From ABC’s The Note:
“Yesterday, White House director of new media Macon Phillips wrote a blog post urging readers to flag questionable claims about health care proposals.
[Phillips wrote], ‘There is a lot of disinformation about health insurance reform out there, spanning from control of personal finances to end of life care. These rumors often travel just below the surface via chain emails or through casual conversation. Since we can’t keep track of all of them here at the White House, we’re asking for your help. If you get an email or see something on the web about health insurance reform that seems fishy, send it to flag@whitehouse.gov.’”
“Since we can’t keep track of all of them here at the White House.” ???? Holy smokes, Pumas. This is baaad. Remember the Truth Squads in Missouri? This is waay worse than that.
From Zero Hedge (yep, even the Finance/Econ Blogs are picking up this story:
“Zero Hedge makes it easy for all law and constitution abiding citizens to rat on anyone and anything they think may be fishy by clicking here and notifying your favorite White House 1984 inspector. And please, 89.2% $50MM+ trading days in a quarter does not qualify as “fishy”, merely statistically impossible.”
(Not sure what the math thingies at the end of that are, but DO click on the LINK. The comments over there are pretty damn bracing.)
Read the full text of Cornyn’s letter HERE. It’s good. Here’re some snippets:
“Dear President Obama,
I write to express my concern about a new White House program to monitor American citizens’ speech opposing your health care policies, and to seek your assurances that this program is being carried out in a manner consistent with the First Amendment and America’s tradition of free speech and public discourse.
Yesterday, in an official White House release entitled “Facts are Stubborn Things,” the White House Director of New Media, Macon Phillips, asserted that there was “a lot of disinformation out there,” and encouraged citizens to report “fishy” speech opposing your health care policies to the White House. Phillips specifically targeted private, unpublished, even casual speech, writing that “rumors often travel just below the surface via chain emails or through casual conversation.” Phillips wrote “If you get an email or see something on the web about health insurance reform that seems fishy, send it to flag@whitehouse.gov.”
I am not aware of any precedent for a President asking American citizens to report their fellow citizens to the White House for pure political speech that is deemed “fishy” or otherwise inimical to the White House’s political interests.
By requesting that citizens send “fishy” emails to the White House, it is inevitable that the names, email addresses, IP addresses, and private speech of U.S. citizens will be reported to the White House. You should not be surprised that these actions taken by your White House staff raise the specter of a data collection program. As Congress debates health care reform and other critical policy matters, citizen engagement must not be chilled by fear of government monitoring the exercise of free speech rights.”
The big news sites have picked up this story, so I wonder if Gibbs or obama will be forced to respond publicly. Anyone know whether if you’re a Senator and you write a letter to the president he has to, you know, answer the letter?
Either way, this calls for action.
* * * * * TODAY’S PROWL * * * * *
- Send an email to Macon Phillips, aka Minister of Information, at flag@whitehouse.gov
- Copy these emails into the BCC of your email: prowl@pumapac.org, hardball@msnbc.com, caffertyfile@cnn.com, comments@mclaughlin.com, Cavuto@foxnews.com, LouDobbs@cnn.com, hemmer@foxnews.com, headlinenews@cnn.com, Hannity@foxnews.com, gretawire@fox.com, charlierose@pbs.org
- Encourage your friends, family, and co-workers to send an email.
Use this email, or edit it as you see fit. Be sure to include the text of the First Amendment in your email. Short, sweet, and to the point.
Dear White House Minister of Information,
I am writing as a very concerned American citizen. I am also a member of Puma PAC, People United Means Action (http://pumapac.org). After reading about your program encouraging Americans to report instances of “fishy” speech by their sister and fellow Americans, we realized you had perhaps forgotten to read this before you got to the White House:
The First Amendment to the United States Constitution
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.Please brush up on the United States Constitution. It’s a rather important document, and it is especially crucial that people in your line of work are familiar with it.
Sincerely,
Your Name and State
Puma PAC Member* * * * * * * * * *
Jeez. This is so unbelievable it’s almost impossible to believe.
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murphy 08.06.09 at 11:08 am
What ,iq said,
“Obamacare is in deep doo-doo because the Republicans seem to have finally found their mojo again. If there is one thing those GOPers are good at it’s being against stuff. That’s okay with me, because Obamacare IS deep doo-doo. A big steaming pile of it.
Obamacare is better off dead. Kill it, start over and this time do it right.
Teh Precious needs health care reform as badly as we do, but he only needs something he can call reform – we need the real deal. If Obamacare 1.0 goes down in flames he’ll have to come up with a better plan of he’ll go down in flames with it.”
http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2009/08/06/a-pox-on-both-their-houses/
murphy 08.06.09 at 11:11 am
I guess this counts as a “fishy” internet comment, but it came from the New York Times. Quick! Somebody call the White House and tell Macon Phillips that the NYT is saying mean things about obama care!
“WASHINGTON — Pressed by industry lobbyists, White House officials on Wednesday assured drug makers that the administration stood by a behind-the-scenes deal to block any Congressional effort to extract cost savings from them beyond an agreed-upon $80 billion.
un-freaking-believable.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/06/health/policy/06insure.html?_r=1&hp
Drug industry lobbyists reacted with alarm this week to a House health care overhaul measure that would allow the government to negotiate drug prices and demand additional rebates from drug manufacturers.”
murphy 08.06.09 at 11:17 am
more good stuff:
“Get a clue, guys. You took our votes and forced Obama down our throats in your primary rape fantasy and we’re not ever going to forget it. He turned out to be exactly what we said he was: an overly ambitious, shmoozing, political opportunist without a political philosophy, experience and hard earned relationships necessary to get things done. There’s no 11 dimensional chess going on here. Just a bunch of jerks who thought they could write off the votes of millions of people, many of them women, and get away with it. Go ahead and laugh. You’ll never get a penny from me. And you may never get my vote again. You don’t have to be a crazy nutcase birther to know the devils by the look in their eyes.”
Riverdaughter this morning.
http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2009/08/06/thursday-morning-news-and-note-to-the-dscc/
NikkisMom 08.06.09 at 11:18 am
Murphy, the Senate has cut some deals in their healthcare plan too.
http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/health/drugs/2009-07-28-biologics_N.htm
WASHINGTON — Lawmakers who count pharmaceutical companies among their biggest contributors lead the opposition to a health care proposal that would cut costs by allowing generic drugs to compete sooner with pricey biotechnology drugs, campaign-finance records show.
Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, has helped lead Senate efforts to give drug companies 12 years of exclusive rights to sell biotech drugs, rather than seven as proposed by President Obama. Hatch has received nearly $1.3 million from the employees and political action committees of drug and health products companies since 1989, making the industry his largest contributor, according to data compiled by the non-partisan Center for Responsive Politics.
In the House, Rep. Anna Eshoo, D-Calif., whose district is home to dozens of biotech companies, is sponsoring a similar measure. Drug company employees and political action committees have donated $645,000 since 1992 to Eshoo — second only to the computer and Internet industry.
This year, she is the biggest recipient of pharmaceutical money in the House, the data show.
FIND MORE STORIES IN: Barack Obama | Orrin Hatch | Mike Enzi | Anna Eshoo
Hatch and Eshoo say the donations have no bearing on policy decisions.
“I’ve voted against them, and I have been with them,” Eshoo said of drug companies. In this case, she said, the 12 years are needed to help companies recoup their investments. Other drugs have five years of exclusivity.
Industries donate “because they agree with the principles espoused by the candidate,” Hatch said in an e-mail. ” I don’t believe they are trying to influence candidate’s decisions.”
The debate is part of a massive health care overhaul that is Obama’s top domestic priority — and comes as lawmakers look to cut federal spending to pay the estimated $1 trillion price tag.
There is no process for the Food and Drug Administration to approve generic versions of so-called biologic drugs. The complex drugs, made from living cells, are costly: A year’s supply of breast cancer drug Herceptin runs $48,000, the Federal Trade Commission says.
CJK 08.06.09 at 11:21 am
Wow, Murphy, I just posted the following on the previous thread! Talk about ESP or mental telepathy or whatever!
CJK 08.06.09 at 11:17 am
Good morning PUMAs! I just want to say thank you and a big approving PUMA roar to Murphy and HP for standing strong for the First Amendment!
My disgust over the ‘ideological cleansing’ that, IMO, has consumed way too much time/space/energy in the rest of the PUMAsphere is the reason I chose PUMA PAC to begin with. What occurs all too frequently on other blogs is a time-wasting pissing contest to prove who’s the most ‘liberal.’ We see where that sort of groupthink, groupspeak has led this country — the rotten outcome of such rotten thinking is sitting in the Oval Office. Anyone who does the hard critical thinking work to research, read, examine, re-examine, consider,
form their own individual conclusions and speak out accordingly about any matter is systematically drummed off the ‘purist liberal’ PUMA blogs for precisely that ‘crime’ — ‘ideological impurity.’ Such blogs attach an array of labels to the ‘ideological criminal’ (the very same tactic now being used by the DNC and WH to combat those speaking out against HR3200): Republican, rabid, rightwing, wackadoo, extremist, orchestrated, mob, disinformation, fishy, etc., etc. All simply because there are those who, by virtue of their own research and critical thinking ability, dare to disagree! News flash: Democracy is all about daring to disagree! In fact, I want a t-shirt that says ‘Ideologically impure and damn proud of it,’ and on the back ‘Democracy means daring to disagree, PUMAs roar, PUMAs rock!’
Wake up everyone! For more than a year and a half, I’ve been trying to point out that our Declaration of Independence, Constitution, Bill of Rights are under more serious attack than ever. It really doesn’t much matter what our own specific ‘hot button issue’ may be. If we lose our individual freedoms, none of the rest of it is going to matter! If we want to preserve the principles of individual liberty on which America was founded, we all (no matter what party or what label any of us may choose/not choose for ourselves, if any) must work together. Divide and conquer has long been the successful battle strategy of the despot.
Thanks for listening, and thanks again to Murphy and HP. Continue to stand strong and roar your truth!
NikkisMom 08.06.09 at 11:28 am
Obama doesn’t just want your emails, he wants your IP address too
http://www.redstate.com/erick/2009/08/05/john-cornyn-takes-on-obamas-flagwhitehousegov-program-but-wait-theres-more-with-the-ntia/
adding on to Mr. Cornyn’s letter,
NikkisMom 08.06.09 at 11:35 am
Right on cue…..
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidential/Obamas-dissident-database-could-be-secret—-and-permanent-52571822.html
Senate Judiciary Committee lawyers studying the proposal say that although there is no absolutely settled law on the matter, the White House plan is likely not covered by the Privacy Act, which prohibits government agencies from keeping any records “describing how any individual exercises rights guaranteed by the First Amendment unless expressly authorized by statute or by the individual about whom the record is maintained.” Therefore, it appears the White House can legally keep records of the emails and other communications it receives in response to Phillips’ request.
Those lawyers also point out that the White House is not covered by the Freedom of Information Act, which means it would not have to release any information on the plan to members of the public who make a request.
In addition, the lawyers say the collected emails likely will be covered by the Presidential Records Act, which requires the White House to preserve and maintain its records for permanent storage in a government database. Phillips’ request suggests that whatever information the White House receives on health-care reform “disinformation” will be used to further the goal of passing a national health-care makeover, which is, of course, one of the president’s main policy initiatives. Such material, and whatever the White House does with it, would qualify as presidential records. Only after more than a decade would such records be publicly available.
“So the White House, whether by design or accident, has requested information from the public that will become ‘records’ under the Presidential Records Act, yet would be impermissible for any government to otherwise collect under the Privacy Act,” writes one Judiciary Committee source. “Where were the lawyers in all of this? What is their legal basis for authorizing the collection of these records?”
murphy 08.06.09 at 11:40 am
Prowl done.
quick and easy!
HopePuma 08.06.09 at 11:42 am
I posted this idea downstairs, and am saying it again. I never dreamed I would be seeing the kinds of things that area happening in America today. This taking of our privacy and our freedom of speech is unprecedented in U.S. History. The taking of our tax money (and more, by putting our country deep in debt) in order to give money to the fatcats of businesses so they can give it out in huge bonuses, and the cap’n trade bill are unbelievable, and this boondoggle of a so-called “heathcare” bill takes the cake! I am NOT “praising” GWB by saying this, but this is far far worse than anything I ever imagined during the past 8 years. I am saying this deadly quicksand of The One and his Greek Chorus behind him in Congress are far more dangerous to us, and to the country that we love, than the quagmire that we had the past 8 years. I hope and pray they can’t get away with what they are doing. This is only 8 months- less than 8 months! How can we ever survive 4 full years? ..or 8? Think about it. No, GWB was bad during those 8 years; but these 7 1/2 months of Obama are already far far worse, with another almost 3 1/2 years to come!
HopePuma 08.06.09 at 11:44 am
That said, I’m on my way to work for the day. I need to get to work to pay my portion of the trillions of dollars Obama etal are planning on spending!
CJK 08.06.09 at 11:47 am
“Obamacare is better off dead. Kill it, start over and this time do it right.” Murphy.
Truer words were never spoken, Murphy.
My question is: Aside from BO’s quite transparent need for a big victory, why, now, suddenly, must we rush to make sure that everyone (citizen and non-citizen) has health insurance — now, during the deepest economic recession/depression in 60 years???!!! This country is already trillions of dollars in debt, debt with which our children, grandchildren, etc.,will be burdened for years to come. And that’s just to cover the funds this power-mad BO WH and Congress have given away to Wall St. and their political cronies. Before we allow them to put us even further in debt by throwing $1.3 trillion at another complex problem that can’t be solved with a trifling trillion dollars, yet another BO ‘czar’ and yet another monstrous, ineffective government bureaucracy, can we not FIRST try to get this country back on its feet economically??? Can we not FIRST require that our members of Congress hold public meetings with a diverse spectrum of the actual constituents in their districts across this country to determine what type of healthcare reform is actually needed, then compile the results of those meetings and put together common sense legislation to make sure that those needs are met??? Why would Americans want a so-called ‘healthcare reform’ bill that has been crafted based on the so-called ‘research’ of health insurance companies, the most rapacious handful of whom will be the ones the government will tap to actually adminster its national health insurance program under the monstrous government bureaucracy, with forced contributions from every American taxpayer???
HR3200 is NOT about ‘healthcare reform,’ it is about letting a handful of powerful insurance companies (United Health Group, Wellpoint, Aetna, Humana, Cigna, et al) monopolize the health insurance industry by setting up a monstrous government bureaucracy that they will essentially run, making huge profits by 1) draconian cutbacks on healthcare services, jobs, facilities, equipment; 2) forcing people to participate in the government insurance plan – all funded with American citizens’ hard-earned tax dollars; and 3) allowing the government and a handful of powerful insurance companies to make every healthcare decision, entirely ignoring the individual and her/his needs/wishes. HR3200 is a violation of every American’s fundamental, Constitutional right to privacy in all healthcare decisions.
If this sounds like rightwing talking points to anyone, so be it. Call out the ‘ideological purity’ police. This bill is pure BO corporatist-control-with-a-PR-nod-to-the-impoverished bullshit, and anyone who’s read any part of it knows it.
murphy 08.06.09 at 12:00 pm
speaking of mysteries,
who IS Gabriel’s Fire?
Shadowfax 08.06.09 at 12:08 pm
Oh yuck, the Joker’s ugly face is back at the top of the thread…
H-i-l-l-a-r-y!!!!
#51 at the bottom of the stairs, CJK I agree with you 100% and it was a great post.
Good morning PUMAs…mornin’ Murph. (haven’t read this thread yet)
simofish 08.06.09 at 12:12 pm
prowl done — this sort of reminds me of McCarthy — tell on your neighbors — I am sure I will be rounded up at some point — I just hope they don’t George Orwell me — would not be good !!
Back to work and the occasional lurk
LJSNAustin 08.06.09 at 12:15 pm
CJK #11, right on!
waterpanther 08.06.09 at 12:18 pm
HopePuma 08.06.09 at 11:42 am
This taking of our privacy and our freedom of speech is unprecedented in U.S. History. . . . this is far far worse than anything I ever imagined during the past 8 years.
_______________________________________________________
But it’s exactly what the Bush administration did imagine and was forced to back away from. Remember TIA–”Total Information Awareness,” complete with a logo of the all-seeing eye above the pyramid? Now we’ve got Barack W. Obush instead of George W., but it’s beginning to look as if Poindexter is still secreted somewhere in the White House basement.
CJK 08.06.09 at 11:47 am
Can we not FIRST require that our members of Congress hold public meetings with a diverse spectrum of the actual constituents in their districts across this country to determine what type of healthcare reform is actually needed, then compile the results of those meetings and put together common sense legislation to make sure that those needs are met?
___________________________________________________________
You mean engage in actual representative democracy? Like, ask the people what they want and need?
Be assured that’s going straight into the FISH bowl–His Majesty will have none of it.
CJK 08.06.09 at 12:19 pm
murphy 08.06.09 at 12:00 pm
Hey, Murphy! Gabriel’s Fire is a TV series and the title of at least a couple of books. Gabriel is also a pretty powerful angel…Guess your question is rhetorical?
scarlet 08.06.09 at 12:21 pm
HEALTH CARE FOR AMERICA NOW, whose members include ACORN, AFL-CIO, Campaign for America’s Future, the Center for American Progress, MoveOn.org, the NAACP, and the Service Employees International Union have training instructions for those who oppose HR 3200, the health care bill.
They say:
Train yourself to combat right-wing tactics
Interrupt them when they get disruptive and refocus the meeting: Line up a number of people who feel comfortable interrupting and prepare them with statements like:
http://healthcareforamericanow.org/site/fight
Health Care for America Now! budgets $2.5 million to push ObamaCare in August
LJSNAustin 08.06.09 at 12:24 pm
Prowl completed in record time.
scarlet 08.06.09 at 12:24 pm
Tempers flare in South Florida over healthcare overhaul
A raucous group of about 100 protesters confronted staffers of U.S. Rep. Ron Klein, expressing their displeasure with the healthcare overhaul bills being considered in Congress.
Though only a handful of constituents typically show up at the Lighthouse Point public library once a month with questions for U.S. Rep. Ron Klein’s staffers — often questions about Social Security checks or passport applications — this time about 100 people packed the room for two hours.
Klein plans to hold a healthcare forum in his district this month — via telephone.
He brushed off suggestions that he is trying to duck face-to-face encounters.
http://www.miamiherald.com/news/top-stories/v-fullstory/story/1173602.html
CJK 08.06.09 at 12:27 pm
BO bullshit alert — Just saw on Fox that the Fraud is having closed-door meetings re ‘healthcare reform’ at the WH with a ‘gang of 6′ Senators — 3 Dems and 3 Repubs. Every time there’s a ‘closed-door meeting at the WH,’ these hand-wringing wimps emerge looking like whipped dogs. What the hell kind of mind-bending, arm-twisting tactics does the ‘pretender in chief’ use on these people??? Is he telling them the U.S. will be immediately attacked by some as-yet-undisclosed brand of frothing-mouthed, wild-eyed, armed barbarian insurgents if they don’t pass every friggin’ piece of bullshit legislation he tries to foist off on them and us??? Sorry for the rant…
CJK 08.06.09 at 12:30 pm
P.S. ‘frothing-mouthed, wild-eyed, armed barbarian insurgents,’ aka BO’s Chicago machine thugs.Sorry again…I’m sure I’m in the ‘fish’ bowl now…
persephone 08.06.09 at 12:31 pm
Prowl done.
Come and get me, you f*ckers.
“The cause of freedom is not the cause of a race or a sect, a party or a class – it is the cause of humankind, the very birthright of humanity.”
-Anna Julia Cooper
HP Boston 08.06.09 at 12:38 pm
persephone 08.06.09 at 12:31 pm
Prowl done.
Come and get me, you f*ckers.
“The cause of freedom is not the cause of a race or a sect, a party or a class – it is the cause of humankind, the very birthright of humanity.”
-Anna Julia Cooper
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PERS!!
I don’t know how to choose the part I love the most of your eloquent post!
Mmmmm I pick BOTH!!!
Anna Julia Cooper..she rocks!
CJK 08.06.09 at 12:40 pm
Oh, just coincidentally, the Senate is now in final deliberation re the Sotomayor confirmation. Why the hell do they wait until the last possible moment (and why does BO pull key Senators out of such key deliberations, hmmmm…) to hold such important discussions/votes???
Oh, I forgot, this is Thursday, their final chance to grab the media spotlight before they all go on vacation, er recess. Scumbags. IMO, American taxpayers would be ahead if BO and Congress all stayed on vacation…
vwade 08.06.09 at 12:40 pm
Did my prowl!
HP Boston 08.06.09 at 12:41 pm
Not to surprise everyone but the fuckers have us all by the neck…..I feel them squeezing tighter everyday!
CJK 08.06.09 at 12:42 pm
persephone 08.06.09 at 12:31 pm
Great comment, pers! How come you always say it best, with so few words? I need lessons…
Flasunshiner 08.06.09 at 12:43 pm
Prowled!
HP Boston 08.06.09 at 12:43 pm
CJK 08.06.09 at 12:40 pm
Oh, just coincidentally, the Senate is now in final deliberation re the Sotomayor confirmation. Why the hell do they wait until the last possible moment (and why does BO pull key Senators out of such key deliberations, hmmmm…) to hold such important discussions/votes???
Oh, I forgot, this is Thursday, their final chance to grab the media spotlight before they all go on vacation, er recess. Scumbags. IMO, American taxpayers would be ahead if BO and Congress all stayed on vacation…
====================================
VACATION MY ASS! THROW THE BUMS OUT!!!!!
CJK 08.06.09 at 12:45 pm
HP Boston 08.06.09 at 12:43 pm
If they don’t return from ‘vacation,’ couldn’t we recall/impeach every last, lame one of them? Either way, yep, throw the bums out!
Susie1945 08.06.09 at 12:51 pm
HI Murphy – insert in today’s paper – 31st Annual Irish of Minnesota happening Fri – Sun in St. Paul (lots of Irish including me in this area) but what caught my eye was this:
‘Making its first appearance at Irish Fair Friday night will be the incredibly popular band Dropkick Murphys playing a unique blend of traditional Irish music spiked with punk rock.’
attached is link to one of their videos:
http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=dropkick+murphys+videos&docid=986050593151&FORM=VIRE8#
any relation??????
Shadowfax 08.06.09 at 1:05 pm
Fishy is done!
sistermoon3 08.06.09 at 1:12 pm
“The cause of freedom is not the cause of a race or a sect, a party or a class – it is the cause of humankind, the very birthright of humanity.”
-Anna Julia Cooper
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speaking of fishy, and birthrights, hey white house, stop the bullshit on obama being allowed to close all documents about his school days from K-12, college records, harvard records, and just for the record an actual live birth certificate and maybe then we could actually trust this freaking, where the hell did he come from president.
murphy 08.06.09 at 1:18 pm
susie, sadly no. though they are a fav band of mine and local. My cousin is buddies with the lead singer.
love them.
persephone 08.06.09 at 1:26 pm
from the *what the f*ck* files:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,537261,00.html
DancesWithPumas 08.06.09 at 1:27 pm
All pro-obamacare articles and email sound fishy to me. I’ll be forwarding links and any email I receive from selected officials to Comrade Obama Inc.
Puma-SF 08.06.09 at 1:29 pm
You’re right, simo. It reeks of McCarthyism. Been thinking that since the primaries and as Murphy points out the “Truth Squads”. This is unbelievable. 2 plus 2 still equals 4, right?
simofish 08.06.09 at 1:32 pm
#36 — yeah, WTF is right — what’s next? Blow jobs?
simofish 08.06.09 at 1:33 pm
Puma SF — you have mail and I need tomatoes
alphabeach 08.06.09 at 1:36 pm
thanks for the prowl, murphy.
i just could not believe this and wanted to take action…will do this today.
Shadowfax 08.06.09 at 1:41 pm
HP Boston 08.06.09 at 12:41 pm
Not to surprise everyone but the fuckers have us all by the neck…..I feel them squeezing tighter everyday!
—–
I am not offering my throat to any one- they stole our votes but in turn, they lost a boatload of loyal (“Heil DNC”) Democrats.
I woke up to the bullsh*t in DC and this woman is is going to question every politician from now on!
Puma-SF 08.06.09 at 1:46 pm
Jeez, pretend is pretend. Hell, I just rode my bike and played with sticks. Although Rose does have a special needs little girl who sits on the steps and pretends to breast feed. I’m sure that’s just fine for her. She doesn’t need a freakin’ doll to help her out. Gawd this is infuriating.
Shadowfax 08.06.09 at 1:47 pm
simofish
#36 — yeah, WTF is right — what’s next? Blow jobs?
————
WTF is right!
Once again, human prove how stupid they can get for a buck.
Idiots. I can just see it, a playground with little girls lifting up their tops…………………….JeezeLouise!
stoney42 08.06.09 at 1:51 pm
Prowl done!
scarlet 08.06.09 at 1:52 pm
Tenn County Dem Chair Calls Obamacare Protesters Nazis
August 6, 2009
-By Warner Todd Huston
Remember how The Obamamessiah was going to bring us a gauzy new world of love, respect, harmony and “post” political debate? Well, apparently the Madison, Tennessee Country Chairman for the Democrat Party, Robert Hill, doesn’t much care for an elevated form of debate. He’s more about calling people that oppose him Nazis.
The white haired, name calling Demo couldn’t resist going on the local Young Republican’s website and calling anyone that opposes Obama’s socialistic take over of the nation’s healthcare system a bunch of “brown shirts.”
So much for that new, post partisan world of serious debate that team Obama was going to create, eh?
If you’d like to tell the aging Dem chair what you think of his even tempered, adult style of debate, do email him at: trhill@hillboren.com.
He’ll likely have his secretary Eva email you right back.
http://rightathomeblog.wordpress.com/2009/08/04/madison-co-democratic-chair-calls-young-republicans-nazis/
The New Vision by MCDP Chair T. Robert Hill July 27, 2009
The election of President Barack Obama introduced the political world to a new vision for America, a vision of hope and inclusion, bottom to top politics, and ”a government for and by the people”, as originally intended. This election marks a new direction for the country, with governmental transparency for its citizens and activist opportunities like no other time in history. Over the past 8 years, Americans have realized that complacency is expensive. As a result, many have become more politically active than we could have imagined. Moreover, it is happening locally, too.
http://www.tndp.org/group/m/forum/topics/the-new-vision-by-mcdp-chair-t
Nilla 08.06.09 at 1:54 pm
More and more everyday I feel like I am living in the novel Atlas Shrugs, prowl done.
Shadowfax 08.06.09 at 2:06 pm
Well, waddya know:
After 6 Months, More View Obama’s Presidency as a ‘Failure’ Than Bush’s
Posted by Tom Bevan
A rather surprising finding from the newly released CNN poll. Question three on the national survey of 1,136 adults (which includes an oversample of African-Americans) asks, “Do you consider the first six months of the Obama administration to be a success or a failure?”
Thirty-seven percent (37%) said they believe the Obama administration is a “failure,” while 51% consider it a “success” and 11% say it’s still “too soon to tell.”
An identical question was asked of the Bush administration in an August 2001 CNN/Gallup/USA Today survey. At the time, 56% said the Bush administration was a “success” while only 32% considered it a “failure.”
http://realclearpolitics.blogs.time.com/2009/08/06/after-6-months-more-view-obamas-presidency-as-a-failure-than-bushs/
On this link there is another link that leads to the report by CNN phone poll and here is some of it:
CNN Opinion Research
Interviews with 1,136 adult Americans, including an oversample
of African-Americans, conducted by telephone by Opinion
Research Corporation on July 31-August 3, 2009. The margin of
sampling error for results based on the total sample is plus or
minus 3 percentage points.
FOR RELEASE: THURSDAY, AUGUST 6 AT 6 AM
1. Do you approve or disapprove of the way Barack Obama is handling his job as president?
July 31-Aug. 3, 2009
Approve 56%
Disapprove 40%
No opinion 4%
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7. We’d like to get your overall opinion of some people in the news. As I read each name, please say if you have a favorable or unfavorable opinion of these people — or if you have never heard of
them. (RANDOM ORDER)
Hillary Clinton
(July 31-Aug. 3, 2009 Poll period)
Favorable – 61%
Unfavorable – 35%
No opinion – 4%
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19. Do you think Barack Obama’s policies have made the economy better, or don’t you think so?
(ASKED OF HALF SAMPLE. RESULTS BASED ON 506 INTERVIEWS IN VERSION A –
SAMPLING ERROR: +/- 4.5 PERCENTAGE POINTS.)
July 31-Aug. 3 2009
Made economy better 44%
Don’t think so 51%
No opinion 5%
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Pretty freaking interesting, especially for a report for in-the-tank-with-Obama CNN.
alphabeach 08.06.09 at 2:07 pm
Done, and done.
Doh! Now they have my email address. When I go to use my email address to sign up for my shiny new plan sponsored by the gov, they will boot me off the system pronto and redirect me to god knows where.
In my letter I did inquire as to what the government plans to do with the collected emails. Not right. Very scary.
Notyoursweetie 08.06.09 at 2:09 pm
Got that poll too – ain’t it great how he outdid W?
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2009/08/06/polls-obama-outdid-bush/
NikkisMom 08.06.09 at 2:12 pm
Prowl done!
Shadowfax 08.06.09 at 2:12 pm
Nancy Pelosi claims protesters are “carrying swastikas and symbols like that to a town meeting on healthcare.”
Would a PUMA paw qualify as “a symbol” to be feared “like that”?
(Tiny video clip)
Hmmmmmmmmmmm, maybe I am fishy for talking about the brown shirts.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2009/08/05/pelosi_town_hall_protesters_are_carrying_swastikas.html
NikkisMom 08.06.09 at 2:14 pm
I also sent this letter to Senators McCaskill & Bond 2 days ago. Might be a good idea to prowl them also!
August 4, 2009
RE: Totalitarianism – Whitehouse searching for inoffizielle Mitarbeiter (ie, Request by Whitehouse to report on opposition to HR 3200)
Dear Senator McCaskill,
In all my life I have never seen anything like this.
The Democrats call dissenters divisive, but this is openly pitting Americans against one another. It’s repulsive. Americans have the RIGHT to dissent & discuss and not agree with our government. You should remind Mr. Obama to read the Constitution, just in case he’s unfamiliar with it and you should consider reading it yourselves!
I could not imagine ever sending to a conservative White House the comments of any web poster or my friends, just because their views differ from the government at the time.
I think we should have every American who is appalled by this White House’s Quisling Program on a given day to openly wear a symbol on our clothing in a manner similar to when the Nazi’s made Jews sew yellow Stars of David on their clothes.
This is Totalitarianism. I’ve pasted the definition here for you.
Totalitarianism (or totalitarian rule) is a concept used to describe political systems where a state regulates nearly every aspect of public and private life. The term is usually applied to states such as the Soviet Union, National Socialist Germany, Democratic Kampuchea, Vietnam, Cuba, Mao-era and North Korea. Totalitarian regimes or movements maintain themselves in political power by means of an official all-embracing ideology and propaganda disseminated through the state-controlled mass media, a single party that controls the state, personality cults, central state-controlled economy, regulation and restriction of free discussion and criticism, the use of mass surveillance, and widespread use of terror tactics.
Sincerely,
Rancho 08.06.09 at 2:14 pm
GREAT PROWL MURPHY! Wow, I feel energized! (I guess I just put myself on the enemies list! I turned MYSELF in!) A little comment abt. some issues that came up last night. Think of the POWER PUMA could have if we could find what we all agree on and UNITE!
This was my prowl. I added the stuff at the end ’cause of the BCC’s, and I wanted THEM to read what I would be saying at town halls. Thank you Murphy for expanding the BCC’s. Really feel CNN should get our prowls, too, as well as other stations apart from Fox. (Like speaking to the choir)
—————————-
Attention Macon Philips, White House Minister of Information
“The stakes are too high for government to be a spectator sport!”-Barbara Jordan
I HAD been a voting DEMOCRAT for over 40 years, but the Democratic party no longer represents my voice. I no longer consider myself a Democrat, and I am NOT a Republican, EITHER. I am NOT a radical right-wing fanatic, and I DO NOT see myself as Astroturf. If I choose to attend a town hall meeting, dressed up, or comfortably attired, my appearance should not be a “clue” to my political persuasion. My frustration and anger HAVE NOT been manufactured. I AM AN AMERICAN CITIZEN, and the Constitution guarantees that I have a right to address any injustices I witness, and to peaceably assemble to challenge my representatives by freely expressing my grievances. After reading about your program encouraging Americans to report instances of “fishy” speech by their fellow Americans, it is my feeling that you, as well as our members of Congress need to be reminded what the First Amendment of the Constitution really says!
The First Amendment to the United States Constitution:
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or
prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of
the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the
Government for a redress of grievances.
The United States Constitution should be respected and adhered to for ALL decisions made on behalf of our country and its people, and I WILL speak up if I feel my voice is not being heard! That is my right as an American citizen in a DEMOCRATIC SOCIETY. It is especially crucial that people in your line of work are not only familiar with the Constitution, but adhere it it!
Obamacare is better off dead. Kill it, start over and this time do it right! FIX the parts that are broken, REGULATE THE INSURANCE COMPANIES AND PHARMACEUTICALS, study and learn from the systems that ARE working, improve Medicare and Medicaid and give the uninsured insurance through the waste that has been found. BE FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE! I HAVE TO BALANCE MY BOOKS, AND SO DOES THE STATE. THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SHOULD NOT HAVE A RIGHT TO GET WHATEVER THEY WANT ESPECIALLY IF I HAVE TO PAY FOR IT, AND I HAVE TOLD YOU I DON’T WANT IT. Reckless spending without accountability is irresponsible, and if we are not listened to at town hall meetings, the voting booths will allow us to speak up!
Sincerely,
XXXXXXXXXXXX
Puma PAC Member
http://pumapac.org
goofsmom 08.06.09 at 2:19 pm
Great Prowl… all done… used a sock puppet email addy…
Hey fishys… ya can’t catch me…
sheila7 08.06.09 at 2:20 pm
Hi PUMAS!
Prowl Done.
Nice job NikkisMom and Rancho.
Rancho 08.06.09 at 2:21 pm
Dang, Goofs I SHOULD I HAVE DONE THAT!!
Where would I get one of those ? . . .never mind! Too late!
goofsmom 08.06.09 at 2:28 pm
Rancho,
For future reference… sign up for a free email account with any service. Yahoo, google, hotmail whatever… Use different passwords… and email from the library so they don’t get your IP addy…
I’m kinda lucky we have a network setup and the firewalls, etc… a wizard we know added a goody that changes the IP addy automatically… Ask me off blog… you know the mail…
Rancho 08.06.09 at 2:32 pm
MURPHY, JUST GOT THIS AUTO. REPLY BACK FROM THE PROWL:
-We appreciate your sending us your comments, but next time you may want to try posting it directly on Jack’s blog. It’s getting a huge response and it’s a great way to join the conversation. See what you think by giving it a whirl at http://www.cnn.com/caffertyfile.
Maybe add it to the prowl for those who have not done it yet?
Shadowfax 08.06.09 at 2:35 pm
Analysis: Bill Clinton as a diplomatic fix-it man
:snip:
For all of those who wondered what Bill would do in Hillary Clinton’s diplomatic world, wonder no longer.
As details of the Clinton mission came out, it was revealed that the North Koreans themselves asked for Clinton, promising amnesty for the women upon delivery of the former president, whose visit eluded them while he was in office. The deal was done even before Clinton stepped on the plane.
http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/08/06/analysis.bill.clinton/index.html
Rancho 08.06.09 at 2:35 pm
GOOFS, Sounds complicated . . maybe we can discuss it at town hall that “Caspie” is working on. Have you heard anything?
Oh well, I am NOT ashamed about anything I said in that letter. I didn’t personally defame anyone and would not take anything back. It’s how I feel.
sistermoon3 08.06.09 at 2:35 pm
Obama’s snitch progrm, good. Bush warrntlss wiretaps 2 catch terrorists, bad. No Leftie outrage ths time?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~the above was a twitter message, it is rather ironic dont you think? well, with the exception of here anyway
goofsmom 08.06.09 at 2:47 pm
Rancho,
Casper is working on a protest march as opposed to a town hall… because the congress critters we want to talk to are to chicken to come out and play. She said she will keep us posted. Sounds like fun and I have a video camera ready to go….
Stay tuned… lovely to see democracy in action, can’t wait…
NikkisMom 08.06.09 at 2:47 pm
goofsmom – #58…. I was scared to send it from my personal email addy for awhile. I don’t trust the govt. at all and tend towards the paranoid when it comes to them. HOWEVER, in order to overcome my fear of them, I decided to face them. In reading Sun Tzu-the art of war, he says:
I’m still skeered
, but it calms me to know that I will have good company in the re-education camps. 
Of course, while in camp, I may wish I had done as you suggested.
sheila7 08.06.09 at 2:50 pm
NikkisMom,
My thoughts exactly. I almost didn’t send it from home but then I thought about my (supposed) right to free speech and put my name and state proudly on my email. But, hey, at least we’ll get together in our camp.
Goofsmom will at least be able to tell people what happened to us.
sistermoon3 08.06.09 at 2:54 pm
.S.C. § 552a, United States agencies, including the Executive Office of the President shall, “maintain no record describing how any individual exercises rights guaranteed by the First Amendment unless expressly authorized by statute or by the individual about whom the record is maintained or unless pertinent to and within the scope of an authorized law enforcement activity.” Administration breaks Federal Law!
goofsmom 08.06.09 at 2:59 pm
Nikkismom and Shelia7,
I’ll also hold the bail money, if it’s jail… and figure out a plan to bust you out of the re-education camps…
goofsmom 08.06.09 at 3:09 pm
Sonya Sotomayor is now confirmed as Supreme Court Justice…
Rancho 08.06.09 at 3:10 pm
Just saw that . . McCain voted no.
alphabeach 08.06.09 at 3:12 pm
Shoot – like Klein, my Oregon rep is doing “telephone town halls”. (senators have not scheduled any of yet.)
Disappointing…… I was all set to show up with my HR676 sign, and to demand transparency regarding the insurance industry’s potential gains with obamacare.
After reading these posts I also regret missing the opportunity to show up in a PUMA t-shirt. (hey, sportswear in oregon, how can that be an offensive symbol?)
http://blumenauer.house.gov/
goofsmom 08.06.09 at 3:12 pm
Rancho,
Yep, he said that he wouldn’t vote for her a couple of days ago…
sistermoon3 08.06.09 at 3:13 pm
well, congrats to sonia, history is once again made:)
goofsmom 08.06.09 at 3:16 pm
Looks like “O” either going to give a speech or swear her in, in the next 1/2 hour… stay tuned…
marie 08.06.09 at 3:17 pm
http://astuteblogger.blogspot.com/
I Think We Might Be Breaking the Gestapo
I would feel bad about how fast we knocked them off their pedestal if not for the rapid pace at which they’ve tried to pass every piece of legislation and do everything else they could get away with under the table to destroy my country.
I don’t know whether the Barbara Senator Boxer part or the Ariana Huffington is funnier. You decide.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRvtWEG_vhQ&eurl
marie 08.06.09 at 3:18 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrA9zj94NuU
MAXINE WATERS OUTS THE DEMS SOCIALIST AGENDA
Rancho 08.06.09 at 3:18 pm
and Kay Bailey Hutchinson, NO!
marie 08.06.09 at 3:18 pm
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-confidential/Obamas-dissident-database-could-be-secret—-and-permanent-52571822.html
Obama’s dissident database could be secret — and permanent
By: Byron York
Chief Political Correspondent
08/06/09 4:47 AM EDT
The White House request that members of the public report anyone who is spreading “disinformation” about the proposed national health care makeover could lead to a White House database of political opponents that will be both secret and permanent, according to Republican lawyers on the Senate Judiciary Committee who are examining the plan’s possible implementation.
“So the White House, whether by design or accident, has requested information from the public that will become ‘records’ under the Presidential Records Act, yet would be impermissible for any government to otherwise collect under the Privacy Act,” writes one Judiciary Committee source. “Where were the lawyers in all of this? What is their legal basis for authorizing the collection of these records?”
Linda Douglass, head of communications for the White House Office of Health Reform, says the White House is “not compiling lists or sources of information” on opponents of health care reform. But if “fishy” information is indeed collected, as Phillips’ request suggested, the laws involved mean that the information obtained by the White House could not only be secret but permanent. A dissident database, in whatever precise form it ultimately takes, could be around for a long time to come.
-Byron York
This sounds like an Nixon hitlist
And they called BUSH a Nazi
goofsmom 08.06.09 at 3:19 pm
Texas Senator Kay Bailey Hutchinson voted nay to Sotomayor….
Texas Pumas, were you expecting this from her… and is this part of the Rep party line???
Just asking…
marie 08.06.09 at 3:20 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJ6iLuyCAx0
Senator Schumer on McCain’s Cancer and Medical Records
HYPOCRITE…..TRANSPARENCY DODGER
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRR0Lmd0xhY
Harry Reid calling for transpancey when running for Presidency
goofsmom 08.06.09 at 3:21 pm
Looks like Sotomayor won’t be sworn in till next week by “O”..
Shadowfax 08.06.09 at 3:30 pm
Love this poster of Barry posted on TC!
https://secure.norml.org/catalog/PSTR01.html
Ya mon…………..Anti would like it too.
Susie1945 08.06.09 at 3:41 pm
Anybody else ever notice that no matter what it is – presser, going somewhere, big announcement – whatever it is – that fuckin’ POS fraud is never on time – another one of his little stick it to em’ jabs – makes everyone wait for his precious pearls of wisdom – what an asshole – screws up tv schedules, etc. – another point of narcissistic personality – YOU wait for me – not the other way around…………can we impeach the bastard yet???
holy hsit – before they only had my address but I shredded the precensus 28 page POS – now the fuckers have my email address – guess I really will be in jail…………..of course all you PUMAs are gonna be in there with me – bunch of old, bitter knitters clinging to our guns (damm – they’ll take those away won’t they???)
goofsmom 08.06.09 at 3:45 pm
Susie1945,
Yep, they will take the guns away for sure and probably the knitting needles to… we are all going to have to learn to crochet…
Cape Hatteras 08.06.09 at 3:52 pm
Funny but acurate http://afrocityblog.wordpress.com/2009/08/06/thursday-morning-stitch-n-bitch-the-arugula-scare/deer-in-headlights/ cartoon.
Cape Hatteras 08.06.09 at 3:53 pm
http://afrocityblog.wordpress.com/2009/08/06/thursday-morning-stitch-n-bitch-the-arugula-scare/deer-in-headlights/
goofsmom 08.06.09 at 3:55 pm
Did I miss “O” or did he decide not to speak???? Stepped away from news for a few and now no one has anything up about it…
Hmmmm….
FLBarbara 08.06.09 at 3:56 pm
I sent the “fishy”. As well as the “mob” email to them. I said I wanted to report a group that must be sending emails using the Democratic party’s name.
For surly the Democratic Party would not be asking citizens to “rat” out citizens who are exercising their First Amendment rights of free speech.
I told them to get right on this because their good name is being dragged through the mud and I am very concerned about this.LOL
goofsmom 08.06.09 at 4:01 pm
FLBarbara….
Excellent…. ROFL…. hehehe
LJSNAustin 08.06.09 at 4:05 pm
goofs #78, I was not expecting a “no” vote from Hutchison. I thought she seemed to be a strong advocate for women and “womens’ issues” (whatever those are!) I am sure, however, that she is most definitely feeling the heat from her constituents at every turn and that may have influenced her vote. Not sure. In fact, not sure what to think of ANY politician.
FLBarbara 08.06.09 at 4:06 pm
Maybe we will all end up in one of those “camps” we have heard about.doing hard labor like making campaign calls for Obama while wearing Obama is the best Prez evah T shirts.
Have no fear President Clinton will spring us.
goofsmom 08.06.09 at 4:08 pm
LJSN,
#89 – Thanks for responding to my question… Your comments helped… I had the same feelings toward her in regards to supporting women…
I agree, who knows what to think of any politician…
HP Boston 08.06.09 at 4:09 pm
LJSNAustin 08.06.09 at 4:05 pm
Well…do you want my take on it…stop thinking about em!
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goofsmom 08.06.09 at 4:01 pm
FLBarbara….
Excellent…. ROFL…. hehehe
We are going to have a good time in the clink…can you bring the drinks Barb??
sistermoon3 08.06.09 at 4:10 pm
the fishy mob LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
goofsmom 08.06.09 at 4:10 pm
HP Boston,
#92 – I’m bringing cupcakes… wink, wink… just don’t bite into them real hard…. also, never ever give one to the guards… (shh… nail file)
Rancho 08.06.09 at 4:11 pm
SEE FOX . . CAVUTO QUICK!!!
WHITE HOUSE ASKING PEOPLE TO REPORT “FISHY” INFO TO HEALTH CARE
IS IT LEGAL?
goofsmom 08.06.09 at 4:12 pm
Rancho,
Yep, I have it on… pretty good coverage…
Rancho 08.06.09 at 4:14 pm
Gotta go . .
I wonder if he comments on emails he received today.
KEEP EM’ COMING, PUMAS! I’m looking forward to watching our BCC’s tonight to see if we’ve been heard SOMEWHERE!
HP Boston 08.06.09 at 4:16 pm
goofsmom 08.06.09 at 4:10 pm
HP Boston,
#92 – I’m bringing cupcakes… wink, wink… just don’t bite into them real hard…. also, never ever give one to the guards… (shh… nail file)
———————————–
You are a life saver! My nail are getting long….
goofsmom 08.06.09 at 4:20 pm
HP Boston,
Hehehehe….
FLBarbara 08.06.09 at 4:20 pm
Yep I will supply the alcohol for the kool-aid we will be forced to drink at camp “fishy mob” it will numb the effects of Kool-aid
Casper Cat of course will supply the music and the daily happy faces.
It will be fun.Hey a place for us all to meet.
And Dances can make us T shirts
I did time at camp fishy mob, did you?
BBL.
goofsmom 08.06.09 at 4:22 pm
FL Barbara,
#100 – Good one…
FLBarbara 08.06.09 at 4:28 pm
Sen Mel Martinez R Fla voted yes because he is leaving the Senate and does not have to worry about REB votes but does have to be concerned with the Latino population in Florida.
Hutchinson voted NO because she is running for Governor of Texas and needs to be concerned about the Repubs votes in Texas.
Politics at its best.
LJSNAustin 08.06.09 at 4:32 pm
Yes, FLBarbara. Politics at its best. UGH! Please may I have a Pina Colada?
goofsmom 08.06.09 at 4:33 pm
FL Barbara,
#102 – So true… basically they didn’t vote because she was or wasn’t a good choice… they voted to save their butts for the next election…
No wonder the country is so screwed up…
goofsmom 08.06.09 at 4:38 pm
Hehehe… Cavuto on Fox has on the Chairman of the company that makes Astroturf… you know the fake grass they use on baseball and football fields…
They are very unhappy with everyone using “Astroturf” in the political arena…
FLBarbara 08.06.09 at 4:39 pm
LJSNAustin
A big tall Pina Colada heading your way.
Cheers to our distinguished representatives who only think about their political gain.
Going for a haircut.
Enjoy the Pina Coladas help yourselves PUMAs.
Luckyseven 08.06.09 at 4:40 pm
I posted this earlier – but I think that it should be reposted. I already sent out letters to the media, etc.
We just read about sending “fishy” emails from our friends etc. to big brother -
Check this out
Of course, this was not on American tv
BIG BROTHER IS GROWING TALLER
Obama passing new law to allow searching of PC’s, Laptops, an?and media devices
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f18_1249308394
Luckyseven 08.06.09 at 4:43 pm
New tv ad to be put out.
By the way, I checked and this doctor is from Tallahassee and a diplomate of the American Board of Neurological Surgery.
http://www.newsmaxstore.com/contribute/lav/video.htm
NikkisMom 08.06.09 at 4:48 pm
Maybe we should send them an email that states: “WHOA – someone must have dropped the planet into a time machine and zipped us back in time to when W. was president. I’m pretty sure the Obots told us that only BushII or a similar republican would SPY on American citizens and try to take away our FREEDOM of SPEECH – and their MESSIAH would never do that”!!
NikkisMom 08.06.09 at 4:56 pm
Sheila #65 –
I’ll bring some wine! I hope my company will understand when I apply for “leave without pay…due to re-education”. 
Goofsmom – #67 Good idea – if we can’t file our way out, at least our nails will look good.
HPBoston – #92 – My husband and I have started to experiment with making wine. The cheapest wine you can make: water, yeast & sugar + time = poor man’s wine! So with some simple ingredients that can be easily smuggled into the camps, we can just stay drunk as we get re-educated!
greenfun 08.06.09 at 4:56 pm
I guess I wasn’t the only disgusted by Huffpo’s headline regarding Bill Clinton’s triumph yesterday.
Arianna Huffington really is a bottom dweller.
http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/08/05/people-who-cant-get-over-the-democratic-primary/
http://www.taylormarsh.com/2009/08/06/dear-huffington-post-about-that-headline/
BigCatLover 08.06.09 at 5:02 pm
sistermoon3 08.06.09 at 2:54 pm
.S.C. § 552a
********************
How did you type that little squiggly thing?
Susie1945 08.06.09 at 5:03 pm
Huh – checked taylormarsh – thought maybe her blog had died especially since she turned out to be an obot in the end- first time been to her site since way last year sometime – nothin’s changed – waste of time and energy to go there………….
Cape Hatteras 08.06.09 at 5:03 pm
# !10 Nikkiesmom, use honey+wine yeast+water+time=mead.
Luckyseven 08.06.09 at 5:04 pm
While I know that many of you will disagree with some of her comments, Pamela Geller brings up many good points.
Racism’ Cries a Tired Obama Double-Standard
Thursday, August 6, 2009 2:19 PM
By: Pamela Geller
A real brouhaha has ensued since the appearance of the “socialism” poster of Barack Obama made up as The Joker. Once again, great Americans are being branded as “racists.” Steven Mikulan said in the LA Weekly that the poster “has a bit of everything to appeal to the drunk tank of California conservatism: Obama is in white face, his mouth (like Ledger’s Joker’s) has been grotesquely slit wide open and the word ‘Socialism’ appears below his face. The only thing missing is a noose.” And Bedlam Magazine charged: “The Joker white-face imposed on Obama’s visage has a sort of malicious, racist, Jim Crow quality to it.”
Patriots, be on notice. This is the favorite tactic of the left. Any criticism of Obama, no matter what or how legit, will be labeled racism. Tea party? Racist! Opposition to socialism? Racist! Opposition to nationalized healthcare? Racist! Opposition to cap and tax? Racist! Opposition to the ethnic cleansing of Jewish people in Israel? Racist!
This tactic used to be effective. One case study is the 2006 Virginia Senate race, and the destruction of George Allen’s re-election campaign by the “macaca” incident. A presidential contender was destroyed by a leftopathic lie, despite the fact that the charge of racism was utter nonsense. Meanwhile, Joe Biden’s insult to Indian people went unremarked and unnoticed in the mainstream media.
The media has also ignored the real significance of the Obama Joker poster. It isn’t racism; it’s a sign of America’s rude awakening. The editor of the American Thinker, Thomas Lifson, observed that the poster showed that the inevitable backlash against Obama’s far-left policies has begun: “It is starting. Open mockery of Barack Obama, as disillusionment sets in with the man, his policies, and the phony image of a race-healing, brilliant, scholarly middle-of-the-roader.” But Lifson noted that “the President’s supporters have condemned the image, calling it ‘mean-spirited and dangerous.’ ”
http://tinyurl.com/lxgd6l
http://coolaggregator.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/86ce.jpg
Luckyseven 08.06.09 at 5:06 pm
Bush depicted as hitler.
http://tinyurl.com/lxgd6l
scarlet 08.06.09 at 5:10 pm
Message from Organizing for America:
We have a big weekend ahead of us! The Watermelon Festival is coming to Carytown once again. This festival offers a HUGE opportunity for us to collect health care declarations. Last year, approximately 100,000 people were in attendance. We could easily knock out our goal in one day!
Also, it is important to note that the Richmond Tea Party will be present at the Watermelon Festival. I found this from a local group:
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RICHMOND TEA PARTY has secured a vendor tent at the Carytown WATERMELON FESTIVAL, Sunday, August 9th. This will allow us to hand out fliers about healthcare, and educate festival goers about plans the government has to come between patient-doctor relationships.
Why: To educate taxpayers and reach out to the community with our message of Fiscal Responsibility, Free Markets and Individual Rights. Collect signatures AGAINST Government Take-Over of our Healthcare; Petition will be delivered to the Offices of Senators Webb and Warner. To have a counter presence to Organizing for America which is working to implement massive government control over every aspect of our lives.
The White House is pushing this plan against the Will of the People. We must continue to push back. The month of August 2009 will be one of the most important months in our nation’s history.
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They were right about ONE thing: The month of August 2009 will be one of the most important months in our nation’s history. I urge you to help us fight the smears and build support for health care reform!
Watermelon Festival Canvass (Sunday)Aug.9th 10am
to 6pm.We need as many hands on deck as possible.
scarlet 08.06.09 at 5:16 pm
Organizing for America (OFA) is getting a lot of people asking questions and expressing concern about the health care bill. They have not been getting many answers. This is what one poster said to the name calling posters.
Donna No Shock Barack No Drama Obama of MD Today at 1:49 pm EDT (Updated Today at 1:49 pm EDT)
A lot of people are paying attention for the very first time. They are responding to messages being sent from OFA as well as the President himself not to mention the media is driving a lot of concern.
If you think someone is not sincere please try and answer their question in a thoughtful way before calling them names or assuming the worst. I know there are articles out there stating that people are being paid to come here and disrupt but we need to show a bit of decorum here because we really need all hands on deck. After a few questions and answers you will be able to tell if they are sincere or not but can we please stop jumping to conclusion on every poster that comes here with a question or concern.
Take a moment to see where there concern is. I think that we have all been here long enough to be able to tell who is sincere and who is not.
HopePuma 08.06.09 at 5:23 pm
I just got home from work and will be leaving shortly to go visit a cousin. This came in my email, though, and I want to make sure everyone sees is. This is an AARP meeting to talk about the so-called healthcare bill. I liked particularly the gentleman who started talking shortly after 5 minutes into it, although the whole thing is great.
http://www.breitbart.tv/aarp-reps-cancel-listening-session-after-participants-refuse-to-keep-their-comments-quiet/
HopePuma 08.06.09 at 5:34 pm
Where is the America I know and love? When an 8 year old girl can’t even put up a lemonade stand anymore..!
http://www.fresnobee.com/263/story/1580754.html
HopePuma 08.06.09 at 5:43 pm
(sound of crickets)….
Did everyone go upstairs or something?
HopePuma 08.06.09 at 5:44 pm
I’m having a really hard time with this new “breast feeding” doll… why would they be doing this?
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,537261,00.html?test=latestnews
Luckyseven 08.06.09 at 5:51 pm
Wednesday, August 5, 2009
Obama Administration Withdraws Ahmadinejad’s Elected and Legitimate Statement
Professor Barry Rubin
In “Obama Administration Recognizes Ahmadinejad as elected leader of Iran,” yesterday, I wrote:
“Was this an error? Did [White House spokesman Gibbs mess up? Did the State Department get on the phones to the White House and urge some “qualification” on this statement? We will see but no hint of that yet.”
Sure enough, today Gibbs corrected the statement:
“Let me correct a little bit of what I said on Tuesday. I denoted that Ahmadinejad was the elected leader of Iran. I would say that is not for me to pass judgment on. He has been inaugurated – that is a fact. Whether any election was fair, obviously the Iranian people still have questions about that and we will let them decide that.”
more at:
http://rubinreports.blogspot.com/
HopePuma 08.06.09 at 5:56 pm
Someone sent this to my email also. This was an ad put together by a high school student for one of the April 15 tea parties. If you want to see something to have your heart swell with pride of being an American, watch this and put up the volume:
http://d.yimg.com/kq/groups/15523565/1322781786/name/TeaPartyCommercial.wmv
Luckyseven 08.06.09 at 5:58 pm
Originally published 12:34 p.m., August 6, 2009, updated 01:11 p.m., August 6, 2009
White House: ‘War on terrorism’ is over
Jon Ward and Eli Lake WASHINGTON TIMES
It’s official. The U.S. is no longer engaged in a “war on terrorism.” Neither is it fighting “jihadists” or in a “global war.”
President Obama’s top homeland security and counterterrorism official took all three terms off the table of acceptable words inside the White House during a speech Thursday at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, a Washington think tank.
“The President does not describe this as a ‘war on terrorism,’” said John Brennan, head of the White House homeland security office, who outlined a “new way of seeing” the fight against terrorism.
The only terminology that Mr. Brennan said the administration is using is that the U.S. is “at war with al Qaeda.”
“We are at war with al Qaeda,” he said. “We are at war with its violent extremist allies who seek to carry on al Qaeda’s murderous agenda.”
more at:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/aug/06/white-house-war-terrorism-over/print/
Headclunker 08.06.09 at 5:59 pm
Prowl Done.
Buck Farack!
NikkisMom 08.06.09 at 6:24 pm
HopePuma – #121 – WOW – that was awesome! Of course, they were “too well dressed” to be anything other than just old Nazi rethugs…..
Take THAT, Boxer!
NikkisMom 08.06.09 at 6:28 pm
Ok, I really need to go start my evening wine, but a libertarian friend just called who had been listening to Rush
today. I know, I know…. Anyway, she said that a caller pointed out that there is legislation written into the bill that will allow the GOVERNMENT to access your bank accounts directly to take money out to pay your bills in the public option plan, if you don’t pay them on time yourself.
I had told her that PUMAs were reading the bill, so she called me to ask me about it.
Has anyone read that in the bill yet???
NikkisMom 08.06.09 at 6:31 pm
Luckyseven 08.06.09 at 4:40 pm – #107
HOLY COW, BATMAN! When you start adding up all the shit he’s doing, it amounts to one thing: authoritarian rule. He’s pulling this shit when everyone is distracted on defending the country against his other attacks on our freedom!
I sent that to everyone in my email address book…AND to the ‘fishy’ email address too.
NikkisMom 08.06.09 at 6:41 pm
A First-hand view of a Raucous Town-hall meeting by ABC news
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2009/08/a-first-hand-view-of-a-raucous-town-hall-meeting.html
There were no lobbyist-funded buses in the parking lot of Mardela Middle and High School on Tuesday evening, and the hundreds of Eastern Maryland residents who packed the school’s auditorium loudly refuted the notion that their anger over the Democrats’ health care reform plans is “manufactured.”
“I went to school in this school,” a man named Bob told me. “I don’t see anyone in this room that isn’t from Mardela Springs right now.”
“We’ve been quiet too long,” said a woman named Joan.
They came to yell at their congressman, freshman Democratic Rep. Frank Kratovil, and they were surprised to hear that the “Congress in Your Corner” event to which they had been invited — by a robocall from Kratovil himself — was not to be a public airing of grievances, but instead an opportunity for private, one-on-one sessions with the freshman Democrat.
As the crowd grew, and began venting frustration over the fact they would only be meeting with the congressman behind closed doors, Kratovil’s aides suggested he switch to a town hall format.
The aides seemed nervous. Last week, someone hanged Kratovil in effigy outside his district office in Centreville, Maryland.
“I am here because I understand that I do represent you folks, okay?” Kratovil said, after entering the auditorium to applause. “The opinions that you folks have, I need to know. There are legitimate concerns.”
Just then, someone in the audience shouted back, “Our freedom is being taken from us!”
Kratovil is a Blue Dog Democrat who signed onto a letter last month urging House Speaker Nancy Pelosi to delay a vote on a health care reform bill until after the August recess. His officially “undecided” stance on health care reform makes him a prime target for frustrated constituents already miffed that he voted for the House Democratic leaders’ energy bill last month, after initially telling voters he was “undecided” on Cap and Trade.
scarlet 08.06.09 at 6:51 pm
NikkisMom 08.06.09 at 6:28 pm
Anyway, she said that a caller pointed out that there is legislation written into the bill that will allow the GOVERNMENT to access your bank accounts directly to take money out to pay your bills in the public option plan, if you don’t pay them on time yourself.
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Section 1173A a-2-D Page 58: Calls for a National Health Plan Beneficiary Identification Card for every person and the ability to determine a persons individual financial responsibility and eligibility prior to, or at the time of service.
In this section it says: …determination of an individual‘s financial responsibility and whether the individual is eligible for a specific service with a specific physician…..
Section 1173A a-4-C Page 59: Requires the ability to have electronic funds transfer from insured account to the federal government automate reconciliation of health care payment.
(From what I can determine there will be no billing – they just take out what you owe from an insured account – whatever that is)
Section 1173 is not in order – it is at the beginning of the health care bill.
persephone 08.06.09 at 7:04 pm
sure
reach right in and take money out of people’s bank accounts.
that will be mandatory under the law, not optional.
that is one slippery slope. our liberties are being eroded.
the government should not take money out of private citizens’ bank accounts without their permission.
we oppose the legislation, they aren’t listening, and we will be made to pay for it by allowing the government access to our bank accounts.
Obama cannot have another term-he is really destroying America.
persephone 08.06.09 at 7:08 pm
I have no representation in Congress.
John Kerry, Ted Kennedy, and Nikki Tsongas are not interested in my opinions, unless they agree with Obama’s agenda. (they don’t)
Yet they want access to my f*cking bank account. Yeah, sure.
Take whatever you need, assholes.
This is nuts!
DancesWithPumas 08.06.09 at 7:19 pm
persephone 08.06.09 at 7:04 pm
sure
reach right in and take money out of people’s bank accounts.
that will be mandatory under the law, not optional.
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Do we know this is in the bill?
simofish 08.06.09 at 7:19 pm
Phone — I feel ya sister — I have Congresswoman Barbara Lee who from day one was behind Barry. Then I have Diane Feinstein who is a Democrat all the way through – she’s not gonna rock the boat – she’ll get in line right behind Barry. FUCK.
persephone 08.06.09 at 7:20 pm
dances
see scarlet #131
DancesWithPumas 08.06.09 at 7:22 pm
Section 1173A a-4-C Page 59: Requires the ability to have electronic funds transfer from insured account to the federal government automate reconciliation of health care payment.
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Sounds like the way I buy groceries and make other purchases, with my atm debit card.
sheila7 08.06.09 at 7:23 pm
DancesWithPumas 08.06.09 at 7:19 pm
persephone 08.06.09 at 7:04 pm
sure
reach right in and take money out of people’s bank accounts.
that will be mandatory under the law, not optional.
———–
Do we know this is in the bill?
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I would like to try to find that too. My husband told me this the other day and he heard it from a radio show host. At the time I said that is hard to believe but I am hearing it more and more. This is something I’d like to bring up at my meeting. Has anyone seen this in the bill?
Oh sorry, I just saw the reference to it. I will look it up myself. Thanks persephone and scarlet.
persephone 08.06.09 at 7:29 pm
dances
you go to the store with your atm card when you WANT to buy groceries and you swipe your card.
if you don’t want the groceries, you don’t swipe.
Not the same as the Federal government MANDATING the turning over of your EFT billing info and they will debit your account to pay for the HC plan, whether you like it or want it or not.
persephone 08.06.09 at 7:33 pm
These Acorn assholes are turning us into Venezuela with better corporate bonuses.
persephone 08.06.09 at 7:38 pm
the cat brought me a mole
going outside to cry now.
persephone 08.06.09 at 7:42 pm
sign the petition
http://www.youcanstopobama.com/
Susie1945 08.06.09 at 8:00 pm
Hey PUMAs – Remember Susan Boyle – well take a look a her now – holy smokers……………………………..am on amazon waiting list for her first album………………
http://www.popeater.com/2009/08/05/susan-boyle-harpers-bazaar-photos/?icid=main|hp-laptop|dl4|link2|http%3A%2F%2Fwww.popeater.com%2F2009%2F08%2F05%2Fsusan-boyle-harpers-bazaar-photos%2F
DancesWithPumas 08.06.09 at 8:01 pm
FLBarbara
http://www.cafepress.com/DancesWithPumas/6834850
Susie1945 08.06.09 at 8:02 pm
Sorry – tmi – http://www.popeater.com/2009/08/05/susan-boyle-harpers-bazaar-photos/?icid=main
NikkisMom 08.06.09 at 8:14 pm
scarlet 08.06.09 at 6:51 pm
-thanks for the info! I don’t get it. If healthcare is going to be “free” why do they need this: “determination of an individual‘s financial responsibility” and an “electronic funds transfer”???
Headclunker 08.06.09 at 8:14 pm
Hey Murphy,
I have been posting on the NYC Craigslist/Politics board and got into it with a couple of ‘bots over PUMA. Apparently they think you are the big dog behind the Pumasphere and have been posting some of the HCR Debt stuff to try and discredit you. I guess I should tell you that I invited them to file an FEC complaint with the FEC if they thought you were hiding something. I even offered them the link. If you need any help with an audit, I am good with numbers. As I have been finishing up some stuff on the FECK obama Complaint, I hope to be posting an update some time soon.
In the meantime, I would just like to say I think it is timely for PUMA to get out there and blog the PAC around because alot of people are realizing how much they have been deceived. This business with the return of the “Truth” Squad is very disturbing. Obama is a malignant narcissist. I think he will be getting very ugly as he fails.
sheila7 08.06.09 at 8:16 pm
Has anyone heard Judge Napolitano on the fishy story?
He says it is illegal. I’ve seen him on a few shows today. He is on O’Reilly now.
Headclunker 08.06.09 at 8:17 pm
Oh, and Murphy,
Has anyone told you lately,
You are Wonderful.
BigCatLover 08.06.09 at 8:22 pm
Susie1945 08.06.09 at 8:00 pm
Hey PUMAs – Remember Susan Boyle – well take a look a her now – holy smokers……………………………..am on amazon waiting list for her first album………………
http://www.popeater.com/2009/08/05/susan-boyle-harpers-bazaar-photos/?icid=main|hp-laptop|dl4|link2|http%3A%2F%2Fwww.popeater.com%2F2009%2F08%2F05%2Fsusan-boyle-harpers-bazaar-photos%2F
*************************************
She looks really good, but they made her pose in those 4″ heels that I think should be banned. I hate them, they are ridiculous and dangerous. IMO
waterpanther 08.06.09 at 8:22 pm
Section 1173A a-2-D Page 58: Calls for a National Health Plan Beneficiary Identification Card for every person and the ability to determine a persons individual financial responsibility and eligibility prior to, or at the time of service.
In this section it says: …determination of an individual‘s financial responsibility and whether the individual is eligible for a specific service with a specific physician…..
Section 1173A a-4-C Page 59: Requires the ability to have electronic funds transfer from insured account to the federal government automate reconciliation of health care payment.
(From what I can determine there will be no billing – they just take out what you owe from an insured account – whatever that is)
Section 1173 is not in order – it is at the beginning of the health care bill.
___________________________________________________________
This sounds as if it works very much the way Texas unemployment benefits or so called “food stamps” work. Each recipient has a debit card, with so much deposited into that card’s account on regular basis. To spend that money, you swipe the card and access the specific account connected with it. It’s not the holder’s checking or savings account, but the account set up solely to go with that card, into which the government, not the recipient, has deposited money.
There’s enough wrong with 3200 without inventing further problems. Its single greatest drawback is that it will kill any chance we may have at single payer for a decade or more. It deserves to die on that basis alone.
persephone 08.06.09 at 8:24 pm
49% of respondents to CNN survey gave Obama an F grade on healthcare.
all those radical wingnut astroturfers musta freeped it, cough cough
persephone 08.06.09 at 8:26 pm
those are voluntary programs, waterpanther.
big diff.
my representatives are on a spending spree and for that they want direct access.
well, i say screw them. enough is enough.
goodnight now!
murphy 08.06.09 at 8:26 pm
{{{{dances#144)))
a dozen dozen kudos.
(12 x 12 = 144, right?)
murphy 08.06.09 at 8:28 pm
gee thanks Headclunker!
BigCatLover 08.06.09 at 8:40 pm
I think HRC is going to score a B on the CNN show rating. Voting online is wrapping up for her right now. Gloria Borger gave her an A.
BigCatLover 08.06.09 at 8:40 pm
No she got a C+ online.
BigCatLover 08.06.09 at 8:41 pm
She got a B- on the telephone poll done over the weekend.
Rancho 08.06.09 at 8:43 pm
HI, MURPHY! Boy that prowl felt great! And thank you for adding those extra BCC’s . . .not just Fox. (I changed it around a bit , ;P #54)
Goofs, if you are still around, when does Riverside have their annual “orange Festival?” . . .August perhaps? Hmmmmmmmmmm!
BigCatLover 08.06.09 at 8:51 pm
Joe Biden gets a C- on the CNN online poll.
NikkisMom 08.06.09 at 9:00 pm
DWP #144 -
BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Tooo funny!!
waterpanther 08.06.09 at 9:06 pm
persephone 08.06.09 at 8:26 pm
those are voluntary programs, waterpanther.
big diff.
_________________________________________________________
If the problem for you is that all citizens must participate in a program–i.e., that it’s involuntary–then state your objection as such.
If the government deposits money into a special account assigned to you–not into your private checking or savings account–then withdrawals from that account are not coming out of your own checking or savings account and shouldn’t be represented as coming from your private accounts. Whether participation in the insurance program is voluntary or involuntary is an entirely different question.
goofsmom 08.06.09 at 9:07 pm
Rancho,
I think the Orange Blossom Festival here in Riv. is in May… Sorry… looking for another large gathering here in the IE
goofsmom 08.06.09 at 9:08 pm
Dances,
#144 – Love it…
goandersen 08.06.09 at 9:09 pm
surely, they jest. I can dream, can’t I?
Hugs Murph
goandersen 08.06.09 at 9:10 pm
Dances
`#144 You go girl! For sale yet?
TexasTigress 08.06.09 at 9:12 pm
clink
goandersen 08.06.09 at 9:14 pm
Clink
Let’s send MSNBC matching Butt-plugs.
It’s the wine. Shiraz
HP Boston 08.06.09 at 9:14 pm
Hey Murphy I went by your house an hour ago and waved!!!!
HP Boston 08.06.09 at 9:17 pm
It’s the wine. Shiraz
I really like that red wine! Yummmm
goofsmom 08.06.09 at 9:18 pm
(((((Goanderson))))))
Answering for Dances, Yep, they are for sale now…
goandersen 08.06.09 at 9:19 pm
HP
I’m liking it reaaaaaaaaaaaaal good right not
goandersen 08.06.09 at 9:19 pm
opps, right now.
goofsmom 08.06.09 at 9:19 pm
clink, clink, clink….
goandersen 08.06.09 at 9:20 pm
goofsmom,
I am buying one for everyone I know. major smack!
goofsmom 08.06.09 at 9:21 pm
goandersen,
LMAO…. hehehe
HP Boston 08.06.09 at 9:21 pm
persephone 08.06.09 at 8:26 pm
Oh shit Pers you are going to get reported on the fishY site now! Goddamn freaking ass government…we need a revolution!!!!
BigCatLover 08.06.09 at 9:21 pm
U S Congress is rated overall a D (52% gave it an F) in the CNN online poll. But voters rated their own two Senators a C.
goandersen 08.06.09 at 9:22 pm
HP
I say bring it, Bring it on! A revolution is way mo fo over due. Don’t ya thinK?
clink, clink to TT
goandersen 08.06.09 at 9:23 pm
I hope the gov comes to my door. They will never be the same again in this life… Come on taitors, knock on my door, I dare ya.
goandersen 08.06.09 at 9:24 pm
I need to have a couple of shots with Hillary. That would do it.
TexasTigress 08.06.09 at 9:25 pm
Rita the Restaurant Owner !!!!
BillieJo 08.06.09 at 9:27 pm
Holy smokes, ((((Gooooooooooo, TT and Greenfun)))) all on the same thread.
The PUMAs are coming home to roost, I hope.
Love my PUMAs and superPUMA Murph!
AntiFish, where are you?????
HP Boston 08.06.09 at 9:31 pm
Well I am going to lay me down and go to sleep and thank the goddesses for all the great Pumas on THIS blog..America will survive bcause we are united, informed and drink yummy wine!
Going out for some R&R tomorrow.
Take good care of Murphy, she is a leader with class we can all be proud of, I know I am……….
Rancho 08.06.09 at 9:34 pm
Got it Goofs . . . so Casper’s working on another “gathering”?
goandersen 08.06.09 at 9:35 pm
(((((((((((((((((((BillieJO))))))))))))))))))))
I am one and a half sheets to the wind. Do ya know anyone who wants to buy a house with good bones??
goandersen 08.06.09 at 9:36 pm
antifish is probably under the porch by now.
goandersen 08.06.09 at 9:37 pm
((((((((((((((((((((((greenfun))))))))))))))) hey girl
goandersen 08.06.09 at 9:37 pm
((((((((((((((((((((((greenfun))))))))))))))) hey girl
goandersen 08.06.09 at 9:37 pm
Oh, now I am stuttering…. great
goandersen 08.06.09 at 9:38 pm
My sister has a friend that breeds buffalo in Alaska. Sounds like a great destination for me.
HopePuma 08.06.09 at 9:39 pm
I’m getting a lot of things in my email from people. I haven’t had a chance to verify this, so if someone in here can verify it I would appreciate it. This is what a friend sent me:
“This Sunday on Fox Sean Hannity, of Hannity & Colmes ~ Fox
news, is going to air a very important documentary about Barack Obama,
Sunday night at 8:00 PM central / 9 PM eastern. He stated on the air this
evening that no one in the news media was willing to do this. Hannity is
going back to Obama’s earlier days, showing even then his ties to radical
professors, friends, spiritual advisers, etc., he stated this evening that
he will show in detail his ties to Rev. Wright for 20+ yrs. How he was
participating with this man, and not for the reasons he states! He has
uncovered more of Obama’s radical leaders and we will see things that no one
in the media is willing to put out there. This will be a night that you will
learn more about Obama than ever before Hannity is very passionate about
this program and asked that everyone please, please watch~~ Sunday night, 8
PM. CT; 9 PM ET Please pass this on to everyone you know. Democrat or
Republican, you can learn from this. It is critical for our country.”
goofsmom 08.06.09 at 9:40 pm
Rancho,
Yep, by the sounds of it… one of our very own…. Heh…
goofsmom 08.06.09 at 9:42 pm
FYI,
CNN is doing the be poll #’s from their survey… But, they are allowing people to call in and text for so many minutes before they post the poll results…
They will be covering “O”’s grades next… so turn on get the # and respond… I will also post the info as soon as they put it up on the screen…
BigCatLover 08.06.09 at 9:44 pm
Media scores a D in the CNN online poll. 49% gave it an F.
BigCatLover 08.06.09 at 9:44 pm
6 more minutes to vote on the performance of Barack Obama. http://www.cnn.com
goofsmom 08.06.09 at 9:45 pm
grade “O’
1-888-grade-09 or text 22360
simofish 08.06.09 at 9:50 pm
Headclunker 08.06.09 at 8:17 pm
Oh, and Murphy,
Has anyone told you lately,
You are Wonderful.
_______________
Yep – I agree !!! AWESOME. In my next life I want to come back as Murphy – well, a lesbian version of Murphy !
goofsmom 08.06.09 at 9:51 pm
331689 votes…
39% an F…
BigCatLover 08.06.09 at 9:52 pm
C- for Barack Obama on the CNN online poll. I think they said 39% GAVE HIM AN F
BillieJo 08.06.09 at 9:52 pm
goandersen 08.06.09 at 9:35 pm
(((((((((((((((((((BillieJO))))))))))))))))))))
I am one and a half sheets to the wind. Do ya know anyone who wants to buy a house with good bones??
————-
((((((Goooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo))))))))))))
You’re out hanging up sheets?
No anyone that wants to live in the fog.
You might move to Alaska? Well, no geckos there Gooooo, but lots of big time animals. That would be pretty cool……….real cool, hope you have warm clothes. I would rather visit ya in Alaska then the tumble weeds.
Sounds great.
We need to get Simofish before you leave Dodge and go chase down Nasty Pancakes and ask her WTF is she doing with the Democratic party!!!!
We need to do some in-your-face prowls.
BigCatLover 08.06.09 at 9:54 pm
Obama dropped 10% since April on the scientific poll.
BillieJo 08.06.09 at 9:54 pm
Oooooooooops, maybe I am hanging sheets too, but don’t drink.
I don’t know anyone that wants to move into the 364 days of fog.
DancesWithPumas 08.06.09 at 9:56 pm
murphy 08.06.09 at 8:26 pm
{{{{dances#144))) a dozen dozen kudos.(12 x 12 = 144, right?)
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Funny woman. Thanks.
Nikki, goofs, goandersen, glad you like the shirt.
Yep, everything you see in the puma pac store is for sale.
And, all profits go to Puma PAC.
http://www.cafepress.com/danceswithpumas
BillieJo 08.06.09 at 9:56 pm
Simofish, we need to get Goooooooooooo and do a prowl, hunt down Nancy.
Also need to try to set up a webcam skype teleconference with S. Cal PUMAs at our next meetup….waddaya think?
BigCatLover 08.06.09 at 9:57 pm
Facebook voters rated Obama a C+. Interesting since they are supposed to be young and cool.
BillieJo 08.06.09 at 9:57 pm
Seeing Taggles rant yesterday make me realize how lucky we are to have {{{{Murph}}}
BigCatLover 08.06.09 at 10:02 pm
Lisa Ling is on CNN talking about her sister’s return from N. Korea. She’s saying Laura is still quite weak, exhausted and emotional.
BillieJo 08.06.09 at 10:14 pm
I have the perfect idea for future PUMA protesting.
A little patch of astroturf made into a hat. A sign that says, “Lift my Astroturf and you will find an angry DEMOCRAT!!!!”
honora 08.06.09 at 10:15 pm
I leave tomorrow morning for a lake-side cabin in New Hampshire. It will be great, no internet or cell phone service. I think it will be wonderful for the Mr. ( a complete workaholic) and the two teenage daughters, but I am starting PUMA withdrawal and I have not even left yet.
I must admit that since I miss all the great stuff, I may re-emerge a week from Monday and discover that Obama admitted he is a Kenyan and not eligible to be president, Biden will have had health issues necessitating his resignation and Pelosi will decide that she loves the House and that Hillary should be president.
Hillary’s first speech is to demand that all Democratic elected officials support single-payer and in their euphoria they pass true national health care.
I should have gone on vacation earier.
She you all when I get back.
goofsmom 08.06.09 at 10:17 pm
((((honora)))))
Have a wonderful trip…
CJK 08.06.09 at 10:18 pm
One question for this evening (because I’ve had too much single-malt scotch already;) How is BO asking American citizens to rat out their neighbors who may oppose HR3200 and gathering this info into a permanent digital database any different than Nixon authorizing the Watergate breakin to spy on his political opponents? Nixon was impeached for Watergate. Can’t BO be impeached for ‘fishy-gate’? Just askin’ (sorry for the slightly slurred post…)
BillieJo 08.06.09 at 10:26 pm
I found this site that lists where Health Care Town halls are located
http://campaignsilo.firedoglake.com/2009/08/06/august-health-care-events/
goofsmom 08.06.09 at 10:28 pm
CJK,
Slur all ya want… Love the “impeach Bo for ‘fishy-gate’….
honora 08.06.09 at 10:32 pm
BillieJo– those are only House members. I just found out my senator, Cardin, is doing one in my neighborhood, while I am on vacation. Everyone should check their senators and congress person’s website.
CJK 08.06.09 at 10:38 pm
Thanks, goofs! How are you this evening? What will you have from the PUMA bar? I think FLBarbara is still around. I’ll buy with the money I won’t be paying in taxes to fund the government that no longer represents/serves any of us everyday Americans…
NIXON WAS IMPEACHED FOR WATERGATE
IMPEACH OBAMA FOR FISHY GATE!
BillieJo 08.06.09 at 10:41 pm
honora 08.06.09 at 10:32 pm
BillieJo– those are only House members. I just found out my senator, Cardin, is doing one in my neighborhood, while I am on vacation. Everyone should check their senators and congress person’s website.
——
Good to know, thank you.
CJK 08.06.09 at 10:41 pm
BillieJo 08.06.09 at 9:57 pm
Hi there, BillieJo! Agree! Please see my comment #5 above. I really do want a t-shirt that says ‘Ideologically impure and damn proud of it,’ and on the back ‘Democracy means daring to disagree, PUMAs roar, PUMAs rock!’
goofsmom 08.06.09 at 10:42 pm
CJK,
Hanging in there this evening… I’ll have a frost glass with an Amberbock… thanks…
FYI… If unemployment #’s are less than double digits in tomorrows report… please remember the source, read the articles carefully, slowly and be alert for how they are being massaged…
CJK 08.06.09 at 10:46 pm
goofsmom 08.06.09 at 10:42 pm
Just saw the guy from WSJ on Greta. He says the unemployment numbers tomorrow are the worst in 26 years (I think; though the scotch has me somewhat foggy…) Also, we’re at more than 9 percent unemployment, with 15 million Americans unemployed. Millions who used to be employed full time, are now working part time. Millions have just given up looking for work. I know how they feel…
CJK 08.06.09 at 10:49 pm
FLBarbara, we need an Amberbock with a frosted glass for goofs. I’ll buy. Clink! Good to see you here, as always, goofs! Wish I could go protest with you, Casper and Rancho! Damn, we could have a great time!
goofsmom 08.06.09 at 10:50 pm
CJK,
Yep, I saw that… they are saying the # will be 9.6% unemployment… of course, those #’s don’t include those individuals that are no longer eligible for unemployment, but still aren’t working…
I know how they feel tooo… ((((CJK))))
CJK 08.06.09 at 10:54 pm
((((goofs)))) right back at ya my friend…Are we the only two PUMAs at the bar this evening???
goofsmom 08.06.09 at 10:55 pm
CJK,
We 3 know you will be there in spirit with us… Plus, I’ll be taking a video camera to the protest, so it can be uploaded to youtube and here. I thought about selling the camera for the money, but decided that we have much better use we can put it to… Like puma protest coverage… it records to a DVD… so I can make copies and send around as needed…
Kiss my butt ‘fishy boys’
goofsmom 08.06.09 at 10:56 pm
CJK,
The others will be showing up soon… clink, clink
TexasTigress 08.06.09 at 10:58 pm
clink .
burp .
’scuse me.
CJK 08.06.09 at 10:58 pm
I love BillieJo’s webcam idea. Glad you’re taking the video camera. I don’t even have one of those to hock. LOL…
CJK 08.06.09 at 11:01 pm
TT! How are ya? So glad to see ya! Waitin’ for your sage and savvy words of wisdom…
goofsmom 08.06.09 at 11:02 pm
((((TT)))))
FLBarbara 08.06.09 at 11:04 pm
Hi Pumas
Just came on and I see you need drinks.
I am just in time step on up…drinks are on…ME..I have a house account.
Dances
Love Camp fishy mob
I love the whole store I will order Fri if I still get an uneployment check. LOL
goofsmom 08.06.09 at 11:08 pm
(((FLBarbara)))
Thank you… gonna need it… I’m on newswatch for Unemployment #’s… All foreign markets just started into a hold pattern about 30 minutes ago waiting for our #’s to come out…
I need to tie one on for this…
CJK 08.06.09 at 11:09 pm
Hey, FLBarbara! Thank you! So glad you’re back! Clink.
TexasTigress 08.06.09 at 11:12 pm
I was over reading the last couple days at the Widdershins ..
whew ….
I am so confused now .
I am pretty sure I am a pretty far left liberal lesbian on most every issue I can think of . ( well I am a lesbian on every issue ) but I am pretty sure they were refering to this site , my home , when they (some of them) were talking about right wing pumas …
So now I have to go to bed with an identity crisis . crap .
Am I not left enough ? What is enough ? Am I not liberal enough ?
Oh shit ! Am I not gay enough ?! What will I tell my partner ??
I’d better just hit the hay .
night pumas
sheila7 08.06.09 at 11:12 pm
(((PUMAS)))
I’m back. I’ll take a glass of wine please, any kind of red.
TexasTigress 08.06.09 at 11:14 pm
(((goofs ,cjk, sheila, fl, goooo, BJ )))
FLBarbara 08.06.09 at 11:15 pm
I think that numbers come out fri at 830 am EST.
I collect from NY state.and it is high here.
Hi CJK CLINK and Cheers
I went to get a haircut today and the Latina girls in my salon were all drinking mojitos to celebrate Sotomayers conformation :HEHE
TexasTigress 08.06.09 at 11:15 pm
((((pumas)))
goofsmom 08.06.09 at 11:16 pm
TT,
Who cares what other blogs think… I think you are a great and wonderful PUMA and I don’t give a rusty rat’s A** about anything else…
Anybody says different can just go suck and egg… Pfft.
DancesWithPumas 08.06.09 at 11:17 pm
CJK #218
Click on the image:
http://www.cafepress.com/DancesWithPumas/6834850
CJK 08.06.09 at 11:18 pm
TexasTigress 08.06.09 at 11:12 pm
TT, if you’re still here, please read my comment at #5. I think it might help. (P.S. You can probably never be ‘left enough’ or ‘liberal enough’ or ‘gay enough’ for the widdershins; but I’ll bet your partner doesn’t care!)
Hi sheila7! Goofs and I are tying one on here, commiserating about the unemployment numbers. FLBarbara is our lovely bartender/ress who graciously has offered to buy, so long as her unemployment check arrives on schedule…;)
DancesWithPumas 08.06.09 at 11:19 pm
TT
So now I have to go to bed with an identity crisis .
—————–
Don’t let others define nor confine you.
You know who you are.
goofsmom 08.06.09 at 11:19 pm
FL Barbara,
I’m watching foreign market reactions right now… because sometimes they get the real news and we get the soft sell stuff… Okay, set me up again ….
goofsmom 08.06.09 at 11:21 pm
Dances,
#239 – That is a great one… Hehehe
CJK 08.06.09 at 11:21 pm
DancesWithPumas 08.06.09 at 11:17 pm
Aww, Dances! Thank you! You are fantastic!
TexasTigress 08.06.09 at 11:22 pm
cjk – nice #5 . I feel better now . Thanks
sheila7 08.06.09 at 11:22 pm
Holy Shit!!! This is literally my neighborhood. 10 minutes down the road. I didn’t even know there was a meeting tonight there. I’m just now trying to get all the info. It sounds like I might rethink bringing my son Tuesday.
http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/laworder/story/0470FEB3219207458625760B001142AC?OpenDocument
TexasTigress 08.06.09 at 11:22 pm
(((((((((((((dances))))))))))
FLBarbara 08.06.09 at 11:24 pm
TT
Sounds like you need a nightcap…I will make you a DOUBLE so both sides of you can have a drink.
Billiejo
What you having?
Dances
I got a Shirley waiting for you.Put down the great T shirts and relax with a Shirley
Shelia
Wine is good for you clink clink
goofsmom 08.06.09 at 11:25 pm
Dances,
Just in case no one else has said it today… You’re Wonderful and we love ya….
CJK 08.06.09 at 11:25 pm
TexasTigress 08.06.09 at 11:22 pm
((((TT)))) I agree with goofs. You will always be our sage, savvy, wise, wonderful PUMA friend. Who gives a rat’s behind about what anyone at any other blog or anywhere else thinks. Thanks to Murphy and all the other lovely PUMAs, THIS is the place where democracy truly lives; and you and your partner are always welcome here!
DancesWithPumas 08.06.09 at 11:26 pm
((((((((((TT))))))))))
Barbara,
surely a shirley
make it a double, straight up (no ice)
DancesWithPumas 08.06.09 at 11:28 pm
(((goofs)))
CJK 08.06.09 at 11:29 pm
FLBarbara, I’ll try one more double single-malt scotch (did that make sense???). Your bartending skills are second to none! And, you’re also a fantastic writer! A winning combination if ever there was one!
sheila7 08.06.09 at 11:30 pm
The local news had this story but it doesn’t talk about people being pepper sprayed or arrested.
http://www.fox2now.com/ktvi-health-care-town-hall-carnahan-protest-080609,0,4896997.story
TexasTigress 08.06.09 at 11:30 pm
tee hee – look at all the drunk people hugging and dances right in the middle encouraging it ! LOL !
simofish 08.06.09 at 11:30 pm
Bilie Jo == yes to webcam and yes to getting GO —
BRB
FLBarbara 08.06.09 at 11:31 pm
Goofsmom
Ohhhh I see.I am going to make sure you have plenty to drink while you are waiting.
Let’s us toast to Murphy. Slante’ Murphy.
goofsmom 08.06.09 at 11:31 pm
CJK,
# 253 – ROFL… good thing you are only driving your keyboard… I’d have to pounce you for your keys… hehehe….
goofsmom 08.06.09 at 11:33 pm
Murphy… the most wise and wonderful Puma leader a Pac could have… Clink….
DancesWithPumas 08.06.09 at 11:34 pm
TT
LOL!!
:::clink:::
FLBarbara 08.06.09 at 11:38 pm
Ohhhhh you are keeping me busy
CJK double single malt scotch WOW and thanks CJK
Okay PUMA hugs for everyone
((((PUMA))))
Cheers ALL
Dances
I so love your store I spent about 45 there looking at everything. I sent the web site address to friends.
goofsmom 08.06.09 at 11:39 pm
FL Barbara,
Nah… can’t drink to much… will just take little sips for a while…
DancesWithPumas 08.06.09 at 11:41 pm
FLBarbara
Thanks and thanks!
That’s one way to get our messages out.
Wish I was a printer… or rich… everything would be free to PUMAs.
DancesWithPumas 08.06.09 at 11:42 pm
oh, PS It’s OUR store.
FLBarbara 08.06.09 at 11:48 pm
That is funny goofsmom
Driving your keyboard and I will have to take your keys.LOL
We may have to put CJK to bed if she has another malt scotch.
Casper Cat 08.06.09 at 11:51 pm
Hey, Pumas just remember…. ‘Change gonna come’ take a look…. Great song..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHa096VQ8FE Enjoy!!! Oh, prowl done…. 
CJK 08.06.09 at 11:52 pm
goofsmom 08.06.09 at 11:31 pm
Thanks, goofs! I knew I could count on ya to be the designated keyboard pouncing PUMA!
Dances, I wish I were employed so I could order bunches of those new t-shirts and totes! I’m going to try to prevail on ‘those upon whose kindness I now rely’ for funds so I can order at least one of each. Thank you, thank you!
Gotta go; the last double single-malt scotch finally kicked in. Good night lovely PUMAs! Thanks for being you!
sheila7 08.06.09 at 11:53 pm
Goodnight CJK.
DancesWithPumas 08.06.09 at 11:53 pm
#257 and #259
To Murphy…
alla salut!!
:::clink:::
goofsmom 08.06.09 at 11:57 pm
Nighty-night CJK… sweet dreams
Casper Cat 08.06.09 at 11:57 pm
This is what I think about the HC2300 Bill… I Tried to hold be self back… Well, I just cannot do it…. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aE2eDfIHT-U
sheila7 08.06.09 at 11:57 pm
Off to bed for me too. Hopefully I’ll find out more tomorrow about the arrests at the town hall meeting. I’m curious why they arrested the cameraman or the reason they give anyway.
Goodnight PUMAS.
DancesWithPumas 08.06.09 at 11:58 pm
Caspieeeeeeeeeee
oh, man!! LOL!!!
You’re too much!
DancesWithPumas 08.06.09 at 11:59 pm
‘night, sheila
yeah, let us know what you find out.
goofsmom 08.06.09 at 11:59 pm
Night Shelia7
goofsmom 08.07.09 at 12:01 am
CasperCat,
Good one… ROFL…
FLBarbara 08.07.09 at 12:04 am
Dances
Then I will say you have done an incredible job. I love everything.
I have a few political events end of month and over labor day weekend.one is not so formal, so I was thinking of wearing a black pantsuit and getting the Hillary traveling Pantsuits tank top to wear so I could advertize PUMA.It would be daring to do at this fund raiser but what the hell.
Thanks for the great job you do.
goofsmom 08.07.09 at 12:09 am
FL Barbara,
I propose a toast to our Dances… Dances, you are a talented and awesome puma… Thank you for helping keep our feet on the Puma path…
::::clink, clink::::
FLBarbara 08.07.09 at 12:10 am
Goodnight CJK and Shelia sweet dreams
DancesWithPumas 08.07.09 at 12:12 am
FLBarbara…
sounds awesome!!
(((Goofs))) Thanks.
I think I’d better head off to bed on that high
note.
goofsmom 08.07.09 at 12:13 am
Nighty-night Dances…
I’ll be lurking in a corner of FL Barbara’s Puma Bar…
FLBarbara 08.07.09 at 12:16 am
Here is to Dances,
My last of the night
I am sooooo tired.
Cheers Dances
Casper Cat 08.07.09 at 12:16 am
OOPS!!!!!!!!! HR2300… I know you know what I mean…. Just on my lap top and the keys are very close… no excuse… Just like my desk top better…
But, my feeling still have not changed…. 
goofsmom 08.07.09 at 12:17 am
Casper Cat,
DancesWithPumas 08.07.09 at 12:21 am
it’s contagious
BillieJo 08.07.09 at 12:23 am
simofish 08.06.09 at 11:30 pm
Bilie Jo == yes to webcam and yes to getting GO —
BRB
—————
Awesome! We will have to play with it first and try it out. I already have a Skype sign in name…but no laptop.
I do have a portable webcam I can set back up and we can practice.
So cool PUMAs are mostly woman and I don’t have to worry about being in my jammies.
TT you are perfect, just the way you are.
Not liberal enough for the other blog, tough shit!
I am a centralist, not a sheep.
FLBarbara 08.07.09 at 12:23 am
Goodnight all
Sweet Dreams
FLBarbara 08.07.09 at 12:23 am
Goodnight all
Sweet Dreams
BillieJo 08.07.09 at 12:24 am
BBL Burn Notice is on………….
goofsmom 08.07.09 at 12:25 am
________________
BillieJo 08.07.09 at 12:23 am
I am a centralist, not a sheep.
_________________________
Ohhh, I like that… good one BillieJo
Casper Cat 08.07.09 at 12:28 am
WOW… my typos suck… sorry, will be back on the desk top tomorrow…. Ya!
… I just got in from a fire rescue evacuation….. It was about 40 minutes from
Tonight, everyone returned to their homes with their animals and reuniting with the ones left behind….. 
Riverside…toward Temecula… I got there in 20 minutes…. I had all of my crates (for dogs and cats) collars, leashes and water for them and the people too…. also, snacks for all…. The whole mountain was on fire on the 79 hwy heading toward temecula…. tonight for our so cal puma ch 4 news will be covering the story…. So, many people and not enough time to get out…… They took what they could leaving alot of wonderful animals behind…. But, the good news…… with dozen planes and at least that many fire trucks on the ground they were able to keep the homes from burning… I would say at least 400 home were ordered for immediate evac…… very scary with a great outcome…. Thank goodness today was cooler low 80’s….. Just wanted to share…. Something that started out horrible…. actually ended up on a positive outcome….
simofish 08.07.09 at 12:28 am
BillieJo – I have a webcam and a MAC I can stream from.
OK – I gotta get out of here – the Mrs. has me on a short leash tonight !
goofsmom 08.07.09 at 12:29 am
Nighty-Night FL Barbara… Sleep well…
goofsmom 08.07.09 at 12:31 am
Casper Cat,
Thank you for the update on the fire… It was wonderful to hear that everyone was reunited and at home… sigh… they don’t always give that detail in the news.
goofsmom 08.07.09 at 12:31 am
Night Simofish…
DancesWithPumas 08.07.09 at 12:36 am
Goofs…
GO TO BED!
It’s a school night.
PumaRhythm 08.07.09 at 12:38 am
Hiya Murphy and Pumas!
I brought this over from the Confluence h/t wmcb “Great video of Hillary in Kenya. She dances around 30 seconds in.”
Lighter Moments of Secretary of State…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WO4UMMpJTk
Go Hillary Go!!!……..God I love that Woman!!!
also…Thank you RememberNovember for your kind words last night…I did not see them until I had logged out. Thank you Pumas!!
G’night Pumas……..sweet dreams.
goofsmom 08.07.09 at 12:39 am
Dances,
Ya can’t catch me… hehehehe….
Casper Cat 08.07.09 at 12:41 am
DWP… Oh, I forgot to tell you… YOUR boss called…He needs you at work at 3:00 am…. and to pull a double tomorrow….
Have you recovered from your road trip yet? Will be meeting the girls tomorrow…. 
Hope you are doing great!!
Rancho 08.07.09 at 12:48 am
I finally got a chance to pop in and it looks like everyone’s going to bed!
Re. 3200, Casper HOW/WHERE DO YOU FIND THESE? (I hadn’t even heard abt. the fire. Everyone o.k.?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aE2eDfIHT-U
By chance, are you craving deli for lunch tomorrow?
Zee 08.07.09 at 1:22 am
Rancho…if you’re still popping in…I’m still up! I’ve been so busy these days I only have online time late at night…
====
Dances…too cute. lol!
DancesWithPumas 08.06.09 at 1:27 pm
All pro-obamacare articles and email sound fishy to me. I’ll be forwarding links and any email I receive from selected officials to Comrade Obama Inc.
Zee 08.07.09 at 1:29 am
#38 Puma-SF
You’re right, simo. It reeks of McCarthyism. Been thinking that since the primaries and as Murphy points out the “Truth Squads”.
====================================
This is the angle more disturbing than any other to me. This is training the “kids” to be snitches. This is red China. And no, by that I don’t mean Obama is “leftist” or “marxist” — I am talking about taking over society by “reporting” people.
As far as the evil of gathering our info, more savvy PUMAs than I should check out Cannonfire. Joseph has something up about Facebook gathering all the IPs and info through our “friends.” I am not into social networks and can’t follow the conspiracy theory outlined there…but it should definitely be added to the caveats of our rapidly unfolding distopia.
Zee 08.07.09 at 1:39 am
#58 goofs
” email from the library so they don’t get your IP addy…”
Our library makes you sign in for a computer. They have your name, which computer you used, the time you were using it. Librarians are probably the least willing people in the US to “snitch” but it’s built in…at least at our library.
goofsmom 08.07.09 at 1:41 am
Zee,
#303 – well that sucks… Use an “O” fan’s computer… hehehe
Zee 08.07.09 at 1:46 am
#62 sistermoon
“Obama’s snitch progrm, good. Bush warrntlss wiretaps 2 catch terrorists, bad.”
Well put. This is how we descend into hell, one step at a time. First the morons gave Obama a pass for reneging on his promise to filibuster if necessary to hold the telecoms responsible for spying on Americans. He gave them IMMUNITY. Not a peep from the Hopium-addicts. Now he orders them to “inform.” Where will the Good Little O-Germans draw the line?
Zee 08.07.09 at 1:47 am
Hey Goofs! Well, we only get an hour at most at our library…and the kids are hovering around to swoop in if anyone has time left over. I mean little kids, who want to play computer games.
Zee 08.07.09 at 1:51 am
#64 Nikkismom
Very important post. The loss of fear…it’s not always a good thing, but it does come.
Zee 08.07.09 at 1:59 am
77 Marie
Yeah, they called Bush a fascist for a reason. And the problem with Zerobama is that he is CONTINUING Bush policies, not that he’s (yawn) “socialist.”
Zee 08.07.09 at 2:01 am
81 shadowfax,
That is a hilarious poster! TGW headlined it!
Zee 08.07.09 at 2:04 am
#90 FL Barbara…I want to see that in a cartoon NOW! Can Hillary send Bill to spring us all in advance??
goofsmom 08.07.09 at 2:05 am
Zee,
Wow, that is pretty bad…
Zee 08.07.09 at 2:16 am
Hmmmm….low-flying helicopter over my house at 2:12 am….I am busy these days, but if I disappear…
goofsmom 08.07.09 at 2:19 am
Zee,
Quick peek out the window and see if it’s a black helicopter… hehehe…
I ya disappear… I’ll find ya… I’ll use your puppies to search for you…
Zee 08.07.09 at 2:38 am
Heh, goofs…be sure to bring the wine yeast to slip me once my hound tracks me down. It did circle back around but is gone now.
254 sheila—interesting…arresting people, huh? And it seems to be pro-Obama people getting arrested from those accounts. Maybe they’ll wake up to the police state threat. Please, please keep us apprised of the local accounts. This is how it’s always been. Local reports only on protests…we can’t rely on the national “narrative.”
goofsmom 08.07.09 at 2:48 am
Zee,
It was probably looking for another anti-”O” agitator… Making a list now… wine yeast, nail files in cupcakes…
Zee 08.07.09 at 2:53 am
Well, I made it through the thread…not sure when I’ll be back. But just wanted to note that I found out another woman is running for office in my city. I spoke with her and another woman this evening about how we’ll never have a woman president if more women don’t run at local levels. They clued me into some new women’s initiatives and ways to “conference” online. I will pass on when I get the info sent to me. This will anger PUMAs…the woman running for council told me her opponent’s line of attack is that she’s “just a housewife.” She wants to reframe the attack into what that experience translates into.
Just a thought: I think this last election disaster has awakened a sleeping giant: American women.
Zee 08.07.09 at 2:56 am
Heh, Goofs. If I had a gun, knew how to shoot it, and didn’t have arthritis hatching in every aching joint in my hands, they’d never take me alive. (wish I could make the angry cat face!!)
Of course, we could all just move in with Persephone, and stand behind her. ;p
goofsmom 08.07.09 at 3:00 am
Zee,
I look forward to the info when you post it… Have a good night and I’ll see ya when I see ya…
Libby 08.07.09 at 4:51 am
My computer has been down for over a week so I apologize if I am covering/repeating things that have come and gone, discussion wise, while I have been absent.
Pajama media has the best satire on the Joker/Obama poster. It was linked on Real Clear Politics. http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/is-obama-really-like-the-joker/
What I have believed since March 2008, has never been tested as fact more than in the past few weeks…what Obama did in Chicago is what he planned to do in the White House. I thought it back then, and it is a fact right now.
Use the poor to get himself in government, manipulate government, take money from the government to raise himself up, then use the poor to enrich himself and his friends using government money, then move up the next rung of the ladder, leave behind the poor, and then use a new group of poor people, take government money…etc. On and on it goes.
It has worked for him for so long that it must be like learning the times table and putting it to use over and over again. Funny thing is, no one ever became president by reciting the times tables over and over again…until Obama came around.
X amount of poor people TIMES X amount of federal dollars = money for Obama and friends.
Problem for Obama? Hell no. He really believes that there is a big barrel of cash that will be his for the taking as long as he smiles and jokes around and parties it up with his buddies. Obama really believes that Axelrod knows what he is doing. He thinks he is invisible and no one can see what he is doing as long as he talks.
Of course Goldman Sachs and Soros back him. He is feeding them every dollar ever created in the U.S. by stripping the companies and people of their earnings. This has gone way past socialism and I wish the critics would catch up.
The Obats/Obots are going wild on amazon.com attacking Malkin’s book as well as Glenn Beck’s and Levin’s book. They were first sent to attack Atlas Shrugged, which people rightly picked up on as the book that described in 1957 what would be happening in 2008. Now they have to diversify since there are multiple books exposing Obama. They cannot keep up. That is a good sign. Apparently there are not as many of them as they would like us to believe.
Time to take this down is now. Not in 2012. Not even in 2010. No Cap and Trade and No Obama/Pelosi Health Insurance Care Plan. If Obama cannot be impeached then he needs to be a lame duck.
I am still so sorry for those who voted for him with the best hope. Too bad they didn’t see the joker for who he is. I hope they can see him for what he is now.
murphy 08.07.09 at 6:34 am
Peaches posted,
take it upstairs!
persephone 08.07.09 at 9:10 am
waterpanther
yes, I object to being forced to participate in a program
yes I object to the government extracting my hard-earned money to pay for said program.
yes I object to this administration’s trampling of my privacy and liberty.
I will go down fighting.
Zee, you are welcome any time. I am stocked with food, medicine, firewood, and Tamiflu.
BYOB.
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