Saturday Open Thread

The cybersecurity effort, Mr. Obama said at the White House last month, “will not — I repeat, will not — include monitoring private sector networks or Internet traffic.”

—————————-He is the biggest fuckung liar in the world!!

murphy
you didn’t tell me you were going to post that pic.
really glad i didn’t hang my undies out there with the rest of the wash..

June 13, 2009
Obama’s Issues Crumbling
By LIttle Dick Morris

At last, there is convincing evidence that Obama’s poll numbers may be descending to earth. While his approval remains high – and his personal favorability is even higher – the underlying numbers suggest that a decline may be in the offing. Even as he stands on his pedestal, the numbers under his feet are crumbling.

According to a Rasmussen poll, more voters now trust Republicans more than Democrats to handle the economy, by a margin of 45-39. Scott Rasmussen notes that “this is the first time in over two years of polling that the GOP has held the advantage on this issue.” Last month, he had the Democrats holding a one-point lead, but they lost it in June’s polling.

And the Democratic leads over Republicans on their core issues are also dropping. Particularly interesting is the Democratic decline over healthcare, from an 18-point lead in May to only 10 points now.

A Gallup poll also confirms that the president’s personal ratings are high, but the underlying data less so. While 67 percent of voters give Obama personal favorable ratings and 61 percent approve of his job performance (Rasmussen has his job approval lower, at 55 percent), they give him much lower ratings on specific issues.

Gallup shows Obama getting only 55 percent approval on his handling of the economy (down from 59 percent in February) and finds that only 45 percent approve of his handling of federal spending while 46 percent approve of his treatment of the budget deficit.

As it becomes clearer that the deficit caused by spending has landed us in a new economic crisis, entirely of Obama’s own making, his popularity and job performance are likely to drop as well.

more:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2009/06/13/obamas_issues_crumbling.html

But But Islam is our friend so says ObowtoIslam.
Maybe that is why he only praises Islam he knows the punishment for speaking against Islam.

I need help with a protest sign for David Letterman any suggestions? Please

PS any Pumas who show up the drinks are on me…for real

right FL

and I’m tired of being told that I must “respect Islam” when clearly Islam respects only itself.

The O administration is furious about Mousavi’s loss in the Iran election.

They were hoping to use the pretend “Reform Candidate” to further shove Islam down America’s throat.

The indoctrination of public schoolchildren in Kansas is a disgrace.

The DOJ making a statement that they will give favor Islam.

We are going back to the Dark Ages..be afraid, women.
In most Islamic countries women are completely without power.

WOW amazing that the ObowtoIslam administration actually believed the Islam is our friend speech would determine “different” results in the Iranian election.

The Power of the Teleprompter!! LOL
Idiots.

The Letterman Prowl. It’s working!

New York State Assembly Minority Leader Brian Kolb, a Republican, is calling on the CEO of CBS to fire David Letterman for crude comments he made about Sarah Palin and her daughter.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,526055,00.html

I love your graphic LOL !!

Prowls done yesterday and today. Quick question, are you all filing FCC complaints everyday or just the one on the 11th?

Thanks Aniem good suggestions

I was talking to a friend last night and he reminded me of the kidnapping attempt made against Lettermans son Harry a while back.

So should he not understand as a parent OUR need to protect our children from the evil that exists in the world.

For him to suggest a girl be a victim of a sexual attack is no different then his son being a victim of a kidnapping attack.

Both are Real serious crimes.

love your pic, swannie

dances, good idea
maybe e. hasslebush will bust a rant for us.

Does ACORN have a base in Iran?

Do they Caucus?

Is Donna Brazile there talking about the Rules?

Do they have Super delegates who take bribes?

Are they bussing voters from the desert into the city?

If so…it is not Fraud.
That was not considered Fraud here so it shouldn’t be Fraud in Iran..

What,s good for the US is good for Iran.
Fair is Fair. LoL

Civil Liberties and the Winds of ‘Change’

http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2009/06/11/civil-liberties-and-the-winds-of-change/

Good morning/afternoon everyone

HEALTHCARE – cuts for the poor and elderly?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/06/13/AR2009061301044.html

President Obama today proposed to rein in spending on federal health programs for the elderly and the poor by an additional $313 billion over the next decade, bringing his total proposed savings to nearly $950 billion — enough to cover most of the cost of sweeping health reform, a top adviser said.

In his weekly radio address, Obama proposed limiting the growth of Medicare fee-for-service payments, taking hospitals and other health providers at their word that they will reduce costs. Obama also proposed slashing subsidies to hospitals that treat uninsured patients, on the theory that very few uninsured patients will remain in the wake of reform.

Obama also suggested reducing payments to drug companies that serve Medicare recipients. Advisers declined to release details, saying the idea was still under discussion.

“These savings will come from commonsense changes,” Obama said. “For example — if more Americans are insured, we can cut payments that help hospitals treat patients without health insurance. If the drug makers pay their fair share, we can cut government spending on prescription drugs. And if doctors have incentives to provide the best care instead of more care, we can help Americans avoid the unnecessary hospital stays, treatments, and tests that drive up costs.”

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One concern is that ‘best care’ is code for ‘government bureaucrat-determined’ care.

Of course I understand the intent of hillbuzz’s line about Kellogg’s…

“Kelloggs: the company that makes cereal you eat while laughing about statutory rape!”

…but the delivery still is off the mark. As I said to no apparent effect near the top of yesterday’s Homofauxbama thread, hillbuzz’s phrasing has a common mistake, which leaves it open to a quite sickening interpretation with the exact opposite meaning of what was intended.

I’ll try again because it’s damn important.

Their mistake is in their “cereal you eat while laughing” part. It has a double meaning. It could (deliberately, obnoxiously) be read to mean you’re the one eating cereal while you, yourself, are laughing about rape. Hardly the intended effect!

Yesterday I suggested an alternative. It still looked OK to me today but I added “up” to invoke the popular “eatin’ it up” expression:

Kellogg: the company that makes a joke out of rape, and a fool out of you for eating their cereal up.

Prowl done

theamericanway

Theyre inclear on the concept. Effin’ morons.

#37 scarlet that sucks about Joy Behar replacing the Lou Dobbs repeat-that’s when I catch Lou.

Chicago Sun Times

If that’s the article I read earlier, not only do they accuse the Palin’s of DIVERTING attention away from the REAL issue – their daughter Bristol’s pregnancy – but they also accuse them of CLAIMING that the joke was about Bristol.

DRIVES ME CRAZY – THE FACT IS THAT BRISTOL WAS NOT THERE (poor research Letterman but THAT’s YOUR responsibility).

It is obviously all the Palin’s fault – I just cannot believe that people don’t get it. Do they really not get it? So many women on the talk shows/news (joke) programs defending Letterman. Furthermore, it is NOT an attack on Conservatives Hannity, it is an attack on WOMEN republican/democrat, independent, black, white, whatever, WOMEN.

Hi Alice

I think it is

http://patriotdems.wordpress.com/

Social-Psyche

I so agree we need better technology when it comes to early detection of breast cancer.

But I speak to experience when I encourage a mammogram especially for young girls.

Both of my tumours were discovered early with a Mammogram followed with a. Sonogram then a needle biopsy and then surgery.

So its a tool that can benefit early detection until something better comes along. Research as has always been the case is needed.

The point of my comment was that womens health care is always what is questioned and cut first.

Thanks for links I will get to them later. Have to run out.

Have a blessed day all..

Am I correct in assuming you mean Social-Psyche’s commment #40?

DWP in #43:
“Since Murphy was/is quoting Hillbuzz”

Was and Is indeed, because Hillbuzz’s mistake was quoted twice, with implied strong encouragement for PUMAs here to copy and use it.

DWP:
“maybe you’d have some luck going to Hillbuzz and pointing out their error.”

Damn, why can’t I have any “luck” here from you Dances? The error affects everybody at this blog not just at hillbuzz.

(I have no special contact or connection with them btw. My best guess was that quicker results would follow if Murphy herself jotted a note to them about it.)

Thanks for the tip AniEm!

Marc Rubin’s ability to nail it everyday is astounding to me- I get a daily e-mail update to this link and read him every day- I highly recommend it for your mental health:

http://www.examiner.com/x-6572-NY-Obama-Administration-Examiner~y2009m6d13-Was-Obama-calling-Clinton-a-bald-faced-liar-in-new-book-simply-projection?cid=examiner-email

FLBarbara in #52:

You know I’m with you on women’s health care being hacked, subverted, manipulated….

Thank you for mentioning sonograms. The sonogram seems to be an effective detection method.

I would put it above the mammogram but we’ll leave that finer point for another day. Meanwhile, enjoy the links and the rest of your Saturday!

FLBarbara, you said “Yeah..like those unnecessary hospital stays for Lumpectomys and mastectomies”. I don’t know if this is all over or not, nor do I know if this is currently the case or not. However, several years ago I was sitting in an outpatient facility with a friend of mine whose mother was in there having cataract surgery. I was sitting next to a lady whose mother was in the outpatient facility having a double mastectomy. I was pretty shocked to find that her mother was going to be sent home right away after having the surgery.

Thanks Social

HopePuma

They are referred to as drive by Mastectomies.

Both Lumpectomy and Mastectomy are done as an out patient. You are sent home hours later with tubes in you with directions on how to drain yourself and what warrants an ER visit.

The car ride home can sometimes warrant an ER visit. BUMPS.

Wonder how long a man would get if his balls were cut off.
Maybe a month LOL

Gotta go BBL

Why has the major focus always been on women’s “breast” cancer? Is it because of the “aesthetic” aspect, as it relates to male preferences, or do the consequences and numbers outweigh uterine cancer?

FLBarbara in #64:

You wuz throwin’ the balls, I wuz talking heads. LOL.

Murphy
email many email (DM)

Dakinikat is covering the Guantanamo – Bermuda triangle which I mentioned last night. ObaUSA snubs Britain again…

http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2009/06/13/shorting-bermuda/
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8098341.stm

In less than 4 months, we have not only snubbed the UK four times in some fashion, we have now left them completely out of a negotiation that directly impacts them can only be characterized as steps in a remake of our special relation. This is especially true in light of the recent protocol gaffes…
Now, the BBC reports that the US ‘kept Guantanamo deal from UK’. We have now gone from a series of protocol and diplomatic blunders and missteps to something that, I’m sure, will be seen by many in Parliament as a re-working of the Anglo-American Alliance.

It is shocking (or should be except it is Obama so I am not all that shocked) that he has just gone and dumped some Guantanamo detainess on British Overseas Terroritory without telling the British Government… what’s next?

Murohy in #67:
how’s that whole “America is one of the largest muslim countries in the world” baloney going for you President Jackass?

Hmm, I just remembered two things about baloney.

1. Bologna’s ingredient list usually includes pork, which is haram (unclean and forbidden).

2. David Letterman raved for years about how much he loved his mom’s Fried Baloney Sandwiches.

Both kinds of baloney will go *back* down their throats just fine if we push hard enough. It’s all theirs. Let ‘em take ownership.

They are not happy about it either Social.

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Bermuda MP: “Outrage” and “National Crisis” Sparked by Release of Gitmo Detainees

Shawn Crockwell, a member of Bermuda’s parliament and shadow minister for immigration, says that the decision to accept four Uighur detainees from the detention facility at Guantanamo Bay has “created a national crisis for the island of Bermuda.”

“People are outraged in this country,” says Crockwell. “I’ve never seen the people in this country get so exercised so quickly over an issue.”

Crockwell tells THE WEEKLY STANDARD that Bermudians are very concerned about the potential threat the Uighurs pose to the security and economy of Bermuda, and are outraged by the secretive and unilateral manner in which Bermuda premier Dr. Ewart Brown decided to accept the detainees.

“There’s a great deal of anxiety right now,” says Crockwell. “We have not received any information at all in terms of who these individuals are.”

More on the Iran riots with video

Thanks, Murphy.
((((((Pumas)))))

Murphy in #81:

{{{{Pumas}}}}

I recall a book titled Cancer, Touch Me Not, or Noli Me Tangere (different book from the late 19th-century novel by that Latin phrase). We all may wish it in our lifetimes, or our childrens’, but nobody here has been untouched by cancer.

If my anger took me down the wrong channel and I’ve stepped on any toes wrt the politics and profits of cancer, I am so sorry.

Oh, forgot secondly, is the picture at the top of the thread Italy and if so which town/city?

Heard on fox news two anchors discussing the divorce settlement of the Mel Gibsons
Mrs will get half of the money. They were married 28 years and have children.

The female anchor says “I hate to there that” male anchor What?? and looks shocked. She goes on to explain women should not get half of a mans money. especially when they haven’t worked and made any contributions especially wealthy women who hire others to cook and clean for them. Paraphrasing.

Her name is Julie I .can’t find her last name. anyone know it? She is on now.

I want to write an email because it is just another woman who doesn’t get it.

If the male anchor said this he would be hearing about it and so should she.

AniEm in #87:

Re, veiled threats *mis*interpreted as paranoia, when I was a kid I was sexually harrassed (propositioned) by a teacher who used the same sort of “bad joke, sorry, only kidding” lame excuse, just because I rejected him/it. If I had accepted it, he would have been deadly serious. His plan from the get-go was to play it both ways, with a convenient out.

Dances,

Yes there are a lot of kids and a 28 year marriage to MEL lol

I can not believe this woman said that. She was really angry and the guy was looking at her like she was nuts.

FLBarbara 06.13.09 at 7:24 pm
Heard on fox news two anchors discussing the divorce settlement of the Mel Gibsons
Mrs will get half of the money. They were married 28 years and have children.
The female anchor says “I hate to there that” male anchor What?? and looks shocked. She goes on to explain women should not get half of a mans money.

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OMG! It is not a man’s money! It is marital money. Plus, she probably won’t get half since he has been hiding as much as he can. That is what wealthy men do and they are good at it.

Sorry should read

Olbermann is a twisted, sick mysogynist posing as a liberal who hates both Hillary and Sarah Palin with a strange thinly veiled passion.

Goofsmom

Yes that’s her.
Just went looking for her name that is it Julie Bandaras.

Thanks scarlet

Sent email to Julie

I am shocked hearing Julie say ” she hates when that happens” because Mrs. Mel Gibson will get half of the couples money.
Julie went on to explain women do not deserve the “man’s money” if they have not contributed especially if the woman was wealthy and hired people to cook and clean for her.

Shocking. In the case of the Gibson they where married 28 years and have many children together.

Martial assets are just that. His and Hers. It’s not his or Hers it’s Theirs they divide their money in a divorce settlement..

Julie, you owe women everywhere an apology.
It was a sexist comment made more shocking that it came from a woman.

Sincerely,
Barbara

Social Psyche #90

I am so sorry about your experience. I hope that teacher has been tormented every single day of his deranged and perverted life.

Blue #93

Absolutely Olbermann is twisted, disturbed and sociopathic, but I’m getting a different reading on Letterman now. I think he’s more than a buffoon. His jokes are reviewed and vetted and he has a high degree of intelligence. He knew exactly what he was doing.

If we invited a thousand ChiComs to run the country, I don’t think the propaganda could be as noxious as what we’ve been subjected to from the MSM.

I’m just referencing PART of the article. Pardon me if it has already been posted.

Could Palin flap be Letterman’s Hugh Grant?
By DAVID BAUDER, AP Television Writer Sat Jun 13, 10:32 AM PDT

Sarah Palin would no doubt be horrified by the idea, but there’s a chance she could become the same boon to David Letterman’s career that Hugh Grant was to Jay Leno’s.

Grant’s 1995 appearance on NBC’s “Tonight” show after a prostitution arrest, where Leno famously asked “what were you thinking?,” was seen in retrospect as a turning point in the late-night race. It drew a huge audience and propelled Leno to the top of the ratings, a spot he would not relinquish.

Letterman did not court last week’s battle with Palin, who called him “perverted” for making a joke about her daughter getting “knocked up” by New York Yankee Alex Rodriguez, and he said in retrospect the remark was in poor taste.

Palin rebuffed his invitations to appear on the show, but that might not matter. The story had the effect of turning the attention to Letterman at a critical time, during the second week of his new competition with Leno’s replacement, Conan O’Brien.

“It will be interesting to see if that can be maintained or whether it is one of those temporary things,” said Robert Thompson, director of the Center for the Study of Popular Television at Syracuse University.

The final numbers won’t be out until later in the week, but there’s a strong chance that Letterman could average more viewers than the “Tonight” show in the second week of O’Brien’s new 11:35 p.m. job. That hasn’t happened since 2005, and the timing is significant: some of Leno’s old fans may be more amenable to searching for a new late-night habit during the transition period

AniEm #23

Joy Behar is a liberal cliche.

Goofs! Can you believe it!

Juliette #106

Yea, and much too stupid to ever recognize that. What was that book about the dumbing down of America?

In addition to the constant verbal abuse on Sarah Palin and her family, there were also somewhere in the range of 14 bogus ethics chargers filed against Palin, after McCain chose her as his running mate. The MSM had a field day with most of these charges, but now (June 6 ) that Sarah Palin has been cleared of the last of these charges, making her her clear of all these politically motivated charges, the MSM remains silent.

Palin’s legal fees reached the sum of $500,000 to defend herself of the crime of being a woman. In addition to the multiple lies that were reported on CNN and MSNBC about Palin, these ethics charges and continued character attacks are part of a collaborative effort to bring down a sucessful woman in politics.
I don’t belive that the nation has ever witnessed such urgency in the collective slap-down of a possible future contender for the office of POTUS.
She is a strong and courageous woman for holding up under this oppression. I salute her and her family and will continue to defend them against all future mindless attacks from the members of the Obama media.

The firedavid letterman site above has interesting sponsor information.
Can anyone confirm the following?

“Embassy Suites
UPDATE: Ms. Ray states the company has pulled their ads from CBS.com websites”

Scarlet

LMAO that you suggested Julie go to work for Letterman.
Very good.

(((TLCPuma)))

Good to see you…

WOMEN LIKE PIECES OF FURNITURE IN MUSLIM COUNTRIES GADDAFI

(ANSA) – Rome, June 12 – Women in Muslim countries are
no better off than a piece of furniture that can be discarded
at will, Libyan leader Moammar Gaddafi told an audience of
Italian women on Friday.
“In Arab and Muslim countries women are like pieces of
furniture that can be discarded at will and no one will ask
for explanations,“ Gaddafi said in his address to 1,000
women from all walks of Italian life and led by Equal Rights
Minister Mara Carfagna.
The Libyan leader, who is on the last day of a
three-day visit to Italy, said “the world needs a female
revolution that will emerge from a cultural revolution“.
He urged the audience to read 20th century writer
Matilde Serao, saying she was “one of the really great
Italian women who left us more than 40 books“.
Serao (1856 – 1927) was a Greek-born Italian journalist
and novelist who founded. She was the founder and editor of
two newspapers Il Mattino, which is still one of the most
widely read dailies in southern Italy.
Gaddafi also listed Tunisian-born Italian actress
Claudia Cardinale as another example of inspiring women.
He urged Italians to return to family values, saying
that if the current trend of opting for fewer children
continues the Italian family might disappear by 2050.
He then invited Italian women to visit his country,
saying: “you will always be welcomed“.

oops heres the link:

http://www.lifeinitaly.com/node/6113

Rancho,

Try this link… Appears to be same, please check out….

http://greenville.metromix.com/home/article/what-was-she-thinking/1250517/content

Yep! Same AP writer Goofs, but different avenue.

http://greenville.metromix.com/home/article/what-was-she-thinking/1250517/content
Re . . What was Palin thinking, to challenge Letterman.
Note last sentence!

“Palin may have inadvertently given Letterman a platform at a time when it is most valuable; the next few weeks will show how he’s been able to use it.

(((((Sunshinelvr))))))

Yes, it is great to see our earlier Pumas popping up on the threads….

(((((((Pumas)))))))

Juliette, #117

I think most of the people who affiliated with PUMA have a similar experience. I might not agree with every post but this blog is like a remote outpost of truthfulness among a media perverted and relentless about lying. I can’t blame your family members or any of my family members or friends who can’t see what’s going on here. The brainwashing techniques have been thorough and are much more powerful than the average citizen would ever suspect. Most people (including me) operate under the assumption that the government is somewhat corrupt but more or less truthful, and that the media is edgy, but more or less decent for the most part. Now I know better. We can keep fanning our little ember of truth and feel justified in knowing we did our part. I think the brutality of Letterman has caught fire and people are beginning to wake up.

Casper Cat 06.13.09 at 10:02 pm
kDWP… If you are here you have action mail…. will be at the command post….
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aye, aye, Captain!

OOPS!!!!!! ‘kDWP’ DWP…. Thanks for your reply….. Command post will be standing down to feed the dogs….

Hey, Rancho…. YES!!!!!!!!! I did!! you are too much….. I had a wonderful time with both of you…. Sorry, I did most of the talking… Hope you had a great day and evening yesterday….

hi Pumas. I’ve been out all day.

prowl done

Hi sunshinelvr

Have a great weekend. Hope it’s sunny for you.

MK . . See my post #104
and for the complete article
http://greenville.metromix.com/home/article/what-was-she-thinking/1250517/content (thank you goofs!)

Can you believe! Wouldn’t put it past him!

nap=nab

#142 Naturaly They will try spin this as a victory for Letterscum .
However loss of advertizers will trump all else .

Middle age Female #131

Since you are staying at Embassy Suites, why not call their costumer service and ask if they pulled their ads from CBS Late Show? At best they tell you yes and you can express your gratitude. At the least you can use it as a barganing tool.

Capser
Have a Reuben for me… dark rye. Thanks.

Dances, practicing for a little “candle blowing soon?”

LOL Rancho!
…and, there’s nothing “little” about this one…
it’s surreal in some ways!

Prowl done.

No lie! Blowing done!

Gotta go. Nite all.

Hiya Rancho! Okay whatever you say it will be taken care of. Thanks.

Yes we had lunch with Casper again. Same place – it was fun as always when Casper’s around.

Goodnight Rancho.

Missed you again, Juliette-you are a night owl!
Sono Siciliana.

Glad your Italian relatives are “breeders”, as I’m sure you know the birth rate is very low for non-Muslims.

Muslim clerics in Italy have been telling women for years to bear as many
sons as they can, for Jihad.