Between the by-road and the main road
Alder trees at a wet and dripping distance
Stand off among the rushes.
There are the mud-flowers of dialect
And the immortelles of perfect pitch
And that moment when the bird sings very close
To the music of what happens.





Will You Help Puma PAC Be the Strongest Voice of the Voters in the USA?
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invalidresponse 11.22.08 at 10:39 pm
HIYA pumas!!!
kat in your hat 11.22.08 at 10:44 pm
ooh. poems. gimme.
catsden 11.22.08 at 10:46 pm
should I go back downstairs? I wanted to ask how long it takes water to heat up in a tankless water heater and how much water you have to run before you can take a warm shower?
TrishfromCanada 11.22.08 at 10:46 pm
ohhh my favourite poem ever is robert Frost’s, Two roads , just can’t remember the name right now and i’ll be damned if I’m about to google it!
NewOrleansPuma 11.22.08 at 10:46 pm
A beautiful poem…thank you..beneath the Muses.
DancesWithPumas 11.22.08 at 10:49 pm
Wonder who teh artist of that painting is.
; p
goofsmom 11.22.08 at 10:49 pm
Hi NewOrleansPuma
You wouldn’t have received an answer. I think the conclusions stated to you were based on generalized information and not direct knowledge…
DancesWithPumas 11.22.08 at 10:49 pm
I love Rumi
poet/mystic
TrishfromCanada 11.22.08 at 10:50 pm
DancesWithPumas 11.22.08 at 10:49 pm
I painted that this morning, scanne dit and sent it to Murphy, I’m good ain’t i?
Casper Cat 11.22.08 at 10:50 pm
Ok #1 Invalidresponse…show us the $$$$$$$$ After all, that is the tradition of being first….
great to see you are the first..
Nijma 11.22.08 at 10:50 pm
My favorite is still the one read at my husband’s funeral.
Robert Frost: The Road Not Taken
TWO roads diverged in a yellow wood,
And sorry I could not travel both
And be one traveler, long I stood
And looked down one as far as I could
To where it bent in the undergrowth;
Then took the other, as just as fair,
And having perhaps the better claim,
Because it was grassy and wanted wear;
Though as for that the passing there
Had worn them really about the same,
And both that morning equally lay
In leaves no step had trodden black.
Oh, I kept the first for another day!
Yet knowing how way leads on to way,
I doubted if I should ever come back.
I shall be telling this with a sigh
Somewhere ages and ages hence:
Two roads diverged in a wood, and I—
I took the one less traveled by,
And that has made all the difference.
NewOrleansPuma 11.22.08 at 10:52 pm
One of my favorite poems is Merlin Enthralled by Richard Wilbur…sad but beautiful
I also love all of John Donne and the Metaphysical Poets..Andrew Marvell, George Herbert et al..
Gerard Manley Hopkins…Emily Dickinson, also maligned ..her poetry and her person..for along time..Allen Tate, John Crowe Ransom, Donald Davidson( The so called Southern Fugitive or New Criticism poets…) Well so many more..
This Heaney poem is pure lyric..and lovely.
DancesWithPumas 11.22.08 at 10:52 pm
Trish
Very!!
I’m glad you spoke up.
WBD check your email from MK. It’s a miracle!
NewOrleansPuma 11.22.08 at 10:53 pm
Louise Bogan is another wonderful poet I think..so many.
TrishfromCanada 11.22.08 at 10:53 pm
Nijma 11.22.08 at 10:50 pm
That’s the one, thank you
Just to add, I do believe i’ve taken the road I was meant to take 95% of the time throughout my life. Not bragging, just happy with where I am in life, even when it’s not perfect, I do feel its where I belong
DancesWithPumas 11.22.08 at 10:54 pm
Oh, the money, that’s right!
Can’t wait to see our new total tomorrow morning.
lilibet 11.22.08 at 10:54 pm
TRISH:
That would be “The Road Not Taken”.
kat in your hat 11.22.08 at 10:55 pm
oh, “The Road Not Taken,” yes, a lovely classic.
Please gimme more.
NewOrleansPuma 11.22.08 at 10:55 pm
goofsmom: Yes, I know. It irks me when that kind of play is made..universal knowledge is usually the equivalent of very litte on a subject. I simply can not allow it without confrontation as it really does little but agitate.
Nijma 11.22.08 at 10:55 pm
It was a cross-post, Trish not an answer to your post. To be sure, a great poem. Not an accident we both thought of it at the same time.
lilibet 11.22.08 at 10:57 pm
I now see that Nimja, beat me to it, That is: “The Road Not Taken.”
murphy 11.22.08 at 10:58 pm
oops — sorry.
artist is Eustache Le Seur, french , 1617-1655, founder of the french academy of painting.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eustache_Le_Sueur
mzebest 11.22.08 at 11:00 pm
#3 catsden 11.22.08 at 10:46 pm
“should I go back downstairs? I wanted to ask how long it takes water to heat up in a tankless water heater and how much water you have to run before you can take a warm shower?”
~~~~~~~~
I will tell you from experience that I hardly notice a difference. And if anything… it seems that the tankless heats up the water and gets it to me faster than the tank water got to me.
But as I said downstairs… if you want instant gratification… you can purchase additional add on technology that allows you to set a time for the water to heat up and flow through your pipes so it’s more instant. For example… if you know you always wake up and are in a hot shower by 6 a.m. — then you can set a thermostat to start cycling hot water through the pipes at around that time to be there for you when you turn on the water. I personally didn’t opt for the extra expense. I would say it takes about an average of 15 to 30 seconds before I get my hot water to flow through to my upstairs shower. That’s not too long to wait at all.. so I turn on my shower and by the time I’m undressed and ready to step in… it’s already for me.
invalidresponse 11.22.08 at 11:00 pm
Casper Cat 11.22.08 at 10:50 pm
Ok #1 Invalidresponse…show us the $$$$$$$$ After all, that is the tradition of being first….
great to see you are the first..
__________________________________________________
not to worry, my donation has been sent……(snail mail)
I put my money where my mouth is….
(only wish my pocketbook was as bit as my mouth sometimes)
(no comments from the peanut galary please
mountainsong 11.22.08 at 11:02 pm
I shot an arrow into the air,
It fell to earth, I knew not where;
For, so swiftly it flew, the sight
Could not follow it in its flight.
I breathed a song into the air,
It fell to earth, I knew not where;
For who has sight so keen and strong,
That it can follow the flight of song?
Long, long afterward, in an oak
I found the arrow, still unbroke;
And the song, from beginning to end,
I found again in the heart of a friend.
Longfellow
DancesWithPumas 11.22.08 at 11:03 pm
artist is Eustache Le Seur, french , 1617-1655, founder of the french academy of painting.
————–
Thank you, Murphy!
Casper Cat 11.22.08 at 11:03 pm
“Never doubt that a small(Pumas) group of thoughtful, committed citizens CAN change the world; indeed,it’s the only thing that ever has” –Margret Mead.. Another one of my favorites is (not really a poem) ” Live as though you were going to die tomorrow–Learn as though you are going to live forever–Live in the Moment..–Ghandi
TrishfromCanada 11.22.08 at 11:04 pm
Murphy,
I just sent you the updated spreadsheet on where the FEC project is at
DancesWithPumas 11.22.08 at 11:05 pm
This World Which Is Made of Our Love for Emptiness
Praise to the emptiness that blanks out existence. Existence:
This place made from our love for that emptiness!
Yet somehow comes emptiness,
this existence goes.
Praise to that happening, over and over!
For years I pulled my own existence out of emptiness.
Then one swoop, one swing of the arm,
that work is over.
Free of who I was, free of presence, free of dangerous fear, hope,
free of mountainous wanting.
The here-and-now mountain is a tiny piece of a piece of straw
blown off into emptiness.
These words I’m saying so much begin to lose meaning:
Existence, emptiness, mountain, straw:
Words and what they try to say swept
out the window, down the slant of the roof.
rumi
Casper Cat 11.22.08 at 11:06 pm
Invalidresponse..I was just joking with you….bye the way I am no peanut…I am a almond!!!!!Ha!! just having a little fun for being first, hope you are not offended…It is just a game and nothing more..
invalidresponse 11.22.08 at 11:09 pm
not offended……and the peanut comment was not to you…it was to fend off any remarks that might be made about the size of my big mouth….
taggles1 11.22.08 at 11:10 pm
I’m not so much into poetry, but thought you might be interested in who my favorite artist is. Every year at Christmas or my b-day I get a new print.
You can see her work here(click on posters):
http://www.rosamond.com/rosamond.htm
She was swept away by a rogue wave while walking along a beach in California with her son. Her sister was able to save her son, but Christine Rosamond perished.
goofsmom 11.22.08 at 11:10 pm
MountainSong
Thank you, that is one of my favorites… classic…
Anna Belle 11.22.08 at 11:12 pm
Crazy serendipity. I posted an original poem over at my place tonight before I stopped by here.
Here’s a copy and paste (I hope original poetry is allowed too!):
Promise of Summer
for C. R.
It is not yet April and already she wears sandals,
her piggish toes exposed to the world.
In her red hoodie, blue jeans, and flip flops
this daughter of mine looks changed—
suddenly, girlishly metropolitan.
Her perma-scowl is balanced perfectly
between pony tails that only hint
at her waning innocence.
I thought to stop her before she left,
some instinct toward maternal wisdom
rising in my throat, but choked back
by my experience as a woman in the world,
free of relationships that define me;
feeling feminine power like
shrugging on a borrowed red dress,
a little flamboyant, but fun to try on.
I want her to shrug on the dress and dance,
her hands reaching for the sun as she grows long,
her fingers curling like tendril’d vines.
She is eleven and her breasts have risen
beneath her pink undershirts like
the bread my grandmother used to make,
magically and quickly reaching its full potential.
She would shame me for telling that
but I cannot help but marvel
at Rose blooming right before me,
her petals unfolding by the hour.
This morning she looked relaxed in her clothes,
sporting the stoic cynicism that makes the young look cool,
posturing apathy in the very slackness of her stance.
I am not allowed to touch or intervene.
I must trust what I have done and what she becomes.
She is locked tight, a fleshy seed with a tiny leaf,
the promise of summer growing inside it.
(My daughter’s middle name is Rose, btw)
kat in your hat 11.22.08 at 11:14 pm
ooh, taggles1, and then she had this…a bit of foreshadowing, or perhaps one to haunt her loved ones, I think.
http://www.rosamond.com/rosamond.htm
kat in your hat 11.22.08 at 11:15 pm
@ #35, oh, it didn’t work. It’s a painting called “sea wall.” click posters.
DancesWithPumas 11.22.08 at 11:15 pm
taggles1
I like her style…
especially like ’simone”, ‘blue ice’, and the “denim and silk” posters.
’sea wall’ gave me a chill knowing how she died.
Middle age female 11.22.08 at 11:16 pm
William Wordsworth. 1770–1850
Ode to Intimations of Immortality from Recollections of Early Childhood
THERE was a time when meadow, grove, and stream,
The earth, and every common sight,
To me did seem
Apparell’d in celestial light,
The glory and the freshness of a dream.
It is not now as it hath been of yore;—
Turn wheresoe’er I may,
By night or day,
The things which I have seen I now can see no more.
The rainbow comes and goes,
And lovely is the rose;
The moon doth with delight
Look round her when the heavens are bare;
Waters on a starry night
Are beautiful and fair;
The sunshine is a glorious birth;
But yet I know, where’er I go,
That there hath pass’d away a glory from the earth.
Now, while the birds thus sing a joyous song,
And while the young lambs bound
As to the tabor’s sound,
To me alone there came a thought of grief:
A timely utterance gave that thought relief,
And I again am strong:
The cataracts blow their trumpets from the steep;
No more shall grief of mine the season wrong;
I hear the echoes through the mountains throng,
The winds come to me from the fields of sleep,
And all the earth is gay;
Land and sea
Give themselves up to jollity,
And with the heart of May
Doth every beast keep holiday;—
Thou Child of Joy,
Shout round me, let me hear thy shouts, thou happy
Shepherd-boy!
Ye blessèd creatures, I have heard the call
Ye to each other make; I see
The heavens laugh with you in your jubilee;
My heart is at your festival,
My head hath its coronal,
The fulness of your bliss, I feel—I feel it all.
O evil day! if I were sullen
While Earth herself is adorning,
This sweet May-morning,
And the children are culling
On every side,
In a thousand valleys far and wide,
Fresh flowers; while the sun shines warm,
And the babe leaps up on his mother’s arm:—
I hear, I hear, with joy I hear!
—But there’s a tree, of many, one,
A single field which I have look’d upon,
Both of them speak of something that is gone:
The pansy at my feet
Doth the same tale repeat:
Whither is fled the visionary gleam?
Where is it now, the glory and the dream?
Our birth is but a sleep and a forgetting:
The Soul that rises with us, our life’s Star,
Hath had elsewhere its setting,
And cometh from afar:
Not in entire forgetfulness,
And not in utter nakedness,
But trailing clouds of glory do we come
From God, who is our home:
Heaven lies about us in our infancy!
Shades of the prison-house begin to close
Upon the growing Boy,
But he beholds the light, and whence it flows,
He sees it in his joy;
The Youth, who daily farther from the east
Must travel, still is Nature’s priest,
And by the vision splendid
Is on his way attended;
At length the Man perceives it die away,
And fade into the light of common day.
Earth fills her lap with pleasures of her own;
Yearnings she hath in her own natural kind,
And, even with something of a mother’s mind,
And no unworthy aim,
The homely nurse doth all she can
To make her foster-child, her Inmate Man,
Forget the glories he hath known,
And that imperial palace whence he came.
Behold the Child among his new-born blisses,
A six years’ darling of a pigmy size!
See, where ‘mid work of his own hand he lies,
Fretted by sallies of his mother’s kisses,
With light upon him from his father’s eyes!
See, at his feet, some little plan or chart,
Some fragment from his dream of human life,
Shaped by himself with newly-learnèd art;
A wedding or a festival,
A mourning or a funeral;
And this hath now his heart,
And unto this he frames his song:
Then will he fit his tongue
To dialogues of business, love, or strife;
But it will not be long
Ere this be thrown aside,
And with new joy and pride
The little actor cons another part;
Filling from time to time his ‘humorous stage’
With all the Persons, down to palsied Age,
That Life brings with her in her equipage;
As if his whole vocation
Were endless imitation.
Thou, whose exterior semblance doth belie
Thy soul’s immensity;
Thou best philosopher, who yet dost keep
Thy heritage, thou eye among the blind,
That, deaf and silent, read’st the eternal deep,
Haunted for ever by the eternal mind,—
Mighty prophet! Seer blest!
On whom those truths do rest,
Which we are toiling all our lives to find,
In darkness lost, the darkness of the grave;
Thou, over whom thy Immortality
Broods like the Day, a master o’er a slave,
A presence which is not to be put by;
To whom the grave
Is but a lonely bed without the sense or sight
Of day or the warm light,
A place of thought where we in waiting lie;
Thou little Child, yet glorious in the might
Of heaven-born freedom on thy being’s height,
Why with such earnest pains dost thou provoke
The years to bring the inevitable yoke,
Thus blindly with thy blessedness at strife?
Full soon thy soul shall have her earthly freight,
And custom lie upon thee with a weight,
Heavy as frost, and deep almost as life!
O joy! that in our embers
Is something that doth live,
That nature yet remembers
What was so fugitive!
The thought of our past years in me doth breed
Perpetual benediction: not indeed
For that which is most worthy to be blest—
Delight and liberty, the simple creed
Of childhood, whether busy or at rest,
With new-fledged hope still fluttering in his breast:—
Not for these I raise
The song of thanks and praise;
But for those obstinate questionings
Of sense and outward things,
Fallings from us, vanishings;
Blank misgivings of a Creature
Moving about in worlds not realized,
High instincts before which our mortal Nature
Did tremble like a guilty thing surprised:
But for those first affections,
Those shadowy recollections,
Which, be they what they may,
Are yet the fountain-light of all our day,
Are yet a master-light of all our seeing;
Uphold us, cherish, and have power to make
Our noisy years seem moments in the being
Of the eternal Silence: truths that wake,
To perish never:
Which neither listlessness, nor mad endeavour,
Nor Man nor Boy,
Nor all that is at enmity with joy,
Can utterly abolish or destroy!
Hence in a season of calm weather
Though inland far we be,
Our souls have sight of that immortal sea
Which brought us hither,
Can in a moment travel thither,
And see the children sport upon the shore,
And hear the mighty waters rolling evermore.
Then sing, ye birds, sing, sing a joyous song!
And let the young lambs bound
As to the tabor’s sound!
We in thought will join your throng,
Ye that pipe and ye that play,
Ye that through your hearts to-day
Feel the gladness of the May!
What though the radiance which was once so bright
Be now for ever taken from my sight,
Though nothing can bring back the hour
Of splendour in the grass, of glory in the flower;
We will grieve not, rather find
Strength in what remains behind;
In the primal sympathy
Which having been must ever be;
In the soothing thoughts that spring
Out of human suffering;
In the faith that looks through death,
In years that bring the philosophic mind.
And O ye Fountains, Meadows, Hills, and Groves,
Forebode not any severing of our loves!
Yet in my heart of hearts I feel your might;
I only have relinquish’d one delight
To live beneath your more habitual sway.
I love the brooks which down their channels fret,
Even more than when I tripp’d lightly as they;
The innocent brightness of a new-born Day
Is lovely yet;
The clouds that gather round the setting sun
Do take a sober colouring from an eye
That hath kept watch o’er man’s mortality;
Another race hath been, and other palms are won.
Thanks to the human heart by which we live,
Thanks to its tenderness, its joys, and fears,
To me the meanest flower that blows can give
Thoughts that do often lie too deep for tears.
wontbackdown 11.22.08 at 11:20 pm
I know this may be “trendy” to some, but I still love it so much, I put music to it.
THE INVITATION
It doesn’t interest me what you do for a living. I want to know what you ache for, and if you dare to dream of meeting your heart’s longing.
It doesn’t interest me how old you are. I want to know if you will risk looking like a fool for love, for your dream, for the adventure of being alive.
It doesn’t interest me what planets are squaring your moon. I want to know if you have touched the center of your own sorrow, if you have been opened by life’s betrayals or have become shriveled and closed from fear of further pain!I want to know if you can sit with pain, mine or your own, without moving to hide it or fade it, or fix it.
I want to know if you can be with joy, mine or your own, if you can dance with wildness and let the ecstasy fill you to the tips of your fingers and toes without cautioning us to be careful, to be realistic, to remember the limitations of being human.
It doesn’t interest me if the story you are telling me is true. I want to know if you can disappoint another to be true to yourself; if you can bear the accusation of betrayal and not betray your own soul; if you can be faithless and therefore trustworthy.
I want to know if you can see beauty even when it’s not pretty, every day,and if you can source your own life from its presence.
I want to know if you can live with failure, yours and mine, and still stand on the edge of the lake and shout to the silver of the full moon, “Yes!”
It doesn’t interest me to know where you live or how much money you have. I want to know if you can get up, after the night of grief and despair, weary and bruised to the bone, and do what needs to be done to feed the children.
It doesn’t interest me who you know or how you came to be here. I want to know if you will stand in the center of the fire with me and not shrink back.
It doesn’t interest me where or what or with whom you have studied. I want to know what sustains you, from the inside, when all else falls away.
I want to know if you can be alone with yourself and if you truly like the company you keep in the empty moments.
by
Oriah Mountain Dreamer
copyright © 1999 by Oriah Mountain Dreamer.
catsden 11.22.08 at 11:21 pm
mzebest. Thank you. I had just read something about the tankless when I noticed the post had moved upstairs while I was away.
Then I got lost looking at some poems of W<B<Yeats and couldn’t tear myself away or pick a favorite. Thanks, Murphy, for the question about poems.
DancesWithPumas 11.22.08 at 11:21 pm
Murphy,
How about posting one of your original poems?
catsden 11.22.08 at 11:22 pm
Darn I hate having a string of capitals with periods between them – sort of like P>U>M>A which I now write as PUMA cause I think everyone recognizes it and it’s easier.
taggles1 11.22.08 at 11:24 pm
I discovered her about 5 years ago, after my grandmother gave me a print of “Denim and Silk” that has been sitting out in her garage. I love her style.
Anna Belle 11.22.08 at 11:24 pm
Do you have it online wontbackdown? So we can listen?
taggles1 11.22.08 at 11:26 pm
good night everyone. fun spending the afternoon and evening with you!
goofsmom 11.22.08 at 11:27 pm
Good Night taggles1. Sweet puma dreams…
DancesWithPumas 11.22.08 at 11:28 pm
night, taggles
catsden 11.22.08 at 11:32 pm
Anna Belle: really liked your poem; that moment when you know to let your daughter go; so filled with love, joy, trust and fear all twined together.
btw, my daughter’s middle name is also Rose, but mine is a woman grown.
kat in your hat 11.22.08 at 11:34 pm
(Found some Margaret Atwood. She is not my fav or anything, but I like enough.)
Helen of Troy Does Countertop Dancing by Margaret Atwood
http://famouspoetsandpoems.com/poets/margaret_atwood/poems/350
The City Planners by Margaret Atwood
http://famouspoetsandpoems.com/poets/margaret_atwood/poems/359
Bored by Margaret Atwood
All those times I was bored
out of my mind. Holding the log
while he sawed it. Holding
the string while he measured, boards,
distances between things, or pounded
stakes into the ground for rows and rows
of lettuces and beets, which I then (bored)
weeded. Or sat in the back
of the car, or sat still in boats,
sat, sat, while at the prow, stern, wheel
he drove, steered, paddled. It
wasn’t even boredom, it was looking,
looking hard and up close at the small
details. Myopia. The worn gunwales,
the intricate twill of the seat
cover. The acid crumbs of loam, the granular
pink rock, its igneous veins, the sea-fans
of dry moss, the blackish and then the graying
bristles on the back of his neck.
Sometimes he would whistle, sometimes
I would. The boring rhythm of doing
things over and over, carrying
the wood, drying
the dishes. Such minutiae. It’s what
the animals spend most of their time at,
ferrying the sand, grain by grain, from their tunnels,
shuffling the leaves in their burrows. He pointed
such things out, and I would look
at the whorled texture of his square finger, earth under
the nail. Why do I remember it as sunnier
all the time then, although it more often
rained, and more birdsong?
I could hardly wait to get
the hell out of there to
anywhere else. Perhaps though
boredom is happier. It is for dogs or
groundhogs. Now I wouldn’t be bored.
Now I would know too much.
Now I would know.
NewOrleansPuma 11.22.08 at 11:35 pm
Merlin Enthralled
In a while they rose and went out aimlessly riding,
Leaving their drained cups on the table round.
Merlin, Merlin, their hearts cried, where are you
hiding?
In all the world was no unnatural sound.
Mystery watch them riding glade by glade;
They saw it darkle from under leafy brows;
But leaves were all its voice and squirrels made
An alien fracas in the ancient boughs.
Once by a lake-edge something made them stop.
Yet, what they found was the thumping of a frog,
Bugs skating on the shut water top.
Some hair like algae bleaching on a log.
Gawain thought for a moment that he heard
A whitethorn breathe Niniane.
That Siren’s daughter
Rose in a fort of dreams and spoke the word
Sleep, her voice like dark driving water;
And Merlin slept, who had imagined her
Of water sounds and the deep unsoundable swell
A creature to bewitch a sorcerer,
And lay there now within her towering spell
Slowly the shapes of searching men and horses
Escaped him as he dreamt on that high bed:
History died. He gathered in its forces;
The mist of time condensed in the still head.
Until his mind as clear as mountain
water,
Went raveling toward the deep transparent dream
Who bade him sleep. And then the Siren;s
daughter
Received him as the sea receives a stream.
Fate would be fated; dreams desire to sleep.
This the forsaken will not understand.
Arthur upon the road began to weep
And said to Gawen Remember when this hand
Once haled a sword from stone; now no less strong
It cannot dream of such a thing to do.
Their mail grew quieter as they clopped along.
The sky became a still and woven blue.
…Richard Wilbur, American Poet
wontbackdown 11.22.08 at 11:35 pm
Anna Belle 11.22.08 at 11:24 pm:
No. I have wanted to write Oriah, send it to her and ask her permission to share it with others.
I just haven’t done it – it does make a beautiful piece with guitar. I love playing it. It’s a little unnerving to send an an artist their prose in your own interpretation in music – It must be time – now that you mention it.
I’ll give it a try and see what she says.
DancesWithPumas 11.22.08 at 11:36 pm
Anna Belle
Good one! Thanks for sharing it.
NewOrleansPuma 11.22.08 at 11:37 pm
Correction : Mystery watched them
kat in your hat 11.22.08 at 11:38 pm
I want more. more to me. more poems. lol.
DancesWithPumas 11.22.08 at 11:39 pm
wontbackdown
Love that Oriah piece.
indy 11.22.08 at 11:39 pm
This article says how well Obama and Hillary are getting along. That they settled their differences soon after she conceded and he was impressed with how she campaigned for him. Sounds like there are no hard feelings between them, maybe logisticsmonster’s theory about them is right. Here’s the article:
http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/11/22/america/23hillary.php
DancesWithPumas 11.22.08 at 11:41 pm
Phenomenal Woman by Maya Angelou
Pretty women wonder where my secret lies.
I’m not cute or built to suit a fashion model’s size
But when I start to tell them,
They think I’m telling lies.
I say,
It’s in the reach of my arms
The span of my hips,
The stride of my step,
The curl of my lips.
I’m a woman
Phenomenally.
Phenomenal woman,
That’s me.
I walk into a room
Just as cool as you please,
And to a man,
The fellows stand or
Fall down on their knees.
Then they swarm around me,
A hive of honey bees.
I say,
It’s the fire in my eyes,
And the flash of my teeth,
The swing in my waist,
And the joy in my feet.
I’m a woman
Phenomenally.
Phenomenal woman,
That’s me.
Men themselves have wondered
What they see in me.
They try so much
But they can’t touch
My inner mystery.
When I try to show them
They say they still can’t see.
I say,
It’s in the arch of my back,
The sun of my smile,
The ride of my breasts,
The grace of my style.
I’m a woman
Phenomenally.
Phenomenal woman,
That’s me.
Now you understand
Just why my head’s not bowed.
I don’t shout or jump about
Or have to talk real loud.
When you see me passing
It ought to make you proud.
I say,
It’s in the click of my heels,
The bend of my hair,
the palm of my hand,
The need of my care,
‘Cause I’m a woman
Phenomenally.
Phenomenal woman,
That’s me.
wontbackdown 11.22.08 at 11:42 pm
Has anyone else visited Trish’ (fromCanada’s) site of poetry. I really like going there and reading her work. It has an aura there.
http://poetryprison.wordpress.com/
She has also written another piece on child abuse that is really, really good! She’s given me permission to put it on my site – and we have been working on a whole section that will open with her piece.
NewOrleansPuma 11.22.08 at 11:44 pm
#34AnnaBelle: That;s a poem, Anna Belle. ..and a very good one..I am very hard on “poems.”. This is a fine poem, Anna Belle. thank you.
DancesWithPumas 11.22.08 at 11:46 pm
oh!
and Pablo Neruda
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I seem to have dragged ee cummmings around with me too… since early adolescense… (or early adolnosense. That’s a lie. I think I had more sense, the special kind, when I was an adolescent.
wontbackdown 11.22.08 at 11:47 pm
DancesWithPumas 11.22.08 at 11:41 pm
Phenomenal Woman by Maya Angelou
(I saw her do that live at a speaking engagement – it was mesmerizing!
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I read the emails from MK on FEC! I can’t wait to try what MK suggested. I had tried one of the functions she is suggesting on my own when I started and didn’t do something right. I was so excited to see that she has mastered it. I hope she does a cheat sheet on it so I can understand it better.
Great news!
DancesWithPumas 11.22.08 at 11:48 pm
here’s a bag full of right parens. Just use them to fill in all the ones I forget to close. Thanks.
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kat in your hat 11.22.08 at 11:48 pm
#58 wontbackdown…omg, weird, I was there yesterday for first time.
Dances, that is so empowering. Did you know Maya Angelou was in the black panthers and a prostitute? I know that sounds harsh…I’m jus sayin’…she has quite a full background. Interesting I think.
DancesWithPumas 11.22.08 at 11:49 pm
61 wontbackdown
MK is doing a cheat sheet, I will upload to prowls section, where the other cheat sheets have been stored. You can also repsond to her and she’ll send teh document.
TrishfromCanada 11.22.08 at 11:49 pm
wontbackdown 11.22.08 at 11:47 pm
lol I just finished wisconsin in like 10 minutes using the pivot table MK wrote about. It’s like the best thing since peanut butter!
wontbackdown 11.22.08 at 11:51 pm
#34AnnaBelle: “That’s a poem”…
…I agree… In fact, you write beautifully… and soooo honestly… I love your posts on your site!
DancesWithPumas 11.22.08 at 11:52 pm
kat,
I drove to Denver (17 hours straight…cuckoo)…
and brought a bagful of books on disk to entertain myself. One was Maya’s autobiography. Very interesting.
Also listened to Bill Clinton’s on teh way back (19 hours, but stopped overnight… (after a $335+- speeding ticket on I70). I enjoyed the early years, but the later years sounded a bit too much like bs.
DancesWithPumas 11.22.08 at 11:53 pm
Trish will have at least 40 states completed by Sunday night!
Go Trish!!!
mzebest 11.22.08 at 11:54 pm
#56 indy 11.22.08 at 11:39 pm
“… maybe logisticsmonster’s theory about them is right.”
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Here’s a repost of the logisticmonster’s theory for those that missed it earlier:
http://logisticsmonster.com/2008/11/22/the-monsters-reaction-to-senator-clinton-as-secretary-of-state/
kat in your hat 11.22.08 at 11:54 pm
help me, what is the poem with the little baby and the oyster pearl and breast milk…?
lol..I know, whut.
oh…shoot. Anna Belle’s reminded me of it.
wontbackdown 11.22.08 at 11:56 pm
TrishfromCanada 11.22.08 at 11:49 pm:
You know… I knew there was a way to use that damned pivot table function… I just couldn’t get it on my own… should have gotten over myself and asked if someone knew the steps earlier! Darn it… it would have saved a lot of work!
Well… I would still have a looooooooong way to go without it and now it will shorten the process! Thank God!
DancesWithPumas 11.22.08 at 11:56 pm
wontbackdown
Went to a reading of I Know Why the Caged Bird Sings…
I was maybe 23 (?)… There were only 15 of us in this hall… it was very intimate ad she spent a lot of time with us afterwards.
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kat in your hat 11.22.08 at 11:57 pm
DancesWithPumas: I think it’s cool you listen to books while you drive. I’ve only owned one book on audio, and it was Lolita, but that’s because I loved Jeremy Irons’ voice. hah. ya weird.
Anna Belle 11.22.08 at 11:58 pm
catsden, you know what I’m talking about. It is filled with all of that.
Thanks, NOP, DwP, WBD, and others who commented on my poem. I’m glad you liked it. I LOVE Maya Angelou, btw, DwP. She had been a weird sort of thread woven throughout my life, and was my first role model outside of my own mother for how I wanted to mother. She taught me the importance of living for myself as much as I lived for my daughter, that sacrificing everything was uncalled for and unhealthy. I saw her on the night of the birth of my godchild, my daughter’s best friend, and it was insanely magical, to say the least. I don’t care if what I feel for her is worship–she deserves it.
DancesWithPumas 11.22.08 at 11:58 pm
kat in your hat
I get them from the library…
usually try to get the ones I know I won’t use my time to read… sorta like secondary books.
kat in your hat 11.22.08 at 11:58 pm
I actually own Bill Clinton’s book, is it “My Life”? I heard he wrote it all down on paper! Wrote that tome on paper, crazy.
wontbackdown 11.22.08 at 11:59 pm
DancesWithPumas:
OMG… I would have loooooved that! I think she is incredible!
jenniforhillary 11.22.08 at 11:59 pm
Not poetry per se, but funny and more like rap…
Someone might have gone today to a place where obots hang out and glued in the toilets pictures of Mr. Ofluckyou in the toilets (might have been the warholy one with his nose up that says LOSER). Then someone might have gone into the establishment and said loudly, come quickly someone has defaced the ladies bathroom. Then someone might have said loudly, I will never be able to go number two again without thinking of Mr. Blahblah. And then someone might have gone up to the counter and asked for a chai tea latte venti with soy milk and asked them if they were in the mood to share the wealth. And someone might have done this without even smiling and to the amazement of approximately 40 obots.
Then someone spent the rest of the day LAUGHING and having fun thinking of there faces when someone said LOUDLY I will never be able to poo without thinking of Sen. Obama….
Poetry. for you.
kat in your hat 11.23.08 at 12:00 am
DancesWithPumas, that’s cool. Was thinking of doing that to help me sleep. Trying rainforest sounds and rainstorms currently. lol.
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more poems to me.
Anna Belle 11.23.08 at 12:01 am
Have you read her follow up autobiographies, Dwp? I know there are at least three, maybe four by now. I’ve read four of them–consumed the other three in a fire after reading IKWTCBS when I was 21. Damn that lady put a mark on me. I love her for it. She’s a big inspiration for me.
NewOrleansPuma 11.23.08 at 12:02 am
MUrphy: Do you have any poems you have written?> I will make a deal. I will put one on here I wrote if you will…What the hell? poetry is communal after all.\
so here is mine about Shakespeare’s Juliet..and all young lovers.
Juliet
Juliet was wrong to call the moon inconstant.
She saw the sun fit metaphor for love.
The heat, the burn, the unrelenting she who, young enough,
knew nothing of relief, when, after burning sleep will come
And moon’s turn gracious pace reflects the sun.
wontbackdown 11.23.08 at 12:02 am
DancesWithPumas 11.22.08 at 11:53 pm
Trish will have at least 40 states completed by Sunday night!
Go Trish!!!
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REALLY??? Go Trish!!! Love those Cheat Sheets too!!!
DancesWithPumas 11.23.08 at 12:02 am
Oh, the Jeremy Irons version of Lolita (the movie) was sooooooo much better than the original (John Mills?).
I only get audio books for long drives, otherwise there are too many interruptions.
Luckily, I couldnt make my connection and ended up adding 5 more hours to an 8 hour trip… it worked out because I was listening to Night Caller, and it ended just as I pulled into teh driveway! Perfect.
Anna Belle 11.23.08 at 12:04 am
OH MY GOD, Kat in the Hat, Jeremy Irons reading Lolita? For reals? Well, good lord, that’s the gold standard for literature and for actors reading it! He’s perfect!
That book is creepy. I love it and I hate it. It is hands down the most compelling book I’ve ever read. I could not put it down, even though I was horrified as I kept reading. I want to read it again one day. It’s not something I could do twice in rapid succession.
jenniforhillary 11.23.08 at 12:06 am
Dances–I totally agree with your post regarding THAT ONE’s plan for Hillary…
Oh the tangled web we weave when first we conspire to deceive…
DancesWithPumas 11.23.08 at 12:08 am
Metaphors by Sylvia Plath
I’m a riddle in nine syllables,
An elephant, a ponderous house,
A melon strolling on two tendrils.
O red fruit, ivory, fine timbers!
This loaf’s big with its yeasty rising.
Money’s new-minted in this fat purse.
I’m a means, a stage, a cow in calf.
I’ve eaten a bag of green apples,
Boarded the train there’s no getting off.
BrianH 11.23.08 at 12:08 am
Repost:
BrianH 11.23.08 at 12:07 am
mzebest, NOP;
the point made in the Monster article about the leftist belief that a Self-Assembled Committee of Saints can and should adjust human circumstances and nature to bring about Earthly Paradise is crucial. Such a vision and commitment inherently excuses and requires long-term duplicity and scheming and subversion of the existing society. PEOPLE SHOULD BELIEVE WHAT ALINSKY SAYS ABOUT GOALS AND METHODS. It is a classical mistake and weakness to discount the clear, published statements of the more egotistical absolutists about their plans.
See: Hitler, Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Osama bin Laden, Alinsky and Obama.
Could it be that HRC is just more discrete about her Alinsky-program for The Rest Of Us?
wontbackdown 11.23.08 at 12:09 am
Good night everyone!
My headache has enjoyed about all of my project work it can stand!
DancesWithPumas 11.23.08 at 12:09 am
Sylvia Plath is always good for those times when you find yourself feeling too happy.
BillieJo 11.23.08 at 12:10 am
wontbackdown 11.22.08 at 7:36 pm
taggles1 11.22.08 at 7:09 pm:
I agree. I refuse to BLAME HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON for anything – especially not for her failed candidacy, a voting block so full of sexist hate that they have gotten themselves hung in Obama’s zipper and being forced into choosing between serving in Foreign Policy or our fricking own foreign legislature being controlled by our now foreign Demon-cratic Party.
The woman has a strength that not a single one of her political “colleagues” can even recognize – few of them would even be standing – much less get up from even one of the thousands of punches and low blows she has taken for years and years! imho
HAIL TO THE CHIEF! HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON – THE PEOPLES’ PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMEIRCA! That’s what I say.
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Gotta agree with you completely!!!
I joined this blog in June because I support Hillary Clinton. I don’t blog much because of all the negativity towards her on this blog by many. For everyone that talks so much about supporting women and all the crap they have been though, seems as though Hillary is expected to not get the same respect.
Love and miss some of you very much. Others……………gack!
DancesWithPumas 11.23.08 at 12:10 am
‘night, WBD.
Fantastic job today!!
BrianH 11.23.08 at 12:10 am
NOP;
About 2%Matthews: that’s even worse than Pelosi! Together they add up to double digits, though.
DancesWithPumas 11.23.08 at 12:12 am
NOP
Thank you for sharing your poem with us.
Would love to read more of them.
NewOrleansPuma 11.23.08 at 12:12 am
DanceswithPumas: My feelingsexactly about poor Sylvia Plath…
She was it seems entrhalled with darknes and darkness indeed did her in.
NewOrleansPuma 11.23.08 at 12:15 am
Dances: I do not have many..probably 30 or so…once every few years. Maybe I will send them to you when I gather them together. Poetry is indeed a mysterious craft and it is not easy…it is a labor so those poets who have given us many wonderful poems are very speciall hard working beings!
TexasTigress 11.23.08 at 12:16 am
Not necessarily a poem , but so incredibly poetic that it has stayed with me for 20+ years . From Thoreau’s walden Pond – Economy Chapter …
The Vedas say, “All intelligences awake with the morning.” Poetry and art, and the fairest and most memorable of the actions of men, date from such an hour. All poets and heroes, like Memnon, are the children of Aurora, and emit their music at sunrise. To him whose elastic and vigorous thought keeps pace with the sun, the day is a perpetual morning. It matters not what the clocks say or the attitudes and labors of men. Morning is when I am awake and there is a dawn in me. Moral reform is the effort to throw off sleep. Why is it that men give so poor an account of their day if they have not been slumbering? They are not such poor calculators. If they had not been overcome with drowsiness, they would have performed something. The millions are awake enough for physical labor; but only one in a million is awake enough for effective intellectual exertion, only one in a hundred millions to a poetic or divine life. To be awake is to be alive. I have never yet met a man who was quite awake. How could I have looked him in the face?
lilibet 11.23.08 at 12:16 am
BILLIEJO:
It’s so great to see you back again. I think if you stay around you will see that there is very little Hillary bashing anymore and those that do think it is proper to bash Hillary on a Hillary supporting blog are quickly called to order.
Lots of wonderful things are happening here. Anyone who wants to bash Hillary needs to find another blog where that kind of behavior is acceptable.
NewOrleansPuma 11.23.08 at 12:16 am
Dances: Oh, I forgot. You are welcome. Thank you for acknowledging it.
invalidresponse 11.23.08 at 12:16 am
Lets Hear It For Women The Women Oppressed
Lets hear it for women the women oppressed
In patriarchal societies their human rights are transgressed
By male religious zealots who hate woman kind
For to trample on women’s rights any excuse they will find.
Lets hear it for the women who never receive a fair go
Of equality in their lives they never may know
They are seen as inferior where males reign supreme
And this can do little for their self esteem.
Lets hear it for the women who must play second fiddle to men
Where to be born a female means one cannot win
Promotion in work or promotion in life
To an arrogant and an unfaithful man expected to be a good wife.
Lets hear it for women the women men do rule
And many males in positions of power can be cruel
The mothers of the children in life the hardest role
Equality they need and not male control.
Francis Duggan
tec1965 11.23.08 at 12:16 am
ok ill try my hand at a poem
my though it falls on yesterday ,when? why? it went away i called you once to say im here, despite my ever growing fear then hope and joy were lain to pass that day you said we never knew . how then could you live your life when weight falls down on mine at night, and again when morning comes to pass my world my days are falling past
the thoughts of mine they always fret a day will never happen yet and time for you may not be long
ill still be sorry when your gone
tec 1965
BrianH 11.23.08 at 12:17 am
SouthernGAL68 11.22.08 at 7:04 pm
Since, we are on the subject of homeless people, etc …
I received an interesting e-mail (article) from a buddy of mine. (I would show it to yall, but I erased it accidently)After reading it, I wondered what yall thought of this idea? Just curious …
The article was about … “Drug Screening for Welfare recipients.” The author said, that he had to be drug screened for most of his jobs throughout his life. He said that “since his tax dollars went to pay for welfare … why could welfare recip. NOT be drug tested (for illegal substances only)in order to receive a check per month??? The author believes that this would reduce some welfare dependency etc…//
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Oh, Lordy! The welfare here comes out the last Wednesday of the month, or the preceding one if the last day is Wed. The local term for that day here is “Mardi Gras”! The dealers have a huge surge of income, and many recipients are broke by the following morning.
kat in your hat 11.23.08 at 12:18 am
Dances,
yes Jeremy Irons’ version was way better and…wow.
Anna Belle,
I know, it’s so wrong but so beautifully written. And, did you notice, he Humbert Humbert seduces *you* as she seduces *him*…almost eerie.
BTW, I thought the oyster pearl/ breast milk poem might be Anne Sexton, so I just read like ten of her poems, dang, she was seriously raw. Also, tidbit, I think she called her daughter “stringbean”–term of endearment.
NewOrleansPuma 11.23.08 at 12:18 am
#92BrianH: Hope you saw my posts about the Chritmas Jock staps I will gather to send to Chrissy boy…will bring it up again closer to Christmas!!!!
lilibet 11.23.08 at 12:18 am
TEXAS:
I am reposting this from downstairs. I waited to see you were here before I posted it.
It is very difficult to read through tears and the reading of many of these posts just brings on another flow of tears.
I was very much alive at the time, living in Landover Hills, Maryland a short distance from the Capital and having a blast visiting the Senate whenever I was able.
I was in my homeroom looking at pictures of Kennedy that I had taken on November 11th in the Memorial Building before the laying of the wreath at the tomb of the unknown soldiers. I then went to teach my 1st English class of the afternoon, when over the loud speaker came the news that Kennedy had been shot. I was in my next Engglish class when it was announced that President Kennedy had died. The whole school began to pray the Rosary and because I was sobbing uncontrollably I left my classroom and walked up the hill a very short distance from school to my home.
For 3 whole days I cried and had the worst attack of hives of my life. I also had my first and only attack of asthma.
People even committed suicide. So for all of you who were not alive, you can now appreciate how much John F. Kennedy was revered and loved.
DancesWithPumas 11.23.08 at 12:20 am
;^*
what is this emoticon?
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Tec, thank you. Lovely.
NewOrleansPuma 11.23.08 at 12:24 am
TexasTigress: Glad you reminded me of ole Thoreau…I think his last two sentences or so about the millions awake for physical labor but so many less for intellectual endeavor et what follows…really explains the people who voted for Ojingo. Thoreau is one of those prose writers that I remember I just liked to read away even if I did not stop to understand. His is a lyrical prose style that even if I do not agree with his thoughts some time I like to take in. every now and then.
TexasTigress 11.23.08 at 12:24 am
DancesWithPumas 11.22.08 at 11:56 pm
wontbackdown
Went to a reading of I Know Why the Caged Bird Sings…
I was maybe 23 (?)… There were only 15 of us in this hall… it was very intimate ad she spent a lot of time with us afterwards.
:::: thrill::::
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My Copy of I know Why the Caged Bird Sings ….SIGNED !!!
Open the front cover and it says , ” For *******
Joy ,
Maya Angelou
tec1965 11.23.08 at 12:24 am
thanks dances
this is my first poem evaaa lol
ps is the fox still uner the bridge
Anna Belle 11.23.08 at 12:25 am
Oh, Anne Sexton and Sylvia Plath are another two of my favorites. They both have a reputation for buzzkill, but they where both actually pre-second-wave feminists. Plath’s The Applicant and Daddy act as bookends to a feminism suspended in her. Sexton, of course, wrote powerfully about abortion, sexual abuse, and the madness invoked by unnecessary limitations imposed by womanhood. Wonderful women, despite their sad ends.
I think that’s it for me tonight. I’m heading to bed. Goodnight all, and thanks for the conversation.
BillieJo 11.23.08 at 12:25 am
lilibet
It’s so great to see you back again.
Lots of wonderful things are happening here. Anyone who wants to bash Hillary needs to find another blog where that kind of behavior is acceptable.
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Good to see you again Lilibet too. I don’t believe Hillary deserves to be torn down, God knows her own party and many Democrats have been doing this from day one. She tries so hard to do what is best for her and for the majority and I would love for people on the pac to treat her with some sort of kindness. I am sure she wasn’t happy to return to the senate and find out winning the popular vote meant very little to the leaders there. Then get trashed in the media before the SoS deal is set………it never ends. She is a political punching bag. It makes me sick. I certainly would have given up if I were her, but she still gets up and keeps fighting. Fighting not just for her own career in politics, but for all of us.
DancesWithPumas 11.23.08 at 12:26 am
This was my mantra in my teens. It’s a passage from Hermann Hesse’s Steppenwolf:
“For I am the Steppenwolf, that beast astray, who finds neither joy, nor nourishment, nor comfort, in a world that is strange and incomprehensible to him.”
Just your average happy go lucky kid, was I.
kat in your hat 11.23.08 at 12:27 am
Thanks Dances, for Sylvia, did you read BellJar? What was she hiding in? A vent…a crevice in the wall? I haven’t read that since I was a teenager and I remember that bothered me…do I make sense?
NewOrleansPuma 11.23.08 at 12:27 am
JenniferforHillary: I do not like Rap except your rap here is magnifico!!!!!! I wish I could have been there for this poetic moment in the flesh!
kat in your hat 11.23.08 at 12:28 am
Anna Belle, goodnight to you, sweet dreams. xo
TexasTigress 11.23.08 at 12:28 am
NOP , I have often wondered if I would ever meet anyone who was truely ‘awake’ …. Priests , Cardinals , poets , authors etc.. never met one that quite fit the desciption .
I have always suspected that maybe the Dali Lama is ‘awake’.. I don’t know , but , again , how could I look him in the eye ?
DancesWithPumas 11.23.08 at 12:29 am
tec1965 11.23.08 at 12:24 am
thanks dances
this is my first poem evaaa lol
ps is the fox still uner the bridge
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oh, your first? Good job!
The fox? The fox remains under the bridge until
jhti jsjs pwwal
If you want to know what that means, just let me know…
but it’ll cost you a little somethin’.
mzebest 11.23.08 at 12:30 am
Has anyone seen these MTV Martial Law Warnings? I saw this on the Obambi.wordpress.com site with the title above the video of “coming soon to a home near you by Brzezinski, Soros and Barry Soetoro”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=reCpV1YHuYs
NewOrleansPuma 11.23.08 at 12:30 am
tech1965: I think your first poem eva a…is very good for a first poem evaaaaa….I hope you will continue to do them.
kat in your hat 11.23.08 at 12:31 am
tec1965 #100, aw tec, I like it.
DancesWithPumas 11.23.08 at 12:32 am
TT
My Copy of I know Why the Caged Bird Sings ….SIGNED !
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Nice.
mzebest 11.23.08 at 12:32 am
#101 BrianH
I like the idea. I think they should also drug test the President Elect. I don’t think he would pass. I’d be willing to bet he still used cocaine to get through the high paced energy needed during his campaigning.
tec1965 11.23.08 at 12:32 am
yup dances i def want to know
what doesit mean ?
DancesWithPumas 11.23.08 at 12:33 am
tec1965 11.23.08 at 12:32 am
yup dances i def want to know
what doesit mean ?
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what’s it worth to you?
catsden 11.23.08 at 12:33 am
I am signing off, but want to post this poem from W.B.Yeats.
The Lake Isle of Innisfree
I will arise and go now, and go to Innisfree,
And a small cabin build there, of clay and wattles made:
Nine bean-rows will I have there, a hive for the honeybee,
And live alone in the bee-loud glade.
And I shall have some peace there, for peace comes dropping slow,
Dropping from the veils of the morning to where the cricket sings;
There midnight’s all a glimmer, and noon a purple glow,
And evening full of the linnet’s wings.
I will arise and go now, for always night and day
I hear lake water lapping with low sounds by the shore;
While I stand on the roadway, or on the pavements grey,
I hear it in the deep heart’s core.
good night all, and maybe next time we do a poetry session I will, like others, post one of my own.
Nijma 11.23.08 at 12:35 am
Can’t decide whether Browning is trite–but did you ever try to write a sonnet?
How Do I Love Thee? (Sonnet 43)
by Elizabeth Barrett Browning
How do I love thee? Let me count the ways.
I love thee to the depth and breadth and height
My soul can reach, when feeling out of sight
For the ends of being and ideal grace.
I love thee to the level of every day’s
Most quiet need, by sun and candle-light.
I love thee freely, as men strive for right.
I love thee purely, as they turn from praise.
I love thee with the passion put to use
In my old griefs, and with my childhood’s faith.
I love thee with a love I seemed to lose
With my lost saints. I love thee with the breath,
Smiles, tears, of all my life; and, if God choose,
I shall but love thee better after death.
tec1965 11.23.08 at 12:35 am
hi kat
hi new orleans thanks guys
DancesWithPumas 11.23.08 at 12:35 am
“And live alone in the bee-loud glade.”
mmmmmm
TexasTigress 11.23.08 at 12:36 am
Lilibet – I LOVE your story . I felt really bad for bringing that up this morining . I think it opened a lot of old wounds . I think I was trying to find some sort of consistancy with , what I view as the collective loss of innocence of the Nation , and what my feelings are in regards to this years election . Everything I ever believed to be true – the media keeps us informed , people care about facts , the best person wins , cheaters never win , and my party would never betray the people – everything went up in smoke …
Anyway , thank you VERY MUCH for sharing .
NewOrleansPuma 11.23.08 at 12:37 am
TexasTigress: I think you are awake Texas Tigress. Very awake!
and by Thoreaus, standards as well as mine!
I have been fortunate to meet a number of awake people over my life…one was a little twinkly eyed Cistercian hermit who was utter joy and openness…But I am older than you so keep looking….and do look in the mirror but only briefly..for too long will put you not awake if you get my drift.
kat in your hat 11.23.08 at 12:39 am
catsden, thank you for Yeats. Yes, I wrote papers on him…gone forever from my memory. Combo papers on these: http://www.ap.krakow.pl/nkja/Anthology/yeats.html#Innisfree
I know of a bar dedicated to him and his poems are etched in the wood. Back when I could quote him readily I was quite the cool kat. Zap. All gone now. lol.
NewOrleansPuma 11.23.08 at 12:39 am
TexasTigress: Do not feel bad, feel glad. It was perfectly appropriate on this anniversary. And for the record, I was going to do the same …so there!
Heidi Li 11.23.08 at 12:42 am
Ah, poetry. One special one, and apropos I believe:
A Dream Deferred
by Langston Hughes
What happens to a dream deferred?
Does it dry up
like a raisin in the sun?
Or fester like a sore–
And then run?
Does it stink like rotten meat?
Or crust and sugar over–
like a syrupy sweet?
Maybe it just sags
like a heavy load.
Or does it explode?
NewOrleansPuma 11.23.08 at 12:42 am
catsden: This Yeats poem is one of my all time very favorites.
so glad you posted it..and hope you do in the future post some of your own.
TexasTigress 11.23.08 at 12:43 am
Heidi Li
-nice one .
NewOrleansPuma 11.23.08 at 12:44 am
kat in the hat: They may be gone now in your head..but you.. you are definitely still a very cool cat, indeed…
wontbackdown 11.23.08 at 12:44 am
BillieJo 11.23.08 at 12:10 am:
There are a lot of people on this blog that you won’t hear say anything but great respect for Hillary – we just hear the criticisms screaming.
NOP: Thank you for sharing that!
TEXAS: THANK YOU! I am so glad I read that before going to bed.
invalidresponse: Bravo!
tec1965: You too, lovely!
________________________________
Texas: Maya – What a prized possession!
“I have often wondered if I would ever meet anyone who was truely ‘awake”
I met someone that was as close as I can imagine – the “presence” is penetrating, the depth of awareness is like being heard for the first time in your whole life, and the ability to hear, to really HEAR, another… HEAR everything without “judging” it as a possession within their own realm of existence is such a mystery. I felt that they truly “experienced” me and that they allowed me to fully experience them… completely.
I cannot describe them at all, really… I bore myself trying.
Goodnight for real – Glad I read further, though.
Heidi Li 11.23.08 at 12:44 am
I just noticed that Texas Tigress seems to be feeling bad she brought up the anniversary of JFK’s death. I did not find it morbid – it helped me think. Made its way into this post: http://tdg.typepad.com/heidi_lis_potpourri/2008/11/send-a-woman-to-the-white-house.html,
possibly even inspired it!
DancesWithPumas 11.23.08 at 12:46 am
Wu Tsao
Bitter rain in my courtyard
In the decline of Autumn,
I only have vague poetic feelings
That I cannot bring together.
They diffuse into the dark clouds
And the red leaves.
After the yellow sunset
The cold moon rises
Out of the gloomy mist.
I will not let down the blinds
Of spotted bamboo from their silver hook.
Tonight my dreams will follow the wind,
Suffering the cold,
To the jasper tower of your beautiful flesh.
Heidi Li 11.23.08 at 12:46 am
Has Murphy come down from her roof?
NewOrleansPuma 11.23.08 at 12:46 am
TexasTigres: In addition, the analogy you draw in the post re the posting is also very appropriate and I think very accurate to the loss…in both situations…in many many ways.
kat in your hat 11.23.08 at 12:47 am
Ah yes, I know Langston Hughes, thank you Heidi Li.
My mind is currently going crazy trying to find another poem now…about how a man loved a woman, and he equated her body parts to the years he would wait but then he gets demanding and rough…
darn. I wrote a paper on how sexist it was, (cause I was pissed the whole class thought it was highly romantic)…darn!
Heidi Li 11.23.08 at 12:47 am
DancesWithPumas 11.23.08 at 12:46 am
I love that, and it is new to me.
NewOrleansPuma 11.23.08 at 12:48 am
#138Dances: What an exqisite littly lyric…have never even heard of this person…Thank you. ..
TexasTigress 11.23.08 at 12:49 am
Dances – beautiful
kat in your hat 11.23.08 at 12:49 am
NewOrleansPuma, #135, thank you xo
NewOrleansPuma 11.23.08 at 12:50 am
Kat in hat: You are welcome cool kat in hat!!
DancesWithPumas 11.23.08 at 12:50 am
Wu Tsao =
19th century, lesbian poet, china
kat in your hat 11.23.08 at 12:51 am
DancesWithPumas, ooh, I like that too. #138
wontbackdown 11.23.08 at 12:53 am
TO MURPHY… NEXT TIME ALL OF YOUR PUMA FRIENDS & FAMILY WILL JOIN YOU…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MopbhuZ2Bh0
DancesWithPumas 11.23.08 at 12:53 am
as Murphy might say:
Wu Tsao and Sappho went to different schools together
kat in your hat 11.23.08 at 12:53 am
DancesWithPumas..ooh, even better now. #147
NewOrleansPuma 11.23.08 at 12:54 am
Kat in Hat: I remember what it felt like when I read certain poems and poets and novels for the first time…how thrilling it was..that first moment of encounter…and Yeats especially so. I love Yeats.
NewOrleansPuma 11.23.08 at 12:55 am
Dances with Puma: Hilarious…Have you read Sappho;s lyrics>
They are quite exquisite..pure lyric…
kat in your hat 11.23.08 at 12:56 am
I feel distressed. I cannot remember poems I wrote A grade papers on. yikes. My father remembers every single street sign and sonnet and everything–e.v.e.r.y.t.h.i.n.g. Oh, no, maybe english lit will be like my spanish: poof.
NewOrleansPuma 11.23.08 at 12:58 am
KatinHat: How old is your daddy?
kat in your hat 11.23.08 at 12:59 am
NewOrleansPuma, yes, the first time to read it is the best. Then you go to school, and they make you chop it up and butcher it and overanalyze* instead of sway with it.
Yes…I have so many new things still. I absolutely love to learn more than anything.
DancesWithPumas 11.23.08 at 1:00 am
NewOrleansPuma 11.23.08 at 12:55 am
Dances with Puma: Hilarious…Have you read Sappho;s lyrics> They are quite exquisite..pure lyric…
————-
I have. lyrics and fragments… I have.
One of the possessions an old friend of mine, who died in 2004, left me in her will was the most beautiful oil portrait of Sappho, holding her lute, that I have ever seen.
NewOrleansPuma 11.23.08 at 1:01 am
Kat in hat: Do not forget..poetry is still here for you to read…so ..when you can, maybe you should or might pick up a few of your favorite poets and get back aquainted…These poems will be ther for you and you can meet them again whenever you want…
DancesWithPumas 11.23.08 at 1:01 am
“Then you go to school, and they make you chop it up and butcher it and overanalyze* instead of sway with it.”
yeep. I’m more of a swayer than I am a butcher.
kat in your hat 11.23.08 at 1:02 am
NewOrleansPuma: My dad is in his mid-50’s–well, he will be soon.
TexasTigress 11.23.08 at 1:03 am
James Kavanaugh (one of my all time favs. Frmr priest )
Will you be my friend?
There are so many reasons why you never should:
I’m sometimes sullen, often shy, acutely sensitive,
My fear erupts as anger, I find it hard to give,
I talk about myself when I’m afraid
And often spend a day without anything to say.
But I will make you laugh
And love you quite a bit
And hold you when you’re sad.
I cry a little almost every day
Because I’m more caring than the strangers ever know.
And if, at times, I show my tender side
(The soft and warmer part I hide)
I wonder,
Will you be my friend?
A friend
Who far beyond the feebleness of any vow or tie
Will touch the secret place where I am really I,
To know the pain of lips that plead and eyes that weep,
Who will not run away when you find me in the street
Alone and lying mangled by my quota of defeats
But will stop and stay – to tell me of another day
When I was beautiful.
Will you be my friend?
There are so many reasons why you never should:
Often I’m too serious, seldom predictably the same,
Sometimes cold and distant, probably I’ll always change.
I bluster and brag, seek attention like a child,
I brood and pout, my anger can be wild,
But I will make you laugh
And love you quite a bit
And be near when you’re afraid
I shake a little almost every day
Because I’m more frightened than the strangers ever know
And if at times I show my trembling side
(The anxious, fearful part I hide)
I wonder,
Will you be my friend?
A friend
Who, when I fear your closeness, feels me push away
And stubbornly will stay to share what’s left on such a day,
Who, when no one knows my name or calls me on the phone,
When there’s no concern for me – what I have or haven’t done –
And those I’ve helped and counted on have, oh, so deftly, run,
Who, when there’s nothing left but me, stripped of charm and subtlety,
Will nonetheless remain.
Will you be my friend?
For no reason that I know
Except I want you so.
NewOrleansPuma 11.23.08 at 1:03 am
Dances: And are they not truly beautiful stunningly beautiful lyrics…? Yes they are. I wish we had more of Sappho’s poetry. A friend of many years who teaches now where we both went to school..college..has written some things on the lyrics of Sappho.
kat in your hat 11.23.08 at 1:05 am
NewOrleansPuma #158, yes, I will do that. You know what it is, it’s like a movie you can’t remember, or an actor…and once I want to remember it, it bothers me if I can’t. lol
DancesWithPumas 11.23.08 at 1:06 am
NOP
it’s amazing the things time spares and squanders.
I wish as well.
NewOrleansPuma 11.23.08 at 1:06 am
Katin hat: He then is from a generation in which memory holds and held more sway than yours. The cultural differences are what I am referring to…Computers in my view have perfectly ruined the rule of memory in the human mind…truly have.
And that is not at all a good thing.
DancesWithPumas 11.23.08 at 1:08 am
“Computers in my view have perfectly ruined the rule of memory in the human mind…truly have.”
as has the written word, in any of its forms.
kat in your hat 11.23.08 at 1:09 am
TexasTigress: awww…what a sweet poem. “James Kavanaugh” beautiful Irish name. o how sweet.
NewOrleansPuma 11.23.08 at 1:09 am
@164Dances: yes, this is true…Dances. Very true.
NewOrleansPuma 11.23.08 at 1:11 am
Dances: Actually, I could write for days regarding the negative repercussions of computers on the thinking capacity of humans. I have watched and thought about this for many years. I think Ojingo voters are prime examples but it is late and I do not want to go there now. You get my drift.
kat in your hat 11.23.08 at 1:12 am
NewOrleansPuma:
You might be right. I speed read. I can watch two shows at once. I can have 10 different windows open at once, reading several articles at a time. It’s all for muck. As far as memory anyway. Maybe some kind of knowledge is getting beat in there…you know, I know a million things about nothing. lol.
invalidresponse 11.23.08 at 1:13 am
goodnight pumas
DancesWithPumas 11.23.08 at 1:13 am
I loved in Farenheit 451 (that doesnt look right) how each person memorized a book, and then as they grew older, the children were apprenticed to them… to memorize, understand, learn, become the book.
DancesWithPumas 11.23.08 at 1:14 am
NOP
Yes. Got your drift.
NewOrleansPuma 11.23.08 at 1:15 am
163Kat in Hat: Yes, I think I understand . The bothering is good, however…you care and that is the point…which means what you do not wish to lose you will not or you will seek to recover it..and that is very important…for timewishes to take from us that which we do not nurture and even that which we do…we are always in a condition of recovery in time…I think…it is its nature, time, I mean. And ours is to live in it, and through it even as I think and believe it is to live as well beyond it …inside and eventually literally, beyond death of course…the end point on the literal level of time.
DancesWithPumas 11.23.08 at 1:15 am
‘night, invalid
tec1965 11.23.08 at 1:16 am
good night pumas
DancesWithPumas 11.23.08 at 1:18 am
tec65
goodnight. keep writing.
NewOrleansPuma 11.23.08 at 1:20 am
goodnight invalid…good night tec1965..keep writing your poems!
kat in your hat 11.23.08 at 1:20 am
NewOrleansPuma, you are speaking poetry and it’s very pretty… timewishes? I feel what you are saying.
Gnight, tec1965 and invalid.
Now, ok, it’s late, someone give me a low down sexy poem. Really. Not gross, but ohhh.
hillstheone 11.23.08 at 1:26 am
hi kat! Are you still waiting for a poem??
I don’t know a sexy poem but I know some funny jokes.
NewOrleansPuma 11.23.08 at 1:26 am
Dances and Kat in the hat: My main mentor, the teacher who changed my life with her teaching in college…was the Chariman of the English Dept and she had a condition before I met her which took away her eyesight for several years..prior to my meeting her and after I met her she still had very bad vision…This woman, having loved literature and poetry for so long had memorized almost whole books..of course some had come from readings over time but she told later when we were peers not student teacher that she had also made a conscious effort to do so when she got the news of the effects of this thryroid condition and sight…The woman would quote whole pages from Dostoevyesky;s books and Shakespeare and poems…It was an amazing thing and she did not do it out of showiness but out of a habit she had developed before she went totally blind for a whil..She is 91 now with a mind still as bright and energized as ever I remember her. She was not raised on computers..but does have and does use them with pleasure as well. of course.
kat in your hat 11.23.08 at 1:26 am
(Hey, I didn’t say it.)
e.e. cummings
i like my body when it is with your
body. It is so quite a new thing.
Muscles better and nerves more.
i like your body. i like what it does,
i like its hows. i like to feel the spine
of your body and its bones, and the trembling
-firm-smooth ness and which i will
again and again and again
kiss, i like kissing this and that of you,
i like,, slowly stroking the, shocking fuzz
of your electric fur, and what-is-it comes
over parting flesh . . . . And eyes big Love-crumbs,
and possibly i like the thrill
of under me you quite so new
kat in your hat 11.23.08 at 1:26 am
hillstheone..lol..go for it.
NewOrleansPuma 11.23.08 at 1:27 am
#179: Well I am speaking my dear one…truly what I have experienced and know to be true..I am glad you understand.
NewOrleansPuma 11.23.08 at 1:28 am
Sorry Kat in hat..I neglected to put your name at 179, for that is for you.
hillstheone 11.23.08 at 1:28 am
Nice poem, Kat!
I had a date tonight, and very fortunately we did not discuss politics.
But I was just reading a post from yesterday & say GoPumaGo’s post, and I agree, I think it’s still possible Hillary will end up being sworn in as our Prez in January.
Have you been keeping up on the BC issue, if so will you fill me in?
NewOrleansPuma 11.23.08 at 1:28 am
Kat in Hat: I do not know any really sexy poems off hand…
maybe Dances does? Huh?
DancesWithPumas 11.23.08 at 1:29 am
like my body when it is with your
i like my body when it is with your
body. It is so quite new a thing.
Muscles better and nerves more.
i like your body. i like what it does,
i like its hows. i like to feel the spine
of your body and its bones, and the trembling
-firm-smooth ness and which i will
again and again and again
kiss, i like kissing this and that of you,
i like, slowly stroking the, shocking fuzz
of your electric fur, and what-is-it comes
over parting flesh … And eyes big love-crumbs,
and possibly i like the thrill
of under me you so quite new
ee cummings
hillstheone 11.23.08 at 1:29 am
kat, what’s better than having roses on your piano?
DancesWithPumas 11.23.08 at 1:29 am
wow…kat!!
lol
NewOrleansPuma 11.23.08 at 1:30 am
Katin hat: Well that eecommunigs one ought to do it..Yes? So there you are…you got your poem…
hillstheone 11.23.08 at 1:30 am
Hi NewOrleans, what’s new w/you?
DancesWithPumas 11.23.08 at 1:31 am
Wu Tsao again
For the Courtesan Ch’ing Lin
On your slender body
Your jade and coral girdle ornaments chime
Like those of a celestial companion
Come from the Green Jade City of Heaven.
One smile from you when we meet,
And I become speechless and forget every word.
For too long you have gathered flowers,
And leaned against the bamboos,
Your green sleeves growing cold,
In your deserted valley:
I can visualize you all alone,
A girl harboring her cryptic thoughts.
You glow like a perfumed lamp
In the gathering shadows.
We play wine games
And recite each other’s poems.
Then you sing `Remembering South of the River’
With its heart breaking verses. Then
We paint each other’s beautiful eyebrows.
I want to possess you completely -
Your jade body
And your promised heart.
It is Spring.
Vast mists cover the Five Lakes.
My dear, let me buy a red painted boat
And carry you away.
NewOrleansPuma 11.23.08 at 1:33 am
Rose petals in my bed…
hillstheone 11.23.08 at 1:34 am
Tulips on your organ!
NewOrleansPuma 11.23.08 at 1:34 am
Dances: Whew…there is another one!
kat in your hat 11.23.08 at 1:34 am
NewOrleansPuma #181…yes, that is nice. I am impressed with good memory. I can remember things of no significant importance, except to me, or friends.
I remember being in the sink as a baby and my mother washing me (really). I remember my parents fighting when I was two years old, and my dad made a lamp fall and then they kissed each other and brought me between them to kiss me too while they were crying. I remember the clothes my friends wore on special nights…like what a girlfriend wore the night she lost her virginity, and I can remember the expressions of people, always can remmeber things people say, and what their auras are, but I guess not much by way of true importance. Memories are abstact with waves of emotion. I see a building and might know the architect. My father can tell me the architect’s life story…and it’s been that way.
kat in your hat 11.23.08 at 1:35 am
hillstheone 11.23.08 at 1:34 am
Tulips on your organ!
LOL!!
NewOrleansPuma 11.23.08 at 1:35 am
Hillstheone: Hi, hillsthe one…I am still blogging away raising hell and taking no prisoners re slime ball Ojingo.
DancesWithPumas 11.23.08 at 1:36 am
#181 NewOrleansPuma
a heroine of her own life.
it’s amazing how passion overcomes the most difficult of obstacles.
hillstheone 11.23.08 at 1:36 am
kat, how about these Jimi Hendrix lyrics, I always liked that line about the flag pole, lol…
~ ~ ~
People talkin’ but they just don’t know,
What’s in my heart, and why I love you so.
I love you baby like a miner loves gold.
Come on sugar, let the good times roll. hey!
So many people live in make believe,
They keep a lot a going up their sleeves.
But my love baby is no kind that folds.
Come On Baby, let the good times roll.
(Let the good times roll).
ah baby, come on and let daddy fill your soul.
baby, let the good times roll.
hey!
A love is nice if it’s understood
It’s even nicer when you’re feelin’ good
You got me flippin’ like a flag on a pole
Come on sugar, let the good times roll
Hey! Yeah! Let the good times roll!
feel me baby! Come on, good times roll!
come on and let me fill your soul,
hey, let the good times roll
DancesWithPumas 11.23.08 at 1:37 am
NewOrleansPuma 11.23.08 at 1:34 am
Dances: Whew…there is another one!
————
yes. exquisite.
kat in your hat 11.23.08 at 1:38 am
wait whoah shit, Dances…we posted the same sexy poem. lol
hillstheone 11.23.08 at 1:38 am
Hi Dances, long time no see, hope you have been feeling good!
I wish all us PUMA’s could have a reunion party someday…
NewOrleansPuma 11.23.08 at 1:39 am
#197katin the hat: But what you describe as the kinds of things your remember are the essence of human life and relationships…they are most important..their image, their power of emotion…you speak of emotional memory …so important…more important that the rational logical memory of items or facts …what you describe is a memory fit for love…and I hope you find a great grand soul mate of love for you are ready to remember and reverance that memory. That is the ultimate joy of the human…remember that!
kat in your hat 11.23.08 at 1:40 am
DancesWithPumas #193
Wu Tsao
omg, beautiful. oh oh
DancesWithPumas 11.23.08 at 1:41 am
kat in your hat 11.23.08 at 1:38 am
wait whoah shit, Dances…we posted the same sexy poem. lol
————–
I know! that’s what I was sayin’!!
Hiya Hills,
Thanks. Very well, thank you!
Hope the same for you!
hillstheone 11.23.08 at 1:42 am
NewOrleans,
Glad you are still fighting the good fight. I haven’t been keeping up w/politics at all, I tuned out now for a while. Feels GOOD, but I’m not used to feeling so ignorant, lol…
All I know is I don’t expect Obama to be sworn in in January, and “all is in divine order,” somehow…
NewOrleansPuma 11.23.08 at 1:44 am
Dances: Yes, that is it ..passion…that is what did it..and still she is passionate about everything…I love that..for passion about something, someone some where some truth some reality is our essence and if that passion is bound to truth then that is truly a fully lived life…The problem for example with the obama people is theirs is not passion ..they are caught in an enamoring of a fantasy which is not true and which will bring to them that which such brings: emptiness.
HiHat 11.23.08 at 1:44 am
While impossible to pick a favorite, this one has had some meaning to me:
A Man Young And Old: III. The Mermaid
A mermaid found a swimming lad,
Picked him for her own,
Pressed her body to his body,
Laughed; and plunging down
Forgot in cruel happiness
That even lovers drown.
William Butler Yeats
hillstheone 11.23.08 at 1:45 am
kat, I saw a good English movie tonight called “Happy Go Lucky,” you should go see it because there’s a scene in there where the gal starts to undress the guy, and you see his back & neck from behind, and oh yeah it’s a pretty good scene, Lol…!
NewOrleansPuma 11.23.08 at 1:46 am
#208Hillsthe one: Oh we all need breaks.. I took a little one.
I expect another one to be needed soon..it is the way it is.
NewOrleansPuma 11.23.08 at 1:47 am
HiHat: Oh another great Yeats poem..thank you so much…how I do love Yeats.
kat in your hat 11.23.08 at 1:48 am
NewOrleansPuma #205, yes, very very pretty. I think that’s how I remember. I will have love and it will be grand. yes, I think so.
kat in your hat 11.23.08 at 1:49 am
hillstheone: #211; lol! Yesss.
hillstheone 11.23.08 at 1:50 am
HiHat, I like Yeats, but that doesn’t sound like a very happy ending for the lad…! I have been reading a big book called Creative Mythology, and just finished a chapter about love & death (Triston & Isolt type stuff).
It’s really good, makes me think, probably good for my brain…
BrianH 11.23.08 at 1:50 am
Trish;
Urgent message for you here:
http://pumapac.org/2008/11/22/please-make-it-stop/#comment-245701
kat in your hat 11.23.08 at 1:51 am
HiHat, oh yes, I love it. Oh, it’s funny and ironic and sad.
NewOrleansPuma 11.23.08 at 1:51 am
My dear and well beloved Pumas..this ole Puma needs to go to bed. I hate to leave you wondersul souls for the conversation is really fine this late night..but I have to..I send each of you a hug and hope to see you all on the morrow, shall we say?
Sweet abiding dreams..I was thinking a couple of days ago that soon we will have known each other almost 6 months…That is something…amazing…Good night dear souls.
hillstheone 11.23.08 at 1:53 am
Sweet dreams, New Orleans…!
kat in your hat 11.23.08 at 1:53 am
NewOrleansPuma, goodnight sweetheart. xo
HiHat 11.23.08 at 1:53 am
hillstheone #216
Yes, well, Yeats did have a difficult time with love, and it didn’t end happily for him, in some ways.
NewOrleansPuma 11.23.08 at 1:53 am
Katinthehat: Before I go…Yes, yes you will..I know so…it will come when you least expect…and you will be ready…
Good night, again, Kat.
hillstheone 11.23.08 at 1:53 am
kat, have you heard anything new about Rezko or the BC issue lately?
hillstheone 11.23.08 at 1:56 am
#222 HiHat, well you know the old Buddhist saying, “Life is difficult,” at least the lad w/his mermaid went out w/a smile on his face..!
kat in your hat 11.23.08 at 1:57 am
NewOrleansPuma: thank you..g’night xo
hillstheone:
Rezko, well, I believe Patrick Fitzgerald must wait until after January to get trial proceeding. You know, wait till after inauguration. (blah) The BC issue is all over the place with lawsuits. But Keyes has a case, and apparently this bc drama is at our highest court in front of Thomas, so we shall see what develops. Nothing new now, sorry.
kat in your hat 11.23.08 at 1:58 am
wait, before you all go…gimme ‘nother sexy one…’nother love one.
HiHat 11.23.08 at 1:59 am
hillstheone #225
Yes. Or maybe he could have learned how to hold his breath longer.
hillstheone 11.23.08 at 1:59 am
Hi kat,
Oh yeah, how could I forget, my hero Patrick is taking his time cause he’s so thorough…
S/Be interesting to see what develops w/the BC lawsuit, for sure.
DancesWithPumas 11.23.08 at 2:00 am
I gotta fix this, for the record:
It’s a passage from Hermann Hesse’s Steppenwolf:
“For I am the Steppenwolf, that beast astray, who finds neither home, nor joy, nor comfort, in a world that is strange and incomprehensible to him.”
Okay. I feel better now.
45 years ago is 45 years ago … now, even my long term memory is going.
hillstheone 11.23.08 at 2:02 am
kat, I need to log off but I’ll do some “homework” this week & try to find a good one & post it next weekend. One w/plenty of steam, lol!
HiHat 11.23.08 at 2:03 am
For kat:
SONNET 29
When, in disgrace with fortune and men’s eyes,
I all alone beweep my outcast state
And trouble deaf heaven with my bootless cries
And look upon myself and curse my fate,
Wishing me like to one more rich in hope,
Featured like him, like him with friends possess’d,
Desiring this man’s art and that man’s scope,
With what I most enjoy contented least;
Yet in these thoughts myself almost despising,
Haply I think on thee, and then my state,
Like to the lark at break of day arising
From sullen earth, sings hymns at heaven’s gate;
For thy sweet love remember’d such wealth brings
That then I scorn to change my state with kings.
William Shakespeare
kat in your hat 11.23.08 at 2:03 am
hillstheone, ok, thank you. lol! gnight kiddo xo
hillstheone 11.23.08 at 2:03 am
#228 HiHat, maybe they should have tried a waterfall, lol…
kat in your hat 11.23.08 at 2:09 am
HiHat, I love it sweetie…you know, again, I wrote several papers on Shakespeare’s sonnets…I swear I am doomed if I can’t remember this stuff now. DOOMED!
HiHat 11.23.08 at 2:12 am
Kat,
You’re not French are you?
kat in your hat 11.23.08 at 2:13 am
lol…HiHat. no. *smiling*
DancesWithPumas 11.23.08 at 2:15 am
StateOfDisbelief’s piece at:
http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/
Caffeine has worn off… I can finally go to bed.
Goodnight, Puma Nation.
kat in your hat 11.23.08 at 2:15 am
holy crap…I am getting sucked into sonnets online…ohhh, what happened to me…this was mine, all gone. darn it. lol. School became too much about grades. Breaking night, racking my brain…lost the pretty.
HiHat 11.23.08 at 2:17 am
goodnight, dances.
Yeah, I gotta go too. Some writing I must get done.
Goodnight Pumas.
kat in your hat 11.23.08 at 2:23 am
Gnight HiHat. Goodnight Dances. xoxox
I am reading Rumi.
wow, look at this:
THE SHIP SUNK IN LOVE
Should Love’s heart rejoice unless I burn?
For my heart is Love’s dwelling.
If You will burn Your house, burn it, Love!
Who will say, ‘It’s not allowed’?
Burn this house thoroughly!
The lover’s house improves with fire.
From now on I will make burning my aim,
From now on I will make burning my aim,
for I am like the candle: burning only makes me brighter.
Abandon sleep tonight; traverse fro one night
the region of the sleepless.
Look upon these lovers who have become distraught
and like moths have died in union with the One Beloved.
Look upon this ship of God’s creatures
and see how it is sunk in Love.
Oh Beloved,
take me.
Liberate my soul.
Fill me with your love and
release me from the two worlds.
If I set my heart on anything but you
let fire burn me from inside.
Oh Beloved,
take away what I want.
Take away what I do.
Take away what I need.
Take away everything
that takes me from you
kat in your hat 11.23.08 at 2:32 am
OOooOOoo, can’t stop reading Rumi, ok, gnight all xoxo. I go read now.
BrianH 11.23.08 at 2:35 am
Interesting point made here: http://countusout.wordpress.com/2008/11/06/sigh-of-relief-for-a-moment-anyway-president-elect-who-may-not-be-constitutionally-eligible-probably-wont-be-allowed-to-betray-usa-before-january-20-2009/ . Obama isn’t getting any really sensitive info, and may not even submit his name for security clearance, because one of the first items that would be checked out thoroughly is his birth and citizenship status, as would be true for anyone applying.
The thought plickens!
kat in your hat 11.23.08 at 2:40 am
The thought plickens!
lmao! lol…
ok, now I am signing off for bed. xo Rumi is good.
MKfromLA 11.23.08 at 2:48 am
Dances – you have mail.
Hi PUMAs & good night to all.
PumaRhythm 11.23.08 at 3:19 am
Hello….for all of you late nite Pumas….this is a beautiful video to watch before turning in…hope you enjoy it….sweet dreams to all…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1g3YN8qIifM&NR=1
BrianH 11.23.08 at 4:26 am
Oh, for kat and those asking about solar, here’s some info on the pages of Tesla Motors, which has the first full-range pure electric car on the market, and many buyers and users very interested in solar power for overnight recharging:
http://www.teslamotors.com/blog2/?p=29
and
http://www.teslamotors.com/blog2/?p=56
On this page http://www.teslamotors.com/blog2/?p=60 , a company owner commented
# doug cheeseman wrote on June 30th, 2008 at 7:30 pm
Fantastic news!!! We are very excited in the Cheesemans’ Family and Cheesemans’ Ecolgy Safaris. We have ordered the Roadster over a year ago and now will order the 5 passenger Sedan. We have solar panels all over our roof and want to be totally solar for our vehicles. We are a green company and promote saving habitats and wildlife and want to promote clean air. Thank you for your good work Tesla.
Doug Cheeseman
_______________
gojoyknocks 11.23.08 at 6:05 am
An interesting manifestation of my mental illness. Poetry and jazz infuriate me. It might be a cadence thing. I equate them to public masterbastion…Thought I’d share.
prowlland 11.23.08 at 6:47 am
This is my favorite poem:
Barack Obama sat on a wall
Barack Obama had a great fall
All the Kings Horses and all the
Kings men couldn’t put
Barck Obama back together again !!
http://my.wrif.com/mim/?p=916
12 min and 30 sec into the tape
Delle 11.23.08 at 7:22 am
I like just about every poem written by Edgar Allen Poe, but my very favorite is “A Dream Within A Dream”.
Each time I read it, I find myself sitting silently for several moments concentrating on the words.
Delle
GoPumaGo 11.23.08 at 7:22 am
SONNET 29
When, in disgrace with fortune and men’s eyes,
I all alone beweep my outcast state
And trouble deaf heaven with my bootless cries
And look upon myself and curse my fate,
Wishing me like to one more rich in hope,
Featured like him, like him with friends possess’d,
Desiring this man’s art and that man’s scope,
With what I most enjoy contented least;
Yet in these thoughts myself almost despising,
Haply I think on thee, and then my state,
Like to the lark at break of day arising
From sullen earth, sings hymns at heaven’s gate;
For thy sweet love remember’d such wealth brings
That then I scorn to change my state with kings.
GoPumaGo 11.23.08 at 7:25 am
for Delle
A Dream Within A Dream
Take this kiss upon the brow!
And, in parting from you now,
Thus much let me avow-
You are not wrong, who deem
That my days have been a dream;
Yet if hope has flown away
In a night, or in a day,
In a vision, or in none,
Is it therefore the less gone?
All that we see or seem
Is but a dream within a dream.
I stand amid the roar
Of a surf-tormented shore,
And I hold within my hand
Grains of the golden sand-
How few! yet how they creep
Through my fingers to the deep,
While I weep- while I weep!
O God! can I not grasp
Them with a tighter clasp?
O God! can I not save
One from the pitiless wave?
Is all that we see or seem
But a dream within a dream?
Edgar Allan Poe
turndownobama 11.23.08 at 7:43 am
Now that I’m over feeling it, or something like it, here’s a sad poem from Browning. (Delete if it’s too sad or seems too harsh.)
The reason I’m over feeling it is that it’s now starting to look like the Clintons had a Secret Plan to somehow get Obama to appoint all the old Clinton cabinet people (especially Summers, yay!) and do a Clinton Restoration after all. (I suspect blackmail.
Just for a handful of silver he left us,
Just for a riband to stick in his coat –
Found the one gift of which fortune bereft us,
Lost all the others she lets us devote;
They, with the gold to give, doled him out silver,
So much was theirs who so little allowed:
How all our copper had gone for his service!
Rags – were they purple, his heart had been proud!
We that had loved him so, followed him, honoured him,
Lived in his mild and magnificent eye,
Learned his great language, caught his clear accents,
Made him our pattern to live and to die!
Shakespeare was of us, Milton was for us,
Burns, Shelley, were with us – they watch from their graves!
He alone breaks from the van and the freemen,
– He alone sinks to the rear and the slaves!
We shall march prospering – not through his presence;
Songs may inspirit us, – not from his lyre;
Deeds will be done, – while he boasts his quiescence,
Still bidding crouch whom the rest bade aspire:
Blot out his name, then, record one lost soul more,
One task more declined, one more footpath untrod,
One more devils’-triumph and sorrow for angels,
One wrong more to man, one more insult to God!
Life’s night begins: let him never come back to us!
There would be doubt, hesitation and pain,
Forced praise on our part – the glimmer of twilight,
Never glad confident morning again!
Best fight on well, for we taught him – strike gallantly,
Menace our heart ere we master his own;
Then let him receive the new knowledge and wait us,
Pardoned in heaven, the first by the throne!
Notyoursweetie 11.23.08 at 7:53 am
The winner of this election? Poppy! he finally got a POTUS who will listen to him
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/11/23/poppys-obama-finally-a-potus-who-will-listen-again/
murphy 11.23.08 at 8:21 am
oh rats gojoyknocks, then you probably wont enjoy this morning’s Happy Song.
It’s posted now (late! sorry!)
Let me know if you hate it — I really like the Pink Martinis even though I feel similarly to you about jazz,
take it upstairs!
Heneri 11.23.08 at 8:56 am
Those days are gone my friend
Sometimes I wish we could live again
The good times that we had
My memories make me glad
We have new dreams that we must heed
We have new lives that we both must lead
As you go down that new road you travel
May the grace of God go with you
——————————————
I wrote this for a high school friend after graduation. It remains one of my favorite pieces.
Delle 11.23.08 at 9:03 am
GoPumaGo –
Thanks so much for printing the poem.
It filled with with chills, just as it always does.
I can picture in my mind the image of a lost, lonely soul standing on the beach in agony as he tries to stop the grains of sand from slipping through his fingers.
A wonderful poem.
Delle
Delle 11.23.08 at 9:24 am
Here is another poem I enjoy:
My candle burns at both ends;
It will not last the night;
But ah, my foes, and oh, my friends -
It gives a lovely light!
Edna St. Vincent Millay
Delle
BrianH 11.23.08 at 11:43 am
Heneri;
Were you “tracking” Those Were the Days”? The cadence etc. is almost identical (from memory, excuse any errors):
Those were the days, my friend;
We thought they’d never end!
We’d live and laugh,
Forever and a day …
We’d live the life we choose –
We’d fight and never lose!
Those were the days,
Oh, yes, those were the days!
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