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And for those of us who realize this, it is more specifically an unsettling Theater of the Absurd. Which means, since (obviously) it is never explicitly acknowledged by the media or the political class that the drama being acted out on the national stage is LITERALLY being “acted out” and bears no resemblance whatsoever to whatever hidden reality is in fact  happening backstage and behind the curtains, we often watch events unfolding and wonder whether we’ve lost our minds. Are there actually Americans who honestly believe that Barack Obama CARES about them? That he ran for office in order to serve the interests of the people who voted for him? That he was telling the truth when he made promises about health care and ending the war and prosecuting Bush-era war crimes? 

Are there actually grown American citizens out there who BELIEVE that the economy is improving and that good times are just around the corner when the reality facing ALL of us who didn’t start out as millionaires is UNDENIABLY grim?

Yep, I’m afraid there are. So in this particular Theater of the Absurd the players (Axelrod, Emmanuel, obama, et al) have pierced the fourth wall and engaged the audience members, lulling them (by using Machiavellian Marketing techniques) into believing that they are participants in the action. The rest of us look around nervously at the people sitting beside us in the theater and wonder, HAVE THEY LOST THEIR MINDS!?

Which is why Chris Hedge’s essay about Brand Obama is such a relief:

“Reporters, especially those on television, no longer ask if the message is true but if the pseudo-event worked or did not work as political theater. Pseudo-events are judged on how effectively we have been manipulated by illusion. Those events that appear real are relished and lauded. Those that fail to create a believable illusion are deemed failures. Truth is irrelevant. Those who succeed in politics, as in most of the culture, are those who create the brands and pseudo-events that offer the most convincing fantasies. And this is the art Obama has mastered.

–snip–

The junk politics practiced by Obama is a consumer fraud. It is about performance. It is about lies. It is about keeping us in a perpetual state of childishness. But the longer we live in illusion, the worse reality will be when it finally shatters our fantasies. Those who do not understand what is happening around them and who are overwhelmed by a brutal reality they did not expect or foresee search desperately for saviors. They beg demagogues to come to their rescue. This is the ultimate danger of the Obama Brand. It effectively masks the wanton internal destruction and theft being carried out by our corporate state. These corporations, once they have stolen trillions in taxpayer wealth, will leave tens of millions of Americans bereft, bewildered and yearning for even more potent and deadly illusions, ones that could swiftly snuff out what is left of our diminished open society.”

Amen, Brother. I’m particularly struck by how perfectly the “perpetual state of childishness” description fits the Americans who are now universally known as obots. Any grown American citizen who refers to barack obama as “My President” in all seriousness either started out with a stunted consciousness or willfully shrank his world-view back down to the size it was in second grade. I guess it’s no coincidence that the symbol of mindless obama adoration is a sweet, sticky, artificial juice with no nutritional value that is marketed to very small children.

As I highlighted yesterday:

“His administration has spent, lent or guaranteed $12.8 trillion in taxpayer dollars to Wall Street and insolvent banks . . . Brand Obama has allocated nearly $1 trillion in defense-related spending and the continuation of our doomed imperial projects in Iraq, where military planners now estimate that 70,000 troops will remain for the next 15 to 20 years. . . Brand Obama has refused to ease restrictions so workers can organize and will not consider single-payer, not-for-profit health care for all Americans.”

I’ll add to that list: Brand Obama has now made it an administration-wide policy that “human rights are an ideal, not a priority.” He has let all women know that the Freedom of Choice Act is, likewise, NOT A PRIORITY. So, to all the women democrats who insulted us, impugned our reputations, and questioned our sanity for holding firm in our belief that women’s rights and freedoms were NEVER a priority for barack obama and that voting against him in November was actually the BEST THING WE COULD DO to put a stop to Brand Obama and the corporatist cronyism we KNEW was at the heart of his empty, meaningless campaign in order to eventually win our party back for a leader like Hillary Clinton, whom we KNEW would (and IS) championing human rights and women’s freedom worldwide, we say: Join Us! 

America, we warned you. Barack Obama never was and never will be an agent of change in Washington. He is, always was, and always will be a hologram of leadership manufactured by Machiavellian Marketeers who want nothing more than to continue the de-democractization of the United States begun by Ronald Reagan. The lesson the Machiavellian Marketeers who fix elections for their corporate donors learned from the Bush era is that if the messenger eventually becomes a person reviled by the masses, as George W. Bush became,  you don’t have to change the message. All you have to do is change the Messenger.

Is it a coincidence that the word Messiah means Messenger?

Pumapac reports. YOU decide.

 

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murphy 05.06.09 at 11:39 am

I’ll add to that list: Brand Obama has now made it an administration-wide policy that “human rights are an ideal, not a priority.” He has let all women know that the Freedom of Choice Act is, likewise, NOT A PRIORITY. So, to all the women democrats who insulted us, impugned our reputations, and questioned our sanity for holding firm in our belief that women’s rights and freedoms were NEVER a priority for barack obama and that voting against him in November was actually the BEST THING WE COULD DO to put a stop to Brand Obama and the corporatist cronyism we KNEW was at the heart of his empty, meaningless campaign in order to eventually win our party back for a leader like Hillary Clinton, whom we KNEW would (and IS) championing human rights and women’s freedom worldwide, we say: Join Us!

http://pumapac.org/join-us/

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TexasTigress 05.06.09 at 11:41 am

Murphy- you have mail

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BigCatLover 05.06.09 at 11:46 am

You nailed another one Murphy. Well said. Hope it changes some minds and brings in new recruits.

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Zee 05.06.09 at 11:49 am

Murphy, here is the link from the WaPo:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/05/04/AR2009050403450.html

It is a particularly distressing directive because I’ve seen other sources quoting excerpts from this as if it were Secretary Clinton making this policy and then backpedaling when called on it.

Even the Washington Post calls it a policy “Obama and Clinton” are enacting.

Who’s the president again? Is he a big enough boy to take responsibility for this himself?

He’s placating more of the most heinous human rights abusers on earth…

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Zee 05.06.09 at 11:49 am

Brand Obama is the perfect tag for him.

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murphy 05.06.09 at 11:50 am

hang on Delle!

not sure if anyone answered your question.

GPS means Global Positioning Satellite.

There have been satellites up in space looking down at the earth for YEARS now. They track the weather, look for earthquakes, tsunamis, etc. They also are used by media companies to connect reporters in remote places like Afghanistan to the TV, radio, and telephone.

They’re also used for spy purposes by our own and various other governments.

Some of the satellites are privately owned (by media companies) and since the advent of cell phones and laptops these satellite companies have “rented out” use of their satellites for commercial ventures. Such as Google Maps or the navigational devices like Garmin that so many people now have in their cars.

Like most technology, the benefits and new possibilities that are made possible are really really great and nifty, BUT there are also downsides and potential abuses, like privacy intrusion.

I guess we’re all sort of worrying about police states and it’s true that technology now makes the SCOPE and SIZE of a police state truly frightening to imagine. In the past, tyrants and police state governments were very limited by the size of their armies and the number and proliferation of their human agents out in the society.

What we face now is an AUTOMATION of the Police State.

spooky, but don’t fret.

we’re still free HERE!

Hiya Big Brother!!

;-P

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Dragonfly 05.06.09 at 11:53 am

Right on. I love “Machiavellian Marketeers” – is that your phrase?

This is why I no longer watch tv and listen to NPR only sporadically. I read local news reports, but national – no thanks. I cannot abide the spin machine. I’d rather do laundry, and I hate laundry.

The heart-breaking thing is that we can’t prevent this disaster. I’m glad we are writing about it.

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scarlet 05.06.09 at 11:58 am

Chrysler Bankruptcy Chicago (Mob) Style
2009 May 6

Robin Hood (Pres. Barack) Obama reached into taxpayers’ wallets and pulled a fast one just the other day.

What? You didn’t feel anything? You will.

Chrysler, recently forced into a ‘surgical’ bankruptcy, is putting the screws to its creditors and the taxpayers

http://www.big-government-in-your-wallet.com/chrysler-bankruptcy-chicago-mob-style/

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Delle 05.06.09 at 12:00 pm

Zee, Dances, Murphy –

Thank you all for being so patient with me and trying to answer my questions about GPS.

I promised on my last comment that I would drop the subject – and I will.

Let’s talk about somthing happy.

I can think of something happy – it’s not raining today in New York. :-)

Thanks a bunch. I mean it.

Delle

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scarlet 05.06.09 at 12:01 pm

Freedom in the 50 States: An Index of Personal and Economic Freedom

This paper presents the first-ever comprehensive ranking of the American states on their public policies affecting individual freedoms in the economic, social, and personal spheres.

We find that the freest states in the country are New Hampshire, Colorado, and South Dakota, which together achieve a virtual tie for first place. All three states feature low taxes and government spending and middling levels of regulation and paternalism.

New York is the least free by a considerable margin, followed by New Jersey, Rhode Island, California, and Maryland.

On personal freedom alone, Alaska is the clear winner, while Maryland brings up the rear.

As for freedom in the different regions of the country, the Mountain and West North Central regions are the freest overall while the Middle Atlantic lags far behind on both economic and personal freedom. Regression analysis demonstrates that states enjoying more economic and personal freedom tend to attract substantially higher rates of internal net migration.

http://www.mercatus.org/PublicationDetails.aspx?id=26154

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BillieJo 05.06.09 at 12:03 pm

Another award winning post Murphy, do you have a special room for all your awards?

“The junk politics practiced by Obama is a consumer fraud. It is about performance. It is about lies. It is about keeping us in a perpetual state of childishness. ”

No kidding, and to test what it will be like when the kool-aid wears off, ask most obots if this is the Hope and Change they voted for, (like I did) and they go into full attack mode. No brotherly love there.

Working in Obot Central I have seen the collective obot mood go from Party like it’s 1999 – Yea, we won!!! to………….
“I still believe, I still believe. Maybe if I wear an Obama t-shirt it will make me feel better. Those damn Republican’s really screwed up our economy, that’s why I am getting laid off or can’t find a job. Obama is so cute, he will save me. There is money coming soon, the stimulus bill will fix everything.”

It’s gonna get ugly when they realize he is a smoke and mirrors puppet, and PUMAs will look like the evil messengers. None of them are ever going to admit in public they have been duped unless their beloved MSM says it’s so.

Pass the sticky stuff.

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HP Boston 05.06.09 at 12:04 pm

“Yup Gram there is no Santa Claus, it’s my parents!”

I don’t have a link for this revelation, it was told to me in private.

Yup Matt I just found out that about our government,not real,fake. They just want us to feel happy, but the gifts we have we give to ourselves.

Yup Gram and I can ask them for lots more presents now!

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murphy 05.06.09 at 12:07 pm

Machiavellian Marketeers is mine, but Brand Obama is Hedges’

I think “Obama is a Brand” is a target that might stick, what do you all think?

I know that Hedges is a liberal and lots of left dems read him religiously, so this is pretty strong stuff coming from him.

p.s. ALways a PLEASURE to see you dragonfly!

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scarlet 05.06.09 at 12:11 pm

Afghanistan’s only pig quarantined in flu fear

KABUL (Reuters) – Afghanistan’s only known pig has been locked in a room, away from visitors to Kabul zoo where it normally grazes beside deer and goats, because people are worried it could infect them with the virus popularly known as swine flu.

The pig is a curiosity in Muslim Afghanistan, where pork and pig products are illegal because they are considered irreligious, and has been in quarantine since Sunday after visitors expressed alarm it could spread the new flu strain.

http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSTRE5444XQ20090505

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scarlet 05.06.09 at 12:14 pm

FAILURE GETS A PASS

L.A. Unified pays teachers not to teach

About 160 instructors and others get salaries for doing nothing while their job fitness is reviewed. They collect roughly $10 million a year, even as layoffs are considered because of a budget gap.

May 6, 2009

For seven years, the Los Angeles Unified School District has paid Matthew Kim a teaching salary of up to $68,000 per year, plus benefits.

His job is to do nothing.

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-teachers6-2009may06,0,3038809.story
Comments are interesting

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murphy 05.06.09 at 12:15 pm

FASCINATING post scarlet #10, thanks.

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Dragonfly 05.06.09 at 12:21 pm

Thanks, Murphy. ;-) And thank you for all you do for PUMAs.

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HP Boston 05.06.09 at 12:23 pm

scarlet 05.06.09 at 12:01 pm

Freedom in the 50 States: An Index of Personal and Economic Freedom

—————————–
Good to see New Hampshire on the top of that list. LIVE FREE OR DIE…
Mass is going to up the sales tax so a move to New Hampshire is looking good. The sales tax will off set property taxes, don’t need much, small house tiny property is doable.
Not that any one can buy anything now let alone pay more in sales taxes, may as well NOT buy anything taxable in Massachusetts…doable too!

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scarlet 05.06.09 at 12:26 pm

Combating Organized Retail Crime Act of 2009 introduced by Sen. Richard J. Durbin, Illinois

Shoplifting growing in poor economy

The five-fingered discount has a hold on the nation.

Pizzas, art supplies, baby formula, diabetic test strips, perennial plants ripped from the ground – just about anything is up for grabs in a sour economy as more Americans resort to shoplifting. Some filchers have gone pro – snitching the goods in organized raids and later unloading their wares at innocent swap meets or flea markets.

Shoplifting is up by 27 percent in the Great Lakes area, according to numbers released last month by police in Michigan. Shoplifting rose by 24 percent in Palo Alto, Calif., say local police, and by 30 percent in Tennessee, according to the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation.

Three bipartisan bills are before Congress to curb shoplifting, including the Combating Organized Retail Crime Act of 2009 introduced by Sen. Richard J. Durbin, Illinois Democrat.

Meanwhile, 35 states have enacted or introduced legislation to curb organized retail theft, primarily by increasing funding to law enforcement and by making the crime a Class 4 felony rather than a misdemeanor.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/may/06/shoplifting-growing-in-poor-economy/

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Delle 05.06.09 at 12:27 pm

Yes, there are people who really think the economy is improving.

They (we) are all being deceived about many things.

Ever hear of the Bilderbergers?

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/10854

Delle

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scarlet 05.06.09 at 12:29 pm

Obama’s Tax Proposal Shakes Silicon Valley: On a Richter Scale of 1 to 10, ‘About a 20′

Up until now, much of the tech industry has embraced President Barack Obama.

Techies seemed to appreciate his groundbreaking, tech-infused approach to campaigning, a nine-page technology position paper he introduced during the campaign, his BlackBerry addiction and that he named the nation’s first CTO, along with his appointment of groups to help him determine national tech priorities and to figure out ways to boost research-and-development spending.

Not to mention, at least some tech companies appear to be in a good position to receive government stimulus funds.

But at least some big tech players may now feel more like throttling Obama than embracing him, thanks to his proposal to eliminate three popular tax-avoidance methods employed by companies with offshore operations, including tech giants such as Cisco, IBM and Microsoft.

http://www.itbusinessedge.com/cm/blogs/all/obamas-tax-proposal-shakes-silicon-valley-on-a-richter-scale-of-1-to-10-about-a-20/;jsessionid=C33856F6408FB449582ABE426D71B3FD?cs=32322&decorator=print

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Zee 05.06.09 at 12:34 pm

Besides shoplifting, car thefts are up…ie, breaking into cars to steal stuff out of them. There have been three such incidents on my street (that I know of), and the last one resulted in the freestanding garage to burn down (tossed cigarette?). Then when I drove to DC for a friend’s wedding last week, I saw a sign in a nice neighborhood in northern VA warning of the same thing…car break-ins are rising, don’t keep valuables in your car.

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goofsmom 05.06.09 at 12:37 pm

It’s sad to see the crime levels rising but not unexpected. People are getting desparate and it will get worse.

Great thread Murphy and really great posts everyone…

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Zee 05.06.09 at 12:37 pm

Oh…I almost forgot…I interrupted one such theft at a local supermarket one night. Young man, he ran away. I reported it to the officer in the store…and the woman whose car it was said she’d left her purse inside (nothing was taken).

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Zee 05.06.09 at 12:39 pm

Just got an email from the Obama camp…ugh…it says “budget victory!”

Didn’t open it, but no doubt it includes a plea for a donation.

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scarlet 05.06.09 at 12:40 pm

ACCOUNTABILITY AND TRANSPARENCY

http://www.recovery.gov/

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Zee 05.06.09 at 12:42 pm

A “light” side to the recession? Blondes sell more…

http://www.newser.com/story/58191/recession-chic-quirky-out-blond-in.html

The story is how “quirky” faces and looks are out and sellers are going back to the tried and true convention blonde bombshells to sell their wares.

Check out the “sex sells” topless model. Lucky us, to be going backwards…

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Asian4Hillary 05.06.09 at 12:43 pm

I don’t know what to say or think, but everything is out there now in the open. I don’t know who said it before, but one of the great leaders in this country; “ When the people fear their own government, that is TYRANNY; when the government fear the people that is DEMOCRACY

Does the American people have Democracy? In my personal opinion, NO; USA is now a police state. In fact the first freedom the American people lost is their RIGHT TO PRIVACY. California a “liberal” state is one of the state who is LEAST free, what does it say about the people who are “politically correct”? You have no right to privacy anymore especially here in lower 48, you have given up everything for FALSE SECURITY. Very soon they would be tagging people in this country with Vchip to track them down wherever they are. The size of the chip is same size as the grain of rice.

Some of you are in favor of putting datas of each individual in the computer for medical records, easy access for healthcare. You’re being fooled, that data will be use by the NSA to spy on YOU! It against in the constitution for any US agency to spy on its citizen, guess how NSA does it to spy on citizens of this country, they go through Canada. NSA has bigger budget than the CIA, their budget is engaged in domestic espionage. NO politicians either Democrats or Republican talk about it or even made the American people be aware what is going with their government.

Asian countries have MORE freedom and the right to privacy than the American people. The people in this country are lving in FEAR. Even the media now are afraid to criticize Obama with EXCEPTION to the few who put their own necks on the line and yet 50% of US population call these FEW GOOD MEN in the media as fearmongers. They’re not fearmongers, they’re telling you the TRUTH, but you yourself is shaking with FEAR do not want to admit it, because to do so with give answers to your OWN fear.

Ask yourself this, why do you think Obama VOTED FOR FISA last year while Hillary was against it and also McCain? THINK!

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DancesWithPumas 05.06.09 at 12:44 pm

TT
Murphy fixed my actioncenter email… I can log in now.

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goofsmom 05.06.09 at 12:48 pm

TT,

Thank you for the email… It was great and really needed today!

((((Texas Tigress))))

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Zee 05.06.09 at 12:51 pm

Delle…I wouldn’t put too much stock in that source, or in any of the “elite” rule the world conspiracies.

Yeah, money talks, no doubt. WItness the “Washington Times” link Scarlet used. That’s Rev. Moon’s paper.

So he’s an utter nutcase, thinks he’s come to replace Jesus. But the “Moonies” who sold flowers in airports ages ago made Moon so much money that he’s “respectable” now. All of the Bushes hang out with Rev. Moon and his wife, and I kid you not…he used our own government buildings in the Capitol, attended to by our elected officials, to have his “crowning” ceremony. That’s the ceremony where he tossed the cross into the trash because the cross of Jesus has now been replaced by Moon’s “crown.”

Where’s the outrage? Nowhere…and people actually treat the Washington Times as though it were simply a “conservative” paper, when in fact it’s more money into Moon’s empire.

It’s all about the money.

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TexasTigress 05.06.09 at 12:51 pm

;)

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HP Boston 05.06.09 at 12:51 pm

Zee 05.06.09 at 12:37 pm

Oh…I almost forgot…I interrupted one such theft at a local supermarket one night. Young man, he ran away. I reported it to the officer in the store…and the woman whose car it was said she’d left her purse inside (nothing was taken).

———————————-
When shopping in store be careful, do not put your purse in the cart. Hold on to it.
Thieves have been stealing handbags and running from the store.

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MKfromLA 05.06.09 at 12:52 pm

Zee

I have a Kindle. You can adjust the font size quite easily. You can also subscribe to newspapers & magazines and have them delivered to your Kindle automatically. You can shop for books from your Kindle (it has a builtin wireless internet connection to the Amazon Kindle store) and buy a book and it will be delivered to your Kindle in about 1 minute. Oh, and you can adjust the font size. Oh, and there are a TON of books you can buy where the price is $0.00 — check out the Kindle store, then sort by price lowest to highest.

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Delle 05.06.09 at 12:52 pm

Asian –

“ When the people fear their own government, that is TYRANNY; when the government fear the people that is DEMOCRACY”

That was Thomas Jefferson.

The greatest of them all – in my opinion.

Delle

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admin 05.06.09 at 12:55 pm

oh SHOOT!

damn that damn Murphy.

I’ve been busy messing around with dials and knobs and FORGOT to tell murphy to fix dwp’s email.

(I think Murphy is busy printing out pictures of her new namesake)

what a narcissist.

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goofsmom 05.06.09 at 12:55 pm

((((Murphy))))

Hahaha!

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Zee 05.06.09 at 12:57 pm

Here are a couple of links to the Moon crowning event….there are many more.

Some of the congressmen (both D and R) claimed to have been duped…but how? Moon did target them (in particular the AA and faith-based communitites)….with contributions!

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=1972357

http://www.religionnewsblog.com/7640/a-crowning-at-the-capital-creates-a-stir

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HP Boston 05.06.09 at 12:58 pm

(I think Murphy is busy printing out pictures of her new namesake)

You have picks of the baby? Awesome dude!

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persephone 05.06.09 at 1:00 pm

duped??? bwahahaa!!
please!

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persephone 05.06.09 at 1:00 pm

what?? murphy had a baby?!

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Zee 05.06.09 at 1:01 pm

#34 MK, thanks…I applied to do a promotion for the Kindle, but didn’t make it through the hurdle to be a manager, alas. I want one!!

My doctor is trying me on different contacts, but there’s no way to make me 20/20. Oh…except to surgically replace my lenses, lol!

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admin 05.06.09 at 1:02 pm

btw, we now have an RSS feed at the top of the page so you can scroll through posts.

trying to figure out how to burn a feed for comments . . .

ALSO, pumapac now Twitters! I am a rank beginner with this new-fangled technology but am a true believer in Cinie’s argument that the internet is out strongest weapon, so I’m trying out different ways of amplifying our message.

If you’d like to stay connected with PumaPac just visit:

http://www.twitter.com and start following “pumapac”

you’ll get short updates when a new post is up, news is breaking, or a PROWL is posted. You may also receive some of Murphy’s dumb jokes.

such as,

Did you hear that a boat carrying red paint and a boat carrying blue paint crashed into each other?
Apparently the crew were marooned.

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HP Boston 05.06.09 at 1:02 pm

persephone 05.06.09 at 1:00 pm

what?? murphy had a baby?!

———– Murphy had a nice a couple weeks, months ago…….

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Zee 05.06.09 at 1:04 pm

#40…yeah..they were blinded by the shiny shiny money!

One of the congressmen…donned white gloves and carried the crown on a pillow…!!!

The Moonie Times should be the newspaper going under, but hey…they’ll always have plenty of money.

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admin 05.06.09 at 1:05 pm

that’s true — she does have a new niece, and a new nephew as of last week!

BUT I am referring to a sweet little ball of bossy fur deep in the heart of Texas whose new name is Murphy.

:-D

:-D

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scarlet 05.06.09 at 1:05 pm

(IsraelNN.com) Rahm Emanuel, Chief of Staff to U.S. President Barack Obama, told a large group of AIPAC supporters on Sunday that American efforts to stop Iran’s nuclear program depend on progress in Israel’s peace talks with the Palestinian Authority. So reported Channel One’s Mabat TV news report.

MK Yaakov Katz, chairman of the Ichud Leumi (National Union) party, says the veiled threat by Emanuel should be rebuffed and exposed for what it is: “He is basically telling Israel to commit suicide in exchange for American consent to consider dealing with the Iranian threat to the world.”

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/131196

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admin 05.06.09 at 1:07 pm

p.s. thanks for the link Zee, adding it now,

and btw there is an excellent puma blog added to the blogroll:

donna darko (you’ve probably read some of her excellent comments at various puma blogs)

http://donnadarko.wordpress.com/

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Swannie 05.06.09 at 1:07 pm

OMG I love dumb jokes …

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Asian4Hillary 05.06.09 at 1:08 pm

Delle 05.06.09 at 12:52 pm

Something is boiling, the steam is coming out of the spout and getting hotter and hotter. I’d be here to witness it all, it would be short but bloody, worse than the civil war that killed thousands of young men in Gettysburg, it would be brothers against brothers. The American people have forgotten their own SUPREME LAW OF THE LAND because they believe tolerance is the best way to live harmoniously, give everybody the right they demand yet NEVER mentioning in the same breath RESPONSIBILITY and ACCOUNTABILITY.

The founding fathers who signed the declaration of independence and wrote the US CONSTITUTION are turning in their graves right now. The American people due to their own selfishness, the attitude of ME ME is helping those who wanted to turn all of them into SLAVE of the STATE are busy gathering firewoods to burn the very LAW to protect them. And I say, SHAME ON THEM!

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Zee 05.06.09 at 1:11 pm

Apparently, the fundies in Israel are attacking women the same as the fundies who have taken over all of the Islamic countries.

I saw it mentioned on one of the Cannonfire posts but haven’t tracked down the story yet. We need to have separate names for all these fundies in order to separate and denounce them entirely.

Hasidics instead of Jewish
Opus Dei instead of Catholic
Taliban or jihadists for the Islamic extremists
“Dominionists” for the Christians —those are the ones who want to change our country’s laws and make women subserviant, etc.

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persephone 05.06.09 at 1:11 pm

Swannie 05.06.09 at 1:07 pm

OMG I love dumb jokes …
_______________________

OMG I love Swannie!
___________________
murphy-bossy fur?
I’m so confused. :roll:
but it sounds like I don’t have to buy you a baby gift after all..

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HP Boston 05.06.09 at 1:12 pm

Swannie 05.06.09 at 1:07 pm

OMG I love dumb jokes …

——————-Thats good b/c we have one who is president.
Brand Obama the joke is on us! No one is laughing………

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Zee 05.06.09 at 1:15 pm

#50

There was plenty of constitutional overturns and dismantling for the past 8 years. There’s no reason to get hysterical over it. What’s needed is the unglamorous work of spotlighting and repairing….such as rolling back Dubya’s provision that the feds can take over any state’s national guard.

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admin 05.06.09 at 1:15 pm

“over the last 5 months the BLS has reported 3.3 million net jobs lost!”

http://www.calculatedriskblog.com/2009/05/other-employment-reports.html

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TexasTigress 05.06.09 at 1:17 pm

why do I read persephone – ‘pursey-pony’??
Same thing with oscarp – Oh! scarp!
I can never make it stop .

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admin 05.06.09 at 1:17 pm

obama IS a dumb joke.

good one HP.

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Asian4Hillary 05.06.09 at 1:17 pm

It is NOT the last 8 years, earlier than that, go back to the time of Carter.

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Asian4Hillary 05.06.09 at 1:18 pm

It started with GOLD.

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HP Boston 05.06.09 at 1:19 pm

A mid-level executive was so frustrated at being passed over for promotion year after year, that, in frustration, he went to a brain-transplant center in the hope of raising his I.Q. 20 points.

After a battery of physical and psychological tests, he was told by the center’s director that he was an acceptable candidate.

“That’s great!” the executive said. “But I understand that this procedure can be really expensive.”

“Yes, sir, it can,” the director replied. “An ounce of accountant’s brain for example, costs one thousand dollars; an ounce of an economist’s brain costs two thousand; an ounce of a corporate president’s is forty-five thousand. An ounce of a Democrat’s brain is seventy-five thousand dollars.”

“Seventy-five thousand dollars for an ounce of a Democrat’s brain? Why on earth is that?”

“Do you have any idea,” the director asked, “how many Democrats voted for BRAND OBAMA. millions we would have to kill?”

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DancesWithPumas 05.06.09 at 1:19 pm

Did you hear that a boat carrying red paint and a boat carrying blue paint crashed into each other?
Apparently the crew were marooned.
—————
:roll:
lol

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Asian4Hillary 05.06.09 at 1:20 pm

If I want to be specific, it is in 1957 – ANGLO SAXON.

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Zee 05.06.09 at 1:21 pm

Oh, and no doubt some of the founders are rolling over in their graves that women can now vote. Those who aren’t rolling in their graves are the ones who made sure the Constitution is a living document, able to be changed as fits the time.

It’s up to us to make sure one branch doesn’t permanently intrude on another to disrupt the checks and balances. It’s not anything that can’t be remedied.

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DancesWithPumas 05.06.09 at 1:22 pm

TT
Love Love Love it!
In no time at all, you’re gonna have a huge kennel populated by Puma namesakes. ;)

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TexasTigress 05.06.09 at 1:25 pm

dances- I am maxed out ! lol
right now Dances and Jenni are wrestling (roughly) Murphy is supervising , and goofs is trying to get in on the action , but he keeps getting yelled at by dances for trying to hunch her leg (not sure what it all means )

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DancesWithPumas 05.06.09 at 1:27 pm

TexasTigress 05.06.09 at 1:25 pm
right now Dances and Jenni are wrestling (roughly)
———————–
Have you been reading my email??!

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HP Boston 05.06.09 at 1:27 pm

Zee 05.06.09 at 1:15 pm

#50

There was plenty of constitutional overturns and dismantling for the past 8 years. There’s no reason to get hysterical over it. What’s needed is the unglamorous work of spotlighting and repairing….such as rolling back Dubya’s provision that the feds can take over any state’s national guard.

———————————-
I wouldn’t use hysterical…I am fucking horrified. How will we ever get this Admin to change any of the power enhancers Bush gave them? They are running on a full tank of Viagra and Cialis and they are hard and fast!!!!

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goofsmom 05.06.09 at 1:27 pm

TT,

ROFLMAO!!!

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DancesWithPumas 05.06.09 at 1:27 pm

but he keeps getting yelled at by dances for trying to hunch her leg (not sure what it all means )
—————-
I resemble that remark!

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TexasTigress 05.06.09 at 1:27 pm

LOL !!!!!!!!!!!

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mimi1020 05.06.09 at 1:28 pm

admin 05.06.09 at 1:15 pm

“over the last 5 months the BLS has reported 3.3 million net jobs lost!”

Hold on, let me put on my surprised face……..:0

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Zee 05.06.09 at 1:29 pm

Asian, Bush is not the only one who has made power grabs, no. Reagan illegally called up the national guard before, and other presidents may have, too.

But Bush’s stealth power grab in 2006 was then countered by Congress in 2007.

http://www.towardfreedom.com/home/content/view/911/

http://proliberty.com/observer/20060804.htm

http://prorev.com/2007/12/congress-weakens-bushs-grab-of-national.html

My point is, hysteria and hand-wringing and dire talk of taking up arms and treating the Constitution as if it’s something that can be permanently “broken” is a waste of time and emotion.

It’s meant to be changed, and there are plenty of people on the look-out to restore balance of power. We need to be, too, of course…that helps propel the corrections.

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goofsmom 05.06.09 at 1:30 pm

TT,

Sounds like Goofs is a lover not a fighter or he needs to be fixed. LOL LOL

Sorry about that Dances…

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DancesWithPumas 05.06.09 at 1:31 pm

I wonder of Goofsmom is have a gender identity crisis now?

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goofsmom 05.06.09 at 1:33 pm

((((Dances))))

Nope…. LOL LOL LOL

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DancesWithPumas 05.06.09 at 1:34 pm

Hey Goofs and TT,
I have an idea.
Put Dances in one bathtub, and Goofs in another.
That should remedy Goof’s natural cialis problem.

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Zee 05.06.09 at 1:34 pm

#67 HP

Oh, I dunno. Personally, I am highly amused to see those on the right writhing after shrugging off everything that horrified us during the Bush era. It just goes to show we need to keep all of our administrations in check.

But this goes wayyyyyy back before the Patriot Act. There’s a pretty funny story about President Adams’ own version of the Patriot Act. I think they jailed a guy who opined he wished the canon salute his town gave the president back then would hit Adams “in the arse.”

Jailing him, however, led directly to the repeal of the act, and so it goes.

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Asian4Hillary 05.06.09 at 1:35 pm

HP Boston

Well said!

BTW, I am laughing here about Arlen Specter, he lost his seniority status as US Senator, democrats in the US senate voted unanimously to demote him to junior senator.

Think of this, they work with Specter for YEARS side by side, they reneged on him, how much more to the American people they don’t know on personal basis. That says a LOT about the Democratic Party, I’m so glad the party abandoned me last year. It feels good to be independent.

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goofsmom 05.06.09 at 1:37 pm

Asian,

OHHHH… that is excellent news on Specter… thanks for posting that… ;)

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TexasTigress 05.06.09 at 1:37 pm

:lol:
BBL

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Asian4Hillary 05.06.09 at 1:37 pm

Zee

Keep toeing the party line, you’re getting good at it, but let me tell you, your slip is showing. Keep following the yellow brick road until you meet the hangman.

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Zee 05.06.09 at 1:39 pm

Yes, they “turned” on Specter after he was such a dolt to say that he hoped Minnesota judges (“activist” judges the republicans call them when they’re not hoping for intervention on their own) gave the election to Norm Coleman, who needs to quit dragging this on and on.

Yep, it feels good not to have an agenda. :)

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Asian4Hillary 05.06.09 at 1:39 pm

BTW Zee, you CAN fool others, you don’t fool me. I’ve seen the likes of you many time over.

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goofsmom 05.06.09 at 1:39 pm

TT,

I am very honored to have lil’ goofs named after me… 1 more saved animal and part of the Puma Pack… hehehe. Even if he needs a little saltpeter and separate bath tubs…

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HP Boston 05.06.09 at 1:40 pm

Oh, I dunno. Personally, I am highly amused to see those on the right writhing after shrugging off everything that horrified us during the Bush era. It just goes to show we need to keep all of our administrations in check.

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But but but Zee my Democratic party is in now and has been since 2006 and I am just as horrified as under Bush, more so…..

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admin 05.06.09 at 1:40 pm

from the WSJ political diary (sorry, no link):

“Nobody Likes a Turncoat

Senate Democrats finally found an entitlement program they dislike so much that they voted to eliminate it last night. No, it wasn’t a budget vote to shrink the size of government. It was the deal that Senator Arlen Specter cut with Majority Leader Harry Reid to preserve Mr. Specter’s committee seniority despite his move from the Republican Party to Democratic Party. On NBC’s “Meet the Press” Sunday, Mr. Specter had called his seniority an “entitlement” he deserved.

“I was elected in 1980. I think [keeping my seniority] is not a bribe or a give for something extraordinary,” he said. “I’ll be treated as a Democrat as if I was elected as a Democrat.”

Not so fast. Resentful Democrats went on the warpath against Mr. Reid’s offer to treat Mr. Specter as if he had been a Democrat since 1980 — an arrangement that could make Mr. Specter a committee chairman if he wins re-election next year. Senate Democrats effectively agreed by voice vote last night to strip Mr. Specter of his seniority — avoiding a roll-call vote that would have revealed exactly who his adversaries inside the Democratic caucus are. Mr. Specter will now be listed as the most junior member on the Judiciary Committee, meaning he’ll be last in line for questioning whomever President Obama appoints to fill the Supreme Court vacancy. That’s a big comedown from his role as chairman during the confirmation battles surrounding John Roberts and Sam Alito in 2005.

With the loss of seniority, there is almost no way Mr. Specter can become even a subcommittee chairman assuming he wins a sixth term next year. It robs him of a major selling point he was planning to use to convince Pennsylvania voters to return him to office. Mr. Specter will argue that Democrats could always revisit the issue of his seniority after the 2010 elections, but the precedents aren’t good. In 2003, Democrats enticed former Senator Frank Lautenberg back into public life to save the New Jersey seat held by scandal-tarred Bob Torricelli. Mr. Lautenberg kept the seat for his party as the last-minute Democratic nominee, but was relegated to junior roles on committees even though he had 18 years of prior service in the Senate.

It seems that Mr. Specter, a master political operator and opportunist, has been outfoxed. He may have an easier time winning renomination in a Democratic primary, but his new party has now stripped him of his most precious Senate asset — his seniority.

– John Fund”

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DancesWithPumas 05.06.09 at 1:40 pm

Asian4Hillary 05.06.09 at 1:39 pm
BTW Zee, you CAN fool others, you don’t fool me. I’ve seen the likes of you many time over.
————-
I hope we’re not going *there* again.
There is no there, there.

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Zee 05.06.09 at 1:41 pm

And so it goes. :)

You all lost your campaign. Liberals can feel free to come here and not have Washington Moonie Times links shoved at us without comment.

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Zee 05.06.09 at 1:42 pm

I was wondering, dances, if they’d lose gracefully and move on to common interests.

I guess we have our answer.

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Zee 05.06.09 at 1:44 pm

#85 HP…exactly. And in 2007 our Dems moved to counteract Bush’s power grab.

In other words, checks and balances work, but they take time to unfold.

And yeah…it’s horrifying no matter who makes the power grab, but we tend to only be horrified when the “other guys” have access to it!

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Zee 05.06.09 at 1:46 pm

Meanwhile, tho…if Brand Obama does implement his national service plans, I guess we’ll have horror across the board, for once!

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HP Boston 05.06.09 at 1:47 pm

Asian4Hillary 05.06.09 at 1:39 pm

BTW Zee, you CAN fool others, you don’t fool me. I’ve seen the likes of you many time over.

——————–A4hillay
Zee is a Democratic she is infact a voice of reason. I have met her, as has Dances, Murphy, MK, Pumabear, Persephone, Taggles,Lorna, Mama Puma,joygoknocks and deadgirl.
We know she is not FBI! CIA! Homeland Security! or an OBOT!!

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Asian4Hillary 05.06.09 at 1:52 pm

HP Boston

TY for the info. I’m no longer a Democrat, therefor, like others who left PUMA I don’t belong here anymore.

Thank you everyone.

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Delle 05.06.09 at 1:53 pm

As a history enthusiast – I don’t dare call myself an expert – I believe that Asian #50 and Zee #54 are both incorrect.

Our Constitution began to be torn apart during the administration of Woodrow Wilson.

He ratifed the income tax.

He attempted a world government with his League of Nations, which failed.

His comrade-in-chief Cnl House, started the CFL.

House also founded – in secrecy – the fedral reserve.

The effects of his interference in our republic are still being felt.

Not to disagree with all of your comments, but this destruction of our rights goes way beong the last eight years.

We can’t blame Bush for everything!

Delle

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TexasTigress 05.06.09 at 1:53 pm

is joygoknocks related to gojoyknocks ? I wonder if they know about this … Perhaps seperated at birth only to be reunited right here !!! wow puma is awesome !

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Zee 05.06.09 at 1:53 pm

Thanks, HP…I’m all for undermining the Dem party…from within!

That is the way the Republicans regained power when they were on the outs, and it’s a good blueprint regardless of ideology.

Being an “independent” solves nothing…by time an “independent” goes into a voting booth, the dem and repub parties have already installed their choices.

We need to work on a more grassroots way to implement change.

btw, on the gender first front, a woman is running for governor of California, and has a website up called MEGA-women.

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Zee 05.06.09 at 1:54 pm

Wow!!!! Persephone! I get it now! Nice nym.

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DancesWithPumas 05.06.09 at 1:56 pm

Zee
Meg Whitman, of eBay fame

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Zee 05.06.09 at 1:58 pm

Delle, see my post about President Adams. I was referring to the changes under the Patriot Act, but of course, it’s nothing new.

My point is we can undo any of the changes we set forth to. The Constitution was designed to change with the needs of the times. And some of the changes are fantastic! Such as the vote for women. So, if they’re not, work to change that particular aberration.

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HP Boston 05.06.09 at 1:58 pm

or do we?

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HP Boston 05.06.09 at 2:02 pm

Asian4Hillary 05.06.09 at 1:52 pm

HP Boston

TY for the info. I’m no longer a Democrat, therefor, like others who left PUMA I don’t belong here anymore.

Thank you everyone.

———————————
A4hillary I AM NOT A DEMOCRAT ANYMORE EITHER!!
I do not believe as Zee that they are worth a shit, but she does…I am glad she is not a Republican…….

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simofish 05.06.09 at 2:02 pm

WOW – admin #86

I hope all the PEOPLE see this for what it is. A negotiation for power, greed and to SCREW the people. That’s all this is about. SELF FUCKING INTEREST.

Assholes.

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HP Boston 05.06.09 at 2:05 pm

95
TexasTigress 05.06.09 at 1:53 pm

is joygoknocks related to gojoyknocks ? I wonder if they know about this … Perhaps seperated at birth only to be reunited right here !!! wow puma is awesome !

———————————–
Yup they are step sisters…..go is much nicer than joy…

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scarlet 05.06.09 at 2:08 pm

Act now to stop Wisconsin Chrysler jobs from going to Mexico

People’s Weekly World Newspaper, 05/06/09 08:49

Original source: AFL-CIO Now

The Wisconsin State AFL-CIO has issued an urgent appeal for workers across the country to write President Obama urging him to stop Chrysler from shutting down an engine plant in Kenosha, Wis., and shipping the 800 jobs to Mexico.

Workers and supporters from the Kenosha community rallied yesterday at the local UAW hall to protest the closing. Adding insult to injury, these 800 jobs are being exported as part of a taxpayer funded bailout, according to the state federation.

The state federation is asking that you act today and copy and send the following message to President Obama by e-mail or regular mail:

http://www.pww.org/article/articleview/15511/

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gay gal 05.06.09 at 2:11 pm

I don’t tend toward offering “praise” too often, but I do want to thank you, Zee. I don’t always agree with your approach in confronting the right wing talking points. (But then, again, I get called “mean” occasionally too. LOL BillieJo) You took on a difficult task, and IMO it is helping the movement as a whole.

I think there is much greater force as a movement in pushing The Hypocrite in Chief from the left. For one, that is primarily who many of us are. We are just being ourselves also. Those left democrats and independents who saw BO for the fraud that he is, are really our last greatest hope.

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Delle 05.06.09 at 2:11 pm

Zee #99

Of course those changes – end of slavery – womens’ voting rights, etc – were great.

But they were added as amendments to the Bill of Rights of our constitution.

What I see happening now is merely a power grab and a total disregard to the rules set out by our founders.

Delle

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HP Boston 05.06.09 at 2:12 pm

scarlet 05.06.09 at 2:08 pm

Act now to stop Wisconsin Chrysler jobs from going to Mexico
——————————–
See Zee the democrats are not worth a shit these days….the are on a deliberate path of destruction………

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MKfromLA 05.06.09 at 2:15 pm

From the Christian Science Monitor opinion –

Forget tea parties. Bring a pitchfork to a shareholder meeting.

Those Tea Party people are right to rage. But they’re reenacting the wrong revolution. When Louis XV’s war debts drove France into bankruptcy, people chafed at taxation, yes – but also railed at an impaired financial system, high unemployment, scarce services for war veterans, conspicuous consumption, and public detachment on the part of an entitled elite.

Anyone with a 401(k) or pension should visit at least one shareholder meeting this month with a pitchfork – or at least a plastic picnic fork – and demand accountability from the corporate elite, particularly in the financial sector, before they eat any more of your lunch.

Their “innovations” triggered a massive redistribution of wealth – upward.

http://www.csmonitor.com/2009/0505/p09s01-coop.html

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Zee 05.06.09 at 2:18 pm

Well, Neal Horsely is running for governor of Georgia.

Not sure which party, since the last time he ran he wanted to secede…

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neal_Horsley

Dems gave up the high ground, for sure…but “becoming” repubs or independents, etc, won’t hurt them. We have to field more candidates and work on a primary level…on both sides.

Look at how much traction Meghan McCain is making by saying that the Republicans have to change, too!!

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Zee 05.06.09 at 2:21 pm

oh yeah, MK, I am so on board with the pitchforks!!

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DancesWithPumas 05.06.09 at 2:21 pm

Thousands flee wildfire near Santa Barbara
1,200 homes evacuated due to blaze in Southern California foothills

Continued at, with photos:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30594933

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Zee 05.06.09 at 2:22 pm

And, omg…the French, they know how to protest. I wish I’d saved some of the links to the recent stories…damn.

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persephone 05.06.09 at 2:23 pm

Zee 05.06.09 at 1:54 pm

Wow!!!! Persephone! I get it now! Nice nym.

huh??
zee i have slow disease today-what do you mean?
(murphy calls me purse-ephone. not sure if she’s making fun of my love for Italian handbags or my profession, which involves money..:-)

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scarlet 05.06.09 at 2:24 pm

‘Green’ lightbulbs poison workers

Hundreds of factory staff are being made ill by mercury used in bulbs destined for the West

WHEN British consumers are compelled to buy energy-efficient lightbulbs from 2012, they will save up to 5m tons of carbon dioxide a year from being pumped into the atmosphere. In China, however, a heavy environmental price is being paid for the production of “green” lightbulbs in cost-cutting factories.

Large numbers of Chinese workers have been poisoned by mercury, which forms part of the compact fluorescent lightbulbs. A surge in foreign demand, set off by a European Union directive making these bulbs compulsory within three years, has also led to the reopening of mercury mines that have ruined the environment.

Making the bulbs requires workers to handle mercury in either solid or liquid form because a small amount of the metal is put into each bulb to start the chemical reaction that creates light.

Mercury is recognised as a health hazard by authorities worldwide because its accumulation in the body can damage the nervous system, lungs and kidneys, posing a particular threat to babies in the womb and young children.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article6211261.ece

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DancesWithPumas 05.06.09 at 2:25 pm

We need to figure out a way to attract Democrats who voted for obamination and are disgusted, majorly disappointed with him now.
I think we have more political positions in common with them, than we do with many others.

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Zee 05.06.09 at 2:26 pm

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2009/05/06/1924233.aspx

Maine is 5th state to recognize gay marriage! New England is leading the way…

=====

Persephone, it was probably me misremembering who I met at the PUMA meet-up. I was refering to the mythical icon Persephone, and perhaps mixing you up with someone who uses/used a similar nym here.

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persephone 05.06.09 at 2:26 pm

Ahem…speaking of WOMEN running for office…

I’m sending an email to all my friends, family, and blog buddies in FL
on behalf of PUMA Mimi Planas.

Please feel free to cut and paste any or all, for purposes of shaking down your loved ones :-)

here it is:

Subject: A personal message to my friends and family in Florida-please pass this on.

Dear Friends,

Can you spare just a moment?

There’s a woman running for office in your state-her name is Mimi Planas.

Mimi is running for Miami Dade County Commissioner, District 10.

I know that’s not your district-but please keep reading!

Mimi’s opponent has held this office since 1993-he is currently serving his 5th term!
It’s time for a change.

Click here for more info on the issues that are dear to Ms. Planas-and please note her “Open Door” policy, which will make her accessible to all constituents. How refreshing is that?

http://www.mimiplanas2010.com/Key_Issues.php

Let’s help this bright and qualified woman get elected.
We need more women like Mimi in all levels of government.

You can help by getting the word out.
Please forward this email to your friends and family.

Mimi’s opponent has a large campaign budget and he will use it to try and defeat her.

If you can make a donation of any amount, please do so here:

http://www.mimiplanas2010.com/

Let’s take back our government, one office at a time.

Thanks to all.

Persephone

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HP Boston 05.06.09 at 2:26 pm

Zee 05.06.09 at 2:18 pm

—————————
Nah Zee I AM not up to working for any Democrat ever…I will change back to Dem just to vote the primary encase a woman has a run then change back to Indy when the fixed election is over…I will never ever give a dime to any democrat work for or support the dnc either…….they do not need me they have plenty of money to elect who ever steals and lies and cheats bigger and better than the Republicans. If we get the public to hate Brand Obama as much as Bush the next puppet will be called a Republican and the beat goes on!

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DancesWithPumas 05.06.09 at 2:27 pm

persephone 05.06.09 at 2:23 pm
Zee 05.06.09 at 1:54 pm
———–
I’m partial to Polopony (Polop-ony … fractured pronunciation of Polo Pony), myself.

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Zee 05.06.09 at 2:28 pm

So, scarlet…#114.

What are you saying? Are you saying that China needs to protect its workers?

Or are you saying that somehow the “green” movement toward environmentally sound products is somehow to blame?

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persephone 05.06.09 at 2:30 pm

Zee-that was me you met at murphy’s! We talked about doing a radio show.

The Persephone myth holds a lot of meaning for me-and I got a little paranoid using my real name here. Someone tracked me down on a professional networking website-nothing crazy but it made me rethink the blog handle.

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MKfromLA 05.06.09 at 2:30 pm

speaking of China manufacturing, there’s an interesting post at PatriotDems

http://patriotdems.wordpress.com/2009/05/05/its-about-oil-part-iii-china-invades-africa/

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persephone 05.06.09 at 2:32 pm

thanks a lot dances but that sounds like polyp-which is a wart or a growth, right? eww! :razz:

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HP Boston 05.06.09 at 2:34 pm

persephone 05.06.09 at 2:26 pm

Ahem…speaking of WOMEN running for office…

MURPHY!!!
Here is your campaign manager!!!! Pursephone

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BillieJo 05.06.09 at 2:36 pm

Asian4Hillary 05.06.09 at 1:52 pm

HP Boston

TY for the info. I’m no longer a Democrat, therefor, like others who left PUMA I don’t belong here anymore.

Thank you everyone.
———–
I am not part of the pile up and don’t fall for the bs.

Don’t thank me.

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Zee 05.06.09 at 2:37 pm

Ah! I see, Persephone! I thought there must’ve been a nym-change, but I got confused who might’ve adopted this nym. Got it.

And yes, I think your post #117 shows the way. More women running for office. That trumps all, and takes care of the problems we might have with either the “dem” or “repub” label.

I posted a link this morning to an excellent interview with Justice Ginsburg saying how much she missed Sandra Day O’Connor, despite their ideological differences, because the women on the bench simply “got” things that the rest of the men didn’t.

And Meghan McCain is getting trounced for saying that the Republican party has to move forward:

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn…irty-moderates/
(CNN) — Meghan McCain, daughter of former Republican presidential candidate John McCain, said the GOP is going to have to become more inclusive if it wants to rebuild.

“I just wish that moderates like myself — more moderate Republicans and more socially liberal Republicans — weren’t looked at as, ‘Get rid of the dirty moderates. Get rid of them,’” the 24-year-old told CNN affiliate KTAR radio in a joint interview with her father.

====

So I’m all for moving both parties forward, from within. And it’s going to be women doing it.

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GOSUEF4HIL 05.06.09 at 2:39 pm

Murphy- great lead-in-

I am just now getting on today and have not read all the links but saw this on CNN before coming here- the DNC is also responsible for this Brand Obama- I understand that Ed Rendell told Specter he would make sure Specter had no one to face in the primaries-

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/05/06/specter.seniority/index.html

I cannot believe I stood behind this party for so many years- they are not a bit better than the republicans

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HP Boston 05.06.09 at 2:43 pm

MKfromLA 05.06.09 at 2:30 pm

speaking of China manufacturing, there’s an interesting post at PatriotDems
———————-
Wow that is mind boggling…..China has us by the short hairs too…..

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Zee 05.06.09 at 2:46 pm

#105 gaygal…thanks back atya.

Much of the so-called left is still in denial. They will get horrified over something or other Obama does….but still consider each time an aberration.

I don’t know if they will ever admit getting duped…and I’m not sure how much pressure they can apply to the Obama Brand.

His first Supreme pick will tell us more…I’m prepared to be disappointed…but he may throw us a bone if there is some uptick for him in it.

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Delle 05.06.09 at 2:47 pm

In her opening comments, Murphy asks – ‘Are There Americans Who Believe That Obama Cares About Them”?

Well, let me tell you about a phone call I just received.

It was my aunt on the other end.

She is in her late seventies and lives on Social Security.

My aunt called because she was so excited about the check she received in the mail this day.

A check for $250.00!

It was from the Treasury Department and was a gift (as far as she is concerned) from this wonderful president.

Part of the stimulus, I presume.

I asked her what she thought about COLA, but she had no idea what I was talking about.

She could only blabber on about what a great and caring man we have now in the WH and how happy she is that he was elected.

So, we can’t get through to some people.

They are as infatuated with Barry as a teen age girl is infautated with her first crush.

Hopeless!

Delle

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BillieJo 05.06.09 at 2:49 pm

Looks like Arnie is trying to win over obots in our state, it was the most talked about issue on the anointed one’s website:

Governor asks: What if pot’s legal and taxed?

http://www.sacbee.com/topstories/story/1837124.html

On the local news they said Arnie wants to add a $50 state tax to each oz and open up the discussion. Tries to win young obot votes???
Arnie, don’t forget Calif. voted for legal medical Mary Jane years ago and the Feds still bust the places all the time.
Maybe obie the bong President will help you?

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Zee 05.06.09 at 2:50 pm

“I will change back to Dem just to vote the primary encase a woman has a run then change back to Indy when the fixed election is over…”

That’s a good plan, HP, and it would work to help any Meghan McCain/Palin republican women in the primaries, too. Because we’re going to have to change the parties from within.

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antifish 05.06.09 at 2:55 pm

I cannot, in good conscience, consider myself a Democrat. The hatchet-job that was done on Specter’s seniority is just one example of why. The aberration in the guise of a Primary which most of us participated in last year is the other.

I once believed in this party and considered many of its leaders my heroes, but I saw their true colors. These people don’t care what I think, don’t care about democracy, and are bereft of character and principles. They are there solely to amass personal wealth and power.

Obama was chosen to represent them BECAUSE he was a neophyte. They didn’t want someone like Hillary Clinton who knew the ropes and could outmaneuver them. Someone who they knew would challenge the status quo (remember that code word used by Obama AND the philandering Johnny against Hillary?). I can laugh at the gullible sheep who voted for him, but I get no pleasure from it because I suffer their foolery.

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HP Boston 05.06.09 at 2:56 pm

Delle 05.06.09 at 2:47 pm

In her opening comments, Murphy asks – ‘Are There Americans Who Believe That Obama Cares About Them”?

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Tell her she will be taxed on that $250.00 long after she has spent it. Also tell her she gets no COLA next year or the year after and then capped at 1.48%…………in 2012

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persephone 05.06.09 at 2:57 pm

Delle!
call your aunt back and ask her

1. if she knows how much the effing banks got
2. if she knows her SS payment may be decreased in the near future!

250 bucks-BFD!!

GRRRRRR!!!!!

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KerryLINY 05.06.09 at 2:58 pm

hello PUMAs. Missed being home.
Great article. I believe political pressure can sometimes make BO do the right thing – such as abandoning his continuation of the resource-wasting wars, prosecuting those who brak American laws, and actually do the right thing with the health insurance problem that is hampering the middle class and small businesses.

This recent news on health insurance front. Some dems might finally stand up to him on this one.

WASHINGTON – Health insurance companies, facing the threat of a government health plan, offered on Tuesday to reduce rates for millions of women and accept close federal regulation of their industry.

The higher premiums now affect 5.7 million women, many of them self-employed people who must buy their own coverage.

The industry is trying to head off creation of a government health plan that would compete with them to enroll middle-class workers and their families.

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antifish 05.06.09 at 3:01 pm

#136 Kerry,

Sorry, I don’t share your glee. Just as I anticipated, Health Care industry lobbyists will write the health care reform bill just as they did the Medicare bill under Bush. How did that work out? …And, more importantly, where’s the change?

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Zee 05.06.09 at 3:04 pm

HP, just to clarify…I thought it could get no worse than the last 8 years, but this past election was far, far worse.

But that doesn’t mean I’m suddenly going to become rightwing. There are those who are preying on homeless former Dems, thinking they can bombard the place with rightwing sources…but the enemy of my enemy is not necessarily my friend. Most of those rightwing sources (and many of the left, too!) have just as bad if not worse things to say about Hillary.

Maybe we need an interim term, like Femocrats, who knows?

But, thanks to that horrible election season last year, it’s not just democratic women who are fed up and speaking out. I stand solidly beside Sarah Palin and Meghan McCain as well.

Women aren’t a “special interest group.” We’re the majority.

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BillieJo 05.06.09 at 3:05 pm

antifish 05.06.09 at 2:55 pm

I cannot, in good conscience, consider myself a Democrat. The hatchet-job that was done on Specter’s seniority is just one example of why. The aberration in the guise of a Primary which most of us participated in last year is the other. ——
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I agree with you Anti -
The New Democratic party of smoke and mirrors is a joke that I can’t defend at all. I am only glad Obama is in for the stem cell research and a few other issues that will help everyone.
My real concern is not people on the blog saying something against the Democrats, it’s this………

What if both the Democratic Party and the Republican Party have always been a scam to get votes……….and I just became aware of it.

What if Hillary or someone of her caliber never runs again in my life time and we are stuck with the smoke and mirrors of deception.

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Delle 05.06.09 at 3:07 pm

#134 and #135

I tried.

I truly tried to talk some sense to my aunt.

As I said – I just couldn’t get through.

She is infatuated with this man in the WH.

Unfortunately, there are many more like her.

Delle

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Zee 05.06.09 at 3:08 pm

Hey Kerry!

Well, I doubt it will budge him, but Zero is getting some pressure from the left: CODEPink is continuing their peace protests and give Obama a poor grade on these points:

*He has fudged on the timeline of bringing the troops out of Iraq.

*He has deployed unmanned drones into Pakistan, killing over 800 innocent civilians compared to 14 Al Qaeda leaders and creating tens of thousands of people who are angry and full of revenge against the US.

*He has moved thousands more troops to Afghanistan against the counsel of military generals and those who live in Afghanistan.

*The Defense budget is larger than under Bush and he is requesting an $87 billion dollar supplemental for wars after saying he didn’t want to separate Iraq and Afghanistan from the regular budget.
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Just some tidbits people can throw back at Obots, as needed.

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Zee 05.06.09 at 3:11 pm

“What if Hillary or someone of her caliber never runs again in my life time and we are stuck with the smoke and mirrors of deception.”

BilliJo, that is a distinct possibility unless we change the way elections are *covered.* And primaries. Primaries are key.

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admin 05.06.09 at 3:11 pm

PROWL posted,

take it upstairs!

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antifish 05.06.09 at 3:13 pm

BillieJo,

What if both the Democratic Party and the Republican Party have always been a scam to get votes……….and I just became aware of it.

What if Hillary or someone of her caliber never runs again in my life time and we are stuck with the smoke and mirrors of deception.
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Yep, the more I learn about politics, the more I believe we are all just being played.

This party will use these issues and that party will use those and let’s see how many fools we can catch with the bait. It doesn’t matter which one wins because we are all best buds up here in the congress. We’ll just show up and put on our partisan soap opera each day and meet for dinner and drinks after work.

Sadly, it’s highly likely that we will not see another candidate like Hillary in our lifetimes, BillieJo.

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admin 05.06.09 at 3:16 pm

btw, NICE one persephone #117

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HP Boston 05.06.09 at 3:21 pm

Zee 05.06.09 at 2:50 pm

“I will change back to Dem just to vote the primary encase a woman has a run then change back to Indy when the fixed election is over…”

That’s a good plan, HP, and it would work to help any Meghan McCain/Palin republican women in the primaries, too. Because we’re going to have to change the parties from within.

“Because we’re going to have to change the parties from within.”

You keep saying that Zee but I am not convinced we can……

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HP Boston 05.06.09 at 3:32 pm

18 million votes and we got screwed………why bother!

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Zee 05.06.09 at 3:33 pm

HP, all we can do…as you suggested, and as Persephone outlined in her help with a specific woman candidate in post #117…is make progress to the good when and where we can.

You know, Zero went out of his way to undermine two women of color challengers in two different states last year…Georgia and Texas. He backed their establishment male Dem opponents.

It hurts Zero and it hurts establishment Dems *more* to go the route of backing the women challengers than it does to become an “Independent” —altho there is nothing wrong in and of itself to be or become an independent.

And this works on both major parties. Meghan McCain is being attacked for saying that her party has to evolve and move forward.

We need to support all these women.

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Zee 05.06.09 at 3:35 pm

Why bother…because there is more than one way, HP, to vote the bastards out.

We need a pitchfork campaign to pitch ALL the bastards out, starting at the primary level. It can be a bipartisan effort.

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