Stop Blaming the Women, dang nabbit!

am i the first?

Thanks Murphy still here and prowling.

Dear Murphy,
I have a friend on youtube that had a terrible encounter with William Ayers when she was in college in Chicago.She has given me permission to share it with all my fellow Pumas,but I really do worry about her safty when I do.
Can I e-mail it to you first,and see what you think?

Hey Pumas if you get too depressed watch this!

http://cdn1.ustream.tv/swf/4/viewer.45.swf?cid=317016

Gun Owners not Welcome on Obama’s White House Team

Illinois State Rifle Association

SPRINGFIELD, Ill., Nov. 13 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ — The following was released today by the Illinois State Rifle Association (ISRA):

In yet another example of hostility towards lawful firearm owners, the Obama transition team is weeding out applicants for White House positions who own firearms themselves, or who come from firearm-owning families.

Evidence of the Obama team’s distaste for firearm owners may be found as Question 59 of a 63 item questionnaire administered by Obama staffers to all potential applicants
positions in the Obama White House. The question asks for sensitive information about firearms owned by the applicant and his/her family.

“Question 59 provides clear insight into how Obama and his people perceive firearm owners,” said ISRA Executive Director Richard Pearson. The questionnaire poses a number of questions asking the applicant to reveal any unethical activities, or embarrassing Internet chats, then wraps up by asking if anyone in the applicant’s family owns a firearm. Obviously, Obama feels that owning a firearm is akin to talking dirty in Internet chat rooms. But that should come as no surprise as, while an Illinois State Senator, Obama voted for SB1195 – a provision of which called for gun owners to be registered in the same manner as sex offenders.”

“Once again, we have to ask ourselves just what candidate Obama was talking about when he said he has ‘respect’ for the 2nd Amendment,” commented Pearson. “If this latest assault on gun owners is considered a gesture of respect, then either Obama or myself is very confused.”

A copy of the questionnaire may be found at http://www.isra-pvf.com/obamaquestionnaire.pdf

The ISRA is the state’s leading advocate of safe, lawful and responsible firearms ownership. Founded in 1903, the ISRA has represented the interests of millions of law-abiding Illinois firearm owners.

WEB SITE: http://www.isra.org
SOURCE Illinois State Rifle Association

http://www.sunherald.com/prnewswire/story/954052.html

PUMA’S: Brought this from downstairs, no one caught it:

__Senator CLINTONL: has no intention of joining Obama: blaming BILL to save face: (THE DNC)—————-

Her response to Letter we sent on one of our prowls the last couple of days:—read and back to business with this thread:
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Thank you for your views on the Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008. I appreciate your concern and I welcome the opportunity to respond.

The market turmoil over the past month has exacted a heavy toll on Wall Street and unfortunately, now the crisis has spread to Main Street. What began as a wave of mortgage defaults and foreclosures limited to risky subprime mortgages quickly unraveled into a national housing crisis, driven deeper by complex securities designed to hide unacceptable risks and irresponsible investments. We soon learned that the losses from those mortgages created a ripple effect engulfing not only the irresponsible mortgage lenders and the banks that wrote their loans, but also our largest financial institutions and nearly every segment of our financial sector.

The normal credit markets ceased to function with banks unwilling to lend to each other and soon ordinary businesses and consumers were unable to secure the lines of credit they need and rely upon to survive. The lack of standard market functioning and the cascading collapse of financial institutions have had a devastating impact on all Americans. Our economy lost 159,000 jobs this past month alone, and we are on the cusp of a recession that threatens the entire nation with manufacturing, auto sales, retail sales, and economic growth all on the decline. America is currently undergoing a severe threat to our nation’s economic security. Businesses are finding it hard to receive credit, limiting transactions and preventing salary disbursal. Pension plans and other retirement accounts have lost a great deal of value due to falling investor confidence and market manipulation. Several of our nation’s largest banking institutions have failed or were forced to reorganize to survive. Hardworking Americans are unable to keep up with their mortgage payments and face the threat of losing their homes.

Swift action was needed, but it was clear the Treasury Department’s original plan was a blank check to the banks that enabled this crisis. I worked with my colleagues and I am pleased that Congress mandated additional oversight controls and installed accountability measures so that the Treasury Department’s rescue program is run effectively and responsibly. The bipartisan legislation allows for a variety of options to address the crisis, including expanding the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp (FDIC) guarantee on bank deposits, an option for capital injections to healthy but vulnerable banks that serve our communities, and many important tax breaks for struggling homeowners. The legislation also includes tax provisions I supported which enhance energy research and development, to end our dependence on foreign oil, and adjustments to help middle class families with home heating bills and protect them from the alternative minimum tax (AMT). As a result, the Federal Reserve has begun paying interest on commercial bank reserves and will extend billions of dollars in its loan program to impacted banks.

As Senator from New York, I have seen thousands of my constituents lose their jobs. I believe that enacting these measures was a difficult but necessary decision to prevent tens of thousands more from losing their livelihoods, but it is also clear that we must do more to help the middle class, create more jobs, and regain economic stability. I have proposed several initiatives to bolster the economy and help families navigate these difficult times. I believe establishing a Home Owners Mortgage Enterprise (HOME), allowing home owners and mortgage companies to renegotiate the terms of home mortgages, will help families keep their homes through affordable payments. A similar program helped prevent widespread home loss during the Great Depression, and we must take action now to keep families in their homes and prevent the housing crisis from deepening this economic downturn.

We must also develop a broad strategy to stem job losses and support small business owners as the market adjusts in the coming months. I recently called on the Department of Labor to approve a grant allowing New York State to study the impact of the ongoing economic crisis on working families. These steps will be an important beginning to our nation’s difficult recovery process, and I pledge to continue representing the workers and families of New York and America. Moreover, I have called on the President and the Treasury Secretary to create a $250 billion “Emergency Stabilization Fund” to make emergency loans and establish temporary lines of credit for small businesses, to allow schools and universities to have short term access to funding to reduce the pressure on tuition, to increase direct loans to students as private lending has dried up, and to help stabilize our state and local governments, enabling them to provide essential services while reducing the pressure to increase property taxes. Finally we must pursue long term market reforms to curb the excessive risk, rampant speculation and irresponsible lending and borrowing that began this crisis.

Again, thank you for your letter regarding our economic challenges ahead. I hope you will share your thoughts and concerns with me as we continue to address this important issue before the United States Senate. For regular updates, please check my website at http://clinton.senate.gov.

Sincerely,

Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton

kepp=keep

It’s never too late as far as I’m concerned. Barry is a fraud and we all know it.

http://www.nbcaugusta.com/news/elections/presheadlines/34587804.html

SACRAMENTO, Calif.- A former opponent of Barack Obama’s has come back to haunt him over questions regarding Obama’s citizenship.

According to a press release from the American Independent Party, former presidential candidate Alan Keyes and other members of the party have filed suit in California Superior Court in Sacramento to stop the state from giving its electoral votes to President-elect Barack Obama until documentary evidence is provided to prove Obama is indeed a natural born citizen of the United States.

Some conservatives have questioned Obama’s citizenship in recent months. Obama says he was born in Hawaii in 1961.

Keyes also ran against Obama as a Republican for the U.S. Senate seat in Illinois in 2004. Obama won that election to serve his first and only term in the U.S. Senate.

Teamsters union That’s alot of $$, but didn’t see a date!!

http://www.maplight.org/map/us/interest/LT300/view/all

Oh boy. . .

Obama’s got a secret hottie!

http://www.tinyurl.com/5c8s3j

gypsy rebel 11.18.08 at 12:08 pm
Teamsters’ Massive Election Push For Change Helped Obama To Victory
by Jim Kouri $88 million to Obama!!
http://www.postchronicle.com/commentary/article_212184738.shtml

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Wow! They certainly were well-organized.

Is this their payback?

http://pumapac.org/forums/breaking-news/ post 104

Thanks PUMAs for helping me out on that other blog. Heneri you did a great job!

Back to business:

This AP story I saw on the Daily Beast gives a pat on the back for Obama for Bush calling Gaddafi today. Read the AP’s spin for Obama:

It looks like President Bush has taken a page from his successor’s playbook. The AP reports that Bush called Libya’s Moammar Gaddafi yesterday—the first time an American president has spoken with the African leader. Bush congratulated Gaddafi on completing an agreement to pay $1.5 billion into a fund that will pay claims for the 1988 Pan Am 103 bombing over Scotland and the 1986 bombing of a German disco. According to the AP, “The payment cleared the last hurdle in restoration of full normalization of diplomatic relations between the United States and Libya.”

Seems at times we are all on our own pages …so this is mine.

I have tried to research WHO OFFICIALLY VETS THE PRESIDENT ELECT. Can’t seem to find anything substantial. Seems to me that once the candidate is (s)elected, they are officially applying for the position and there should be governmental agencies in place to do a full vetting and investigation, especially for the highest offfice in the country.
Anyone know the answer to this????

It seems to me, an official coordinated vetting process can’t be left up to the media or opposing campaign.

Murphy did noy recieve the E-Mail

Great intro Murphy. Was thinking that perhaps a little puma introspection might be in order, else we run the risk of putting down other women without even thinking about it. The other day i was concerned that Howard Dean’s wife was being discussed on the thread and not in a complimentary way (mousey and worse). Just a thought. If we cannot support other women then what do we have left? Mrs Dean certainly seems to shy away from the spotlight ….

zephyr I’m leaving the house right now, but…..

I was told to call TX’s Secretary of State and talk to the Director.

The Director of each state is supposed to “vet” a candidate to ensure his/her eligibility.

I was also told to ask the Director what they used to “vet” That One.

Now, it begins in Illinois – Depending on what they used, each state may have just gone along with what was filed in Illinois.

So technically, a candidate may not have been vetted with “proof in hand”, but according to Illinois!!

I was told to insist on knowing how a candidate was declared eligible to run in Texas.

Don’t know if this helps – it is all I know.

I had gone through alot of D.C. phone numbers; and not sure who told me where to go. I still have the telephone numbers “somehwere.”

Question. Why does everyone refer to President Elect Obama when he has not been elected yet?

RememberNovember
I participated in the Mrs. Dean conversation, and was stung by the “mousey” description, but didn’t I take it on. Last week someone made a sexist comment and was called on it… a week later she’s still complaining about being “attacked”.
Some battles, with some people, you just have to pass on… not worth wasting the oxygen.
Take the best, ignore the rest, and focus on the issues and people where the effort makes it worth your while for the greater good.

******* ATTENTION ZEPHYR *** CHECK THIS OUT

I am wrong! FOUND THIS (CAFFINE QUEENS) PUMA SITE

TITLE … Elected officials do NOT go through background checks prior to taking office.

HIT that title under Search and you will find the article

RememberNovember
I participated in the Mrs. Dean conversation, and was stung by the “mousey” description, but didn’t I take it on.
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Good advice Dances but for what it is worth I just thought it was worth a comment – if only to encourage us all to think twice before choosing the words we use to describe other women.

BTW I followed the link to rumproast (if that’s the best they can do!) and it reminded me to ask what happened to the documentary that we were all so excited about? I must have missed that discussion.

Anna Belle

Yes Murphy is amazingly fearless – her courage blows me away..

Hillary as SOS

My take onb it is that nobo has no intention, or ever did of making her SOS. He is making it look like it for whatever reason, her support in the Senate and those she can rally? Not sure. But he has know all along that Bill wasn’t going to give up all of his financial dealings and that will be his excuse to not give the job to Hillary. I think Bill would be nuts to give them ANY info., financially or what he has done since his presidency. As every thing else, I think this was a farce from the beginning. Hillary would be an awesome SOS, but much better POTUS, but no way, now how, with him or the bots!!! IMOP

Funny – I always seem to arrive on the blog when everyone else is changing shifts or having lunch or going to bed! I sometimes wonder if my posting gums up the works – a person could get a complex ya knows!!!

JESUS CHRIST!!! I just went back and read the story of the stoning of the 13 yr old girl.Burning with rage as if on fire!!! Is THIS what we should expect when Sharia is brought to America? I’d rather go down shooting.

mountainsong 11.18.08 at 1:26 pm

I must drag myself out of bed EARLIER each day. Then it wouldn’t be such a task to catch up reading everything from when I went to bed until now on the blog. But, had I not, I would have missed alohapuma’s eloquent tribute to her Mother.

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Just went back to find “Mary Ellen’s Hands” – so beautiful and now I have to go cry quietly on my own..too fragile..have a good day pumas

lol

It looks like trouble’s brewing all over the world in anticipation of Obama. First, Russia, now this:

The Washington Post today buries an interesting report from Afghanistan: President Hamid Karzai has said he would guarantee the security of Taliban chief Mohammad Omar if he decides to enter talks. This move is likely to rankle the international community, which will want Omar handed over to the United States, but Karzai was defiant. “If I say I want protection for Mullah Omar, the international community has two choices: Remove me or leave,” he said. The United States has recently considered negotiations with moderate Taliban leaders, but Omar is in not a moderate. He refused to hand over Osama Bin Laden after September 11, and the U.S. has offered a multimillion dollar reward for his capture. He is believed to be in Pakistan. (From the Daily Beast)

I think with Obama coming in, these countries figure they can have their way with the US.

As much as I don’t want Hillary to accept the Obama’s offer, I feel that our country needs a brilliant strategizer and negotiator such as Hillary as SOS.

on phone with Mama…
She sends her love!!

Jenni: I sorry to read that the radio show did not go well…i read all the comments that murphy posted. It will be better next time, just make some modifications. O’Reilly i bet when he was a young man made lots of mistakes one way or ther other now it is old hat because he has been doing it for a long time.

I am going to be taking care of fritzy starting thursday. Victory says no donations yet today http://www.fritzyfund.org. I will have to write a bounced check to try and stall them and then they will get mad at me but I have to get the surgery done. Oh well, that’s life..

Chin up Jenny, it will pass and things will better next time.

indy 11.18.08 at 1:53 pm
I think with Obama coming in, these countries figure they can have their way with the US.
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My sister and her husband just came back from Europe traveling. They were suprized at the conversations people were having over there. Laughing at the USA for voting in Obama. All happy and hoping BO would get elected, not for ‘one world’ BUT so see our superpower days over. They couldnt believe how dumb we were. She said she heard it over and over this past 10days. She even had other Americans traveling telling her they were hearing the same things. Some being called ‘stupid Americans’ and getting laughed at.

Phew! This post has me swinging from a high and crashing down to a low. That link to the
Gulabi Gang was inspirational- those women have got the right idea……and then to the picture of the girl being buried- was that the recent stoning?- leaves me angry and nauseous and horrified at what some humans can do to each other.

Complacency can’t survive such a post. Keep up the fight!

Talk about international problems! Wasn’t BO the one who said he was going to make U.S. relations better with other countries??? LOL
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/barackobama/3473953/Poland-denies-Barack-Obama-cannibal-joke.html
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In an episode that could potentially strain relations between Warsaw and Washington, Radek Sikorski, an Oxford-educated politician who has lived in the US, was reported to have made the jibe by an opposition politician, Ryszard Czarnecki.

Writing in his blog, Mr Czarnecki, an MEP, quoted the foreign minister as saying: “Have you heard that Obama may have a Polish connection? His grandfather ate a Polish missionary.”

A spokesman for the Polish foreign office conceded that Mr Sikorski had made the controversial comment, but denied that the foreign minister had intended to insult Mr Obama, whose father was Kenyan.

“Mr Sikorski did not tell a racist joke,” said Piotr Paszkowski, the spokesman. “He was only giving an example of the unpalatable and racist ‘jokes’ that surround President Elect Obama.”

Donald Tusk, the Polish prime minister, has made no comment on the affair. It appears that Mr Sikorski’s position is not under threat despite calls from opposition politicians for an investigation to deter if the foreign minister broke anti-racism laws.

The derogatory comment about Mr Obama’s family may also have become common staple in Polish political circles. Wojciech Olejniczak, the leader of Poland’s main Left-wing party, the SLD, alleged that he first heard it from Jaroslaw Kaczynski, a Right-wing former prime minister and twin brother of the Polish president, Lech Kaczynski.

Obama voted that he agreed that if an abortion produced a live baby that baby was given no assistance to stay alive, and it was left to die. how inhuman is that?

Rhodes had a history of fauxgressive misogyny even before this election cycle, all I can do in regards to her is view her like I do Maureen Dowd, just ignore her and hope some day she’ll finally wake up. I’m at that point with an troll on my blog. I’ve banned her after her latest asshat trolling. Maybe she’ll wake up some day but I’m not holding my breath. I have more hope of awakening in the ones that drank the koolaide late in the game like Robin Morgan and Gloria Steinem.

It’s hard not to hit back when they keep on doing so. But I kept fairly calm in my response to the one who stalks my blog. I scanned over the ugly smears and misogynist attacks that was in her comment as I rolled my eyes. Then I deleted the troll spam, but let stand her comments on a minithread where she contradicted herself on what she calls feminism, that played a part in the deleted comment, she raged against Palin and said because Palin was against abortion rights she was antifeminist, that “you can’t be a feminist if you are antiabortion” then spouted the same old fauxgressive talking points against Palin. Then attacked me saying I couldn’t be a feminist if I believed a person that is antiabortion is a feminist, and then made lying personal attacks on me. Never mind I voted Green party because I was voting for the party and candidate that strongly supports all feminist tennets and also absolutely supports abortion rights, because I do support that. She voted for two male candidates that are misogynists and are weak, at best, on abortion rights. She voted for two male candidates that are weak, at best on GLBT rights, she voted for two male candidates that are, at best, weak on labor union support, etc… I voted for a party and two women that are strong on those issues. In the Dem primary I voted for the woman who was and is strong on those issues, and also on children’s rights, and everything that is the core of the liberal wing of the Dem party. I stopped going to her blog when she was repeating the fauxgressive smears about Hillary back last March, she then started trolling my blog with the same fauxgressive smears and misogyny againist Hillary. I deleted her troll spam and “defriended” her. Distancing definitely helps, you couldn’t pay me to look at her blog. I haven’t since March. I’ve treated Air America, MSNBC, etc… the same way. Not having their misogyny “in my face” 24/7 has done a world of good about healing myself. Thankfully the one uber Obama backer at work has moved onto her next thing. She was never as ugly as the people online, but did repeat the sexist talking points about Palin a few times. Not the really nasty garbage, just the Palin is “stupid” stuff. I just told her I was voting Green party becuase that is the party of my values. She’s stopped going on about how wonderful Obama is, she’s gone back to talking about her hobbies, things at work are pretty much back to the way it usually is. Online it’s still a battleground just like in the news media. I’m trying to move away from that, and work on the constructive stuff with my newer, much broader spectrum of feminist friends. It’s going to be a while longer, but gradually I’m getting there.

Pumas,
If these women can accomplish THIS with so little, then what excuse do the women of america have?
Are you your brothers’ (sisters”) keeper??
Anyone remember “what you do to the least of these you do to me also??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opZz87S2v6M