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I guess it’ my time to be #1 for once.

sue66 – thank you so much for your kind post @7:16 morning on previous blog page.

jenni – thank you for you giving me the ‘puma of the day award’ a few blogs back.

We all will have a great day in whatever we aspire to accomplish. By the way, I like the nice wintery picture.

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At that annual meeting of world representatives in Switzerland a number of years ago, it was, as far as I know, the first time that it was suggested that Hillary might one day be President of the US. It was suggested as someone was introducing Hillary. I forget the Name of that meeting. Perhaps someone here can enlighten me.

PUMA Achievements

In essence, what PUMA has achieved is to stress the Obama Machine so that more defects are apparent. I was shocked when I saw how much money he had to pour into Florida to get his 3% margin. I saw almost $5 million go to the Fl DNC from his campaign fund and over $7 million from the DNC. I would compile these numbers, but the totals are not in yet. That is just through Oct. 15. Over $12 million (And I think BO had to cut a deal with Governor Christ to bring the ethanol business in here, too)! It takes quite a money machine to move that much money from it’s actual source to it’s destination. And the more they have to move, the more likely they are to make mistakes and become visable. Audit! Audit! And we need to look at the state DNC’s, too.

The American Public cannot claim ignorance about BO’s questionable affilliations and lack of qualifications. Because WE told them. We did not allow them to silence us. They will stay in their denial as long as they can. The stock market has gone down consistantly since election day. BO has appointed the SOS (Same Old $#*%) for his administration. Now, they are saying,”Well, give him a chance, he is not even in office yet.” THE DEFINITION OF INSANITY: Doing the same old thing that did not work before and expecting to get different results.

So, ask your O’bot friends who have children how their kids are going to serve their mandatory civil service. Singing Obama songs? Ask them what happened to universal health care. Ask them if George Soros is going to share some more of his wealth or if they are going to share theirs with him. (Bush already got all mine).

SOS is not an honor, it is a broom and a mop and a maid’s outfit (just MY opinion)

Couple of things to tell OBOTS: winning is not the only benchmark of victory, FIGHTING and not giving in is an achievement greater than victory because it is only by being able to do this that victory is even possible.

That being said, Mr. Prez-elect has already appointed MORE washington insiders than G. Bush, the ecomony has already tanked, and he just committed the troops to 4 more years in IRAQ.

I think Murphy said it best, this chump is only into chump change. FLIP IT BACK ON THEM. I would end with this ditty, “so, have you gotten your mortgage paid off or your car note? Gotten that check for food yet?”

Winning is being a PUMA, nothing else matters.

And Dean can knaw on a turkey neck this year….may his own words get stuck in that craw…

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What jenni said !!!!!!1

NOP – ROCKS !!!!!!!!

Don’t ask , don’t tell – delyed to death
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/11/21/dont-ask-dont-tell-dont-change-it/

#21Murphy: It should AND your grits…because this, this, is about thousands and thousands of jobs for us, the American worker..not just in that industry per se but in the industries that service and retail them..This is about the people right now…not the thieves of the globalized financial community, not the corrupt Congress people in both parties who support that rape of our money to the “World”.
This is about the people and bread. And for that vile disdain, this Congress and this so called President elect, who certainly, should act NOW, recieve from me and I hope from all utter and total disdain, disgust, and rejection.

#12 jenniforhillary – “That being said, Mr. Prez-elect has already appointed MORE washington insiders than G. Bush, the ecomony has already tanked, and he just committed the troops to 4 more years in IRAQ.”
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Hmmm – so where’s the ‘change’???

Perhaps Hillary is weighing how many friends she still has in the Senate. Senator Reid certainly would not be one of them, but I believe there may be many who still desire to see her succeed including probably most of the Republicans who cannot stomach Senator Reid.

#35 NewOrleansPuma – She should tell them all to go to hell, stay in the Senate, and keep fighting the bastards.

Yea that’s true admin (murphy)although they did have Joe the Plumber on and that was interesting the woman(can’t think of her name) who gave the OK to snoop into his records is getting suspended for a month without pay but Joe wants more legal action brought (he is going to sue state of Ohio i don’t blame him).and good idea turn off TV till general hospital … news- bad soap opera’s- good…..

Not much time today, I have all sorts of deadlines, but I have some observations as well.

I am trying to keep track of who is being considered for this or that and who gets the jobs. And I am trying to think back to when these particular people endorsed ‘the one’ and how they wove the web. Hillary was (in my opinion) bribed (for lack of a better word) into campaigning for O by being promised this position. Richardson was obviously already thrown under the bus twice. Once as VP and now for SS. Serves him right, but we know he was just a toilet paper man.

Anyway, I would not be upset with Hillary taking the SS job if Bill would be appointed to the Senate to fill the rest of her term. I dowbt that will happen, but this world is so strange these days that anything is possible.

Speaking of our economic downturn, this from the LA Times:

CHINA ON THE BRINK

“The lack of democracy in communist China is leading to direct action as anxious workers, fired in the wake of the worldwide economic meltdown, are taking to the streets to protest. As John M. Glionna of the Los Angeles Times reports from Beijing, “Chinese economists say that rising wages throughout China have led many laborers to expect better working conditions and residents to demand a more accountable government.” “There is no channel to allow people to express their will. They lack the right to speak, the right to organize and unionize to represent their interest, therefore they can only use an irrational way by demonstrating or rioting to solve problems,” said Hu Xingdou, an economics professor at the Beijing Institute of Technology. So far the Chinese authorities have been wary of crushing the “irrational” protests.”

When we express our right to speak, it falls on deaf ears, anyway!

President Clinton would never take a Senator appointment. Why would he???
He is comfortable and happy in doing his global initiative work. He would be an asset to Hillary’s work as SOS, but I believe she would still be more effective if she stays in the Senate. However, after she weighs all the pro’s and cons, I believe that she will make the right decision for herself, even if we don’t agree with the decision.

This makes me feel so sad, boo-hoo:

“So how’d that $20 million party at the new Atlantis hotel in Dubai go last night? Its fireworks display could be seen from outer space, Kylie Minogue performed, and Nobu Matsuhisa cooked. Samantha Ronson (referred to, by Bloomberg, as Lindsey Lohan’s “DJ friend”) mixed 1980s pop music, and Michael Jordan, Janet Jackson, and Mischa Barton rubbed shoulders with Middle Eastern oil titans. The Atlantis boasts a 1,500 rooms, a dolphin bay, a water park, and, at $42,000 a night, quite possibly the world’s most expensive suite. And yet, despite its excesses, might the party have signaled the end of an era? The state-owned company that paid for half of the party is in need of capital restructuring, according to a Citigroup report. According to Bloomberg, “The ‘Dubai dream’ may be over as lower oil prices will leave smaller fiscal surpluses among its crude- exporting neighbors to invest in the emirate. (From Bloomberg News)

I guess the party’s over, all over.

Murphy:

I read an article that really got me to thinking and I hope I can explain how it applies to the post.

The Article is called “The Grammar of Male Violence”. It was written in 2004.

One of the points in the article (which I now see a huge) is this:

We continue to try and measure the ‘number of female victims’ instead of the number of ‘male perpetrators committing violence against women’.

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Once I “SAW” the magnitude of this (looking from a personal and then a U.S. and global perspective) I thought, HOLY….!

“We, (females subjected to abuse, sexism, misogyny) are constantly having to prove OUR numbers, experiences, affects.

Why aren’t we COUNTING THE NUMBER OF MALE PERPETRATORS?

Why are we not broadcasting the hell out of HOW THEY ABUSE WOMEN?

Why are we putting the FOCUS where the problem lies on THEM AS PERPETRATORS OF ABUSES TOWARD WOMEN instead of us as “victims” of their abuse:

Once again, women not only get the “weaker” label – we get slammed for calling ourselves “victims” of such abuse.

Why do we allow the whispering of “Perpetrator” and the mockery of “victim”?

Let’s count the fucking number of perpetrators of Abuses against women for a change and we won’t have to struggle so much to estimate the number of “victims” – I guarantee!

Let’s call those MALE JOURNALISTS WHAT THE FUCK THEY ARE – PERPETRATORS OF ABUSES AGAINST OF WOMEN!

Are we not simply allowing them get away with a slightly more sophisticated version of those that abuse and violate women in places like Afghanistan?

See what I mean? NOBODY WAS LISTENING TO – OR HEARING MY CRIES WHEN I WAS A CHILD BEING SEXUALLY ABUSED EITHER! Our society is deeply, historically conditioned to muffling its ears when it comes to “victimization of women”!

Let’s start counting the numbers of PERPETRATORS in our society for a change!

TexasTigress 11.21.08 at 10:19 am

Murphy – it is sooooo complicated , and there is more than enough blame to go around .
When it is completely dissected , the fact is that the big 3 do not want to build cars in North America – period . They have done everything they can to set their plants up for failure . I have seen it with my own eyes .
It is so much more profitible for them to build cars in country where they don’t have to pay a living wage , healthcare , follow environmental standards , worker safety , child labor laws , etc.
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I agree. I grew up in the Rio Grande Valley. GM moved makes parts in Mexico on the border in the 80’s. They paid the workers 1.00+ to 2.00 an hour. They don’t have to worry about the EPA. There was a high percentage rate of babies born with open skulls and no brain. Trico windshield wipers, Black & Decker, and Ray Ban are also involved in the polution. The people of Mexico are in need of jobs, but the enviromental waste waste is a hugh problem, but the companies can get away with it. Not to mention these people work work much more than a 8 hr day, 5 days a week.

(((WBD)))))) AMEN !
And our country keeps electing a fucking Congress and State legislators full of men who REFUSE to pass laws that adequately punnish the perpetraitors of crimes against women and children ! Even the f’ing US Supreme Court knocked down a decision by the La. legislature to impose the death penalty for animals who rape children !
This is just ONE of the fights that I hope puma takes on in our future . The harshes penalties possible for crimes against women and children . The current laws are a fucking JOKE !

I don’t think I am getting my point across very well – but I understand it completely! It makes a HUGE difference to my emotional state!

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RANCHO: Say this: I am involved in a project counting the number of Perpetrators of Abuse Against Women in our Society; may I use your full name?

WBD – I know this is a serious topic , but damn it , that was funny ! (#56)

New Orleans:
I’m making your statement my private prowl for today. I am sending your ideas to all the news media and others that I have in my address book. Thank you for your insightful post.

They are NEVER going to point to the markets lack of confidence in the XO administration as the cause for the stock market falling …. Fuchtards .

INDY:

“What’s that, Mr. President? I can’t hear you, must be a bad connection!”

I love that, it gave me my first laugh of the day.

Make a special treat in honor of all Obots attending family functions. Something Obama represents.

Something that looks really nice, but tastes like shit.

#52kumbykat: Correct…now multiply that …and Who was in charge in the 80s..in national government? None other than Scab Ronald Reagan and his scab ultra right moneyied Republican Congress…oh ..I have much more to say about this, but I have to eat breakfast…did not sleep much last night…so I guess I am doing brunch…BBL…Keep it rolling all my PumaDuma wonda monga zumma muma mamas…! I will return..and..sooner than McArthur!

Good morning PUMA’s, been lurking for awhile! Thought you would be interested in this article! I don’t know if you have already read it or not.
Andy Martin calls for “national disunity”

Republican leader Andy Martin says this is a “time for national disunity”

We must become the loyal opposition today, loyal to the Constitution and not to the pretender, the Emperor Obama I

Martin says that a president who won’t release his birth certificate is an illegitimate leader

ANDY MARTIN

Executive Editor

ContrarianCommentary.com

“Factually Correct, Not

Politically Correct”

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:

ANDY MARTIN CALLS FOR “NATIONAL DISUNITY”

LEGACY OF POPULAR HOSTILITY TO BUSH WILL NOT LINGER BEYOND HIS TERM, SAYS MARTIN

HOW CAN WE TRUST A PRESIDENT-ELECT WHO IS AFRAID TO RELEASE HIS BIRTH CERTIFICATE, ANDY ASKS?

“LEGAL OPPOSITION” BEGINS TODAY, CONTINUES IN HONOLULU NOVEMBER 18TH

ANTI-OBAMA AUTHOR BECOMES “LOYAL OPPOSITION,” LOYAL TO THE CONSTITUTION

(CHICAGO)(November 5, 2008) As these notes are finished the winner of the presidential election is Barack Obama. McCain has surrendered.

Senator John McCain spoke graciously, “congratulating” president-elect Obama. But he did not call for “national unity” as the liberal cable TV bobbleheads were demanding.

The sweetness of Obama’s victory will not linger beyond the morning dew. The bitterness Obama will generate in the days ahead will linger for the next four years.

Nine years ago I broadcast an ad that said “George Bush wants to bomb Iraq.” The Bush Brothers, Jeb and George, attacked me. I was the first name on the new president’s enemies list. But I had warned the American people. I knew Bush would be a disaster. I never anticipated just how great a disaster. In 2002 I spoke out and marched against the invasion of Iraq and called it a folly. I was one of the first to report the failures in Baghdad, from Baghdad, where I spent most of 2003.

Today the Bush Dynasty is a shambles, totally defunct. He leaves a legacy of disgrace.

The Bush legacy will be a bitter one, bitter for Republicans because it disrupted and destroyed their party, and bitter for Democrats because their party was misled into electing a Marxist-Leninist who will prove as toxic to Democrats as Bush was to Republicans. I worked in the 89th Congress. I saw President Johnson’s landslide of 1964 reverse itself in 1966. “Change” is coming to America. In 2010. Ultimately, the Bush legacy will not be a lingering one. Bush will be remembered as a decent man who was betrayed by his closest advisers.

The bottom line: I am a Republican, but not a Republican who puts party above national interests, or partisan devotion above the Constitution. I have been a corruption-fighter and reformer since my days at the University of Illinois. I will remain so.

Today I am pleased and proud to be the first name on Barack Obama’s enemies list, and to brand him the “Illegitimate President.”

Senator Obama’s victory is a hollow and illegitimate one.

He won by undermining our democratic institutions and by reintroducing dirty money into presidential campaigns. There can be no accommodation with a president who was elected with hundreds of millions of dollars in clandestine campaign cash.

Today I also become a leader of the loyal opposition that will stand against the policies Senator Obama supported during the campaign. The election may be over. The battle for America is just beginning.

Here is the first draft of our essential, basic truths:

There can be no accommodation with a president who refuses to release his birth certificate and establish his true identity.

I do not congratulate Mr. Obama on his illegitimate victory; I reciprocate his contempt for the American people by being contemptuous of his “victory.” Obama is a pretender to the presidency. Fool us once, Obama, shame on you; fool us twice, shame on us.

If ever there was a time for national disunity, this is that time. Preparations must begin immediately for the inevitable victory in 2010.

There can be no accommodation with a man who claims his victory is “righteous,” and that his opponents are evil. I will not demonize Obama but I will not allow him to demonize his critics either, by cloaking his claims in false piety.

John McCain tried to play by the rules and he got screwed. I congratulate Senator McCain on the final result. I stayed loyal to him to the end. Given the fatal errors he made, he did extremely well and limited the ultimate, long-term injury to the Republican Party.

Now we must defend the Constitution and prevent Obama from undermining our institutions and establishing an electoral dictatorship similar to that of his hero Hugo Chavez in Venezuela.

Sadly, Republicans are better at playing defense than they are at running an offense. That was why they did so well in 1995-2001, and why they have done so poorly since then. While I recognize Obama’s illegitimacy as a political leader, I do not doubt that many of the positions he espoused are popular. Some may even be necessary. But the glow and aftermath of his victory will fade faster than anyone can now imagine.

Obama was elected for one reason: because George Bush undermined America. Bush started an unnecessary war in Iraq, and he pursued domestic policies that lost sight of the needs of ordinary Americans. John McCain paid the price for having flown too close to Bush, a fatal error in any pilot. McCain should have anticipated and avoided that risk.

Barack Obama has given the Republican Party a loud wake-up call. The party has been trapped in the throes of cultural extremism. We must renew and revise our guiding principles and throw open our doors to what will be a steady stream of victims of “Obamaism.” Instead of a pro-life/pro-choice party, we must become an all-American and all-Americans party. We must be everything Obama is not: for a sound defense and a strong economy. Opportunity, not redistribution. And that’s it. Just as Jesus chased the money-changers from the temple, we must chase the right-wing profiteers from the Republican temple. One nation. One Party. No outcasts. All are welcome.

By default, I have also become the “legal opposition.” I will be in court in Honolulu on November 18th seeking a court order to open Barack Obama’s secret birth certificate. What is in the document that Mr. Obama does not want the American people to see? Until his family history is revealed, and until his birth certificate is made public, Obama will be an illegitimate president and a pretender in the White House.

When I warned people four years ago about Barack Obama, no one would listen. Is anyone listening now?

admin 11.21.08 at 10:11 am
Anyone have any advice for Rancho?
How should she deal with Obot, or at least Ofriendly, family and friends when they visit on Thanksgiving?
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Sorry, NEW ORLEANS, it was the post #50 by WONTBACKDOWN. You did however, comment on it in your post #61
“Let’s count the fucking number of perpetrators of Abuses against women for a change and we won’t have to struggle so much to estimate the number of “victims” – I guarantee!

Let’s call those MALE JOURNALISTS WHAT THE FUCK THEY ARE – PERPETRATORS OF ABUSES AGAINST OF WOMEN!

Are we not simply allowing them get away with a slightly more sophisticated version of those that abuse and violate women in places like Afghanistan?

See what I mean? NOBODY WAS LISTENING TO – OR HEARING MY CRIES WHEN I WAS A CHILD BEING SEXUALLY ABUSED EITHER! Our society is deeply, historically conditioned to muffling its ears when it comes to “victimization of women”!

Let’s start counting the numbers of PERPETRATORS in our society for a change!

This was just posted on Countusout. Paulson threatened MARTIAL LAW to get the $700B:

Question: Who was behind the threat of martial law in an effort to strong arm Congress into the “bail out”? Answer: Henry Paulson
Thursday, November 20, 2008 Senator James Inhofe has revealed that Henry Paulson was behind the threats of martial law and a new great depression prior to the passage of the bailout bill, having made such warnings during a conference call on September 19th, around two weeks before the legislation was eventually approved by both the Senate and Congress.

As we reported at the time, on October 2, Democratic Congressman Brad Sherman gave a stunning speech on the House floor during which he decried the fact that, Many of us were told in private conversations that if we voted against this bill on Monday that the sky would fall, the market would drop two or three thousand points the first day, another couple of thousand the second day, and a few members were even told that there would be martial law in America if we voted no.

A few days before, Rep. Michael Burgess also told the House, Mr. Speaker I understand we are under Martial Law as declared by the speaker last night, referring to a temporary suspension of the rules and procedures of Congress by its leaders so that a bill can be passed quickly.

But the origin of the most dire warnings about physical martial law in America, to which Sherman was likely referring, has now been exposed.

Speaking on Tulsa Oklahomas 1170 KFAQ, when asked who was behind threats of martial law and civil unrest if the bailout bill failed, Senator James Inhofe named Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson as the source.

Somebody in D.C. was feeding you guys quite a story prior to the bailout, a story that if we didnt do this we were going to see something on the scale of the depression, there were people talking about martial law being instituted, civil unrest.who was feeding you guys this stuff?, asked host Pat Campbell.

Thats Henry Paulson, responded Inhofe, We had a conference call early on, it was on a Friday I think a week and half before the vote on Oct. 1. So it would have been the middle what was it the 19th of September, we had a conference call. In this conference call and I guess theres no reason for me not to repeat what he said, but he said he painted this picture you just described. He said, This is serious. This is the most serious thing that we faced.

Inhofe said that Paulson told members of Congress the crisis would be far worse than the great depression if Congress didnt authorize the bill to buy out toxic debt, a proposal which he abandoned the day after he got the money, added Inhofe.

Inhofe is referring to the controversy last week when it emerged that the bailout money was not going to buy up toxic debt but instead Paulson, the former CEO of Goldman Sachs, had pulled a bait and switch and ordered the money be injected directly into banks.

Senator Inhofe has slammed the secrecy surrounding the destination of the bailout money, saying that Hank Paulson could have given it to his friends and that the blank check must be cancelled now.

Inhofe is now trying to rally support for a freeze on whats left of the initial $350 billion of bailout money with his roll back the bailout proposal, which will also require an affirmative vote on the part of Congress to approve Treasurys plan for the remaining $350 billion.

I know I am ranting and I’ll stop, now. It woke me up! I’ve been making excuses for it all of my life – in one way or another.

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Murphy:

The article is called:

The Grammar of Male Violence
By Jennie Ruby

I only have it in a PDF. I’ll send it to you.

Sorry, everyone. It just hit me like a ton of bricks – I, too, have been grossly complacent on this issue… ME??? ME??? ME??? …Fear, Fear, Fear.

taggles1 11.21.08 at 11:23 am

Serve them an O Turkey, and be sure to point out that you spent hours looking for the perfect bird. A five pounder with skinny legs and bony wings. They will love it!!!!!

It will not be lost on any obot the thought and time you put into finding the perfect turkey.
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Yes ! Make it a Theme Thanksgiving ! Tell them they can HOPE for a real Turkey , but that isn’t going to CHANGE the fact that they got exactly what they asked for !
Oh , and stuff it with nothing but HOT AIR

DancesWithPumas 11.21.08 at 11:16 am

admin 11.21.08 at 10:11 am
Anyone have any advice for Rancho?
How should she deal with Obot, or at least Ofriendly, family and friends when they visit on Thanksgiving?
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SIGN on MY door :
“Abandon all HOPE ye who enter here !”

yeah , mines wayyyyyyy funnier lol

#80Murphy: You mean to tell me you are not, like Maureen Dowd, the omniscient one? Oh…Thank Gawd,,,as we say here…
one of the reasons I love ya…you fiesty, sassy, smart human you!

scarlet #47 – With your post on Obama levying an energy tax, I guess I’ll have to get a windmill or add solar panels to my humble abode. Or I could do what my grandmother did, heat bricks on the wood stove and shove them under the bed at night. That would go along well with my proposed “victory” garden and cotton plants (to make my clothes). It looks like back to the basics.

Replace the sugar in the pie recipe with salt ! it will look pretty but taste like shit (per tag)

Tell them there is no turkey this thanksgiving because the redistribution of wealth has not found you yet.

Rancho

If you want to be more subtle than what I suggested before, just walk around humming and smiling sweetly to yourself. They’ll catch on whether they want to or not. Of course, If someone asks you why you’re looking so pleased, then you can answer them without being the one to bring it up.

If they brought tupperware to take home leftovers , collect all of the containers and then when they want thier stuff , thank them for their donations but explain that “Due to unforseen circumstances , you will not be able to provide them with the goodies you had promised “

#78MaryPuma: That billard ball headed sob!

Between Taggles and Texas….you, Rancho, will never have to cook a Thanksgiving Dinner again!

Oh I am sooooo having the kids make that sign (#84)
I have a family member who WORKS for XO !!!. ugh – he will find it humorous though

Make a life size cut out of Hillary Clinton so all your obamaniacal guests can have their picture taken with the real winner of the 2008 primaries.

Nobody is THAT bad off if they can still go to the store and BUY a Thanksgiving turkey instead of having to go shoot one.
What IS wrong with this country? Shouldn’t we, maybe, plug the damn hole before we bail the boat out AGAIN? Or are we that stupid.
And this morning I read that Bush promises that workers will not lose their unemployment benefits over the holidays.
I wish he had been MY president those times, years ago, when my 8 or 10 weeks unemployment ran out and after that it was just ‘tough shit’ when I was raising 23 kids!
And I sure as HELL wasn’t making $80 fucking dollars an hour to begin with. If I HAD been, I wouldn’t have NEEDED unemployment.
The utter greed, excesses, and lack of gratitude in this country makes me gag. It’s not the frickin chickens, it’s the KARMA coming home to roost!!!

#34 So instead of McSame we get O’Same .

#68~~~LMAO~~ I love it!!! hahahahaha

During the Thanksgiving Day Prayer, ask the Dear Lord to forgive all those who voted for O, for they know not what they have done.

mountainsong 11.21.08 at 11:49 am

* 3 kids

#116mountainsong: I figured that number might come down a little! Where ya at, Mountainsong?

GoPumaGo #87 – What you and the others wrote is very true.

I once was physically abused, but only for a short while because I had love and respect for myself. That love and respect came because the men in my family loved and respected the women in our family. And a woman’s opinion was respected by those men.

Unfortunately, the men and women in my family had died, when I was being abused. But I didn’t back down, even though at the time I was between a rock and a hard place. The abuse only lasted a few months until I could plan my exit, I had children to consider. But the more he abused me, the stronger willed I became. In the end, he paid for it monetarily and otherwise. We had been married for many years without him ever abusing me, then he started cheating on me. Today he has many ailments and is in constant pain. There truly is a God.

At the time, I had no one to turn to but God. And He was always there for me. After I got my life back on track, I supported Homes for Abused Women and their children. I still try to support them spirtually when I can.

Naturally, anyone in this situation should go to the police or someone of authority if their being abused. At that time, I couldn’t. But I was lucky everything turned out fine.

No one should tolerate being abused, because you are worth being respected and loved. I have a daughter who unfortunately witnessed some of the abuse, but I brought her up to love and respect herself. She says respect is the first quality she looks for when she meets a man she’s attracted to. And she told me recently, she doesn’t have to have a man on her arm, to be happy with herself.

Sorry if I brought up a “downer” but there are mostly women on this blog and maybe this will help someone feel better about themselves if they have doubts.

119Mountainsong: Some of us still know what that means…
Sarah has a lot of Republican women who can do that for her.

Rancho I would take these talking points listed below,starting with Indy and then bring up Go Puma Go point about the SCOTUS.

And as far as our future agenda for Puma perhaps our fearless Murphy can give you some talking points

And then I would close the discussion by stating that this is a day for Thanksgiving and I am thankful you are all my intellectual and loving friends.
That should put an end to the discussion if that is your goal.

#33 indy 11.21.08 at 10:12 am
Rancho – When your O supporting guests invariably start talking and gloating about O, matter-of-factly ask them:
“On which of O’s accomplishments, did you base your vote for him?
I’ve asked O supporters on many blog sites that question and I’m still waiting for an answer.
Here’s another good one, I saved it from someone’s post here:
Name ONE national office candidate EVER who has sealed and refused and blocked access to ALL documentation of his/her life and career, from birth through residence through school through university through employment and medical through political career — prior to Barack Obama. Waiting…..
#15GoPumaGo 11.21.08 at 10:12 am
It just now hit me that we have a project to do now.
If SCOTUS declares Obama as not a Natural Born Citizen then we should be organized to petition the Electoral College members. Each and everyone of them to vote for Hillary. There will be almost no time between SCOTUS declaring Obama not eligible and the Dec 15 meeting of EC to actually vote.

Don’t it want to make us revive that Dixie Chicks song “Goodbye Earl’ when we think about this abusive atmosphere that has enveloped our land?

#125Mountainsong: Oh Mountainsong..I know you are in Washington State…you will have to pardon me..I thouhgt you knew, because I have used that expression a while here, that when a New Orleanian says…”Where ya at? ..It means in our New Orleans tribal language and culture…How are you?
How’s things? Good to see ya? What’s going on?…Tell me what’s up?…Sorry!!

NewOrleansPuma 11.21.08 at 12:15 pm

Oh!!! LOL Well, I’m just peachy-keen. Can’tcha tell? lol

My mother’s rule applies wherever I am. “Politics and religion are not discussed at my table. It leaves a sour taste in my mouth and it’s bad for the digestion”.

130Mountainsong: Absolutely! No doubt about it!

#131: Naw..I think it is playing World Monopoly with play money!

LONG LIVE THE DIXIE CHICKS!

So – let me get this right.

If Hillary accepts SOS – there is a good chance she will be out of a job in 4 years – 8 years max. Where could she go next?

If she stays in the Senate – there is a good chance she will be able to accomplish things for a very long time.

NewOrleansPuma 11.21.08 at 12:26 pm

Well, it bothers me when I see someone like that who still hasn’t found their bottom.
I told her that when ya only vote the top line, that’s all ya get back.
Like I said last night,it was a no-brainer that AA’s would,generally, vote for BO. But the poop is going to hit the fan when they realize he doesn’t give a damn about them and just wanted their vote. Then they will prolly blame him for being half-white.

“Our greatest freedom…is to discipline ourselves.”
Bruce Lee

mountainsong 11.21.08 at 12:41 pm

murphy 11.21.08 at 12:39 pm
Maybe it has something to do with ’survival of the fitest’.
Either that, or misogyny.
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Or Shit rolls downhill

Rancho, Somebody mentioned Thanksgiving turkey, which made me think of this:

“Sorry folks, no turkey this year, the only turkey I could find is too busy putting together his new administration!”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0EDX07Kgj0

I think it’s time to go dance again this weekend.

good morning PUMAS:

I just got this early Thanksgiving card in my email box and thought I’d share it for those you who might like a little song and laughter at the same time.

bbl…I’m trying to write my blog

okay, I think writing my blog is going to take longer than I thought; here is the link for #150

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hd4h5xKLGuE&feature=related

NewOrleansPuma 11.21.08 at 12:12 pm
DANCES, DANCES; Where are you? Please don’t tell me you are working…as Mr. Bill would say…OH..NOOOOOOOOO… Do you know who Mr Bill is?
———————
Okay, I won’t tell you then. And, yes, I know who mr. Bill is.
What’s up?

Murphy & Texas: Yes I’m here! Working on Dances’ brilliantly performed concerto from last evening – in E major/diminished

wontbackdown
would you mind sending your email address to actioncenter@pumapac.org again, please?
It seems to be rejecting. Thanks.

Mountainsong – What on earth is temmsarah, I don’t think I’ve run into that group in my 3:00 am I can’t sleep runs. Puma is where we belong anyway because there is so mush to do here. I really would like to know what independent study Ferraro is looking at. Studying the way media portrayed women in this election is a good start.

Off general topic but re: Thanksgiving
does anybody have a recipe for oatmeal cookies using molasses
email: aroofrabit@yahoo.ca if you do, thanks

“666
tle mnni ophu”

If anyone wants to know what this means…
just let me know…
but, it will cost you a little somethin’

sue66

How is Fritzy?

DancesWithPumas 11.21.08 at 1:11 pm:

Really, Ok. I’ve gotten 3 emails on the action.

DancesWithPumas 11.21.08 at 1:20 pm

“666
tle mnni ophu”

If anyone wants to know what this means…
just let me know…
but, it will cost you a little somethin’
——————-

PUMAS!!! RUN TO THE AIRPORT! CATCH THE NEXT FLIGHT! DON”T WORRY ABOUT THE DESTINATION… EXCEPT, AVOID CALIFORNIA AT ALL COSTS!!!

That’s what I was going over when I saw the S.T.F.U. Posts!

I may have a question in a little bit – you said you would “help me”

goofsmom 11.21.08 at 1:27 pm:

“Whiley” doesn’t quite do it for me mom, she works for the fbi, cia, ss – doesn’t she?

DancesWithPumas:

PUMAS!!! LISTEN TO DANCES!!! WOW! DOES SHE HAVE A DEAL FOR YOU!!!

DancesWithPumas 11.21.08 at 1:20 pm

“666
tle mnni ophu”

If anyone wants to know what this means…
just let me know…
but, it will cost you a little somethin’
______________________________________________
STFU ! I lurked until about 12 am waiting for you to post to WBD what the hell that meant !!!! lol
I had forgotten about it – ohhh you ….

mountainsong 11.21.08 at 1:34 pm:

Would you please ask Dances to tell me what “tle mnni ophu” means?

I’m stuck in Pumatanamo Bay.

wontbackdown 11.21.08 at 1:37 pm
Do you still need my email?
———-
No, all is well. Thanks.

BBL.

Rancho,

How about pick up Thanksgiviing groceries, have everyone bring a few cans of veggies or something. When everyone gets there have them pack everything up, and head out to the local mission to serve meals. You are doing EXACTLY what O wants, spreading the wealth AND giving them an idea what the national service act will be like. BUT best of all you will be helping others. Don’t tell them what is up til they are there. Just ask them to wear comfortable shoes!

sue66:
I received this from Team Sarah this morning.

A message to all members of Team Sarah

Such hypocrites!

Two nights ago, David Letterman, in interviewing Katie Couric, described Gov. Palin as “the first vice presidential candidate that I found myself being aroused about.”

It is ghastly that this kind of discourteous, indecent talk should pass for conversational fodder — even on late night TV.

This violates CBS’s own “Program Practices” specifically states that: “The Program Practices editors review material for excessive or gratuitous violence, sexuality, nudity and inappropriate language. They ensure that character portrayals are sensitive to current ethnic, religious, sexual and other significant social concerns.” http://www.cbspressexpress.com/div.php/cbs_network/page/program_practices

A violation? What do *you* think?

Well, don’t just think it! Make your voice heard.

Email the Federal Communications Commission!

Email fccinfo@fcc.gov, tell them your name, where you are from, and EXACTLY how you feel about Letterman taking indecent liberties with a dignified lady, mom, and governor on his show!

– Emily
teamsarah08@gmail.com

Visit Team Sarah at: http://www.teamsarah.org

bye.

diva2 11.21.08 at 1:43 pm

Rancho,

How about pick up Thanksgiviing groceries, have everyone bring a few cans of veggies or something. When everyone gets there have them pack everything up, and head out to the local mission to serve meals. You are doing EXACTLY what O wants, spreading the wealth AND giving them an idea what the national service act will be like. BUT best of all you will be helping others. Don’t tell them what is up til they are there. Just ask them to wear comfortable shoes!
+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + +

Or give the dinner to some drunk on the street.

Around Cambridge Mass there are tons of people at the red lights asking for food as the cars stop for the light. actually looking for money for food.

or find a detox and bring them dinner. haha.

Or a prison. you can donate the dinner to prisoners.

Old peoples homes might use it. senior citizen places.

what else. homeless shelters would be good.

I heard today they are forming foreclosure support groups. Lot of people really hurting out there and it is cold tonight. God help everyone. I just want to love them all.

LOVE IS GIVING EXPECTING NOTHING IN RETURN.

TRUE LOVE IS DIFFICULT. THE EGO WANTS SOMETHING IN RETURN.