So everyone can understand.
Judd Gregg owns stock in Bank of America — a lot of it. Last year his Bank of America stock was worth around $3 million dollars. Today, that stock is worth $450,000.
On Valentine’s Day last year, Bank of America shares were trading at $43.60. Last Wednesday Senator Gregg’s shares were worth $3.77 each. Today, with rumors flying that Geithner’s Treasury plans to keep rich people like Judd Gregg just as rich as they believe they deserve to be, Bank of America shares are going up. Right now a share costs $6.94. Yep, Geithner to the rescue of Gregg. Rich men smell money around Obama and Geithner and the stock market is responding.
Last year Judd Gregg’s bank account had $3 million dollars in it. Today it has $450,000. Judd Gregg opened his investment statement every month for a year with a sinking feeling. Hundreds of thousands of dollars of HIS MONEY up in SMOKE every single month. And at the end of a year, Judd Gregg sees that he lost $2.5 MILLION dollars.
To go from $3,000,000 to $450,000 is a massacre. He’s been wiped out, basically.
Again, let’s keep it simple so that the Screaming Maniacs who want to distract us with utter rubbish about “Communist Nationalization!!” can begin to understand. Bank of America is on the verge of collapse. In a free market, a failing company watches its stock value plummet and the people who OWN those stocks watch their own, personal net worth go right down with the ship.
That’s good ole fashioned American Capitalism, Baby. But Judd Gregg doesn’t like it. He wants the taxpayers to make Bank of America’s stock worth more so that he can begin to reverse his OWN PERSONAL LOSSES and have $3 million dollars in his bank account again instead of a measly $450K.
What O’logo and Geithner apparently are prepared to do is to take YOUR MONEY and put it in the private bank account of Judd Gregg. Their plan would send the stock prices of Bank of America and other institutions soaring again by using American taxpayers’ money to cover all the bank’s losses. We pay so that Judd Gregg doesn’t have to.
Judd Gregg wants his $2.5 MILLION dollars back and he thinks YOU should cough up the dough. It really is as simple as that.
When he voted as a Senator to approve $700 Billion dollars of tax-payer money to bail out Bank of America’s shareholders, was Judd Gregg voting for the people of New Hampshire, for the people who elected him to office, or was he voting for his own personal bank balance?
And this is the kind of person President O’Logo has handed our country over to.
I live close to New Hampshire, and I know more people than I’d want to count who work in the Massachusetts high-tech industry and live in Southern New Hampshire. When the tech bubble burst in 2001, lots of people I know personally who live in New Hampshire and maybe voted for Judd Gregg were wiped out. Their retirement funds lost up to 90% of their value. They lost their jobs, for a LONG time. Some of them switched fields, moved out of state — had to start over. Some of them lost their homes. These are regular, professional, hard-working people. It’s not their fault that so many of the companies they worked for went bankrupt and laid off their entire work forces on one horrible day, or that the stock prices of the tech companies they had invested in crashed through the floor. Nope. It’s never one person’s fault. So it’s not Judd Gregg’s fault either that Bank of America has brought itself to the brink of collapse.
But how come when it’s my neighbor Tom, who lost his job, his savings, and his house in 2002 when the bubble burst, no tax-payer funded bonanza is enacted to keep him securely in the upper middle class, but when it’s Judd Gregg’s wealth on the line we’re all supposed to pay up? Sometimes complicated political problems really AREN’T all that complicated and really CAN be boiled down to one simple statement: NO FAIR!
The U.S. Treasury could simply BUY EVERY SINGLE share of the country’s five biggest banks for LESS THAN the 2nd half of the TARP Bailout. Just buy them all! And then sell them back to the private sector tomorrow — to people like Judd Gregg even. I mean he’d still have $450,000 to play with — not as much as the $3 million he had last year, but ahem, America IS supposed to have a free market, no? That’s not nationalization. The banks would be back in the hands of private owners in less than a month. But the owners of the private hands would change a bit. People OTHER than Judd Gregg would have bigger pieces of the pie he likes to believe he deserves.
And that’s not okay with people like Judd Gregg. He’s the 24th richest senator. The other rich men and women in the U.S. Senate who have less than clean motives? Here’s a list of the 25 richest members. Why am I NOT SURPRISED that more than half of them are Democrats?
| Rank | Name | Average | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | Herb Kohl (D-Wis) | $336,885,513 | ||
| 2 | John Kerry (D-Mass) | $267,789,805 | ||
| 3 | Edward M. Kennedy (D-Mass) | $102,822,519 | ||
| 4 | Jay Rockefeller (D-WVa) | $90,713,011 | ||
| 5 | Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif) | $79,555,657 | ||
| 6 | Frank R. Lautenberg (D-NJ) | $79,051,090 | ||
| 7 | Lincoln D. Chafee (R-RI) | $42,943,055 | ||
| 8 | Elizabeth Dole (R-NC) | $37,226,568 | ||
| 9 | Mike DeWine (R-Ohio) | $37,041,716 | ||
| 10 | John McCain (R-Ariz) | $36,881,100 | ||
| 11 | Hillary Clinton (D-NY) | $30,756,004 | ||
| 12 | Lamar Alexander (R-Tenn) | $27,804,745 | ||
| 13 | Bill Frist (R) | $24,870,515 | ||
| 14 | Gordon H. Smith (R-Ore) | $23,352,570 | ||
| 15 | Richard C. Shelby (R-Ala) | $20,469,011 | ||
| 16 | Olympia J. Snowe (R-Maine) | $18,963,031 | ||
| 17 | Jeff Bingaman (D-NM) | $15,601,634 | ||
| 18 | Ben Nelson (D-Neb) | $13,383,027 | ||
| 19 | Johnny Isakson (R-Ga) | $13,203,037 | ||
| 20 | Tom Harkin (D-Iowa) | $7,895,035 | ||
| 21 | Kay Bailey Hutchison (R-Texas) | $7,881,552 | ||
| 22 | Evan Bayh (D-Ind) | $7,726,014 | ||
| 23 | Mark Dayton (D) | $7,628,210 | ||
| 24 | Judd Gregg (R-NH) | $6,446,039 | ||
| 25 | Maria Cantwell (D-Wash) | $6,181,006 |



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KarenWI 02.09.09 at 2:19 pm
Why am I not surprised that Herb Kohl is on top? Every term he has, quite literally, BOUGHT his way into congress by paying for 10 times more ads than his opponent out of his pocket.
I’m rather surprised that Rep Steve Kagen isn’t up there too, since he is a dr- one of the few dermotologists around- and he, also, has literally BOUGHT the elections the two terms he’s been in by doing the same thing Kohl has. (sigh)
KarenWI 02.09.09 at 2:19 pm
(from downstairs)
Apparently the general public is smarter than O is giving them credit for being?
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/pt_survey_toplines/february_2009/toplines_stimulus_package_february_6_7_2009
National Survey of 1,000 Likely Voters
Conducted February 6-7, 2009
By Rasmussen Reports
1* Generally speaking, do increases in government spending help the economy, hurt the economy, or have no impact on the economy?
35% Help
48% Hurt
7% No impact
10% Not sure
2* Generally speaking, do decreases in government spending help the economy, hurt the economy, or have no impact on the economy?
45% Help
29% Hurt
16% No impact
10% Not sure
3* As Congress debates the economic stimulus plan initially proposed by President Obama, would you like to see the plan include more tax cuts and less government spending, more government spending and less tax cuts, or would you rather see the plan pass pretty much as it is today?
62% More tax cuts and less government spending
14% More government spending and less tax cuts
20% Pass pretty much as it is today
5% Not sure
NOTE: Margin of Sampling Error, +/- 3 percentage points with a 95% level of confidence
KarenWI 02.09.09 at 2:22 pm
Duh! Of COURSE Rep Steve Kagen isn’t in there.. this is just a list of the SENATORS! Oh, by the way, Rep Kagen is a (D) also.
KarenWI 02.09.09 at 2:23 pm
Leaving for business the rest of the day now, but… not sure if anyone saw it downstairs or not, but has anyone heard from Mountainsong? Is she ok?
BillieJo 02.09.09 at 2:41 pm
The NY Times must really be on it’s last leg to stoop this low:
Many women — not too surprisingly — were dreaming about sex with the president.
http://warner.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/02/05/sometimes-a-president-is-just-a-president/
murphy 02.09.09 at 2:42 pm
have i mentioned today that I love cinie?
“However, being a Democrat was good, being black was getting better. Therefore, being a black Democrat was a no-brainer. And, like most people, I never gave it a conscious thought. I guess if I had to examine my assumptions, they’d go something like this; Democrats are good, Republicans suck. Democrats care about black men, so that means all black people, me included. Republicans must not care about black people, or, they’d be Democrats, so, they’re evil. Nobody cares about women, why worry about it?”
http://cinie.wordpress.com/2009/02/09/obaglow-fades-to-black/
p.s. mountainsong is fine — i talked with her via email today.
HP Boston 02.09.09 at 2:46 pm
Interesting piece in Newsweek.
Missions Critical
President Obama can’t handle the current crises alone. What world leaders must do to help.
Stanislaw Ciosek was once a member of the Polish communist regime that tried to suppress Lech Walesa’s Solidarity movement in the 1980s. It imposed martial law and arrested many of Solidarity’s leaders, but later negotiated the “roundtable” accords that led to the partly free elections in 1989. That ballot produced a landslide victory for Solidarity that signaled the end of one-party rule and the collapse of communism in Poland, triggering ripple effects throughout the region.
A few years later I met with Ciosek—then serving as the Polish ambassador in Moscow—and asked him what had prompted the Communist Party to take the risk of negotiating with Solidarity. With the economy imploding, mounting social unrest and no possibility that Mikhail Gorbachev would send Soviet troops to help with a new crackdown, he described the previous decade as a period “when it was obvious that our plane had lost its undercarriage, the engines were not working—but you had to make some sort of landing.” The roundtable constituted the party’s last hope of controlling the landing. Despite the fact that the negotiated settlement allowed the communists to retain a majority of uncontested parliamentary seats for themselves and their allies, the party still lost power. But the landing was soft enough to allow for a peaceful transfer of power without any violent retribution against the former rulers.
Ciosek’s metaphor comes to mind because of the breathtaking real-life emergency landing of the U.S. Airways flight 1549 in the Hudson River three days before Barack Obama’s inauguration. Pilot Chesley (“Sully”) Sullenberger, who made sure everyone aboard was safely off the plane before getting out himself, shrugged off the accolades for him and the crew afterward. “We were simply doing the jobs we were trained to do,” he said. But as other pilots have pointed out, it was a remarkable achievement to perform such a maneuver with both engines out without losing any of the 155 people on board. Sullenberger has been hailed as the “hero of the Hudson” for good reason: he demonstrated leadership and skill when it was most needed.
It’s the kind of leadership a lot of Americans—and many others around the world—feel has been sorely missing of late. Now that Barack Obama has taken office, it would be nice to believe that the new president can demonstrate a similar level of leadership and skill in piloting a much bigger plane. But no matter how well he performs, Obama won’t be able to handle all the current crises alone. In effect, he’ll need both American and allied copilots who can fly their own missions. And like Ciosek’s metaphorical and Sullenberger’s real planes, some of these flights will also end up making high-risk, emergency landings.
In dealing with the economic crisis, Obama and every other major political leader face a dual task. The first part concerns the mechanics of stimulus packages: determining their size and scope, and bargaining with opponents to produce deals that enjoy the broadest possible political support. The second part is equally vital: instilling a sense of confidence that these measures will actually produce results—if not a speedy recovery, at least allowing for a soft landing, adequate repairs and then preparations for a new takeoff. The current crisis has demonstrated once again how much economic performance is tied to human psychology: when investors and others expect an upturn, this increases the chances that it will happen. But the downside scenario can be similarly self-fulfilling.
In dealing with key foreign-policy challenges, Obama and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton have already tapped two co-pilots to go on separate missions. Former Senate majority leader George Mitchell got the always dicey Middle East portfolio, and he was promptly dispatched on his first foray into the region. Obama explained that this first trip would be largely a listening tour, but he also declared that Mitchell’s longer-term task will be to achieve “progress, not just photo ops.” The former senator from Maine earned international recognition by playing a key role in forging a peace deal in Northern Ireland, but his current assignment is far more daunting. While Hamas leaders have talked about their “high hopes” for dealing with the new administration, Mideast special envoys have a long record of frustrating, aborted missions.
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http://www.newsweek.com/id/183615
HP Boston 02.09.09 at 2:54 pm
Poor poor Gregg… I have barely $450,000 to retire on and he is hurting..YA BUT that was not his only stock that lost money.
WOW all those millions no wonder being in DC sucking off the public coffers is so lucrative. No wonder they will kill any one who gets in their way!!
That saying “money goes to money” “Money talks BS walks” more than a dimes worth of fact in that.
All the foxes live in the hen house, what are we to do???
HP Boston 02.09.09 at 2:58 pm
Is O’LOGO President becoming the pushy salesman that nobody likes?
HP Boston 02.09.09 at 3:01 pm
HP Boston 02.09.09 at 2:46 pm
Interesting piece in Newsweek.
Missions Critical
President Obama can’t handle the current crises alone. What world leaders must do to help.
WELL IS EVERYONE FINISHED THROWING UP??
murphy 02.09.09 at 3:03 pm
what to do HP?
keep exposing them.
i could spend a WEEK at Open Secrets.
Imagine if we tracked the investment of the richest 25 senators in the financial sector and calculated just how much money they actually have at stake in this boondoggle . . .
it’s going to to take time and effort, but I believe people really are waking up to how profoundly corrupt the system is.
pigpaws 02.09.09 at 3:15 pm
You know, you really can’t count McCain as having that much money. His wife is a beer heiress and from what I understand, she made him sign a pre-nup.
HP Boston 02.09.09 at 3:17 pm
it’s going to to take time and effort, but I believe people really are waking up to how profoundly corrupt the system is.
———-Ah time is running out while they are still covering his skinny ass! All the Dems are complicit in this boondoggle. And his skinny ass is as wooden as the puppet he is, Rome is burning…………..can he catch a spark?
HP Boston 02.09.09 at 3:19 pm
pigpaws 02.09.09 at 3:15 pm
You know, you really can’t count McCain as having that much money. His wife is a beer heiress and from what I understand, she made him sign a pre-nup.
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Or Kerry either I bet his wife is the billionaire IN CHARGE!
murphy 02.09.09 at 3:23 pm
all of those senators are married, and all of their fortunes are entwined with their spouses. from mccain to kerry to snowe — republican and democrat.
i dont know how much of cindy mccain’s wealth is invested in banks, but i sure as hell would like to know.
and would that knowledge deepen my understanding of the possible motives behind mccain’s votes? of course! as it should.
what if we learned that mccain voted against a measure that would shore up his wife and his personal wealth? now that would be principled! same thing with the supposed Republican free market phony Gregg.
the rich republicans are a bunch of Free Market Phonies.
the rich democrats are Populist Phonies —
and what do those Dems and Repubs have in common, aside from being rich that is? yep — they’re phonies.
John McCain most certainly DOES belong on that list, just as much as John Kerry does.
Luckyseven 02.09.09 at 3:23 pm
I apologize.that this is way off topic – (was topic few days ago). However, I am in the midst of preparing for a large family occasion and had and still have lots to do.
It is just that this statement truly bothered me and I felt that I had to answer it.
“Instead of offering Gazans haven in the United States, maybe we should stop enabling Israel to bomb the crap out of them in the first place”
Just what is meant by enabling Israel? And what does to bomb the crap out of the mmean? Are you implying that it is okay for Israelis to be targets of hamas rockets for 8 years, and Israel should just sit there like an obedient servant and do nothing? Do you mean that just targeting terrorists is not permissible? Do you mean that because hamas would not build bomb shelters for their citizens, that it is perfectly ok for hamas to bomb the crap out of Israel (including suicide bombers). Do you mean that the United States should not supply Israel – that the United States should ignore and abandon the only democracy in that part of the world? What are you really thinking? Do you honestly believe that Israel doesn’t want to live in peace – do you honestly believe that Israel should have continued to let Hamas send rockets into her land where the children are so afraid – where religious services and life revolves around bomb shelters – where one has only 15 seconds to get to a shelter after a siren blows – where Israel should just allow a war of attrition and thus ENABLE hamas to do whatever they want. Have you ever looked at a map of the mideast. Do you realize how big Israel is compared to her arab neighbors? Do you realize that when the United Nations created the state of Israel, that it was the arabs who immediately invaded her. Who started the other wars? Not Israel – The people there don’t want war, but by the same token they will not allow anyone to trod upon them – send rockets, suicide bombers and have a charter that refuses to recognize the state created by the UN and only desires to push her into the sea. Do you have any idea of the contributions that Israel has made to the world – yes this tiny country that looks like a needle in a haystack when you look at the map –
What happened when Israel gave up Gaza – so called peace for land – what happened was that rockets started being fired indiscriminately into Israel from Gaza. What “enemy” calls people on the telephone to tell them that there will be bombs dropped on terrorist targets and the civilians should get out of there.
Would you also say that the United States should not enable Saudi Arabia, Kenya, Somalia, (who incidentally we are getting loads of people from to work in our factories) or countries who refuse to send troops to Iraq and Afghanistan to support OUR war or countries who verbally attack us in the UN. Do we not enable Chavez and Venezuela by buying oil from them? Now we are enabling Syria by selling them airplane parts.
Why is it always the fault of the Israelis = Why is it that the media doesn’t report about how hamas uses innocent civilians, schools and hospitals as shields – Israel targets TERRORISTS and she cannot control the hamas faction that chooses to protect itself with civilians because they know that Israel has high morals when it comes to life. hamas targets anything – be they children or adults who are non military
Do you know your history?
In 1923, the British divided Palestine into two administrative districts. Jews would be permitted only west of the Jordan River. In effect, the British had “chopped off” 75% of the originally proposed Jewish Palestinian homeland to form an Arab Palestinian nation called Trans-Jordan (meaning “across the Jordan River”). Trans-Jordan would be renamed “Jordan” in 1946. Thus the Palestinian Arabs were awarded their “Arab Palestinian” homeland. The remaining 25% of Palestine (west of the Jordan River) was to be the Jewish Palestinian homeland. However, sharing was not part of the Arab psychological makeup, neither then nor now.
Encouraged and incited by growing Arab nationalism throughout the Middle East, the Arabs of that small remaining Palestinian territory west of the Jordan River launched never-ending murderous attacks upon the Jewish Palestinians in an effort to drive them out. Most terrifying were the Hebron massacres of 1929 and later during the 1936-39 “Arab Revolt.” The British at first tried to maintain order but soon (due to the large oil deposits being discovered throughout the Arab Middle East) turned a blind eye. It became painfully clear to the Palestinian Jews that they must fight the Arabs and drive out the British.
Any possibility for peace was lost the day the Arabs orchestrated their true objectives by cunningly redirecting the debate from the Arab-Israel conflict to that of a Palestinian-Israeli conflict. From this emerged the ill-conceived idea of “trading land for peace.” Today, this shop worn illusion continues to be the obsessive pursuit of the US State Department, not withstanding the fact that it has no potential for success.
http://www.think-israel.org/rosehistory.html
http://middleeastfacts.com/Articles/how-did-israel-get-its-current-borders.php
In 1947, when Israel became a state, she got a lot less land than the Balfour declaration had promised. A lot of what she was promised went to Jordan. Do you know what kind of land Israel got – mostly desert. It was only through years of hard work that the Israelis were able to transform desert into flourishing cities, farms, hospitals, schools, medical research, etc. Israel never told the Arabs to leave, unlike the Arab countries where the Jews who lived there for centuries had to leave. By the way, all arabs are welcome and treated in Israeli hospitals. Can anyone say the same for Arab hospitals? Israeli and Arab children go to school together – Can anyone say the same for schoolchildren in Arab countries? Arabs serve in the Knesset. Arabs vote in Israel.
Is it one’s opinion that the troubles in the mid east stem from the Israelis success on such a small piece of land -One must put Israel’s size into perspective. Still, Israel is small compared with most countries around the world, most states in the U.S. and most other countries in its region. Israel would fit into the state of California – Israel is 20330 km² (source), California is 403932 . Israel is the 100th smallest country with less than 1/1000 of the worlds population.
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Do you know what Israel has contributed to the world?
Research Progress: New Studies and Breakthroughs
Development of Proteins for use in treating wounds and tissue reconstruction
Development of influenza vaccines
developing a nose drop that will provide a 5 year flu vaccine coverage
Development of antibodies to complement skin cancer treatment
Development of fracture treatment and bone building using stem cells
Development of treatments for diseases of the nervous system using embryonic stem cells
– Genetic treatments for cancer, anemia and genetic diseases
Development of methods of diagnosing precursors of cancerous growths
Israeli scientists have created a DNA nano computer that not only detects cancer cells, but also releases drugs that specifically target and treat the cancer cells.
Treatments using umbilical cord blood cells
Development of immunization for Krohn’s Disease
Development of proteins used in the treatment of stroke damage
Development of technology to improve the quality of MRI imaging.
Israel’s Given Imaging have given doctors the pill camera – an ingestible video camera – so small that it fits into a pill – used to view small intestines from the inside for cancer and digestive disorders.
Heart Research –
created a biological pacemaker which corrects faulty heart rhythm
created a revolutionary new drug developed by Hebrew University which prevents reclogging of coronary arteries after undergoing balloon therapy
Israeli stem cell technology is being used in the United States to regenerate heart tissue.
have developed a new device that directly helps the heart pump blood – this device synchronized with a camera helps doctors diagnose the heart’s mechanical operation through a sophisticated system of sensors.
Development of new drugs
Copaxone which treats multiple sclerosis and rosagaline which treats parkinsons disease were developed by Israeli Teva Pharmaceutical.
Israeli scientist developed the first fully computerized – no radiation diagnostic instrumentation for breast cancer
Instant messaging was developed in 1996 by 4 young Israelis.
Israel designed the airline industry’s most impenetrable flight security – the US now looks to Israel for advice on how to handle airborne security threats.
Israel is the only country in the world that entered the 21st century with more trees than in the 20th century which is more remarkable because this was achieved in an area considered most desert.
Christopher Reeves said “Israel is one of the countries that is leading the way in medical research. Israeli researchers are some of the best in the world.
All of this and more, occurs while Israel is engaged in regular wars with an implacable enemy that seeks its destruction and an economy continuously under strain by having to spend more per capita on its own protection than any other country on this earth.
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I guess that Israel is not the shitty state that Joseph Cannon called it, nor does it hurt anyone if the United States enables it. It is only to everyone’s benefit that this state exists.
If Israel were not a Jewish state, but a Christian state would you still say that the United States should stop enabling it?? (As it is, muslims are terrorizing Christians who live in Jerusalem.) If Israel were not a Jewish state, do you think that the palestinians would send rockets into it after Israel gave up Gaza? If Israel were not a Jewish state, there wouldn’t be a hamas charter calling for its destruction. If Israel were not a Jewish state, the world would be in an uproar if Palestinians were sending rockets into it for 8 years
If Israel were not a Jewish state, there couldn’t be any concocted claims that the palestinians are starving and that Israel doesn’t allow humanitarian aid to come into Gaza. As in a previous article that I posted, UNWRA stopped all aid to Gaza because hamas was stealing it. Where is the uproar over hamas stealing supplies from their own people?
If Israel were not a Jewish state, do you think that there would be so many complaints about their borders, checkpoints and security wall? On July 9, 2004, the International Court of Justice (ICJ) ruled that Israel’s security barrier was a violation of international humanitarian law and human rights law This is such hypocrisy! What about security walls in other countries – the US wants a security wall between us and Mexico =- What about the barrier between India and Pakistan and others. ?http://www.meforum.org/article/ it is ok to build a security wall on our border with Mexico, but Israel cannot do that. Do you know that the Israeli security wall has cut down on suicide bombers?
If ISRAEL WERE NOT A JEWISH STATE, THERE WOULD BE NO DEMOCRATIC COUNTRY IN THAT REGION. IF ISRAEL WERE NOT A JEWISH STATE, THE UNITED STATES WOULD NOT HAVE ANY LOYAL FRIENDS IN THAT REGION. IT IS ONLY BECAUSE ISRAEL IS A JEWISH STATE, THAT PEOPLE BLAME HER FOR THE PROBLEMS IN THE MIDEAST.
Finally, some very profound words of a great stateswoman, Golda Meir,
“Peace will come when the Arabs will love their children more than they hate us”
At a 1969 press conference in London, she added: “When peace comes we will perhaps in time be able to forgive the Arabs for killing our sons, but it will be harder for us to forgive them for having forced us to kill their sons.”
As to Israel’s military successes, she responded: “Our secret weapon: No alternative.” She would also often use the statement: We have no alternative
Also in the 1972 interview with Oriana Fallaci, she could reflect: “There’s no difference between killing and making decisions by which you send others to kill. It’s exactly the same thing. And maybe it’s worse.”
“You cannot shake hands with a clenched fist .”
She was often asked if she felt limited because she was a woman, not a man in government. She would respond by saying: “I don’t know — I’ve never tried to be a man.”
In a similar vein, when questioned about how it felt to be named Israel’s first woman Foreign Minister, she replied: “I don’t know. I was never a man minister. She also would say: Whether women are better than men I cannot say – but I can say they are certainly no worse”.
When there was an outbreak in assaults against women at night, a minister in the cabinet suggested a curfew to keep women in after dark. But it’s the men who are attacking the women, Golda responded. “If there’s to be a curfew, let the men stay at home, not the women.”
Heneri 02.09.09 at 3:31 pm
Thank You Luckyseven.
There are so many things that are misunderstood about Israel. One is that the Palestinians are actually Jordanians. They should have been welcomed into Jordan and cared for as refugees following the 6 day war. The Israelis offered some assistance which was mostly refused. The offered transport to Jordan, again refused by both Jordan and the refugees.
In the end game, the Palestinians are pawns in a dangerous game. The current generation has lived its entire life in this constant state of strife, and knows nothing else. I feel sad for them.
VTcat 02.09.09 at 3:31 pm
Hello, Don’t know if you are interested but Fox has put up a thread on their Fox Opinion Page. It’s called House and Senate ‘Spendulus’ Bills: Hunt for the Bacon! and, although comments are off, they are soliciting email input. I have no idea what they intend to do with the input they receive, but thought you might like to know. If not, sorry for disturbing you.
VTcat 02.09.09 at 3:32 pm
Apologies, here’s the link:
http://foxforum.blogs.foxnews.com/2009/02/09/youdecide_stimulus_bacon/
HP Boston 02.09.09 at 3:36 pm
When there was an outbreak in assaults against women at night, a minister in the cabinet suggested a curfew to keep women in after dark. But it’s the men who are attacking the women, Golda responded. “If there’s to be a curfew, let the men stay at home, not the women.”
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Golda is a shero I admired the wise woman of Israel.
There’s no difference between killing and making decisions by which you send others to kill. It’s exactly the same thing. And maybe it’s worse.”
I am impressed with all the wonderful things we can thank Israel for bringing to our world.
Israel is also powerful, the have nuclear power.
Nijma 02.09.09 at 3:42 pm
I just love this photo of pigs swimming.
http://rolcats.com/2009/01/28/36/#comments
pigpaws 02.09.09 at 3:52 pm
Well, well, nationalized healthcare has been stealthfully put into the pork bill. Without debate or discussion. Which is intentional.
I don’t know about you, but I do not want government hacks dictating to me or my doctor about my healthcare. Especially in the likes of Daschle (who advised Obama on this), Obama, his wife, or any number of other corrupt government politicians.
Doctors are fed-up enough with the bureaucracy and insurance hacks telling them how they can or cannot do their jobs, while taking millions to keep costs down, at patient expense. This will be the last straw. We will be left with mediocrity at best and just like the UK and Canada, they will import doctors from third world countries. The best and brightest are already leaving the profession.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aLzfDxfbwhzs
Ruin Your Health With the Obama Stimulus Plan
by Betsy McCaughey Feb. 9 (Bloomberg) —
…”Tragically, no one from either party is objecting to the health provisions slipped in without discussion. These provisions reflect the handiwork of Tom Daschle, until recently the nominee to head the Health and Human Services Department.
Senators should read these provisions and vote against them because they are dangerous to your health. (Page numbers refer to H.R. 1 EH, pdf version).”….
…”But the bill goes further. One new bureaucracy, the National Coordinator of Health Information Technology, will monitor treatments to make sure your doctor is doing what the federal government deems appropriate and cost effective. The goal is to reduce costs and “guide” your doctor’s decisions (442, 446). These provisions in the stimulus bill are virtually identical to what Daschle prescribed in his 2008 book, “Critical: What We Can Do About the Health-Care Crisis.” According to Daschle, doctors have to give up autonomy and “learn to operate less like solo practitioners.” …
Keeping doctors informed of the newest medical findings is important, but enforcing uniformity goes too far.
New Penalties
Hospitals and doctors that are not “meaningful users” of the new system will face penalties. “Meaningful user” isn’t defined in the bill. That will be left to the HHS secretary, who will be empowered to impose “more stringent measures of meaningful use over time” (511, 518, 540-541)
What penalties will deter your doctor from going beyond the electronically delivered protocols when your condition is atypical or you need an experimental treatment? The vagueness is intentional. In his book, Daschle proposed an appointed body with vast powers to make the “tough” decisions elected politicians won’t make.
The stimulus bill does that, and calls it the Federal Coordinating Council for Comparative Effectiveness Research (190-192). The goal, Daschle’s book explained, is to slow the development and use of new medications and technologies because they are driving up costs. He praises Europeans for being more willing to accept “hopeless diagnoses” and “forgo experimental treatments,” and he chastises Americans for expecting too much from the health-care system.
Elderly Hardest Hit
Daschle says health-care reform “will not be pain free.” Seniors should be more accepting of the conditions that come with age instead of treating them. That means the elderly will bear the brunt.
Medicare now pays for treatments deemed safe and effective. The stimulus bill would change that and apply a cost- effectiveness standard set by the Federal Council (464).
The Federal Council is modeled after a U.K. board discussed in Daschle’s book. This board approves or rejects treatments using a formula that divides the cost of the treatment by the number of years the patient is likely to benefit. Treatments for younger patients are more often approved than treatments for diseases that affect the elderly, such as osteoporosis.
In 2006, a U.K. health board decreed that elderly patients with macular degeneration had to wait until they went blind in one eye before they could get a costly new drug to save the other eye. It took almost three years of public protests before the board reversed its decision.
Hidden Provisions
If the Obama administration’s economic stimulus bill passes the Senate in its current form, seniors in the U.S. will face similar rationing. Defenders of the system say that individuals benefit in younger years and sacrifice later. “….
…”Hiding health legislation in a stimulus bill is intentional. Daschle supported the Clinton administration’s health-care overhaul in 1994, and attributed its failure to debate and delay. A year ago, Daschle wrote that the next president should act quickly before critics mount an opposition. “If that means attaching a health-care plan to the federal budget, so be it,” he said. “The issue is too important to be stalled by Senate protocol.”
More Scrutiny Needed
On Friday, President Obama called it “inexcusable and irresponsible” for senators to delay passing the stimulus bill. In truth, this bill needs more scrutiny.
The health-care industry is the largest employer in the U.S. It produces almost 17 percent of the nation’s gross domestic product. Yet the bill treats health care the way European governments do: as a cost problem instead of a growth industry. Imagine limiting growth and innovation in the electronics or auto industry during this downturn. This stimulus is dangerous to your health and the economy.
GOSUEF4HIL 02.09.09 at 3:55 pm
Not sure if anyone has noted this yet- but this is yet another outrageous example of what the Obama administration is up to (although Obama apparently doesn’t know either- I think this is proof that he is nothing more than a puppet)
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/first100days/2009/02/09/gop-sounds-alarm-obama-decision-census-white-house/
Please blog about this on other sites- people need to know what they are up to.
I am putting on boots and going over to the Kos and Huffy to post the link too.
pigpaws 02.09.09 at 4:05 pm
Regarding my above and the intentionally not dicussed or debated nationalization of healthcare.
It is here folks.
Revolution.
Socialism.
Eugenics.
If they tell the elderly to do their duty by Obama and go off and die, how long before they tell folks like my Downs brother, who by the nature of trisomy 21, has a weak immune system requiring more healthcare, to do the same?
And what about those that choose risky behavior that gives them AIDS? Oh wait…since that is mostly preventable and requires behavior adjustment, that won’t count.
Nijma 02.09.09 at 4:16 pm
#17 Henri:There are so many things that are misunderstood about Israel. One is that the Palestinians are actually Jordanians. They should have been welcomed into Jordan and cared for as refugees following the 6 day war.
Not true. Jordanians are not Palestinians. Jordan is on the east side of the Jordan River. Palestine is on the west side of the Jordan river. They are closely related but they are not the same.
Jordan is a poor country, but it has always been generous about refugees–Saudis, Circassians, Armenians, Palestinians, and now Iraqis.
There were two major migrations of Palestinians into Jordan, one after the 1948 war and one after the 1967 war. The population of Jordan is now 60% Palestinian. In 1969, the Palestinian Hamas started a civil war in Jordan. Jordan’s King Hussein was shot at, one of his military escorts was killed, and the king was the target of multiple assassination attempts. At the end of the war, which King Hussein won, Hamas was kicked out of Jordan. Jordan still hates Hamas as much as Israel does. (Remember Hamas? They’re the ones who tried to take over the Palestinian government by force and are now running Gaza into the ground.)
In spite of this, King Hussein offered Jordanian citizenship and a Jordanian passport to any Palestinian who wanted one. The other countries that have accepted Palestinian refugees-Egypt, Lebanon, and Syria–none of them will give citizenship to Palestinians. Yet, the right ring Israeli crowd loves to single out Jordan and expect them–without even enough water for their own people–to absorb even more Palestinians who will be forced out of their homes after the next war and the next.
In Jordan, the Palestinians live in refugee camps (yes, I have been in them) or in all Palestinian communities. There is intermarriage–I met a man who had one Palestinian and three Jordanian wives–but it is rare. When Palestinians try to integrate into Jordanian life, they are not accepted.
BillieJo 02.09.09 at 4:19 pm
Sorry pigpaws but Health Care is something I do believe in, and especially for those that do not have it. I am for Hillary’s Universal Health care plan but O’ego doesn’t have coverage for that in the plan. Some is for kids without healthcare and I think the rest is for online records that I do not trust keeping this private. It’s one thing to be against Universal Health Care if you have healthcare, can afford it and/or have no heath issues. My 25 year old son has no health care, has a chronic disease and we can’t afford health care that covers a pre-existing illness.
HP Boston 02.09.09 at 4:29 pm
Stocks drift lower, waiting for bank plan
But General Electric and Bank of America are pushing higher as investors bet Treasury Secretary Geithner’s plan will help both companies. Apple may close above $100 for the first time since December. McDonald’s posts strong January sales.
[Related content: stocks, investments, stock market, financial crisis, economy]
By Charley Blaine and Elizabeth Strott
Stocks were down slightly today because, in theory, investors are waiting for Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner to announce the Obama administration’s plans to overhaul the banking system.
At 3:10 p.m. ET, the Dow Jones industrials were down 45 points to 8,235. The Standard & Poor’s 500 Index was off 3 points to 865, and the Nasdaq Composite Index was off 9 points to 1,583.
However, this is one of those days when the major averages are masking the story.
Consider General Electric (GE, news, msgs), up 13.3% to $12.56 this afternoon. The reason: The Street is cheering the possibility that the industrial giant will cut its quarterly dividend, now 31 cents a share. The pressure to cut the dividend has grown as the recession has deepened, and GE’s financial business is struggling.
The stock has dropped nearly a third this year on worries that GE would stubbornly defend the dividend when conserving cash is probably a better tactic right now.
GE announced Friday it would leave the dividend at 31 cents but carefully said it would evaluate its position going forward.
And Bank of America (BAC, news, msgs), which jumped 27% on Friday on hopes the Geithner plan will work, was up an additional 12.8% to $6.86 today.
Or consider Apple (AAPL, news, msgs), battered because of worries about CEO Steve Jobs’ health. A bullish earnings report has given the stock new life. Shares were up 2.4% to $102.29 this afternoon. If the price holds, it would be Apple’s first close above $100 since Dec. 9.
Or examine the mixed picture in energy stocks. Oil had been holding above $40 a barrel for several weeks, but it fell 61 cents to $39.56 a barrel. Exxon Mobil (XOM, news, msgs) was off 1.9% to $78.90. Transocean (RIG, news, msgs) was up1.3% to $60.50.
Meanwhile, gasoline futures are up 24% this year, suggesting retail gasoline prices are headed higher.
Waiting for the banking plan
Geithner will announce President Barack Obama’s “massive overhaul” on Tuesday, rather than today, after the Treasury decided that the economic stimulus package — still under discussion in the Senate — should take priority.
YUP Gregg will get a boost on his stocks…………
LeeinUSA 02.09.09 at 4:32 pm
Severin: Porkulus includes MEDICAL CARE RATIONING based upon person’s age
WTKK-FM | 2/9/09 | Severin
Jay Severin is on now on WTKK-FM, in Boston.
Severin, a “recovering lawyer,” claims that part of Porkulus includes rationing medical care by a formula based upon a patient’s age. The older the patient, the further back in line a person stands for any treatment. The bill includes a National Healthcare Office and National Healthcare Coordinator (a WHAT?). ACORN’s $4.1B remains in the bill. ACORN is the current iteration of the Black Panthers.
BillieJo 02.09.09 at 4:35 pm
LeeinUSA
Severin: Porkulus includes MEDICAL CARE RATIONING based upon person’s age
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Please find it in the HR 1 bill and post it. I don’t believe something just because some radio hack says it.
DancesWithPumas 02.09.09 at 4:37 pm
“ACORN is the current iteration of the Black Panthers.”
Huh? Whaaa?
TexasTigress 02.09.09 at 4:42 pm
I am the current iteration of a Tiger .
BillieJo 02.09.09 at 4:44 pm
TexasTigress
I am the current iteration of a Tiger with your feather!
BillieJo 02.09.09 at 4:46 pm
No news…….where’s blago?
Reid said they will all stay in DC until the PorkPie is passed.
PorkPie with a side of Kool-aid.
TexasTigress 02.09.09 at 4:50 pm
Billiejo , feather in one hand , chainsaw in the other – look out ! Where the heck did I put that darn honey stick ?!
kat in your hat 02.09.09 at 4:50 pm
OT (but wanted to post this in case I can’t get back online in time)
“Tune In For Paulie Abeles’ No Quarter Radio Show Tonight at 9 p.m. ET”
Please join us tonight for our guest, famed author Himilce Novas, who will discuss “debunking myths and prejudices about Latinos in the US and how to survive (and thrive) in a sexist world.”
As a human rights activist, Novas was a founding member of the National Organization for Women (NOW). She continues to work on behalf of women and those in the GBLT community. Novas was featured in the book, Feminists Who Changed America, 1963-1975
(2006). She is a member of Veteran Feminists of America.”
http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/02/09/tune-in-for-paulie-abeles-no-quarter-radio-show-tonight-at-9-pm-et/#more-13826
DancesWithPumas 02.09.09 at 4:53 pm
GBLT = GLBT
bqueen 02.09.09 at 4:54 pm
Lee #28 The older the patient, the further back in line a person stands for any treatment.
guess that would make the babies that survived an abortion first in line. Something new for Obama!
Seriously – sorry for my sick joke – I hope this is not true…really…
BillieJo 02.09.09 at 4:57 pm
Truth mixed with humor……..something PUMAs are good at:
Barack Obama On The Road To Ruin
Barack Obama, like a circus clown, is taking his flim-flam “stimulus” scam on the road. The road Obama is traveling on is the Road To Ruin.
The bamboozlement tour, starts by annoying the citizens of Elkhart, Indiana. Obama will drone on in a town hall to desperate citizens of Elkhart which has an unemployment rate of over 15%. Obama will employ fear to force through his save Dimocrats in 2010 “stimulus” scam.
Obama will also torment the nation tonight. There will be a news conference at 8:00 p.m. (ET). Big Media will fawn and fantasize about having sex with Obama.
http://www.hillaryis44.org/2009/02/09/barack-obama-on-the-road-to-ruin/
Cape Hatteras 02.09.09 at 5:01 pm
A problem with the health care system no one else has brought up is the hospital desks to beds ratio . How many administrators per patients are there . I suspect 5 . So when you get in that bed those five people get on your payroll .
DancesWithPumas 02.09.09 at 5:01 pm
I read an article that said ologo was on big media’s last nerve… they arent happy with the lost advertising revenue every time oblahblah jumps on the tube (three times since taking office)… he’s beginning to look like that Ronco sales pitch guy… it slices, it dices… it does your laundry…
Zee 02.09.09 at 5:08 pm
“There is intermarriage–I met a man who had one Palestinian and three Jordanian wives–but it is rare. When Palestinians try to integrate into Jordanian life, they are not accepted.”
So no one wants them, hm? Did the other three wives snub the poor Palestinian part of the harem? I’m sorry to poke fun, but hey…I’m with Golda.
Curfew the men. If they rape…cut it off. End of one problem.
TexasTigress 02.09.09 at 5:11 pm
‘he’s beginning to look like that Ronco sales pitch guy… it slices, it dices… it does your laundry…”
O’shamwow – everytime you see him you’ll say Oh whatta sham
O’billymays – Obillymays here to tell you about my brand new stimulus package – but wait – there’s more ..
Ex-DemInVA 02.09.09 at 5:28 pm
GOSUEF4HIL 02.09.09 at 3:55 pm
Not sure if anyone has noted this yet- but this is yet another outrageous example of what the Obama administration is up to (although Obama apparently doesn’t know either- I think this is proof that he is nothing more than a puppet)
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/first100days/2009/02/09/gop-sounds-alarm-obama-decision-census-white-house/
I’m glad that you posted this. I mentioned this on the blog the other day that I had heard about it. I’m glad that someone is speaking up on it. This is really dangerous. They are doing it now while Americans are fixated on this Stimulus pork bill.
BillieJo 02.09.09 at 5:28 pm
Just found this on Hillary’s campaign debt:
Well as the LA Times article below tells us – in the end the Hillary debt had been nearly paid off when her final request email went out around January 16. While she had to forgive $13 million that she had loaned her campaign, the rest of the debt had been reduced to $6 million of which 5 million was owed to Mark Penn, “her fired political strategist who had the problem/opportunity of working for two bosses until they found out”.
Getting the debt down to $1 million by Jan 16 for bills to vendors other than Mark Penn was a great achievement, and when the final reports are filed for the campaign we may find it was all paid off, possibly except for Penn, before her being sworn in as Sec. of State. Congratulations to all PUMAs and other supporters of Hillary.
http://texashillblog.blogspot.com/2009/02/hillarys-campaign-debt-congrats-pumas.html
Ex-DemInVA 02.09.09 at 5:30 pm
I heard this afternoon while listening to a radio show that Americans are not in support of this Stimulus pork bill. Apparently, they are calling their Congressional leaders and are opposed to it by a margin of 100 to 1!!!!
DancesWithPumas 02.09.09 at 5:33 pm
http://cinie.wordpress.com/
Zee 02.09.09 at 5:34 pm
Murphy, that is a great idea to connect the dots like that. Remember the “bird flu” scare? The useless “Tamiflu” vaccine that the government ordered was partially owned by a company Donald Rumsfeld used to be chairman of and still owned stock in:
http://usliberals.about.com/b/2005/11/01/donald-rumsfeld-to-profit-millions-from-bush-spending-on-avian-bird-flu-pandemic.htm
“Rumsfeld served as Gilead (Research)’s chairman from 1997 until he joined the Bush administration in 2001, and he still holds a Gilead stake valued at between $5 million and $25 million, according to federal financial disclosures filed by Rumsfeld.”
Perhaps less well known is that Rumsfeld also profited from Aspartme, and the swine flu vaccine:
From the November 2003 Idaho Observer:
http://proliberty.com/observer/20031113.htm
…Then and current Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld was reportedly the architect of the plan to ensure that, “every man, woman and child” in America be vaccinated against the swine flu in 1976.
Within a few weeks, some 47 million Americans were vaccinated with the experimental vaccine. The program resulted in at least 113 deaths, nearly 4,000 cases of paralysis and an epidemic of Guillean Barre — a polio-like disease….Insider reports indicate Rumsfeld orchestrated the swine flu fiasco to “add some spark to the campaign of President Ford…” wrote author and marine biologist William Sargent.
In 1978, Rumsfeld became CEO of the G.W. Searle Corp. By June, 1981, his political muscle overcame science so that the deadly neurotoxic artificial sweetener aspartame could achieve U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) approval.
The FDA has linked aspartame to 92 symptoms including paralysis, blindness, neuroses, sexual dysfunction, asthma, diabetes, chronic fatigue and death…
Zee 02.09.09 at 5:36 pm
So how does Rumsfeld differ from those peanutbutter execs who sent out product they knew was contaminated and killed consumers?
If we went out and killed 100 people to line our pockets like Rumsfeld and the peanut execs did, would we be exempt from prosecution?
Zee 02.09.09 at 5:39 pm
#24 pigpaws…
“If they tell the elderly to do their duty by Obama and go off and die…”
We have enough reality-based problems to deal with not to need to resort to histrionic speculation.
BillieJo 02.09.09 at 5:42 pm
Sorry this is a little long but it might make the PorkPie more visible:
http://michellemalkin.com/2009/02/09/the-golf-cart-stimulus/
I wouldn’t take out all the pork, a little bacon is okay but some is carnage.
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Here’s a handy list of pork in the Sellout Substitute Amendment from the Turncoat Caucus:
* 2 billion Blagojevich earmark for FutureGen near zero emissions powerplant in Mattoon, IL
* $2 billion for manufacturing advanced batteries for hybrid cars
* $3 million for purchasing “neighborhood electric vehicles” (golf carts)
* $5.5 billion for making federal buildings “green” (including $448 million for DHS HQ)
* $650 million for the DTV transition coupon program
* $1.2 billion for summer jobs for youth
· $200 million for workplace safety in USDA facilities
* $200 million for public computer centers at community colleges and libraries
* $75 million for the Smithsonian Institution
* $750 earmark for the National Computer Center in MD
* $224 million for International Boundary and Water Commission – U.S. and Mexico
* $198 million to design and furnish the DHS headquarters
* $10 million to fight Mexican gunrunners
* $850 million for Amtrak
* $100 million for lead paint hazard reduction
* $39 billion slush fund for “state fiscal stabilization” bailout
* $275 million for flood prevention
* $65 million for watershed rehabilitation
* $255 million for “priority procurements” at Coast Guard (polar ice breaker)$650 million for abandoned mine sites
* $1.3 billion for NASA (including $450 million for “science” at NASA)
* $100 million to clean up sites used in early U.S. atomic energy program
* $10 million for urban canals
* $1.5 billion for carbon capture projects under sec. 703 of P.L. 110-140 (though the original section only authorizes $1 billion for five years)
* $300 million for hybrid and electric cars for federal employees
* $500 million for State and local fire stations
* $180 million for construction of Bureau of Land Management facilities
* $500 million for wildland fire management
* $110 million for construction for the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service
* $522 million for construction for the Bureau of Indian Affairs
* $412 million for CDC headquarters
* $500 million earmark for NIH facilities in Bethesda, MD
* $100 million for constructing U.S. Marshalls office buildings
* $300 million for constructing Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) office buildings
* $800 million for constructing Federal Prison System buildings and facilities
* $307 million for constructing National Institute for Standards and Technology (NIST) office buildings
* $1 billion for administrative costs and construction of National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) office buildings
* $160 million for “volunteers” at the Corp. for National and Community Service
TrishfromCanada 02.09.09 at 5:46 pm
pigpaws 02.09.09 at 3:52 pm [edit]
Doctors are fed-up enough with the bureaucracy and insurance hacks telling them how they can or cannot do their jobs, while taking millions to keep costs down, at patient expense. This will be the last straw. We will be left with mediocrity at best and just like the UK and Canada, they will import doctors from third world countries. The best and brightest are already leaving the profession.
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News to me about Canada imorting doctors from third world countries. I’d suggest you check out the number of third world doctors who come to Canaa hoping to practice here but do NOT meet our qualifications, nor do they have the understanding of our medical practices. Sure we have plenty of third world doctors here, they work as cabbies and do the song and dance of why can’t they practice here in Canada.
And the UK has some of the best doctors involved in research.
Zee 02.09.09 at 5:47 pm
#29 BillieJo 02.09.09 at 4:35 pm
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Please find it in the HR 1 bill and post it. I don’t believe something just because some radio hack says it.
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Amen, BillieJo! Especially what the likes of Jay Severin says! The “medical rationing” storyline that is being dumped here en force will turn out to be a deliberate misinfo campaign, just like Michelle Malkin’s “poor white male victims” nonstory.
I remember hearing one Severin rant while I was in a store I then refused to patronize after that. He was going on and on about all of Bill Clinton’s crimes and felonies. You know, all the ones he “got away” with because the full force of the rightwing and MSM nonstop 8 year witch-hunt was unable to snag that wily master criminal!
BillieJo 02.09.09 at 5:47 pm
* $160 million for “volunteers” at the Corp. for National and Community Service
WTF is this?????????? Is this the new ACORN???????
TrishfromCanada 02.09.09 at 5:50 pm
BillieJo 02.09.09 at 5:47 pm
* $160 million for “volunteers” at the Corp. for National and Community Service
WTF is this?????????? Is this the new ACORN???????
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If I recall correctly Acorn fits under that umbrella
Zee 02.09.09 at 5:50 pm
#30 Dances
“huh?”
Haha…is this your first glance at a mind informed by Jay Severin?
Luckyseven 02.09.09 at 5:50 pm
Head teacher forced to resign after being branded racist for trying to axe separate assemblies for Muslims
By Daily Mail Reporter
Last updated at 7:14 PM on 09th February 2009
Comments (47) Add to My Stories ‘Forced out’: Head teacher Julia Robinson has resigned after her plans to scrap single faith assemblies
A primary school head teacher has resigned after Muslim parents protested over plans to scrap separate faith assemblies for their children.
Soon after taking over at the school Julia Robinson told staff she wanted to hold assemblies for all pupils, which would encompass all faiths.
The practice is common in most schools and after taking advice from the local authority, Ms Robinson set up a working party to look at alternatives.
But their work was stopped after a number of parents at Meersbrook Bank Primary Community in Sheffield complained about the plans.
Mrs Robinson was accused of being racist and following the complaints she was away from her post for most of last year.
She was due to make a phased return to her duties this term. But again there were protests from some parents when they heard she would be coming back.
Mrs Robinson resigned from her job and the school’s chair of governors Sarah Browton also quit in support.
A member of staff who asked not to be named said: ‘The head teacher inherited the separate assemblies when she started the job and she took careful advice from the authority on what to do about them.
‘But when she tried to stop them, feeling they did nothing to promote inclusiveness, she was accused of being a racist.
‘She wanted to hold assemblies for all the pupils, which would include all faiths. That is what happens in most schools but some parents wanted things to stay as they were.
More…Foster mother struck off for letting Muslim girl convert to Christianity
‘Mrs Robinson was under a lot of pressure and wasn’t at school for some time. The plan was for her to come back but again some of the parents put a stop to that.
‘Many of us here just feel this is all very wrong. Everyone was told that we had to heal and we had to move on.
‘There’s now an interim head in place and that situation could drag on for some time to come.
Upset: Staff at Meersbrook Bank Primary School, in Sheffield, are angry that Mrs Robinson has had to resign from her job
‘The feeling is that Julia was doing the right thing and went through all the right routes as to what she was trying to do.
‘The aim was for inclusion there’s no other school we know that has separate assemblies like these.
‘The buzzword from the authority at the moment is all about community cohesion but there is little cohesion at this school. The staff are very upset at what has happened.’
One Muslim woman with a younger sister at the school said the Muslim families did not object when Mrs Robinson stopped their weekly assembly and replaced it with a non-secular gathering.
The dispute started when hymns were introduced.
Fiyza Awan, 19, said:’We didn’t put any pressure on her to go, we want continuity at the school because that can only be good for the pupils, it was her decision to leave.
‘Before Mrs Robinson took over we had a separate assembly on Tuesdays because that was 20 minutes of hymn singing and that was not appropriate for Muslims.
‘There are about 35 Muslim children at the school and they went into a room and discussed things to do with Islam. The assemblies on the other days are much shorter and when a hymn was sung the Muslim children went outside for a few minutes.
‘When Mrs Robinson took over she said she wanted one assembly for all the students.
‘We didn’t have a problem with that but we wanted a non-secular assembly where no hymns, Christian or Muslim were sung and topics involving all the children could be discussed.
‘But after a while hymns were introduced again and we objected to that. We told Mrs Robinson we wanted our children withdrawn from assembly and for our children to have a separate assembly again.
‘We contacted the school governors and the education authority because we felt we were being marginalised and again said we wanted the old style of assemblies brought back.’
A Sheffield Council spokeswoman said: ‘We can confirm that the head teacher of Meersbrook Bank Primary School has tendered her resignation for her post which has been accepted.
‘Parents have been made aware of the matter and temporary arrangements are in place until a new head teacher is appointed.’
Acting chair of governors Rob Stephens added: ‘We would like to thank her for her work at the school, and wish her well for the future.
‘Mrs Pamela Smith has been appointed as the lead teacher.’
After taking over at Meersbrook Mrs Robinson outlined her plans for the future for the 115 year old school on its website.
On it she said : ‘We have launched the new school year by reviewing and rewriting our school vision and aims. We pride ourselves on the diversity of our community and our family feel.’
Carols Haka 02.09.09 at 5:54 pm
Glenn Beck asked “Who is going to be the first to pick up pitchforks” and head to Washington?
Emanuel and the Census. Add Acorn at $4.1B. Obama and his minions for sure take over everything. Michelle will be pres in 2012. (Over my dead body!)
CAROL HAKA
Zee 02.09.09 at 5:57 pm
Luckyseven, a link and excerpts would be sufficient for those interested in following the British story.
I definitely prefer the French school policy, which forbids Islamic girls to drape themselves. Too bad Great Britain doesn’t also tell the separatists that they are free to separate themselves entirely if they don’t care for the public way.
KerryLINY 02.09.09 at 5:59 pm
Stimulus bill passes senate:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29106540
This should mark the begining of the end for democratic majority. I strongly believe this is a bad bill and all those who supported it will/should pay for it. 1993 repeated again would seem and 8 years of more floundering and suffering to follow potentially.
BillieJo 02.09.09 at 6:07 pm
TrishfromCanada
BillieJo 02.09.09 at 5:47 pm
* $160 million for “volunteers” at the Corp. for National and Community Service
WTF is this?????????? Is this the new ACORN???????
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If I recall correctly Acorn fits under that umbrella
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I think this is the scam begins on page 195 of the PorkPie:
Subtitle D—Related Agencies
18 CORPORATION FOR NATIONAL AND COMMUNITY SERVICE
19 OPERATING EXPENSES
20 For an additional amount for ‘‘Operating Expenses’’
21 to carry out the Domestic Volunteer Service Act of 1973
22 and the National and Community Service Act of 1990
23 (‘‘1990 Act’’), $160,000,000, which shall be used to ex24
pand existing AmeriCorps grants
bla, bla, bla……
ACORN called by any other name is still ACORN!
HP Boston 02.09.09 at 6:08 pm
TexasTigress 02.09.09 at 5:11 pm
‘he’s beginning to look like that Ronco sales pitch guy… it slices, it dices… it does your laundry…”
O’shamwow – everytime you see him you’ll say Oh whatta sham
O’billymays – Obillymays here to tell you about my brand new stimulus package – but wait – there’s more ..
———–Oh ROTFLMAO
O’SHAMWOW!!!
BillieJo 02.09.09 at 6:09 pm
KerryLINY 02.09.09 at 5:59 pm
Stimulus bill passes senate:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29106540
This should mark the begining of the end for democratic majority. I strongly believe this is a bad bill and all those who supported it will/should pay for it. 1993 repeated again would seem and 8 years of more floundering and suffering to follow potentially.
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This isn’t a done deal, the House would have to pass it as is, or it get’s tinkered and goes back to the Senate. Like a game of pong.
HP Boston 02.09.09 at 6:10 pm
And the UK has some of the best doctors involved in research.
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And some with BOMBS!!
TrishfromCanada 02.09.09 at 6:17 pm
HP Boston 02.09.09 at 6:10 pm
And the UK has some of the best doctors involved in research.
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And some with BOMBS!!
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yeah, I should have kept it simple and said in areas of leukemia, oncology and neurology to name a few
KerryLINY 02.09.09 at 6:19 pm
Gnight all. Not great that this bill passed. BillieJo, I wish there was enough difference between the bills that a chance that the reconciliation wont work is high – or that at least one of the bills was acceptable. Both versions are bad with the senate version even worse in my humble opinion.
DancesWithPumas 02.09.09 at 6:22 pm
Zee 02.09.09 at 5:50 pm
#30 Dances “huh?”
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Haha…is this your first glance at a mind informed by Jay Severin?
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I guess so. One more wingnut to add to my ignore slate.
If it weren’t for the liberals who are still ‘left’ on this blog…
I’d be gone.
bqueen 02.09.09 at 6:23 pm
Senator Collins sounds like she’s on something…does she have some kind of handicap or something??
BillieJo 02.09.09 at 6:24 pm
KerryLINY 02.09.09 at 6:19 pm
Gnight all. Not great that this bill passed. BillieJo, I wish there was enough difference between the bills that a chance that the reconciliation wont work is high – or that at least one of the bills was acceptable. Both versions are bad with the senate version even worse in my humble opinion.
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I agree Kerry, it will pass at some point and it will be loaded with pork.
Good night.
Nijma 02.09.09 at 6:25 pm
About the one Palestinian and three Jordanian wives: as far as I could tell there were four houses, one for each wife. One wife had left and gone back to live with her family. The guy was living with the Palestinian wife and they worked together too. As far as I could tell the other two wives were more like ex-wives with the child support being taken care of on the spot. When I was there a delegation from one of the wives’ families came to visit. They wanted money or something like that–I couldn’t understand it all but they wanted something about the children. The atmosphere was cordial but tense and after they left everyone relaxed. They usually marry their first cousins, but I don’t know for sure that this was the case here.
pigpaws 02.09.09 at 6:25 pm
Please find it in the HR 1 bill and post it. I don’t believe something just because some radio hack says it.
At the link I posted before, the author listed the pages the healthcare stuff is on and the pdf link of the bill.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aLzfDxfbwhzs
BillieJo 02.09.09 at 6:25 pm
bqueen 02.09.09 at 6:23 pm
Senator Collins sounds like she’s on something…does she have some kind of handicap or something??
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Is she the dark haired Rep woman that is voting for the bill? If so, I thought the same thing…something is wrong with her speech.
bqueen 02.09.09 at 6:29 pm
BillieJo – yes that’s her. She has a very forced way of speaking.
HP Boston 02.09.09 at 6:30 pm
Senator Collins sounds like she’s on something…does she have some kind of handicap or something??
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Is she the dark haired Rep woman that is voting for the bill? If so, I thought the same thing…something is wrong with her speech.
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bqueen 02.09.09 at 6:32 pm
Night KerryLINY. Don’t have bad dreams of hogs jumpin’ over a fence! (one by one by one by one…)
scarlet 02.09.09 at 6:40 pm
Many in the US want government controlled health care and in Canada many are fighting for the right to pay for their own health care.
FEBRUARY 9, 2009
‘Too Old’ for Hip Surgery (He was 57)
As we inch towards nationalized health care, important lessons from north of the border.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123413701032661445.html
These constitutional challenges, along with one launched in British Columbia last month, share a common goal: to win Canadians the freedom to spend their own money to protect themselves from the inadequacies of the government health-insurance system.
Canada remains the only industrialized country that outlaws privately financed purchases of core medical services. Prime Minister Stephen Harper and other politicians remain reluctant to openly propose sweeping changes even though costs for the national and provincial governments are exploding and some cancer patients are waiting months for diagnostic tests and treatment.
But a Supreme Court ruling last June — it found that a Quebec provincial ban on private health insurance was unconstitutional when patients were suffering and even dying on waiting lists — appears to have become a turning point for the entire country.
TexasTigress 02.09.09 at 6:54 pm
bqueen 02.09.09 at 6:32 pm
Night KerryLINY. Don’t have bad dreams of hogs jumpin’ over a fence!
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That just mad me realize that Obama’s cabinet resembles the ‘Sweat Hogs” from Welcom Back kotter !
The new Sweat Hogs starring Obama “boom boom’ Washington
pigpaws 02.09.09 at 6:55 pm
BillieJo 02.09.09 at 4:19 pm
Sorry pigpaws but Health Care is something I do believe in, and especially for those that do not have it. I am for Hillary’s Universal Health care plan but O’ego doesn’t have coverage for that in the plan. Some is for kids without healthcare and I think the rest is for online records that I do not trust keeping this private. It’s one thing to be against Universal Health Care if you have healthcare, can afford it and/or have no heath issues. My 25 year old son has no health care, has a chronic disease and we can’t afford health care that covers a pre-existing illness.
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He not only has the online record thing that you are correct in your concern about privacy, but he is setting up a whole new bureaucracy that will dictate to hospitals and doctors treatment and cost.
The SCHIP for kids up to 30 is an entirely different bill just passed that will fit in nicely with the new overlord committee of rationing. The SCHIP is to be funded by increased smoking taxes, but in the pork bill, there is 70 million to end smoking. Explain that one.
The problem with universal healthcare is that noone is discussing the main problem of cost. It should not cost thousands of dollars for a run to the ER for stitches or a broken bone or a bag of fluids due to bad flu or maintenance drugs for chronic conditions. You shouldn’t have to mortgage the house to pay for a routine operation. Most people should be able to make reasonable payments over a short period of time for such services. Even the poorest should make some sort of payment.
Noone will discuss the drain on hospitals caused by illegals or the lawyers, that will either shut a hospital down or we wind up paying via higher cost. And why not? Because of politics. Lawyer groups give overwhelming to democrats and their causes. Illegals are a voting block. Add to that human nature. If you do not have skin in the game, you tend to take advantage.
We have a hard enough time taking care of our own family and spend a terrifying amount on healthcare. Why should we have to spend that much money on services barely rendered? Why should we have to pay for everyone else we are not related to? Why isn’t anyone discussing the ‘disease’ instead of buying votes hyping up the symptoms.
By not addressing the main cause, the cost is only going climb and the government will not cut the cost at the administrative level, they will cut it with you. You, not the lawyers or the illegal-new-voters or businesses charging the government astronomical fees or administrative political hacks, are the easiest to cut.
Universal healthcare does not work as every horror story out of the UK and Canada show. Their systems, like all entitlement programs, are collapsing.
TrishfromCanada 02.09.09 at 7:02 pm
scarlet and pigpaws
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check out alberta’s two tier health care under ralph klein
pigpaws 02.09.09 at 7:12 pm
Federal spending is closing on 40% of GDP. This is mostly due to the entitlement programs of Social Security, Medicare/Medicaid. Add that to state and local spending would bring it to over 50%.
Medicare is close to collapsing. I heard doctors on the local radio station talking about how nearing 60% of doctors will not take Medicare patients because the government does not even reimburse them for cost! My sister-n-law works at a VA hospital. There is good reason why most veterans will not visit one. She says, ‘Pigpaws, God help us if we get universal healthcare. The way the government runs the VA is horrible’.
One third of all claims to Medicare are fraudulent (can’t link it now but it pops up fast when you google it – gov. link)
SS is nothing but IOUs.
So, if those programs are bankrupt, politicized, and on the verge of collapse, how on earth will the same clowns oversee MY healthcare?
We can’t afford it pocketbook-wise or health-wise.
bqueen 02.09.09 at 7:26 pm
Did others catch this on Glenn Beck? “Sully” – the hero pilot – called the library to apologize that he couldn’t return their book. It was left behind on the plane!
Whadda man, whadda man, whadda mighty good man!
Ex-DemInVA 02.09.09 at 7:27 pm
pigpaws 02.09.09 at 7:12 pm
My sister-n-law works at a VA hospital. There is good reason why most veterans will not visit one. She says, ‘Pigpaws, God help us if we get universal healthcare. The way the government runs the VA is horrible’.
Your sister-in-law is correct. We witnessed this firthand with the passing of my father last summer. The way the VA hospital took care of him, a WWII Veteran and PH recipient, and others was beyond belief. We then had a lot of bs dealings with the VA afterward – you have to fight the VA if you believe you are right on an issue, but it is going to wear you thin. Trust me. The whole thing is appalling.
scarlet 02.09.09 at 7:28 pm
Endgame? What Endgame?
Afghanistan: A war without end
by Justin Raimondo
So, you thought it was all going to be different, did you, that we were in for a change – a Big Change? Well, the bad news, as Newsweek reports, is that the more things change ….
“The Pentagon is prepared to announce the deployment of 17,000 additional soldiers and Marines to Afghanistan as early as this week even as President Barack Obama is searching for his own strategy for the war. According to military officials during last week’s meeting with Defense Secretary Gates and the Joint Chiefs of Staff in the Pentagon’s ‘tank,’ the president specifically asked, ‘What is the end game?’ in the U.S. military’s strategy for Afghanistan. When asked what the answer was, one military official told NBC News, ‘Frankly, we don’t have one.’ But they’re working on it.”
He’s searching for strategy – at this late date? Isn’t this the same Barack Hussein Obama who told us Bush was neglecting the Afghan front, and that we had to redirect our efforts away from Iraq in order to invest more troops and treasure in Afghanistan, doing whatever it is we’re supposed to be doing there? Surely he had some kind of plan in mind.
And, by the way, what are we doing there? Frankly, nobody knows – least of all, apparently, President Obama. His generals are equally clueless. Maybe they ought to ask the outgoing President – Dick Cheney, I mean. After all, this war was launched by the Cheney-Bush administration, and the neocons who talked us into this clearly had something very specific in mind – now what was it?
Oh yeah, now I remember: they were going to “transform” the entire region by first smashing Osama bin Laden in Afghanistan, and then crushing Saddam Hussein: this was supposed to spark a general uprising extending from North Africa to the wilds of Waziristan, and usher in a new era of capital-’D’ Democracy.
Well, yes, the invasion did indeed provoke a regional uprising: the only problem is that it wasn’t and isn’t directed at local despots, but against us.
So there you have it: the new interventionist consensus, the coalition of special interests and ideological cliques that will foist another futile war of “liberation” on us. These are the supporters of what is now Obama’s war, a conflict that promises to be much broader – and more destabilizing – than anything dreamed of by the Bush administration.
What’s the endgame, Mr. President? You tell us.
More at:
http://antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=14201
pigpaws 02.09.09 at 7:37 pm
If Obama and his administration will dictate who they want stimulus money to go to via infrastructure, don’t think they won’t do the same via health.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opxuUj6vFa4&feature=channel_page
Don’t forget how Herr Obama grabbed the supposed to be non-biased Census and made it his jurisdiction. You do remember that when he was a community organizer, he taught ACORN his ‘organizing’ skills. As Saul Alinsky’s son wrote in an op-ed of the NYTimes, ‘My dad would be proud.’
scarlet 02.09.09 at 7:40 pm
President Obama will hold his first formal press conference as president in prime-time tonight, beginning at 8:00 PM Eastern. The press conference will be carried live on network television and on the major news channels.
DancesWithPumas 02.09.09 at 7:45 pm
I’m wondering if I should break my television fast and watch O’ugh, or read the live blogging here…?
What to do…what to do…
Illinois Indy Woman 02.09.09 at 7:46 pm
Another problem with Universal Health Care is the shortage of Doctors especially Primary Care Physicians. It took my daughter 4 years of college, 4 years of med school and 3 years of residency to become an ER Doc. My son-in-law, an Ortho surgery resident, is in his 5th year of residency. Next year will be a fellowship training year. That’s 10 years of training after college. Doctors are very dedicated individuals who work long and hard to practice medicine. I was wondering why Howard Dean and the Obama administration had a falling out. Could it have been over him being a Doctor and not supporting Universal Health Care?
goofsmom 02.09.09 at 7:50 pm
Dances,
LOLOL – I can’t watch him… his speech pattern drives me crazy!
pigpaws 02.09.09 at 7:55 pm
Why the rush to 800 billion in spending. Is that the amount that it will take to devalue the dollar to the point that we will collapse if we do not convert to the Amero or Euro?
*Just like Soros, Obama did say he thought the Constitution is fundamentally flawed because it did not allow enough redistribution through government.*
George Soros – Open Borders, Open Society
http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2006/7/25/104735.shtml
..”The Open Society Institute is the cornerstone for the Soros Foundations Network, a group of Soros-funded organizations in more than 50 countries, which promote open-society concepts by influencing governmental policies.
The various branches and paid instrumentalities of the network include Democracy Alliance, MoveOn.org, America Coming Together, America Votes, The Center for American Progress, and other leftist front organizations, which advocate open borders for the United States — not for other nations but for the United States. These Soros-funded groups finance his camp followers, among them the Democratic Party, the National Organization of Women, abortion advocacy groups, various environmental groups, and last but not least, the increasingly powerful immigration special interest groups. “…
…”In his 1997 Atlantic Monthly article, he wrote, “The Declaration of Independence may be taken as a pretty good approximation of the principles of an open society, but instead of claiming those principles are self-evident, we ought to say that they are consistent with our fallibility.”
He adds that the open society concept is highly sophisticated, and much more difficult to work with than the more primitive beliefs, such as, “my country (or my company or my family), right or wrong.” ….
..”Open-society advocates would reinterpret the U.S. Constitution to better suit the “age of fallibility,” which no longer recognizes unalienable rights or divine providence. The Soros open-society concept requires that the United States be removed as a superpower and that the American people be subjected to the will and wants of all the world’s people.
To support his belief that the human mind cannot fathom ultimate truth and reality, Soros apparently advocates the deconstruction of nations by educating the masses in open-society jargon.
His open society comes off as a bastardization of socialism and libertarianism. This mixed brew includes more taxes (but not on the Soros fortune), increased government spending, open borders, immigration entitlements for legal and illegal aliens, devaluing citizenship but promoting feminism, free abortions, affirmative action, and sex and gender rights. Incongruously he would lessen government intrusion while eliminating “excessive individualism.” Essential to an open society is destruction of the nation-state authority, family structure, and religious beliefs, thus rendering national culture, heritage, and ethos meaningless. “…
pigpaws 02.09.09 at 8:04 pm
‘We bought it, we own it’, George Soros and moveon.org on the democrat party.
http://ibdeditorials.com/series4.aspx
bqueen 02.09.09 at 8:04 pm
Dances go here: http://www.cartoonbrew.com/
FLBarbara 02.09.09 at 8:06 pm
If you do not want to hear him speak use close caption and read it.
You can also put a nice photo over his so you don not have to see his face.
Works good read the words and look at a nice photo of the beach.
prplvette85 02.09.09 at 8:07 pm
He just said there is not a single earmark…..WTF?
Headclunker 02.09.09 at 8:08 pm
Vote on BO and the economy
http://news.aol.com/main/obama-presidency/article/obama-tough-week/333604
DancesWithPumas 02.09.09 at 8:09 pm
Okay, I have him on without sound or closed captioning… he can;t look straight ahead…no teleprompter straight ahead
pigpaws 02.09.09 at 8:16 pm
With this bill more people will be working for the democrat party than the US military. It’s intent is to freeze out republicans and have a one party domination via a patronage system.
Duh, that is pretty apparent with some of the stuff I have seen you ladies dig up. Just thinking of the healthcare provision. Who do you think they are going to appoint to run those new bureaucracies?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGafMHsV4Ug&feature=email
Not really a liker of Savage but he skewers both sides with aplomb the few times I have heard him and he is spot on with this and the same of what you have found too.
FLBarbara 02.09.09 at 8:16 pm
Dances
No sound and no close captioning
Are you reading his lips?
Are you just looking at him? Be careful your eyes will burn
Keep your Kleenex close you will need it.
He is so arrogant!!
TexasTigress 02.09.09 at 8:17 pm
Didn’t he have grey hair diruing the election ?
TexasTigress 02.09.09 at 8:18 pm
during
prplvette85 02.09.09 at 8:18 pm
uh oh…he has to think off the cuff now…uh..uh….uh…..
when asked about Iran…”my National Security team is reviewing”. He has no fucking clue what he is even saying….
skate….skate…skate…..
girlsrule 02.09.09 at 8:18 pm
Wasn’t sure if you all have seen this article called “Ruin Your Health With the Obama Stimulus Plan”: Betsy McCaughey. it is very telling, especially because a lot of this was snuck into the stimulus package:
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601039&refer=columnist_mccaughey&sid=aLzfDxfbwhzs
prplvette85 02.09.09 at 8:21 pm
I think these questions are staged. He called out Chip Reed, and was looking in the opposite direction lol….
FLBarbara 02.09.09 at 8:23 pm
One sentance 6 auhs I can not concentrate I keep hearing avoice saying
This is the President and then there is all this inner brain screaming NOOOOOOOO
murphy 02.09.09 at 8:25 pm
Obad posted, take it upstairs!
prplvette85 02.09.09 at 8:26 pm
I want to see how long it takes for these 4 million jobs that are going to be created immediately. Is everyone trained to build a bridge or in building green energy buildings? Do I have to buy steel toe boots? lol
bmw60 02.09.09 at 8:56 pm
There will not be the jobs… he is a liar and he is a fraud!
Illinois Gal 02.09.09 at 9:09 pm
A statement by Rep. Ron Paul on the Economic Stimulus and the Federal Reserve.
Cures for Our Economic Disease
I have recently had several opportunities on various news programs to discuss the economy and what is wrong with the so-called economic stimulus package. I have said over and over what we shouldn’t be doing, and now I’d like to explain what we should be doing.
But to improve the situation, you must first have a solid grasp of how we got here. Government policies and central planning created the housing bubble, now going bust. About a decade ago the government made expanded homeownership and affordable housing a public goal. Through Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac and the secondary mortgage market the government incentivized creative, low down-payment, more widely available mortgage products, and discouraged the market-proven lending standards of the past. The Federal Reserve kept interest rates artificially low, which added more fuel to this fire. Many related sectors temporarily flourished because of this, and many people got into homes they otherwise could not have afforded. The increased demand for housing sent prices soaring until in many markets housing became even more unaffordable, necessitating even more creative mortgages, and impossibly leveraging homeowners. Many risky investment vehicles such as mortgage-backed securities, derivatives, credit default swaps grew out of this unsustainable situation. As the foreclosures began, the house of cards started to tumble. Too many people have confused the symptoms and the pain of the bust with the problematic policies that caused the bubble, which is really what needs to be treated.
First of all, just as the best cure for a hangover is not to drink so much, the best cure for a recession is a recession. It is time to sober up and return to free market sanity, risk and reward, supply and demand, without political intervention. Politicians are good at catering to the needs of special interests, but very bad at determining what needs to take place in the market. Government should stick to punishing fraud and enforcing contracts. When they use the tax code, bureaucratic departments and their manipulative rules and regulations to dictate social and economic behavior, we end up with distortions and malinvestments. Bailing out banks, continuing failed Fed policies and strapping the taxpayer with toxic debt will worsen the pain, and punish the innocent.
If Congress really wanted to do something helpful, it would cut taxes. Ideally, we would repeal the income tax altogether and get the IRS off the economy’s back, which would be a huge boon. We should also cut spending. Cut every unconstitutional department and program, every wasteful governmental encroachment on the people’s liberty and money, starting with our massive overseas empire. The cost of our empire is bringing us to our knees, just as the Soviets’ empire did to them. Congress should also abolish the Federal Reserve and take back its responsibilities to ensure sound money, safe from the manipulations of powerful banking interests.
These things would constitute real change, real economic stimulus. The plans being bandied about Washington are just more of the same. As long as no one seriously considers the cure, we are unfortunately destined to prolong the disease.
Posted by Ron Paul (02-02-2009, 02:27 PM) filed under Monetary Policy
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=freedom+to+fascism&hl=en&emb=0&aq=f#q=freedom+to+fascism&hl=en&emb=0&aq=f&start=30
Please view this video clip from “Freedom to Fascism” with Rep. Ron Paul, and many other government workers interviewed about the Federal Reserve Bank origins and it’s impact on the U.S. economy and our Constitutional freedoms being taken away by a police state.
scarlet 02.09.09 at 9:21 pm
prplvette85 02.09.09 at 9:01 pm
Mountainsong said
Earlier, someone referred to ACORN as the new iteration of the Black Panthers. I can’t prove it, but my suspicion is that ACORN is really a front name for Obama’s “Civilian Army”
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I totally agree with you on that point! And I agree on the census issue as well. We do need to protest this.
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I was watching Fox this morning and they said that they are the only ones reporting on the census issue. The host himself was surprised about that.
Zee 02.09.09 at 9:53 pm
#106
Oh, hell no. Spare us, “Illinois Gal.” I would take an Obot any day of the week over a Ron Paul rEVOLution cultist.
There are many places to go spread the EVOL that is Ron Paul and the “I spit my tabacky juice on the dirt path so I don’t need no paved roads!” Libertarians. Many caves, where they stockpile ammo, homeschool their chirrun in the art of shooting gummint agents and talk about the IMPENDING DOOM of the paper dollar.
Zee 02.09.09 at 9:56 pm
For those of you who think I’m being “mean” (well, it is mean to tease those whose limited thinking process admires the likes of Ron Paul, but hey) — Ron Paul has been screeching about the IMMEDIATE IMPENDING DOOM of the paper dollar since the 70′s.
Forty years.
The amero people and the federal reserve people are conspiracy nuts. Save yourselves some time and skip the Ron Paul nuttery.
Illinois Gal 02.10.09 at 12:09 am
Okay, I have never been a cultist for Ron Paul. I have been a supporter of President Clinton and SOS Hillary Clinton. But this week I read Ron Paul’s statement on the Federal Reserve and viewed the video “Freedom to Facism”. I am just trying to be open minded. The Federal Reserve Bank is not a government agency, we have all been fooled since it was created by private bankers bribing President Woodrow Wilson and Congress in 1913. Look it up, it is documented in Senate records of their votes on December 23, 1913.
Since I have never followed Rep. Ron Paul, I am not up on his years of conspiracy theories or his politics; but the Federal Reserve issue is pertinent to our economic crisis today and we need to follow all leads to how bankers have controlled the U.S. economy. I was skeptical also of the idea that the “Federal Reserve Bank” was not a government agency, but it is not apparently; and that is the way the bankers like the public to be unaware of the truth. If the public taxpayer does not know who really controls their money, then the Federal Reserve does not have to answer to the taxpayers. The Federal Reserve never had to give minutes of their meetings until Senators in the 1970′s questioned the Federal Reserve. Now the Federal Reserve gives a report only five years after their meetings, this way it is too late for Congress to do anything about what was decided in the “private meetings” of the Federal Reserve.
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