I second that emotion

Hey Murph,

Have you heard of the Silent Sentinels?

http://pumaeyes.wordpress.com/

Awesome picture, Dances.

Murphy,
You have mail

Just so you know, there is no escape from the cOrOnation. Even here in blighty they are showing it live on Tuesday on BBC. evil I do hope that there will be refuge in the pumasphere.

Just made donation thru paypal for me and one other Puma who may not be able. I don’t eat lunches, so the money I save from that is going to us. I have not been on all day, actually had to work at 1st job today Now on way to second one. I sure hope everyone has a great nite. Will try to catch up later tonight, or in the morning.

The Red Hat Society hold a lot of conventions here in Vegas. I used to see them when i worked downtown at the Fitzgeralds back when i worked. Fun and nice women.

catsden: We need to keep our eyes on that but I don’t think we have to worry about it with Obama. He’s a one term president.

Puma.sf1: just looked at that film excerpt (#1)…ughhhhhhhh. That film should be mandatory viewing in high school.

Just found this: In January of 2007, the City along with a host of other organizations and agencies conducted a point-in-time assessment of the homeless population in Chicago. The research indicates that 5,922 people are homeless in Chicago at a given time. This includes individuals residing in shelter and housing programs as well as those living on the street.

Now just think how each and every one of those people could be warm and well fed all winter with far less than Oblah-blahs 150 million hedonistic narcissistic wasteful obscene bash.

puma.sf1, #15: I wish I had your confidence.

catsden#10 got to your link but had to google it first:
Thanks.
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:H.J.Res.5:

puma sf – i know, too much vodka!

kat in your hat 01.16.09 at 5:53 pm
I thought I would pass on the Red Hat Society information in case any women here had not heard of them:
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My neighbor joined Red Hat Society years ago (20?). Walked into an introductory lucnheon. Sat with 5 other women…
they’ve been best friends ever since and have travelled the world together! Aside from the 6 of them partaking in local cultural events and short cruises, once or twice a year they go on a big trip: China, Russia, bicycling in Europe, etc.

Another good group is Elder Hostel. Adventure group for elders.

O/T: bgirldeedee’s finger performance

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcaslP9ODAk&feature=related

I wonder if there are any women in the ERA group who could sew a new banner for the ERA.

I bet you could have banners printed somewhere…

taggles1 01.16.09 at 6:25 pm
I wonder if there are any women in the ERA group who could sew a new banner for the ERA.
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Joannatehmaid’s postcard would make an excellent horizontal banner design… so would copying the original!
The Silent Sentinels design… poignant.
http://pumapac.org/A%20Message%20for%20Women%20and%20Girls.html

I just heard that Bambi is honoring McCain on Monday with some shindig. Now why did McCain say yes to this? He should have politely said no thank you. Bambi is trying to soften him up in the Senate so he won’t vote against him or get others against him. It’s all political and manipulative on Bambi’s part.

I got one of those sew it yourself gifts at Christmas, it fell apart by New Year. True.

Sewing was never my thing. I made one dress (with help) for my daughter years ago, and it took me forever with a lot of frustration. I can hand sew – that’s my extent. I’m more crafty minded I guess.

Looks like the only Red Hat Society is in England! Yay! Sign me up.

#118 sandipuma, previous thread, great post on the new “First Family”, sandipuma!!

but don’t expect me to make my own hat

I ahd to take millinery in 8th grade…we made pillbox hats… ugh. I switched to carpentry after that..

lol ipotter!

Happy Saturday PUMAs (it is here)

If you hear the dogs, keep going.

If you see the torches in the woods, keep going.

If they’re shouting after you, keep going.

Don’t ever stop. Keep going.

If you want a taste of freedom, keep going.

and if that doesn’t make sense, well I have had a few glasses of wine tonight, it’s just after midnight and you still totally rock, no matter what the haters, stalkers or obots say.

((((((((PUMAs)))))))))

Alice Rodham Puma! No one can kill these threads!

I guess other people have lives on Friday night…here I am listening to Tags show and some woman called in to ask her if she thinks abortion is icky??

Dances…Dances…are you still around?

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LOL!

She went on to say something about the fire service which I thought was total nonsense as well.
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Right. That the fireperson exam was easier for women than the one for men. NOT TRUE.
But then one of teh hosts said something like that there was no way women had the upper body strength of men.
Too much of a generalization. I know some women who are way stronger than some men. So, it has to be taken on a one to one basis.

Apparently, Mr. Conyers thinks we can correct the 50% high school dropout rate among African Americans and the disparity in reading, math and science scores by giving them reparations for slavery. I’m no expert but, seems to me it would just make them drop out sooner and not give a crap about reading, math and science.

Congressional Hearing Held on Slavery Reparations Bill

Final Call, News Report, Askia Muhammed, Posted: Jan 10, 2008

WASHINGTON (FinalCall.com) – For the first time ever, the U.S. Congress officially studied the institution of slavery, its legacy, as well as U.S. efforts to address it and its consequences, during hearings by the Subcommittee on the Constitution, Civil Rights and Civil Liberties on Dec. 18.

It was the first time H.R. 40, the proposal to establish a Commission to Study Reparation Proposals for African Americans Act has had any kind of a hearing, even though the legislation has been introduced every year for almost two decades by Rep. John Conyers (D-Mich.), the new chairman of the House Judiciary Committee.

“For over 19 years, I have introduced H.R. 40—not to spark controversy or promote division—but to direct attention to a historical wrong that warrants substantial consideration,” Mr. Conyers said when he gaveled the session to order. “With an H.R. 40 commission, this nation could come closer to racial equality and understanding. Slavery is a blemish on this nation’s history, and until it is addressed, our country’s story will remain marked,” he continued.

The racial disparities, which exist throughout the society are ample evidence, Mr. Conyers insisted, that the vestiges of slavery remain: the Black high school drop-out rate is 50 percent compared to 23 percent for Whites; national average scores in math, science and reading for Black 17-year-olds are comparable to the scores for White 13-year-olds; the poverty rate of Blacks, at 24 percent, is twice the national average.

H.R. 40 is “necessary for this nation,” Mr. Conyers insisted. “We are here today to help folks open their minds as they consider supporting H.R. 40. I truly believe that today’s hearing will start the national dialogue,” which can lead to the formal establishment of a slavery commission, he said.

“This hearing looks not just to the past, but to the legacy of our own history of slavery as it continues to affect race relations and inequality in present day America,” agreed committee member Rep. Jerrold Nadler (D-N.Y.). “It is our duty to ask the difficult questions and to face up to our responsibilities to remedy the ongoing injustice of slavery that remains a part of our society.”

More:

http://news.ncmonline.com/news/view_article.html?article_id=93eca3cb4dd3232321a7e19d14f81cdc

Alice obviously they were both ahead of their time.

bqueen
Yep. It was weird. I was in teh chat room and kept typing: GET THE HOOK

Dances 67 & ARP (!) 72: I saw a woman help saw apart a 100 foot tree and toss it all in a chipper…She was pure muscle.

That caller was a bizarre!

Maybe, instead of reparartions, they could use that money to increase teachers’ salaries, hire after school tutors, develop tutoring programs at schools where under performance is an issue?

I think they should also think about compensating stay at home mothers, who didnt have many options for education and working outside the home until a very late date in our history. Even if it’s minimum wage, plus time and a half for work over 40 hours a week, time and a half for Saturdays, and double time for Sundays.

: evil : without spaces I think

oops
Just hover your cursor over the emoticon and teh code will appear….on pc anyway. If not, go to geek page of action center and look at teh emotical table

I would be happy to write a page that links to it all.

:puke:

Just sort of like this

How do do smileys?

Look here in the geek section of the action center

How do I do links?

Look here in the action center

How do

How do I do quotes

etc…

(only it would all be linked to the answers)

How do I donate?

etc etc etc…

then we can just point people to the FAQ, which points to different parts of the action center?

What do you think, or is it just an unneccessary extra level? I am in two minds about it but I would be glad to do it if it helps everyone.

Has anyone seen Hillgirl lately? If you do, ask her to email me.

DeadGirl there really is no escape from it. Not even here in the old country

wasn’t on a diet, not was…

I wonder if I SHOULD watch the unaugeration, just to see if its really true, and LIGHTNING BOLTS REALLY DO COME OUTTA HIS ASS WHEN HE SPEAKS!

LOL BQueen!

For the next ten contributors of – say – $20.00 dollars or more I’ll make a special preview of THE AUDACITY of DEMOCRACY available next week.

Goodnight Alice!

brad,

That is not fair. I gave earlier today and would love to see an early preview.

antifish -

So I offer to send out ten previews, and for that I’m receiving complaints?

Brad,

No, I’m not complaining, I just want in on the action. Pay to play, Baby! It’s the newest fad!

brad your opera singer film looks really interesting…

antifish -

I’ll send the ten DVDs to Murphy, she can do what she wants with them.

bqueen – Thanks. It IS interesting. And fun, too.

By the way, THE AUDACITY of DEMOCRACY is just under two hours long and is, I think, very enjoyable. I’m going to be making it available as a special 2-Disc set. Disc #1 is the movie itself, Disc #2 contains lots of other good stuff. Well over 3 1/2 hours of material, total.

Where can I get the audacity of Democracy?

clintondemocrat -

The initial release will be handled through Amazon.com

We’re submitting to festivals as well.

Murphy, taggles, Riverdaughter, and several others will be getting previews of the film next week.

Thanks brad mays.

Now is this the film that has trailers out on this site and on clintondems.com?

Oh, here we go. This is like voting “present”, only presidential style. That way he can still smooze with Warren and his minions once it passes and say “that’s not the Congress I knew when I served there”.

Obama may not lift stem cell limits
By CARRIE BUDOFF BROWN | 1/16/09 8:02 PM EST

Political observers had expected him to move swiftly to reverse President Bush’s 2001 executive order.

PHILADELPHIA, Pa. – President-elect Barack Obama signaled Friday that he might not use his executive authority to reverse Bush-era limits on stem cell research, but instead might wait for Congress to change the policy.

Obama pledged during the campaign to lift the restrictions, and political observers had expected him to move swiftly to reverse President Bush’s 2001 executive order – most likely with his own executive order.

But the president-elect suggested Friday that he would wait for Congress to weigh in on the issue.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0109/17540.html

Wonder if Michelle, Vera Baker and Larry Sinclair are jealous?

Obama tries to seduce Republicans
By JONATHAN MARTIN | 1/16/09 5:45 PM EST Text Size:

It’s no secret Barack Obama is trying to seduce Republicans these days. But his conservative courting runs much deeper and wider than is publicly known.

It’s no secret Barack Obama is trying to seduce Republicans these days. But his conservative courting runs much deeper and wider than is publicly known.

Obama has had meetings with his former opponent John McCain, GOP congressional leaders and some of the country’s leading conservative commentators. He’s also honoring McCain and Colin Powell in high-profile pre-inaugural dinners, where Obama is expected to toast the Republicans.

Behind the scenes, Obama and his team are working just as hard, courting prominent Republicans and conservatives through frequent phone calls, e-mails and private sit-downs.

The selection of evangelical pastor Rick Warren for the inaugural invocation and Obama’s dinner with right-of-center writers at George F. Will’s home drew significant buzz. But the transition also has quietly reached out to other prominent figures atop the Southern Baptist Church, Charles Colson’s Prison Fellowship Ministry and the Jewish Orthodox Union.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0109/17532.html

Ok, I was on last night for the first time in a long time. I made some statements, that gave me the very strong impression of a few things. I’m going to come right out and ask bluntly. Does PUMA, and the PUMA members, now feel that having O as president is no big deal anymore? Do you not see how very very dangerous this is? Do you feel this is less dangerous than having GWB? Do you honestly think that this man, being president during THE most dangerous time in world (and U.S.) history is not a VERY VERY dangerous thing? I hope I misunderstood you last night…

Murphy:

Haha, is there ONE democratic principle or Democratic principle that the he will stand up for. Well no on both accounts because it was not democracy that got him selected, it was tyrany and authorotarian control. And as I have proudly stated since June 2007, he is not a Democrat. Democrats who I know and love call me crazy and ask me “well what the hell do you think he is, a Republican?” I say I don’t know what he is but he is NOT a Democrat, he looks more to be a dictator.

No, murphy, he doesn’t stand up for democratic (as in democracy) principles or Democratic (as in long-time party) principles.

I wanted to go to Bristol, va during his first speech after the primary and ask him: Mr. Obama will make the following statement “I am a Democrat” I can guarantee you, he wouldn’t do it. He would give some BS answer aobut partisian politics and that he’s the future.

I heard soemone else say that they would ask him: Mr. Obama please look this man in the eye and say “I am citizen of the United States of America.” “I have no alligence nor have ever had any alligence to any other country for any other reason at any time in my life.” They don’t think he would say that either and would instead give some BS answer about being open to the world.

Well, DWP… there were several people who stated very strongly that there was NO WAY they would ever say that that O was a worse pres than GWB. Did I misread those statements? There were several who said that in no uncertain terms….

Oh no, where will the Bots hang out if they are barred from the inauguration?

DC To Erect Prostitution-Free Zones During Inaugural Weekend
January 16, 2009 05:47 PM

Washington, DC will be setting “Prostitution Free Zones” in various areas downtown during the Inauguration. This will be the most exciting city-wide clampdown on prostitutes since that time Mayor Marion Barry attempted to march them all out of the city across the 14th Street Bridge. Not to worry. These zones have an expiration date, after which Washington’s hookers can re-exert their control over the city streets.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/01/16/dc-to-erect-prostitution_n_158659.html

taggles1 was the first to say that I was wrong about how bad O would be… followed up by perhaps 4 or 5 more saying the same kind of thing before I finally logged off.

KarenWI 01.16.09 at 9:09 pm
Well, DWP… there were several people who stated very strongly that there was NO WAY they would ever say that that O was a worse pres than GWB. Did I misread those statements? There were several who said that in no uncertain terms….
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If you’re already set on your own answer, why bother asking the question in the first place? PLease don;t respond, that was a rhetorical question. Thanks.

Someone else said to me today, that Obama’s going to get his chance to prove himself, I quipped back with he doesn’t have the right to have the chance.

Damn it. This is not effing school. This is not boy scouts where we give everyone a chance to suceed no matter what their background. Damn, there are very very very good reasons to protect, defend, and uphold the constitution, even if it means ideologically not having a president that the rest of the world is portrayed to love.

Furthermore on that topic, I think it’s becoming abundandtly clear that despite the little bear and music Obama love fest from Germany, the rest of the world is looking on this as another example of our flagrant arrogance. There is a world financial crisis and this crap is going to cost a fortune.

I don’t know what parts of the constitution you think Bush ran roughshod over. If you think that listening in on phone conversations of suspected terrorists isn’t VITAL to our national security, you are wrong. Just as in ALL wars they intercepted messags and decdoed them, we have to do the same here or we are dead. Other than that I have no idea what constitutional things Bush ignored. Obama, on the other hand, is planning on swearing to uphold the constitution when he already broke it by not being elible for the job as described in the constitution. He is on the side of our enemy, and against our friend. He is planning on creating an indefinate time in office by eliminating term limits and giving ACORN a job in his administration. The list goes on and on…. including the 401-k’s and so much much more.

I don’t know if O is a dem or not, but he sure in hell (and I don’t often talk in that language) is NOT a republican. No repub would take away the tax benefit of 401k’s or the other things he’s got ready to go….

They shoot horses, don’t they?

Re: Obama being a Democrat:

One of my former friends always said “I can smell out a Republican” Well I kind of felt that way too. But when it came to Obama way back at that Young Democrats of America Convention in 2007, I didn’t know what the hell he was but Democrat, I knew immediately he was not that.

I almost wanted to yell out in the middle of the auditorium he was speaking in: WHAT ARE YOU? STOP PRETENDING YOU ARE REPRESENTING NOTHING OF OUR PARTY AND DON’T EVEN KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING HERE.

It was really bizarre and continues to be.

Sometimes it’s big stuff and sometimes it’s little stuff like where he stood for the photo in the oval office with the other presidents. Even that AA comedian on CNN was laughing that it looked like Obama was using the Bush’s to shield him from Bill Clinton and Jimmy Carter. There were 2 appropriate places to stand: either he should have been right in the middle between dub and Bill or he should have been between Bill and Jimmy. He went EXACTLY where he SHOULD NOT have gone and got his smiling face as though it was Christmas day, right between two Bush’s.

That is not an accident. He is not a Democrat. It’s just a subtle thing in a long succession of disassociation from the party that selected him and campaigned for him. It’s disgusting.

That is right indy… one thing along with what O has planned to do for our 401k’s and siding with our enemy (U.N.) against our friend (Israel). This is the ONLY time in world history that there’s a country with nuclear weapons who have threatened to wipe us off the map. This is the only time we have enemies even within our own borders… and one of them is very probably our new president-to-be…. this is VERY serious and VERY dangerous. GWP will be the “good old days” as will looking back at even the depression, once O has his way….

KarenWI,
You can discuss, yell, curse all you want, but the fact of the matter is, Barack Obama is going to be the President of the United States. You might as well get used to that fact and deal with issues as they come… in reality, rather than projection. You’ll probably save yourself some needless wear and tear.

KARENWI:
What part of the constitution did Bush abuse?

Well we can start with having congress declare war.

Congress never declared war, they took a vote on a nonbinding resolution to give Bush the authorization to use force as a last resort. Technically, if you want to get real technical about it, he was supposed to get a declaration of war.

Number 2 dictating media: Under amendment one we have freedom of the press.

Puhlease. You want a conversation about the concerns of Obama over bush but now you want to begin an insistance that Bush did not violate the constitution.

You’re just baiting on here and I will end this conversation.

Murphy, are you saying that we violated the constitution in every previous war, when we would intercept morse code messages sent? Intercepted messengers? Listened to phone conversations? That’s what happened in every previous war. The constitution hasn’t changed. Did we violate it back in our previous wars? I don’t think so, and neither did any of our legal scholars nor previous presidents. Why, then, do they think that this war with terror is different and we can’t do the same thing using modern methods?

Dictating media? How did Bush dicate the media? O did, for sure, even before elected…. but how did Bush dictate the media? I’d have to go find that congressional document to see exactly how it was worded on that part. But the media? Honestly, they were all over him all the time! I’ll say one thing…. when the first Bush was president and the first Iraq war was held,every time I heard ON THE NEWS that the next day we were going to attack such and such a place I winced. Why? Because I knew the enemy heard the same show I did then and they had plenty of time to get out because the media clued them in one where we were going to attack the next day! During EVERY time of war in our history the media was NOT ALLOWED to say some things about the war including body count (to keep from giving encouragement to the enemy) and where the next strike was going to be just as a couple examples. Again, during time of war there are things that MUST be done…. so, what did Bush do re the media that every president in time of war had not done previously???

I’ll be sorting email if anyone needs me.

Will check in periodically to see if teh defense of indefensible presidentiable george dumbya bush is fini.

ciao

lisa
did ms suskind mention on her blog that she mentioned Puma but it was cut?

back for answer later

Here’s an example of media manipulation, Karen:

Posted 1/7/2005 12:17 AM Updated 1/7/2005 11:16 AM

By Greg Toppo, USA TODAY
Seeking to build support among black families for its education reform law, the Bush administration paid a prominent black pundit $240,000 to promote the law on his nationally syndicated television show and to urge other black journalists to do the same.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2005-01-06-williams-whitehouse_x.htm

antiish, unless you or your mother are illegal alients, or have some reason to think the goverment would think you are terrorists, they are NOT going to listen in on your conversation. The law was only for those who have given some reason to suspect they are talking with terrorsts… such as talking to people in enemy countries, when you are an illegal alien. I have absolutely no doubt the govt isn’t listening in on mine; do you have some reason to think they are listening in on yours? The law that was passed doesn’t give that leniency, nor are they doing that…. this is one of the misconceptions of some people. Actually it’s Pelosi etal who introduced these first statements like you are now using. I, personally, don’t believe much Pelosi, Reid, Frank, Kenney, etal say anymore- do you?

miss you all…can’t stay but thought about this for a PUMA PROWL on Tuesday…

What if we all flush our toilets at the same time and FLOOD WA with you know what…

if only…

love to pumas, POOP on the BS going on in WA, and go go action teams….

There’s media manipulation on both sides. That doesn’t make it right.
We saw what the Dems did last year to one of their own, Hillary. Sending talking points to the MSM and them running with it like fleas. Then yesterday, the MSM pushing Obama’s stimulus plan. He wants to make the 401K taxable and treat it like Social Security. The banks being taken over, now the auto industry. All under government control. Right under our noses.

Guantanomo… ok… this is a time of war again. Was there anything like Guantanomo during the World Wars? or Vietnam war? Or any other war? I know there was in the Civil war and earlier, and I’ll bet there was for ALL of our wars. Again, this is a TIME OF WAR….. when 9/11 happened it was a declaration of war on the U.S.

I didn’t follow your statement, Murphy, about the fourth amendement… I’m having a hard time understanding how you related this to abortion….

Forcing his Christian religion? How and where? There is no place where he says everone has to be Christian. Abortion is not related to just Christianity. There are many non Chistians who think that abortion is murder; and there are many Christians who don’t think it is.

antifish, I never heard of that before. That was news to me.

ohhh geez religion again, I need help researching myspace and facebook for sexist material if you all having nothing else to do

KarenWI 01.16.09 at 9:51 pm
Have you forgotten the Japanese internment camps? Not good then and not good now!

Karen,

Bush has done it already. It’s called rendition. Google it.

“if yarn’t wit us, yer agin us” …yabbadabbadoo bush

ring me when we get down to defending raygun

DancesWithPumas 01.16.09 at 8:52 pm [edit]

murphy 01.16.09 at 8:29 pm
i LOVE the idea of reparations for unpaid women’s work.
good one dwp –
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Well, as long as the topic is up, and aside from payment for stay at home women’s work, you should be earning a salary. You must work 80 hours a week keeping this blog, PumaPAC, and all it entails, going. Your salary should be included in any fundraising we have.

All agree? Say “AYE”

Any opposed? Sit on your hands.

MK,

LOL!!!

This time I for one am not going to sit back, again, and have my constitutional rights trampled on again.

You’re right Obama isn’t even in office yet, but already he’s got his agendas rolling and Pelosi and Reid are more than willing to run with them.

Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.

DancesWithPumas 01.16.09 at 10:05 pm

Hope you saw my “aye” it was a sincere and lonely aye at that, surely there are others here who are reading the blog and not just typing words without reading each others first.

And I know you know I read the blog Trish

This will be my final post on PumaPac. The way obots love to act is to draw attention away from the evils of Obama, and get you thinking about how much you hate GWB. Just let that anger and ahtred just seethe and boil over. Just as long as Obama isn’t being looked at very carefully. Yes, that’s what I’m doing. Accusing the PumaPac of acting like obots by sticking your heads up your a$$e$ (and, again, I don’t usually use language like that, but you really have me frustrated) and just contemplating your navels while attacking your favorite attackee; while letting the most dangerous man in U.S. history get away with more outrageous things than you can even imagine now. This is, unfortunately, the very thing that will bring America down to destruction…. just concentrating on GWB and ignoring the horrors coming up on the horizon in Obama. God save America from this fiend…. but with people who are more interested in attacking the past than in protecting our future, I don’t hold out a lot of hope. Now, in parting… I wish you well, and certainly do not hate any of you. I simply look at you with tears in my eyes and sobbing in my heart that you would be so doggone BLIND to what dangers Obama is for all we hold dear, our very country’s existence as we know it, and would rather look back to someone who is now HISTORY and boil over in anger over the PAST. God bless you… and God bless America.

Yeahhhhhhhhhh Murphy gets a salary woohoooo about damn time!

Ok Murphy start crying! then you can say “For the first time in my life I am proud to cry!”

big hugs atcha just cause I think you’re great!

webfoot 01.16.09 at 10:18 pm

And I know you know I read the blog Trish
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that you do Webbie, you even keep me updated if anyone posts new things on Acorn!

Trish #198- ditto what Trish said

ahhhhhhhhhhhhh now life is good. Im watching the 3-dvd set that I got for christmas commemorating our 1998 national championship! GO VOLS.

Now more political fights tonight! No more explaining how Bush violated the constitution or even that he will be investigated for war crimes by other nations if it doesn’t come from the new administration as has already been stated by the UK. No more thinking today about Obama being an illegal alien. No more tonight!

YEAH, im gonna watch this DVD and remember.

our coach got fired one day before the election this year for having the audacity to have two losing seasons in 16 years. 2008 sucked! 98 ROCKED even if Bill got impeached for lying under oath when the special prosecuter over extended his role in a republican coup to take out the president!

KarenWI 01.16.09 at 9:55 pm

Go read the United Nations Charter Harry Truman signd in 1946. It effectively placed out troops under the command of the Security council. Even though we haven’t always honored that, I’m sure O will, once Israel is roundly condemned.

Hey, how can we be in economic trouble if we can afford to BORROW 150 million for O’s inauguration? Bush and Clinton combined was only 25 mil. And we were horrified then over that.

How about making reparations to native americans first? Oh, that’s right~~we were vanquished, not enslaved. Except for tribes with casinos, no wonder the people hate white and blacks alike.

Like Murphy said, Obama is the POTUS starting tuesday, and we couldn’t stop it even if he appointed Casy Anthony head of the Justice Department.

You don’t get it Murphy. It’s not fear. Hell, I’m a senior citizen, my life’s almost over. I’m an American citizen and proud of it. I’m mad as hell and I am not going to take it anymore.

I’m trying to get grassroots support to stop Obama and the Dems from radically changing America.

We’re trying to make people aware of what’s going on, and we haven’t mentioned all the things they want to change.

Four years from now may be too late.

Karen,

The only thing I see is that you’re pissed off because I don’t share your adoration of George Bush. Sorry, Chick, it ain’t happening. He’s a piece of shit in my book. And I don’t appreciate you saying I’m acting like an Obot which is something I consider even lower than shit. Damn, why don’t you write a book of love poems to Georgie and stop trying to convert me?

K, I’m out of here. A beautiful young lady asked me to go dancing tonight and my head just ain’t THAT far up my ass to say ‘no’.

Damn, mountainsong, I’m glad your ass is big enough for all our heads.

antifish 01.16.09 at 10:36 pm No way!!! I just did an hour on the treadmill. That’s 300 calories that AREN’T going to bed with me, only to wake up on my ass and thighs. And it’ll be another 1000 calories by the time I’m done dancing. And then….n/m.

Karen -

If you think republicans respect the constitution, perhaps a google search of “signing statements” might be worth a couple of ten minutes.

Also IMHO, blind allegiance to one’s party (or religion or single cause etc) is just one of the “good intentions” that helped pave this road to hell.

65 yrs old and still 38-C,28,37, size 9 and can dance all night.

mountainsong,

Do you mind if I keep my head up your ass? I love to dance.

Hey image makers, how about some images honoring REAL male feminists. Let’s flood the blogs and comment strings with those.

turndownobama 01.16.09 at 10:52 pm [edit]
Hey image makers, how about some images honoring REAL male feminists. Let’s flood the blogs and comment strings with those.
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Would you mind naming some… I’m drawing a blank here

HELL YEAH AL GORE IN THIS VIDEO

GO GORE, GO VOLS 1998 NATIONAL CHAMPIONS

WHOO HOOO TENNESSEE IS AND WAS CLINTON COUNTRY

oh, and I forgot about my BUTTON idea…we could wear buttons that say I’m a PUMA, ask me why…to get people started talking about puma..and then you hand them the card

If you’ve been conscious the past eight years you understand today, that both parties are corrupt. They are basically one in the same. Using different ideological talking points to achieve the same ends.

How much can a person take… I feel for Karen … she wanted to be understood … instead she got beaten over the head. HOw can this movement keep on and grow when we devour our own??? This is not the first time I have seen this on this blog… that is why I lurk so much lately. I love this blog and what it stands for, but more and more I see deviations and anyone with a difference of opinion I see attacks instead of reasoning. I am so disappointed… no wonder I want to stick my head under a pillow and sleep for the next 4 years. We are supposed to be the ones who keep our heads and encourage others to join us.

Are we here to drive people away? Are we here to support one another? What is it? TELL ME!!!!!!

jenni!
why would you say a thing like that?
I was just adding your “Mr. Doodoohead” to our O Dictionary
http://pumapac.org/comic.html

Damn, Murphy! I should have placed a bet against your new salary! AssRust just can’t resist our charms. Must be our Puma pheromones.

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And to add to this epoch-making day, it appears that the PUMAs (well, about half a dozen of them) have voted to let Murphy pay herself a salary from their funds.

In other news, KarenWI has left in a flurry of fur because the rest of the PUMAs aren’t angsty enough for her (they’re all “obots” – I think it’s just as well jenniforhillary wasn’t around for this one), and antifish is under the impression that the Rumproasters won’t be stalking them any more. Ha!

Quite a thread, really.

Comment by yetanotherfreakingbrit on 01/16/09 at 10:47 PM

Jenni
will you be able to find some time to rest?

yes…when PUMA’s rule and women are on top and no woman is left behind and all girls are safe and secure and no animal suffers and…..

bmw, I too, don’t wish to see attacks… it seemed to me that Karen was just looking for a dialogue / debate, not a head-clubbing…we need to GROW our PUMApac, and Karen is or was a Republican, anyway I hope for once we can open serious dialogue here on rules of engagement on the Blog.

So what, PUMA’s are human, they get scared sometimes, or freaked out, I think that was Karen’s situation tonight. I don’t think telling anybody how wrong they are is a good way to grow, we need to use words like “I disagree,” “I don’t see it that way,” “tell me why you think that,” etc.

I hope Karen comes back, I hope goanderson comes back more often, I hope to see snowtiger on here more than just once in a blue moon, cause we need diversity on this Blog.

Everybody’s hopey-changey but I don’t feel the same

HAHAHA that’s funny

Im in such a good mood.

I love my new DVD and the weekend before the installation of a fraud is absolutely perfect because it was real, it was the 90s and i was 20. GOD, IT SEEMED LIKE ANYTHING WAS POSSIBLE.

ExDeminVA #134-Previous Thread

I appreciate your comments. I watched President Bush’s speech and I didn’t catch that reference. But, I agree with you that BO’s citizenship will become a national issue at some point in time.

I’ve been listening to Mark Levin on the radio. He states that Obama’s “reinvestment” program really means he’s redistributing our nation’s wealth. How can BO create 3 to 4 million jobs, if he’s depleting the resources of private companies to give away these massive government handouts?

Do you notice how the Dems have changed their environmental mantra from “global warming” to “climate change?” BO and the Dems want to drill for oil where there is no oil. Or else, they are placing roadblocks such as having the surrounding states approve the drilling with most revenues going to the government.

I agree with Andy Martin, BO and MO have set a terrible example by their extravagant lifestyles…the Hawaiian vacation, the $100+million dollar inauguration, and so on.

One more thing, Levin said that MO is set to work with military families while BO will probably cut our national defense budget.

Bottom Line – I cannot trust the President-elect since he cheated in the caucuses, bought off the super delegates, used Acorn to cheat in the GE, and accepted illegal donations on his website.

Murphy,

Could you please post the PO address for the Puma donation!

Great job Pumas- we care about our country!

And….. that is why I lurk so much… sometimes I get attacked the same way and I don’t like that very much. Karen is a REBUGH huh? We have her pegged and so we treat her differently??? Feel sorry for her when she is sick, but negate her comments??? How kind of you all…SHEESH

Do you notice how the Dems have changed their environmental mantra from “global warming” to “climate change?”

Global warming is a misnomer because it really does depend on where you are. Some places are expected to get warmer, some the same and some may possibly decline. We are talking about climate change, not global warming. it is the scientists who have been pushing this.

Global warming is just not a very scientific way to talk about this issue.

#229 DWP

answer can be found @183

oh man bmw60 bush is no more the second coming as obama is.

Have been lurking again, and wasn’t going to get into this one,BUT…

Look-up Wikipedia…Extraordinary rendition by United States
“The CIA was granted permission to use rendition in a presidental directive signed by BILL CLINTON in 1995 and the pratice has grown sharply since the Sept. 11 attacks.”
These were well established and used BEFORE BUSH!

Look-up Wikipedia…Able Danger…”Established by BILL CLINTON in 1999 for the purpose of DATA MINING”…legally listening in on phone calls. Covered up by Clinton for fear of public out cry, as we have now.

Have a family member with FIRST hand knowledge of both, and some things that would shock us ALL.
Don’t want to step on toes, but we were used by the Socialist part of the Dem. party to get use where we are today, NOT the DEM. party we ALL believed in and fought for. Why do you think it was moved to Chicago(first time in history), and is now called the NEW DEM PARTY? This was the leftover movement from the 70’s, and they used the war and George Soros to sell this country out.

It has been said… SHE is a REPUB so therefore everything she says is suspect… I know you all treat her comments differently because of that… sorry, but I get so tired of this going on here.. .I have learned so much from you guys and I see a lot of people leaving or lurking like myself because of this sniping and attacking lately. Sorry but disagreement is different from devouring… I personally saw devouring Murphy. Attack mode was definitely here tonight AGAIN!!!

#231 jenniforhillary

I was thinking about bumper stickers that said “I’m a PUMA…want to find out why go to http://www.pumapac.com” or something of the like…what do you think?

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Way back when I never heard of moveon.org and then I saw a bumper sticker that said REDEFEAT BUSH and I said I gotta get me one of those and I looked carefully at the bumper sticker & saw it had MoveOn’s website on it.

Just sayin’ I agree with you jenni

#263 taggles, that may all be true but if it were, there are ways to talk to someone and still get your point across without attacking, aren’t there?

Also if you don’t make it a practice to blog on PUMA all day long (I’m not saying you do), you’re less likely to become offended if someone has those kinds of irritating traits, aren’t you? And even if you’re irritated, like kat once said, “who cares? someone else probably likes that poster,” or if someone doesn’t like you, why worry about it? Other bloggers like talking to you, let it pass I guess is my point.

For the record, I don’t think Karen was attacked tonight…and some nights I have felt she was a tad and have stood up for her…

also, as far as male bashing goes, and I love plenty of men, WE COULD NEVER DO ENOUGH to SPEAK TO THE HORRORS of what women suffer. WE COULD NEVER SAY ENOUGH, SHOW ENOUGH, or DO ENOUGH to equal what has and is and will be done to women….

NEVER. Ever. ever.

Since I cannot get out of moderation I am going to go to sleep…I love all pumas and rumpers and wankers can go to washington (i.e. hell)…and stop playing with yourselves already…

bmw60 01.16.09 at 11:14 pm Did you conveniently forget that she accused EVERYNE of having their heads up their asses?

hillstheone 01.16.09 at 11:18 pm

Think I’d vote for Obama before giving up sex. “Use it or lose it” they say, and 3 times a day keeps the doctor (and aging) at bay.

I’m giggling…please, don’t tempt me.

hillstheone, please point out a personal attack I have ever made on Karen or anyone here on the board.

#281 mountainsong, LOL, I wouldn’t vote for Obama no matter what!

taggles, I’ve never seen you make a personal attack, but go back & read all of the posts…at least when I read through them all I – like bmw – came away with the impression Karen felt attacked & outnumbered.

hills,

Please read post #196. We were attacked and told we were acting like Obots with our heads up our asses.

Obots worship Obama, I don’t.

The rest of the post tries to project Karen’s fears of Obama onto us and ridicules us for being so blind.

I’m not afraid of Obama and I don’t share her predictions for the future.

Most importantly, I did not attack her.

Karen comes on here like a hurricane,and she appears to be trying to force her opinion on others. Then when they do not agree with her and express their opinion, she gets upset. Then she feels attacked, as many people who play the victim do. Many of us do not care for Bush as President and never will, even though we know he did accomplish some good. (i.e. no more terrorist attacks). We (most of us) do not like what we have heard of ohhewhothinksheisking so far, but we cannot give an opinion on what he does/will/will not accomplish. YET. And we all do know our freedoms are being eroded daily. Karen should calm down and realize we all have the same goals, but we will all find our own way to accomplish those goals and we will not be bullied into praising GWB. Whether Karen is republican or not, (and she takes care to tell us often that she is republican) does not matter. Keeping America safe and free is what matters. Getting upset over comparisons between GWB and pointyheadone is just useless.

antifish, I know what you’re saying, and I don’t blame people who felt offended by being called or compared to, obots. But do recall whenever a PUMA comes on here & their fur is all in a dander because they are frightened about something – like one night someone came on here all scared about people buying guns – bad things seem to happen. Fear seems to build upon fear, not a good environment for open dialogue or anything that will attract new members to want to post here…

I don’t really want to go on blogging forever about the situation that developed tonight w/Karen, but rather use it as a launching point to revisit exactly what the expectations are around how we treat people with other viewpoints on this Blog…

sorry for the bolding !

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Everyone has a different opinion. That’s what makes a blog a blog.

If one can’t handle it, they probably shouldn’t blog.

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Taggles, anti, I’m sure you’ll love this one,

Obama says, Treasury pick made innocent mistake..
http://pumasunleashed.wordpress.com/

“…WASHINGTON (Jan. 14) – President-elect Barack Obama called disclosures about Treasury choice Timothy Geithner’s tax problems an embarrassment Wednesday but said Geithner’s “innocent mistake” shouldn’t keep him from confirmation as the new administration’s top official in urgent efforts to revive the economy.”

DancesWithPumas 01.16.09 at 10:53 pm
turndownobama 01.16.09 at 10:52 pm [edit]
Hey image makers, how about some images honoring REAL male feminists. Let’s flood the blogs and comment strings with those.
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Would you mind naming some… I’m drawing a blank here
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Good question. The only ones I know enough about offhand are Bill Clinton and Al Gore.

Does anyone know Cuomo’s cred? He’s for Ledbetter Act, and he’s a Clinton cabinet person and supported Hillary.

Paterson will choose Hillary’s replacement after the 20th so there is still time to lobby for women: Maloney, Gillibrand, others. But some women are arguing for CK lest Cuomo (a man!) get it. So maybe we could reassure them that Cuomo would be better than CK, if it comes down to those two.

(Imo Paterson will not choose CK.)

turndownobama
Thank you.

Here’s one site, I know there were others – http://www.netrootsmass.net/hughs-bush-scandals-list/

clintondem, I’m older than you, believe me it gets better with age, lol…

hey antifish, was it really 10 degrees or something like that in Atlanta this week? I didn’t know it got that cold there! Hey I hope your dogs were wearing their little sweaters, lol..!!

Yeah it was 0, as in zero, this morning in Knoxville

It will be seven here tonight.

Okay well thank you for the defense.

That whole thing was very very very bad and i was deeply offended

Well I missed you, clintondem, also, weren’t you the one who said you collect Clinton memorabilia?

If so, do you have a big collection, & what kind of stuff do you have?

Oh yes, hills. It’s been miserably cold here. Sixteen degrees this morning. My little babies have been wearing their sweaters for a week now.

They got new sweaters and coats for Christmas.

I don’t want any fights with anyone tonight because I watched the 3 hour press conference today on obamacrimes and I have been distressed all day and there is NOTHING that I can do about it.

Im sitting here kind of just reading along and watching the 1998 National Championship commemoration of the VOLS national championship.

Im really enjoying it.

#305, it’s sad if we can’t think of real male feminists, I need to give that some thought this weekend.

#322, LOL, Taggles!!

Here’s a fun little tidbit that was just emailed to me:

WASHINGTON – Outgoing Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean said Friday he would have liked to work in the Obama administration, but instead is embarking on a life in the private sector after nearly 30 years in politics.

Dean told The Associated Press in an interview that he is weighing where next to take a career that has moved rapidly from family doctor to Vermont governor to presidential candidate to national party boss. This Wednesday, he ends a term as chairman in which Democrats recaptured the White House, seized majorities in Congress and picked up governorships.

Some of his supporters have been upset that after all he’s done for Democrats, President-elect Barack Obama did not pick him for an administration job. When asked how he felt, Dean said he would “punt on that one.”

“Obviously, it would have been great,” Dean said in a telephone interview from his home in Burlington, Vt. “But it’s not happening and the president has the right to name his own Cabinet, so I’m not going to work in the government it looks like.”

Dean said he plans to make some money delivering speeches and share ideas about campaigns and technology with center-left political parties around the world. He said politicians in other countries are very interested in the technology that he used so successfully to raise money and organize his 2004 primary campaign and that Obama took to incredible new levels for his bid.

Dean also improved technology at the Democratic National Committee, building a database that tracks voters across the country. That database is now available to Democrats running for all levels of government, and each one that uses it adds more information from the voters they contact, which helps future candidates. Oddly, Dean said, the long divisive Democratic primary between Obama and Hillary Rodham Clinton helped the party by building the database since both were using it.

Dean said the other accomplishment he’s most proud of is putting party staff in every state, even Republican strongholds. Other Washington insiders, such as Obama’s White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel, ridiculed the idea at first as a waste of resources. It ended up being credited by many observers as helping to contribute to Obama’s victory over Republican John McCain in traditionally red states.

Dean said Obama was “very complimentary and kind about the 50-state strategy” when the two talked in Chicago’s Grant Park after his Election Night victory speech. Others who overheard the exchange say Obama told Dean that he couldn’t have won without him.

The party’s image has also improved during Dean’s four years as chairman. In an ABC News-Washington Post poll conducted in October 2008, 56 percent said they thought the Democrats would do a better job of coping with the problems the nation faces over the next few years, compared with just 23 percent for the Republicans. In June 2005, the Democrats had a much smaller advantage over the Republicans, 46 percent to 41 percent. And in October 2002, the Republicans held the edge, 51 percent to 39 percent for the Democrats.

Dean says a lot of the credit for Democratic electoral gains last year should go to “an extraordinarily exceptional candidate for president.” He had nothing but praise for Obama and the president-elect’s choice to run the party, Virginia Gov. Tim Kaine.

Dean plans to meet this weekend with Kaine, then attend Obama’s inauguration on Tuesday. The next day at a meeting of party members, he will turn over the gavel to the Virginia governor, whom he said was one of his top choices for the job because he’s a Washington outsider.

“Tim gets that if you don’t feed the base, and get your voters identified that you can’t sustain the party,” Dean said. “And it is true that in the past, it’s been the norm for Democratic presidents to come in and take over the DNC and run it for their own uses and I think there’s a good chance that won’t happen this time.

“We put $5 million into Kaine’s campaign, so I think Kaine is acutely sensitive,” Dean said. “And so I think Tim has a particular appreciation of what a strong, diversified DNC can do.”

The party had a $15 million debt from November’s election, but Obama has helped pay that down and party officials say it should be completely paid off in the first quarter of 2009.

Dean also said he’s optimistic about the outlook for Democrats in the 2010 midterm elections, even with the tough economic times.

“The reason I’m optimistic is because the country has no place to go but up. I think 2009 will be rocky, and then we’ll start to see things get better in 2010,” Dean said. He said by then, Obama should have closed the detention facility at Guantanamo Bay that has been the source of international criticism, improved health care and be on the way out of Iraq. “If that happens, I think we can still improve our situation, even though it’s tremendous right now.”

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*off topic..posted in acorn forum..*
http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/metro/gwinnett/stories/2008/10/23/absentee_ballot_flaw.html?cxntlid=homepage_tab_newstab

Thursday, October 23, 2008

Gwinnett County elections officials will have to hand-copy votes from at least 10,000 absentee ballots onto new ballots that can be read by a machine.
The original ballots, designed to be filled out by hand, are flawed because of a printing error. The circle beside the candidate’s name is too thick and somewhat misshapen, and consequently an optical scanning machine won’t be able to read the votes on Election Day.

Obama’s campaign workers … keep on working
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Norcross candidate, who lost by 1, wants recount
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The original ballots, designed to be filled out by hand, are flawed because of a printing error. The circle beside the candidate’s name is too thick and somewhat misshapen, and consequently an optical scanning machine won’t be able to read the votes on Election Day.

im having a delightful conversation with myself upstairs. Come join