Happy Veterans’ Day, and Get to Work!

To all military pumas….thanks

I also want to say some of my best leaders and commanders in my military service have been women. I am currently serving here in the UK with a female commander. It is just to unfortunate America doesnt value there serve. Sarag shouldve been recognized a hell of alot more than obot in this years election. Instead she was vilified.

Adding my sincerest THANKS to all who have served!!!!

God bless America!!!!

Media quick list :

To: hardball@msnbc.com; caffertyfile@cnn.com; campbellbrown@cnn.com; cnn.onair@cnn.com; cnn.feedback@cnn.com; comments@mclaughlin.com; Cavuto@foxnews.com; hume@foxnews.com; niteline@abc.com; LouDobbs@cnn.com; hemmer@foxnews.com; headlinenews@cnn.com; Hannity@foxnews.com; gretawire@fox.com ; writemalkin@gmail.com ; elrushbo@eibnet.com;

Hey – I don’t take credit for any prowls pumas do – I am just the prowl whip or the Tail Twister (as I like to say )

Get it ? Tail Twister – TT – ahhh never mind – i think it’s only funny in MY head – Oh well – it was good for me

HP – Great idea – can you post his e-mail and I will add it to the list , or , better yet , copy and paste the list with Charlie on it ???? Please …..

Hey Murphy
I like the cut of your jib and would like to receive your newsletter

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TexasTigress 11.11.08 at 9:39 am

HP – Great idea – can you post his e-mail and I will add it to the list , or , better yet , copy and paste the list with Charlie on it ???? Please …..

TT I am not sure how to add to list without screwing it up.

OK: Everyone have at it. I need your help on this letter to Congressman Broun:

Rep Paul Broun
Email form http://broun.house.gov/email.shtml
Phone: (202) 225-4101
Fax: (202) 226-0776

Re: Obama Elects “National Security Force concern

Dear Congressman Broun:

I have just read the AP Article on your concerns regarding Barack Obama’s proposition on a National Security Force.

Thank you for your courage to speak out on this issue. I, along with the Political Action Committee I am a member, PumaPac.org, share your concerns. We are in the process of preparing an information piece on this issue for National distribution.

Congressman Broun, the majority of our PAC are life-long Democrats, who supported the McCain/Palin ticket in protest of the Democratic Party’s selection of Barack Obama as the nominee in this election.

Sir, we need your help and support, as well, as we are up against a powerful and well-funded political machine. Our party has proven, in our opinion, that being in complete Party control of our Government is more important than protecting our beloved Democracy, which we strongly believe is in jeopardy under the ideologies of a Barack Obama administration, which were staunchly denied during his campaign, but are now coming to light, as a reality.

Please be advised that, if there is any possible legal way to stop Barack Obama from taking the Office of the Presidency, that is our intention. We believe that the general public was unaware of the massive voter fraud in many states, Obama’s history of radical affiliations, and his highly suspect, and in some cases, clearly illegal fund-raising practices.

The other issue of concern is Obama’s recent formation of a 501c-4. His use of such an “under the radar structure,” that is clearly being used to organize and garner financial support in furtherance of his questionable policies, needs to be made public.

While many of these questionable issues preceded his candidacy, he is now clearly integrating his ideologies and lack of transparency into his Presidential Administration Plans – as noted by his recent proposed “policy” announcements by he and his transition team.

Sir, we have every intention of nationalizing all of these concerns. Please advise immediatly on how we may assist you in your efforts to inform the public. Any suggestions or contacts you can provide us in filing complaints with the appropraite officials would be greatly appreciated.

You may contact our Director of PumaPac.org, Darragh Murphy at murphy@pumapac.org.

Very truly yours,

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

PumaPac.or member

Could not e-mail Rep. Broun from the address given above. Will call.

This is a good read from Allegre’s Corner regarding the misdirected anger towards Hillary.

Alegre :: When Hate and Revenge Overrule Reason and Results
Worse yet are the claims that she’s gone back to her “abuser” in her support for the top of the ticket. Believe it or not, people who once supported Hillary’s historic run for the White House are now comparing her to a battered wife who is returning to her abuser and asking for abuse. When I read that I was beyond disgusted – and for a brief moment I felt the same rage toward those who are attacking her now. This latest and lowest of attacks on Hillary is right out of GOP playbook – it could have come from Rush Limbaugh or Sean Hannity. Face it – this is as low-down as any of the attacks coming out of the extreme right’s noise machine folks, and yet we’re hearing this garbage from so-called feminists who are so pissed that Hillary backed someone they hate more than words can describe, that they’ve turned vicious on her.
Hate – what a powerful and destructive force. Hate for the man who beat Hillary to the White House this year has turned her former supporters on her to the point where they’re claiming she’s weak or calculating, instead of the public servant we all know her to be. How did they reach this point? How can they justify what they’re calling Hillary now?

More importantly, how did Hillary go from the most qualified candidate with the best ideas and the strongest record, to our Joan of Arc – our standard bearer in all things feminist? She never took on that role in this campaign and I honestly don’t think that’s anything she ever wanted to take on. Why in the hell should she walk away from her one chance to bring relief to people to make some of her former supporters happy? I’m sorry folks – that ain’t gonna happen.

It’s as if these people can’t let go of the anger and hate long enough to see why Hillary backed the top of the ticket. They demand that she be their standard-bearer of feminism and rage – that she leave the party she and Bill helped build up and start shouting from the outside. All the while, they’re forgetting that Hillary has never been that. She didn’t get into this race because she’s a woman – she got into it because she knew in her heart (just as we know) that she was the most qualified candidate out there. That she could get results if given the job.

These demands that she throw away her chance to make a difference are (IMHO) just as sexist as anything else that’s been thrown at her so far. Because she’s a woman she’s expected to walk out – to give up her life’s work to appease others. She’s expected to don the cloak, grab our banner and ride into battle on a suicide mission to make a point. Not her point – our point. I think we all know that’s not going to happen – there’s too much work to be done yet.

Even after losing the nomination in one of the most sexist and hateful campaigns ever, she was able to set aside her personal feelings about what happened and keep working for those who feel invisible. She’s still fighting to give a voice to the voiceless and a small bit of power to the powerless out there. She wants to get RESULTS for the 47 million uninsured. She wants to get that equal pay law signed into law. She wants to stop and reverse global warming with green collar jobs. She wants to stop the foreclosures. She wants to get all that done and more and she knows the only way to do that is to be the best Senator she can be while building support for her causes from within the party (and I have no doubt that she’ll get it done). Those who are attacking her can’t seem to get their hate-filled heads and hearts around the fact that she won’t get ANYTHING done if she’s on the outside of Congress banging on the glass doors.

Rage doesn’t get you anywhere when it comes to helping others. Reason and a well thought-out plan do. And Hillary’s got all that going on and more. She’s got more than enough to deal with in her fight for equal pay and health care reform. The last thing she needs is this betrayal and rage from people who once supported her in our fight for what’s right. She gets enough of that shite from the extreme right and from those who would try to block her efforts from within her own party.

This isn’t about how hurt we all feel. This isn’t about how we think she sold us out on our values and goals. People are putting their goals and values on her and they never have and never will fit. She’s about results. People are dying (like my dad did) for lack of health care. People are dying in Iraq when they should be brought home to their loved ones. She could give a shit about someone’s hurt feelings and I’m right there with her. There are more important things to worry about than someone’s hurt feelings, dammit. There’s too much work to be done yet and chasing our tails over things we can’t change is a waste of time and energy.

Besides, getting results and helping people are the best kind of revenge – a dish that’s always best served cold.

Drudge has it posted as well …

Veterans Day is called Remembrance Day in Canada. Never been here before for it. Really big deal. There is parades to the city’s cenotaph and everything stops for two minutes at 11:00. I never noticed much ceremony at home but will be watching it here. I have a loner wheelchair so we may go to the cenotaph for the outdoor ceremony.
Now down to business. Prowl done. Is their anyone else we can send the same letter to?
KarenWI, I hope the nose is ok today after your slip up yesterday. I should be able to get a walking cast in about two weeks. This is good because I can’t use two crutches with the arm in a cast too. Just sitting here with my one finger typing and hoping typos are minimal. I really checked the letter before I sent it out.
What I have been doing some of is placing comments on MSM sites. Just to let them know PUMA’S are still here. I hope the info connects with people who read it, but I get the PUMA part in first.

DWP , WBD and Murphy – you ROCK !!!!!!!!

oops, sorry Murphy

Which way did they go George… which way did they go?

While I was typing, I got two phone calls, my security system went off twice, I spilled my coffee down the front of my nightshirt, and when I got up to clean the spill, I dropped my glasses and stepped on them – all in the timing of a perfect storm .

Can we leave the late night, nightmare stories for AM Prowls???

Sleeping with the enemy, night after night is kind of getting to me!

I don’t even live in Minnesota, but what’s going on there is making me NUTS…

http://hotair.com/archives/2008/11/11/did-hennepin-county-blow-the-ballot-transmission-process/

FOUR DAYS?!!! FOUR DAYS?!!!! They had four freakin’ days to fix this. It would’ve taken a few minutes for each machine, and yet they chose not to do it? I don’t know how big Hennepin County is or what the Rep to Dem balance is, but COME ON! Someone is doing this stuff deliberately!

Oh, and great news. Only 207 more ballots to swing toward Franken and this election will be over!

I am also doing SLY’s prowl to the media about the Heritage Foundation demanding and FEC investigation of Obama’s campaign Finances if anyone would like to join me , here is the info ;

“If Americans are ever to trust the electoral process again, a full investigation and audit of Obama and ACORN are an absolute necessity,” the foundation declared in an essay issued today.

http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/heritage_audit_obama/2008/11/04/147551.html

“A Bulgarian is among the 118 people, who made illegal donations for the campaign of the US Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama, an investigation, conducted by Newsmax website and a private investigative firm headed by a former CIA operations officer showed.

Under federal law, only U.S. citizens or permanent residents may donate to federal political campaigns. It is illegal for the campaigns to accept money knowingly from foreign donors.

The Bulgarian has signed himself as Stamen S. and wrote his address in Sofia. He donated USD 170.”

http://www.novinite.com/view_news.php?id=98470

TexasTigress:

Are we just sending the links (Heritage Foundation demanding and FEC investigation of Obama’s campaign Finance) or are you doing a cover letter?

alright I’m back what did i miss do I need to do something right now or should I go back and read all the post to catch up..

WBd – I just sent the links with a statement to the media asking them to please investigate and report ….

#12 native girl – prayers going to you, your mother and whole family. Devastating news. Please take care of yourself and your mom. Be strong and remember, your PUMA family is here to listen and support you.

TexasTigress 11.11.08 at 10:32 am:

OK. Right behind you. (Is that you in front of the Fighter Jet?)

nativegirl #12. My prayers are with you and your mom.

sue66:

Just copy the link by pressing your keyboard keys: Ctrl and c at the same time.

Then come back here and place your cursor in the comment box where you want the link to go in your post and press your keyboard keys: Ctrl and v at the same time.

sue66:

To Copy Link: Ctrl and c at the same time.

To Paste Link: Ctrl and c at the same time.

(The “Ctrl” key is right below the shift key on either side of the ketboard.)

Copy and Pasting 101
http://pumapac.org/geek.html
or
highlight text
right click
select copy
place cursor where you want to paste to
right click
select paste

The zip code map is wonky then
okay so
3 and any other 4 numbers, I’ll presume

Nope map isnt that wonky….top line was cut off
Zip Code: 31503
WAYCROSS
GA – Georgia
Waycross, GA

wontbackdown – WBD – hello to you too

Happy Veteran’s Day all. Thank you for your service, antifish.

Any other veterans here today?

Hia Dragonfly!!

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greenfun,
thank you for posting allegre’s piece.
Dr Long infuriated me with her article about Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton. As another Puma mentioned in an email to me, Dr LOng was on TV at least 5 times and never once mentioned caucus fraud… Dr long had her part in owearefuckednow’s “win”.

USMC birthday was yesterday – so to all of my fellow , hungover Devil Dogs – WOOT !

Dr long had her part in owearefuckednow’s “win”.
LOL Dances. I love this variation

TexasTigress – you are a devil dog too? My brother is a Marine, three times deployed, one Bronze Star! Yes, I am proud of him. Thank you, TT, for your service.

One thing I could never ever get over with Owearefuckednow – he had time for a photo op in Germany, but did not visit our wounded troops. That just burns me.

Murphy, I sent you an e-mail about an uncashed check to Pumapac.

hume@foxnews.com
failed

jenniferforhillary

I hear you. Are you in the military too? I ask because of the statement about putting your life on the line. I am sorry I don’t know if you have already shared that. I don’t get to catch up on the blog anymore. I remember when we first started, I read every post and comment.

As for HRC, I still love her. I do think that many people struggle with whether to fight from within the system or fight on the outside. Some really believe that they will be more effective within and will not be co-opted. I suppose I am not angry at HRC because she is only human and a political survivor. You expected her to have more inner strength to fight from the outside, but she is too entrenched in the political games.

This is my take on it. I don’t feel the same way you do, but I don’t think you should be attacked for feeling that way. She was our hope for change, and she let us down.

I do think that we can’t spend too much time being angry and attacking women like HRC and LLong, though. We have to channel the anger into productive speech.

IMHO

Good luck, Headclunker!

Good morning, Don’t know if this was posted, but find it interesting that O and his crew have already continued their practice of not keeping their promises:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/11/11/tech/cnettechnews/main4591721.shtml?source=RSSattr=Politics_4591721

wontbackdown
isn’t there usually a copyright notification that includes…no reprinting blah blah without permission?
Usually publishing a snippet along with link is the way to do it without copyright infringement / violation.

Did you know that the front page of any major paper in this country today does not mention or focus on Veteran’s Day and the veterans but the front pages have the POSER posing as President…………I FIND THAT, as a veteran and an American, BEYOND OFFENSIVE…..and to do the transfer of power to Obama or anyone even before the votes have been counted or the EC electors have voted…….never in our history has this every happened no matter what the situation, during the depression, during any war, never before have they started to transfer power before the EC has voted nor the popular vote has actually been counted and certified…………..this entire thing is a FRAUD!!!!!
And on this Veteran’s Day, and until Obama absolutely presents verifiable proof on the issues of his birth certificate, African citizenship, and Indonesian citizenship, and the many other unanswered questions still pending, I shall consider Obama as an Enemy of the State and a Usurper of the Constitution of the United States.

Dragonfly 11.11.08 at 11:16 am:

Do you know the answer? Can we “legally” post a story from the AP as long as we provide their link?

Hey Dragonfly!! Good to see you and you’re welcome!

Let’s all face it. There’s a lot of finger-pointing going on and circular firing squads out the ying-yang after this election, but the truth is George W. Bush is to blame for the results. Unlike us, most Americans weren’t glued to every political development and could have cared less. They didn’t know that Obama was selected because they weren’t paying attention. They were willing to overlook (or in most cases, ignore) all of Obama’s negatives because all they knew is that George W. Bush has been a disaster for this nation in every conceivable way and, identifying McCain with him, they voted accordingly.

My best friend and I spoke for the first time in months the day before yesterday. I was shocked to find that she knows absolutely nothing about Obama, yet she fell totally head over heels for him. This is a very intelligent woman whom I’ve known since 1988 when we met in the service in Germany. Until recently, our political views were totally in sync. She wasn’t even a lifelong Democrat, having switched parties in 1998 after being a lifelong Republican. Our relationship took a downward spiral over Hillary. For some reason, and it could have been latent Republican tendencies, she despised Hillary. I found this deeply troubling coming from a woman who I’ve listened to for years blaming men for every evil on earth and pontificating on how much better the world would be if women were in charge. Although she could never give a substantive reason as to why, she was adamant that Hillary should not be president. Needless to say, we had many heated arguments and our friendship deteriorated to the point where we were no longer speaking.

Our most recent conversation was interesting. She actually listened and didn’t scream at me and call me a racist when I explained to her my fears of an upcoming Obama presidency. I think I may have scored some points, but only time will tell.

This is the contact page for the RNC.

http://www.gop.com/Connect/ContactUs.htm

I will be e-mailing them and asking them to support Rep. Broun instead of crawling under their desks and crying or joining in on bashing him.

The problem is, the head of the RNC may have no idea what a National Civilian Security Force is and that Obama called for one in Denver in July 2008. Can’t assume he will know what I am talking about.

I will email by Republican congresswoman, too. She has never been helpful before and doubt if she even reads my letters. I sent her a letter asking her how she voted on the Global Poverty Act (passed the House by voice vote) and wrote back telling me her position on energy. Huh!

gypsy rebel 11.11.08 at 11:29 am:

Thanks gypsy: trying to find info on that myself at AP right now.

#38 JoanneGreco,
your forum is now listed on http://www.nobamanetwork.com

DancesWithPumas

I swiped this from a message board. They copy and past copyrighted articles all the time. Hope this is helpful.

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not in the military, but I know people who died in Iraq.

just an american girl, born to jews, trying to find her way.

i remember one of my mentors as a child telling me to pick my fights. only problem is when how do you turn a blind eye to evil, and how do you live with yourself.

and I agree, I don’t want to discuss hillary anymore. Murphy said it best when she said Hillary did what she could do, and the rest is up to us. I will NEVER discount one thing Bill and Hillary did for this country GOD BLESS THEM and yes the tears are falling they were the BEST ever…I just think they drank the kool aid.

I am just getting ready to prowl. And I am in a new mood today. I will not worry, or cry (too much), or obsess. I will read, I will act, and I will fight. WE WILL WIN. This is our duty. Oh, and I will not wallow in sorrow because that allows them to win. I will LIVE each day proud that I am a figther, rejoicing in small victories, and good friends. PUMA power is real and imaginary–it lives in your heart and it can be seen in every letter, every debate, ever prowl, and every small victory…

YES we can is our slogan. WE must start reclaiming what they have stolen, and what the are trying to steal. WE are Americans god damn it, don’t fuck with us!

gypsy rebel
Thank you so much… prayers, I know, are helping her and myself.

JenniforHillary:
I agree with you completely about Hillary Clinton. She should have stood her ground and she should NEVER EVER have campaigned for that thug. I e-mailed her as much, but of course, got back the standard “thank you for contacting me.” She couldn’t have actually read what I wrote, or she wouldn’t have been thanking me. I still have a lot of anger at her, but dwelling on her failed campaign is a waste of energy. If she suddenly stood back up and walked away from the Democratic Party to fight for American women, I’m not sure how I would react. Part of me would be overjoyed, while another part would still be angry, and very unwilling to trust. Oh, well, the Hillary Clinton thing is over. There are plenty of tough, smart women in this country and we need to get behind them. Getting a woman into the White House, as something other than a wife, or one of the servants, is going to be like running a gauntlet. Remember in the movie “Last of the Mohicans,” how the main male character struggled through the line of Hurons, being beaten and abused the entire way? That’s us, that’s Clinton, that’s Palin. It shouldn’t be that way, but it is. The question is, are we going to do it? Or will we scuttle back to our safe place, like Clinton?

Griffin

Good analogy:

“running a gauntlet”

DancesWithPumas 11.11.08 at 11:06 am

hume@foxnews.com
failed

special@foxnews.com this is the one I use for Brit Hume

Gypsy Rebel: Thanks.

“just an amazing american girl, born to jews, trying to find her way.”

airforcehusker,

You’re right of course about getting in their face, but given the demographics where I live, I have to choose my battles carefully.

On that note… Yesterday evening as my son was driving home from work, an AA man pulled up behind him and began blowing his horn. My son looked in the rear-view mirror and noticed the man was shooting birds at him and mouthing something he, of course, could not hear. When they pulled up to a traffic light, the man pulled very close to my son’s bumper and began revving his engine. As my son continued toward home, it became obvious the man intended to follow him. Not wanting to bring the man to the house, he tried turning off onto a side road. The man followed still blowing his horn and shooting birds. My son eventually turned around at a school, still being followed, and headed home. He called me on his cell phone and explained what was happening. I told him to come home and I would meet him outside with my gun. Apparently, the man got wary when he saw my son making the call because he kept on going when he turned into our neighborhood.

Why did this happen? Well, my son has a McCain/Palin sticker on his back windshield. They can’t even win gracefully…

I am from Columbus, GA. moved to AL few years ago. My daughters still live there. Brother in law is a delegate there. One good thing working for Saxby Chambliss is that many of the folks that voted last tuesday did so to get That One in office. They are less likely to vote in the run off. We can all HOPE he wins!

http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/11/09/bring-back-the-bull-moose/

By Judah Benjamin, Guest Author
OK, Folks,

Some of us are former (?) Democrats, some of us are moderate (?) Republicans and some of us are neither. We all have differing views on subjects like George W Bush and US Foreign and Domestic Policy. These views are not going to change any time soon, if ever, and there is no point arguing about them. We do agree on certain things, the Constitution must be preserved and defended, Washington needs to be cleaned up, the economic problems of the Country, Governmental and otherwise need to be addressed and mitigated and our freedoms must be preserved. We all agree that Obama is going to impact negatively on all of these concerns. Most of us would agree that both major parties are broken beyond all reasonable hope of repair and that Obama is a symptom of that. Were the country not in the equivalent of a state of clinical depression Obama would not just have won the popular vote, which he did (though how much of that vote was fraudulent we will never know). The biggest single factor in his win was the fact that approximately 15% of Republicans did not vote at all. In effect it would not have mattered how many Democrats crossed over, that short fall screwed the pooch because there was no way enough Democrats were ever going to cross over to offset that.

So if you are a Republican you should ask yourself if you are in the right party and if you were/are a Democrat you already know you weren’t.

It has happened before in the history of the nation and the result was the formation of a new party, one of which was the Republican Party, so don’t say it cannot succeed. The Bull Moose Party got pretty close to success too and many of us would have voted Bull Moose back in the day. We need to start the construction of a new party right now to take back the Congress and the White House for sanity.

there is much more to this article.

http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/11/09/bring-back-the-bull-moose/

No one can mess with antifish
rock on sister

slyt2 What can we do? Seriously. I want to know.

airforcehusker

I honestly believe they fear us – That One is only the President Elect – if all of the fraud, etc. surfaces honestly, there could be a problem.

Also, If anything between Rezko/That One should EVER be made public by the FBI, then there would be more serious charges. Unfortunately, I do not have any faith in the government these days!! FBI agents vote also!!

That One’s alliances with anti-American groups should have been investigated at the beginning………. corrupt government system!

halligan 102

In Birmingham AL and in Milton Fl there are parades and all kinds of things.

Tonight there is a dinner at my church with a guest speaker who has been a chaplain to the men and women deployed overseas.

Of course, this is a military town, so we will be one of the last to give up on a parade, I think. NAS Whiting Field is our base, and we love our military here.

GOOD NEWS: Senator Stevens of Alaska has been indicted and Governor Palin gets to appoint a Senator in Stevens place. Palin can appoint HERSELF. Wouldn’t that be ironic. Oh, how I wish she would do that. Obama watch out!
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

If she can appoint herself quickly then she will have seniority over all the new senators even if it were one day that extra really counts big time.

Go Senator Sarah Go

murphy 138
Thanks, Murphy !

hey yall

well i think im gonna get a parttime second job so i can stochpile cash faster…i have a strong feeling this time next year will be a whole new situation in the usa

TXRepGirl 11.11.08 at 12:10 pm

slyt2 What can we do? Seriously. I want to know.

Sorry didn’t see you post there. One thing we can do is not accept it I guess, email the FEC and demand that they audit him, i have contacted Heritage Foundation about it they are demanding the FEC AUDIT Obama maybe if we can email them too (FEC) more pressure they will do it check out post # 41

Bush Irked by Leak on Private Talk With Obama Over Trade, Aid to Automakers
Administration aides say President Bush is unhappy that his discussion Monday with President-elect Barack Obama was leaked and cast as a horse trade between signing a second economic stimulus bill in exchange for congressional passage of the Colombia Free Trade deal.
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Ok, now we know he cant keep his mouth shut, again. He gets his first meeting with Bush, and he wants more bailout money,oh yeah,
he’s really great for the economy! He wants to talk with Iran, but doesnt want free trade with columbia. hmmmm…this guy doesnt even
know the smart questions to ask, that is the problem.

Murphy, of course all of those “creeps” who Obama hung with are now
feeling free to come out, that proves, he never threw them under
the bus, and they knew it.

Believe you me, there are 58 million or more people in this great country who cant stand the new president elect…I remember Kissenger saying how Palin showed her intelligence by asking smart
questions, he didnt say what they were and neither did she. That is
what wise people when they get free time for council, they learn
and then they keep their mouth shut because it is privileged information. NOt Obama, or his people oh no, they just run out
in the public and spout it all out. Is anyone starting to see
this person doesnt have a brain and we are stuck with 2 lawyers.
We all know the lawyer jokes, We have been screwed royally, and no
I will not rest easy a day he is in office, period.

136 Flasunshiner

LMAO! One testicle! HAHAHAHAHA

that would explain a lot

Hey Ario

yep, it’s time to hunker down. I am trying to figure out exactly how simply I can live.

Murphy

That joke was posted on GretaWire last nite too!

Dances

I think we need a Historian for PUMA. Re: Murphy’s post #137.

Saxby Chambliss is facing a run off in Georgia against his democratic challenger.
we need to help get him elected to insure that bobo doesn’t get his filibuster proof senate.
The runoff is set for Dec, 2
http://www.saxby.org/Home.aspx

gypsy rebel 11.11.08 at 12:46 pm
Murphy
Dances
I think we need a Historian for PUMA. Re: Murphy’s post #137.
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gypsy, great idea!!
Thank you for taking teh lead on that project.
If there’s anything I can assist you with, please email me at
actioncenter@pumapac.org

Just wanted to say one thing to all “Merchant” Marines:

My father was a Merchant Marine and he always seemed somewhat embarrassed – like he wasn’t a REAL Marine.

Not long before he passed away we talked about his Marine service and being on a merchant ship – even traveling to China. He told me that other Marines didn’t consider them in the same “Class” as “fighting Marines.

Then I watched a PBS documentary on Merchant Marines and discovered that my father was correct – that in Corp circles, Merchant Marines had never been credited for the support services they had long provided all of the branches of the Military.

What I learned was that not only were they responsible for supplying all of the food and ammunitions for our armed forces, but the travel overseas was dangerous. Many merchant ships had been attacked because they were supply ships to the units in the field. Eventually, they had to be provided escorts of other ships to get through.

When I actually saw what life was like on those merchant ships and the pride those young men had in doing their part in support of their “brothers” – and regardless of what branch their cargo was supplying – I wished my father could have seen it. He was so young at the time. From his perspective on the ship – he just never saw himself as defending his country or risking his life like “Real Marines on the ground.”

I saw how many lost their lives on those Merchant ships and saw it from an entirely differently angle – I am always amazed at the courage of any soldier – no matter what branch, division or rank they serving in.

SO, A SHOUT OUT TO ALL MERCHANT MARINES!

CNN obviously has cast my blogs off their space LOLOLOLOLOLOL

Oh, and where is Michelle the Obomba today, nowhere to be found.
I thought she was for the military wives, but on Veterans Day, she’s nowhere to be found. She must be sittin up there in her home
piggin out on some tasty food. huh. Well, she was nowhere to be found at Ground Zero, I just dont think she likes these military holidays or anything to do with our National Security.

airforce

the link didnt work

Palin said in her interview with Greta she can do more for Alaska as Governor than Senator.

Here is Palin’s written interview with Matt Laur. Within the link there are two interview video’s also.

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/27648153/

PUMAS

GBPuma has compiled a list of “Voter Fraud –Obama”
and doesn’t have time to develope an action. Sooooooo
if WBD, or some other Puma would like to reveiew the list and develope an action(s)/prowls…
please go here to review the list:
http://pumapac.org/prowlstalk.html

1st one in the left hand column.
Thanks.

Hi all, I have someone I met online who wants to join but said she got an error message. Murphy, I’m going to e-mail you with her addy. She goes by the name Kahleeka

airforcehusker 11.11.08 at 12:33 pm

Murphy,
i would suggest that if you want to own a gun please find a good range in your community and go there and be honest to the people and say you never shot a gun, owned a gun etc. Find the one person that you are comfortable with and have them go over the basics, Do not buy a gun until you find the caliber you are comfortable with shooting with. They will walk you through the process.
In the end you will be a knowledgeable gun owner, who is trained, and can handle their weapon. It will be a good experience for you and i am sure you will come back to this board months from now telling me that i was right. You will find a tight knit group of folks and probably make good friends of a different politically background but in the end you will find that we all have the same belief and that is the love of country and protecting our freedoms.

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This sounds good to me too Murphy. Shooting range in My town lets sign up and be ready. My husband has a permit always gets it renewed but has never owned a gun. It is time. I told him I want one now.

Murphy (and anyone else thinking about gun ownership),

The advice here from airforcehusker and snowtigerredux is spot on. I would also like to add my own personal philosophy on parenting and gun-ownership. As some of you know, I had an incident early in my son’s life where I found him sitting in a crib playing with a loaded .22 revolver while visiting my brother. This was so shocking and devastating that it prevented me from owning a gun until my son became an adult.

My son, who is now 24, and I have discussed this at length and come to an agreement that small children should not know that their parent owns a gun. If they know, natural curiosity will make them search for it. The gun should be hidden in a place where a child could not possibly find it and it should be under a lock of some type.

This is just my personal advice so please don’t take it like I’m trying to tell anyone what to do.

but missus the used. part…lol.. just campbellbrown@cnn.com it always comes back undeliverable.

CONTACT THE FEC COMMISSIONERS TO DEMAND AN INVESTIGATION INTO OBAMA’S CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTIONS !!!

Here are 4 of the 6 commissioner’s emails . Sorry if this has been posted – I’m in between thunderstorms ..

CommissionerBauerly@fec.gov; CommissionerPetersen@fec.gov; CommissionerWalther@fec.gov; CommissionerHunter@fec.gov;

Welocome back Texas Togress…
in case you missed it… and are INTERESTED (hint)
PUMAS

GBPuma has compiled a list of “Voter Fraud –Obama”
and doesn’t have time to develop an action. Sooooooo
if WBD, or some other Puma would like to review the list and develop an action(s)/prowls…
please go here to review the list:
http://pumapac.org/prowlstalk.html

1st one in the left hand column.
Thanks.

YAY! I was going to write up an action on this today. Glad it’s already here! I’m just going to add the actual youtube video of Obama’s civilian army clip along with AP link to all media. I’ll also pass this prowl on to a few other sites for greater participation.

Here is the main page.

http://www.palin4pres2012.com/

antifish 171

frightening and great advice. Kids are very curious. Some of my close friends feel that having a gun just makes you more dangerous, not any safer.

My family hunts, and so guns have always been a part of my life. My father taught us how to be responsible with guns. To anyone who is considering first time ownership, please check out airforcehusker’s and antifish’s advice.

DWP 178

I am praying for you.

Purchased a 356 Magnum in 1985, after ebing chased into my home. Took three months before I could even take it out of the box. Another month before I could load it.
It’s locked away, unfired. Makes me ill to know it’s in my house.
Times have devolved in such a way that I’m thinking this might be the time to take HP and Airforce’s advice and move on to the next stage.

All this talk comparing Obama to Adolph Hitler, the ‘worst’ despot to ever mar the face of the earth. The ultimate creep!
Gas it ever occured to anyone that,one day, a man far worse than Hitler ever thought of being might come along? And could that day be here now? We shall definitely see, wont we?

Dragonfly 11.11.08 at 1:24 pm
DWP 178
I am praying for you.
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Thank you.
and
::::::::::ThWAP::::::::::::

Actually, although I appreciate the sentiment, I don’t like people to pray for me…
I think only “God” knows what I need.

mountainsong
The real scary part is WE KNOW early childhood affects mental development. Not to mention his ‘mentors” all though his life.
Phsycologically, he is very close to Hitler.
Now he is pushing his anti-gun agenda.

Please quick someone answer is it common practice for a campaign to be audited after a election???Or is it only if they feel there is cause for it?? Need to know ASAP…

DWP 191

I know – I was being ironic because I picked up on your JW reference. I can’t stand when they come to me and act as if they know better than God does for me. Or whatever I choose to call the Generative Force of the Universe.

No offense meant or taken!

Good advice snow, i was just putting some simple basics but i think you covered the rest. To everyone out there and i may sound like a broken record but get involved, If you dont own a weapon simply find a good range and ask for lessons and go shooting. If the only thing you do is find a way to defend yourself or your family than guess what you are going to be light years ahead of everyone else who thought the government was going to protect them and remember this is the obama government, nuff said on that,
One final thought remember the LA riots, and katrina, people who were armed protected their families and property, cops simply ran and left people to defend themselves.

I don’t ‘pray’ for Dances , I just give God nightly warnings about her activities

airforcehusker 11.11.08 at 1:30 pm
danceswithpumas
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Where in CA will you be relocating?

It’s not the gun itself… it’s the world of negative potential, responsibility, a myriad of possible scenarios, the tainting of and adjustment to my newer world view. For me, owning a gun represents the all of the above, and more.

TT at 201

LMAO!

TexasTigress LOL Nice to see you again

I have two guns – both inherited. A 22 rifle from a great-uncle, and a double barrel shot gun from my father. But – I have no ammo.

Murphy: I never thought I would be a gun owner, but…a little more than a week ago I applied for a permit and last Friday I bought one, which is safely stored. I’ve never fired a gun and have thought to go outside and shoot it but…it’s not loaded and I don’t want to hit or scare my deer friends.

MURPHY –
A week ago we bought a gun – it is not mine specifically.
We have a lock – it looks like a bicycle lock. If you have kids, it would be a good idea to consider this. I am going to take lessons to be more comfortable with it.

It is better to have and not need it.. than to need it and not have… Reminds me somewhat of a bank loan. If you have money, they bank will give you a loan. If you have no money, the bank won’t give you a loan.

#23 greenfun 11.11.08 at 10:05 am

This is a good read from Allegre’s Corner regarding the misdirected anger towards Hillary.

Alegre :: When Hate and Revenge Overrule Reason and Results

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Thank you Greenfun for posting this comment and I agree with the sentiments.
Senator Clinton can’t make changes or contribute to the overall good for the country working from the outside of power.

Prowl.. done to the FEC.

mountainsong
SHoot, building a fully automatic fire arm is easy. If you have the tools and know how to build a receiver you can build the whole thing.
You know that and quite a bit more. Obviously.

Night husker.

Hey freddie!

love the bank loan reference. which is why I ordered my rescue package (retirement bailout). I am on the way to being debt free and back in the black. Uncle Sam will hit me hard for it, so I already gave him half.

Please do SLy’s PROWL -

CONTACT THE FEC COMMISSIONERS TO DEMAND AN INVESTIGATION INTO OBAMA’S CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTIONS !!!

Here are 4 of the 6 commissioner’s emails . Sorry if this has been posted – I’m in between thunderstorms ..

CommissionerBauerly@fec.gov; CommissionerPetersen@fec.gov; CommissionerWalther@fec.gov; CommissionerHunter@fec.gov;

admin “I never thought I would be a gun owner, but…a little more than a week ago I applied for a permit and last Friday I bought one, which is safely stored. I’ve never fired a gun and have thought to go outside and shoot it but…it’s not loaded and I don’t want to hit or scare my deer friends.”

scare my deer friends . . .

CLASSIC!
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Sometimes your Murphy, sometimes you are the admin sockpuppet.
Why did you decide to buy a gun? Are you afraid?

Prowl done.

I am a PUMA living in the middle of O country here in ne PA. I’m surrounded by the bastards (sorry, I never curse, they just keep slipping out these days). Any other PUMAs out there from PA, especially the northeast?

MURPHY – I’ll be busy getting our house ready for winter over the next few weeks, but after the holidays, I would like to help with fundraising.

(((((FREDDIE))))) Got your email – thank you – hearing from you was comforting! Let’s keep in touch.

Fascist Marxist Dictator.

This Congressman is saying EXACTLY what I have been afraid of, and what I have been screaming about for near a year now. It hasn’t just been a hunch all this time, it’s hundreds of hours of reading and researching and having multiple multiple arrows pointing at what is too hard to believe but what is right the hell in front of everyone’s faces. It may take Obama years to do it or it may happen overnight, but I am telling you this guy is a *hard core* marxist, megalomaniac, filled with hatred for our nation and our culture.

-Total control of media–enter more O-propaganda
-Obama’s civilian army
-Banning guns

You can guess what next.

I am telling you. And if you don’t believe it, do some research instead of listening to people who say, “Nahhh, that could never happen, he’s really like THIS, not THAT.”

NO. NO. NO.

And if these people knew anything anyway, they would know all about the people who raised Obama, and who boosted him, and all the different organizations he was involved with, or his “religion” for two decades, etc. Or just what he says, c’mon. Entirely Marxist. BIG red flags. I know people casually say this about democrats all the time: socialists/ communists blah blah, but this is it.

From my mid to late teens until my earliest 20′s I<— had a marxist and socialistic worldview, and even slightly anarchistic. I am just warning you that he is not the benevolent type.

snowtigerredux 11.11.08 at 1:35 pm

antifish
SOrry anti. I didnt see your post on children and guns.
i have to caution against hiding a gun from kids. They have the most amazing ability to get into places where things are hidden.
Never looked for your Christmas presents as a child?
Plus if you hide it too well you will have a hard time getting to it if you need it.

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snowtigerredux ????? Are you formerly snowtiger007????

If you are may I suggest to you that you reoffer to all those Pumas who have just recently purchased a gun to download and read you
“SHOOTING TO LIVE WITH THE ONE-HAND GUN”

It is a very interesting read and may protect these newbies…

Thank you, snowtigerredux

mountainsong
I respect your pov but dissagree.
If someone acts in a manner that requires me to defend my self or another, with a potentially lethal action, I have a responsability to do so.
Not everyone has the capacity to act in such a situation and allowing a predator to continue on will inevitably, harm more people.
I remember years ago watching some talk show and an actress , I forget who, said “I would never use a gun on another human being, even it meant being raped. I would rather be raped than kill another person”
Thats nice. I wonder how the next victim of the rapist would feel?
Not equating you ,Mountain, with that. I pity the poor fool that attacks you, Something tells me a rapist would be out of business in short order, whether you were aremd or not.

I have emailed the commissioners. Thanks TT, sly, and WBD

TerryDo
Yup. Thats me.
And if anyne wuld like a copy of
“Shooting with the one hand gun” A classic or Jeff Coopers “Principals of Personal Defense”.
Just e-mail me at
Snowtiger007pp@yahoo.com
I will gladly send a copy.

Let’s make PUMA the new Hillary….

Let’s stand up and FIGHT FOR THIS COUNTRY.

Let’s DEMAND that THAT ONE BE VETTED RIGHT NOW.

Let’s DEMAND that THAT ONE’s FINANCES BE CHECKED RIGHT NOW.

Let’s DEMAND that THAT ONE’s VOTER FRAUD and VOTER REGISTRATION be CHECKED RIGHT NOW.

Let’s DEMAND that THAT ONE’s BIRTH CERTIFICATE BE CHECKED TO MAKE SURE HE IS EVEN AN AMERICAN.

And HELL YES go take a gun course, buy a couple guns, couple thousand bullets, get a couple years of food/water supplies, learn to to and GROW organic vegetables/fruits, read the Constitution, and let’s GET AMERICA BACK ON TRACK ONE AMERICAN AT A TIME….

I am getting MORE BITTER by the minute, but I am going to channel my anger/sadness into ACTION. ACTION. If we all do this we will win…and right now winning is a matter of surviving.

I would love to continue but, I have spent more time here than in planned (as usual).
So everyone have a good day and keep feeding the PUMAS>

And your welcome terrydo.

Yea listen to TexasTigress -Please do SLy’s PROWL -

CONTACT THE FEC COMMISSIONERS TO DEMAND AN INVESTIGATION INTO OBAMA’S CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTIONS !!! See post # 227 I can not get anywhere without the help of Puma’s one voice (email) won’t do it, you can type about guns while you are sending out emails. I can not stress how important this is.

DWP 178

I am praying for you.

Me too…:twisted:

kat in your hat – preaching to the choir, my friend.

It is all there, and I have tried to warn my friends. They think I’m one of those bitter rural people clinging to my gun and my religion.

It’s time to hunker down. My tv is off.

;twisted;

jenniforhillary 11.11.08 at 1:52 pm

NOTE to PUMA PEEPS:

HILLARY AND BILL HAVE NO POWER. NOT ANYMORE. ASK ANYONE IN WASHINGTON. PEOPLE DON”T WANT TO EVEN BE SEEN IN THEIR OFFICES OR TALKING TO THEM.
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I do not believe that for one moment.
Firstly the Clintons are astute politicians.
Secondly, they would not have been campaigning for THAT ONE wihtout guarantee, you better believe that.
Thirdly, she is and will always be a force to be handled with!

So do not count them out so easily….

I’m getting ready to go out of town and tuned in to do a quick read of the blog today. What do I see but an over the top rant by Allegre that is every bit as over the top as the women who are ‘trashing’ Hillary Clinton. How many times does Allegre use the word ‘hate’? That is ridicuous. There is lots of disappoinment and anger against Hillary’s decision to support BO, but hate, please! The excuse Allegre uses for Hillary’s decision to support BO is that if she stayed inside his campaign, she could influence the agenda. Well, how’s that going folks? Don’t get me wrong, I’m not angry at Hillary’s decision, but I am waiting to get some idea of what she was really thinking when she made her decision. In the meantime, I’m not going to hold it against her that she did not fall on her sword for us. Stop the over the top nonsense from both sides so we can move forward. Geesh!

Thank you to Anti and all our retired/active military for having to courage to protect our country.

To whom it may concern:

I’M ON YOUR SIDE, GODDAMNIT!

Dragonfly THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

jenniforhillary
Thanks but no thanks on your spin on Hillary. I have heard you before and I don’t agree with you so you don’t need to try and keep spinnin’ your yarn on me. Don’t think you are so informed and the rest of us are just poor little disillusioned sheep. Give me a break.

DWP at 258

what she said

It really pisses me off!

I actually don’t want to talk about Hillary anymore. It makes me sad. I’m going to put her in my closet of friends I hope to have in my life again.

I’d much rather talk about Murphy or Dances or any woman doing anything. I’d like to thank our armed forces for risking and giving their lives for us. I’d like to say that I have so much respect for women in the military I don’t have words for it. And, I’d like to say that

Re: Hillary

I think this is a complicated issue. I understand how Billie Jo feels because I too have great admiration for her, or maybe I should say had. I’m not really sure what I feel right now. I didn’t expect her to throw herself on the sword for me or any of us. However, I did expect her to do it for herself.
I think I fall more in line with Jenni. It breaks my heart to not trust and admire in Hillary but I feel she degraded herself in all of this.
Everyone can attack me for my opinion but you have to look at things how they are and not how you want them to be.
One saying that always holds true is “It is what it is”.
So, my point is I’m disappointed with her because I wanted her to stand up and say “Hey f**k you BO and all of the other sexist pigs out there.
I also feel like Jenni, Hillary knows how dangerous he is and yet campaigned for him. That doesn’t sit well with me.
JMHO

Michelle Obama wasn’t always an admirer of Hillary Clinton, but last Wednesday the soon-to-be first lady dialed up the former first lady for pointers on protecting her two young daughters from the media maelstrom of the White House.

“Michelle may not have loved the senator, but she always respected how the Clintons raised Chelsea,” said a person familiar with Clinton’s end of the call. “They need to talk. There just aren’t too many people who have shared that kind of experience
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My my my well dear Hillary tell Mo to take the kids and herself and go play IN TRAFFIC!!

billijo…and what makes you an expert? Have you spoken to someone who has information regarding the power or lack of power of the Clintons at this point, or is it merely conjecture? I am asking because as you tear me down I want to understand is your weapon hope or actual information…because if you have actual information I would like to know…

oh, and in addition to NOT being on the panel re: health care could you point to another example of her ‘power’ in washington at this point???

I really REALLY hate when women tear each other down for NO REASON. AND, for the record, holding women ACCOUNTABLE is not tearing them down it is simply holding women accountable. If we CANNOT hold women to the same standards as men, we become our own worst enemy.

Ok, pumas, I’m going to spread around the prowl. See you all later on.

And Happy Veterans Day.

Oh, and here:

“Most popular entry on this blog: “Obama will pay for my gas and mortgage” http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/11/11/most-popular-entry-on-this-blog-obama-will-pay-for-my-gas-and-mortgage/#comments

(pfft)

Thanks Sheila…I think many agree with us, but perhaps are scared of Alegre and Billie Jo…

I am never scared of such things…never.

TEXASTIGRESS:

Obama’s civilian army:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tt2yGzHfy7s

DragonFly:..and another personal memory of the women who stayed behind: My brother was born on December 13, 1941..one week after Pearl Harbor..my mother said she was sitting in a movie downtown…get this..Sgt York, the story of the famous ole southern boy who was a Congressional Medal of Honor winner in the first World War..when they stopped the movie, turned on the lights and announced that Pearl Harbor had been bombed…one story of the courage of all women who stayed home and worked or volunteered throughout that war..she served as a Civil Defense Leader as did my daddy and she collected cans, made aluminan foil balls, recycled rubber and ever other manner of materials to send back for use in the building of machines, etc…and planted as did so many war vegetable gardens, and suffered graciosly as all did, in my view, the deprivations of rationing…

CAN WE DO NO LESS DURING THIS SERIOUS TIME AS THESE OUR BELOVED MAMAS AND DADDYS AND UNCLES DID…? FIGHT. PROTEST.
WE SHALL…AGAINST ANYONE AND ANYTHING. THAT DARE TO ATTEMPT TO DILUTE THIS COUNTRY AND EVERY ASPECT OF OUR FREEDOMS. FIGHT TO HONOR THE GREATEST GENERATION AND WE , YOU SHALL BECOME TRUE AND HONORABLE CHILDREN OF OUR LOVED ONES WHO TAUGHT US WHAT FREEDOM IS AND HOW WORTHY IT IS TO PROTECT.

Murphy: Thanks for the prowl.

NOP 285

your comment gave me chills – the good kind. Thank you for being such an inspiration! I always love to read your comments.

okay I must be stupid I cannot find an email address for Rep Broun from Georgia and I cannot get the form on his website to work for me. Will someone point me in the right direction please? and thank you.

and yes it is because everyone else is UPSTAIRS!!!! Joke’s on me!

slyt2 11.11.08 at 12:14 pm

antifish you know what I had that happen once (not over the election) but a crazy person pissed off thinking I cut them off or something crazy like that anyways after I realized they were going to continue to follow me I drove to the police station got out of the car and said you got something to say come on we will go in here and discuss it with the police as I continued to walk towards the door, He drove off fast as heck.
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And, of course, you got his license number and reported it?

Duh.

On a happier note ….. Robin Williams as The American Flag, circa 1982 – enjoy:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_L1vLv84vs

greta