Friday Night Surfing

by murphy on January 2, 2009

in 2nd profound question of the day, Action, PROWL, PUMAsphere, Women Who Smoke

PumaBear and MKfromLA need your help! Will you surf the net and bring back goodies? Their Common Cause Action Team is building a Contact List for easy and quick use when we PROWL. This list contains the contact info for people / organizations / blogs /  etc.  It’s a list for all PROWL’s, not one specific prowl.

Do you have any organizations, persons, media, blogs etc which you think should be on our prowl list?

If so, please email them to actioncenter@pumapac.org and make the subject OUTREACH CONTACTS.  In the body of your email, provide your contact & what “common cause” they’re working on – e.g. ERA, Women’s History, Femicide, Election Reform, Campaign Finance Reform, Investigating ACORN, etc.

- no other exceedingly boring work could possibly be more valuable to PUMAPAC!

- use your cutting/pasting skills to build a massive speadsheet!

- harvest the crumbs that fall from other people’s blogs & turn it into PUMA gold!

- verify contact info!

- pay scale equivalent to top ranking Action Center staff!

- bask in the glory of every future PROWL.

No glory, low wages, boring work … that should keep the bots from volunteering!

Surf tonight and join the Puma PAC Common Cause Action Team.

 Yes, Kat In Your Hat, I am looking at you!

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TerryDo 01.02.09 at 9:38 pm

Look how free and happy she looks!

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TerryDo 01.02.09 at 9:40 pm

How do we search their Common Cause Action Team site to see what they have already so we do not duplicate websites?

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DancesWithPumas 01.02.09 at 9:44 pm

Funny! kat in your hat was the first person I thought of when I read the post!

“- pay scale equivalent to top ranking Action Center staff!”
I’m going to help out too, I need the raise.

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kat in your hat 01.02.09 at 9:46 pm

why am I getting called out?…lol…

okey…I shall go click happy. brb.

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murphy 01.02.09 at 9:50 pm

Kat because you are our resident Expert Surfer! you are the woman in the photo above.

We need you!

terryDO — dont worry about duplicating — if you have any links, contact names just send em along.

We can use this comments thread for throwing ideas out there too — tho we are being more cognizant of prying eyes, so be sure to send the actual contact info and web addresses straight to actioncenter@pumapac.org

thanks!

(this is also an open thread, drinks on the house, as per)

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DancesWithPumas 01.02.09 at 9:55 pm

All y’all … gather a bunch and then send to action center… onesies twosies will take forever to open, copy, paste etc. In other words try to consolidate the gems before sending to actioncenter@pumapac.org

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mountainsong 01.02.09 at 9:57 pm

DancesWithPumas Ok, I sent my email addy.

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mountainsong 01.02.09 at 9:59 pm

murphy 01.02.09 at 9:50 pm Geez, all that FREE booze!!! And I can’t have any.

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admin 01.02.09 at 9:59 pm

p.s. if you click on the picture above, you will get to the original publication of that image. It’s not a “hotlink” (i think) which nijma informs me is bad netiquette. I uploaded the image to my site and posted it from my hosting service. I added a link to the earlier publication so people can follow the provenance.

there doesnt seem to be “credit” for the above photo per se, though I may be wrong.

From now on, any image that is not an original from one of our members will include a link to where I found it, with credit to the artist if I can find it.

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DancesWithPumas 01.02.09 at 10:00 pm

mountainsong 01.02.09 at 9:59 pm [edit]
murphy 01.02.09 at 9:50 pm Geez, all that FREE booze!!! And I can’t have any.
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Same here….BUT, grab as much as you can. One word:
RESALE! ;)

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TerryDo 01.02.09 at 10:01 pm

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mountainsong 01.02.09 at 9:38 pm
TerryDo 01.02.09 at 9:21 pm Hi, hey~~~did you read Dance’s post? She suggested I do the Committee on Sexism in Media, and also as a sub-com with ERA. Which I’m happy to do.
But it’s a extremely daunting challenge. Everyone ( I think) like (loves) SEX!!! Changing attitudes about sex that allow for respect of women and still be a good thing isn’t gonna happen overnight.
Anyway, I’ll help however I can.

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Mountainsong, what is the difference between women not having equal rights and sexism? NONE!

One definition of sexism is: Discriminatory or abusive behavior towards members of the opposite sex.

By not giving women equal rights under the Constitution that is discriminatory and by fighting against this just cause is abusive behavior towards women.

And I believe that until this long past history of discriminatory and abusive behavior is ratified, women will not feel equal and free, to actually scream, ‘Hey, you’re stepping on my toes, without apologizing first’.

It is our job as Wise Older Women to fight for women’s rights, to teach them how to respect themselves and other women; only then will there be an end to sexism because we will have demanded it in all levels of society.
But like everything else it always begins with our own attitudes, or is that just an old cliché

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MKfromLA 01.02.09 at 10:02 pm

Thank you Murphy & thanks in advance to all Friday night surfers.

Here’s what the spreadsheet has now:
- a placeholder for every senator from all 50 states
- a placeholder for every representative from all 50 states.
- we are putting names/email addys/websites/snailmail/phone/fax for the above into the spreadsheet so you don’t need to do that

- we have some blogs & websites relevant to ERA actions. We have their websites.

Here’s the fun part – that’s what we need you to do

Surf the PUMA blogosphere. Go to the sites on the right sidebar.

Get contact info including:
- url for the blog
- email address
- person name if there is a contact person
- phone/fax info
* * * * what causes do we have in common with them? ERA? Birth Certificate? Femicide? Whatever, just name it & email to the Action center

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Zee 01.02.09 at 10:04 pm

I’ve been meaning to pose this question and this seems like the time and thread to do so:

would PUMAs be interested in a list of other causes we might be interested in joining?

You know, stuff we can’t spread ourselves too thin promoting but a place for links to groups some of us might want to get more involved with as well?

eg, someone here posted something on the constitutionality of road blocks, and I posted a link to an animal rights group.

Would an extra-curricular database be too much here?

I’m thinking along the lines of groups that aren’t exactly “like minded” with us, but which are dedicated to causes *some* PUMAs might be very much interested in.

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DancesWithPumas 01.02.09 at 10:05 pm

wow… the first paragraph on the source of that surfer:

“Wednesday, January 02, 2008
With All of this Talk About Equality…

Maybe the UCI, the international governing body of cycling, made a New Year’s resolution to equally compensate women professional athletes in prize money… but most likely they didn’t.”

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MKfromLA 01.02.09 at 10:06 pm

Besides the PUMA blogosphere, we also need you to get contact info for any of our “causes”

We need all the above info for these other “common causes” …

LGBT issues

FEC federal election commission

Birth Certificate verification

ACORN

Women’s History & Curriculum

Every project that’s going on now in the current team & project list that you will find in our lovely Action Center

http://pumapac.org/teams.html

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mountainsong 01.02.09 at 10:06 pm

Here is a good one. I Don’t know ifwe already have a list of colleges, especially Womens’ colleges, but with Womens’ Studies curricuums.
Seems like a good place for the disemination (do I like that word?) of information.

http://www.womenscolleges.org/

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PUMAbear 01.02.09 at 10:07 pm

Someone will contact each blog admin and tell them our plan to combine forces on certain actions and see who says yes. I suppose we’ll also have to reciprocate. But the pumasphere must be interconnected.

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DancesWithPumas 01.02.09 at 10:10 pm

Murohy
From now on, any image that is not an original from one of our members will include a link to where I found it, with credit to the artist if I can find it.
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You’re making me cry … again.

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MKfromLA 01.02.09 at 10:10 pm

Close your eyes & imagine….. (after you read this)

YOU are the lead on a big prowl. You have all the research done. You need PUMAPAC to reach out! Get the word out! It must go to the MSM! Word must reach the talking heads! But you’ve been heads down researching your prowl.

How do you now develop the list of who to send the prowl to????

Why, your lovely Action Center will supply that to you. Just pick from the common cause menu, and the list is in your email inbox.

OK, now close your eyes & imagine.

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DancesWithPumas 01.02.09 at 10:12 pm

((((((((((MKinLA and PumaBear)))))))))
Fan-freakin-tastic!!!!!!!!!!!!

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PUMAbear 01.02.09 at 10:12 pm

A couple of days ago I asked a question at Femisex regarding the inadequate responses of so called women’s organizations to the Rick Warren invocation outrage. She gave me a lengthy and detailed response which I thought smoked. I posted it but nobody made a response either on this blog or on hers. This can get quite discouraging to people who do extensive research and spend loads of time.

If some of you would go to the Femisex website and make a response it would show an attitude of sisterhood.

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PUMAbear 01.02.09 at 10:15 pm

femisex is on the right sidebar blogroll.

Thanks.

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DancesWithPumas 01.02.09 at 10:17 pm

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Casper Cat 01.02.09 at 10:18 pm

Here’s some history of infor…Living the Legacy:
The Women’s Rights Movement 1848 – 1998

Introduction Revolution Declaration Convention Backlash Expansion
Vote Won! Second Wave New Issues ERA Complex Issues 1998

“Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it’s the only thing that ever has.” That was Margaret Mead’s conclusion after a lifetime of observing very diverse cultures around the world. Her insight has been borne out time and again throughout the development of this country of ours. Being allowed to live life in an atmosphere of religious freedom, having a voice in the government you support with your taxes, living free of lifelong enslavement by another person. These beliefs about how life should and must be lived were once considered outlandish by many. But these beliefs were fervently held by visionaries whose steadfast work brought about changed minds and attitudes. Now these beliefs are commonly shared across U.S. society.

Another initially outlandish idea that has come to pass: United States citizenship for women. 1998 marked the 150th Anniversary of a movement by women to achieve full civil rights in this country. Over the past seven generations, dramatic social and legal changes have been accomplished that are now so accepted that they go unnoticed by people whose lives they have utterly changed. Many people who have lived through the recent decades of this process have come to accept blithely what has transpired. And younger people, for the most part, can hardly believe life was ever otherwise. They take the changes completely in stride, as how life has always been.

The staggering changes for women that have come about over those seven generations in family life, in religion, in government, in employment, in education – these changes did not just happen spontaneously. Women themselves made these changes happen, very deliberately. Women have not been the passive recipients of miraculous changes in laws and human nature. Seven generations of women have come together to affect these changes in the most democratic ways: through meetings, petition drives, lobbying, public speaking, and nonviolent resistance. They have worked very deliberately to create a better world, and they have succeeded hugely.

Throughout 1998, the 150th anniversary of the Women’s Rights Movement is being celebrated across the nation with programs and events taking every form imaginable. Like many amazing stories, the history of the Women’s Rights Movement began with a small group of people questioning why human lives were being unfairly constricted.
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A Tea Launches a Revolution
The Women’s Rights Movement marks July 13, 1848 as its beginning. On that sweltering summer day in upstate New York, a young housewife and mother, Elizabeth Cady Stanton, was invited to tea with four women friends. When the course of their conversation turned to the situation of women, Stanton poured out her discontent with the limitations placed on her own situation under America’s new democracy. Hadn’t the American Revolution had been fought just 70 years earlier to win the patriots freedom from tyranny? But women had not gained freedom even though they’d taken equally tremendous risks through those dangerous years. Surely the new republic would benefit from having its women play more active roles throughout society. Stanton’s friends agreed with her, passionately. This was definitely not the first small group of women to have such a conversation, but it was the first to plan and carry out a specific, large-scale program.

Today we are living the legacy of this afternoon conversation among women friends. Throughout 1998, events celebrating the 150th Anniversary of the Women’s Rights Movement are looking at the massive changes these women set in motion when they daringly agreed to convene the world’s first Women’s Rights Convention.

Within two days of their afternoon tea together, this small group had picked a date for their convention, found a suitable location, and placed a small announcement in the Seneca County Courier. They called “A convention to discuss the social, civil, and religious condition and rights of woman.” The gathering would take place at the Wesleyan Chapel in Seneca Falls on July 19 and 20, 1848.

In the history of western civilization, no similar public meeting had ever been called.
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A “Declaration of Sentiments” is Drafted
These were patriotic women, sharing the ideal of improving the new republic. They saw their mission as helping the republic keep its promise of better, more egalitarian lives for its citizens. As the women set about preparing for the event, Elizabeth Cady Stanton used the Declaration of Independence as the framework for writing what she titled a “Declaration of Sentiments.” In what proved to be a brilliant move, Stanton connected the nascent campaign for women’s rights directly to that powerful American symbol of liberty. The same familiar words framed their arguments: “We hold these truths to be self-evident; that all men and women are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain inalienable rights; that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.”

In this Declaration of Sentiments, Stanton carefully enumerated areas of life where women were treated unjustly. Eighteen was precisely the number of grievances America’s revolutionary forefathers had listed in their Declaration of Independence from England.

Stanton’s version read, “The history of mankind is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations on the part of man toward woman, having in direct object the establishment of an absolute tyranny over her. To prove this, let facts be submitted to a candid world.” Then it went into specifics:

Married women were legally dead in the eyes of the law
Women were not allowed to vote
Women had to submit to laws when they had no voice in their formation
Married women had no property rights
Husbands had legal power over and responsibility for their wives to the extent that they could imprison or beat them with impunity
Divorce and child custody laws favored men, giving no rights to women
Women had to pay property taxes although they had no representation in the levying of these taxes
Most occupations were closed to women and when women did work they were paid only a fraction of what men earned
Women were not allowed to enter professions such as medicine or law
Women had no means to gain an education since no college or university would accept women students
With only a few exceptions, women were not allowed to participate in the affairs of the church
Women were robbed of their self-confidence and self-respect, and were made totally dependent on men
Strong words… Large grievances… And remember: This was just seventy years after the Revolutionary War. Doesn’t it seem surprising to you that this unfair treatment of women was the norm in this new, very idealistic democracy? But this Declaration of Sentiments spelled out what was the status quo for European-American women in 1848 America, while it was even worse for enslaved Black women.

Elizabeth Cady Stanton’s draft continued: “Now, in view of this entire disenfranchisement of one-half the people of this country, their social and religious degradation, — in view of the unjust laws above mentioned, and because women do feel themselves aggrieved, oppressed, and fraudulently deprived of their most sacred rights, we insist that they have immediate admission to all the rights and privileges which belong to them as citizens of these United States.”

That summer, change was in the air and Elizabeth Cady Stanton was full of hope that the future could and would be brighter for women.
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The First Women’s Rights Convention
The convention was convened as planned, and over the two-days of discussion, the Declaration of Sentiments and 12 resolutions received unanimous endorsement, one by one, with a few amendments. The only resolution that did not pass unanimously was the call for women’s enfranchisement. That women should be allowed to vote in elections was almost inconceivable to many. Lucretia Mott, Stanton’s longtime friend, had been shocked when Stanton had first suggested such an idea. And at the convention, heated debate over the woman’s vote filled the air.

Today, it’s hard for us to imagine this, isn’t it? Even the heartfelt pleas of Elizabeth Cady Stanton, a refined and educated woman of the time, did not move the assembly. Not until Frederick Douglass, the noted Black abolitionist and rich orator, started to speak, did the uproar subside. Woman, like the slave, he argued, had the right to liberty. “Suffrage,” he asserted, “is the power to choose rulers and make laws, and the right by which all others are secured.” In the end, the resolution won enough votes to carry, but by a bare majority.

The Declaration of Sentiments ended on a note of complete realism: “In entering upon the great work before us, we anticipate no small amount of misconception, misrepresentation, and ridicule; but we shall use every instrumentality within our power to effect our object. We shall employ agents, circulate tracts, petition the State and national Legislatures, and endeavor to enlist the pulpit and the press in our behalf. We hope this Convention will be followed by a series of Conventions, embracing every part of the country.”
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The Backlash Begins
Stanton was certainly on the mark when she anticipated “misconception, misrepresentation, and ridicule.” Newspaper editors were so scandalized by the shameless audacity of the Declaration of Sentiments, and particularly of the ninth resolution — women demanding the vote!– that they attacked the women with all the vitriol they could muster. The women’s rights movement was only one day old and the backlash had already begun!

In ridicule, the entire text of the Declaration of Sentiments was often published, with the names of the signers frequently included. Just as ridicule today often has a squelching effect on new ideas, this attack in the press caused many people from the Convention to rethink their positions. Many of the women who had attended the convention were so embarrassed by the publicity that they actually withdrew their signatures from the Declaration. But most stood firm. And something the editors had not anticipated happened: Their negative articles about the women’s call for expanded rights were so livid and widespread that they actually had a positive impact far beyond anything the organizers could have hoped for. People in cities and isolated towns alike were now alerted to the issues, and joined this heated discussion of women’s rights in great numbers!
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The Movement Expands
The Seneca Falls women had optimistically hoped for “a series of conventions embracing every part of the country.” And that’s just what did happen. Women’s Rights Conventions were held regularly from 1850 until the start of the Civil War. Some drew such large crowds that people actually had to be turned away for lack of sufficient meeting space!

The women’s rights movement of the late 19th century went on to address the wide range of issues spelled out at the Seneca Falls Convention. Elizabeth Cady Stanton and women like Susan B. Anthony, Lucy Stone, and Sojourner Truth traveled the country lecturing and organizing for the next forty years. Eventually, winning the right to vote emerged as the central issue, since the vote would provide the means to achieve the other reforms. All told, the campaign for woman suffrage met such staunch opposition that it took 72 years for the women and their male supporters to be successful.

As you might imagine, any 72-year campaign includes thousands of political strategists, capable organizers, administrators, activists and lobbyists. The story of diligent women’s rights activism is a litany of achievements against tremendous odds, of ingenious strategies and outrageous tactics used to outwit opponents and make the most of limited resources. It’s a dramatic tale, filled with remarkable women facing down incredible obstacles to win that most basic American civil right – the vote.

Among these women are several activists whose names and and accomplishments should become as familiar to Americans as those of Thomas Jefferson, Abraham Lincoln and Martin Luther King, Jr.

Elizabeth Cady Stanton, of course. And Susan B. Anthony. Matilda Joslyn Gage. Lucy Stone. They were pioneer theoreticians of the 19th-century women’s rights movement.
Esther Morris, the first woman to hold a judicial position, who led the first successful state campaign for woman suffrage, in Wyoming in 1869. Abigail Scott Duniway, the leader of the successful fight in Oregon and Washington in the early 1900s.
Ida B. Wells-Barnett and Mary Church Terrell, organizers of thousands of African-American women who worked for suffrage for all women.
Harriot Stanton Blatch, daughter of Elizabeth Cady Stanton, and Alice Stone Blackwell, Lucy Stone’s daughter, who carried on their mothers’ legacy through the next generation.
Anna Howard Shaw and Carrie Chapman Catt, leaders of the National American Woman Suffrage Association in the early years of the 20th century, who brought the campaign to its final success.
Alice Paul, founder and leader of the National Woman’s Party, considered the radical wing of the movement.
Ruth Bader Ginsburg, now a Supreme Court Justice, learned the story of the Women’s Rights Movement. Today she says, “I think about how much we owe to the women who went before us – legions of women, some known but many more unknown. I applaud the bravery and resilience of those who helped all of us – you and me – to be here today.”

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After the Vote was Won
After the vote was finally won in 1920, the organized Women’s Rights Movement continued on in several directions. While the majority of women who had marched, petitioned and lobbied for woman suffrage looked no further, a minority – like Alice Paul – understood that the quest for women’s rights would be an ongoing struggle that was only advanced, not satisfied, by the vote.

In 1919, as the suffrage victory drew near, the National American Woman Suffrage Association reconfigured itself into the League of Women Voters to ensure that women would take their hard-won vote seriously and use it wisely.

In 1920, the Women’s Bureau of the Department of Labor was established to gather information about the situation of women at work, and to advocate for changes it found were needed. Many suffragists became actively involved with lobbying for legislation to protect women workers from abuse and unsafe conditions.

In 1923, Alice Paul, the leader of the National Woman’s Party, took the next obvious step. She drafted an Equal Rights Amendment for the United States Constitution. Such a federal law, it was argued, would ensure that “Men and women have equal rights throughout the United States.” A constitutional amendment would apply uniformly, regardless of where a person lived.

The second wing of the post-suffrage movement was one that had not been explicitly anticipated in the Seneca Falls “Declaration of Sentiments.” It was the birth control movement, initiated by a public health nurse, Margaret Sanger, just as the suffrage drive was nearing its victory. The idea of woman’s right to control her own body, and especially to control her own reproduction and sexuality, added a visionary new dimension to the ideas of women’s emancipation. This movement not only endorsed educating women about existing birth control methods. It also spread the conviction that meaningful freedom for modern women meant they must be able to decide for themselves whether they would become mothers, and when. For decades, Margaret Sanger and her supporters faced down at every turn the zealously enforced laws denying women this right. In 1936, a Supreme Court decision declassified birth control information as obscene. Still, it was not until 1965 that married couples in all states could obtain contraceptives legally.
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The Second Wave
So it’s clear that, contrary to common misconception, the Women’s Rights Movement did not begin in the 1960s. What occurred in the 1960s was actually a second wave of activism that washed into the public consciousness, fueled by several seemingly independent events of that turbulent decade. Each of these events brought a different segment of the population into the movement.

First: Esther Peterson was the director of the Women’s Bureau of the Dept. of Labor in 1961. She considered it to be the government’s responsibility to take an active role in addressing discrimination against women. With her encouragement, President Kennedy convened a Commission on the Status of Women, naming Eleanor Roosevelt as its chair. The report issued by that commission in 1963 documented discrimination against women in virtually every area of American life. State and local governments quickly followed suit and established their own commissions for women, to research conditions and recommend changes that could be initiated.

Then: In 1963, Betty Friedan published a landmark book, The Feminine Mystique. The Feminine Mystique evolved out of a survey she had conducted for her 20-year college reunion. In it she documented the emotional and intellectual oppression that middle-class educated women were experiencing because of limited life options. The book became an immediate bestseller, and inspired thousands of women to look for fulfillment beyond the role of homemaker.

Next: Title VII of the 1964 Civil Rights Act was passed, prohibiting employment discrimination on the basis of sex as well as race, religion, and national origin. The category “sex” was included as a last-ditch effort to kill the bill. But it passed, nevertheless. With its passage, the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission was established to investigate discrimination complaints. Within the commission’s first five years, it received 50,000 sex discrimination complaints. But it was quickly obvious that the commission was not very interested in pursuing these complaints. Betty Friedan, the chairs of the various state Commissions on the Status of Women, and other feminists agreed to form a civil rights organization for women similar to the NAACP. In 1966, the National Organization for Women was organized, soon to be followed by an array of other mass-membership organizations addressing the needs of specific groups of women, including Blacks, Latinas, Asians-Americans, lesbians, welfare recipients, business owners, aspiring politicians, and tradeswomen and professional women of every sort.

During this same time, thousands of young women on college campuses were playing active roles within the anti-war and civil rights movement. At least,that was their intention. Many were finding their efforts blocked by men who felt leadership of these movements was their own province, and that women’s roles should be limited to fixing food and running mimeograph machines. It wasn’t long before these young women began forming their own “women’s liberation” organizations to address their role and status within these progressive movements and within society at large.
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New Issues Come to the Fore
These various elements of the re-emerging Women’s Rights Movement worked together and separately on a wide range of issues. Small groups of women in hundreds of communities worked on grassroots projects like establishing women’s newspapers, bookstores and cafes. They created battered women’s shelters and rape crisis hotlines to care for victims of sexual abuse and domestic violence. They came together to form child care centers so women could work outside their homes for pay. Women health care professionals opened women’s clinics to provide birth control and family planning counseling — and to offer abortion services — for low-income women. These clinics provided a safe place to discuss a wide range of health concerns and experiment with alternative forms of treatment.

With the inclusion of Title IX in the Education Codes of 1972, equal access to higher education and to professional schools became the law. The long-range effect of that one straightforward legal passage beginning “Equal access to education programs…,” has been simply phenomenal. The number of women doctors, lawyers, engineers, architects and other professionals has doubled and doubled again as quotas actually limiting women’s enrollment in graduate schools were outlawed. Athletics has probably been the most hotly contested area of Title IX, and it’s been one of the hottest areas of improvement, too. The rise in girls’ and women’s participation in athletics tells the story: One in twenty-seven high school girls played sports 25 years ago; one in three do today. The whole world saw how much American women athletes could achieve during the last few Olympic Games, measured in their astonishing numbers of gold, silver, and bronze medals. This was another very visible result of Title IX.

In society at large, the Women’s Rights Movement has brought about measurable changes, too. In 1972, 26% of men and women said they would not vote for a woman for president. In 1996, that sentiment had plummeted to just over 5% for women and to 8% for men. The average age of women when they first marry has moved from twenty to twenty-four during that same period.

But perhaps the most dramatic impact of the women’s rights movement of the past few decades has been women’s financial liberation. Do you realize that just 25 years ago married women were not issued credit cards in their own name? That most women could not get a bank loan without a male co-signer? That women working full time earned fifty-nine cents to every dollar earned by men?

Help-wanted ads in newspapers were segregated into “Help wanted – women” and “Help wanted- men.” Pages and pages of jobs were announced for which women could not even apply. The Equal Employment Opportunity Commission ruled this illegal in 1968, but since the EEOC had little enforcement power, most newspapers ignored the requirement for years. The National Organization for Women (NOW), had to argue the issue all the way to the Supreme Court to make it possible for a woman today to hold any job for which she is qualified. And so now we see women in literally thousands of occupations which would have been almost unthinkable just one generation ago: dentist, bus driver, veterinarian, airline pilot, and phone installer, just to name a few.

Many of these changes came about because of legislation and court cases pushed by women’s organizations. But many of the advances women achieved in the 1960s and ’70s were personal: getting husbands to help with the housework or regularly take responsibility for family meals; getting a long-deserved promotion at work; gaining the financial and emotional strength to leave an abusive partner.
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The Equal Rights Amendment Is Re-Introduced
Then, in 1972, the Equal Rights Amendment, which had languished in Congress for almost fifty years, was finally passed and sent to the states for ratification. The wording of the ERA was simple: “Equality of rights under the law shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any state on account of sex.” To many women’s rights activists, its ratification by the required thirty-eight states seemed almost a shoo-in.

The campaign for state ratification of the Equal Rights Amendment provided the opportunity for millions of women across the nation to become actively involved in the Women’s Rights Movement in their own communities. Unlike so many other issues which were battled-out in Congress or through the courts, this issue came to each state to decide individually. Women’s organizations of every stripe organized their members to help raise money and generate public support for the ERA. Marches were staged in key states that brought out hundreds of thousands of supporters. House meetings, walk-a-thons, door-to-door canvassing, and events of every imaginable kind were held by ordinary women, many of whom had never done anything political in their lives before. Generous checks and single dollar bills poured into the campaign headquarters, and the ranks of NOW and other women’s rights organizations swelled to historic sizes. Every women’s magazine and most general interest publications had stories on the implications of the ERA, and the progress of the ratification campaign.

But Elizabeth Cady Stanton proved prophetic once again. Remember her prediction that the movement should “anticipate no small amount of misconception, misrepresentation, and ridicule”? Opponents of the Equal Rights Amendment, organized by Phyllis Schlafly, feared that a statement like the ERA in the Constitution would give the government too much control over our personal lives. They charged that passage of the ERA would lead to men abandoning their families, unisex toilets, gay marriages, and women being drafted. And the media, purportedly in the interest of balanced reporting, gave equal weight to these deceptive arguments just as they had when the possibility of women winning voting rights was being debated. And, just like had happened with woman suffrage, there were still very few women in state legislatures to vote their support, so male legislators once again had it in their power to decide if women should have equal rights. When the deadline for ratification came in 1982, the ERA was just three states short of the 38 needed to write it into the U.S. constitution. Seventy-five percent of the women legislators in those three pivotal states supported the ERA, but only 46% of the men voted to ratify.

Despite polls consistently showing a large majority of the population supporting the ERA, it was considered by many politicians to be just too controversial. Historically speaking, most if not all the issues of the women’s rights movement have been highly controversial when they were first voiced. Allowing women to go to college? That would shrink their reproductive organs! Employ women in jobs for pay outside their homes? That would destroy families! Cast votes in national elections? Why should they bother themselves with such matters? Participate in sports? No lady would ever want to perspire! These and other issues that were once considered scandalous and unthinkable are now almost universally accepted in this country.
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More Complex Issues Surface
Significant progress has been made regarding the topics discussed at the Seneca Falls Convention in 1848. The people attending that landmark discussion would not even have imagined the issues of the Women’s Rights Movement in the 1990s. Much of the discussion has moved beyond the issue of equal rights and into territory that is controversial, even among feminists. To name a few:

Women’s reproductive rights. Whether or not women can terminate pregnancies is still controversial twenty-five years after the Supreme Court ruling in Roe v. Wade affirmed women’s choice during the first two trimesters.
Women’s enrollment in military academies and service in active combat. Are these desirable?
Women in leadership roles in religious worship. Controversial for some, natural for others.
Affirmative action. Is help in making up for past discrimination appropriate? Do qualified women now face a level playing field?
The mommy track. Should businesses accommodate women’s family responsibilities, or should women compete evenly for advancement with men, most of whom still assume fewer family obligations?
Pornography. Is it degrading, even dangerous, to women, or is it simply a free speech issue?
Sexual harassment. Just where does flirting leave off and harassment begin?
Surrogate motherhood. Is it simply the free right of a woman to hire out her womb for this service?
Social Security benefits allocated equally for homemakers and their working spouses, to keep surviving wives from poverty as widows.
Today, young women proudly calling themselves “the third wave” are confronting these and other thorny issues. While many women may still be hesitant to call themselves “feminist” because of the ever-present backlash, few would give up the legacy of personal freedoms and expanded opportunities women have won over the last 150 years. Whatever choices we make for our own lives, most of us envision a world for our daughters, nieces and granddaughters where all girls and women will have the opportunity to develop their unique skills and talents and pursue their dreams.
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1998: Living the Legacy
In the 150 years since that first, landmark Women’s Rights Convention, women have made clear progress in the areas addressed by Elizabeth Cady Stanton in her revolutionary Declaration of Sentiments. Not only have women won the right to vote; we are being elected to public office at all levels of government. Jeannette Rankin was the first woman elected to Congress, in 1916. By 1971, three generations later, women were still less than three percent of our congressional representatives. Today women hold only 11% of the seats in Congress, and 21% of the state legislative seats. Yet, in the face of such small numbers, women have successfully changed thousands of local, state, and federal laws that had limited women’s legal status and social roles.

In the world of work, large numbers of women have entered the professions, the trades, and businesses of every kind. We have opened the ranks of the clergy, the military, the newsroom. More than three million women now work in occupations considered “nontraditional” until very recently.

We’ve accomplished so much, yet a lot still remains to be done. Substantial barriers to the full equality of America’s women still remain before our freedom as a Nation can be called complete. But the Women’s Rights Movement has clearly been successful in irrevocably changing the circumstances and hopes of women. The remaining injustices are being tackled daily in the courts and conference rooms, the homes and organizations, workplaces and playing fields of America.

Women and girls today are living the legacy of women’s rights that seven generations of women before us have given their best to achieve. Alice Paul, that intrepid organizer who first wrote out the Equal Rights Amendment in 1923, said, “I always feel the movement is sort of a mosaic. Each of us puts in one little stone, and then you get a great mosaic at the end.” Women, acting together, adding their small stones to the grand mosaic, have increased their rights against all odds, nonviolently, from an initial position of powerlessness. We have a lot to be proud of in this heroic legacy, and a great deal to celebrate on the occasion of the 150th Anniversary of the founding of the Women’s Rights Movement.

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admin 01.02.09 at 10:20 pm

absolutely PumaBEAR, we love repciprocation here at puma pac. we’re always ready to add to our wonderful blogroll, post links to great articles, and spread the word about other Puma actions and causes.

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Casper Cat 01.02.09 at 10:21 pm

Please pay special attention to A “Declaration of Sentiments” is Drafted…. :mrgreen: Sorry, it long but, well worth reading

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admin 01.02.09 at 10:22 pm

mountainsong #16 — nice one!

thanks for the read casper cat — well, I havent finished it yet.

LOL!

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mountainsong 01.02.09 at 10:22 pm

TerryDo 01.02.09 at 10:01 pm Well, I said I’m willing to do whatever you ask that will help that cause.

“By not giving women equal rights under the Constitution that is discriminatory and by fighting against this just cause is abusive behavior towards women.

And I believe that until this long past history of discriminatory and abusive behavior is ratified, women will not feel equal and free, to actually scream, ‘Hey, you’re stepping on my toes, without apologizing first’.”

I have to say, between helping younger women in AA and NA, and being in the club dancing, am around alot of ‘younger’ women who don’t seem to feel like that. They scream when they want to, and they don’t hesitate to tell some guy to get the F outta the way.
Sexism does work both ways. It’s not a uni-gender anomally.
One thing I’d REALLY like to see is a list of Equal Rights~~~besides voting, bearing arms,yada, yada. Pursuit of life, liberty and happiness is an equal right to pursuit, anyway..
If a man says or does something against another man, he can get punched out just as fast as a woman can.
No, changing attitudes isn’t ‘old-fashioned’. But DEMANDING anything from anyone is a good way to get laughed at….if you don’t have a big stick.

OT Puma Bear has a good point, I think, about interconecting with the rest of pumasphere~~~while we still have computer access.

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MKfromLA 01.02.09 at 10:23 pm

Anything you have from the list below, include it in your email to our lovely Action Center actioncenter@pumapac.org

person’s names
email addys
website url
url for where to blog
snailmail
phone
fax

what’s the cause we have in common?
Woman Lynching
51%
ERA
Shift the focus Up
Women’s History Curriculum
Curricula Fairness
Election reform … ACORN
Election reform … campaign finance reform
Election reform … caucus fraud
Natural Born Citizen
Obama Watch
Free Press
Media Sexism
Puma Presence (outreach … blogroll … pumasphere)
Women’s self defense
Traitors to Women & LGBT
Support HRC

Imagine the glow when you see a prowl going out with YOUR contact!!!!

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DancesWithPumas 01.02.09 at 10:24 pm

Alice Paul, that intrepid organizer who first wrote out the Equal Rights Amendment in 1923, said,
“I always feel the movement is sort of a mosaic. Each of us puts in one little stone, and then you get a great mosaic at the end.”

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mountainsong 01.02.09 at 10:24 pm

I read, on the ERA Homepage, that there are over 200 organizations, nationwide, involved in the ERA campaign.
Talk about ‘Common Cause’…we should have THEIR list.

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admin 01.02.09 at 10:24 pm

PumaBEAR, #21 — an excellent point.

I’ve emailed a bit with the owner of femisex, she is FABULOUS.

very very good.

I’ll try to remember to link to there more often,

NOP and a few other of our regulars go there often I believe.

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invalidresponse 01.02.09 at 10:25 pm

DancesWithPumas 01.02.09 at 10:10 pm
_______________
Here Dances…….tissue

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MKfromLA 01.02.09 at 10:27 pm

#16 mountainsong 01.02.09 at 10:06 pm

Here is a good one. I Don’t know ifwe already have a list of colleges, especially Womens’ colleges, but with Womens’ Studies curricuums.
Seems like a good place for the disemination (do I like that word?) of information.

http://www.womenscolleges.org/

-

Thank you mountainsong!

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DancesWithPumas 01.02.09 at 10:29 pm

LOL loll invalid!!! No, wait, I meant to say
(((((((((invalid))))))))))
in.dis.pens.able dispenser

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mountainsong 01.02.09 at 10:31 pm

Casper Cat~~~~Thanks aot, Hon~~~ I was looking for a good book to read tonight and what’s better than 150 years of Womens’ Movements?!? Long as we’re all talking about the same kinda ‘movements’.

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DancesWithPumas 01.02.09 at 10:31 pm

mountainsong 01.02.09 at 10:24 pm [edit]
I read, on the ERA Homepage, that there are over 200 organizations, nationwide, involved in the ERA campaign.
Talk about ‘Common Cause’…we should have THEIR list.
————–
There ya go!! Retrieve it!

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mountainsong 01.02.09 at 10:32 pm

DancesWithPumas 01.02.09 at 10:31 pm Retrieve? You mean, “Seek and Fetch”!!!?

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admin 01.02.09 at 10:33 pm

oh, this is actually fun!

i just sent a couple contacts to actioncenter for woman-lynching.

they are for local orgs in MA that deal with hate crimes and assaults on women and children.

Remember your local orgs — the groups that you actually know “personally”

Local contacts are very excellent because the offices are often smaller, the people running them perhaps more responsive, and the opportunity for spreading Puma seeds greater.

Act locally!

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MKfromLA 01.02.09 at 10:38 pm

#24 Casper Cat 01.02.09 at 10:18 pm

And I see you included all the contact info, and you know where that’s going, don’t you!

Thank you for contributing to the PUMAPAC Contact List!

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SadStateOfAffairs 01.02.09 at 10:38 pm

Complete Media Contact List in Alphabetical Order and by State:

http://www.hillarysvillage.net/showthread.php?t=15

Cheers!

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DancesWithPumas 01.02.09 at 10:39 pm

mountainsong 01.02.09 at 10:32 pm [edit]
DancesWithPumas 01.02.09 at 10:31 pm Retrieve? You mean, “Seek and Fetch”!!!?
——————–
“Seek and Fetch” is good. The contacts can be added to the common cause database.

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mountainsong 01.02.09 at 10:40 pm

You just don’t want me to have time to write a book.

The National Council of Women’s Organizations is a Washington, DC-based nonpartisan network of more than 200 women’s organizations, representing more than 10 million members. It was established in 1982 in response to the expiration of the deadline for ERA ratification. The NCWO’s ERA Task Force was established in 1999.

You want me to send you ALL those email addy’s I can get? Outta 10 MILLION members????

The “three-state strategy” for ERA ratification was developed through the efforts of the ERA Summit, a volunteer coalition organized in 1991. Current information about ERA campaigns in the unratified states can be found on the website of the ERA Campaign Network.

http://www.equalrightsamendment.org/

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Casper Cat 01.02.09 at 10:41 pm

Sorry, Puma’s for the long,long read…And, Murphy there is some really great information in there….We are the Fourth Movement…That is the way I see it…”this was definitely not the first small group of women to have such a conversation, but it was the first to plan and carry out a Specific, large-scale program”. that is what it is about… ;)

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admin 01.02.09 at 10:42 pm

mountainsong #38, yeah well it’s a dirty job but someone’s gotta do it!

my favorite puma pac job is combing through a list of 60 or 70 email addresses and changing the semicolons separating the addies to commas.

FUN!

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PUMAbear 01.02.09 at 10:42 pm

Pumas working on “common cause” FYI. Other blogs have blog rolls that include different contacts than the one we roll.

Thanks.

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murphy 01.02.09 at 10:43 pm

no, it’s great casper — i was being serious!

:-)

yep — fourth wave baby.

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DancesWithPumas 01.02.09 at 10:44 pm

SadStateOfAffairs 01.02.09 at 10:38 pm [edit]
Complete Media Contact List in Alphabetical Order and by State:
http://www.hillarysvillage.net/showthread.php?t=15
Cheers!
——————–
Great listing!! Would you happen to know how current it is?

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DancesWithPumas 01.02.09 at 10:46 pm

my favorite puma pac job is combing through a list of 60 or 70 email addresses and changing the semicolons separating the addies to commas.
——————–
Ahhhhhhhhahahahaha!!
Thennnnnnnn, Texas Tigress goes back through them and changes all the commas to semicolons!

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murphy 01.02.09 at 10:46 pm

can i just say that this is a BRILLIANT idea MKfromLA and PumaBEAR?

I’m looking at your list in comment #29 and realizing, oh! I can think of some good contacts for these actions!

“what’s the cause we have in common?
Woman Lynching
51%
ERA
Shift the focus Up
Women’s History Curriculum
Curricula Fairness
Election reform … ACORN
Election reform … campaign finance reform
Election reform … caucus fraud
Natural Born Citizen
Obama Watch
Free Press
Media Sexism
Puma Presence (outreach … blogroll … pumasphere)
Women’s self defense
Traitors to Women & LGBT
Support HRC

Imagine the glow when you see a prowl going out with YOUR contact!!!!”

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MKfromLA 01.02.09 at 10:47 pm

#30 DancesWithPumas 01.02.09 at 10:24 pm

Alice Paul, that intrepid organizer who first wrote out the Equal Rights Amendment in 1923, said,
“I always feel the movement is sort of a mosaic. Each of us puts in one little stone, and then you get a great mosaic at the end.”

-

great word image! and here’s a great mosaic to match
http://www.atlastours.net/syria/tethys_mosaic.jpg

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SadStateOfAffairs 01.02.09 at 10:48 pm

Dances,

These were compiled during the primaries so they should be fairly current. Within the last 6 months or so.

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DancesWithPumas 01.02.09 at 10:49 pm

MKfromLA 01.02.09 at 10:47 pm
#30 DancesWithPumas 01.02.09 at 10:24 pm
Alice Paul, that intrepid organizer who first wrote out the Equal Rights Amendment in 1923, said,
“I always feel the movement is sort of a mosaic. Each of us puts in one little stone, and then you get a great mosaic at the end.”

great word image! and here’s a great mosaic to match
http://www.atlastours.net/syria/tethys_mosaic.jpg
——————–
be still my heart…

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DancesWithPumas 01.02.09 at 10:50 pm

SadStateOfAffairs 01.02.09 at 10:48 pm [edit]
Dances,
These were compiled during the primaries so they should be fairly current. Within the last 6 months or so.
—————–
Thank you!

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PUMAbear 01.02.09 at 10:50 pm

SadStateofAffairs #41

Thanks for sharing your list of contacts with the media. Looks like Hillary’s Village is an interesting site.

Kudos.

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MKfromLA 01.02.09 at 10:50 pm

#39 admin 01.02.09 at 10:33 pm

oh, this is actually fun!

i just sent a couple contacts to actioncenter for woman-lynching.

they are for local orgs in MA that deal with hate crimes and assaults on women and children.

Remember your local orgs — the groups that you actually know “personally”

Local contacts are very excellent because the offices are often smaller, the people running them perhaps more responsive, and the opportunity for spreading Puma seeds greater.

Act locally!

- – -

oh, I forgot to tell all you friday night surfers – the spreadsheet also has a place for locale – so tell us if this is a national contact, a state contact & which state, a local contact, etc

thanks!

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Casper Cat 01.02.09 at 10:51 pm

Hi MKfromLA #40..Hope I can be of some benefit and use…Please let me know what I can do to help..You have my email…Thanks… And, MURPHY…. :wink: I am happy you find it useful… It reminded my of your ” Tell me How and be Specific”…I just love that!!!!!!!! :lol:

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MKfromLA 01.02.09 at 10:54 pm

#41 SadStateOfAffairs 01.02.09 at 10:38 pm

wow.

No, what I actually meant to say is

WOW.

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PUMAbear 01.02.09 at 10:54 pm

Mountainsong #43,

Thank you for providing the list of women’s colleges for the women’s study curricula team and the extensive list for the ERA team.

Go Pumas!

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DancesWithPumas 01.02.09 at 10:54 pm

Factoid: The last time we scrambled as a group and set out to ’seek and fetch’ (love it) links it was a Friday night too! Those fetches were the beginnings of our loverly action center! And, here we are again!
Very cool.

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DancesWithPumas 01.02.09 at 10:56 pm

MK and PB
To which of you is the Action Center forwarding links?

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Nijma 01.02.09 at 11:02 pm

It’s not a “hotlink” (i think)
That’s right, if you right click on the photo and then click “properties”, you can see both the link and where the image is hosted.

I’m afraid did a naughty thing once. There was this bot site that was pretending to be neutral and I sort of hotlinked to an image of Teh Precious they had, just because I was still trying to figure out how to do stuff. Then I forgot about it until suddenly half of my hits were for just that one photo, and by then they were really in the tank, poor things, but paying for their own bandwidth, while I was getting all the google mojo free. It’s been fixed now, and I myself have the image safe, but I’m afraid I was lazy for a loooonnng time.

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murphy 01.02.09 at 11:03 pm

TerryDO, #11, very true.

I like the acronym WOW for Wise Older Women.

so many Pumas are WOW’s

I will be one soon too, as my 40th birthday is coming up PRETTY darn soon, yep, that’s right.

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PUMAbear 01.02.09 at 11:03 pm

Dances,
Guess that’s gonna be me!

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SadStateOfAffairs 01.02.09 at 11:05 pm

PUMAbear,

Thank you and your quite welcome. We have worked our puma tails off 24/7 since last Feb. and used those contacts on a regular basis for action tasks. Knock yourself out! lol

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DancesWithPumas 01.02.09 at 11:06 pm

PumaBear…
But of course!! Silly me!
…incoming.

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PUMAbear 01.02.09 at 11:08 pm

SadStateofAffairs

Whoooohooooo. Wish I had known about you earlier.

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SadStateOfAffairs 01.02.09 at 11:13 pm

#58 MKfromLA 01.02.09 at 10:54 pm
#41 SadStateOfAffairs 01.02.09 at 10:38 pm

wow.

No, what I actually meant to say is

WOW.

You are more than welcome. We have many resources and we are more than happy to share for our common cause!

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murphy 01.02.09 at 11:13 pm

never heard of Hillary’s Villagers and the fabulous Normita Fenn?

silly Puma!

;-)

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murphy 01.02.09 at 11:14 pm

Hillary’s Villagers ALWAYS participate in our Prowls — they are underappreciated heroines of the Puma Movement.

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MKfromLA 01.02.09 at 11:15 pm

Also we need anything anyone has on the subject of Crackle! the PUMA media critic project. A subject near to my heart.

Fourth estate my asterisk.

Please!

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PUMAbear 01.02.09 at 11:18 pm

Murphy,

I am humbled by my ignorance of the pumasphere, but I’m trying to correct that inadequacy.

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hillstheone 01.02.09 at 11:19 pm

Hi PUMA’s!
Can I just say I’m SO glad Obama left Hawaii. It was getting depressing hearing about his continuous trips over there during the campaign, especially when Hillary worked her butt off for him and he kept hopping into that private jet. Then he went over there again for yet another round of R&R. Oh brother.

Bet – if he gets sworn in – he takes more vacations than Bush did.

OK on to other topics. Can I also add that as an Independent voter I sure hope that someday I will again get involved in local politics. I did enjoy being a precinct worker for Kerry (& yes my precinct voted blue & I was proud of that), it will be a good day when I can feel proud to be part of the “mainstream” political process again.

TIME MAG – Lastly I’ve been thinking about TIME magazine putting the word “PUMA” on their 2008 buzzwords list.

Might it be fun for us to do a prowl on TIME next week, and send them short (& polite) emails as to “What PUMA means to me” ??!!!

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SadStateOfAffairs 01.02.09 at 11:20 pm

#70 murphy 01.02.09 at 11:14 pm

Thanks Murphy! We have a motivated group and we love PUMApac!

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murphy 01.02.09 at 11:21 pm

aw shucks, pumabear, i was just joshin ya.

it’s more my fault than yours anyway, I try to link a lot, but I fail every day.

but here’s some good advice:

Keep trying. Fail. Next time, fail better.

or something close to that. anyway, that’s my motto!

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invalidresponse 01.02.09 at 11:31 pm

murphy 01.02.09 at 11:21 pm
“fail better”
_______
I like that!!

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brad mays 01.02.09 at 11:32 pm

Murphy -

“Keep trying. Fail. Next time, fail better.”

I’ve been looking for a quote to open the film. I really like this. Can I use it?

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murphy 01.02.09 at 11:34 pm

of course Brad!

I got it from a writing teacher.

so it’s not mine, i’ll see if i can find the originator.

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kat in your hat 01.02.09 at 11:34 pm

PUMAbear #17

NEED Puma PAC Invitation w/ logo for pumasphere!

(One thing about getting puma blog information…some like to keep slightly anonymous. Or at least, might feel uncomfortable being a part of mass email list. Who knows, we will see. I know of several sites/ people who have access lists to many pumas (like puma pac). I can tap them, but their lists are built on trust.)

We can also contact each and every blog, but…this way might be faster…might spread word more:

**Consider drawing up a clear and concise Puma PAC invitation/ request/ statement w/ logo. Not just a post but actual…something.

The clear and easy to understand invitation can include, like you said: A sort of declaration of “our plan to combine forces on certain Actions and see who says yes…”…with an assurance that Puma PAC will also “reciprocate” and that the “pumasphere must be interconnected.” Put simple instructions on Puma PAC invitation. THEN, the invitation will have murphy/ action center contact information. Request that they submit their blog and also contact information.

THEN, we can have our Puma pals put the “invitation” on their blogs, and we can all pass it around. Or we can use that invitation link just to drop all over the internet.

Might excite people to see something “formal.”

Anyway, something to consider.
______________________

(ok, I am organizing some things, and it will take a *tinsy* bit of time, ya know, but we will come up with great overall contact list. Action Center still has great contacts–must cont. to use. Might take time to decipher all contacts submitted from all as there may be repeats.)

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brad mays 01.02.09 at 11:35 pm

It’s perfect. It’s a thing of beauty, really.

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PUMAbear 01.02.09 at 11:35 pm

WOW. My in box is overflowing. Hope I can keep up.

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murphy 01.02.09 at 11:35 pm

samuel beckett, of course. my favorite writer of all time.

Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better.
Samuel Beckett

http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/s/samuel_beckett.html

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hillstheone 01.02.09 at 11:36 pm

PROWL
Been surfing around, about to send in a bunch of stuff to the Action Center. Here are a few I thought were kind of interesting

http://www.mediachannel.org/ – Blog covering the media

http://withoutaparty.blogspot.com/ – This one I just liked the title, “Man Without a Party.”

http://mediamatters.org/ – This site is funny. They want to keep an eye on media – but not so media will report FAIRLY, just so they will report what they wanna hear, ha,ha!
At least they hate Ann Coulter so I guess they can’t be ALL bad.

But … they consider THIS, unfair??!!
“Disregarding Fitzgerald’s warning, media use Blagojevich scandal to engage in guilt-by-association against Obama.

Summary: Disregarding U.S. attorney Patrick Fitzgerald’s warning to “not cast aspersions on people for being named or being discussed” in the criminal complaint against Illinois Gov. Rod Blagojevich, several in the media have used the scandal as an opportunity to engage in suggestions of guilt-by-association against President-elect Barack Obama, by rehashing Obama’s purportedly “questionable associations,” or suggesting that Obama is a product of corrupt “Chicago politics.”

C’mon, Duh. Fitzgerald said there was nothing in the PAPERS he was filing that DAY linking Obama to Chicago-gate…a little different meaning there, people.

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DancesWithPumas 01.02.09 at 11:37 pm

brad
i forwarded your new number to taggles

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murphy 01.02.09 at 11:37 pm

major hubris alert.

i like my paraphrase better.

:oops:

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hillstheone 01.02.09 at 11:40 pm

PUMA’s it was sure fun seeing Bill & Hillary at Times Square this week, I thought they were a class act & was really happy to see them happy.

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hillstheone 01.02.09 at 11:40 pm

Need to run, BBL. Keep surfin’! ;)

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PUMAbear 01.02.09 at 11:42 pm

Murphy, Murphy. I am great pals with better failure.

Think Kat’s idea sounds good, but not sure of the mechanics.

A huge prowl at TIME (Obama’s rag) Hear US ROAR? I love it but what are the pros and cons. Waddya think Murphy?

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MKfromLA 01.02.09 at 11:44 pm

#83 hillstheone 01.02.09 at 11:36 pm

PROWL
Been surfing around, about to send in a bunch of stuff to the Action Center.

Wow I can’t wait to open your lovely gifts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thank you from the bottom of my PUMA heart

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EWard 01.02.09 at 11:46 pm

Pumas

Just found this information about John Travolta’s son. Very sad! My prayers are with his family.

John Travolta’s Son, Jett, Dead At 16
Published by Josh Horowitz on Friday, January 2, 2009 at 10:14 pm.
Tragedy struck the Travolta family this holiday weekend when Jett Travolta, just 16 years old, was found unconscious in the family’s vacation home in the Bahamas, later to be pronounced dead. According to a report by the Associated Press the son of John Travolta and Kelly Preston suffered a seizure and hit his head rendering him unconscious in a bathroom at the home. A caretaker at the house found the teenager on Friday morning. After being taken to a local hospital he was pronounced dead.

Police Superintendent Basil Rahming indicated in a statement that Travolta was last seen entering the bathroom on Thursday. He had a history of seizures, according to the statement.

Reportedly Jett Travolta had a developmental disability that his parents linked to Kawasaki disease, an inflammatory disorder of the artery walls that most commonly occurs in young children and can lead to heart disease.

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DancesWithPumas 01.02.09 at 11:48 pm

murphy 01.02.09 at 11:37 pm [edit]
major hubris alert.
i like my paraphrase better.
——————
I like your paraphrase better too.

Besides, it’s not as if Samuel Beckett can sue you or anything! :)

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DancesWithPumas 01.02.09 at 11:50 pm

MK
Wow I can’t wait to open your lovely gifts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thank you from the bottom of my PUMA heart
———————
Overnight special delivery awaits you.
Btw, I think you’re gonna need a bigger mailbox.

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kat in your hat 01.02.09 at 11:51 pm

#88
If they get the quid pro quo of it…they might get more excited to unite…spread ideas and posts.

See, it’s really an invitation to not just join puma pac, but to get their issues spread to us, and they spread ours and we can make a pact to work together. “Puma PAC Pact”..?

I’m thinking if several sites posted the invite/ description/ people would submit their blogs and their contact info.

Would be bolder grassroot move than just dropping post in their blog comment section.

we’ll see. we’ll get it together no matter which way.

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DancesWithPumas 01.02.09 at 11:53 pm

smartkat

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brad mays 01.02.09 at 11:53 pm

Murphy -

Your paraphrase suits the film better.

Dances – Thanks.

Everyone else – I have a nasty cold and I’m going to bed. The film is looking great, BTW.

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mountainsong 01.03.09 at 12:00 am

murphy 01.02.09 at 10:43 pm Well, if you enjoy it so much….and you have so much spare time to read and blog the blogs……… ummmmm…..

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invalidresponse 01.03.09 at 12:01 am

wow there are a lot of abandoned blog out there…..(looking at the last post dates)…

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mountainsong 01.03.09 at 12:02 am

kat in your hat 01.02.09 at 11:51 pm

La Chanson du Cœur, j’aime comment vous pensez.

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MKfromLA 01.03.09 at 12:03 am

kat in your hat

I really like the image of a formal invitation to join the PAC Pact.

If we only knew an artist … tap tap tap … someone who knows how to do such a thing.

Wouldn’t it be loverly?

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PUMAbear 01.03.09 at 12:04 am

Pumas,

We gotta take a break or the dogs will leave without us.

bbl

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PUMAbear 01.03.09 at 12:07 am

Invalidresponse #97

People give up when nobody responds to their efforts. We can’t let that happen.

bbl

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mountainsong 01.03.09 at 12:10 am

DancesWithPumas 01.02.09 at 10:46 pm See? They don’t even need me.

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kat in your hat 01.03.09 at 12:11 am

ERA Supporters:

“The following is a partial list of organizations that support the Equal Rights Amendment”

http://www.equalrightsamendment.org/supportorgs.htm

(Just checking if we already have this list?)

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kat in your hat 01.03.09 at 12:14 am

@ #103

I see an organization can be added to that list…*someone* might want to email them, and get Puma PAC on that list..?

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MKfromLA 01.03.09 at 12:14 am

thanks Kat, no we didn’t have that one.

keep ‘em coming

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invalidresponse 01.03.09 at 12:17 am

off topic….
you know that pair of shoes you can’t find….
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/28474192#28472321

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mountainsong 01.03.09 at 12:18 am

kat in your hat 01.03.09 at 12:14 am Dances gave me the job of finding all the contact info for those groups. I think your Letter of Invitation to them would be a great idea. If they add us to their list, perhaps they will be more inclined to share their list with us.

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mountainsong 01.03.09 at 12:19 am

kat in your hat 01.03.09 at 12:14 am Dances gave me the job of finding all the contact info for those groups. I think your Letter of Invitation to them would be a great idea. If they add us to their list, perhaps they will be more inclined to share their list with us.
Inbetween dinner and phone calls I was thinking about what I might write to them. Your suggestions are a good outline.

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DancesWithPumas 01.03.09 at 12:20 am

MOUNTAINSONG
WHO DOESNT NEED YOU?

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mountainsong 01.03.09 at 12:20 am

Oops :oops: see, you are a much better writer than me.

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mountainsong 01.03.09 at 12:21 am

DancesWithPumas 01.03.09 at 12:20 am Don’t holler at me….I was j/k.

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DancesWithPumas 01.03.09 at 12:22 am

I was waiting fo rmy next comment to apologize for all caps… left ot on for subject headings.

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kat in your hat 01.03.09 at 12:23 am

mountainsong:

Yeah, I was thinking of invite for blogs, to stir up web again. Sorta like renewal..for the new year.

You have the job for all the organizations?? Ok. Not sure what to look up then. lol.

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Nijma 01.03.09 at 12:28 am

Friday Night Surf sent to Action Center!!

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kat in your hat 01.03.09 at 12:29 am

If we have Media contact lists. Politician/Elected official contact lists. Organization/ School contact lists (soon). Then get Puma blog contact lists (soon).

Then after that should be get some local activist lists?

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mountainsong 01.03.09 at 12:29 am

I am slowly gathering contact info from the same list you provided, Kat. From the ones that have links, anyway, but still want to send a letter to the parent ERA group.

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kat in your hat 01.03.09 at 12:32 am

mountainsong, oh ok.

Yeah, I am just trying to narrow it down in my head. ok.

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DancesWithPumas 01.03.09 at 12:32 am

NIMJA GOT IT AND FORWARDED. THANKS

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mountainsong 01.03.09 at 12:34 am

http://www.asanet.org/cs/advertising/mailing_lists

Dances, is this anything we might be interested in, do you think?

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Nijma 01.03.09 at 12:36 am

Just bragging–it’s quiet tonight.

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murphy 01.03.09 at 12:36 am

we hear ya dances, we hear ya.

(dont mind her. she’s ITALIAN.)

new FECK Obama page posted. It lists most of the blatant and egregious inconsistencies and violations of his corrupt money machine.

amazing work by the FECK Team.

blog links to this page wherever you go.

http://pumapac.org/forums/feck-obama-team/

(see TXRepGirl, I didnt forget you!)

hugs all around Puma PAC!

tomorrow is another day!

and if you’re in Cali or on the west coast, today is still a new day!

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mountainsong 01.03.09 at 12:37 am

kat in your hat 01.03.09 at 12:32 am While I am copying down all the contact info, can, how bout if you compose a draft letter. I’ll ask Dances to give you my email to send it to me. LOL

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mountainsong 01.03.09 at 12:37 am

DancesWithPumas 01.03.09 at 12:32 am Would you please give me email addy to Kat? Thank you.

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DancesWithPumas 01.03.09 at 12:40 am

will do, mountainsong.
sorry for the caps… subject headings for forwarding links etc.
—————–
Murphy,
pssst NORTHERN Italian
—————
I gotta go to bed now… soon as I forward the email address.

Great work, all!!!

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TerryDo 01.03.09 at 12:40 am

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kat in your hat 01.03.09 at 12:14 am

@ #103

I see an organization can be added to that list…*someone* might want to email them, and get Puma PAC on that list..?
*********************************

Kat in your hat, I had already requested Murphy to write them to place our name on their support list and she has already sent the letter. Only an executive can request joining the supporting group…

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mountainsong 01.03.09 at 12:40 am

Do we want to interface with the churches?

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invalidresponse 01.03.09 at 12:42 am

NIGHT DANCES!!!!! :lol:

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mountainsong 01.03.09 at 12:42 am

TerryDo 01.03.09 at 12:40 am That takes care of getting us on their list. I’ll keep looking for others.
What else can I b doingfor you, Terry?

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kat in your hat 01.03.09 at 12:43 am

TerryDo: oh good! lol. Yeah that’s what I meant by *someone*..he he. (That’s a great ERA website.)

mountainsong:
Yeah, I was wondering that–saw women’s churches. I say yes–they would get email from us, ya know. Emails don’t hurt.

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mountainsong 01.03.09 at 12:43 am

Today is always a new day, as is each moment.

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DancesWithPumas 01.03.09 at 12:44 am

MS email address sent to kiyh

Goodnight Puma Nation!!

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sandipuma 01.03.09 at 12:44 am

This is going around the internet big time .

Windfall Tax on Retirement Income

Adding a tax to your retirement is simply another way of saying to the American people, you’re so darn stupid that we’re going to keep doing this until we drain every cent from you. That’s what the Speaker of the House is saying. Read below……………

Nancy Pelosi wants a Windfall Tax on Retirement Income. In other words tax what you have made by investing toward your retirement. This woman is a nut case! You aren’t going to believe this.

Madam speaker Nancy Pelosi wants to put a Windfall Tax on all stock market profits (including Retirement fund, 401K and Mutual Funds! Alas , it is true – all to help the 12 Million Illegal Immigrants and other unemployed Minorities!

This woman is frightening.
She quotes…’ We need to work toward the goal of equalizing income, (didn’t Marx say something like this?), in our country and at the same time limiting the amount the rich can invest.’ (I am not rich, are you?)

When asked how these new tax dollars would be spent, she replied:
‘We need to raise the standard of living of our poor, unemployed and minorities. For example, we have an estimated 12 million illegal immigrants in our country who need our help along with millions of unemployed minorities. Stock market windfall profits taxes could go a long way to guarantee these people the standard of living they would like to have as ‘Americans’.’ (Read that quote again and again and let it sink in. ‘Lower your retirement, give it to others who have not worked as you have for it’.

Send it on to your friends. This lady is out of her mind and she is the speaker of the house !!

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murphy 01.03.09 at 12:44 am

yeah, but I’m already in california’s tomorrow.

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mountainsong 01.03.09 at 12:45 am

kat in your hat 01.03.09 at 12:43 am Yeya, it can’t hurt. I can’t wait to look for Lakeside and Saddleback.

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Nijma 01.03.09 at 12:46 am

I couldn’t read all of Casper Cat’s post either, but this caught my eye:

The Seneca Falls women had optimistically hoped for “a series of conventions embracing every part of the country.” And that’s just what did happen. Women’s Rights Conventions were held regularly from 1850 until the start of the Civil War. Some drew such large crowds that people actually had to be turned away for lack of sufficient meeting space!

I remember a convention back in the NOW days, maybe 1972. Some of from the university went together. It was a really mixed group–different sessions and people selling buttons like the coathanger with the red line through it (anti-back alley abortion, for those who can’t picture it.) The keynote speech at the end was by some scholar who was making interesting pints, but by that time everyone was tired and they wouldn’t listen–they just cheered whenever some slogan type statement was made.

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Nijma 01.03.09 at 12:47 am

Oops, my block quote HTML tag didn’t work. The last paragraph is my reaction to the other paragraph.

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DancesWithPumas 01.03.09 at 12:47 am

murphy 01.03.09 at 12:44 am [edit]
yeah, but I’m already in california’s tomorrow.
————-
Cool! Did I win the lottery??

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mountainsong 01.03.09 at 12:48 am

Too bad my brother-in-law and I don’t get along. Some time after he left the CIA and Chrysler(he is a good friend of Iacocca) he went to do the reorganization of the 700 Club for Pat Robertson, in 2000, I think it was. They still need to work on their PR with the LGBT community, LOL.

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goofsmom 01.03.09 at 12:49 am

Night Dances…

Sorry I’m late, took me awhile to catch up reading the blog… Wow all of you are kicking butt…

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Nijma 01.03.09 at 12:50 am

mountainsong, if you do anything with churches, you might want to think about sending to the education director. A lot of times that position will be a woman who is ordained.

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kat in your hat 01.03.09 at 12:50 am

mountainsong: #134
pfft, nah…just those women’s churches on ERA site–since they are already down.

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mountainsong 01.03.09 at 12:53 am

You prolly already think I’m strange, but a few minutes ago, I had a feeling, a strange sensation, and then heard the same voice I always hear in my visions, saying, “This is what it is meant to be.” I think it means THIS is what I saw all those years ago.

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mountainsong 01.03.09 at 12:54 am

kat in your hat 01.03.09 at 12:43 am

Oui, Mademoiselle. lol

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Nijma 01.03.09 at 12:55 am

I know several assistant pastor/education director type women pastors active in GLTB issues. that’s probably the overlap. Oh, I forgot about the reconciling congregations movement–definably some GLTB overlap there.

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mountainsong 01.03.09 at 12:56 am

Nijma 01.03.09 at 12:50 am Thanks, Nijma…I wrote that down so I don’t forget.

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Nijma 01.03.09 at 12:58 am

Ya know, my church has done all this reconciling stuff, but I sure would like to see women’s issues tackled on the theological level by someone who knows what they’re doing. The male preachers look at an icon of Saint Sophia and don’t get it.

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murphy 01.03.09 at 1:00 am

dances had a great story earlier about seeing a billboard in San Diego from a christian church there apologizing for Proposition Hate.

she cried like a baby.

says she’s going to post a pic of it tomorrow.

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MKfromLA 01.03.09 at 1:01 am

Who’s sending the LGBT stuff? Is it you mountainsong?

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Nijma 01.03.09 at 1:01 am

oh no, more crying. or not.

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MKfromLA 01.03.09 at 1:05 am

#114 Nijma 01.03.09 at 12:28 am

Friday Night Surf sent to Action Center!!
+++++++++++++++

xoxoxoxoxoxoxo Nijma

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Nijma 01.03.09 at 1:06 am

Ok, here’s off topic, a linguistics question. If we had the seventies and the eighties and the nineties, what comes next?

Then if we had “oh eight”, and “oh nine”, is “oh ten” next?

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invalidresponse 01.03.09 at 1:08 am

I hate blindly searching the net…I always run into this kind of crap and remember just how third class citizen’s some of us are..more rights taken away JAN 1ST 2008..anti was just talking about this subject this morning….

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/28470933#28400090

oh well I’m sure Pastor Warren ohenoughalready new pick would approve..
but then he also approves of women not having the right to choose…
and he approves with abuse not being a reason for divorce….

ever feel like we are moving backwards????

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pa dem 01.03.09 at 1:08 am

A woman from NOW called me wanting money, and I gave her an earful about what NOW has not been doing, and told her I would be supporting women’s rights through PUMA instead. She wanted to know what PUMA had done, and I listed it off, and she was like, “I have to do more research into PUMA”. Hehe.

I brought up how NOW had done nothing over the Favreau incident as well.

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Nijma 01.03.09 at 1:08 am

MKfromLA
say what?
I think that was a California compliment.

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goofsmom 01.03.09 at 1:08 am

nijma

I think it would be twenty ten…

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pa dem 01.03.09 at 1:10 am

The really weird part about the phone call was that she was calling from California….why wouldn’t it be PA volunteers calling PA? It doesn’t make sense.

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Nijma 01.03.09 at 1:11 am

mountainsong, that strange deja vu sensation means you didn’t get enough sleep.

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mountainsong 01.03.09 at 1:14 am

I just had an idea (Lookout) lol~~~
Are there an Grant writers among us?
When I advocated with the DV/SA Crisis Service, one of the things I did was work with the Finance Director researching grant funding sources for the grants she wrote.
I also have taken a college level class in grant writing, although I’ve never actually done one yet.But they do fascinate me a bit. I’d definitely be into working on such a project.
And Murphy commented recently about ‘if we only had a bigger budget to work with’.
PUMA has the same non-profit tax number and exemption as the Crisis Service, I think. I don’t see why we couldn’t organize on a similar level.
I get excited thinking about that idea. There really are so many, man grant sources.
I’m talking about a operating grant that would provide an office space, communication and computer equipment, Insurance, salarys for a Director, Finance Director, Programs Director, Volunteer Coordinator etc. with the rest of us, an army, a network, of volunteers to do everything else. A nation-wide outreach (Hey, this kinda makes me think of some nut) only above board and legal.
Think about it. Think about how many bright, talented, entreprenurial, educated, professional members we already have now, and the incredible vast potential we have now.
We can do it. We can take back our honor and defeat the evil that has usurped our national dignity. It is the ONLY way we will survive.

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Nijma 01.03.09 at 1:14 am

goofsmom, so if you were counting you would say: oh eight, oh nine, twenty ten, twenty eleven, twenty twelve, twenty thirteen,
Something about it doesn’t seem right.

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MKfromLA 01.03.09 at 1:15 am

#121 murphy 01.03.09 at 12:36 am

new FECK Obama page posted. It lists most of the blatant and egregious inconsistencies and violations of his corrupt money machine.

amazing work by the FECK Team.

blog links to this page wherever you go.

http://pumapac.org/forums/feck-obama-team/

————

Yes! Blog the above link!

I will post a note with the some of the audacious entries we mentioned on earlier threads.

Thank you Murphy!

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MKfromLA 01.03.09 at 1:15 am

I will post those to the FECK forum.

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mountainsong 01.03.09 at 1:17 am

Nijma 01.03.09 at 1:11 am No, my friend. I have had visions since I was an infant. Every single one has come or is coming true.It doesn’t matter at all to me, whether anyone else believes it. I do. and because I do, my life was literally saved once when Mt St Helen’s blew up and several times since.
If I wasn’t getting enough sleep, I wouldn’t be here now.

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goofsmom 01.03.09 at 1:18 am

Nijma,

In reference to years… yes.

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kat in your hat 01.03.09 at 1:21 am

mountainsong #158

Yes, very good idea.

Maybe that can even be a team. Grant Team. I don’t know about it. You are talking about writing a proposal for a grant? For physical space and equipment?

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mountainsong 01.03.09 at 1:22 am

I am actually starting to feel my qi very strongly. I amin a unique position (for me) in that I am pretty much free to do anything I wish this year. I have other things I do, but I am becoming more able to devote more time to this. It’s much easier to commit with some idea of where I plan to get to. And I plan to see all our goals realized before I pass over to the other side.

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invalidresponse 01.03.09 at 1:24 am

goodnight pumas…………..

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MKfromLA 01.03.09 at 1:26 am

#152 invalidresponse 01.03.09 at 1:08 am

I hate blindly searching the net…I always run into this kind of crap and remember just how third class citizen’s some of us are..more rights taken away JAN 1ST 2008..anti was just talking about this subject this morning….

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/28470933#28400090

—-

it never ends. Disgusting.

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kat in your hat 01.03.09 at 1:28 am

“The World’s 100 Most Powerful Women”

http://www.forbes.com/2008/08/27/most-powerful-women-biz-powerwomen08-cz_me_cs_0827women_land.html

(just posting, jus’ ’cause.)

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MKfromLA 01.03.09 at 1:28 am

#154 Nijma 01.03.09 at 1:08 am

MKfromLA
say what?
I think that was a California compliment.
==============================================

It was indeed a California compliment, Nijma.

There’s more where that came from.

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mountainsong 01.03.09 at 1:33 am

kat in your hat 01.03.09 at 1:21 am Well, I’m talking about establishing a Operational Grant, possible on a recurring schedule, that would provide us the opportunities of other non-profit organizations, eg, the Crisis Services, DD Services, Outreach programs, and a whole cornucopia of others.
such a grant requires much research and needs to be written and submitted in much the same form as a Business Plan. There are specific outlines for grant writing, very similar to writing papers in college.
Start with an introduction and statement of purpose.
Mission/Purpose
Show background supporting info that documents the need for such an organization. Then a plan of how the money’s would be budgeted and how shortfalls would be acquired.

All this is to demonstrate a successful outcome.
And then Conclude it and submit it.
It’s not a one time thing. I mean we might be awarded one grant for x amount of money which would cover x amount of expenses, but may need other sources of operating capital.
And ‘borrowing’ is out of the question. But large scale donations are there to be had and many orgs supplement grants with the donations. I know the YWCA does. The emergency and transitional housing director there is a friend. And I worked at several other non-profits, enough to observe the operation and get an idea how it all operates.
I mean, any business is only as effective as it’s accountant accurate and honest. So they are very committed and above board and very well accepted in the communities.
We can do that. We ARE doing that. Damn, Murphy is already on the way to international celebrity. lol

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kat in your hat 01.03.09 at 1:38 am

from “Women-Americans” website:

Quicklist of present women in Congress:
http://womenamericans.com/womenamericans/womengovernment.htm

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mountainsong 01.03.09 at 1:42 am

I think we have all been going thru ’stuff’ since the election. I know I have been in some turmoil over whether to follow some direction this year. Or just cast my fate to the wind.
So it’s taken awhile to make a decision.
But, ya know it’s like the story about the frogs….?
# frogs on the log, one decides to jump in the water. How many are left?
That kinda thing. I ‘decided’ I wanted to be part of this thing as best as I can, and learn as much from it as I can back in June. So I’ve been here ever since I mad that decision, but I haven’t really followed thru on that decision.
So, now, I’m thinking, if PUMA goes down (And I think we are going to grow) it wont be because I quit. Or because I think I shoulda done better.So, in the last couple days I decided to quit being so chickenshit and really jump in the deep water with the rest of ya.
And the water’s not bad.

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kat in your hat 01.03.09 at 1:43 am

(I have contact list I am finishing for action center. But it won’t be done until tomorrow.)

___________________
mountainsong:

Yes, I knew it took a lot of work and that there was a layout for it. Hmmm, that is hard work. I can see it would take a bit of time, and I know that the expenses and everything would have to be dead on. I think one day it will come to that, not sure about now. I really don’t know. I’ve been thinking about the grant thing for a while and it’s nice you have some background in grant writing.

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MKfromLA 01.03.09 at 1:43 am

Thank you kat.

xoxoxoxoxoxoxoxox to you too! and hugs (((((((((kat)))))))))))

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turndownobama 01.03.09 at 1:45 am

hillstheone 01.02.09 at 11:19 pm
TIME MAG – Lastly I’ve been thinking about TIME magazine putting the word “PUMA” on their 2008 buzzwords list.
Might it be fun for us to do a prowl on TIME next week, and send them short (& polite) emails as to “What PUMA means to me” ??!!!
===========================

Time’s explanation was pretty good but it sounded like Puma had ended with Denver. They did say it meant Party Unity My Ass! which I like — it means we’re now independent swing voters forever. I’d like Time to know that according to Nov 4 exit polls, 16% of McCain’s voters would have voted for Hillary.

I haven’t found anywhere to post comments that will be read by the public on this (except blogs).

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MKfromLA 01.03.09 at 1:46 am

#172 mountainsong

So, now, I’m thinking, if PUMA goes down (And I think we are going to grow) it wont be because I quit. Or because I think I shoulda done better.So, in the last couple days I decided to quit being so chickenshit and really jump in the deep water with the rest of ya.
And the water’s not bad.

-

and it’s gettin’ better & better

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kat in your hat 01.03.09 at 1:46 am

MKfromLA:

watcha gettin all mushy about?

xoxox to you too.

shoot.

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mountainsong 01.03.09 at 1:49 am

Anyway, I think its worth discussing with Murphy, and Mama, and Dances and EVERYONE else to see if we think it’s how we want to go, and I would love to be part of that process.
I mean, face it, alot of us don’t have the funds available to match the donations of others. And that’s really great that we can still do it this way and stay functional.
But wouldn’t it be wonderful not to have worry about core expenses? I don’t mean to stop donating. It’s going to get really tight in America. So we need to be really tight. We need to REALLY have our act together.
I see something coming together in pumasphere and I want to be part of it, one piece in the grand mosaic.

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kat in your hat 01.03.09 at 1:50 am

mountainsong #172

aw. xo.

Yes, I will be able to do some things. Definitely help out with certain things and prowls–no doubt.

I do have school starting up again soon and I have big writing projects. So, I am going to be very busy very soon. But I will always be able to help.

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kat in your hat 01.03.09 at 1:55 am

mountainsong #178

Did you see the thread discussion about Puma Action School/ center…

You know, that sort of thing would have to get grants. I don’t know how we could get grants as is…for internet grassroots group.

So a house, with property…a plan, then grant proposals…

Did you catch that thread by any chance? Well, I think it’s possible puma will get a physical address/ Headquarters one day–maybe, ya never know.

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mountainsong 01.03.09 at 1:59 am

kat in your hat 01.03.09 at 1:43 am

The man who taught the Grant writing class is a professor at Western Washington University and a very wealthy man. He developed and patented an educational progran that showed parents how to communicate with their infants with sign language and sounds. He applied for grants to develop and market it and was a near overnight success.
Since then, he became a serious major grant writer to lots of people and orgs.
This is something i’d really be into because i have some experience with non-profits, a little in business, with writing, alot in accounting, etc. I wouldn’t want anything for myself. Just knowing it happened would be enough to know we all did something that really mattered, with all this air we breathe.

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Nijma 01.03.09 at 2:00 am

Mk and kat I’m afraid to ask any more.
should I say something like
تحصل على غرفة
?
Mountainsong don’t look at me, none of my grant proposals have ever been funded. Don’t you have a project you’re working on? Can you use that for your proposal?

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mountainsong 01.03.09 at 2:03 am

kat in your hat 01.03.09 at 1:55 am Actually, i haven’t read that yet. But I will. I haven’t been there much and have much to catch up on. I had to make sure it really mattered first.

What it comes down to, is PUMA gets an Operating Headquarters. Everything gets hardcopied. And the Internet becomes our business tool. Remember, what the govt giveth, the govt taketh away.
If the Internet were ever blocked, we wouldn’t be entirely out of existence.

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mountainsong 01.03.09 at 2:06 am

Nijma 01.03.09 at 2:00 am Yes, I would certaily use the info I obtain, as well as every other PUMA source for background and need.
I got what that teacher was saying. Basically, there’s no room for error. A grant is only successful if successfully written, and that means, no mistakes.
It’s like doing your Master’s or Phd thesis.
You either do or you don’t, cuz ‘try’ doesn’t count.

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mountainsong 01.03.09 at 2:09 am

I might need some help, but I know i can do it. Alot of it is research-dependent. Matching the organization’s needs with specific donors/foundations.
And, OMG, all those MILLIONs of people out there who DIDN’T vote for BO.
Think of us as a 3 ft wide snowball that has begun rolling down Mt Ranier.

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Nijma 01.03.09 at 2:10 am

Puma is not going anywhere as long as sh*t is happening. Like obot sh*t, Favreau sh*t,…Everytime the MSM fawns over AA and lynches a woman the Pumas will be ready. and it has been effective so far because it is mobile and tech savvy and moves quickly to solve problems. There were how many women’s groups in Denver, and who made it possible for me to be there? Puma. I don’t want to say the other groups were elitist or snobbish, cuz everyone had their own thing going. Once I arrived more things fell into place, but without the Puma agility and openheartedness, it probably wouldn’t have happened. How many other people came out just because they knew someone would meet them at the airport.

If things quiet down, Pumas won’t have to do so much, just watch the news for stuff that has to be pounced on, and keep the pressure on Teh Messiah to enact the Puma agenda.

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kat in your hat 01.03.09 at 2:11 am

#182 Nijma:

هل أنت الغيورين الرضيع? انتشرت!

_____________________
mountainsong:
yes, I think murphy is interested in that down the road. I’ll help the teams now, and I’ll do the prowls. When that big next step comes up…I’ll help then too.

(I got your email from Dances. I’ll send you email tomorrow. Ok?)

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turndownobama 01.03.09 at 2:15 am

PUMAbear 01.02.09 at 10:12 pm
A couple of days ago I asked a question at Femisex regarding the inadequate responses of so called women’s organizations to the Rick Warren invocation outrage. She gave me a lengthy and detailed response which I thought smoked. I posted it but nobody made a response either on this blog or on hers. This can get quite discouraging to people who do extensive research and spend loads of time.
If some of you would go to the Femisex website and make a response it would show an attitude of sisterhood.
….
http://www.femisex.com/
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I went there and scrolled back through a few pages and didn’t see anything that looked like the item you described. Could you give the full url of the item?

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mountainsong 01.03.09 at 2:18 am

kat in your hat~~Jusqu’à ce que vous décidiez finalement que je suis sûr et ne vous ferais jamais mal et m’écrirais vraiment ou le Messager Immédiat, ou d’autre ~~~ je ne peux pas me faire plaindre être si heureux de vous voir de nouveau, la Chanson du Cœur.

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BillieJo 01.03.09 at 2:19 am

Talking about California, I signed up for their ERA movement today and will pass on info to the ERA PUMA group. And look at one of the things they are working on in Calif……….

November 19, 2008 – UPDATE – California Supreme Court Grants Review in Proposition 8 Legal Challenges

Today the California Supreme Court granted review in the legal challenges to Proposition 8, agreeing to hear the case and setting an expedited briefing schedule. If let stand, Proposition 8 — a California ballot initiative narrowly passed on November 4, 2008 — would eliminate the fundamental right of same-sex couples to marry. Although it granted review, the Court denied petitioners’ requests for an immediate stay of the implementation of Proposition 8.

On November 17, Equal Rights Advocates joined in the legal challenges to Proposition 8 by filing a writ petition along with The California Women’s Law Center.

For more information on the recent developments in this case, and to read the various writ petitions and the Court’s order, go to: http://www.courtinfo.ca.gov/courts/supreme/highprofile/prop8.htm

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mountainsong 01.03.09 at 2:20 am

Nijma 01.03.09 at 2:10 am

“If things quiet down, Pumas won’t have to do so much, just watch the news for stuff that has to be pounced on, and keep the pressure on Teh Messiah to enact the Puma agenda.”

OMG, u crack me up laughing! Are you from Chicago? LOL

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kat in your hat 01.03.09 at 2:21 am

whoah whoah whoah!!

Nijma….LOLOLOL.

Never mind that arabic post I put @ #187. I reversed it back to english and it did NOT translate the way I wanted it too!!

I put “LOL!”

and it translated to “Spread!”

wtH. lolol.

(nevermind)

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kat in your hat 01.03.09 at 2:23 am

BillieJo #190

Thanks BillieJo, oh and yeah, I saw your post up in ERA forum. Good stuff.

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mountainsong 01.03.09 at 2:23 am

BillieJo 01.03.09 at 2:19 am Thanks for that update, billieJo.

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mountainsong 01.03.09 at 2:25 am

kat in your hat 01.03.09 at 2:21 am hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha that’s TFF hahahahaha roflmssao!!!

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mountainsong 01.03.09 at 2:26 am

Damn good thing French ain’t like that!!!!

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kat in your hat 01.03.09 at 2:29 am

#192

the way I wanted it to*, not “too”*

ah geez.

LOL. “Spread!” how the heck does that come from “LOL!”…

aw gawd. Meanwhile, I have 20 windows open right now.
__________________________________
mountainsong, I think will just email you tomorrow, I think I have to go to bed soon. lol.

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mountainsong 01.03.09 at 2:34 am

Today is kind of a bum day in a way~~~~Some people called me earlier this evening to say they are afraid I’m going to get hurt if I go to the club again. One side of me is saying, “Fk that!” and the other is saying , ” Don’t go being a dumbshit, Ashleigh!” But tomorrow is Saturday night. Maybe I’ll be too busy doing PUMA stuff to even think about dancing for awhile.

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Nijma 01.03.09 at 2:34 am

kat I sure am glad you explained that, cuz i really would have wondered if you were going all California on me.
المتداول على الارض قبالة الحمار يضحك لي

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PUMAbear 01.03.09 at 2:40 am

Invalidresponse #188

IYou have to click on the title of the subject. I think it’s #3 but here it is. Anybody not interested can scroll through. A nice response to her comment would probably be supportive.

Where’s the Beef? Feminist Leaders on tiptoe with Submission to Obama and Rick Warren?
Wednesday, December 31, 2008 at 12:07 pm — admin

A concerned reader wrote us to ask if any Feminist organization has publicly denounced Obama’s decision to have Rick Warren give the invocation on Jan. 20th. Excellent question…we decided to do a quick round-up.

Sadly most have been utterly silent or tiptoe upset–That is a press release was issued but is not being actively disseminated and promoted. There is no OUTrage. Just a dilute press release w/o a press conference. (psst…dear Feminist leaders at NOW and Feminist Majority and NARAL…all u gotta do is call CNN or Fox or Today or …etc….and request a sitting! They will lap u up if you so choose!) As it is, one must search out the answer vs getting it on the 6 o’clock news!
So here are how things stand:

This statement came from Eleanor Smeal, President of the Feminist Majority Foundation:
“America is coming together for the historic Inauguration. Providing a visible ceremonial leadership role to a man who has chosen to use religion to divide rather than unite people is deeply troubling and disappointed.”

Rather tame Eleanor and notably this item was Left OFF the FM home page, but at least it is a little somin’somin’.

Here is the link:
http://feminist.org/news/newsbyte/uswirestory.asp?id=11445

The National Organization for Women, put out a press release on its home page (kudos), but did not feature a strong message of dissent from NOW pres, Kim Gandy. Here is that link:

http://www.now.org/press/12-08/12-18.html

NARAL has nothing, nada, zip, on its web site, and president Nancy Keenan was most supportive of Obama before Clinton had left the race. We called NARAL for any comment Nancy may have on the Warren Pick, and will let you know if they respond.

But the grassroots is afoot! I found a blogsite called 4th Wave Feminism.com that is running a petition to Obama asking that he change his mind about having the despicable Warren lead us in payer!…..Yuck, need a shower! Here is a link to the site and their petition! Sign it!!

http://www.fourthwavefeminism.com/2008/12/rick-warren-petition.html

Now for all you folks who wonder why Feminist Organizations are not up in arms, who wonder them nice feminist ladies want to keep their nice round Obama buttons on and not stir up too big a fuss…here is something culled from a Rick Warren website: Pastors.com, a ministry of Saddleback Church. It tells women how to place themselves in marriage—Under, Below, and be Neat about it you 2nd class XX humans.

Excerpt of what Warren thinks ought be taught to the gals:

“…just exactly what does {submission} mean?
The Greek word for “submit” is hupotasso. Hupo means “under” and tasso means “to place in order.” The compound word hupotasso means “to place under or in an orderly fashion.” Paul didn’t dislike women, he liked order! He advocated order in the church, order in government, order in business, and, yes, order in the home…
God granted women a measure of freedom in submission that we can learn to enjoy.
It is a relief to know that as a wife and mother I am not totally responsible for my family. I have a husband to look to for counsel and direction. I can rely on his toughness when I am too soft and his logic when I am too emotional.”

Nothing here for women to get worked up about at all…really, to get worked up might make Feminist leaders seem too emotional! Instead we must Thank the Lord for a “Measure of Freedom” and look to a man to give us logic. Oh and don’t forget that to exercise control over our own bodies makes us equivalent to Hitler per the esteemed Preachy Teachy Man Wonder Warren. PUKEY. Enough to kill ur appetite for good!

This is the culture that Obama is giving national relevance to. (Hmmm, Wonder if Obam would give Warren the national stage if he preached that blacks ought be submissive to whites…yeah, trust me…Warren would be safe for a Jan. in SoCal if that were the case.) This is the roast beast Obama is having to the National dinner for the U.S. to feast upon! Eat it up Kiddies, cause Feminist Leaders are NOT leading loudly for us. We CAN’T hear YOU!

Link: http://legacy.pastors.com/RWMT/article.asp?ID=122&ArtID=3908%20

* Feminist Majority
* misogyny
* Naral
* NOW
* Obama
* rick warren

*

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mountainsong 01.03.09 at 2:40 am

lol, I alwasy start bitching about how slow this POS is and then feel really stupid when I realize I have a bunch of windows open.

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Nijma 01.03.09 at 2:41 am

mountainsong, yeah, chicago; if the bots get rambunctious, there’ll be plenty of prowling to do, but if they behave, things can stay quiet. If Teh One enacts our agenda and stops dissing women, our reason for living will be gone and we can go to the dance club all week long. On the other hand, if it’s all bit*hes and ho*s and Ludicris, and no jobs for women, we’ll have a lot of free time to blog, and no money for cover charges.

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kat in your hat 01.03.09 at 2:44 am

mountainsong #198:

Listen to them. Don’t go back there for a while maybe. Shouldn’t go somewhere you don’t feel totally safe.

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Nijma 01.03.09 at 2:47 am

there’s only one club mountainsong? sounds like you need some variety.
ليلة ليلة ، لا تدعوا علة في السرير لدغة

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kat in your hat 01.03.09 at 2:47 am

#199 Nijma

LOLOL!

did you mean: rolling on the floor laughing your ass off? I am just *guessing!*…my translator: http://translation.babylon.com/Arabic

got this: “Working on the ground off donkey laugh me”

lolol

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PUMAbear 01.03.09 at 2:47 am

I was looking at the 4th wave feminism blog and thought WOW if pumas had their own online magazines featuring cooking, health, sports (men and women) fashion, etc. we could stop buying Ms. and Oprah and get our own advertisers.

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kat in your hat 01.03.09 at 2:49 am

mountainsong #201

exactly. open windows muck it up and slow it down.

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Nijma 01.03.09 at 2:49 am

LOLOLOLOL
Aren’t these machine tranlations amazing? and it keeps you know who,.. well… shhhhh they won’t know we’re here.
I have a slight preference for google
http://translate.google.com/translate_t?hl=en&langpair=ar|en#

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BillieJo 01.03.09 at 2:50 am

I vote to also be on the HRC watch. Hehehehe…………as if you all didn’t already know that.

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kat in your hat 01.03.09 at 2:50 am

PUMAbear #206

One of the best things about pumas is that they have an endless list of ideas. Really. Tons of new ideas everyday. It’s impressive.

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BillieJo 01.03.09 at 2:51 am

Good night PUMAs. May we be the nightmare Obama wasn’t expecting in 2009.

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Nijma 01.03.09 at 2:53 am

ليلة ليلة بوماس

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mountainsong 01.03.09 at 2:57 am

Nijma 01.03.09 at 2:41 am I am so laughing my ass off. You are right, I need a change, don’t know about variety, but i’m glad i don’t live in chicago. If I did I’d prolly hang out in halsted or the north end. But i don’t know.
LOL When I was 15 I ran away from home in Michigan to Chicago.

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mountainsong 01.03.09 at 2:59 am

PUMAbear 01.03.09 at 2:47 am YESSSS!!!!!

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Nijma 01.03.09 at 2:59 am

and when you were 16 you ran right back.
wish I had someplace to run to

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mountainsong 01.03.09 at 3:02 am

kat~~ I gotta save this for some future day~~
“Working on the ground off donkey laugh me”

WOTGODLM

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kat in your hat 01.03.09 at 3:04 am

216 Nijma
LOL!…

WOTGODLM!

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mountainsong 01.03.09 at 3:05 am

Nijma 01.03.09 at 2:59 am I didn’t really have a place to run to… I just ran. When I was 18, I finally left for good and went to LA/Hollywood.
But ‘running to’ is always much better than ‘running from.’

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kat in your hat 01.03.09 at 3:05 am

Meant mountainsong!…lol. #216

I.must.close.all.windows.!!

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PUMAbear 01.03.09 at 3:10 am

Sleep tight pumas!

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kat in your hat 01.03.09 at 3:11 am

Oh, how many have run to LA/ Hollywood?

man oh man.

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kat in your hat 01.03.09 at 3:12 am

PUMAbear: gnight to you. xo

I am almost going as well.

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mountainsong 01.03.09 at 3:14 am

Well, there ar a few other clubs here, but this one is most tolerant. I don’t want to go anywhere that I feel I need a gun.
But I refuse to live in fear. Screw that! It’s the fear that holds women back. Alot of people would argue with that, I’m sure.
I got the crap beat out of me several times a week all the while growing up. The only thing that ever made it better was to stand up and fight back~~~harder. Because the alternative was never going to change.
BO is just taking it all to another level.

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mountainsong 01.03.09 at 3:17 am

kat in your hat 01.03.09 at 3:11 am Way too many. At one time, in 1963, it was estimated that Hollywood grew by 1000 young people every 2-4 weeks. Survival wasn’t easy.

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kat in your hat 01.03.09 at 3:17 am

#212 Nijma:

your google translation said, “night night pumas”..

*my* arabic translator said you said:
“On the night of the night of pumas”

pfft. I was like…huh?

anyway, gnight nijma: ليلة ليلة بوماس

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mountainsong 01.03.09 at 3:18 am

It was a migration that changed how we lived.

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kat in your hat 01.03.09 at 3:21 am

mountainsong:

Ok, but you just be careful. Don’t be scared, but smart and careful. Also, don’t go out of your way to attract too much attention if the same sort are there…or if you sense something going down. You know what I mean. Bring pepper spray too. Def. go and have fun…but just be careful and leave if you sense anything. k?
_____________

Yes, I would never think to go to Hollywood/ LA if running away. Too easy to sort of fall in the cracks there I think. Maybe I’d go to certain parts of Cali in bay area…not sure.

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mountainsong 01.03.09 at 3:22 am

I don’t know about other languages, but i don’t think the latin languages directly translate. Changes in sentence structure and word can change the context and intent. That’s why so many challenge the authenticity of the Scriptures.

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mountainsong 01.03.09 at 3:29 am

Bay Area is the same, just different. If that makes any sense. I saw how Cali was changing and moved to Oregon in 1971, then to Washington in 1981.

I don’t know if i’ll even go, really. I just don’t like living under threat.
Years ago, when I finally realized I have to be who I am no matter what, the transformation people saw was so radical, people didn’t recognize me at first and then they threatened my life~~~twice with hanging and once by cutting me up and feeding me to the salmon in the river.
So~~~ I left~~before they could all drink enough whiskey to get the balls to actually do it. And so far, I haven’t had to kill anyone.

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mountainsong 01.03.09 at 3:32 am

lol Come with me and protect me.
Actually, i think it’s much harder in hollywood now. I’ve heard it degenerated badly~~~which is really kinda hard to even imagine.

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kat in your hat 01.03.09 at 3:37 am

mountainsong:

aw, you be careful. Seems like lots of people have bee rough to you.

Really, I don’t know about Hollywood. I imagine it was worse back in late 70’s but I do not know. It was definitely worse in NYC back in late 70’s, 80’s, early 90’s. Now, NYC is like Disney World. Not really as rough as it once was at all. It’s the “greenest” big city…safest big city…and Times Square is literally Disney…hardly any old sex theaters at all. All cleaned up. Subways don’t even have graffiti anymore.

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mountainsong 01.03.09 at 3:39 am

The Center for Advancement of Public Policy

For Equity and Accountability

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The Center also undertakes sponsored and unsponsored research, including projects directed toward achieving greater equity in education and in testing.

http://www.capponline.org/index.html

Center for Advancement of Public Policy
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kat in your hat 01.03.09 at 3:41 am

mountainsong:

I gotta go to bed honey.

brb.

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mountainsong 01.03.09 at 3:44 am

kat in your hat 01.03.09 at 3:37 am WOW!!!! That’s just amaaaazing!!! NYC is changing.
About 10 days before I left Michigan, My Dad took me down in the basement and told me that I could either stay and live in his house, by his family rules, or I could go out into the big old world and live by my own. What a gift!
I asked him for a quarter, flipped it in the air and said, “Heads, Los angeles, Tails, New York City.”
It came up Heads and that was the fork in the road I took when I was 18.

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mountainsong 01.03.09 at 3:49 am

Good night, Babe. xoxoxo

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kat in your hat 01.03.09 at 3:54 am

Oh yeah, NYC is very different. Giuliani played a big part in that actually…crime rates (tons more cops), broken windows theory (if you fix it, you won’t want to break it–keep it clean), plus welfare reform, and getting the homeless taken care of, stopping graffiti on subways and squeegie men and panhandling (part of broken windows theory)….and so much more–getting a lot of the sex joints shut down, etc.

Then Bloomberg made smoking illegal in restaurants, raised prices on cigs by 3 X, and made recycling mandatory in every single house, business, school, etc. More green buses and buildings and taxis…etc.

Oh and yeah, I know about flipping a quarter and going somewhere…*and* I have also been on my own since a pretty young age.

But I’ll talk to you more soon. I’m sleepy.

gnight. sweet dreams. xo.
________________________
Montagne. Chanson.

Faire attention autour des étranger, surtout les hommes. Quelquefois les gens peuvent vous étonner et est dangereux. Je sais que vous êtes intelligent et vous ferez attention. Essayer d’obtenir le bon sommeil. Vous avez fait le bon travail ce soir.

Se rappeler, continue à embrassant juste l’amour bien que le monde peut sembler quelquefois cruel. Vous serez heureux et vous trouverez l’amour pourvu que vous gardez votre coeur ouvre.

Bonne nuit. Les étreintes et Embrasse.

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mountainsong 01.03.09 at 4:12 am

kat~~Mon coeur est ouvert. En ce moment il étreint votre chanson et je vous aime. Oui, parce que je veux seulement pour votre bonheur. Beaucoup de baisers et bras warms pour vos nuits les plus froides ~~~

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turndownobama 01.03.09 at 6:05 am

PUMAbear 01.03.09 at 2:40 am
IYou have to click on the title of the subject. I think it’s #3 but here it is. Anybody not interested can scroll through. A nice response to her comment would probably be supportive.

Where’s the Beef? Feminist Leaders on tiptoe with Submission to Obama and Rick Warren?
Wednesday, December 31, 2008 at 12:07 pm — admin

A concerned reader wrote us to ask if any Feminist organization has publicly denounced Obama’s decision to have Rick Warren give the invocation on Jan. 20th. Excellent question…we decided to do a quick round-up.

————–

Here’s the direct url:

http://www.femisex.com/content/where’s-beef-feminist-leaders-tiptoe-with-submission-obama-and-rick-warren#comment-506

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turndownobama 01.03.09 at 6:35 am

Woops, something doesn’t like the apostrophe in that link.
In Chrome browser it worked if I pasted it into the box.
Anyway currently it’s the third entry down, “Wednesday, December 31, 2008 at 12:07 pm”

So I posted a thanks to them.

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Notyoursweetie 01.03.09 at 6:36 am

It will be an interesting day in the Senate next Tuesday, with both parties trying to block a senator from the other side/same side o flimsy reasons
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2009/01/03/senate-games-racial-chicken-part-deux/

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TrishfromCanada 01.03.09 at 6:37 am

good morning Puma’s

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sue66 01.03.09 at 7:41 am

With all the bad and getting worse news stories around, I want to post this god news news story. Women big rig drivers are not all that common and this woman is breaking the traditions of her Asian upbringing and doing what many still consider mans job.

http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/article/561188

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DancesWithPumas 01.03.09 at 11:19 am

Just got back from trying to take pix of billboard… camera battery was dead, and it was/is raining … recharging battery now.

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murphy 01.03.09 at 11:24 am

SOS posted,

take it upstairs!

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SadStateOfAffairs 01.03.09 at 1:21 pm

DWP,

Where’s the billboard, I’ll be out today and perhaps I can get a shot and email it to you.

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