This a tale of two realities. In Washington D.C. last night Dr. Lynette Long and three of her middle class, middle aged women friends were harrassed and assaulted at a popular restaurant, including being called “cunts” and dragged by the hair and punched in the face. The incident itself is bad enough. What makes it really despicable is the response of the restaurant management and the police. And in Chicago last week ,a 14 year old girl was told by classmates she should be “crucifixed” and “burned” for wearing a McCain shirt to school.
That’s one reality. A reality that is becoming ever more real for many of us who have been watching Swamp Misogyny advance: from the BOIZ blogs, to the network news, to the voting booth, and now, to the streets. Lynette Long says, “there’s something in the air — I can feel it.”
She’s right.
But let’s not let ourselves drown in despair. There is another reality today as well. A kinder, braver, and more loving reality. This better, more truly American reality was manifest in dozens of cities in all 50 states all afternoon and in to the evening. Many are probably still rallying and organizing now. Here’s to all the lesbian, gay, transgendered, and straight people who took to the streets today in defense of our Constitutional rights and our reputation as a freedom-loving country. (pictures by danceswithpumas)
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NewOrleansPuma 11.15.08 at 9:44 pm
#136from former thread Lucky Seven: If it is not, then someone is discredited and permanently because it was written as if it were….a new event.
Casper Cat 11.15.08 at 9:49 pm
IndyBoomer #113 if you are still here please see my previous post #138 on the previous blog…hope that helps…Take Care, You are in our thoughts
murphy 11.15.08 at 9:50 pm
Mary Puma — take care. the photos of the LA fires are SCARY.
Rabblerouser 11.15.08 at 9:50 pm
This was in San Diego? Boy, the weather really is great there…it rained all day today, here and it’s still raining…
DancesWithPumas 11.15.08 at 9:51 pm
lol see the woman in the uppermost photo? Blonde, bottom center of the photo. She’s an old friend. We lost touch years ago, until I saw her through the viewfinder of my camera!! What a surprise!! I think that’s the reason she’s looking right at the camera… waiting for the surprise to register with me. That was a fun moment.
DancesWithPumas 11.15.08 at 9:53 pm
Rabblerouser 11.15.08 at 9:50 pm
This was in San Diego? Boy, the weather really is great there…it rained all day today, here and it’s still raining…
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It was like 85 degrees here. I had to come home earlier than I had planned.
TrishfromCanada 11.15.08 at 9:53 pm
Luckyseven 11.15.08 at 9:34 pm from downstairs
I saw your post and wanted to respond about the story of the child wearing the t-shirt and being told she should be crucified. I was watching the news one night possibly in early July and saw the interview with the girl and her Mom over the t-shirt. I remember it because that kid had spunk.
GoPumaGo 11.15.08 at 9:54 pm
huge news
http://www.blogtext.org/naturalborncitizen/article/29380.html?NEW+JERSEY+VOTER+VS.+OBAMA+AND+McCAIN+ON+%22NATURAL+BORN+CITIZEN%22+STATUS+NOW+BEFORE+SUPREME+COURT+-+ST#comments
My name is Mark Seidenberg. I am the Vice Chairman of the Ameican Independent Party (California). I have no idea how to contact Mr. Leo C. Donofrio, but I hope this comment gets to him. At 02:38:57 PM on 28 October 2008 a “Certificado de Inexistencia de Registro de Matrimonio” [# B0015879 & dated 15 October 2008] was recorded at the office of the Hidalgo County Clerk, Lordsburg, State of New Mexico as Instrument # 20080001666. It was issued by Lic. Rogelio Aros Guzman, Director del Registro Civil del Estado de Baja California, with Apostille under the terms of Convention de la Haye of 5 October 1961. The document shows that after a search of the records from 1927 to the present, there was no record of a marriage of either John Sidney McCain (born 17 January 1911) or Roberta n’ee Wright (born 7 February 1912). In Senator John McCain III’s book entitled FAITH OF MY FATHER at pages 48 & 51 it tells a false tall tail that Jack and Roberta got married at Ceaser’s Bar in Tijuana, Baja California, Mexico on 21 January 1933. I could fined no record of them getting married any where. We checked, California, Hawaii, Maryland, and Panama,, but still no record of marriage. Unless John McCain can come up with a record that Roberta McCain n’ee Wright was married to anyone prior to his birth at the Colon Hospital at 6:25 PM on 29 August 1936 in the City of Colon, Republic of Panama, he was born out of wedlock and would not be a United States Citizen. That is because his mother Roberta McCain n’ee Wright listed her employment as a “housewife” on that birth certificate, and under the terms of the collective naturalization Act of August 4, 1937 [8 USC 5e] a parent must be employed by either the United States Goverment or the Panama Railroad Company (or its successor in title). Jack McCain was not married to Roberta Wright (not even by common law), therefore the lack of marriage by Senator McCain’s mother prior to his birth makes John Sidney McCain III an alien at birth and an alien today. He did not meet the citizenship requirements to be a U.S. Navy commissioned officer or a member of Congress. Copy of the above certificate can be obtained with a SASE returned and a check for $1.50 certified copy addressed to the Hidalgo County Clerk, Lordsburg, New Mexico.
http://www.blogtext.org/naturalborncitizen/article/29380.html?NEW+JERSEY+VOTER+VS.+OBAMA+AND+McCAIN+ON+%22NATURAL+BORN+CITIZEN%22+STATUS+NOW+BEFORE+SUPREME+COURT+-+ST#comments
BillieJo 11.15.08 at 9:54 pm
You take some beautiful photos Dances! Loved all the ones you posted on the last link, my favorite is that rainbow flag hanging down from a balcony……..awesome.
Luckyseven 11.15.08 at 9:58 pm
7TrishfromCanada 11.15.08 at 9:53 pm
Trish – I was referring to Lynette Long’s restaurant story only.
BillieJo 11.15.08 at 10:00 pm
Good to see you ((((Trish))))
Woodie 11.15.08 at 10:00 pm
Jenny i think we are going to do this offline as I heard from victory murphy does not want to get involved i think. ok She did not send me your email address…ask her for mine i gave it to her and gave permission then monday we can get this thing done. ok
this going to a new thread is quite annoying….sheeh!!!!
Tunedintopumas 11.15.08 at 10:00 pm
For those of you who may share my economic conservatism, here’s a petition oppposing the auto industry bailout:
NO BAILOUT FOR THE AUTO INDUSTRY
Nancy Pelosi, with the help of Barney Frank, wants to bail out yet another failed sector of the economy. It is not government’s role to reward incompetent, overpaid executives pursuing a failed and anachronistic business model. The American auto industry is in trouble because it produces a shoddy, polluting, gas guzzling product at noncompetitive prices driven by trade union benefit packages. It is a waste of taxpayer money to try to shore up an industry that needs to be radically restructured. The Big Three should be allowed to fail and file for reorganization under Chapter 11 of the Bankruptcy Code. They will not cease to exist, but will be restructured under the supervision of the bankruptcy courts. Congress cannot do a better job than the courts. The courts will supervise the reorganization of the industry without being tempted to reward lobbyists, campaign contributors and unions for their political and financial support.
Congress must allow the economy, existing laws and judicial bodies to resolve the Big Three’s financial problems and not throw more taxpayer money away under a hasty and ill conceived bailout.
The link is:
http://www.rallycongress.com/no-bailout-for-the-auto-industry/1409/
DancesWithPumas 11.15.08 at 10:01 pm
BillieJo
Thank you!
Now that I’ve figured out teh basics of picasa…
maybe I’ll finally get to share my photos from Denver! There are some beauts in there.
Mary Puma 11.15.08 at 10:02 pm
Thanks Murphy – Please keep the LA folks in your prayers.
SouthernGAL68 11.15.08 at 10:05 pm
Tunedintopumas … I am economically conservative! I will sign the petition.
DancesWithPumas 11.15.08 at 10:05 pm
Tunedintopumas 11.15.08 at 10:00 pm
For those of you who may share my economic conservatism, here’s a petition oppposing the auto industry bailout:
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I thought the Big 3 were making HUGE profits iin China and elsewhere? Is there a separte accounting for those profits? Either way, why aren;t they borrowing from their foreign (insert word here. I just went blank)?
Casper Cat 11.15.08 at 10:06 pm
Dwp..Great Photos.. And, I know you have sooooooooooooooooMuch to give to this cause you just blow my mind. Please NEVER under estimate yourself…You are a tremendous force in our Mission…I hope you re-read NEVER under estimate yourself…I admire you!!! You have so much talent that it just flows from you. Thank YOU for all that you do..
DancesWithPumas 11.15.08 at 10:10 pm
CasperCat…
Mary Puma 11.15.08 at 10:11 pm
Good night PUMAS – great pictures -
KarenWI 11.15.08 at 10:13 pm
#8- forget it. First of all,that’s bunk. Secondly, the congress passed a law (this was before BO stole the dem primary I believe) that certified that McCain is a U.S. citizen, and Thirdly, what difference does it make? He lost.
Woodie 11.15.08 at 10:14 pm
nitey nite….i’m gone tired now…
TrishfromCanada 11.15.08 at 10:14 pm
hi BillieJo
Catching up on reading the past 2 weeks posts
KarenWI 11.15.08 at 10:16 pm
More re post #8- I think this was put out by an obot. They are STILL out to get McCain and Palin, you know. Honestly, a guy gives his whole life to serving his country, suffers like he did as a POW, and then they want to pull this stuff on him even after he lost? So what… first of all I don’t believe it. BUT even if it were true, he paid this country back over and again with his own life. ..much more than any of us, or the obot who write that, probably did.
SouthernGAL68 11.15.08 at 10:17 pm
KarenWI … I did NOT want to offend anyone, but I was wondering the same thing. What does it matter … he lost! Besides, after spending 5 years in a POW camp, (refused to come home, when offered the opportunity) it does not matter to me if he was born on Mars … he has proved he is 100% American!
SouthernGAL68 11.15.08 at 10:20 pm
KarenWI,
I recognize the name … GopumaGo Could an obot just be using that name?
Woodie 11.15.08 at 10:21 pm
what is the relevance….i dont want mccain i want that obama…
murphy 11.15.08 at 10:23 pm
trish!
KarenWI 11.15.08 at 10:23 pm
Like I was saying… I’m not “attacking” the poster, but I have real question marks about the writer of that article. I mean would do this now… sounds a lot like an OBOT to me, a “hired gun” of BO’s…?… to shut up McCain and keep him from being a repub leader in the Senate?
KarenWI 11.15.08 at 10:30 pm
Ok, I just had a really crazy thought. There are lawsuits about BO’s BC springing up like weeds all over the place, right? And he’s not “putting out the fire” by producing it, right? Do you suppose he’s planning on them finding out he’s not eligible and that this is his plan to counter it? I mean, when they find out he’s ineligible he’ll have this to pull out and say “see? McCain isn’t eligible either. Since neither of us are eligible under your silly rule, you have to give it to the winner of the election”. Am I nuts for thinking this?
TrishfromCanada 11.15.08 at 10:33 pm
murphy 11.15.08 at 10:23 pm
Hey there Murphy
If you are still looking for people to help on the Oshawa project, I’m up for it. I can make phone calls for you. Oshawa is about a 20 min drive from where I work. Anything you need, I’ll help with.
Also, I missed the news that Mama was in hospital, I hope she’s doing ok now. Please let her know I’m keeping her in my thoughts. just in case she’s not blogging yet.
I heard they had a severe storm up in Wasaga Beach the other day, I’m not sure how far up the lake it went though. I understand it wiped out several cabins.
I hope you’re keeping well Murphy and getting more than a catnap here and there.
invalidresponse 11.15.08 at 10:38 pm
Trish!!!!!!!! Good to see ya!!!
kat in your hat 11.15.08 at 10:40 pm
DEAR INDYBOOMER!
And to anyone feeling sad and stressed…
My kat in your hat prescription:
http://clintondems.com/2008/11/stressed-and-sad/
DancesWithPumas 11.15.08 at 10:43 pm
Love the photograph on that page, kat
gypsy rebel 11.15.08 at 10:44 pm
GoPumaGo Something’s fishy here. This was McCain’s second time to run for President…isn’t there a way we can check this? Shoot, his mother is still alive too! I think it stinks like someone’s fish!!
TrishfromCanada 11.15.08 at 10:44 pm
Hey there invalid
murphy 11.15.08 at 10:44 pm
thanks Trish — I will tell mama.
GREAT about helping out.
I’ll be organizing the volunteers tomorrow and will put you right at the top!
murphy 11.15.08 at 10:45 pm
please watch this youtube and share your opinion. I’m rawther perplexed by it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUCtkRQqY2c
gypsy rebel 11.15.08 at 10:46 pm
GoPumaGo Plus there are maritime laws, etc. And his parents were both U.S. citizens……….fishy, fishy, fishy!
Luckyseven 11.15.08 at 10:53 pm
This is another good site.
http://www.propublica.org/
DancesWithPumas 11.15.08 at 10:57 pm
please watch this youtube and share your opinion. I’m rawther perplexed by it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUCtkRQqY2c
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Don’t let IndyBoomer see that video!
Unbelieveable….
the two of them… when they say “we”, they mean men. Now w”we” know what a woman executive looks like….and it’s Hillary Clinton. Dean: “We” didn’t realize teh degree of sexism, he limites it to mainstream media… doesn’t take responsibility for his pigboy selectee’s sexism.
I can’t even. I mean… I reeeeeeeeally can;t even let it sink in. Rarely have I want to put my foot through my monitor… this was one of those times.
Five white males sitting about there talking about woman..
The women, and at least one man, wasnt buying it though. And teh applause seemed anemic after dropdeadean spoke.
DancesWithPumas 11.15.08 at 10:58 pm
Dean so freaking outraged and knowledgable…. AFTER the fact. Scum. Scum. Scum.
TrishfromCanada 11.15.08 at 10:59 pm
Watched the video Murphy,
Nothing makes a bunch of men squirm more than lying to women about women. Suddenly Howard Dean is wondering why there was inequality between the sexes. Oh yeah, its ok for them to talk about it now and act all sincere, but they didn’t utter a word against it before Bo became President Elect.
Dean and his buddies are still an ass’s ass and they still spout nothing but verbal diarhhea. And the audiences still get suckered.
Not a woman on that panel, not even a false attempt to try to show balance. That’s how low they’ve sunk.
murphy 11.15.08 at 11:00 pm
thank you dwp. you and taggles always bring me back to reality.
thanks to taggles and Betty Jean for bringing it to my attention.
you know I had NEVER heard dean speaking before, until I watched that video.
watch it Pumas. it’s very strange.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUCtkRQqY2c
IndyBoomer 11.15.08 at 11:00 pm
Thanks, Caspercat and Kat in your Hat and everyone else who left me kind messages…I’m back after a dinner break.
It helps a great deal just knowing there are other people who understand. I don’t have anyone to talk to about this. My husband and friends all voted for O, and they just don’t get it.
DeadGirl 11.15.08 at 11:02 pm
There are some pics of the Rally in Boston today, on my blog. The crowd was huge, and I was packed in there, so I could not get close-ups of all of the wonderful people with their signs, there were some great signs, I am trying to remember some of them… I tried to get a picture of a sign that said “Don’t Forget About Us Obama”
DancesWithPumas 11.15.08 at 11:02 pm
“Nothing makes a bunch of men squirm more than lying to women about women.”— Trish
perfect!
DancesWithPumas 11.15.08 at 11:03 pm
Deadgirl…
Here are the photos I took today. (Use the slide show feature so you can just zip through them)
http://picasaweb.google.com/DancesWithPumas/DancesNoH8Protest?authkey=g4RzPuZ-7o8#slideshow
IndyBoomer 11.15.08 at 11:04 pm
Hi Kat in Your Hat (by the way, I’m a Catherine, too, but with a “C”).
thanks for this post; I bookmarked it and will refer to it often in the next few days:
kat in your hat 11.15.08 at 10:40 pm
DEAR INDYBOOMER!
And to anyone feeling sad and stressed…
My kat in your hat prescription:
http://clintondems.com/2008/11/stressed-and-sad/
invalidresponse 11.15.08 at 11:04 pm
I’m speechless….which is rare for me………just sitting here shaking my head after that …………..boggledmybrain
murphy 11.15.08 at 11:04 pm
and thank you Trish!
DeadGirl 11.15.08 at 11:05 pm
OM& The fires in Southern California. The kid wants to see them, but I do not want him to see that…
Casper Cat 11.15.08 at 11:05 pm
IndyBoomer please remember you are FAMILY and you are not alone. Please take care and have a wonderful night…
DancesWithPumas 11.15.08 at 11:05 pm
murphy 11.15.08 at 11:00 pm
thank you dwp. you and taggles always bring me back to reality.
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Why? What were you thinking, Murphy?
Am I gonna have to come over there??
murphy 11.15.08 at 11:06 pm
deadgirl! I’m sorry Skipper and I didnt see you. and where’s the link to your blog?!?
silly puma!
DancesWithPumas 11.15.08 at 11:06 pm
I’m putting that video in the swexism section…. need a Backpeddaling category there.
murphy 11.15.08 at 11:07 pm
it’s just kind of astonishing that he can sound so sincere and practically outraged. it’s like he believes his own story.
weird.
DancesWithPumas 11.15.08 at 11:07 pm
invalid, exactly!
The gall (gaul?) (ghaul?) THE GHOUL!!
Griffin 11.15.08 at 11:08 pm
No one would be worrying about McCain’s citizenship if they weren’t afraid that the thug Obama is about to be outed as a noncitizen. If neither were eligible, then wouldn’t the next ones in line in the primaries have to run against each other? Another national vote, actually? Or is there a rule in place dealing with this specific, truly bizarre possibility?
DeadGirl 11.15.08 at 11:08 pm
Dances, your pictures take me back home to Sunny California!!! Well, Northern California has oodles of fog, but there are palm trees and plenty of sun!!! I do not miss the fires though, I was always shipped to the north coast when they flared!
Rabblerouser 11.15.08 at 11:09 pm
murphy 11.15.08 at 10:45 pm
please watch this youtube and share your opinion. I’m rawther perplexed by it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUCtkRQqY2c
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Should I puke now, or later????
KarenWI 11.15.08 at 11:10 pm
#59 Griffin… that’s pretty much what I said in #30, LOL…
DancesWithPumas 11.15.08 at 11:11 pm
Deadgirl
I do not miss the fires though, I was always shipped to the north coast when they flared!
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Not a bad destination! I lived in No CA for 25 +- years.
Big diff betw no and so ca. Huge. I miss Northern CA
SouthernGAL68 11.15.08 at 11:11 pm
Murphy,
After watching the video, he confirmed everything we have all been saying on these post … plain and simple! We, Americans are NOT where we thought we were as Americans in respect to equality. Look at the way both Hillary and Sarah were treated by the media etc… Why were they treated like this? Because we, women have NOT stood up and said NO MORE! It goes back to that old principle, “you have to teach people how to treat you”!
This is just my 2 cents.
DancesWithPumas 11.15.08 at 11:12 pm
weird.
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frightening
DancesWithPumas 11.15.08 at 11:12 pm
weird.
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frightening.
pathological.
invalidresponse 11.15.08 at 11:14 pm
#57 yes Murphy that was my first reaction……then went to the “how dare he”….then …………grrrrrrrrrrrrrr truly boggled
Luckyseven 11.15.08 at 11:15 pm
Howard Dean’s wife is a doctor. Maybe she has been giving him some “drugs”!!! That panel was absurd. Those men probably had their fingers crossed that no women would ask any questions. Dean’s answer was purely political and pandering to the women in the audience. Too bad there wasn’t a follow-up question as to why he allowed all of the attacks on Hillary if he was so “sensitive” to the media (and the 1970′s story of women and athletics!!!), and their portrayal of Hillary. Bet the truth -o-meter would say “Liar, Liar, pants on fire”!!!
Rabblerouser 11.15.08 at 11:15 pm
SouthernGAL68 11.15.08 at 11:11 pm
Murphy,
After watching the video, he confirmed everything we have all been saying on these post … plain and simple! We, Americans are NOT where we thought we were as Americans in respect to equality. Look at the way both Hillary and Sarah were treated by the media etc… Why were they treated like this? Because we, women have NOT stood up and said NO MORE! It goes back to that old principle, “you have to teach people how to treat you”!
This is just my 2 cents.
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Sadly, woman do not form a cohesive group as other groups do. This was a problem back in the 60′s during the feminist period. I remember what a threat feminists were to a lot of women, even though the object was to improve their lives…
Griffin 11.15.08 at 11:15 pm
KarenWI: Great minds and all that. LOL.
SouthernGAL68 11.15.08 at 11:16 pm
Oh! I thought Murphy was asking about the CONTENT of what he was saying. I am sorry, I misunderstood her question.
kat in your hat 11.15.08 at 11:17 pm
Dances, I ripped off that pretty image from riverdaughter’s site a while ago. Dunno who posted it, I just saved it and didn’t give hat tip to general image.
IndyBoomer: Feel better sweetheart.
Murphy:
DEAN is a damn day late and a dollar short. Of course he has good points there, but it’s because we attacked him. Made him look.
Is this any sort of surprise? Weren’t black men mainly voting before white women? Nothing is going to CHANGE unless we FORCE a gd new dynamic in this country. Think of what you know and flip it. FLIP IT!
NO MORE being self-sacrificial. It is NOT brave or gallant or good or respected! Since when? GD women give up everything to get heart disease and cancer while the rest of the family lives. LIVES on this planet, and she doesn’t!
grrr. Listening to men on all men panel…putter putter…schedules. WELL, if they cared so much, they would have cancelled until women could be there.
Enough!
DeadGirl 11.15.08 at 11:19 pm
Beautiful pictures Dances, now I am homesick fo sho!!!
KarenWI 11.15.08 at 11:20 pm
Griffin, apparently only you and I thought that. Nobody else has any comment on it. LOL… I still think this is something BO has ARRANGED because he EXPECTS to be found ineligible to be POTUS. If he weren’t expecting it, if he had proof, why hasn’t he shown it by now? The fact that he is NOT showing his proof says a LOT… and now this coming out about McCain? Right now when all these lawsuits are starting to possibly come to a head and expose BO? I really think this is a planned situation to “cover” BO’s butt when they find him ineligible… I would like to hear what some more PUMAS say about this though (read #30 and #59 folks)…
DeadGirl 11.15.08 at 11:20 pm
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Murphy, click on my BLUE Name!!!
DancesWithPumas 11.15.08 at 11:21 pm
Sadly, woman do not form a cohesive group as other groups do. This was a problem back in the 60’s during the feminist period. I remember what a threat feminists were to a lot of women, even though the object was to improve their lives…
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Media didnt help then either. There was all sorts of ridicule, and the moronic focus on bra- burning, which wasn’t as prevalent as they wanted everyne to believe.
I think a great number of women are, or strive to be independant, while other women attach themselves to power (males…workplace, politics, etc.) and the power structure, and, unconsciously, or consiously, internalize the sexism as a way to maintain their positions within the sphere of that power.
DeadGirl 11.15.08 at 11:21 pm
I had the white sign that said Marriage Equality is a HUMAN RIGHT NO H8
NewOrleansPuma 11.15.08 at 11:21 pm
#44MurphY: Strange? Murphy. there is nothing strange whatsoever about Howard Dean here. He is a disingenuos piece of crap. This is Howard’ Dean’s attempt to reveal after the fact what he in fact did know and did nothing about, and in fact used to his and Obama’s advantage. This is not any new insight he got or somehow came to. This is a blatant admission,of his role in all that went on, under the guise of attempting to speak on behalf of women after this piece of crap did all that he did This tape reveals more than anything what a utter and contemptible louse he and the rest of these men are. And, as far as schedules re women on the panel, that also is crap. This is an after the fact let me rearrange what really happened panel and Dean is the utter most contemptible here of them all. This tape makes me want to puke. Hypocrites…
SouthernGAL68 11.15.08 at 11:22 pm
Oh … I feel like a dumb-ass! I was not around during Hillary’s primary, so I did NOT know what he had done and/or allowed! Sorry yall! I thought Murphy was just asking us to give comments on what her was saying! Sorry!
murphy 11.15.08 at 11:22 pm
kat — is that YOUR blog??
and deadgirl, I still dont see a link??
southerngal68 — you kidding? i loved your comment. absolutely spot on.
silly puma.
DancesWithPumas 11.15.08 at 11:24 pm
MURPHY
http://deadgirlsrise.blogspot.com/
gypsy rebel 11.15.08 at 11:25 pm
Griffin and Karen
Here’s my story: 10 years ago I remarried. I was married at my neighbor’s ranch. We had a minister there. I didn’t get my marriage certificate and had to call the Minister. We had the informal one but not the actual marriage certificate……. I told my husband he still had the opportunity to get out of it!
This can happen anywhere! In fact, think I’ll doublecheck mine tonite!!
DancesWithPumas 11.15.08 at 11:26 pm
Nice shots, deadgirl.
They seem to be wearing a lot of blue in boston
invalidresponse 11.15.08 at 11:26 pm
Murphy if you are viewing the blog like we do…..the names that are the color blue are links…. if you click on them you are taken to that persons blog
NewOrleansPuma 11.15.08 at 11:26 pm
#57Murphy: No Murphy. He does not beleive his own story. He wants that audience and us to believe it and he, in his contemptuos arrogance, and in his reconstruction of reality
actually think they and we do. Because that is how arrogance works and that is how arrogance with power thinks. I could right now take this …man’s head off of him and put it on a the end of a spear for his arrognace.
invalidresponse 11.15.08 at 11:27 pm
might be different if you are viewing from the admin position
DancesWithPumas 11.15.08 at 11:28 pm
invalidresponse 11.15.08 at 11:26 pm
Murphy if you are viewing the blog like we do…..the names that are the color blue are links…. if you click on them you are taken to that persons blog
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Murphy’s Law is… if you refer to a link, you must post it, instead of having everyone scrolling all over the place to find it.
Something like that.
Rabblerouser 11.15.08 at 11:28 pm
I think a great number of women are, or strive to be independant, while other women attach themselves to power (males…workplace, politics, etc.) and the power structure, and, unconsciously, or consiously, internalize the sexism as a way to maintain their positions within the sphere of that power.
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You bet – what I thought feminism had settled, actually has never been settled. I see it in teenage students – I thought it was just a Vermont phenomenum (sp?) because VT is 20 years behind the rest of the world, but I don’t think it is. I’m ever amazed at how the boys treat them and how THEY ALLOW THEMSELVES TO BE TREATED.
kat in your hat 11.15.08 at 11:28 pm
murphy, no, it is “Clinton Democrats”…it’s a fantastic site because each person can post their own thread and respond to each other.
I’d LIKE to know: White men. Black men. White women. Black women. All others…who tf knows.
Is this always going to be the damn order?
Am I going to even see a woman president? I’d rather a 100% BLACK woman president than another cock and balls for the gd 220th year in our WH. I am sick of it.
You all are raising funds for Woodie’s cat’s ass. God Bless the cat. Here I am trying to keep my autonomy and pay my rent and not have to move in with BF…the “marry me NOW” hound, just because I am having trouble with finances.
Another sister bites the dust! I am going to have to move in with a man because of my wallet. How stupid this planet is! I can’t take it.
goofsmom 11.15.08 at 11:31 pm
Hi just catching up on the blog… Nephews are at grandparents, sister-in-law, oldest nephew and the dogs are at a hotel out of the fires way.. They live in Yorba Linda.
Been kinda distracted today.
Marches looked great, loved the pictures everyone…
SouthernGAL68 11.15.08 at 11:31 pm
Someone WARN my dumb-ass first of the history BEFORE I give my little synopsis! I did find it unusual that Murphy asked about this, because after listening to the video, I thought … he was quite clear in what he was saying. LOL ..
What a idiot i am!
BillieJo 11.15.08 at 11:32 pm
murphy 11.15.08 at 10:45 pm
please watch this youtube and share your opinion. I’m rawther perplexed by it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUCtkRQqY2c
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Just saw your post and want to comment before I read others…
Hearing Howie talk about what happened in the election to woman that identified with Hillary, how it has been swept under the rug………..
I am shocked. Not in what was said, but that Howie is the person saying it. I honestly don’t think he could practice this and sound this sincere if he were lying.
If he is telling the truth- was the fix in for Obama beyond Howie’s reach? Has Howie’s wife taken him behind the barn and given him a piece of her mind?
He actually sounded like he has respect for Hillary and women…could that be true?
He did step down from the DNC almost immediately after obie won………could he actually be upset at what happened?
I need to research this a little more before I make up my mind. Either he was since, or he needs an Academy Award!
I am never one that likes to jump on anyone’s bandwagon, just because everyone else does…as all of you know by now on my stance for Hillary.
If I find out anything further, I will post it and let others decide for themselves.
Interesting thought- if Howie was sincere, what really happened behind the scenes that we don’t know about.
turndownobama 11.15.08 at 11:33 pm
clintondems.com is a very good site. I’ve been posting there for a long time. I know the admin through email, she was a poster on hillaryis44.org for months and then got busy making sites of her own for us h44 people for special purposes.
Luckyseven 11.15.08 at 11:34 pm
1NewOrleansPuma 11.15.08 at 9:44 pm
IMPORTANT – IMPORTANT
OK everyone. I just got an email from Lynette Long. The restaurant story HAPPENED LAST NIGHT. She saw it with her own eyes. Now, I just can’t wait to send an email to that person who “saw” this on the internet last year.
DeadGirl 11.15.08 at 11:34 pm
I don’t think I want to listen to Blowhard Dean… Is that a My Bad, Mea Culpa, or it is all the media’s fault… Yeah, It’s too late at night to start my blood boiling up.
Dances, thanks for helping Murphy out!!!
DancesWithPumas 11.15.08 at 11:34 pm
Another sister bites the dust! I am going to have to move in with a man because of my wallet. How stupid this planet is! I can’t take it.
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Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.
WAIT.
Fundraising for you is an option….
are their other options? Can you move into a collective housing situation, or get a roommate?
You know, the reason divorces went through the roof whne the women’s moven reached critical mass is, inpart, becasue women were abeing accepted in higher paying positions (to meet quotas, often, but still…). Once women could afford to support themselves, they realized they no longer had to put up with living with pathetic jerks. So they left…. in droves.
MKfromLA 11.15.08 at 11:35 pm
murphy 11.15.08 at 10:45 pm
please watch this youtube and share your opinion. I’m rawther perplexed by it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUCtkRQqY2c
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Un-F-ing believable. A bunch of men helping us understand the Agony of this 2008 election for women. Howard can go F himself. Telling us how far we haven’t come, helping us see how sexism is still a problem in America, expecting us to believe he wants to be part of the solution when he just one of our problems.
I believe that about as much as I believe some other man’s notion that I envy men’s penis’ instead of their power.
F Howard Dean.
DancesWithPumas 11.15.08 at 11:36 pm
goofsmom
are you in harm’s way?
I read there were hurricane force winds north of los angeles… syill the case?
Rabblerouser 11.15.08 at 11:36 pm
BillieJo
If you’re thoughts on Howie are right, then we have to ask who is REALLY behind the stealing of the primary and the installation of BO as our President-select?
NewOrleansPuma 11.15.08 at 11:37 pm
BillieJoe: If you believe or even for an inkling think this man Howard Dean is not full of crap and disengenuos than, honey, you will believe anything. Get real. Howard Dean was and is remains a central player for the last 4 years in the orchestration of the demise of Hillary Clinton…in any form from the Democratic Party’s influence. You do not think he could sound this sincere if he were lying? I cannot believe I am hearing that…Get real.
I have to go.
DancesWithPumas 11.15.08 at 11:39 pm
… AND FOR THE BEST MALE LEAD IN A DRAMATIC ROLE… THE OSCAR GOES TO HOWIE DEAN.
Rabblerouser 11.15.08 at 11:39 pm
NewOrleansPuma
Have you ever seen his wife? She’s a mousy little thing and you can see that he dominates their relationship big time, even if she is a doctor…
invalidresponse 11.15.08 at 11:40 pm
BillieJo
He did step down from the DNC almost immediately after obie won………could he actually be upset at what happened?
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It was my understanding that he had announced that he would leave at the end of the election because the dnc was moved to Chicago
DancesWithPumas 11.15.08 at 11:40 pm
^5 MKinLA
high five
high illll
kat in your hat 11.15.08 at 11:40 pm
Dances, I will be fine. Always am. I am only stuck for a little while.
DEAN: bah! He’s too damn late!
Rabblerouser 11.15.08 at 11:41 pm
invalidresponse 11.15.08 at 11:40 pm
BillieJo
He did step down from the DNC almost immediately after obie won………could he actually be upset at what happened?
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It was my understanding that he had announced that he would leave at the end of the election because the dnc was moved to Chicago
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He’s also “dusting” off his resume, hoping for a position in the BO administration. He’s probably been or will be thrown under the bus, like everyone else…
BillieJo 11.15.08 at 11:44 pm
NewOrleansPuma
BillieJoe: If you believe or even for an inkling think this man Howard Dean is not full of crap and disengenuos than, honey, you will believe anything.
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I would be a moron if I didn’t think for myself and investigate things that don’t seem accurate. You have said things to me in the past that I have ignored, once again I will ignore you.
murphy 11.15.08 at 11:45 pm
thanks dwp,
adding deadgirl to the blogroll.
KAT! Noooooo!!!
goddamnit, we need a freaking budget.
DancesWithPumas 11.15.08 at 11:46 pm
Rabblerouser 11.15.08 at 11:39 pm
NewOrleansPuma
Have you ever seen his wife? She’s a mousy little thing and you can see that he dominates their relationship big time, even if she is a doctor…
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I had a different impression…. physiclaly she reminds me of a grown older version of lots of teh hippies I knew in the 60s.
If he dominated, I think we would have seen more of her during dr dean’s run for teh presidency… esp since there was so much pressure and speculation about the reasons she wasnt standing by his side, r helping him campaign.
.007¢
BillieJo 11.15.08 at 11:48 pm
Rabblerouser
BillieJo
If you’re thoughts on Howie are right, then we have to ask who is REALLY behind the stealing of the primary and the installation of BO as our President-select?
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I’m just tossing ideas out there that I am thinking. I do think the DNC was responsible for some of the corruption, but maybe other groups played a bigger part in the corruption like ACORN and God knows who else. Maybe we have only seen the tip of the iceburg in what happened.
goofsmom 11.15.08 at 11:48 pm
(((Dances)))
No, The Goof family is okay. Just the Sister-in-laws home is in the path of the “Freeway Fire” off the 91 in Yorba Linda. Winds are not as strong right now and temperature is down so the fire is laying down alittle. Whew.. problem is the hydrants are dry, seems the fire took out the water pumping station, so fingers crossed for the night that no embers land on their home.. Fire dept doesn’t have enough water pumping trucks right now, they are on their way from the Sylmar fire..
DancesWithPumas 11.15.08 at 11:50 pm
ROLF!!! @ The Goof Family
(You know how much I LOVE that!!)
invalidresponse 11.15.08 at 11:50 pm
Oh kat please investigate other options
goofsmom 11.15.08 at 11:51 pm
Yep… Did it just for you…
DancesWithPumas 11.15.08 at 11:52 pm
goof…
never enough fire fighting equipment in so ca! crazy
same in albany, ny… always borrowing snow plowing equipment form other cities.
You;d think that’d catch a clue… they’re in teh SNOW BELT…helllllllllllllllloooooooooo
DancesWithPumas 11.15.08 at 11:52 pm
(((goofsmom)))
Rabblerouser 11.15.08 at 11:56 pm
I had a different impression…. physiclaly she reminds me of a grown older version of lots of teh hippies I knew in the 60s.
If he dominated, I think we would have seen more of her during dr dean’s run for teh presidency… esp since there was so much pressure and speculation about the reasons she wasnt standing by his side, r helping him campaign.
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Well, they’re all former hippies up here, so yeah, she does look like one, part ex hippie, part Vermonter (tho she’s from LI, not far from where I lived!). I think she didn’t stand by his side because she hated politics and didn’t come across well at all on TV or in the press and I think they thought she was a detriment to him, which I think she was. I remember seeing one interview with her, and if people thought that Sarah Palin was “rustic”, she came across as even more so.
It’s always hard to really know who wears the pants in a relationship, but I can’t imagine staying married to this guy if you don’t really have to…JMHO
goofsmom 11.15.08 at 11:56 pm
Dances
Pictures were great… Sent them to goofsdad… His comment was, that crowd would have been great at the LA Times protests!!.. He thought it was cool.
kat in your hat 11.15.08 at 11:59 pm
I’ll find a way. Gawd. I just can’t do the whole thing. The whole stuck non-private…accountability to him thing. Sigh…Breathe…no. no. no.
Maybe I could for someone else. I just can’t lose it all. And I get forced into these sit down discussions on our “futures” all the time. I hate it.
DancesWithPumas 11.15.08 at 11:59 pm
It’s always hard to really know who wears the pants in a relationship, but I can’t imagine staying married to this guy if you don’t really have to…JMHO
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maybe they shared the pants?
What youre saying makes sense. She’s a doctor, with a busy schedule, so there was that out for them too, true or not.
hillstheone 11.15.08 at 11:59 pm
Santa Barbara Fire
Friends tell me the smoke isn’t too bad during the day, at night it moves in over the city, and they can hear the helicopters flying back & forth for water from the reservoir.
If you have friends there like I do you can check for homes burned / addresses here: http://www.countyofsb.org/ceo/oes0.aspx?id=2332
KarenWI 11.16.08 at 12:01 am
Well Griffin, apparently either you and I aren’t very high up on the list, or else what we think is important isn’t quite important enough, LOL.
hillstheone 11.16.08 at 12:01 am
Did Barack Obama buy the election? Vote here
http://www.sodahead.com/question/183578/did-barack-obama-buy-the-election/?link=GCPA_BuyVote_q183578_sq1&gclid=CIWLnK_z-JYCFQv7agodcC3SZA
goofsmom 11.16.08 at 12:01 am
hillstheone
Are your friends okay?
DancesWithPumas 11.16.08 at 12:01 am
kat in your hat
Well, shoot. That doesn’t sound like much fun.
Different pages. Tell him you don’t want to marry him.
hillstheone 11.16.08 at 12:03 am
Hi goofsmom, yes they are fine, I had a hit to call one last night & didn’t, but everyone’s O.K. The Mission Canyon area is notorious high-fire danger country, and the existing road system insufficient to properly evacuate a large number of people at once.
That said, it sure is a beautiful place to live!
snowtigerredux 11.16.08 at 12:03 am
Was lurking.
Now you see why men will be in charge for a looong time to come.
do you have any idea how many women will swallow that crap Dean just spewed.
OH I feel your pain. I understand. Its an outrage
He is the one who did it.
good lord.
What a crock of utter shit.
Oh the bs about having a woman on the panekl?
Scheduling conflicts? Does anyone seriously believe that there wasn’t one woman who could re arrange her schedule to be there with those men?
C’mon.
hillstheone 11.16.08 at 12:04 am
snowtiger, you really know the way to a woman’s heart, lol!
kat in your hat 11.16.08 at 12:04 am
Dances, he knows I don’t want to marry. He resents it. It’s just a long term relationship coming to its end. That’s why I am upset I might have to depend on him money wise. Oooh boy, I set myself up.
hillstheone 11.16.08 at 12:04 am
Funny somebody posted a link to clinton dems earlier, as I came on to post this:
The SOS Post: Should we forget about past misdeeds, and ask Hillary to clip her own wings in the process?
http://clintondems.com/2008/11/the-secretary-of-state-post-should-we-forget-about-past-misdeeds-and-ask-hillary-to-clip-her-own-wings-in-the-process/
snowtigerredux 11.16.08 at 12:05 am
KarenWI
Actually, you got a good point. What is this crap about? Cover for bobo?
Seems a weak attempt.
snowtigerredux 11.16.08 at 12:05 am
hillstheone
Part of my charm
goofsmom 11.16.08 at 12:05 am
KarenWI
Not ignoring you just a wee bit distracted tonight… I bet you if this gets into the MSM, that MaMa McCain would be more than happy to waive a marriage certificate right under the reporters nose and tell him to piss off.. I really LOOOOOVE Roberta McCain, she is a kick in the pants..
She does not strike me as the type of person to miss a detail like a marriage certificate, especially back in the day…
JMHO…
DancesWithPumas 11.16.08 at 12:05 am
sorry, kat
kat in your hat 11.16.08 at 12:06 am
Dances, me too. lol
goofsmom 11.16.08 at 12:09 am
awwww, kat
I wish I knew someone looking for a nice puma roommate… Hey Kat, that’s an idea could you post for a PUMA roommate on Craigslist?
TerryDo 11.16.08 at 12:10 am
kat in your hat 11.16.08 at 12:04 am
Dances, he knows I don’t want to marry. He resents it. It’s just a long term relationship coming to its end. That’s why I am upset I might have to depend on him money wise. Oooh boy, I set myself up.
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Hi Kat in your hat, I have been lurking and read about your situation and I am so curious as to your month and day of birth so I can do a quick analysis of your present situation.
Kat all I need is your month and day i.e. August 15
hillstheone 11.16.08 at 12:10 am
snowtiger, re- “Howard ‘what did he know and when did he know it’ Dean: When it comes to assuming the best in people – even to a fault – I think a lot of women (me included) are sometimes “guilty as charged…”
On the other hand I think it’s a better shortcoming to have than being forever mistrustful…but it’s nice to have the male perspective say “Howard Dean is full of it!”
MKfromLA 11.16.08 at 12:11 am
That sucks, Kat.
BrianH 11.16.08 at 12:14 am
OK, before I get stuck downstairs again, here’s a repost:
BrianH 11.15.08 at 10:36 pm
Woodie;
I didn’t recognize the description “brainwashing” as being the same as the hypnosis piece, that’s why I wanted the new link. Actually, I had pointed out the hypnosis piece here back on Oct. 18, and created the link http://tinyurl.com/ObamaHypnosis for it. (You can make your own links like that by going to tinyurl.com; they also have a special link you can drag onto your toolbar. When on a site, click that link and it automatically grabs the address. Making a word label like mine above is provided for on the screen. I keep a “library” of named links like that in a folder in my ClipMate permanent collection.)
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BrianH 11.15.08 at 10:49 pm
I was going to install Picasa, but knowing Google’s rep, decided to scan the EULA to see if they had access or use of the material.
Yep.
” 11.1 You retain copyright and any other rights you already hold in Content which you submit, post or display on or through, the Services. By submitting, posting or displaying the content you give Google a perpetual, irrevocable, worldwide, royalty-free, and non-exclusive licence to reproduce, adapt, modify, translate, publish, publicly perform, publicly display and distribute any Content which you submit, post or display on or through, the Services. This licence is for the sole purpose of enabling Google to display, distribute and promote the Services and may be revoked for certain Services as defined in the Additional Terms of those Services.
11.2 You agree that this licence includes a right for Google to make such Content available to other companies, organizations or individuals with whom Google has relationships for the provision of syndicated services, and to use such Content in connection with the provision of those services.”
No sale, Goog-Guys.
hillstheone 11.16.08 at 12:15 am
TerryDo are you on gmail?
snowtigerredux 11.16.08 at 12:15 am
hillstheone
Hills. I have seen it over and over and over. Women constantly looking for a good reason as to why a man is a piece of shit. Hell men do it for women as well, just not as often. This is classic manipulation.
“I understand” I”I care” “I am as outraged as you” =vomit=
Andyou know what? NO one can step in. I tried and lost several female friends who are now stuck in abusive relationships. I-D-I-O-T-S.
When some one is a pos they are a pos. Thats really all their is to it.
kat in your hat 11.16.08 at 12:16 am
You guys are sweet. I will listen to your advice. I’m a toughie, so I can make it. I’ll be fine. My month and date..errm…I am a pisces.
TerryDo 11.16.08 at 12:16 am
hillstheone 11.16.08 at 12:15 am
TerryDo are you on gmail?
Yes, I am?
snowtigerredux 11.16.08 at 12:16 am
*there
hillstheone 11.16.08 at 12:16 am
Well said, snow.
Katinyourhat, I sent you REIKI the other night, and I hope you finally got to sleep, lol…
hillstheone 11.16.08 at 12:17 am
TerryDo, then you’ve got mail!
BrianH 11.16.08 at 12:19 am
KarenWI 11.15.08 at 10:30 pm
Ok, I just had a really crazy thought. There are lawsuits about BO’s BC springing up like weeds all over the place, right? And he’s not “putting out the fire” by producing it, right? Do you suppose he’s planning on them finding out he’s not eligible and that this is his plan to counter it? I mean, when they find out he’s ineligible he’ll have this to pull out and say “see? McCain isn’t eligible either. Since neither of us are eligible under your silly rule, you have to give it to the winner of the election”. Am I nuts for thinking this?//
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Yeah, it’s all pre-planned obfuscation. The crucial difference is that there is no question WHERE McCain was born, just about the issue of US Territory under diplomatic law. With Obeastly, the questions are more fundamental: location, location, location.
kat in your hat 11.16.08 at 12:20 am
hillstheone, thank you, I did. Also, opening the windows and listening to light music was nice.
TerryDo 11.16.08 at 12:23 am
kat in your hat 11.16.08 at 12:16 am
You guys are sweet. I will listen to your advice. I’m a toughie, so I can make it. I’ll be fine. My month and date..errm…I am a pisces.
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Ahh, A Pisces… A talent, intelligent creative and intuitive woman….
A predict a friend will come into your life within the next two week and will help you out financially. Do not get married you have Saturn in your seventh house, and you will be miserably… Saturn makes for hard times in partnerships.
I am sure you are curious as to why I asked for your sign Pisces, it indicats the direction you life will be taking you.
Tons and tons of powerful friends will be arriving, from the end of this year right through to next year!
hillstheone 11.16.08 at 12:24 am
I think it would be good if the news covered the McCain story, cause then that would open the door for more coverage on the Obama BC story.
The LA Times had a phony Baloney story this week refuting there was a BC issue, however.
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/06/obama-birth.html
Zee 11.16.08 at 12:25 am
Oh! I searched the crowds for Murphy but didn’t see her! Alas…I spoke to the women with the rainbow pinata you photographed, too!
so deadgirl was there in Boston today as well?
Well, what a fantastic crowd, was it not? I was moved and impressed.
Less so with the media coverage, bah!
snowtigerredux 11.16.08 at 12:25 am
kat in your hat
Try talking touyr landlord. See if you can get a reduction in rent. I’ve known several people who were able to accomplish that.
If his lace remains empty for one month and your rent is 1000 dollars then he loses that for every month it is empty until he gets a new tenant and then he doesnt now the the tenant will be like.
snowtigerredux 11.16.08 at 12:26 am
Typo ,monster attacks ..again.
kat in your hat 11.16.08 at 12:26 am
TerryDo,
You are a sweetheart. Thanks. xoxo. I shall see.
Zee 11.16.08 at 12:27 am
I only wish I’d had a camera…so many awesome signs…!!
DancesWithPumas 11.16.08 at 12:28 am
Zee 11.16.08 at 12:25 am
Oh! I searched the crowds for Murphy but didn’t see her! Alas…I spoke to the women with the rainbow pinata you photographed, too!
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That women in the picture reminded me of one of the devotional candles they sell in supermarkets here… Our Lady of Something or Other
DancesWithPumas 11.16.08 at 12:29 am
zee… I took a tomn of pictures of signs today:
http://picasaweb.google.com/DancesWithPumas/DancesNoH8Protest#
kat in your hat 11.16.08 at 12:29 am
snowtigerredux: Yes, that is good advice. Creepy landlord *likes* me. The man, I am sure, can provide many options to help me out. yuck.
I will get it together and fix this problem. Honestly, you guys are sweet. I didn’t mean to bring it up–now that I have. lol.
kat in your hat 11.16.08 at 12:30 am
Dances, you were the photographer of the day. Did you also participate in the march with a sign?
snowtigerredux 11.16.08 at 12:30 am
kat in your hat
Ah. Then get him on tape offering to “help you out”.
Free rent for a year?
kat in your hat 11.16.08 at 12:32 am
snowtigerredux: lol…yeah, hey, ya know…it’s just the way it is for me. Ah Hah! One day I will be on top and won’t have to deal with a second of any of it.
DancesWithPumas 11.16.08 at 12:32 am
kat in your hat 11.16.08 at 12:30 am
Dances, you were the photographer of the day. Did you also participate in the march with a sign?
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Yes, I did. Also got interviewed.
The “Jesus Voted NO on H8″ was mine and many photographed it.
goofsmom 11.16.08 at 12:32 am
Snowtiger
Good one, you little devil you….
Nijma 11.16.08 at 12:32 am
Why is the name of this restaurant in DC not being published? There should be a picket line there every day with signs describing what the patrons there can get away with.
Women have economic power. Imagine if women could affect this restaurant’s business by saying no, we won’t eat there.
And what about the police? No Human Rights Commission? No internal investigation?
Women need an organization that will monitor these situations and take legal action. Where is our Operation Push?
kat in your hat 11.16.08 at 12:33 am
This is you Dances?
http://picasaweb.google.com/DancesWithPumas/DancesNoH8Protest#5269048664619563970
TerryDo 11.16.08 at 12:33 am
hillstheone 11.16.08 at 12:17 am
TerryDo, then you’ve got mail!
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Hillstheone, how can you email something if you do not have my email address.
Here it is Hills if you wish to send me something. prowlterrydo@gmail.com
snowtigerredux 11.16.08 at 12:34 am
goofsmom
I dont fight fair. Too easy to lose that way. :rofl:
DancesWithPumas 11.16.08 at 12:34 am
Nijma
There’s a question as to how current that story is.
Murphy has emailed Dr Long.
DeadGirl 11.16.08 at 12:34 am
Hi Zee, yes, the crowd was awesome, the peoples were in Da Hous! I am so proud of Massachusetts…. not so proud of my home state of California!
goofsmom 11.16.08 at 12:35 am
Terry Do…
Hate to ask but could you do me?? November 20… I’m starting a business and am curious what you see…
DancesWithPumas 11.16.08 at 12:35 am
kat in your hat 11.16.08 at 12:33 am
This is you Dances?
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That’s my sign. I took the picture just before I headed out to the protest.
TrishfromCanada 11.16.08 at 12:36 am
DancesWithPumas 11.16.08 at 12:28 am
That women in the picture reminded me of one of the devotional candles they sell in supermarkets here… Our Lady of Something or Other
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oh wow, I’m definitely going to remember that… when I send my parents their xmas card I’ll be sure to tell them that I’ve lit a candle to Our Lady of Something or Other for them. LOL Dances, that will keep me laughing for the next week.
goofsmom 11.16.08 at 12:36 am
Dances
Someone responded that they heard from Dr. Long and it was just last night… Don’t remember who??? Sorry
kat in your hat 11.16.08 at 12:37 am
“puma democrat” on the side! awwww!!
DancesWithPumas 11.16.08 at 12:37 am
goofs…
oh, okay! Sorry, I missed the comment(s) about it. Thanks.
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Trish!! lol
TrishfromCanada 11.16.08 at 12:38 am
Murphy,
Just in case you haven’t heard it often enough, this new website rocks, no more copying before hitting submit, no frustrations, you’ve done an excellent job with it. You really are talented!
DancesWithPumas 11.16.08 at 12:39 am
kat in your hat 11.16.08 at 12:37 am
“puma democrat” on the side! awwww!!
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The place was crawling with obots… t-shirts, and obiteme plastered on signs. Mostly guys though… don;t recall seeing any women with obot crap on them.
snowtigerredux 11.16.08 at 12:40 am
Must go. Night all.
goofsmom 11.16.08 at 12:42 am
Night Snow….
TerryDo 11.16.08 at 12:46 am
goofsmom 11.16.08 at 12:35 am
Terry Do…
Hate to ask but could you do me?? November 20… I’m starting a business and am curious what you see…
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You realize Goofsmom that I do this only in a general sense and it is not an indept analysis, however her goes, your birthday is on November 20th which puts you on the border between Scorpio which ends on Nov. 21st and Sagittarius which begins on Nov.22. When you are on the border or cusp you must consult both signs, What I see for Scorpio, easy communications for the next 15 years you will be able to see anything, and what I see for Sagittarius money coming easily into you second house of earned finance for the next 12 months and then a steady flow. Once cautionary note you must watch out for a “friend” that you have near you in a business relationship, there may be some difficulty, but not if you use you great communication skills.. Good Luck in your new business and Happy, Healthy Birthday on the 20th
kat in your hat 11.16.08 at 12:47 am
Well, I think it was a very successful protest day–nation wide. I only hope that enough media recorded it. Good thing murphy is.
gordana 11.16.08 at 12:50 am
#102 Rabblerouser -
Sorry! Can’t agree with you! Dean’s wife may look mousey, but I think she has his jewels (NOP’s expression) in famaldehide. She maintained her own name and pretty much kept out of his politics, as I recall. She probably was a Hillary supporter, while his hands may have been tied by higher powers., maybe Kennedy, Kerry, Pelosi. Will we ever really learn??
Just my two cents,
greta
TerryDo 11.16.08 at 12:50 am
TerryDo 11.16.08 at 12:46 am
goofsmom 11.16.08 at 12:35 am
What I see for Scorpio, easy communications for the next 15 years you will be able to see anything, and what I see for Sagittarius money coming easily into you second house of earned finance for the next 12 months and then a steady flow.
***That should have read you will be able to SELL ANYTHING!
DancesWithPumas 11.16.08 at 12:50 am
I think I’m going to go to bed and try to fall asleep.
Night. Thank you for all your support.
Woodie 11.16.08 at 12:51 am
That dean video, no you have it all wrong. the media did that to hillary and Palin. Plain and simple. You know why? Those dicks on CNN are terrified that god forbid if a woman was to get in a place of power such as the President what would those pathetic men do? We all know that women can do a better job. They have common sense. They are humanistic. They don’t have testerone mucking things up. We wouldn’t have half the wars, if we had women running the world. The men are terrified of that.
Believe me but it will happen so they better get used to. England already had Margaret Thacher and India had Gandi, so now its our turn.
Hillary for President once we get rid of Obama.
invalidresponse 11.16.08 at 12:51 am
Kat in reflection about your questions last night about marriage…..speaking from the position of someone that had a wonderful marriage, really when it is right …you know it…there won’t be a doubt in your mind……never settle for anything in fact if the words “settle for” ever come to mind it is either not the right person or not the right time…….hang in there, get tough, get your butt back in the game, and never EVER settle for anything……
kat in your hat 11.16.08 at 12:51 am
I am going to go out again. I need to–break the hell out. Gnight pumas. xo
invalidresponse 11.16.08 at 12:52 am
goodnight Dances…
kat in your hat 11.16.08 at 12:52 am
invalidresponse: thank you. xo g’night.
goofsmom 11.16.08 at 12:54 am
(((TerryDo)))
Thank you…and that’s good news on the correction… I sell Real Estate in CA… Whats even better is that I am starting this business with a friend… I will watch those communication skills.
You are pretty special you know!
goofsmom 11.16.08 at 12:56 am
Good night Dances and Kat
hillstheone 11.16.08 at 12:58 am
Great job on your sign, Dances!
Convention Colors: Remember we were all talking about Hillary wearing orange, well my daughter just pointed out that Michelle Obama wore black and red BOTH on election night and ALSO at the Convention!
Gotta wonder.
Well I am out of here for the night, ttfn (((PUMA’s)))
invalidresponse 11.16.08 at 12:58 am
Sonds like TerryDo pegged that pretty good for you goofsmom
goofsmom 11.16.08 at 12:59 am
Night Hills
invalidresponse 11.16.08 at 12:59 am
night hills
goofsmom 11.16.08 at 1:00 am
invalidresponse
Yep, I’d say so…
invalidresponse 11.16.08 at 1:01 am
heyyyyyyyyyyyy , I just noticed no happy song tonight????? WHat’s up with that???
Rabblerouser 11.16.08 at 1:02 am
I’m headed for bed. Nite all…
invalidresponse 11.16.08 at 1:02 am
nite rouser
goofsmom 11.16.08 at 1:02 am
night rabblerouser
goofsmom 11.16.08 at 1:04 am
invalid response
Yea, your right… where is our darn song.
Luckyseven 11.16.08 at 1:04 am
174goofsmom 11.16.08 at 12:36 am
hi – I heard from Lynette Long. This restaurant harrassment did occur last night – well now two nights ago.
goofsmom 11.16.08 at 1:05 am
oops… your = you’re
invalidresponse 11.16.08 at 1:05 am
you just KNOW that she has already gone to bed and left us here waiting for our happy song
goofsmom 11.16.08 at 1:05 am
Luckyseven –
Sorry I didn’t remember your name…
goofsmom 11.16.08 at 1:07 am
invalidresponse
Hmmm.. well that’s not very nice… but we have to forgive her… she was at the protest in Boston… she was probably a very tired little puma…
Woodie 11.16.08 at 1:07 am
I think the McCain BC is a hoax….Even if it is true, McCain flows with character anyone who spent five years in that hell hole for his country is an American citizen by default. Obama on the other hand, has no character, his an elitist AH, razko may sing to the FBI, his BC is a fraud, and he is an alien because he cant prove he is a natural born US citizen not to mention his association with Ayers and Acorn. Would not go well in the courts. No I think Obama has a lot to worry about and his disrespect for the law is going to catch up with him one way or the other.
goofsmom 11.16.08 at 1:09 am
Woodie,
Did you check out the Alan Keyes lawsuit in CA?
Woodie 11.16.08 at 1:13 am
No do you have info on it…?
goofsmom 11.16.08 at 1:15 am
Hang on I’ll get it…
TerryDo 11.16.08 at 1:16 am
hillstheone, you’ve got mail!
goofsmom 11.16.08 at 1:16 am
Woodie,
Here’s the link..
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=80931
goofsmom 11.16.08 at 1:17 am
TerryDo
Thank you for the early birthday wishes…
TerryDo 11.16.08 at 1:23 am
Woodie 11.16.08 at 1:07 am
I think the McCain BC is a hoax….Even if it is true, McCain flows with character anyone who spent five years in that hell hole for his country is an American citizen by default. Obama on the other hand, has no character, his an elitist
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If I get a read on McCain’s birth certificate from the comments, it is that his mum was preganat with him, before she and his dad got married.
So what, both his parents are Americans and they both were on the base, which technically is U.S. domain, so what seems to be the problem, I am just to lazy to read the whole article.
I prefer Readers Digest versions of most everything. Have I missed anything?
goofsmom 11.16.08 at 1:29 am
LOL TerryDo
I’m off to bed now… Nighty Night PUMA’s
invalidresponse 11.16.08 at 1:33 am
here is the happy song for tonight …a bit of a blast from the past
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gu-lWRjy4bI&feature=related
Luckyseven 11.16.08 at 1:33 am
TerryDo 11.16.08 at 1:23 am
Woodie 11.16.08 at 1:07 am
McCain has an older sister, so he was not their first child. I am sure that they were married. That whole thing is probably a hoax to take everyone’s mind off “the one’s” bc.
TerryDo 11.16.08 at 1:35 am
Luckyseven 11.16.08 at 1:33 am
TerryDo 11.16.08 at 1:23 am
Woodie 11.16.08 at 1:07 am
McCain has an older sister, so he was not their first child. I am sure that they were married. That whole thing is probably a hoax to take everyone’s mind off “the one’s” bc.
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Well there you go Luckyseven, you solved the stupid rumor.
And goodnight to the Puma nightshift
Woodie 11.16.08 at 1:46 am
goodnite….sunday day of rest and don’t forget to wear your Sunday Best….
mountainsong 11.16.08 at 2:18 am
The world is gone mad. The blog is depressing.
I’m sorry to hear of your misfortune, Kat.
mountainsong 11.16.08 at 2:21 am
I haven’ done a thing today. Couldn’t see any good reason to get up, so Itayed in bed til noon. Did a load of laundry, 20 minutes on the Dreadmill, and then just lurked, but everytime I read something it just shuts me down. Watched Lifetime, but it’s all about men abusing women. Geezus!
mountainsong 11.16.08 at 2:26 am
One of the older women here where I live (older than me) asked me, “Don’t you have a man, Ashleigh?” Another one~~”Are you looking for a man, Ashleigh?” And I’m, like, “Umm, no, I’m a lesbian. I only need a man for 3 things~~ to take out the garbage, shovel the snow, and target practice. And I can pay some teenager 5 bucks to do do the first two.”
Besides, if I ever NEED a man, I’ll just be one. Ewww
mountainsong 11.16.08 at 2:28 am
Thread change? Nope, everyone is sleeping….or drunk.
mountainsong 11.16.08 at 2:47 am
*sigh* Just no one wants to talk with me prolly….
BrianH 11.16.08 at 3:14 am
Us westcoasters have a tendency to get hung out and forgotten after the Easterners are done with business, mountain. It’s the way of the world (round).
SouthernGAL68 11.16.08 at 3:31 am
**** WELL, WELL, WELL …. LOOK WHAT WE HAVE HERE ……….
Why have we NOT heard one peep out of the media about this …It is dated … Nov. 4, 2008
Note: I knew that Obama bought his house from Rezko and I knew that Rezko had been convicted in June. Obama reminds me of a “snake in the grass”! BO has to be the luckiest person in the world OR his corruption is so enormous that nothing will ever get pinned on him! It seems he gets away with EVERYTHING!
Check this out …
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/nov/04/fbi-asked-questions-on-rezko-land-deal/
mzebest 11.16.08 at 4:51 am
Totally agree with this article
http://logisticsmonster.com/2008/11/13/stop-preaching-to-the-choir/
Fighting battles for women’s equality, voter fraud, or getting Olbermann fired… or whatever other issues stand in our way are useless battles as long as “The ONE” who fuels this chaos is in power. The real battle needs to be against Obama. If we can’t stop him from getting into office then we need to be a wall of opposition against his pursuit in implementing policies. We must stop HIM at all costs and also work towards ensuring he doesn’t get re-elected in 2012 (since he has a vast well oiled machine for voter fraud). This needs to be the central focus before we will have any chance at all of fixing all the other problems that he is at the root of inflaming. At the risk of quoting McCain slogans – country first — preserve this Republic as much as possible.
I would also like to suggest we try to figure out a way to still educate those brainwashed by him. If there are articles on how to deprogram the misconceptions these people possess — I’m open to learning how to do this.
kat in your hat 11.16.08 at 5:32 am
mountainsong 11.16.08 at 2:18 am
The world is gone mad. The blog is depressing.
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roflmao…lol….mountain xoxo
Notyoursweetie 11.16.08 at 6:23 am
WaPo decided it was time to debunk some myths about this election
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/11/16/debunking-some-myths/
mcr 11.16.08 at 7:06 am
http://jbjd.wordpress.com/
FIND OUT WHETHER BARACK OBAMA IS A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN AS REQUIRED UNDER ARTICLE II OF THE U.S. CONSTITUTION AND STOP THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE FROM VOTING FOR HIM, IF HE IS NOT!
Saturday, 15 November 2008 by jbjd
To: Concerned Americans
From: Team jbjd
Subject: How One Courageous Soldier Can Find Out Whether Barack Obama is a Natural Born Citizen under Article II of the U.S. Constitution and Stop the Electoral College from Voting for Him, if He is Not
Date: November 15, 2008
Introduction
Almost everyone who paid attention to the Presidential election seems to know that under Article II of the U.S. Constitution, in order to be the President, you have to be a natural born citizen. But hardly anyone is aware there is no provision in either federal or state law that says anyone, anywhere, has to check. That’s right. Nothing. This means that, without your intervention, the man who ends up in the White House could be ineligible to be President, as a matter of law….
GoPumaGo 11.16.08 at 7:14 am
I do not know what to do but I would be working now to get a new Proposition 9 that will reverse 8 on the next election. Of course a big part of being successful will be to keep the idea before the public until the next election. But it seems to me that to accept this injustice now is to set back the cause for a long time.
I really think the public will support a reversal of 8
one reason is that I am sure many people were confused on which way they were voting. We have to make the vote more clear next time. And we have to keep the issue alive.
Go PUMA Go
GoPumaGo 11.16.08 at 7:21 am
Well there are really 2 problems.
1. There is not a good definition of Natural Born Citizen in the Constitution. It has to be part of the Constitution not just a law.
2. There is no procedure for checking the candidates. But then how can you check if you dont know the definition of Natural Born Citizen.
If Obama becomes President the above 2 will allow everyone to be president. The founders of the country wanted it to be very very limited. With people saying they want Arnold Schwartneiger to be able to run the tide is in the wrong direction. When looked at carefully we need to recognize the importance of a very very restricted definition. Even one that would not allow McCain to be President.
turndownobama 11.16.08 at 8:17 am
If you want to comment directly on this article for the WP’s mass audience, the url is
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/11/13/AR2008111303287_Comments.html
Box at the bottom. Wants login but we’ve had alerts here before.
5 Myths About an Election of Mythic Proportions
The GOP didn’t suffer a death blow. There wasn’t a surge of young voters. And more.
sistermoon3 11.16.08 at 8:25 am
John McCain was born on a military base just as any of our other children being born on military bases are.
But McCain is a natural-born citizen, even though he was not born within this country’s borders, since his parents were citizens at the time of his birth. As a congressional act stated in 1790:
Congress: “And the children of citizens of the United States, that may be born beyond sea, or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born citizens.”
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Ive never had a problem with Obama’s mother’s side, but we have elected someone whose father was a Kenyan citizen, the mere
heart and soul of conflict of interest seems to me to be the main
issue.
sistermoon3 11.16.08 at 8:26 am
Even his mother did not seem particularly crazy about the usa
shown by her lifestyle.
indy 11.16.08 at 8:38 am
Good Morning,
On the US citizen issue, I think if Obama gets inaugurated and later evidence proves, proof positive, that he isn’t a citizen, the Dems controlling Congress, will find some way to weazel out of the US citizen stipulation.
We have two months to get the proof out in the open. I don’t know if Dec. l5, is possible.
On a lighter note: If Obama and McCain aren’t natural born citizens,then I think Hillary and Palin should be appointed Prez and VP (assuming we could dismiss Biden). For me, that would be a “Dream Ticket.”
sue66 11.16.08 at 9:22 am
#136 – Kat, just reading this now, are you talking temporary trouble, like just this month? If only for a couple of months, hang in there and don’t give up.
LatinPuma 11.16.08 at 9:29 am
#227 Southerngal68
This is an interesting report; If Sen Ted Stevens got indicted, then why wouldn’t Sen Obama get indicted too. Only Obama would come up with the excuse to say he was naive to think he paid a fare share value for the Rezco land. My guess would be that the FBI is building a strong case against barry; and figuring out the depth of the corruption in Chicago.
normapapuma 11.16.08 at 9:47 am
Repost from dwnstairs
#113 Indy
Gosh-You have the same allergies I have! I am saving a LOT of money with the tv off-watch FOX late at night only. I’m not a Republican, but I’d rather hear Hannity go on about Reagan than the “drive-by media” raving about the zero. I heard BO and MO have an interview coming up on tv today or tomorrow. (NOT watching it!)
Btw,KAREN,do you think they will be asked anything of importance? WHEN will they ask them why they gave up their law licences?
gordana 11.16.08 at 9:48 am
Good Morning ……..
Where is everyone??
greta
normapapuma 11.16.08 at 9:49 am
My post from earlier today was downstairs, too.
#103 Karen and all
I think violence against women/misogyny is a focus of this blog. Specifically, I’d be interested in studying the connection between this election and any increase in manifestations of it. We should have a “file”, if we don’t already.
I wasn’t able to get the email for Sen. Clinton out with the addy we were given here, so I took the opportunity to re-write my message and sent it via her website:
Dear Sen. Clinton,
As a former supporter and a member of the PUMA movement, my opinion may be irrelevant to you. However, I am still an admirer of your great talents, and I hope you are an ally for Puerto Rican statehood, so I believe you can trust my sentiments. I think you would be a great SOS, but I don’t trust the President-elect. If you continue to work for him you are further risking the potential for your own contributions. I would love, instead, to see you become the head of your own administration as Governor of New York!
sue66 11.16.08 at 9:52 am
Good morning PUMA’S. I do have to admit everything looks brighter with our layer of snow. Bargaining with hubby to put up lights in bushes. It’s going to be a long winter with no break out this year, lights always help.
zephyr 11.16.08 at 9:54 am
So my question is….WHEN did/does nobo have to have a security clearance for TOP SECRET national info??? As Senator on the Foreign Relations Committee? When running as a presidential candidate? Or just now that he is the prez elect?
Since some of us are speculating….I think it is odd that we really haven’t seen any live shots of him since the election, to my knowledge anyway…except for a video taped radio address. We are hearing about all this “leaking” of the possibility of Hillary as SOS and now he’s supposedly meeting with McCain. Something seems VERY strange to me. It occurred that perhaps he is running into trouble with either the FBI and CIA, and calling Hillary and McCain in to see what he should do.Who WOULD be the next in line if he were not eligible to be prez at this point?
OK….maybe this all wishful thinking.
Zee 11.16.08 at 9:56 am
Dances, thanks for posting all the pictures!
I did take notes on signs I liked in Boston’s rally:
SH8ME
Irony: Polygamists supporting traditional marriage
(There were also a couple of Mormons there in suppport….one had a sign “Maverick Mormon 4 Marriage Equality”)
Don’t be a Gayist
Fabulous is now Furious
Each time gays give rings an angel gets its wings
Justice, not “Just Us”
No more Mr. Nice Gay!
and my fave….”Liberty and Justice for All” with a beautiful graphic of
the Statue of Liberty laying a passionate kiss on the female Justice!
Zee 11.16.08 at 9:59 am
zephyr, they began to get briefings as Presidential Candidates…at least McCain and Obama did. So I guess that means they got the clearance then.
I wonder if Bob Barr, Cynthia McKinney, etc., also got clearance?
CJ 11.16.08 at 10:00 am
http://www.patriotbrigaderadio.com/archives/186
excerpt
November 12,2008: Norman, OK
The Patriot Brigade Talk Radio Network has teamed with new legal counsel, in Texas, and Oklahoma, to force Barack H. Obama ( President-Elect ) of the United States of America to produce a Certified Birth Certificate from the state of Hawaii ( or other state ) in compliance with the United States Constitution
Radio show…..patriot brigade…. LIVE NOW
http://www.patriotbrigaderadio.com/livejava.php
People putting our flag upside down to show America is in distress with Obama’s reign
http://www.patriotbrigaderadio.com/old-glory-in-distress
Zee 11.16.08 at 10:01 am
DancesWithPumas
The place was crawling with obots… t-shirts, and obiteme plastered on signs. Mostly guys though… don;t recall seeing any women with obot crap on them.
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DWP, in Boston I say one there with an Obot sticker on. And I thought, mm-hmm, just as I predicted there will be Obots who wear the buttons, face, and logo long after the election (I saw a logo on a car, too…not an Obama election sticker, just the logo).
But actually, I saw more than one sign exhorting Obama not to forget the gay community. So, it was more of a calling him out than in praising him.
Zee 11.16.08 at 10:06 am
Oh, and it might amuse our more conservative PUMAs to learn that I chatted with one of my longtime Commie acquaintances…who is always at the antiwar protests, etc, handing out literature for Revolutionary Communism.
And he was SO excited when I mentioned Obama campaigned with homophobes, etc. I know it’s fashionable in RW circles to call Obama the most extreme far left…but the Communists do not trust or like Obama.
I am so not kidding…he was trying to get me to come to a meeting next week and give a presentation on Obama’s shortcomings!
DancesWithPumas 11.16.08 at 10:08 am
Zee,
Just a drive-by for now…
There were several I liked, including the one Murphy posted above about beong more comfortable seeing tow men holding guns… etc.
THis is the one that stays with me:
“Surely there is [a] constitutional injury when the majority imposes on the minority that which it would not accept for itself.”
later.
gordana 11.16.08 at 10:08 am
#244 – zephyr
I think you’re dreaming. He doesn’t think he needs to go thru the process for clearance. Instead, I bet he is interrogating the FBI and CIA using his thugs. ….could be he bought them out as well. Nothing would surprise me!
I have lost all HOPE of him ever coming clean!!!
greta
Zee 11.16.08 at 10:09 am
Oh, that is a great one, DWP!
normapapuma 11.16.08 at 10:10 am
#227
This is good news indeed! Please repost later so everyone gets a chance to read it!
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/nov/04/fbi-asked-questions-on-rezko-land-deal/
lilibet 11.16.08 at 10:11 am
If it is proven that Obama was not a natural born American citizen, the Congress would try to change the Constitution. However, I don’t see how that would work because all the states would have to ratify it.
CJ 11.16.08 at 10:15 am
http://www.law.emory.edu/law-library/research/ready-reference/us-federal-law-and-documents/historical-documents-constitution-of-the-united-states.html#c7660
Obama’s fulfillment of the requirements to serve as the President of the United States laid out in Article II, Section I of The United States Constitution.
Section 1
Clause 1:
The executive Power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America. He shall hold his Office during the Term of four Years,8 and, together with the Vice President, chosen for the same Term, be elected, as follows:
Clause 2:
Each State shall appoint, in such Manner as the Legislature thereof may direct, a Number of Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators and Representatives to which the State may be entitled in the Congress: but no Senator or Representative, or Person holding an Office of Trust or Profit under the United States, shall be appointed an Elector.
Clause 3:
The Electors shall meet in their respective States, and vote by Ballot for two Persons, of whom one at least shall not be an Inhabitant of the same State with themselves. And they shall make a List of all the Persons voted for, and of the Number of Votes for each; which List they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the Seat of the Government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate. The President of the Senate shall, in the Presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the Certificates, and the Votes shall then be counted. The Person having the greatest Number of Votes shall be the President, if such Number be a Majority of the whole Number of Electors appointed; and if there be more than one who have such Majority, and have an equal Number of Votes, then the House of Representatives shall immediately chuse by Ballot one of them for President; and if no Person have a Majority, then from the five highest on the List the said House shall in like Manner chuse the President. But in chusing the President, the Votes shall be taken by States, the Representation from each State having one Vote; A quorum for this Purpose shall consist of a Member or Members from two thirds of the States, and a Majority of all the States shall be necessary to a Choice. In every Case, after the Choice of the President, the Person having the greatest Number of Votes of the Electors shall be the Vice President. But if there should remain two or more who have equal Votes, the Senate shall chuse from them by Ballot the Vice President.9
Clause 4:
The Congress may determine the Time of choosing the Electors, and the Day on which they shall give their Votes; which Day shall be the same throughout the United States.
Clause 5:
No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.
Clause 6:
In Case of the Removal of the President from Office, or of his Death, Resignation, or Inability to discharge the Powers and Duties of the said Office,10 the Same shall devolve on the VicePresident, and the Congress may by Law provide for the Case of Removal, Death, Resignation or Inability, both of the President and Vice President, declaring what Officer shall then act as President, and such Officer shall act accordingly, until the Disability be removed, or a President shall be elected.
Clause 7:
The President shall, at stated Times, receive for his Services, a Compensation, which shall neither be encreased nor diminished during the Period for which he shall have been elected, and he shall not receive within that Period any other Emolument from the United States, or any of them.
Clause 8:
Before he enter on the Execution of his Office, he shall take the following Oath or Affirmation:–”I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States
storytellers 11.16.08 at 10:16 am
good morning pumas,
in ref #8
that is a complete bs
gordana 11.16.08 at 10:18 am
lilibet 11.16.08 at 10:11 am
If it is proven that Obama was not a natural born American citizen, the Congress would try to change the Constitution. However, I don’t see how that would work because all the states would have to ratify it.
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After what we have seen done during the primaries and now with the GE, if the Dems achieve a fillibuster-proof congress, it will be a breeze for them to change and do anything they want, even with the Constituion. Don’t forget, THAT ONE’s ‘specialty’ is
Constitutional Law. He can find (or make) any loophole he NEEDS!
Sorry ….
greta
Rancho 11.16.08 at 10:19 am
I received this info. this morning. Thought I would forward for anyone interested.
“As some of you may, or may not, know; HillaryClintonForum.net has closed.
A new forum has risen to take the place of that forum. Many of the old
forum members are there. I ask each of you to consider registering for
that forum here:”
http://hillarysvillage.net/register.php
If you choose to register, please put my forum username (lanesharon) in the
referrer spot, that will speed things up for you.
I am also going to be shutting down my florida-delegates and
hillary-clintons-voice websites. I am going to be setting up a new website
at http://eagle-watch.com. The purpose of that website will be to ‘watch’
the new President and all legislation being proposed under his watch. I
will also be watching the media’s actions. I would welcome anyone, with
similar goals, who would like to be a contributing blogger on this website.
Let me know if you are interested.
BrianH 11.16.08 at 10:22 am
mzebest #228;
YES! “Fighting battles for women’s equality, voter fraud, or getting Olbermann fired… or whatever other issues stand in our way are useless battles as long as “The ONE” who fuels this chaos is in power. The real battle needs to be against Obama.”
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Distracting and wasteful, possibly fatal to the goal. Although the voter fraud issue may be instrumental and useful in un-seating him, if that is still possible in this legally compromised and corrupted environment.
Rancho 11.16.08 at 10:22 am
I posted this yesterday re. COLB lawsuits all over U.S.
Thought I would repost . . .Interesting information
http://americamustknow.com/default.aspx
http://americamustknow.com/allenkeys.aspx
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=80931
CJ 11.16.08 at 10:23 am
Sorry if I’m repeating my post………..
http://www.obamacrimes.com Atty Berg’s challenge……… we can help
We have received a lot of emails from American citizens asking what they can do to be heard regarding the issues pending before the U.S. Supreme Court. Although we cannot tell you to do anything, we can answer your questions and inform you what is available so you may be heard.
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murphy 11.16.08 at 10:25 am
Morning All.
Today is a new day!
Sunday reading posted, take it upstairs!
CJ 11.16.08 at 10:26 am
http://www.patriotbrigaderadio.com/
on the left is their live radio broadcast…you can listen and still post here.
Other interesting links on the site……..
Our constitution is important….Obama MUST abide by it.
if our government has vetted him thoroughlly then we sure know…they must tell us.
BrianH 11.16.08 at 10:36 am
So, to the point; does logisticsmonster qualify to be on the blogroll, or not? He would be happy to add pumapac if requested, I’m sure.
Or is it sweeter just to listen to the choir?
KarenWI 11.16.08 at 10:44 am
normapapuma… I wish they WOULD get into why they don’t have law licenses… but I guess they figure that isn’t nearly as important as the birth cert. thing and his “questionable” (to put it mildly) friends and his scarey government plans.
Patty 11.16.08 at 10:45 am
everyone is upstairs
BrianH 11.16.08 at 11:11 am
LatinPuma 11.16.08 at 9:29 am
#227 Southerngal68
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My guess would be that the FBI is building a strong case against barry; and figuring out the depth of the corruption in Chicago.//
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If only. And that latter task would take a couple of lifetimes; I sure hope we don’t have to await its completion!
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