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murphy 07.08.09 at 10:07 am

I hope, I wish, I pray……..not anyone in either party I WANT to vote for unless of course The Secretary of State wishes to run…………as an INDEPENDENT!

The 9th ring of Hell awaits his arrival.
Ahhhh hell is much to good for him……….

Good morning Pumas! I hope this poll is “the tip of the iceberg” and that his support is eroding faster than a ice cube melts on the Florida beach in August.

On my way out to “I owe, I owe, it’s off to work I go”, but wanted to share this link with you. Camille Paglia has a pretty good take on the media, as well as a pretty interesting view of Pain. You might be interested in it:
http://www.salon.com/opinion/paglia/2009/07/08/reader_letters/

Just as a “preview” these are a few choice words she used about the media:
“preening bullies, cackling witches, twisted cynics and pompous windbags”, LOL.

Rasmussen at MINUS 5 !

Restores my faith in the American People.

Now, lets, kick the bum to the curb.

Do you think he should be impeached or just disqualified?

“pompous windbags”. Yep.
Sorry she tossed in “cackling witches” though… unless we’re to assume the other three are twisted preening pompous pricks.

Ohio has historically leaned Republican, but the repubs have been running the state for a long time and doing outrageous things, so we elected a dem governor last time (Strickland). Everything he has done has enraged the populace since he came into office and is now threatening to cut every program that benefits the people. Jennifer Brunner was outrageous as SOS during the last election paving the way for an Obama win in Ohio (but HRC still beat him in the primary). I don’t think she has a prayer of winning any office in Ohio any more.

In the Dante Inferno test I scored level 6 – Heretic. The heretic part I understand (I’m not very religious), but basically I’m a good person. Honest, I am.

in Massachusetts, the Democractic State Treasurer has dropped out of the Dem Party in advance of what most predict will be a run against Deval Patrick as an Independent.

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Yup in Mass the State Treasurer could not be anointed by the freaking Dem’s so he gets no support and NO MONEY….the gods of democracy have spoken…pisses me off enough to vote for him! na na na na na

Deval Patrick sucks…just another lousy know nothing twerp!

This is a provocative piece from Pam Meister.

‘So why the constant harping on things like Palin’s Naughty Monkey high heels? I guess it’s okay to dress to the nines for a social butterfly in Manhattan, but not okay for a conservative hick like Palin who seems to be at home in a pair of jeans, a work shirt, and a shotgun over her shoulder. The only gun I can imagine Dowd with is one of those teeny little derringers that fit into a beaded clutch handbag next to the Bobbi Brown lipstick — if, of course, she could bring herself to touch it’.

http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/dont-hate-sarah-palin-because-shes-beautiful/

Level 6? Great, we’re neighbors!
Level 7 here… with Zee and WaterPanther. WOOT!!

persephone 07.08.09 at 10:41 am

BCL-I’m going to level 6 too!
I can bring my Iphone, right??
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Wow am I ever in good company…gonna really enjoy my time in hell and here I was not gonna go, silly me!

We can blog and text between levels…
look at the company we’ll be in.
Cupcakes, lobsta…
what more do we need? oh, a bathrobe, please.
So, what’s so hellish about Hell?

And that snot deval has dissed and snubbed some very savy women!

BTW – I agree about sanford – stupid pig of 1st degree; don’t particularly care about jackson – he did nothing that really affects my life – but his crap about palin gets my irish up – I sure hope she runs as an Independent………………will get my vote

geez HP Boston – watch it – somebody is gonna call you a racist – don’t cha know????

July 8, 2009
Emanuel faces liberal pressure over ‘trigger’ comments
From CNN Political Producer Rebecca Sinderbrand

WASHINGTON (CNN) — The president’s health care reform package — which has faced resistance from conservatives who oppose a public insurance option — came under attack from liberals yesterday, with most of the fire focused on White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel.

Emanuel’s apparent suggestion in a Wall Street Journal article published Tuesday that the White House would be willing to consider a “trigger” clause on a public option — to delay full implementation of the plan if insurance companies met certain conditions on coverage and cost — drew outrage from liberal members of Congress and MoveOn.org, which has poured millions of dollars into a campaign supporting the president’s health care proposal.

more at cnn.com

Brook is a a hollowed out has been, who the hell cares what he writes…he wants to keep his job and all the money he gets for saying what the boss wants him to write. And he is butt ugly! He blows with the wind and he just blows………

murphy started it:

http://www.kickasscupcakes.com/Flash/episode2/episode2.html

persephone 07.08.09 at 11:13 am

not as good as the trunk monkey!!!! I gotta get me one!

We could institute a Daily Sow, Murphy. Just for the girlz who think they’re really one of the boyz.

Deranged Dowd and the women she loves..to hate…….Dowdy Dodd and the women who’s beauty drive her bonkers……

Good morning Dances. Were you at the Michael
Jackson [RIP] memorial?

2PumaSisters
No, ma’ams. They ran out of tickets before the appointed deadline to honor the Ticketmaster vouchers. S’okay though.

He said, “I don’t know what to tell you,ma’am- maybe you’ll hit the lottery.”
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Sounds like osackocrap’s plan for everything.

Dante Test – I am in Limbo – First level of Hell.
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Just wrote to Dem. Senators Hagen (NC), and Mikulski(MD). Asked that they vote NO on Cap and Trade, table the Health Care reform until at least the fall, and to please read All bills, large or small, before voting on them.

http://www.addpoll.com/results?35020,succes

Mark Rubin poll
http://www.examiner.com/x-6572-NY-Obama-Administration-Examiner~y2009m7d8-An-Examiner-poll-Would-you-be-willing-to-pay-higher-taxes-for-government-paid-health-insurance

Dances – check out this panoramic view of the Staples center yesterday, yipes… We did have better seats as you mentioned.
Hope you have recovered from the driving and emotional tug.
I am feeling better today, yesterday was difficult.

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-michael-jackson-memorial-pano,0,1769911.htmlstory

((DancesWithPumas))

Happy to know you are feeling better. Grief is like that… it doesn’t get better, it gets different.
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Yes, you’re right, feeling a little numb is better than emotions on overload.

DANCES: It’s the PUNCH if they have it coming, I think
that’s where the “violence” thingy came in,

I said “yes” and I got the HIGH on violence too.
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I answered “no”.

Persephone #28, yes. BIG-TIME! I am noticing it as well particularly since she resigned from Gov. I got strung up nastily yesterday commenting on this on another PUMA blog. Some “Dems” are so afraid to vote for her that it seems they’re crossing over to the dark side and actually starting to take part in the mob mentality. Very interesting…I guess.

LJSN
Would any of them be the very same PUMAs who voted for John McCain (as a protest)?

LJSN
Thought that might be the case… them, not you.
Interesting, no? Internalized sexism? Hypocrisy? Yammering sans action?
::: shaking head back and forth:::

DancesWithPumas 07.08.09 at 1:29 pm

“Rather, think of the Democratic Party as what it really is: a criminal organization masquerading as a political party.”
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Perfect.
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Word.

DWP LJSN

To them I say, we must go forth into battle with the woman we have

Palin will most likely run for president.

She is a bazillion times better than Obama.

Repeat, Obama is the alternative.

On that note, the choice to support Palin seems pretty goddamned reasonable to me.

The only things I know for sure about palin
are:
she resigned as governor of Alaska, and
she isn’t being investigated by the FBI .

Everything else is hearsay and speculation.

DANCES: It’s the PUNCH if they have it coming, I think
that’s where the “violence” thingy came in,

I said “yes” and I got the HIGH on violence too.
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I answered “no”.
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All I could think of with that question was in the movie
DIE HARD, when she (Holly) punched the reporter for putting her
children in danger —YUP, he had it coming:

As far as the NO—-you got me, why the violence thingy
came up, I’d bet you hit something wrong somewhere, and
didn’t realize it.——-of course nothing wrong with
Level 7—–you got alot of good company

(((((((PUMAS)))))))))

Murphy, excellent post and news on “O”s polls…

Running around like a chicken today… will be lurking as I can… Love all ya marvelous pumas… BBL

dances

don’t you love how in my mind I have Palin winning the repub primary and running against Obama? I really think it’s a possibility.

i believe women could carry Palin all the way to the White House if they all got behind her.
a *big FU, get out* to Obama.

question is, will they do it?

Hi Murphy–

just poped in to thank you for reminding us of Violet’s wonderful compilation of Big Media’s Sexism for Hillary (we put it in our Must Reads today) when i noted you mention Mary Oliver.
oh my she is a wonder!
I trotted over to office bookshelf and pulled a galley of Oliver’s sent to me~04. I want to send you a poem of hers that really rocks my world.
“Can you Imagine?”
I won’t over parse it, that is the job of the reader, but I will say the unrest of a soul is captured brilliantly here. For me, it is the soul of the bound and who is more bound in so many cultures than our women.

Sorry to gush, but Oliver is a gem!
here is a link:
http://www.panhala.net/Archive/Can_You_Imagine.html
I hope you check it out!

ps. no i don’t have any investment in Ms. Oliver:-)
just a totoal love of her work!
best!
Femisex

persephone 07.08.09 at 2:00 pm
dances
don’t you love how in my mind I have Palin winning the repub primary and running against Obama? I really think it’s a possibility.
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There isn’t anythimng wrong with affirmative thoughts, I just can’t see arguing and debating over something that, as it stands now, is just a projection of imagination.
Everything, all things are possible, but until something reaches some stage of fruition… eh, why bother? I mean, it’s a fun exercise for a few minutes, but beyond that, :::shrug:::.

Dances,

#81 – so true… It’s fun to dream but we always have to work with the realities of life and politics… I’m waiting to see what happens and working on making things better for future women candidates… whomever they may be…

Shadowfax 07.08.09 at 2:20 pm
Checking jobs on craigslist I just ran across this after a few clicks:
Donate your eggs!!! Students, mothers & professionals welcome! $7500+
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It’s a painful process. I knew a student of acupuncture who considered it as a way to earn extra cash… don’t recall the details of the process, but she decided not to do it because it was a long and painful process.

dances!

#60
Aniem

That Kahane piece is downright scary.

‘In Saul Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals, “the fourth rule is: Make the enemy live up to their own book of rules.” This is the book that “Reset” Rodham (what ever happened to her?) and BHO II grew up reading and continue to live by. If you don’t understand that that’s the way we see you — as the enemy — then you’re too dumb to survive. Remember that for us politics is not just an avocation, or even just a job, but our life. We literally stay awake nights thinking up ways to screw you. And one of the ways we do that is by religiously observing Alinsky’s Rule No. 4′.

OUCH!!!

Oh well, take comfort in the fact that SP has not wasted a single nanosecond of her life as an Alinsky acolyte. I guess Wasilla is just too gosh darn far from Chicago.

“Rather, think of the Democratic Party as what it really is: a criminal organization masquerading as a political party.”

Someday maybe there will be a thread about the death of the Democratic Party as we knew it. Sorry, but I don’t think the “old” democratic party was a criminal organization. I don’t think JFK was part of a criminal organization. I’m not entirely sure about Carter. I don’t think William Jefferson Clinton was. BUT something happened where it (IMHO) went through a metamorphosis; but instead of changing into something better (like into a butterfly for example) it morphed into something from The Godfather. The Godfather was ok as a movie, but I sure don’t want to be in the middle of it in “real life”. I keep hoping I’ll wake up and the dem party will be what it used to be. Or was I imagining things back then? Was it already morphing into this anti “we the people” “machine” back when I was thinking it was good? Was I just seeing the flashes of what was good that was left back then, and the rest was already morphing? I don’t know. I just know that what it is now I don’t know anymore; and what I do know I don’t like.

persephone,
no thanks. I’m not trying to be competitive with this… will just take a wait and see approach. If she does run, and is the only woman running for the presidency, I will vote for her, as far as I know from where I sit now.
Okay? Happy? I indulged the fantasy. Now put the evil back in your pocket until it is really warranted, pleasethankyou.

The NRO article is snark. “David Kahane is a conservative screenwriter writing under a pseudonym taken from the movie, The Player.

“David Kahane” was born two years ago to explain the ways of Hollywood and the hard left to those of you on the center-right in a way that is both authentic and, I hope, amusing. Another conservative voice blathering in our echo chamber about the Stalinist conformity of Hollywood would just have been ignored. But every crazy notion that flows from Dave’s pen has its foundation is something that someone on the Left is actually thinking or saying, and to judge by the hate mail Kahane gets from lefties who finally have figured out that he’s mocking them, the truth hurts.

http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=NjVmM2U5YjYzMjY3NTA4ZDAzNTVkZjE0NjMyY2Y1Mjg=

Hi Cinie: Yeah, I think we knew that.

not understanding what your trying to tell us.

Michelina, I was trying to tell you it was snark. I was pretty clear on that.

cinie: yes you where, and I understand what SNARK is,

It’s the “conservative” I was questioning that you
were pointing out.

I thought there was a point behind it,
if not, ———-OKAY

#54 Henry
About Arlen Specter
All I want is an answer: Is he for or against. No response here either.
This used to be a swing state, now I’m afraid it’s taken over because of ACORN in Philly and now Specter.

I have alot of admiration for John and Bobby Kennedy, but they were no angels and JFK’s win is pretty much accepted to be because of the shenanigans of Richard Daley of Chicago. Sound familiar.

Democratic leader – Steny Hoyer, laughs at the citizens asking them to read their bills. Yeah, you jerk-wad, it’s just a million laughs a minute coming out of Washington, isn’t it? How dare the low-lifes out here in the real world ask you nit-wits to actually *read* a bill before passing it, before it costs us even more of our hard-earned money? Hell, this is the stuff made for late-night comedy shows isn’t it?!

http://nalert.blogspot.com/2009/07/democratic-leader-laughs-at-idea-that.html

#104 Rancho
Definately want to see it! Can you post it please?

Yes normapapuma. THANK YOU for asking!
It’s long!

Coming!

More Cupcakes from Gallup (record low):
date, Total % Approve, Total % Disapprove
Jun 28-30 2009,63,30
Jun 29-Jul 1 2009,61,30
Jun 30-Jul 2 2009,62,31
July 1-3 2009,60,33
Jul 2-5 2009,59,34
Jul 3-6 2009,58,35
Jul 5-7 2009,56,36
SOURCE: http://www.gallup.com/poll/113980/Gallup-Daily-Obama-Job-Approval.aspx
Copyright @ 2009 Gallup Inc. All rights reserved.

House of Representatives
List of Rep. WOMEN NOT Co-Sponsoring H.R. 406-To award a Congressional Gold Medal in recognition of Alice Paul’s role in the women’s suffrage movement and in advancing equal rights for women.)

*Indicates WOMEN who DID co-sponsored H.R. 1243-To provide for the award of a gold medal on behalf of Congress to Arnold Palmer in recognition of his service to the Nation in promoting excellence and good sportsmanship in golf. This bill was initiated by Rep. Joe Baca 3/2/09 and passed the House 4/28/09. It has been moved on to the Senate. http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/thomas

Rep. Michele Bachmann Minnesota
*Rep. Tammy Baldwin Wisconsin
*Rep. Melissa Bean Illinois
*Rep. Marsha Blackburn Tennessee
*Rep. Corrine Brown Florida
Rep. Ginny Brown-Waite Florida
Rep. Shelley Moore Capito W. Virginia
*Rep. Lois Capps California
*Rep. Kathy Anne Castor Fllorida
*Rep. Rosa L. DeLauro Connecticut
Rep. Jo Ann Emerson Missouri
*Rep. Anna G. Eshoo California
Rep. Mary Fallin Oklahoma
*Rep. Virginia Foxx North Carolina
*Rep. Marcia L. Fudge Ohio
Rep. Gabrielle Giffords Arizona
Rep. Kay Granger Texas
Rep. Deborah Halvorson Illinois
*Rep. Jane Harmon California
Rep. Mazie Hirono Hawaii
Rep. Lynn Jenkins Kansas
*Rep. Carolyn Kilpatrick Michigan
*Rep. Mary Jo Kilroy Ohio
Rep. Ann Kirkpatrick Arizona
*Rep. Cynthia Lummia Wyoming
*Rep. Carolyn McCarthy New York
*Rep. Candice Miller Michigan
Rep. Sue Myrick North Carolina
Rep. Nancy Pelosi California
Rep. Chellie Pingree Maine
Rep. Cathy Rodgers Washington
*Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen Florida
Rep. Linda T. Sanchez California
Rep. Stephanie Sandlin South Dakota
Rep. Allyson Schwartz Pennsylvania
Rep. Louise Slaughter New York
*Rep. Jackie Speier California
Rep. Niki Tsongas Massachusetts
*Rep Maxine Waters California

*Co-Sponsored H.R. 1243-To provide for the award of a gold medal on behalf of Congress to Arnold Palmer in recognition of his service to the Nation in promoting excellence and good sportsmanship in golf. This bill was initiated by Rep. Joe Baca 3/2/09 and passed the House 4/28/09. It has been moved on to the Senate

H.R.1243
Title: To provide for the award of a gold medal on behalf of Congress to Arnold Palmer in recognition of his service to the Nation in promoting excellence and good sportsmanship in golf.
Sponsor: Rep Baca, Joe [CA-43] (introduced 3/2/2009) Cosponsors (302)
Latest Major Action: 4/29/2009 Referred to Senate committee. Status: Received in the Senate and Read twice and referred to the Committee on Banking, Housing, and Urban Affairs.

HopePuma 07.08.09 at 3:27 pm
Things are never simple now, if they ever were and especially politics. I hate it.

Rancho 07.08.09 at 3:19 pm
I JUST DISCOVERED THIS . . .HR 1243 http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/thomas Passed IN THE HOUSE, and now is in the Senate for review, which would provide for the award of a gold medal on behalf of Congress to ARNOLD PALMER in recognition of his service to the Nation in promoting excellence and good sportsmanship in GOLF! This bill received over 300 co-sponsors, INCLUDING 19 WOMEN WHO SUPPORTED THIS BILL AND DID NOT CO-SPONSOR ALICE PAUL’S HR 406, (to award a Congressional Gold Medal in recognition of Alice Paul’s role in the women’s suffrage movement and in advancing equal rights for women.)
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Disgusting! Goddamned shmucks.

Head is pounding! Sorry!
Correct AGAIN link #118 the Arnold Palmer Bill is # 1243 NOT 1232.

Rancho 115

So, Nancy Pelosi did not support the award for Alice Paul????

Another reason to call her a hypocrite. As if we needed one.

I like Rancho’s idea to have a “Clueless” award for the women who don’t support other women (since they are not eligible for the Daily Pig award).

We could also call it the “Brainwashed” award because obviously Patriarchy has blinded or co-opted them.

Democratic Leader Laughs at Idea That House Members Would Actually Read Health-Care Bill Before Voting On It

Wednesday, July 08, 2009

Washington (CNSNews.com) – House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) said Tuesday that the health-care reform bill now pending in Congress would garner very few votes if lawmakers actually had to read the entire bill before voting on it.

“If every member pledged to not vote for it if they hadn’t read it in its entirety, I think we would have very few votes,” Hoyer told CNSNews.com at his regular weekly news conference.

Hoyer was responding to a question from CNSNews.com on whether he supported a pledge that asks members of the Congress to read the entire bill before voting on it and also make the full text of the bill available to the public for 72 hours before a vote.

In fact, Hoyer found the idea of the pledge humorous, laughing as he responded to the question. “I’m laughing because a) I don’t know how long this bill is going to be, but it’s going to be a very long bill,” he said.

http://www.cnsnews.com/public/content/article.aspx?RsrcID=50677

Rancho,
So NONE of the ones on the list agreed to co-sponsor plus the ones with * co-sponsored golf award?

Big Cat Lover, Dragonfly, Dances

Breakdown of HR 406 Co-Sponsors

96 Democrat (31 are women)
-14 Republican (2 are women-Mary Bono from CA is one -Sonny’s wife))
-77 men
-33 women

The following are CA women who are NOT co-sponsors
Nancy Pelosi (D-08) !!
Jackie Speirer (D-12)
Anna G. Eshoo (D-14)
Maxine Waters (C-35)
Jane Harmon (D-36)
Linda Sanchez (D-39)

normapapuma #129
Yup 39 WOMEN have NOT sponsored Alice Paul’s bill for a medal, and of those 39, 19 think Arnold Palmer should have one, for ALL that he did for golf.

Hi PUMABEAR! I’m sorry to have missed the SO CAL meet-up. Get my post card? I sent an email when I got in. My body clock is now adjusted to the 8 hour difference, but we go back next Tuesday, and it starts all over again!

BigCatLover 07.08.09 at 3:36 pm

Rancho 07.08.09 at 3:31 pm
Do you have any idea of the breakdown by party of these women. I recognize alot of dems, but many names I don’t know.
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Did you want a breakdown, matching name to party?

“If every member pledged to not vote for it if they hadn’t read it in its entirety, I think we would have very few votes,” Hoyer told CNSNews.com at his regular weekly news conference.

Ummm, would that be a good thing for America?

Just a question: how many female republicans in the senate? The House of Reps?

thanks for the link, normapuma #128! I hadn’t seen that site yet.

Even the video of OshitIsuck saying the bills would be online for 5 days is a big joke now.

Rancho 07.08.09 at 3:45 pm
BigCatLover #120
Of the 39 women not supporting HR 406, 25 are Democrat and 14 are Republican.
What REALLY upsets me are the 19 of the 39 that DID support a medal for a golfer. THEY WOULDN’T EVEN HAVE A JOB IF IT WASN’T FOR ALICE PAUL! CAN THEY SAY THAT FOR ARNOLD PALMER?
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Exactly!!

I think attacking women (i.e. pig / sow awards) will just cause them to more strongly attach themselves the men.

By the way… what’s going on with the Puma PAC ERA team? Any progress? I think devoting energy toward the Alice Paul Gold Medal is a good gesture, but only a symbolic one, whereas getting the ERA passed would benefit the greater many.

Rancho,
I think the unreturned calls, etc. are more effective than a graphic on the blog. I think there are more women than we realize who have pricks in their heads. I favor supporting women, with the prickishwomen maybe getting a clue when they realize those who support women will be receiving support in like turn.

I thought this was settled?
“Judicial Watch Asks Court to Declare Hillary Clinton Constitutionally Ineligible to Serve as Secretary of State”
http://www.judicialwatch.org/news/2009/jul/judicial-watch-asks-court-declare-hillary-clinton-constitutionally-ineligible-serve-se

re: #150
Sorry, nowhere near good enough…

“Wisconsin same-sex couples to be allowed to form legal partnerships

BY TONY WALTER
twalter@greenbaypressgazette.com

Same-sex partners in Wisconsin soon will have many of the rights of married couples.

The 2010-2012 state budget signed last week by Gov. Jim Doyle includes a provision that allows same-sex partners to form a legal domestic partnership.

The measure takes effect Aug. 1 and includes 43 of the more than 200 rights and benefits extended to married couples, including taking family and medical leave to care for a seriously ill partner, make-end-of-life decisions and have hospital visitation rights.”

more at:
http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/article/20090707/GPG0101/90707137/1978

Dances . .
By the way… what’s going on with the Puma PAC ERA team? Any progress? I think devoting energy toward the Alice Paul Gold Medal is a good gesture, but only a symbolic one, whereas getting the ERA passed would benefit the greater many
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Agreed! However, even though viewed as a gesture by some, the underlying
impetus for supporting the bill was to EDUCATE the masses re. Alice Paul as the primary initiator of ERA, and the 19th amendment. (“A Trojan Horse” so to speak.) BUT IF WE CANNOT EVEN GET ANY RECOGNITION OF THIS BILL, ESPECIALLY BY WOMEN!, HOW CAN WE EVEN HOPE FOR A CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT FOR ERA, WHEN STATES HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS SINCE THE 70′s? When asked, most people I come in contact have NEVER heard of Alice Paul,and think ERA is a Constitutional amendment.

Of the 75 female Reps. 39 have NOT voted to co-sponsor H.R. 406. How much progress could we make re.ERA!, especially with THEM!

As I said before, CLUELESS women really upset me! WE are our own worst enemies!

“Not near good enough” Dances. But a small step is better than no step. It’s usually easier to get more things approved once the “dam has broken” with some beginning steps than to get 100% all at once.

The article seems to imply that this is the first state to enact such a provision. Is that true?

Even CNN sees the writing on the wall:

NEW YORK (CNN) — They are two presidents from different parties but have striking similarities.

Former President Ronald Reagan and current President Obama are incredibly popular ( TWO of the WORST Presidents we have EVER had), and both faced rising unemployment early on.

Reagan’s experience (His experience ruined California as governor) could be instructive for Democrats today; the GOP lost 26 seats in the 1982 elections. Reagan’s popularity could not trump double-digit unemployment.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/07/08/politics.high.unemployment/index.html

HopePuma 07.08.09 at 4:50 pm
“Not near good enough” Dances. But a small step is better than no step. It’s usually easier to get more things approved once the “dam has broken” with some beginning steps than to get 100% all at once.
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Although I appreciate your perspective, I’m too old to agree with you. These small steps are the crumbs they throw out to garner/retain a specific demographic voter base. They’ve been tossing us crumbs for decades. Either the US believes in equal rights for all citizens or it doesn’t. Apparently too many don’t, so the US may as well stop with the idealistic propagandist bullshit.

HopePuma,

I think a lot of us are confused, but that in itself is a political strategy. The political psy-ops blitzkreig we are living through is an ordeal.

What’s interesting, however, is that many people who developed PUMA websites knew instinctively and had an adverse reaction to the O&Co takeover. As rank-and-file Democrats, PUMAs were not supposed to do that. And then PUMAs got the message that we are not ALLOWED to do that and were castigated accordingly (bitter knitters! roe v. wade! covert republicans! whatever). This movement in itself is an extraordinary achievement in light of the propaganda and strong arm tactics used by the new Dem-thugs.

Unfortunately, the gangsters on the Republican side are not much of an alternative. But I think the Republican rank-and-file is waking up to that, given the trashing of Governor Palin. We may have rallied for Hillary, but Sarah will be their rallying figure. Interesting, that two dynamic women are catalysts for a rehaul and new scrutiny of an increasingly corrupt political system and the lowlife politicians inhabiting it.

If we are going down partisan pissing contest alley-let’s remember Repubs supported the ERA befire Dems did..can we just get it back on the table already?

If dems are such fucking heroes they are in power right now-why don’t they get this done once and for all?

The Republican Party included support of the ERA in its platform beginning in 1944, renewing the plank every four years until 1980.[3] The ERA was strongly opposed by the American Federation of Labor and other labor unions, who did not want to compete with women,[3] as well as by Eleanor Roosevelt and most New Dealers, who contended that women needed government protection that men did not. The Act was opposed by most northern Democrats, who aligned themselves with the anti-ERA labor unions and supported by southern Democrats.[3] Beginning in 1972, the Democrats included support of the ERA in their platform.[3]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equal_Rights_Amendment

Sometimes women don’t know that they are being ASSHOLES unless we point it out to them.

#13 BigCatLover
I don’t think she has a prayer of winning any office
in OHIO any more.
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Are you really saying, that OHIO will not vote for HRC
even if she were to become INDEPENDENT???

Isn’t the ERA dead? If so it must start from scratch with a sound set of arguments which will be propounded on both sides.
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I agree that we must start from scratch, with a new strategy.

Doing nothing because something bad might happen is never a strategy.

Who knows-maybe Repubs would see an opportunity for redemption/re-election/re-establishment of cred.
Fine. If it would get the ERA passed
in enough states to make it federal law let them knock their conservative selves out..

‘Purge’ of Inspectors General Raises Concerns About Political Interference

The government’s top watchdogs are quickly becoming all bark and no bite, say critics who call the recent “purge” of inspectors general a warning about limited transparency in the Obama administration.

WASHINGTON — The government’s top watchdogs are quickly becoming all bark and no bite, say critics who call the recent “purge” of inspectors general a warning about limited transparency in the Obama administration.

“The mounting evidence that there might be political interference with the IGs is disturbing,” said Pete Sepp, vice president for policy and communications at the National Taxpayers Union. “The IGs are being emasculated.”

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/07/08/purge-inspectors-general-raises-concerns-political-interference/

Persephone,

Don’t think it’s so much a pissing contest by changing political realities.

Dems were half Dixicrat through 1980 when Reagan created the “revolution” that put the south in the repub column. The southern states have been by and large the civil rights hold outs of the nation.

Ther used to be more diversity among repubs now virtually all are conservatives.

If the rebubs are such heroes why did they drop it from their plank why did they defeat it in 1972 and in some cases rescind their votes?

Now that women make up a greater portion of union membership things are different.

NOPE, the ERA isn’t dead. No use reinventing the wheel, here is a website that tells what is currently going on…

http://www.eracampaign.net/

Don’t count on the Repubs to get the ERA passed, no matter what may have gone on decades ago, they are the same people/groups that are preventing same sex marriage from passing. Mainly the Mormon, Catholic, christian churches and prolife groups!!!!!!!!!!!

Also, BettyJean’s radio show has been all about the new NOW leaders taking a more active roll in helping pass the last 3 states for the ERA. The new current leader has been working on the ERA passage for YEARS!

I feel like some of us have been whispering in the wind with this info.

Re the email from Women Count, WTF?!?!? They are almost talking out of both sides of their mouth!! Support women running for office! (but just not Palin.) I’ve had it.

Either you support women or you don’t. At this point, what the hell is the difference between Dem and Repub? Both parties are rotten to the core anyway. Like someone else posted somewhere, we can deal with “issues” once we get parity!

Did anyone call C-Span’s Washington Journal this morning and ask Senator Ben Cardin, member of the Judiciary Committee if he was sponsoring the ERA? He was on to support the nomination of Sotomayor and taking alot of heat for that when a caller asked him if he was a sponsor of the ERA. He was startled and said he had voted for it before, but other things were more important now.
http://www.c-span.org/Series/Washington-Journal.aspx

The ERA is legally dead.Court decided it could not revive the effort to get the last 3 states. It must begin again and get state by state support.
I’m not saying don,t do it. Just that the game may have changed. Personally, I think giving anybody support without extracting something in return is dangerous. To examples: Obama and gays and Clarence Thomas and Blacks. .

PUMAbear 07.08.09 at 6:02 pm

The ERA is legally dead.Court decided it could not revive the effort to get the last 3 states. It must begin again and get state by state support.
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No PUMAbear, that’s not true… please read post 181. This was discussed by a female attorney that has worked to pass the ERA for years on BettyJeans blogradio show.

The ERA is not dead, it pops up from time to time on radio shows and tv and in print. It’s not dead, women just stopped pushing for it. I say push away again and let the backlash be dammed.

The easiest way to publicize the ERA is to hand out cards with the simple words of the amendment and let people try to explain why those simple words are dangerous, which is the reason given before for not passing it. Most people have no idea what the ERA says.

stoney42
The sad thing is that when I speak to women about the ERA, they either don’t know about the needed ratification, or don’t seen to care enough to do anything about it.
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It’s not their fault that they don’t know what is going on, people need to be educated. There is so much spin to defeat our ERA rights that women don’t even realize they only have the right to vote in the constitution.
I have linked the ERA websites for months and people that do care pass over them.
That’s why I said a little ERA group on our blog has little change of doing much because it takes a village to educate women to work for their civil rights. Most think they already have it.

So frustrating.

DancesWithPumas
Shadow
I believe the new regime of NOW has passing the ERA activism on their agenda.
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Yes they do. The new president has very serious intentions of working on it and on BettyJean’s radio show when the NOW Pres was on, another woman that BettyJean had on before, an attorney that has worked on the ERA for years called in and they talked about working together, doing a grassroots thing to educate people.

I posted this stuff on the blog and normally no one notices.

That’s cool, I don’t expect others to necessarily read my posts, it’s just frustrating when misinformation is passed and the ERA is thought of as dead in the water.

Shadowfax,

I’m not passing misinformation. I hadn’t heard about the latest strategy.

Pumabear
I’m sorry if my comments to you were cranky.
It may be time for me to “get out of the computer,” as my grandmother says.

DWP, LJSN,

Who said to do nothing? Me? Are you kidding me? I was fighting the good fight back in the sixties when I could’t try on the clothes in the department store. But I also know movements can be undermined from within often by seeming friends.

It wasn’t just Blacks who benefitted fom the civil rights movement, everybody did,gays, Asians, prisoners. America did.

The battle for rights was fought by strong heroic people and sometimes the few who make it to the top are all to willing to take the benefits and pull up the drawbridge.

Pumas should check out Billie Jo’s ERA flyer in the Action Center. It exposes some ERA myths and is very informative. Print out some.

PUMAbear, I don’t remember saying anything to the effect that we should “do nothing”, and I’m certainly NOT advocating that. Thank you for fighting the good fight all of your life. It is because of women/people (don’t know if you are a woman) like you that many of us have full and equal rights. BTW, I’m not sure I agree with you that gays benefited from the civil rights movement, but that is not the issue I’m feeling so passionate about right now, even though I am gay. I want more women in charge and I will not be deterred by ANY opposing argument. I believe it is the ONLY way we will start to be heard.

According to this, ERA is dead

ERA passed Congress on March 22, 1972 and set a time limit of seven years. When 38 states would not ratify ERA by that deadline, Congress passed a new resolution extending the deadline to June 30, 1982. During the extension, no states ratified and some rescinded.

Section 1. Equality of rights under the law shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of sex.
Section 2. The Congress shall have the power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article.

Section 3. This amendment shall take effect two years after the date of ratification.

Extension of ratification deadline

In 1978—as the 1979 deadline approached—the 95th Congress adopted House Joint Resolution No. 638 (H. J. Res. 638), by Representative Elizabeth Holtzman of New York, which purported to extend the ERA’s ratification deadline to June 30, 1982.[14] H. J. Res. 638 received less than two-thirds of the vote in both the House of Representatives and the Senate; for that reason, it was deemed necessary by ERA supporters that H. J. Res. 638 be transmitted to then President Jimmy Carter for signature as a safety precaution. Carter signed the joint resolution, though he questioned on procedural grounds the propriety of his doing so.

No additional states ratified the ERA during that extra period of slightly more than three years. On June 18, 1980, a resolution in the Illinois House of Representatives resulted in a vote of 102-71 in favor, but Illinois required a 3/5 majority on constitutional amendments and so the measure failed by five votes. In fact, the only occurrence favorable to the ERA between the original deadline of March 22, 1979 and the revised June 30, 1982, expiration date was—as noted earlier—its approval by the Florida House of Representatives on June 21, 1982. In the final week before the deadline, that ratifying resolution was defeated in the Florida Senate by a vote of 16 yeas and 22 nays. Even if Florida had ratified the ERA, the amendment would still have been two states short of the required 38 (or seven states short, if the rescissions are valid).

On December 23, 1981, a United States District Court ruled that the ERA’s deadline extension was unconstitutional and, further, that a state legislature may indeed rescind a prior ratification of a proposed amendment to the Federal Constitution.The case was appealed to the Supreme Court of the United States. The United States Solicitor General claimed that the required number of states (38) had not ratified the amendment even if the deadline extension and the rescissions were valid, and that “the Amendment has failed of adoption no matter what the resolution of the legal issues presented here.”[ The Supreme Court agreed and ordered the case dismissed as moot on October 4, 1982,[ thereby recognizing that the 1972 ERA had failed to win ratification, but did not issue a ruling on the merits of the either the deadline extension issue or the rescission issue in this case.

The National Organization for Women appealed the district court’s holding in Idaho v. Freeman. In NOW v. Idaho, 459 U.S. 809 (1982), the U.S. Supreme Court declared the entire matter moot on the grounds that the 1972 ERA was dead with or without either the rescissions or the purported deadline extension

http://www.answers.com/topic/equal-rights-amendment

The Twenty-seventh Amendment (Amendment XXVII) prohibits any law that increases or decreases the salary of members of the Congress from taking effect until the beginning of the next set of terms of office for Representatives. It is the most recent amendment to the United States Constitution, having been ratified in 1992, more than 202 years after its initial submission in 1789.

The 27th Amendment did not have a ratification time limit on it. The ERA did.

AG Martha Coakley may be interested in Ted Kennedy’s senate seat.
Go Martha!

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What a wonderful thing it will be to get Martha elected, I will give time and money for a new WOMAN in place of old man Kennedy. He has lost his luster and is way left with very poor judgement of late, may be his illness, I will give him the benefit of Doubt. Bugger off Eddie!

Ithink women should be elected in representative numbers. Sadly, for me, it does matter who is elected.

LJSN, no civil rights movement, no ant Vietnam war, no women’s movement, no Stonewall. That large numbers of AAs who are mostly evangelical didn’t vote for gay marriage doesn’t obviate the change in climate frm then nor the creation of the framework for change.

How long do you think it took to get an anti lynching law through congress? How many women in the south supported that?

Pumabear,

I respect that and your opinion… but as long as women continue to be political purists, in their expectations of a candidate, is how long we will continue to fail to have representative government… JMHO

NormaPAPuma
I had to rummage too… will remedy that this evening…
meanwhile… here are the note and postcards… left hand column.
http://pumapac.org/prowlstalk.html

Pumabear,

Sorry, the political purist comment was a general statement… I didn’t nix Sotomayor… some did…

IMHO we need to make sure that all political parties understand “No woman on the ticket, no vote from the womens bloc”

I really think it’s that simple… we don’t support political parties because they don’t demonstrate representative government for women.

Thanks, Dances. The best way to use is by printing on stiff paper and cutting out?

Goofs,
You are right. I can get behind that.

(((((PUMAbear)))))

Me too…

norma,
just checked… the postcard is 2-up…
let me see if there’s another version with more per page. brb

OK, I printed out the larger one, figured I’d have to trim…

with all due respect to those whose opinion differs -

I keep hearing that we (the politically dispossessed) need to get past identity politics, get over being purists, broaden the agenda, etc.

To me, this sounds like nothing more than adjusting one’s expectations to produce a “platform” that can gain the most support from as many women as possible – regardless of how well it actually represents the real day-to-day agenda of women.
In plain language, it sounds like a great big helping of Wait Your Turn.

It reminds me of an email conversation I had last May with Donna Brazile. I was urging that votes cast for HRC be counted for HRC. The reply from Donna Brazile? “Thanks for sharing your views. I want to win. We will see how best to get there.”

I think it all boils down to one’s definition of “winning”. For me, winning means that feminist and humanist goals get turned into reality. Period. It is counter-intuitive that I should abandon my basic values and throw my support to any group that asserts common cause with my politically dispossessed status, then proposes a path whereby I we can “win”.

If this were written as a sales contract, would I sign it? Nope.

murphy, omg. Cherry pie is my verrrrrrry favorite! Yes, I’ll have a piece with the ice cream too! Thanks!! I’ll put on a pot of coffee too.

Dances,
I don’t know-they look the same size, which is fine. I don’t want you to go to anymore trouble. I appreciate the work. I printed them out on cream/beige colored resume paper and they look beautiful. I’ll check with the post office tomorrow to see if they’re ok to mail.

Norma…
the ones you printed are the standard (lower postage) size.
I agree… they are beautiful. Jojo is quite the artist!

Love the notecard, but I wish we had an envelope for the size.
Anyway, thanks again. I’ll make use of these for sure, starting with guilting the women who are not co-sponsoring!

Michelle Bachman (R) is on tv right now-she’s very conservative but maybe a nice note mentioning how I support SP might soften her up. I’m going to enjoy these postcards!
Thanks, and thanks to JoJo. Don’t know her…

norma…
BillieJo’s 8×10 flyer is also posted…
dispels myths surrounding the ERA

Hey, what ever happened to Donna Brazile? Is she slinking around DC somewhere in a burqa?

Wow! Hannity has clips and an interview about the “Stoning of Soraya M” on now…

PumaBear, Goofsmom
Regarding Sotomayor, I admit I nixed her, but not on one decision. She’s just not my type: She enjoys her minority status too much while she wants (or wanted) Puerto Rico’s independence, which is favored by about 3% of PR residents. She lobbys for the loss of their citizenship while thoroughly benefiting from hers. Politics of division on steroids.

normapapuma,

Re: Sotomayor, she won’t be deciding on PR as a Supreme Court judge, so I can’t base not supporting her on that. As far as the minority status, I can’t see how it will cause a problem… maybe I’m a little slow on this one, but there are 8 other justices and I can’t see how she alone can sway a vote to the detrement of all…. JMO though…

Locked, WOW!!! That is awesome!

(((((Locked-N-Loaded)))))

#251 goofsmom
But her vote will make a big difference when it’s 4 to 5…She may not be a disaster, but I think the cavalier fashion of dismissing those men who worked to pass their promotion tests do not show clear judgement to uphold everyone’s civil rights, but a bias which is dangerous. I would rather she not be confirmed, though like Obama, she’ll get it, mostly because it’s politically correct. That’s my opinion, and it’s ok to disagree.

Hi goofsmom,

Yes, you sure can. Glad you like it.

I don’t think we’ll be able to get every woman to agree on every issue. So we will be divided on issues, but forever UNITED against misogyny.

Locked-N-Loaded….. I love it!!! The part I like most is…. “I am woman who’s fully alive..Force me in a room and who will survive…You had better duck, you had better dive… I’m locked and loaded with my 45″… I have a Barretta 9mm/laser with a 13 round magazine… And, she is my best friend! I just hope I never have to use it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! But, if I do… It will be ONLY as a matter of life and death… And, I do know how to use it. I am trained to use it and I practice at the range often… So, IMO that is the only way for one to have/own a gun… Responible gun ownership is a MUST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

How much money did they make in Los Angeles relative to the MJ concert all told? The city itself may not have gotten the money directly, but it isn’t the city that’s issuing IOU’s. Hotels, restaurants, taxis, etc., and all the other increased revenues generated by MJ’s funeral have to be factored in, too.

Dances-
problems with my mail server, took the color off the ERA flyer but still have problem getting the second black page to delete before I send it.
Will try one more time when yahoo is back and send as a Word file, you can try to delete the last page if you are better at formatting problems than I am.

More in Sarah Palin and why her leaving her governorship is really a statement of running for POTUS. Here is a couple excerpts from it:
“Sarah Palin’s resignation shows she understands what governors like Bobby Jindal don’t, says The Daily Beast’s Joe Mathews—our politics have changed, and you have to quit to win the next race.”
“As strange as her announcement sounded, Palin’s view of the electoral world is clear-eyed. These days, politics trumps governing all the time.”

Link: http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2009-07-07/palins-brilliant-2012-play/?cid=hp:mainpromo3

Don’t everyone freak about about the ERA, I have heard it is still a go with 3 states because I have been dialed into this for months now and have done some research.
Part of the reason it has not passed is because of all the misinformation given by those that do not want it to pass, not you PUMAbear, the religious groups and men don’t want us to be equal.
Please go to the website I linked before to learn more.

oops

Dances-
problems with my mail server, took the color off the ERA flyer but still have problem getting the second blank page to delete before I send it.

#268 Goofsmom,
Thanks. I stole it from a a teeshirt I have: PA Coalition Against Rape and Sexual Assaul: Forever United, Safe and Strong

I love that saying.
Good night, all.

Well I just checked the airline and I see my grandson and his family landed safely in Cleveland and then on to Fort Wayne Indiana. Took them to Logan Express this afternoon so they could get to the airport and off to a family wedding.
Grandson loaded with GPS so he can side trip to Muncie and see the Garfield Museum there…among other sites he checked out.
Well off to bed I can sleep now knowing they have arrived safely.

Caspar!

I never detect your typos. You’re as sure handed as Wyatt Earp.

Phew! Hey PUMAbear great to hear from you….. You are so sweet… It is just that the laptop keys are soooooooo close…. And, when typing fast and not reading what you have typed… (which I do) until, after you post! UGH! a lesson to be learned…. Looking forward to the 18th…. been thinking alot about stuff… and, have come up with some ideas…. I hope you two like them…. ((((((PB)))))) ((((((MK))))))

#274 PumaBear
She considers herself Puertorican. I was born in PR and live in PA. My family lives in PR, though. I don’t remember if she was born in PR or not, That doesn’t matter because it’s like if you were born in NY or NJ, you’re still a U.S. citizen. The key is residence-people living in the territory of Puerto Rico are denied the right to vote for President, voting representation in Congress and so on, based on residency. Complicated and unconstitutional, but my point is-she lives Stateside where she has all her citizenship rights, but claims her people don’t want them? Plus milks the minority issue, plus goes out of her way to hurt people of the “majority”? Don’t like the contradictions/inconsistencies. I’m not lobbying against her, but if Puertoricans want to achieve Statehood, milking the system is not helpful to getting accepted into the Union. Looks bad. I find it embarrassing. Not cool.

PUMAbear…. :blushing: :blushing:

Oh, crap… went to my lapton in between feeding the dogs and cats…. and looked what happend….. here goes again for PUMAbear….

Headclunker #9
Shouls he be impeached or just disqualified
I say IMPEACH him before he trys to pull a Zelaya on us.

In reaction to my post # 104 above . . .
Murphy, Dances Normapapuma, Big Cat Lover, Dragonfly, Shadowfax, Honora, anyone else out there, still here, and interested?

Is a group prowl (Murphy?) plausible to the 19 women who co-sponsored the golf bill but NOT the Alice Paul bill? If I get the go-ahead, I’ll work on fax #’s for the 19 women. It will take me a while, but I’ll work on it tonight. The prowl COULD start something like the following:

Rep._____________
It has recently been brought to my attention that you co-sponsored
H.R. 1243, which would provide for the award of a gold medal on behalf of Congress to Arnold Palmer in recognition of his service to the Nation in promoting excellence and good sportsmanship in golf. Records indicate, however, that you are one of 39 women in the House of Representatives who have not yet signed on to co-sponsor H.R. 406, which would award a Congressional Gold Medal in recognition of Alice Paul’s role in the women’s suffrage movement and in advancing rights for women. Alice Paul dedicated her life to securing suffrage and equal rights for all women, and was instrumental in the passage of the 19th Amendment to the United States Constitution. It is because of her, and others who fought with her, that you are able to vote as well as be a representative in your state! As cited in the Congressional findings, (Sec. 2, #12) Few people have played a greater role in shaping the history of the United States than Alice Paul.
I implore you to join your “sisters” in the house who have already supported this important bill, and make it a unanimous bipartisan representation of ALL WOMEN!

Please contact Jenny.Sarabia@mail.house.gov today to co-sponsor H.R. 406!

XXXXXX
Member of PUMA p.a.c.

Dances . . calling attention by emails and not a “Pig” award?

Caspar! I am blushing because I am blushing and my ice cream cone is melting.

Dances,

Thanks for the Riverdaughter link… good article on Bader-Ginsberg and feminism…

Rancho,

Reporting for duty and ready to prowl!!!!!

(((PUMAbear)))!
Can you say something shorter, meaner,and in bold type?
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shorter. . .don’t know WHAT to cut. Any suggestions?
meaner . . . don’t know HOW (Occupational disadvantage!)
Catch more flies with honey, rather than vinegar?

Bold I CAN do!

Hey (((Casper, Goofs, PUMAbear))) Group So. Cal hug!
I’d like/need the coordination/support/o.k. from Murphy.

Thanks you ALL! I’ll start working on the fax #’s, and hopefully hear from Murphy. She might know better how to cut it down, if she wants to go with it. On second thought, Dances, emails won’t work for reps. If you aren’t their constituents, it bounces back! Learned that with my NUMEROUS emails to Pelosi.

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/12737

Nearly Six Months In, Obama Still “Achievement” Free

By John Lillpop Wednesday, July 8, 2009
As tough as it is to admit it, Hillary Rodham Clinton got one right when she tried to warn America that Barack Obama was an inexperienced, naive poser without any achievement to his credit.

As reported by the LA Times, in part, during the heat of the 2008 campaign:

“I think that I have a lifetime of experience that I will bring to the White House. Sen. John McCain has a lifetime of experience that he’d bring to the White House. And Sen. Obama has a speech he gave in 2002.”

The unwashed masses fell in love with this bright and silver-tongued man of color who, if elected, would make your car and mortgage payments for you, provide free health care for everyone, and end partisan squabbling.

He would deal with Iran, North Korea, Al-Qaeda and other avowed enemies of America by simply talking nice to them.

He would solve the energy crisis by reminding everyone to check the air pressure in his or her tires.

He would declare all of America a “nuclear-free” zone which would immediately end the threat of nuclear war and eliminate the need for all of those silly missile shields that Republicans kept pushing to keep their pals in the defense industry rich and happy.

Weakest, least able, and least pro-American presidency in our history

Nearly six months into the weakest, least able, and least pro-American presidency in our history, Barack Hussein Obama remains a man without achievement.

The only CHANGE he has managed is to the US dollar which, after months of Obamanomics, has been downgraded to change!

Thank goodness, the people are starting to wake up, as in Ohio where Obama’s approval rating has slipped to 49 percent.

A counter-revolution is in the air.

The people have pretty much had it, and will soon demand CHANGE in the Oval Office and in the halls of Congress presently clogged with lefty nut balls like Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid.

Hang on patriots! This too will pass.

Rancho, I was only funnin’ ya. I know how dedicated you are to Alice Paul and because of you I am too. Your note is great. I can’t criticize anyone who has worked so diligently.

But could it be shorter, meaner, and in bold type?

I think you have to be nice to the honorable members of congress or they’ll tear up your letter.

I’d like to help, if I can. Can we work out something when you get back?

((((((RemNov)))))

Get better…

Billijo #271

Thanks, I didn’t know you were so deeply involved in ERA group. Maybe I should have, but I didn’t. I’ll check out your site.

Rancho, if you need help with addresses MK has a whole spread sheet. Maybe we should blitz some corporations or foundations, maybe some lesbian groups. Couldn’t hurt. Maybe some corp or foundation could sponsor us, like the Tour de France.

Rancho, I gotta go to bed. W**k tomorrow. Love to pumas. Night, night but I will still be thinking.

mad – made!

Night Pumabear to you and MK, too!

Rancho

don’t want you to do unnecessary work – if I am the only one who would like the addresses – don’t bother – letters are easier for me than faxes

Thanks again Rancho, and “night Pumas..

ALICE PAUL Gold Medal

Alice Paul Gold Medal Co-sponsors
http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h406/show

Co-sponsors List (as of 3/21/09)
http://pumapac.org/docs/Alice%20Paul%20Medal%20COSPONSORS.doc

Contact Congress
Reps and Senators by State:
http://www.visi.com/juan/congress/

Ballot Initiative Strategy Center
http://www.ballot.org/pages/initiative_process

July 9, 2009
Sister: Journalist Says She Broke North Korean Law
By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Filed at 2:51 a.m. ET

SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) — The sister of an American journalist jailed in North Korea says the woman acknowledged breaking North Korean law during a recent phone call.

Lisa Ling told KCRA-TV in Sacramento she spoke to her sister, Laura Ling, Tuesday around 10:30 p.m.

Lisa Ling said Laura told her she and the other American journalist being held, Euna Lee, violated North Korean law and need the U.S. government’s help in obtaining amnesty.

Laura Ling and Lee were working for San Francisco-based Current TV, which former U.S. Vice President Al Gore helped found, when they were detained. They were sentenced last month to 12 years of hard labor for illegal entry and ”hostile acts.”

Laura Ling said her sister, who suffers from an ulcer, said she regularly sees physicians and is OK.

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2009/07/09/us/AP-CA-NKorea-Journalists-Held.html?pagewanted=print

Dances
Thanks for the info on Laura Ling and Euna Lee. It seem the world has forgotten about these two women. Has Al Gore had anything to say about them?

Juliette
Sorry just logged on and asked before I read up.

gojoyknocks . . .
FYI Chellie Pingree DID NOT vote to support H.R. 1243-Arnold Palmer golf bill, but she IS one of the 39 women in the House who have still NOT signed on to co-sponsor HR 406

Thanks Rancho….I was about to leave for work when I decided to double check on that. Saved myself some embarrassment

Yes, gojoy! Glad you checked!
For anyone interested, I have just finished compiling the addresses and phone numbers of the 19 Women Reps. who supported the Arnold Palmer Bill but not the Alice Palmer bill. (See my post #115 with the * next to the names.) There are 39 women who have not co-sponsored HR 406 but my FURY is FIRST with the 19 of these 39 who co-sponsored the Arnold Palmer golf bill HR 1243 but not HR 406.

The information I have compiled is long, so I am sending it to Murphy and Dances (Action Center) for their consideration.

As Dances said . . (DancesWithPumas 07.08.09 at 5:13 pm)

“I guess I’d rather prowl the women who do not support us than post sow of the day no sister of mine pink whatever posts and accompanying graphics.”
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If a prowl is done, it wouldn’t really be about working to help get a medal for Alice Paul. (SHE’S DEAD and will never see it!) It’s more about holding CLUELESS women accountable, about educating OUR REPRESENTATIVES who are NOT representing us. THEY MUST BE CALLED OUT! These 19 women are only half of the 39 who have not co-sponsored HR 406, but these 19 have chosen to support a golf bill! (No offense meant to golfers or Arnold Palmer fans, but these women wouldn’t even have their jobs if it wasn’t for Alice Paul.)

IT HAS TO BE IGNORANCE!

Rancho 333

Thank you so much for doing all of that work. I look forward to participating in the letter campaign!

The Natives are getting restless

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-july-2-2009/that-s-great-now-fix-the-economy

At the time that Roe came before the court, there had been a history of involuntary sterilizations of women whome their doctors deemed “unfit to reproduce,” including women with developmental disabilities, and yes, poor and minority women. Justice Ginsberg’s concern turned out to be unwarranted, but it wasn’t unfounded.

#291 Rancho
I think the letter is perfect! The irony shines through and the fact that we feel slighted in a huge way. All necessary info is given.
I’ll be leaving for PR tomorrow and won’t have access to the internet at my mom’s, but I’ll do my best to keep up with this very important work. I think I can use an Internet cafe at Borders down there. And when I come back-I’ll be really rested-so watch out Washington!

Thanks waterpanther. I didn’t know that. I’m on my way out the door to try to make a nickel (after taxes) today. Will try to check the board during breaks if I can. If I can’t, I’ll check after I get home.

Michelina 342

thanks for the info on the women pilots in WWII. My daughter is really interested in Amelia Earhart right now and will be very interested in this.

BO Approval Index MINUS 8 !!!
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suck a lemon, Obama!

348&349

Yeeeah! OMG, maybe we can get out from under soon!

Yes indeedee! Right now I’m going to the post office with a trial postcard to my target-Rep. Michele Bachmann…bbl.

http://www.gotopuertorico.com/

Golf Lovers=”Athletic Supporters”

getting punchy . . gotta go. BBL

#355
Yeah I know, but she’s the 2nd most hated woman after SP. Not sure, but I think she’s influential with Repubs-or wants to be.
Anywho, just reaching out. Testing…
The others will get letters!

I disagree with Palin on:
the war in Iraq which we entered on false premises
her support of George W.
her desire to continuously expand the wars
drill baby drill
if she shot wolves from a helicopter, fuck her
violating the sanctity of the alaska wilderness
supporting torture (I think she differed with McCain)
supporting detention at Guantanamo

Her husband has a well paying union job although apparently her Party doesn’t support unions
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Let’s answer these apparent stands of SP:

She and the majority of our Gov, went to war based on the
FALSE information of George W. BUSH

Yes, she’s a conservative Republican, SHE Supports her PARTY,
not necessarily GEORGE BUSH, definitely McCain

She supports SOUND, responsible Military and Protection for the Country she loves, USA

Yes, her husband works his ASS OFF, and has a UNION, to
support a FAMILY of 5——not a crime don’t make it ONE.

I believe she was SHOOTING DEER, not WOLVES, that’s how they
eat in ALASKA, Mostly HUNTING: The wolves are a CROCK,
and if it is true, it was to PROTECT something else, it
was NOT SPORT:

I will send this upthread:—your views are distorted about
SARAH PALIN, just what your hearing, no REAL RESEARCH.