Run, Sarah, Run

Also unprecedented is that I’m first. Check in the mail.

Ironically, some of the same women who subscribe(d)to the 33% Solution, and campaigned for the minority candidate running for Pres of NOW, ostensibly to ensure wider representation of women of color, are saying they wouldn’t vote for a woman just because she’s a woman.

In support of Palin running, if you haven’t already done so, you may wish to contribute to her PAC, or at least get on the emailing listing for it:
http://www.sarahpac.com/

TeamSarah is apparently getting a lot of new members suddenly according to an email I got from them:
http://www.teamsarah.org/page/meet-the-team-sarah-governance

The headlines listed on Google News are more civilized than they were yesterday, and even early this morning. Think the BOIZ are on to something?

I heard that donations to Sarah were up 40 percent by last night.
Can it be women are getting their shit together?
God I so hope so. It will be exciting to watch and be a part of.
I am so going to have a T shirt made
That says Proud to be a Cunt too. LOL

HopePuma 07.04.09 at 2:01 pm
Dances are you saying that NOW women are coming right out and saying they won’t support Palin just because she’s a woman? I must have misunderstood you.
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No. Sorry I wasn’t clear. I was citing some bloggers and commenters in the blogosphere, not necessarily NOW members.

Dances,

Maya is living with her aunt and is very happy.The police went to house and family said it was an argument between sister and brother, nothing more. There were no witnesses and Maya refused to press charges fearing for her life if she did. I can not blame her.
She will start school in Sept. She wants to be a doctor and she is still in love with boyfriend. She is very very happy with a life free of Islamic rules.

FLBarbara 07.04.09 at 2:09 pm [edit]

Dances,

Maya is living with her aunt and is very happy.The police went to house and family said it was an argument between sister and brother, nothing more. There were no witnesses and Maya refused to press charges fearing for her life if she did. I can not blame her.
She will start school in Sept. She wants to be a doctor and she is still in love with boyfriend. She is very very happy with a life free of Islamic rules.
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Good to hear!
Thanks to you, yet another woman is freed from barbarians.
You have my utmost admiration.

Personally, I am not a “single issue” voter. I don’t vote based on whether they are pro-life or pro-choice, nor do I vote based on whether they are pro gay marriage or not.
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As a woman, as a dyke, my full and equal rights as a citizen determine who I vote for… I don’t share in the same rights as other citizens, yet my taxes are supporting them. All the rest of the “issues” are secondary backburner bullshit as far as I’m concerned.

P.S. I happen to be both pro-choice and pro-gay marriage. I am simply pro equality of rights under the law for all citizens, and always have been. But, I do not define myself or my voting choices by any single issue. I define myself as a hard-working, intelligent, independent American woman, first and foremost.

I agree, HopePuma! The ’single issue’ voters, IMO, were largely to blame for the Fraud getting elected!
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The primaries “fix” and fraud was what cleared the way for osackocrap to the general election. He lost to HRC, remember??

Dances,

No praises for me.I was in one of those blessed places because it was as it was suppose to be.

You need to know that while in the ER with Maya she read the blog where Murphy and those of you there that night offered your support. She was amazed that there are women who care about women like her.Her choice to walk away from her family was made knowing women are there. She has an Aunt who is a roll model also then there is Mayas own will and determination. She amazes me with her courage. I am not sure if I could do the same.

She has promised me she will pay your support forward.

So your concern for a unknown girl facing untold horrors will live on in a life well lived.

And I thank each and everyone of you.
Blessings

HopePuma
I’m not arguing against your right to vote for the candidates of your choice. You shared your reasons and I expressed mine.
Women are wearing figurative burqas in this country, and all over the planet. My vote goes to the candidate that most closely represents a change in status for women, locally and globally. Anything short of that, takes its place on the backburner. All other issues become frontburner issues because women aren’t valued in Testicle World.

Thanks Murphy for spelling it out – I also want a woman as President before I die. We earned it and we deserve it. I don’t expect that woman to meet some unrealistic standard of perfection in my eyes or anyone else’s eyes. I want to repeat what I said earlier in a comment…stop comparing Palin to HRC, as though that is the only standard for supporting a women. They are different people. No one asks a male candidate to be the same as whichever male person is their hero or ideal. With luck, we’ll have more than one female candidate for each office and we can pick and choose who we support. Wouldn’t that be great.

Before I sign on to any candidate, I’d like to know about their FULL platform, from choice, environment,foreign policy,economic policy, etc. It’s clear that what a candidate says about him or herself is not to be trusted (see Obama) and tha’t why REAL democrats and AAs will be broken hearted when they finally wake up to the true Obama agenda.

Palin’s economic policies are a puzzle to me because as governor of Alaska, with its vast oil wealth, she was able to hold down taxes and with a minuscule, mostly homogeneous population she did not face many of the demographic problems of politicians in “old” industrial states like Mass. or one with a young, mixed race and mixed economy. How would she function as Gov of CA, for instance.

Hillary is still my girl. I believe she was MORE of a liberal than she was able to express, more than Bill much as Eleanor Roosevelt was more of a progressive than Franklin.

I am not a single issue voter. I personally don’t care about her religion or her positions on birth control, abstinence, etc. What would be worrisome to me is a political dependency on such single issue voters, who would corral her into otherwise repugnant positions.

Just as an aside, I think it’s a mistake to categorize the AA vote for Obama as a monolithic “race” vote that can be emulated by women in support of a female candidate. AA’s were skeptical of Obama in the beginning and did not embrace him as they did Jesse Jackson in 1988. AAs don’t always respond to race “tokenism”, refusing to vote for black republicans offered up to siphon the vote, such as Alan Keyes. AA’s have voted 90% or better for DEMOCRATS since Roosevelt. Before that, they voted for Republicans. Until the Nixon era AAs might have voted for a Republican like Eisenhower rather than a Dixicrat. So the issue is complicated. But Obama has no real interest in the plight of AAs, he is portraying himself as a social conservative, not a big government liberal.

I will wait and see if Palin parlays her political capital into winning races for conservatives or anyone else espousing values inimical to mine. Will she support progressive women in liberal states or even red states? I somehow doubt it. The Schlafly critters also support women for congress and state office but these women are invariably supporters of anti-feminist men. So go figure.
I would be aghast to see her pumping up Gingrich or Tancredo, for instance, the same misogynistic, rw men who trashed her and especially Hillary, daily, for 16 years. The Rovians practically invented the “fatfuck”, destroying Ferraro and Dukakis with it back in the 80′s. I have NO sympathy for them.

Palin will need buckets of cash to run for anything. Buckets of cash come from pacs and lobbyists, not individual women, who, sadly, came up short donating to Hillary while Obama was able to blow Hillary away with wealthy, vested interested donations.

So I’m withholding my Palin adulation until I know more.

I’d like to see Palin completely IGNORE the issue of choice.

Hell, The New Agenda does!

If she avoided crazy Operation Rescue pro-life groups like Concerned Women for America I’d be psyched.

To be totally honest, though, with all the various birth control measures out today I’m not sure why abortion is even an issue anymore. If they had had the large variety of birth control measures back in the day of my grandmum I’m sure she never would have needed those abortions that she had.

I really like Huckabee’s response (CQ Politics interview) to Palin’s resignation.
http://www.cqpolitics.com/wmspage.cfm?docID=news-000003158484

“VARNEY: Do you think, though, that — I am going to go back to David Letterman`s comment. I`m not going to repeat his comment. It was a disgrace. But, nonetheless, he said it. Everybody heard about it. It was a direct insult to Sarah Palin personally and to her family.

Did that ratchet up the — the — the negative level of politics to a degree? Do you think that had something to do with her leaving?

HUCKABEE: Whether it contributed to her departure, I don`t know.

But I will say that the only thing more despicable than the absolutely indefensible comments that he made was the fact that it took him a week to find his apologetic voice to halfheartedly say that he was sorry. That`s what was absurd.

And the lack of groups, women`s groups and others, who came to her defense. Finally, the National Organization for Women reluctantly and — and sort of eventually came around. But, other than that, most — most of the — you call them the elite — and I think that`s probably an apt term – - simply just looked the other way, as if someone had been hit by a car, and they just turned away and said, you know, it didn`t hit me, so I am not worried by it.

And what a horrible statement that is…

VARNEY: Yes.

HUCKABEE: … about the state of our culture.”

Reality check from dear leader:

…President Obama, in his weekly address, asks Americans to remember the sacrifices and achievements of the men who voted for independence 233 years ago.
“We are called to remember how unlikely it was that our American experiment would succeed at all; that a small band of patriots would declare independence from a powerful empire; and that they would form, in the new world, what the old world had never known – a government of, by and for the people,” he said.

… Mr. Obama called on Americans to recall those patriots’ spirit and support his plans to reform the U.S. education, health care and energy policies….” We are not a people wo fear the future,” he said. “We are a people who make it. And on this July 4th, we need to summon that spirit once more. We need to summon the same spirit that inhabited Independence Hall 233 Years ago today [ to pass my domestic agenda ]….

http://www.voanews.com/english/2009-07-04-voa24.cfm

Pass my stuff because Ben Franklin et al, were not afraid of the future.
The epitome of obfuscation….. No wonder Murphy says “Jackass” so often.

murphy-thanks for taking the time to clarify what you meant. I appreciate it.

Murphy, awesome post. I am right there with you!

Report: Ahmadinejad says he wants public talks with Obama

TEHRAN, Iran (CNN) — Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said he wants to engage President Obama in “negotiations” before international media, a semi-official Iranian news outlet reported on Saturday.
Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad’s re-election last month sparked global protests and unrest in Iran.

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad’s re-election last month sparked global protests and unrest in Iran.

Speaking at a meeting of medical school deans, Ahmadinejad said Iran “will soon pursue a new round of diplomatic activity” amid a new position of strength for the Iranian government, the Iranian Student News Agency quotes him as saying.

“I will go to the United Nations and will invite Obama to negotiations,” Ahmadinejad said, adding that such talks would be “in front of the international media, not a sit-down behind closed doors in order to talk about matters.”

the rest:
http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/meast/07/04/iran.ahmadinejad.obama/index.html

Ahmadinejad is trying to dictate the terms of the talks!

He’d like to humiliate Obama in front of the world and this could be his
chance to do so.

Maybe Angela Merkel can once again give Obama a little pep talk since the asshole doesn’t listen to Hillary.

I’ll support Palin to be rid of headlines like this:

MEETING WITH POPE WILL BE `MORE THAN A CHAT` OBAMA SAYS

http://www.lifeinitaly.com/node/6524

DWP 20

LOL! You said it, sister. Taxation without representation rings a bell . . . I know some would say I’m twisting the concept, but these elected losers expect people who “should be glad they are allowed to exist” to fund their bullshit projects???? Hmmmmmmmm, I’m reminded of that asshole George from England.

From Murphy at 34

“Which is why reproductive choice in the age of safe and reliable birth contril, RU-486, and safe first trimester abortions should be 100% OFF LIMITS TO THE STATE. The State has absolutely ZERO compelling interest in when, where, why, and how women choose to reproduce, or not. Before the Civil War abortion was not only legal but widely available. At the time of the writing of the Declaration of Independence and Constitution, abortion was legal. It was an area of life considered private for women and out of bounds of the State. AN appalling number of deaths and deformities in hospitals as a result of botched abortions in the post civil war period galvanized public opposition to the practice. When medical care became streamlined and centralized in public hospitals, the patriarchal State suddenly became involved in childbirth for the first time in human history (The Red Tent was certainly sexist, but it was also a place where WOMEN ruled.). Right on time for the larger Victorian Movement.”

This fascinates me as it was also around the same time that women doctors/midwives/healers were being shoved out of the profession in favor of dumbass guys who thought they knew about ob/gyn issues because they attended a medical school. See Mary Daly in Gyn/Ecology. Horrifying!!!

What a double whammy – women lose a livelihood and their would-be patients lose their privacy.

Where Sarah needs to change on abortion is to recognize, as Murphy points out, that the states have no compelling interest during the first trimester and need to stay out of it. Sarah is a states’ rights politician, and that shift will be awkward but can be done based on privacy and upholding the law, if she is willing to make the shift.

better a drunk prez with a dick than a prez with lady parts?

This fascinates me as it was also around the same time that women doctors/midwives/healers were being shoved out of the profession in favor of dumbass guys who thought they knew about ob/gyn issues because they attended a medical school. See Mary Daly in Gyn/Ecology. Horrifying!!!
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Exactly. They outlawed midwifery saying only doctors could deliver babies, then they wouldn’t allow women to enter medical school.

Here’s how I feel about voting.
- I will vote Hillary into any office she runs for and she is my number one gal. I am not a far left liberal, not nearly as much as I thought although I am a tree hugger, environmentalist and most everything else except I am more of a centralist when it comes to most everything except Universal Health Care.

- If Hillary isn’t running for Pres and Sarah is, and if Sarah dumps the right winged side of the Repub. party and goes either centralist or liberal, she gets my vote hands down.

I do like Sarah and would admire her even more without the religious ties.
She can keep her, “Say it ain’t so Joe”…way of talking, I like it.

My perfect dream is for Hillary to run for Pres and put Sarah in as her VP. Now that would be a kickass team in my book.

Happy Independence Day PUMAs!

Thanks Dragonfly.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/07/04/fourth-of-july-tea-party-demostrations-come-to-washington/

if CNN says 2000 people showed up it was probably 2x that..

I have a pomegranate tree in my yard. Also peach, lemon, lime, fig, and grape vines. My brother and I will do berries next. We also have a plan for a few chickens. And greens.

hey, dragon-happy fourth.
sounds like quite the garden!
you must live in a warm state.

{{{HP!!}}}

did they snarf your famous potato salad?

waiting for Keith Lockhart to conduct the pops with his hair

5 more minutes..

Love the post!!!

Now for the News..Sarah is Not quiting..She is going to fight for this country.
She has asked us to stand with her per facebook posted on Team Sarah..
AP..reporting her lawyers are already on Huff..and others about spreading lies…she is going to fight them hard…now!

I think she is going to stand up and take them all own to try to save this country..Dem’s. and Rep’s…and she will start by taking on “That One” first.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090704/ap_on_re_us/us_palin_resigning

Dances,

You have mail…. Love to Mama…

****************Happy 4th of July Pumas*****************

Posted in CNN at: http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/

CNN) – In an Independence Day message to supporters, Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin said she was leaving office for a “higher calling” and blasted the “main stream media” for failing to understand her decision.

“How sad that Washington and the media will never understand; it’s about country,” she said in a message posted on her Facebook page. “And though it’s honorable for countless others to leave their positions for a higher calling and without finishing a term, of course we know by now, for some reason a different standard applies for the decisions I make. But every American understands what it takes to make a decision because it’s right for all, including your family.”

Palin said her administration had “accomplished more during this one term than most governors do in two.”
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Catch that? “it’s about country”. and a “higher calling”. HmmmMMMmmmm….

BillieJo
Thanks for link.
Did you read the comments? Check out number 6 or 7 down.
It’s like what the fish said when it swam into a wall: DAM!!

Hey, DWP… Just sitting here with my 5 dogs who are freaking out over the neighborhood fireworks…. UGH!!!!! They really hate this time of the year…. The City of Riverside did a nice Fireworks display at Mt. Rubidoux… lasted about 30 minutes… How about SD? any fireworks display? Hope you are doing great…

LOL!!!!
Check out Twisty’s video:
“Well Pump Repair With Chuck”
http://tinyurl.com/lmqtza

Dances
Did you read the comments? Check out number 6 or 7 down.
It’s like what the fish said when it swam into a wall: DAM!!
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No kidding…everyone is touched by the great gesture, song, memories and along comes a guppy that pisses all over the parade.

Oooo my heart still breaks over Michael. What a fu@king shame!

Thank you for this post Murphy , you and Violet Socks have the most astute analysis thus far………. and it starts with simply taking Sarah at her word . Thank you for caring .

The way things stand now, ANY candidate who stands a chance of beating Obama in 2012 is getting my vote. The man is destroying this country and I’m afraid of what this country will look like in four years, much less eight.

As far as Sarah is concerned, she gets more than just my vote. I would donate time and $$$ to get her into the Oval Office. No, I don’t agree with her on every issue, but I don’t agree with any politician on every issue. Sarah will put America first, and that’s what matters most to me at this time.

Of course, Hillary is still my #1 choice for 2012. We’re more on the same page in terms of the issues, and overall she has more experience than Sarah. This country is totally screwed up right now and Hillary is the one who is best equipped to fix what’s broken. But I don’t know if that door will open up for her in 2012 unless Obama pulls a Johnson (does that sound obscene or what?) or is forced to resign like Nixon.

DWP… Yes you are 1000000000000% Right!! I always think of the Animal life that is being scared by the Fireworks and how they do not understand no harm will come to them… Well, I hope not… Today, I went outside in my front yard to get the morning newspaper… And, there was a Bunny Rabbit in my yard and it was looking at me…. So, I went inside and got some carrots …. When I came back it was gone… So, I left the carrots ….. Well, later in the day… While doing stuff…. I looked again and the little rabbit was eating the carrots…. I know, the story about feeding wildlife….but, we people have take sooooooooo much away from them…. It is up to us to give a little something back….. even if it is in a small way…

Off to bed. Goodnight Goofs, Casper, Jen the Michigander.
Goodnight Puma Nation.

Good to end the day with a laugh.

DWP… Bunny Carrotnuit….. really, Bonne Nuit/Good Night… have a wonderful sleep and remember… tomorrow is another day!!!!!!!!!!!! Sweet dreams DWP…… ((((DWP))))

The Obot bloggers have gone wild, just frantic over Palin’s antics. The Daily Kos and the Huffinton Post are just pumping the misogynistic sludge like bilge pumps on a sinking vessel.

Bbbbbbbwwwwwwwahahahahaha!

Go Sarah!

The headline: Joe Biden slap shot at Sarah Palin: Says quittin’ gov isn’t any victim

What he said:

Vice President Biden rejected Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin’s complaint that she was the victim of political blood sport yesterday – a day after she stunned the nation with her abrupt resignation.

Asked if he agreed with Palin’s contention, Biden told ABC’s George Stephanopoulos simply, “No … I don’t.”

Biden, speaking about his vanquished 2008 vice presidential rival while on a trip to Iraq, said he respects Palin’s decision to step down.

“I don’t know what prompted her decision to not only not run again and also to step down as a consequence of the decision not to run in 2010,” Biden said, “and I take her at her word that it had a personal ingredient in it – and you have to respect that.”

“I’m not going to second-guess her,” Biden added.

[I don't see any of the attitude in Joe that the headline implies.]

Tacked into the same article [and this is clearly a dig having nothing to do with Biden]is this statement from Steven Cohen, a professor of public administration at Columbia University: She’s clearly someone who likes the spotlight. She could just as easily be a talk-show host as run for President.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2009/07/05/2009-07-05_joe_biden_slap_shot_at_sarah_palin_says_quittin_gov_isnt_any_victim.html

Obama Urges Groups to Stop Attacks

President Obama, strategizing yesterday with congressional leaders about health-care reform, complained that liberal advocacy groups ought to drop their attacks on Democratic lawmakers and devote their energy to promoting passage of comprehensive legislation.

In recent weeks, liberal bloggers and grass-roots groups such as MoveOn.org, Democracy for America, Service Employees International Union and Progressive Change Campaign Committee have targeted Democratic Sens. Ben Nelson (Neb.), Mary Landrieu (La.), Arlen Specter (Pa.), Ron Wyden (Ore.) and Dianne Feinstein (Calif.).

A fundraising video produced by Democracy for America suggests Landrieu is a “sellout” because she has received $1.6 million in campaign contributions from the health-care industry and has yet to endorse the concept of a government-run health insurance plan to compete against the private companies. The public-option concept, which Obama supports, has become a litmus test for many pro-reform activists who accuse the insurance industry of failing to deliver affordable, accessible care.

“Tell Senator Landrieu to support the people of Louisiana, not insurance companies,” the spot concludes.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/07/03/AR2009070302309_pf.html

http://readthebill.org/

New York Post op-ed writer steals murphy’s post title:

RUN, SARAH, RUN
PALIN SAYS SHE HAS A ‘HIGHER CALLING’ — HERE’S HOW SHE SHOULD GO AFTER IT

http://www.nypost.com/seven/07052009/postopinion/opedcolumnists/run__sarah__run_177673.htm

#115

What do you actually know about Sarah Palin? I’m all ears.

(and did you mean *prophets?*)

#116 – the two i care about is she is totallt against a woman’s right to choose and is pro-guns & anti gun control (big contributor to voilence against women) what else do i need to know??

Is this why legislators don’t have time to read bills?

Congress takes its holiday early

After a frantic four days in Washington, during which there were a phenomenal 240 fundraisers that we know of, members of Congress may be a little partied out. Washington’s watering holes, special interest townhouses and swanky restaurants that host fundraisers will be as quiet as members leave Washington for their districts and states. From this Friday, June 26, until Wednesday, July 8, there are a grand total of seven fundraisers scheduled to take place.

Reps. James Clyburn (D-SC) and Jim Matheson (D-UT) will be kicking off the weekend tomorrow morning with breakfast fundraisers where PACs can contribute $5,000 to host and individuals are being asked to chip in $1,000 to $1,500 to attend.

Reps. Edolphus Towns (D-NY) and John Boozman (D-AR) will be ducking out of DC a bit early for a couple of weekend long events. For $5,000 a donor can get tickets to a Yankees game against the Mets in New York with Towns and his Effective Leadership PAC. If that’s a bit too expensive donors can pick up a weekend pass to go trout fishing with Boozman for only $2,000 (PACs) or $1,000 (individuals).

More at:
http://blog.politicalpartytime.org/2009/06/25/congressional-fourth-of-july-weekend-starts-a

Good morning fellow PUMAS!
#114 Persephone,
With your permission I am forwarding your comment and link to my daughter who is very worried about Sarah’s future.
SexySenior-calm down and carefully read Murphy’s post. Believe me, as a feminist, I KNOW all about Sarah-and I support her.

Here’s what we know.

The Republicans must nominate a candidate to run against Obama in 2012.

The other Republicans who appear to be gearing up for a primary run are Mitt Romney, Jeb Bush, Bobby Jindal, Newt “the grinch” Gingrich, and a few other unsavories.

If Palin adds her name to the list and throws her hat into the ring for the Republican nomination, who will you support?

Who would you like to see run against Obama?
hint-it WILL be a Republican…

The public might very well be so disgusted with Obama by then that a
Republican contender could very well win the White House.

How does “President Gingrich” sound to you?

Got a plane to catch, bbl

persephone 07.05.09 at 10:24 am

Have a great flight……….keep ya head outa the clouds!

Persephone

Have a safe trip

Looks like Sarah is already taking them on! http://ktuu.images.worldnow.com/images/incoming/Release_for_7-4-09-1.pdf

Sarah is probably not qualified since I don’t think any corporate lobbyist own her like they do other politicians.

Murphy, my question was serious, and it doesn’t seem fair to dismiss it as misogynistic. If being governor is one of her qualifications, and I assume it is, doesn’t quitting mid-term mitigate against that? Humble beginnings don’t seem to be enough, and, I can’t believe you really think I would object to her candidacy strictly on the grounds of gender.

The Governor of NC or was that SC should be out of office for HIS jaunt to Argentina with his mistress…is is so unqualified b/c his balls are getting in the way of doing his job. He is so very still in his office being the supreme fucktard that he is ………
I will never vote for any male again, I am sick to death of the lazy Assad bastards!

I tend to agree with Sexysenior.

The trust I put in John Edwards was BLASTED to smithereens!
I never trusted or believed the ass Obiamfromtheplanetoz and that piece of crap reins supreme…trust? trust no man EVA!!!

Sexysenior

What has Sarah done that has not set a good example for your grandchildren?

But, bottom line — yes indeed “balls ” are important to be a leader. How can you lead people, tell people what to do, make impossibly difficult and complex decisions, without pissing many people off, making enemies, etc….

…if you quit?

I think people are REALLY confused about who/what Palin is.

Could that be because she’s been so ambiguous? Seems to me it would really help if she laid out her plans and positions instead of leaving things open to rank speculation. Because sadly, it allows, and even encourages, people to project their own, quite possibly grossly incorrect, motivations and rationales on her actions.

Let’s focus on why Sarah Palin? Or more specifically, why NOT Kay Hagan, Jeanne Shaheen, Chris Gregoire, Bev Perdue, Donna Edwards, Debbie Halvorson, Mary Jo Kilroy, Ann Kirkpatrick, Suzanne Kosmas, Betsy Markey, Dina Titus, Robin Carnahan, Judy Chu, Diane Denish, Kirsten Gillibrand, or Alex Sink JUST TO NAME A FEW

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They must WANT to run, we do not decied for them…but they are not qualified, they have not been vetted by the testicle brigade.

HPBoston

LMAO the testicle brigade

Good one

A lot of assumptions are being made here. First, as far as women wanting to run, Palin hasn’t declared her candidacy for anything, either. Second, it would be a lot harder to hate indiscriminately if you knew exactly where she was coming from and planning to go. Palin is captaining this ship. Where and how it goes is strictly up to her, not the imagined “haters.”

Loggin off now. this is making me sad. eveyrone here attacks those who disagree with them just like they accuse people of attacking those we try to defend. sigh.

Everyone, just take a deep breathe and think what’s really important to you. that’s all. bye for now.
-SS

If you listen to Sarahs speech one of the reasons she gave for resigning was because she spends 80 percent and 2 million in taxpayer dollars in defending the frivolous lawsuits brought against her.it was impossible for her to govern.

Unlike the governor of NC who will spend the states time defending his ballsy act to disappear to spend time in Argentina with a mistress. Unlike the ballsy act of a NY congressman who broke a glass in his girlfriends face and is in and out of court instead of doing his job.

Unlike the balls of John Kerry if elected President would have spent his term defending his affair.

IMHO it took “guts”
Not balls to do what Sarah did.

FLBarbara 07.05.09 at 11:40 am

And I admire and applaud your guts FLBarbara, for all you do for women at risk before and after the balls have battered, mauled, raped and killed them. There are no better or greater heroines than you!

Oh crap Murrphy I meant John Edwards not Kerry.
LMAO

Sunday :: July 05, 2009
Department of Obvious Questions

By TChris, Section Economy
Posted on Sun Jul 05, 2009 at 09:43:06 AM EST
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Joe Biden told an interviewer that the Obama administration “misread how bad the economy was.” The obvious question: How is that possible? The crappy state of the economy was clear to the rest of the (non-Republican) country, as was the need for an aggressive stimulus package. Only now is the administration realizing that the economy is really really bad?
http://www.talkleft.com/

SexySenior–Sounds as if you want your grandchildren to be “openminded” only insofar as they agree with you.

Just for the record, I actually *do* agree with most of your positions, and Palin’s environmental policies as they now stand are a deal-breaker for me. But as of this moment, she has more actual governing experience than Obama and GeeDubya combined, since Alaska seems to be a strong-executive state. Yes, GW occupied the Governor’s Mansion longer than Palin occupied the governorship of Alaska, but the Lt. Gov. and Speaker of the House did all the heavy lifting for him. Perry’s another wet noodle. In fact, we haven’t had a strong governor since Miss Ann.

Admin, I think the Big Dawg actually was an active governor of Arkansas. Not a big state, no, but he probably got far more practical experience running it than either GW or RR during their tenures in their respective states.

It would be GREAT to have some democratic women run for the office of president/vice president! But they won’t in 2012. Unfortunately, NO-ONE – not one democrat – not even Hillary will challenge Obama in 2012 for the office of President. Guaranteed – it’s the way it has always been…the party bows to the incumbency of the current person holding the office.

The only female that may run on a presidential ticket in 2012 will be a republican.

Heh – from the link above:

Just as power abhors a vacuum, modern journalism apparently abhors any type of due diligence and fact checking before scurrilous allegations are
repeated as fact.

and, again further down:

Basic journalism and fact checking would confirm this.

DancesWithPumas 07.05.09 at 12:04 pm

By the way, I’m of (and beyond) the required age and a natural born US citizen. I qualify to be President.

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And I would vote for you in a New York minute!

Heh – love this t-shirt!

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2652/3687427189_a4aae840d9_o.jpg

I hate the expression “balls” to describe courage, independence, or boldness but I know what people mean when they say it.
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Not trying to be the so-called word-police here but do want to register my complaint.
I also know what people mean when they use the term “balls”. It signifies aspirational qualities: strength, bravery, courage, etc.

I’m not so sure little girls and boys know what people actually mean when they use the term, or if they understand the term in the same way adults do.
If they don’t understand the use of the term, the subliminal message is: girls/females are basically omitted from those virtues because they don’t, and most, will never have testicles/balls/nuts/quevos.

Words really do mean something. They reinforce continuity of meaning, thought, intent. I see some as verbal burqas, traditional sexist messages handed down through generations. The message for boys and men is their sense of superiority, and the sub-status of women, is reinforced.

“Anonymous” was a woman, we reinforce the anonymity of women when we use male-gender based superlatives that “we know” include women, by default, sort of like in the US Constitution (all men), or Gays (term for male homosexuality), balls (male genitalia).

Anyway, I wince and wonder how many women and girls feel, consciously or subconsciously, excluded or less than, when a term for male genitalia has to be used to describe women who are strong, independent, courageous, or bold?

/rant

Good morning all. It’s a day in Southern CA.

Dances,

My phone is slow today, me too. Catching up.

#161 re guns…yep I have been on thousands of Domestic violence calls. One gun used.
But sporting equipment, lamps, small appliances,lighters, rope, electrical tape, kitchen utensils etc etc are very common.

It is yet another thing used to get a womans votes just like abortion is etc.

Woman are used and abused in the political platform and once elected no one does suit for woman.

FLBarbara
one word:
iPhone.

Agreed. Whatever is at hand…lighter fluid, bats, fists, walls, poison, hacksaws, knives, razorblades, penises…
everything is a weapon to a barbarian.

Cinie

Not using Obamas resume as a yardstick. Just saying IF a woman had his resume she would never would have gotten out of the gate.

Hillary had 6 years as a Senator and it was not good enough compared to his 143 days as a Senator.

I am talking about double standards for women.

In the primary Bills affair was brought into Hillarys qualifications, even by Michelle. Yet we have elected officials who have had affairs themselves.

Do you not believe double standards exists?

Everyone is always bragging about all those glorious obama speeches, and lord knows he’s given em hasnt he, everyday for what years now…it’s kind of obvious no one gave a shit about obama’s resume huh? that’s the whole point about the qualification issues…the speech sarah gave on resigning had more meat in it than anything that ever came out of his speechwriter’s pen or mini brain…well, maybe this week we can concentrate on michelle’s fashion statement in russia. Is she goin? who the hell knows LOLOLOLOl she has worn some outfits that would and should be in the worst dressed list but she get’s
in the fashion’s top list LOLOLOLOl…and after joe biden cursed
Saddam Hussein during his visit to iraq calling him a son of bitch LOLOLOLOL well, i guess that’s experience huh?
Sarah made the top 100 list of influential people, not on one show was that discussed, but the view ladies were everywhere because of it…hell, i dont know about you folks, but being on that list seemed to important but once again ignored, that’s the sin, and i hope she goes after the media with a vengence about her children it is abuse at it’s worse, just like their smoozing obama’s ass was.

NEVER QUIT AND TO FINISH WHAT THEY STARTED.
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Sorry, I disagree with this statement. If one has the wherewithall and foresight to recognize their continued effort in a certain direction is fruitless, there’s no shame is changing direction, or in quitting what one has begun. Otherwise it’s an exercise in futility all in the name of not quitting. ‘Quiting’ or ‘finishing’ anywhere along the path still qualifies as ‘finishing’.

competent, qualified, dedicated, committed, honest , willing to work hard to advance policies I care about,

sounds like SARAH PALIN to me

Barbara,
And as much as women want it to stop only men can accomplish that.
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We can support men in controlling their negative behaviors by at least increasing the consequences… legally or otherwise.

Swannie, there is no evidence that Sarah Palin is going to work hard to promote choice, gay marriage or universal health care. Her dedication and commitment is questionable in light of her recent resignation. She may be competent, but you can’t quit the presidency, and I wouldn’t want to vote for a candidate who might, even if we did agree on issues.

We have a violence problem in this world especially towards women..

Women die at the hands of those who believe we are pond scum.

Women in the Middle east are killed with stones.

It is not guns it is the belief system.

Hi Murphy & Puma girls & boys,

Cinie #189 ditto, ditto!!!

I will add that CHANGE for the POTUS means a
WOMAN……..Why???….because there has been
NO change. And how many male US presidents have
we had???????????????????

I’m not a Palin fan, but I do stand beside her as a woman.
I’m 100% in support of the 51% solution in government, although I would settle for the 33% solution… the tipping point. Therefore I am willing to make the sacrifice and vote for almost any woman candidate (phyliss schlaflys excluded.) I do know I will not in my lifetime ever vote for another man again.

Correction….What WE hoped Hillary would do!!

Sure you can quit the presidency, you can quit any job you want in this country. Come to think of it, it would be wonderful of some had LOLOLOL like Nixon LOLOLOLOLOL

I like Sarah Palin because she is an American. I like Sarah Palin because she is a bold, bright, beautiful person. I believe that this country would be better off with her as President, than BO. Her qualifications? Her platforms, positions and policies? What are they? I think she is still evolving. We will just have to wait and see.

Actually, I still think Hillary Clinton is this countries best bet for a leader. I will even confess that I sometimes go an make a donation of $20.12 to her campaign fund.

Jezzus I hear a lot of people here expecting an awful lot from a little woman? Hey we must be nuts, no man can even do that even if he was qualified. It is going to take a revolution to take down OBIE! B/c another appointed puppet will be backed up into the pretenderdent spot…….

Cinie 07.05.09 at 1:43 pm

Well Murphy, my last word on the subject; I don’t want a woman president just for the sake of having one, just like I didn’t want a black president for the same reason. I want competent, qualified, dedicated, committed, honest leaders in all public office who are willing to work hard to advance policies I care about, and I don’t really care about much more than that. I have no doubt that a great many of those kinds of people are black and/or female. That’s why I supported Hillary.
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I agree with you Cinie and personally I would like to toss all the bums out that don’t fit that criteria, if that could happen there would be about 4 people left in the congress.
I don’t know how I feel about Palin right now because I don’t know why she quit as governor. I do support women that get a bum rap and I do think she qualifies to run…just not sure if she will or what her far right beliefs are at this point.

I would love for her to start a NOW group for Republican women and have the women of both parties come together and pass the ERA and kick the incompetent men out of congress.

I reserve my judgment on Sarah until I find out the ‘facts’.

I had to laugh out loud when i heard poor ole joe biden say they “misread” the economylololololol
hell, joe no one even read the damned stimulus package you are supposed to be overseeing, i guarantee you you nor obama did, obama couldnt have, he’s making speeches all the time, but he found time to run out and interrupt gibbs in the middle of press conference to announce a new opening for supreme court.
It’s a proven fact the cap and trade bill will create more jobless numbers in our country, and the healthcare bill is another joke so far, yep, we gots us some real brains up there
in that washington soaked filled lobbying ass place

Count me in as part of the group that will open the gates ourselves!

I don’t know what Palin is up to giving up the Alaska State House but I do have trouble with it: She gave a female governorship to a male Lt. Governor which may put HIM in a position to run for president. She may have been bullied by the media forces, left and right,into resigning which sets a poor example for other aspiring females to higher office. She resigned because the male Republican hierarchy didn’t want her around diverting attention and were not going to support her for a second term.

Hillary is a stronger leader than Palin because none of those things would get her out of national politics because the CAUSE OF THE PEOPLE IS MORE IMPORTANT TO HER THAN PERSONAL AMBITION.

Hillary took as much or more hell than Palin during her WH spouse years. She was accused of everything from witchcraft to murder, hated as an enabler of Bill and a cold bitch. She stood up for single payer, which was opposed by big medicine, big pharma and a vicious, ascendant, take no prisoners attitude of the right wing. Chelsea was also attacked and Hillary was accused of “pimping” her and being a bad mother. Did Hillary resign? No. She sent Chelsea out into the field to campaign for her, very effectively, and may have created a successor in her wonderful, committed daughter.

For my money, at least for now, Hillary has it all over Palin.

language, representation, public images and image-making — ALL of these have to come together to make a juggernaut.
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Yup. Verbal and visual language

STOP pretending it’s between Hillary and Sarah. I’ll give you $100 bucks if HRC runs in 2012. So the main candidate against Obama WILL be a Republican (like it or not). And many of us on this blog are left leaning, so we don’t agree on many of the repub points of view. Stop insisting that a candidate must agree with ALL our personal stances on the issues. Ain’t never going to happen, whether it is a repub or a dem. Focus on the goal – Obama out and hopefully a woman in. Stop setting up false choices. If a female candidate is totally unacceptable, then vote for somebody else. This constant reinforcing the party line drives me nuts.

PUMAbear 07.05.09 at 2:34 pm
Hillary did resign. She gave up her Senate seat and took a job in the administration. That is resigning.

Read up thread about Palin and a criminal indictment.

I would not be convinced by an indictment that Palin has done anything criminal.

Criminal indictments are sometimes staged or prosecutions brought in order to find something, anything to discredit a person. Ken Starr and co. spent years searching through the Clinton’s personal data and imprisoning their friends and former business associates to try to find something indictable. Even though that didn’t work it drained the Clinton’s of energy, focus, and wealth, prevented them from being more effective leaders and eroded their public image which may have led, indirectly, to the defeat of Al Gore.

If the right is going after her it’s to get her off the stage. If it’s the left, same reason.

Wow. After winning over the public with her simplicity, down-to-earth homespun charm and egalitarianism what better way to discredit her than making an embezzlement charge? Stealing the people’s money, secretly vain, greedy and elitist? That would finish her.

BigCatLover,

I can see your point but Hill has kept her hand in in order to work effectively abroad for human right, women’s and girls rights. If she had kept her senate seat, as a junior senator BO and Co. would have denied her any high profile committee chairmanship, she would get nothing done and her star would be eclipsed.

If anything happened to BO, Hill still has a huge following and name recognition like no other woman.

No link available, but this afternoon FOX News had a Dem and a Repub political strategist comment on SP’s resignation. Both men said she should have stayed in place blah blah blah. The Dem of course was obviously relishing the controversy. The Repub looked concerned, but said the Party would be fine without her. The Dem mentioned all the possible better candidates Republicans can run-not one of them a woman. Somehow this Dem seemed very agitated. Palin/Female derangement syndrome, I thought.
At least the Republican wouldn’t predict whether she would run or not, just seemed confused.

Scarlet,

Sometimes pro forma denials precede indictments, sometimes endless talk of the possibilities and then denials is enough to convince that where there is smoke there’s fire. When asked for reasons they’ll say they can’t say anything because there’s an investigation. The press can jump on it and make something out of nothing.

In the “ratfuck” world documents are forged and evidence planted. Anything could happen.

July 5, 2009 – Op-Ed Columnist
The Best Kids’ Books Ever
By NICHOLAS D. KRISTOF

“A mountain of research points to a central lesson: Pry your kids away from the keyboard and the television this summer, and get them reading. Let me help by offering my list of the Best Children’s Books — Ever!”

He lists 13 books:
4 – animal characters
7 – male main characters
2 – girl main characters

oh, and he yawned over the Nancy Drew books.
“2. The Hardy Boys series. Yes, I hear the snickers. But I devoured them myself and have known so many kids for whom these were the books that got them excited about reading. The first in the series is weak, but “House on the Cliff” is a good opener. (As for Nancy Drew, I yawned over her, but she seems to turn girls into Supreme Court justices. Among her fans as kids were Sandra Day O’Connor, Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Sonia Sotomayor.)”
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In other words, so fuckin’ what? Nancy Drew’s influence on girls (even those who grew up to be SC Justices) does not earn its own spot in Pissoff’s listing.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/05/opinion/05kristof.html?em=&pagewanted=print

the problem is the MEDIA, please understand this…you have all written about GE owning most of it, good grief, they think they can make or break anyone, they pick and choose who they will bring down, period, and quite frankly i would love to see the media on all sides just stick to freaking facts period

http://www.northstarwriters.com/dc290.htm

Compelling. It is frustrating that a person who actually accomplished so much for Alaska is being called a quitter by some even here. I understood her to say, ‘since I’m not running for re-election, why should I collect a paycheck as a lame duck?’
It is a win-win situation for her and Alaska. Did anybody else hear that message? (Funny her detractors don’t say she did the right thing either!)

BCL,
at this point Palin is not a candidate either. I’m not squaring off Hill v Palin in a race. Yeeks. I’m expressing my view about the various acts and character traits of these to public women.

For all the talk about supporting women, there is an awful lot of antagonism against Sotomayor for SC for specific ideological reasons so why does every one have to fall in line about Palin or be accused of disrupting this movement’s goal?

And here’s something else I have to say about the liberal vs. conservative woman discussion: I am a pro-choice AND privacy rights advocate. If I had to make the choices Palin has had to make, I’m sure they would have been the complete opposite. But I think it’s horrible to criticize a MOTHER for loving her child! I defend the right of a mother to think her child is perfect just the way he is, because he’s perfect to her.

http://hotair.com/greenroom/archives/2009/07/04/it-always-has-been-about-trig/

I absolutely applaud Sarah Palin for doing the right thing for the people of Alaska by stepping aside to stop the waste of taxpayer dollars and stop the waste of the governor’s time to defend herself on numerous (probably unending) frivolous and unfounded lawsuits. Her ability to govern her state effectively was taken away by all the “witch hunters”.

How many other politicians have stepped aside under similar circumstances to the benefit of their constituents? – None that I know of.

The media pundits are going crazy trying to figure out why she did it and what she is going to do next. They can’t believe that any politician would do something just because it’s “the right thing to do”.

My kudos go to Sarah for doing the right thing.

Billy Jo
Absolutely agree. I defend Sarah and Hillary from misogynistic attacks, but I support them both for being intelligent, fiscally conservative, and strong on defense issues.

Well said BillieJo.

Here’s the last comment in the article linked to by tsunami:

‘Here’s an interesting possible side effect: If Palin is successful, look for Clinton to resign in preparation for her own presidental bid as “the only Democrat who has a chance to beat Governor Palin.”

This doesn’t have to be the end. It could be a forceful beginning’

What a race that would be. I’d be on the edge of my seat if that happened. But the dem party would probably stand in the way of that ever happening, unless HRC went Independent.

Normapapuma

I was thinking the same thing I listened to her speech 5 times and I heard it is not fair to the citizens of Alaska because she could not Govern because of XYZ.Even though many elected officials do continue to collect a pay check and are not doing their jobs.

The game of political propaganda is being played same as the rape kit rhetoric. Same as the Hillary is a racist rhetoric.
Proven fact that people need to hear something 6 times and then they start to agree, once you agree it becomes a part of your belief system.
Once it is part of your belief system you spread it around as truth.
In Politics you count on this to either elevate a candidate or bring them down.

Last week at the David Letterman rally a woman held a sign Sarah charged women for rape kits.

What is going on now with whinning woman who can’t stand the heat. Sarah is a quitter and how can she be elected President because she will quit. Sarah is being investigated by the FBI is more rhetoric and if she runs it will follow her into her campaign to take her down.

As far as the Anti Sarah rhetoric goes it has been repeated enough to have people believing it

Your opinions are one thing but to repeat especially the Democratic party propaganda is another.
Do,’t you remember how hard it was to fight against? Half the Democratic party believed Hillary was a racist and the party never stepped up and denied it because they were the ones who put it out there..

BillieJo
Love the idea of a joint ticket, but with HRC’s record of loyalty and Palin’s apparent deep belief in conservative government, it may just be a dream. Anything is possible and if the attacks on females continue, it might just happen.

This is off-topic, but it is “good news,” of sorts:

“Democratic Underground Gangs Up on O-Liar” (DemocraticUnderground.com)

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First, the story, as posted by “madfloridian”:

Quote:
Originally Posted by madfloridian
From the WP today:

Quote:
Obama Urges Groups to Stop Attacks

President Obama, strategizing yesterday with congressional leaders about health-care reform, complained that liberal advocacy groups ought to drop their attacks on Democratic lawmakers and devote their energy to promoting passage of comprehensive legislation.
In a pre-holiday call with half a dozen top House and Senate Democrats, Obama expressed his concern over advertisements and online campaigns targeting moderate Democrats, whom they criticize for not being fully devoted to “true” health-care reform.

“We shouldn’t be focusing resources on each other,” Obama opined in the call, according to three sources who participated in or listened to the conversation. “We ought to be focused on winning this debate.”

Specifically, Obama said he is hoping left-leaning organizations that worked on his behalf in the presidential campaign will now rally support for “advancing legislation” that fulfills his goal of expanding coverage, controlling rising costs and modernizing the health system.

[Madfloridian]Many groups are running ads. I donated just today to the one DFA is running against Landrieu.

Quote:
In recent weeks, liberal bloggers and grass-roots groups such as MoveOn.org, Democracy for America, Service Employees International Union and Progressive Change Campaign Committee have targeted Democratic Sens. Ben Nelson (Neb.), Mary Landrieu (La.), Arlen Specter (Pa.), Ron Wyden (Ore.) and Dianne Feinstein (Calif.).

[Madfloridian]May I suggest some requests from the president be directed to the right wing groups who are spreading hatred against the gays, telling women they should not have birth control, and who are going on TV and actually lying about health care reform.

Then, the payoff (I’m posting some choice remarks here, for those who don’t want to muck up their feet over at DU):

Quote:
katandmoon (1000+ posts)
2. Un****ingbelievable.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zhade
184. What he means is he wants help with the spin control. I thought Obama was smart enough to know that sometimes you have to pressure — not “attack” — those standing in the way of reform, when they should be leading it, in order to get them to do the right thing.

Basically, he’s telling us to shut up and stop pointing out how they’re going to **** us over.

Not going to happen.

Quote:
Originally Posted by madfloridian
4. All that warning accomplished was to make me feel like an outsider
in my party. Protecting the Democrats who would vote against real change, and fussing at those who work for it.

Not the way to go.

Quote:
Originally Posted by alarimer
34. I have felt the same way for a while. It pretty much began during the primaries but it really didn’t start until after the appointments began, when I realized we elected another corporate Democrat.

When I voice my disappointment (and when others do as well) here we are greeted with calls to leave DU.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Demeter
117. Obama Said We Have to MAKE Him Do What We Want Done and now, he changes his mind? Or only some animals are more equal than others?

Quote:
Originally Posted by howmad1
177. More like a friggin used car salesman, if you ask me. What a phoney he’s turning out to be.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389×5983602

Link to Hillary’s Village: http://www.hillarysvillage.net/grand-central/19153-07-05-09-democratic-underground-gangs-up-o-liar-democraticunderground-com.html

BigCatLover

BillieJo,
As long as we are dreaming, how about a ticket with Clinton?Maloney (or Gillbrand( or Palin/Fiorina. Any other suggestions along these lines.
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Ah yes, sweet dreams indeed.

Alex01

This is off-topic, but it is “good news,” of sorts:

“Democratic Underground Gangs Up on O-Liar” (DemocraticUnderground.com)
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Well that was uplifting…glad many thousands of Kool-Aid drinkers are starting to see the light.

How does it feel morons??? We told you so!!! This assh@le that cheated his way to the Whitehouse isn’t the messiah you thought he was.

Normapapuma #244

That makes me Sick…what they said about that child should be called HATE speech..real hate speech!!!
If you did not read this..do..then ask where Palin is coming from…and if nothing else she deserves our respect..as a mother!! Link at #244

That is how the elite have always treated..anyone..even their own family members who are concidered retarded.

Read the sad story of Rosemary Kennedy…yes that Kennedy family..that they hide from the public. She was a family disgrace. I have always disliked them for this…and their is lots to read on her real story.

But Patrick Kennedy who is in rehab for the 3 or 4th time in 2 years for drugs…now that is different..he is a male Kennedy.

Read this whole article and see where their heads are..and the dislike for a baby like Trig.

http://www.newsmax.com/kessler/Rosemary_Kennedy/2008/06/17/105127.html

BigCatLover 07.05.09 at 2:47 pm #224

Couldn’t agree more!

drumbeats … Israel -v- Iran

NYTimes – Biden uggested on Sunday that the United States would not stand in the way of Israeli military action aimed at the Iranian nuclear program

Times of London – The head of Mossad, Israel’s overseas intelligence service, has assured Benjamin Netanyahu, its prime minister, that Saudi Arabia would turn a blind eye to Israeli jets flying over the kingdom during any future raid on Iran’s nuclear sites.

do a find for “IRAN” here ….. http://www.memeorandum.com/river

also on Israel -v- Iran

As Israel gears up for war, US divide appears

more here … http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=20090705&articleId=14243

normapapuma #267

Sorry, if you took elites to mean liberals (me included, somewhat) I mean Elite as in Money, Hollywood, Washington types, etc. and yes left wackos. I sure don’t fall in those groups.

Also have dealt with Special Ed, and Make a Wish Foundation. Children deserve to be loved and PROTECTED from fools like that.

These types have yet to except the real world and live in …”O’s” land of make believe!

Deb55
Right on. I like seeing the kids make the most of themselves and their parents celebrate their accomplishments. When Sarah said there should be more people like Trig, some took it to mean they should outnumber normal kids or some stupid thing like that. We all know most Down Syndrome pregnancies are terminated and she was just stating her pro-life beliefs that those kids DO make a contribution to the world as in the love they engender in their families, etc. However, most people can’t deal with the challenges, let’s be honest, and as a pro-choice person I also respect that. I just hate that she’s ritized for her feelings. Sad.
HopePuma,
I think you’re right. It will be interesting and exciting to watch, but something has to start happening soon or this country will be forced into ObamaEverythingEverywhere and lose itself. That’s why we should keep blogging-hoping people WILL get united to make a difference.
Have to go spend time with chubby-I mean Hubby!

I”ll just throw in this article about a big Tea Party which came off Saturday. Not certain how welcome the subject is here, but I’m interested because my main focus is on cleaning up elections and convincing those who were elected to represent me … to represent me.

More than 25,000 attend Southfork Ranch tea party, organizer says
By WENDY HUNDLEY / The Dallas Morning News
whundley@dallasnews.com
An estimated crowd of 25,000 to 35,000 people attended the Independence Day tea party at Southfork Ranch on Saturday, one organizer said. While the official figures haven’t been tallied yet, Debbie Meyers said the bulk of the crowd arrived after 7:30 p.m. to avoid the heat of the day. The temperature reached a high of 101 degrees, according to the National Weather Service.
…
The event had been billed as the largest tea party in the nation, and some organizers had said the crowd could reach 50,000. http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/latestnews/stories/070509teaupdate.f126890.html

Democratic Underground Gangs Up on O-Liar” (DemocraticUnderground.com)

Interesting thing about that thread is that a couple of the Dufi who are most vocal about Obama’s shortcomings were among the most rabidly vicious of his supporters during the primaries.

Cue some Bob Dylan:

“How does it feel
Now that you’re on your own
No direction home
Like a complete unknown”

sorry murphy, didn’t read far enough, as far as Sexy and cinnie.

SAW you answered for us,

I’ll be more patient next time.

God knows what planet these woman seem to be on sometimes

Some of the best chefs are male chefs. The best leaders are often female. That’s because they are used to running a home, a job, and just about the whole shebang, LOL. I have to be totally honest and say that I don’t like or trust Pelosi much, though. She is more like a snake than a good leader IMHO. Not all females are good leaders just like not all males are good chefs, LOL.

Did someone here pmail me yesterday ?
I accidently deleated some messages.

A MUST read!!

Great article at NQ…”O” the liar..on HealthCare.
And most of All the LEFT “O” Blogs taking him to the woodshead.

Some saying Hillary told the TRUTH and “O” LIED. Paid to destroy Hillary and McCain..and now they feel like fools and betrayed!

You will enjoy the read..and YES the kool-aid is wearing OFF FAST! Lots of information on the bill…this bill so far is BAD!!!!

http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/07/05/barack-obama-is-a-big-fat-liar-illustrated-times-two/#more-27230

aint it great that that obama is out of the country, so enjoy!! God, the air seems fresher, food tastes better and there’s a snap in my step when he’s out of the country

its all good when O is out of the country let the good times ride

Oh, my goodness…. DWP…what have you done??????? The goodfornothingkicktothecrubpieceofcrap leaves the Country…And, our DWP goes unleashed!!!!!!!!!!! WOW!!!! Love it…. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-b9Z3MYo2M0

I hope everone at puma pac a great 4TH

Very nice thread starter Murphy and thanks for explaining your thoughts on supporting Palin. i’m with you on the support side and also with you on keeping an eye on certain issues I’d like to see her address. While i’m not comfortable saying I’d support any woman running for office (as there are a few I wouldn’t give my last breath to, Pelosi and her snit fit of a daughter being two of them), I will definitely support someone with more credentials than the idiot in office now. Now, if Hillary pulls a rabbit out of a hat and decides to enter the race, that’s going to get very very interesting. I’m not expecting it, but I can always hope. Two highly qualified women running for the highest office is the kinda change i can revel in.

Ya!!! DWP has entered the Blog!!!!!!!! Oh, what do you mean?

WaterPanter #276
Loved your comment.
Just wanted to add this to it>

Cue more Bob Dylan:

Aint it sad when you discover that
He really wasn’t where it’s at
after he took for you everything
he could steel.

HOW DOES IT FEEL?
You F**king stupid Kool-Aide drinkers?

Juliette,
yesterday I posted a link originally posted by airforcehusker in which a Disneyland was image was posed with its arms out at the waist, palms up/ You said it was Obama praying like a muslim. I know you hate Obama and Muslims (not necessarily in that order)but I brought up these links demonstrating what waterpanther noticed about the wax figure pose. I thought you might be interested.

Waterpanther,

Interesting point regarding Islamic prayer postures.

Here are two links that describe them and their meanings:

http://muslim-canada.org/prayerpostures.html

http://www.islamicity.com/Mosque/salat/salat9.htm

Could it be, Juliette, that you are mistaken about Obama’s “prayer” position. You could still be wrong about it even if you’ve lived in 4 unnamed ME countries and have gone to the trouble to study Arabic.

Juliette, re my last I forgot to add that the figure of Obama praying “Muslim style”, according to WP more closely resembles, if anything, a pentecostal or evangelical christian prayer position.

“Sorry Helen Thomas. The press wanted him, the press got him. Enjoy being banishd into irrelevance.”

http://taralynnthompsonblogspot.com/2009/07/helen-thomas-obama-controlling-press.html

PumaBear and WaterPanther

No I am not mistaken. In Shii-ah practise hands are often held in the posture facing up wards.

http://www.revertmuslims.com/sala.html.
note picture upper left of page.

http://www.usachcs.army.mil/TACarchive/ACWinspr03/agbere.html.
scroll way down/ see photo of soldier praying on right.

one more time UGH!
http://www.usachcs.army.mil/TACarchive/ACWinspro3/agbere.html.

You are apparently looking at the top of the revert Muslim page left hand top with your eyes close if you do not see hands held up and cupped.
The link for a Muslim soldier praying with same hands up pose is at
http://www.usachcs.army.mil/TACarchive/ACWinspro3/agbere.html.

Yes, Juliette, I saw the cupped hands. I specifically referred to them in a post to you. Here’s the problem with that picture:

1. It’s not labelled. We don’t know what the cupped hands’ proprietor is doing, though the pose suggests he’s participating in the ablutions.

2. The cupped hands pose is not shown on the same site’s instructions on how to perform prayer in the Shia manner.

3. The cupped hands do not correspond to the position of Obama’s hands in the Disney waxworks.

In other words, that picture does not represent what you say it represents. I trust that’s clear.

Wow Waterpanther
You kind of have a mania going here about my one sentence comment to Airforse that was intended to amke him laugh.
I guess you think that you are going to convince me that what I have witnessed with my own eyes in several Mosques. I don’t know exactly what you think the man at the top of the Revert Muslim page is doing; perhaps trying to catch rain drops!
In comment #317 I explained that the link to the other site is broken and told you how you could get to it.
I know what your going to say, oh but the soldier is kneeling not standing. Right.

the pose suggests hes participating in ablusions.
Hum, without the water right.

Made an issue of Obama praying like a Muslim? No actually you were the one who made an issue out of a comment made to Airforce.
Lets face it, your real problem is that many of the others have made very positive statements concerning my knowledge of Islam and politics. One even asked if I would run for office and said she would move to Philly if I did.
Like very many people I do hate Obama and Islam. The truth is what drives me and others to do so.