Ok, Mr. Obama. Then tell us please, in addressing foreign relations, national security, and global trade, what, exactly ARE your priorities?
According to your own words and actions:
HUMAN RIGHTS IS NOT A PRIORITY
How this will affect your policies?
1. Foreign Relations: no expectations for countries like Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iraq, China, Saudi Arabia, and Syria to commit to ending specific, egregious abuses (including torture, mass killings, forced sterilization, and of course brutal gender apartheid) in exchange for meaningful negotiations with the United States
2. National Security: Wiretapping American citizens without warrants; Spying on American citizens without warrants; Secret detentions of American citizens.
3. Global Trade: Serious and measurable efforts to end human trafficking, human slavery, including the sexual enslavement of children for mostly Western male “masters,” will NOT be a pre-condition of entering and renegotiating trade agreements with Asia, Africa, or Eastern Europe.
It is very simple. If the people of the United States, as a whole, disapprove of slavery, gender apartheid, torture, and mass killings (as we, obviously, DO) then our government has two options:
1. Isolate completely from the worst offending countries — no diplomatic, economic, or political ties whatsoever. Such as how we treat North Korea, Iran, and Cuba.
2. Negotiate WITH CONDITIONS. If the United States’ bargaining position is SO WEAK that we cannot extract ANY measures to curb oppression, torture, and apartheid in Asia and the Muslim world then why the hell are we at the table in the first place? Shouldn’t we be regrouping, rebuilding, and preparing to negotiate from a position of strength? Why is the United States purposefully engaging these countries with our tail between our legs? What possible good can come of negotiating from a position of weakness?
Obama’s negotitiating skills are so pathetic it has moved beyond a national embarrassment to a national tragedy. John McCain, Joe Biden, and Hillary Clinton were CORRECT during the primaries. Each of them chided obama for his utter ignorance about dealing with the bad guys.
Obama will never move the hearts and minds of Muslims committed to Islamic rule in their countries. And if he does, at what cost to America’s values and integrity? There ARE no moderate Islamic states. There may be moderate individual Muslims; there are certainly secular Muslims, reform-minded Muslims, and peaceful Muslims. But that’s a straw man argument. The existence of a minority of relatively moderate individual people spread across the globe in various countries is irrelevant to how the United States formally treats with the governments of Afghanistan, North Korea, Uganda, Palestine, Saudi Arabia, and Iran. Negotiating with those countries by dismissing human rights as an “ideal” is exactly the same level of evil as allying or negotiating with Apartheid-ruled South Africa.
If Obama chooses to sweep human rights off the table in order to make friends with Afghanistan, Pakistan, and the Middle East that would be pretend peace — and a peace at too high a cost. Islamic fundamentalists BELIEVE in their way of life. They are not going to moderate it. If anything, Obama’s blundering admission that human rights are not important to the United States will EMBOLDEN them to pass more laws oppressive to women, to FURTHER restrict individual rights in their countries, and to EXPAND the tyrannical reach of their blood-thirsty imams.
With friends like that I’d rather have enemies.




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vwade 04.09.09 at 10:11 am
It is just astounding that no one calls him on these horrific statements. Of course, I should be used to it by now, after what we all saw during the primaries and general election. I sometimes feel that I will wake up from this nightmare and everything will be back to normal and Hillary will be on TV giving her State of the Union address. Sigh, oh, well, hopefully someone with name recognition will confront his ass someday.
vwade 04.09.09 at 10:12 am
Get out of town….I’m first?
mimi1020 04.09.09 at 10:13 am
DancesWithPumas 04.09.09 at 9:51 am
You are correct. Here, here….Thanks
persephone 04.09.09 at 9:51 am ….
I will look into that. I have had a few problems w/ my site
but it whould be ok now. Thanks for your support!
persephone 04.09.09 at 10:16 am
Bravo, murphy-great post.
There is no such thing as “Moderate Islam.”
Even Obama the clueless knows better.
DancesWithPumas 04.09.09 at 10:18 am
Commish…
Mimi,
can we donate to your campign via PayPal.
There seems to be some confusion.
persephone 04.09.09 at 10:19 am
mimi
I’ll try signing up again.
I’m hoping to send your info to friends and family in FL
Don’t be distracted or disheartened by the slandering freaks-they don’t have the power to harm your campaign and aren’t worth your time.
As the Brits are fond of saying, Onward and Upward!
DancesWithPumas 04.09.09 at 10:19 am
Persephone
I always thought, if I had a daughter I would name her Persephone… as long as I didn’t have to be Demeter.
HP Boston 04.09.09 at 10:19 am
Here comes the sucker punch!
Obama to Tackle Immigration Reform This Year:
Report
NYT: Legalizing Status of Millions of Illegal Immigrants Is a Possibility.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=7295001
NewOrleansPuma 04.09.09 at 10:21 am
Murphy: This is an excellent post and summary of the Fraud.
He rode the backs of the human rights issue when he needed it in the campaigns..both of them…he used the cover of racial injustice when he needed it…wrung it out…with the diligence of a wash woman wringing wet towels before hanging them on the clothes line…now..in true Alynsky fashion…he will wring the last from us in service to those who are pulling his marionette strings. He is a “facilitator”. Clearly in these two months
we see for whom he is facilitating…Take your pick.
They are Legion…For me…I see nothing within the interest of this Republic that is being facilited. Every day in every way..the dissembling of the Republic continues.
And your post above is one more collection of example ..thought and conclusion that reveals that reality.
vwade 04.09.09 at 10:23 am
I will be more than ready to support a third party candidate when election time rolls around again. I just can’t face the fact that the Democratic Party used to be MY party and I will never cross over to the dark side(Republican Party). Although, I must admit the Republicans probably have more issues I agree with them on, all the politician’s make me sick right now.
The sad part is, in years past, all Americans would be outraged with what’s going on, but now there is so much apathy and self-loathing that it’s easier for people to give up and not fight. Or, for those paranoid,twisted souls that got into government conspirousy and protest, now they just blow their family, or a group of strangers away. Every day, someone is wiping out entire families. I wish I could have a drink, but I’m at work.
NewOrleansPuma 04.09.09 at 10:24 am
correction…within the interest of this Republic that is being facilitated…
DancesWithPumas 04.09.09 at 10:24 am
Murphy
EXCELLENT post!!
Most excellent.
Thank you…again, and again, and again.
mimi1020 04.09.09 at 10:28 am
DancesWithPumas 04.09.09 at 10:18 am
yes, that is correct. That button should be up in another week. Ufortunately, they ask a lot of us as far as confirmations since it is a campaign account. Will definitely keep you posted.
persephone 04.09.09 at 10:19 am
Yes, please do. And, thanks for your kind words.
I would love your support from your friends in Florida. i will definitely keep you posted.
Thanks!
murphy 04.09.09 at 10:29 am
inspired by your image dwp –
(enraged and inspired, but nevertheless — if anything good can come of it . . .)
HP — first thing I read this morning. NOP must be rubbing off on me because my first reaction was a sinking realization that he’s doing this ON PURPOSE. His aim is to IGNITE prejudices, hatred, and fears . . .
very very ugly.
murphy 04.09.09 at 10:30 am
mimi– ignore the haters. they are utterly and completely impotent.
seriously.
i mean IGNORE them completely.
vwade 04.09.09 at 10:30 am
Actually Murphy, I surprised you haven’t been strong-armed and this site hasn’t been messed with more. Your post hits the spot every time. When I want REAL news, I come here. This is the only HONEST news I get.
I think that’s the game. They want to keep people ignorant and give them fluff so they won’t notice nor care about what’s being taken from us.
Here’s to you Murph and all PUMAS. Keep putting the screws to them.
NewOrleansPuma 04.09.09 at 10:34 am
14Murphy: Ha..I am not rubbing off on you…reality and your perception of it is revealing what you say…and under these circumstances..because of that reality…I herewith …agree that in this situtation…Thank
God…all reality is not eternal!!!
persephone 04.09.09 at 10:34 am
Obama would love to grant amnesty to illegals.
He’s creating a voter base for himself that will for the most part not be affected by the inevitable tax increases the rest of us will be hit with.
The voting majority will not be the taxpaying majority if he gets his way on this one. And that is cause for alarm.
persephone 04.09.09 at 10:35 am
*standing on head trying to get HP’s attention*
Hi HP, it’s your cupcake loving neighbor here-had to change my blogging name shhhhh….
{{{HP}}}
mimi1020 04.09.09 at 10:41 am
Murphy,
You’re right….moving on…..
vwade 04.09.09 at 10:42 am
Here in Colorado, people are pissed about the lack of any action on immigration reform. They tried to pass in-state tuition for illegals and it luckily was defeated. Mainly defeated because people overwhelmingly were against it in the news polls they took. People want this problem dealt with. Look at California and see why they are in such a sad shape economically.
HP Boston 04.09.09 at 10:46 am
I was astounded to see this pic this morning. I had a visual of his women covered in his human rights remains!
Logged on and there it was, thanks!!!
HP Boston 04.09.09 at 10:49 am
persephone 04.09.09 at 10:35 am
*standing on head trying to get HP’s attention*
Hi HP, it’s your cupcake loving neighbor here-had to change my blogging name shhhhh….
{{{HP}}}
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You hot shit!! Got shoes?? Was going there to shoe shop but hubbys suv died, so I LET him take my car to work…
NewOrleansPuma 04.09.09 at 10:50 am
18persephone: I was your mother one Mardi Gras…I have not yet been you …perhaps because I did not want to hang in the underground for so long a time…but who knows…given the circumstances of the country…I may in fact be you next Mardi Gras…longing for the underground with Puma friends.
Obama will grant amnesty to illegal immigrants…and with that he will have facilitated more than one of his Alynsky models for totally..not partially…totally dissembling the Republic.
murphy 04.09.09 at 10:53 am
I think I got your Holy Spirit zap NOP!
FLBarbara 04.09.09 at 10:55 am
Murphy,
Bravo,your getting a standing ovation for this one.
I have been told you know you have found your passion, your purpose in life when you hear your heart sing when you speak about it.
I hear your heart singing Murphy when you speak about
“Womens rights are human rights” HRC and it is truly inspiring.
Thank You
NewOrleansPuma 04.09.09 at 10:55 am
#25Murphy: Alright…sounds good. I am now off to do some other work..hoping for a few zaps myself!
Onward you mighty Celt! bbl
persephone 04.09.09 at 10:57 am
HP I just realized I have your email addy! sending you a note right now.
FLBarbara 04.09.09 at 11:00 am
Dances,
Once again you nailed that photo.
I was thinking of a saying
One out of Five residents in the White House have equal rights ( Michels mom) and using a photo like that..
Very powerful photo Dances..Thanks
murphy 04.09.09 at 11:00 am
persephone, amen.
my point is — enough with the trying to bait us with straw man arguments. Are there moderate muslim people? OF COURSE THERE ARE! Are there peace-loving muslims who are disturbed by the fundamentalists? OF COURSE THERE ARE! does that matter one pin?
NOPE — it’s IRRELEVANT. Just like there are fundamentalist Christians of such virulent bigotry and hate that all decent and true Americans are repulsed by them. Yep, there are. Lots of them in some places. But those freaks ARE NOT dictating the domestic or foreign policy of our country. They are NOT in charge. They will NEVER be in charge as long as the rest of us keep doing all we can to keep them as isolated a minority as possible.
Which we will do.
Even the most right-wing, fundamentalist members of Congress are tame in comparison to the REAL fundies.
So I dont give two figs that there is a small, diffuse minority of moderate muslim individuals. I’m glad they exist — I support them mentally — but that has NOTHING TO DO WITH how the official US government treats with the official governments of Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iran, and Iraq.
tec1965 04.09.09 at 11:09 am
hi pumas , according to jerome corsi’s red alert obama has sold out all major us corps to thre g 20
looks like the new world order is here and were fucked
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=94331
HP Boston 04.09.09 at 11:19 am
murphy 04.09.09 at 11:00 am
++++++++++++++++++
Awesome! That is it in a nutshell……not a nut or a rant.
Murphy you see what I see, the good, the bad, and the ugly.
What the hell are we going to do about the UGLY??
Islam sucks………
murphy 04.09.09 at 11:48 am
the british official who resigned immediately after an embarrassing and serious gaffe earns my respect:
“Bob Quick resigned after being photographed, above, carrying in plain view a secret document that outlined details of a major antiterrorism operation.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/10/world/europe/10britain.html?hp
MKfromLA 04.09.09 at 12:05 pm
great post Murphy. thank you
great image DWP – it says it all – thank you too
In the last thread Persephone provided a link to an article
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2009/04/womens_rights_as_a_measure_of.html
“Women’s Rights as a Measure of Civilization”
Texas Tigress pointed out her distrust of articles on feminism written by men. I also distrust the article for another reason – it seems like another example of claiming ownership of women’s issues, for the purpose of directing, deflecting and defusing women’s anger. From TNA to Obama’s old boy advisory group on Women and Girls, to conservative “feminist” blogs such as http://degreesofmoderation.blogspot.com/
The above article opens with the flogging of the Pakistani girl by the Taliban. Here then are a couple of points the author wishes to make -
“One would think that this point would be a central tenet of the feminists, but if you look around you will find that this point is being made mostly loudly and forcefully today by the non-feminist right…
“Yet the political right does deserve credit for taking up this cause..
BillieJo 04.09.09 at 12:06 pm
Jeeze, we would never see a post up top like this one with Madam President Hillary Rodham Clinton in charge.
I have to say, I have not been shocked by anything O’jackass has done so far. We saw this asshole in action a year ago, the only surprise I have is how quickly he has fucked things up in this country!!!
Mornin’ PUMAs, pass the kool-aid, it’s another day in the neighborhood.
bmwf61 04.09.09 at 12:09 pm
Thanks Murphy… I appreciate your not allowing my comment and youtube vidoe…
DancesWithPumas 04.09.09 at 12:12 pm
Just to note:
In most cases, and within certain contexts, when I read “non-feminist”, I am reminded of this post by PumaPAC’s Admin:
admin 01.31.09 at 9:48 pm
if you’re not a feminist then you are the moral equivalent of a racist.
if you’re not a feminist then you are, by definition, a sexist, or to keep it simple since EVERYONE knows that being a racist is bad, you might as well be a racist in my book.
non-feminists, like racists, have a right to their opinions and freedom of speech and all that great stuff, but they’re asshole losers who dont deserve to be listened to, respected, or treated with politeness.
murphy 04.09.09 at 12:14 pm
why thanks for the reminder dwp!
that Admin person sure is smart!
BillieJo 04.09.09 at 12:15 pm
Hahahahaha,
Was it a dip or a bow?
Dipping low to shake hand………………let’s make up a new dictionary for the progressives.
How about, ‘Dip Sticks!”
The White House is denying that the president bowed to King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia at a G-20 meeting in London, a scene that drew criticism on the right and praise from some Arab outlets.
“It wasn’t a bow. He grasped his hand with two hands, and he’s taller than King Abdullah,” said an Obama aide, who spoke on the condition of anonymity.
The Washington Times called the alleged bow a “shocking display of fealty to a foreign potentate” and said it violated centuries of American tradition of not deferring to royalty. The Weekly Standard, meanwhile, noted that American protocol apparently rules out bowing, or at least it reportedly did on the occasion of a Clinton “near-bow” to the emperor of Japan.
Interestingly, a columnist in the Saudi-backed Arabic paper Asharq Alawsat also took the gesture as a bow and appreciated the move.
“Obama wished to demonstrate his respect and appreciation of the personality of King Abdullah Bin Abdulaziz, who has made one of the most important calls in the modern era, namely the call for inter-faith and inter-cultural dialogue to defuse the hatred, conflict and wars,” wrote the columnist, Muhammah Diyab.
The video shows Obama dipping toward the king as G-20 leaders greet one another at the ExCel Centre in London.
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0409/White_House_No_bow_to_Saudi.html
taggles1 04.09.09 at 12:16 pm
This is a really great post!
this guy seems to be able to say some of the most gregious
things. Anyone else would be lampooned for uttering this garbage.
DancesWithPumas 04.09.09 at 12:16 pm
that Admin person sure is smart!
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smartBrilliant.persephone 04.09.09 at 12:17 pm
Hi MK
The best thing about the article I linked to?
the TITLE!
It’s good to see Women’s rights and *civilization* (or lack thereof) being linked.
This flies in the face of political correctness, not to mention the bullshit Obama’s been touting in his world tour.
The writer also says:
As for the right, I detect in their recent interest in women’s rights a quest for a kind of payback against the left. Having been vilified for decades as a bunch of a male chauvinist pigs who are opposed to the rights of women (which they have been, when it comes to abortion and some forms of contraception)..
I agree, but I also think there are plenty of male chauvinist pigs on the left too.
Male chauvinist pigs come in all stripes and political affiliations, as we know after last year’s primary and presidential election..
Right now many on the extreme left think Islam is just wonderful.
Islam sucks.
DancesWithPumas 04.09.09 at 12:21 pm
“Dipping”
LOL Omg!!
“dipping”……lololol
BillieJo, you got it right…Dipsticks.
DancesWithPumas 04.09.09 at 12:29 pm
BillieJo
What happened to the excuse that olyinthief was bending over to shake teh hand of a short man??
Reminds my of wetbrainBush…and his manure about flying off to hide in some Kansas cornfield on 9/11. Their lie about AF-1 being chased by enemy planes.
Freaks.
HP Boston 04.09.09 at 12:32 pm
murphy 04.09.09 at 12:14 pm
why thanks for the reminder dwp!
that Admin person sure is smart!
SHE SURE IS! I gotta tell you Puma People, I met her, I watched her as she calmly listened to 5 different view points at the same time. Minor chaos around us and she gave insight along with hospitality and leadership. You would be hard pressed to find another woman with the guts to handle Zee, dwp, me the ghost Cataria, PumaBear, MKLA, gojoy,deadgirl, Lorna, Taggles and her MamaPuma!
I was impressed….she is the best feminist I ever met.
PUMAbear 04.09.09 at 12:34 pm
Great going Murphy and DWP.
Without human rights there is nothing. That was my point in stressing Indonesia as a moral backdrop for Obama’s psychological development. He learned that everthing is relative as long as those in power get the contrl they need.
The right attacks BO’s positions because they want to steer the ship of state. What’s really worrying is that the fauxgressives are tongue tied about issues that used to send them into a rage.Getting This horrible sellout is the worst possible act of cynicism-like putting clarence thomas in a seat held by Marshall(small example) the worst of getting what you wished for.
DancesWithPumas 04.09.09 at 12:37 pm
Getting This horrible sellout is the worst possible act of cynicism-like putting clarence thomas in a seat held by Marshall (small example) the worst of getting what you wished for.
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Eggszactly!!!
HP Boston 04.09.09 at 12:38 pm
, me, the ghost Cataria,
What ever happen to that dimwit????????
taggles1 04.09.09 at 12:38 pm
hey Dances!
taggles1 04.09.09 at 12:39 pm
hey pumabear, hey hp, hey mk, persophone (have we met?)
taggles1 04.09.09 at 12:39 pm
and HEY! BilliJoe!
MKfromLA 04.09.09 at 12:40 pm
#42 persephone
yup plenty of pigs to go around, both right & left. As we know oh so well, neither party champions puma values. Instead, feminists as marketing opportunity. What a twofer. Reach out to a self-selecting voting base, and keep that locomotive from becoming a runaway train.
DancesWithPumas 04.09.09 at 12:41 pm
vwade 04.09.09 at 10:12 am
Get out of town….I’m first?
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LOL VWade … love that “get out of town” expression. Congratulations on being FIRST!
Hiya, Taggles!
HP Boston 04.09.09 at 12:42 pm
Good morning to ya PumAbear, thanks for another good post.
Must check out your site.
MKfromLA 04.09.09 at 12:43 pm
hi taggles, it’s always good when you’re around
persephone 04.09.09 at 12:43 pm
taggles1 04.09.09 at 12:39 pm
they pumabear, hey hp, hey mk, persophone (have we met?)
yes!
MKfromLA 04.09.09 at 12:44 pm
oh, and (((((HPboston)))))
and can’t forget ((((((((((PUMAbear))))))))))
DancesWithPumas 04.09.09 at 12:45 pm
Yo, MK
what am I, chopped liver??
persephone 04.09.09 at 12:45 pm
Is anyone from PUMA pac participating in the discussion at the Confluence about the direction PUMA should take?
I feel like going over and spamming them with links to here
MKfromLA 04.09.09 at 12:45 pm
persephone have we met too? if so plz send me via DWP the secret decoder ring
persephone 04.09.09 at 12:46 pm
MK lets just say the Bear makes a mean sauce!
bqueen 04.09.09 at 12:47 pm
Leave it to Lame Cherry to clarify the bow:
This is Obama’s, Bill Clinton, DEFINE IS, moment. He looks like a fool, because he is an absolute fool.
Obama might as well have said, “No bow, the real photo was upside down in the King was standing on his head in a room up on end, and I was instead on my side, laying on the ceiling, curled up, so it was not a bow.”
This is but a continuing storyline of Obama stupidity. Politico had almost 800 comments on this issue alone and even Obama voters were not buying the lie.
LOVE THAT LAME!!
http://lamecherry.blogspot.com/
HP Boston 04.09.09 at 12:47 pm
Hi tags and mk, dwp and persophone……persophone (have we met?)
…..
MKfromLA 04.09.09 at 12:47 pm
bqueen 04.09.09 at 12:47 pm
Ahrrrgh!
DancesWithPumas 04.09.09 at 12:47 pm
persephone…
this reminds me of “what’s my line” or,
I’ve Got A Secret”… let them keep guessing…it’s fun…
if one has no life (speaking strictly for myself).
taggles1 04.09.09 at 12:49 pm
me too persephone! per mk fromla
taggles1 04.09.09 at 12:49 pm
bqueen!!!!!!! where the heck have you been?!?!?!
persephone 04.09.09 at 12:52 pm
gosh i need to lose this job
cuts way into my blogging time
mk, tags,
DancesWithPumas 04.09.09 at 12:54 pm
#59
Maybe they should decide which direction The Confluence should take.
TC doesn’t speak for me…nor does it speak to me … nor does it decide for me. PumaPAC and a few other PUMA sites, have been self directed and ACTIVE for months…
There was a post about how TC wasn’t a Puma blog per se, as well, they weren’t a feminist blog per se? That says it all. They have nothing more to say to me.
(Although there are a few posters who I read frequently…but, I take the trouble to go to their individual sites. There are also some commenters who I appreciate very much.
.14 cents adjusted for inflation and to accommodate ohumanwrong’s stimuloss package
murphy 04.09.09 at 12:56 pm
Cinie is also addressing the question. As in so many things, I agree with her take:
“This is a rant.
It seems that every day that the Pretendident manages to successfully navigate through without sticking his foot in his mouth, or his finger in the eye of someone, or a group of someones, worthy of PUMA respect, the resultant paucity of headlines causes the diligent bloggers of the PUMAsphere to turn introspective and compulsively begin to contemplate the future and direction of our nascent movement via our navels. Thus, we begin to see a spate of “Where Do We Go From Here?” What Have We Accomplished So Far?” blog posts, chronicling our genesis and calling for “focus.”
Why?
Where do we go from here? For now, we go where Barack Obama leads us. Not like the Lapdogs of Cheetoville, or the Sheeple of Sleepy Hollow, or the lazy, compliant Mainstream Media Mafia, all of whom have proven far too susceptible to the mindfucking and astroturfing of his devious, duplicitous minions to be trusted; but, like bloodhounds, or, what we are, PUMAs, who have caught the scent of prey and refuse to be diverted from our mission.”
Have I mentioned that I absolutely ADORE Cinie?
http://cinie.wordpress.com/2009/04/09/my-puma-rant/
persephone 04.09.09 at 12:59 pm
#70
That was sorta my point, that Pumapac is already active.
Or maybe they know that and it’s just too feministic for em..
eh.
BillieJo 04.09.09 at 1:00 pm
DancesWithPumas
What happened to the excuse that olyinthief was bending over to shake teh hand of a short man??
————-
I have no idea, and kept looking around for a link to that story but to no avail. Was it a real story or a PUMA story?
Guess it doesn’t matter, dipping, picking off pant lint or checking out crotch is all bs anyway. One story is as lame as the next from this administration.
DancesWithPumas 04.09.09 at 1:01 pm
“I’m glad there’s a PUMA Pac where women’s issues are paramount, and The Confluence where they’re not so much. I like that there’s The Confluence and the new The Widdershins and the City Tavern, where divergent points of view are expressed and debated, no matter how and/or why these sites came to be as they are. I’m as glad that Cannonfire and Liberal Rapture exist, even though, like all the other sites on the blogroll, sometimes I don’t agree with them, or even care about the particular subject they’re going on about that day. ”
:::snip:::
“Maybe this past election cycle has left me pathologically resistant to “change,” for change’s sake, but, I’m convinced that movements evolve organically. I believe PUMA will too, as long as we don’t fuck with it and try to make it what we think it should be, instead of appreciating it for what it is, and nurturing it and letting it grow into what it will become.
If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.
PUMA ain’t broke.”
http://cinie.wordpress.com/2009/04/09/my-puma-rant/
BillieJo 04.09.09 at 1:03 pm
Love the graphics Dances. Would love to see O’jackass in a pink burka.
Hi Taggels, why are you PUMAs starting a new blog? We all need to work together. Love reading the posts at all the different blogs though.
DancesWithPumas 04.09.09 at 1:04 pm
I feel like going over and spamming them with links to here
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Yes, and include links to our teams. Oh, and don;t forget to thank them for their months and months of working on some of these issues with us. We couldn’t have done it without them.
persephone 04.09.09 at 1:06 pm
DWP
how about a paypal link too?
in case anyone would like to make a bridge donation while the debate rages..
taggles1 04.09.09 at 1:07 pm
BilliJoe, the blog has a bunch of posters. That was the point of it. to try and keep peeps together instead of visiting a bunch of different blogs.
BillieJo 04.09.09 at 1:08 pm
Have I mentioned that I absolutely ADORE Cinie?
Me too Murph!!!
You and Cinie rock, inform and make me laugh.
taggles1 04.09.09 at 1:08 pm
Also, madamab and gary and me and lb each had our own blogs. new hampster joined and shtuey joined too. Hopefully there will be others as time goes on.
There was once a place where we all had posted and we wanted to keep posting together.
BillieJo 04.09.09 at 1:11 pm
taggles1 04.09.09 at 1:07 pm
BilliJoe, the blog has a bunch of posters. That was the point of it. to try and keep peeps together instead of visiting a bunch of different blogs.
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I like that aspect.
Have you seen DailyPUMA? http://dailypuma.blogspot.com/
I guess it’s doing that for PUMAs too.
DancesWithPumas 04.09.09 at 1:12 pm
persephone
Good idea.
I wish TC well… they / it just doesn’t speak to me. I don’t resonate with some of them… especially that freak who stalks stalkers who stalk him, and most recently devoted an entire post to them. Ego much?
(Unclear on concept… rather, unclear on most concepts.)
ruffo 04.09.09 at 1:13 pm
Murphy,
Off topic- do you or any bloggers think this is unconstitutional or maybe even treason for Obama to go to the G20 summit and enter into a treaty for the financial regulation of US businesses, financial and otherwise, when we are a sovreign nation? Our constitution in describing presidential powers states the president may not enter into a treaty without 2/3 of the senate’s approval. Doesn’t this Financial Board he entered us into constitute a treaty of sorts? It states that this Board can regulate, audit and determine pay scales for executives in our country, and the no complaints can be overriden by the Congress, Senate or Courts. We have one vote in 20 on the board and most of them are muslim nations who would love to have the US bow down at their whim. What if they targeted Israeli/US companies or companies that hired women equal to men or only white men? IT IS TREASON and overrides our sovereignty.
DOES ANYONE AGREE?
He should be tried for treason!
taggles1 04.09.09 at 1:14 pm
yes, i have seen daily puma. very good site!
HP Boston 04.09.09 at 1:14 pm
If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.
PUMA ain’t broke.”
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BBL going for a walk, the sun is shining and I need some vitamin D……..
persephone 04.09.09 at 1:16 pm
always wondered-is there a reason dailypuma isn’t on the blogroll here?
DancesWithPumas 04.09.09 at 1:16 pm
What if they targeted Israeli/US companies
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Why couple Israel with the US in that question? It isn’t one of our states, or a suburb of the US.
PUMAbear 04.09.09 at 1:17 pm
I think it’s fair to say that in the U.S. Human rights may have been the ideal but within certain American elements human rights, as applied to foreign states, have often been undermined, even discarded for the sake of political and economic interests. The cold war was egregious in its effects on human right. Globalization is the same. Obama’s neoliberalism will swamp even the rights we expect on our own soil.
Pesky liberals, women’s rights groups, have been subjected to an organized campaign to co-opt resistence by co-opting the leadership and the media to produce the resounding silence we hear today.
If that doesn’t work the people will be silenced with secret police style oppression.
BillieJo 04.09.09 at 1:20 pm
persephone 04.09.09 at 1:16 pm
always wondered-is there a reason dailypuma isn’t on the blogroll here?
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I agree and vote to have it added.
ruffo 04.09.09 at 1:22 pm
Sorry-here is the article I read about this that sent by blood boiling:
On World Net Daily-Jerome Corsi:
The final communiqués coming out of the G20 meeting in London April 2 included a document entitled “Declaration on Strengthening the Financial System.”
“By agreeing to the stipulations in this document, President Obama gave the blessing of the United States to the G20 decision to elevate the Financial Stability Forum into the Financial Stability Board,” Corsi wrote. “The United States has only one vote in the newly constituted Financial Stability Board, a group that will be largely controlled by European central bankers.”
The new global regulator now has the authority to examine all U.S. banks, brokerage firms and corporations – including non-financial companies such as the Big Three automakers – to examine operations and determine risk.
The Financial Stability Board then has the international authority to set policies in these corporations, including compensation packages the private boards of directors in the examined companies decide to pay top executives and senior managers.
Morris charged that the Obama administration, by agreeing to create the Financial Stability Board, has gone beyond nationalizing U.S. corporations, to “internationalize” U.S.-based corporations under the control of this new global regulator.
While the G20 focused on regulating risks in hedge funds and derivatives, the authority of the Financial Stability Board extends to any banking, brokerage or business practice by a major U.S. corporation that the Financial Stability Board on its own authority determines is unduly risky.
Under the premise that the IMF and the Financial Stability Board would have the ability to make loans to important U.S. corporations, the IMF and the Financial Stability Board become the effective global regulators over the corporate world, superseding all U.S. governmental authorities, including the Federal Reserve, the U.S. Treasury, the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation and a host of corporate regulators, including the U.S. Department of Commerce and the U.S. Department of Labor.
persephone 04.09.09 at 1:22 pm
#82 i saw that and was afraid that somewhere you were puking into a wastebasket..
ruffo 04.09.09 at 1:24 pm
Dances, I didn’t mean to include it like that, I meant what if the board, being mostly Muslim, decided to go after companies in the US founded by Jewish people or companies that promote Women or something? Not to say we are tied to Israel.
BillieJo 04.09.09 at 1:24 pm
Another taste of Cinie’s extended names for O’jackass…
Enough, is e-flippin’-nuff, where’s the gosh darned dog President Perfect promised his daughters, huh? He’s been putting it off long enough. What could be more important than keeping a promise to your kids? Especially when you’re the Freakin’ Waters-Parting, Lightbringing, Mystical Magical Obamessiah, Politidol, Celebritician, Hero of the Entire Fluckin’ World and All-Around Good Guy? Haven’t those poor children suffered enough?
http://cinie.wordpress.com/2009/04/08/okay-wheres-the-freakin-dog/
ruffo 04.09.09 at 1:25 pm
Looking for a legal way to get O’Logo out of there.
DancesWithPumas 04.09.09 at 1:28 pm
ruffo 04.09.09 at 1:24 pm
Dances, I didn’t mean to include it like that, I meant what if the board, being mostly Muslim, decided to go after companies in the US founded by Jewish people or companies that promote Women or something? Not to say we are tied to Israel.
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Oh, I see now, thanks. That line just jumped out at me seemed to blur everything else. Insteresting take / comment though. Thank you.
gay gal 04.09.09 at 1:30 pm
Kinda off subject:
Taggles, during the discussions a couples night regarding the concept of “widdershins” as a perfect name for the blog, I remembered the next morning Cerridwen, the (Welsh) goddess of the Cauldron. She stirs her cauldron counterclockwise. Here is a link to a great pic of a sculpture of her:
http://www.orderwhitemoon.org/goddess/Cerridwen.html
ruffo 04.09.09 at 1:33 pm
Dances, Also the Board, in deciding compensation, could decide that men should make more and according to this agreement, the Congress, Senate and Courts have no jurisdiction to intervene.
Am I the only one SCARED OUT OF MY MIND about this ALREADY SIGNED AGREEMENT?
taggles1 04.09.09 at 1:36 pm
wow, thanks gay gal! that is a great! just may use it!
DancesWithPumas 04.09.09 at 1:39 pm
ruffo 04.09.09 at 1:33 pm
Dances, Also the Board, in deciding compensation, could decide that men should make more and according to this agreement, the Congress, Senate and Courts have no jurisdiction to intervene.
Am I the only one SCARED OUT OF MY MIND about this ALREADY SIGNED AGREEMENT?
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Harness that fear and direct it into an action…organize a Prowl…
gay gal 04.09.09 at 1:42 pm
ruffo 04.09.09 at 1:13 pm
Here is info on the G-20. Congress would have agreed to joining back in 1999. Actually the US was a founding member.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G-20_major_economies
BillieJo 04.09.09 at 1:42 pm
Okay, I am pissed again.
Just got an email from James Carville asking for a donation to pay off Hillary’s campaign debt!
This is my reply..
How truely pitiful your email is.
Yes, I support Hillary and know she won the popular primary votes, yet the DNC selected Obama to be their candidate and now we are stuck with an inexperienced buffoon that Democrats are praising like he is the new messiah.
I do not support Obama nor do I respect the Democratic Party for the corruption of this past election.
You actually think I will donate more money to pay off Hillary’s debt to win a ticket to see the American Idol finale or have lunch with you after you threw Hillary’s supporters under the bus and fell in line with Obama?
Don’t insult me. Obama and his flock could have paid off Hillary’s debt easily, but they didn’t think it was important, now you are begging the same supporters that the Democratic Party dismissed.
Take care of Hillary’s debt yourself, talk to your President and maybe he can use a little bail out money for that too.
You and your buddies should have stood up for Hillary the way her supporters did and still do and she would be our President right now and you wouldn’t be sending me this stupid request for money. You have lost my respect.
ruffo 04.09.09 at 1:48 pm
GayGal, I am not questioning the G20 itself, but rather that our president can go there and agree to a governing board that will override our three branches of government and regulate and decide on compensation and fines for US companies. That was not decided in 1999. The agreement to convene a BOARD of FINANCES was just agreed to this time but our constitution states the president cannot enter into an agreement or treaty without 2/3 consent from the Senate. I do not think the senators would agree that this world governing board (made up of Europeans and only one representative from the US) can OVERRIDE our Congress, Senate, Courts and Treasury department. Why even have those if this Board is ultimate in the decision?
He handed over our rights as a country to run our own companies and decide compensation. No longer will this be the land of the prosperous and free. It will be “If” the board decides its not paying people too much.
ruffo 04.09.09 at 1:51 pm
Dances, I am a casual blogger-no idea how to start a prowl. I have dircted this question already to senators and media myself asking if I have this right and why aren’t people more concerned. Not sure what else to do to start a prowl?? Advice?
Hearing of this giveaway by O’Logo and then him wanting to regulate and run security on the Internet (oh yeah, that is the latest, so he can “shut it down for emergencies” but it gives him the authority to shut down “offensive sites that hurt national security” which could broadly be expanded to “anyone that pisses him or his administration off” like the tea party sites or PUMAS). I am getting sick.
DancesWithPumas 04.09.09 at 1:53 pm
BillieJo 04.09.09 at 1:42 pm
Okay, I am pissed again.
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Same here. Received three email from Carville male defender of groper Favreau.
It was a distinct pleasure responding 3 times.
DancesWithPumas 04.09.09 at 1:57 pm
ruffo 04.09.09 at 1:51 pm
Dances, I am a casual blogger-no idea how to start a prowl. I have dircted this question already to senators and media myself asking if I have this right and why aren’t people more concerned. Not sure what else to do to start a prowl?? Advice?
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Gather apropos email addresses, write a brief (one page or less) sample letter, to include relevant points / sources (where appropriate), and send to murphy@pumapac.org; and or send to any other like-minded blogs with whom you have a relationship.
persephone 04.09.09 at 1:58 pm
ahhhhh!!!
I just got the Carville letter too!
fat chance, James.
BillieJo 04.09.09 at 1:59 pm
Gotta agree with this post (Sugar), I also think O’passTheBong was high as a kite on 60 Minutes interview…
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When I heard the audio of Obama on 60 Minutes the other day when Steve Kroft asked him if he was punch drunk as he laughed about the banking crisis, the first thing that came to mind was, “this motherfucker was high as a kite!” The motherfucker being Obama of course because Steve Kroft most definitely was not high. In fact, Steve Kroft is a hero in my book, at least this week, for having balls of steel. He dared venture where not many journalists have dared to go with the Ruse in Chief.
http://sugarnspice.typepad.com/sugar_n_spicea_meeting_pl/2009/03/is-barack-obama-a-weed-head.html
DancesWithPumas 04.09.09 at 2:00 pm
“offensive sites that hurt national security”
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Offensive is in the eye of the beholder… and this scum bucket presididnt is completely lacking in both character and principle. Scary thought.
persephone 04.09.09 at 2:01 pm
my reply:
All political contributions going forward will be made with the intention of preventing a second Obama term. I’m afraid this cause doesn’t qualify.
Sorry, Dimocrats.
XXX
PS Please stop begging me for money-so unbecoming.
DancesWithPumas 04.09.09 at 2:01 pm
persephone
persephone 04.09.09 at 2:02 pm
“offensive sites that hurt national security”
what, like moveon.org???
DancesWithPumas 04.09.09 at 2:03 pm
My passport expires in 2010… gotta stop procrastinating and get it renewed..sooner than later.
ruffo 04.09.09 at 2:06 pm
Dances,
And a “national emergency” could include tea parties, protests, or elections that don’t seem to be going his way. It is way too broadly stated in the proposed bill. Only a dictator should want to control the Internet. Otherwise I can see homeland security or something (not a CZAR either, just the whole dept) reviewing for security problems intrusions.
NO POLITICAL PARTY SHOULD RUN THE INTERNET.
gay gal 04.09.09 at 2:07 pm
On topic:
Murphy, focusing Foreign Policy is so on target. This is an area that clearly shows a rift between Hillary and Obama. Call me naive, but our State Department under Hillary will prevail in setting the tone of our Foreign Policy. We already know she thinks BO’s approach is naive as you pointed out.
I don’t see her cleaning up after him. She seems pretty OK with letting him eat his own foot. She is running our direction of Foreign Policy with every interview she gives on Women’s Rights.
You really should blog your latest piece at the Dipnote blog at State. I don’t like the word “should”, but, jesum, it would be great to see your stance discussed there. Others are starting to voice this position as well.
ruffo 04.09.09 at 2:08 pm
Persephone-that is not offensive to this liberal president. They are the best, most supportive group.
pumas on the other hand, who bring to light what is wrong in this country, would be offensive to Obambi and Emmanuel.
Murphy should monitor the internet. She is very diplomatic.
HP Boston 04.09.09 at 2:08 pm
DancesWithPumas 04.09.09 at 2:03 pm
My passport expires in 2010… gotta stop procrastinating and get it renewed..sooner than later.
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Ya and before they tax them…………..
DancesWithPumas 04.09.09 at 2:08 pm
ruffo
agreed… and no political party should run the census either.
I can’t begin to tell you how grateful I am to be OLD*!!
*Still younger than MamaPuma though, lest anyone forgets.
ruffo 04.09.09 at 2:11 pm
Dances, I would have never guessed you were any older than me. No wonder you are so sage.
DancesWithPumas 04.09.09 at 2:11 pm
HP Boston 04.09.09 at 2:08 pm
DancesWithPumas 04.09.09 at 2:03 pm
My passport expires in 2010… gotta stop procrastinating and get it renewed..sooner than later.
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Ya and before they tax them…………..
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Or revoke renewals
DancesWithPumas 04.09.09 at 2:12 pm
No wonder you are so sage.
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ummm, more like oregano
gay gal 04.09.09 at 2:12 pm
Also, Murphy, I saw your latest piece blogged on ABC.
ruffo 04.09.09 at 2:14 pm
No wonder you are so sage.
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ummm, more like oregano
Or Thyme. hahaha
HP Boston 04.09.09 at 2:14 pm
*Still younger than MamaPuma though, lest anyone forgets.
I think I’m older than the both (ea) of you! Or I will be on Saturday!
HP Boston 04.09.09 at 2:16 pm
Or Thyme. hahaha
or Rosemary’s baby
gay gal 04.09.09 at 2:17 pm
Passports: Mine expires in 2010 also. We have 52 days before the the travel requirements change:
http://www.travel.state.gov/passport/passport_1738.html
DancesWithPumas 04.09.09 at 2:18 pm
Muuuuuuuuuuurphyyyyyyyy…
HP is attacking meeeee agaaaaaaaaaain.
Waaaaaaaaaaaaah
ruffo 04.09.09 at 2:20 pm
Neil Cavuto read my constitutional question email (or someone in his office did)! He didn’t reply yet though. I asked Judge Napolitano on Fox, too, because I liked what he said about the Treasury making banks take the money “or face audit” constituted extortion. I like anyone who can find something that will get this administration out of here BEFORE our country is gone as we know it.
I cannot retire until 2033 or something. So unless God takes me before then, I have a lot of living to do here.
DancesWithPumas 04.09.09 at 2:21 pm
125 GayGal
Thank you for that link.
taggles1 04.09.09 at 2:23 pm
gay gal, please give a link to abc…
persephone 04.09.09 at 2:24 pm
well, lookey here: (propaganda alert)
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,513499,00.html
See, Obama needs to control the internets to protect us from Al Qaeda…ohhhhhh…now I get it!
And this is reported as if it’s all of a sudden new??
Ohh goddess-the timing.
The security moms will be screaming and protesting, insisting that regulation is our friend….
renew those passports, quick…
HP Boston 04.09.09 at 2:24 pm
DancesWithPumas 04.09.09 at 2:18 pm
Muuuuuuuuuuurphyyyyyyyy…
HP is attacking meeeee agaaaaaaaaaain.
Waaaaaaaaaaaaah
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Oh you silly Puma I am the OLD SAGE and I can push you around.
So I wanted a new log on name I choose Pumabuttercreanfrosting but now I think I will change to :
OLDPUMASAGE!
DancesWithPumas 04.09.09 at 2:27 pm
OldPumasAge??
wha..huh??
OldPumasSag?
huh, wha??
Love,
PERKY
ruffo 04.09.09 at 2:27 pm
I don’t think Al Qaeda in the caves of Afghanistan can do it and even if they can, I would rather them shut down the whole internet than selected (non-Obama) sites being shut down for “security reasons.” I can see the military sites and government grids but not the private sites.
This is why I railed to all my democratic friends (most of whom don’t talk to me anymore because of my research and knowledge of BO) that having one party dominate in both houses and the presidency is NOT A GOOD THING. No one is watching the henhouse except the foxes.
ruffo 04.09.09 at 2:29 pm
What if certain sections of the country that don’t vote democratic or didn’t in the last election, were shut down “for security purposes” before election day and there was no way to access voting information in vast sections of the country? that could affect the election and early registration, don’t you think?
HP Boston 04.09.09 at 2:32 pm
DancesWithPumas 04.09.09 at 2:27 pm
OldPumasAge?? YUP
love,
all things small and perky
DancesWithPumas 04.09.09 at 2:33 pm
ruffo
yep. agreed.
ruffo 04.09.09 at 2:35 pm
Thanks Perky!
gay gal 04.09.09 at 2:38 pm
Taggles
Two posts:
Apr 9, 2009 11:32:02 AM
Apr 9, 2009 11:24:23 AM
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2009/04/president-ob-11.html
foxyladi14 04.09.09 at 2:57 pm
womens rights are human rights.and they have been set back 100 years since bo showed up….. don’t think he likes women very much.i believe he has issues because of his mom and grandmother…
ruffo 04.09.09 at 2:57 pm
Foxyladi
and his wife
pigpaws 04.09.09 at 3:07 pm
How this will affect your policies?
1. Foreign Relations
Sorry murphy, the Saudis and ChiComs pay too well to pay attention to any of that silly human rights crap.
Besides, to the ‘greenies’ and ‘global warming’ crowd, genocide, in whatever form it takes, is a win-win.
bqueen 04.09.09 at 3:10 pm
if tags is still around”
taggles, i keep missing you! was with my sick mum for a bit and then off takin’ care of some very time consuming biz. So nice to pop back in and see everyone “still at it”! I can’t believe Obamarahma’s only been prime minister for a few months…it feels like years already!!
tec1965 04.09.09 at 3:13 pm
The final communiqués coming out of the G20 meeting in London April 2 included a document entitled “Declaration on Strengthening the Financial System.”
“By agreeing to the stipulations in this document, President Obama gave the blessing of the United States to the G20 decision to elevate the Financial Stability Forum into the Financial Stability Board,” Corsi wrote. “The United States has only one vote in the newly constituted Financial Stability Board, a group that will be largely controlled by European central bankers.”
The new global regulator now has the authority to examine all U.S. banks, brokerage firms and corporations – including non-financial companies such as the Big Three automakers – to examine operations and determine risk.
The Financial Stability Board then has the international authority to set policies in these corporations, including compensation packages the private boards of directors in the examined companies decide to pay top executives and senior managers.
Morris charged that the Obama administration, by agreeing to create the Financial Stability Board, has gone beyond nationalizing U.S. corporations, to “internationalize” U.S.-based corporations under the control of this new global regulator.
bqueen 04.09.09 at 3:13 pm
Check this out:
<real Schindler’s list found
bqueen 04.09.09 at 3:16 pm
tec1965: in other words, he is pimping out US banks/companies….
ruffo 04.09.09 at 3:17 pm
Hey if Obama gets control of the internet, he will also have access to all IP addresses, bank accounts, etc. I see lots of shenanigans goign on with that election and intimidation wise.
gay gal 04.09.09 at 3:18 pm
pigpaws 04.09.09 at 3:07 pm
How this will affect your policies?
1. Foreign Relations
Sorry murphy, the Saudis and ChiComs pay too well to pay attention to any of that silly human rights crap.
Besides, to the ‘greenies’ and ‘global warming’ crowd, genocide, in whatever form it takes, is a win-win.
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Will you just go find a right-wing blog and find some companionship with your own talking points!
DancesWithPumas 04.09.09 at 3:20 pm
Oops! Obama’s press office has an e-mail snafu Story
E-mail of President Obama’s schedule includes back-and-forth between staffers
(CNN) — The White House Press Office accidentally e-mailed a draft version of President Obama’s Thursday schedule on Wednesday night that included the back-and-forth between White House staffers.
Members of the media got a behind-the-scenes look at what goes into President Obama’s schedule.
The e-mail, sent on a daily basis to inform the media of the next day’s events, at first appeared to be like any other press schedule. But at the bottom of the e-mail, there was a series of exchanges from the press team, as well as a draft of the schedule.
The first section of the schedule noted that in the morning, Obama planned to talk with homeowners who have refinanced their homes and benefited from lower mortgage payments.
One staffer, recommending changes to that line, wrote to “put more emphasis on the real people aspect of this.”
continued at:
http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/04/09/press.office.email/index.html
gay gal 04.09.09 at 3:21 pm
“Morris charged….”
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Morris is a Dick! He hates Hillary Clinton. “Hillary, we will take it from here!” I don’t think that meant quoting Dick.
GOSUEF4HIL 04.09.09 at 3:22 pm
Fabulous piece again by Marc Rubin:
http://tominpaine.blogspot.com/2009/04/binghamton-killings-and-obamas-missed.html
Did anyone catch Obama w/ the press today? I just saw a clip on Fox- where he was discussing housing and a reporter asked him (off topic) to comment on the piracy off the coast of Somalia. His comment? “we are here to talk about housing”
He is truly unbelievable and again it is another piece that MSM will not report on or question his inability to answer a question w/o a teleprompter!
GOSUEF4HIL 04.09.09 at 3:23 pm
And in case you didn’t see this one- got this from Will Bower this morning (please forgive me if these have been posted- I am catching up)
This will make your blood boil:
http://foxforum.blogs.foxnews.com/2009/04/08/ziegler_palin_couric/
DancesWithPumas 04.09.09 at 3:24 pm
GOSUEF4HIL 04.09.09 at 3:22 pm
Fabulous piece again by Marc Rubin:
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Yes! Caught that piece yesterday.
obama’s an idiot.
DancesWithPumas 04.09.09 at 3:29 pm
GOSUEF4HIL 04.09.09 at 3:23 pm
This will make your blood boil:
http://foxforum.blogs.foxnews.com/2009/04/08/ziegler_palin_couric/
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Excerpted from above article:
“But what makes this situation so particularly galling is the specific reason why Couric is being honored for her “excellence in journalism.” Couric is being presented with the award for “Special Achievement for National Impact on the 2008 Campaign.”
::::snip::::
Of course, there is no disputing the fact that the perception created by Couric’s interview and the ensuing media and entertainment coverage of it clearly had an enormous impact on the 2008 presidential election. But is this the kind of “achievement” that journalism is supposed to be honoring?
:::snip:::
It is obvious that Couric is being rewarded for the political result of her interview –the shooting down of a conservative superstar just in time to save the Obama campaign.”
continued at:
http://foxforum.blogs.foxnews.com/2009/04/08/ziegler_palin_couric/
ruffo 04.09.09 at 3:29 pm
I miss Peter Jennings. When he was on the news, it was truly impartial. He was so glad to be an American finally after taking his citizenship test (he was born Canadian). He was truly an impartial reporter. Charlie Gibson is just a shill for the left. He always has his bend on things. Kouric is a loser and it is unfortunate because she gives women in the media a bad name to defame another woman and do a cut piece like she did on Palin.
gay gal 04.09.09 at 3:31 pm
pigpaws
Bush III is not going to be impeached. Maybe if people like you would have worked this hard to call for the impeachment of Bush II, we would have had a chance. Go to a right-wing blog and advocate ethics hearing for Bush II that will go down in history, least we once again rewrite the history of the abuse of power by the executive branch.
GOSUEF4HIL 04.09.09 at 3:35 pm
Billie Jo- #101-
I got that e-mail from Carville too- I just hit delete but I wish I had crafted such a great response-
I was too pissed to do anything and when I see that she still has outstanding debt and that fool hasn’t done a thing to help her- it makes me CRAZY!!
tec1965 04.09.09 at 3:37 pm
can i change my name to irrelavant puma
GOSUEF4HIL 04.09.09 at 3:38 pm
BTW- on the stimulus package?
I just learned yesterday- that buried in that monstrosity is more regulation for HIPPA (I am sure you are all aware of HIPPA whether you work in health care or not).
Suffice it say- more regulation- more obstacles all in the guise of keeping you safe- more beaurocracy is what it amounts to
ruffo 04.09.09 at 3:38 pm
Gay Gal-
But he did at the g20 enter into an agreement, “or treaty”, without the approval of 2/3 of the senate, which the constitution requires. Also, he gave away our sovreignty. Is that impeachable when he swore to uphold the constitution?
ruffo 04.09.09 at 3:42 pm
tec1965 why irrelevant?
persephone 04.09.09 at 3:42 pm
Hillary should be the one getting the honors-for the way she handled herself while being interviewed by Katie Couric last year.
That was my HRC turning point. I knew then that if she could handle squeaking, sniveling Couric without losing it she was equipped to deal with anything
Dumbass Couric wanted to interrogate her about her beauty routine. Hillary wanted to talk policy! It was hard to watch-so sickeningly sexist.
Did anyone ask Obama about HIS beauty routine, during a mainstream media interview during the f-ing primary? I dont’ think so!
Katie, you get the raspberry award, at the very least. BLECH!
gay gal 04.09.09 at 3:42 pm
James,
I so wish I could make another contribution to help pay off Hillary’s debt. The economy kinda sucks right now, James.
Why can’t the DNC help pay off this debt? Whey didn’t President Obama push his supporters more to help pay off her debt, as he said he would? Is this letter also going to President Obama’s primary supporters? Please say it is so.
I will NEVER stop supporting Hillary Rodham Clinton, by the way! Our commitment to Women’s rights are Human Rights depends on her leadership in State and her future position at the top of the Executive Branch.
DancesWithPumas 04.09.09 at 3:42 pm
tec1965 04.09.09 at 3:37 pm
can i change my name to irrelavant puma
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why would you do that?
tec1965 04.09.09 at 3:44 pm
he should be impeached ,he should be removed hes not even a fucking citizen but the majority of people in this country including our sitting congress are mindless fucking spineless drones infected by the sight of oblowmes hard on on the press bus oooohhhh hes sooo big ummm imean handsom i mean even chris mathews had an orgasm on national t.v. 5this dirtbag will continue to rape our rights and our constitution and then in 2010 come election time abunch of stimulous money kicks in and the media swoons again look how good were doing now under king oblowmes rule were fucked
tec1965 04.09.09 at 3:45 pm
i dont dances im just in a shitty mood
persephone 04.09.09 at 3:45 pm
Is this letter also going to President Obama’s primary supporters? Please say it is so.
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gay gal thats great!!
DancesWithPumas 04.09.09 at 3:45 pm
tec
WTG!!
DancesWithPumas 04.09.09 at 3:46 pm
tec
oh, whew!
tec1965 04.09.09 at 3:49 pm
the economy is about to kill the credit that took me over 10 years to rebuild my small buisness had just started getting credit 2 small accounts and now nobody is building
im losing my mind
ruffo 04.09.09 at 3:49 pm
Tec
he will be impeached. he is so involved in corruption, as is his whole party, that it makes what Nixon did look like small potatoes. All Nixon did is break into the opposing party’s office. This guy has had people investigated, intimidated, not proven he is even a citizen and has sold out this country. Treason is impeachable.
HP Boston 04.09.09 at 3:50 pm
tec1965 04.09.09 at 3:44 pm
now that is the truth…I wonder when some real patriot is going to stand up and blow the whistle. I guess never they will shoot anyone who dares upset the king. I hear he needs/has a food taster……..
GOSUEF4HIL 04.09.09 at 3:51 pm
gay gal- excellent point asking if Obie’s supporters are getting Carville’s e-mail request-
I am going into my deleted folder right now just to send it back to him with that point
Delle 04.09.09 at 3:56 pm
The best Hillary interview was the one she did with O’Reilly.
He was pretty fair and she seemed relaxed, comfortable and came out looking good.
tec1965 04.09.09 at 3:56 pm
i dont know but i have never felt so powerless as a voter /citizen it seems like they the pupeteers have all the bases covered the have control of the house /senate /media
where do we go from here the republicans if they manage to balance the powere are going to abuse it 180 degrees the other way
so as i said ive never felt so irrelavant
SadStateOfAffairs 04.09.09 at 4:02 pm
Thank you so much Murphy for continuing to draw attention to the long string of assaults on women and human rights. Did a cross post at Hillarys Village and people cannot believe what they are hearing. At what venue was this egregious remark uttered?
Truly it is a Sad State of Affairs! Grrrrrrrr.
DancesWithPumas 04.09.09 at 4:02 pm
Whacked Out Comment of the Day
(altho, the day is still young):
“Besides, to the ‘greenies’ and ‘global warming’ crowd, genocide, in whatever form it takes, is a win-win.”
DancesWithPumas 04.09.09 at 4:07 pm
RE:
SadStateOfAffairs 04.09.09 at 4:02 pm
Thank you so much Murphy for continuing to draw attention to the long string of assaults on women and human rights. Did a cross post at Hillarys Village and people cannot believe what they are hearing. At what venue was this egregious remark uttered?
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LINK:
http://www.hillarysvillage.net/showthread.php?t=13183
gay gal 04.09.09 at 4:16 pm
ruffo 04.09.09 at 3:38 pm
The executive branch is able to sign treaties with the G8 or G20 countries constitutionally and was already approved by Congress in votes before the US joined these groups. Therefore they are not impeachable.
Amendments have to be made to limit this constitutional executive branch right. Here is a bill that you might want to support to help to limit the treaties in the future:
HJ Res 41
3/25/2009–Introduced.
Constitutional Amendment – Prohibits the President from entering into a treaty or other international agreement that would provide for the United States to adopt as legal U.S. tender a currency issued by an entity other than the United States.
http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-hj41/show
HP Boston 04.09.09 at 4:16 pm
LINK:
http://blog.hillarysvillage.net/
Geezus I thought I went to church……..whew!
gay gal 04.09.09 at 4:24 pm
ruffo 04.09.09 at 3:38 pm
“We have one vote in 20 on the board and most of them are muslim nations….”
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Two of them are Muslim countries: Saudi Arabia and Turkey.
I am not in anyway trying to discourage you. I am just pointing out things.
First as I mentioned about. Find bills that you can help to support that are trying to get amendments to the constitution. Once those amendments are on the books and they sign treaties that go against them, then it is an impeachable offense.
Most of what Dick the Morris says has to be taken with a grain of salt. Personally I do not waste my time on Dick.
gay gal 04.09.09 at 4:26 pm
“Personally I do not waste my time on Dick.
But that is probably noticeable via my login name.
Had to laugh at myself a bit today. Had to laugh period.
SadStateOfAffairs 04.09.09 at 4:29 pm
HP Boston 04.09.09 at 4:16 pm
LINK:
http://blog.hillarysvillage.net/
Geezus I thought I went to church……..whew!
LOL! Isn’t that beautiful? Sometimes it’s nice to take a break from all that’s wrong in the world and our country. It is places like PUMA PAC and people like you that gives us all the courage to carry on. Love, love, love you guys.
BTW-Is anyone here attending the tea party in San Diego?
SadStateOfAffairs 04.09.09 at 4:32 pm
DWP,
Thanks for posting the link…..
Here’s the correct one for the cross post. OMG! LOL!
http://www.hillarysvillage.net/showthread.php?t=13183
DancesWithPumas 04.09.09 at 4:36 pm
SadStateOfAffairs
Was trying to prevent you from receiving a No Link fine.
Murphy’s Law: (paraphrasing) when referencing a site, youtube, or article, etc., please include the link with your comment.
Those “No Link” fines are expensive too, let me tell you!
pigpaws 04.09.09 at 4:49 pm
In the shadow of the congressional black caucus, who went to Cuba, and gushed on and on about the dictator, Castro.
The Women in White
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/cubas-new-castro-shows-little-patience-with-women-in-white-814070.html
Perhaps those idiots in congress should have talked to them. Or stopped in Miami to talk to those who escaped Cuba in makeshift boats. Or the regular people of Cuba.
SadStateOfAffairs 04.09.09 at 4:53 pm
Thanks for letting me get by with a warning this time! Obviously you are much more generous than FOTUS and are able to show mercy and compassion….
Cheers!
DancesWithPumas 04.09.09 at 4:58 pm
persephone 04.09.09 at 1:16 pm
always wondered-is there a reason dailypuma isn’t on the blogroll here?
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I believe it was on teh blogroll… must’ve slipped through the cracks when the list was reorganized.
Let’s wait for Murphy’s: zoinks!!
BillieJo 04.09.09 at 4:58 pm
gay gal 04.09.09 at 3:21 pm
“Morris charged….”
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Morris is a Dick! He hates Hillary Clinton. “Hillary, we will take it from here!” I don’t think that meant quoting Dick.
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This is true, Morris hates Hillary. He is a card carrying Republican and his only saving grace is he hates BO even more.
I have to have selected hearing when he talks.
Just like Hannity, I brace myself when he gives out a teaser that he is going to slam Hillary, but so far in the past few months he has been pretty good about our girl. Other wise, I would be slamming his email box until it locked up.
BillieJo 04.09.09 at 5:05 pm
It is obvious that Couric is being rewarded for the political result of her interview –the shooting down of a conservative superstar just in time to save the Obama campaign.
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Yup, she is getting a pat on the butt from the Democrats that carried the messiah over the finish line and painted Sarah as a dumbo that was a hearbeat away from the Presidency. We should prowl the passing of this frickin’ award but it’s for all the obots anyway.
Great job Couric, you have lowered the bar for journalism to a debth that only Keith and Tingles can ‘dip’ to. (Following the dipStick King of O’bots.)
murphy 04.09.09 at 5:09 pm
sorry — out of the loop there for a couple hours for a meeting.
adding daily puma now — dont know what happened to it — it USED to be there . . .
hmmm . . .
brb.
BillieJo 04.09.09 at 5:11 pm
(Madam President Hillary Rodham) Clinton was there to accept the organization’s “Global Trailblazer” award for “her passionate commitment to promoting women’s rights and securing justice for all people around the world.” The award was presented to her by a former political opponent during Clinton’s time in the U.S. Senate, Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison (R-Tex.).
“Vital Voices is all about uniting women and working together for positive change,” said the Hutchinson. “[Hillary Clinton] has reached out to bring people around this common cause and has used her powerful voice to raise the voices of all women. … As presidential candidate last year, she made 18 million cracks in the ceiling and inspired women all over the world. As secretary of State, she is putting women’s rights at the top of her agenda.”
http://blog.hillarysvillage.net/
(They forgot some of her title)
persephone 04.09.09 at 5:12 pm
Iran moves closer to realizing nuclear ambitions…
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/apr/09/iran-nuclear-plant-opens
Maybe Obama needs to go there and bow.
NewOrleansPuma 04.09.09 at 5:12 pm
185pigpaws: As your reference and post so clearly point out:
“Human rights is an ideal not a priority”..Barack Lier Fraud Dictator Obama…April..2009.
NewOrleansPuma 04.09.09 at 5:15 pm
#188Billie Joe: Morris is a political whore and/or pimp..depending on who is paying what and when.
He uses truth to suit him and his payors and he uses lies in the same manner. His timing of both is important however…and just because he says something neither makes it a lie or the truth..but it always makes him a political whore or a pimp.
jenniforhillary 04.09.09 at 5:15 pm
Murphy, this post brought tears to my eyes–both sadness and anger at this fraud and respect for you. I forwarded it to as many non-lurkers that I know because this is the heart of the matter….beyond anything and everything this is the heart. What does it matter if human rights do not….
always proud to be a puma. always proud.
jenniforhillary 04.09.09 at 5:17 pm
sorry for the double post….new computer I don’t know how to use yet.
One of my new people–i.e. someone I am trying to bring to puma–told me that they were shocked by what they read here. Wanted to know why it wasn’t in the papers. Where do I start……oh, and they believe it every single word…..
persephone 04.09.09 at 5:17 pm
OHMFG! “Feminist performance art,” anyone?
Meet the Muffia
Frustrated by a lack of feminist debate, Sinead King and Katie O’Brien have been out on the streets flashing their merkins as the Muffia – the latest in a long line of outspoken female performance artists..
http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2009/apr/08/sinead-king-katie-obrien
jenniforhillary 04.09.09 at 5:20 pm
delle, I agree with you I watched that interview and it was perfect….
DancesWithPumas 04.09.09 at 5:20 pm
Great! That’s the way to bring attention to the way women are portrayed and treated by media!
gay gal 04.09.09 at 5:22 pm
persephone 04.09.09 at 5:17 pm
OMG. The picture on that link is so going on my refrigerator!
NewOrleansPuma 04.09.09 at 5:29 pm
pigpaws and all: Yes..I have used a new word to describe what is upon us…of Obama: Dictator. There…I said it again!
persephone 04.09.09 at 5:34 pm
gay gal LMAO
don’t let Zee get wind of it, she’ll try to make it a PUMA prowl
gay gal 04.09.09 at 5:38 pm
persephone 04.09.09 at 5:34 pm
Oh, I would probably go with her!
gay gal 04.09.09 at 5:45 pm
On the topic of this thread:
Here is the confirmation hearing of Hillary. The exchange between Barbara Boxer and Hillary will forever be etched into my head. Their exchange starts around the 1:55 mark. Listen to Hillary’s answer around the 2:00 mark. Her stance on Women’s Rights goes counterclockwise to “Human Rights is an idea, not a priority.”
http://www.c-span.org/Watch/watch.aspx?MediaId=HP-A-14186
DancesWithPumas 04.09.09 at 5:53 pm
Their exchange starts around the 1:55 mark. Listen to Hillary’s answer around the 2:00 mark.
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am I watching the right video?? Kerry has been yammering for three minutes already…and still going …
NewOrleansPuma 04.09.09 at 5:55 pm
Barack Obama…”dictator legibus faciendis et rei publicae constituendae”..given to him by this Congress..as in the Senate of Rome…
“dictator for the making of laws and the settling of the Constitution”..in line to be “Dictator perpetuas” ..Consul of the United States Plantation Resource of the New World Order…
Soon a new statue to rival that of Ramses of Egypt…
incense and candles free to those who serve this new god of nothingness…and bread…bread…you peons…bread for your rights…all.
DancesWithPumas 04.09.09 at 5:55 pm
6 minutes of Kerry… had to turn it off
gay gal 04.09.09 at 5:57 pm
One hour, fifty five minute mark.
DancesWithPumas 04.09.09 at 5:59 pm
ohhhhhhhhhhhh
I thought you meant 1 min 55 seconds
murphy 04.09.09 at 6:01 pm
questions posted,
take it upstairs!
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