Please. Make it stop.

NewOrleansPuma 11.22.08 at 1:08 pm

From below, yes it was Life

Excellent post by Uppity Woman, please read:

“Copy Cat Obama rounds out his cabinet–Hillary has accepted Secretary of State” http://uppitywoman08.wordpress.com/2008/11/22/copy-cat-obama-rounds-out-his-cabinet-hillary-has-accepted-secretary-of-state/

Also — Awesome article — I totally agree. The lessons of the board game Monopoly can be applied to our adult life.

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2008/11/obamonopoly_1.html

Sorry forgot the link to #6:

http://blog.wired.com/business/2008/11/internet-fox-ne.html

Murphy: Yes, this IS seriously pathetic.
The two talking head females are the most pathetic of all.
They know enough about politics to give out flyers on the street.
Christopher H. in my view has always been on any subject I have ever read by him an arrogant kind of Gore Vidal type, so very much in love with his own addled brain,

I could not look at the rest, but I certainly thank you for being able to and for posting it here.

So what happened with your roof? Did I miss that?

#4mzebest: Yes. I understand . I knew that about you previously, having read your comments over our time here, and I always enjoy your angle and perspective.
As I indicated, I am very glad you posted the link and I hope you find some other links along the way to add to the pool of ongoing knowledge and angles and consideration that members here need to review and consider!!, Your posts,,mzebest, I have always considered thoughtful, useful and important ones, because of your varied angles on “things.”

Murphy, have you thawed out yet?

Those videos are sad and sick. To think how they could hate someone that much without any real reason other than she’s a strong woman. But that’s actually it!

I was glad to see Peter Beinart rebutting Hitchens and Crackle. He was the only one with logical reasoning. The other two let their venom and hate skew their vision.

Re news survey results: Hey, Chrissy boy, who the hell are you talking to? Under 2%, trust you, Chris, baby,..so,Chris, what’s happening, big boy? You been throwin Spit balls too long Chris, baby..instead of Hard balls..After a while, people get tired of having to wipe the spit off their faces..know what I mean, big man?

What should Santa bring Chris boy for Christmas? Clearly, a much much smaller Jock Strap!

I forced myself to watch the first two, but when sullivan started talking I could not stand anymore. The white woman in the first clip must live underground in a kool-aid grotto. I will never understand how these people can hate the Clintons as much as they do.

Christmas Prowl Idea for Chris boy: Let us all go find and buy the very smallest Jock strap we can find or better yet make one and write on the front the following: Merry Christimas, Chris boy. This should be big enough to hold the under 2% of people who trust you. See what happens to MSM male perpetrators of femal abuse? They shrink..every day, in every way! Merry Christmas, signed, Me, New Orleans Puma
PumaPac..www.pumapac.org (Of course, you put your own name!)

12TrishfromCanada: I am very glad you are a PumaPac member. I think this group has wonderful minds, spirits, wills..I am grateful for it and everyone here.

did anybody notice the words used in those written posts linked under the videos? “hiring,” “tarnish” “haunt” – subversive and subliminal.

I noticed catsden. Seems like a coordinated message. I also noticed the word drama. Like Hillary is a drama queen causing Obama all sorts of trouble.

Does anyone think o is using the media to make her unable to accept the position that he “offered”. Something just doesn’t feel right to me. Is he trying to worm a way out of it?

Or do I have my tinfoil on to tight?

WTF is wrong with these people ?

http://wcbstv.com/topstories/church.homeless.shelter.2.871184.html

My favorite kind of people are the pissed off ones!

Loved it PugetSIG!

29TexasTigress: Churches will not be seen in the Bo regime as purveryors of help…the state will.

Texas: I hope you do not miss my Christmas Prowl Present for Chris Matthews…I will bring it up again closer to Christmas
I just know you will want to send a caring care package to him. See my posts, here, 15, 19 and 22 for a little pre holiday cheer and chuckle!

#30 I may have missed something here: what do you mean by “rant”?

Another related story to the radio show talk with Kenyan Ambassador

http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2008/11/kenyas-ambassador-sure-obama-was-born.html

Ex-Dem and Taggles:

I think Obladi is hoping she’ll say no and giving her as much time as possible. Hillary is already stealing his thunder – his own people are criticizing him. He may just want to piss us off again, but what would he get from that? If her people leaked the story so he couldn’t withdraw it, she wins. If his people leaked it and he withdraws it, she wins. The only way we really lose is if we were set up from the beginning – and quite frankly even that would not diminish the respect for all she has acomplished and all she has gone through as wife, mother, lawyer, senator, presidential candidate. and all the other things she has done as a super woman.

I am still just SICK about NYC Officials prohibiting churches from providing shelter to the homeless on these and upcoming freezing nights .
What good reason could they possibly have for that , and why do they even get to tell the churches that in the first place ???

http://wcbstv.com/topstories/church.homeless.shelter.2.871184.html

I am SICK < SICK < SICK about it .

sue66 #250

“Can anyone explain to me what the secretary of state even does.”

FYI:
Duties of the Secretary of State
http://www.state.gov/secretary/96.htm

KarenWI #2

Nope, it doesn’t “blow my socks off” … because it doesn’t mean anything and it doesn’t change anything.

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Reposting link to audio tape… be patient… what you’ll hear from about 12 minutes in until the end will blow your socks off about Obama’s birthplace:
http://my.wrif.com/mim/?p=916

Good evening , just got back and had to make dinner now catching up on the post from downstairs and now upstairs..
TexasTigress that makes me sick beyond belief also about the homeless.
Murphy those videos were enough to turn my stomach god I hate people I really do!

Hello all! I was reading a few post … trying to catch-up. I am sitting here watch LSU get the butts kicked.

TexasT. – saw the article … that is terrible! I am not sure how they can do that! I thought that churches were private?

@ #42:

I left a message for Arnold Cohen on his voicemail, and said that I hoped that they were at least offering shuttle service.

I also emailed them and will try them again during office hours.

I think they want the homeless to come to them so they can sort of snag them and help them with resources and housing, which is good, but too many church dependent homeless will be upset about their church shutting down on them. I hope it’s not that they just walk up and there is a sign on the door telling them an address to the shelter. I guess it will be. It’s too cold to even think how to go somewhere new, and I realize many must prefer the privacy and peace in a church, instead of some kind of vast communal bed warehouse. A lot of them, I am sure, do not want to socialize, or have to deal with filling out paper work, etc. The chronically homeless are going to be very distressed by the churches closing their doors. Hopefully Arnold Cohen and his Partnership for the Homeless have made special plans to help such people.

Presidnet Hillary Rodham Clinton will be the SOS.
In a year, Ogofluckyourself will fire her. They’ll announce publically that HRC “wants to spend more time with her family”; and that way she’ll be out of the senate, out of the State Dept, out of government, and out of their hair. Done. Gone. Out. Fini.

my hat is off to anyone who was able to watch all of the above videos, I am disgusted- they are just a despicable group of people.
And what are they all going to do if she accepts SOS? They can’t bad mouth her because that would be bad-mouthing Obambi.
I am as disgusted with the media as I have ever been with anything in my entire life- Chris Matthews is an absolute disgrace. He is neck-and-neck with that loud mouth fatso Keith Olberman.
Alec Baldwin had a nice post on Huffy- (if you erase the nice words he also has for Nobie)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/alec-baldwin/hoping-hillary-says-yes_b_145587.html

Since, we are on the subject of homeless people, etc …

I received an interesting e-mail (article) from a buddy of mine. (I would show it to yall, but I erased it accidently)After reading it, I wondered what yall thought of this idea? Just curious …

The article was about … “Drug Screening for Welfare recipients.” The author said, that he had to be drug screened for most of his jobs throughout his life. He said that “since his tax dollars went to pay for welfare … why could welfare recip. NOT be drug tested (for illegal substances only)in order to receive a check per month??? The author believes that this would reduce some welfare dependency etc…

I just can’t be mad or angry at a woman who is trying to do what she thinks is best for herself. Do I wish for me that she wouldn’t accept SOS, yes. But if we support women, shouldn’t support women who make choices we may not agree with.

I just can’t judge her, especially when I watch this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QHQt79G_ns

#41 Texas Tigress and
#42 Kat in your hat

The article says the city has enough beds for all of the homeless. Why NOT have them go to a city shelter? Isn’t the city in a better position to do that? The churches here don’t want to complain publicly but they are terribly overburdened with the homeless problem. I think it’s a good step to have the municipalities step up to the plate on this. The other good thing is that something run by the government is less likely to discriminate on the basis of race, religion, etc.

In our city we have also had homeless freeze to death. If you actually go and talk to the homeless themselves, they will tell stories about their friends who fell off the wagon, passed out drunk and woke up with serious frostbite.

Some churches I know will give any homeless person a ride to a municipal shelter for free. There are homeless who are afraid of the shelters–the women say their shelters are safer–but they prefer to get a train ticket and ride the underground trains all night to keep warm. Some church programs will give out train passes.

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mick 11.22.08 at 6:29 pm

“Reposting link to audio tape… be patient… what you’ll hear from about 12 minutes in until the end will blow your socks off about Obama’s birthplace:”
http://my.wrif.com/mim/?p=916

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Mick — in case you missed it — here’s the highlights taken from the full link you posted. This condensed section is a YouTube link if it helps to pass this around:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sFuzrEDwCc

And I also found this article on this radio episode interesting as well since I believe it offers links to prove that the Ambassador’s voice is legitimate from other recordings of his voice:

http://thesteadydrip.blogspot.com/2008/11/kenyas-ambassador-sure-obama-was-born.html

Also… I’ll repost a FOX interview on the discussion about the insufficient punishment against the illegal use of government agencies to investigate Joe the Plumber.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgUGVWIo4Tg

http://www.jibjab.com/originals/what_we_call_the_news

Poking fun at the news. It’s hilarious!

wontbackdown 11.22.08 at 7:15 pm…Here..Here!! My sentiments exactly..I guess the OBOTS need to “get over it”..as they told us Hillary supporters! Now that they don’t have Palin to bash they are starting on Hillary again…When will it all end????

mzebest #63

I heard the audio. Again, the audio changes nothing. Dear Leader is still our Dear Leader …

Even if the Ambassador’s voice is legit, his comments will change nothing. Documented proof will still be needed.

Sorry, but I see no reason to be excited about this audio.

(Thanks Kat) From the link to Uppity Woman’s article re: Hillary and the SOS:
Some morsels of revenge served cold–(though I am still pissed)

“The other positive to Hillary’s acceptance of the Secretary of State slot is more impish on my part, I confess. The Hillary offer is resulting in borderline vascular incidents among the left cliff socialist Huffys, Movey Onzers and Kossacks. They are truly having attacks of anxiety as they watch Barack Obama put together a Bill Clinton administration, complete with his superior opponent, Hillary.”
“Copy Cat Obama rounds out his cabinet–Hillary has accepted Secretary of State” http://uppitywoman08.wordpress.com/2008/11/22/copy-cat-obama-rounds-out-his-cabinet-hillary-has-accepted-secretary-of-state/

Also… this video brought tears to my eyes. RUN! (away from Obama)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzlnHFgJ2Vk

The video was posted on http://obambi.wordpress.com/ which appears to have some other interesting articles if anyone cares to peruse the headlines.

Nijma #61:

I’m concerned with the psychological effect of shutting down the churches. I don’t want people to feel abandoned and confused, and if they are going to churches in the first place–it is a sign that they likely avoid shelters. A lot of homeless people are very anti-shelter, and I wouldn’t want them to just try to huddle somewhere and get through the night out of fear of change or obstinance or pride, and then freeze to death. Plus, you know, a lot of these chronically mentally ill just can’t cope with the hassles of planning and bureaucracy and being social. Anyway, I hope they are offered rides to the shelters, and to other open churches if they wish. Can’t force people to sleep at a shelter if they don’t want, so I hope many agree to go. But now the choice sounds like shelter or street–that’s one less choice without the churches.

taggles1 11.22.08 at 7:09 pm:

I agree. I refuse to BLAME HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON for anything – especially not for her failed candidacy, a voting block so full of sexist hate that they have gotten themselves hung in Obama’s zipper and being forced into choosing between serving in Foreign Policy or our fricking own foreign legislature being controlled by our now foreign Demon-cratic Party.

The woman has a strength that not a single one of her political “colleagues” can even recognize – few of them would even be standing – much less get up from even one of the thousands of punches and low blows she has taken for years and years! imho

HAIL TO THE CHIEF! HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON – THE PEOPLES’ PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMEIRCA! That’s what I say.

#60 SouthernGAL68
“drug screening for welfare recipients”

Welfare doesn’t really exist any more. That was Big Dawg’s doing back in 1996 or so. Everyone who was getting benefits had to be either employed a certain number of hours a week or in a work search program. Then the number of hours increased and increased again, until if you were working the required number of hours, eventually your income was too high to qualify.

That was back when there was full employment and practically everyone who wanted a job could get one. The only exceptions were for pregnant women, who could get something called TANF, “temporary assistance for needy families”, as a lot of employers won’t hire someone who is visibly pregnant. There are still programs like food stamps and medical assistance for the disabled and those over 65 or under 19, also though I think the later is a state program.

There are certainly drug users in that population, but trying to get someone on drugs to check into rehab is notoriously difficult. Usually their lives quickly deteriorate to the point where they are no longer able to care for their children, and the caseworker gets a phone call from the relative who has the children.

There has been some success with screening the incarcerated for paternity, since they can’t refuse a paternity test when they’re in prison. Then on the outside chance they are able to get a job when they come out, there is a mechanism for getting child support deducted fomr their paychecks.

Paternity tracking ends up being cost effective for the state, as the fathers take some financial responsibility for taking care of their families. Drug testing I think is a waste of time.

NewOrleans … You are right … I totally agree! Take gov. $$$ … Take gov. regs!

Kat … thanks for your opinion! Just on the flip side … I go to get a job! I am drug tested to aquire that job! I FAIL … NO JOB. Are they dicriminating aganist me???

Mzebest … I noticed that the call was made on Friday! 21st
Have news stations picked this up???

SouthernGAL68:

“Are they dicriminating aganist me???” Actually, my opinion is that they might be, but it depends on what you do, and employers can do what they want pretty much.

I don’t think it’s anybody’s business to know what is in your blood stream unless you could harm yourself or others in your profession simply based on side effects of drugs.

Goodnight Pumas – got to get back to work.

Here’s a video you’ll love. It’s Reverend Manning “politely” asking Obama for his birth certificate. Enjoy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJc6uczdhE0

#84Nijma: I certainly already knew what you posted as a response to my comments in post#86, which is why I asked you what state you are in now, because your universal comments are not sufficient to judge the worth and accuracy of your judgments relative to the items you speak universally about.

Nijma: I guess I will just right out say it. I think you are speaking beyond your knowledge and that is ok, I guess, but do expect me and others to challenge you on that tendency here as I have attempted to do with little so far success.

Nijma,

Thank you for your opinion! I was curious what yall thought about this. I summarized food stamps, gov. assist., section 8 housing and used the word, “welfare”. (less typing) Ha!

Kat … I am playing Devil’s advocate with you. So, I am not being argumentative. (Just to let you know.) Flip side …
The gov. is GIVING some type of assistance, so do they have the right to discriminate “for” or “against” whom they choose to give it to. Just as an employer has the “right” to choose who they drug test and hire (or not hire).

Nijma,
well, I hope the churches disregard orders if it’s necessary. I actually do not understand how the city can tell them what to do. Maybe they are receiving government aid of some sort, and the non-profit sector is muscling the homeless away from them to eventually gain more financial grants from the city. I don’t know. I figure the real plan is to “catch” the homeless people to offer resources and housing, etc, but it’s a severe way to do it.

You can believe me or not as you wish.

SouthernGAL68,

I love devil’s advocate debates. (I know you aren’t being argumentative. Just brain stroking.)

“The gov. is GIVING some type of assistance, so do they have the right to discriminate “for” or “against” whom they choose to give it to. Just as an employer has the “right” to choose who they drug test and hire (or not hire).”
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No. Programs can be altered for women vs men, young v. old, and able v. disabled, etc. But no, they should not discriminate. I think there is discrimination based on income, which is tricky. It forces people to work less (or off the books) to maintain assistance.

#96
pa dem 11.22.08 at 8:07 pm

“What is most astonishing about Donofrio’s case is that Nobama and McCain were not the only ones on the ballot with questionable citizenship status.”

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The other thing astonishing about Donofrio’s case is that he has documented proof of a conversation that the Sec. of State did nothing to ensure that any of the candidates were qualified by the Constitutional requirements. There was a conversation with officials that admitted this. I think his case is extremely credible. He also has proof of illegal attempts to stonewall his case in the lower courts to get him to go away.

MZEBETH,

Love the videos! The call to Kenya just happened yesterday …Right??? Now that there is even more evidence (by an official of Kenya) that BO was born in Kenya, why have news stations NOT picked this up??? Has anyone sent this to FOX News, etc…? How in the hell are they (Kenya) going to explain this monument stating … “Birth Place of Obama” in Kenya??
Picture it …. B. Obama … President of the United States and this big ass monument in Kenys stating “Birth Place of the President of the United States. How weird is that!

lol

97Kat in Hat : If churches receive and use government funds for what they do, then they either do what the rules and regs say or they give up the money. That is one issue.
If, however, the Churches do not receive government money for what they do and, in fact, there is a positive law in NY which mandates that any shelter that does not offer on a regular basis 5 night a week acces can not by the fact and fact alone offer any shelter at all to a person who is homeless, then …that is another issue..a civil rights issue for the homeless person who may so choose to go to a church, and it is another issue….the inteference of a civil, secular government by way of a postive law that tells a private entity, a Church, it can not do an action that that Church deems a religious act or its belief system. That is in my view and Constitutional issue and should be challenaged all the way to the Supreme Court. And then there is the ongoing issue always regarding the choice of a homeless person to not go in any shelter, another action surrounded for sometime by sets of laws,..that is another issue.

The most important of these issues, from my point of view, especially given the
programme..speling intentional of this incoming regime is the most serious of all and that is the one where a positve law by a secular government, in in fact the NY law says this, that a Church can not choose to minister to a homeless person with their own funds and on their own terms. This is a very serious issue…indeed.

New Orleans Puma- Your post on the CC was beautiful. I agree. The fact that mere mortals are in control of the Church and distorting Christ’s message, will not force me to give up on it. I am Christ’s Church as much as they are, even if they are ordained. I will be an Eucharistic Minister at my Church tomorrow at 9 and it is an honor beyond belief.

You know, I haven’t been into this whole birth certificate thing, but it’s really absurd that Obama will not simply produce it. It’s getting to be very bizarre. If half a dozen people sued me for proof of my BC, and it was going to the Supreme Court, I mean…I wouldn’t even let it get that far. What’s the big deal–just show it. It’s starting to feel like basic common sense that he must be hiding something, otherwise why is this so sneaky and covert? Shouldn’t be like pulling teeth to get some ID.

Maybe the city wants all the homeless to visit their shelters and a way to make that happen is to close shelters that are only open when the temperature drops below a certain degree.

That way they can keep track of people and maybe get them to shelter for a longer period of time.

But what the hell do I know. I am no expert and I am only guessing.

#108 goofsmom

Also keep your eye on this case by Cort Wrotnowski which will be filed in Connecticut this Monday. He is getting advice from Donofrio and is also filing against the Sec. of State and shows great promise in his court paperwork.

http://countusout.wordpress.com/2008/11/22/cort-wrotnowski-of-connecticut-vs-secretary-of-state/

Nijma: Let me try one more time: Please tell me very specifiall what you are advocating in your posts here regarding homeless people and Churhes. Please tell me very specifically what you reject . What is your point regarding these items. What? These are two simple, straight forward answers…and I expect as I would think others might a couple of specifice statements.

kat in your hat 11.22.08 at 8:27 pm
You know, I haven’t been into this whole birth certificate thing, but it’s really absurd
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Maybe he just wants the froth around the BC issue to reach critical mass, then he’ll whip out a valid BC, and point out that the masses that are against him (because he’s black), and all critiques, and suspicions of him will have to go underground because no one wants to be labeled “RACIST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”

DancesWithPumas, yeah really. I think he’s playing head games. Whole thing could be just to flip the bird again at any who wish to QUESTION THE GREAT OBAMALAMADINGDONG.

Dances & Kat

I would agree, except for the fact that it is in front of the SCOTUS. Why let it get that far? There is no reason for him to want that kind of attention.

124taggles: I wish that were so. It is not. Nothing is as it was before this man. And this issue coincidentaly or not speaks right to the heart of the kind of so called change that will emanate from Barack Obama. This is a serious issue here.

NewOrleansPuma:

Yeah, see this is my fear. I like some needful government programs, but I don’t like signs of massive government because then people can’t breathe or grow or even dream. Our country is the best because of freedom and our culture of individualism.

And so, I don’t like too much religion controlling things and I don’t like too much government controlling things. It binds the people. Religion should try to keep out of government and vice versa. It’s scary difficult to maintain the balance and space.

Goofsmom … I am not an attorney, so I do not know law specs, but what about this …. Question 4 u
You are right, there is no sworn affidavit. I remember a professor of mine (Federal Law Class – 20 years ago) talking about “probable cause”. Now that an official of Kenya has NOT refuted the statement about BO being born there etc …. Is this enough “probable cause” to investigate the matter futher?? I know that this would be on a Federal level, but I am not sure how this would work. Do you know by some chance or I am just dreaming that this could finally be enough to atleast get the ball rolling on the BC issue?????

goofsmom #125

good point. Yes, and why waste so much money as well, this must be costing a fortune.

Hey DWP try using spaces between…Let’s see if this will work?? If not, I tried.. :btroll: test

Freedie … that is truely kind! I think tents and/or sleeping bags (either) is a great idea. I live in Louisiana and it got into the LOW 30s last night with high winds. Cold as &^^%$$ I thought about the same thing as I also sat in my warm house. I wondered (and worried) about all the people and animals who had to endure such a cold night. How are they making it???

Everytime I see the acronym SCOTUS, it reads in my head as SCROTUM, I wish there was a better acronym or that i was illiterate

I want to see the :btroll: icon!

ok this is funny, or at least I found it funny

while working on the FEC stuff I can across a Bo donor who works for the vomit abuse counselling centre. lol see that cracks me up, i’d need to visit that clinic if i gave bo any money.

So…. what does everyone think of O’s “saturday show” statement that he’s …what?… got a plan to create 2.5 million jobs?

TrishfromCanada 11.22.08 at 9:05 pm
Everytime I see the acronym SCOTUS, it reads in my head as SCROTUM, I wish there was a better acronym or that i was illiterate
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Happens to me sometimes too.

Casper… some of teh emoticons do not work with wordpress.

kat
It :btroll: isn’t very good graphic…more like a yellow and brown ink splotch

Nijma! We are going back and forth, where did you run off to? It wasn’t an argument, was it? uhm

“vomit abuse counselling centre.”

Must be for anorexics, unless there are people who vomit for teh sheer thrill of it.

KarenWI, I have no idea how O can create jobs now. I guess through Hillary’s green collar plan…? I dunno.

taggles: nobody said it was not serious. certainly not you!

The lawsuits at SCOTUS seems to be working. If what this web site says is true then Obama is in trouble.

http://www.theobamafile.com/ObamaLatest.htm

Like I keep saying. Hillary will be our next President.

#130freddiebrown: You are a good and loving soul…

Casper Cat
Called Mass Fire Dept and report PUMA stuck on roof.

Murphy said earlier things went well on the roof, but she would be back when she warmed up

#121 DancesWithPumas

“Maybe he just wants the froth around the BC issue to reach critical mass, then he’ll whip out a valid BC, and point out that the masses that are against him (because he’s black), and all critiques, and suspicions of him will have to go underground because no one wants to be labeled “RACIST”

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The fact is that the above comment helps to perpetuate the ignorance on these lawsuits that are now gaining speed. It’s obvious that PUMAPAC is ignoring the fact that these lawsuits are also becoming noticed because of the importance behind the issues at stake. I posted a similar comment downstairs but let me say this again: This is NOT ABOUT A BIRTH CERTIFICATE — this is about BEING A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN.

There’s a huge difference between these two concepts. The importance of the Donofrio case is that even if Obama DOES PROVIDE A BIRTH CERTIFICATE — he is NOT A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN. Donofrio has successfully bypassed the “standing” argument. If you’ve listened to what’s been going on — the lower court tried to give his deposit of money back to him. They tried to get him to accept a refund to file his case. Why? Because they realized it was sound. Another misconception is that the case was denied when going to the SCOTUS on the first round. It wasn’t denied… but rather the court clerk tried to say it was denied in hopes that Donofrio would give up and go away. But Donofrio knew enough about the law to realize that the clerk was pulling some sort of scam and never showed the case to the Judge. It was this mistake that allowed him to refile and choose a Judge of his own choice. Now the case has merit and they’ve ruled to have it reviewed by ALL the Justices. This is big. It’s time to stop dismissing it as silly because of the disappointment from mistakes made by Berg and Martin.

Many have learned from their mistakes and are filing some really great cases. It’s fascinating to follow and it’s exploding on the Internet and I find it ironic that PUMAPAC feels it’s acceptable to ignore what’s going on. There are interested PUMA’s that are following but PUMAPAC as a whole seems to like to use the dismissive attitude that is expected of Obamabots — but not PUMAPAC. What’s up with that?

NewOrleans … question 4 u. If you do not mind me asking … you said in an earlier post that you worked for an active, non-profit serice for 30 years. Was it here in Louisiana? Which one? If you feel comfortable answering … if not, i understand! I worked for a state agency right out of graduate school (which did alot of work with non-profit agent.), so I was curious which one.

Casper Cat 11.22.08 at 9:28 pm
DONE! DWP… Hope you are doing well, great to hear from you…
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Sheesh, silly puma, are you in trouble now… filing false reports… put that on your resume if you ever want to work for Othief.

Tomorrow’s teh BIG Del day! Will be thinking of you…
but, not in too much detail (da bridge).

NewOrleansPuma 11.22.08 at 9:33 pm
#158Dances:
Snowing in Boston area is it? Oh thank you GAWD I am not there!
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Don’t know if it’s snowing… think this might be in preparation for future snows.

I know, tell me about it. Winter is the one season when I don’t mind that So CA doesn;t have “weather”.

Hasn’t snowed in MA yet, NOP, but it’s pretty nippy!

Muroophy
welcome back to Earth.

So, Dances, what sort of shingles? I need to know.

Meanwhile, it is 23 degrees in nyc, according to my lil weather bug on computer. ugh.

Drats, where is Nijma. Gonna have to hunt that one down on her blog.

#172Murphy: Alright, Murphy! Congratulations for it being done…nasty ass event, I would think…oh…in 23 degrees…welcome back off the roof…whereever you land instead!

Found some tents online (ckbproducts.com) at wholesale price – if you buy 6, they are $25.17 – not too bad for something so useful. San Diego is only cold at night but when it gets rainy in winter, it gets cold. I do believe that some don’t want to get into shelters because of the rules and regulations or maybe they just don’t qualify. Whatever it is,
charity should not come with strings, I think.

************* MURPHY ***********

What a woman… roofs in this weather … glad your fingers are thawed so you can type…

How disrespectful all those above are…. and one article even called her Mrs. Clinton throughout the article… It drives me crazy that they will not give this woman the respect she is due by being Senator Clinton from NY… not Mrs. Clinton!!!!

Kat in hat: If you find Nijma, would you ask her why she won’t answer my simple 2 questions at 119?…Ha…just kidding Kat….I know why she won;t, but I will be here when she returns sooner or later and this haunting woman who is NOP will ask her again.

It IS cold here in MA… I have a virus and worked through it the last part of the week, but I am not going outside again until I have to go back to work Monday morning!!! (no concert for me tomorrow night with high winds on top of this frigid air!)

DancesWithPumas, can you be more specific.

(lol)
jus playin

Thought all of you would appreciate this joke:
New Element Discovered
A major research institution has just announced the discovery of the heaviest element yet known to science.

The new element has been named “Governmentium.”

Governmentium has one neutron, 12 assistant neutrons, 75 deputy neutrons, and 224 assistant deputy neutrons, giving it an atomic mass of 311.

These 311 particles are held together by forces called morons, which are surrounded by vast quantities of lepton-like particles called peons.

Since Governmentium has no electrons, it is inert.

However, it can be detected, as it impedes every reaction with which it comes into contact.

A minute amount of Governmentium causes one reaction to take over 4 days to complete, when it would normally take less than a second.

Governmentium has a normal half-life of 4 years; it does not decay, but instead undergoes a reorganization in which a portion of the assistant neutrons and deputy neutron exchange places.

In fact, Governmentium’s mass will actually increase over time, since each reorganization will cause more morons to become neutrons, forming isodopes.

The characteristic of moron-promotion leads some scientists to believe that Governmentium is formed whenever morons reach a certain quantity in concentration.

This hypothetical quantity is called “Critical Morass.”

When catalyzed with money, Governmentium becomes Administratium, an element which radiates just as much energy, since it has half as many peons, but twice as many morons.

NIJMA!!!

(lol) Dang.

kat in your hat 11.22.08 at 9:43 pm
DancesWithPumas, can you be more specific.
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You goof! lol

Murphy …. I know what that COLD in Boston feels like … it is almost damn painful. Remember, I told you that my corp. office was there. The first time I stepped out of that airport (in Boston) and that COLD AIR hit me … I thought to myself, we southern folks do not have a clue what cold it! HA!

#187DeadGirl: Virus? Maybe you need a good ole fashioned Hot Toddy..Shall I bring it to you? (I wish I could!)Get well, DeadGirl…

Hey DWP, YOU are so funny…What a pleasure…So, glad the fire dept did not have to rescue Murphy off of the roof..HA HA..Remember, Murphy DWP offered her home to all of the Pumas with crappy cold weather..And, I offered DWP to come to my home when her home is filled .. So, we will all be ok through this winter..Here, in Riverside a record day of 80 degrees…It is like summer… Murphy, hope all is well..

That’s the big plan, to get the homeless off the street.
lol, I’ve seen the police drive them over the border to the next suburb and dump them off, and the police there just drive them back and put them back over the border again.

#197SouthernGal68: Oh yeah…you got that right…I lived there for a year or so. Loved the city, but the cold ran this little Southern woman home after a while…I finally decided that being close to the water, the cold air did what it also does here when it is cold…right to the bone and damp, but there is no comparison to the two actually because it gets so cold in degrees there.

Does a solar calculator count?

no it calculates.

Nijma,
yes, I know things like that happen. When I referred to police “catching” them, I meant that they ticket them, for loitering or jaywalking or disturbing the peace, etc. It’s to get their information in the system. They could be missing people, or sometimes they figure the only way to get them off the street is to arrest them and get them exposed to social service programs offered by the court for rehabilitation.

188 mzebest

One of the things to add to the list of things to do with the electorial candidates is to make sure they are registered to vote.

One of the electorial candidates here in CA isn’t even registered to vote..

DancesWithPumas, thanks. Yes, you can sell the leftovers to the city. I remember learning that but forgot. That sounds great. A good investment.

For a few years now, we have solar security lights (several) and yard lights.. The security lights are great. You just hang them whereever you want as long as there is sun – even way out there across the yard.

error… I meant to say in post #216 … “There are some rebate programs available but the incentives are not great enough just yet.

HEY WHAT’S THIS WITH ALL THE COMMENTS AND WHAT IS YOUR BASIC PROBLEM ALREADY?
I was out of wine, all right? and the neighborhood grocery was about to close, okay? And now I have got the cork off and I’m having a real hard time with the keyboard becasue I keep accidentally hitting the key that switches to Arabic, so just with the first glass I can see this wine will be a problem. And I don’t like to blog and drink at the same time–the blogging keeps me from drinking seriously.

So let me say that homelessness is a problem that is interrelated with a lot of other stuff, like the urban renewal and mental health, and why not let the people who have to live with it find their own answers? does any one really think a city government is not intimately involved with the people who deal with this stuff personally day in and day out? Why second guess it from the outside without any real information? btw, if you want to come over to the Camel’s Nose any time, feel free, the only thing is if you type the f-word I will edit it, also this time of night a LOT of people from the middle east find it, so we can’t talk about wine, okay?

!!حُلو

#222SouthernGal68: Indeed I do. I also lived in New Hampshire for a year. New England is exquisite filled with beauty and history and oh so many wonderful things…if only I could push it down a little bit farther on the map…!

WBD:
The fox is under the bridge, in arabic:
!!حُلو

We wouldn’t need electric companies anymore. that is why every joe schmoe will never be able to afford them.

Until the American media breaks out of their zombie status and starts scrutinizing BO, they will continue to crucify HC. Listening to the two women journalists on Hardball, the Barack Derange Syndrome continues. “BO is always 2 steps ahead of his opponents.” Hey Jennifer, if you had investigated his illegal donations, caucus fraud, and Acorn fraud, these are the illegitimate reasons BO became the President-Elect.

Until the Fourth Estate is held accountable and stops abusing their power, Hillary will not receive any respect or credit in a BO administration.

#225Nijma: correction…increasingly incoherent comments?

Solar
I’ve seen solar in Katmandu, the water in the little hotel was heated with the solar panels. The optimal time for a shower was 4 PM.
A commune in Wisconsin uses solar, a huge bank of batteries in the basement in parallel, tiny Christmas tree sized lights in the upstairs hallway so you can find your way in the dark. They might also run a computer with it, I’m not sure. I’ve also seen a camping trailer with a solar panel that charges an ordinary car battery, I think this is used to run a tiny refrigerator.

mzebest
I’m planning on that for we=hne this hot water heater bites the dust. Is yours electric or gas?

I’m not incoherent at all, it is you who need to enable Arabic on your computers.

Nijma: To whom are you addressing your comments in #223?

#237 DancesWithPumas 11.22.08 at 10:15 pm

“I’m planning on that for we=hne this hot water heater bites the dust. Is yours electric or gas?”

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Mine is gas because my original tank waterheater operated on gas… so they used the existing lines to install a gas powered tankless. The cost varies depending on the size of your home and the needs it would require. I would have had to pay around $1800 to $2000 to buy a new tank water heater. It cost me $3000 for the proper tankless and installation of a tankless… so I felt the extra $1000 cost was well worth the benefits.

Nijma: Ah, I guess you must be talking to me …right?
Your incohency exists in your English comments. I do not give a rat’s ass about Arabic here or anywhere else. So, Nijma, please answer me now long ago question posted at #119 the two simple questions (in English please, incoherent or not) regarding issues which you have gone on and on about all night with no specificity or documentation other than your I suppose your fantasized innate wisdom on the subject.

There are two extremely reputable brands and I wouldn’t recommend considering any but the two reputable ones. Rinnai is one of those brands and the one I went with… because they also had a great warrantee. I forget the other brand name off hand but would recognize it if someone mentions it. I looked into them at the time I was researching… but that brand was going to cost me more and didn’t have as attractive a warrantee.

taggles1: We shall see.

How does a tankless water heater work?

taggles1 11.22.08 at 10:23 pm
are u folks serious? is this for real?
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I’m not.

Hey DWP..Like I said before when the Pumas start arriving..YOU have a place at my home…Remember, French cooking and etc..Ha!!

#252SouthernGal68: Yes, born and raised in NO, have lived in other places though, and returned for good in 1980. Re Gustav,
first we were leaving then we were not..as the weather guys kept changing the entry..then we would up staying, with a generator and it worked out fine. ..I am glad to say.

TrishfromCanada 11.22.08 at 10:25 pm
How does a tankless water heater work?
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internal heating element and and a series or tubes or a tube coil…
cold water runs through it and the heating element heats the water instantly.

SoutherGal: Oh and New Hamphshire is quite beautiful and cold as well!

Solar panels–the ones I have seen have a small capability, but I think they are fun and they make people think about what they use. The situations I mentioned are either third world or very rustic and are better than what people had before, like flashlights and kerosene lamps. I’m not an engineer, you might try your local university’s extension service if you can find any left that are still being funded. The answers to all previous questions are up there somewhere, so do read the thread again. If you have trouble spelling coherent, you haven’t had enough to drink, so get your rat to pour a glass for you. I need to have my walk now, so good night.

dwp that dam fox is always under the bridge no??
are u sure hes not a troll

DancesWithPumas 11.22.08 at 10:29 pm

Is it very costly? aside from the initial purchase?

DancesWithPumas 11.22.08 at 10:31 pm

wontbackdown 11.22.08 at 10:28 pm
DANCES:
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LOLOLOLOLOL!!!
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Texas! Texas!!! Texas!!!!!! THE STATE OF TEXAS!!!!!!!!!!

WTHWIT ?

Trish…
depends on teh size and gallons per minute…
hold on..
http://www.hometips.com/help/tan1.html

hmmmmmmm new action / resource section…
green home maintenance

#263Nijma: Who is taking care of the Camel’s Nose or for that matter the Camel’s behind as you blog here and not there where you can not talk about but clearly can drink wine? This is becoming a very important item. I urgently seek your response.

NewOrleansPuma
LOL!

Nah, everything is fine.

taggles1

I can state pretty confidently, that no one is serious…

goofsmom 11.22.08 at 10:37 pm
taggles1
I can state pretty confidently, that no one is serious…
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you can’t be serious!

wth is wontbackdown #256 I don’t have a ‘beautiful mind.’ Looks nuts.

Nijma, please answer NewOrleansPuma!

red or white?

#273
The same way I keep track of Pumaland and several dozen others: Google Reader.

thanks for the info mzebest and Dances,

as soon as my eyes can focus again I’ll read the website,

DancesWithPumas 11.22.08 at 10:36 pm

wontbackdown
Slowly and carefully, step away from the FEC spreadsheets…
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LOL!!! YEAH! YOU SAY THAT NOW THAT I LOOK LIKE THIS WHEN I LOOK IN THE MIRROR:

8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O 8O

New Orleans, fellow pumas,

Got to run, enjoyed the conversation! Yall have a great night!

WBD and Trish are on Headclunker’s FEC Complaint Team. They’re sampling all the states for illicit and suspicious campaign donations to Obleagh.
You can tell how much they are enjoying themselves.

TrishfromCanada 11.22.08 at 10:40 pm:

Oh Trish… You too, I’m Sure! WHEW!

I thought the numbers were a killer… until that G-mail-Email Mania kicked into full force! LOL!

wontbackdown 11.22.08 at 10:41 pm

lol that is too funny

good night to you SouthernGal

NewOrleansPuma

I do feel that you are correct in your assumptions. The answer will not be forth comming and any conclusions that were stated, were based on generalizations of information and not true knowledge.

Hey, the answers are right there and as plain as day. What part do yo not understand?

I have been off while people are responding to the Hardball comments. But I just have to post anyway. Chris Matthews and his guests rocked the boat every which way to make sure Obama got in and now they are ADMITTING that they have no clue WHO he is or WHAT he is doing.

That speaks volumes.

I know what he is doing. He is covering his ass. He is doing what his money people, the big backers from the early 1990’s want him to do. He suddenly realized that he really is going to be the president and he has to do something to keep him from failing before he gets into office. He is trying to sort out his Teflon coat while trying to figure out how to deal with real world situations.

It would be a really good idea for each of us to buy a big multi-GB Flash drive and record every single article we can find about Obama’s shifts over time.

History is being rewritten constantly this past year. It doesn’t help that the MSM and Google are scrubbing everything. We need records of what is and has happened during this entire election process. Maybe we cannot ever get Obama’s back records in this lifetime, but we can surely make a record of what is going on now.

mzebest, NOP;
the point made in the Monster article about the leftist belief that a Self-Assembled Committee of Saints can and should adjust human circumstances and nature to bring about Earthly Paradise is crucial. Such a vision and commitment inherently excuses and requires long-term duplicity and scheming and subversion of the existing society. PEOPLE SHOULD BELIEVE WHAT ALINSKY SAYS ABOUT GOALS AND METHODS. It is a classical mistake and weakness to discount the clear, published statements of the more egotistical absolutists about their plans.

See: Hitler, Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Osama bin Laden, Alinsky and Obama.

Could it be that HRC is just more discrete about her Alinsky-program for The Rest Of Us?

murphy 11.22.08 at 9:36 pm

I cant believe I got a sunburn in 23 degree weather. more like a windburn i think.//
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Sunburn is entirely possible. Nothing to do with heat, just UV radiation. the cold might make you less aware of the sun’s strength at the time and actually increase the chances of a burn. Another such example is snowblindness, which is actually sunburned retina from UV reflection off the snow. (Us Canucks know stuff like that. )