Low Tech for the Dialer-Uppers

by murphy on January 7, 2009

for Roofingbird. An Overnight Happy Poem, which takes absolutely NO time to load, but a very long time to understand.

Consolation

All are not taken; there are left behind
Living Belovèds, tender looks to bring
And make the daylight still a happy thing,
And tender voices, to make soft the wind:
But if it were not so—if I could find
No love in all this world for comforting,
Nor any path but hollowly did ring
Where ‘dust to dust’ the love from life disjoin’d;
And if, before those sepulchres unmoving
I stood alone (as some forsaken lamb
Goes bleating up the moors in weary dearth)
Crying ‘Where are ye, O my loved and loving?’—
I know a voice would sound, ‘Daughter, I AM.
Can I suffice for Heaven and not for earth?’

Elizabeth Barrett Browning

{ 164 comments… read them below or add one }

1 Casper Cat 01.07.09 at 9:55 pm: Murphy, Great Post… Please see the YouTube previous post #142…It is soooooooooooooooooDisgusting…I just cannot imagine how people can watch this trash….
2 Casper Cat 01.07.09 at 9:59 pm: By the way, I do have another word to replace “Pigs” ‘Parasites’…They do nothing more than feed off another and contaminate everything they come in contact with….
3 taggles1 01.07.09 at 10:00 pm: what’s wrong with pigs.

do that many people have pigs as pets?
4 TrishfromCanada 01.07.09 at 10:03 pm: I like the pig award, of course you could always call it “the arse award”, but I think pig award speaks volumes
5 TrishfromCanada 01.07.09 at 10:04 pm: ohhh my favourite line from “Babe” is “that’ll do pig, that’ll do” i say that all the time!
6 DancesWithPumas 01.07.09 at 10:04 pm: I prefer pigs … instant recognition of the implication.
also
Great graphic by Freedom Fairy here:
http://uppitywoman08.wordpress.com/
7 taggles1 01.07.09 at 10:05 pm: That is hilarious dwp!

great pic.
8 TrishfromCanada 01.07.09 at 10:07 pm: I voted!
9 invalidresponse 01.07.09 at 10:09 pm: hi pumas,
just fired up the laptop to vote and had to swing by here to say hi!!

now I have to go back to paperwork..
10 DancesWithPumas 01.07.09 at 10:13 pm: Uppity and The Confluence are still in the lead.
Don’t forget to vote.
11 taggles1 01.07.09 at 10:16 pm: hi invalidR!!!!
12 DancesWithPumas 01.07.09 at 10:18 pm: whoa… I thought the quote of the day was still cinie’s, but it’s from Nelson Mandela (via Heidi Li):
“I cannot pinpoint a moment when I became politicized, when I knew I would spend my life in the liberation struggle. … I had no epiphany, no singular revelation, no moment of truth, but a steady accumulation of a thousand slights, a thousand indignities, a thousand unremembered movements, produced in me an anger, a rebelliousness, a desire to fight the system that imprisoned our people. There was no particular day on which I said, From henceforth I will devote myself to the liberation of my people; instead I found myself doing so, and could not do otherwise.” A Long Walk To Freedom, p. 95.
– Nelson Mandela, “A Long Walk to Freedom,” p. 95, via heidi li
13 DancesWithPumas 01.07.09 at 10:19 pm: “…instead I found myself doing so, and could not do otherwise.”
14 Headclunker 01.07.09 at 10:21 pm: Murphy – You have 2 FECK email
15 PUMAbear 01.07.09 at 10:23 pm: Murphy, you have mail!
16 KarenWI 01.07.09 at 10:24 pm: OK, I’ve been gone most of the day…. re Chris Matthew saying he isn’t going to run. Yeah, let’s wait and see. Did you know there’s a video of Obama saying HE wasn’t going to run for POTUS??? This is something that’s a pretty common ploy to say they aren’t running, and then jumping in later… LOL.
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/02/25/obama-2004-nah-i-cant-run-for-president-in-2008/
17 roofingbird 01.07.09 at 10:25 pm: Pshaw, AnnaBelle, You’ve made me cry. See, happy tears!
18 Headclunker 01.07.09 at 10:25 pm: “…instead I found myself doing so, and could not do otherwise.”
19 mountainsong 01.07.09 at 10:27 pm: Wow! This thread starts off powerfully, I’ve always appreciated Elizabeth Barett Browning, but tonight is the first time I can think of that her words made me cry.
You hit hard, Murphy.
And the quote Dances posted.

I voted on both computers

Casper Cat 01.07.09 at 9:55 pm
If it’s THAT disgusting, why watch it?

Cartoon:
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/215/index.html

Is that right? PhillyPuma is a Obot male wanting to be a woman? Woooeeeeee, that’s harsh. LOL
20 KarenWI 01.07.09 at 10:28 pm: Re Nelson Mandela quote where he said he didn’t plan on doing it, but ” “…instead I found myself doing so, and could not do otherwise.”… that’s probably why some of us- like myself- end up coming back here even when sometimes there are such strong posts showing I’m not wanted. “I can not do otherwise” for some crazy reason. Nuts? Maybe….. Masochist?… no.
21 mountainsong 01.07.09 at 10:29 pm: KarenWI 01.07.09 at 10:24 pm Kinda like when George Bush said he’s not going to attack Iraq????
22 DancesWithPumas 01.07.09 at 10:31 pm: Great graphic by Freedom Fairy here:
http://uppitywoman08.wordpress.com/
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taggles1 01.07.09 at 10:05 pm [edit]
That is hilarious dwp! great pic.
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Change-Hope the obots appreciate it.
23 Casper Cat 01.07.09 at 10:32 pm: Hey Mountainsong..It’s part of my job here in the SOS Forum Sphere………. It just makes me sick to think Women by the Million’s continue on like nothing is going on…And, yet when something happends to them…Boy, they wake up…But, only for the moment and then they go back to what they are used to…Very Sad… So, let CHANGE that…Afterall, you are on the SOS Team….
24 Nijma 01.07.09 at 10:32 pm: That poem made me cry. And I never cry.
25 Rancho 01.07.09 at 10:32 pm: mountainsong

What letter are you working on, that you mentioned on the “private” era site?
Can you post your response on that site?
26 KarenWI 01.07.09 at 10:33 pm: I don’t know about Phillypuma male, female, or what he/she wants… BUT… it does seem really strange to me when someone gets all their information from Al Franken, believes him totally, and can’t see the really odd things going on in this MN recount. I’m hearing all over on tv about more ballots than voters. Don’t remember if it was on O’Reilly or Hannity, but they were saying specific numbers in one city or something… saying there were 177 (if I remember right) more votes there (xpecific number!) than voters. How can anybody look at this and not see FRAUD??? This smells of what happened during the Dem Primaries, when there were more votes than voters in some areas. How long can this sort of thing go on and not get “caught” and stopped? It has ACORN’s fingerprints all over it….. Oh, by the way, remember how in the initial “bailout”- the first one that was passed- they at first wanted a huge percentage of it to go to ACORN- and that was stopped (thank God) by the repubs in the congress?? ACORN should be destroyed… but, now of course, they are just going to be rewarded more and more now that O is “selected” and Pelosi and Reid (among some others) are in “power”…. (sigh)….
27 DancesWithPumas 01.07.09 at 10:34 pm: mountainsong 01.07.09 at 10:27 pm [edit]
And the quote Dances posted.
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Murphy posted the Mandela quote as the ‘quote of the day’ (left hand column (sidebar), scroll up)) … I was just repeating it to be sure everyone would read it. Too good to miss.
28 KarenWI 01.07.09 at 10:35 pm: yup mountainsong…. seems like no matter what party we’re talking about, they all like to say one thing publicly and do another privately. That reminds me a bit of a cartoon I saw once where it gave a definition of “foot” as a “politician’s pacifier”….
29 mountainsong 01.07.09 at 10:36 pm: Alice Paul rewrote the ERA in 1943 to what is now called the “Alice Paul Amendment,” reflecting the 15th and the 19th Amendments: “Equality of rights under the law shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any state on account of sex.” But the labor movement was still committed to protective workplace laws, and social conservatives considered equal rights for women a threat to the existing power structure.
30 KarenWI 01.07.09 at 10:37 pm: Everyone in congress- whether Repub or Dem- who has gotten large contributions from ACORN, or paid large amounts TO ACORN… should be picked up by the scruff of their necks and kicked out onto the street….
31 mountainsong 01.07.09 at 10:37 pm: 27
DancesWithPumas 01.07.09 at 10:34 pm
I saw that after I posted, when I went up to read the poem again.
32 mountainsong 01.07.09 at 10:39 pm: The “odd things going on in MN” are due to the fact we are now living under a total Dictatorship and not everyone has awakened to that fact….YET!
33 KarenWI 01.07.09 at 10:41 pm: Mountainsong, some of these “odd things going on in MN” sound an awful lot like what happened in the Dem Primary when O stole the nomination from Hillary. So… it was actually going on then already, BEFORE the Dictator was even “selected”! LOL…
34 DancesWithPumas 01.07.09 at 10:42 pm: “it does seem really strange to me when someone gets all their information from Al Franken,…”
No one ever said that on this blog. Stop twisting.
35 mountainsong 01.07.09 at 10:43 pm: http://www.equalrightsamendment.org/era.htm

In the 1960s, over a century after the fight to end slavery fostered the first wave of the women’s rights movement, the civil rights battles of the time provided an impetus for the second wave. Women organized to demand their birthright as citizens and persons, and the Equal Rights Amendment rather than the right to vote became the central symbol of the struggle.

Finally, organized labor and an increasingly large number of mainstream groups joined the call for the ERA, and politicians reacted to the power of organized women’s voices in a way they had not done since the battle for the vote.

The Equal Rights Amendment passed the U.S. Senate and then the House of Representatives, and on March 22, 1972, the proposed 27th Amendment to the Constitution was sent to the states for ratification. But as it had done for every amendment since the 18th (Prohibition), with the exception of the 19th Amendment, Congress placed a seven-year deadline on the ratification process. This time limit was placed not in the words of the ERA itself, but in the proposing clause.

Like the 19th Amendment before it, the ERA barreled out of Congress, getting 22 of the necessary 38 state ratifications in the first year. But the pace slowed as opposition began to organize – only eight ratifications in 1973, three in 1974, one in 1975, and none in 1976.

Arguments by ERA opponents such as Phyllis Schlafly, right-wing leader of the Eagle Forum/STOP ERA, played on the same fears that had generated female opposition to woman suffrage. Anti-ERA organizers claimed that the ERA would deny woman’s right to be supported by her husband, privacy rights would be overturned, women would be sent into combat, and abortion rights and homosexual marriages would be upheld. Opponents surfaced from other traditional sectors as well. States’-rights advocates said the ERA was a federal power grab, and business interests such as the insurance industry opposed a measure they believed would cost them money. Opposition to the ERA was also organized by fundamentalist religious groups.

Pro-ERA advocacy was led by the National Organization for Women (NOW) and ERAmerica, a coalition of nearly 80 other mainstream organizations. However, in 1977, Indiana became the 35th and so far the last state to ratify the ERA. That year also marked the death of Alice Paul, who, like Elizabeth Cady Stanton and Susan B. Anthony before her, never saw the Constitution amended to include the equality of rights she had worked for all her life.
36 DancesWithPumas 01.07.09 at 10:45 pm: Anyone here remember the abbott and costello routine “niagara falls” (slowly I turned, etc.)?
I was just reminded of it (for some unknown reason).
37 mountainsong 01.07.09 at 10:48 pm: #35~~Now that sucks, but it’s what we are up against.
38 mountainsong 01.07.09 at 10:49 pm: #35~~Now that sucks, but it’s what we are up against…..Still.
39 Casper Cat 01.07.09 at 10:49 pm: Sorry, DWP….Nope!!! I don’t recall that… My generation was hooked on “I Love Lucy” Now, were talking..
40 mountainsong 01.07.09 at 10:50 pm: lol
41 hillstheone 01.07.09 at 10:51 pm: Hi mountainsong,
I’m glad you liked the song I posted last night! The title of the new KEANE CD is “Hopes & Fears” (kinda like how I feel about our political system)..!
42 Casper Cat 01.07.09 at 10:52 pm: DWP #36 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMBbkGmt9mk Hope you enjoy!!!!!!!
43 hillstheone 01.07.09 at 10:52 pm: Bon Jovi to help Hillary Clinton fight campaign debt
http://www.nme.com/news/bon-jovi/41887

Good Lou Dobbs link w/links to stories about ACORN, voter fraud here:
http://loudobbs.tv.cnn.com/category/democracy-at-risk/

And last but not least, examples of women in good leadership positions here:
http://www.childrenandnature.org/leadership/

“Yes Virginia, there is a correlation between nature, exercise, and children who are NOT fat!”
44 mountainsong 01.07.09 at 10:53 pm: Who’s Lucy? In Charlie Brown?
45 mountainsong 01.07.09 at 10:56 pm: Hiya, hillstheone Yeya, thanks.

I was just kidding about Lucy. I doubt I missed a single episode of Lucy and Ricky.
46 KarenWI 01.07.09 at 10:56 pm: hillstheone… #43… back before the days of video games, when kids went outside and played games outside most of the day (my generation, for example, well over 50 years ago) kids were not fat. Now, of course, that can’t be said about us after we hit middle age- at least not me, LOL. When I was younger I could eat like a horse and never put on weight. Back in college they had two entrees… I would take BOTH, along with the soup of the day and a dessert…. and was thin. Then, after college, something happened. All of a sudden all I’d have to do is smell dessert and put on another 3 pounds. This was in spite of the fact that at that time I was teaching in the public school, standing all day, and very active in front of the classes (as choir director and band director I was jumping around and waving my arms a lot, LOL)
47 mountainsong 01.07.09 at 11:00 pm: The newest ad on TV for “America’s Next To Model:Obsession!” is a good example of sesist sterotyping.
48 Casper Cat 01.07.09 at 11:01 pm: I know Mountainsong… How are you doing?? We could team up on the SOS if you would like.. So, we are not duplicating… Just let me know… thanks…
49 jallen007 01.07.09 at 11:03 pm: I had to change my user name due to the fact jallen0347 is being used by myself via my old e-mail address….My one question is do you think those who do not want Burris to take office may be some what hypocritical….Burris is Black, Obama is 1/2 Black….Burris was selected, Obama was selected. Both have controversey surrounding their selection but the only difference between the two is that Buris is more experienced….
50 Casper Cat 01.07.09 at 11:04 pm: For Mountainsong…. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tw0D-Rv
51 DancesWithPumas 01.07.09 at 11:05 pm: Casper Cat 01.07.09 at 10:49 pm [edit]
Sorry, DWP….Nope!!! I don’t recall that… My generation was hooked on “I Love Lucy” Now, were talking..
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Thanks. Really poor imitation, altho the guy playing Lou Costello is the best of the three…
“Trigger words” is the reason that skit came to mind.
52 mountainsong 01.07.09 at 11:06 pm: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,477450,00.html
53 KarenWI 01.07.09 at 11:07 pm: Abbott and Costello’s “who’s on first” is CLASSIC! ..and nobody, even today, can “do” it in quite the same way to get as many laughs as they did! I’ve seen a lot of their movies; but I think their “who’s on first” routine as the movies all beat!
54 mountainsong 01.07.09 at 11:09 pm: Casper Cat 01.07.09 at 11:01 pm Well, you could email me. I have thought I was stretching myself too thin with all my outside-of-puma stuff so I was just going to concentrate on the ERA Team effort.
55 KarenWI 01.07.09 at 11:09 pm: For those who may have never seen “Who’s on First”… you HAVE to see it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sShMA85pv8M
56 mountainsong 01.07.09 at 11:10 pm: Casper Cat 01.07.09 at 11:04 pm

For Mountainsong…. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tw0D-Rv

YouTube says the site contains a malformed URL
57 TrishfromCanada 01.07.09 at 11:17 pm: Murphy,

You have an email from the Acorn Team whenever you have a moment to check
58 Casper Cat 01.07.09 at 11:17 pm: Let’s try again..http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tw0D-Rv_
59 mountainsong 01.07.09 at 11:18 pm: I hope we have time to effect a positive change….but I’m afraid the poop is about to hit the fan.

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1231167303344&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull
60 mountainsong 01.07.09 at 11:20 pm: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tw0D-Rv_
61 Casper Cat 01.07.09 at 11:20 pm: Crap I hate that when that happens… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tw0D-Rv_vro Mountainsong try again… Only if it works..Who Knows.. and, no I do not want to strap you if you are already working on ERA Very Important…Keep up the great work.. I will focus on my Puma Job… SOS..
62 mountainsong 01.07.09 at 11:25 pm: Between Deflation, economic collapse, and the possibility of an even greater war, I’m not feeling real positive about outcomes.
63 mountainsong 01.07.09 at 11:30 pm: Stupid movie made me tear up~~~ lol
Taising Helen, w/Kate Hudson.
64 SouthernGAL68 01.07.09 at 11:34 pm: Dances … Did you see my message last night? I just missed you … two late work nights!
65 Casper Cat 01.07.09 at 11:35 pm: Mountainsong.. don’t get depressed… This one is for YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!…. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Pu0Fn1oRN4 Listen to the words… Things will work out… America has had a long history/herstory of problems…But, keep the faith (remember, the faith of a mustard seed can move a mountain) not sure, where I heard that from….. But, it was a long time ago… “WE WILL GET THROUGH THIS”
66 Heidi Li 01.07.09 at 11:37 pm: I apologize for the infrequency of my visits over here of late. I’m a bit swamped, but I had to take the time to express tremendous appreciation for the PUMAs in fighting off the idjits who have been assaulting The Confluence.

I did manage to do one of the Prowls today, and I am reading over here daily. I think, by the way, that some of the insane conduct over the weblog awards is due to the fact that a) the kool-aid drinkers are realizing that P.E. Obama is not who they duped themselves or allowed themselves to be duped into believing he is and so b) they are lashing out at PUMAs and their blogs because c) that is easier than facing up to their own poor judgment.
67 mountainsong 01.07.09 at 11:38 pm: OMG!!! This is really BAD!!!

11 gay bars get letters threatening ricin attacks

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2008597989_ricinthreat07m.html
68 Heidi Li 01.07.09 at 11:39 pm: Quick update: for those who donated to 51 Percent specifically for purpose of generating press release that, among other things, pointed out the misogyny of Jon Favreau, we have gotten just some nibbles from the press about doing follow-up.
69 SouthernGAL68 01.07.09 at 11:43 pm: Oh’ I just saw the video … who made that? Casper or Mountain, do yall know?
70 mountainsong 01.07.09 at 11:44 pm: I’ve been o 4 of those places and 3 of them are womens’ bars.
71 mountainsong 01.07.09 at 11:46 pm: Not me, Hiya, Southern
72 Rancho 01.07.09 at 11:46 pm: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Pu0Fn1oRN4

Hey CasperCat . . .! It’s YOUR video again! I LOVE IT1
73 DancesWithPumas 01.07.09 at 11:47 pm: Heidi LI #67
Excellent!!
Thank you for all the effort you’re putting into 51%!!
74 SouthernGAL68 01.07.09 at 11:49 pm: Hello Mountain … how are you? I hope well! I have been gone because my computer crashed and it took almost one month to fix! I have missed yall!
75 DancesWithPumas 01.07.09 at 11:50 pm: SouthernGAL68 01.07.09 at 11:34 pm [edit]
Dances … Did you see my message last night? I just missed you … two late work nights!
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Sorry. I missed it.
76 SouthernGAL68 01.07.09 at 11:51 pm: DANCES … Oh, good you are still here! I missed you last night, but did you get my post to you? I have NOT set-up my personal e-mail account yet!
77 DancesWithPumas 01.07.09 at 11:54 pm: SouthernGandhi…
use this name when you do.
78 mountainsong 01.07.09 at 11:54 pm: Southern, my computer crashed about the same time yours did. Something just ate a big bite out of my Windows XP. I got it repaired but it seems slower now.

Casper, I’m not depressed. Just not overly optimistic about the near future. Been watching all this develope for 30 years now.
lol, I got that song in my faves.
79 mountainsong 01.07.09 at 11:58 pm: Geez, it hasn’t stopped raining for a minute in the last day and a half.
Streets are beginning to flood so, with the heavy snowpack in the mountains, all the rivers are gonna be flooding too.
80 mountainsong 01.08.09 at 12:02 am: Doesn’t 5 living presidents ( 4 and an about to be, maybe) all together at the same time and place only 2 weeks out from an inauguration, seem conspicuous, maybe even suspicious?
81 SouthernGAL68 01.08.09 at 12:03 am: DANCES

Damn … I have looked for 10 minutes for that post and I can NOT find it! Give me one sec. and I will re-type it.

SouthernGANDHI
82 SouthernGAL68 01.08.09 at 12:04 am: YEP! That is what I have Mountain!
83 SouthernGAL68 01.08.09 at 12:07 am: DANCES ……….

AHA! Found it! It is under “Overnight Happy Song” – POST #10
84 SouthernGAL68 01.08.09 at 12:09 am: Dances … I will change my personal address to Southern Gandhi – I even praciced typing it under my post! LOL
85 DancesWithPumas 01.08.09 at 12:15 am: SouthernGAL68 01.08.09 at 12:09 am [edit]
Dances … I will change my personal address to Southern Gandhi – I even praciced typing it under my post! LOL
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Then let me be the first lower LEFT quadrant welcome you to our happy little abode. You’re in the correct place now, and I feel soooooo much better!!!
86 mountainsong 01.08.09 at 12:19 am: Melting snow causes heavy flooding in Wash. state

Yep, yep…… wicked.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090108/ap_on_re_us/winter_weather
87 SouthernGAL68 01.08.09 at 12:24 am: LOL … My goodness, I am now one of those “left quadrants”! Funny that you said “our happy little abode”, because I feel like I am now “back home”! You don’t realize how much you get used to talking with the same people everyday.

Did you see that post? Any ideas? Lke I said, when you miss a month … you feel so “out of touch”!
88 mountainsong 01.08.09 at 12:24 am: We are getting our butt kicked in Washington…again. One whole town is expected to go under!!! It does this most every year, but not as bad. This year we have humungous snowpack in the mountains.
89 SouthernGAL68 01.08.09 at 12:26 am: Mountain … The virus I received, got into the part of my computer that allows the computer to “boot up”! So, mine would not turn on … Would yours? I had to send off for “recovery disks” so that they could fix it. It was a royal pain in the a**
90 mountainsong 01.08.09 at 12:29 am: The town of Marlemount mentioned in the article is where I built my cabin 15 years ago.
91 SouthernGAL68 01.08.09 at 12:30 am: Question $ yall … I wanted to vomit when I heard this, but have yall heard the remix of the old R&B song … “A Change is coming”? The song is titled … “A change is here” and they actually USED OBAMA’S name through-out the song. GAG!
92 mountainsong 01.08.09 at 12:32 am: Was going to say that Marblemout got 6 inches of rain, just this evening alone. That’s ALOT of water coming down the creeks and rivers. I’ve seen that kind of water push boulders downstream that are 6-8 ft in diameter. And old growth fir and cedar and hemlock all bob like corks in the river smashing everything it their way.
93 DancesWithPumas 01.08.09 at 12:33 am: SoGandhi
There are several teams listed on the left hand sidebar, scroll up, you could look at their public comments to get the gist of what they are working on… I believe SOS and ERA could use the most help. The teams listed also have private forums wher ethey discuss strategies, etc., but, you can;t get into those unless you are a team member.

Theres’ also a listing at:
http://pumapac.org/teams.html
94 mountainsong 01.08.09 at 12:34 am: SouthernGAL68 01.08.09 at 12:30 am Thanks for the warning. One day I stumbled on a YouTube vid of “The Obama Shuffle”. It’s kind of a neat ‘hustle’ kinda dance that just needs a different name. lol
95 mountainsong 01.08.09 at 12:38 am: The Obama shuffle

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Y_W5hvJsb4&feature=related

Can you imagine this in the White House?
96 SouthernGAL68 01.08.09 at 12:39 am: Dances … Thank you! I will take a good look through them tonight and choose from one of the two. I have had to work late two nights in a row, so I will let you know something by the weekend or sooner. I will need my e-mail, so I will get Audra to set it up for me in the next day or so.

You are an hour ahead of me, so I know that it is late in NY – thanks for answering my post.
97 SouthernGAL68 01.08.09 at 12:46 am: Mountain … I can NOT imagine Obama period! Between all of the Obama songs and the c. coins … I want to jump off of a tall building … LOL

Yea … be very careful that you “VIRUS PROTECTION” has NOT expired and/or you have enough protection. It was $ 400.00 plus to get it fixed. Heck, I should have just bought another computer.
98 SouthernGAL68 01.08.09 at 12:47 am: Goodnight all .. talk to yall soon! Past my bedtime
99 DancesWithPumas 01.08.09 at 12:49 am: SouthernGAL68
You are an hour ahead of me, so I know that it is late in NY – thanks for answering my post.
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I’m in Europe, so it is later than you think!
100 mountainsong 01.08.09 at 1:00 am: I’m still waiting for santa to bring me a dual-core processor with a 2 gig harddrive.
101 TrishfromCanada 01.08.09 at 1:00 am: Why people feel a need to post Obama shit here is beyond me, if anyone wants to see it they can google it
102 Nijma 01.08.09 at 1:10 am: Mountainsong, the paper you cited, the Jerusalem Post, used to be the official mouthpiece of the Israeli government. The last I heard it had been sold to arch conservative Rupert Murdoch. I’m not saying don’t read it, just be aware of their possible bias when you do. In the Middle East to have to read more than one source to understand anything. Unfortunately I can’t recommend any good Palestinian source. They are pathetic at defending their own interests. Maybe the Jordan Times, which is owned by the Jordanian Government through their social security administration. That guy they talk about, Hizbullah leader Hassan Nasrallah, is a real piece of work, I heard an interview with him once on NPR that was blood curdling.

If your computer runs slow, did you do all the maintenance stuff like the quick disk clean, the free virus programs like Norton and bitdefender, the antispyware programs like spybot search and destroy and ad-aware? Look in the computer geek section here for a bunch of free tools to keep your system clean. Then you might think about doing a defrag if you haven’t done one recently, but they can be long.

I just had a system crash tonight for the first time ever. Yeah, I was on the bot sites, probably coincidence, right?
103 mountainsong 01.08.09 at 1:14 am: I did disc clea earlier this evening and thought I’d defrag when I go to bed.

TrishfromCanada 01.08.09 at 1:00 am Maybe because it’s an anti- Obama site. Are you in a space tonight?
104 mountainsong 01.08.09 at 1:17 am: Way back in the primaries, there were warnings online about going to Obot sites as they could be infected. Some of them are intelligent enought techies to actually perfor hit-and-run drive-by infections of websites. So I just try to keep to a few reliable places. I don’t even do MySpace or Facebook.
105 mountainsong 01.08.09 at 1:18 am: Nijma 01.08.09 at 1:10 am ~~~I don’t heven have a clue what a truly unbiased site would even be.
106 Nijma 01.08.09 at 1:20 am: The Obama Shuffle huh, that’s what Blagojevich is doing right now. Ha, ha. The tune sounds like “Wade in the Water” a baptismal sort of spiritual. They used to do line dances like that at union parties when I was in a different union. They better not do that one on company time, but it looks a little too complex to do at a party, so maybe the world will be spared.
107 Nijma 01.08.09 at 1:20 am: my first defrag on windows98 took 8 hours.
108 mountainsong 01.08.09 at 1:22 am: Kewl, I don’t have to defrag right now.
109 mountainsong 01.08.09 at 1:25 am: Gee whiz~~~8 hours.
No way could I do that dance~~~but I thought the kid in the pink shirt has cute moves.
110 mountainsong 01.08.09 at 1:27 am: Would prolly run faster if I didn’t have so many windows I want to keep open.
lol I’m getting to where I have so much stuff on my favorites I need a data base manager and index.
111 Nijma 01.08.09 at 1:28 am: mountainsong, I don’t know of “a truly unbiased site”, everyone has an ax to grind and certain “facts” they put out front and others they don’t mention. When you read them all it just sounds like a bunch of kids yelling “he hit me” “no, he hit me first” down through the generations. The first person who hit the first other person isn’t even alive anymore, but their descendants just keep hitting each other. A lot of my students were Palestinain, and they had stories about their homes they lost. Back in the 30’s when there was a war, they all locked their doors, ran away and came back when the fighting was over. But in ‘48 and ‘67 and they couldn’t go back. They still have the keys though, and when the old people die they ask for the key and they die with the key in their hand.

George Bush missed an opportunity to recognize the Palestinian State when he first became president. It would have changed everything.
112 mountainsong 01.08.09 at 1:31 am: Counting raindrops is the most soothing and relaxing exercise……
113 Nijma 01.08.09 at 1:32 am: mountainsong have you tried google reader? It’s good for XP and vista but not windows98. I think if you can see videos the reader would work for you. Then you can subscribe to everything and read it all at once in the reader without opening a window–unless you want to comment. I’ve got to sleep soon.
114 mountainsong 01.08.09 at 1:33 am: Well, if peace in the ME is possible, I’ll believe it when I see it. While they are blaming and hitting, others like china are watching.
115 BrianH 01.08.09 at 1:37 am: Personal messages:
Alice Rodham Puma: please email the BC/NBC team, goofsmom-at-, about a task requiring a British resident!

sue66: you cheat! Where are the other 43 uses of vinegar?
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Who’s on First? and Casey at the Bat competition from Canada.
Originally a two-man TV skit in 1958 on Ed Sullivan, here’s a full-cast enactment of “A Shakespearean Baseball Game”, by Wayne&Schuster. Wayne’s the catcher, and Schuster is the manager. http://www.canadianshakespeares.ca/multimedia/video/wayneandshuster.asx

Sorry, only for VERY patient dial-up users
116 mountainsong 01.08.09 at 1:38 am: Nijma 01.08.09 at 1:32 am Thanks for the suggestion, although I’m not sure what you mean. I will look into it tomorrow. I have XP on one computer, and Win 2000 Pro on the other.
117 mountainsong 01.08.09 at 1:39 am: Good night, Nijma. Sweet dreams.
118 mountainsong 01.08.09 at 1:40 am: Not enough money to pay me to live in D.C.
119 sandipuma 01.08.09 at 1:41 am: Hell no me either
120 mountainsong 01.08.09 at 1:44 am: I prolly shouldn’t say ‘never’, but there’s a good chance I’ll never see the east side of the Mississippi ever again.
121 Nijma 01.08.09 at 1:49 am: mountainsong, everyone thought peace in Ireland was impossible and now they’re got it. It can be done.

I would pay to live in DC.

but you better serve arigulia, sandipuma, whatever that is.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Reader
scroll down for the links to the official site.

nighty night, don’t let bedbugs bite.
122 Zee 01.08.09 at 2:18 am: #26 karen

yadda yadda yadda, give it a rest. oh…and no links?
123 Zee 01.08.09 at 2:20 am: #43 hillstheone

Thanks for the info about bon jovi!
124 Zee 01.08.09 at 2:23 am: #66 mountainsong…let’s hope it’s an idle threat, but wth! It’s pretty darn specific.
125 Zee 01.08.09 at 2:26 am: #67 heidi li

more info please! I would love a follow up on favreau. I hope for some actions targeting 1/20. My latest New Yorker about made me throw up, saying that Ofraud was studying Lincoln speeches.

um. Bunch of bull…the groper will be writing the pig’s speech! Let’s try to point that out in a concerted effort.
126 Heidi Li 01.08.09 at 2:32 am: #125 Will share information as I have it to share. Promise!

Good night all.
127 Zee 01.08.09 at 2:34 am: if murphy wants to look into this for future posts, this is unbelievable (I mean witches covens meeting under Lake Victoria?? really? This is the level of Obama’s cronies?? Women are so powerful and scary!!!!) :

http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2009-01-07/the-truth-about-rick-warren-in-africa/1/

Obama’s Africa Problem

by Max Blumenthal

Team Obama likes to cite (Rick) Warren’s work on AIDS in Africa to combat criticism about the controversial pastor. But how does burning condoms in the name of Jesus save lives?

…Warren’s defense against charges of intolerance ultimately depends upon his ace card: his heavily publicized crusade against AIDS in Africa. Obama senior advisor David Axelrod cited Warren’s work in Africa as one of “the things on which [Obama and Warren] agree” on the December 28 episode of Meet the Press. Warren may be opposed to gay rights and abortion, the thinking goes, but he tells evangelicals it is their God-given duty to battle one of the greatest pandemics in history. What could be wrong with that?

…However, an investigation into Warren’s involvement in Africa reveals a web of alliances with right-wing clergymen who have sidelined science-based approaches to combating AIDS in favor of abstinence-only education. More disturbingly, Warren’s allies have rolled back key elements of one of the continent’s most successful initiative, the so-called ABC program in Uganda. Stephen Lewis, the United Nations’ special envoy for HIV/AIDS in Africa, told the New York Times their activism is “resulting in great damage and undoubtedly will cause significant numbers of infections which should never have occurred.”

Warren’s man in Uganda is a charismatic pastor named Martin Ssempa. …Ssempe enjoys close ties to his country’s First Lady, Janet Museveni, and is a favorite of the Bush White House…. Ssempa’s stunts have included burning condoms in the name of Jesus and arranging the publication of names of homosexuals in cooperative local newspapers while lobbying for criminal penalties to imprison them.

Dr. Helen Epstein, a public health consultant who authored the book, The Invisible Cure: Why We’re Losing The Fight Against AIDS In Africa, met Ssempa in 2005. Epstein told me the preacher seemed gripped by paranoia, warning her of a secret witches coven that met under Lake Victoria. “Ssempa also spoke to me for a very long time about his fear of homosexual men and women,” Epstein said. “He seemed very personally terrified by their presence.”

When Warren unveiled his global AIDS initiative at a 2005 conference at his Saddleback Church, he cast Ssempa as his indispensable sidekick…
128 Zee 01.08.09 at 2:35 am: Thanks, heidi li! They need to hear more from us! Good night!
129 hillstheone 01.08.09 at 2:50 am: Hi Zee,
Yeah, Bon Jovi helping Hillary, that’s pretty cool.

mountainsong,
I was just online looking up the flooding info. I have friends in southwest Washington, near little town called Elma. If you hear about any flooding there could you please post, thanks!
130 BrianH 01.08.09 at 3:44 am: Sue66:
I found them, here: http://www.i4at.org/lib2/60vine.htm. 63, actually!
131 BrianH 01.08.09 at 4:03 am: mountainsong 01.08.09 at 1:00 am

I’m still waiting for santa to bring me a dual-core processor with a 2 gig harddrive.//
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I think the smallest hard drives available now are about 80 GB. RAM, however, is another thing. You can go up to Quad Core with about 8 Gig core now, I think. I’m still down at 1-core P4 1.7 GHz, with ½GB memory. I wouldn’t dream of attempting to run Vista. It’s a HAWG!
132 BrianH 01.08.09 at 4:23 am: Watching the Obots caper and chant and rant, I REALLY regret being made to live through such “interesting times”. If Omposter is inaugurated and gets up a full head of steam, it will be about as devastating to the US and West as nuclear war. IMO, his and his backers’ intention is to crash the West so badly it can never recover.

Even Marx was smart enough to want to keep the advancements the bourgeoisie bring in for the benefit of all, not that his system has or had a prayer of maintaining, much less advancing, them.

Making the US Gov’t a playground for one-worlders will create a dystopia like I shudder to imagine.
133 sue66 01.08.09 at 5:28 am: Dances
I remember the routine “slowly I turned”. I have it on some cd’s of old radio shows. Found this for you and it was a laugh seeing the routine. As classic as “who’s on first”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pQii1L8fGk&feature=related
134 sue66 01.08.09 at 5:36 am: BrianH
Thanks. Mine was in an e-mail and I didn’t want to copy the whole thing. I am taking a closer look at it because I need to save somewhere and this would save a lot. The last time I just bought cleaning stuff, and I always run out of everything at the same time, the cost floored me. These hints will help all of us out in the upcoming years I think. Another form of support.
135 BrianH 01.08.09 at 5:36 am: Posted in the Documenting Obama site:
A crisis becoming a conflagration: http://www.michaelyon-online.com/mexico-aar-december-2008-general-mccaffrey-ret.htm
136 sue66 01.08.09 at 5:44 am: Check out freemenow today. She has an incredible story, with all the links, of a NY new senator charged with slashing his girlfriends face with a glass. Sounds like he’s going to get away with it from the tone of the articles
http://freemenow.wordpress.com/2009/01/08/oops-i-accidentally-smashed-a-glass-slashed-her-face-dragged-her-down-a-hall-screaming/
137 sue66 01.08.09 at 5:48 am: This one is for the “cold case” file. The murder of a 12 year old girl happened in 1970, her cousin was just charged with the murder. At least some cops never give up.
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2009/01/07/cold-case.html
138 turndownobama 01.08.09 at 6:19 am: roofingbird 01.07.09 at 9:36 pm
Murphy you might be right about the ads on the websites, I would add my reason. I started on dial up at the beginning of the election race, and kept to it even though it drove me crazy. I wanted to see what the rest of the country sees. So I kept the blongers and blingers off because they take f**king forever to load. For example, it takes up to 15 minutes to load the blog talk now instead of the older 6-8 minutes. If you get a drop, this may be one reason why.
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I’m low tech and Opera browser helps: it’s easy to toggle images off and on. I keep them off by default. I make all my blogs mostly text also, no fancy stuff.
139 BrianH 01.08.09 at 6:30 am: “Big Hollywood” fights back against the Pulverize Palin Pogrom. With exclusive video!!
140 turndownobama 01.08.09 at 6:33 am: murphy 01.07.09 at 4:02 pm
sure thing remember november.

I will happily highlight, congratulate, and support any man who is working towards our goals.

If you have a recommendation — please post it here and I’ll follow up. seriously.
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Alessandro Machi of DailyPuma.com !!! He has done this fabulous site, great new concept: ALL the Puma blogs excerpted and updated, plus focuses on current issues in the … pumasphere? Not just your new site, but all the puma sites that exist, not just the ones you list.
141 Notyoursweetie 01.08.09 at 6:40 am: And my take on the unsurprising reagan act obama is pulling
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2009/01/08/messing-with-social-security/
142 TexasTigress 01.08.09 at 6:41 am: Sue , I have to leave , but if you can slap together a prowl to get that effing mf’er new Senator removed from his cushy new office , I will do it !

I would suggest contacting Bloomberg , the Gov. all they NY state reps . Sen. Clinton , and the media as well as the NY SOS and AG .

If you don’t have time to put one together , I will just send it to our media . I am sooooo pissed he thinks he’s getting away with it ! THANK YOU so much for the story . Oh , I will also e-mail the various writers that are linked in the article on Free US Now .
Thank you , Sue !
143 sue66 01.08.09 at 7:02 am: A chronic domestic batterer murdered his ex-girlfriend, dressed up her body and put makeup on her face, leaving a twisted love note in blood on the wall after killing his own mother during a weekend rampage in New Bedford, authorities said yesterday.

http://www.bostonherald.com/news/regional/view.bg?articleid=1143860&srvc=home&position=1
144 sue66 01.08.09 at 7:03 am: TexasTigress
I’ll work on getting a prowl together, but send to media. I looked for these stories and they were buried.
145 sue66 01.08.09 at 7:07 am: On the New York Story, these are the links.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2008/12/19/2008-12-19_queens_city_councilman_hiram_monserrate_.html

http://gothamist.com/2008/12/21/queens_pol_claims_gfs_black_eye_sti.php

http://www.nypost.com/seven/12242008/news/regionalnews/queens/ex_factor_enraged_hiram__cops_145659.htm

http://www.nycstatehood.org/portal/aggregator?page=1
146 Alice Rodham Puma 01.08.09 at 7:13 am: Good morning PUMAs

http://2009.bloggies.com/

As far as I can see this one is just ONE vote per person (IP)
147 Alice Rodham Puma 01.08.09 at 7:14 am: What You Need to Know

* A “weblog” is defined as a page with dated entries.
* The contest is open to any weblogs that existed for a period of time during the year 2008, so weblogs that were discontinued during 2008 are also eligible.
* Only one nomination form and one finalist voting form may be submitted per person.
* E-mail addresses are required to vote. You must use your own address and confirm the validation e-mail.
* If you attempt to submit a second ballot, your first one will be replaced.
* In the nomination phase:
o URLs are required.
o At least three (3) different weblogs total must be nominated.
o There is no limit to the number of categories a weblog may be nominated for.
o Nominees have to fit the category they are placed in.
* Weblogs may win a category over multiple years a maximum of three times.
148 normapapuma 01.08.09 at 7:35 am: Drop-in to say I voted yesterday, did the prowl!

Did anyone see Ann Coulter call Bill O’Reilly (Conservatuve Turn-coat for obambi)a chauvanist sexist to his face on his show last night? No dog in the fight, but I thought that was cool of her!
149 kat in your hat 01.08.09 at 8:01 am: @ #141 TexasTigress

&
sue66

Yes, if you want to do a prowl on it, include the Queens DA, judge, and prosecutor/s on the case.
150 kat in your hat 01.08.09 at 8:03 am: strike that, just prowl judge and def. DA.
151 sue66 01.08.09 at 8:22 am: Thanks kat, I’ll look them up. It is just ridiculous that this is happening.
I’ve seen the same sort of thing but on a much lower profile before.
152 admin 01.08.09 at 9:22 am: hiya norma!

did everybody vote today?

for The COnfluence:
http://2008.weblogawards.org/polls/best-liberal-blog/

for Nice Deb:
http://2008.weblogawards.org/polls/best-small-blog/

for Uppity Woman:
http://2008.weblogawards.org/polls/best-new-blog/
153 Notyoursweetie 01.08.09 at 9:35 am: The media congratulates itself with sticking to the narrative – no matter how much fudging of the facts it requires
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2009/01/08/there-goes-obamas-first-mistake-agai/
154 DancesWithPumas 01.08.09 at 9:40 am: I don’t know, I just can’t get behind being ’supremely grateful’ for Puma men. That would be like singing eternal high praises for the man who cooks a meal, or changes a diaper, and receives praises year round for doing so, while we take for granted, because ‘it’s just expected’,
the woman who does the same chores a thousand times per year

Everyone gets points for doing the right thing… but why give anyone extrapointshighpraisesupremegratitude for doing the right thing based on their gender? Would singing high praises be a symptom of never expecting men to do the right thing… and therefore an insult to them?
Anyway, why fawn? The inverse ratio is tiresome.

I really don’t see Puma men carrying much of, or any extra load anyway, (and at least one hasn’t carried any of the load). Before anything is said, I understand the reasons of those with medical constraints who are unable to do heavy lifting, so that’s a non issue.

Aside from that, grateful for the Pumas I like and respect, women and men.
155 sue66 01.08.09 at 9:43 am: NOP
Just reading your local paper. What an amazing city you live in. Also one that has been on my really want to visit list for ages. I really must try to get there.
156 sue66 01.08.09 at 9:52 am: There is a very concrete reason why I am so enthusiastic about our fight against violence towards women. My daughter, Dana, was involved with a guy a few years ago. He was emotionally and verbally abusive towards her. She couldn’t see it and didn’t want to hear it. All we could do was be ready for a call from her. It came one very cold February morning. She was trying to walk home, barefoot and wrapped in a blanket. She was sleeping when he grabbed her and tried to strangle her. She fought back and was lucky enough to get out. Despite a no contact order the jerk managed to contact her and somehow convince her that it was all a mistake. This incident really changed her attitude. She is married and has a little girl of her own. She also has in place an exit plan. for her and her daughter. So far there has been little indication she will need it, but fully trusting is hard. We are the exit plan of a friend of hers that lives a few houses away. We told this girl, any time, night or day.
Most of her friends have set up exit plans as a result of what happened to her.
157 admin 01.08.09 at 9:56 am: hang on to your hats posted,

take it upstairs!
158 kat in your hat 01.08.09 at 9:56 am: unusual/ controversial analogy:

“Puma Hate and Anti-Semitism…”

“Is puma the new jew – a people persecuted for their beliefs, and eventually for their failure to fall in line, and follow the chosen one?

Now, I am not saying that PUMAS have been subjected to the horrors of the holocaust, or the years and years of persecution, but I thought it was a snappy intro that might grab your attention.”

http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2009/01/08/puma-hate-and-anti-semitism/#more-10288
159 oneilma 01.08.09 at 9:58 am: I love the poems. Please keep them coming. Browning is another example of a woman condemned to her husband’s larger shadow. He wrote long narrative poetry while she only wrote love sonnets, her most famous being “How do I love thee? Let me count the ways.” But there was obviously a lot of feminism in her blood.
160 admin 01.08.09 at 10:04 am: that’s right oneilma — but Barrett actually wrote almost every kind of poem. Aurora Leigh is a very long poem which uses nearly every element of epic poetry except subject matter — rather than writing about war or the founding of a state, Barrett wrote about the personal journey and struggles of a female writer (herself, barely disguised). aurora leigh is a fascinating example of a woman of immense talent audaciously changing a literary form to suit her needs.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aurora_Leigh

Will keep the poems coming– thanks!
161 roofingbird 01.08.09 at 1:16 pm: Murph- did you send that? I thought I saw annabelles name up there. If it was you, thank you.
162 murphy 01.08.09 at 1:29 pm: yes, I did roofingbird! I noticed the mistype on the byline and changed it.

See, I DO try to read every comment.
163 PUMAbear 01.09.09 at 11:08 pm: If there is any doubt that the DNC had decided long ago to throw LGBT voters under the bus in exchange for “faith” voters read this. The DNC brass also includes Nancy Pelosi. Tim Kaine’s appointment replacing Howard Dean is no fluke!

http://www.usnews.com/blogs/god-and-country/2009/1/5/why-tim-kaine-is-likely-to-expand-democratic-faith-outreach-as-dnc-chair.html
164 PUMAbear 01.09.09 at 11:10 pm: My last comment is in moderation. Was it something I said?