Morning Spit Take

by murphy on December 3, 2008

in 30% Solution,Action,Circular Firing Squad,Media Bias

Ruth Marcus in the Washington Post this morning gives succor to the enemy. Yeah, Larry Summers is right Ruth — math is too hard for girls. Puma comments needed. Send Ms. Marcus an email telling her that her science is junk, her analysis laughable, and her contribution to the public debate mind-numbingly incoherent.

marcusr@washpost.com

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DancesWithPumas 12.03.08 at 9:29 am

SouthernGAL68 12.03.08 at 1:12 am
dances … are u in Boston?
—————
Southern CA, SouthernGal68.
NYC transplant.
This is in reference to comment #67, which was in reference to convo stared in comment #24, but prior to my comments #44 and #51, but after your comments in #35 and #38. See #17.

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DancesWithPumas 12.03.08 at 9:36 am

Zee,
Of interest to me that the republicans didn’t seem to mind too much(read: at all) about the US constitution, the 2000 bogus selection of g. dumbya bush by the supreme court, the suspension of of election rules, etc. back then when their boy was crowned president, but seem to be all about these things this year. They could have started their redwhiteandblue patriot movement back then… but didn’t.
Is it any wonder that many of us on this blog do.not.like.them. and question their motives for being here?

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Your northern neighbor 12.03.08 at 9:36 am

Why Is the Left So Threated By My Poll?
By John Ziegler:

35 % of McCain voters got 10 or more of 13 multiple choice questions correct.
18% of Obama voters got 10 or more of 13 questions correct.
McCain voters knew which party controls congress by a 63-27 margin.
Obama voters got the “congressional control” question wrong by 43-41.
Those that got “congressional control” correct voted 56-43 for McCain.
Those that got “congressional control” wrong voted 65-35 for Obama.
Those “exposed” to FOX News got “congressional control” correct 64-25 (+39)
Those ‘exposed” to CNN got “Congressional control” correct 48-38 (+10)
Those “exposed” to network news got “Congressional control” correct 48-39 (+9)
Those “exposed” to print media got “Congressional control” correct 52-37 (+15)
Those “exposed” to MSNBC got “Congressional control” correct 55-35 (+20)
Those “exposed” to talk radio got “Congressional control” correct 61-29 (+32)
Voters in the South had the best response rate on “Congressional control” (+22)
Voters in the Northeast had the worst response rate on “Congressional control” (+9)
Those “exposed” to FOX News voted 70-29 for McCain.
Those “exposed” to CNN voted 63-37 for Obama.
Those “exposed” to MSNBC voted 73-26 for Obama.
Those “exposed” to network newscasts voted 62-37 for Obama.
Those “exposed” to national newspapers voted 64-36 for Obama
Those “exposed” to talk radio voted 61-38 for McCain.
Those that could associate Bill Ayers’ name/story with Obama voted 52-48 for McCain.
Those that knew Obama had made negative comments about “coal power plants” voted 76-24 for McCain.
Those that knew Obama had his opponents knocked off the ballot in his first campaign voted 66-34 for McCain.
McCain voters did poorly (only 42% correct) on the Keating question and, in general, the voters did universally worse on questions where the negative information was about their candidate.
Women under 55 did worse than they might have by guessing on four of the thirteen questions yet 95% of them knew that Palin was the candidate with a pregnant teenage daughter. — Even 95% of those in this demographic group who didn’t know “Congressional control” got this question correct.
Those “exposed” to MSNBC scored 90% correct on the three Palin questions (including an incredible 98% on the pregnant teenage daughter question), while those not exposed to MSNBC averaged 84% correct on those three questions

http://foxforum.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/12/03/jziegler_obama/

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indy 12.03.08 at 9:43 am

Murphy – I sure spit my coffee out! This is ridiculous. Notyousweetie did a thread on Summers last week and this was my comment:

“My grandmother came over from Europe when she was about 13 years old. Never went to school, couldn’t write her name (used an X). But nobody could beat her at math. When she went to the store, my mother said, nobody could short-change her.

My three children excel in math. I told them it’s their great-grandmother’s gene. In fact, I reminded my daughter of that just the other day. My daughter, who in second, and fifth grades scored in the 99 percentile in math. My daughter who at l6, assisted her Chemistry teacher (a female), teach chemistry. Her teacher would split the large class in two sections. Those that needed additional tutoring would come to my house after school. Everybody passed in her class by the end of the year.

My daughter also tutored college chemistry and calculus.

She also worked temporarily for a major company, grading the mathematical problems for the national standardized tests for the US. In two months she was promoted to Third Reader. Initially, the tests are scored by two readers, if they come up with different scores, the Third Reader’s decision stands. These math questions had no multiple choice. The readers had to score on how the students arrived at their conclusion and if it was correct.

Currently, she’s a 1st grade teacher and taught her first graders about the atom, gases, etc. She did experiments and had them keep a journal. They did hypotheses in the journal. They actually understood the basic concepts of science, GIRLS and boys. She teaches at a Title I school and they didn’t even have Science books. All she had were the benchmarks for 1st grade and had to create her own Science curriculum. She went well beyond the benchmarks. By the way, the highest grade went to an African American girl.

Also, science was my favorite subject. To me math was boring, because there was no challenge for me.

I don’t usually go in detail about my daughter, but Summers and the MSM angered me by their ignorance.

There are a lot of females out there who just need a chance and teachers who show the self-doubters that they, too, can excel.”

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admin 12.03.08 at 9:43 am

good link yournorthern, thanks.

RD reminds us of this unforgettable video. Ickes at the RBC on May 31:

4&eurl=http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/&feature=player_embedded

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Headclunker 12.03.08 at 9:47 am

FEC Team Report – Murphy Check Your Email, we need you to help us complain.

The FEC team has identified $1.3 million as 890 BO campaign contribution exceedances and issued approximately twenty complaints.

All unsubmitted exceedances are compiled in a table (Table II) and have been forwarded. Trish has completed the Final FEC Summary Report and will forward an extract as Table I

We studied $356 million of BO’s campaign funds, by state. Now I know math is hard for me, as a female, but I know that is not $600 million.

Where’s the money BO?

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admin 12.03.08 at 9:47 am

indy, yep. They also need gender-blind peer review of articles. Gender-blind review of grants and job applications.

Scientists may be the least likely group to believe that unconscious bias affects their judgment (they often have a near-religious faith in their own rational, logical abilities and since they tend to “reason” that women are not inherently inferior on an individual basis, they will not believe that they ARE in fact biased against women on an individual case-by-case basis). Mountainsong, i think, had a link to an excellent excellent article by a scientist who has a very interesting personal perspective on this)

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admin 12.03.08 at 9:48 am

will do Headclunker.

thanks!

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GoPumaGo 12.03.08 at 9:54 am

I got it now. We put Hillary in as President to fix the mess and then have Sarah Palin for VP to clear up the corruption in DC.

We put Berg in as Attorney General to prosecute. Did you hear him on the radio on Monday. Was he excited. listen to the beginning of the radio program and then he hangs up the phone. You will not regret listening to him. go here

http://www.plainsradio.com/show.html

on the right hand column click on the yellow radio show for 12/1/2008 Scotts early monday show with Leo Donofrio and Cort Wrotnowski

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Headclunker 12.03.08 at 9:56 am

The physiology attributed to the difference between male and female thought process is related to communications between the right and left side of the brain. The connection is apparently generally much more substancial in women than men. The implication is that our thoughts and feelings are more integrated into our thinking. On the downside, it is supposed to interfere with some thought processes that are more efficient if compartmentalized.

The active presence of women in a society is indicative of a higher function society. I always look sideways at a group that is not diverse. If they do not include women, it is a negative reflection on them.

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gypsy rebel 12.03.08 at 10:02 am

Well, how many “women” (CEOs) coming to the table for bailouts?? How many flew in on jets? Makes ya wonder!!

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indy 12.03.08 at 10:04 am

Murphy, It reminds me of female authors in the 1800s who used initials or pen names, in order to be heard. I guess females are going to “go back to the future” in order to achieve recognition and respect for their abilities. Maybe we should take the gender question off all applications and use first initials instead of first names. If it can be done for races and ethnic groups, why not us females?

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gypsy rebel 12.03.08 at 10:05 am

Oh Lordy – ANOTHER news conference by B. Hussein!! Making me sick!! What NOW!!!!!!

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lilibet 12.03.08 at 10:06 am

The following is a quote from the link that Karen provided in #33 downstairs.

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As WND reported, Kreep filed a legal challenge in California with presidential candidate Alan Keyes as a plaintiff questioning Obama’s birthplace.

The complaint urges the California secretary of state
to refuse to allow the state’s 55 Electoral College votes to be cast until the issue of Obama’s eligibility to hold office is resolved.

The case is one of more than a dozen legal challenges brought over Obama’s citizenship. The cases all cite Obama’s clouded history and the U.S. Constitution’s requirement that a president be a natural born citizen.

Sign WND’s online petition to insist on release of Barack Obama’s birth certificate.

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GoPumaGo 12.03.08 at 10:24 am

I just went on Mapquest. distance is about 435 miles and a little less than 8 hours. so if I were to leave at midnight I would be there at 8 am. Then I can leave DC and come back up to Philly to meet friends on Saturday. With gas prices down low it is a deal. I will plan on coming with some friends.

I wanna see a million people there friday. that would be so cool and make MSM. Now for signs how about

Hillary for President.

and of course a huge sign that says

Go Puma Go

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indy 12.03.08 at 10:25 am

Canada Free Press has a good article on the attorney who filed to have the US Constitution amended to remove the “natural born citizen” requirement removed. Read this:

“According to AIPNews.com, Sarah P. Herlihy is employed by Kirkland & Ellis LLP of where else… Chicago.

Upon looking at the firm, and the partners, I found that Bruce I. Ettelson, P.C., is Member of finance committees of U.S. Senators Barack Obama and Richard Durbin.

In addition, Jack S. Levin, P.C., another partner who, in December 2002 was presented the ”Illinois Venture Capital Association’s lifetime achievement award for service to the private equity/venture capital community” presented by Sen. Barack Obama.

So it sure looks like Obama’s people have looked into the matter of “Natural born” as far back as early 2006.

So, the bottom line: there IS something to this whole birth certificate fiasco. Barack Obama has lawyers working behind the scenes to create a backlash against those who believe only a natural born citizen should be able to send our sons and daughters to war.”

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/6687

And CNP asks the question:

“And the mainstream media is where on this?”

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TXRepGirl 12.03.08 at 10:42 am

How long before something is up on the site about the results of the FEC investigation? I know some Reps who would really be interested in this info and could possibly make it go viral really quickly.

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BrianH 12.03.08 at 10:43 am

mountain;
re: the credit crunch. I should really read a whole page of comments before replying to any — your contributions on the previous page were impressive! But … my brain can’t keep it all in suspense at once. :(

A note I may have mentioned once before, suggested here by “Greek and Roman writers thought that the seed of two men might both contribute to the character of the child.” It seems they may have been right. It is now thought that 20% of births are actually chimeras, the equivalent of very early Siamese twin mergers, such that different body tissues have different fathers, or are from fraternal twins (or more!) from the same father. Various body parts would thus have different DNA signatures, a nightmare for forensics.

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TXRepGirl 12.03.08 at 10:43 am

I considered sending them the above quote but figured it wouldn’t make sense to them so out of context.

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BrianH 12.03.08 at 10:46 am

indy #4;
Holy Humility, woman! Your daughter is the kind of person who should be bragged about and read about and written about and talked about by all about!

Didja hear the one about not keeping your light under a bushel (basket)?

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BrianH 12.03.08 at 10:47 am

About the Zogby poll:

I must confess, it’s very satisfying to see one’s opinions so resoundingly confirmed by the facts. That one is going to get some distribution, I promise you.

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NewOrleansPuma 12.03.08 at 10:58 am

#7Murphy: And lest anyone forget as many have, one of the finest acts of the Bill Clinton Administration was to Require that grants and research proposals given by the National Instituties of Health must include a component regarding women..Where differences do exist in the biological functions of men and women and where these differences are not found delineated appropriately in the appropriate places… research re preventative and curative areas of health care,
being done with our tax money, women’s health issues are ignored. And,fantasies, sexist “differences” continue to predominate in the culture. One of the amazing results of Clinton’s requirement was the finding of the fact that in certain cases of long standing…over years…of so called hardened Alzheimer’s in women, administration of a set of hormonal interventions did in some cases totally clear…correct..totally clear any effect of Alzheimer’s in a certain percentage of these women. This would have never been found had he not mandated a requirement which in turn pragmatically “pushed” researches to imagine beyond what they otherwise might have done to begin with even in proposals.
I do not know what the situtation is now in requirements re these things at NIH, but had for example such requirements been set up years ago, the major longitutdional years over years heart study which had been the model for diagnosis and treatment of heart care, and included men only, may have rather shown what we now know better..that women’s symptoms of heart attack or problems do not necessarily follow those of men’s and those so long used in the medical profession with the help of the male only studies.

We have a very long way to go here and clearly in the culture.
but way to go we must and We Will.

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indy 12.03.08 at 11:06 am

That Zogby poll just goes to show you how limited and biased the info was in the MSM (excluding FOX).

I also blame the voters. I’m an Independent and I have always vetted the candidates. Even when my children were young and my time was limited. I would wake up 5 o’clock and read the newspaper before the children got up. That’s when the newspapers reported most the news.

Today, if I read an article, I always think there’s more to it than what I read. Again, thank God for the internet.

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mountainsong 12.03.08 at 11:19 am

How can Obama be offering tax cuts to the middle class when he’s not even confirmed by the electoral college yet? When the top doesn’t play by the rules, we can hardly expect others to play by them.

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admin 12.03.08 at 11:27 am

hope sinks posted,

take it upstairs!

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admin 12.03.08 at 11:30 am

NOP — yup.

here’s that link I was looking for earlier.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2006/07/060714174545.htm

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GoPumaGo 12.03.08 at 11:38 am

Brian H

Please read wikipidia on chimera. It claims only 40 human chimera ever reported. 20% sounds kind of high.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chimera_(genetics)

“Chimerism is rare in human beings: there have been only about 40 reported cases”

Although there may be some people having new thoughts and information to change our knowledge on this topic.

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BrianH 12.03.08 at 11:40 am

corr: Ziegler poll

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BrianH 12.03.08 at 11:46 am

Anyone passing on that poll, do John Z. a favor and correct his typo in the title before sending: it should say “Threatened” instead of “Threated”. ;)

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TerryDo 12.03.08 at 11:52 am

O.K.you guys, it is lonely upstairs!

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Pookie 12.03.08 at 11:54 am

Glenn Beck:

Harry Reid is a piece of crap

Eloquent? No. True? Yes. Harry Reid is a piece of crap. He said the Iraq war was ‘lost’ and the surge wouldn’t work. He said that coal is ‘killing us’. Called President Bush a ‘loser’ (classy, Harry). Called Alan Greenspan a ‘political hack’. He tried to take credit for Rush’s $2 million raised for charity. That said, could this guy be a bigger waste of space? The answer is yes. Despite the budget for the Capital Visitors Center being three times over budget ($621 million) and way behind schedule — Reid said this about the new air conditioning: “My staff tells me not to say this, but I’m going to say it anyway…In the summer because of the heat and high humidity, you could literally smell the tourists coming into the Capitol. It may be descriptive but it’s true.” Hey, Harry, did you ever consider that the foul smell coming from Washington is NOT coming from the tourists?

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Pookie 12.03.08 at 12:03 pm

Dennis Miller unloads on Harry Reid
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miXAZj-tcGI

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Zee 12.03.08 at 12:38 pm

#2, Dances…yes, a big difference. Republicans just brushed off democracy so long as their thug benefited, unlike DemPUMAs, who could not accept a candidate who “won” by fraud. James Baker (who went on to represent Saudis against the US victims of 9/11, btw) was the equivalent of our Pelosi/Dean in aiding the fraud. He was the mouthpiece in Florida spreading BS about how “bad” hand-counting ballots was…meanwhile, in Texas, Bush as Gov signed into law requiring hand recounts. Because they’re the recognized standard.

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Thanks, Murphy, for the heads up on this article. I couldn’t see a comments section. Did you note that she concluded that Summers’ comment was merely “boneheaded?” What is that? Code for a pass, as originated with Obama?

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