Another Edition of

http://blog.unheardamericanvoices.com/2009/02/07/sen-stabenow-prostituting-for-the-fairness-doctrine.aspx

interesting woman… we love women but this one … sheesh

Maybe link #1 was meant for the woman lynching forum of the SOS forum?

Does anyone know if a man has ever swum the Atlantic? I hadn’t heard if they have. Swimming the Atlantic is just awesome.

That Jennifer Figg is awesome

God I get exhaused trying to swim across the pool.
They hace to throw me a life preserver half way.

WOW Figge is one strong woman, geez 30 ft waves, unfreaking belivable!

The subject of that crap article was about the Fairness Doctrine… (Thank you ronnie raygun-god moron)… yet the headline uses the word “prostitutes” and one third of teh article is about Senator Stabenow’s husband’s affair (and omg…why didnt he take a plane somewhere to engage the services of a sex worker??? ::: cue wringing of hands… if they arent engaged in something else::::)

murphy 02.08.09 at 12:39 pm

Pumas are the best.

the greatest most awesomest best best best in the world.

No matter what happens, how bad and scary things get, how pissed off and frustrated we are by what we see happening every day, we ALWAYS have each other and this place for support, knowledge, and sanity.

what a gift we all are to each other. I am truly humbled by what we’ve created together.

{{{{{Pumas}}}}}
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Darn, I was expecting a big photo of you Murphy on the top of this “Women who smoke post”. Our Birthday PUMA that has made a blog for all of us to find sanity, vent and educate each other. Happy Birthday Murph, to you and your sweet Mama. You are a woman that smokes and my hat is tipped to you for your wonderful posts that continue to inspire me.
Hugs to all PUMAs.

Nice BillieJo…thanks and I will be accepting the awards for Murphy and Dances…..Mama and all who SMOKE!!!

FLBarbara 02.08.09 at 4:50 pm
Feeling inspired going for a swim
Dances Maybe I will make that CA puma get together in March after all !!
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Swim down to the Panama Canal. Take a right, and then another right, and on to CA. You should make it in plenty of time for the get-together. Don’t forget to take your floatie.

Who can help me set up a blog?

I want to write about Obama from my perspective as a jewish women and former democrat/current puma.

Anybody can help me?

TrishfromCanada 02.08.09 at 4:53 pm
Well, I guess whoever wrote that article was making the political personal, their point about the fairness dotrine was lost amongst the mudslinging.
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That and, anyone to the left of Attila the Hun is characterized as a “radical”.

Dances

I have my floaties with me at all times never leave home without them LOL

Dances, do you know anyone who can?

I don’t need something fancy, I just don’t know whats the best. Blogger or wordpress? And I was wondering if there are any other jewish pumas who might want to be writers also.

SilverCat

I can’t help you either but I did see in some comment somewhere the site http://www.hostmonster.com recommended. you can play with a sample control panel before signing up so you know what you’re getting into. Maybe you can find a teen in your area to help??

Hello everyone ,
I havent posted in a while as i have been sick , but i wanted to come back here and tell MURPHY and MAMAPUMA HAPPY BIRTHDAY TOO YOU!!!!!!

#28

awwwwww, see how awesome you are Dances!!!
KUDOS TO YOU!!!!

#31

see how awesome you are?
Always ready with a pat on the back… and a tissue.

Sounds great Dances! I’ll get started tonight and keep you guys updated!

SilverCat cool!

invalid
ding!! ding!! ding!! We have a winnah!!
Yep. CasperCat…and she cracks me up everytime she posts a link!! lol

there you go….I have a knack for remembering things….not important thing..just things….lol I only get half credit though..forgot the cat part….

invalid… nah. Full credit. There’s only one Casper.
Oh, plus your winning prize. You are now the proud owner of a Hoover Steam-Dry Iron!! Congratulations, and thank you for playing!

Shoot, I can’t get the link to work, but the Congressional Budget Office said that the recession should end later this year, WITHOUT any ’stimulus’.

But that does not matter to Obama because I truly believe he wants everything to tank in order to get people to go along with his true change. He cares not one wit about the economy or ‘the people’, except those who got him elected and those propping him up, like Soros.

This whole business smacks of the Cloward-Piven strategy -

“First proposed in 1966 and named after Columbia University sociologists Richard Andrew Cloward and Frances Fox Piven, the “Cloward-Piven Strategy” seeks to hasten the fall of capitalism by overloading the government bureaucracy with a flood of impossible demands, thus pushing society into crisis and economic collapse.

Inspired by the August 1965 riots in the black district of Watts in Los Angeles (which erupted after police had used batons to subdue a black man suspected of drunk driving), Cloward and Piven published an article titled “The Weight of the Poor: A Strategy to End Poverty” in the May 2, 1966 issue of The Nation. Following its publication, The Nation sold an unprecedented 30,000 reprints. Activists were abuzz over the so-called “crisis strategy” or “Cloward-Piven Strategy,” as it came to be called. Many were eager to put it into effect.

In their 1966 article, Cloward and Piven charged that the ruling classes used welfare to weaken the poor; that by providing a social safety net, the rich doused the fires of rebellion. Poor people can advance only when “the rest of society is afraid of them,” Cloward told The New York Times on September 27, 1970. Rather than placating the poor with government hand-outs, wrote Cloward and Piven, activists should work to sabotage and destroy the welfare system; the collapse of the welfare state would ignite a political and financial crisis that would rock the nation; poor people would rise in revolt; only then would “the rest of society” accept their demands.

The key to sparking this rebellion would be to expose the inadequacy of the welfare state. Cloward-Piven’s early promoters cited radical organizer Saul Alinsky as their inspiration. “Make the enemy live up to their (sic) own book of rules,” Alinsky wrote in his 1972 book Rules for Radicals. When pressed to honor every word of every law and statute, every Judaeo-Christian moral tenet, and every implicit promise of the liberal social contract, human agencies inevitably fall short. The system’s failure to “live up” to its rule book can then be used to discredit it altogether, and to replace the capitalist “rule book” with a socialist one.

The authors noted that the number of Americans subsisting on welfare — about 8 million, at the time — probably represented less than half the number who were technically eligible for full benefits. They proposed a “massive drive to recruit the poor onto the welfare rolls.” Cloward and Piven calculated that persuading even a fraction of potential welfare recipients to demand their entitlements would bankrupt the system. The result, they predicted, would be “a profound financial and political crisis” that would unleash “powerful forces … for major economic reform at the national level.”

Their article called for “cadres of aggressive organizers” to use “demonstrations to create a climate of militancy.” Intimidated by threats of black violence, politicians would appeal to the federal government for help. Carefully orchestrated media campaigns, carried out by friendly, leftwing journalists, would float the idea of “a federal program of income redistribution,” in the form of a guaranteed living income for all — working and non-working people alike. Local officials would clutch at this idea like drowning men to a lifeline. They would apply pressure on Washington to implement it. With every major city erupting into chaos, Washington would have to act. This was an example of what are commonly called Trojan Horse movements — mass movements whose outward purpose seems to be providing material help to the downtrodden, but whose real objective is to draft poor people into service as revolutionary foot soldiers; to mobilize poor people en masse to overwhelm government agencies with a flood of demands beyond the capacity of those agencies to meet. The flood of demands was calculated to break the budget, jam the bureaucratic gears into gridlock, and bring the system crashing down. Fear, turmoil, violence and economic collapse would accompany such a breakdown — providing perfect conditions for fostering radical change. That was the theory.

Cloward and Piven recruited a militant black organizer named George Wiley to lead their new movement. In the summer of 1967, Wiley founded the National Welfare Rights Organization (NWRO). His tactics closely followed the recommendations set out in Cloward and Piven’s article. His followers invaded welfare offices across the United States — often violently — bullying social workers and loudly demanding every penny to which the law “entitled” them. By 1969, NWRO claimed a dues-paying membership of 22,500 families, with 523 chapters across the nation.

Regarding Wiley’s tactics, The New York Times commented on September 27, 1970, “There have been sit-ins in legislative chambers, including a United States Senate committee hearing, mass demonstrations of several thousand welfare recipients, school boycotts, picket lines, mounted police, tear gas, arrests – and, on occasion, rock-throwing, smashed glass doors, overturned desks, scattered papers and ripped-out phones.”These methods proved effective. “The flooding succeeded beyond Wiley’s wildest dreams,” writes Sol Stern in the City Journal. “From 1965 to 1974, the number of single-parent households on welfare soared from 4.3 million to 10.8 million, despite mostly flush economic times. By the early 1970s, one person was on the welfare rolls in New York City for every two working in the city’s private economy.”As a direct result of its massive welfare spending, New York City was forced to declare bankruptcy in 1975. The entire state of New York nearly went down with it. The Cloward-Piven strategy had proved its effectiveness.

The Cloward-Piven strategy depended on surprise. Once society recovered from the initial shock, the backlash began. New York’s welfare crisis horrified America, giving rise to a reform movement which culminated in “the end of welfare as we know it” — the 1996 Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Reconciliation Act, which imposed time limits on federal welfare, along with strict eligibility and work requirements. Both Cloward and Piven attended the White House signing of the bill as guests of President Clinton.

Most Americans to this day have never heard of Cloward and Piven. But New York City Mayor Rudolph Giuliani attempted to expose them in the late 1990s. As his drive for welfare reform gained momentum, Giuliani accused the militant scholars by name, citing their 1966 manifesto as evidence that they had engaged in deliberate economic sabotage. “This wasn’t an accident,” Giuliani charged in a 1997 speech. “It wasn’t an atmospheric thing, it wasn’t supernatural. This is the result of policies and programs designed to have the maximum number of people get on welfare.”

Cloward and Piven never again revealed their intentions as candidly as they had in their 1966 article. Even so, their activism in subsequent years continued to rely on the tactic of overloading the system. When the public caught on to their welfare scheme, Cloward and Piven simply moved on, applying pressure to other sectors of the bureaucracy, wherever they detected weakness.

In 1982, partisans of the Cloward-Piven strategy founded a new “voting rights movement,” which purported to take up the unfinished work of the Voting Rights Act of 1965. Like ACORN, the organization that spear-headed this campaign, the new “voting rights” movement was led by veterans of George Wiley’s welfare rights crusade. Its flagship organizations were Project Vote and Human SERVE, both founded in 1982. Project Vote is an ACORN front group, launched by former NWRO organizer and ACORN co-founder Zach Polett. Human SERVE was founded by Richard A. Cloward and Frances Fox Piven, along with a former NWRO organizer named Hulbert James.

All three of these organizations — ACORN, Project Vote and Human SERVE — set to work lobbying energetically for the so-called Motor-Voter law, which Bill Clinton ultimately signed in 1993. The Motor-Voter bill is largely responsible for swamping the voter rolls with “dead wood” — invalid registrations signed in the name of deceased, ineligible or non-existent people — thus opening the door to the unprecedented levels of voter fraud and “voter disenfranchisement” claims that followed in subsequent elections.

The new “voting rights” coalition combines mass voter registration drives — typically featuring high levels of fraud — with systematic intimidation of election officials in the form of frivolous lawsuits, unfounded charges of “racism” and “disenfranchisement,” and “direct action” (street protests, violent or otherwise). Just as they swamped America’s welfare offices in the 1960s, Cloward-Piven devotees now seek to overwhelm the nation’s understaffed and poorly policed electoral system. Their tactics set the stage for the Florida recount crisis of 2000, and have introduced a level of fear, tension and foreboding to U.S. elections heretofore encountered mainly in Third World countries.

Both the Living Wage and Voting Rights movements depend heavily on financial support from George Soros’s Open Society Institute and his “Shadow Party,” through whose support the Cloward-Piven strategy continues to provide a blueprint for some of the Left’s most ambitious campaigns.

DancesWithPumas
You are now the proud owner of a Hoover Steam-Dry Iron!!
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yeah nice try, Knowing tonight is your laundry night…….

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_58PErfRkJKM/R4NAzPh3y2I/AAAAAAAAAjM/Ix6Vx8QaeSk/s400/ironyourownshirt.png

TLCPUMA 02.08.09 at 5:38 pm
Thankyou Dances !!!!!! I still read the post almost everyday! And im still a PUMA all the way!
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Great! Are you on the mend now? I hope.
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pigpaw… interesting article. Would you happen to have a link to the source?

Happy Birthday Murphy!

FYI,

Palestine just bombed Israel again, even though the religious men agreed to a TRUCE yesterday

Love this:

Gandhi’s list of evils to remember

Wealth without work,
Commerce without morality,
Science without humanity,
Pleasure without conscience,
Politics without principles,
Knowledge without character.

–Mahatma Gandhi,
Leader of the Indian Nationalist movement
(discovered at: http://501cweb.wordpress.com/)

PumaBear… excellent post!!
http://patriotdems.wordpress.com/

Good list to have around Dances, but can this be evil:

Wealth without work?? (my dream)

i have a personal experience that may indicate some easing of the credit crunch

tec1965:
Explain?

tec1965

It could be… I’m just happy that you were able to get the credit when you needed it most.

HOPE FOR AMERICA

http://www.thehopeforamerica.com/play.php?id=316

thanks goofs mom

can you guys beleive this crap about white males not getting any of the “jobs” that are supposed to be craeted by the swindle (umm)stimulus!! this is unbelevable!! racism against the white male or the black male or women or anyone is bullshit yet these scum are going to see to it that the bill is written this way
ok are you gonna drive over a bridge built by people with no experience what a effing joke

sorry created

Coldplay Reminder for music-lovin’ PUMA’s:

~ Everybody remember to watch the Grammies tonight, at least for album of the year, especially if you like Coldplay! ~ ;D

Just had a Strange..phone call..

A good friend of my sons called to apol. to me for all the long heated conversations over the election..that’s saying it nicely.
Why is this important..he is a very liberal Dem…was big Hill supporter, but flipped to O, as he could NEVER vote for a Rep.
The problem is he went to work for the GOA..last June, and he says a LOT of where we are right now is from the 2 yrs the Dem’s controlled Congress..All he would say is that the 5T+ plus def., added over 8 yrs, almost 2 1/2T, came from the last two yrs …I am going to try and doc..his job is confid..so left me hanging.

The scary part of the conv. was he said if this bill passes, we have NO real idea, where it will end. The whispers are it’s Not Good for the Country..and I could tell he was really concerned!

Left it at..I am sorry, I wouldn’t listen, and so are alot of other people..just left me with a real sick feeling, that their is more to all of this than we have any idea.

Going to cook dinner and try to digest what he said..he really caught me off guard..but yes, I believe things are changing and changing fast.

DWP #55,
Thanks for reading the long post.
501cweb’s Gandhi quotes awesome! I hand’t seen them.

Must say-all day- you make me LOL.

DWP #55

Tried to say something in last post but was told I was repeating myself!

Thanks for your comment and Gandhi quote.

ON NOW
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/NO-WE-WONT/2009/02/09/NO-WE-WONT

Interesting article I received in an E-mail just now… and Ben Stein is someone I do appreciate… seems he is very concerned…

Ben Stein: Half of Stimulus Goes to Unions
Sunday, February 1, 2009 1:01 PM

Columnist Ben Stein has taken a close look at President Barack Obama’s proposed $820 billion stimulus package, and made some eye-opening discoveries.

Writing for Spectator.com and NYPost.com, Stein calculates that:

The House of Representatives debated the bill for eight hours, or roughly $102 billion per hour.

Only 10 percent of the stimulus funds would be spent in 2009.

Almost half of the $820 billion would end up in the pockets of Democratic-controlled unions, such as the Service Employees International Union, and federal, state, and municipal employee unions.

At 680 pages long, neither Obama nor any member of the House had enough time to read the entire bill before the House voted.

The $820 billion would be enough to give every unemployed American $75,000.

Says Stein: “There has been pork-barrel politics since there has been politics, but the scale of this pork is beyond what had ever been imagined before — and no one can be sure it will actually do much stimulation. … This has been a punch in the solar plexus to the kind of responsible, far-seeing, mature government processes that are needed to protect America.”

Good Night tec1965… sweet dreams…

bqueen
I thought that link was to Coldplay…

Exquisite video! Excellent work! Brava!! Brava!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ux-9877GpRg

where is everyone??? hello….echo… echo… echo

……………………crickets………….

This is an interesting factoid:

States that have never had a female governor
As of January 2009, a total of 27 states will have never had a female governor. Those states are:

Arkansas, California, Colorado, Florida, Georgia, Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Maine, Maryland, Minnesota, Mississippi, Missouri, Nevada, New Mexico, New York, North Dakota, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, South Dakota, Tennessee, Virginia, West Virginia, Wisconsin,

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_female_state_governors_in_the_United_States

Also on the same link it shows:

Democrats have had a toal of 20 female Governors as of Jan 2009
Republicans have had a total of 12 female Governors as of Jan 2009

Am I surprised by this… nope not at all.

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_female_state_governors_in_the_United_States

@ #90

If that “2012″ trailer music sounds familiar, it is because it is the original music from “The Shining” trailer:

The Shining Official Trailer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Chq_92_KXU

(I hear a swarm of bees in there…man, that is creepy cool music)

from NOQ, by bert
“Why Social Security Matters To ALL of Us”

“During the Bush administration there was a move afoot to privatize Social Security. There are rumors and signals from the Obama administration that politicians will again try to “save” Social Security by privatizing it.

It is amazing that while most, if not all of us, pay into the system and will some day be eligible to receive benefits, most of us know very little about how the program came about and how it operates. There is a lot of misinformation out there and many people labor under some pretty big myths about the program.”

http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/02/08/why-social-security-matters-to-all-of-us/

@ #97

“However, a “just the facts, ma’am” mentality is exactly what we will need if we are to save this vital core social safety net from politicians who for some reason want to do away with this program. That is the purpose of this post and future ones if necessary. I want to give you, I want to arm you with facts about our – your – Social Security program.”

(I haven’t read this article yet, looks interesting!)

Proportionally, NY outranks California

Dances,

You have mail….

Sunshinelvr,

It was a beautiful day here too… we had weather… which is fun for us So. Cal people. It’s been raining on and off all day at my house… I actually have had to put socks on…

lol following behind Sunshinelvr, first woman elected to Congress was 1917, now that’s impressive…

http://womenincongress.house.gov/profiles/index.html?id=R000055

Jeannette Rankin
United States Representative, 1917–1919
United States Representative, 1941–1943
Republican from Montana

Jeannette Rankin’s life was filled with extraordinary achievements: she was the first woman elected to Congress, one of the few suffragists elected to Congress, and the only Member of Congress to vote against U.S. participation in both World War I and World War II. “I may be the first woman member of Congress,” she observed upon her election in 1916. “But I won’t be the last.”

There is more to read, it’s very interesting…

Cali has more than NY, though and Gillibrand is listed twice.
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goofsmom, I was glad to see the sun and the mild weather (well, actually 72 degrees) becuase I really HATE cold weather, even though I didn’t mind the snow so much a few years ago when we lived on the East Coast. I just don’t want to live in it.

I know..

I wonder what would happen if we lost social security…is it just that individuals would be responsible for their savings, but then if there is a national emergency–they would be living in Hoovervilles? What about if a spouse dies, then there is nothing but personal inheritance? and then what if there is no money and…then what happens to us when we are old? Where do we go and what do we do?

My retirement will be based on my retirement savings and social security. Now that my retirement is halved, I’ll probably have to work until I’m no longer able.

In that case, kat, hopefully family members would make a place for the parents. Or they would be homeless. There are many , though, who do not have any children or family to turn to, so I can’t imagine where they would go. I wonder sometimes, if the wealthy ever really consider what the poor actually have to cope with from day to day. Like, “well, I will pay the electric this month and try to catch the water bill next month.” Or maybe I can eat peanut butter sandwiches today so that I can have a hamburger on Sunday. If they had to make some of the neccessary choices that some people have to make everyday just to survive , I think they would have a totally different view of what their jobs are supposed to be about and how they should be doing them.

TrishfromCanada 02.08.09 at 10:32 pm

thanks Trish, I didn’t realize that.

Are Republican women less likely to run (tradition views of male and female roles), or are Republicans just less likely to vote for a woman?

Sunshinelvr 02.08.09 at 10:39 pm [edit]

TrishfromCanada 02.08.09 at 10:32 pm

thanks Trish, I didn’t realize that.

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Thank you for asking, I had forgotten she was listed twice

Yes, our own biosphere! I like that.

Okay… we’ll do research… like,
–how long can ssome pumas live together befire killing each other?
I guess that would be the main study.

DancesWithPumas 02.08.09 at 10:21 pm

Wow, Billie Jo, that’s the first time I’ve even heard you make a sexist remark… and atwo-fer at that. That women attack other women out of jealousy for their looks, and that the remark that she’s been hit with an ugly stick.
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I claim to being catty…I am still pissed at her bashing Sarah Palin and editing her as a moron. I am not a Palin supporter, I am a Hillary supporter and I can’t stand her now.

and maybe all the verts could get together one evening a month.

BillieJo
Who is Catie? Catie Couric?

lol.

Well…maybe there would be a no-talking day or something. Yeah, ya know, like quiet meditation day and we all just nod to one another out of respect as we move around. Also, there would be a vacation spot…some place off base where pumas rotate to go be alone and think in peace. Ya, and also a public grievance board balanced by positive affirmation/ optimism board to help work out issues. um…and sunset and sunrise and full moon ceremonies….lol. Yes, could be peaceful.

I just received this from a friend. Anyone in the Elkhart Indiana area who disagrees with this mess might want to go and check it out.

Heneri

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President Obama is coming to Indiana tomorrow morning in an attempt to sell his trillion dollar plus “stimulus” package.

We at Americans for Prosperity caught wind of a “Truth About Obama’s Stimulus Plan Rally” happening outside Obama’s event. Please forward this information to your family and friends — it’s vital that we show President Obama and the media the outrage felt by average Americans over this unprecedented explosion in federal spending.

Join others who are skeptical of this stimulus scheme at:

Where:

Concord High School

59040 Minuteman Way

Elkhart, IN 46517

When:

Monday, February 9th, 2009

10am – Noon

E-mail Lindseymustard@yahoo.com for more information.

Sincerely;

Emery McClendon / KB9IBW
http://www.armad.net

Families United For Our Troops And Their Mission
http://www.familiesunitedmission.com/

U.S. Army Freedom Team Salute
http://www.freedomteamsalute.com/

DancesWithPumas 02.08.09 at 10:50 pm

BillieJo
Who is Catie? Catie Couric?
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Yup

Are my comments being ‘moderated’ or did I somehow make a mistake when I submitted one?

Sunshinelvr:

sweet dreams

Henri
The bot musta caught you on the number of links… I think 5 is teh limit… might be three. Can’t recall now.

Night Sunshinelvr…

invalidresponse 02.08.09 at 10:53 pm
wait!! not fair I am one “vert” and the people I get along best with are the other “verts” ….can I just lie about which “vert” I am????
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That would be so funny! I can’t begin to imagine an introvert pretending to be and extravert…. but I can see an extravert pretending to be an introvert… for maybe ten minutes at a clip.

Invalid
Ever notice how none of the introverts ever say :::crickets::: when Pumas are quiet?
It’s always an extravert. LOL

Some people seem to be both introverted and/or extroverted depending on the situation.

Kat,

I was thinking the same thing… I absolutely love, love, love the idea. Maybe we could set up a website and sell the bracelets… Start our own little movement… plus it would give men a clue.

Indiana would be: midwest@pumapac.org

I’m more extraverted on the blog… off the blog I’m introverted

I will contact MY group, but in the meantime, any spreading of the word to those interest parties is appropriate. It is obvious that there are several groups planning to attend. I think that has just been put together, as Obama didn’t give much notice, maybe for a reason? anyway, I posted it so that those who are interested or who know someone in the area who could possibly attend might pass it along.

I think extraverts get recharged around people, whereas, I think, introverts recharge when alone, and get drained around people.

Way off subject………….

It has come to my attention that there are a number of mortgage servicing companies who ARE NOT crediting payments and who are trying to foreclose properties that should not be foreclosed. I have been working on this myself for a couple of weeks now. I filed a complaint with the Federal Trade Comission when this happened to me. Now I found out today that the same thing is happening to a relative. I have advised her to file a complaint also.

Anyone who is facing this problem or knows someone who is:
1. File a complaint with the Federal Trade Commission
AND
2. File a complaint with your state Attorney General or Consumer complaint organization

Both of these entities are in the -phone book most places. If you don’t find them there, go to Federaltradecommission.gov on the computer.

RAW DATA: List of Banks Receiving Funds From $700B TARP

This list includes all the banks receiving funds from the Treasury’s $700B Troubled Assets Relief Program (TARP).

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/02/05/raw-data-list-banks-receiving-funds-b-tarp/

Dances #163

Yes, I agree with that.

DancesWithPumas 02.08.09 at 11:21 pm

I think extraverts get recharged around people, whereas, I think, introverts recharge when alone, and get drained around people.

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yup, Dances you are correct. I used to give the Meyers-Briggs tests. I tell people if they want a quick “test” for themselves just ask themselves if it was a Friday night, they were tired after a long week, and they were invited to a party, what would they do. If they say, “Yes, I am soooo there” and get energized by the party, they’re extroverts. If they say, “No way, I am exhausted I need to stay home and relax” they are introverts. It’s the difference in how extroverts and introverts “recharge” their batteries.

Kat
Right on!
I haven’t been to this site, but Judy Grahn, a lesbian poet and member of Diana Press, wrote about menstruation and culture in.
http://www.Metaformia.org A journal of menstruation and culture with a link to “Blood Bread, and Roses: How Menstruation Created the World”, which you can read online.

#30, bqueen….word.

But my gawd…30 foot waves.

Dances, thank you! I will check it out.

#53 jenni….ugh…not surprised, but thanks for the info.

#165 Heneri…!

Oh no…I hope you will be ok. Thanks for the alert.

#180 Heneri –

If it is happening there where you live, it must be rampant here in CA… I’m so sorry it happened to you and I hope you can get everything worked out for your relative…

#54 Heneri

Wow…interesting. I did not know this about Napoleon.

Dances,

I will check it out… thank you!

I love it when Zee comes on and catches up with the comments. It helps me go back and read things I missed!
Thank you, Zee!

Kat in your hat,

You can still have your red rhinestone bracelet… I’d love to find one like that with a cat on it…

DancesWithPumas,

LOLOL… hehe…

:::nodding wisely:::

“You can read “Blood Bread, and Roses: How Menstruation Created the World” online.”–dances

This site is good:
http://bailiwick.lib.uiowa.edu/wstudies/grahn/

oh, it’s linked to the other site dances posted. lol.

Ok, well, I am glad I have it.

#69…sigh…#69, not #62! Soon, I will need reading glasses for the computer screen..

kat
Judy’s partner was Native American, and every Sunday, for several weeks, they would hold readings at MamaBears bookstore in Oakland (Used to be A Woman’s Place… the first bookstore in the nation to carry titles by women only… hundreds of titles),, anyway, when we walked in, they would hand all the menstrual women a red rose, and a white one for post menopausal women. I was their way of honoring us.

lol…..ZEE top left corner of the page….under “view” scroll down to zoom, over to zoom in……there instant reading glasses for computer screen…

Dances, oh, that is so nice. *smiling* Was just thinking, I don’t ever go to “women’s places” except for maybe nail salon (meh)…there are probably tons of things going on in nyc that I don’t even know about.

lol,,, she is at #69…that was post #204….sigh she will be blind before she gets to it…..never mind….

#83 ben stein? lololol!
Sheesh, people.

Do you even read a word Murphy writes? Or follow anything Hillary has every said or done?

kat
Not even sure how many exist any more… although… NYC, Boston, SFO, Albuquerque, and Eugene… probably. Many ion the SFO Bay Area and surrounding counties tho.

The mortgage servicing company we are dealing with is headquartered in California. We live in Indiana. Our Attorney General has had several complaints, including ours.

I also have work to do in the morning. Being boss has its perks, but it also has its responsibilities. I have a big report due out by noon, and lots of correspondence to answer.

I will call it a night. At least I didn’t just read and lurk tonight…………

invalidresponse 02.09.09 at 12:04 am
lol,,, she is at #69…that was post #204….sigh she will be blind before she gets to it…..never mind….
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LOL LOL!! Nice gesture though.

#196 Heneri

Here’s a link to the Attorneys General for all states

http://www.naag.org/attorneys_general.php

goofsmom,

Unfortunately it also appears the number of women running for office is dropping, now the decrease could be due to a decrease in the number of seats up for election in each year, but that would only explain the decrease in number of women running. It does not explain the decrease in number of women winning.

Zee #224

Me too.

#190, goofsmom! lolol!

Thanks…too funny. I admit I am tuckered out catching up and I decided to skip the entire menstrual thread tho it interests me very much. I did write a poem about women wearing red….and watching the fundamentalists scatter (who consider us “unclean” during certain times).

TrishfromCanada 02.09.09 at 12:23 am goofsmom,
Unfortunately it also appears the number of women running for office is dropping, now the decrease could be due to a decrease in the number of seats up for election in each year, but that would only explain the decrease in number of women running. It does not explain the decrease in number of women winning.
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Could also be that women have created / discovered more efficient ways to get things done, and by-pass the notion of putting themselves through the meat grinder of politics.

goodnight all

Heh, MK.

Yes, Dances…it is the point to comment…but I still wish that we had threads like they do in NoQuarter where you can directly reply underneath comments. On the other hand I had to give up even reading that forum because it loads so slowly and who knows if that is because of their format? I’m no techie, so my ideal format may not even exist!

Oh wait… but yes, having the option of responding more directly to a comment vs responding 200 comments down the line

This dachshund more or less trotted around owning the place, so the term “Napoleon complex” actually originated from the dachshund, not the man!
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So it has nothing to do with insecure short men needing to prove themselves?

Goofs? Zee has less than 32 comments to get through, and half of them are her responses, so we’ll be able to say hello to her soon!

#237 Dances…it’s all about the overcompensating short dogs.

Have you ever known a dachshund? No wonder Napoleon was drawn to them!

They have other endearing traits, like being cute and comical…but they also have that “Napoleonic” complex.

Okay Zee is burning the comments at both ends now…. 206 and 237…she’s going to run into herself at 215.

And all the time I kept thinking…I want to wish Murphy and Mama happy birthdays!

My own mama, my son, my niece, my ex, my cousin and my friend all have birthdays this month, too. Whew.

Hello Zee….. after that I felt like I was cheering you on while you swam the alantic…..congrads…here have a towel…

Laundry’s done!
Goodnight all.
Goodnight Puma Nation!

good seeing you again, Zee.

goodnight Dances

Nighty-Night Dances… Sweet puma dreams…

Zee YIPEE…

Invalid… I know me too… here she comes… she’s almost here.. Yay… Zee crossed the finish line…

Pisces…
June 20…Gemini / Cancer cusp.

Hello!!! DWP and invalidresponse….I see you two pumas have been having fun… (#34, #38, #39)…All I have to say is where is my freaking Iron….??? So, I have been catching up on the post earlier and I see tonight’s topic has been introverts and extroverts… Well, I am ” when I feel like it but, don’t get in my way…And, leave me a lone vert” OOPS!!! (just testing) No post… YOU TWO are too much!!!!

Dang… I hate going to bed now … after the “blog in review” is completed.

Z
yes, you do.

all my planets are below the horizon…
it’s that cancer and moon in cancer that sets me off crying all teh time!

“sets me off crying”… I think I’m picking up a southern
accent

DWP did you see post #257????????

night, dances and invalid and goofsmom. Hey Casper Cat….?

Zee…

I’m not ready to go to bed… Just saying night to everyone… including John Boy… LOL

Hey, goofsmom what about Mary Ellen???

Casper Cat,

Hehehe… LOL

Oh, I see, goofsmom!

Hey CasperCat…well, it’s late here but I don’t want to go to bed.

goofsmom, I really feel for those who don’t keep up on the pumasphere…and also some of the other feminist blogs. There’s no way to catch people up…

That is ok Zee you have all the support you need here to not go to bed until YOU are ready… I know, I feel the same way… What time zone are you??? Just curious… You know, sometimes when I do get to bed really late 1:30/2:30am and when I get up 8:00/9:00 and I check the puma blog (3 hours ahead of me) I feel like I have missed the whole day…

I did a lot of catch-up reading last night and found out that one in our pumasphere suffered a loss…check out insight-analytical if you know the posters I mean.

If I get the job I hope to get I will have even less time to keep up, but so be it..!

So, are you west-coasters planning a get-together?

Sorry, goofsmom I do not know any place in Ontario or Rancho..I do know that the Cask n’ Cleaver is in Rancho I could see what I could do there.. I used to be the District Manager for their company for 12 years… It is on Mountain Ave… let me know…

Zee…

No, I didn’t know the people involved at insight-analytical but I was just reading it… It is so sad but true…

Yes, we So Cal Puma’s are trying to get a little gathering together…

Casper Cat… That sounds wonderful to me…

Hi hills…

Grammy’s over???

Yes, Zee I am on the West Coast… And, if you do get that job… ( hope you do) I would be glad to send you an email of the info and topic and prowles… Please let me know… I know what it is like to try to keep up… But, being an Real Estate Investor I am my own boss.. So, I make my own hours (sometime’s) Really, no problem…Let me know.. And, I will send you my email address to help… after-all isn’t that what all of this is about… Helping one another….

hi goofsmom!
No they’re still on, lol..!

Here’s the link to listen to Jason Mraz, PUMA’s, YOU be the judge, lol:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7Z2EvsOhFw

OH & it’s a fun music video, I think there’s some clips of Hawaii in it…

goofsmom please email DWP she has my cell and home phone..I don’t want to post it here… I am sure you know why… So, we can get this get together settled.. Thanks.. Also, how many??

#288 Casper Cat, that’s sweet…I do get the prowls by email, at least. I signed up a while ago. I do write letters, but tend to make phone calls instead where possible because they are more fun!

Real Estate investor, that’s awesome. I love houses and watch all the house shows on TV. Did you read Heneri’s alert on what some mortgage companies are doing? I’m lucky that my mortgage is with a local credit union. And I’ve been painting my kitchen, pantry, etc. because when I’m ready to retire to a warm climate I not only want my house ready to sell, but I want to have enjoyed living in it like this instead of sprucing it up last minute! Buying and fixing up property sounds like a dream job to me…but thanks for the good wishes…the job I’m in consideration for is no slouch, either!

Zee…

Sorry, I was still reading links… I hope you get that job you want to!

Casper Cat…

I’ll send a mail to Dances so we can chat… I did have your number a few months ago and now I can’t find it…

Hills… Sweet Dreams…

Yes! Zee this is a buyer’s market.. I pay Cash for my properties and I do fix them up… I buy them AS-IS Cash deal and the banks cannot refuse… though, they are not high end properties ($500 hundred thousand and more) they are none the less, properties that I can purchase, fix up and Rent… Right now that is the Market.. And, later on when the Market and the Economy are back in shape I can carry a mortagage on them for those who want to buy. I went to law school for 4 years to earn my JD in Law .. I focused in Contracts, and Real Property… I have been doing this for about 20 years….. I try to tell my friends and family OWN and not be in debt to anyone… even, if you have to do without once in a while… Today, I am doing well… I retired at 35 years of age… I am now 46… Yes, I do work but, at my request… I alway’s strive to live within my means and even less…

Darn it… should read “and am” not are…

Typo’s multiply if you don’t correct them immediately…

Good night Zee…

Hey, goofsmom please let me know if you do not get my number from DWP… But, I think you will.. But, just in case let me know… thanks… Oh, by the way I will be leaving for Las Vegas Tue-Thur this week.. I may not have computer access… I will be home Thur eve and I will be checking in… thanks….

take care, western Pumas!

In honor of one of the Grammy winners to you that were Led Zepplin fans back in the day……….see Robert Plant …

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81eSIwsLcWg

wow> I just did as Zee does–read to catch up. I am so glad we have this blog. I had trouble with my mortgage company this month, too. It’s so nice to be able to come on here and see that it is happening to (aw, you know what I mean ! )others and have an idea of what to do about it. They did not send the bill, & kept encouraging me to have it deducted automatically (which I do not want to do right now)(plus, if you try to pay on-line they charge EXTRA fees!, even though the payment is NOT late), so I had to do an end run around and try to get the correct address to send the payment.Lucky for me, I keep up on it, so had ample time to get it in before it was late.I was pretty anxious though to see if it got credited on time. It did! Whew! I never want to be late! Way too many fees!

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DancesWithPumas 02.08.09 at 10:22 pm

Sunshine,
are you saying that a woman is appealing based soley on her looks
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I sure made it sound like that. However, I started to watch Katie years ago because the hype that always surrounded her and I had time for ‘morning shows’. Joan Lunden was the one I really watched. She had the personality that drew me, but when she retired, moved on, I was at a loose end and Katie appeared about that time. Her personality sort of repealed/fascinated, so I started watching. It was just pukey-fying (yes, a new word) the way she acted with Palin, I mean, even if you don’t support the policies, show some class and respect. Katie lost all her credibility with me and I was just ‘trashing’ her. You know when when some people ‘trash’ others, looks are the first thing commented on! but there are other reasons!(call me shallow!)

You know you have a pro-rich administration when the very rich are seen crying in the media at the onset (but not afterwards)
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2009/02/09/poor-little-rich-people/

Ah..They are going to want more money! When will it end??

WASHINGTON — The easy part is coming to an end.

Doug Mills/The New York Times
President Obama and Treasury Secretary Timothy F. Geithner must determine the next effort to fix the financial system.

Ask just about anyone in Washington involved in the $800-billion-plus economic stimulus legislation churning its way through Congress and they will tell you it is a milestone — but without question the less expensive, and politically and technically less chancy, part of the Great National Bailout of 2009.

This week, President Obama and his Treasury secretary, Timothy F. Geithner, will prepare the country for the next, and far more difficult, step: another attempt to fill the huge hole blown in the center of the nation’s financial system.

No one has yet put a price tag on that effort. But the administration’s diagnosis of what went wrong with the first attempt to right the financial system — that it was too small, and that the problem has ballooned in recent months — suggests that the next effort will almost certainly entail a far bigger commitment of taxpayer dollars than the $350 billion left from last year’s $700 billion effort to right the system, and probably far more than the stimulus package.

At his first news conference, scheduled Monday evening, Mr. Obama is expected to argue that the nation’s recovery depends on simultaneously firing on three cylinders.

The stimulus that the House and Senate are now hashing out is one, intended to help create or protect jobs by funneling money to individuals, companies and state and local governments.

Unplugging the stoppage in the credit system that has kept consumers and businesses from borrowing the money they need, by shoring up shaky or failing banks, is the second part, and a vital one: offering a $15,000 tax credit to home buyers, administration officials argue, will not do much good if the buyers simply cannot get a mortgage.

And the final part, which Mr. Obama is not expected to announce for days, involves spending billions of dollars more to prevent home foreclosures, for fear that the displacement and anger created by throwing people out of their homes, and putting more properties onto a glutted market, will create a psychological and financial death spiral.

Rest of the story here…
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/09/us/politics/09econ.html?ref=us

warning…Please keep an eye on your credit card bills. I received a late charge on the same day my bank statement arrived showing my check had cleared before the due date. It took four phone calls from me and two faxes from my bank to rectify the problem. They assured me it wouldn’t effect my credit score. At this point I’m terrified to check it knowing I can’t handle the helpless fury that would ensue.

Sunshinelvr:

If you are still on: That is exactly what they did to us! You could be telling our story about their billing practices. They didn’t send the monthly statement, we sent the payment, and they didn’t credit it because it was not accompanied by a payment coupon, even though we wrote a note and included the account number!

If your servicing company is Homeq out of North Carolina or California, TURN THEM IN ASAP! I started the investigation into them by filing my complaints. If enough people complain, there will be a class action suit against them by the FTC.

good luck

All I can hope is that Hillary will come out swinging at some point. I have long suspected that she was being ‘promoted’ to get her (and Bill) out of the way so those who are up to no good could do their thing. I had hoped I was wrong.

I worry about our nation, and I pray every day that this nightmare will end in a good way. Obama is the worst thing that has happened to our nation in a long time. To say it as if it is one man is incorrect, I suppose. He has a minion of evil all around him planning and executing all kinds of horrors. Just like Bush before him, he is determined and well supported in his efforts. May the Lord have mercy on us all.

I am just soooo happy that some early morning pumas are as miffed about this as I am !

Sunshinelvr:
Wells Fargo recently bought out Wachovia. Homeq is a subsiderary of Wachovia. My guess is that WF is utilizing Homeq and their billing system now that the merger is complete. Sounds like one and the same mess to me.

Heneri 02.09.09 at 7:59 am
Yes I do know they recently aquired Wachovia..so I had better keep a very close eye on this mess. I will pass the word on to all that I can.– and the credit card mess, too! –posted by gojoyknocks 02.09.09 at 7:36 am ! We have to stay on our toes.

This BS move by Obtuse puts Powers ABOVE Hillary on the totem pole ! I am so mad that if I weren’t such a chicken I would call Dances and wake her up just to scream about this !

At this point I am in a very bad mood. I am sure this financial mess is going to get worse before it gets better. Sometimes, deep in my gut, I HOPE a whole lot of the people/companies who caused this and who are now profiting from it just collapse from within and we never hear from them again.

It is time for Bill and Hill to take a walk from the Democratic party. They are being treated like stepchildren, which is the role the powers in the party have designated.

Most people know I advocate a breech from both parties into unaffiliated for any serious candidate or person. Joining a political party is like selling your soul.

TexasTigress:

You’ll be interested in watching this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-O5XxXm8wPE

Samantha Power’s plan is for the USA to switch investing billions of dollars in Israel and to put that money into building Palestine, and to alienate Israel.

You gotta see this. If it were not so true, one could LMAO:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/31592459@N08/3266740290/

There is more too, I just have to go for now.

See, such a radical shift like she wants would cause serious consequences.

We would lose an ally. And our mutual relationships with allies would weaken as well, etc etc.

pumas, I’ll be back later. have a good day.

TexasTigress 02.09.09 at 8:07 am
This BS move by Obtuse puts Powers ABOVE Hillary on the totem pole ! I am so mad that if I weren’t such a chicken I would call Dances and wake her up just to scream about this !
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New recording on my answering machine:
We’re sorry, the number you’ve dialed in no longer in service, or has been temprorarily disconnected. If you feel you’ve received this message in error… please hang up and tell someone who gives a darn.

Jenny just tries to chew on my computer cord and then barks at me when I tell her “No” … imagine ..

Luckily Hillary…(correction)

TT
I suggest a prowl against Samanth Powers to let her know that people (esp. Pumas) are watching everything she does and we will make public every time she undercuts the S of S (but don’t spell that out, just let her know we’re watching). Then send the same prowls to the SCFP so she knows we are getting the word out.