In comments earlier today FLbarbara coined the phrase “Venus Envy” to theorize a cause for the otherwise inexplicable Palin Derangement Syndrome. I googled the term and checked it out with several friends and family members, and as fas as I can tell FLBarbara is a genius. She has NAILED an entire psychological state afflicting up to half of the human population and perhaps causing untold pain, destruction, and violence. Could all of male accomplishment, from the ziggaurat to the nulcear bomb, be chalked up to sublimated Venus Envy?
On a long car ride home today with my 15 year old she expressed her desire to have children someday soon. She said there are two profoundly meaningful things to do in life: One is to die, and the other is to bear a child. Really she said, what else is more IMPORTANT in the humanly existential sense? Holy shit, I thought — not yet! On either one! And then several thoughts rushed into my head at once. First was Yeah, that’s pretty much undeniably true. But, but, but, there are plenty of women who have ZERO desire to have children. AND, more interestingly, her theory totally EXCLUDES fully half of the population. Because it’s one thing to have the power to bear a child and choose not to — that doesn’t diminish such a woman’s maternal power in my view (you have to remember that my view holds that ALL women are matriarchs and mothers, including those who have chosen to not bear children and those who couldn’t for one reason or another). It’s quite a different thing to have NO CHOICE in the matter and be utterly incapable of creating new life. Which is the situation men find themselves in once they start to contemplate existential matters. They are the beginning and end of themselves. Seriously underwhelming thought if you think about it for a second.
Another thing that struck me was that my girl was leaving out the profoundly meaningful act of TAKING a life — of killing, murdering, and human destruction. Which, with very few exceptions, is the exclusive purview of men. If we still give any credit whatsoever to psychological theories for human behavior, could it be that murder, war, and violence are ultimately no more than the male expression of their terrifying Venus Envy?
Definitely a question to confound and distract me for a while. As soon as I can get over my Genius Envy of FLBarbara.
And whatever the philosophical, psychologial, what-have-you truth is, they DO seem to be rawther preoccupied with us, no?
I could do this all night. The links are neverending. Sometimes the most obvious things are hiding from us in plain sight.



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deb630 07.03.09 at 12:45 am
Great post Murphy!!! Thanks FlBarbara – I will send a donation tomorrow.
DancesWithPumas 07.03.09 at 12:54 am
Great post, Murphy!
How the heck did you get my screensaver?? lol
In line with the theme:
Blood, Bread, & Roses: How Menstruation Created the World
by Judy Grahn
http://www.fieldsbooks.com/cgi-bin/fields/9780807075050.html
http://wapedia.mobi/en/Women’s_Press_Collective
goofsmom 07.03.09 at 12:58 am
Murphy,
Marvellous Post Murphy….
It is very true… I am one of the ones that chose not to have a child… I will defend every womens right to choose… The government and politicians need to butt out and quit dictating what we do with our bodies…
(Casper Cat, I carried your hug upstairs with me..
)
DancesWithPumas 07.03.09 at 1:00 am
Goofs, responded to you downstairs.
goofsmom 07.03.09 at 1:01 am
((((Dances))))
You are always so efficient…
goofsmom 07.03.09 at 1:04 am
Dances,
Ran downstairs real quick… and back up… whew!!!!
You’re on… may be a couple weeks yet… still untangling threads. A couple days at the coast sounds to wonderful for words…
DancesWithPumas 07.03.09 at 1:05 am
LOL! Goofs.
“They are the beginning and end of themselves.”
Never thought of it in that way. Mindblowing.
goofsmom 07.03.09 at 1:07 am
Dances,
LOL… I didn’t either but now that you mention it… WOW!
DancesWithPumas 07.03.09 at 1:22 am
KIlling is one manifestation of ‘power over’ life…
yup… that could be one perverse way of asserting themselves as masters of the universe, given the lack of a womb of ones own.
goofsmom 07.03.09 at 1:33 am
Dances,
My thought was… They assert there ‘power over’ life by dominating and controlling their surrounds and others, to make up for their lack of ability to create life. Poor substitute IMHO.
(I use the phrase “they” for general purposes in describing Barbarian Males not all males)gm
DancesWithPumas 07.03.09 at 1:42 am
goofsmom 07.03.09 at 1:33 am
Dances,
My thought was… They assert there ‘power over’ life by dominating and controlling their surrounds and others, to make up for their lack of ability to create life. Poor substitute IMHO.
(I use the phrase “they” for general purposes in describing Barbarian Males not all males)gm
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Exactly. And I also agree with your disclaimer. Good to remind people once in a while of the generalities in which we speak. Altho, many of us agreed to forego adding the disclaimer each and every time, because it’s a given, and because it’s too much extra to type.
I think I have to go to bed now. That recurring wave of tiredness just rolled over me.
Wouldn’t it be fantastic if we never had to sleep? Wowie!!
And, why is it that we never see four-legged animals stub their toes?
goofsmom 07.03.09 at 1:44 am
LOL… Off to bed with you Dances…
Nighty-night… I’m signing off for the night too…
DancesWithPumas 07.03.09 at 1:44 am
Goodnight Puma Nation
goofsmom 07.03.09 at 1:45 am
Nighty night Pumas….
DancesWithPumas 07.03.09 at 1:45 am
… maybe just one more round of flood-it.
‘night, goofs!
henry 07.03.09 at 1:47 am
Until Senators Arlen Spector and Bob Casey completely block my access to their contact forms I am sending them email after email imploring them to do the right thing and vote no on the climate change bill. In an effort to add a little variety I have sent each letters concerning how I feel even a 5% increase in utilities will negatively impact the state. Each email is a different business- public schools- public colleges and universities- local restaurants- local bars- movie theaters- arts performances(don’t care so much here if you can spend a 100 on a ticket you can spend 105)- grocery stores- convenience stores and on and on. May not have any more effect but just maybe someone will say hey if we increase their cost of doing business they will have to raise their prices. Hmm is that a good thing to do when the economey is in the tank?
PUMAbear 07.03.09 at 1:54 am
Goofs, I thought Caspar’s hugs were to heavy to carry upstairs!
Venus envy! I love it! Makes sense they’d be envious. I’m feeling a little envious myself.
Murphy, the election is 3.5 years away. Who’d a thunk G.W. could have beat Ann Richards. Who’d a thunk G.W would follow G.H.W. Who’d a thunk Barack Obama would get to the WH. By the time the Repubs are through BO will look like a sack of shit and Jeb will be headed to the WH, maybe M. Steele will be on the ticket. I think Jeb/Obama is the match-up they wanted, not Hillary/Jeb. Jeb was a very popular gov. in FL. He has an Hispanic wife. Good demographics there.
PUMAbear 07.03.09 at 2:11 am
Here’s a great quote from CounterPunch:
The Wall Street Whitehouse
Recent reports suggest that financial industry lobbying in Washington, at $104.7 million for the first three months of 2009, is 8% down on last year. But that is to be expected – why should Wall Street continue paying top dollar for a wholly owned subsidiary?
http://www.counterpunch.org/
Juliette 07.03.09 at 2:11 am
Henri
I will keep up the pressure on Senators Spector and Casey too.
‘Won’t let them ignore the fact that Cap and Trade is a bonanza for Wall Street Traders and Al Gore’s Generation Investments Management.
Please down load the contract to fax them.
http://www.letfreedomring.com/pledge-to-read/download
henry 07.03.09 at 2:21 am
Juliette
Done
I may have gone overboard but I also wrote Specter that I will be standing along all of the major in roads to Pittsburgh with a sign that reads Specter ignored your interests and voted for cap and trade.
henry 07.03.09 at 2:27 am
Gotta say I believe Specter is the dumbest of all career politicians. Hillary won PA and yes bambi won the general but it was definately not a mandate from the citizens of the commonwealth. So why switch parties? Does he think waffles wonkittes are going to be doing for him what they did for the miscariage of justice which now sits in the oval office? Lots of people in PA voted against BUSh not for oblah blah blah. I see a sign…. hmm something like SPECulaTaR. Looking out for his interest not yours.
Juliette 07.03.09 at 3:23 am
Henri
Arlen Speculator!?!? Very clever. You could be right Henri.
I thought he was afraid of losing the republican primary because of his support for the Porkulous. I hope he won’t sell out and support Employee “Free” Trade Act. That will be the ultimate betrayal of job creators in PA.
Who is your Representative in Congress. Mine is Alyson Schwartz.
henry 07.03.09 at 3:47 am
Juliette
Tim Murphy(R).
Do you know anything about the Comfort Inn on Christopher Columbus Blvd? Round trip from Pittsburgh to Philly with an overnight stay at that hotel for 3 is 245. Thinking about taking my little one on a train ride across the beautiful Pennsylvanian country side for her birthday but I have no clue as to where CC BLVD is. And if I remember Philly correctly you can be in the nicest neighborhood and go one block away and you are in crack central. Of course that was the late eighties.
henry 07.03.09 at 4:01 am
Juliette
Never mind. It runs along the Deleware. Pathetic that I lived there and hadn’t a clue. Don’t drive so no need to ever go there, but you would think I’d have been somewhat aware.
Juliette 07.03.09 at 4:20 am
Henri
Your right. Its the new name for Delaware Ave. on the Delaware River. Its safe and you can get to Penns Landing by foot.
You should take your child to The Constitution Center around 5th and Market St.
I think that you will be pleasantly surprised with the improvement of Philadelphia. Check out Ritenhouse Square; ‘much better than it used to be.
If you come before Sept 7 there is also “Galileo the Medici & The Age of Astonomy” a Officine Panerai production form Italy.
It’s at the Franklin Institute.
http://www.fi.edu/galileo
Goodnight Henri.
henry 07.03.09 at 4:43 am
Julliette
thankyou
She’ll be 3 sept 1 so don’t know about the Franklin Institute but the Liberty Bell,and all of Independence Mall as well as the train ride itself should be a treat. She has commandereed my camera. So if nothing else it’ll give her a great chance to take some pics.
So glad it was a name change as I was feeling pretty stupid when i mapquested the place.
theamericanway 07.03.09 at 7:37 am
GiveTheSenateSomeBalls: A suggestion from a site I’ve never before heard of regarding Crap & Trade as it traverses through the US Senate:
Since Congress is in recess right now and all mail to the Capitol in Washington is being sent to a holding facility before it’s sent to senate offices, we need you to send your [ping pong or golf] balls to your one of senators’ state offices. There will probably be several. Pick one (or pick them all) and send them a couple of balls. You can even win a prize.
http://philvalentine.com/GiveTheSenateSomeBalls.htm
HP Boston 07.03.09 at 8:20 am
Ya and they used to try and tags us with penis envy…what a joke! A woman on crap tvee a while back was with her husband discussing why she would not partake of his maleness to her mouth….she said oh hell no! that’s the ugliest thing I ever saw!! I rotflmao as the men were so thunder struck by the loud adamant rejection!!!
Cape Hatteras 07.03.09 at 9:20 am
http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20090702/pl_politico/24441
Blood boil alert.
waterpanther 07.03.09 at 10:18 am
Speaking of Venus Envy, check out Rita Mae Brown’s novel of the same name.
Interesting, isn’t it, that patriarchs from Aristotle to Aquinas and beyond into the Renaissance have consistently denied that women contribute anything but housing to the creation of new life. Women, according to them, were only “vessels” for the life-creating sperm. According to them, each sperm contained a fully formed human being, a “homunculus” that only needed to be “planted” in a woman’s womb. She was soil for the seed, no more.
HP Boston 07.03.09 at 10:30 am
waterpanther 07.03.09 at 10:18 am
Interesting, yes and the real possession of women came when they they found out the soil could be double planted!
DancesWithPumas 07.03.09 at 10:58 am
she said oh hell no! that’s the ugliest thing I ever saw!! I rotflmao as the men were so thunder struck by the loud adamant rejection!!!
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That is, in part, the reaosn I wince when I here people say “she has balls”, ‘ they need balls”, “he doesn’t have any balls”. As if “balls” represent some elevated aspect of humanity.
BALLS ARE THE MAJOR PART OF OUR GLOBAL PROBLEMS.
persephone 07.03.09 at 10:59 am
balls said the queen
if i had ‘em i’d be king.
the bus is leaving.
persephone 07.03.09 at 11:01 am
hi water!
what are you reading today-any good links?
DancesWithPumas 07.03.09 at 11:22 am
The Secret Matriarchy Club is recessed for the Summer
We will resume our reading and discussions in the Fall.
If you have issues, topics, or readings you’d like to discuss, please send a summary, or links if available, or any copy and pasted works you deem worthy of discussion to the actioncenter@pumapac.org.
Thank you all for 18 weeksof education, insight, and fun!
Meanwhile enjoy the gifts of the season!!
Susie1945 07.03.09 at 11:22 am
Mornin’ PUMAs – great post Murphy – I won’t be using the phrase “set of balls” anymore – no penis envy here – will substitute Venus Envy instead……………
Kinda off topic but I was wondering – Murphy – do you ever go to the Boston Pops 4th of July celebration? I always used to watch it first when it was on A&E & lasted about 3 hrs and culminated with those spectacular fireworks – since CBS(owns A&E -crapola) glomed onto it and cut it down to an hour – don’t watch it so much – but I’ve never been to Boston and want to be there for the 4th – is it crazy? hard to get tickets? a place to stay?
My sister’s stepdaughter is married to a guy who is from Boston – actually, she met him there when she was taking classes at Boston U – and I’ve talked to him a little about it but he’s a guy and mostly doesn’t think too much of it – men from mars, women from venus – different brain waves……..
Anyway, just asking out of curiousity – too bad I didn’t think to ask sooner – could’ve been a PUMA meet up – I would fly to Boston – fresh seafood, cupcakes from Murphy, hey – what’s better????
FLBarbara 07.03.09 at 11:26 am
Murphy,
You have taken the Venus Envy comment and have given it a theory that really has me not only saying WOW but thinking.
It is so true that the male population certainly gives a “rawther” large amount of attention to not only their own sexual organs (penis envy)but to womens as well (venus envy)
Never understood how teenage boys could talk a girl into sex with “loving words” and then call her hateful words like whore and slut for doing so. Is it any wonder girls like Elizabeth (femsex)are confused?
We learn as girls how in love they are with our sexual organs.. Yet the minute they are angry, or they want to serve up the ultimate put down knock down drag out, women are the lowest form of life, they call us Cunt.
WTF ??
They love it? They hate it?
One thing for sure is
They are envious of it.
Question is how do we use it to our advantage?
How do we take the negative associated with words like cunt away so it can no longer be used as a weapon?
Do women fighting sexism do as in the fight against racism and start using their sexist slurs ?
Women would greet another woman with “hello my cunt” ?
What is the answer?
tsunami 07.03.09 at 11:34 am
Ouch!!!
A lot of us men have enormous admiration for Gov. Palin.
However, nobody’s perfect.
Jonah Goldberg has a great op-ed piece out on this topic.
http://townhall.com/Columnists/JonahGoldberg/2009/07/03/a_letter_to_sarah?page=full
Not sure if this link will be hot.
DancesWithPumas 07.03.09 at 11:41 am
And whatever the philosophical, psychologial, what-have-you truth is, they DO seem to be rawther preoccupied with us, no?
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Maybe they (94% of the male population) resent the power the vagina has over them. Their constant need/hunt/desire for sexual intercourse with women, gives women/vagina lifelong power over they who would like to believe they are the controllers / rulers of the universe. The simple (complex) fact of the vagina dissolves the myth many tend to perpetuate.
DancesWithPumas 07.03.09 at 11:51 am
Take ownership of the words. “Dyke” used to be a perjorative until lesbians claimed ownership and defined it as apositive for ourselves.
Same thing with cunt.
“You Cunt!”:
– and proud of it.
– Considering the alternative (prick), I’m proud to be a woman/cunt.
– I have it, you want it
– My cunt rules your life
– I have power over my genitalia, do you?
– Beats being a limp dick
– That would be “srong, bright, courageous cunt” to you
– Cunt! Yes! Beauiful, aren’t they?
FLBarbara 07.03.09 at 11:58 am
Dances,
your comment about “you have to have balls” as if having balls, literally, is what qualifies you to be president.
Is right on.
No Madame president because she wasn’t born with balls and she needs to grow them in order to get any where in life.
Bullshit…we have a more powerful tool and maybe we should start telling them to grow a vagina.
Yep. Mr this is what a feminist looks like show us your vagina….Dick head
.
Susie1945 07.03.09 at 11:59 am
Damm – read goldberg’s letter to sarah palin and left comment – but my fingers were flying so fast I made a typo – now the snob from CA will have something else to bitch about – we can’t talk – calls us hillbillies and now we can spell either – damm, damm, damm, but left note about Venus Envy -
Speaking of ‘cunt’ – maybe those tee shirts from the campaign should be resurrected and say – Cunt & Proud of It………….
FLBarbara 07.03.09 at 12:06 pm
Yep Susie
I am going to wear that at a Sarah Palin rally.
And at an Obama rally I will wear
Obama is a Penis LOL
waterpanther 07.03.09 at 12:09 pm
TC has a link to this interesting article, persephone.
http://presstv.com/detail.aspx?id=99365§ionid=3510212
It discusses, though only briefly, the theory that early “cave art” such as that at Lascaux was created mostly if not entirely by women. That makes a whole lot of sense if you think of the handprints as signatures, a very visual way of saying “by the hand of…”
FLBarbara 07.03.09 at 12:15 pm
Dances,
I am roflmao at your comments #40 that’s what I mean turn it around.
Good ones lol
scarlet 07.03.09 at 12:17 pm
Palin E-Mails Suggest Tension With McCain Staffers
http://www.politicsdaily.com/2009/07/02/sarah-palin-e-mails-suggest-deceit-turmoil/?icid=main|htmlws-main|dl1|link3|http%3A%2F%2Fwww.politicsdaily.com%2F2009%2F07%2F02%2Fsarah-palin-e-mails-suggest-deceit-turmoil%2F
Over 1000 comments to this ridiculous article.
simofish 07.03.09 at 12:26 pm
First – I love that self portrait. AMAZING
Second – I think when I was 12 I told my mom I wanted 6 children – I have no idea where the hell that came from. That must have been a fleeting moment because I never had a desire to have children and I didn’t. Not for one second do I regret that decision. I could have had children. I just didn’t want that responsibility. Too selfish – love my money, my lifestyle. Never understood the desire to have a child. It’s all a crap shoot – will they turn out OK? No guarantees they will love you – take care of you in old age.
When I think of my own mother there isn’t anything I wouldn’t do for her. I call her everyday, we have a lot of fun together – but it works because I live in CA and she lives in Iowa.
FLBarbara 07.03.09 at 12:30 pm
My new Sarah Palin T shirts will be
That is Govenor cunt to you.
Or “that is strong, bright, courageous
Cunt to you dick head”
Cunts know how to stimulate the economy
Dicks only think they do.
I am having to much fun LOL
FLBarbara 07.03.09 at 12:35 pm
That would be Governor
simofish 07.03.09 at 1:02 pm
OK – I am going to go look at plants, bird baths, etc — anyone want to come along?
murphy 07.03.09 at 1:03 pm
Sitting down to watch the stoning w/ HP and pers right now.
HP brought the rotten tomatoes for pers to throw.
Hope we make it through …
FLBarbara 07.03.09 at 1:16 pm
Simofish
Would love to join you but you have given me an idea I am going to plant my garden in the shape of a vagina LOL
Myrphy. HPBoston and persephone enjoy he movie. I am hoping to see it on Sunday.
Have good day all
BBL
normapapuma 07.03.09 at 1:23 pm
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normapapuma 07.03.09 at 1:43 pm
#38 Tsunami
I heard a (female) pundit on FOX say the same thing the other day. I just don’t know what “whining” they’re talking about. Women are always accused of whining if they put up a fight. I’m glad she fights back and puts disrespectful jerks in their place. Maybe what the public wants is a “wonk” but I think she has enough EXECUTIVE experience to overcome that criticism. I think she will know what she needs to know when she needs to know it.
DancesWithPumas 07.03.09 at 2:16 pm
Good luck, Murphy. HP, Persephone.
Cape Hatteras 07.03.09 at 2:24 pm
Scarlett, Palin scares the Republican insiders. She threatens to roll right over their country club insider selection process and make their insider club irrellivant.
normapapuma 07.03.09 at 2:32 pm
FOX reporting Palin will hold news conference in 1/2 hour from now about governorship of AK!
tsunami 07.03.09 at 2:44 pm
This is a positive article for a change.
Question for Beantowners:
How do you all think she would be treated if she ran Boston in 2010? What % of the spectators would show up to shout mean comments and wear hate T-shirts?
http://www.runnersworld.com/article/0,7120,s6-243-410–13221-1-1X2X3X4-5,00.html
FLBarbara 07.03.09 at 3:03 pm
Tsunami
I am sure the hate will be out there again. The point is for every one person wearing one of their weapons there needs to be 5 of us wearing and anti weapon T shirt.
I can’t help but think what a difference that would have made during the primary for both Hillary and Sarah.
Women need to counter their attacks.
DancesWithPumas 07.03.09 at 3:09 pm
My guess is that Bostonians would be outraged by such a display… then again, I can’t speculate and I don’t tend to answer rhetorical questions.
DancesWithPumas 07.03.09 at 3:10 pm
I also would tend to see those types as dipshit obama athletic supporters (pun intended).
DancesWithPumas 07.03.09 at 3:12 pm
tsunami
do you support Palin?
tsunami 07.03.09 at 3:16 pm
This was my favorite part of the interview.
She’s definitely not a whiner; and I’m definitely not Jonah Goldberg!
Tell me about a memorable run during the campaign that really stands out.
Oh, my gosh, the one that really stands out I’m embarrassed to death to repeat. I went for a run at John McCain’s ranch a couple of days before the debate with Joe Biden. My favorite thing in the world is to run on hot, dusty roads. I don’t get enough of that in Alaska. So I was in heaven and there were plenty of hills so I knew my thighs were going to just throb and my lungs were going to burn and that’s what I crave.
I like running alone and having the Secret Service with me added a little bit of pressure. I’m thinking I gotta have good form and can’t be hyperventilating and can’t be showing too much pain and that adds a little more pressure on you as you’re trying to be out there enjoying your run. Then I fell coming down a hill and was so stinkin’ embarrassed that a golf cart full of Secret Service guys had to pull up beside me. My hands just got torn up and I was dripping blood. In the debate you could see a big fat ugly Band-Aid on my right hand. I have a nice war wound now as a reminder of that fall in the palm of my right hand. For much of the campaign, shaking hands was a little bit painful.
I don’t remember news reports about it.
Heck no! I made those guys swear to secrecy. And I probably should have gotten a couple stitches. But I was insisting with these guys, “Absolutely not, let’s just wash it out.” I appreciated how much care they took to help me out. So anyway, I have a little scar on my hand, and I’ve seen a couple of pictures from the debate or of me waving to someone on the campaign trail with that Band-Aid and I think, nobody else knows about it.
So the Secret Service guys kept silent?
They did! And I have this great respect for them that they’ve kept silent all these months later.
DancesWithPumas 07.03.09 at 3:20 pm
tsunami,
would you happen to have a link for that interview, or did I miss it upthread?
airforcehusker 07.03.09 at 3:27 pm
Its official. Sarah Palin will not seek second term as she is planning a 150% commited run at Obama in 2012 and the Presidency……..
http://race42008.com/2009/07/03/palin-announces-2012-campaign/#comments
tsunami 07.03.09 at 3:27 pm
dwp
I would definitely enjoy being able to say, President Palin
or VP Palin 1/20/2013. Sure. Why not?
If for no other reason than to watch the Otards freak out.
That would be waaaaay more fun than anyone should be allowed to have. Losing in ‘08 might not have been the worst thing that ever happened to her. Barky’s dishing her the ammo to defeat him every time he opens his mouth – on a freakin’ silver platter imo.
normapapuma 07.03.09 at 3:28 pm
Sarah Palin announced she will not run for Gov of Alaska next year. Speculation: Will prepare run for President.
airforcehusker 07.03.09 at 3:32 pm
CNN Palin comments:
1. Her political standing has slipped enough that she could lose if she tried to retain her current office.
2. Her political standing has slipped enough that even if she won, she would likely be bloodied in the race, maybe even in a primary.
3. Even more ethics complaints (many frivolous) would be filed against her.
4. She’s got a book to write.
5. She’s got a special needs baby to raise.
6. It is logistically impossible to run for president as the sitting governor of Alaska — because of flight times. (Not hard: *impossible*)
7. She can’t truly explore her money-making potential as an incumbent governor.
8. She can’t truly explore her media potential as an incumbent governor.
9. The legislature has turned so much against her that the job isn’t much fun any more.
10. If she wants to be the Republican Party’s presidential nominee in 2012, she needs to spend more time raising money, establishing her international and national expertise, and traveling the Lower 48. And she needs to start now.
DancesWithPumas 07.03.09 at 3:32 pm
tsunami
agree with oloserboy dishing ammo for his inevitable defeat (barring his lifelong methodology of cheating and fraud, of course).
I don’t take satisfaction in morons freaking out though…
since we’re all suffering the consequences of their ignorant lunacy. Just hope they awaken from their kool-aid koma sooner than later. Fools.
normapapuma 07.03.09 at 3:32 pm
FOX pundits complaining that she should have given major networks more notice of her announcements so they could have been there with THEIR cameras. Now who’s whining?
airforcehusker 07.03.09 at 3:33 pm
Will be resigning in the next couple of weeks
http://www.ktuu.com/Global/story.asp?S=10641495
tsunami 07.03.09 at 3:35 pm
dwp
The link is at #58.
I’m surprised by that news.
I think she should have run for Gov. again.
Maybe!?
airforcehusker 07.03.09 at 3:36 pm
I am shocked the obot arent all over her in the comment threads on cnn. From what i can tell it is about 50-50 pro sarah versus anti sarah………
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/07/03/palin-will-not-run-for-re-election/#comments
airforcehusker 07.03.09 at 3:37 pm
one obots comment
fanta July 3rd, 2009 3:20 pm ET
She’s insane
Can’t be contained
Will drain the party ranks and split the base
She’s a nut
And stupid – but
That’s whut will help Obama win the race
DancesWithPumas 07.03.09 at 3:37 pm
normapapuma 07.03.09 at 3:32 pm
FOX pundits complaining that she should have given major networks more notice of her announcements so they could have been there with THEIR cameras. Now who’s whining?
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why on earth would she go out her way to invite the same media that trashed her, along with HRC, at every turn? Besides, mainstream media is experiencing a death knell… deah by suicide. buh bye MSM (misogynist sexist media).
No loss there. ::::: shrug::::
Now the pigs will have to retreat to their 8th grade gym locker rooms to carry on. eff em
DancesWithPumas 07.03.09 at 3:40 pm
airforcehusker 07.03.09 at 3:36 pm
I am shocked the obot arent all over her in the comment threads on cnn. From what i can tell it is about 50-50 pro sarah versus anti sarah………
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/07/03/palin-will-not-run-for-re-election/#comments
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Now that youve posted that link and comment, the stalkers will be running over there right now. At least it keeps them off the streets, and outta trees where they sit peering into the bedroom windows of their mothers and other women.
The internet provides the virtual version of the same… otherwise, why waste their time stalking us? Freakazoids.
BillieJo 07.03.09 at 3:46 pm
Sarah will step down as Governor at the end of this month before the end of her term.
Not sure what’s really up yet.
DancesWithPumas 07.03.09 at 3:46 pm
airforce
She’s insane
Can’t be contained
Will drain the party ranks and split the base
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Souns like projection on that commenter’s part. Obama will lose the conscious segment of his base all by his own self.
The moronic dregs obama is left with will have help him pack up, and move along as well.
DancesWithPumas 07.03.09 at 3:47 pm
Billie
Could be she’s realized just how dirty the boys are and just wants to get back to her personal life.
DancesWithPumas 07.03.09 at 3:49 pm
Maybe she’s realized that politics is a loser’s game and wants no part of their circle jerk
FLBarbara 07.03.09 at 3:51 pm
Tsunami
Why post that running story about Sarah?
Inquiring my minds want to know.
Sounds a little bit like the old rape kit rhetoric. NO?
normapapuma 07.03.09 at 3:52 pm
Dances #75
Agree. FOX pundits said she probably wouldn’t be running for Pres because the major networks would have been alerted…This is most likely the END of her political career, even giving reasons…blah blah. Then the reporter actually in AK came on and contradicted all their speculation. He said she is THE most popular Repub by approval ratings, all the frivolous lawsuits were dismissed and IS expected to devote her attention to run in 2012. Lower 48 FOX practically cut him off! Hmmm.
LJSNAustin 07.03.09 at 3:52 pm
DWP #79 and #80, I don’t think so. I think she’s gonna start making her prep for 2012 Prez. If she was just sick of it, etc. why resign before her term is even over?
airforcehusker 07.03.09 at 3:53 pm
thoughts about sarh on race42102.com
Quick Take: What Is Going On?
Several explanations abound.
The most obvious, of course, is that she’s prepping for a 2012 campaign. She wants to walk away as quietly as possible, burying this in the middle of the three-day holiday weekend. In the meantime, she’ll write her book — which will be personal but also filled with policy ideas; it will be The Manual for the 2012 operation — and devote all of her time to studying foreign policy and national-level economics. She has truly, seriously decided to get ready to debate Romney, Huckabee, and company — and Barack Obama. She knows that she can’t fulfill her duties as governor in 2009 and 2010 while becoming a serious study when it comes to foreign policy (as well as raise kids and keep her profile high amongst the national in-charges). Alaska is far removed from the rest of the country, and she wants to assemble a top-notch team. She wants to be president, but does not want to merely float by with her — let’s face it — limited knowledge.
And she doesn’t want to wait. She wants to take a chance, here, before her star power fades. She understands that her stock is limited.
She’s not worried about questions of experience, because she can just shoot back that her opponent was hired after being a senator for only a couple of years, while she was a governor for a couple of years. Good enough, right? That’s the new standard.
She just hired a new spokesman, so it’s not like this doesn’t line up with what’s going on. And now that she’s gotten “credit” for the natural gas pipeline deal, well…
Of course, there are the alternative, semi-plausible explanations, but they don’t account for the new hire:
* She’s utterly sick of the media spotlight and just wants to be a mom again.
* We haven’t seen the end of this: there’s a scandal involved and she’s stepping down so as not to cloud the integrity of the office.
* She’s tired of having her money sucked up by ethics “scandals.”
But I seriously doubt it.
She’s running in 2012, and she’s using this time in the interim to campaign for candidates in the lower 48, build ties, study up, and refine her message.
Count on it.
DancesWithPumas 07.03.09 at 3:55 pm
If she was just sick of it, etc. why resign before her term is even over?
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Because she really is sick of it?
LJSNAustin 07.03.09 at 3:55 pm
God, please let her surround herself with the VERY BEST advisers.
normapapuma 07.03.09 at 3:56 pm
#81
FL how does running remind you of rape kits??? I don’t get it.
DancesWithPumas 07.03.09 at 3:57 pm
She wants to be president, but does not want to merely float by with her — let’s face it — limited knowledge.
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as in bush2 and bush3
LJSNAustin 07.03.09 at 3:58 pm
DWP #85,
. Just doesn’t seem like she is a quitter.
DancesWithPumas 07.03.09 at 4:01 pm
LJ
Agreed. But I don’t see leaving teh toxic waste dump of politics as a white flag sort of quitting. I was just throwing another facet of speculation into the pot. If I was a betting woman, I’d bet on the side of higher political aspirations.
normapapuma 07.03.09 at 4:01 pm
Woo-hoo! Let the games begin!
BBL-Gotta go balance my check book.
FLBarbara 07.03.09 at 4:05 pm
Speculation running rampant on Sarahs announcement.
it may very well be she has just said Fuck this shit
Greta just gave a male anchor hell when he said it was because she had a family to raise. Greta told him you just insulted all women with that comment. Would you say that to a male politican? Every time the media says that women move closer to Sarah.
Go Greta GO
DancesWithPumas 07.03.09 at 4:08 pm
Would love to see HRC and SP campaign against each other. Imagine a campaign where the candidates children, gender, oh, and of course, the ol’ stand-by, race, aren’t used to attacked and distract to score points?
A glimpse at real stateswomanship, a glimpse at the pinnacle of civil political campaigning. Something the lowlife gutter shmucks can’t even begin to comprehend.
airforcehusker 07.03.09 at 4:09 pm
She is on fox live right now……
DancesWithPumas 07.03.09 at 4:11 pm
Greta just gave a male anchor hell when he said it was because she had a family to raise. Greta told him you just insulted all women with that comment. Would you say that to a male politican? Every time the media says that women move closer to Sarah.
Go Greta GO
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ditto!!!
are these male anchors paid to be felony-dumb?
airforcehusker 07.03.09 at 4:11 pm
Can i ask everyone here. What is your gut reaction to what is going on?????????
RememberNovember 07.03.09 at 4:11 pm
Is it too much to ask people to believe that she is just a woman of high moral integrity who genuinely wants to put the people of alaska first – not to be wasting money and time defending herself against all the hateful attacks on her and her family?
I am sure she wants to have time to spend with her family and to investigate other opportunities…
The press are going crazy because they cannot believe that someone would do this (that’s because there is so little moral integrity around these days). They are wondering what negatives are behind her announcement, what selfish treasons are behind her decision….
I think she has accomplished a great coup by announcing this on the eve of a national holiday (usually the time to announce bad news). MSM are ticked off because they did not know ahead of time – they had to depend on affiliates to get the tape – she cut them out….:)
RememberNovember 07.03.09 at 4:12 pm
After all the good teaching about Smileys the other day no space. Ha!
LJSNAustin 07.03.09 at 4:14 pm
airforce, my gut reaction is stated in one of my recent posts…I believe with all my heart she is going to make a run for President. She is too driven, too focused, and WAY too popular to just retreat back to her house and be quiet.
RememberNovember 07.03.09 at 4:15 pm
OMG treasons = reasons
Dances, how about HRC and Palin together – now that would be progress
DancesWithPumas 07.03.09 at 4:15 pm
MSM are ticked off because they did not know ahead of time – they had to depend on affiliates to get the tape – she cut them out….:)
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Which means they will be even more ruthless with her if she does run… not that they wouldn’t be anyway… testicles, you know.
tsunami 07.03.09 at 4:16 pm
#81
FLBarbara
It provides an apolitical insight into her private character.
Highly competitive.
Mentally and physically tough.
No shrinking violet.
I can’t imagine that she’s going away.
Axelfraud will get zero sleep tonight.
Boohoohoo!
airforcehusker 07.03.09 at 4:16 pm
She is now doing a live press conference and blasting obamas policies……..interesting!!!!!
DancesWithPumas 07.03.09 at 4:16 pm
RemVem
Love it. As long as HRC is on top.
DancesWithPumas 07.03.09 at 4:17 pm
airforce
thanks for the updates…
my tv is packed away in a closet now.
RememberNovember 07.03.09 at 4:17 pm
what station are you watvhing airforcehusker? Fox has the repeat of announcement on right now
airforcehusker 07.03.09 at 4:18 pm
2 millions dollars where wasted on fraudalant scandals just for people playing a political gain. She is leaving because it is wasting to much money of alaska dealing with liberals trying to kill sarah and her politics.
DancesWithPumas 07.03.09 at 4:19 pm
RemVem
“selfish treasons” … that would be the way MSM would look at it.
airforcehusker 07.03.09 at 4:19 pm
She just said i will not be a quitter but this isnt the way to run a State. It is time to fight for this country and state.
theamericanway 07.03.09 at 4:20 pm
Almost posted a Fox article which says she’s definitely running for Pres. 2012, but then found this BBC:
..Mrs Palin’s term of office was due to end in 2010.
There has been speculation that Mrs Palin, who is very popular with the Republican Party base, might make a bid for the White House in 2012. Commentators have also suggested Mrs Palin could be considering a run for one of Alaska’s Senate seats. Polls indicated she was very popular in Alaska during the first few years of her governorship, and although her approval ratings have dipped somewhat since her vice-presidential run, she still enjoys widespread popularity in her home state.
In a statement announcing her intention to step down, Mrs Palin said she had asked her family for their opinion before making her decision. Mrs Palin did not reveal what she intended to do after leaving office….
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_depth/8133964.stm
RememberNovember 07.03.09 at 4:20 pm
Absolutely – on top – wouldn’t that just be amazing!!! Only two women would have the integrity and selflessness to do that
Palin just said she doesn’t care what Party people are in…..
airforcehusker 07.03.09 at 4:20 pm
She just said irregaurdless of parties i will do what i can to help all people who want to shake up and change this country. That is what this is all about. She is going to be running as an outsider to washington and politics and i believe this is smart….
theamericanway 07.03.09 at 4:22 pm
On the eve of Independence Day. Brilliant!
RememberNovember 07.03.09 at 4:24 pm
Hillary – do call Sarah please….
FLBarbara 07.03.09 at 4:24 pm
Dances
truer words were never spoken in #90.
The media are pissed because she out smarted them all.
No one saw it coming.
For what ever her reason. She is one smart woman and will continue to be a voice for sanity in this country gone wild. She will be able to speak to every Obama administration piece of legislative garbage without repercussions and ethics lawsuits because she is a private citizen.
Who could then run in 2012 as the only voice of reason.
I am proud of you Sarah
DancesWithPumas 07.03.09 at 4:24 pm
DancesWithIndependentCunts
RememberNovember 07.03.09 at 4:27 pm
Airforce what station are you watching? Cannot find Palin live blasting BO
FLBarbara 07.03.09 at 4:28 pm
FLBarbarawithIndepententCunt
Lmao the media is going nuts.BWAHAHAHA
LJSNAustin 07.03.09 at 4:29 pm
Dances #116, just fell out of my chair laughing…literally.
tsunami 07.03.09 at 4:29 pm
Maybe she’ll run for that House seat?
Barky would wet his pants if she were at the other end of Penn. Ave. every day.
That would be too much fun!
RememberNovember 07.03.09 at 4:31 pm
Fox interviewing her opponents – what’s going on? who is this jerk on Fox? The anchor?
Susie1945 07.03.09 at 4:31 pm
Jeezus christ – listening to all of the talking heads who are from mars just don’t get it – assholes –
greta had it right – she’s tired of the bullshit -
DancesWithPumas 07.03.09 at 4:31 pm
LJSN
Susie1945 07.03.09 at 4:32 pm
men saying she doesn’t have a chance – its all over – why? did all the women just decide not to vote??????????????????????
RememberNovember 07.03.09 at 4:32 pm
Filling in for Cavuto – What’s his name?
Susie1945 07.03.09 at 4:32 pm
varney something – originally from england
airforcehusker 07.03.09 at 4:32 pm
obama supporter/political advisor just said sarah palin political career is dead. Move on folks but if she is this much of a light weight as a woman she had no business near the white house….unbelievable.
DancesWithPumas 07.03.09 at 4:32 pm
Jeezus christ – listening to all of the talking heads who are from mars just don’t get it – assholes –
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Why are we not surprised?
Susie1945 07.03.09 at 4:34 pm
reporter on now is finally talking sense -
Susie1945 07.03.09 at 4:35 pm
Aren’t there any women they can talk to??????????????????????
DancesWithPumas 07.03.09 at 4:35 pm
Move on folks but if she is this much of a light weight as a woman she had no business near the white house….unbelievable.
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“as a woman”
geezuz… the olimpoids are in for a bit of a shock. Let them keep yammering in this way… theyre doing most of teh work for us.
RememberNovember 07.03.09 at 4:36 pm
Susie – thanks – sounds English with some Australian
Susie1945 07.03.09 at 4:37 pm
OMG – dances – jsut saw your new name – sitting here laughing like an idiot……………………………………. maybe we all need to add cunt to our blog names……………
airforcehusker 07.03.09 at 4:38 pm
Good point on fox just made.
The commentator said look how different it is for a woman to speak from the heart, not scripted but unlike obama how relies on a scripted teleprompter……..
FLBarbara 07.03.09 at 4:39 pm
IMHO we have just witnessed the boldest political move in history.
Sarah is now a private citizen that can speak her mind without the Republican party trying to STFU her.and the Democrats can no longer bash her because she has removed their political motives to do so she is no longer a Republican governor with political aspirations, they would be bashing a private citizen, A NONO.
BWAHAHA she is running in 2012 she will use the time wisely and come out swinging.
Susie1945 07.03.09 at 4:41 pm
yeah airforcehusker – but some asshole said shes just rambled – going from one topic to another – shithead – womens brains are always hopping from one thing to another – we can multitask & think with our brains – no penis here – changing my name to susiecunt1945 – guess that really makes me an old one……….lol
RememberNovember 07.03.09 at 4:41 pm
Stuart Varney is a British economic journalist, currently working for the Fox News Channel and the Fox Business Network in the United States.
I will have to pay more attention to what he says – I apologize for calling him a ‘name’ – I just felt he was asking leading questions and inserting his bias. Perhaps he deserves the name – just shouldn’t have jumped to conclusion without enough data
DancesWithPumas 07.03.09 at 4:42 pm
Pot calls kettle black. Film at 11:
DNC weighing in by characterizing Palin’s behavior as “bizarre”.
Bwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwahahahaaha
DancesWithPumas 07.03.09 at 4:43 pm
changing my name to susiecunt1945 – guess that really makes me an old one……….lol
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“well seasoned”
Susie1945 07.03.09 at 4:45 pm
thanks – dwp – well seasoned is much better
wish they would talk to greta again – she gets it – none of these men do -
RememberNovember 07.03.09 at 4:46 pm
Yes, I owe him an apology – talking about Palin speaking from her heart.
Susie1945 07.03.09 at 4:47 pm
Of course she is gonna run – and depending upon IF she follows up with not caring what party – I will work for her and vote for her……………………….
women rule – finally, maybe????? hope she contacts Hillary
DancesWithPumas 07.03.09 at 4:48 pm
susie
In general, most males, through no fault of their own, are not multi-dimensional in terms of insight, intelligence, creativity.
HopePuma 07.03.09 at 4:48 pm
I’m letting my imagination run wild here, I know. Imagine with me for a moment. WHAT IF Palin were going to really study hard on foreign policy now, and start speaking out openly against Obama publicly? That would keep her in the national spotlight. It would also keep her “on top” of republican front runners. She would become the “voice” of the “opposition” to Obama. What do you think? Anyone have any idea if this is a good idea or not? If it is a good idea, do you think we should somehow see if we could get that idea to her attention?
airforcehusker 07.03.09 at 4:48 pm
careful dances this is a male here….just kidding i know what your saying.
Susie1945 07.03.09 at 4:49 pm
exactly – women are a hell of alot tougher than men – would like to see them go thru childbirth……………………
airforcehusker 07.03.09 at 4:49 pm
So the DNC is saying she cant handle the pressure and her run for the white house is a long shot……
RememberNovember 07.03.09 at 4:50 pm
She has caught the DNC off guard too – they will have to fast forward their planned Alinsky agenda
FLBarbara 07.03.09 at 4:52 pm
Perfect day for Venus Envy
You are watching it live. They can’t get the men on fast enough to figure out what the hell is this Cunt thinking?
Next will be the DNC saying she can’t handle the spotlight of politics.
Fireworks in the whitehouse tonight
I am loving it.
RememberNovember 07.03.09 at 4:53 pm
Me too FLBarbara!
DancesWithPumas 07.03.09 at 4:53 pm
airforce
I know. I also know you and many other male pumas (and most of the women here) know I am speaking generally, and that there are lots of exceptions to my statements. I just don’t post the disclaimer each and every time.
DancesWithPumas 07.03.09 at 4:54 pm
Interesting read at Cinie’s World:
Did Feminism Kill Macho
http://cinie.wordpress.com/2009/07/03/did-feminism-kill-macho/
FLBarbara 07.03.09 at 4:57 pm
What did I say the Democratic spin begins bash her for resigning because she has a vagina and no balls for politics.
They are worried if they weren’t they would have wished her well.
Have to bash her as much as possible before she is a private citizen.
Locked-N-Loaded 07.03.09 at 4:59 pm
HopePuma 07.03.09 at 4:48 pm
“WHAT IF Palin were going to really study hard on foreign policy now, and start speaking out openly against Obama publicly?”
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What if Sarah will study from a foreign policy expert who can’t speak against this administration right now, so Sarah will be her mouthpiece?
One can always wish!!!
airforcehusker 07.03.09 at 5:00 pm
sarah twitter page
http://twitter.com/AKGovSarahPalin
LJSNAustin 07.03.09 at 5:01 pm
Locked, I’ve missed you!!
airforcehusker 07.03.09 at 5:02 pm
msnbc is saying sarah is gone for good……….
http://hotair.com/archives/2009/07/03/video-palin-resigns/
RememberNovember 07.03.09 at 5:02 pm
Dances
Don’t ‘work’ on the eve of a holiday but when you get a minute sometime – is there a way you can link the logout link near the “leave a comment” box at the bottom of this page to the Logout at the top right side? The one at the bottom does not work for me (and others?) and it would be great not to have to go in search of the top lonk each time. I always get the message that “you are trying to log out”!
Thanks
HopePuma 07.03.09 at 5:02 pm
#154- are you hinting maybe Hillary? That Hillary, who can’t speak much right now because she’s working for The One, could give her instruction and Palin could speak from that? Interesting idea….. very interesting idea….
DancesWithPumas 07.03.09 at 5:02 pm
LnL
Bingo!!
You win!
The Imana double door fridgidaire/freezer with ice maker in on its way to your door step! Thank you for playing! And, congratulations on winning!!
tsunami 07.03.09 at 5:02 pm
If she chose to, she could make a ton of money for awhile in the private sector. In addition to the book deal.
Who knows?
It’s good to be Todd Palin.
FLBarbara 07.03.09 at 5:03 pm
The Democratic responce shows you who they are. Their comment was sexist.
Why couldn’t they wish her well?
I would love to be a fly on the whitehouse wall.
Never mind Obama would kill me LOL
DancesWithPumas 07.03.09 at 5:04 pm
RemVem
Just in the nik of time!
Will look into it. Thank you.
BillieJo 07.03.09 at 5:04 pm
DancesWithPumas 07.03.09 at 3:47 pm
Billie
Could be she’s realized just how dirty the boys are and just wants to get back to her personal life.
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I don’t think anyone has more than speculation right now, but I don’t think Sarah would put up with all the attacks on herself and family if she didn’t really want something badly that was worth it.
I don’t think she is ready to become a Stepford wife and yet not sure if she will try to run for Pres in 2012 or not.
I would love for her and Hillary to say fuckum to the two gangs of men and start a third party with Hillary. Hillary and Sarah running together for a centralist, female party. Then again, I am the dreamer.
Locked-N-Loaded 07.03.09 at 5:06 pm
Hi LJSNAustin,
It’s a holiday weekend so I got to knock off work at a decent hour today. But my 11 year old granddaughter is flying in tomorrow morning to stay with me for 6 weeks and I have many things to do before then, so I won’t be on for long, but just had to make a comment about Sarah.
Happy 4th to all PUMAs!!!
theamericanway 07.03.09 at 5:06 pm
Am watching rerun of her announcement. First she thanks forbears for the vision of this republic. Then thanks military. Then refers to acquisition of Alaska mentioning how Seward was mocked for it’s purchase. Now going on to what she’s done for Alaska. Obama could never do better – and he is never about patriotism.
Locked-N-Loaded 07.03.09 at 5:07 pm
HopePuma 07.03.09 at 5:02 pm
Yes, you got it!
airforcehusker 07.03.09 at 5:08 pm
the americanway, this is from the heart and not a teleprompter…stark difference huh??
theamericanway 07.03.09 at 5:11 pm
yes airforcehusker. I’ve had no spirit for the upcoming july 4th festivities and now – all of a sudden – my heart sings!
normapapuma 07.03.09 at 5:13 pm
Not live on FOX-it’s tapes.
She doesn’t want to waste taxpayer time and money in office. Sounds perfectly honest and patriotic. I thought she sounded like a person who is choosing to go ON. She said she will fight and “work hard and campaign for others” to “build up this great state and this great country…” I think she will be looking for opportunities to serve. Speaking for myself-I would love for her to work and fight for our country.
RememberNovember 07.03.09 at 5:13 pm
BillieJo! Long time no see!
I’m a dreamer too. That’s three of us who would love that ticket (see #100 and # 104) – Dances is on board as long as HRC is st the top!
DancesWithPumas 07.03.09 at 5:14 pm
RemVem
Yes, I see. The two logout codes do not match.
RememberNovember 07.03.09 at 5:15 pm
A third party ‘we can believe in’, BillieJo!
Have to go for awhile. BBL
RememberNovember 07.03.09 at 5:16 pm
Thanks Dances – can you fix it”
DancesWithPumas 07.03.09 at 5:17 pm
BillieJo
Then again, I am the dreamer.
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All good things begin with a dream
RememberNovember 07.03.09 at 5:17 pm
So excited at the thought of an HRC/Palin party I cannot type!
airforcehusker 07.03.09 at 5:17 pm
Lynn Forrester on fox right now
airforcehusker 07.03.09 at 5:19 pm
Sexism affected Hillary and Sarah from Lynn Forrester…….This is what the election 2012 will be about.
Susie1945 07.03.09 at 5:19 pm
who is lynn forester – like her…………………
theamericanway 07.03.09 at 5:19 pm
Lynn Forester now on phone: Sarah is a real talent, a big factor. Underestimate her at your own risk. I doubt she is being pressured out.
airforcehusker 07.03.09 at 5:19 pm
Hillary supporter who defected after the obama bullshit
airforcehusker 07.03.09 at 5:20 pm
http://www.zimbio.com/Lynn+Forrester
Locked-N-Loaded 07.03.09 at 5:20 pm
It’s about time Fox got a woman to comment on Sarah. Lynn gets it, and the male commentators don’t!!!
Go Lynn!!!!
Susie1945 07.03.09 at 5:21 pm
ah hah – conservative dem – wasn’t she a hillary supporter?
RememberNovember 07.03.09 at 5:21 pm
Lynn Forrester saying that Palin is on to something really exciting. “this woman is a fighter”
Lynn, if you remember was an HRC supporter who crossed to the Palin ticket
normapapuma 07.03.09 at 5:21 pm
#164 Billy Jo
Sarah Palin has spoken kindly of Hillary Clinton-thanked her for the 18,000,000 cracks in the ceiling, but I don’t remember HRC being as kind to Sarah Palin. HRC said she would not bash SP but by campaigning against her it made us choose between them, and for what? Now SOS Hillary gets pushed aside by BO.
Lynn Forester was just interviewed-supportive of SP.
normapapuma 07.03.09 at 5:23 pm
Wow! We are all watching FOX now?
DancesWithPumas 07.03.09 at 5:23 pm
LOL!!!
Just accidentally tripped over a site called bigot bullshit or something… don’t even bother… the ony bigotry they recognize is the bigotry against skin tone. Blind and tone deaf to any other shade of bigotry. Godjesus, some people are so limited, you wonder who taught them how to breathe.
Susie1945 07.03.09 at 5:23 pm
she’s resigning becuz the bastards were making her penniless with all teh fuckin’ lawsuits plus the governor’s office also has to pay for those idiots
airforcehusker 07.03.09 at 5:23 pm
On a lighter note i will be heading to Thunder Valley Casino to eat all the crab i can tonight at their buffet. The question is do you all think these events are a reason to celebrate for bigger things yet to come???
RememberNovember 07.03.09 at 5:24 pm
L’nL- it’s the women commenters turn (they were probably busy cooking for the 4th and couldn’t be contacted before….
I really must go BBL
Look forward to catching up with all your comments later
Go Lynne, Go Sarah, Go Hillary!!
theamericanway 07.03.09 at 5:24 pm
Meghan Stapleton spokesperson for Sarah: This is a fighting move. I can make a difference elsewhere, so that’s what she’s going to do. She is going to get out there, rally behind candidates who espouse her ideas.
Stuart asks ‘why now’?
Meghan: It’s been under consideration for some time. She’s had inspirational experiences during the past couple of weeks. Announcement may be a surprise to some, but not to me.
airforcehusker 07.03.09 at 5:25 pm
lanny davis on palin now on fox
RememberNovember 07.03.09 at 5:26 pm
Airforce
Thunder valley Casino? We may live close to one another – will check later…
Susie1945 07.03.09 at 5:26 pm
Poor ole lanny davis – is he still relevant?
LJSNAustin 07.03.09 at 5:26 pm
Where the hell has Lady Lynne been??
airforcehusker 07.03.09 at 5:26 pm
wow lanny davis being civil to palin
Sunshinelvr 07.03.09 at 5:27 pm
BillieJo 07.03.09 at 5:04 pm
DancesWithPumas 07.03.09 at 3:47 pm
Billie
Could be she’s realized just how dirty the boys are and just wants to get back to her personal life.
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I don’t think anyone has more than speculation right now, but I don’t think Sarah would put up with all the attacks on herself and family if she didn’t really want something badly that was worth it.
I don’t think she is ready to become a Stepford wife and yet not sure if she will try to run for Pres in 2012 or not.
I would love for her and Hillary to say fuckum to the two gangs of men and start a third party with Hillary. Hillary and Sarah running together for a centralist, female party. Then again, I am the dreamer.
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Thank god for dreamers! I also dream of this ticket, it would be stupendous!! Oh, I would that Hillary would wake from her seeeming stupor and claim her power!!
normapapuma 07.03.09 at 5:27 pm
Airforcehusker
SP’s spokesperson says she wants to get the “job done”. Celebrate!
DancesWithPumas 07.03.09 at 5:29 pm
Oh, I would that Hillary would wake from her seeeming stupor and claim her power!!
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I don’t see HRC as being in a stupor, not at all.
Susie1945 07.03.09 at 5:30 pm
Now some idiot is comparing her to ross perot – god almighty – fuk em
Sunshinelvr 07.03.09 at 5:31 pm
but decidedly a “chosen, watchful, spectator “pose…sounds like a Puma!
RememberNovember 07.03.09 at 5:32 pm
That’s four with Sunshinelvr for the Dreamers Party HRC?Palin
RememeberNovember (RemVem)
BillieJo
Dances
Sunshinelvr
Please add your names
RememberNovember 07.03.09 at 5:33 pm
S**T! Dreamers Party HRC/Palin
HopePuma 07.03.09 at 5:34 pm
#200 I don’t see HRC in a stupor either. She is no dummy, she knows, and knew, exactly what she was doing. I do not understand it, and don’t personally agree with it, but she had some reason that I don’t know about I am sure. I think she would have been more powerful had she stayed in the senate and was a voice of reason against Obama’s policies. That way she would have been a strong “opposition” voice against what he is doing so that when he fails she would shine bright as a leader and voice of sanity in the democratic party. However, she chose what she did. I refuse to believe she acted out of ignorance or in a stupor though.
normapapuma 07.03.09 at 5:36 pm
Head of Repub Gov’s Assn: Sarah Palin is an outside-of-the-box
politician and will do more to promote conservative agenda in the lower 48.
Energizing the base-campaigning for others.
Sunshinelvr 07.03.09 at 5:37 pm
HRC/Palin is a partnership that I could definitely get excited about!!!
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and “hello” Pumas. Have a wonderful 4th of July! Let us all party like there won’t be another like this one!!
Seattlegirl 07.03.09 at 5:38 pm
Sarah Palin has resigned her role as Governor of Alaska. You have to hope it is for some exciting opportunity.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090703/ap_on_re_us/us_palin_resigning
DancesWithPumas 07.03.09 at 5:38 pm
::::::on knees begging the Goddess to disallow ongoing “add name to lists” on the blog. Thank you and Blessed be.::::::
RememberNovember 07.03.09 at 5:39 pm
At the rate we are going there may not be another 4th like this one Sunshinelvr
I really am leaving now. see you all later
Sunshinelvr 07.03.09 at 5:39 pm
Okay oKay!! enough about the ’stupor” remark!! I was trying to convey the fact that I feel she does not make waves, she does not stand out against HIS policies , ahe does not variate from her chosen path. She seems to follow ALL of HIS mandates. And FTR, I LOVE HRC< I did everything I could to help her campaign and did not stop until I knew there was no hope at all.
normapapuma 07.03.09 at 5:40 pm
Pumas: Palin is getting all the press today. Where is Hillary? In Obama’s camp. I can’t see the dream.
Sunshinelvr 07.03.09 at 5:40 pm
Happy 4th everyone..
DancesWithPumas 07.03.09 at 5:41 pm
HRC is the reason oBummblingsackocrap changed his tone with Iraq.
Alice Rodham Puma 07.03.09 at 5:41 pm
hi PUMAs
I have been so busy lately I just haven’t had time to log in much, and after quite a long period of unemployment, being back at work totally wears me out!
Shocked about the news about Palin. I hope it is that she is going to run for Pres, something seems up about it though not seeing the term out, but that said, announcing it today, brings a little hope.
Hillary/Palin Independent ticket? Is that really likely? I don’t think so really.
Have been hearing a lot of rumours though, that Bam Bam and Hillary are not getting on too well… who can confirm or deny?
Anyway, just wanted to wish you all a happy July 4th weekend!!
and if anyone can upload or find a youtube of Lynn Forrester, please post, I can’t get fox here, but I am a big fan.
DancesWithPumas 07.03.09 at 5:43 pm
Alice
Send more tea!!
LOL bad joke, sorry.
normapapuma 07.03.09 at 5:45 pm
Alice Rodham Puma
Hi and welcome back! Agree with your take.
Forrester was on a phone call not video.
RememberNovember 07.03.09 at 5:48 pm
DancesWithPumas 07.03.09 at 5:38 pm
::::::on knees begging the Goddess to disallow ongoing “add name to lists” on the blog. Thank you and Blessed be.::::::
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SORRY DANCES – that was a nightmare – I remember now
DancesWithPumas 07.03.09 at 5:49 pm
LOL RemVem
Love the thought, hate the reality.
Susie1945 07.03.09 at 5:52 pm
Hillary was attacked just as visciously as Sarah and we need to send all the stuff right to mr varney and the dem talking head now is a disgracet to women…………………..
she’s an idiot too…………………god help us
2PumaSisters 07.03.09 at 5:53 pm
Hi Murphy & all Pumas,
I AM MADDDDDDDD & SADDDDDDDDDDDD.
Our dear Gov. Sarah Palin has resigned.
Sunshinelvr 07.03.09 at 6:00 pm
DancesWithPumas, you have mail at action center. TC Pumas!!
normapapuma 07.03.09 at 6:04 pm
#221
We already knew she wouldn’t run for re-election for governor. She said she didn’t want to be a lame duck. She’ll still be a viable candidate for pres. She’s out-of-the-box, remember?
Alice Rodham Puma 07.03.09 at 6:08 pm
DancesWithPumas 07.03.09 at 5:43 pm
A predictable joke, but not a bad one.
Have a great weekend!
HopePuma 07.03.09 at 6:11 pm
Greta apologizing to Jarrett… rats!
This from GretaWire:
Apology
First, I am doing it here and then to him. I figure I should take a beating publicly as I deserve it. I misinterpreted what my colleague Greg Jarrett meant and said in a phone interview with me and I was harsh. OK – now all of you should whack me and yes I deserve it.
FLBarbara 07.03.09 at 6:16 pm
Hillary will never leave the Democratic party, if she didn’t do it after the primary she will not do it now.
It was then and would be now political suicide.
Hillary and Sarah running together will never happen.
tsunami 07.03.09 at 6:16 pm
This is from SarahPAC.
Not sure if it was in today’s speech.
We need those who will respect our Constitution where government’s supposed to serve from the BOTTOM UP, not move toward this TOP DOWN big government take-over… but rather, will be protectors of individual rights – who also have enough common sense to acknowledge when conditions have drastically changed and are willing to call an audible and pass the ball when it’s time so the team can win! And that is what I’m doing!
Alice Rodham Puma 07.03.09 at 6:17 pm
normapapuma hi, and thanks for the welcome back!
What do you all think about the rumours that Hillary and Obama had a falling out over the Iran issue? Hillary wanted him to take a tougher stance, and when he did, he forgot to tell her that he was going to be using her words? I can’t say I’m surprised, but being involved in his administration is bad for her future prospects as I can’t see things improving.
Alice Rodham Puma 07.03.09 at 6:24 pm
http://thenewagenda.net/2009/07/03/cnn-anchor-palin-playing-the-victim-clintonian/
In covering Sarah Palin’s resignation from the Governorship of Alaska, the CNN anchor [Update: Rick Sanchez] said
Oh, I see. So she’s basically kind of playing the victim here, as often times politicians do. Well that’s interesting, somewhat Clintonian some would say.
pass the barf bag, the media make me sick!
BillieJo 07.03.09 at 6:25 pm
Party Name: PUMA Dream Team
2012
Madam President Hillary Rodham Clinton
Madam Vice President Sarah Palin
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(((Remember)))
Billie Jo
Dances
Sunshine
Alice Rodham Puma 07.03.09 at 6:27 pm
I wish PUMA would form a political party. I know that seems unlikely but I wish for it.
BillieJo 07.03.09 at 6:27 pm
Alice Rodham Puma
What do you all think about the rumours that Hillary and Obama had a falling out over the Iran issue?
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The Jackass had better get used to it, Hillary has just begun to show him she is not his ‘yes’ woman!
FLBarbara 07.03.09 at 6:31 pm
Why is Greta apologizing to him?
That makes me mad.
She spoke up to him when he assumed Sarah was resigning to take care of her children.Why assume that? Would you assume that of a male politician?
She does not owe him an apology and I am pissed at her for doing so.
See a man gets his feelings hurt and needs an apology.
But women who get their feelings and bodies trampled on are whinning and have no balls it’s no big deal.
Tired of the BS I really am.
airforcehusker 07.03.09 at 6:32 pm
Taking off to go gorge on crab at a buffett. Take care and catch you all later.
Alice Rodham Puma 07.03.09 at 6:45 pm
FLBarbara same old same old all the time. I can’t see the show in question, but I like Greta … BUT … no way … this has to stop. Women have to stop playing by mens rules. No. more. b.s. No apologies. No surrender!!!
Alice Rodham Puma 07.03.09 at 6:48 pm
BillieJo so are we seeing signs that our gal is back? I hope she challenges the useless prick for the nomination is 2012. LOL. Sadly that is unlikely and would mean a lot of problems for the USA before that happens and I wouldn’t wish that, but he really is turning out to be as useless as expected.
Alice Rodham Puma 07.03.09 at 6:51 pm
*in, not is.
simofish 07.03.09 at 6:56 pm
ok – have been out shopping for plants — WTF – I got an alert from the WSJ regarding Sarah –shit.
Alice Rodham Puma 07.03.09 at 6:57 pm
ok. sorry for the quadruple post but it seems quiet on the blog right now. One more question and I will shut up for a while, where is the idea coming from that suggest that Sarah Palin might run as Independent or for another party. I was just checking out some other PUMA blogs and a lot of people are saying that but I can’t see where they got the idea from. And would that succeed? (technically 2 questions but what the hell!) More interesting than the good old boys club anyway!
simofish 07.03.09 at 7:04 pm
I am not so sure if she’ll get back into the National spot light.
normapapuma 07.03.09 at 7:07 pm
#228 Alice
We’ve been commenting here in the past few days about the fact that HRC is being pushed aside. BO is sending envoys (like JOE Biden!)going to foreign countries and different spokesperson (Axelrod!) for foreign policy. She even had to hire somebody to represent her views to Obama.
She knows too much-he can’t stand it.
FLBarbara 07.03.09 at 7:11 pm
Alice
Yep no way surrender to sexism and misogyny.
Going to happy hour
And something to eat.
BBL
Juliette 07.03.09 at 7:11 pm
LJSN Austin #196
Where has Lady Lynn been?
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Lynn Forrester Rothschild was interviewed on Fox News by phone. As she was since the undemocratic defeat of Hillary Clinton, she continued to support Sarah Palin with kind words and matter of fact testimony that Sarah Palin is a very intelligent and gifted public servant.
I met with Lady Lynn twice in and around Philadelphia when I, like her decided to support McCain Palin after the shameful undemocratic primary. I thought her resignation of her position on the DNC steering committee was a very courageous and honorable move. I intend to contact her and see if we can help orginize women and men in my area again to support Palin in what ever her aspirations might be. I am hoping she will run for president against Obama in 2012, if we cannot impeach the dictator before then.
I admire Lady Lynn very much especially because, with her financial status in the world, one would think that she’d be just fine with this New World Oligarchy the Obama adminsration is speeding US toward. Apparently Lynn remembers from where she came and supports the people who want to work hard to acheive sucess. She was a self made millionaire in a pre-Obama America. I think that she wants America to continue to be a place where a middle class girl from New Jersey can go on to found a corporation like telecom. She had the courage to tell the DNC where to go when they decide to embrace Shar-iah liberalism. I will aways respect her for that.
normapapuma 07.03.09 at 7:14 pm
#240 Simofish
FOX’s Stuart Barney interviewed the head of the Rep Govs Assn who said he discussed with her recently all the things she could do, if she left the Office, to promote the Party’s agenda .
I think she will make lots of money speaking (She’s a rock star) and writing a book. This will add to her resume. She will also curry lots of favors campaigning for others who will return the favors with support when she calls it in, probably in a year or so.
Susie1945 07.03.09 at 7:21 pm
If I can find the stuff – I’m gonna send all of the crap that was spouted against Hillary to Mr. smartypants Varney – he said he really didn’t think Hillary was attacked as visciously as Sarah – oh yeah – taking her out behind the barn and only one returning and it’s not Hillary – what the hell is that? bedtime story for obozowhocheated?
normapapuma 07.03.09 at 7:27 pm
#244 About intention of HRC to “raise her profile”. I thought SOS was the highest profile for foreign policy, but I guess not.
http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2009/06/23/longtime_clinton_confidante_sid_blumenthal_to_become_clinton_advisor
normapapuma 07.03.09 at 7:33 pm
#245
That would be great to do, though economist Barney is just unaware.
Republicans and some conservatives did comment on how badly Hillary was treated in the primary, but they waited for it to be over first. I guess they thought they’d be running against her and were being cautious. I really blame the Obots for the really bad behavior.
Susie1945 07.03.09 at 7:41 pm
These stupid talking heads just don’t get it – I may throw the TV again if I hear one more of them saying – well to be in politics you gotta have a thick skin – why? when did that become a requirement? has this country sunk so low that civility is dead? did I really just ask that last question – shit I know better – of course, civility is dead and so is journalism – I’m old enough to say that I remember the old days when people were a litle kinder to each other – I don’t know maybe it’s becuz of the tech – everything and anything circulates world wide in seconds so every action and reaction is instantaneous and without thought – thinking used to be a well used skill – not so much anymore………………..
simofish 07.03.09 at 7:43 pm
#196 & 243 — I love Lady Lynn — I have a huge crush on her — the Mrs. doesn’t like me talking about it – she rolls her eyes.
#244 — that makes me feel better !!
DancesWithPumas 07.03.09 at 7:45 pm
Write to Greta.
Here are some model comments upon which to base your own:
FLBarbara 07.03.09 at 6:31 pm
Why is Greta apologizing to him?
That makes me mad. She spoke up to him when he assumed Sarah was resigning to take care of her children.Why assume that? Would you assume that of a male politician?
She does not owe him an apology and I am pissed at her for doing so.
See a man gets his feelings hurt and needs an apology.
But women who get their feelings and bodies trampled on are whinning and have no balls it’s no big deal.
Tired of the BS I really am.
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Alice Rodham Puma 07.03.09 at 6:45 pm
FLBarbara same old same old all the time. I can’t see the show in question, but I like Greta … BUT … no way … this has to stop. Women have to stop playing by mens rules. No. more. b.s. No apologies. No surrender!!!
webfoot 07.03.09 at 7:50 pm
just read the news about Sarah Palin. I’m thinking she might become a community organizer because that job soooooo qualifies a person to be POTUS.
DancesWithPumas 07.03.09 at 7:50 pm
Does anyone know if #227 is from Sarah’s recent speech, re: stepping down?
Susie1945 07.03.09 at 7:52 pm
Dances – I would leave a comment at Greta’s site – but I still don’t know how to do it – do you have to “start a discussion” to leave a comment – I tried before and I everybody here was trying to help and I never did see my comment on her site…………..hellllllllllllllllllllllllllllllpppppppppppp
nicfit 07.03.09 at 8:01 pm
Very interesting and exciting concept of Venus Envy. I would argue that it is a relatively new phenomena in Western culture and this not well-explored. It probably stems from the women’s Lib movement and thus only ageneration of men or so have fully been raised with the idea that women, not men, do indeed control their very survival. I’d argue that before the women’s Lib movement women weren’t at all in control of bringing life into the world and men had much more control of propagation. Since that has changed, men have necessarily fond themselves walking in the wilderness, increasingly angry and mbirtered at women who now control the replication of all genetic material. Thus: Venus envy. Not that I think the current imbalance of reproductive freedom is necessarily right, as I’m an equalist mother of three sons.
AniEm 07.03.09 at 8:05 pm
It seems farfetched, but I would love to see a Clinton-Palin tete-a-tete in the near future. There is no reason for Clinton to be loyal to the Democrats and no reason for Palin to be loyal to the Republicans. There is no reason for any taxpayer in this country to be loyal to either party. I seriously think these two extraordinary women could pull it off: the new political party the country desperately needs.
stoney42 07.03.09 at 8:14 pm
Does anyone know how many web sites are devoted to Hillary? I don’t, just asking.
normapapuma 07.03.09 at 8:31 pm
#252 Dances
That was definately from her speech. I saw the tape on FOX. What do you think about it?
persephone 07.03.09 at 8:33 pm
#44 waterpanther very cool thank you for the link.
The Stoning of Soraya M. was brutal.
Allah Akbar my ass.
Alice Rodham Puma 07.03.09 at 8:34 pm
normapapuma 07.03.09 at 7:07 pm
really? Joe Biden? It’s worse than I thought!!!
I hope she knows her exit route and keeps her dignity intact. It’s bad enough knowing this jackass is the so called leader of the free world while leading us into chains, but I couldn’t bear it if there was no hope at all in 2012.
persephone 07.03.09 at 8:37 pm
FLBarbara 07.03.09 at 12:30 pm
My new Sarah Palin T shirts will be
That is Govenor cunt to you.
OHMFG ROFLMAO JUMPING UP AND DOWN thanks FLBARB
normapapuma 07.03.09 at 8:37 pm
Alice
I couldn’t belive it, either but I saw the news vid with my own eyes! BO put JB in charge of Iraq policy! So what is Hill’s job people? It’s humiliating.
normapapuma 07.03.09 at 8:44 pm
#261 Here’s an article about Biden’s new job
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2009/06/obama-gives-biden-iraq-assignment.html
lionpuma 07.03.09 at 9:10 pm
#261
That’s exactly what they are trying to do! Make it look like other people are doing Hillary’s job. I don’t know how Hillary could ever serve under this man.
Juliette 07.03.09 at 9:17 pm
On Bidens new job.
I wonder how the Iraqis will fell about the man who wanted to partition the country-Joe Biden, handling state department affairs in Iraq.
O’Burka doesn’t have enough class to acknowledge the sucess of John Mccain’s purposed and demanded surge. He doesn’t appreciate the service of our men and women in the Armed Forses. I can’t believe this guy is my president and it makes me sick that the Clintons campaigned for him.
DancesWithPumas 07.03.09 at 9:21 pm
I do not recognize/acknowledge obagocrap-bush3 as my president. Didn’t recognize acknowledge bush 2 as my presient either.
Juliette 07.03.09 at 9:31 pm
persephone and FLBarbara
I don’t like the use of words like N**ger and C**t to empower us. When I hear people refer to Sarah Palin in misogynic terms I just look at them like they are so far beneath me they are not even worthy of my response.
I might like a t-shirt that reads:
Sarah Palin
Not Shar-iah Compliant
Persephone
Glad you survived The Stoning of Soraya M.
I just kept thinking that there is absolutely nothing that could stop this from happening in America but us.
Was the theater crowded? It was in Philly, opening night.
Juliette 07.03.09 at 9:32 pm
Dances #265
I can’t wait until the military feels the same way.
Casper Cat 07.03.09 at 9:32 pm
Hey DWP… Response to #252 Re:#227… (Yes, I know your are gonna love it)
You know, a post here, a post there, a post everywhere!!!!
But, really, Yes, just watched Greta and that is exactly what she said….
Will be thinking about everything she said… Alot of mixed messages there… I do think what she wanted to do is… ‘Not give any indication of what is going on’ other than, focusing on the wasted time and $$$$$$ of the taxpayers to defend all of the (dismissed) attacks with the ethics committee… I do agree with her here… As she stated….”It cost NOTHING to file these frivolous lawsuits….Yet, it takes 100’s of hours and Millions in tax dollars to defend them”…. I do think there is something bigger going to happen…. Will think about it tonight….
BigCatLover 07.03.09 at 9:41 pm
normapapuma 07.03.09 at 7:14 pm
#240 Simofish
FOX’s Stuart Barney interviewed the head of the Rep Govs Assn who said he discussed with her recently all the things she could do, if she left the Office, to promote the Party’s agenda .
I think she will make lots of money speaking (She’s a rock star) and writing a book. This will add to her resume. She will also curry lots of favors campaigning for others who will return the favors with support when she calls it in, probably in a year or so.
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Very interesting analysis and it makes alot of sense especially in the area of working from the bottom up (in the repub party) and not from the top down. In her speech she kept talking about wanting to help Alaska, so I’m wondering if maybe she will take an energy position in the oil industry to make money or maybe she just meant that stepping down was doing what is best for Alaska. She’s always a new maker isn’t she?
DancesWithPumas 07.03.09 at 9:49 pm
HRC was unique… Palin doesn’t compare… she never
has. I like Sarah for the sharp, strong woman that she is but, I think part of teh St Sarah comments on the blog is in part desperation, and is in part pushing an agenda unrelated to the blog.
my .76 cents (adjusted for obama’s inflation index)
BigCatLover 07.03.09 at 9:51 pm
Fox tv will be replaying Sarah Palin’s announcement in it’s entirety at 10 pm Eastern (7 pm Pacific) tonight. A chance to hear her whole announcement for yourself.
BigCatLover 07.03.09 at 9:52 pm
DancesWithPumas 07.03.09 at 9:49 pm
Would you vote for her in 2012 if she runs and HRC does not.
DancesWithPumas 07.03.09 at 9:54 pm
BCL
will she be running, what will her positions be, and who will her opponent be?
Casper Cat 07.03.09 at 9:56 pm
Dwp… I think under the current adjusted inflation index… that would be more like…. $7.60 cents…. Ha!
Sad but, true… Oh, I just cannot type out the “O” word… Just cannot…….
But, I can type ” kicktothecurbpiecesofcrapfraudthatisgoodfornothing”
Casper Cat 07.03.09 at 9:57 pm
DWP…. did you see post #268???
BigCatLover 07.03.09 at 9:59 pm
DWP
Yes or no
goofsmom 07.03.09 at 9:59 pm
Dances,
#270 – Agree 100%. Hillary was in a unique postion… After “O” screws up everything being untrained, unaware and incapable, why would someone vote taking chances with Palin. Granted she knows more than “O” did when he took office.
Don’t get me wrong love Palin with her honesty and moxie, its just in 3 1/2 more years who can say where we will be and who we will vote for…
Sorry for being a downer… I’m not voting today…
BigCatLover 07.03.09 at 10:00 pm
DWP
Oh her opponent will be Obama of course.
DancesWithPumas 07.03.09 at 10:01 pm
BCL
in that case…
yes and no.
Juliette 07.03.09 at 10:01 pm
At this point I can only associate the Clintons with the New World Order (World Bank Globalism) that Obama is pushing us towards. Its the same old agenda that our leaders have had since George H. Bush.
Sarah Palin would never be a party to that agenda.
I won’t support anymore Washington insiders or people who bow down to party politics. In that respect its Sarah Palin who is unique. She took on the corrupt republican govenor in her state. When will Hillary take on the corrupt dictator in the White House?
Anybody-
What ever happened to the two American journalists who were sentenced in No. Korea. Did I miss something or are they still being held by the No. Koreans?
BillieJo 07.03.09 at 10:01 pm
DancesWithPumas 07.03.09 at 9:49 pm
HRC was unique… Palin doesn’t compare… she never
has. I like Sarah for the sharp, strong woman that she is but, I think part of teh St Sarah comments on the blog is in part desperation, and is in part pushing an agenda unrelated to the blog.
my .76 cents (adjusted for obama’s inflation index)
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I totally agree Dances.
I still am a Hillary centralist ex-Democrat that admires Palin for trying to be honest and putting up with such shit from the media. I don’t blame her if she decides to toss in the towel with politics, if that is her plan, I would go ballistic if people had attracted my child the way they tore up her family.
I hope Sarah doesn’t give up and she keeps fighting and building her resume, that said, she doesn’t have a drop of the experience nor intellect that Hillary does at this point in time.
Both women have been treated like shit and I hope she does see Hillary as her role model.
Without Sarah and Hillary, we have very few women fighting for women’s rights at the top. By Sarah’s resigning from her job as Governor, the BarackoBoyz will feel successful in getting another woman out of the top rank of government.
Fuckum!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DancesWithPumas 07.03.09 at 10:02 pm
BCL
third party or Green may have a candidate I resonate with… one never knows.
DancesWithPumas 07.03.09 at 10:03 pm
Casper Cat 07.03.09 at 9:57 pm
DWP…. did you see post #268???
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Ma’am. Yes, ma’am. Agreed.
DancesWithPumas 07.03.09 at 10:05 pm
Anybody-
What ever happened to the two American journalists who were sentenced in No. Korea. Did I miss something or are they still being held by the No. Koreans?
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Theyve been sentenced to 13 years of hard labor in prison camp.
Casper Cat 07.03.09 at 10:08 pm
DWP….
Ma’am….
you are tooooo funnny……
That reminds me of the days when I was a Bartender… And, some knucklehead would come up to the bar and say ‘Barmaid’ another beer… Oh, that really got me going….
I would correct him and say I am a Bartender not a Barmaid… The look on their faces…. ‘priceless’
Oh, of course no one ever call a man a barmaid?
DancesWithPumas 07.03.09 at 10:10 pm
BillieJo
I hope Sarah doesn’t give up and she keeps fighting and building her resume, that said, she doesn’t have a drop of the experience nor intellect that Hillary does at this point in time.
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She does however, surpass bush 2 and obush 3 by a mile in a nyc minute
tsunami 07.03.09 at 10:10 pm
Maybe Gov. Lingle slipped her the BC?
BigCatLover 07.03.09 at 10:10 pm
I’m just curious about what happened to the sentiment awhile back by so many here that they were going to vote for only women, any woman from now on. I listed several women that I would never vote for at that time for president (Pelosi for example). Anyhow, a great new female or male candidate could emerge in 2012, but I don’t think we should be comparing HRC and Palin. Our first love goes to HRC, hands down, but I’m very open to many other women candidates if HRC does not run and I don’t expect she will. I could be pleaseantly surprised, but I’m not expecting it.
Casper Cat 07.03.09 at 10:11 pm
DWP… In the future please address me as Casper Cat…. After-all I have worked very to earn that title….
(Re: Barbara Boxer addressing a Marine calling her Ma’am instead of Senator)
DancesWithPumas 07.03.09 at 10:11 pm
CC
I have this indelible image of you juggling bottles and slinging beers down the (what was your term?) bar top.
DancesWithPumas 07.03.09 at 10:12 pm
tsunami 07.03.09 at 10:10 pm
Maybe Gov. Lingle slipped her the BC?
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I don’t understand your comment.
DancesWithPumas 07.03.09 at 10:13 pm
Oh, the birth certificate?
Casper Cat 07.03.09 at 10:14 pm
DWP!!!!!!!!
DancesWithPumas 07.03.09 at 10:14 pm
289 CC
LOL!
‘k, caspieeeeeeeeee
DancesWithPumas 07.03.09 at 10:22 pm
tsunami
One would think, as a gesture of his promise of transparency, osackocrap would humor us by producing his BC. Instead odipwad spends millions resisting the simple act of proving natural born citizenship.
Susie1945 07.03.09 at 10:22 pm
Explain “intellect” please – do you all think she is stupid? I think she is a very smart woman – right now she is the only woman I would vote for – the others are gonna have to prove themselves to me – throw up the koolaid & come out of the coma -Palin has more experience than the POS currently playing pretendident in the WH – women can always do a better job
BTW -sure wish people listen to what she said – it’s more or less wysiwyg………………….. how hard is that to understand??
DancesWithPumas 07.03.09 at 10:27 pm
I don’t think palin is stupid, not by a long shot. I do think HRC has a dazzling intellect that puts most others (men especially) to shame.
goofsmom 07.03.09 at 10:35 pm
Susie1945
HRC also has the experience and is gaining more experience to go along with the intellect. By resigning now, how will Palin get the experience needed to wade through the mess left by “O”?
Not challenging here just asking a question…
DancesWithPumas 07.03.09 at 10:37 pm
Have a treat:
http://vimeo.com/5445125
goofsmom 07.03.09 at 10:43 pm
((((Dances))))
#299 – that was a lovely treat… Thank you so much…
Casper Cat 07.03.09 at 10:44 pm
But, one must not forget… Hillary had 8 years in the White House/Senator…. Where she was exposed and experienced alot of what was going on in Washington…. So, Hillary’s exposure/education/experience and serving as First Lady of America was something very special… and, I do think it helped Hillary alot in the Political Arena…. Unlike Palin… She has been pretty much home bound… Not, to under estimate her ability and intelligence… I just think she has to go outside of the BOX to grasp the reality of what is going on…. I liked what she stated… ” I don’t care which party” Now, that is thinking outside of the Box… IMO And, yes she must reach out and expand her demographics…. That is a Must!!! Let’s see what she does….. Honestly, how many Women Governers have ever run for President?? I do think this may be Palin’s way of getting out of the fray….And, staying true to why she ran for office…. Regardless, of what she decides to do in the future…. Now, that is ‘Change I can support and believe in’
DancesWithPumas 07.03.09 at 10:45 pm
Unmitigated gall:
July 3, 2009, 10:32 am
Powell Expresses Concerns Over Obama’s Packed Agenda
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/07/03/gen-powell-expresses-concerns-over-obamas-packed-agenda/?hp
isn’t powell the sackocrap that helped lie us into war with Iraq? This guy needs to go sit in a corner and stfu.
or maybe, do a continual tour and visit the families that lost daughters and sons due to his UN- “2 ice cream trucks let’s get our war on” powerpoint presentation. Worthless sack of lying crap.
tsunami 07.03.09 at 10:45 pm
A cruise around the blogospere today is very revealing regarding the true level of Palin hatred across the land.
Even among people who voted for McCain!
I just don’t understand what makes most of these freaks tick.
Maybe she should just get rich and live happily ever after.
Last time I checked it’s still legal.
Of course, Barky’s IRS Nazis will audit her every year.
Susie1945 07.03.09 at 10:48 pm
Thanks Dances – wished I hadn’t watched it – made me angry all over again that olittlebittydickstick stole the election from her…………………………
How does anyone get experience? The things you do, the places you go, the books you read, etc. etc. etc. – palin will get additional experience – will not be the same as Hillary but then everyone is different and I trust that palin’s experience gaining will still place her on a smarter level than oidonthavetoshowyouanything
Casper Cat 07.03.09 at 10:50 pm
DWP… Thanks… enjoyed it very much!!!!!!!
DancesWithPumas 07.03.09 at 10:51 pm
Sarah could have stopped learning ten years ago and she’d still be on a higher, smarter level that Ohaveimentionedimblack?
Susie1945 07.03.09 at 10:54 pm
wonder if anyone will ever make a list of the pretendident’s names? he has so many – to me gwb was always shrub or village idiot – but we have so many choices with oblowmegibbsieplease -
honora 07.03.09 at 10:57 pm
I do not think that any American (no, change that world) politician is as smart or as accomplished as Hillary Clinton. I think that the world would be a much better place if she were president. But, Sarah Palin is an incredible person and would be a better president than most of the men running ( in either party0.
I had a crab feast at my house tonight. (They were incredible and the fireflies put on a better show then any fireworks) 12 people, 11 of them Democrats or Democrats in exile. The women all agreed that Palin, whether or not we liked her politics was a leader. The men all dissed her as not smart enough. I, being the hostess and a PUMA with a big mouth, noted that whether or not we agreed with her politics, Palin was just as smart and as able to be president as was Huckabee or Jeb or Romney The women all agreed the men still can’t get over her women parts.
It drives me crazy.
Susie1945 07.03.09 at 10:58 pm
honora – venus envy
DancesWithPumas 07.03.09 at 10:58 pm
susie1945
http://pumapac.org/comic.html
BillieJo 07.03.09 at 10:59 pm
I wonder if Sarah has been encouraged to step aside by her party?
She mentioned that she is “…passing the ball to someone else so they can win”. I wonder if they think she could make it as nominee yet not win against the Jackass and that the Republican Party could take ‘another’ hit because of her?????
If she plans to run in 2012, I can’t understand how not finishing her term as Governor as a good thing…
Just sayin…
Casper Cat 07.03.09 at 11:00 pm
DWP!!!! High-Five…..Smack…. to YOU!!!!!!!! Post #306… You are right on!!!!!!!!!!!
DancesWithPumas 07.03.09 at 11:00 pm
noted that whether or not we agreed with her politics, Palin was just as smart and as able to be president as was Huckabee or Jeb or Romney The women all agreed the men still can’t get over her women parts.
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the testicles actually think bush2 and obush3 are smarter than palin???
Susie1945 07.03.09 at 11:01 pm
Damm Dances – I forgot that we already did that – guess that was a senior moment – we sure have some damm smart snarky PUMAs – lol
DancesWithPumas 07.03.09 at 11:01 pm
CC
DancesWithPumas 07.03.09 at 11:02 pm
susie, those represent maybe 1/1000th of the total. I haven’t been keeping up.
Juliette 07.03.09 at 11:12 pm
Dances #284
Yes I know they were sentenced to hard labor. But I havn’t heard much about them since then. Is anybody even trying to help these women?
FLBarbara 07.03.09 at 11:13 pm
Today the DNC and the MSM women haters are attacking Sarah Palin rather than the things that should be attacked, the Obama legislation garbage that is being hurled at us daily.
Today my visa to Somalia was denied by a government that believes in Sharia Law and that women are the scum of the earth, and the current POTUS bows down to and the current FLOTUS ignores. As well as most womens groups.
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Tonight I am in yet another ER room with yet another woman who has the shit beat out her for no other reason than he was pissed off AGAIN.
And the media is back to talking about Michael Jackson.
And I do not have a clue on how to stop this insanity.
DancesWithPumas 07.03.09 at 11:14 pm
317
No doubt.
I know HRC made a statement about ithem, and I doubt her sister (for whom I have great admiration) will let it go.
LJSNAustin 07.03.09 at 11:14 pm
Juliette #243, I am very much aware of who Lynn Forester de Rothschild is and her support of both Hillary and Sarah during the primary and the general. My question was a sincere one. I was keeping up with her at every opportunity, but it seemed she completely dropped off the radar after November. Considering the fact that she founded “Together4Us”, I thought she would have remained a bit more in the spotlight than she has. That’s all.
DancesWithPumas 07.03.09 at 11:15 pm
I know one way, Barbara, but it is illegal.
FLBarbara 07.03.09 at 11:21 pm
Dances,
If I only could.If I only could.
murphy 07.03.09 at 11:23 pm
Unhinged posted,
take it upstairs!
Juliette 07.03.09 at 11:25 pm
If Hillary Clinton had stayed in the Senate and fought against Obama’s enslavement policies she would have my full support in 2012 if she decided to run against him. Instead she made the tradgic mistake of playing party politics and supporting Obama against a man for which she and her husband have displayed nothing but great respect and admiration in the past. I just can’t support those kind of party politics and I don’t see any posibility of her making a sucessful run against Obama. The republicans will just keep hammering at the fact that she and Bill campaigned for The One.
Sure Hillary Clinton is an intellectual and a seasoned professional public servant. I will never forget what she has done throught out her life for children and the Military, and especially for women. Believe me I still defend her against those who try to minimize her achievements. But I really think that she will for ever be viewed as part of the Obama administration from now on.
I don’t see any chance for her to live it down.
I hope Sarah Palin will run as an independent. I think America will be completely ready for her in 2012.
honora 07.03.09 at 11:27 pm
Danceswithfireflies- (313), yes!!! Incredible as it was to me, these men honestly believe that she is unworthy to run for the office of president. The truth is that it is ok for any man to run, if he is unqualified the the belief is he will fail. But a woman can only run, if she is a combination or Mother Theresa , Diana, Eleanor Roosevelt, Madame Curie, and Oprah combined. The perfect woman candidate can run, but we can not actually expect her to win, I mean what are the odds of a person actually winning. Men seem unable to understand that a women that runs is , because of the system, already light years ahead of any man running.
DancesWithPumas 07.03.09 at 11:35 pm
CasperCat
didn’t want to take this upstairs. I think this is something you might enjoy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMH0bHeiRNg&feature=related
DancesWithPumas 07.03.09 at 11:37 pm
Men seem unable to understand that a women that runs is , because of the system, already light years ahead of any man running.
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10000000% agreement. They can’t admit that because where would that fact leave their egos?
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