Brilliant

by murphy on August 5, 2009

in open thread

This is honestly brilliant. You have to have watched THIS first in order to get it.

And THIS will make you cry. As Zee said in comments, “It’s a three hanky view. Be warned that they insisted on throwing in shots of Zerobama walking to a podium to speak on the women’s release. But even those are worth it because they show that unlike every other human who was either smiling warmly or crying tears of joy, this empty suit narcissist was pouting, pursing his lips and almost scowling in every single picture! He was obviously peeved at being upstaged.

Which is more presidential? Securing the release of two American journalists from the bowels of the Evil Empire? Or having a beer with two testy guys?”

And, not brilliant, but FUNNY just the same.

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Swannie 08.05.09 at 2:39 pm

I got to see it live without the obeast … what a wonderful outcome! Do you think the BIG DAWG spoke so little so as to CONTRAST actions that have results …. with empty speeches??

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Shadowfax 08.05.09 at 3:03 pm

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/photo/2009/08/05/PH2009080500438.html

This photo of Bill sitting with mini-me is proof that Bill didn’t meet with some underling to make the deal of release, the Fraud would have bowed, made apologies for us arrogant Americans and given mini another, fully loaded iPod of Fraud speeches.

I wonder if everyone in the photo was told to look like their favorite pet was just run over by a steam roller or if life really sucks there that much for N. Korean leaders.

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Notyoursweetie 08.05.09 at 3:03 pm

Oh, man, you owe me a keyboard! Priceless!
Satisfying and timely too, considering also the editorial WaPo had this morning
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2009/08/05/bill-clintons-unwise-steps/

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CJK 08.05.09 at 3:06 pm

scarlet 08.05.09 at 2:20 pm

Reposting link from previous thread.

Thanks, scarlet! ROTFLMAO! GARS. Great spoof of BO’s laughable HR3200 and Cash for Clunkers.

http://www.cradlesforcodgers.com/

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HopePuma 08.05.09 at 3:16 pm

I wish someone would get a few dozen of videos like this one to prove to The One and his cohorts in crime that it is NOT a paid bunch of republican wingnuts who are protesting:
http://www.breitbart.tv/house-majority-leader-argues-with-democrat-tea-party-protester-during-news-conference/

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DancesWithPumas 08.05.09 at 3:44 pm

I wish someone would get a few dozen of videos like this one to prove to The One and his cohorts in crime that it is NOT a paid bunch of republican wingnuts who are protesting:
————————
I’m sure there are republican whackos making a ruckus, as sure as I am that odemocratic whacks are doing the same and blaming the republicans. I don’t trust anyone (well maybe one or two people, but even then, I have limits) … I’m just trying to do what I believe is right the correct thing for me… everyone else? I don’t really give a flying fluck.

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goofsmom 08.05.09 at 4:00 pm

Dances,

#6 – Ditto… Absolutely true, they are all out there with their own agendas… Does that mean the rest of us have to shut up or be afraid they will label us…. Pffft… so what else is new… What’s another label going to do to us… Nada!!!!!

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DancesWithPumas 08.05.09 at 4:17 pm

Exactly. It isn’t as though we haven’t been labeled… Racists, cunts, republicans.
Not going to stop me from any activism… Beats cowering at a keyboard blathering about infiltrators, or astroturfing, or almost anything else. Not that the info isn’t welcome, valid info that is, but politics isn’t a spectator sport (h/t barbara jordan).
and being stagnant for fear of being accused of certain associations just means one or another AstroTurf strategies was a success.

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FLBarbara 08.05.09 at 4:26 pm

Ditto Dances and Goofsmom

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admin 08.05.09 at 4:29 pm

“politics isn’t a spectator sport (h/t barbara jordan).
and being stagnant for fear of being accused of certain associations just means one or another AstroTurf strategies was a success.”

brilliant. thank you for the new quote of the day Dances!

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goofsmom 08.05.09 at 4:33 pm

Dances,

#8 – Yep, wish we had a tshirt that said something to that effect. I’m not very clever with sayings…

“Call me whatever label you want… I’m not going to shut up!”

or something like that… :)

Hi FlBarbara…. ;)

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scarlet 08.05.09 at 4:34 pm

Democrat Tea Party ‘Patriot’ Confronts House Majority Leader During News Conference

http://www.breitbart.tv/house-majority-leader-argues-with-democrat-tea-party-protester-during-news-conference/

“You’re lying to me,” said “Patriots” ringleader Don Jeror — who previously organized the area Tea Party back in April, interestingly — interrupting Hoyer. “Just because I don’t have sophisticated language, I can recognize a liar when I see one.”
Jeror also declared: “Why would you guys try to stuff a health care bill down our throats in three to four weeks, when the President took six months to pick a dog for his kids?!”

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/08/tea-party-crowd-crashes-steny-hoyer-event.php

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FLBarbara 08.05.09 at 4:34 pm

I am proud of all the damn labels given to me.

It says I am not a spectator I am a participant.

A loud proud one at that.

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DancesWithPumas 08.05.09 at 4:35 pm

Oh and PS
there hasn’t been a big difference between Dems and Repubs for years. So that badge is pretty much a joke.
Oh and PPS
“progressive”, “left”, etc. Cute terms. Mean nothing since the obots co-opted them.
Christ… I recall not too long ago when rabid republicrats were yammering about how they were “moderates”. Bwaaaaaahahaaaaa

truth be known, lefties and progressives deserted mainstream politics decades ago.

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Shadowfax 08.05.09 at 4:36 pm

Dances-
…politics isn’t a spectator sport…
——
Yup…words on a page only go so far, but getting out into the streets & protesting against bad policies, has an effect.
——
Protesting against the Viet Nam war back in the days, wasn’t about Rep or Dem astroturfing…it was about anger against a war of wasted lives.

If claiming that you are being played by one party or the other and therefore shouldn’t be out protesting, well then, my playing to that tune would be giving up MY freedom of speech and allowing others to think and act for me.

Call me a name, think I am being used…say what you will, but I have a mind of my own and will do what I think is best. I don’t have to justify my protests to anyone. Never did, never will.

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FLBarbara 08.05.09 at 4:36 pm

Hi Goofsmom

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goofsmom 08.05.09 at 4:36 pm

Dances,

Congratulations on being the quote of the day… :lol:

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admin 08.05.09 at 4:38 pm

actually, can you put that one in the CLASSIC! section along with pers’ :evil: comment from this morning?

i’ll go find it.

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DancesWithPumas 08.05.09 at 4:42 pm

Murphy
second row down
http://www.cafepress.com/DancesWithPumas/6818233

“The stakes are too high for government to be a spectator sport.’
Barbara Jordan

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goofsmom 08.05.09 at 4:42 pm

Yippee, Man alledgely abused by wife and 3 lovers is ARRESTED… A’hole

http://pumapac.org/2009/08/05/brilliant/comment-page-1/#comment-360040

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goofsmom 08.05.09 at 4:43 pm

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DancesWithPumas 08.05.09 at 4:45 pm

goofsmom 08.05.09 at 4:33 pm
Dances,
#8 – Yep, wish we had a tshirt that said something to that effect. I’m not very clever with sayings…
“Call me whatever label you want… I’m not going to shut up!”
—————–
Your wish is my command… sometimes.
I have a few t-shirts / bumpersticker / buittons to work on this afternoon for the puma pac store

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goofsmom 08.05.09 at 4:45 pm

FLBarbara,

#13 – ME TOO!! oops… too loud… hehehe… :lol:

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goofsmom 08.05.09 at 4:47 pm

Dances,

#22 – “Your wish is my command… sometimes.”
________________

Darn it…. does that mean I’m not your sockpuppet any more???? :(

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simofish 08.05.09 at 4:52 pm

# 22 — I want that bumper sticker — I am over at the store looking around and have a couple of things in the cart — I will wait for that one.

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goofsmom 08.05.09 at 4:54 pm

simofish,

:lol:

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DancesWithPumas 08.05.09 at 4:55 pm

Oh! You mean what I said is the quote of the day! I’m humbled (that’ll be the day :roll: ).

goofs,
no, it means your still are. lol

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DancesWithPumas 08.05.09 at 4:57 pm

How about:
Slap on any label you like …
I’m not going to shut up.

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persephone 08.05.09 at 4:58 pm

Has anybody seen HP?
:roll:

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marie 08.05.09 at 5:02 pm

http://www.redstate.com/jeff_emanuel/2009/08/05/clever-rnc-staffer-turns-democratic-outrage-mob-incitement-back-on-its-source/

Clever RNC Staffer Turns Democrat-Incited Mob Outrage Back on its Source

Posted by Jeff Emanuel (Profile)

Wednesday, August 5th at 3:39PM EDT

7 Comments
Update: “The RNC is inciting angry mobs to shout out legitimate discussion at public events across the country and now they want to ignore people who deplore their tactics,” said DNC spokesman Brad Woodhouse about the DNC’s failed effort to incite angry mobs to flood the RNC with phone calls.

* * *

This is clever:

Republicans played a trick on Democrats today by redirecting angry telephone calls coming into their switchboard to the Democratic National Committee, CNN reports.

Earlier this morning, the DNC released a web video accusing the GOP of inciting mob activity.

“At the end of the video, the DNC instructs people to call the Republican National Committee to express outrage. Callers who dial the RNC’s main number to voice their concern about the DNC’s charges are told to press 1, which sends them to the DNC’s main switchboard.”

The emphasis on that deliciously ironic pair of phrases is mine. In the name of countering what they claim is the GOP’s inexcusable “incit[ement of] mob activity,” the Democrats did what they always do: stir up the masses and, yes, incite mob activity in opposition to the GOP.

Whoever the clever RNC staffer was who thought to redirect those calls right back to the source of the outrage — the DNC — deserves a free lunch and a letter of commendation.

That was freaking awesome.

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goofsmom 08.05.09 at 5:03 pm

Dances,

#27 and 28 –

Yea… doing a happy sockpuppet Dance… :lol:

JMHO – I like call better than slap… reason… call reminds me off all the shouting, yelling and snarky comments to the MSM… call reminds me of talking…

Slap… physical action as opposed to talking and actually saying the labels…

Hope that made sense….

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admin 08.05.09 at 5:03 pm

i think she’s wading into deep doo-doo and about to get herself banned Pers!!

somebody help the poor woman!

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marie 08.05.09 at 5:05 pm

Michael Steele Takes Credit for RNC Phone Prank
By David Weigel 8/5/09 3:35 PM
On today’s call with reporters, Republican National Committee Chairman Michael Steele took credit for the RNC’s response to a new Democratic National Committee ad asking voters to call Republicans and tell them to stop ginning up town hall heckling. The RNC redirected these calls from its main switchboard over to the DNC’s switchboard — a response, said Steele, to the White House arrogantly blaming regular Americans “like my mother, like my sister” for the health care impasse.

“I thought it was a good idea,” Steele said. “Don’t sit there and think you’re going to direct a bunch of angry liberals to call the RNC when I know full well what that’s all about. I get the joke. My response was, talk to your own party, because they’re the ones ginning this up.”

http://washingtonindependent.com/53954/michael-steele-takes-credit-for-rncdnc-phone-prank

LMAO is this true
If so
U go Steele

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goofsmom 08.05.09 at 5:06 pm

marie,

Thanks for posting that… that was spectacularly clever… :)

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simofish 08.05.09 at 5:07 pm

#30 $ #33 — I am right there with you ROTFLMOA !!!! Clever !!!

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FLBarbara 08.05.09 at 5:08 pm

Alittle pick me up.

During the primary we were venting how tired we were of the labels and the calls to Quit…Hillary said Never let anyone tell you you can do something especially if you care deeply.
Someone said put that in a speech and. Well…let her tell you again.

“Always aim high, work hard, and care deeply about what you believe in. When you stumble, keep faith. When you’re knocked down, get right back up. And never listen to anyone who says you can’t or shouldn’t go on”

Hillary Rodham Clinton

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marie 08.05.09 at 5:08 pm

I thought we could all use a joke

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persephone 08.05.09 at 5:10 pm

go and get her, murphy.
valiant effort but inefficient use of resources :-)

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goofsmom 08.05.09 at 5:12 pm

persephone,

What’s up with HP????

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NikkisMom 08.05.09 at 5:16 pm

The DNC Will Be Disappointed to Learn Nearly 60 Percent of the Country is Part of ‘Extremist Mob’

http://www.weeklystandard.com/weblogs/TWSFP/2009/08/the_dnc_will_be_disppointed_to.asp

But surely there will be some price to pay for equating nearly 60 percent of the voting public with “mobs of extremists.” According to a new Qunippiac poll:

In the Quinnipiac survey, 55% (including 54% of the key independent voter bloc) said they were more concerned that the overhaul would increase the deficit than that Congress would not pass some kind of overhaul. That same 57% (and 59% of independents) disagreed with the following statement: “Overhauling the nation’s health care system is so important that it should be enacted even if it means substantially increasing the federal budget deficit.”

The poll also contains another piece of the public opinion puzzle that Mr. Obama and the Democratic congressional leadership may find problematic: Voters by a large margin don’t want a health care overhaul if it can only garner Democratic votes. In other words, even though Democrats control both houses of Congress, voters are suspicious of a bill that only has Democratic support.

The poll found 59% of the public disagreed (and only 36% agreed) with the following statement: Congress should approve a health care overhaul even if only Democrats support it.”

It’s utterly probable that some—even many— of the concerned folks showing up at health-care town halls are the kind of older, white, Middle America Democrats Obama went to great pains to woo. The rows of VFW ballcaps and suspiciously well-dressed protesters [ http://hotair.com/archives/2009/08/05/boxer-protesters-too-well-dressed-to-be-sincere/ ] bespeak a contingent of Hillary Democrats and even the ballyhooed Obamacans, convinced by Obama’s moderate shtick and now left wondering what they got themselves into. And, if such folks are not in those crowds, they are in the 60 percent of voters who identify with them, as are the all-important Independents.

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sheila7 08.05.09 at 5:22 pm

Hi PUMAS!
I’m finally catching up. By the time I read all the links and watched all the videos on the other thread (which by the way made me cry) I got over here and had to start again. Whew.

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sheila7 08.05.09 at 5:24 pm

I’m getting psyched about my town hall meeting Tuesday. I’m a little nervous because I have noone to go with me but I can do it. My son wants to go but he is 12. Do you think it is ok to bring a 12 yr. old there with me? I think it should be but just wondering what some PUMAS think?

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goofsmom 08.05.09 at 5:26 pm

shelia7,

My 2 cents… take your son… it’s a good civics lesson and opens room for more dialog with him re: politicians… great stuff…

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sheila7 08.05.09 at 5:29 pm

He is actually more knowledgeable than most adults I talk to. My husband went upstairs to check on him the other night and came down and said, “What other 12 yr. old is sitting around watching a news show about politics do you think?” He is fascinated by politics. I told him he might want to consider majoring in political science.

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RememberNovember 08.05.09 at 5:30 pm

Murphy, Persephone – do we have to be close by to help or can we do it long distance?

Dances – Thanks – finally placed an order. Don’t have a town hall meeting to go to YET but hope the order arrives before I can locate one. Great stuff – will be back when I have saved up!! :)

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sheila7 08.05.09 at 5:31 pm

Thanks goofsmom. I think it will be good. There are 2 other meetings that are in dangerous neighborhoods but I’m going to one that is in a fairly rural area, alot of farmers and such, so I think it will be okay.

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sheila7 08.05.09 at 5:32 pm

RemNov,
I ordered a shirt too but I don’t think it will make it in time for Tuesday. I’ll just have to think of a good sign to have.

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RememberNovember 08.05.09 at 5:32 pm

Love the RNC response to the DNC agitation. Just heard someone on TV saying that they are forewarding all the emails they are getting from the DNC to the WH snooping address. :lol: :lol:

Afternoon (((Pumas)))

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admin 08.05.09 at 5:33 pm

Sheila7 absolutely!!

he will be SO proud of you, and having him with you will give you courage and strength.

I dont approve of bringing children to demonstrations that may turn violent or even just scary, but heck — i HIGHLY doubt a town hall meeting is going to be scary.

definitely bring him!

my 2 cents.

;-)

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DancesWithPumas 08.05.09 at 5:36 pm

Okay, it looks like we’re up to six cents now…
that’s three of us who encourage you to bring your child with you.

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sheila7 08.05.09 at 5:36 pm

Thanks admin (Murphy ?)
I agree.

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sheila7 08.05.09 at 5:36 pm

LOL. Thanks Dances.

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RememberNovember 08.05.09 at 5:37 pm

Hi Sheila7 – they might take signs from you? You know you could buy a cheap T – shirt (men’s underwear) and buy an iron-on template – then you can make a sign to wear that they cannot take from you. Did that for my three dogs one Halloween – turned out great for the occasion. :)

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RememberNovember 08.05.09 at 5:39 pm

Plus me – eight cents!

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admin 08.05.09 at 5:42 pm

yup, when I’m messing around with the sidebars and such, I’m admin.

when I’m messin around with the Jameson’s, I’m Paddy O’Bloggin.

;-)

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Notyoursweetie 08.05.09 at 5:42 pm

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sheila7 08.05.09 at 5:45 pm

Thanks RemNov. That’s a good idea about the t-shirt.

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LJSNAustin 08.05.09 at 5:45 pm

HopePuma #5, O.M.F.G. That video is GREAT! These congress critters and other lifelong pols have absolutely no friggin’ idea what it means to converse with their constituents! I am lovin’ this.

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DancesWithPumas 08.05.09 at 5:46 pm

#31 Goofs
I understood and agree. “Call” not “slap”.

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HopePuma 08.05.09 at 5:46 pm

BREAKING NEWS
CNN: “Former Democratic U.S. Rep. William Jefferson of Louisiana has been convicted on 11 of 16 corruption charges against him.”

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goofsmom 08.05.09 at 5:48 pm

Dances,

#59 – Yippee… and the sockpuppet does the Snoopy dance… :lol:

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admin 08.05.09 at 5:50 pm

“I’m a registered Democrat!”

that video at #5 makes me cry.

that poor man.

what a JACKASS the congressman is.

http://www.breitbart.tv/house-majority-leader-argues-with-democrat-tea-party-protester-during-news-conference/

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LJSNAustin 08.05.09 at 5:50 pm

This blog is completely inspiring today!!!

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RememberNovember 08.05.09 at 5:51 pm

Love the cartoon at link #56. Tried to copy it – did not work – would like to send to friends – hey better choose the recipients wisely – in case anyone is so drunk on the koolaid they feel compelled to forward my email to the SNOOP SITE.

Well my big project over this afternoon and then back to the Bill…

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sheila7 08.05.09 at 5:54 pm

Well,
I just registered online for my “health forum” meeting with Claire McCaskill. It told me to print the page confirming my registration. (by the way, this is new, there was no registration a day or two ago.) So, I called and asked if I needed to bring my printout. The girl was very nice and said that the only reason she would recommend it is because they originally expected about 500 and now they are up to about 1600. Who knows how big that will get by Tuesday? She said we will not turn anyone away but because of things like building size and fire codes we may have to resort to only people with their reservation printout getting in the actual part of the meeting. She said get there early if you can and bring your printout.
Now I wish I would have express shipped my shirt that says “Speak your truth, speak it even if your voice is shaking.” :)

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goofsmom 08.05.09 at 5:54 pm

______________________________
HopePuma 08.05.09 at 5:46 pm

BREAKING NEWS
CNN: “Former Democratic U.S. Rep. William Jefferson of Louisiana has been convicted on 11 of 16 corruption charges against him.”
____________________________________________

Link for story:

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/08/05/us.rep.trial/index.html?iref=24hours

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LJSNAustin 08.05.09 at 5:58 pm

NikkisMom, I asked this question downstairs, but do you have a link to the Charles Krauthammer piece you quoted downstairs? I can’t find it and would love to read/share it.

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RememberNovember 08.05.09 at 5:59 pm

Sheila7

“Speak your truth, speak it even if your voice is shaking.” – I missed that one – I like it – perhaps I will have to go back to the store sooner than later. :)

Bye Pumas – be back later – hope HP is OK?

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sheila7 08.05.09 at 5:59 pm

regarding the video at #5,
what a jackass.

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HopePuma 08.05.09 at 5:59 pm

Thanks goofsmom. I didn’t have that.

As for 1600 already for McCaskill, wow. Sure hope THAT shows up on video! I’ll bet that will be “a rockin’ and a rollin’!”

I just don’t understand these guys in congress and the white house. How stupid do they think we are anyway? Why don’t they “get it”??? I mean, the polls are telling them, “we the people” are telling them, and they still insist on doing what they frickin’ want to do no matter what!

I called my congressmen up today (again) and left a message asking what part of the word “representative” they don’t understand. They are no longer representing those who elected them; they are only representing themselves and what their deluded party leaders want, not “we the people” anymore.

Does the phrase “taxation without representation” bring back any memories of history classes about the American Revolution? I fear we are going to be having another one, if they ram this through against our will.

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goofsmom 08.05.09 at 6:02 pm

LSJN,

Link for Krauthammer, second half of NRO post… so you need to scroll down some to reach it… :)

http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=OTU1Njc5ZjQ4NGExNDU0MzcwMTExNWM3NTMxMzViMGY=

HopePuma,

Happy to help… :)

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sheila7 08.05.09 at 6:02 pm

HopePuma,
It will definitely be on video. The last time she had something, a week or two ago, she wasn’t there but her staff was. It got pretty hairy and her staff was having people arrested! it was all over the news here so they will for sure cover this one. She’s holding 3 on Tuesday so I don’t know if mine will be on tape or not.

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sheila7 08.05.09 at 6:04 pm

oh, and I think the lady meant 1600 at each one because you had to specify which meeting you would go to.

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sheila7 08.05.09 at 6:06 pm

I’ll check back later. Need to get some things done. Thanks for all the great info today PUMAS.

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DancesWithPumas 08.05.09 at 6:06 pm

sheila7
Now I wish I would have express shipped my shirt that says “Speak your truth, speak it even if your voice is shaking.”
————–
I wouldn’t be surprised if yoru shirt arrives before Tuesday.
When I ordered my Vote Puma shirt, it took a week from order, production, shipping, to arrival. Same for the “Skipper the Shipper” limited edition shirts.

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LJSNAustin 08.05.09 at 6:08 pm

Thanks much, goofs!

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sheila7 08.05.09 at 6:08 pm

Dances,
OHH, I hope so. I have a feeling my voice will be shaking. I cannot express my disdain for Claire enough so I’m going to have a hard time expressing myself rationally, but if I get the chance that’s exactly what I will do.

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admin 08.05.09 at 6:10 pm

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admin 08.05.09 at 6:10 pm

{{{{{{Sheila7}}}}}}

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DancesWithPumas 08.05.09 at 6:13 pm

sheila7 08.05.09 at 6:08 pm
Dances,
OHH, I hope so. I have a feeling my voice will be shaking. I cannot express my disdain for Claire enough so I’m going to have a hard time expressing myself rationally, but if I get the chance that’s exactly what I will do.
——————–
Practice, as if you’re going to give a speech, that might help. Either way, fear not, people (I ) soften when I hear someone speak with a shakey voice… to me it means what they have to say is more important to them than being nervous or self-conscious, shy, or embarrassed.

Go for it, Sheila, we’re with you all the way!!!

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NikkisMom 08.05.09 at 6:15 pm

Hi LJSNAustin – looks like goofs found it…sorry I didn’t see your post! I love that guy!

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HopePuma 08.05.09 at 6:15 pm

sheila7, write out what you want to say, and practice it. Don’t do it around any sharp objects though. Hate to have you grab any while practicing. Have something to relax you right after the practicing so you don’t blow your head open with high blood pressure. I just can’t believe that these guys don’t know, can’t see, don’t understand! This isn’t republican or democrat- this is Americans “we the people” standing up for America!

BTW, 1600 at each of 3? And that number is continuing to grow, too! Is yours the first one? I wonder if she’s going to make it to the last two of them. She may have “had it” after the first one and just send her minions to “take the heat” for her again. What a wimp! If this is something you really believe is good for America stand up and tell us why and how; don’t go hiding behind “telephone town halls” or sending your minions out to do it, or having police escort people out.

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sheila7 08.05.09 at 6:15 pm

{{{{Murphy, Dances and all PUMAS}}}}

Thanks!
Ok, I really have to go now!

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DancesWithPumas 08.05.09 at 6:17 pm

RememberNovember
If you go to the storefront, as it’s called, you can click on any of the sections (represented by a graphic image or text) and you’ll find many more slogans etc. in that category.
Not trying to sales pitch you, just trying to help you navigate the puma pac store.

http://www.cafepress.com/danceswithpumas

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NikkisMom 08.05.09 at 6:18 pm

Sheila – I see lots of people reading their opinions – you could print out Rancho’s post & summarize it and read it to Ms. Claire!

Geeez, I wish I could go with you. :(

Claire spoke today on ‘Cash for clunkers’:

http://stlouisteaparty.com/tag/cash-for-clunkers/

I heard Senator Claire McCaskill (D-MO) on KMOX this afternoon. She was talking about her concerns over Cash for Clunkers. Her concerns should be our concerns:

-Nearly all the “clunkers” traded in so far are American manufacturers’, while nearly all of the purchases are imports. That means less shop work for American dealerships, more for foreign dealerships

-Chrysler and, to a degree, GM have low inventories, which is driving purchases to imports. Since those people won’t be back in the market for 3 years, it means Chrysler and GM will restock in the midst of another auto industry depression this fall

-This program has no exit strategy. The White House’s argument for another $2 billion is to pay for deals already in the pipeline. But neither the White House nor Congress has offered an exit strategy along with the request for more money. If Democrats demand an exit plan from Iraq, then they can provide one for the far less complex issue of Cash for Clunkers

-There is serious debate over the environmental net impact of the program. Destroying perfectly usable vehicles puts a lot of garbage into environment, as does the manufacture of a “green” car

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goofsmom 08.05.09 at 6:22 pm

Shelia7,

Hope you are still there… I have had to speak in front of large groups of people before (600+) Scared me to death, by the way.

Buy the largest index cards you can find….

Write one to 2 sentences in very large letters…

Read…

PS you will still be nervous… expect that… Don’t however let it stop you…

The above tips were given to me by a very wonderful gentleman that I know, when he got me invovled with that group. (Not goofsdad… :) )

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theamericanway 08.05.09 at 6:24 pm

#66 – CNN: “Former Democratic U.S. Rep. William Jefferson of Louisiana has been convicted on 11 of 16 corruption charges against him.”
=============

Just hope the obots and other misfits realize that William Jefferson and William Jefferson Clinton are two separate individuals.

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persephone 08.05.09 at 6:33 pm

hee hee

wear ripped jeans and flip flops to the townhalls or you won’t be taken seriously

http://hotair.com/archives/2009/08/05/boxer-protesters-too-well-dressed-to-be-sincere/

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scarlet 08.05.09 at 6:40 pm

DNC email

There’s been a lot of media coverage about organized mobs intimidating lawmakers, disrupting town halls, and silencing real discussion about the need for real health insurance reform.

The truth is, it’s a sham. These “grassroots protests” are being organized and largely paid for by Washington special interests and insurance companies who are desperate to block reform. They’re trying to use lies and fear to break the President and his agenda for change.

Health insurance reform is about our lives, our jobs, and our families — we can’t let distortions and intimidation get in the way. We need to expose these outrageous tactics, and we’re counting on you to help. Can you read these “5 facts about the anti-reform mobs,” then pass them along to your friends and family?

5 facts about the anti-reform mobs

1. These disruptions are being funded and organized by out-of-district special-interest groups and insurance companies who fear that health insurance reform could help Americans, but hurt their bottom line. A group run by the same folks who made the “Swiftboat” ads against John Kerry is compiling a list of congressional events in August to disrupt. An insurance company coalition has stationed employees in 30 states to track where local lawmakers hold town-hall meetings.

2. People are scared because they are being fed frightening lies. These crowds are being riled up by anti-reform lies being spread by industry front groups that invent smears to tarnish the President’s plan and scare voters. But as the President has repeatedly said, health insurance reform will create more health care choices for the American people, not reduce them. If you like your insurance or your doctor, you can keep them, and there is no “government takeover” in any part of any plan supported by the President or Congress.

3. Their actions are getting more extreme. Texas protesters brought signs displaying a tombstone for Rep. Lloyd Doggett and using the “SS” symbol to compare President Obama’s policies to Nazism. Maryland Rep. Frank Kratovil was hanged in effigy outside his district office. Rep. Tim Bishop of New York had to be escorted to his car by police after an angry few disrupted his town hall meeting — and more examples like this come in every day. And they have gone beyond just trying to derail the President’s health insurance reform plans, they are trying to “break” the President himself and ruin his Presidency.

4. Their goal is to disrupt and shut down legitimate conversation. Protesters have routinely shouted down representatives trying to engage in constructive dialogue with voters, and done everything they can to intimidate and silence regular people who just want more information. One attack group has even published a manual instructing protesters to “stand up and shout” and try to “rattle” lawmakers to prevent them from talking peacefully with their constituents.

5. Republican leadership is irresponsibly cheering on the thuggish crowds. Republican House Minority Leader John Boehner issued a statement applauding and promoting a video of the disruptions and looking forward to “a long, hot August for Democrats in Congress.”

It’s time to expose this charade, before it gets more dangerous. Please send these facts to everyone you know. You can also post them on your website, blog, or Facebook page.

Now, more than ever, we need to stand strong together and defend the truth.

Thanks,
Jen
Jen O’Malley Dillon
Executive Director
Democratic National Committee

——

Alinsky rules

The truth is in the healthcare bill itself. Read it, Jen. No smears have to be invented by the mobs

From what I have seen the mob “stands up and shouts” because the lawmakers won’t answer their questions – probably because they can’t because they haven’t read the bill.

What insurance companies and special interest groups are funding the “mobs”?

Which attack group has published a manual for the mobsters?

Name some people who are being paid to attend townhall meetings.

Maryland Rep. Frank Kratovil was hanged in effigy outside his district office – and where was your email/press release and outrage about this?

http://www.reuters.com/article/sarahPalin/idUSTRE49Q79N20081027 – both are disgusting

Rep. Kratovil hung in effigy by health care protester UPDATE

http://www.politico.com/blogs/glennthrush/0709/Rep_Kratovil_hung_in_effigy_by_health_care_protester_.html

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goofsmom 08.05.09 at 6:49 pm

Shelia7

Hey I have an idea… have your son ask a question… not one you write for him but one he comes up with himself…

“Out of the mouth of babes”

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Shadowfax 08.05.09 at 6:59 pm

Love all the items you have made for the PUMA store Dances.
I will go shopping as soon as the dust settles in my life.
Great job!!!!

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RememberNovember 08.05.09 at 7:50 pm

Did you notice Luckyseven posted earlier today that The house of Representatives authorized the purchase of THREE luxury corporate Gulf Stream jets even thought the Airforce only requested ONE. The bill ? $200 million.

Do you remember the outrage when CEOs of failing companies went to DC to testify to Congress by corporate jets? They were shamed….. Seems to me this government is failing – how come they get three new toys?

The government is failing and it is failing us.

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admin 08.05.09 at 7:59 pm

in honor of today’s victory, send Bill Clinton a birthday card:

http://whatcounts.com/dm?id=40F931F100140E9107021288BE7DFE356C022AE71FF0F40D

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RememberNovember 08.05.09 at 7:59 pm

Dances – thanks – I did circumnavigate the site but obviously missed that one. Some of the notecards will make nice presents – making my list :)

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HP Boston 08.05.09 at 8:13 pm

admin 08.05.09 at 5:03 pm

i think she’s wading into deep doo-doo and about to get herself banned Pers!!

somebody help the poor woman!

—————————————–
Here I am back from the great debate…. :evil: :shock: :lol:

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DancesWithPumas 08.05.09 at 8:19 pm

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HP Boston 08.05.09 at 8:30 pm

persephone 08.05.09 at 5:10 pm

go and get her, murphy.
valiant effort but inefficient use of resources

———————————–
No way to talk to a slammed closed door in your face…some things just can not change a closed mind. Not facts not polls, not reality, not resources, not much gets through hate.

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stoney42 08.05.09 at 8:48 pm

Sent President Clinton a Thank You. Wrote Senator Mikulski and said no obamacare. Wrote another DearJennie to AARP re: their support of obamacare. Wore my Hillary 2012 T-shirt today.

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simofish 08.05.09 at 8:54 pm

96# – thanks Dances !!

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admin 08.05.09 at 8:55 pm

“not much gets through hate.”

just realized the truth of this statement in a different context — thanks a million HP!

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DancesWithPumas 08.05.09 at 9:08 pm

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DancesWithPumas 08.05.09 at 9:09 pm

stoney42 08.05.09 at 8:48 pm
Sent President Clinton a Thank You.
Wrote Senator Mikulski and said no obamacare.
Wrote another DearJennie to AARP re: their support of obamacare.
Wore my Hillary 2012 T-shirt today.
————–
WOOT!
WOOT!
WOOT!
and
WOOT!!

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persephone 08.05.09 at 9:11 pm

HP Boston 08.05.09 at 8:30 pm

persephone 08.05.09 at 5:10 pm

go and get her, murphy.
valiant effort but inefficient use of resources

———————————–
No way to talk to a slammed closed door in your face…some things just can not change a closed mind. Not facts not polls, not reality, not resources, not much gets through hate.

HP
What I meant by that was
waste of a good PUMA’s time!
we missed you here :-)

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marie 08.05.09 at 9:18 pm

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marie 08.05.09 at 9:19 pm

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DancesWithPumas 08.05.09 at 9:19 pm

persephone 08.05.09 at 6:33 pm
hee hee
wear ripped jeans and flip flops to the townhalls or you won’t be taken seriously
http://hotair.com/archives/2009/08/05/boxer-protesters-too-well-dressed-to-be-sincere/
—————–
Say whaaaaaaaaa???
We have to dress down* to particpate in Democracy??????

*Well, not me. I dress so far down, I have to look up to see down. ;)

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DancesWithPumas 08.05.09 at 9:24 pm

From Marie’s 08.05.09 at 9:18 pm
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2309201/posts
Congressional town hell meetings
“oops wrong link”:

Nationwide Recess Rally
“Many of the original groups behind TaxDayTeaParty.com are joining together for the Nationwide Recess Rally. This is a collaborative effort to make it known that we will not stand for socialized, government controlled healthcare.” For more information, please visit the Nationwide Recess Rally homepage.”

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marie 08.05.09 at 9:27 pm

SNIP-
Obama: Master of ‘Manufactured Outrage’ [Guy Benson]

As the DNC and the White House desperately attempt to marginalize and bully the majority of Americans who oppose the government takeover of healthcare, they’re increasingly relying on their media allies to paint the widespread, genuine opposition as “manufactured” outrage voiced by “mobs” of “angry radicals.”

It doesn’t take a Ph.D. in psychology to conclude this knee-jerk demonization may represent an acute case of projection. Today’s Democratic party is led by a man who spent much of his adult life specializing in the art of public agitation. Acting as a top organizer for radical groups like ACORN, Barack Obama devoted years to prodding underprivileged Chicagoans to channel their political anger by orchestrating activist mob scenes—designed to

March 2007, the left-leaning New Republic printed a lengthy profile of Obama, entitled “The Agitator.” The entire piece is worth reading, but several excerpts stand out:

…After Obama arrived [in Chicago], he sat down for a cup of coffee in Hyde Park with a fellow organizer named Mike Kruglik. Obama’s work focused on helping poor blacks on Chicago’s South Side fight the city for things like job banks and asbestos removal. His teachers were schooled in a style of organizing devised by Saul Alinsky, the radical University of Chicago-trained social scientist. At the heart of the Alinsky method is the concept of “agitation”— making someone angry enough about the rotten state of his life that he agrees to take action to change it; or, as Alinsky himself described the job, to “rub raw the sores of discontent.”

…[Organizer] Kruglik remembers this episode as an example of why, in ten years of training organizers, Obama was the best student he ever had. He was a natural, the undisputed master of agitation…he could be aggressive and confrontational.

…Obama had already been applying Alinsky’s core concepts—rigorous analysis of an opponent’s strengths, a hardheaded understanding of self-interest as a fundamental organizing principle, a knack for agitating people to act, and a streetwise sense of when a raw show of power is necessary…

Now that ordinary Americans are rising up to voice their concerns before Congress tries to ram through a complex and risky healthcare overhaul, the party run by our Organizer-in-Chief has resorted to slandering those citizens and dismissing the authenticity of their worries.

Obama knows what manufactured outrage looks like. After all, he spent years as a skilled outrage manufacturer. Today’s frustration, however, is organic, real, and growing. Therefore, from Obama’s perspective, it’s extraordinarily threatening and must be stopped at all costs.

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RememberNovember 08.05.09 at 9:30 pm

Marie – thanks – both links were good – :)

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NikkisMom 08.05.09 at 9:33 pm

I decided I wanted to read this section on Advance Care planning myself, so tonight I posted a summary of Section 1233 – Advance Care planning here:

http://pumapac.org/2009/07/23/hr-3200-good-plan-or-rubbish/comment-page-5/#comment-360238

By the way, I’m also slated to read another section containing info on ‘rural’ hospitals that will be submitting medicare / and ‘public-option’ claims. I scanned through it tonight and found parts of it disturbing (ie, the hospital will be under the govt.’s thumb and will have to submit requests to the govt. when they want to try to increase their capacity, such as #of beds, equipment, floor space, etc.).

I’m tired, so I’m not going to try to tackle that one tonight. Ugghhhhh!!!!

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HP Boston 08.05.09 at 9:40 pm

DancesWithPumas 08.05.09 at 9:08 pm

HP
1st on the left:
http://www.cafepress.com/DancesWithPumas/6834850
————————–
Got it! Also the apron for my daughter,don’t want her stealing mine!
Thanks Dances you are the best!

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HP Boston 08.05.09 at 9:42 pm

Pers,
I know what ya meant….
I never meant to stay away so long but …………

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marie 08.05.09 at 9:43 pm

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2009/08/03/michelle_malkin_on_the_view.html

Michelle Malkin On “The View”

Columnist and commentator Michelle Malkin discusses her new book “Culture of Corruption” on ABC’s “The View.” Malkin gets in a heated discussion with co-host Joy Behar.

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HP Boston 08.05.09 at 9:47 pm

goofsmom 08.05.09 at 5:12 pm

persephone,

What’s up with HP????
———————————
Goofs I got smacked around at windashrieks……

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DancesWithPumas 08.05.09 at 9:47 pm

Marie, #108
Links, please?

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DancesWithPumas 08.05.09 at 9:48 pm

HP
smacked around? are you serious?

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DancesWithPumas 08.05.09 at 9:53 pm

#112 HP
I just wanted to show you that you are quoted on a t-shirt…
didnt mean for you to purchase anything…

sheeesh ‘what a revolting predictament this is’ (lou costello)

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marie 08.05.09 at 10:06 pm

Hillary Clinton racking up highest grades

http://reportcard.cnn.com/default_launch.aspx?deepQ=4

You can vote for Hillary

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HP Boston 08.05.09 at 10:06 pm

DancesWithPumas 08.05.09 at 9:53 pm

#112 HP
I just wanted to show you that you are quoted on a t-shirt…
didnt mean for you to purchase anything…

sheeesh ‘what a revolting predictament this is’ (lou costello
——————– I know I know but I wanted them and only I will see the damage to my visa card..I am not worthy!
Thank you again I love the America is broken one!

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DancesWithPumas 08.05.09 at 9:48 pm

HP
smacked around? are you serious?

Yup and I got banned and ridculed and called a bull shitter and a troll and they are very testy there and unkind to old women. yup their way or the highway said I called them names and I did not…smacked around yup. Treated me as if I were responsible for bad behavior at town meetings they are so
angry!

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DancesWithPumas 08.05.09 at 10:09 pm

HP
I’m so sorry. Maybe it’s because you’re close to 65 and 65+ are disposable commodities these days? Or maybe it’s because everyone has a teste day now and again??
Whatever, I’m sorry that happened to you. ((((HP)))

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DancesWithPumas 08.05.09 at 10:16 pm

HP
Now that I think of it, youre in good company.
I remember when they were putting themselves out there as taking the high road around the confluence conflict. They laid out their side of the argument, and let RD know she could end the conflict, that “the ball was in her court”. That it was up to her.

Then when Riverdaughter very politely detailed her side of the argument, another frontpager (gary) stepped in and announced that RD’s presence was upsetting some people, and if anyone wanted to continue teh debate, they could visit the confluence. Riverdaughter was effectively shut down, even though the thread was dedicated to laying it out on the table once and for all.

Muy bizarro.

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RememberNovember 08.05.09 at 10:17 pm

Sheila7

Perhaps you have gone for the day but just heard on greta that Claire McCaskill twittered or tweeted or whatever it is called and said that she disagrees that people with concerns about health care are manufactured “these are real folks, strong opinions”. At least your Senator is having town meetings and seems willing to listen. :)

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admin 08.05.09 at 10:21 pm

““these are real folks, strong opinions”.

well good for her. not being sarcastic. maybe she can let her party leadership and president in on that little fact.

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scarlet 08.05.09 at 10:21 pm

NikkisMom 08.05.09 at 9:33 pm
I decided I wanted to read this section on Advance Care planning myself, so tonight I posted a summary of Section 1233 – Advance Care planning here:
http://pumapac.org/2009/07/23/hr-3200-good-plan-or-rubbish/comment-page-5/#comment-360238
——————————

The bill does not say you must set up an advanced medical directive. Right? Although I support having one, but who knows what it will look like after all these professionals get through with you.

The arrangements for palliative care and hospice in place of treatment to prolong life is ok, IMO, but the bill does not confine itself to necessarily fatal illnesses. It contains abstract conditions such as chronic, progressive or life-limiting. The bill allows doctors to make an actionable medical order to limit some or all interventions. Doesn’t this give the government power to demand withholding treatment?

Is it mandatory that a person 65 or over to have the consultation?

This is what a representative said, but consider he may not have read the bill.

Rep. Blumenauer Defending ACP in H.R. 3200

America’s Affordable Health Choices Act (H.R. 3200) contains a provision (section 1233) that would provide Medicare coverage for people talk to their doctor about their wishes and care preferences at the end of life. This has prompted some groups to falsely claim that care planning consultations include “euthanasia,” that physicians would be required to “recommend a method for death” and that such consultations would be “mandatory every five years.” These claims are all blatantly false.
The provision included in H.R. 3200 simply allows Medicare to pay for a conversation between a patient and their doctor if the patient wishes to speak about their preferences and values. This benefit would be purely voluntary, and patients do not need to have this consultation if they do not wish to do so. The new Medicare benefit would allow doctors to be compensated for these conversations every five years, and more frequently if a patient has a life-limiting illness or health status changes.

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marie 08.05.09 at 10:30 pm

DancesWithPumas 08.05.09 at 9:47 pm

Marie, #108
Links, please?

http://media.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ODc2YTllNjU2ODlkYWIyMmQ4N2VkOTk1YWRlYTNkYWY=

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DancesWithPumas 08.05.09 at 10:33 pm

marie
Thank you.

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marie 08.05.09 at 10:33 pm

np

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goofsmom 08.05.09 at 10:36 pm

Dances,

#96 – Thank you… :)

(((((HPBoston))))))

You gotta stop hitting your head on those ideologicial brickwalls… it just frustrates you and pisses off the brick wall… :lol:

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sheila7 08.05.09 at 10:40 pm

I’m back.
HopePuma- thanks for the advice. I am going to be at the third one of the day so I’m a little concerned she won’t come, but I think she has to at this point.

NikkisMom- I really wish you could make it to. :(

Goofsmom- good idea about my son, I’ll tell him to think about that.

RemNov- thanks for the info. I didn’t see that on Greta. I have her on in the background but I didn’t hear that. I was wondering if she would come out and say something. It is obvious that the people at the meetings that she and Carnahan have been at are “real” people and these are the people that voted her in. Myself included. This is a tricky state to be a liberal in. People here are willing to vote Democrats in but they are also conservative in many ways and I could see her heading down a slippery slope here.
We’ll see what happens. It’s getting interesting.

Thanks all PUMAS for all of your support. I’m a somewhat shy person, although not what you would call a shrinking violet either, and I will be taking your spirit with me on Tuesday. :)

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HopePuma 08.05.09 at 10:43 pm

“not much gets through hate”. Profound thinking HP. True, but deep.

Is America falling apart? I know that the America I know and love isn’t what it used to be. It may be gone forever. I hope not, but it doesn’t look good right now. Here’s an interesting article about America falling apart. Will it break up into small “countries” of their own? http://www.slate.com/id/2224104/pagenum/all/

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sheila7 08.05.09 at 10:47 pm

Dances,
Hopefully you were right. My shirt is supposed to be here by Friday. Woot! Woot!

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admin 08.05.09 at 10:48 pm

“Thanks all PUMAS for all of your support. I’m a somewhat shy person, although not what you would call a shrinking violet either, and I will be taking your spirit with me on Tuesday. :)

why we keep going.

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LJSNAustin 08.05.09 at 10:50 pm

HP, I too have had the door slammed in my face at the same “town hall” meeting.

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BillieJo 08.05.09 at 10:50 pm

This poll is a ‘report card’ for the O’Fraud and his administration from CNN.
You can take the poll, and also see what the grades are for Obama, Joey B, Hillary, Health Care Bill, etc.

No one, nor any policy got an A or a solid B at all from those that voted. Since this is CNN and not Fox giving the poll, one would think the Obots would kiss their messiah’s ring…but not so.
One guess who got the best scores, between B- and C+, the highest scores from the two largest states, California and New York plus others….
……………….
…………………
…………………drum roll please…………
…………….
………………….
……………A-yup………… Hillary !!!!

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BillieJo 08.05.09 at 10:51 pm

Woops, here is the link to the poll….

http://reportcard.cnn.com/

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HopePuma 08.05.09 at 10:51 pm

Sheila7, remember this when you go tuesday. You are PUMA. Take the strength and courage of the PUMA with you. When you walk in there think this:
I am WOMAN… and I am PUMA… hear me ROAR!

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Luckyseven 08.05.09 at 10:52 pm

Okay, PUMAS –
We just read about sending “fishy” emails from our friends etc. to big brother -
Check this out
Of course, this was not on American tv
BIG BROTHER IS GROWING TALLER
Obama passing new law to allow searching of PC’s, Laptops, an?and media devices

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f18_1249308394

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BillieJo 08.05.09 at 10:53 pm

admin 08.05.09 at 10:48 pm

“Thanks all PUMAS for all of your support.
————–
What?????????
I haven’t read the posts lately, what is wrong {{{{{Murph?}}}}} I need to read what is going on………..

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HP Boston 08.05.09 at 10:54 pm

goofsmom 08.05.09 at 10:36 pm

Dances,

:lol: :lol: thanks for the hugs……

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sheila7 08.05.09 at 10:56 pm

BillieJo,
Nothing wrong. I’m just nervous about my town hall meeting Tuesday because I’m going alone. Actually, not so nervous anymore. :)

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sheila7 08.05.09 at 10:57 pm

She was quoting me. LOL.

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goofsmom 08.05.09 at 10:57 pm

Billie Jo,

Admin (Murphy) copied that section from Shelia7. Shelia is going to a townhall… Murphy is fine… :)

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sheila7 08.05.09 at 10:58 pm

HopePuma,
I will remember that. I’m ready. I doubt I’ll even be heard. At her last meeting she pulled questions from a hat so I’m trying to think of something unique so that I can get the floor.

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sheila7 08.05.09 at 11:02 pm

HPBoston,
Did you tell them to bugger off? :lol: :lol:

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admin 08.05.09 at 11:07 pm

hiya BillieJo, yup everything’s fine here. I was just reminded of how important we are to each other. even from great distances from each other.

and no, I have not been hitting the muscle relaxers OR the jameson’s.
;-)

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BillieJo 08.05.09 at 11:09 pm

(((HP)))
What, were you mistreated at a TownHall meeting and kicked out? What t-shirt did you have on.
Sorry, I can’t follow all of what was going on?

I propose that any PUMAS that go to any townhall or protest from now on, take a Flip video recorder or your camera cell phone and take photos of what is happening if you can. We need documentation if possible, but don’t risk your safety if you feel there are thugs around you.

This really ticks me off………..

No way in Hell should an American be intimated into submission of hopelessness!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That does it, I am going to find a townhall near me and kick up shit for you HP!!!

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Luckyseven 08.05.09 at 11:10 pm

I just received this and signed it.
http://www.freeourhealthcarenow.com/

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BillieJo 08.05.09 at 11:12 pm

{{{{{Murph}}}}

hiya BillieJo, yup everything’s fine here. I was just reminded of how important we are to each other. even from great distances from each other.

and no, I have not been hitting the muscle relaxers OR the jameson’s.
;-)
————
Thank God you are okay Murph and you are a little dynamo in a cute little pink dress. If you go to your townhall meeting, remember we are all there with you in spirt. Take your video camera, camera phone if things get wild so there is documentation. Take Mama with you if you can, she will kick up some shit too. Love ya Murph.

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BillieJo 08.05.09 at 11:15 pm

Murph – while you are on the blog, what do you think about PUMAs setting up video conferences in the future to talk to each other. Like a group of Eastern PUMAs meeting at the same day the Calif PUMAs meet, and set up a computer at each end with a webcam and use free skype to connect?

It would be so great!!!!!!!!!!!

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Swannie 08.05.09 at 11:17 pm

Cheez Louise!!!! They hung Frank Kratovil in effigy … I am in his district ……things can get rough here on the Eastern Shore …I keep trying to tell people that… but they think it is all like Ocean City but it is NOT .. wow .. couldn’t a phone call do ?

and BTW the reason for the extreme secrecy about the copywright dealand getting onto your laptop without any authorization… is because that will really upset the young OBOTS that are still addicted to the kool aid , that is their domain … the laptop , mp3 players, and file sharing generation …they will go nuts so lets by all means get that information out to them !

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BillieJo 08.05.09 at 11:20 pm

goofsmom 08.05.09 at 10:57 pm

Billie Jo,

Admin (Murphy) copied that section from Shelia7. Shelia is going to a townhall… Murphy is fine… :)
————–
Oh Sheila and Goofsmom…thank you for letting me know.

Soooooooooo glad our Murph is okay and Sheila, don’t be afraid.

If it is too frightening for you when you get there, just say what you are comfortable saying. You always have to judge your behavior by your surroundings. Remember that polling place with two huge guys standing outside looking like they were bouncers? That is a place I wouldn’t be outspoken if I were alone.

You have a right to go, speak your mind and feel safe.

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BillieJo 08.05.09 at 11:25 pm

Luckyseven 08.05.09 at 10:52 pm

Okay, PUMAS –
We just read about sending “fishy” emails from our friends etc. to big brother -
Check this out
Of course, this was not on American tv
BIG BROTHER IS GROWING TALLER
Obama passing new law to allow searching of PC’s, Laptops, an?and media devices

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f18_1249308394
—————
Well, he had better sit down when he searches my computer. I have all kinds of stuff that doesn’t make him look good at all.
A$$hole on a stick!
He sounds more and more like the brown shirt Hitler.

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DancesWithPumas 08.05.09 at 11:28 pm

Billie
No, HP was at a virtual townhall meeting where people on the right beat her over the head for her opinions, most of which were misinterpreted… questioning statements based on assumptions is not allowed, and apparently anyone who disagrees is labelled as calling the owners “obots”.

It’s way bizarre … change a few words and it is exactly what the obots did during the primaries and election campaign… Now I’m wondering if that’s where the hyper-sensitivity comes from?
Instead of “racists”, accuse people of calling you an “obot”; have a different opinion than that of the frontpager and you’re a republican or a ratfucker.
Long on lip. Are you questioning me??? You’re in moderation… or maybe I’ll just demean and insult you? oh hell, how about just ban people outright. Besides, the drama brings us traffic that lordygoddessbuddha knows our writing won’t.
… that’s what BFF are for.

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DancesWithPumas 08.05.09 at 11:33 pm

Hey Murphy…
what the fuck is this???:

taggles
Murphy,
You’re a sell out and I don’t want to have anything to do with you or PUMA Pac, please don’t ever visit The Widdershins again. I’ve lost all respect for you.
How’s that for an obot tactic??
———————-

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DancesWithPumas 08.05.09 at 11:35 pm

oh man……..what a piece of work. LOL!!!
and some wonder why I don’t trust anyone … save one or two or a few.

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persephone 08.05.09 at 11:36 pm

dances
why am I awake?

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BillieJo 08.05.09 at 11:38 pm

Wow, I just discovered that the little pole at CNN I posted above gives even more details than I realized…a few things I see looking deeper:

Hillary’s scores in Calif
Score of ‘A’ (A+,A,A-) = 33%
‘B’ = 24%
——————– So far, that’s 57%

Obama’s scores in Calif
Score of ‘A’ (A+,A,A-) = 37%
‘B’ = 12%
——————— So far, that is 49%

In this pole, just in California, 8% of CNN pole voters think
Hillary is doing a better job than Obama

*****************

Heh, the only area where Obama gets a ‘B-’ is DC (his highest score),

all the states give him between a C+ to a C-.

Looks like the koolaid is really becoming toxic.

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BillieJo 08.05.09 at 11:43 pm

DancesWithPumas 08.05.09 at 11:28 pm

Billie
No, HP was at a virtual townhall meeting where people on the right beat her over the head for her opinions, most of which were misinterpreted… questioning statements based on assumptions is not allowed, and apparently anyone who disagrees is labelled as calling the owners “obots”.

It’s way bizarre … change a few words and it is exactly what the obots did during the primaries and election campaign… Now I’m wondering if that’s where the hyper-sensitivity comes from?
Instead of “racists”, accuse people of calling you an “obot”; have a different opinion than that of the frontpager and you’re a republican or a ratfucker.
Long on lip. Are you questioning me??? You’re in moderation… or maybe I’ll just demean and insult you? oh hell, how about just ban people outright. Besides, the drama brings us traffic that lordygoddessbuddha knows our writing won’t.
… that’s what BFF are for.
—————–
Heh, sorry HP for your being treated badly.
Guess it goes to show that Repubs only want folks with their talking points there……….
PUMAs are in a class of their own, not buying bs from either side.

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persephone 08.05.09 at 11:46 pm

Billie Jo

HP was treated badly on a PUMA blog, by dems.
not republicans.

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sheila7 08.05.09 at 11:50 pm

Thanks BillieJo. I’ll be fine. The area I’ll be in are people a lot like me.
You’re right, PUMAS are in a class of their own.

You’re right Murphy, we are all important to each other. This is my one safe haven to find some sanity in this increasingly insane world.
(((Murphy))) and thanks for all you do.

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RememberNovember 08.05.09 at 11:50 pm

HPBoston

Sorry about your encounters earlier today. :( You should have told them to “bugger off”. I read through the entire thread just now – I had asked where you were earlier so that we could come help but did not get a reply. :(

Murphy, good job countering with facts instead of insults. Classy. – wondering if I will still be welcome here. Reading through that other blog I certainly don’t belong there – not that I have ever been tempted. Have experienced a single payer system for most of my young adult life and for my parents and friends – I just don’t care for it and certainly am not in favor of it here. You support a single payer system and so does BO. From way back in 2003 it has been clear that is what he wants and I think that this is what HR3200 is designed to do. I have not read it all yet but it appears to me that he keeps talking about all these choices and exchanges etc.. but the Bill seems to be designed to move everyone over to a government controlled system eventually – not immediately but over time, 5-10 years. We need health care reform but we don’t need HR3200 IMHO. What we need is time to figure all this out!!

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DancesWithPumas 08.05.09 at 11:51 pm

persephone 08.05.09 at 11:36 pm
dances
why am I awake?
—————
because you’re here and not there?
There is usually a good place to read OPs when you want to fall asleep really quickly, except for when one or two of them have one of their psychotic breaks due to a lack of comprehension, and tone deafness… then it’s no more interesting, just anger provoking.

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sheila7 08.05.09 at 11:51 pm

As far as the Widdershins… Fuck ‘em!

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DancesWithPumas 08.05.09 at 11:54 pm

Guess it goes to show that Repubs only want folks with their talking points there……….
————-
Probably. That must be the reason it’s called “left leaning”…
in order to lean left ones orientation has to be to the right.
A small overlooked detail.
The devil is in the details.

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persephone 08.05.09 at 11:54 pm

what are OP’s?
*obnoxious pumas?*
:twisted:

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RememberNovember 08.05.09 at 11:56 pm

Ha! I was trying to be obtuse and now I see it’s all been discussed above – Pumas behaving badly IMO. As I said Murphy – Class, classy, whatever :) It’s so nice that Pumas on this blog are more open to discusssion.

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DancesWithPumas 08.05.09 at 11:57 pm

persephone 08.05.09 at 11:54 pm
what are OP’s?
*obnoxious pumas?
—————-
obnoxious people, depending on the blog in question. The term PUMA is adopted a bit too lightly, me thinks.

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RememberNovember 08.05.09 at 11:59 pm

That’s telling them Sheila7.

Glad you asked Persephone – what is OP Dances?

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persephone 08.06.09 at 12:01 am

I agree dances
any other names people could use instead?

Psycho-PAC, Nasty-PAC, The PAC-stabbers…?? help me out here :-)

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RememberNovember 08.06.09 at 12:02 am

PAC-stabbers is great!!

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marie 08.06.09 at 12:03 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4zfxIJuiXU

Glenn Beck: Dis-dis information Czar

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DancesWithPumas 08.06.09 at 12:03 am

OP = Original Post (like Murphy’s at the beginning of every new thread)
sometimes OP = Original Poster.

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DancesWithPumas 08.06.09 at 12:07 am

RememberNovember 08.05.09 at 11:56 pm
Ha! I was trying to be obtuse and now I see it’s all been discussed above
—————-
Sorry, RemVem, but you know me… despite BillieJo’s best efforts to train me to be diplomatic… I just say what I have to say, even if I end up with egg on my face later.
I’ve never been the type to lick your face while I’m peeing on your leg.

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persephone 08.06.09 at 12:10 am

you awake too, RemNov?
it’s the moon, i tellya!

if billie jo is doing online diplomacy classes can i get tuition reimbursement if i join?

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persephone 08.06.09 at 12:12 am

we are in deep shit:
1 USD
=
0.6943 EUR
U.S. Dollar
0.07%
Euro

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kat in your hat 08.06.09 at 12:17 am

Well I tried posting something over there about an hour ago and taggles immediately deleted it and said something about not saying anything disrespectful about Widdershins so don’t waste my time posting there. It’s a tiny absurd echo chamber. Taggles pulling that BS with me. Now I have no fucking respect for her. NONE. goodnight.

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DancesWithPumas 08.06.09 at 12:17 am

wait
$1US = 0.6943EURO
0.07% ?

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RememberNovember 08.06.09 at 12:18 am

((Dances))

I’ve never been the type to lick your face while I’m peeing on your leg
———————

You crack me up! :) I was taking my cue from Persephone and Murphy earlier because they did not respond to my question about going to hep HPBoston! :) They were probably did not notice :) . I love that yoiu tell it like it is and deal with it later. :lol: :lol:

Persephone

Yes I’m still awake but it’s early here – went to look and cannot even see the moon. I’m really tired though – feels like it should be past midnight.:) Probably all this stress. We need a stressed Smiley. :)

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DancesWithPumas 08.06.09 at 12:18 am

KIYH
You must have said something like ‘the sun will rise in the east tomorrow”.

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RememberNovember 08.06.09 at 12:22 am

Hello Kat. Nice to see you :)

Did you tired Pumas move your decimal point over one?

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admin 08.06.09 at 12:23 am

Nighty-night Kat.

it IS the moon that’s keeping us all awake.

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DancesWithPumas 08.06.09 at 12:23 am

kat in your hat 08.06.09 at 12:17 am
Well I tried posting something over there about an hour ago and taggles immediately deleted it and said something about not saying anything disrespectful about Widdershins so don’t waste my time posting there. It’s a tiny absurd echo chamber. Taggles pulling that BS with me. Now I have no fucking respect for her. NONE. goodnight.
————————–
must be something in the water… sounds like: droolmaid.

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persephone 08.06.09 at 12:26 am

Rem, sorry I didn’t answer about HP, I missed that.

I copied and pasted that currency info right from one of the financial blogs-maybe it’s a projection of things to come..

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DancesWithPumas 08.06.09 at 12:26 am

Now I have no fucking respect for her. NONE. goodnight.
—————–
One question:
What took you so long?

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DancesWithPumas 08.06.09 at 12:33 am

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Luckyseven 08.06.09 at 12:35 am

Lanny Davis wants you photographed and investigated
By Michelle Malkin • August 5, 2009 03:10 PM

[Lanny Davis] decries the taxpayer counterinsurgency — and calls on left-wing hitmen to photograph and investigate Obamacare protesters to prove that they are being “paid” by the “Republican right” to express their opinions and demand accountability from their congressional representatives (never mind that so many of these protests have been aimed at Republicans who have betrayed their principles).

Via Politico:

The “shout downs” organized by the Republican right meet one of the classic definition of “fascist” tactics–defined as using shouting and disruption to deprive the civil and respectful debate of ideas. There is literally no defense to these tactics. I don’t criticize those who feel genuine anger or fear and show up to meetings to express those emotions. But I do call out the tactic of screaming and disrupting a meeting and the fact that this is a systematic tactic by thugs who want to prevent civil discourse, not promote it.

Let’s have the media name names, publish photographs, and do interviews of those responsible for approving, even organizing these techni[q]ues. And let’s find an investigative journalist – are there many left – to prove these so-called grassroots shouters are, or are not, being paid.
http://michellemalkin.com/2009/08/05/lanny-davis-wants-you-photographed-and-investigated

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Puma-SF 08.06.09 at 12:35 am

Okay, now I am really pissed. I had to confirm off line with Dances that what she posted was true and then I went to see for myself. Murphy you are Number One in my book. I’m trying to be good but I feel like saying some really bad stuff right now. Who wants to vent?

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DancesWithPumas 08.06.09 at 12:37 am

I’ve already had my turn, Puma-SF

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DancesWithPumas 08.06.09 at 12:38 am

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persephone 08.06.09 at 12:40 am

dances LOL!!
cheezeville!

you get that louie prima stuff stuck in your head and you’re screwed for weeks..
i eat antipasto twice just because she is so nice..angelina
angelina
waitress at the pizzeria…

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RememberNovember 08.06.09 at 12:41 am

Persephone – no problem – it’s really easy to miss things :) I probably wouldn’t have been much help anyway but it’s good to show support.

[I copied and pasted that currency info right from one of the financial blogs-maybe it’s a projection of things to come..]

Well that’s what may happen once they start printing the money and inflation kicks in – say it won’t be so :(

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Puma-SF 08.06.09 at 12:41 am

Alright but this movement goes nowhere without Murphy and us Puma’s. I’m sick of being called names by people that should know me better. If it’s some idiot on the street I could give a rat’s ass. I mean I still care but it doesn’t mean much. I’m in a perpetual state of anger. But when it’s someone that I trusted who acts like bat shit then that’s another story. Go right a lousy play about it.

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FLBarbara 08.06.09 at 12:44 am

I can not sleep either. Went over to the site so I could follow what was being said here.

There is a saying IF you can’t defend then attack. That is exactly what was done by the MOB over there. They attacked.

HPBoston you were on target.

Murphy you also were on target and I admire your ability to remain gracious during an assault.

I really can not believe this is about Americans wanting to voice their concerns.It is sad.
I wish I had known this was taking place I would have like to add that I am part of WE the people so respect my right to disagree.
Respect my right to protest my disagreement and I will respect yours to do the same.

They can’t defend so they attacked…how very sad.
At least with the Obots you expect it.

Hugs to HPBoston and Murphy. I am proud of you.

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kat in your hat 08.06.09 at 12:45 am

Dances,

Well, I always tried to be respectful, but if she wants to keep that place as some kind of wackaloon echo chamber, how can anyone respect that shit? Can’t. It’s fucking WEAK.

That place and their wannabe high horse shit-talking BS. So fucking condescending and for what? GD uninteresting IDEAS too. Nothing original. just blah blah blah. Like 2008 never happened. wtfever

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RememberNovember 08.06.09 at 12:46 am

No point going over there to say it Puma-SF – it will only be deleted. Makes you appreciate our Puma home and why WE are here and not there. Thank you Murphy for your example and thanks for our home. :)

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DancesWithPumas 08.06.09 at 12:47 am

persephone 08.06.09 at 12:40 am [edit]

dances LOL!!
cheezeville!

you get that louie prima stuff stuck in your head and you’re screwed for weeks..
i eat antipasto twice just because she is so nice..angelina
angelina
waitress at the pizzeria…
————–
Exactly!!
A co-worker gave 2 of us paisani a louis prima cd each… every so often we’d sync up and blast the entire floor with “angelina”… just to clear everyone’s minds!

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Luckyseven 08.06.09 at 12:48 am

Unfortunately, the bill proposed by House Democrats has all the bad ideas from previous versions, plus a trillion dollars in new spending and no long-term solutions that will actually solve our health care problems. Following is a brief summary of the bill:

http://www.ncpa.org/pdfs/House_Health_Care_Reform_Bill_Web.pdf

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admin 08.06.09 at 12:49 am

dang, now they’re talkin all italianate and stuff.

what’s an angelina?

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Puma-SF 08.06.09 at 12:50 am

RemNov: No worries, I’m not going over there.

KatinHat: Condescending is right. I guess they get their talking points from Obama.

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DancesWithPumas 08.06.09 at 12:50 am

Angelina is a woman’s name.
:roll:

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Puma-SF 08.06.09 at 12:51 am

right=write I may need a time out.

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PumaRhythm 08.06.09 at 12:52 am

(((((Murphy)))) ((((HPBoston))) ((((PumaPac))))

I just deleted Widdershins from my bookmarks……to be truthful ….I stopped clicking on it a long time ago….only go over when Murphy is over there.

I’m tired so it’s off to bed for me….my Mom had a mild heart attack a few days ago and I’ve been stressed out….but I still check in Pumas!!

this is soooo cute….you’re going to love this..
Nia singing “Backstabbers”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9qmJoob_ik

G’night PumaPac Warriors….sweet dreams

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persephone 08.06.09 at 12:52 am

Puma SF do you want to sit on the naughty step? you’ll be in good company :-)

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DancesWithPumas 08.06.09 at 12:53 am

Puma-SF
I wouldn’t go that far…
maybe just the tactic… shut down civil opposition, shut down counter arguments, shutdown friendships because you can’;t fucking READ.

PS I hated madB’s plays too.

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goofsmom 08.06.09 at 12:57 am

((((((((Murphy, HPBoston and all PUMAPAC)))))))))

You all rock!!!!!

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DancesWithPumas 08.06.09 at 12:57 am

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Puma-SF 08.06.09 at 12:58 am

persephone: I think I was born on the naughty step.

dwp: exactly, did you see the DNC video? I like my First Amendment right.

PSS Me, too at least I hated the ones I actually took the time to read.

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kat in your hat 08.06.09 at 12:58 am

(((PumaRhythm))) I’m sorry about your mom. sweet dreams to you.

You are always so nice and supportive of this blog and everyone. xo
_________

I should head out of here before I say anything worse about THAT PLACE.

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goofsmom 08.06.09 at 1:00 am

Dances,

Now that tshirt slogan really works even against pseudo-pumas…

http://www.cafepress.com/cp/moredetails.aspx?showBleed=false&ProductNo=400939640&colorNo=1&pr=F

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Puma-SF 08.06.09 at 1:02 am

dances: I’m trying to find a video of Van Morrison’s “Moondance” for Murphy. Do you have it?

PS I’m smiling.

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DancesWithPumas 08.06.09 at 1:02 am

“shit or get off the pot”???
oh fuck, man…
Me thinks some teste folks need to take a xanax or two and hide their useless keyboards

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goofsmom 08.06.09 at 1:03 am

Dances,

Thanks, great to hear Louis Prima again… :lol:

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persephone 08.06.09 at 1:03 am

#206 you’re killing me! :lol:

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sheila7 08.06.09 at 1:03 am

Goodnight PUMAS. Take care.

PumaRhythm- sorry to hear about your mom.

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goofsmom 08.06.09 at 1:04 am

(((((PumaRythym and Mom))))))

Sending lot of love, prayers and thoughts… :)

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persephone 08.06.09 at 1:04 am

Is murphy a Van fan?
he’s great.

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goofsmom 08.06.09 at 1:05 am

Kat,

#208 – why hold back… we are free here to say want we want… besides I’ve missed your rants… ;)

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DancesWithPumas 08.06.09 at 1:06 am

219

goofsmom 08.06.09 at 1:06 am

Night Shelia7… sweet dreams

220

BillieJo 08.06.09 at 1:06 am

post 154 -

I read the posts at Widdershins and tried to post, but so far it isn’t showing up…just in case it is deleted, I will post it here for Taggles to see:

taggles permalink

Murphy,

You’re a sell out and I don’t want to have anything to do with you or PUMA Pac, please don’t ever visit The Widdershins again. I’ve lost all respect for you.

How’s that for an obot tactic??
————–

Taggles, I met you many times in Denver and I have blogged with you for over a year, mainly on PUMApac before you started Widdershins.

Now this is ‘your’ blog and I see you have warned everyone that you will delete their message if you don’t like it…but is is a very sad day when you get so upset with fellow PUMAs and say something like what you said to Murphy.

This isn’t about blog turf, this isn’t about being more of a ‘liberal’ then someone else. This also isn’t about ‘sending’ PUMAs off to support Republican astroturf tea parties…what it is about is being able to argue political differences with one another, without making personal attacks when you disagree with other PUMAs.

I expect more of you Taggles, but then, who am I, probably just another PUMA that posted and you will delete my message too.

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kat in your hat 08.06.09 at 1:08 am

@ 220

I didn’t see that comment!

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DancesWithPumas 08.06.09 at 1:08 am

LOL persephone!!
I owed you one for that do re mi vid you posted while I was rv’ing

angelina…….

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Puma-SF 08.06.09 at 1:10 am

pers: I don’t know but she mentioned the moon and that song was the first thing I thought of.

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DancesWithPumas 08.06.09 at 1:11 am

DancesWithPumas 08.05.09 at 11:33 pm
Hey Murphy…
what the fuck is this???:

taggles
Murphy,
You’re a sell out and I don’t want to have anything to do with you or PUMA Pac, please don’t ever visit The Widdershins again. I’ve lost all respect for you.
How’s that for an obot tactic??
———————-

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persephone 08.06.09 at 1:12 am

dances did you not like it?
i loved all the looks of surprise on people’s faces

must sleep
zoomazooma..

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goofsmom 08.06.09 at 1:12 am

Billie Jo,

#220 – very nice and very well said… Brava… (((claps)))

I haven’t been to Widders because I don’t want their hit counter to go up… I want them to just fade into obscurity…

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Puma-SF 08.06.09 at 1:13 am

And what the fuck about this at HP:

madamab permalink
HP – Okay, so that 70% came from your *ss then. Fair enough. No wonder I smelled bullsh*t.

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RememberNovember 08.06.09 at 1:14 am

((PumaRhythm)) and hugs to your ((Mom)) too – hope she will soon be feeling well again.

Sweet Dreams everyone – may the moonbeams light your way ….
‘Night Pumas :)

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persephone 08.06.09 at 1:14 am

..hereinafter referred to as the blog that shall not be named..

fav line from Devil Wears Prada…:”thats all..”

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Puma-SF 08.06.09 at 1:17 am

We need to start our own blog talk show.

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goofsmom 08.06.09 at 1:17 am

RemNov…. sweet dreams to you too…..

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PumaRhythm 08.06.09 at 1:18 am

Thanks! Kat in your hat,sheila7 and goofsmom!!!!!!
PumaPac is my home 4 Ever!!!

Kat it is so good to see you back!!!

Good nite Pumas …will see ya in the morning!!

Pumas Rock!!!
ps Dances…..thanks for the cooool vids….you have me rockin now!!!!

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admin 08.06.09 at 1:19 am

love love love that song Puma SF!

van morrison’s been singing along in my head since I read your comment!

:lol:

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persephone 08.06.09 at 1:20 am

van will sing you to sleep (sweet thing)
louis prima, notsomuch..

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goofsmom 08.06.09 at 1:20 am

Nighty-night PumaRhythm….

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RememberNovember 08.06.09 at 1:21 am

Mmmmmm ((goofs)) ‘night ‘night –

sleepy yet Persephone?

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DancesWithPumas 08.06.09 at 1:22 am

Puma-SF
Gracious leftistfeministsripoffsacredpaganritualsname hosts, aren’t they?

And taggles telling Murphy to shit or get off the pot??
Bwaaaaaaaaaahaahhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaa
Maybe we should join in their (bowel) movement and do all their prowls, and letter writing campaigns, and actions, and political research, and activist teams… maybe we’d really really get somewhere faster then… oh, wait… I forgot… they don’t have any.

Murphy takes the obot attacks for the Pumasphere…
Fuck ‘em.
“We’re close, we’re very, very close friends.” …. my ass.

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goofsmom 08.06.09 at 1:23 am

I’m gonna go lurking now… I have a terrible time sleeping with the moon… Usually starts 2 day before full moon… weird dreams.. sigh..

Nighty-night lovely PUMA’s… XOXOXOXO

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persephone 08.06.09 at 1:23 am

rem im dying!
shlogging it back to bed now.

if the puma police show up please wake me

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DancesWithPumas 08.06.09 at 1:24 am

fake fucking fabricating lip

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goofsmom 08.06.09 at 1:25 am

Dances,

#237 – Ohhhh…. great burn on ‘em Dances… :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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persephone 08.06.09 at 1:26 am

237
and you could make shittershins tshirts on cafepress?

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DancesWithPumas 08.06.09 at 1:26 am

Sorry Murphy
I can’t seem to restrain myself right now.

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goofsmom 08.06.09 at 1:26 am

persphone,

#239 – won’t let you miss out on the fun…

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DancesWithPumas 08.06.09 at 1:28 am

The Shittershins:
Diarrhea of the Mouth

no wonder they asked Murphy to get off the pot… they have much use for it.

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Puma-SF 08.06.09 at 1:29 am

I’m hugging Murphy right now. Yeah, shittershins is right but a radio show is a good idea, right?

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BillieJo 08.06.09 at 1:29 am

persephone 08.06.09 at 1:26 am

237
and you could make shittershins tshirts on cafepress?
—————–
Now that is DAMN funny!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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DancesWithPumas 08.06.09 at 1:30 am

The Shittershins:
Intellectual Constipation

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goofsmom 08.06.09 at 1:30 am

Puma-SF,

Yep a Pumapac radio show… not some phoneybaloneyholierthanthou show…

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goofsmom 08.06.09 at 1:31 am

Dances,

#248 Very naughty… hehehe… :lol:

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BillieJo 08.06.09 at 1:31 am

Dances is getting very protective of Murph…we feel the same.

Sherri is on a rant, too bad, I didn’t always agree with her, but I liked her for all she did for PUMAs during the primary.

Taggles, you owe Murphy a big apology.

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DancesWithPumas 08.06.09 at 1:32 am

Puma-SF
I don’t know…
how does one measure the effectiveness of a blog radio program?
If done right, there’s a tremendous amount of time that goes into one, if it’s any good… production, lining up hosts, research, weekly / daily commitment, etc.

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Puma-SF 08.06.09 at 1:33 am

BJ: You are right. I’m sure she owes Murphy and apology for a lot of things. I was such a HUGE fan of Taggles. Now, she’s feels like my Nancy Pelosi.

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DancesWithPumas 08.06.09 at 1:34 am

BillieJo 08.06.09 at 1:31 am
Dances is getting very protective of Murph…we feel the same.
————–
It’s natural to feel protective of goodness… there’s so little of it, as evidenced on The Shitter.

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kat in your hat 08.06.09 at 1:37 am

yeah, that’s what taggles deleted from me. I asked them what kind of ACTION they do besides complaining, etc. Then I mentioned the ERA and how they go on and on about it but PUMA PAC works on actions regarding ERA. I said some other stuff. yep. Totally missed what taggles said to murphy. Maybe she thought I was being retaliatory after the fact or whatever the eff. I was just going off in general. pfft. coincidence. I WOULD HAVE said something in my post about that if I saw it. disgusting. After all this time.

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Puma-SF 08.06.09 at 1:37 am

Here I sit broken hearted. Came to shit but only farted.

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BillieJo 08.06.09 at 1:38 am

Puma-SF
I know what you mean, I am disappointed in Taggles’ outburst and anger, yet so proud of Murphy for not stooping to that level.
Murphy holds a lot inside, which can’t be healthy, so we go into attack mode when she is unfairly treated.

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BillieJo 08.06.09 at 1:42 am

(((kat in your hat)))

yeah, that’s what taggles deleted from me
———-
I think Taggles will be watching the blog to see the blow back from her attack of Murphy. Feel free to send her your message here since we are probably all banned from that site.

First it’s an attack on TC, now PUMApac…who is next?

She attacks enough PUMA sites, she will be on her own little island…alone.

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goofsmom 08.06.09 at 1:43 am

_________________________________
DancesWithPumas 08.06.09 at 1:34 am

BillieJo 08.06.09 at 1:31 am
Dances is getting very protective of Murph…we feel the same.
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It’s natural to feel protective of goodness… there’s so little of it
_____________________________________

Ditto…. :)

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Casper Cat 08.06.09 at 1:44 am

HEY, Pumas just checking in…. Long day….Phew!!!! after reading quickly through the post… Well, this is for OUR MURPHY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2XcqKaXDIY And, for all our wonderful and dedicated Pumas…. :smile: :wink: Dwp… Missed YOU!!!! :wink: Oh, I agree with DWP….. Absolutely!

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goofsmom 08.06.09 at 1:46 am

CasperCat,

There you are… did you get my mail yesterday??? :)

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admin 08.06.09 at 1:47 am

and now for some GOOD news.

She Who Laughs Last posted,

take it upstairs!

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Puma-SF 08.06.09 at 1:47 am

BJ: Taggles has been an agitator lately. I love the woman and honestly believe she has good intentions but she has derailed.

Murphy is better then all of them and she is smarter. Plus she is so cool.

They did the same thing to Riverdaughter. I love Riverdaughter and these morons tried to destroy her.

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DancesWithPumas 08.06.09 at 1:49 am

Patriarchal men broke the legs of women, figuratively speaking (in this case), and were the last ones able to stand…
If rumproasters, widdershins (blashemy co-opting the name of a sacred pagan ritual), and stupidpumas do the same to PUMA, then they will claim (faux) victory, being the best, the golly gee goodest, the most effective, the most organized, the most powerful, the voice and leader of PUMA.

Obama did the same to Senator Clinton.

Silence those you pretended to be allies of…
undermine valid points with name calling*, demeaning remarks*, intellectual dishonesty. Destroy everyone’s credibility, twist words*… make false accusations*… pile on*, and you win**.

*Karma is a bitch.
**Win: the means justifies the ill-gotten end.

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BillieJo 08.06.09 at 1:54 am

Oh I see Dances is still really pissed…………..

I understand Dances and won’t try to hold you back. We all love Murph.

I see Murphy has put a tempting new post up, Hillary…
but I don’t want to taint Hillary sweet face with Taggles rant on Murphy.

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kat in your hat 08.06.09 at 1:55 am

Well, I presumed taggles and murphy knew one another not just on blogs but in person and from radio show and perhaps other ways offline, so there are memories there, I would think, that run deeper than say with someone like me, who is just an online voice…ya know? You know what I mean. So it surprised me to read that. I thought it was straight up cold, mean and intolerant. Nasty.

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goofsmom 08.06.09 at 2:00 am

Kat,

#266 – Yep, and to do it on her blog instead of a personal message to Murphy… putting it up for the world to see… very hard hearted…

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sheila7 08.06.09 at 2:04 am

Well,
I was going to bed and then decided to read what went on over there. Are you fucking kidding me? I didn’t want to bring it to the new thread but had to vent. Now I really stand by my original comment.
FUCK ‘EM!!! :evil: :evil:

That was totally uncalled for.

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BillieJo 08.06.09 at 2:11 am

Ya, funny how we don’t want to rant on Hillary’s page about Taggles.

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DancesWithPumas 08.06.09 at 2:12 am

KIYH
“I thought it was straight up cold, mean and intolerant. Nasty.”
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Exactly.

“We’re close, we’re very, very close friends.” –st*

*just more dribble.

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goofsmom 08.06.09 at 2:12 am

BillieJo,

:lol:

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BillieJo 08.06.09 at 2:14 am

I see that they have shut down the posts on that nasty ass thread.

I hope Taggles feels like crap tomorrow for her attack and comes and posts an apology to Murphy tomorrow…then again, I am the resident dreamer. :lol:

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BillieJo 08.06.09 at 2:15 am

((((Goofsmom))) Yup!

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Puma-SF 08.06.09 at 2:16 am

BJ: If you don’t have a dream how you gonna have a dream come true?

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DancesWithPumas 08.06.09 at 2:17 am

I’m furious.
It’s not what they’ve said… it’s who they are.
Yammering about principles?? good god almighty.

“We’re close, we’re very, very close friends.” –st*

*just more ‘principled’ dribble.

Hey fuckwittedshins: Words mean something.

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goofsmom 08.06.09 at 2:19 am

Puma-SF

#275 – Happy talk.. South Pacific… do I get a prize??? :)

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goofsmom 08.06.09 at 2:20 am

Dances,

Yep, Hypocrisy sucks…

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Puma-SF 08.06.09 at 2:22 am

Yes, that was awesome. Good job. I saw them filming this today from the rooftop of my office. It was really cold and windy and the fog was rushing in. Originally they were supposed to meet in the middle and form a giant “T”. How much do you think this propaganda cost?

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/08/05/BUAI194H4K.DTL

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DancesWithPumas 08.06.09 at 2:30 am

BillieJo 08.06.09 at 2:14 am
I see that they have shut down the posts on that nasty ass thread.
I hope Taggles feels like crap tomorrow for her attack and comes and posts an apology to Murphy tomorrow…then again, I am the resident dreamer.
——————-
BillieJo
You really are dreaming… when was the last time tagteamtaggles
defended Murphy on that blog? NEVAH in the times that I’ve read that blog. Not a peep when PatJ went illogicalstupid trashing Murphy because of comments made when M was traveling and I was recovering from surgery.
Not. One. Peep. From. BFF.
Or when madB mashes Murphy / Puma PAC. Nope. Not a peep.

“We’re close, we’re very, very close friends.” — ST

my, my, my.
Shame. On. You.

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kat in your hat 08.06.09 at 2:35 am

BillieJo #273 Yeah, I think that might happen. Well, it would be the nice thing (and smart thing) to do, I think.

If there is no apology or mending or whatever, I say ignore em. Let them keep going on with their insult-a-pal thing. Seems to get them the most attention when they do that, so just look the other way since it seems designed to be a distraction at this point.

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DancesWithPumas 08.06.09 at 2:37 am

Murphy is better then all of them and she is smarter. Plus she is so cool.
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That’s the reason the don’t /can’t argue points with Murphy and have to resort to name-calling, threatening moderation (pffffft) banning people, and closing the threads for comments.

Like the other fucking brownshirts.

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DancesWithPumas 08.06.09 at 2:38 am

weasleshins

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DancesWithPumas 08.06.09 at 2:47 am

Puma-SF 08.06.09 at 1:47 am
Taggles has been an agitator lately. I love the woman and honestly believe she has good intentions but she has derailed.
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I found taggles to be insightful, intuitive, politically knowledgable, very quick, and funny. I agree, I think she has derailed. I’m not aware of what pressures are upon her.
Time to wish her well and let it go.

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kat in your hat 08.06.09 at 4:21 am

@ #283 I agree Dances. I wish her and everyone well. I really don’t get why there had to be STRICT, COMPLETE and TOTAL agreement on EVERY issue in LOCKSTEP, instead of agreeing to disagree on some things and working together on the issues all see eye to eye on. Makes logical sense to me. More productive that way.

ah well. gnight. see you around here and on twitter. xo

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