From Dick Morris (I know, I know).
a) Sarah Palin made a vast difference in McCain’s favor. Compared to 2004, McCain lost 11 points among white men, according to the Fox News exit poll, but only four points among white women. Obama’s underperformance among white women, evident throughout the fall, may be chalked up, in large part, to the influence of Sarah Palin. She provided a rallying point for women who saw their political agenda in terms larger than abortion. She addressed the question of what it is like to be a working mother in today’s economy and society and resonated with tens of millions of white women who have not responded to the more traditional, and liberal, advocates for their gender.
AND:
c) The black vote made a huge difference; but young people did not. Obama, as expected, generated a big increase in African-American voter turnout. Fox News’s exit polls estimate that blacks constituted 13 percent of the turnout in 2008, compared with 11 percent in 2004 and 10 percent in 2000. But voters under 30 years of age were still the same 11 percent of the vote that they were in 2004. The surge of young voters, which was supposed to animate Obama’s rise, failed to happen.
AND:
d) The turnout efforts of groups like ACORN made a huge difference. Ultimately, it was the difference in voter turnout among Republicans and Democrats that, in addition to the higher black vote, elected Obama.
Read the whole thing HERE.
Bottom line: Puma Democrats really DID vote in numbers large enough to change the outcome. If not for ACORN and the Race Card and BAD gotv by the Republican Party, we would have won. Stupid thing to say, I know — “we would have won.” Yeah, we would have won if we hadn’t LOST, but it’s not so stupid as it might sound (seriously). Because the numbers tell an instructive story. The DONC played the Race Card to get their Chosen One in office. Let’s not forget that while the CRACKLE meisters furiously re-write history. White women feel politcially HOMELESS in LARGE numbers. And the GOP needs an ACORN of their own. Well, good luck to them on that. That’s their problem. But numbers one and two are OUR problem, or opportunity as I like to put it.
Our opportunity is to make a political home for Democratic women AND to fight bias, whether it’s the Race Card that flipped obama into office or the misogyny that flipped Hillary off.
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TerryDo 11.12.08 at 2:02 pm
Well It Looks Like I Am First!
TerryDo 11.12.08 at 2:04 pm
Homeless women how can that be, when their is welfare? Is it because they prefer to live on the street?
Society should have a women’s shelter in every large city.
A small one bedroom apartment so if need be, there is always a shelter for any women.
murphy 11.12.08 at 2:06 pm
I object to Morris’ conclusion that we are:
“tens of millions of white women who have not responded to the more traditional, and liberal, advocates for their gender.”
I would argue that we like our liberal advocates just fine.
IF WE HAD ANY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Cape Hatteras 11.12.08 at 2:08 pm
Terry ,he did not mean literally homeless women , he meant politically homeless women , women without a political party .
TerryDo 11.12.08 at 2:10 pm
MURPHY A MUST WATCH DOCUMENTARY IF YOU HAVE NOT ALREADY SEE IT!
I just finished watching The Lee Atwater Story “The Boogieman” on PBS, it was an amazing and sad piece of American political history, that demonstrates the internal dirty tricks, lies and twisted truths which worked to divide and conquer the voting citizens, dating back all the way to Nixon.
But what a legacy Atwater left behind!
The national political conversation has been polluted by the likes of Lee Atwater – and Karl Rove. Ultimately, he did irreparable harm to this country.
In the end, Atwater himself understood this and supposedly repented on his dying bed at the age of 40.
Lee Atwater the creator of modern day political playbook of dirty tactics was Karl Rove’s mentor. This legacy in the national political conversation has been polluted by Lee Atwater, Karl Rove and now David Axelrod has studied those tactics well and turns the tables on Senator Clinton and the GOP.
When you watch this documentary you see all the same tactics Axelrod played in Obama’s win at any cost, against Senator Hillary R Clinton and also against Senator J McCain.
David Axelrod is the Democrats answer to Lee Atwater and Karl Rove type of dirty political campaign strategies.
After watching the Lee Atwater Story, I am totally disgusted with all forms of politics, I believe both the Democratic and Republican parties are guilty of these tactics and neither can point their finger, for their will see three fingers pointing right back at them in accusation “You too!”
The Lee Atwater Story give you a picture where you came from politically, it will give you an understanding of where your at right now, and where you might end up.
kat in your hat 11.12.08 at 2:12 pm
TerryDo…read it. It’s not about homeless people on the street.
Well, it looks like these numbers confirm our efforts and gut intuition on where the gaps are.
Ok, Pumas, PLEASE also read headlines from here
http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/ (good articles are posted right now)
and here:
http://therealbarackobama.wordpress.com/
I have this aching feeling, like I want all of you to keep up with what I am reading and learning. lol…
RBO has tons of information. Has always explained the vast and astonishing Obama network.
DancesWithPumas 11.12.08 at 2:13 pm
Who painted the painting at the top of this thread?
TerryDo 11.12.08 at 2:13 pm
#4 Sentence spelling correction, sorry about that!
The Lee Atwater Story, gives you a picture of where you came from politically, it gives you an understanding of where you are at right now politically, and where you might end up politically in the future.
jenniforhillary 11.12.08 at 2:14 pm
PUMA is our new home…and our message is clear! We want a governement that speaks for and represents US. What it looks like we are getting is BUSH but WORSE…
I am glad to know for sure–even though I already knew it in my heart–that PUMA and WOMEN are strong and our force was felt.
MURPHY–please email me regarding radio show!!!
DancesWithPumas 11.12.08 at 2:15 pm
Mama,
We’re still watching over you.
jdona 11.12.08 at 2:26 pm
We need to start addressing Nancy Pelosi. She is giving every woman in a position of authority a bad name. Her autocratic, domineering, and power hungry attitude and her desire to make sure no other woman achieves any kind of stature to rival her has to be brought under control. I am still po’d about her treatment of Clinton and her threats to step in and close the nomination if Clinton didn’t withdraw. To say that is audacious is the understatment of the year. The question is what do we do?
BrianH 11.12.08 at 2:29 pm
From downstairs;
John Tamny is a strong-dollar economist, and has an article out on GM:
Time to Pull the Plug on GM. Excerpt —
You can lead a horse to water, but …
YWR1961 11.12.08 at 2:29 pm
She addressed the question of what it is like to be a working mother in today’s economy and society and resonated with tens of millions of white women who have not responded to the more traditional, and liberal, advocates for their gender.
Yes, She is a working mom, just like me. When she talked, it was not as experienced as Hillary, but they both have proved that it is possible to have “it all”.
From below, I am not into a discussion on Unions. I have family that works for the union. They were told how to vote…they didn’t. I am not giving a pro-con on Unions. That is your choice.. My complaint,,the membership could have voted however they wanted to when behind the curtain. Most voted the Union way. That is the ingorance that I blast…
kat in your hat 11.12.08 at 2:30 pm
This information is also useful in figuring out WHO the republicans should put up against Obama…
I think it also signifies an eventual true opening for a woman president. (Doubtful in 2012, etc)…
Anyway, the republicans are never going to get their own ACORN. ACORN was borne out of the mind of SDS Rathke and other anti-capitalists decades ago. It’s a sturdy web. Many organizations connected to it.
So the republicans better start getting smart now and preparing now if they want to beat Obama in 2012.
BrianH 11.12.08 at 2:30 pm
The efforts of ACORN, IMO, were less important in getting out real voters than getting out the dead, fictional, and duplicate voters. As the Franken Fiasco is currently demonstrating.
kat in your hat 11.12.08 at 2:35 pm
BrianH:
Well, in a nutshell–harr, it’s ACORN and the democrats who are mainly responsible for the housing mess which led to the manufactured economic crisis/ faux October surprise horror.
ACORN isn’t just a get out the vote, or housing advocate group, it’s really really complicated. They are a crucial tentacle in a vast network of fronts, and unions, and organizations and foundations, and political parties, and on and on. All leftist. It’s a radical machine.
jenniforhillary 11.12.08 at 2:35 pm
Truth will come out if WE FIGHT FOR IT. And we are going to have to.
One thing is for sure, MOST people are very unhappy. I see people walking around in a funk, and when I ask why they get tears (even the men).
PUMA needs to capitalize on this and pull these disenfranchised DEMS and REPUBS into our fold. WE are the new home for AMERICANS and we need to fight hard to reclaim OUR LAND!!
kat in your hat 11.12.08 at 2:38 pm
housing advocacy group*
Ok, pumas, bbl.
NewOrleansPuma 11.12.08 at 2:38 pm
12YWR1961: If you are not giving a pro-con on Unions, then do not start one with ignorance of the history of unionism in this country and the effect of nonunion advocacy in the Executive Branch and the Congress of the last 20 years. That is what your two previous comments did and my comments spoke to that and to the history which you clearly, having union family members or not know little about. What union are your members members of? That is as well relevant.
Ignorance of unions and their history and well as the merger in the 50s of the AFL and the CIO are also relevant.
My choice to respond to your two comments is a choice out of necessity to reveal what your comments either did not know or chose not to articulate. You stated a position and I countered with points. You raised a side of an issue. I articulated the other. I can go on but I expect you will choose not to. That is fine with me.
kat in your hat 11.12.08 at 2:41 pm
BrianH, oh wait, #14
Oh hell yeah, they cheated. By any means necessary.
Ok, I’m outtie.
goofsmom 11.12.08 at 2:48 pm
((Murphy)) ((Dances))
You have mail…
goofsmom 11.12.08 at 2:53 pm
NewOrleansPuma
Are you still on?
YWR1961 11.12.08 at 2:54 pm
NewOrleansPuma 11.12.08 at 2:38 pm
Please forgive my comment as offensive. I am only concerned the the Union members I know about did not research the candidates or their stand on the issues and voted for a party because they were told to. I consider it ignorance to vote for something, if you do not what you are voting for, just because you are told to do it, AND I have done it so I am ignorant, too. I had made a comment earlier in which I said, leave the auto industry out of the bail-outs. I stand behind my views, but did not articulate them very well.
murphy 11.12.08 at 3:01 pm
Kat — going to read them now.
jenni — will call u in a few minutes.
murphy 11.12.08 at 3:04 pm
jenni you have mail.
NewOrleansPuma 11.12.08 at 3:08 pm
22YWR1961: I did not find your comments offensive. I found your comments to be wrong, to be lacking in knowledge of the kind that is necessary if one is going to step into an arena and make a universal statement regarding something based on the premise that you once again state here that people went into the voting booth and and did not research candidates or their stand on the issues and voted for a party because they were told to. You are not omniscient of the minds of these people nor are you knowlegeable about what Obama promised these indivdiuals and the unions who supported him..You spoke and still do speak as if you somehow know what these men and women did or did not do mindlessly. That is offensive to them and to what they like every other sucker in this country who voted for Obama thought they would get…You can stand behind any view you wish, but standing behind the view is still not the same as articulating error as the basis of your view.
You did that. I countered it. You can stand behind any view you wish but if you articulate that view and that view is couched in a universal statement based on your pseudo omniscent knowledge of that which you do and can not know then I will be back as I am now telling you so..and whether that view is about what union members did or did not know and your juegemtn regarding that or any other issue I will respond if I am moved to do so. Clearly you do not know me here. That is fine. You know more about me now. And one thing you need to know is I go after issues not people. This is an issue about which I know very much, but one thing I do not know and neither do you is what was in the minds of those union members who in their best lights voted. To universalize that as you did is logically and for the sake of truth unacceptable, so I responded .
emme 11.12.08 at 3:09 pm
Hi everyone! Just dropping in for a few minutes to catch up.
#8 jenniforhillary – Well said jenni! “PUMA is our new home…and our message is clear! We want a governement that speaks for and represents US. What it looks like we are getting is BUSH but WORSE… I am glad to know for sure–even though I already knew it in my heart–that PUMA and WOMEN are strong and our force was felt.”
#11 BrianH – I agree! “…businesses rarely fail due to a lack of money. Instead, poorly run businesses find it hard to raise money in the capital markets. Government money allows the architects of bad decisions to continue making mistakes that cause a company to be capital deficient to begin with.”
#13 kat in your hat – I think we (PUMAs) can also be a force in preparing now to help defeat ‘That One’ in 2012. The only thing worse that 4 years of ‘That One’ is 4 more years…
#22 YWR1961 – Frustrating when you see that happening, isn’t it? I work with a gaggle of non-union women who did the same thing, so believe me, it wasn’t just union members. Besides, I know a few very independant-minded union members who refused to be told what to do, informed themselves, and voted for McCain.
“…the Union members I know about did not research the candidates or their stand on the issues and voted for a party because they were told to.”
Dragonfly 11.12.08 at 3:11 pm
Murphy,
Barre Greene is an a$$hole. I just read his email to you. Real unifying!
PUMAs stand for scary ideas – let’s get rid of sexism and misogyny. OOOOooohhhh, that will never do. You had it right on. He wants us to shut up and sit down.
Oh well, Barre, I’m still standing up and yelling. Who gives a sh!t what you think.
goofsmom 11.12.08 at 3:14 pm
McCain defended Palin on Jay Leno show. Article about it from Reuters
http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSTRE4AB0MR20081112
Dragonfly 11.12.08 at 3:15 pm
Just darted in to say hey, PUMAs. Sorry I can’t stay longer. NOP, you rock.
Re unions – what makes me mad is that Obama supported the idea that people don’t get to vote secretly. A friend of mine who is union voted for him because of the economy. The politics of fear – who says only the GOP is to blame for that trick?
Okay, love to all PUMAs, and Murphy, keep exposing the misogynistic crap to the sunlight. Good job.
NavyPier 11.12.08 at 3:15 pm
Who is Roger Calero? He’s the Presidential candidate for the Socialist Workers Party. Why do I bring him up? No, not because there are connections to Bill Ayers or Obama (there aren’t) but because he was placed on the ballot in New Jersey BUT HE WAS BORN IN NICARAGUA!!
So now, Leo Donofrio in New Jersey has put forth a new lawsuit. Please help get the word out.
http://www.blogtext.org/naturalborncitizen/
Leo Donofrio’s new lawsuit in the Supreme Court challenges the Secretary of the State of New Jersey, saying that she did not fully vet all of the candidates on the ballot.
Could this case finally get the attention of the MSM?
GBPuma 11.12.08 at 3:17 pm
First the entire exit polls this year are invalid because they are so off on the demographics that they can’t be used for anything..they were flawed beyond belief…..the only accurate results of the demographics will be in Jan. or later when the Census bureau post the actual data for this election….but the turnout %’s from the states themselves can be used……and in most areas the turnouts were pathetic…national average year is 89% and this year so far is 74.5%….also the entire Black population in the US is 12.5% of the population and those of voting age approx. 9.5%.
kat in your hat 11.12.08 at 3:20 pm
Rahm Emanuel, Obama’s Chief of Staff on MANDATORY CIVIL SERVICE PLAN (from NakedEmperorNews)
http://pumaparty.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=5665
ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
18-25 year olds. Mandatory 3-4 months in training. Starts in college.
ontherocks 11.12.08 at 3:26 pm
kat in your hat 11.12.08 at 3:20 pm
Rahm Emanuel, Obama’s Chief of Staff on MANDATORY CIVIL SERVICE PLAN (from NakedEmperorNews)
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How scary that is. My boys are 14 and 8. Wouldn’t BOs plans violate their rights in some way?
HP Boston 11.12.08 at 3:26 pm
Barre Greene is an a$$hole. I just read his email to you. Real unifying!
PUMAs stand for scary ideas – let’s get rid of sexism and misogyny. OOOOooohhhh, that will never do. You had it right on. He wants us to shut up and sit down.
Oh well, Barre, I’m still standing up and yelling. Who gives a sh!t what you think
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I sent barre and cc the editors of Newsweek barres filth.
He responded to me with more filth and said we were few and of course his bots are legion! I laughed and deleted him!
DancesWithPumas 11.12.08 at 3:28 pm
I’m wondering how many of you would be willing to make a contribution to Puma PAC, to have Murphy buy a bouquet flowers for Mama?
Any takers?
GBPuma 11.12.08 at 3:29 pm
LIARS LIARS LIARS……
so it only took 30 days to totally renig on the Bailout Plan that they signed……….so much for helping the homeowners by buying up the bad debt assets of the banks….instead they are giving the banks and wall street Capital……….
Paulson says troubled assets will not be purchased
By MARTIN CRUTSINGER, AP Economics Writer Martin Crutsinger, Ap Economics Writer – 16 mins ago
WASHINGTON – Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson said Wednesday the $700 billion government rescue program will not be used to purchase troubled assets as originally planned.
Paulson said the administration will continue to use $250 billion of the program to purchase stock in banks as a way to bolster their balance sheets and encourage them to resume more normal lending.
He announced a new goal for the program to support financial markets, which supply consumer credit in such areas as credit card debt, auto loans and student loans.
Paulson said that 40 percent of U.S. consumer credit is provided through selling securities that are backed by pools of auto loans and other such debt. He said these markets need support.
“This market, which is vital for lending and growth, has for all practical purposes ground to a halt,” Paulson said.
The administration decided that using billions of dollars to buy troubled assets of financial institutions at the current time was “not the most effective way” to use the $700 billion bailout package, he said.
The announcement marked a major shift for the administration which had talked only about purchasing troubled assets as it lobbied Congress to pass the massive bailout bill.
Paulson said the administration is exploring other options, including injecting more capital into banks on a matching basis, in which government funds would be supplied to banks that were able to raise capital on their own.
goofsmom 11.12.08 at 3:30 pm
kat in your hat
Just watched the youtube… biggest thing I got out of it was that they were discussing Rahm Emmanuels new book. This plan maybe what he has written about in his book as opposed to this being the plan “O” has in mind.
Having said that, I also want to state that Mr. Emmanuel has “O”s ear so could he influence policy, I would have to say yes.
goofsmom 11.12.08 at 3:31 pm
((Dances))
I’m in for Mama… anything for Mama…
DancesWithPumas 11.12.08 at 3:36 pm
I’m initiating a small fundraiser to purchase flowers for Mama.
Anyone who wants to make a contribution, please do. If you use PayPal, you can make a notation that your contribution is for Mama’s flowers. I will do that when I get home from work… I think my notation will be :Flowers fro Mama, and if anything is left over, Puma PAC should keep the change. I’ll also donate a little extra to cover Pumas who may not be able to spare the money at this time.
Good idea?
HP Boston 11.12.08 at 3:37 pm
DancesWithPumas 11.12.08 at 3:28 pm
I’m wondering how many of you would be willing to make a contribution to Puma PAC, to have Murphy buy a bouquet flowers for Mama?
Any takers?
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I am in————
michelina 11.12.08 at 3:38 pm
YAY!!!!!!!!back in,
Have to keep getting a new password everytime we crash,
Oh, well, they won’t track us too easily, if the day ever the
evil doers want to shut us up.
MORRIS: as big a “YUCK!!!!” you can hear, but your analysis on it is accurate (murphy)———-especially, the “if we had any”!!!
(((((((MAMA))))))))) get well and REST.
goofsmom 11.12.08 at 3:38 pm
Dances
Excellent idea… Should we wait to make donations till you set that up later?
kat in your hat 11.12.08 at 3:38 pm
goofsmom, well considering that he is Obama’s chief of staff, and that Obama has expressed the same views, as well as posting on his website that we will have services required of us, starting in middle school, and the fact that Ayers and those kooks’ goal is to get ‘compulsory service
in areas like education and health care’ (RBO), I think it’s pretty likely that this is what will happen.
You know the Chicago Annenberg Challenge (co-founded by Ayers, chaired by Obama) concentrated on education, but the objective was radical anti-American education and using the parents, teachers, and students to be activists. In order for these kids to get this unique education, all involved were required to participate in community activism, far left leaning activism.
NewOrleansPuma 11.12.08 at 3:39 pm
#32kat in your hat: This move has got to be stopped. This move is the line in the sand. This move must be defeated.
I stated only 2 days ago here,, that this National Security Civilian force plan by Obama would increasingly and quickly be couched in terms more benign as it started to sink into the heads of various people, just as the Obama campaign did with every thing he stated regarding anything that caused a firm rejection of the idea…This National Civilian Security force plan is now being couched in public terms, watered down in language to make it seem something it was and is not intented to be. This is an Alinsky move immediately.
In response to Cong Broun;s comments, which by the way he has already apologized for: His error? He stated the truth too overtly too soon …others, even in his own party, are still manuevering to see where they can play with Obama and therefore are calling him down..just as everyone called Ole Senator Byrd to task when he, if anyone remembers, called the moves of George Bush Natzi like…
One of Obama’s spokes people quoted today in the rag newspaper The Times Picayune…”declined comment on Broun’s remarks (catch that move?) but told the AP that the reference to the civilian corps (dropped the National Civilian Security corps title..got that move?) was similar to one proposed by the Bush administration to recruit civilians for defense related work such as building war torn Iraq..got that move?
Redescribing in more benign terms and deconstructing the language of the purpose of the force.
This is Alynsky deconstruction for the sake of Public Relations. This does not change the plan..but in typical Obama tactic style disguises the intent with the intent of making it sound what it is not.
Pay attention to this everyone…This must be stopped. Vigilance here as it goes forward to every detail and I only hope this is not done through Executive Order, but is attempted to be put through legislation. If that is its course then we must have a group to track every detail and word of this legislation from Committee all the way through .
This must be stopped.
goofsmom 11.12.08 at 3:41 pm
Kat in your hat.
Clarification… you are saying that the CAC made the parents participate in activism or their children couldn’t participate in CAC?
I wasn’t aware of this…
DancesWithPumas 11.12.08 at 3:41 pm
I’m calling it
PETUNIA PROWL:
I’m initiating a small fundraiser to purchase flowers for Mama, who is in the hospital at this time. Anyone who wants to make a contribution, please do. Nothing needs to be set up… just make a contribution as you normally would. Murphy will know how to deal with it, because Murphy knows everything.
If you use PayPal, you can make a notation that your contribution is for Mama’s flowers. I will do that when I get home from work… I think my notation will be: Flowers for Mama, and if anything is left over, Puma PAC should keep the change.
I’ll also donate a little extra to cover Pumas who may not be able to spare the money at this time.
michelina 11.12.08 at 3:42 pm
TERRYDO:
I suggested PBS’s documentaries a few days AGO>
THEIR AWESOME and something PUMA should be scrutinizing.
Our answers ahead, lie BEHIND what they left us with, and I agree, as far back as NIXON>
Unforutnately, on the damne EAST COAST, it’s on in the middle of the night.
Anyone, can we possibly get a listing across country as to grabbing these doc’s and posting them, or watching re-runs somewhere.
I’m not real good at this, but with a little guidance, I can do my part for the east coast. I just don’t know where to begin.
mkp651 11.12.08 at 3:42 pm
DancesWithPumas 11.12.08 at 3:36 pm
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Donation Details
Confirmation number: 81434409xxxxxxxx
Donation amount: $15.00 USD
Total: $15.00 USD
Purpose: Flowers for Mama
Contributor: mary (mkp)
kat in your hat 11.12.08 at 3:45 pm
So, my bet is that middle school age kids–>high school will be required to take certain special courses, and to volunteer for certain efforts that will strengthen O’s efforts.
I am just out of college and finishing grad school. I am still within the age frame of the mandated civil service Rahm is speaking of.
It would be a WTF mind splat if I was forced…FORCED to take basic military training for 3-4 months.
First of all, how would that happen. It sounds like they would make it last for a semester. Would that be the requirement for graduation? Or to get free college money? Or would it be the new PE course?
But more importantly: WHY? Why would the whole country of 18-25 year olds in school have to have military training?
For what? A draft? For what war? A US civil war? what.
mountainsong 11.12.08 at 3:50 pm
New Oleans Puma~~~Thank you for your understanding last night. It meant so much I copied them and printed those words so I would have those thoughts today. The feelings I expressed began about 10 days or so ago and have gotten stronger. And I still have them today. Recently I’ve made some pointed comments fishing for responses. And landed a couple fish. I always appreciate your depth, honesty, and spirituality~~your ‘awareness’ and I wish we could communicate outside the blog. My email, for PUMA purposes is mountainssong@gmail, if you feel like corresponding.
kat in your hat 11.12.08 at 3:51 pm
goofsmom #45:
Yes, this was to help with the costs of the educational program itself, but it was also the entire model.
The classes were marxist. No pledge of allegiance to America. The pledge was more like a pledge to the UN, and the classes taught about white supremacy and imperialism. Also, very mature…and early learning on sex, race relations, and collectivist philosophy.
DancesWithPumas 11.12.08 at 3:52 pm
(((mkp)))
mountainsong 11.12.08 at 3:53 pm
gmail.com, that is.
YWR1961 11.12.08 at 3:53 pm
NewOrleansPuma 11.12.08 at 3:08 pm
Dad and uncles in Teamsters…Left hung out to dry… You are correct, I can only go by what the people I talked to said. I do not know what any one was promised. You have the right to regard me and my comments in any manner you deem correct.
I am confused as to what you are rebuking me for, my comment that they ignorantly voted, without research, which the people I talked admitted, or my lack of knowledge about individual unions. Will you please help me see the reason for your rebuke so that I can understand what you are talking about?
NewOrleansPuma 11.12.08 at 3:53 pm
Dances: I can only afford in the words of some ole time language ” a spiritual bouquet for Mama” but as I said earlier I do send that with deep joy on your behalf, dear Mama, and it is filled with many bright flowers of prayer for your immediate good health!
DancesWithPumas 11.12.08 at 3:54 pm
(((NewOrleansPuma)))
Exquisite.
michelina 11.12.08 at 3:55 pm
kat in your hat:
Jesus, it gets scarier everyday with these people.
kat in your hat 11.12.08 at 3:56 pm
The idea was that everyone must participate in reciprosity. It’s why Ohead and all of his folks often say “we”…”we” are going to do XYZ.
“I.” is individual. These people say, no. You are not you. You are me. I am you. We are we.
HP Boston 11.12.08 at 3:56 pm
Confirmation Number: 7KT038869M533924J Placed on Nov. 12, 2008
Purpose Donation
amount
Flowes for Mama! $20.00 USD
Total Amount: $20.00 USD
goofsmom 11.12.08 at 3:56 pm
Flowers for Mama
Confirmation number: 5GT59902C7251270R
Donation amount: $15.00 USD
Total: $15.00 USD
Purpose: Flowers for our Mama Puma
kat in your hat 11.12.08 at 3:58 pm
What is wrong with mamapuma? Does sit have to do with exhaustion? People are so spent.
goofsmom 11.12.08 at 3:58 pm
kat in your hat
How did I miss that… damn, that is scary and helps explain some of the devotion from “O”s followers…
mountainsong 11.12.08 at 3:58 pm
michelina 11.12.08 at 3:38 pm Are you kidding? They can ‘track us’ within seconds, whenever ‘they’ want, and are.
goofsmom 11.12.08 at 3:59 pm
((mountainsong))
It is good to see you on…
Did you get my mail?
YWR1961 11.12.08 at 3:59 pm
NewOrleansPuma 11.12.08 at 3:53 pm
I have to get some work accomplished, so I am out.. but not becasue I don’t want to hear you out…Just have to get the job here accomplished…Have a great Evening!
goofsmom 11.12.08 at 4:01 pm
NewOrleansPuma
I would like to email with you. Mountainsong said you could help me with more of the churchs view of Michael.
NewOrleansPuma 11.12.08 at 4:02 pm
#65YWR1961: You have heard me out. Have a great Evening to you also, YWR, and I welcome your return, sincelerly so, as I do all who support PumaPac!
goofsmom 11.12.08 at 4:02 pm
NOP
eek… maybe even the churches.. hit submit without checking… darn!
mountainsong 11.12.08 at 4:03 pm
NewOrleansPuma 11.12.08 at 3:39 pm This IS being watched very closely and countermeasures are being implemented. Hence, my ‘intuitive’ feelins last night. This are moving almost too fast. I gotta go.
goofsmom 11.12.08 at 4:03 pm
bye mountainsong
NewOrleansPuma 11.12.08 at 4:04 pm
#66goofsmom: Please ask Murphy to send me your prowl email address and Murphy you have my permission to do the same with mine for goofsmom. Thank you, Murphy
goofsmom 11.12.08 at 4:07 pm
Murphy please send my email address for goofsmom to NOP.
Thank you NewOrleansPuma…
Notyoursweetie 11.12.08 at 4:07 pm
I still think it was the fundies staying home that determined the outcome – 6 million less GOP voters than in 2000.
Why is the media having a public Alka Seltzer moment?
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/11/12/i-cant-believe-i-ate-the-whole-thing-the-medias-hangover/
goofsmom 11.12.08 at 4:09 pm
Mountainsong
If you are still lurking Goofsdad said it is possible to “shroud” internet IP addresses through ISP and a system of firewalls. I’m not techno sauvvy so at best it’s complicated but it can be done so that you are not easily found
freddiebrown 11.12.08 at 4:11 pm
Just something interesting about Gov Palin. can also read the full story : http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/11/12/palin-in-obamas-administration/
WASHINGTON (CNN) — Gov. Sarah Palin said Wednesday that she would be honored to help President-elect Barack Obama in his new administration, even if he did hang around with an “unrepentant domestic terrorist.”
Gov. Sarah Palin says she will support President-elect Barack Obama and his new administration.
The Alaska governor said in an interview with CNN’s Wolf Blitzer that if Obama asked her for help on some of the issues she highlighted during this year’s campaign, such as energy or services for special-needs children, “it would be my honor to assist and support our new president and the new administration.”
“And I speak for other Republicans and Republican governors, also,” said Palin, whom Sen. John McCain chose as his running mate in August. “They would be willing also to seize this opportunity that we have to progress this nation together, in a united front.”
But asked moments later about some of the tough rhetoric she hurled from the stump, she said she was “still concerned” about Obama’s ties to former Weather Underground member-turned-Chicago college professor William Ayers.
“If anybody still wants to talk about it, I will,” she said. “Because this is an unrepentant domestic terrorist who had campaigned to blow up, to destroy our Pentagon and our U.S. Capitol.
Palin speaks out
Sarah Palin responds to her critics’ attacks with CNN’s Wolf Blitzer and then later on “Larry King Live.”
Today, 4 and 9 p.m. ET
see full schedule »
“That’s an association that still bothers me, and I think it’s fair to still talk about it,” she continued. “However, the campaign is over. That chapter is closed. Now is the time to move on and make sure all of us are doing all that we can to progress this nation.”
DancesWithPumas 11.12.08 at 4:11 pm
kat in your hat 11.12.08 at 3:58 pm
What is wrong with mamapuma? Does sit have to do with exhaustion? People are so spent.
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No diagnosis as of mid-morning. Mysterious Mama has a mytserious illness. Doctors are trying to figure it out.
DancesWithPumas 11.12.08 at 4:13 pm
goofsmom 11.12.08 at 4:07 pm
NewOrleansPuma….
send addresses to actioncenter@pumapac.org and I’ll accomodate you.
I kno wI already have your addresses, but this is just to make it “official”. Thanks
mylifeontheglist 11.12.08 at 4:13 pm
hi guys, what is our action plan re. Obama’s birth certificate?
http://mylifeontheglist.com/2008/11/12/barack-were-not-going-away-show-us-your-original-birth-certificate/
murphy 11.12.08 at 4:13 pm
goofsmom and NOP, will do.
brb.
tennaseepuma 11.12.08 at 4:13 pm
Anybody seen this yet? OBAMA AND THE WEB..
NEW YORK (AP) – Transition officials call it Obama 2.0 – an ambitious effort to transform the president-elect’s vast Web operation and database of supporters into a modern new tool to accomplish his goals in the White House. If it works, the new president could have an unprecedented ability to appeal for help from millions of Americans who already favor his ideas, bypassing the news media to pressure Congress.
“He’s built the largest network anyone has ever seen in politics, and congressional Republicans are clueless about the communications shift that has happened,” Democratic strategist Joe Trippi proclaims. The results, he says, “will be amazing to watch.”
Republicans say they’ll be watching for White House Web outreach that appears overly political.
“Hopefully, Obama will be a president for all Americans, not just the political supporters on his e-mail list,” said Republican National Committee spokesman Alex Conant.
(AP) In this Aug. 22, 2008 file photo, a view of the over head screen projected on the wall at…
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Obama’s people know they’ll have to extend their reach.
During his 21-month campaign, Obama built a list of 3.1 million contributors and over 10 million supporters who helped power his victories over Democratic rival Hillary Rodham Clinton and Republican John McCain. In addition to helping raise a staggering $660 million, the campaign’s Web effort reinforced his message and themes, responded to political attacks and created volunteer social networks that served as the basis for his field operation.
Obama’s team is determining how best to convert his army of online activists into a viral lobbying and communications machine. Staffers are reluctant to discuss specifics, but Obama clearly is poised to become the first truly “wired” president of the digital age.
For legal and privacy reasons, Obama’s campaign list must be kept separate from White House operations. Aides are figuring out if that list should be run through the Democratic National Committee or as a freestanding political entity that will eventually become his 2012 re-election committee.
But transition officials have already begun a new digital outreach effort, based on the campaign model, aimed at supporters and others interested in being connected to the activities of the Obama White House.
(AP) The motorcade of President-elect Barack Obama is stopped at an intersection in Chicago as he heads…
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The transition operation has a new Web site, , designed for anyone who wants to post a message of congratulations, offer suggestions for the new administration or apply for a government job. People are invited to submit their names and e-mail addresses, with the goal of creating a new list for the president-elect to tap when he wants to communicate directly about a program he’s promoting or seek help urging members of Congress to support legislation he’s proposed.http://www.change.gov
“Just imagine what happens when a congressman comes back to his district and 500 people are lined up for his town hall meeting because they got an e-mail from Obama urging them to attend,” said Thomas Gensemer, managing partner of Blue State Digital which designed Obama’s campaign Web site and change.gov.
Gensemer said to be most effective, Obama needs to make clear that his Web outreach efforts aren’t directed only at partisan Democrats.
“If you’re looking to build a community as president, the net needs to be cast a little broader,” Gensemer said. “If you want to bring Republicans along, you use the Web to say, ‘Work with me. Help me cut through the partisan rancor.’”
Such direct online contact with voters could also present a challenge for reporters covering Obama, since the new president will in many ways be able to bypass traditional media while also taking advantage of it to reinforce his online messaging.
“He can do a half-hour YouTube address every Saturday, addressing millions,” Trippi said. “The networks would never give the president that much television time each week, but the press is still going to have to cover what he says on YouTube.”
Aides say the Obama team will staff a robust “new media” operation out of the White House and plans a complete overhaul of the White House Web site to make it more interactive and user-friendly. On the campaign trail, Obama promised to use the Internet to make his administration more open, such as offering a detailed look at what’s going on in the White House on a given day or asking people to post comments on his legislative proposals.
Such freewheeling use of new technology also carries certain risks, as Obama discovered last summer when he signaled he would vote in the Senate for a sweeping intelligence surveillance law reviled by liberal activists. Thousands of angry supporters jammed his campaign Web site to express their outrage – a phenomenon that could easily be repeated when he becomes president.
There are also limits for reaching citizens not yet on the digital grid.
Peter Daou, who ran Internet operations for Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign, said her campaign’s Web outreach was limited by the fact that older and lower-income people – demographic groups most supportive of the former first lady – weren’t using the Internet for communication. Obama will need to find ways to reach those people, Daou said.
“We spent a year trying to bring these people to the Web, and President Obama and his team will have to do the same thing,” Daou said. “It requires a huge public relations effort, using more traditional communications efforts to invite then to participate this way.”
goofsmom 11.12.08 at 4:17 pm
(((Murphy))) (((Dances)))
Thank you…
murphy 11.12.08 at 4:17 pm
oops, dwp got it.
thanks dwp!
;-p
oh and you folks are too much. mamapuma will be SOO touched.
thank you very very much, and u too dances.
p.s. kat, she’s in the hospital with some mysterious breathing issue.
Right about now she’s probably breathing enough fire at the medical staff to make them either cure all lung ailments known to humanity in the next ten minutes or kick her out onto Storrow Drive on her butt.
kat in your hat 11.12.08 at 4:18 pm
NewOrleansPuma #44, yes, good analysis. You are correct across the board.
People are complacent. It’s like the worst of American stereotypes has finally served it’s purpose.
The fast food nation…getting Americans malnourished and sluggish, and the horrendous school systems, and the solitary–insular-mind-numbing depersonalization of technology. All of it helps to create a weakened America, one ripe for hostile takeover.
The “I don’t care” “whatever” “who gives a shit” attitude of so many Americans will be our downfall. It’s like people don’t take the time to learn about world history or political systems. And they just don’t care. They want to follow celebrities and mimic millionaires.
I dunno. One has to ask: why the American complacency? Feels like an mass orchestrated dumbing down effort. I’m just saying. I am not saying it’s anything intentional, but it’s what it is.
If I have kids? Outside, no tv, books, arts, see and do, think for yourself, you are the power of you, etc. I’d abhor raising a lazy, non-curious human.
NewOrleansPuma 11.12.08 at 4:18 pm
Mountainsong: I would be happy to correspond but I do not wish to do so by way of gmail as they scan every email one writes and when you write another email, there are ads that run next to that email referencing words or comments from the previous email. I wrote something early on about Joan of Arc and the next time I went there to do any email, there were all kinds of ads about her. If Murphy has another email address for you,then I ask you to ask her to send it to me at my prowl email. Is that possible?
Patty 11.12.08 at 4:25 pm
Hi Pumas. I just got back from the action link and can I just say wow!
Great job DWP and all other Pumas that have been involved with the action
page.
For anyone who hasn’t checked it out do so you will be impressed. It’s very easy to navigate through. There are plenty of prowls available too.
http://www.pumapac.org/alerts.html
DancesWithPumas 11.12.08 at 4:26 pm
Can’t access my personal email right now, but I did contribute money, enough to cover those who can’t right now, but are contributing healing energy and prayers.
Purpose: Flowers for Mama and Puma PAC keeps the change
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Petunia Prowl
or
Dialing For Dahlias
I’m calling it
PETUNIA PROWL:
I’m initiating a small fundraiser to purchase flowers for Mama, who is in the hospital at this time. Anyone who wants to make a contribution, please do. Nothing needs to be set up… just make a contribution as you normally would. Murphy will know how to deal with it, because Murphy knows everything.
If you use PayPal, you can make a notation that your contribution is for Mama’s flowers. My my notation was: “Flowers for Mama, and Puma PAC keeps the change”
PS I’ve been copying your well wishes to a blank document and will forward to Murphy at the end of today.
NewOrleansPuma 11.12.08 at 4:29 pm
#87Dances: Thank you, Dances…I love real on the earth flowers ..the giving and the sending!
goofsmom 11.12.08 at 4:30 pm
Dances
Thank you for organizing this for Mama.. we do love her…
freddiebrown 11.12.08 at 4:31 pm
tennaseepuma # 81
Thanks for posting the article Obama and the Web… is that a happy coincidence of words or a just an evil web that he is weaving.
Regardless, we can appreciate how formidable his army of wired followers are. Those who are not tapped in to his life line will not be saved so you folks better sign up and get your password to Messiah Obama’s wired web.
jenniforhillary 11.12.08 at 4:33 pm
murphy–can we send her cards/gifts?
TexasTigress 11.12.08 at 4:34 pm
Please tell mama that any flowers she gets could never be a pretty as she is !!!!!
I’ll donate to the flower fund here as soon as I can !
NewOrleansPuma 11.12.08 at 4:35 pm
Dances: If you are the one whowill be sending my prowl email address to goofsmom, please do not send anything out on gmail.for the reasons I stated. Because then my prowl address will be on gmail..and that I do not want to happen. Thanks, Dances.
Headclunker 11.12.08 at 4:38 pm
YOU ARE NOT GOING TO BELIEVE THIS EMAIL FROM THE BO CAMPAIGN
Apparently the DNC is in debt. Bwwwwwwwwwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhh!
xxx,
Our friends at the Democratic National Committee laid it all on the line to bring change this year.
We’ve been reviewing the books, and the DNC went into considerable debt to secure victory for Barack and Joe. It took unprecedented resources to staff up all 50 states, train field organizers, and build the technology to reach as many swing voters as possible.
It worked.
But it also left the DNC in debt. So before we do anything else, we need to help pay for this winning strategy.
Make a donation of $30 or more now and you’ll get a limited edition 2008 Victory T-shirt.
The DNC’s 50-state field strategy was crucial to our campaign’s success, as well as victories for Democrats up and down the ballot. Their organizing infrastructure allowed us to compete — and win — in states that seemed insurmountable just four years ago.
They took out substantial loans to make it happen. The DNC didn’t hold back, and now, neither can we.
You were there for this campaign when we needed to reach out to more voters and compete in more states. Now we’re relying on grassroots supporters like you to come through for this movement once again.
We’ll get to work transforming this country. But first, we need to take care of the DNC.
Please make a donation of $30 or more today and receive your Obama Victory T-shirt:
https://donate.barackobama.com/victoryshirt
Thank you for everything,
David
David Plouffe
Campaign Manager
Obama for America
NewOrleansPuma 11.12.08 at 4:38 pm
I hope Mama Puma is being tested for fungal invasions.
These are not looked for as often as bacterial ones and they can be hidden as a result…and hide out…Our doctors in this country tend to not look there first…I have experience with this and it can be a bad blind spot.
NewOrleansPuma 11.12.08 at 4:41 pm
#94Headclunker: These suckers. Pay down Hillary’s debt you creeps…Screw the usurped radical socialist Democratic Party and the radical Alynskyite amoral FRAUD they and you elected.
sue66 11.12.08 at 4:42 pm
Just to note that this blog is being monitored (we DO matter) there is a comment on an article on Huff Post about Penn being responsible for a Hillary blunder being blamed on Wolfson about Puma’s calling and asking for donations returned. I’m not spelling this out well but it bothered me to see this (snark-something) using info from our blog this way. I’ve wondered about it before but this is the first concrete evidence that this is going on. I read a lot of news sites and this is one of the reasons I do.
Headclunker 11.12.08 at 4:43 pm
I sure hope the BO email is true because that dirty SOB transfered tens of millions of dollars from the BO Victory Fund that went to the BO Campaign instead of the DNC as it should have. I did notice that there were some strange activities where the BO Campaign was paying out (not transferring) money to the state DNCs. Gee, I wonder if they broke any FEC rules?
George Soros apparently bought himself a DNC in debt. Maybe he should share some of his $9 billion.
kat in your hat 11.12.08 at 4:43 pm
I would just like to throw out a lil theory o’ mine.
I think women are conditioned to be self-sacrificial. In sex, in marriage, in work, in friendship and family, and politics, and thoughts, etc.
I think this weakens women exponentially.
I think socialism is a broad self-sacrifical political precept, and it will weaken everyone.
Self-sacrifice is considered courageous sometimes, which it can be (usually a man dying on the battlefield), but when it is a condition of an entire gender, it is power weakening, and it has become learned masochisim. Women are conditioned to struggle, and not truly be selfish and free.
Anyway, just wanted throw that out there. Women and self-sacrifice and putting it to national policy.
tennaseepuma 11.12.08 at 4:44 pm
My message to mama…
We are waiting for your quick recovery and you and Murphy are a part of us and we cant wait till you are back watching over us. I appreciate your strength and humor and resolve and determination and ……….everthing about you.
tennaseepuma 11.12.08 at 4:44 pm
everything…..
utahpuma 11.12.08 at 4:45 pm
Gee in light of the DNC’s financial problems, I would like to remind all Pumas, especially new ones, that you can request a refund of your donations made to the Obama campaign (if you made any) and/or to the DNC from this election cycle.
Let’s help them get their books in real good shape.
TexasTigress 11.12.08 at 4:45 pm
Headclunker
I forwarded that same e-mail to the nedia asking ” HOW IS THE DNC IN DEBT WHEN THE OBAMA CAMPAIGN RAISED MORE MONEY THAN ANY CANDIDATE IN THE HISTORY OF THE U.S. ?????
ARE THEY REALLY THAT HORRIBLE AT MANAGING MONEY THAT THEY CANT EVEN BALANCE THEIR OWN DAMN BUDGET ??????? “
kat in your hat 11.12.08 at 4:46 pm
Rather, I think self-sacrifice is a broad political precept of socialism, and it will weaken everyone.**
sigh
goofsmom 11.12.08 at 4:46 pm
sue66
We always have to be aware that there are those that want us to go away and be quiet.
Goofsdad has had attacks from the obamanazis about how his site registration was filled out. Seems Goofsdad used the address for the WH. Hehehehe..
Luckily Goofsdad is a pretty smart cookie when it comes to tech stuff.
tennaseepuma 11.12.08 at 4:47 pm
freddiebrown,
I see this as an opportunity for us to get on the ball and build a strong counter move and web base against his.
BrianH 11.12.08 at 4:53 pm
GBPuma;
It happens that the injecting matching capital and selling the ownership shares later is the model which has worked here and elsewhere in the past. It gets much more bang for the buck, and does not sideline the banks, which, after all, will be the continuing base for lending in the future. Most top economists much preferred this approach from the get-go.
Patty 11.12.08 at 4:53 pm
Sue thanks for the tip. Please link if possible.
I have had little obots try to out me as a puma, lmao at that because I’m proud to be a puma when I blog, I will never let anyone try to make me ashamed of being a puma. Shame belongs to the obot sheeple.
scarlet 11.12.08 at 4:55 pm
#45
Pay attention to this everyone…This must be stopped. Vigilance here as it goes forward to every detail and I only hope this is not done through Executive Order, but is attempted to be put through legislation. If that is its course then we must have a group to track every detail and word of this legislation from Committee all the way through .
This must be stopped.
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I think the National Service Act has to be stopped first. It has already been introduced by Charles Rangle. If this bill passes, then it will be easy to pass another bill involving children in “voluntary” work.
More info here: http://pumapac.org/forums/breaking-news/ posts 65-67
There already is a grass roots movement working for passage of this bill. It is Service Nation – Caroline Kennedy and Colin Powell’s wife are part of it.
The bill was introduced to the House and is now in the Subcommittee on Military Personnel.
Members of the Subcommittee should be contacted with your opposition or support and your own legislators.
stoney42 11.12.08 at 4:55 pm
Flowers for Mama -
$20.00 #31S53702Mxxxxxxxx
Mama – Take care – we love you – Stoney42
kat in your hat 11.12.08 at 4:56 pm
Ah can see my mind wants to write. So, off I go–bang out a few pages. See all you pumas later.
Woodie 11.12.08 at 4:57 pm
Obama has a coin coming out check it out:
for his ceremony on the 15th
https://www.obamacoins.tv/flare/next?tag=ED|SM|GO|TM|
Woodie 11.12.08 at 4:58 pm
Jan. 25th meant to say …
BrianH 11.12.08 at 5:01 pm
A coin now? A new name, then: O’Hubris.
“Whom the gods would destroy, they first make mad!”
Bring it on!
NewOrleansPuma 11.12.08 at 5:03 pm
Katinyour hat: Socialism uses as does communism and all collective mentality political structures the language and the ideals of goals previously engendered by religious ideals but without the inclusion of the acknowledgement of any reality beyond the human. Thus, its use of self sacrifice, the good of the community, the all to one and one to all according to need, and every other example of similar goals and language. But what it lacks is precisely the base upon which these traditional religious ideals had and have and that is the acknowledgment of the right of free will choice of humans given them by a power beyond the earth. The energy of this spiritual dimension and the reasons for it and its source do not exist in these structures and as a result they fail for transformation of the earth is not something that can be accomplished solely on the basis of the human will to do so. Transformation of the human condition is and must always be an engagement between the individual and a God first and then from that out into the community, because what we lack in our human powers is precisely the power to transform on our own what all of us suffer from: human flawed condition. Socialism asserts that the human being has all the power to do what he or she wishes to do. History tells us differently and heroes and saints emanate not from this flawed secular view of man and women but from the conscsious free choice of humans to engage in a transformation that they on their own can not accomplish by themselves. ONe does not have to belong to a formal religion to engage in this dynamic but one must acknowledge in one’s own way that such an engagement is in fact necessary. Every religion on the face of the earth has shown this to be true, except of course in their perversions, as the radical Muslims have done to their own.
murphy 11.12.08 at 5:07 pm
ordering the flowers now — thank you so much.
oh, and now get yourself to a reeducation camp!
take it upstairs!
turndownobama 11.12.08 at 5:10 pm
BrianH 11.12.08 at 4:53 pm
It happens that the injecting matching capital and selling the ownership shares later is the model which has worked here and elsewhere in the past. It gets much more bang for the buck, and does not sideline the banks, which, after all, will be the continuing base for lending in the future. Most top economists much preferred this approach from the get-go.
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How does this compare with the approach Bill Clinton’s Treasury used with their successful bailouts of Mexico and some Asian situations in the 90s? (The Mexico thing ended up making a profit for the US.)
bellecat 11.12.08 at 5:11 pm
Hello Murphy:
As always, great artwork above and great posting.
To all those involved in the Prowl/Action: Who has standing?
*Thank you so much*.
I will be making it my personal goal to spread this around; though I have a very tight work deadline for the 21st, I’ll be catching up when I can.
PUMA LUV and HUGS!
NewOrleansPuma 11.12.08 at 5:14 pm
Kat in hat: And I should also add not just every religion on the face of the earth but every culture prior to the modern era and I mark that era for the purposes of this issue: the early twentieth century and the appearance of Marx and some of the first materiallistic existentialist philosophers. who bodied out in other disciplines his exorcism of a spiritual dimension regarding the human being.
Woodie 11.12.08 at 5:19 pm
This country’s economy would not have been so robust if it was not for all the women who were inspired by women’s lib to go to work as well as
raise their families!!! That was 30 yrs. ago…..
And quite frankly, Palin should have told them this. Hey you guys the media need to can it, you know why, because us women fight in wars right along side the men, therefore we should have equal rights and certainly more respect than what you are showing me right now….that’s what she should have told them. Those SOBs
slyt2 11.12.08 at 5:24 pm
I just got back on WHAT’S WRONG WITH MAMA (haven’t gotten through all the post started bottom to top) she is in the hospital???????
gojoyknocks 11.12.08 at 5:30 pm
$20.00 for mama coming snail mail. For flowers or organic fruit basket. Get well soon.
Woodie 11.12.08 at 5:53 pm
Boycott,,i’m not watching CNN, MSNBC, ABC CBS, FOX all of them can go to hell!!!!!
mylifeontheglist 11.12.08 at 6:40 pm
woodie, the only cable news I watch is FOXnews (it’s the most balanced), I am boycotting the rest. Here’s my letter to Newsweek:
http://mylifeontheglist.com/2008/11/10/my-letter-to-newsweek-not-with-my-money/
Murphy, what are our action plans about boycotting MSM. Surely we need to let them know who own them.
catsarepumas 11.12.08 at 7:27 pm
I posted the Rahm Emanuel video on my new word press blog. Thank you to those that linked to it and spread the word about making it viral.
Comments are welcome if anyone wants to take a look.
catsden.wordpress.com
I am not trying to take traffic away from our home here; just looking for input from fellow PUMAs.
Debra in Midwest 11.12.08 at 8:44 pm
I’ll start by saying I’m glad this site exists. I truly believe that our country only benefits by more people becoming interested, involved and invested in our political process. I say this although I vehemently disagree with the ideology of this site. Usually I just read what’s posted and it certainly is food for thought. What troubles me is that I can’t shake the feeling that you hate me…and others like me. In decrying how you felt dehumanized during this campaign, you dehumanize me..by calling me and others like me names like “Obots”. In speaking out justifiably against sexism, you minimize the influence of racism…referring to it simply as a “card” to be played. Completely ignoring the fact that those who discriminate against blacks are often those who also discriminate against women. I guess it leaves me wondering if there is any common cause between us? Is our joint opposition to discrimination in any form and our quest to find our political voice enough to overcome our disagreement over who should be President? Or does that disagreement trump everything? Is there a possibility for rapproachment or is your rejection of me and those like me total and complete?
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