Almost official.

Let’s all wish them a fruitful cooperation together.

He wouldn’t fake us out. Would he?

In honor of Senator Clinton who will be dealing with the 3:00am calls after all as Secretary of State–and who is qualified to do so–I am donating $40 to PUMA PAC. (I have to send the donation via USPS however, as my credit card information has been stolen and I am waiting for a new card.)
Congratulations, Senator Clinton! Keep us strong and bring us peace.

bqueen 11.30.08 at 12:10 pm

I agree, bqueen. I hope Bill takes her senate seat.

Someone needs to record CRACKLEr on Hairball tomorrow night? I am sure it will be a doozy!

For a full week we will hear about how the man who beat Hillary is gonna give her a job. Will it work, will she undermine him, what about her husband, is she gonna run for president again. Oh and how fuckin gracious Obama is. Spare me, please.

I am ambivalent about it, Hillary is a grown woman and makes her own choices.

But I can’t stand to see the media demean her along with Obama’s silence. So get ready to download some good youtubes. You know they CANNOT help themselves!

The poor neoprogs are concerned with Obama’s recent appointments so their going to keep pressuring him. Poor baby. He made his crib, now he has to wallow in it.

Here’s the link:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081130/ap_on_el_pr/obama_left_or_center_1;_ylt=AhrOqBEzXIEC_Jiz9NBkHjgGw_IE

Hillary will receive the 3 AM phone call, and she can do her job, but will Obama do his job?

From the “One Percent Doctrine”:
The book’s opening anecdote tells of an unnamed CIA briefer who flew to Bush’s Texas ranch during the scary summer of 2001, amid a flurry of reports of a pending al-Qaeda attack, to call the president’s attention personally to the now-famous Aug. 6, 2001, memo titled “Bin Ladin Determined to Strike in US.” Bush reportedly heard the briefer out and replied: “All right. You’ve covered your ass, now.”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/06/19/AR2006061901211.html

I’m sure Obama is scared sh*less for what he about to face when he assumes his presidential role. What with the facial tic blooming under his right eye due to stress and the US facing The Great Depression II. Some saying it will be worse than the The Great Depression of 1929. Obama realises he will be expected to wave a magic wand and pull a thriving economy out of his hat and nothing less.

That is IF there is anyone left living under a rock that hasn’t heard how dire these times are… I have a Primer for you to read for addressing serious issues like the signs and symptoms of denial of the coming “DEPRESSION of 2008″
Pumas Unleashed

Good afternoon PUMAs. I hope you all had a nice Thanksgiving. I haven’t posted for a few days. My daughter came home from college for Thanksgiving. It’s been a hectic but nice weekend.

I sure hope that this is not media hype/hoax about Hillary. My husband just said that he heard on the news that they think that it is media hype and that someone else is going to be named. Boy, is that going to cause a stir.
Isn’t it ironic that Bill releases the names of his donors when BO isn’t even audited. BO wants the names of Bill’s donors so HE can use them.

In reference to the post on Iceland, I had heard about Iceland being in an uproar over the economy. Rush reported on that about a week ago.

Well, I’m going to sign off. My daughter is leaving back to college. I’ll be back later.

TrishfromCanada
No, I’m originally from PEI, but have a beautiful Newfie dog.
Have been in the states for many years, in Texas now but planning on returning to Idaho in the spring

Hi Murphy & Mama,

Hope Mama is back and feeling well.

I am back from a 2 week vacation and my sister
will return today from Israel.

Hello Puma family. Have a great Sunday.

EX DemInVa
BO wants the names of Bill’s donors so HE can use them.

In reference to the post on Iceland, I had heard about Iceland being in an uproar over the economy. Rush reported on that about a week ago.
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Yup I think they just want the donors names…..

I would puke if I listened to Oreaally or Rust!
No cable news and talk radio is for men blabbing to men,my how they do rant can not stomach it!

TrishfromCanada
I miss the island so much, especially going a few miles in any direction and being at the ocean. Cavendish is wonderful but not the way I remember it as a child. It’s so commercial now but nothing stays the same so I just enjoy the less traveled parts when I get back home and keep the other parts in my memory.

BMW60
That is an absolutely beautiful poem- and CONGRATULATIONS!

#30
WHO voted for Obama???

Newfiepuma 11.30.08 at 1:24 pm

Every year I’d spend hours during the trip at Anne of Green Gables, I’d pretend I was Anne and go through her house with her eyes. The wonders of reading!

I wish we could have a mass march of dems to register as Independents! 6 million more indys and the 2 party crowd will shiiit themselves!

Good Afternoon, Everyone,

I think they just want the dope on Bill…they’ve been itching, and bitching for how long now. I also think that once they have used the info to ‘EXPOSE’ THE CLINTONS, as they will, it will not be possible for her to take the SOS job…he has no one else who will put up with his lack of transparency or BS.

I’ve been thinking this for a long, long time…it’s just my sixth sense. I really would love to see her keep her Senate seat…THAT ONE has never kept his word….he’s up to NO GOOD…and, I don’t trust him now…

If I’m being a pessimist, it’s cause I’ve been fooled ONCE TOO OFTEN…don’t want to say ’shame on me’ AGAIN!!!

jmho,

greta

Can’t vote for Obama and be a puma. That just makes ya a regular democrat falling in line.

Kat - “Can’t vote for Obama and be a puma.”

then what are we going to do when half of the country wakes up from their koolaid induced coma and says” Pumas , you were right - Otard is a fake and a liar !!! Please save our country ?!!!”

Are we just going to turn them away ?
Just wondering , cause I have run into a LOT of people experiencing buyers remorse …

It seems this is not the place for me to work for change in the DNC, good luck to you all.

Maybe newfie wasn’t informed and now they are begining to see the light …
Pumas originally supported Hillary - which newfie did , and some NEW pumas did not - they just did not support XO ..

TexasTigress 11.30.08 at 1:36 pm

I agree with you, are we going to turn people away because they drank the koolaid and now they’re realizing rum would have tasted better.

We should give the benifit of doubt

Newfiepuma,

May I ask how you feel about voting for Obama?

freddiebrown 11.30.08 at 1:40 pm

I initiated the conversation with Newfiepuma about the childhood places…

bbl when the lynch mob has had its say

#12 HP Boston -

Just read your post….mine’s #41, I think!..

We think a like, no??????

greta

Newfie said _
Newfiepuma 11.30.08 at 1:29 pm

Your Northern Neighbor,
I was so upset that Hillary was not to be our nominee and then got so pissed off when John named Sarah as his running mate that I didn’t know what I would do for awhile. My family tried to convince me that the back and forth with Obama and Hillary was politics as usual and when I saw her whole heartedly campaigning for him I tended to agree with them. I felt whoever became president would have an awful job to do and if he was not successful then we’d have four years to come up with a viable candidate, maybe Hillary again. I wasn’t sure McCain and Sarah could get the job done. So I caved in and tried to take some comfort in joining Hillary in her support for Obama

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So we just welcome all Republicans - whether they supported Hillary or not , BUT , If someone was not as informed as PUMAS were and they followed Hillary’s lead and supported Obama , forget it ?

Even if they don’t care for Obama and wish Hillary was running again ???
Is that what I am understanding here , Pumas ?

TT #51
I so struggle with people who think like this. I take this as a comment directed as an insult to the female gender where this is unfortunately too common when women are their own worst enemies and easily influenced by the MSM and others:

From NewFie #26 From previous thread:
“I was insulted that he picked just any woman and like so many other women, she didn’t work for me. I am pro choice, and she was too far “right” for me. It made McCain look like a panderer to me, willing to do anything to win.”

Willing to do anything to win? Who is NewFie speaking for anyway as it was the Pres ‘Select’ that was willing to do anything to win, not the McCain/Palin race.

TexasTigress:

NewfiePuma said she lurked for months. MONTHS. So, it’s not like she didn’t know who he was.

Always look to cause and effect.

Newfie: is brand new, ten second old puma. Makes a few comments, and the thread is hijacked and now revolving around her and people are snapping at one another.

Let’s not be fools, ok.

Why don’t we all go to all the Obot sites and ask them how they feel now about voting for Obama. Have a change of heart? Hurray - does that make us feel better ?

Don’t we have better ways to spend our energy ? Or is this just bizarre curiosity ?

So if we don’t act all warm and fuzzy with open arms, we are a lynch mob? Nice choice of words Trish of Canada! This is not about you so feel free to go put your arms around NewfiePuma. I don’t have a problem with you. I have a problem with someone coming out to say that they have been lurking for months and decided to vote for Obama and just now decide to come on board to blog and to let us know. What does that accomplish ?

I am sorry if I offended anyone with the choice of my name. I stated at the beginning that I am a democrat, supported Hillary and will again. I didn’t intend to hijack your thread, or get anyone sniping at each other. Pretend I was never here and go back to your work and I’ll go back to lurking. This is where I have come to get “true” information and although I did cave in and vote for Obama, like you I am worried about the future of our country.

It’s also possible Newfie is playing with us. Another statement where attempting to find a site that is working on fixing the DNC (that Newfie is claiming to be doing) may have been a focus a few months ago……There’s too much of a disconnect that would provide any indication of sincerity. Likely another bot.

NOP and I have compared notes on two of them and she has reported our suspicions about 2 of them to Murphy.

gordana 11.30.08 at 1:43 pm

#12 HP Boston -

Just read your post….mine’s #41, I think!..

We think a like, no??????

greta

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Sure enough…we are on the same wave length.
My PUMA heart beats with yours!

#1spinotter: Like hell…I will wish them “a frutiful cooperation together.” I wish them an ongoing battle between any and everything this No count Fraud Ojambo comes up with in his onging dragging of this country and every one of us to join him in his “world citizenship” submission to the new despot rulers of the world: The gloabalization 1% , who supported his fraudalent and illegal possession of the Presidency of this country. Go swim your otter spin somewhere else.

I am now off to see the Saints. BBL

freddiebrown 11.30.08 at 2:00 pm

Sometimes I wish women weren’t such bleeding hearts.

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Wow I am on this wave length. Americans as a whole are bleeding hearts for every little thing that goes wrong and needs OUR money thrown at it!
Women are suckers for good deeds and VOLUEERIN! I say let the men volunteer and the women will do the REAL(they do do all the the work) work which is ALL the work! The work with PAY and Prestige!

Freddie — me too. I wish women would learn to put their feelings in a suitcase more often and store it on a shelf in their closets. Think more often about thoughts and beliefs and actions and goals and MUCH less about feelings and relationships and feelings.
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Murphy - I agree. We have to have semblance of steel somewhere inside us. We are not frail fragile things, bending where the wind blows. We need to know that life if not all touchy, feely, warm and fuzzy - when you point that gun - make sure you are ready to shoot and not just look like you have a gun.

Mountainsong,

Sorry if you felt this was a negative image of WOMEN. I think it sas a lot that women stand up under the pressure of male dominance and have good lives.

But many women get the dose of dehumanizing misogyny in their own homes and it extends into all areas of their lives. I don’t happen to think either sex is superior but the female half has so much more of a battle to achieve a place in society.

PUMAbear 11.30.08 at 2:09 pm

Distract, divide, disillusion, cause doubt and despair. These are tactics that the infiltrators use. Bring ‘em down from inside. Do we really know who all of these people are?
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I agree PUMAbear.

As I said way back on an earlier thread, they say a cynic is one who’s rose-colored glasses have been ripped from her face, thus immediately clarifying the vision.

I am a cynic. Some folks see dead people. I see bots.

#84 freddiebrown 11.30.08 at 2:09 pm

And I agree whole-heartededly with Asian..It didnot and does not mean anything to those in power in the Democrat Party that “Pumas” did not support the Presidentila Pick — therefore, there was no worries that they (the democrats ) would carry the day. A divided house cannot stand.

He has won the prize now and the congress can make his every wish come true.

Asian4Hillary left for good

I miss her so much, a smart feisty woman with the power to inspire.
Just so you know I was never going to give any dem a vote in November..NOT ONE! I did not!

I think a lot of us here lost many dear friends over our view of the ohonewhothinksheisking and we are still somewhat raw over these freindships..so to have someone breeze in here and admit they voted for thatone!-just rubs the spot raw again!

About women… yesterday I had a quick online chat with a neice. She wanted to know if I am cooking dinner FOR Uncle… My response to her was, no.. I am cooking dinner FOR US !! If not for this blog, I would have answered yes. But now, I correct her. We are not in this life as mens cooks, dishwashers, laundry washers, housecleaners etc… we should let the younger women in our life know that.

I’m afraid SOS is a setup for Hillary to take the heat when Obama can’t make good with his campaign promises. I’ve always felt foriegn relations is where they differed the most.

I wish she would stay in the Senate and fight for America and not the Obamocratic Party. What a loss…

Newfiepuma,

On top of Murphy’s questions to you on her post #94, my main question to you is this:

What could we have done to change your mind for voting Obama?

“But gay men? Arent they still men?”

Yes! That’s the reason lesbians split off from the gay (= homosexual males) liberation movement and aligned with the Women’s Movement is the early 70s.

TexasTigress…
Then maybe the buyer’s remorse obies will start their own movement. I’m not about to forget the support of mistreatment of women from that camp. I won’t forget that they supported the undermining of the our election processes either. A vote for obama was a vote for fraud, rule breaking, cheating, sexism, misogyny. I don’t give a flying eff where they go. PUMA = NOBAMA and all that obama represented.

For my friends, the ladies of PUMA~~~

Imagine a Woman

Imagine a woman who believes it is right and good she is a woman.
A woman who honors her experience and tells her stories.
Who refuses to carry the sins of others within her body and life.

Imagine a woman who trusts and respects herself.
A woman who listens to her needs and desires.
Who meets them with tenderness and grace.

Imagine a woman who acknowledges the past’s influence on the present.
A woman who has walked through her past.
Who has healed into the present.

Imagine a woman who authors her own life.
A woman who exerts, initiates, and moves on her own behalf.
Who refuses to surrender except to her truest self and wisest voice.

Imagine a woman who names her own gods.
A woman who imagines the divine in her image and likeness.
Who designs a personal spirituality to inform her daily life.

Imagine a woman in love with her own body.
A woman who believes her body is enough, just as it is.
Who celebrates its rhythms and cycles as an exquisite resource.

Imagine a woman who honors the body of the Goddess in her changing body.
A woman who celebrates the accumulation of her years and her wisdom.
Who refuses to use her life-energy disguising the changes in her body and life.

Imagine a woman who values the women in her life.
A woman who sits in circles of women.
Who is reminded of the truth about herself when she forgets.

Imagine yourself as this woman.

MountainSong

Ditto - a great post

DancesWithPumas 11.30.08 at 2:38 pm

TexasTigress…
Then maybe the buyer’s remorse obies will start their own movement. I’m not about to forget the support of mistreatment of women from that camp. I won’t forget that they supported the undermining of the our election processes either. A vote for obama was a vote for fraud, rule breaking, cheating, sexism, misogyny. I don’t give a flying eff where they go. PUMA = NOBAMA and all that obama represented.
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If I thought all of them new the truth diuring the election then I would agree with you . If I didn’t think that the MSm deliberately mislead voters and omitted critical information , then I would agree with you . Some of them did willfully enocurage all that offends us - many of them did not .
If I thought they had all of the information prior to voting - then I would have to accept that Obama is the legit POTUS .
I do not feel that they were informed and made a shitty decision based on bogus information and possibly from an allegiance to Hillary who TOLD them to vote for Obama .
I believe that millions of hillary voters were not given all of the facts . It’s easy for us because we have been neck deep in information for so long , but what about the people who are just now waking up ?
What if , as they learn , they become mad as hell ?
Is that kind of the point of our efforts to educate and inform ?
So what then ? We just say “Ha ha , we told you so !!!
No - you can’t help us from here on out , we only allow democrats who knew all along or Republicans !” ?

Harry Reid had this to say about Minnesota race between Franken & Coleman..

-”As the process moves forward, Minnesota authorities must ensure that no voter is disenfranchised,” Reid said. “A citizen’s right to have his or her vote counted is fundamental in our democracy.”-

Isn’t it amazing how he can be concerned about this & they just screwed Florida & Michigan every which way they could! The nerve!
The whole story is at .. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/news/ap/politics/2008/Nov/26/board_keeps_faulty_ballots_from_minn__senate_count.html

cjv 11.30.08 at 1:57 pm

It’s also possible Newfie is playing with us. Another statement where attempting to find a site that is working on fixing the DNC (that Newfie is claiming to be doing) may have been a focus a few months ago……
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Our mission is to hold our elected officials accountable to the will of the voters, and to demand unbiased coverage from the media of all candidates, regardless of their gender.
This year the Democratic Party leadership led us astray.

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Disenfranchising tens of millions of Democrats in Florida and Michigan
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MkinLA
“When’s the last time we saw an army of men supporting any woman’s issue? ”
BINGO!
Last week I was listening to the Nothing New Agenda radio program, last time I ever will listen, too.

The program is only a few weeks old, and each time theyve been on the air, they make a big point of stating that their movement is open to everyone men and women.

Last week they seemed to spend an inordinate of time making the point that men were welcomeblahblahblahblah. (When women bend over backwards to welcome men, it almost sounds as if theyre apologizing to the men for women being inferior, that they understand that men are stepping down to participate with women. That women have to go out of tehir way tomake men feel comfy.)

They said they weren’t going to make the same mistakes NOW made… with no recognition of any of the major and far reaching accomplishments in their support of women’s causes in the past several decades since the inception NOW. ( = more trashing of women).

Then, the all inclusive Nothing New Agenda proceeded to trash Pelosi, “and others like her”. No analyisis of the reasons women behave in certain ways when they are part of a tiny minority surrounded by males in a male dominated male power structure.

I’t rather be in a movement of ten conscious women (STFU)than participate / support 10,000 in a group like Nothing New Agenda.

I swear, it was like 1970 all over again, and I don’t have the time to waste retracing those steps. I’ll get my feminist fix from Puma PAC’s STFU and from Sheri and Murphy’s No We Won’t blog radio show.

mountainsong #96

It seems to me that alot of the people who were here in June are no longer with us. I know some are busy working on special Actions, but still….
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You got that right…

If I thought they had all of the information prior to voting - then I would have to accept that Obama is the legit POTUS ……………..

TT, you have a good point. I tried to inform my Chiropractor but to no avail. I asked him if he was aware or familiar with Alinsky or the Weathermen or Acorn.

NO he said NO he said NO??? I asked him to go to our site gave him our pumapac.org…he never looked for the info.
Lazy stupid voters!!! You can lead a horse to water……..

MK
ack…. rambledon so long I forgot tehreason I was commenting.
I kept askingion the chatroom, while listening to all the “make men feel wlecomewantedcomfy” yammering, if men were/are so interested in women’s rights, why haven’t they started their own groups in support of the same??

Again, it’s women doing all the heavy lifting, while the men just saunter in and take a seat at the head of the table while they women swoon in adultation.

pffffffffffft

#118HPBoston: By the way, the day I do not notice and open my mouth against it as I hope others continue to do I will be dead.

Puma PAC can educate… that doesn’t mean we have to embrace the obies. And, I don’t recall ever embracing republicans here. They were here because they wanted their boy to win. Many were biting our tongues, others lurked, while waiting for Nov 5 and the departure of republicans.

Murphy

do we need to clarify the mission statement so new people will understand what our current focus is?

Newfiepuma 11.30.08 at 1:29 pm

Your Northern Neighbor,
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I wasn’t sure McCain and Sarah could get the job done. So I caved in and tried to take some comfort in joining Hillary in her support for Obama.//
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Because you WERE sure Omposter could get the job done?

Ye shall reap what ye sow.