Give me an ever-lovin’ break, will ya obama?
If it’s true that we are not at war with Islam, I have to ask:
WHY THE HELL NOT!??
Islam is sure as hell at war with us.
“The men were arrested in an elaborate sting operation at around 9 p.m. on Wednesday after planting what they believed to be bombs in cars outside the Riverdale Temple, a Reform synagogue, and the nearby Riverdale Jewish Center, an Orthodox synagogue.
The men did not know that the bombs, obtained with the help of an informant for the Federal Bureau of Investigation, were fake.
-snip-
The four men arrested are all Muslim, a law enforcement official said. Mr. Cromitie, whose parents had lived in Afghanistan before his birth, had told the informant that he was upset about the war in Afghanistan and that that he wanted to do “something to America.” Mr. Cromitie stated “the best target” — the World Trade Center — “was hit already,” according to the complaint.
Mr. Kelly said: “They stated that they wanted to commit jihad. They were disturbed about what was happening in Afghanistan and Pakistan, that Muslims were being killed. They were making statements that Jews were killed in this attack and that would be all right — that sort of thing.”
Well the New York Times can choose to use the headline “Police Say Terror Suspects Acted Alone,” and use their old names instead of their new ones : Abdul, Daoud, Hamsa, and Amin in order to keep us all singing the One World Happy Song, but the facts are there for anyone who can read:
“They wanted to commit jihad. They were disturbed about what was happening in Afghanistan and Pakistan, that Muslims were being killed.”
and
“Authorities concluded that the suspects wanted to detonate a car loaded with C-4 plastic explosives outside a temple in the Bronx. They also planned to use Stinger missiles to shoot down military planes at the New York Air National Guard Base at Stewart Airport in Newburgh, the complaint alleged.”
And via persephone, we have more evidence that trying to draw a distinction between islam and terrorism is a fool’s errand. The United States may not WANT to be at war with Islam. We may WISH that a critical mass of peace-loving Muslim countries and islamic leaders and people would make it reasonable to draw that distinction, to make it plausible for our foreign policy to differentiate between islam and islamicists — But THEY do not.
We may not WANT a war with Islam, but we HAVE a war with Islam, because Islam is at war with us.
I want a president who is not a coward. A leader who will stand up in front of the world and say, “I don’t hate Islam. My father was a muslim. But I am the president of the United States and my message to Islamic countries and to muslims everywhere is clear: If you, your governments, or your leaders wage war on us, we will retaliate in every place and in every way we can until you understand that the forces of your religious fundamentalism will not be allowed to threaten democracy, freedom, and peace in the United States.”
But we don’t have a brave leader. We have a coward — a man who reads the nuanced words of someone else off a teleprompter and whose only strategy for winning is to play all sides against each other while remaining above the fray so that he is always the last man standing.
barack obama: the only person who looks bad compared to Dick freakin’ Cheney. Hey President Jackass! Heckuva job you’re doin’ at rehabilitating the legacy of George W. Bush and Darth Vader Dick Cheney!
Today’s Rundown of Why Islam Sucks (as if the above were not enough for one day)
- Muslim dentist insists patients obey Islamic dress codes: Omer Butt, 32, is a dentist at the Unsworth Smile Clinic, in Bury, Lancashire, a clinic funded by taxpayers via the National Health Service, and also the brother of the notorious Hassan Butt, former spokesman of “Al-Muhajiroun.” Butt posted put a sign in his waiting room informing women under his care – Muslim and non-Muslim alike – that they must wear a hijab or find another dentist, while men had to remove any gold jewelry. Tom Kelly in the Daily Mail notes that Butt insisted on these rules to the point of providing hijabs and abandoning at least two patients in pain when they refused his terms. After patients complained, the General Dental Council got involved.
- Dutch Muslims want sex-separated hospital rooms: Muslim organizations in the Dutch town of Breda are demanding that men and women at Amphia Hospital not be roomed together. “Many Muslim women don’t think it’s nice based on religious conviction to have a half-naked man in the bed next to them,” says a spokesman for the Immigrant Council and the Aarahman mosque. Sex-separate rooms were usual in Dutch hospitals until recently but coed rooms are now the rule.
- Aborting Girl Fetuses: In a recent case in Sweden a woman twice aborted her baby after finding out the fetus was a girl, reports Svenska Dagbladet. The woman, who had previously given birth to several daughters, asked for an amniotic fluid check, saying she was worried and wanted to establish the sex of the fetus. After finding out it was a girl, she aborted the pregnancy immediately. She soon afterward got pregnant again, and again aborted the fetus once she discovered it was a girl. The case caused strong reactions from doctors and nurses who want to know whether they’re obligated to reveal the sex of the fetus. A senior official in the industry says that there was no medical reason for the abortion, but that the nurse went ahead with the amniotic fluid check. “They’ve experienced having been forced into a corner and contributing to an abortion on the grounds that the fetus had the ‘wrong’ sex,” the official says. Doctors and nurses are now demanding guidelines on how they should proceed with such cases. In a previous case, a man was sentenced to a fine of 4,000 Swedish kroner for threatening to put a pistol to a doctor’s head if she didn’t tell him the fetus’ sex, according to Svenska Dagbladet.
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DancesWithPumas 05.21.09 at 11:21 am
(Warning: 10 pages too long. May be hazardous to your health.)
Text of oblowhard’s 5/21 speechifying:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/21/us/politics/21obama.text.html?_r=1
mick 05.21.09 at 11:25 am
Whoa! Cheney slamming Dear Leader.
mick 05.21.09 at 11:29 am
Text of Cheney speech -
http://www.weeklystandard.com/weblogs/TWSFP/2009/05/text_of_cheneys_aei_speech.asp
persephone 05.21.09 at 11:31 am
I am the president of the United States and my message to Islamic countries and to muslims everywhere is clear: If you, your governments, or your leaders wage war on us, we will retaliate in every place and in every way we can until you understand that the forces of your religious fundamentalism will not be allowed to threaten democracy, freedom, and peace in the United States.”
I think you are confusing Obama with McCain
persephone 05.21.09 at 11:32 am
ps mail for murphy
murphy 05.21.09 at 11:38 am
I was trying to channel Madam Secretary actually persephone,
Seriously though, this schizo approach to the War on Terror puts us at greater risk
Trying to be cosmopolitan and “tolerant” in our approach is DANGEROUS.
Like I said the other say, it would be like trying to pretend we were at war with the Nazis and not the Germans during WWII. Or with racists during the civil war and not the whole South.
Were there good German people who were killed in their houses by American bombs in Dresden? YES! There were little children and babies killed by our bombs.
War is horrible enough — and part of the deterring HORROR of war is being honest about when you are fighting it. We don’t get a “good citizen of the world” award for pretending to not be at war with islam at the same time that our bombs are dropping on Afghan villages.
schizo jackass loser.
HP Boston 05.21.09 at 11:40 am
Biden was right… we do not like what he is doing (nothing) and we despise what O’Coward is doing and not doing.
Islam sucks, and Islam is an uncivilized bunch of lunatics and O’Coward has put America in more grave danger than ever.
What has happened to the House and the Congress ARE THEY REALLY THIS STUPID?? ARE THEY OBAMA FINATICS?? ARE THEY ALL GREEDY LYING SACKS OF SHIT???
Are they all COWARDLY UNAMERICAN ISLAMIST!! WHY are the real Democrats and Republicans that live here in America killing us, WHY?
BigCatLover 05.21.09 at 11:40 am
I think I hate the democatic party. They foisted Barack Obama on us and now I’m sitting here listening to Dick Cheney’s side of the story and I despise him. I hate being in this position.
murphy 05.21.09 at 11:42 am
uh-oh.
“Confidential sources close to San Francisco City Hall told Towleroad’s Corey Johnson that the California Supreme Court was prepared to release its opinion on Proposition 8 tomorrow, but decided to delay the ruling after a call from Mayor Gavin Newsom…
As mentioned earlier, a ruling Thursday would have fallen on the 30th anniversary of the San Francisco riots, which were set off when the court handed down the most lenient decision possible (voluntary manslaughter) against Dan White for the murders of supervisor Harvey Milk and Mayor George Moscone. The ensuing riots in San Francisco on May 21, 1979 caused hundreds of thousands of dollars in damage.”
this probably means the court upheld Prop Hate.
http://thewiddershins.wordpress.com/2009/05/21/morning-widdershins-heartbreaking/
murphy 05.21.09 at 11:45 am
same here BCL.
obama is actually making w and cheney look good in comparison — not good exactly, but dare I say, more mature and honest? cheney is, was, and always will be a hawk. if he could get away with it he’d be one of those guys with a “Kill Them All and Take Their Oil” bumper stickers on his pick-up truck.
which i despise, but at least it’s honest!
BigCatLover 05.21.09 at 11:51 am
Cheney pointed out that Obama says that tortue is terrible but has reserved the right for himself to use it.
scarlet 05.21.09 at 11:51 am
AMERICAN DEATH SQUAD
Obama inherits Cheney’s army of assassins – and promotes their commander (McChrystal)
by Justin Raimondo, May 20, 2009
The Dear Leader’s in the White House, and it’s time to move on, right? Oh wait…
It turns out the commander of this international order of assassins has just been appointed by Defense Secretary Robert Gates to head of U.S. forces in Afghanistan.
The dark side includes McChrystal’s overseeing of Camp Nama, a detainee center outside of Baghdad (since renamed and relocated) notorious for its brutality. The very same administration that is up on its high horse about forbidding torture has just elevated one of the chief torturers to direct Obama’s war in Afghanistan. It is hardly inconceivable that what we saw at Camp Nama – beatings, degradation of prisoners, and outright, cold-blooded murder – is going to be replicated on a nationwide scale.
That’s what they call “fresh thinking” over at Obama’s Pentagon.
The response to all this – or, rather, the non-response – indicates to me that torture is not really the issue, as far as the Obamaites and their amen corner in the media are concerned, it’s who’s doing the torturing. If Bush and Cheney ordered it, it’s reprehensible and might even be a war crime. If, however, a known torture-enabler is elevated by Obama’s secretary of defense to the position of commander of our armed forces in Afghanistan – well, then, that’s a far different matter.
With the appointment, and likely confirmation, of McChrystal, it is clear that the “change” we were promised by Obama is just a change of faces: the policies, at least on the foreign policy front, are remarkably similar. Indeed, the Obamaites may prove to be even more brutal and arrogant than their immediate predecessors, and they’ll get away with it far longer than the Bushies did. That’s because the media is in the tank for Obama…
More at:
http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2009/05/19/american-death-squad/
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Obama = Bush 111
scarlet 05.21.09 at 11:52 am
Patti Blagojevich Officially Replacing Husband On Reality Show In Costa Rican Jungle
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/05/21/patti-blagojevich-officia_n_206254.html
mick 05.21.09 at 11:53 am
“I believe this information will confirm the value of interrogations – and I am not alone. President Obama’s own Director of National Intelligence, Admiral Blair, has put it this way: “High value information came from interrogations in which those methods were used and provided a deeper understanding of the al-Qaeda organization that was attacking this country.” End quote. Admiral Blair put that conclusion in writing, only to see it mysteriously deleted in a later version released by the administration – the missing 26 words that tell an inconvenient truth.” ~ Cheney 5/21/09 speech.
WHOA!
HP Boston 05.21.09 at 11:55 am
BigCatLover 05.21.09 at 11:40 am
I think I hate the Democratic party. They foisted Barack Obama on us and now I’m sitting here listening to Dick Cheney’s side of the story and I despise him. I hate being in this position.
———————-You read my mind!
Although I can not abide Cranky so therefore I will not “listen”
to him a brief written synopsis will suffice.
scarlet 05.21.09 at 11:59 am
LEGISLATION
Medical Rights Act of 2009
The legislation bans government interference into the doctor-patient relationship by protecting the right of Americans to get the care they need when they need it.
More at 411 on the 111 pumapac forum:
http://pumapac.org/forums/411-on-the-111/ Post 178
BigCatLover 05.21.09 at 11:59 am
HP Boston
Cheney’s speech was too long to do a brief synopsis, so see comment #3 for the text.
BigCatLover 05.21.09 at 12:03 pm
Oh by the way, Cheney was almost charming today even cracking a joke at the beginning. The doom and gloom intonation was gone. He must have been pretty effective because Bob Beckel is going ballistic on Fox tv. He’s so mad he’s huffing and puffing.
BillieJo 05.21.09 at 12:03 pm
Murph-
I want a president who is not a coward. A leader who will stand up in front of the world and say, “I don’t hate Islam. My father was a muslim. But I am the president of the United States and my message to Islamic countries and to muslims everywhere is clear: If you, your governments, or your leaders wage war on us, we will retaliate in every place and in every way we can until you understand that the forces of your religious fundamentalism will not be allowed to threaten democracy, freedom, and peace in the United States.”
But we don’t have a brave leader. We have a coward — a man who reads the nuanced words of someone else off a teleprompter and whose only strategy for winning is to play all sides against each other while remaining above the fray so that he is always the last man standing.
barack obama: the only person who looks bad compared to Dick freakin’ Cheney. Hey President Jackass! Heckuva job you’re doin’ at rehabilitating the legacy of George W. Bush and Darth Vader Dick Cheney!
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Yup Murph, you want what we all wanted and voted for in a President, but we got the boobie prize instead. The dancing puppet, the one who’s mouth moves when you pull the string in his back and who only reads the words of someone else on his teleprompter. The jackass doesn’t want to change anything, that’s the joke. He just wanted to ‘win’ the contest and dress up for the world, fly around on Air Force One and party like it’s 1999.
Hillary was the other candidate, the little work horse that never stops working for her country. The one that wouldn’t buy into the bs of the DNC and Nasty. The one that is the real brains of what is left of the Democratic Party. She is the One! He never was, and he never will be.
He couldn’t get his shit together to pick out and give his children a dog, for how long? And who actually thinks this puppet can some day turn into a REAL MAN………….not me. He should have been elected to read out loud to the public, that’s all he is good at.
Madam President Hillary Rodham Clinton, you are the only Democrat I still believe in.
mick 05.21.09 at 12:04 pm
LOL. Bob Beckel’s ‘outrage’ over Cheney speech … pathetic.
BillieJo 05.21.09 at 12:08 pm
BigCatLover 05.21.09 at 12:03 pm
Oh by the way, Cheney was almost charming today even cracking a joke at the beginning. The doom and gloom intonation was gone. He must have been pretty effective because Bob Beckel is going ballistic on Fox tv. He’s so mad he’s huffing and puffing.
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I am in the Twilight Zone when I want to hear Cheney’s speech, that now Darth Vader has become the voice of reason. Is Cheney pulling the jackass’ strings like he did for Bush?
2PumaSisters 05.21.09 at 12:10 pm
Good morning Murphy and all Pumas,
I’m here!!! Later……have to eat.
Bye!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
FLBarbara 05.21.09 at 12:13 pm
Very powerful photo with the words of our POTUS. This should be a poster or a political ad.
Very powerful post Murphy.Islam is the enemy of my country and the enemy of my gender.
How sad, that abortion, the right of choice women fought for is being used as a tool to exterminate women.
So Islam has found a tool that can now elminate us at whim and women are being forced to abort their daughters.
How very sad.
Susie1945 05.21.09 at 12:21 pm
Good morning PUMAS – could not listen to GWB for 8 years & absolutely cannot listen to the fraud in chief – makes me nausous – have to turn him off and watch the chefs on the food network cook – at least they do something constructive & helpful – I did not and do not like Dick Cheney but at least I can listen to him talk without feeling like throwing up – neverf thought I would be supporting a repub but his speech at least made sense & was coherent – watched old bob beckel go castatrophic on fox & was hoping that his heart didn’t stop – what a bunch of fuckin’ hypocrites the dems have turned out to be – I remember 9-11 and it was just fuckin’ scary even here in flyover land – we have the Mall of America and they were speculating that that was a target – no planes in the sky – it was damm scary whether dem or repub but now it seems as tho the dems have used selective memory to say or imply that it wasn’t that bad – 20-20 is wonderful isn’t it????
Also, fox news is really making me angry now too with the ACORN shit – why didn’t they follow up with us when we were bombarding them with faxes & emails and blog comments about ACORN when, if they had investigated and followed up on our info, might have acctually made a possible difference in the election outcome? Hypocrites again, anyone????
Great article up top – Murphy – still working on the logo thingy
mick 05.21.09 at 12:22 pm
BigCatLover #18
“He must have been pretty effective because Bob Beckel is going ballistic on Fox tv. He’s so mad he’s huffing and puffing.”
Lol. Freakin’ smoke was coming out of Beckel’s ears …. Oblahblah and company can bash Bush/Cheney all day long but how DARE Cheney criticize Dear Leader!!!
BillieJo 05.21.09 at 12:24 pm
Another thing that ticks me off lately is now that I watch Fox over the other networks that only praise the jackass, they were talking about the California election the other day like the vote against Arnold and the legislature was the prime opportunity for Republican’s to jump in and make the best of that situation by taking that momentum, as if it were their tea party and build the Republican base back.
WTF……..get a clue Republicans, drop the pro-life, born again, gun banging, holier than thou, back stabbing, wasteful spending, environmental hating, drill in California, health care crushing, fucked up policies and maybe you might win over some Democrats. Until then, you are kidding yourselves. We may hate the current corruption of the Democratic Party, but we sure as Hell don’t think you are any better. Corruption and nitwits on both sides, throw the damn bums out!!!
One more thing, they had a prominent Calif. legislator, AA Democrat that wanted to say the reason the special election blew up in their faces is because the voters didn’t really understand what was going on!!!!!!!!
If I would have owned a gun, I would have blown up my tv.
How arrogant and stupid can one person be, stupid enough to have made sure she will never get another raise in the Calif congress.
I am so damn tired of stupidity.
Sorry for the rant.
HP Boston 05.21.09 at 12:29 pm
BillieJo 05.21.09 at 12:24 pm
Its rant day BillieJo………ranting on Bo is never having to say your sorry……..
mick 05.21.09 at 12:30 pm
BillieJo #26
You need to get off the fence and tell us how you really feel …
lol.
BillieJo 05.21.09 at 12:31 pm
Susie45
Also, fox news is really making me angry now too with the ACORN shit – why didn’t they follow up with us when we were bombarding them with faxes & emails and blog comments about ACORN when, if they had investigated and followed up on our info, might have acctually made a possible difference in the election outcome? Hypocrites again, anyone????
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I’m pissed at Fox too for the same reason. I passed a lot of ACORN shit to Hannity, Greta and the jerks at fox that I don’t watch. I passed over Lynette Long’s research to them, over and over…and not a peep from them.
Fuckum, it’s too damn late to make a big deal of it after the unicorn has left the stable.
Fuckum and the elephant that rolled over on them.
Fuckum all!
Susie1945 05.21.09 at 12:31 pm
Way to go Billie Jo – my sentiments regarding the repubs is the same as yours – that’s why I’m an independent – repubs can’t change & the dems are in looneyland somewhere with the head loon leading the charge…………………..
BillieJo 05.21.09 at 12:37 pm
mick
BillieJo #26
You need to get off the fence and tell us how you really feel …
——–
I’m gettin’ close……
—-
((HP))
BillieJo 05.21.09 at 12:45 pm
Susie1945 05.21.09 at 12:31 pm
Way to go Billie Jo – my sentiments regarding the repubs is the same as yours – that’s why I’m an independent – repubs can’t change & the dems are in looneyland somewhere with the head loon leading the charge…………………..
—–
Yup Susie, I don’t want to register as an independent yet, thinking that the Dems might falsely think they still have my vote and wake up to be big freaking disappointment when I don’t show up to defend nor vote with them.
What frosted my cupcakes about the Calif. election even further, is when I found out the legislators made $117,000 a year! That’s almost 3 times what I make working full time for freakin’ obots and they think little people like me don’t freakin’ understand! Professor’s with a Ph.D. often don’t make that much.
HP Boston 05.21.09 at 12:47 pm
Or government is so fucked up…they are all run by the same machine which also runs ALL media. The robber Barron’s are back in full swing and we are just the pawns in the game, they play us like a cheap banjo.
They have us running in circles chasing our tails and they are laughing their fucking asses off…our America is now a B movie.
antifish 05.21.09 at 12:48 pm
O/T Obama interviews first SCOTUS prospect…
May 20, 2009, 6:07 pm
Obama Interviews Wood for Supreme Court Seat
By Jeff Zeleny
Choosing the Next Justice
President Obama has interviewed his first prospective Supreme Court candidate, an official confirmed on Wednesday, sitting down privately in the White House for a conversation with Judge Diane P. Wood, who was visiting Washington from Chicago.
Ms. Wood, who was appointed 14 years ago to the United States Court of Appeals in Chicago, was attending a law conference at Georgetown University on Wednesday. She declined to comment to reporters about any other stops on her trip to Washington.
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/05/20/obama-interviews-wood-for-supreme-court-seat/
mick 05.21.09 at 12:50 pm
Ruh, roh … TOTUS must be very upset. Dear Leader didn’t use him here … he calls Sec. Defense “William” Gates … idiot!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RyESrsd6CI
mick 05.21.09 at 12:52 pm
… I feel safer already.
persephone 05.21.09 at 12:55 pm
hey at least he got Hillary’s name right.
antifish 05.21.09 at 12:56 pm
And again, where’s the change???
May 20, 2009, 5:48 pm
New Business Group Forms to Promote Obama Agenda
By John Harwood
Business executives aligned with President Obama have formed a new coalition to support his agenda as Congress moves ahead with legislation on energy, health care, financial regulation and other hot-button issues.
The coalition, calling itself Business Forward, plans to announce its formation on Thursday. Organizers said the group, whose initial members include AT&T, Facebook, Hilton, IBM, Microsoft, Pfizer and Time Warner, will engage in public advocacy but will not lobby administration officials or members of Congress.
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/05/20/new-business-group-forms-to-promote-obama-agenda/
HP Boston 05.21.09 at 12:58 pm
antifish 05.21.09 at 12:48 pm
O’Coward is just dangling carrots, the rabbit is in the hat and all has been decided and not by him!
These clowns are playing us, big shell game. The lying media is being paid to keep the obots under control…..and coming back for more. A distraction a day and the robbers can play. It is no wonder they want us not to use SWINE flu for the latest distraction, sounds like the Admin, SWINE one and all!
antifish 05.21.09 at 1:00 pm
Man Charged in ’98 Bombings to Be Tried in N.Y.
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By BRIAN KNOWLTON and WILLIAM GLABERSON
Published: May 21, 2009
WASHINGTON — A suspected al-Qaeda militant accused in the deadly 1998 bombings of American embassies in Tanzania and Kenya will be tried in a civilian court in New York, making him the first Guantánamo Bay detainee to be tried in an American civilian court, the Justice Department said Thursday.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/22/us/22gitmo.html?_r=1&hp
antifish 05.21.09 at 1:07 pm
Later Terror Link Cited for 1 in 7 Freed Detainees
By ELISABETH BUMILLER
Published: May 20, 2009
WASHINGTON — An unreleased Pentagon report concludes that about one in seven of the 534 prisoners already transferred abroad from the detention center in Guantánamo Bay, Cuba, are engaged in terrorism or militant activity, according to administration officials.
snip
A Defense Department official said there was little will at the Pentagon to release the report because it had become politically radioactive under Mr. Obama.
“If we hold it, then everybody claims it’s political and you’re protecting the Obama administration,” said the official, who asked for anonymity because of the sensitivity of the situation. “And if we let it go, then everybody says you’re undermining Obama.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/21/us/politics/21gitmo.html?_r=1&hp
honora 05.21.09 at 1:09 pm
Can I agree with the Muslim women that are opposed to sharing hospital rooms with members of the opposite sex?? I hate having to share a room with a stranger of the same sex, co-ed would be really yucky.
antifish 05.21.09 at 1:12 pm
#42 honora, I agree with that. I would not want to share a hospital room with a male.
antifish 05.21.09 at 1:16 pm
Iraq Bombings Shatter Lull
By TIMOTHY WILLIAMS, CAMPBELL ROBERTSON and ATHEER KAKAN
Published: May 21, 2009
BAGHDAD — Three bombings in Iraq on Thursday killed at least 21 people and wounded more than 50 others, as American soldiers, police officers and members of American-allied Awakening Councils were targeted, police officials said. Shattering a recent lull in violence, the bombings brought to more than 60 the number of people killed in a 24-hour period.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/22/world/middleeast/22iraq.html?hp
mlhath 05.21.09 at 1:19 pm
hey antifish
completely ot, but noticed your comment about Carole King a few days ago. I absolutley love her. I have transitioned her Tapestry album from record, to 8 track to cassette to cd.
Thanks for including her.
murphy 05.21.09 at 1:19 pm
neither would I honora. but that doesnt excuse their reasoning or their methods.
BillieJo 05.21.09 at 1:24 pm
Hi ((anti)). Any word from Goooo yet?
Normita is asking also. It’s been too darn long and I am really worried.
DeadGirl 05.21.09 at 1:24 pm
eewwww… sharing a room with a male… OM& that is just too freaking creepy for me. Holland, you all have lost your minds.
mlhath 05.21.09 at 1:25 pm
I am troubled that we may be at war with a religion. I don’t know that one can win that kind of war. I have decided to read the Koran over my vacation this summer. Has anyone on site read it?
antifish 05.21.09 at 1:33 pm
#45 Hey, mlhath!
Me too! I play my Tapestry CD at least once a week. LOVE Carole.
mick 05.21.09 at 1:36 pm
Curious about the abortion of the female babies … how do we know that it was a Muslim mother? Isn’t abortion illegal in the Muslim world?
Everyday 1/2 of the fetuses aborted in this country are female … so I’m not sure why this situation in Sweden is an issue if it’s not an issue here? Not trying to have a debate about abortion, just making an observation.
antifish 05.21.09 at 1:36 pm
#47 Hey BillieJo,
No, not a peep from Go. I was thinking, maybe she doesn’t have access to a computer? Maybe the one she was using belonged to her sister who she lived with? Just don’t know…
persephone 05.21.09 at 1:36 pm
Islam is not just a religion.
When you’re done with the Koran read Geert Wilders.
Hijabi fashion-
murphy will love this!:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/video/2009/may/21/muslim-fashion-elenany
Susie1945 05.21.09 at 1:37 pm
mlhath – I wouldn’t waste my time or energy in reading that piece of crap – ISLAM sucks – unless you understand 7th century arabic – you will miss what their prophet said and even then it may not be correct because the guy was illiterate and could not read or write so someone else wrote down his words but do we know if they really are his?? I could care less about ISLAM – it needs to disappear – it’s a cult and way of life, not a religion so matter how they try to dress it up – the bible also is and has been translated so many times that the original writers probably wouldn’t recognize their words either – IMO all religions are cults and people are brainwashed – I used to be Catholic and after reading in the paper this am about how thousands of children were abused in Ireland by so-called priests and brothers, etc. makes me glad that I dumped that crap long ago……..another bunch of fuckin’ (literally) hypocrites
BTW – ISLAM sucks
antifish 05.21.09 at 1:38 pm
Oops, forgot to hug you back… (((BillieJo)))
persephone 05.21.09 at 1:41 pm
mick
Although it’s nobody’s business WHY a woman chooses to terminate-if you click on murphy’s link above the article quotes Swedish medical professionals who say that in certain “cultures” women are pressured to give birth to SONS.
It’s FEMICIDE.
Susie1945 05.21.09 at 1:43 pm
persephone – looked at the video – no way in hell would I wear any of that crap – I like my clothes just fine and if I feel like wearing a pair of shorts & a tank top – I will – if people don’t like it – look the other way – I don’t know if I would subject anyone to this 64-year old body in a bikini but if I felt like wearing one I would but probably not for long
in other words, ISLAM sucks and women who believe it doesn’t need to be deprogrammed badly……………….
Susie1945 05.21.09 at 1:44 pm
and waht a convoluted sentence that last one was – sorry – mind thinking faster than fingers type
Social-Psyche 05.21.09 at 1:44 pm
reprising this from Fave Things previous post, because we need to think of women like these, who never gave up fightin’ the good fight…
GoPumaGo in #19
DancesWithYogurt in #85
Shirley Chisholm mesmerized me. My list of favourite books includes two of hers– the famous Unbought & Unbossed, plus Abortion Rap co-written with Flo Kennedy.
When Shirley Chisholm ran for President in 1972, she was not the only woman, nor woman of colour, to enter the race. Her sister Democrat, Patsy Mink, was a popular yet also outspoken reprsentative from Hawaii who stood up against the status quo and her party on many occasions, before and after, when she declared her candidacy in 1972, in the state of Oregon.
Patsy had no significant funds but relied on volunteers and her own hard work. She was a fantastic campaigner and debater who never gave up, never gave in to negative pressures, and she had been on the brunt end of plenty. She didn’t get far in that state’s primary but she remained a fighter in Congress and her community.
Patsy Mink co-authored Title IX with Edith Green.
She came out swinging hard and early against U.S. military involvement in Southeast Asia.
She co-authored two important mining laws (1975 and 76) that gave some much-needed protection against strip mining at the time, though much of the restrictions of course have been circumvented by the powerful corporations and their shills in the monster formerly known as our government.
In 1951, she was one of very few women to graduate from the Univ of Chicago. I think there was only one other woman in the class at the time. She immediately ran into race + gender bias when she tried to find a law firm to employ her.
She later taught law at the Univ of Hawaii.
She fought the nominations of both Clarence Thomas and Harrold Carswell, the latter being selected by Nixon but opposed by Mink and others on the grounds of his bigotry agsinst women and his white supremacist views, not to mention his *lack of experience*.
independent film shown on PBS:
http://www.aheadofthemajority.com/
“A Woman Who Fought For Our Rights”
Jennifer Steenberg / March 2009
http://blog-aauw.org/2009/03/26/patsy-mink/
persephone 05.21.09 at 1:45 pm
#56 cont..
Preventing girls from being born because they are of little worth in these *cultures*
The Chinese do it because they are limited to one child and they want boys.
Muslims do it because they want boys.
Muslim clerics in Italy have been telling women that they are “vessels” for making jihadists..boys…
PUMAbear 05.21.09 at 1:45 pm
Murphy,
Checking in briefly but I have to ask a few questions re the “war”
When did it start?
Why Saudi Arabia and the bin Ladins are not part of the front since Wahabism is cultivated there?
Who will fight the war without a draft, a front or a treasury?
Why, after all the forged documents, romors and outright lies of the Bush-Cheney administration, we should suddenly start believing them?
persephone 05.21.09 at 1:47 pm
don’t worry susie
you will not see me with a rag wrapped around my head, designer logo or not-unless im gardening on a hot day.
far as the bikini goes, i will wear one if you will
might need to get drunk first
persephone 05.21.09 at 1:49 pm
Pumabear
When did it start?
9/11/2001
HP Boston 05.21.09 at 1:55 pm
honora 05.21.09 at 1:09 pm
Can I agree with the Muslim women that are opposed to sharing hospital rooms with members of the opposite sex?? I hate having to share a room with a stranger of the same sex, co-ed would be really yucky.
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And I also will not want to do that…I won’t go to any hospital now for ELECTIVE test such as colonospcy etc B/C they have open room where everyone is farting around. Recovery rooms the same, the worst is the Lahey Clinic……..
mick 05.21.09 at 1:55 pm
Persephone #56
“Although it’s nobody’s business WHY a woman chooses to terminate.”
BUT in this case it is?
persephone 05.21.09 at 1:57 pm
more info on
“when did it start”
for those who would like to go back a bit further-recommended by Phyllis Chesler:
The Decline of Eastern Christianity Under Islam : From Jihad to Dhimmitude : Seventh-Twentieth Century (Hardcover)
by Bat Ye’or
PUMAbear 05.21.09 at 1:58 pm
Persephone,
On 9/11 we were hit by two plane loads of Saudis.
There were other attacks on U.S. Interests abroad in Tanzania and on the U.S. Cole. But some of the players have been allies performing on behalf of other U.S. Interests in the region.
persephone 05.21.09 at 1:58 pm
mick
The key key word is “chooses”
Social-Psyche 05.21.09 at 1:59 pm
PumaBear in #61
The war started in 622AD– the year when the sociopath Mohammed smugly declared himself the prophet and profiteer of his own new religion, and denounced all other religions– uhmm, ezcepting some “people of the book” and anyone else with money to pay a “tax” to avoid his generous choice of slavery or death.
Burka schmerka.
antifish 05.21.09 at 1:59 pm
Looks like the Chinese government shares my belief that we will be saddled with inflation within the next three years and it is hedging its bets…
China Grows More Picky About Debt
By KEITH BRADSHER
Published: May 20, 2009
HONG KONG — Leaders in both Washington and Beijing have been fretting openly about the mutual dependence — some would say codependence — created by China’s vast holdings of United States bonds. But beyond the talk, the relationship is already changing with surprising speed.
snip
Financial statistics released by both countries in recent days show that China paradoxically stepped up its lending to the American government over the winter even as it virtually stopped putting fresh money into dollars.
This combination is possible because China has been exchanging one dollar-denominated asset for another — selling the debt of government-sponsored enterprises like Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac in a hurry to buy Treasuries. While this has been clear for months, new data shows that China is also trading long-term Treasuries for short-term notes, highlighting Beijing’s concerns that inflation will erode the dollar’s value in the long run as America amasses record debt.
So China’s rising purchases of Treasuries do not represent the confident bet on America’s future that they might seem to be on the surface. For instance, China does not appear to be dumping euros or yen to buy Treasuries, economists said.
That said, recent Chinese and American data suggest that an astounding 82 percent of China’s $2 trillion in foreign reserves is in dollars, according to calculations by Standard Chartered.
snip
China now earns more than $50 billion a year in interest from the United States, Mr. Setser at the Council on Foreign Relations calculated.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/21/business/global/21reserves.html?pagewanted=1&ref=business
murphy 05.21.09 at 2:00 pm
before that even persephone.
pumabear, good questions, and I think they speak to the schizophrenia of our foreign policy and the fatal squirmishness of our leaders.
if our country (the United States) chose to respond to the attacks of 1994, 1996, 1998, and 2001 by NOT going to war against any countries or groups, then fine — we would have been choosing a non-military, presumably diplomatic approach to defending the country.
I’m saying we can’t have it both ways, or a million different ways, and arguing over semantics (is it the religion or the culture we’re fighting?) or special cases (does Turkey count? Maylasia?) makes us look like cowards, liars, hypocrites, and worse.
the president has to draw bright clean lines (the diplomats, pundits, and analysts can discuss the finer points). but the leader has to be clear.
planning a major speech in the home of the Muslim Brotherhood at the same time that we’re supposedly pulling all our troops out of Iraq cities at the same time that insurgents are blowing shit up and killing US soldiers, at the same time that we’re not at war with Islam meanwhile dropping bombs on civilians in Afghanistan. . . and on and on.
This schizophrenic approach is immoral on top of also being weak.
murphy 05.21.09 at 2:02 pm
puma bear — absolutely agreed.
we should have dropped a bomb on Mecca on Sept 12, 2001 and another one on Messina the next day if the islamic leaders of the world didnt immediately surrender.
persephone 05.21.09 at 2:04 pm
But some of the players have been allies performing on behalf of other U.S. Interests in the region.
i dont get this-can you explain?
Also, I don’t think the culture war with Islam just started on 9/11-I think 9/11 was a wakeup call for people to start noticing.
See the book ref above.
I give no pass to the Saudi’s. I was and remain profoundly disturbed by the invasion of Iraq.
When Dick Cheney said some day we’d all think it was a brilliant move I knew for sure he was completely out of his mind.
But my disgust with and anger at the Bush administration does not change the very real global jihad that is being waged on non-Islamic cultures and all women, Muslims included.
persephone 05.21.09 at 2:05 pm
Burka schmerka.
sums it up quite nicely-geez I coulda just typed that and been done with it!
DeadGirl 05.21.09 at 2:07 pm
wow
persephone 05.21.09 at 2:07 pm
persephone 05.21.09 at 2:04 pm
But some of the players have been allies performing on behalf of other U.S. Interests in the region.
i dont get this-can you explain?
never mind, pb-i got it!!
PUMAbear 05.21.09 at 2:07 pm
Social-psyche,
I can’t have much dialog on a blackberry but did’t all monotheistic religions suppress the competing religions?
Christianity obliterated all pre Christian religions. Only “pagans” allowed for the inclusion of other religions.
persephone 05.21.09 at 2:08 pm
Hi DG
just the usual light conversation!
pollen is f-ing brutal today, huh?
Social-Psyche 05.21.09 at 2:11 pm
murphy in #72:
Islam is a “world” about as much as “The West” is– and with just as few genuinely able, widely recognized leaders. IOW, they’re in more disarray than even we are. The more authoritarian and brutal they get, the weaker and more desperate they really are, as they drive out at least as many people as they bring in through modest rates of conversion and even higher births.
Bombing their 2 symbolic cities would have created more martyrs and a big rallying point.
persephone 05.21.09 at 2:15 pm
Oh, Hillary.
I don’t want to meet President Obama.
I want to meet President Clinton. President Hillary Clinton.
Why did you send me this??
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HP Boston 05.21.09 at 2:17 pm
75
DeadGirl 05.21.09 at 2:07 pm
wow
ya!
Social-Psyche 05.21.09 at 2:19 pm
PumaBear in #77:
Yep, polytheists can more readily absorb a rival into their pantheon. You’re right about monotheistic religions trying to obliterate or at least replace their rivals, but one absorption example would be of Christmas and Easter being originally pagan rites.
WRT blackberries, I prefer dialog with the kind I can cook into a thick sauce and put on top of my pancakes. I can’t work the Blackberry very well because of its buttons/keys and overall layout, and I’m normally high dexterity with everything else.
DancesWithPumas 05.21.09 at 2:20 pm
All Patriarchal Religions SUCK
HP Boston 05.21.09 at 2:20 pm
Finally, I know it’s said a lot, but it’s the truth. We cannot succeed without you.
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Jeeze I fucking hope so!!!!!
DancesWithPumas 05.21.09 at 2:23 pm
Dinner and a photo with President Obama is a memory that will last a lifetime.
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It already feels like a lifetime with oblotma.
HP Boston 05.21.09 at 2:23 pm
83
DancesWithPumas 05.21.09 at 2:20 pm
All Patriarchal Religions SUCK
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fanatics one and all!
Oh yeah they do
murphy 05.21.09 at 2:24 pm
well, I’m not the president, so.
I agree with persephone: “I give no pass to the Saudi’s. I was and remain profoundly disturbed by the invasion of Iraq.
When Dick Cheney said some day we’d all think it was a brilliant move I knew for sure he was completely out of his mind.
But my disgust with and anger at the Bush administration does not change the very real global jihad that is being waged on non-Islamic cultures and all women, Muslims included.”
I was also opposed to the Iraq invasion, protested it and everything.
a non-military response to the terrorist attacks in the United States and to Americans and Jews everywhere would be a reasonable one. I’m not saying war was or is the only answer.
I’m saying half-assed, lying, imperialistic war is wrong-headed and evil.
social-psyche, you may be right. what you say makes sense. but islam reminds me of a rabid dog. not all that powerful in the BIG sense, but a serious danger locally.
DancesWithPumas 05.21.09 at 2:24 pm
Save your money. I’ll photoshop you in with obleaghma and send a bag of potato chips along with the printout.
PUMAbear 05.21.09 at 2:24 pm
I agree that “reactionary” cultural Islam is a threat to the West. The most extreme Islam is encouraged cynically I Saudi Arabia because SA is an oppressive monarchy that uses the cultivation of religious fanaticism to retain power.
Lots of Muslim countries deplore the fanatical Saudi regime.
Isn’t it strange that the closest US ally is the most extreme on religion and politics?
HP Boston 05.21.09 at 2:26 pm
persephone
Gee I could use a chocolate cupcake right about now………
I’m all Drambuie-ed out.
Social-Psyche 05.21.09 at 2:28 pm
Persephone in #74:
On second thought, maybe I oughtta spell it like this!
burka schmurka
LOL.
Using an “e” is not as pretty, plus I wouldn’t want people to mispronounce it like schmear-ka. That’s too close to smearcase! Oh, the confusion. Oh, the power of cheese… or cheesiness.
Whatever way they pronounce the “u” it’ll at least be the same in both words.
Phyllis Chesler would understand why these language decisions are important!
HP Boston 05.21.09 at 2:30 pm
Yup old man bush and jr were bffs with the Saudis…nothing has changed.
PUMAbear 05.21.09 at 2:31 pm
I think it’s only fair to add that the two worst offending countries aborting female fetusus are China and India.
HP Boston 05.21.09 at 2:34 pm
PUMAbear 05.21.09 at 2:31 pm
I think it’s only fair to add that the two worst offending countries aborting female fetusus are China and India.
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Not only fair PB but true. China is hurting now b/c they do not have ENOUGH women! So the poor girls that do exsist are in more danger. They are sold early and forever.
Susie1945 05.21.09 at 2:35 pm
Yeah PUMAbear – but what do the saudis have that we need? OIL OIL OIL – but we can’t do any drilling here or develop alternative energy sources because there is nothing cheaper than oil at the moment – so the fraud and his minions gotta keep suckin’ those saudis & the other ISLAMic (btw ISLAM sucks) assholes becuz that’s how they get their power & their money & in the fraud’s case (maybe his blow jobs) – don’t know but we really need to find somebody (hillary??????) who has the balls to stand up to the patriarchy and tell them all to go to hell & take their muslim buddies with them……………….
BTW – I’m on a rant today too – so tired of the bullshit flowing from the fraud, the bullshit coming from cheney, the bullshit coming from the congress – isn’t there one fuckin’ person in this whole country who will stand up for us? supposedly the people who elected these assholes……….guess the old saying is true – you get what you pay for and by god, we’re paying – big time………………..
persephone – will have to finish bottle of lemoncello in order to wear bikini – LOL
murphy 05.21.09 at 2:36 pm
puma bear, yup. I was surprised about the abortion thing too , i would have thought abortion would be illegal for muslims.
and no i dont think it’s weird that we’re not at war with saudi arabia even though we should be.
there are plenty of saudi oligarchs in the billionaires club.
that’s why we have such a CF — our leaders’ motives are not pure. as YOU know, I’m sure!
gay gal 05.21.09 at 2:38 pm
DancesWithPumas 05.21.09 at 2:20 pm
All Patriarchal Religions SUCK
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Double dildo. Oh I meant ditto.
Anna7000 05.21.09 at 2:41 pm
We ARE at war. Glad to see it typed out here plain and true. How quickly the masses forget that we were attacked just a few years ago. Obama and his administration (regretably, Clinton has become complicit in all of this) think you can negotiate and have diplomatic relations with the Hitlers and Stalins of the world. It doesn’t work. Harsh reality. The sooner Obama and the electorate wake up to reality the sooner it can be addressed. The choices before us may suck, but behaving as if things are other than how they are will suck even more.
gay gal 05.21.09 at 2:42 pm
PUMAbear 05.21.09 at 2:31 pm
I think it’s only fair to add that the two worst offending countries aborting female fetusus are China and India.
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The female birthed babies put in shoe boxes on door steps to die just aren’t reported in Afghanistan, Pumabear.I have cried many of tear about this.
mick 05.21.09 at 2:42 pm
Gibbs spinning again ….
Susie1945 05.21.09 at 2:43 pm
Oh Christ – now gibbsie is on tv parsing words and trying to sound like he actually knows more than how to tie his shoes – probably uses velcro…………….
Social-Psyche 05.21.09 at 2:43 pm
Susie1945:
we really need to find somebody (hillary??????) who has the balls
Somebody who has the cervix? The labia and clitoris? Oh no wait, not in Islam.
HP Boston 05.21.09 at 2:44 pm
Susie1945 05.21.09 at 2:35 pm
Our whole life time it has been about the OIL.
The power brokers have made sure we stay dependent on OIL.
We have had the technology to provide alternate power sources but it WILL never happen.
Years ago solar was big…it was squelched. We could be free of the oil barons, now the Congress is ready to shut us down …cap and trade we are doomed. Pay more for less…all in the lies of coal and OIL!
gay gal 05.21.09 at 2:45 pm
“How quickly the masses forget that we were attacked just a few years ago.”
On a personal note, I don’t think that is true, Anna. There are just different public (not political) ideologies on this.Different “spiritual/religious” or moral views on this I think.
mick 05.21.09 at 2:48 pm
HP Boston #103
In addition to alternate power sources, we also have a shit-load of Oil that we can tap on U.S. soil too …
mick 05.21.09 at 2:48 pm
but it ain’t happening.
Anna7000 05.21.09 at 2:49 pm
gay gal
Are you saying there are people who don’t label what occured on 9/11 as an attack on the U.S.?
Susie1945 05.21.09 at 2:49 pm
Exactly – which is my point – who has the ba…..sorry clitoris to stand up & tell all those bastards to go to hell and help us become a free society again – btw _ ISLAM sucks…………..
they want to build solar plants in the desert but they use tremendous amounts of water – any big lakes in the desert that aren’t empty???? wind power – fine but how about the birds & the money needed to connect them to the grid which is out of date and has been for a long time – lots of questions – no answers just plenty of bull shit – gotta go put my stilettoes on – step above the shit & kick ass at the same time……………
mick 05.21.09 at 2:50 pm
Anna7000 #98
Dildo, er, I mean Ditto.
HP Boston 05.21.09 at 2:52 pm
no mick it ain’t………O’peckerhead and the admin assholes are leading us straight up shits creek.
Social-Psyche 05.21.09 at 2:52 pm
Murphy, HP Boston, gay gal:
I dildo ditto your sentiments above.
We all need chocolate cupcakes (Can you make mine the kind with marshmallow fluff in the middle and chopped nuts with choc sprinkles in the frosting; I’m really into textures.) We all need a bottle of wine or sum’tin too, because you know chocolate makes a person thirsty.
We all need another contest! This time, let’s compile a list of O-monikers and choose the top 3… or top 5… 10!?
In this thread alone, I’ve seen (mostly from Dances)
Odipshit
Oblowhard
O’Coward
Oblotma
Obleaghma
Don’t forget Oh-Bobblehead, and all the non-O aliases, like Celebritician and POTUS The Perp….
Anna7000 05.21.09 at 2:53 pm
I’ll add Uh-Oh to the list, and sign out with that.
Anna7000 05.21.09 at 2:54 pm
Perhaps it should be Uh-O.
gay gal 05.21.09 at 2:54 pm
“cap and trade we are doomed.”
It is my understand that cap and trade is a legal issue. The EPA ruled on these standards long ago and it has already be upheld by the Supreme Court. Our Government is on a time line to deal with this, unless they do appeals to the Court again.
The coal industry knows this EPA ruling just as much a our politicians. Another “smoke” screen. Pun intended. I will go find the links, because I know I will be asked.
The coal industry doesn’t have to pass on those taxes to the public either. They are basically going to try to make for the R&D of the oxymoron of clean coal technology. That part was a IMO.
mick 05.21.09 at 2:55 pm
My fav pet name for Dear Leader is Osmegma.
HP Boston 05.21.09 at 2:57 pm
Susie1945 05.21.09 at 2:49 pm
Those are the EXCUSES they use…they brainwashed the technology as not doable…IT IS, the sucking LIE and subvert all and make people believe the crap they spew.
They are still at it…
gay gal 05.21.09 at 2:59 pm
“Are you saying there are people who don’t label what occured on 9/11 as an attack on the U.S.?”
Of course not, Anna. I don’t think my statement reads that way at all.My original response: “…I don’t think that is true…” to your statement “How quickly the masses forget that we were attacked just a few years ago.”
Social-Psyche 05.21.09 at 3:03 pm
mick in #115:
from
http://www.circlist.com/anatterms/phimotic.html
“Uncircumcised male with foreskin retracted, presents with large accumulation of smegma (sometimes called ‘cock cheese’.) Smegma is thought to be the cause of numerous penile and female urinary/genital infections. The male penis begins producing even greater quantities of smegma during puberty, and care must be taken to wash the penis regularly, from childhood throughout adult life if the male is not circumcised, to prevent the accumulation of this foul smelling substance.”
Indeed. Way to go, mick!
HP Boston 05.21.09 at 3:06 pm
Social-Psyche 05.21.09 at 2:52 pm
Murphy, HP Boston, gay gal:
I dildo ditto your sentiments above.
We all need chocolate cupcakes (Can you make mine the kind with marshmallow fluff in the middle and chopped nuts with choc sprinkles in the frosting; I’m really into textures.) We all need a bottle of wine or sum’tin too, because you know chocolate makes a person thirsty.
We all need another contest! This time, let’s compile a list of O-monikers and choose the top 3… or top 5… 10!?
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May I say Odirt to Odickforeskin…oh wow the names are unlimited. o’lyingsackofshit…stop me….ochump, odumbo…..Obs
BillieJo 05.21.09 at 3:08 pm
Wow, glad I’m not the only one that woke up pissed off…
Obamadrama every time he opens his lying mouth.
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(((Anti)))
No, not a peep from Go. I was thinking, maybe she doesn’t have access to a computer? Maybe the one she was using belonged to her sister who she lived with? Just don’t know…
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Don’t they have internet cafe’s in Arizona? It’s not that backward in the sand dunes, is it? Jeeze Gooo, come out of hiding and let us know you are okay.
Social-Psyche 05.21.09 at 3:08 pm
Mick,
I didn’t bolden “cock cheese” because I didn’t wanna overdo it.
Btw, was it my seemingly out-of-nowhere mention of cheese/cheesiness in an earlier reply to my sister goddess Persephone (umm, P., sorry for that stealing-your-beauty thang way back when), or is it just a cosmic non-coincidence of Great Minds thinkin’ on the same wavelength?
LOL.
HP Boston 05.21.09 at 3:09 pm
mick 05.21.09 at 2:55 pm
My fav pet name for Dear Leader is Osmegma.
Mick you win…………..
BillieJo 05.21.09 at 3:15 pm
#121 – Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh gack.
I’m eatin’ my lunch here.
Puke.
gay gal 05.21.09 at 3:16 pm
Murphy, HP Boston, gay gal:
I dildo ditto your sentiments above.
____________
Which of my sentiments, Social-Psych? Odildo or Odiito?
Enough nasty from me today. BBL
persephone 05.21.09 at 3:16 pm
geez I go outside for 5 minutes and the conversation turns immediately dirty
Did someone mention Phyllis Chesler?
her latest:
http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/blood-libel-at-national-geographic-magazine/
DancesWithPumas 05.21.09 at 3:18 pm
This time, let’s compile a list of O-monikers and choose the top 3… or top 5… 10!?
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We have a list, it’s in the comic section o fteh Action Center.
I’d rather keep doing prowls than have another contest.
Social-Psyche 05.21.09 at 3:18 pm
BillieJo in #120:
Obamadrama
Makes me think of a discount store– huge, jam-packed with junk all disarrayed, much of it marked Irregular, Discontinued, and (my fave) Not to Be Re-sold in Retail Stores.
If not a discount mart, then it has to be a third-rate carnival show.
DancesWithPumas 05.21.09 at 3:19 pm
Social Psyche
What name do you go by on Rumproast or Stupid Pumas, if any?
antifish 05.21.09 at 3:21 pm
In keeping with the topic of this thread, I’ve found this site which outlines verses of the Quran which are undoubtedly used to justify the abhorrent practices of the Islamic cultists.
http://www.faithfreedom.org/Articles/quran_teaches.htm
Oh, and the apostasy part is also a major factor in my belief that Obama is a closet Muslim. Despite the lies posted on his website, there is evidence in the form of school records and eyewitness accounts from those who attended mosque with him, that he was once a Muslim. The penalties for leaving the cult are very severe indeed. I somehow doubt anyone as spineless as BO would become a non-believer.
PS-The section on women is a real eye-opener.
Social-Psyche 05.21.09 at 3:23 pm
Dances, and gay gal if you’re here still…
It was your ditto of Dances et al:
All Patriarchal Religions SUCK
We could have a contest over exactly WHAT they suck!
Just kiddin’, Dances. Don’t worry, there’s no popular demand for an actual O-moniker contest. We’re just lettin’ off steam via creative word play.
Btw Dances, what do you think of the Patriarchy stickers that Alice and I worked on together?
DancesWithPumas 05.21.09 at 3:25 pm
SP
I haven’t looked at them yet.
persephone 05.21.09 at 3:27 pm
FL barbara #23
How sad, that abortion, the right of choice women fought for is being used as a tool to exterminate women.
So Islam has found a tool that can now elminate us at whim and women are being forced to abort their daughters.
How very sad.
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What does SOS Clinton have to say about selective abortion of female fetuses?
The wingnut fundies will be all over this story.
They will use the oppo to pry some more into female reprodoctive rights.
Social-Psyche 05.21.09 at 3:27 pm
Dances in #128:
Geez Dances. You’ve got the wrong number.
I’ve been on the receiving end of their bullshit. I certainly don’t deserve or want that from you, with them as your reason for accusing me.
persephone 05.21.09 at 3:29 pm
DW-Is there a creature among us??
DancesWithPumas 05.21.09 at 3:30 pm
SocialPsyche
I certainly don’t deserve or want that from you, with them as your reason for accusing me.
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“if any”. It was a question, not an accusation. One doesnt have to be a member of the freakazoids to particpate in their blog, altho, most are… no matter which side theyre on.
DancesWithPumas 05.21.09 at 3:33 pm
persephone 05.21.09 at 3:29 pm
DW-Is there a creature among us??
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Not that I know of.
SP sounded just familiar to me, based on email I’ve received.
Wasn’t accusing her/him of being one of the pimply assed, adolescent, bathroom humored dillweeds.
persephone 05.21.09 at 3:35 pm
Pumabear
Isn’t it strange that the closest US ally is the most extreme on religion and politics?
are the Saudis our allies or our owners?
how much saudi wealth came from the US?
what if the US wanted “out” of this alliance?
sorry to answer question with questions! Maybe you have a post on Patriotdems you can recommend?
Social-Psyche 05.21.09 at 3:37 pm
Dances:
I use an avoidance strategy with them. I realize they’re probably reading this thread. So what?
I don’t have time for that many forums. I do prefer discussions with positive/constructive emphases on information and action rather than on opinion alone.
persephone 05.21.09 at 3:37 pm
LOL dances, don’t be mean to the coo-coos.
Social-Psyche 05.21.09 at 3:48 pm
DWP and Persephone:
I feel suddenly like the object of the subject, so to speak. Good old-fashioned e-mail would be a better way to ask and receive answers, rather than opening the Pandora’s box to further assumptions.
For the record, I’ve been called eccentric and nutty probably no more/less than you, but I am not one of the “coo-coos” under reference.
antifish 05.21.09 at 3:54 pm
BillieJo 05.21.09 at 3:08 pm
Don’t they have internet cafe’s in Arizona? It’s not that backward in the sand dunes, is it? Jeeze Gooo, come out of hiding and let us know you are okay.
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You’d think, or public libraries with computer/internet access. Just wish she’d let us know she’s OK at least.
murphy 05.21.09 at 4:02 pm
cheney versus the teleprompter posted,
take it upstairs!
michelina 05.21.09 at 4:29 pm
ONE MORE TIME:
ISLAM SUCKS !!!
HP Boston 05.21.09 at 4:48 pm
ISLAM SUCKS!
Oh let’s have a contest and see how many ways we can say Islam sucks. At least we can be OT and getting our point made. No sense wasting time with contests we have much to do and time to contact z for the walk we are going to do……..many, many are interested.
henry 05.21.09 at 4:52 pm
Dances et al
don’t know if this has been posted here, but it is worth seeing again if so. Concerns the tactics used by the bambi supporters to squash the opposition using ridicule as outlined in Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals. The journalist does a pretty good job.
http://www.foxnews.com/video2/video08.html?maven_referralObject=5153148&maven_referralPlaylistId=&sRevUrl=http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,520667,00.html
cdellavilla 05.21.09 at 4:54 pm
Islam is a frightening religion. I used to be more understanding of the plight of the Palistinians, until I learned the truth and after the 1972 attacks on the Jewish athletes by the black Septemberists.
I worked with a Muslim from Egypt and he did not like having a female supervisor. Plus he had two wives stashed in the U.S. and was interested in one of our students. I taught students in clinical lab science.
Women are lower than second class in that part of the world. That is why I was appalled when Pelosi stupidly asked the Saudis why there were no women in their parliament. Is she for real?
Women are raped, then stoned to death because of it. They are covered head to toe in burquas and yet they are guilty for their rapes. There are honor killings. That Koh guy that Obama wants confirmed appears to like Sharia law. Are these men NUTS?! Women suffer under this. Will Michelle be forced into a hijab? How about Malia and Sasha? Will they be forced to quit school?
I have a cousin who married a Kuwaiti and her mother feared that he would take the kids back to Kuwait to raise. How many American women have you heard about that have to steal their kids back when they want to leave the muslim world.
Heaven help us all.
DancesWithPumas 05.21.09 at 5:11 pm
Social-Psyche 05.21.09 at 3:37 pm
Dances:
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No worries. I was curious. Brad of Murphy’s film, The Audacity of Democracy, hangs out at roosterlumps, so does his woman friend, Lori, who is a Puma.
I asked and you answered, sorta. No biggie.
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