more important that speaking up for what is right, no?

Being on the same side as our friends is more important that speaking up for what is right, no?
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Usually friendships develope because of agreement about what’s right, not the other way around.

Beck has been open about his own recovery. It would be wonderful if he and KO formed a “Political-Screed Anonymous” Group to deal with their own malice and misogyny. Instead these two overgrown babies will sling shit at each other and foster hatred in a dangerously divided political environment. Disgusting.

mose=more

Thanks Murphy for saying what I tried to say, but so much better.

WITCH HUNT CZAR?

Olbermann wants dirt on Beck, Ailes

With Glenn Beck getting credit for Van Jones resigning, Keith Olbermann is now asking Daily Kos readers to find out anything they can about the Fox host and others associated with him.

Tuesday we will expand this to the television audience and have a dedicated email address to accept leads, tips, contacts, on Beck, his radio producer [Stu] Burguiere, and the chief of his tv enablers, [Roger] Ailes (even though Ailes’ power was desperately undercut when he failed to pull off his phony “truce” push).

Olbermann said this action will help “save this nation from the Oligarhy of The Stupid.” Since going up yesterday, Olbermann’s diary entry had over 1,400 responses by this morning.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/michaelcalderone/0909/Olbermann_wants_dirt_on_Beck_Ailes.html

GOP Congressman: Glenn Beck Is “Trading on Fear”

The confrontation between Rep. Bob Inglis (R-S.C.) and some conservative constituents has been getting a lot of play today — Inglis told people to stop watching Glenn Beck, and he got loudly booed. The video Jonathan Martin found adds some compelling context, as Inglis explains to the crowd that Beck is making them fearful.

Inglis: They suggest that you watch Glenn Beck. Here’s my suggestion. Turn that television off when he comes on. Let me tell you why. You want to know why? He’s trading on fear. You know what? Here’s what I think. If you trade on fear, what you’re doing is, you’re not leading. You’re just following fearful people. So if you want to lead, stop being fearful.

http://washingtonindependent.com/54327/gop-congressman-glenn-beck-is-trading-on-fear
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What’s making me fearful is the Congress.

Prepared Remarks of President Barack Obama
Back to School Event
Arlington, Virginia
September 8, 2009

http://www.whitehouse.gov/MediaResources/PreparedSchoolRemarks/

Chavez minister vows more Venezuela radio closings
* Radio stations to be pulled after 34 closed in August
* Critics say hits free speech, government says democratic
* Anti-Chavez TV network in the spotlight over coup rumor

Infrastructure Minister Diosdado Cabello closed 34 radio stations in July, saying the government was “democratizing” media ownership. Critics say the move limits freedom of expression and has taken critical voices off the airwaves.

The powerful Chavez ally has threatened to close over 100 stations in total, part of a long-term campaign against private media that the government says are biased against Chavez’s government.
http://uk.reuters.com/article/idUKN0520744720090905

(((((MURPHY)))))

Well said and thank you… Sick of all these so called political pundits and their shenanigans… It’s all about them, their ratings and how loud they can yell..

Pffft… I will not be made fearful, manipulated, or have my intelligence insulted by being a party to them and their antics… BTW if ya don’t want to get hit with the sh*t they are slinging, stay out of the way…

Note for Dances and GoJoy… I’m having the same problem with the stop smoking. Do great for a while, then stuff gets to me and the gum just won’t do…

Here’s a secret that has helped in the past and continues to work for me know. If ya break down and buy some “death sticks”( ala StarWars) get a really cheap off brand. Trust me you won’t make it thru a whole smoke with out having to put it out… Nasty is the word… hope this little insight helps..

An Evening With Cindy Sheehan

http://original.antiwar.com/henderson/2009/09/06/an-evening-with-cindy-sheehan/

Attention new volunteers to Women of 2010

I did receive your mails from Dances… Have a few life issues going on right now that are distracting me… Will get back with you in the next few days and get you set up…

Thank you for volunteering and supporting this effort…

#8
Norma
I think it is officially “annoy your wife” day.
Wish someone had told me

OK, I spent wayyyyyy too much time this morning laughing at the Newborn Racists (who are comically trying to distinguish *their* disgust with Zerobama from those of us who were never fooled from the start) online. BBL!

waterpanther 09.07.09 at 2:05 pm

MamaPuma 09.07.09 at 11:59 am

White skin is not a requirement as a descriptor of oppression
First installment on a very quick search that is much less than exhaustive leaving out the obvious Iran, Iraq etc. and not even starting on oppression here in the US of A
Robert Mugabe Country: Zimbabwe (1980 – Present)
Muammar al-Gaddafi Country: Libya (1969-present)
Jean Bedel Bokassa Country: Central African Republic (1966-1979)
Mobutu Sese Seko Country: Zaire (1930-1997)
Idi Amin Country: Uganda (1971-1979)
Hugo Chavez, Country: Venezuela
Raul Castro Country: Cuba
Fidel Castro Country: Cuba
Ramón Pinochet Ugarte Country: Chile 1915 – 2006)
Rafael Trujillo Molina Country: Dominican Republic 1891- 1961)
Kim Jong-il, Country: North Korea
Than Shwe, Country: Burma (Myanmar)
Hu Jintao, Country: People’s Republic of China
King Abdullah, Country: Saudi Arabia
Islam Karimov, Country: Uzbekistan
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Six or seven of the above are (or were, in the cases of the deceased) white.

All the others are from areas that suffered vicious racial/colonial oppression from Europeans and continuing oppression from an economic and social upper class comprised of descendants of Europeans. Not that that excuses current dictators; it just puts them in perspective.

Zee,

BigCatLover and I were wondering what Astrology site you were referencing yesterday? Can you post the link please…

That speech will put the children to sleep.

prplvette85 and all PUMAs quitting with the ecigarette/electronic cigarette.

FDA warning/posted on ACS page…

http://www.cancer.org/docroot/NWS/content/NWS_1_1x_E-Cigarettes_Contain_Toxins_FDA_Analysis_Shows.asp

p.s. Gojoy, Dance…I am amongst the sinners too…I have been partaking in the smokes too….:(

I totally agree Murphy.. they belong in cages …if we have a discussion about opression , I am behind HILLARY 100%, in making womens issues front and center. If Hillary had been elected, her presidency would have been a deep influence to all of the WOMEN in the world . I am hoping I live to see the day it still happens.

If anyone slips with cigs, maybe consider getting a brand you don’t normally get, or maybe get American Spirits since it’s organic and supposedly without all the arsenic, formaldehyde, cyanide, polonium, and err… plutonium, napalm and kryptonite. (American Spirits are still not healthy, but maybe better than others.)

I read all the postings and spirited discussions yesterday and today. I feel a bit depressed and disgusted at politics. I saw a bit on Odrama’s talk on CNN and feel a need to vomit. He is so slick with his message you don’t actually taste the cyanide in the candy he hands you.

Kat in your hat,

#45 – thank you for the tip..

Prplvette85,

Wasn’t sure you knew that… good that you talked to your doc…

freddiebrown,

#47 – yep, some days between seeing what is going on in politics and dealing with the little crisis we are having, I just want to go back to bed, cover my head and not deal with the day at all…
but I get up… tell myself I am blessed for having this day… don’t read the news etc… and just put one foot in front of the other and go on…

As far as Oblowviator (sp intentional) can’t stand him, his voice, his face or hearing about him…

#50 Correction “we won’t give up,” Should be.. “we won’t give up on quitting,”

Baracko’s honeymoon is over, NYT says….

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/07/us/politics/07obama.html?_r=1&ref=politics

After reading this article I know that being the ‘president’ isn’t as much fun as just voting ‘present’ as a jr. senator and he is probably sending his hair Czar out now to get some Clairol to cover up his gray and bring back his I don’t give a shit ‘care free’ youthful looks.

Got stress?

Ain’t it fun being President Baracko?

Just think, you have another 3 years of this drama before you can sneak out of town and add it to your resume. Unless those damn American’s can find a way to toss you out sooner as the cheating fraud you are.

We won’t forget the primaries…and the lies you promised to your obots.

My take on the school speech?
Bo knows absolutely nothing about kids.. He is trying to make himself look good in front of the kids for the grownups .
And developmentally speaking, that speech is geared for 10th grade and over… minimally

freddiebrown,

Best thing to do, take Fred for a walk… smell the flowers and don’t watch TV

Swannie,

Excellent point on the comprehension level of the speech for tomorrow..

I just have to interject this point… with the state our schools are in, just exactly how many students actually comprehend at a 10th grade level?

here we are talking about these MEN

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-sudan-pants8-2009sep08,0,7542605.story

Reporting from Khartoum, Sudan, and Nairobi, Kenya – A Sudanese woman was convicted today of public indecency for wearing pants at an outdoor cafe and jailed for one month when she refused to pay a fine.

The case has stirred international outrage and spawned protests in Sudan over the Islamic-dominated government’s treatment of women.

Lubna Hussein, a journalist and former U.N. staffer based in Khartoum, the capital, could have received 40 lashes with a plastic whip under Sudan’s criminal code, which is based largely on Islamic Sharia law.

Instead, a judge ordered Hussein — who stood before the court in the same pair of pants that she wore when arrested — to pay a $200 fine. Hussein said she would refuse to pay, and was taken to a women’s prison to serve a one-month sentence.

I would have paid one of the fines for one of the other ten women who WERE flogged ….

(((Murphy)))

Great News… Waaaa Hooo !!!!

My take is that, if this school speech is a raving success (and what kid doesn’t want to help the President of the United States), he will go on to preach … I mean speech to the other kids. We all know that Odrama and his marketing machine is shoring up young minds for their own agenda but packaging it as a care package for the parents. What parent can rightly refuse to let their kids be influenced by THE PRESIDENT of the United States when he is asking them for help. The ones that see through him know better and we better say something before we wonder one fine day, what happened to our kids who got brain washed by the slick machine. It would be too late. Case in point, Sharia law anyone? It was harmless to begin with, dontcha know.

Readin’ over at Cinie’s (a place I go when I especially need a humorist pick-me-up and a new perspective…thank you very much Cinie)

and one of her paragraphs played heavy on my brain, again…..

…Needless to say, this sort of leadership-while-blindfolded is not very effective, and, contrary to manufactured public opinion and contrived conventional wisdom, had nothing to do with his successful election. Let’s face it, in any other year, had he been pitted against a male candidate as formidable as Hillary Clinton in the primaries, or, had the outgoing president been only slightly more popular than a rash, or, had the Republicans not deliberately nominated their weakest candidate, and then refused to support him, or turn out and vote for him, Barack Obama would have had trouble qualifying as an also-ran, and instead of being Bah!Rock Whosayin’ YoMama, would just have been Bah!Rock Who?

http://cinie.wordpress.com/2009/09/06/leading-the-follower/

My question for the past year has been this:

- Why did the Republican’s elect their weakest candidate

- And then, refuse to support him?

Did they want Baracko to win?

BTW, I agree that McCain was their weakest candidate not because McCain was a weak man, but because he did not represent the right wing of the Rep party, he is more of a centralist conservative and Sarah was put in to swoop up the disenfranchised Hillary supporters and play to the religious right.
Maybe they actually thought the libs were running two centralists and they put in their one semi-centralist because they thought the country was headed in that direction ???????????

Cinie-
Yup, the $64k question, follow the money? Financial crisis hit just before the election in the stock market…bank bailouts………….could it have been controlled from a higher source? Nothing else makes any sense to me…

Will check out your link…

News just showed a clip of the fraud speaking to all the union crooks (I used to belong to unions) – just grinnin’ from ear to ear – looks more like alfred e neuman than ever before – fuckin’ fraud is still campaigning – that’s the only thing he knows how to do – well that and play with all the toys that come with being President – only thing is the fuctard doesn’t have is the first clue about actually being the President – goddamm – we coulda- no shoulda had Hillary – the loathesome POS needs to go – anywhere but here……….

Deb55, I haven’t put the BC question away…
Am I a birther, hell of an expression I wouldn’t hang my hat on.
Is Baracko above the law, Hell no! Is he treated like he is above the law, Hell yes.
The guy is a fraud puppet, so showing his official birth certificate, not the counterfeit one he posted on his website…would just put to bed one fraudulent claim I have against him…JUST ONE.

all the money is gatgering
you have to want to know why
just ask youself
why do they want the money
that is the question

Billiejo

More food for thought….why did the left oppose the war and make halliburton the all evil..for Soros to make money?

He bought all of those shares when the price fell and made Millions if not Billions for the DNC.

Sometimes I feel that we were all used..and used well to serve their purpose.

http://blog.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2007/02/27/soros_buys_halliburton

Deb55

More food for thought….why did the left oppose the war
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I’m not sure about the extent of Soros with his dirty fingers in the economic pie and manipulating the election, but why did the left oppose the war? Because there shouldn’t have been a WAR, we are against Bin Laden bringing down the Twin Towers, not starting a war with Sadam and his thugs. Starting a war with two countries when Bin Laden is hiding out in the border of Pakistan isn’t okay with me.
We have been wasting our money on two wars that we shouldn’t be in.

Michael Moore has lost all his credibility in my book…he drank the kool-aid.

Good piece by Cinie:
We’re All Commies
http://cinie.wordpress.com/2009/09/07/were-all-commies/#comments

Dances,

#85 – thanks for posting the link to Cinie’s article. Enjoyed it and am looking for one of the nuclear fallout protecting desks too…

Dances,

LOL… I lived near a former SAC AB and when we had drills, it was for the whole town… Air sirens went off, the whole town participated in the drill.

Trust me, we knew even in the first grade that, the desk above us wasn’t going to be a bit of good. I would have preferred the paper plate…

And at night, the city would blare air raid sirens and we either had to turn off all the lights or pull down our window shades. My brother and I used to peek… and watch the searchlights scan the night sky. We wanted to make sure our family would be forewarned and that the searchers didnt miss anything.

Dances,

We never had the night alerts… thank goodness.

Yes, you are right… broad daylight and no warning… 8 years have passed since then. Honestly, I don’t feel the least bit safer either. Anxious much… yep, still am..

I was at summer camp during the Cuban Missile Crisis… no access to daily mainstream news… just that I recall the counselors whispering and looking very grave.

One sunny quiet afternoon while I was in one of the large lounges, a jet broke the sound barrier… I’d never heard that sound before and thought for sure it was a bomb. I remember taking only one leap and sliding under furniture some 25 feet away. I must have been in shock, because I don’t know how many other leaps were involved in getting me get me that far away.

Sorta like when I was 3 and stuck a bobby pin in an electric outlet and becoming aware 3 feet away from where I started.

OMG Dances I stuck a bobbie pin in an electrical outlet too. Shocked the shit out of me. To this day I am very afraid of electricity.. I won’t even change a light bulb. LOL

OT: male violence – woman lynching

Wisconsin police arrest suspected serial killer who murdered over a period of 21 years: http://news.bnonews.com/jh9f

“Walter E. Ellis, a 49-year-old man from Milwaukee, was arrested after his DNA was found on the bodies of nine women, eight of them prostitutes and one girl who was a runaway. The homicides occurred between 1986 and 2007 on Milwaukee’s north side.”

waterpanther 09.07.09 at 9:21 pm

Attempted woman lynching

Gardener threatens to “f*ck the sh*t” out of two Muslim women and cut them in pieces, attempts to run over them:

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/regional/li_hate_rant_vs_muslim_duo_5tPsV0AkvVzqc4ZpqVRjQO

Kat in your hat,

#99 – Didn’t find that link off topic at all… One less predator off the streets is very on topic…

Joe Cannon has excellent artwork up.

Kat,

The detectives did a wonderful job… the article I read on it also said they had another 20 cold cases they had been doing DNA testing on and had tied some of them to individuals that were already in prison for similar crimes.

I think it is great that as DNA testing improves more and more of these killers get hit with the Karma from all their past crimes…

Oh wait, about to settle in. Just wanted to say that I am thinking about you goofsmom, you said there are things going on right now.

Also, clintondemocrat!–if you are out there… I’ve read your recent comments and I’ll be sending you positive vibes. It’s been a hard week for you…exposed to too many mean people recently. I’m sorry.

Here maybe this can help a little?

from blog zenhabits:
All the Advice on Happiness You’ll Ever Need in One Post: http://tinyurl.com/ktggab

g’night again. xo

(((Kat in your Hat)))

Thank you for the good thoughts…

freddiebrown,

That sounds wonderful, walking the waterfront with Freddie…

Today was a nice day… thank you for asking… Yep, tomorrow is another day…

Good evening PUMAs… I’ve continued to read comments on here…Thank You all very very very much…

Here is the shocker. Here is the thing I’m so disgusted by… The thing I cannot believe, perhaps you all do…

I’ve been accused of being the instigator and perpetrator. I instigated by raising my voice and perpetrated by saying “What else do you have to say to me Dan (insert last name)” I perpetuated it with my body language and I was told that I shoudl have taken steps to diffuse it.

This was told to me by both of the women who were in the room.

Perhaps you all were right from the beginning and have been right all along that you can’t reform the Democratic Party and you can’t save it and there is no voice left, there is no space for the voice left for the people who were silenced last year…

What else was I supposed to do? Sit there? NO! Walk out? No! Say, can’t we all just get along? (that one has been used with me tonight by people who were there) NO! I did the only thing I could do. I shut up. I shut up and I stood up and I stared at that man who accosted me with every vulgar thing he could think of…

The reality is: if I were 150 pounds instead of 250 pounds, it wouldn’t have been my fault. If I were blonde, it probably wouldn’t have been my fault. If I’d FUCKING CAMPAIGNED FOR OBAMA, it wouldn’t have been my fault. If I’d diffused it so that it wouldn’t have been put on display to make those women see hear and feel, then it wouldn’t have been my fault…. FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK

#35 goofs and BCL, it was not I who used to post this link all the time…I forget which PUMA did, forgive me…I get nyms mixed up.

The site is AstrologyZone by Susan Miller…the PUMA who used to post it mistook me because once I asked her not to post the entire long warning during the day, as opposed to a link and excerpt, perhaps better suited for night-time chat.

Anyway…Mercury retrograde…luckily I am just taking classes and cleaning up most of this month…

#97 FL Barbara…can’t remember what I stuck in an electrical outlet. I remember the shock, tho.

I’m more afraid of gas than electricity, tho. I’ve seen a gas leak level a building…and if you have a good sense of smell, you will note gas leaks everywhere. In Boston/Cambridge, at least, they admit there are more than they can follow up on.

Zee,

Thank you for posting that… I’ll go look up the link.

One more note…in the grocery store today I saw the cutest couple…plump, and shopping in the ice cream aisle, debating the merits of the different ice creams.

They ended up behind me in the checkout line, and I saw they had not made a definitive choice….each got their own half gallon! Haha! Heartwarming, or what?

BillieJo,
I don’t know… Why do I need them. I think I feel I’ve put so much of myself into this party into the things I feel passionate about and I hate I hate I hate being run off.

I resigned last year but I was always sort of in sight… There is the fighter in me that god damn it, I don’t I refuse to be run off. There is the other part of me, LOL, the logical part of me that is like, fuck this is E. Tennessee and no one who is serious in politics, no one who really and I mean really is at the table doing the stuff is in the county party…

I guess I thought I guess I believed that if they just got to know me, if we could just work together I could bridge or forge something with the Obamites. I believed that we could forge ahead as DEMOCRATS. But they aren’t Democrats. They’re Obamites. I can’t STAND those fucking healthcare calls they’re doing because it’s ALL about making Obama look good. it isn’t about policy or about people who need care, ITS ABOUT OBAMA.

FUCKING OFA!!! God damn it to hell, I’ve yet to understand why OFA exists. It exists as the body of the DNC. There is no Democratic Party anymore. Part of me wants to be there to hold on to the corner of Democrat land to make a stand, a last stand to hold on to our party that was our party for the people

Im sick of the koolaide comments every day. “Republicans are doing these tactics because they hate Obama, personally and they’re racist” “It’s different because it’s Obama”

It’s not fucking different because it’s Obama. I had to get past smouldering John Kerry signs that had been stolen, gasoline poured them and set on fire to get into our headquarters one morning in 2004.

Im tired of the belittling of my experience because it’s Pre-Obama. In 2004, I was almost irrelevant because I was “new” in 2009, I’m irrelevant because I’m “old” and I’ve never fit anywhere except on the GOD DAMNED sidewalk fucking doing fieldwork for candidates… DAMN IT!!!!!!!!!!!

I don’t know why, right now…. I’ve never tried harder in my life to forge relationships on common ground only to find that apparently there is no common ground because it’s about Obama and not party

y’all know what else. Damn him and his damn speech in a few hours. I read that piece of political pandering crap today. It’s a campaign speech to go with the consumate campaigner who doesn’t have a freaking clue how to govern. I wouldn’t have wanted to watch W speak because his would have likely been something about staying in school to keep the terrorists out and this one, Obama goes on about growing up in Indonesia and no father and blah blah blah… it’s a GD piece of political propoganda and if I had a child, I would NOT let them go to school tomorrow and I would watch it first and then decide if I would watch PARTS of it with them…. there is one paragraph about personal responsibility

Let us NOT forget, the damn speech is made from freaking Virginia, home of the 2009 Gubernatoral (aka Referendum on Obama) Race.

It makes me freaking P U K E

Can anyone tell me how to get all these strangers off my facebook acct?
O feel like a freaking voyeur reading about people I don’t even know.
Thanks in advance.

Goodnight Pumas
Putting off going to sleep is not going to put off the dreaded Monday.

Helllllllllllloooooooooooooo

Rasmussen is -13
whoooooooooooot
Happy -13 day

Following Ban on Burqa and Headscarf by Colleges in Southern India, Indian Islamic Scholar Says: ‘The Burqa is Not a Part of Islam – It Is a Part of Culture’

http://www.memri.org/bin/latestnews.cgi?ID=SD252209