Puma PAC’s “Stop the Onslaught of Sexism” Team for 2009

by murphy on January 3, 2009

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2008 was a banner year for sexism in the mainstream media. This year we learned that it is perfectly acceptable for national news correspondents and pundits to refer to women candidates for national office as castrators, typical ex-wives, nags, Barbie Dolls, and to advocate their murders. The misogyny from public institutions was not reserved only for the candidates, one a sitting Senator and the other a respected, reformist Governor. Nope, everyone from Chris Matthews to Keith Olbermann to Jack Cafferty knew that it was perfectly okay to disparage, discourage, and ridicule entire voting blocs of regular Americans as bitter, older, hysterical women.

And, it worked. Even though Hillary Clinton received more votes from Democrats in the Primaries; even though she had more pledged delegates going in to the Convention; even though she was FAR more popular than Obama with voters in traditional Democratic states; even though she was stupendously more qualified than he — she STILL was passed over by the DNC and the Super Delegates. She was trashed by the media as a monster and a bitch and insane. And even though Sarah Palin is clearly an intelligent, competent, and successful governor the media was STILL able to convince most Americans that she is merely a ditzy slut in high heeled leather boots. (Oh, and her family is total trash, especially the slutty pregnant teenaged girl).

These were the messages of the 2008 Presidential campaigns in terms of women in office, women running for office, and women voters. All water under the bridge you say? Well, yes if you’re talking only about the here and now. Obama won the presidential election (thanks to George W. Bush). Past performance indicates he’ll be a mediocre president at best — we shall see. The election is over forever and there really IS no use in crying over spilled milk. Past performance indicates Hillary Clinton will be an excellent Secretary of State at least — we shall see. And Sarah Palin, since she really IS an intelligent, competent, and successful person, will be FINE.

But what about 2012? 2016? What about the record low number of women appointed to Obama’s cabinet. What will stop Keith Olbermann from calling for the stupid bitch to quit when Lisa Madigan or Kay Hagan or even Sarah Palin decides to run for president in the future? As the video above asks, “Where is the line?” And we all need to ask, “When does it stop?” When will our public institutions STOP ridiculing, hobbling, and sidelining competent women who dare to run for national office?

Puma PAC believes it WON’T stop until more Americans reject the sexist discourse that shamefully biased the coverage of Clinton and Palin last year. Our Stop the Onslaught of Sexism (SOS) Team is looking back in anger — collecting, documenting, and recording the blatant examples and instances of sexism and misogyny in the media so we can educate the young women in high school now who will be voters in the next Presidential election. So we will be armed with facts and ready to react immediately when the media starts revving its sexist engines against the NEXT intrepid woman who decides to run.

Be a part of the Puma PAC SOS Action Team. This is our last Action Team for 2009, and it will be one of our most important efforts. To join, send an email to actioncenter@pumapac.org today. Your job will be very rewarding, but it won’t be all that difficult — after all you’ll have LOTS of material to work with:

p.s. every article from in the link to Reclusive Leftist is worth reading. Read THESE too. You’ll be glad you did.

An unforgettable Classic from Erica Barnett to remind you why we MUST not let this pass:

Hillary Clinton is a bitch. A big ol’ bitchy bitch. And a cunt.A “big fucking whore.” Fortunately, you can “call a woman anything.” She’s “Nurse Ratched.” She’ll castrate you if she gets a chance. She would like that. She’s a “She-Devil.” She’s a madam, and her daughter’s a whore. She’s frigid, and she can’t give head. She’s a “She-Devil.” A lesbian. A nag. When things get tough, she cries like a big dumb GIRL. In fact, she’s just that — a “little girl.” In FACT, she wants to “cry her way to the White House.” To be, ahem, “Crybaby-in-Chief.” That proves that she’s not tough enough. But she’s also not feminine enough. She’s “screechy.” She’s an “aging, resentful female.” She’s “Sister Frigidaire.” She really ought to quit running for President and stick to housework. She basically spent her entire times as First Lady going to tea parties. She’s a monster whojust won’t die. In fact, she really should just die. You can buy aurinal target with her face on it to express what you really think of her. OMG she’s got claws! She’s crazy. In fact, she’s a lunatic. She’s petty and vindictiveand entitled. She’s a washed-up old hag. She’s “everybody’s first wifestanding outside probate court.” She’s a “scolding mother.” She’s shrill… shrill… shrill. She can’t take it when people are mean to her. She’s a “hellish housewife.” She’sTanya Harding. She CAN’T be President, what with the mood swings and the menses.Any woman who votes for her is voting with her vagina, not her brain. Women only like Hillary because she’s a fellow Vagina-American. And because they vote with their feelings. Frankly, anyone who still thinks we need “feminine role models” should get over it and move on, already. Oh, and men who supporters are castratos in the eunuch chorus. You shouldn’t make her President because she wants it too much. She’s totally just banking on support from ugly old feminists. And she looooves to “play the victim.” She cackles! And cackles. And cackles. It’s like she’s a witch or something! She’s definitely“witchy.” And now you can buy her cackle as your ring tone. Her voice, too, is “grating”—like “fingernails on a blackboard” to “some men.” She’s hiding behind her gender. She isn’t a “convincing mom” because she’s too strident. She never did anything on her own. Her husband keeps her on a leash. She hates men. Her campaign is a “catfight.” She makes people want to kill themselves, is like a “domineering mother,” and is cold. And OMG she has boobies! All of which are reasons to hateher. (And boy, could I go on.)

Oh, and if you even mention any of this, you’re either silly or a bad person.  

And she has cankles. (h/t mangoprincess)

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murphy 01.03.09 at 11:35 am

for anyone who needs a drink after clicking on those links, the bar is to your right.

for those who do not drink, massages on the house to your left.

then come back and join the team.

our vision for this team is that once we’ve collected a Freak Show’s worth of documented material we’ll take it on the road, sending out teams of Pumas to schools, book clubs, women’s groups, and other local forums to present.

We’ll call it the Sexist Freak Show of 2008!

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GoPumaGo 01.03.09 at 11:37 am

There still is a small chance that Hillary will be our next President of USA.

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DancesWithPumas 01.03.09 at 11:39 am

GoPumaGo 01.03.09 at 11:37 am [edit]
There still is a small chance that Hillary will be our next President of USA.
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:::::::THUD:::::::

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MKfromLA 01.03.09 at 11:46 am

We need to know where the vomit bags are kept.

Then we can go the Ladies Room, freshen up, head off to the bar, then over to the masseuse.

You’re right Murphy – an embarassment of riches for the SOS team.

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Headclunker 01.03.09 at 11:49 am

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murphy 01.03.09 at 11:51 am

thanks headclunker — notyoursweetie has an excellent comparison of the efforts on both sides: Dems saying they wont seat Burris and Repubs saying they wont seat Franken:

http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2009/01/03/senate-showdown-racial-chicken-part-deux/

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Headclunker 01.03.09 at 11:55 am

I like the “Sexist Freak Show” idea. Calling them pigs only insults the barnyard animal.

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HP Boston 01.03.09 at 11:56 am

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murphy 01.02.09 at 9:37 pm

i loved HP Boston’s first comment at the top of this thread.

“I invented procrastinating.”

But dont let her fool you — HP is a well-known vicious liar. Everyone knows that *I* invented procrastinating.

————————————————–
I missed Friday night on the blog…..BUT I found this as I read to catch up.
You Murphy invented PROCRATANATION!!
I INVENTED PROCATINATING!! liar liar pants on fire!
Oh should I be pissed and say I will leave this blog NAH, it would take too long, I would procrastinate!

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DancesWithPumas 01.03.09 at 12:01 pm

::::::::tossing HP Boston a coupla “S”es::::::

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NewOrleansPuma 01.03.09 at 12:03 pm

Murphy: Considering that these excellent links in your thread were done MAY 8,2008 and each of us knows that more and worse went on after that, the Sexist Freak Show on the Road idea, using these images, language, and links along with others after MAY 8,2008 is one very well worth the doing.

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DancesWithPumas 01.03.09 at 12:04 pm

“Stop the Onslaught of Sexism”
maybe
“Stop the Onslaughter of Sexism”?

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HP Boston 01.03.09 at 12:05 pm

I am really torn the SOS team or the BS (barry soeerentooo)
grit and grime, screw us all the time effort?
I also love educating YOUNG girls about how awesome women are! Mmmm procrastinating to which passion I can not fail better at?? I know I will get lots of help from the brains in this awesome Pac. WOW are you guys impressive!

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HP Boston 01.03.09 at 12:08 pm

DancesWithPumas 01.03.09 at 12:01 pm

::::::::tossing HP Boston a coupla “S”es::::::

Hey thanks looks like 2 will be needed…….sucky spell checker!

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NewOrleansPuma 01.03.09 at 12:29 pm

Murphy: I am doing a research project which is of use, I think. I am going to each blog listed on our site as well as those at the Pumasphere and am collecting some information regarding cross references of blogs on sites and the activitiy or not going on on the various blogs.

I am also periodically making comments on some of the less active blogs regarding what we are doing here.

I think it is an excellent idea to have our own source in Action Center of blogs, people, etc to which we can send Prowls. I am doing what I am doing in order to not forget and to be able to use as well what we have here on blog roll, and on Pumasphere and other places.

It is a bit convoluted but will make sense when I get finished!
Updating of current, past connections is as important, as you know, as new ones!
Is anyone activiely dealing with the Pumasphere site..at this time?

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mountainsong 01.03.09 at 12:53 pm

Murphy, Holy Crap, I just got up, and I have all THAT to read first? Well, we got snow again last night so I’m prolly not going anywhere today. Might as well do something even if it’s useful.
Oh, and there is still a small chance I might win the lottery….if I buy a ticket.
Ok, I am still working on the contact list from the sites provided by rqualrightsamendment.org.
Last night, someone said that only the director of an organization can request to be put on their list and that
Murphy has done so. Did you/she also request contact info for other groups from them? Just want to avoid any redundancy.
And… did you read my posts last night suggesting a grant writing effort?

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BrianH 01.03.09 at 12:55 pm

OT;
Wow! Just catching up on the thread that spun out from my mention of Ada Lovelace, computer genius. But all you listed just scratches the surface, I think.

Here’s another name to set you off: Mileva Marić. :D

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mountainsong 01.03.09 at 12:55 pm

Oops, it’s actually the National Council of Womens’ Organizations, a non partisan network representing 200 womens’ organizations with more than 10 million members. It is their partial list that I am working from right now.

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MKfromLA 01.03.09 at 12:57 pm

DWP you have mail

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Tilly F 01.03.09 at 12:58 pm

Add to this excellent post a great one over at No Quarter warning us that there must be some kind of fatwa re Obama and humor of any kind, since no one is allowed to make fun of, tease, or laugh at him. So the writers and comics will make up for that by hitting on women. We need to see that coming.
Thanks for helping me stay sane.

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MKfromLA 01.03.09 at 12:59 pm

waaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhh I wanna be on all the teams

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NewOrleansPuma 01.03.09 at 1:00 pm

Dances: I cannot remember..can you help me out? Is there a team that is going to be watching legislation coming out of this FRAUD’s Regime?

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mountainsong 01.03.09 at 1:00 pm

I also posted this for feedback on how their goals might parallel our own:
http://www.capponline.org/index.html

The Center for Advancement of Public Policy
For Equity and Accountability

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The Center for Advancement of Public Policy fosters equitable, democratic, and humane management in government, corporations, and other organizations; seeks the elimination of prejudice, sexism, and discrimination in the workplace and in society; and promotes democratic government through research, investigation and education. The Center is a nonprofit, 501(c)(3) organization founded in 1991. It serves as an independent and nonpartisan resource to members of Congress, the press, advocacy organizations, community leaders, employee groups, corporate managers, and consumers.

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The Center promotes women’s equity in the workplace, in political participation, in family relationships, and throughout society, by formulating policy options that are responsive to the economic and social realities faced by contemporary women. To increase public awareness and to encourage action in behalf of women’s equity, the Center published WAC – the Women’s Action Connectiv (formerly WFF, the Washington Feminist Faxnet – a periodic newsletter to activists throughout the world. WAC is not being published at present.

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The Center promotes a more responsible capitalism by pressing corporations to become fully accountable to their stakeholders ­ the employees, customers, communities, stockholders, suppliers, and the greater society (including the earth, its environment, and future generations), all of whom contribute significantly to corporate success or are affected significantly by corporate actions. Full and fair accountability requires disclosure of individual corporate effects on the environment, workers, and communities. To bring about this accountability, the Center sponsors the
Stakeholder Alliance, an association of organizations and individuals that promotes the interests of corporate stakeholders. The Alliance acts to hold corporations fully accountable to all stakeholders for their actions.

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The Center also undertakes sponsored and unsponsored research, including projects directed toward achieving greater equity in education and in testing.

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MKfromLA 01.03.09 at 1:05 pm

#14 NewOrleansPuma 01.03.09 at 12:29 pm

I am going to each blog listed on our site as well as those at the Pumasphere and am collecting some information regarding cross references of blogs on sites and the activitiy or not going on on the various blogs.

I am also periodically making comments on some of the less active blogs regarding what we are doing here.

~ ~ ~

I think I see where you’re headed NOP. If I understand you correctly, you’re doing an Action to wire the blogs into better connectivity? Like building an internet from a bunch of intranets?

What a great idea.

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DancesWithPumas 01.03.09 at 1:07 pm

BrianH 01.03.09 at 12:55 pm [edit]
Here’s another name to set you off: Mileva Marić.
—————-
Brian, it’s jaw-droppingly unbelievable, really! Based on what we’re taught, one would get the inpression that “Women” is a small tribe of 200 or so, living in the hidden remote recesses of the Amazon Rainforest, and studied by a only a handful of interested/curious anthropolgists, instead of a tribe of millions representing 51% of the population. Do men really need to sequester eradicate the record of contributions by women in order to appear superior? It seems that way to me, but in so doing, it only makes them appear pathetic and inferior.

“Mileva Maric-Einstein
(December 19, 1875 – August 4, 1948)
The Year 2008 is 60 Years Since the Death of Mileva Maric

Mileva Maric Einstein was the first wife of Albert Einstein. Mileva was his companion, mathematician, and co-worker on the “Theory of Relativity”. Mileva was a Serbian woman from the Serbian city of Novi Sad. Newest evidence suggests that Mileva’s role in formulating the “Theory of Relativity” was significant.”
http://www.teslasociety.com/mileva_einstein.htm

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mountainsong 01.03.09 at 1:08 pm

This is another great site:

http://www.centerwomenpolicy.org/about/contact/default.asp

I think I’m going to find a huge overlap of common causes.

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HP Boston 01.03.09 at 1:08 pm

Here’s another name to set you off: Mileva Marić.

OH YES Einstein’s wife, she was the genius!

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DancesWithPumas 01.03.09 at 1:09 pm

NewOrleansPuma 01.03.09 at 1:00 pm
Dances: I cannot remember..can you help me out? Is there a team that is going to be watching legislation coming out of this FRAUD’s Regime?
——————
oneilma suggested it, and was interested in the ObamaWatch team, to monitor legislation, but, I haven’t heard from her.
If you want to be on that team, email actioncenter@pumapac.org.

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mountainsong 01.03.09 at 1:11 pm

DancesWithPumas 01.03.09 at 1:07 pm Hmmmm, so from all this…..I wonder if it’s Martha’s fault George cut down the cherry tree cuz she wanted some cherries. Maybe he really crossed the Delaware because they were fighting.

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MKfromLA 01.03.09 at 1:14 pm

DancesWithPumas 01.02.09 at 10:24 pm

Alice Paul, that intrepid organizer who first wrote out the Equal Rights Amendment in 1923, said,
“I always feel the movement is sort of a mosaic. Each of us puts in one little stone, and then you get a great mosaic at the end.”

~ ~ ~

BrianH & DWP – Mileva Marić

Not just the movement, but all women’s contributions is a beautiful mosaic. And to the point you so often make DWP – the artist goes without credit.

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MKfromLA 01.03.09 at 1:15 pm

DWP you have mail.

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NewOrleansPuma 01.03.09 at 1:19 pm

22MKfromLa: I am attempting to do an update of several resources: Our blog roll here; The Pumasphere website blogroll,and a much larger one that will take much time..sites that were/are under the Let’s Say No Deal..
Some of these sites clearly because of who knows what have become dormant or semidormant or ?.
I want to see which ones have. I want to see which ones have not. I want to see which ones have links on their blogs or websites to us here. I have found a few for example who have a link but the link is to the original site,,,the cottage.
Yet, the blog is still active.
I am doing the old time nasty work in the world outside the virtual one that used tobe called..updating a mailing list or updating information about entities who may or may not be still active, in existence, keenly currently aligned here with us, or with the antiObama mode of Pumas.
As I have begun this updating, I have periodically posted on some of these entities. I wish to do a more systematic post after I have gone through all the blogs on our site and the Pumasphere site, which is something that Murphy and Taggles I think began. Anyway…I think you do get what I am doing.
I then thought I and perhaps some others if they wish might want to take a number of blogs and then go over to them and write a little energized PUMA note telling them about our Forums and inviting them to participate…sort of like a little personal invite.

So Murphy: What do you think about this idea?

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VTcat 01.03.09 at 1:23 pm

Did you guys see this:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,475464,00.html

SANTA ANA, Calif. — Two Santa Ana College football players and a friend have been charged with raping and assaulting an 18-year-old woman while she lay unconscious in an Orange County hotel room.

Freshman running back Michael Clemmons, 19, and sophomore wide receiver Luster Lewis, 20, were arrested this week after someone found a 19-minute video the players made of the assault, the Orange County district attorney’s office said Friday.

John Paul Foster II, 22, is also accused of helping the players repeatedly rape the victim in July after she passed out at a party at a hotel in Tustin.

The three men each pleaded not guilty to six counts of rape and sexual assault and were being held Friday on $100,000 bail.

Foster was arrested Monday, Clemmons on Tuesday and Lewis surrendered Friday.

Attorneys for Foster and Clemmons could not be immediately reached. A message left with Lewis’ attorney was not immediately returned.

Jason Kehler, sports information coordinator for Santa Ana College, said he was not aware of the charges because the school was closed for the holidays.

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NewOrleansPuma 01.03.09 at 1:25 pm

Dances: Thanks, Dances. Right now I am doing what I have indicated in mypost at 30 but I am very interested in a Legislative Watch team, definitely. I want to finish what I am doing so that I know what Puma blogs out there are still active, etc. I have spent too much time in my life outside…the virtual…”attempting to communicate” with entities that may not be as active as I would have liked to stumble on that again…so I am simply doing my own..thing here which I hope will be useful to others when I am finished.
In any case, it has a good use!..of only for clarity for me when I decide what team I may be on. The legislative matter is my first priority.

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murphy 01.03.09 at 1:30 pm

jfcmf! vtcat.

holy smokes.

thank god for the ubiquity of technology.

Will you post your comment, with a link to the original news story, in our Woman Lynching Forum VTcat?

http://pumapac.org/forums/woman-lynching/

thanks.

and nice to see you by the way — happy new year!

NOP — it’s a super idea, I love it and we will all reap the benefits of it.

RE: a legislative watch team. YES YES YES. I said the SOS Team was the last one to organize, but the Legislative Team is REALLY important. Not sure if oneilma is still interested, but we sorely need that. It’s actually not THAT time consuming. We will be focusing on watching specific bills, not the entire legislative agenda — lots of reading and collecting links, which many of us do already.

If interested, bless you, and send an email to actioncenter@pumapac.org

thanks!

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cjv 01.03.09 at 1:32 pm

HP Boston 01.03.09 at 1:08 pm

“Here’s another name to set you off: Mileva Marić.
OH YES Einstein’s wife, she was the genius!”

However, it appears as since her name was never included for patents, such as the 1905 papers Einstein submitted, where now scholars and the like seem to make a large avoidance at even allowing any credit to be given to her for any part of her contributions.

Much of what we have seen over the past thread how women had to give their ideas, inventions, etc. over to their spouses in order to get patents and the recognition went to the husband. grrrrrrrr

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HP Boston 01.03.09 at 1:36 pm

cjv 01.03.09 at 1:32 pm

Yes I had watched a PBS story on Einstein and they said she “may” have been the main contributor …..interesting.

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BrianH 01.03.09 at 1:36 pm

The Legislative Watch is likely to spin off quite a few Prowls, I’d imagine. The suppression of Talk Radio with the Fairness Doctrine bill? The revival of the Easy Credit for Deadbeat Homebuyers Bill? Etc.

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NewOrleansPuma 01.03.09 at 1:37 pm

Murphy: Thanks, Murphy. Ok then, I will send a note to actioncenter regarding my interest in legislative watch…team…and I will continue this other maze of tediousness of importance..of which..I am an expert..maybe not in the virtual world but in the one outside…I surely saved a lot of postage and phone calls that is for sure over the years! Let me see if I can make figure out where some of these blogs are…

Now Murphy…if youthink that I think a legislative watch team is not that time consumming,…you think I still think that behind the next Oak is that leprochaun Pot of Gold…you leprochaun..you…(I do!)

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HP Boston 01.03.09 at 1:37 pm

BrianH 01.03.09 at 1:36 pm

I am sure they will try to stop our efforts. We will be threatened!

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VTcat 01.03.09 at 1:40 pm

Murphy #33: Posted it. Interestingly, the story does not appear to have gotten much coverage. How surprising.

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Boston Boomer 01.03.09 at 1:42 pm

Murphy,

Thank your for this post and for all the work you have done over the past year. I especially admire your campaign against “woman lynching.” We live in a country where the number one cause of death for pregnant women is murder by male partner. We live in a country where women and girls (and boys too) are molested, raped, and murdered on a daily basis. And yet somehow our protests about this state of affairs are not seen as serious or worthy of respect by the mainstream media or many of our own representatives in government. This year we saw that even so-called “feminist” organizations are willing to ignore the extent to which woman-hating has full mainstream acceptance. Our voices must and will be heard. We cannot allow them to be silenced by ridicule, hatred, or even violence. I have been so inspired by your recent posts. Thanks again!

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NewOrleansPuma 01.03.09 at 1:42 pm

BrianH: I think you need to join the legislative watch team
Wouldn’t that be fun? Since so many bills are already sitting in Committes from 2007 waiting to be rolled out …we are already behind! But….just think? It may offer an opportunity to engage people from other perpectives. And in this world of Ojingo, we all need all the alignments we can find!

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mountainsong 01.03.09 at 1:43 pm

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murphy 01.03.09 at 1:43 pm

Have you all heard of the Holla Back girls? It’s an online org in most major cities. Girls and women who have been groped, verbally assaulted, stalked, and harassed snap pics of the creeps with their cell phone cameras and post them to the Holla Back site. Often people will recognize the faces and publicly shame the assaulters. In Boston, where I live, a couple of high school girls were groped on the MBTA by a regular rider when they were going to school. They figured he’d be back on the trolley the next day so they brought their cameras, took his picture when he wasnt looking, and gave the pics to the police. The cops used the pictures to id the dude (who was a rampant repeat groper on the T) and they arrested and charged him. When his name and face became public it turned out he was a married father of three and a pillar of the Newton community (tony Boston suburb). Dozens of other girls and women also came forward when they saw his picture in the Globe.

that story makes me SO happy.

Here’s the Holla Back site:
http://hollabacknyc.blogspot.com/

here’s the globe story:
http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2007/12/07/girl_photographs_alleged_t_molester/

and:
http://www.universalhub.com/node/11799

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murphy 01.03.09 at 1:44 pm

breaking news on CNN:

- Israeli ground troops have begun moving into Gaza, according to Israel Defense Forces.

http://www.cnn.com/

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Tilly F 01.03.09 at 1:44 pm

Great women missed by History: has anyone suggested Elizabeth Janeway, writer, feminist, cultural critic? At the VERY LEAST, she organized a tap-dance arrangement of “The Internationale”

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bqueen 01.03.09 at 1:45 pm

Hey Murph! I’ll go to the right, then the left…but where’s the punching bag??

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murphy 01.03.09 at 1:48 pm

New Orleans Puma and BrianH, now THAT’s what i call a TEAM!

(NOP, shhhh! I was trying to be encouraging! dont tell them they will find themselves SUCKED into a neverending maze of outrageous and blatant boondogglery that will boggle their minds and keep them awake for 48 hours at a stretch, reading and linking and feverishly taking notes and writing PROWLS and calling their senators and TEARING OUT THEIR HAIR until they collapse in a heap and we all say thanks!)

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DancesWithPumas 01.03.09 at 1:49 pm

NewOrleansPuma 01.03.09 at 1:25 pm [edit]
The legislative matter is my first priority.
———————-
Sounds good! Since my last comment, we have an additional member to the team, including you, we’re up to three, and I’m sure we will be attracting more members as soon as oZero gets into gear.

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scarlet 01.03.09 at 1:49 pm

NOP – I volunteered to monitor proposed legislation. Here are two that may be of interest.

H.R. 1338 – The Paycheck Fairness Act

Paycheck Fairness Act (H.R. 1338) is legislation that would amend the Equal Pay Act and other laws nondiscrimination laws.

Federal law already provides strong protections against sex discrimination under Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Equal Pay Act. Nevertheless, this bill would:

Eliminate the caps on punitive and compensatory damages
Make punitive and compensatory damages available for even unintentional pay disparities
Eliminate employer defenses for pay disparities, such as paying people differently because they work in different parts of the country with different costs of living
Make it easier for trial lawyers to file large class actions
Impose comparable worth “guidelines,” second guessing market forces about the relative worth of different types of jobs, and
Re-impose debunked statistical analyses and auditing methods used by the Labor Department

Testimony of Paycheck Fairness Act

http://edlabor.house.gov/testimony/042407DianaFurchtgottRothtestimony.pdf pro-paycheck equity

http://www.uschamber.com/issues/testimony/2007/070711_paycheck_fairness.htm anti-paycheck equity

Excerpts of a letter from my congresswoman:

“I fully believe that equal work deserves equal pay, regardless of an employee’s sex. In fact, the very principle has been the law of the land for decades. The Equal Pay Act within the Fair Labor Standards Act and Title VII of the Civil Rights Act already prohibited workplace discrimination on the basis of sex.

“Introduced by Representative Rosa DeLauro on March 6, 2007, HR 1338 would increase penalties for discrimination in the payment of wages on the basis of sex. However, the bill does not establish any new protections for women against discrimination in the workplace; rather, it vastly expands the likelihood of discrimination lawsuits by making it easier and more lucrative for trial lawyers to bring such cases. The bill would unfairly subject employers to unlimited compensatory and punitive damages even if there was no intent to discriminate.

“That’s why I voted against HR 1338 in the House Education and Labor Subcommittee on Workforce Protections on July 24, 2008 and the House floor on July 31. Unfortunately, the House passed the bill on by a partisan vote of 247 to 178. HR 1338 has since been referred to the Senate, where it awaits further consideration.” – Judy Biggert Member of Congress

HR 7309 TWO MONTH INCOME TAX HOLIDAY

SIGN PETITION
Let’s not sit on our hands while Congress wastes more of our money! Sign the petition today and help force Congress to give you a two-month income tax holiday rather than spending another $350 million on more government bailouts!

https://redstate.kimbia.com/taxholiday

- Call your Congressman and urge them to support the plan. You can find your Representative by plugging in your zip code at house.gov and calling them through the Capitol switch board at 202.224.3121. Or, you can write or email them and ask them to support HR 7309, Gohmert’s tax holiday bill.

Most Americans were opposed to the bank bailout last fall, and neither they nor the markets themselves have confidence that any of the bailouts or “stimulus packages will work. They will have confidence in Gohmert’s plan because it is an economic stimulus that has been proven by history: tax cuts mean more spending, saving and investment. They pave the way to economic recovery. Government bailouts do not.

Gohmert’s tax holiday plan is elegant in its simplicity: every American taxpayer would pay no federal income or FICA taxes for the first two months of 2009. For the typical American family — earning about $50,000 a year — that would mean they would keep about $2000 that would otherwise be paid to the government.

Gohmert’s plan doesn’t pay for Wall Street bonuses or let banks use bailout money to buy other banks or pay dividends. It doesn’t rely on bureaucrats to pay money out to the right people at the right time or try to stimulate the economy with token payments to people who don’t pay taxes.

Most Americans pay about 25 percent of their income in federal income tax and another 7.25 percent in FICA (social security and Medicare taxes). Computing how much money Gohmert’s tax holiday would leave in your family’s checkbook is very simple.

Take your monthly income (the gross amount shown on your pay stubs before tax and any other withholding) and multiply it by .66. That amount is roughly what Gohmert’s two-month tax holiday will leave in your pocket.

Somebody earning $72,000 would get a couple of thousand dollars back a month if we allow them to get back both income tax and FICA.

Americans pay over $101 billion in income taxes and another $65.6 billion in FICA taxes each month. Under Gohmert’s plan, all of that money would — for two months, totaling about $332 billion — be left in voters’ pockets to spend however they choose to meet their families’ needs.

Gohmert quoted the late John Kenneth Galbraith who said there are only two kinds of economists: those who don’t know and those who don’t know they don’t know. He placed Paulson in the latter category. The Treasury Secretary was absolutely certain that the mortgage-backed securities needed to be bought by the government and predicted disaster if he wasn’t given authority to buy them up. But — given his more recent statement that he knew at the moment the legislation was being passed by Congress that that strategy wouldn’t work — Gohmert’s judgment seems entirely justified.

Even President-elect Obama should support Gohmert’s plan. Wasn’t he proposing a tax cut for the middle class?

Congressman Gohmert was also upset to hear disconcerting reports that some of the banks receiving bailout money will not use it to make more loans or shore up “troubled assets.” Instead the bailout money will be used to buy their smaller competition, basically using tax dollars to monopolize banking which will also provide fewer sources of credit and loans. This is why direct government intervention on such a massive scale cannot and will not work. Gohmert proposes allowing the people earning the money, the taxpayers, to decide who gets bailed out by buying the products and utilizing the companies that are best meeting their needs. The market will then be able to correct itself and actually work again.

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DancesWithPumas 01.03.09 at 1:52 pm

“Freshman running back Michael Clemmons, 19, and sophomore wide receiver Luster Lewis, 20, were arrested this week after someone found ,b>a 19-minute video the players made of the assault, the Orange County district attorney’s office said Friday.

It’s beyond time to start thinning the herd…
I’m going to support the draft and any war the US wants to get into… if nothing else, it’s a start.

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murphy 01.03.09 at 1:53 pm

bqueen, here:

http://pumapac.org/2008/11/28/oh-this-is-rich/

right in the kisser!

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NewOrleansPuma 01.03.09 at 1:54 pm

46:Murphy: Yeah, ya rite, GURL!

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Boston Boomer 01.03.09 at 1:54 pm

I would like to nominate an amazing pioneer of developmental psychology, Mary Ainsworth, for your list of women discoverers. Ainsorth was a student of John Bowlby, the originator of Attachment Theory. He generated the theory, but she did most of the research and co-authored his books. I don’t want to bore you, but basically she studied the way children and their caregivers become attached to each other and how those early relationships affect children’s behavior. Now there is a whole body of research based on her studies that shows that early attachments affect all the relationships in our lives–from birth to old age. She also had a huge effect on public attitudes toward the treatment of infants, because she discovered how important it is for infants to be loved unconditionally and for the first year of life to have their needs responded to consistently. I cannot begin to describe the importance of Mary Ainsworth’s work to the fields of developmental psychology, personality, and social psychology, and psychotherapy. I’ll find some links to info and videos if anyone is interested.

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murphy 01.03.09 at 1:54 pm

dwp: “It’s beyond time to start thinning the herd…
I’m going to support the draft and any war the US wants to get into… if nothing else, it’s a start.”

now THAT’S funny.

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NewOrleansPuma 01.03.09 at 1:56 pm

48scarlet: Speak of the…angel..and she appears! I just sent a note to Dances saying I hoped Scarlet volunteered for this team..and hurray…you flew in!

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murphy 01.03.09 at 1:56 pm

BB– bring em on!

not boring AT ALL.

we are building our very own treasure trove of knowledge, right here, heterogynously, and for FREE!

as Alice Rodham Puma said yesterday,

“I think we hold the key ourselves to our own freedom.”
– Alice Rodham Puma, 1/2/09

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bqueen 01.03.09 at 1:56 pm

Holla Back site: GREAT LINK!!!!! Thanks for that Murph!

hey, dances! I posted the baez song on velvetparkmedia & the ladies loved it!

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Boston Boomer 01.03.09 at 1:57 pm

Murphy,

I hadn’t heard about that story about the girls fighting back against gropers. How wonderful! Fight the power, Boston girls! I love it. I’m bookmarking that site.

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bqueen 01.03.09 at 1:57 pm

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murphy 01.03.09 at 1:58 pm

dwp 1/3/09 #23:

“Based on what we’re taught, one would get the inpression that “Women” is a small tribe of 200 or so, living in the hidden remote recesses of the Amazon Rainforest, and studied by a only a handful of interested/curious anthropolgists, instead of a tribe of millions representing 51% of the population. ”

CLASSIC!

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DancesWithPumas 01.03.09 at 2:00 pm

NewOrleansPuma 01.03.09 at 1:56 pm [edit]
48scarlet: Speak of the…angel..and she appears! I just sent a note to Dances saying I hoped Scarlet volunteered for this team..and hurray…you flew in!
——————
NOP, Scarlet originated the Legislative Watch Team! My error with the oneilma reference.
If Brian is in, send an email and I’ll add your name to the team… and put you in contact with each other.

See? Now THAT’S what I’m talkin’ about!!!!

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Boston Boomer 01.03.09 at 2:05 pm

I was groped on the MBTA when I was about 19 or 20. Ugh! Of course we didn’t even dream of cell phone cameras or even cell phones–or even portable phones–in those days. I didn’t know how to handle it at all. I’m glad girls today are better prepared.

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Boston Boomer 01.03.09 at 2:08 pm

Mary Ainsworth links:

http://www.webster.edu/~woolflm/ainsworth.html

http://video.google.com/videosearch?sourceid=navclient&hl=en-GB&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4GZEZ_en-GBUS287US287&q=mary+ainsworth&um=1&sa=X&oi=video_result_group&resnum=4&ct=title#

I’ll come up with some more women pioneers in psychology. Do I just post them in comments or e-mail them somewhere? Sorry for my ignorance…

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VTcat 01.03.09 at 2:11 pm

Murphy #33: Happy New Year to you. That story made me forget my manners.

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NewOrleansPuma 01.03.09 at 2:12 pm

Scarlet: I am going to read the pro and con testimony now. So good to be working with you. I must as well finish my blog mining..so I will be back later everyone. ..plus…I have to watch a football game, if there is one…I am a metaphorical linebacker…and it helps my virtual world to smash a few running backs and quarterbacks…like you know…DA FRAUD.

As a metaphorical linebacker, I am not a fast runner, but I read plays very well…and stand my ground until I make a move and when I make a move,sometimes laterally, sometimes backways, sometimes forward…but whatever the move, I will not be put aside! And, I know how to tackle too…Later…you Pumas!

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DancesWithPumas 01.03.09 at 2:17 pm

NOP
Please send the address you want to use for teams.
Sorry, I need things spelled out for me.

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mountainsong 01.03.09 at 2:22 pm

Murphy, have you signed us up, here?
http://www.nwlc.org/

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DancesWithPumas 01.03.09 at 2:25 pm

Good grief! How many hours does it take for a camera battery to recharge already??

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mountainsong 01.03.09 at 2:25 pm

DancesWithPumas 01.03.09 at 1:52 pm ow you’re talking about real solutions. lol

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MKfromLA 01.03.09 at 2:27 pm

#24 mountainsong 01.03.09 at 1:08 pm

This is another great site:

http://www.centerwomenpolicy.org/about/contact/default.asp

I think I’m going to find a huge overlap of common causes.

~ ~ ~

mountainsong, you are creating a list for our outreach project and you will send it to the Action Center, right?

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DancesWithPumas 01.03.09 at 2:27 pm

ms lol!

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DancesWithPumas 01.03.09 at 2:29 pm

MKfromLA 01.03.09 at 2:27 pm [edit]
#24 mountainsong 01.03.09 at 1:08 pm
This is another great site:
http://www.centerwomenpolicy.org/about/contact/default.asp
I think I’m going to find a huge overlap of common causes.
~ ~ ~
mountainsong, you are creating a list for our outreach project and you will send it to the Action Center, right?
————-
Yes, please do. I’m not scooping up links off the blog because of the time involved, and the risk of missing too many.

actioncenter@pumapac.org

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murphy 01.03.09 at 2:29 pm

BB #61 — me too, on several occasions when I was in the 7th and 8th grades, riding the green line to Latin School —

ewwwwwww.

and yep, the first couple times I thought I had imagined it or it was an accident. and of course I was embarrassed and didnt tell anyone.

my own girls know better.

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HP Boston 01.03.09 at 2:31 pm

Boston Boomer 01.03.09 at 2:05 pm

I was groped on the MBTA when I was about 19 or 20. Ugh! Of course we didn’t even dream of cell phone cameras or even cell phones–or even portable phones–in those days. I didn’t know how to handle it at all. I’m glad girls today are better prepared.

—————————————–
Same here BB….but I wore spike high heeled shoes!(steel heels ruined hardwood floors)
The groper screamed you are stepping on my foot(140 lbs)
I screamed let go of my ass!!

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murphy 01.03.09 at 2:32 pm

thanks mountainsng #66 — will do,

yep MKfromLA, we will probably want to develop a template “outreach letter,” explaining our mission, our accomplishments, etc. to send to these groups for partnering.

thank heavens for Action Teams!

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Notyoursweetie 01.03.09 at 2:32 pm

I am in!
Also, from B0 woll soon have to speak out on W’s derainees
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2009/01/03/moment-of-truth-detainees-status-due-in-court/

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NewOrleansPuma 01.03.09 at 2:33 pm

Dances: The address is the one from which I sent actioncenter my notice of joining the Legislative Watchteam. That email address which is on that notice should be shared with Legislative Watch Team only.
That is my PUmaPac Prowl address as well. I do not use it publicly.

Does this make sense?

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murphy 01.03.09 at 2:33 pm

HP Boston !!! my HERO!

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mountainsong 01.03.09 at 2:36 pm

MKfromLA 01.03.09 at 2:27 pm [edit]
#24 mountainsong 01.03.09 at 1:08 pm
This is another great site:
http://www.centerwomenpolicy.org/about/contact/default.asp
I think I’m going to find a huge overlap of common causes.
~ ~ ~
mountainsong, you are creating a list for our outreach project and you will send it to the Action Center, right?
————-

Yes, that is why Im doing it. You or Dances asked me to do it last night, so I started it then and I’m still owrking on it now. First, I’m writing all the email addys down on paper along side the name of each organization. When I write the email to the action center, I want to make it divided so the contact list can be copied and pasted without the names of the orgs. With commas, right? lol or would someone prefer semi-colons?

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murphy 01.03.09 at 2:37 pm

btw, we have a lead for SOS Team but still need more members — come on and sign up — the more the merrier for this task — it’s mostly a surfing/collecting/linking type team.

Yes, kat in your hat, i AM looking at you.

send an email to actioncenter@pumapac.org

be sure to include the email address you want to use for team purposes (ie, one you are willing/able to share with the other team members).

and thank you!

Dwp, any updates on volunteers?

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HP Boston 01.03.09 at 2:37 pm

and yep, the first couple times I thought I had imagined it or it was an accident. and of course I was embarrassed and didnt tell anyone.

______________________________________

I plotted my next move for when it happened again and figured I had lethal weapons on my feet and a 140 lbs of pressure!

bbl

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DancesWithPumas 01.03.09 at 2:37 pm

77 NewOrleansPuma
I am to add/use the address from which you sent your request… even though your email seems to imply something else. Okay. Done. Thanks.

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mountainsong 01.03.09 at 2:41 pm

murphy 01.03.09 at 2:33 pm I still would like to hear what you think of grant writing.
Excerpt from:

http://www.bikesbelong.org/node/32

“Companies and corporations are prohibited from contributing to political action committees, however, as a nonprofit 501c6 trade association for the bicycle industry, the Bikes Belong Coalition is allowed to establish and operate a political action committee”

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murphy 01.03.09 at 2:41 pm

Tilly F #46, welcome!

got a link?

;-)

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mountainsong 01.03.09 at 2:42 pm

It would be funny, and great, to solicit a huge contribution from OPRAH!!! hahahahaha

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MKfromLA 01.03.09 at 2:43 pm

#80 mountainsong 01.03.09 at 2:36 pm

mountainsong, you are creating a list for our outreach project and you will send it to the Action Center, right?
————-

Yes, that is why Im doing it. You or Dances asked me to do it last night, so I started it then and I’m still owrking on it now. First, I’m writing all the email addys down on paper along side the name of each organization. When I write the email to the action center, I want to make it divided so the contact list can be copied and pasted without the names of the orgs. With commas, right? lol or would someone prefer semi-colons?

~ ~ ~ ~

Bless you. As long as you send an organized list to our lovely Action Center actioncenter@pumapac.org then we will take it from there. We have no prejudice and favor neither commas nor semicolons nor even tabs.

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pa dem 01.03.09 at 2:46 pm

If the SOS team is about stopping the media’s sexism, I’m all for that. :-) After the new year, I should be able to handle being on two teams.

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Boston Boomer 01.03.09 at 2:50 pm

HP Boston and Murphy,

Good for you!! After reading some of those links Murphy posted, I’m starting to have flashbacks to other incidents. And that story in the Boston Globe was mindblowing for me. You mean street harrassment is actually a crime now. When I was in junior high school, my friends and I couldn’t just take a walk without having older guys drive up and yell out “want a ride?” and lots worse. And you couldn’t walk past a construction site without preparing yourself for the whistles and commentary on your body. I guess we’ve at least made some progress from those days (early ’60s) when you were just expected to accept it as your lot as a female. It’s actually nice sometimes to be an older woman and therefore invisible.

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DancesWithPumas 01.03.09 at 2:50 pm

pa dem
Excellent! Send email with team name and your blog name in the subject line. Send from an email address you’re willing to share with your team.
Thanks!
actioncenter@pumapac.org

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mountainsong 01.03.09 at 2:53 pm

“SOMETIMES THERE IS A WATERSHED MOMENT IN HISTORY WHEN IT BECOMES CLEAR THAT THINGS MUST CHANGE AND LEADERS MUST ACT. THAT MOMENT IS NOW FOR THE WOMEN OF THIS COUNTRY.”

http://www.vfa.us/

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mountainsong 01.03.09 at 3:01 pm

For some incredible, informative reading:
http://www.vfa.us/

This list could take awhile. I get caught up reading on the sites.

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mountainsong 01.03.09 at 3:05 pm

Boston Boomer 01.03.09 at 2:50 pm I have to confess: One night last summer, at the club I go dancing at, I broke a guy’s wrist who grabbed my boob. The second time he did it, I used a martial art move on his hand. It hurt and he screamed at me that I was a f’n bi*ch and c**t, so I just applied more pressure til it snapped. Sometimes I feel guilty about it…and sometimes I don’t.

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murphy 01.03.09 at 3:09 pm

TOTALLY off topic, but today’s Captain Obvious Award goes to the headline writer for this NYT story:

Region’s Poets Convey a Sense of Place

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/04/nyregion/long-island/04Rpoets.html?_r=1

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DeadGirl 01.03.09 at 3:12 pm

Boston Boomer 01.03.09 at 2:50 pm

I was reading that site and here too Boston Boomer, and I had a flashback to a crowded green line train where I got on at Park Street and this young AA dude got himself crushed up against me and started trying to grab my crotch, when I moved away he started to stroke himself off… and I jumped off at Govt. Center. If I could have carried spray or a tazer legally in MA that guy would have been sprayed or had his dick zapped or both…

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VTcat 01.03.09 at 3:15 pm

mountainsong #93: Don’t feel guilty. He assaulted you and got what he deserved. I’d be willing to bet he thought more than twice before trying it again with another woman. Good for you!

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taggles1 01.03.09 at 3:16 pm

When I was eighteen or so, me and my girlfriends were driving down to the Cape.

This car kept speeding up and slowing down trying to keep pace with us.

Finally he sped past, masturbating out the drivers side window.

There are some sicko’s out there.

Don’t even ask me about the sick fuckers on the beach.

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SadStateOfAffairs 01.03.09 at 3:19 pm

DWP,

I’m gonna be out and about today, if you want to give me the location of the Billboard, I’ll photograph for you and email to you if you’d like.

Also if you all have a minute please digg this video you’ve posted.

http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/Wh…_and_Misogyny#

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TrishfromCanada 01.03.09 at 3:20 pm

I found this on a hate crime website for Illinois, thought you all might find it interesting:

Did you know that…

…victims of crimes motivated by bias are three times more likely to require hospitalization than victims of other crimes, as they are more violent and severe?
…perpetrators of these crimes are usually young males, under 26, who act in groups of two or more? They usually are not associated with an organized hate group.
…over 50 percent of reported hate crime in Chicago is racial in nature, most involving African Americans as victims? Hate crimes against lesbians and gay men, and religious and ethnic minorities comprise a sizable, but smaller percentage.
…most hate crimes are not reported? Lack of knowledge of the law on the part of victims and law enforcement officials is the primary reason for the vast undercount.
…bigoted language alone is not a hate crime? However, if a person’s language creates a reasonable fear of imminent harm, this person’s actions may constitute a crime.
Have you ever…

…had a house, car or place of worship vandalized with a swastika or other bigoted graffiti?
…been physically attacked because of your race or ethnicity?
…been sexually assaulted or threatened because of your gender or perceived sexual orientation?
If so, you might have been the target of a HATE CRIME.

Source: http://www.clccrul.org/projects/project_to_combat_bias_violence/what_is_a_hate_crime.htm

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TerryDo 01.03.09 at 3:24 pm

mountainsong 01.03.09 at 2:53 pm

“SOMETIMES THERE IS A WATERSHED MOMENT IN HISTORY WHEN IT BECOMES CLEAR THAT THINGS MUST CHANGE AND LEADERS MUST ACT. THAT MOMENT IS NOW FOR THE WOMEN OF THIS COUNTRY.”

http://www.vfa.us/
*******************************

Mountainsong, bravo!, you are accumulating wonderful sites and after a week of all of us Pumas, exploring, seeking and fetching the WWW, we will have a wonderful reference library compliments of the PUMAbear MKfromLA and are never ending ring master DanceswithPumas who keeps it all in the air.. And of course Murphy with her magical whip! :)

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DancesWithPumas 01.03.09 at 3:27 pm

I commuted on the NYC subway to get to my high school. Ugh. But, I’ll never forget this one man. My height, latino. He stood there, eyes focussed on the ceiling of the subway car, arms across his chest… one hand on each of his shoulders. There was no way he was going to be acussed of groping. I appreciated it because I didn’t have to wonder or waste energy on any tension.

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SadStateOfAffairs 01.03.09 at 3:27 pm

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PUMAbear 01.03.09 at 3:28 pm

Murphy,and pumas,
I was soooooo impressed with the hollaback New York web site and focus that I posted our URL there and asked if they would like to join our blogroll. (Maybe a bit presumptuous, as this is Murphy’s blog)But these young women have it goin’on! What a great outreach to young women where the emphasis also needs to be.

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DancesWithPumas 01.03.09 at 3:28 pm

SadStateOfAffairs 01.03.09 at 3:19 pm [edit]
DWP, I’m gonna be out and about today, if you want to give me the location of the Billboard, I’ll photograph for you and email to you if you’d like
——————-
Are we neighbors??

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SadStateOfAffairs 01.03.09 at 3:32 pm

I believe we are!

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NewOrleansPuma 01.03.09 at 3:33 pm

83Dances: I was not clear obviously in that email to you. I was talking about something that does not happen anyway!
I am sorry, Dances. Yes. what you have done as you indicate in your post is the email address for sharing with the Legislative Watch Team Members. Thank you!

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mountainsong 01.03.09 at 3:33 pm

Zonta: http://www.zonta.org/site/PageServer?pagename=zi_issues_programs#funding
Funding Guidelines
The Zonta International Foundation does not accept unsolicited proposals or requests for funding.

Grantmaking Policy
The Zonta International Foundation supports projects that address the education, health and economic advancement of women or prevent violence against women, implemented primarily by United Nations agencies or recognized international non-governmental organizations.

Fellowships, Scholarships and Awards
The Zonta International Foundation provides financial aid in the form of fellowships, scholarships and awards to women and girls for specific academic and leadership development pursuits. Qualified individuals are encouraged to apply for these opportunities.

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mountainsong 01.03.09 at 3:37 pm

I shoud copy/paste that site somewhere. I am frequently a ‘victim’ of hate crimes, until they lay hands on me~~then it’s their turn to play ‘victim’.

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mountainsong 01.03.09 at 3:37 pm

TrishfromCanada 01.03.09 at 3:20 pm ~~~I should copy/paste that site somewhere. I am frequently a ‘victim’ of hate crimes, until they lay hands on me~~then it’s their turn to play ‘victim’.

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DancesWithPumas 01.03.09 at 3:38 pm

SadStateOfAffairs 01.03.09 at 3:32 pm [edit]
I believe we are!
——————
Who are you and where do you live?? lol

I know of only one active Puma in my neighborhood…
although, I have yet to meet him. WHO ARE YOU??? :)

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NewOrleansPuma 01.03.09 at 3:40 pm

50Scarlet: I have read the two testimonies re the Paycheck Act. However, the first link is not a pro act testimony.
It also is against passage of the Act.

Have you found a pro testimony post?

Having read both testimonies and not having read the law, which I would want to do, I would oppose passage of this bill, if both testimonies are accurate to record and logical implication as they seem to be.

Perhaps you could email me when you get the time if you find a pro testimony. In any case, I will wait to hear from you on the matter and will not engage here about it as it can be done by email…Thanks!

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murphy 01.03.09 at 3:41 pm

trish #99 – thank you!

would you post that to the woman lynching forum?

http://pumapac.org/forums/woman-lynching/

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mountainsong 01.03.09 at 3:41 pm

OK, I guess Murphy isn’t going to respond about the grant writing idea. And I think I have this list compiled so now I just gotta get it into the email and sent. BBL

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murphy 01.03.09 at 3:41 pm

well, of course, you already DID!

Trish!

:oops:

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murphy 01.03.09 at 3:43 pm

sorry mountainsong — yes I think grant writing is a great idea, but I’m not sure we have the correct structure yet.

I’m working on that in the background as we speak, and would greatly appreciate any links you have or resources — send them in an email to murphy@pumapac.org?

thanks!

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SadStateOfAffairs 01.03.09 at 3:43 pm

I’m in San Diego. Born and Raised……

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DancesWithPumas 01.03.09 at 3:43 pm

can’t turn your back on Pumas for even a moment.
They got skillz… they got speed. Zoom zoooom!

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PUMAbear 01.03.09 at 3:44 pm

Maybe someone with video or youtube skills could create a video about sexual harassment and assault on the street. It could show how vile words and denigration leads to assault and gives girls and women some idea how to respond to these attacks and how to report them. Hollaback N.Y. would be a great resource. The women’s education team could distribute these to schools.

I guess I really relate to this because of my own odious memories of this type of harrassment that makes a female feel shame and helplessness.
The worst I can remember was going to a produce market with a fellow employee who was very overweight. The workers, 100% male and mostly hispanic followed her through the market whistling and calling her perro and other names to horrible to mention. The jumed on the backs of pick-ups and simulated sex acts with large squashes, etc. Finally, they surrounded her while denigrating her and we had to leave. Got NO help from the boss on this.

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murphy 01.03.09 at 3:46 pm

now THAT’s a horrible story.

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DancesWithPumas 01.03.09 at 3:46 pm

SadStateOfAffairs 01.03.09 at 3:43 pm [edit]
I’m in San Diego. Born and Raised……
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Okay, now your driving me crazy(ier)… I assumed San Diego… didnt think you;d drive in from Topeka to photograph a billboard (unless you used it as an excuse to escape dastardly weather)… WHERE IN SAN DIEGO??
Note: I am a Gemini, and as such, I have a need to KNOW.
Knowing for knowing’s sake. One of my blog names is:
“Infomaniac”!

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murphy 01.03.09 at 3:48 pm

“Feminist icon Gloria Steinem yesterday said Gov. Paterson should appoint Rep. Carolyn Maloney to the Senate – and ask Caroline Kennedy to run for Maloney’s House seat instead of the Senate.”

http://www.nypost.com/seven/01032009/news/politics/steinem_touts_kennedy_for_ny_seat___in_h_147003.htm

(this actually is ON topic, as Carolyn Maloney has been virtually DISAPPEARED from media coverage, even though she should be being presented as one of the two most qualified and worthy candidates. Kirsten Gillebrand being the other. Oh and Harriet Christian too!)

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NewOrleansPuma 01.03.09 at 3:50 pm

Mountainsong: I know a lot about ZONTA. It is I think the olde

st ongoing group supporting women’s issues in the world, begun in the early 20th century. Local chapters are organized all over the world and these chapters are very active regarding certain issues. A friend has been Pres etc of a chapter here and has been in it for years. Cross section of Professional women and ages..as well as political views.
They do here active fundraising to fund a scholarship for a woman at local university here. ..and other things.

Just thought I would mention that.

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SadStateOfAffairs 01.03.09 at 3:51 pm

DancesWithPumas 01.03.09 at 3:46 pm
Note: I am a Gemini, and as such, I have a need to KNOW.
************
Well that makes 4 of us! lol
I’m thinking the Billboard is in Hillcrest…..no?
Without disclosing my exact locale, I’m about 10-15 minutes from there.

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Boston Boomer 01.03.09 at 3:52 pm

Oh God, we all probably have horrible stories like that. Mountainsong, if you ask me, the guy deserved it. I’ll bet he wasn’t so quick to grab someone’s boob after his wrist finally healed.

Dead Girl and Taggles, how ghastly! Every one of those men should have their pictures posted in public, labeled “street harrasser” or “subway molester.”

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NewOrleansPuma 01.03.09 at 3:54 pm

Murphy: That is the most practical thing I have heard Steinem say in years! At least it recognizes, somewhat, a hierarchy of work and qualifications rather than simply the Kennedy name.

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DancesWithPumas 01.03.09 at 3:57 pm

SadStateOfAffairs 01.03.09 at 3:51 pm [edit]

DancesWithPumas 01.03.09 at 3:46 pm
Note: I am a Gemini, and as such, I have a need to KNOW.
************
Well that makes 4 of us! lol
I’m thinking the Billboard is in Hillcrest…..no?
Without disclosing my exact locale, I’m about 10-15 minutes from there.
—————
Oh, whew. Then, as a Gemini, you really do understand!!
I’m about a block half from the billboard. I think I’ll go take that photo right now. If you send your email address to actioncenter@pumapac.org I’ll send a copy to you when I send to Murphy.
And, thank you so much for your offer to photograph it for me!!

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NewOrleansPuma 01.03.09 at 3:59 pm

95DeadGirl: See how useful it would have been to have had an old time hat pin with you then?

“Oh, I am so sorry…you bumped into my hat pin…you sick sucker!”

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DancesWithPumas 01.03.09 at 4:00 pm

PS I was going to use that camera battery fully charged or not… and just now when I went to check it was fully charged! Yippie!

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NewOrleansPuma 01.03.09 at 4:02 pm

Carolyn Mahoney “disappearing from coverage” says to me that she may have concluded, having been told so by the current Dems in charge of this debacle, that it would be better if she backed off. Cuomo has not said anything, either, for example, I imagine.

Ok…I have to go back to research. BBL

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turndownobama 01.03.09 at 4:02 pm

#14 NewOrleansPuma 01.03.09 at 12:29 pm

I am going to each blog listed on our site as well as those at the Pumasphere and am collecting some information regarding cross references of blogs on sites and the activitiy or not going on on the various blogs.

I am also periodically making comments on some of the less active blogs regarding what we are doing here.

=======================

Great idea! I suppose you’re also using dailypuma.com as a checklist of all the good blogs there are (well, they do lack a few).

Imo one of the most important things we can do is promote DailyPuma.com As well as being a central hub for our own blogs, they need help to get linked at MSM sites that already link to Kos, Hufpo, etc.

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DeadGirl 01.03.09 at 4:13 pm

New Orleans, I am googling HAT PIN write now ;) even though I no longer take a subway if I can help it. After years of a 6 hour a day commute, the most horrendous part it being the Green and Red Lines in Boston, I now have a ten minute commute by bus!!! And I set my hours at work so that I am in very early and out by 3 or 4, all outside of commuter hours when everything gets jam packed! (and my ten minute commute becomes 25 minutes)

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DeadGirl 01.03.09 at 4:15 pm

Hah, they call them stick pins!

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Illinois Indy Woman 01.03.09 at 4:20 pm

After 8 years in the corporate world, struggling to move up that ladder that no woman had climbed before, I filed a complaint with the U.S. Department of Labor. I experienced numerous sexual descrimination comments and situations but just tried to deal with them. It was then when I found out I was being paid $8,000 less than my male counterpart, I just counldn’t take anymore and quit. I filed suit for “Equal Pay” under the Fair Labor Standards Act. Get this one, I was not ALLOWED to attend my own hearing. In the end I was offerred my job back and told I could file an independant suit against the company. T

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roofingbird 01.03.09 at 4:21 pm

Nah -DeadGirl stickpins were for holding ties and cravats in place or as brooches. They weren’t as long either. Hatpins were about 4-6 ling and are collectibles.

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Tilly F 01.03.09 at 4:22 pm

RE Elizabeth Janeway at #46:I came across her in college; since then, read Bernstein’s obit of her in WaPo 1/18/05. also http://www.spiritus-temporis.com

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roofingbird 01.03.09 at 4:22 pm

“long”

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roofingbird 01.03.09 at 4:28 pm

In fact, for anyone who has a great grandmother’s vanity set, that long thing with holes that looks like shaker for powder, might really be a hat pin holder.

http://www.tias.com/4714/PictPage/1922154281.html

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taggles1 01.03.09 at 4:37 pm

EVA MENDES – MENDES BLASTS ‘SEXIST’ CAT-FIGHTING RUMOURS

Hollywood actress EVA MENDES has accused America’s film industry of sexism, complaining that male actors never have to deal with rumours of feuding with same-sex co-stars.
Mendes stars alongside fellow Hollywood sirens Scarlett Johansson, Jaime King and Paz Vega in Frank Miller’s dark comic movie The Spirit.
But despite the number of A-list actresses on-set, there was no tension amongst the cast – and the star is fed up with fending off misogynistic rumours of cat-fighting behind the scenes.
She says, “I know how people like to believe that, but it’s a very sexist way of thinking. Nobody ever asks that when men work together in an ensemble cast. I’ve been in the business 10 years and I’ve never had a negative situation with another actress – ever.”

http://www.contactmusic.com/news.nsf/article/mendes%20blasts%20sexist%20cat-fighting%20rumours_1090657

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mountainsong 01.03.09 at 4:43 pm

murphy 01.03.09 at 3:43 pm Sure, I’ll get on it as soon as I finish this list. No,wait! I still haven’t had breakfast, brushed my teeth, etc.
This is a long list.

NOP, thanks for sharing about Zonta. I plan to learn more about them as I pursue Grant info.

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mountainsong 01.03.09 at 4:45 pm

taggles1 01.03.09 at 4:37 pm Eva is too busy with Tony Parker to have neg situations with coworkers. LOL

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taggles1 01.03.09 at 4:47 pm

I don’t even know who she is. and who is tony parker?

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goofsmom 01.03.09 at 4:51 pm

taggles1

Don’t feel bad, I don’t either! I think it’s because we have been so focused… ;)

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brad mays 01.03.09 at 5:05 pm

dwp: “It’s beyond time to start thinning the herd…
I’m going to support the draft and any war the US wants to get into… if nothing else, it’s a start.”

now THAT’S funny.

Dances, Darragh -

I really wish you wouldn’t go there. My son, an eight year Marine, went to Iraq on George W. Bush’s orders. I was with him on the phone the night before he deployed. He actually wept, afraid he’s never see his wife and child again.

That’s NOT funny.

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mountainsong 01.03.09 at 5:11 pm

Nope, that’s NOT funny.

Eva Mendez is a hottie actress (?) married to Tony Parker an NBA Star. (Spurs, I think)

Ok, list is done and in the mail. I’ll start looking into info on grants after I eat breakfast and clean up, ok?

I’m gonna lock the blog so I don’t have to play catchup when I get back. (I wish) Prolly be 2 more thread changes by then.

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VTcat 01.03.09 at 5:12 pm

I apologize in advance if this is too off-topic but thought some might find it interesting:

Reid pressured Blagojevich not to appoint Jackson Jr. to Obama’s U.S. Senate seat

SENATE PICK | Reid reportedly made it clear he didn’t want Jackson, Davis or Jones to be appointed, fearing they’d lose to a GOP opponent in a future election

January 2, 2009
BY NATASHA KORECKI, CHRIS FUSCO AND LYNN SWEET
Days before Gov. Blagojevich was charged with trying to sell President-elect Barack Obama’s U.S. Senate seat to the highest bidder, top Senate Democrat Harry Reid made it clear who he didn’t want in the post: Jesse Jackson, Jr., Danny Davis or Emil Jones.
Rather, Reid called Blagojevich to argue he appoint either state Veterans Affairs chief Tammy Duckworth or Illinois Attorney General Lisa Madigan, sources told the Chicago Sun-Times.
Sources say the Senate majority leader pushed against Jackson and Davis — both democratic congressmen from Illinois — and against Jones — the Illinois Senate president who is the political godfather of President-elect Barack Obama — because he did not believe the three men were electable. He feared losing the seat to a Republican in a future election.
Blagojevich spokesman Lucio Guerrero confirmed that Reid (D-Nev.) and U.S. Sen. Robert Menendez (D-N.J.) — the new chief of the Senate Democratic political operation — each called Blagojevich’s campaign office separately Dec. 3. Sources believe that at least portions of the phone conversations are on tape.
Before their contacts, Obama’s chief of staff Rahm Emanuel called Blagojevich to tell him to expect to hear from Senate leadership because they were pushing against Jackson and others, according to statements the governor made to others.
The Reid-Menendez calls came a day before a Dec. 4 conversation overheard on government wiretaps where Blagojevich says he “was getting ‘a lot of pressure’ not to appoint Candidate 5.” Candidate 5 is Jackson.
The calls reveal the varying forces directed at Blagojevich as he weighed the appointment.
Duckworth is the wounded Iraq war veteran who was tapped by Blagojevich for the state post after she lost a House race in 2006. Duckworth’s entry in the House contest was championed by U.S. Sen. Dick Durbin (D-Ill.) with her campaign assisted by Emanuel, who was running the House political operation at the time, and Obama. David Axelrod, Obama’s chief presidential campaign strategist, was Duckworth’s media consultant for her House race.
Madigan is supported by her powerful father Illinois Speaker of the House Michael Madigan.
A Jackson spokesman said the congressman believes he could attain statewide support.
“Congressman Jackson was encouraged that two independent statewide polls confirmed that he was the most popular Democrat to succeed Barack,” Jackson spokesman Rick Bryant said. “The polls also showed he was in a strong position to win reelection in 2010, drawing strong support from virtually every demographic group.”
Jim Manley, spokesman for Reid, acknowledged Friday that Reid called Blagojevich as well as other governors who had Senate vacancies in their respective states.
“Of course Sen. Reid spoke to the governor of Illinois — just as he spoke to the governors of New York and Colorado when senators from those states accepted jobs in the new administration,’’ Manley said. “It is part of his job as majority leader to share his thoughts about candidates who have the qualities needed to succeed in the Senate.”
Reid declined to reveal the specific names discussed, saying he didn’t want to embarrass anyone.
Though Menendez did talk with Blagojevich about the appointment, he “did not suggest any names and he did not discourage the appointment of anyone,’’ said Matt Miller, a spokesman for the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee which Menendez chairs.
Blagojevich was arrested Dec. 9 on charges he tried to sell Obama’s vacant seat in exchange for campaign funds, a job or ambassadorship.
On Tuesday, he appointed former Illinois Attorney General Roland Burris to the post.
Reid, as well as other Senators, have vowed to block the move. At a news conference naming Burris, U.S. Rep. Bobby Rush (D-Ill.) told reporters he backed Burris because it was important that an African American hold a post in the U.S. Senate.
An Obama transition team spokeswoman would not comment, referring reporters to a report released by Obama’s transition team before Christmas.
The report did not specify the contact between Emanuel and the governor.
A spokesman for Jones could not be reached for comment. A Davis spokesman declined comment.

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VTcat 01.03.09 at 5:13 pm

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gypsy rebel 01.03.09 at 5:17 pm

Happy New Year PUMAs

It is Eva Longoria and Tony Parker – San Antonio Spurs (basketball)

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murphy 01.03.09 at 5:23 pm

brad #143, nope, you’re wrong, it IS funny.

context is everything.

many of our members are themselves veterans, mothers of veterans, sisters, daughters, and wives of veterans.
antifish served in Desert Storm.
Riverdaughter’s brother has done at lest two tours in Iraq since 9/11.
My nephew, 19 years old, will be deployed to some mortally dangerous location as soon as he graduates from King’s Point.
Every man in my family is a veteran. My father in law is a Naval Academy grad and retired as a Captain in the Navy before he died of lung cancer exacerbated by 20 years of service in nuclear submarines.

My fondest wish is that my oldest daughter will go to a military academy and serve in one of the branches.

We ALL have stories similar to yours.

Dances line was funny in context — like all humor.

Who said lesbians weren’t funny?

(oops! who’s offended? raise your hand!)

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brad mays 01.03.09 at 5:29 pm

murphy -

Edgy humor. VERY FUCKING EDGY. I accept that. I’m glad you expanded on it. I’m still uncomfortable with it. I don’t particularly like it. But how can a fan of Michael O’Donnahue argue against attempts at subversive humor?

My God, I really AM a liberal. Whew!

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DancesWithPumas 01.03.09 at 5:30 pm

My sister was in Desert Storm and Iraq. My nephew is in Iraq.

Aside from that… “what if they gave a war and nobody came?” I don’t understand what people are thinking when they join the military. The one thing all members of the armed services have in common is: they have weapons and are trained to kill.
Anyone who expects the military to be just a fast track to citizenship, early retirement, or a lifetime of benefits, is fooling themselves, and probably shouldn;t be there in the first place.

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KarenWI 01.03.09 at 5:34 pm

Mountainsong : I saw downstairs where you heard a voice saying “this is what is meant to be” or something like that… and you interpreted it to mean what you’d “seen” a few years ago is coming true. I may have missed it, but I didn’t see where anyone seriously asked you what you HAD “seen” a few years ago that is coming true now?

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TrishfromCanada 01.03.09 at 5:36 pm

brad mays 01.03.09 at 5:29 pm

Does your discomfort start when your buddies over at rumproast stated their dislike to Dances and Murphy’s conversation.

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murphy 01.03.09 at 5:38 pm

just in time!

The Golden Rule posted,

take it upstairs!

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mountainsong 01.03.09 at 5:41 pm

Ok, I stand corrected about Eva Longoria ( Heck, I don’t watch those girls). And, in a way, Dances comment is funny.
It’s so humbling to admit when I’m wrong.

KarenWI 01.03.09 at 5:34 pm Well, it’s a personal thing and has to do with what direction I would take in my life. For a very long time I didn’t understand exactly what the vision meant. And my spiritual elder just said I would ‘know’ when it was time to know.

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KarenWI 01.03.09 at 5:46 pm

Mountainsong, just read how you broke that guy’s wrist. Betcha he went and told a tall tale to his buddies about how it got broken! Hmmm… wonder what he would’a said? I rather DOUBT he told them the truth! After all, that woulda hurt worse than the broken wrist! LOL!

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scarlet 01.03.09 at 5:56 pm

Illinois Indy Woman 01.03.09 at 4:20 pm
After 8 years in the corporate world, struggling to move up that ladder that no woman had climbed before, I filed a complaint with the U.S. Department of Labor. I experienced numerous sexual descrimination comments and situations but just tried to deal with them. It was then when I found out I was being paid $8,000 less than my male counterpart, I just counldn’t take anymore and quit. I filed suit for “Equal Pay” under the Fair Labor Standards Act. Get this one, I was not ALLOWED to attend my own hearing. In the end I was offerred my job back and told I could file an independant suit against the company. T
———–

I have never worked outside the home, but have talked to some women who have. One woman who works for a bank was told by her superior not to tell anyone how much she made. I hear the same thing from other women. So, how is a woman to know if she is being paid equally with others under the Equal Pay Act? I think that is the flaw in the law.

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brad mays 01.03.09 at 6:00 pm

TrishfromCanada -

the rumproast people are not my buddies. If you would take a moment to read what I said there, maybe you wouldn’t find it necessary to attack someone who means you no harm.

Are you and I enemies? Did I miss something?

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TrishfromCanada 01.03.09 at 6:12 pm

brad mays 01.03.09 at 6:00 pm

We are not enemies, I was taken aback that you offered Kevin, who runs rumproast, a copy of the dvd so that he can be one of the first to view it. And anyone else over there that would like a copy. Kevin! who has a team of yo-yo’s copy and paste and stalk this blog like a bunch of loons looking for fault in what is said here. On any blog out there if you stalk it 24 hours a day, you will find fault, so when you offer the dvd, as a Puma I take great offence to that.

Did i miss the offer you made here to Puma’s for an early release dvd?

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brad mays 01.03.09 at 6:21 pm

Trishfromcanada -

I am sending a number of people on both side of the issue – Darragh, Sheri Tag, Riverdaughter, Tommy Christopher and KevinK (and several others on the PUMA side) copies of the film for them to review. I am going to appear on a few blogtalk radio shows after the hosts have seen it. I want them, after all, to have a context for what I hope will be substantive discussions.

There is a larger picture here, and I didn’t make my film as a way of preaching to a choir – any choir.

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brad mays 01.03.09 at 6:25 pm

Trishfromcanada -

“and anyone else over there”

Huh? I’ve only offered KevinK a DVD, no one else at rumproast. And that was for the reasons stated above. I defy you demonstrate otherwise. Oh, and I’ve offered to let Dances’ church do a fundraising screening.

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TrishfromCanada 01.03.09 at 6:46 pm

Kevin –

Well, they should really be directing a lot more of their anger at Hillary’s campaign staff instead of, say, Donna Brazile.

Not sure I agree completely with you on that one. Maybe I should send you guys a copy of my film for review.

Fortunately no one bit that nibbler you tossed out there.
Comment by Brad Mays on 01/01/09 at 10:45 PM

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brad mays 01.03.09 at 6:52 pm

Trishfromcanada -

By “you guys” I mean KevinK, the person who runs the shop. I meant one DVD. Anything else you wish to get off your chest?

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brad mays 01.03.09 at 6:54 pm

oh, and Trishfromcanada -

In the interest of full disclosure, KevinK did e-mail me privately accepting the offer. I don’t understand your hostility, really I don’t.

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TrishfromCanada 01.03.09 at 7:08 pm

Brad,

Perhaps this is where my hostility comes from:

Quote from rumproast…

My beef with Obama? From early on, I responded negatively to what I saw as the evangelical tone of his campaign. I voted for Clinton in the primaries, end of story.

I made a film about Darragh Murphy and PUMA PAC. Caucus fraud is discussed; it’s part of their story. Do I buy into it? I believe that most of the people in the film giving testimonials are telling the truth, from their point of view. What I believe or do not believe on a larger scale I keep to myself, and my personal views are not on display in my film.

When I made my deal with Darragh vis-a-vis the film, I told her up front that I had total artistic and content control. No one has seen the film, not even my wife. Your man Kevin K. will be one of the very first people to see it. {UMA has about as much control over my work as I have over what Kevin K. will have to say about it.

Comment by Brad Mays on 01/03/09 at 05:41 PM

1. You already know that anything PumaPAC does is a joke and an excuse to continue their pitiful meaningless wanker lives over at rumproast. Yet you go in there claiming to get to the bottom of Murphy’s and Dances comments as if you were some knight in shining armour brought in to correct the narrow minded opinions that lot had of us. We don’t give a flying f*ck what they think and neither do we feel a need to explain ourselves to them. And we damn well don’t need any knights.

2. If Murphy is involved in the movie process don’t you think it should have been discussed with her before agreeing to allow Ass R Us to pre-view it. Knowing, as you said, Murphy has not even seen it yet. Perhaps she should see it first before rumproast, tommy etc get their hands on it.

Just more propaganda…

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Illinois Indy Woman 01.03.09 at 7:19 pm

Scarlet 01.03.09 at 5:56

The way I found out and had proof was through the budgeting process. I was promoted and he was hired to replace me. He was having trouble doing his budget and “the boss” (the one that put his hand down my blouse and asked me to go to a hotel with him) asked me to help him out. I spotted the increase and called them on it. You are right, it is a problem. I don’t know what the answer is. I chose to be self employed to be in control of my future.

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brad mays 01.03.09 at 7:27 pm

Trishfromcanada -

“Knowing, as you said, Murphy has not even seen it yet. Perhaps she should see it first before rumproast, tommy etc get their hands on it.”

If Darragh needs to see it before anyone else, she can tell me that herself. What, are you her agent now?

Here’s why I think what I’m doing is a good thing:

It’s only going to hurt the film if it is seen as a PUMA puff piece. From the very beginning, I’ve tried to keep aesthetic and textual objectivity in the piece. People who hate PUMA are going to say what they’re going to say, regardless of what I or anyone else does. But if my film is an HONEST portrayal of what I saw in Texas and Washington D.C. and Chicago and Denver and New York, then it gives everyone – sympathizers and critics alike – a solid place from which to begin discourse.

Now,

If I am seen to be egalitarian in how the film is disseminated in the earliest stages of its exposure to the public, the less time I’m going to have to spend trying to prove to the skeptical that Darragh and PUMA PAC did not, in fact, exert editorial control on the piece.

This all seems obvious, at least to me, on the face of it. Darragh wanted a legitimate and honest filmic portrayal of their activities last summer, and I’m delivering it. I want to reach a wide audience.

Now then, why don’t you just come right out with whatever it is you don’t like about me or my project in plain and direct language? I am not doing anything underhanded, I’m doing everything I’m doing right out in the open. I WANT transparency.

Alternatively, you could always e-mail me privately as others have done when they have questions.

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TrishfromCanada 01.03.09 at 7:41 pm

Brad,

I’ve pretty much covered everything, I feel your answers are full of bullshit but hey life is like that. rump needs the blogs from Puma’s to justify their existence otherwise they’d have nothing to discuss. You need assholes like rump and tommy to promote YOUR documentary, even though Puma donations contributed towards YOUR documentary.

Hope it all works out for you.
good night

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brad mays 01.03.09 at 7:46 pm

Trishromcanada -

Well, THAT was stirring.

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lori 01.03.09 at 7:58 pm

Trish,

The more people buy the documentary, the more money PUMA makes. Do you have a problem with that?

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hillwarrior 01.03.09 at 8:15 pm

I got a call from NOW seeking donations yesterday. The poor guy, probably some random phone volunteer, got a blistering review of the primaries and Palin in the GE re: sexism and NOW’s pathetic silence. He sputtered, and thanked me for his time. The utter cowardice and complicity of “women’s groups” was one of the biggest disappointments of the election season. WHAT do they think they represent?!

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BrianH 01.03.09 at 8:32 pm

NOP, teh-Dancer, Murphy;
I’m in Canada, and not real well positioned to track or comment on US legislation. My overriding interest is to spare the US, and the WORLD, the horrors that Omposter is itching to unleash.

My most recent well-paid vocation, prior to the Dot-Bust in 2001, was online editor. If anyone needs text or documents edited for grammar, syntax, or style, I’m game. No charge for PUMAPAC projects!!

(My resources are very limited, as I’m struggling to survive week-to-week, and am already putting heavy pressure on my time by trying to keep up with the PUMAPAC blog — but it’s so damn addictive, y’know? ;) Lots of nights I don’t get off the site till 5 a.m PST. Not smart for a 62-yr-old insomniac; my sleep cycles are a shambles.)

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mountainsong 01.04.09 at 12:47 am

La Chanson du Cœur, où sont vous ? Je pense à vous ce soir et espère que vous êtes heureux.

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TrishfromCanada 01.04.09 at 12:59 am

lori 01.03.09 at 7:58 pm [edit]

Trish,

The more people buy the documentary, the more money PUMA makes. Do you have a problem with that?

so Brad is selling a copy to Kevin, that’s great, obviously I misunderstood and thought he was giving the cow away for free. geez my apologies. and as Brad asked about my questioning his motives, are you his agent now and he can’t speak for himself?

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mountainsong 01.04.09 at 1:15 am

Is Dances gone?

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mountainsong 01.04.09 at 1:38 am

Our greatest battles are the ones we fight with ourselves. We ARE the mountain we try to conquer.

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BrianH 01.04.09 at 2:45 am

Trish;
I don’t think that Brad gets it, or perhaps knows, just how ignorant and vile much of the commentary on that site has been. It’s beyond the pale, and I rather think he could have found a better (saner) anti-PUMA site or representative.

OTOH, if the documentary is actually objective, it’s going to take a lot of the wind out of rumproast sails. I doubt they can make effective use of factual information.

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oneilma 01.04.09 at 2:30 pm

Let’s get started on some action!

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