Suckers.

by murphy on December 1, 2008

The myth of the small donor is being exposed.

obama is an old-fashioned, back-room-dealing, fat-cat-pleasing, beholden, bought and paid for politician. Just like gwb.

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1 murphy 12.01.08 at 5:12 pm: will have a report from our FECK obama team soon.

obama is an absurdity. more kafka than fun, unfortunately.
2 Pookie 12.01.08 at 5:13 pm: I posted this downstairs earlier I thought it was worth reposting:

This will make your blood boil. This lady does a great job of explaining herself and the 2nd amendment. This is good.

Even if you usually don’t watch video clips, be sure to PLAY this one!

This is a must watch video; after watching the video all I can say is: Watch their faces as she speaks. She understands the 2nd Amendment in a way that they never will. Pass this clip to everyone you know.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4069761537893819675&p>
3 webfoot 12.01.08 at 5:14 pm: I forget what this prowl was called but here’s a part of the response from one of my senators.

“Please know that I share your concerns about the integrity of our voting system. I believe that the right to vote is one of the most sacred rights of American citizenship and ensuring that votes are counted is essential to our democracy. Please rest assured, I will be paying close attention to election-related issues as they unfold during the 110th Congress. Please keep in touch.”
4 webfoot 12.01.08 at 5:18 pm: auto bailout prowl- part of the email response from one of my senators:

“I want the auto industry to remain viable and continue to support the millions of jobs around the country which depend on its success. However, I cannot support providing funds without assurances that the automakers have a strategy to restructure and become viable, competitive companies. The auto industry cannot continue to follow a failed business model and then ask for help. I will need to be convinced that the loans will not only save jobs, but that industry leaders will take restructuring seriously and work to reinvigorate their industry. If the federal government- funded by working and taxpaying families- is expected to explore financial aid to these corporations, then I expect to hear about sacrifices that industry management will make during these tough times. Thank you for sharing your views with me about this important issue, and I will keep your comments in mind. Please do not hesitate to contact me again in the future.”
5 Pookie 12.01.08 at 5:20 pm: Team Obama:”All I can tell you is that it is just pure garbage.”

Team Obama Calls Birth Cert. Request Garbage

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According to the WorldNetDaily headline above, that was the retort of an Obama campaign spokesperson when asked about complaints requesting that Senator Obama produce a valid Birth Certificate to prove that he is constitutionally eligible to be President of the United States.

Article 2, Section 1, of the Constitution of the United States, states, “No person except a natural born citizen of the United States, at the time of adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President.”

The Constitution of the United States is NOT “garbage” and furthermore, securing the rights of the people under the Constitution is NOT “garbage”!

The Obama campaign’s response is an elitist, condescending slap in the face to patriotic Americans. No one is above the law and Team Obama cannot make the question of Obama’s eligibility go away by disrespecting the American people – and, by inference, the Constitution of the United States.

That’s why we just filed an action that Senator Obama will not be able to ignore… an action that WILL NOT GO AWAY!

In fact, in my humble opinion… we will ONLY “LOSE” if we do NOT have the resources we need to carry on for as long as it takes, and we will “win” as long as we can carry on this fight (more on that later).

SO PLEASE KEEP READING… I promise that when you’re done, you will agree that we have filed the mother of all actions.

Constitution and the integrity of our electoral process?

The Obama campaign has a crack team of high-priced law firms – that’s not three lawyers but THREE LAW FIRMS – that will use every means that money can buy to fight this action.
6 DeadGirl 12.01.08 at 5:32 pm: Pookie 12.01.08 at 5:13 pm

Pookie, I don’t have time right now to see the video, but my feeling is that if some folks in Mumbai had the lawful right to bear arms, there would have been a lot less carnage…
7 Your northern neighbor 12.01.08 at 5:39 pm: To grow and to sustain

#106 Sunshinelvr 12.01.08 at 3:28 pm wrote:
…it saddens me to see how many Pumas no longer support us here. why did they quit ? the fight is not over! Did we just come together for only a season? The fight for ,equality, truth and justice goes on …and on! The More fighters, the better! Let me entreat you lurkers to post with us and work with us…
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There are probably many reasons for why this is happening, some of them are likely out of anyone’s control, but I believe there is something we can work on immediately to improve this.

I suggest we need to work on two fronts: We need to work on our growth, but it is just as important to sustain our existing membership.

Some initial thoughts regarding our existing membership are:

We should have a bi-weekly or monthly newsletter to all members; the purpose is to inform as well as to say hi. (Out of sight, out of mind)

Polls are fun and very effective in obtaining interests and feedback. Polls for finding out topics of interest that are most appealing to Pumas should be administered regularly on the blog or thru the newsletters.

In my opinion, we must focus on topics and issues that would resonate with the majority of Pumas in order to maintain interests and supports.

PUMA means more than Hillary, more than Nobama, and more than the DNC. The day PUMA disappears is also the day Democracy, along with the basic human goodness and fairness die.
8 KarenWI 12.01.08 at 5:46 pm: **puff** *** puff** Good Grief Murphy! You don’t stay in one thread long enough for me to catch my breath!!! ***gasp*** Tough on old-timers like me! ***wheeze***
9 scarlet 12.01.08 at 5:55 pm: Pookie 12.01.08 at 5:11 pm

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4069761537893819675&p>

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Thanks for the post. The speaker’s parents and many other victims would have surv ived if she had been permitted by law to carry her gun in her purse. Taking away gun rights is just another means of our awful legislators to have control over us. I don’t have a gun and don’t want one, but there are those who do want to keep their guns for their own reasons.
10 atypical 12.01.08 at 5:57 pm: Sunshinelvr and your northern neighbor
I am an older PUMA who comments intermittently, have done some prowls as my capabilities have allowed, and have donated when able. I often lurk and sometimes feel left out and sometimes offended by some posters who say they don’t want to work with people they do not know well. I have offered to work on the BO bc issue, but have not heard anything back in the way of e-mail request for assistance. The group seems to be closed except to a few who compliment each other back and forth and seem to ignore the rest of us.
We will not grow if we are exclusionary, but we do need to make sure that we are not infiltrated to death EITHER.
I despise Obama and the Democratic Party and leadership. I despise the media and all of those who could speak out about this travesty and haven’t. Meanwhile our country is being sold down the proverbial river. I am deeply saddened that Hillary and Bill are part of this sham.
11 mkp651 12.01.08 at 6:04 pm: Dances if you are around, just wanted to let you know that the letter and data are on their way. Sent them priority mail this afternoon. I also sent you email at the action center.
12 KarenWI 12.01.08 at 6:07 pm: atypical.. I’m with you.. BUT I don’t despise the Democratic Party… what I despise is this TAKEOVER of the DNC and how the “current version” of it. I like the Democratic Party of JFK and RFK. I hate what they have made it into the past decade or so. By the way, one little thing here about Bill Clinton as long as we’re talking the DNC. The Monica Lewinsky thing didn’t bother me… but something really DID eat at me. I couldn’t handle him putting his hand on the Bible, and swearing an oath that he was telling the truth about her, when he wasn’t. THAT bothered me. I know that O will be doing the same thing when he puts HIS hand on a Bible and swears to uphold the constitution. Bill set the example by lying under oath in that case, unfortunately. Like I said, the deed itself (shrug)… but lying under oath is another matter. To me that’s serious stuff. If you don’t mind lying under oath with your hand on a Bible, then … I don’t know what to think anymore…..
13 BillieJo 12.01.08 at 6:20 pm: murphy 12.01.08 at 5:12 pm

will have a report from our FECK obama team soon.

obama is an absurdity. more kafka than fun, unfortunately.
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Woooooooooooooh Nellie…Kafka is my favorite author, and Mr. Obama you are not Franz Kafka!
14 NewOrleansPuma 12.01.08 at 6:25 pm: The most hopeful moment of the day or she forgot the “order: Janet wore fuschia….Hillary, was, in the perfunctory Black…And if you think this comment is hopeful, you know not what you read.

Murphy: For the record: It is a trap. The speech sounded like an injection of Kool-Aid. I just got home. These comments are simply as I said for the record here.
15 NewOrleansPuma 12.01.08 at 6:28 pm: BillieJoe: He is not The Roach in the Kafka story! ..let alone Kafka…at least the roach is a metaphor of a human trying to exist beyond the level of a cockroach.
16 sandipuma 12.01.08 at 6:30 pm: Fox news says Hillary is asking to have Chris Matthews off the air
17 sandipuma 12.01.08 at 6:31 pm: About time he be removed
18 DancesWithPumas 12.01.08 at 6:32 pm: Please, PLEASE, PLEASE….
When the “hat The Feck” team gets back into circulation on the log… please, express your gratitude for all the work they have accomplished!!! Imagine 5 team members auditing zero’s campaign contributions in all 50 states, AND writing complaint letters that include the contributions, number of contributors, and the totals of exceedances per individual, in JUST SEVEN DAY????

Please thank them when you see them:
Headclunker, TrishInCanada, MkinLA, PumaBear, and WMD!!!!!!!
19 DancesWithPumas 12.01.08 at 6:32 pm: correction: When the “What The Feck” team
20 KarenWI 12.01.08 at 6:33 pm: NOP- HRC’s speech… did it sound like she was totally brainwashed by him?… or did you detect anything like, well, reluctance or unease? I didn’t hear it… didn’t have the nerve to listen to it I guess. She looks, in the pictures, really washed out- almost looks like she’s sick or something… the red lipstick stands out like a red stop sign against her dead-fish-white color in the photos (which MAY have been altered, I realize that)…
21 goofsmom 12.01.08 at 6:35 pm: Atypical,

I never received an email that you wanted to be on the team. If you are still interested, we would love to have you. We are currently drafting our letter to send out.

Please mail to actioncenter@pumapac.org. Note Natural Born Citizen in the subject line of the mail and include your blog name in the body of the e-mail.

That way I can add you to our email contact list. This is how we communicate with each other…
22 taggles1 12.01.08 at 6:35 pm: Chris Matthews is a bottom feeding, lying, sh*thole!

He is a misogynistic scumbag, feeding off the ills of the sexist society he represents. Not an ounce of journalistic integrity resides in that man.

If he were to fall of the end of the earth tomorrow, we would all be better off.

The man is a freak, a blow hard, a danger to women.
23 KarenWI 12.01.08 at 6:35 pm: NOP, a few floors down a posted that Hillary’s SOS announcement was USING her… I think he is using her big-time…. and either she’s just given up, or else she’s going along with it to gain time or something….
24 sandipuma 12.01.08 at 6:36 pm: BBL have to leave the phone open. Darn it. But will be back later
25 Sunshinelvr 12.01.08 at 6:39 pm: Your northern neighbor 12.01.08 at 5:39 pm
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atypical 12.01.08 at 5:57 pm
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To your northern neighbor and a typical…both of you have the right idea. A montly newsletter to each signed-up Puma is a great idea (even if it just says nothing much except “hello and we want to see you post once in a while)–
and atypical..I know exactly the feeling you mention.sometime I, too, have felt ignored when I offered my help or made a comment (only to see my comment later repeated by another blogger who uses it as their own and recieves a great reaction for it!) sniff, sniff, (and to sign-up for some of these prowls(or actions) you must send an email to dances at the actioncenter) Anyway THIS “feeling” that we all have from time-to-time of being ignored would be helped by having a newsletter or an acknowledgement of some type to let us know that others realize we are still here..just not blogging as often! Sorry about the letter everyone.Just saying… we can treat each other better!
26 GOSUEF4HIL 12.01.08 at 6:39 pm: KarenWI- I did catch her acceptance speech later on and I don’t think her heart is in it the way it was during the primary- her real passion has been stifled- but she is doing what she has to/wants to/needs to.

It’s anybody’s guess what will happen-
27 KarenWI 12.01.08 at 6:40 pm: Was it just the photos I was looking at, or did everyone else think that Hillary looked “washed out”… extremely pale…?
28 NewOrleansPuma 12.01.08 at 6:41 pm: #4webfoot: Will you please share with us who this lSenator is.In liew of the billions that has and will continue to be given to financial entities in the name of a bailout and in lieu of no plan yet by any of them that anyone knows of to show as the Senator says in his or her second sentence…a viable plan…and in the face of the fact that all this money and more continues to be given with not one of the socalled bailout bills requirement for oversight boards, member of which, naming of them by Congress is obviously of little interest, and in lieu of the fact that all this money continues to be foisted with no money yet spent on direct help0 to Americans being foreclosed and in lieu of the fact that most of that money that will supposedly help these Americans is only directed to Fannie Mae and Freddie Mae lendings while millions, yes, millions of Americans in danger of foreclosure through other avenues are not addressed at all,. this Senator;s comments are to me sad indeed and myopic in tone and content. You did at least get an answer somewhat more specific than others who have posted here.
29 atypical 12.01.08 at 6:42 pm: http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/12/01/secretary-of-state-or-secretary-at-war/

So what was Obama’s motivation for selecting Hillary Clinton to be his Secretary of State? The political answer is clearly to keep her from being a potential opposition force to him in the Senate and for his second term re-election. Obama and Clinton had very different points of view during the campaign, with Clinton being very critical of Obama when it came to issues regarding the Middle East for instance and Iran. So it is reasonable to ask: Will Clinton be the primary foreign policy force or is Obama already planning to undercut her influence and authority?

One troubling clue came out late last week when it was revealed that Samantha Power had been retained and added to Obama’s State Department transition team. Power, one of Obama’s foreign policy advisors when the campaign began, had been supposedly fired by Obama when she publicly called Obama’s opponent Hillary Clinton “a monster.”

Now Power is charged with hiring people to work for the “monster” and will likely work for Hillary herself. Clearly this is not the choice of Hillary Clinton. So does it signal Obama’s intention to run foreign policy directly out of his office and in a direction that may not be consistent with Hillary Clinton’s positions?
30 NewOrleansPuma 12.01.08 at 6:44 pm: KarenW: The content of the speech was right out of the Obama bs book of 11 months. I really do not want to get into this now if I can help it…as I have stated above what I have concluded re the whole event and reality…for now.Luv ya, KarenW.
31 freddiebrown 12.01.08 at 6:47 pm: Today is the last day for our contribution towards our Goal of $3,000 towards Puma housekeeping and expenses . As an ongoing plan, Murphy has OK’d a special page dedicated to our 4 legged furry friends that many of us have. For a mere $20 (more if you can afford it Dances will graciously upload one photo per donation. If you don’t have a pet, I am sure kids or grand kids will be just as welcome. Or if you have a prized pet kumquat plant that you want to show off, I am sure it can be accomodated – if you’re not sure, just ask…

I know Goofsmom, MKfrom LA and Kat in yer Hat has got some cuties… So don’t let Fred hog the page – we want to see the other honorary Pumas too. Donate on the top right hand side of the page and email Dances with your 3″ x 3″ or smaller photo.
32 NewOrleansPuma 12.01.08 at 6:50 pm: 29atypical: Is an upside down flag a world wide signal of distress? No quarter is simply reiterating points made here by me and others for some time, as well as some other sites.
Good. I hope No Quarter keeps it up. I will focus on every move made or not made regarding this item as this whole debacle of Ojambo continues to move forward. There are many plays going on now and many various position players put in place. Obama is a Fraud and from that emanates Fraud. He can not think or function outside of the Alynsky premises and tactics. This is his identity. Nothing is as it appears. and moreso even than under mouthpiece George Bush.
33 TrishfromCanada 12.01.08 at 6:52 pm: Good Evening Everyone,

I want to say thanks to everyone who took the time to send out the letter to the FEC, thanks for being part of the team.

SouthernGAL68
mkp65
murphy
Sunshinelvr
bluelady
tec
webfoot
gojoyknocks
Patty
WBD
CasperCat
Headclunker
Mbet
BarbNoBo
PaDem
Stoney42
DragonFly
DancesWithPumas
34 freddiebrown 12.01.08 at 6:54 pm: Sunshinelvr – Atypical – Northern Neighbor

Thanks for your comments and suggestions.. I think it is a good idea to have a newsletter, even if as you say, to say Hi and to invite folks back to see what is going on.

We all have at one time or another felt silly for throwing out an idea just to get no response. Some days people just get distracted by so many things. I have thrown out many ideas that go no where so don’t get discouraged. Sometimes comments get buried and sometimes traffic is slow and not many eyeballs on that day.
35 mkp651 12.01.08 at 6:56 pm: freddiebrown 12.01.08 at 6:47 pm

I will be happy to donate $20.00 and send a picture of my grandsons. How and where do I sent it. The picture that is.
36 Luckyseven 12.01.08 at 6:58 pm: Donation made:
$15-
Confirmation number: 5YC413658E6713051.
37 Luckyseven 12.01.08 at 7:01 pm: Part of a speech given by Dr. Marvin Hier from the Simon Wiesenthal center. He hits the nail on the head.

The other day, I saw someone on television making the point that we must understand the grievances of the terrorists – that the world has neglected them. My friends, if there is anyone who has grievances in history – it should be the Jewish people and, particularly, the generation of survivors of the Holocaust – who witnessed 1/3 of world Jewry gassed and murdered. They too had grievances – but did you ever see children of survivors blowing up hospitals, hotels, schools, and restaurants?
Yet what was their reaction? They picked themselves up by the bootstraps, taught themselves how to smile and love again, educated their children to dignify the world and not to destroy it – to contribute to it and not to demean it.
Link to the entire speech.

http://www.wiesenthal.com/site/apps/nlnet/content2.aspx?c=lsKWLbPJLnF&b=4441467&ct=6421343
38 BigCatLover 12.01.08 at 7:02 pm: For those who want to watch the entire Hillary appointment and speech and form their own opinion like I want to do, C-Span is rerunning it tonight at 8 pm eastern time.
39 Headclunker 12.01.08 at 7:02 pm: FEC Team – Looking for WBD and PumaBear

Please check your email.

We are winding up the details and need a little more info.
40 NewOrleansPuma 12.01.08 at 7:02 pm: FEC TEAM AND ALL WHO TRISH LISTED….THANK YOU ….THANK YOU…FOR THE MAGNIFICENT WORK YOU HAVE DONE AND ARE DOING…FOR THIS COUNTRY…AND THIS PAC.
41 NewOrleansPuma 12.01.08 at 7:06 pm: #37LuckySeven: Understand the grievances of the terroists?
Let me less politic even than Dr. Hier. Death to the terroists and all of their ilk. They are a force of evil in method and tactic that should and will be wiped off the face of this earth. Long live Israel. Long live the United States of America. Long live the Jewish People, everywhere…says this Roman Catholic.
42 NewOrleansPuma 12.01.08 at 7:09 pm: Correction: Let me be even less politic than Dr. Hier
43 NewOrleansPuma 12.01.08 at 7:14 pm: LuckySeven: Please post more of these kinds of links here.
After India and the Chabat house terror and Baruk the Cruk moves forward in his various plays throughout the world, we will see much more propaganda of the kind Dr. Hier sites coming forward all over the place. Be Vigilant and help all of us stay abreast of these items. Thank you for this post and others you have shared regarding similar items.
44 freddiebrown 12.01.08 at 7:14 pm: MKP651 – Thank you for your kind donation.

When Dances get a moment, she will let us know how to email the photo’s. It is a new project but we should have the details soon. However, do donate today and post your donation with the subject as Photo’s for donations..
45 NewOrleansPuma 12.01.08 at 7:15 pm: Correction again, I am sorry…more propaganda of the kind Dr. Hier cites coming forward…
46 Sunshinelvr 12.01.08 at 7:20 pm: freddiebrown 12.01.08 at 6:54 pm
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ah yes! you are, of course, right. I was being a tad, um, mischeivious, maybe?, when I made my statement.I do realize that none of us means to ignore the others, sometimes we are just all busy chasing our own thoughts.
47 Sunshinelvr 12.01.08 at 7:23 pm: mean* –none of us MEAN to—
48 mkp651 12.01.08 at 7:23 pm: Donation Details

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49 KarenWI 12.01.08 at 7:37 pm: World Net Daily now has headlines asking if HRC as SOC is constitutional (the salary thing)…
50 goofsmom 12.01.08 at 7:39 pm: Atypical,

You have mail…
51 NewOrleansPuma 12.01.08 at 7:40 pm: #37LuckySeven: Here from Dr. Heir’s speech the link to which you posted…a magnificent speech ….is to me the essence of the Truth: Dr. Heir says..”The world should be very clear–achieving martyrdom by killing innocent civilans is an abominagtion—-it is a concept that desecrates religion denigrates humankind, and defames G-d himself….”

And the people said..Amen. Amen. (He is of course also, for the record of History and my conclusions about it, correct to include The acts of the Inquistion in his Speech in his list of similar perpetrators. The truth is the Truth no matter about whom one speaks it!),
52 KarenWI 12.01.08 at 7:50 pm: (clap clap) a round of applause for the FEC team for their tremendous efforts!!! (clap clap)
53 DancesWithPumas 12.01.08 at 7:51 pm: atypical
goofsmom

I forwarded atypical’s email earlier.
I can’t be as on top of things when I am at work during the day.
54 MKfromLA 12.01.08 at 7:52 pm: Headclunker – you have mail
55 freddiebrown 12.01.08 at 7:53 pm: Publicity for Donations : -

To have your photo’s in the bragging page of this blog, please see details below:
1) Format : jpg
2) To: actioncenter@pumapac.org
3) Size: From 3×3 inches to 5×5 inches
4) Subject: pets, kids photos. Misc photos on approval.
5) Duration: ongoing – no deadline
6) Donation: $20 per photo or more if you wish
7) Purpose of donation: Puma blog expenses
Direction: Post donation on the blog and email Dances
actioncenter@pumapac.org with your photo.

Please don’t be shy. It is for a good cause.
56 DancesWithPumas 12.01.08 at 7:57 pm: freddiebrown 12.01.08 at 7:14 pm
MKP651 – Thank you for your kind donation.
When Dances get a moment, she will let us know how to email the photo’s. It is a new project but we should have the details soon. However, do donate today and post your donation with the subject as Photo’s for donations.
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Thanks, Freddie!!
You can send your photo to actioncenter@pumapac.org
Put “Freddie’s Foto Project” in the subject line, and add some descriptive text… i.e. “This is my Ficus. Her name is Lily. I received her as seedling and she is now 20 feet tall. I had to move her out of my diningroom and into teh yard when her potential ultimate size became apparent.” etc.
Send your photo as jpeg (jpg). A workable size is between 3 and 5 inches.
If you photo is large, and you can’t resize it, I will do it for you.
Thanks!
57 DancesWithPumas 12.01.08 at 7:58 pm: Freddie,
oops… we cross posted. I like your post best and will use it in the future, if you do not mind.
58 taggles1 12.01.08 at 8:01 pm: Hi all, don’t forget about betty jean tonight on blog talk radio

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/freemenow

starting right now.
59 freddiebrown 12.01.08 at 8:01 pm: Hi Dances – your post # 57 – please do use or edit as you think necessary.

Thanks for all your hard work !
60 MKfromLA 12.01.08 at 8:02 pm: Tempting!!!!!

5 critters, all beloved… I want pictures of my furry friends in the PUMA hall
Of fame.

5*20

A bargain at twice the price, and a. 2fer for the PAC
61 gordana 12.01.08 at 8:03 pm: Good Evening, Everyone -

Since we were slow moving here, I decided to check my mail…this is what was posted on AOL’s Political Machine. I read the ad in the Chicago Trib – unfortunately, not legible enough to be copied here….very exacting and precise. No wonder THAT ONE needed to make his National Security Appointments announcement today….he knew this was being published today and Wednesday. We shall see if this has any effect..I hope so. I was shocked when I first spotted it:

“Obama Birth Certificate Rears Its Head – Again
By Liza Porteus Viana
Dec 1st 2008 2:44PM
Filed Under:eBarack Obama, 2008 President, Obama Administration

The election may be over, but not the controversy.

Just when you thought the flap over the genuineness of Barack Obama’s birth certificate was all said and done, in comes the We The People Foundation.

The group purchases a full-page ad in The Chicago Tribune – the newspaper of the president-elect’s hometown – today and Wednesday, called “Open Letter to Mr. Obama.” It’s described by the foundation as a “formal Petition for a Redress (Remedy) for the alleged violation of the ‘natural born citizen’ clause of the Constitution of the United States of America.”

Click here to view the ad.

“Mr. Obama is respectfully requested to direct the Hawaiian officials to provide access to his original birth certificate on December 5-7 by our team of forensic scientists, and to provide additional documentary evidence establishing his citizenship status prior to our Washington, D.C. press conference on December 8,” the foundation says. PolitiFact has said it has no reason to doubt the authenticity of the document.

Among other complaints, the foundation charges:

-that the Obama campaign posted on the Internet an “unsigned, forged and thoroughly discredited, computer-generated birth form created in 2007″
-the Hawaii Dept of Health won’t confirm Obama’s assertion that you were born in Hawaii (the director of Hawaii’s Department of Health on Oct. 31 personally verified that the health department holds Obama’s original birth certificate.)
-there are legal affidavits stating Obama was actually born in Kenya
-Obama’s grandmother is recorded on tape saying she attended your birth in Kenya.
-In 1965, Obama’s mother legally relinquished whatever Kenyan or U.S. citizenship she and her son had by marrying an Indonesian and becoming a naturalized Indonesian citizen.

We the People is in the process of choosing the forensic scientists who would travel to Hawaii to examine Obama’s original birth certificate, if Obama directs Hawaiian officials to provide it. The group estimates costs will be about $20,000 to successfully complete the task, and they need money. Any donors out there?

The birth certificate issue is like this annoying itch that just won’t go away. During the campaign, the Obama camp tried to stamp out the rumors by posting information – and the birth certificate – on its Fight the Smears site. But that apparently hasn’t stopped the rumor mill.

A Kentucky truck driver last week filed a demand that Obama prove he is a natural-born U.S. citizen. Daniel John Essek, 47, wants the former Illinois senator to provide a copy of his birth certificate to a federal judge in London for verification.

“I may very well be chasing windmills thinking they’re monsters,” Essek told the Lexington Herald-Leader.

A Pennsylvania judge threw out a pre-election court challenge to the citizenship issue, saying its arguments were frivolous. Other similar lawsuits have also been filed.

Right Side News on Sunday so graciously pointed out that “Hawaii Revised Statute 338-17.8 allows registration of birth in Hawaii for a child that was born outside of Hawaii to parents who, for a year preceding the childs birth, claimed Hawaii as their place of residence. The parents would be issued a Certification of Live Birth. This is not proof of where the child was born. It only proves that the parents claimed Hawaii as their main place of residence for the prior year.”

This Friday, the U.S. Supreme Court judges will conference. It’s expected the question of whether Obama is actually eligible to become the next president will come up. If four of the nine justices vote to hear the case, brought by Leo C. Donofrio against the New Jersey secretary of state, oral argument may be scheduled.

You know the Internet is going to be abuzz with activity surrounding Friday’s conference. We’ll try to sift through the sludge and bring you the facts.
62 RedStateGuy 12.01.08 at 8:05 pm: been gone a while, for a moment I thought Dick Cheney had taken over and moved this blog to an undisclosed location…
63 freddiebrown 12.01.08 at 8:06 pm: Donation Details

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64 DancesWithPumas 12.01.08 at 8:06 pm: MK
Your behind the scenes $200. contribution the other night covers you! Send ‘em!
65 freddiebrown 12.01.08 at 8:11 pm: MKfromLA – We wanna see your beloved friends !!
5 x $20 is a nice number. We can have a cutie contest as well. Winner pays into the kitty

Do I hear a donation coming down the pipe.. ?
66 DancesWithPumas 12.01.08 at 8:11 pm: Gordana,
I’m not sure if you are aware of this or not, but Murphy created a new Forum called “Documenting Obama”.

The BC/Natural Born Citizen Team, and others, post relevant info there.
The link for teh new forum is on the left hand sidebar, but I’ll repost it here for your convenience:
http://pumapac.org/forums/documenting-obama/
67 freddiebrown 12.01.08 at 8:13 pm: Oh… MK – you have a freebie for the photos. Nice…jump on it!
68 KarenWI 12.01.08 at 8:14 pm: gordana… ANOTHER one! Wow… this isn’t going to just die (thank goodness). In fact, is it my imagination, or is this growing and growing? I mean… this is the CHICAGO newspaper!!!
69 gypsy rebel 12.01.08 at 8:14 pm: gordana 12.01.08 at 8:03 pm

Hi, do you have the link to this? Thanks!
70 gordana 12.01.08 at 8:14 pm: Dances – Thank you for the reminder.

I’m not sure I like flitting back and forth!!! LOL

greta
71 goofsmom 12.01.08 at 8:16 pm: Dances,

No worries, ya gotta do regular work too…
72 KarenWI 12.01.08 at 8:17 pm: gypsy, the link to that is:
http://news.aol.com/political-machine/bloggers/liza-porteus-viana/
73 KarenWI 12.01.08 at 8:18 pm: Here’s a link to that ad:
http://www.wethepeoplefoundation.org/UPDATE/misc2008/ChicagoTribune-ObamaLtr-Nov-2008.pdf
74 GoPumaGo 12.01.08 at 8:18 pm: http://federalistblog.us/2008/11/natural-born_citizen_defined.html

an excellent discussion on Natural Born Citizen.

Has anyone heard yet on what happened at the SC on the Berg suit today.
75 gypsy rebel 12.01.08 at 8:18 pm: KarenWI 12.01.08 at 8:17 pm

Thanks so much!!
76 goofsmom 12.01.08 at 8:24 pm: GoPumaGo

I posted an answer to you on the forum

http://pumapac.org/forums/documenting-obama/
77 DancesWithPumas 12.01.08 at 8:28 pm: gordana 12.01.08 at 8:14 pm
Dances – Thank you for the reminder.
I’m not sure I like flitting back and forth!!! LOL
greta
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You’re welcome.
I understand, but that was the purpose of Murphy creating that forum. PLus it saves those interested from scouring through this main blog for info.
Thanks.
78 webfoot 12.01.08 at 8:32 pm: quote from my daughter (vocanogirl) in response to bots gushing about how inspirational and eloquent BO is: “I’ve read more inspiring comments on Starbucks coffee cups.”
79 goofsmom 12.01.08 at 8:34 pm: webfoot

LOLOL… your daughter is one smart cookie…
80 GoPumaGo 12.01.08 at 8:38 pm: I spent most of my time today talking to lawyers on my coming foreclosure and other people. There seem to be many places trying to help but in reality there is no help.

One individual working for the state and county said he knows of 300 foreclosures and NOT one has gotten any help. That the banks are keeping all the money and not a dime has come down to help people.

I will probably be homeless by Aug Sept. Incredible. homeless. I am still in denial. My daughter is in worse denial then me. she keeps thinking someone is going to help.

I will admit that I could take a big gamble and try to hold on to something. But it seems crazy to even try. I am tired of every dime going to the bank. Country Wide. A lawyer told me I am a classic case. That Country Wide defrauded me. But there is not much I can go except pay the mortgage.

There is a small chance of getting a lower mortgage but I do not see how I can hardly afford that. even if cut in half.

Of course when the ecomony comes back the rich will own my house and make a huge profit. I will be probably in a rental unit of some kind. Probably or hopefully a nice one room apt. All I need is my computer and internet hook up and I will be fine. I have not really watched TV in 10 years except for a few things like the outbreak of war in Iraq. I wanted to see what was happening. And a little of this election. But I got sick of MSM pretty fast. The good stuff is here at PUMA and the internet.

I see another lawyer tomorrow to discuss bankruptcy. Oh Joy. this is what I worked so hard for all my life and scrimpted and saved.

I have a mortgage payment due tomorrow. I can go 15 days late. then I am really late and the trouble starts about Dec 15. What should I do.

If someone wants to buy a house cheap let me know. When the market comes back this will be a winner.

I guess with foreclosure you have to be 3 months late on payments then they begin foreclosure which takes about 6 more months. That totals 9 months from today. A few people get lucky and get a year out of it.

Maybe once the Democrats get into office they will force the banks to use the money. But even with that I would need too much help.

I just hope I get a lot of spiritual growth out of this. I work on it each night as I go to sleep. Trying to detach from the world and turn more spiritual.
81 PUMAbear 12.01.08 at 10:17 pm: Headclunker – you have mail
82 murphy 12.01.08 at 10:20 pm: can you sell the house gopuma?
83 DancesWithPumas 12.01.08 at 10:21 pm: GoPumaGo
where do you live?
actioncenter@pumapac.org
84 NewOrleansPuma 12.01.08 at 10:22 pm: Gopuma: Where do you live?
85 DancesWithPumas 12.01.08 at 10:25 pm: Posting this for TrishInCanada (she’s having slight computer problems):
Donation Details
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Donation amount: $200.00 USD
Total: $200.00 USD
Purpose: Puma PAC
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86 freddiebrown 12.01.08 at 10:25 pm: Was the blog down for a while ?
87 NewOrleansPuma 12.01.08 at 10:26 pm: Do you literally know who holds your mortgage now?
88 KarenWI 12.01.08 at 10:26 pm: DWP, did you spill coke on the server AGAIN? LOL… it’s good to be back “home” again…
89 freddiebrown 12.01.08 at 10:27 pm: Murphy – the donation tally has been on $2,470.40 for a bit.. can you let us know what is short or has the goal been met ?
90 normapapuma 12.01.08 at 10:28 pm: GoPuma
Sounds hard. I own real estate and I’ve been through crazy things just to hang on to my property in tough times. I rent and try to make money on it that way. I use craigslist.com to advertise. If you can’t sell it maybe you can get renters, renters with option to buy, or boarders?
91 KarenWI 12.01.08 at 10:29 pm: Yup Freddie.. it was down. A couple of us were down in the cottage for awhile…
92 KarenWI 12.01.08 at 10:30 pm: Gopumago… I’m thinking of bankruptcy myself… but still hoping against hope God will do a miracle yet. No house, but I don’t know how it would affect my job or my car…
93 DancesWithPumas 12.01.08 at 10:30 pm: KarenWI 12.01.08 at 10:26 pm
DWP, did you spill coke on the server AGAIN? LOL… it’s good to be back “home” again…
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Murohy wants you believe tha I spilled the coke all over the restaurant in Denver and again on the puma pac server, when in reality, it was Murphy.
94 normapapuma 12.01.08 at 10:30 pm: Karen
Did you leave everything in order at the cottage? lol.

Repost from the cottage:
They’re talking on Greta about how successful Palin’s campaigning in GA was for Chambliss. Also, “This was about 2012″ and “people were coming to see her, it wasn’t about Chambliss.”
Sounds like she’s off and running.What do you think of THAT?
95 NewOrleansPuma 12.01.08 at 10:31 pm: GoPuma: Call your Congressmen and your Senators…tomorrow and tell them you want to know what they are going to do to help you….Call your local office for them and call their offices in DC….Tell them you want to know what they themselves have to do for you Now….Do it….Call them and ask them why no money is coming down tohelp people like you who are not I presume connected to Fannie Mae and Mac…Bug the living hell out of them…Confront them…That is their job or at least it used to be…
96 BrianH 12.01.08 at 10:35 pm: For your enjoyment: simultaneous moonrise and sunset in Lisbon:
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap081122.html

I downloaded and saved that image, you betcha!
97 NewOrleansPuma 12.01.08 at 10:35 pm: GoPuma: Call up the gd Office of the President elect and ask him what the hell he can do for you now…Call Chris Dodd and others who go a special deal from Countrywide…
98 KarenWI 12.01.08 at 10:37 pm: normapuma… I THINK I left the cottage in pretty good shape. Not like last time when we had the ghost stories around the campfire!
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Yup, I’m ready to vote for Palin. She’s like a breath of fresh air for some reason. She’s so down to earth… doesn’t seem to have the Washington stench about her, and knows “where we’re at”…
99 KarenWI 12.01.08 at 10:38 pm: Ah, DWP… you expect to believe it was innocent MURPHY who spilled? LOL
100 goofsmom 12.01.08 at 10:40 pm: BrianH

That is an unbelieveble picture… WOW…
101 NewOrleansPuma 12.01.08 at 10:40 pm: BrianH: Thanks Brian…that is a wondeful, beautiful image!
102 murphy 12.01.08 at 10:40 pm: what a beautiful picture BrianH — thanks for posting it.

freddie — will do,

brb.
103 gypsy rebel 12.01.08 at 10:40 pm: Well I writing several emails tomorrow. I want to know how these people can get away with a free Caribbean trip and then around and bail out Citigroup at the taxpayers’ expense!!

SHADY ISLAND ‘HOUSE’ PARTY
POLS’ TRIP TO CARIBBEAN SKIRTED RULES

http://www.nypost.com/seven/11302008/news/regionalnews/shady_island_house_party_141513.htm

excerpt: Six members of the Congressional Black Caucus attended the 13th annual Caribbean Multi-National Business Conference in sun-drenched St. Maarten, including embattled Harlem Rep. Charles Rangel and New Jersey Rep. Donald Payne.

Citigroup – which just last week received a massive bailout from the federal government – was one of the conference’s biggest sponsors, ponying up $100,000 to help finance the event, according to one of the lobbyists at the gathering.
104 KarenWI 12.01.08 at 10:41 pm: http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/coleman_recount_GOP/2008/12/01/156979.html
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Democrats May Flip Coleman Win If He Tops Tally

Monday, December 1, 2008 7:14 PM

By: David A. Patten Article Font Size

Senate Democrats could reject GOP Sen. Norm Coleman’s re-election if Minnesota officials declare him the winner over rival Al Franken, sources tell Newsmax.

“I think the real issue is what the Senate will do,” journalist, author, and commentator John Fund told Newsmax.

Echoing that is Washington University political scientist Steven Smith, who told Minnesota Public Radio, “Ultimately, the Senate has complete authority to determine who was elected.”

Coleman is clinging to a razor-thin lead of about 270 votes, with a Friday deadline looming for completion of a recount that state law requires because the results were so close.

The stakes are high: Depending on the results of the Chambliss-Martin runoff election Tuesday in Georgia, a Franken victory could give President-elect Barack Obama the 60-vote margin he would need to push his agenda through Congress.

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid raised the specter of Senate intervention on Franken’s behalf Nov. 26, when he strongly protested Minnesota State Canvassing Board rulings that he said “give cause for great concern.”

“As the process moves forward, Minnesota authorities must ensure that no voter is disenfranchised,” Reid warned. “A citizen’s right to have his or her vote counted is fundamental in our democracy.”

Reid’s statement drew a sharp reaction from the Coleman camp, in which Campaign Manager Cullen Sheehan called Reid’s remarks “stunning.”

“This says that Franken is fully prepared and armed to take this matter to the United States Senate and that the Senate will be receptive — even if Franken fails to succeed in winning the recount,” Sheehan said.

Fund offered Newsmax a similar interpretation: “I think Harry Reid is signaling that perhaps the Senate will play hardball in January” if Franken isn’t declared the winner.

The recount is considered unlikely to change the election’s outcome, and the thousands of challenges to individual ballots that both campaigns filed are not expected to be decisive.

It appears likely that Franken soon will have just two options to stave off defeat: a lawsuit to force Minnesota officials to count absentee ballots that had been rejected as invalid and a U.S. Senate investigation into whether votes in the election were counted properly.

“The bottom line here: Franken is playing Hail Mary passes,” said Fund, author of “Stealing Elections: How Voter Fraud Threatens Our Democracy.” “But he’s got to play them all. Otherwise, he will lose his best and perhaps only chance to become a U.S. senator.”

Franken attorney Marc Elias has suggested that the Franken campaign could rely on U.S. Senate intervention.

“Whether it is at the county level, before the state canvassing board, before the courts of Minnesota or before the United States Senate, we do not know,” Elias recently told reporters. “But we remain confident that, one way or another, all lawful votes will be counted in this election.”

This would not be the first time the Senate refused to validate the results of a cliffhanger election.

In 1974, a recount showed that Louis Wyman, a GOP congressman from New Hampshire, had defeated Democrat John Durkin, winning election to the U.S. Senate by just two votes.

Democratic senators, however, launched an investigation into whether all ballots had been counted properly. They tried on six occasions to award the seat to Durkin but couldn’t muster the votes.

The deadlock dragged on for seven months, until the two candidates finally agreed to a new election. Democrat Durkin won the runoff by nearly 30,000 votes.

Whether Democrats and the Obama administration would want to incite the intense partisan rancor that would follow such a contentious process is hard to say.

Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., is urging senators to stay out of the contest. “The recount process in Minnesota is being handled by Minnesotans, not D.C. politicians,” McConnell said Nov. 27. “And while neither side will agree with every twist and turn or every decision, I would hope that Washington partisans would refrain from injecting themselves into what is, by design, a nonpartisan process.”

Althoughy the temptation to weaken the GOP further by shutting Coleman out of the Senate would be strong, the political cost to Democrats could be high.

“Old hands in the Senate will tell newer members it wasn’t worth it,” Larry J. Sabato of the University of Virginia’s Center for Politics told Newsmax. “President Obama, I would suggest, will also conclude it’s not worth it. And internal battle will cause hard partisan feelings to develop quickly. Obama doesn’t want that.”

Sabato also believes such a political intervention would be unnecessary. Democrats usually could pick up two votes from GOP moderates to end Republican filibusters anyway, he said.

Having fewer than 100 legislators in the Senate for the first few months of his presidency could work to Obama’s advantage. Three-fifths of senators must vote to shut off debate, meaning that only 59 votes would be required if only 99 members were seated.

Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty could step in and make an interim Senate appointment, however, to ensure proper representation for his state.

The deadline for completion of the Friday. On Dec. 16, the canvassing board will begin ruling on the validity of individual ballots that have been challenged.

The two campaigns have challenged about 5,600 ballots, but thousands of those will be dropped or dismissed as frivolous. Election experts say it is very unlikely that they could change the election’s outcome.

“I think that’s just not going to happen,” Joe Mansky, elections manager for Minnesota’s Ramsey County, recently told the Minneapolis Star Tribune.

If the canvassing board determines that Coleman is the winner, Franken’s team probably would file a lawsuit to force the counting of absentee ballots already rejected as invalid. And the Senate would then represent Franken’s last defense.

Of course, there’s always a chance Democratic leaders will opt to avoid a showdown.

“Who knows, the Democrats may blink,” said Fund, who writes for the Wall Street Journal. “They may decide they don’t want to start this way.”
105 freddiebrown 12.01.08 at 10:42 pm: GoPuma – not to add to people barraging you for information hoping to help… I wonder if there is any way you can rent out rooms ? I don’t know where you are, but I was talking to my 22 year old employee. She rents a 2bed 1 bath house in a NOT great neighborhood – $1,100 . She is posting on Craigs list to rent a room for $500 a month and got 3 interested people. If you said all you need is your computer and a room, you can try to rent out 2 rooms to students or young people.
I “rent” to a friend for $400 downstairs with own entrance – only because we need him to keep an eye on Fred dog and the house when we travel.

Do look at other alternatives but don’t be in denial. Things will nab you when you are not prepared.
106 PUMAbear 12.01.08 at 10:43 pm: THANK YOU to all the great FEC COMPLAINER PUMA’s !!!
SouthernGAL68
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107 murphy 12.01.08 at 10:44 pm: oh and Billie Jo, btw, no offense to Kafka intended. I luv kafka, love love love him — but he aint exactly fun.

funny yes, fun no.
108 NewOrleansPuma 12.01.08 at 10:47 pm: Reid says a citizen’s right to have his vote counted is fundamental in our democracy???? Really you little piece of crap? Go check out what PumaPac and millions have been saying about that since the Democratic Primary, Since the DNC disenfranchisement of our votes, since fraud in the Caucuses….

Really you piece of hypocrital, corrupt crap…? You Reid…that is you and all the rest I am talking to…you fricking believer in gold plates buried in the desert that nobody has ever seen or found….you …you hypocrical fraud…You…I am talking to…and about…
109 admin 12.01.08 at 10:50 pm: FUNDRAISING UPDATE!

We are within $255 of our goal! With 68 donations we have reached $2,745!

Thank you to all of the generous Pumas who have contributed!
110 NewOrleansPuma 12.01.08 at 10:54 pm: Reid: You hypocritical fraud…a citizen’s right to have his or her vote counted is fundamental in our democracy.??..only if your comment fits the next fix you wish to conclude….You sound just like the Politburo…you weiney weasal of a wimp…
Pumas…do you hear this?
Murphy: Do you hear this?
111 KarenWI 12.01.08 at 10:55 pm: When Reid, or Obama, or Pelosi say “count every vote” they REALLY mean “let’s manufacture, create, and/or steal votes in order to get OUR GUY in- the one WE want in”… So what happened to what WE WANT- you know… “we, the people”???
112 MKfromLA 12.01.08 at 10:59 pm: DancesWithPumas 12.01.08 at 8:06 pm

MK
Your behind the scenes $200. contribution the other night covers you! Send ‘em!
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Thanks Dances !!!!!!!!! I will send ‘em tonight.
113 NewOrleansPuma 12.01.08 at 10:59 pm: We the people are the slaves of they the thieves at least that is the condesceding view of Reid, the hypocrite, and Pelosi, the Medusa. She can not keep count of the snakes that continue to slither from her porous eaten out brain and soul…and he is no better just a different style…
We have a corrupt two here of monumental proportions.
114 freddiebrown 12.01.08 at 11:01 pm: We are all very gratefull to the FEC COMPLAINER’s club for their outstanding work !!! The names have been listed so I won’t repeat it. Good Job and Thank YOU !
115 KarenWI 12.01.08 at 11:02 pm: Breaking News: Indian Official Says Bomb Blast on Train Kills 2, Wounds 30

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You know, I wonder if there were ARE another 5 terrorists on the loose there…
116 NewOrleansPuma 12.01.08 at 11:02 pm: The creep of cynicism from the people always allows corruption to prevail. Every assault upon the integrity of the people no matter how many other assaults precede the current one must be felt and heard and rejected by action no matter how often it has occured or cynicism will grow and this always portends the demise of a country.
117 normapapuma 12.01.08 at 11:06 pm: #104
Tonight Hannity was on the case of the Senate wanting to decide the Coleman/Franken election. Dem pundits wouldn’t even defend it.
Congratulations and thanks to the FEC team! So looking forward to the action report.
Well gotta get some sleep-working again tmo, dang it.
118 MKfromLA 12.01.08 at 11:07 pm: GoPUMAGo

I don’t know how old you are, but perhaps you’re old enough for a reverse mortgage? Here’s a link to the AARP site. I don’t think you need to have the house paid in full to take advantage of it.
http://www.aarp.org/money/revmort/
119 goofsmom 12.01.08 at 11:07 pm: NewOrleansPuma #116

That is a very profound and disturbing statement. How do you undo the cynicism?
120 KarenWI 12.01.08 at 11:16 pm: Did you see this about the one Indian terrorist that was captured alive? They captured on cellphone camera the people mobbing him before his capture. Why couldn’t they do this the other places? Not sure….
“A Sky News report from Mumbai has footage from a cellphone camera showing a furious crowd beating terrorist Azam Amir Kasav (aka Ajmal Qasab) before he was arrested and taken away.”
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/32057_Video-_Surveillance_Footage_of_Captured_Mumbai_Terrorist
121 TerryDo 12.01.08 at 11:18 pm: I thought I would take the opportunity to repost contributions from down stairs, the thread was changed so quickly.

93 TerryDo 12.01.08 at 2:55 pm
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122 LavaLamp 12.01.08 at 11:20 pm: Dick Morris is wrong.

I gave about $1200 to the Obama campaign, over the course of 16 months, in amounts ranging from $35 to $100 at a time.

But according to Morris – I am a “reprehensible” “large donor/fat cat/special interest” – because I gave over $1000. That is his definition, not mine.

I assure you I am no special interest or fat cat. I wish! But sadly, no.

Morris’ article is highly misleading. In fact, it’s an outright lie. Trying to say that a donor like me is an all-powerful “special interest”. Ridiculous.
123 admin 12.01.08 at 11:22 pm: dick morris is right.
you are an idiot.

karenWI — do you have a link to the terror story?
124 KarenWI 12.01.08 at 11:22 pm: LavaLamp… you gave $1200 to O? Did you vote for him too?
125 kat in your hat 12.01.08 at 11:23 pm: LavaLamp:

You are in the wrong forum.

Contact Dick Morris here: dickmorris@dickmorris.com

GoodBye.
126 goofsmom 12.01.08 at 11:23 pm: Hey LAVALUMP

WHY ARE YOU HERE… WE DON’T CARE WHAT YOU THINK!
127 kat in your hat 12.01.08 at 11:25 pm: Hey pumas,

I got home pretty late and I am finishing up acid terror action, but it will take a little while longer. I will send to actioncenter once I finish it tonight.
xo
128 KarenWI 12.01.08 at 11:25 pm: The cellphone video of the gunman being mobbed? Yeah, it’s o the bottom of that post. It’s
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/32057_Video-_Surveillance_Footage_of_Captured_Mumbai_Terrorist

…or the “breaking news about the bomb? No, it was “breaking news” on top of, I think, Fox.. but it’s not there now.. hmm….
129 TerryDo 12.01.08 at 11:26 pm: My goodness LavaLamp I really think you should start donating to PumaPac so you can watch us totally destroy your precious.
130 TXRepGirl 12.01.08 at 11:26 pm: Just a thought, but would it be prudent to do a prowl to the various honest media (I’m thinking Hannity and Greta maybe) about what the FECK team uncovered? My sense is that if the government can pretend they never saw it and no one knows and gets upset, nothing is done. The BC issue has been going for how long now, and there are only now glimmers of it breaking through–even though it’s at the SCOTUS in FOUR separate cases.

We don’t just need to tell the FEC, we need to get this info out to the world!

Oh, and if we do decide to package it in some way for others to be able to see, I’ll certainly post it on a few of my Rep sites. Nothing like getting the word out.
131 KarenWI 12.01.08 at 11:27 pm: Ok, I found it… it’s buried in there, but now they’re saying it isn’t related to the terrorists of a couple days ago:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,460045,00.html
132 gypsy rebel 12.01.08 at 11:27 pm: 12.01.08 at 11:20 pm Are you an Obama supporter?
133 kat in your hat 12.01.08 at 11:28 pm: TXRepGirl,

yes, definitely, the msm should be contacted. We’ll put it together and use Action Center media contact list.
134 KarenWI 12.01.08 at 11:29 pm: Note here… there are things out on the net that MAY be taken as insulting to Hillary- however, they are really showing the artist’s feeling of how O is “using” and controlling her now. Those are not “cutting” Hillary as some might think as much as showing what so many of really feel… that O is using her and demeaning her. IMHO
135 gypsy rebel 12.01.08 at 11:32 pm: Hopefully someone got rid of LavaLips
136 DancesWithPumas 12.01.08 at 11:32 pm: kat in your hat 12.01.08 at 11:28 pm
TXRepGirl,
yes, definitely, the msm should be contacted. We’ll put it together and use Action Center media contact list.
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There’s a HUGE Prowl being planned for teh What The Feck findings.
137 gypsy rebel 12.01.08 at 11:33 pm: DancesWithPumas 12.01.08 at 11:32 pm

Is that when I get to do something??
138 KarenWI 12.01.08 at 11:34 pm: What do we know about LavaLamp? Did he/she post before?
139 NewOrleansPuma 12.01.08 at 11:38 pm: #122No, pehaps not, LavaLamp, you are a result of drinking the Kool Aid of poison and I might add, given your name, of looking toolong into the Lava Lamp…..You are a fool..and you are in the wrong place. Turn on your lamp and keep looking at it. We live in the white hot light of Truth…you fool. You pathetic, fool
140 Sunshinelvr 12.01.08 at 11:39 pm: it seems to me that every time we start coming together to talk and discuss how much we are getting done and hope to accomplish (including fund raising) one of the bots jump in with a comment to distract us. And I am contributing to this just by making this comment–so My pledge is this…NO replies or commnets on ANY bot remark from now on! they can be ignored easily –and they will be ignored by me. Promise!
141 KarenWI 12.01.08 at 11:39 pm: I see there’s an upstairs… anybody want to be #1?
142 DancesWithPumas 12.01.08 at 11:40 pm: THANK YOU to all the great FEC COMPLAINER PUMAs!!!
SouthernGAL68
mkp65
murphy
Sunshinelvr
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Patty
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Headclunker
Mbet
BarbNoBo
PaDem
Stoney42
DragonFly
DancesWithPumas

and
THANK YOU to all the great “WHAT THE FECK” TEAM PUMAs:
HEADCLUNKER
TRISH IN CANADA
MKinLA
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143 goofsmom 12.01.08 at 11:40 pm: KarenWI

LavaLamp has been on before…
144 KarenWI 12.01.08 at 11:42 pm: goofsmom, did lavalamp post something obot-like before that you remember?
145 TXRepGirl 12.01.08 at 11:42 pm: YEA! I figured someone was already on it, but just to be on the safe side, I didn’t want to not mention it! And out of curiosity, what can/does the FEC do on contributions “over the limit” etc.? Is this a crime, some kind of I don’t even know what else it would be… Help me out here. Educate me!

And that brings me to another small point. I have learned more about our country since the start of this election than I probably even wanted to know. I’ve traveled back to the 60’s, researched Bobby Kennedy’s assassination, looked into how Hawaii issued birth certificates in 1961. I’ve learned that in 1966 you couldn’t be a dual citizen in Indonesia, that Columbia U has some WEIRD ideas being propagated, and that all selective service record numbers begin with the year they are issued. I’ve learned things about Kenya I never knew, found out that Dems aren’t all bad
146 goofsmom 12.01.08 at 11:43 pm: KarenWI

Yep… sure did. That’s why I jumped in… LavaLamp proved themselves already.
147 KarenWI 12.01.08 at 11:43 pm: I see there’s no stampede to be #1 upstairs, LOL…
148 goofsmom 12.01.08 at 11:45 pm: I missed the upstairs… jeepers…
149 HP Boston 12.01.08 at 11:46 pm: KarenWI 12.01.08 at 6:40 pm

Was it just the photos I was looking at, or did everyone else think that Hillary looked “washed out”… extremely pale…?

———————– She just looks pale b/c she is so close to that pile of shit!
150 KarenWI 12.01.08 at 11:47 pm: It wasn’t even “announced” yet goofsmom.. I just saw a new thread show up on the bottom of the page, LOL….and didn’t want to steal anyone else’s thunder by posting there yet. I see Alohapuma is #1 there now, LOL
151 mountainsong 12.01.08 at 11:48 pm: kat in your hat 12.01.08 at 11:25 pm You might be done already if ya hadn’t been talkin about my ass earlier today.
152 NewOrleansPuma 12.01.08 at 11:50 pm: #119goofsmom: I say how in the post. I posted that here now because Reid’s comment is outrageous. One can never let continual acts of the kind we have rejected from the beginning of our Pac ever become so familiar as to not recognize and name its outrageousness with as much pristine alertness as that first applied at the beginning.

Cynicism is counteracted by the continued stating and acting upon the Truth in the face of ongoing acts against it.
Cynicism is the veiled face of Mediocrity. So..one counters it always by always moving to excellence and the highest excellene is the pursuit and stating of The Truth…

I posted the Reid comments and these cynicism comments to do that here right now and to simply point out one more example of the fight we will continue to have and to counteract now..just as what your group is doing…and others.
\It will get worse. We, the people, will be bombarded with more and varied examples of propaganda on numerous subjects and issues. We counteract cyncicism by being alert to its possibility here and any place else. It is the ultimate hidden downfall of all who seek to protect and put forward the Truth no matter the issue. Stamina, continued recommitment are the vehicles that defeat cyncicism and naming over and over again the propanganda as Reid promotes is the method of protection against it as well..in the people, for the people. and for The Truth.
I posted it as something to remember as we go forward…a kind of silent mantra to hold close so as not to miss how much propaganda will come forward and quickly.
153 DancesWithPumas 12.01.08 at 11:53 pm: gypsy rebel 12.01.08 at 11:33 pm
DancesWithPumas 12.01.08 at 11:32 pm
Is that when I get to do something??
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You didn’t sign up… I checked, but I’d like ot sign you up. Are you able to download a doc, change a date, add your name and address, notarize, sign, and priority mail a document?
154 Your northern neighbor 12.01.08 at 11:54 pm: The Obots realize that although they are standing in front of the goal line, they have not crossed it yet. They are afraid we can still do some last minute damages that will spoil their party.

Obots that would still spend this kind of time and energy to come over here now to disrupt us are probably those that are on Obama’s payroll.
155 mountainsong 12.01.08 at 11:55 pm: It’s taken me nearly 7 hours, today to repair Windows, and do updateds and virus and malware scans on my computer that crashed Saturday night.according to latest info from AVG anti-virus, 1 (if not more) out of every 1000 eb pages is ifected with malicious ‘drive-by’ downloads.
We need some kind of security on PUMA sites and to be extra careful when Obots like Zee, Lava Lamp, Nijma, Newfie and others come around. I’m not terribly fonnd of spending days like today or of the idea of buying a new computer just cuz a few assholes don’t have anything better to do with their lives than dream up new ways to screw up others’ computers. And Obot have some of the most flawed brains on earth. Consider their Messiahwannabe!
156 Zee 12.02.08 at 3:20 am: “We need some kind of security on PUMA sites and to be extra careful when Obots like Zee..”

mountainsong, I don’t know what your problem is…but maybe you yourself are a troll, or came after Murphy featured me as a LONE protester of Obama when he came to Boston.

But, as for your Windows problems..I only wish I had enough tech ability to affect my own computer let alone others! My son is part of the Mac cult and was after me for years to switch. So, altho I like PC’s better, I finally got a Mac because I did not want to figure out how to deal with the jerks you refer to who infect others’ computers.

Hackers don’t seem to bother with Macs. I bought a used one.

I don’t recognize all the names you slur, except for Nijma, whose posts I remember liking. I also saw someone comforting him/her, but missed where s/he were attacked.

Stop it. I hope Nijma and PUMAbear and other good posters here are not put off by the attacks of some.