Step One: Grow the Pumasphere

Hey Murph,

Here’s a link to what will be happening in SF this weekend. We’ll be at SimoFish’s house on Friday to make signs and then we’ll hit the road on Saturday. I heard Market Street was closed again do to protests so this issue is not going away. SimoFish went to the Mormon Temple in Oaktown yesterday as well. If you are in the area please join us or participate in your city.

Power to the Pumas

I had posted that USA Today would have an ad today about BO’s bc. Well, update, it’s s’posed to be week of Nov. 17. Dang! Don’t know, but ya’ll can check out the site yourselves. Going to do homework. bbl

http://www.wethepeoplefoundation.org/UPDATE/misc2008/Obama-USA-TODAY-ad.htm

DancesWithPumas 11.10.08 at 6:32 pm

CJ
http://pumapac.org/forums/

I wish you were here, too.

http://protest8sf.wordpress.com/

snowtigerredux I thought YOU had all the ideas. Good luck with all that. LOL

hello to all pumas i read this blog everyday. i am a black woman over sixty and believe me i know the problem with aa people being against gays.there are a lot of gay men but they marry to keep their secret. please look at the aids epidemic among black people.

mountainsong
Lol. Only a few idea I toss out for every now and then in between delivering pizzas.

Like i said before I don’t think it can be done but, I would love to hear how the dems here plan on doing it.
Remember I am an independent.

wontbackdown 11.10.08 at 6:42 pm
FORWARD BY:
LinkLibrarianLillian
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LOL! silly puma

This deserves repost.
PUMAbear 11.10.08 at 6:37 pm

Obo wants to make “false” claims during elections a “crime”; ie any oposition to his “message. There exits no such law in american history. Look out people we playing with fire. Check out change. Gov. Oh Iforgot the sedition act.

I was just going to post a comment on snowtigerredux’s comment 127 in the thread downstairs. Snow suggested that we branch out to other organizations that we are involved in and push the PUMA agenda. If the PUMA agenda remains simply defined (say-1. Political reform 2. Media reform 3 Equal rights for all ), then we can weave those concerns in other organizations. Then the PUMA message becomes integral into all facets of life without reinventing the wheel. GLBT PUMAs could try to pull those groups together. Someone in media or law could try to weave the PUMA message there. We also need PUMAs in every Congressional district (if possible), then we can petition our reps and be listened to. This way we are all doing things in our comfort zone and the PUMApac acts like a clearinghouse or an umbrella group for all of the other areas. At the risk of making everyone vomit, that is how ACORN was organized and why it was so successful.

DancesWithPumas 11.10.08 at 6:46 pm LOL!!!

The revolution eats its children first.
Obo will have a night of long knives very soon after taking office.
Count on it.

snowtigerredux 11.10.08 at 6:45 pm
This deserves repost.
PUMAbear 11.10.08 at 6:37 pm
Obo wants to make “false” claims during elections a “crime”; ie any oposition to his “message.
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Would that it were everyone told the truth only.
For every accusation or inference, or claim, one would have to spend thousands in legal fees to vet every utterance before any mention of fraud, or lies, or anything else.
It could be interesting though… unconstitutional, but interesting.

wontbackdown 11.10.08 at 6:50 pm
Murphy:
Sounds like we need to schedule a wake: We’ve lost Lillian.
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No, I think it was a stroke… expect many typos in future links… should be interesting.

DANCES
yes I know that site it’s for our blog but you had posted the prowl site and said check forums….
I got confused.
Thanks

Dances…I wasn’t sure if you were kidding or not about Lillian. Is she in the hospital?

CJ
The link I posted for you is for the new and topical puma pac forums. These forums are interactive, just like the one we are on now.:
http://pumapac.org/forums/
The other link is for our Action / Resources Center, which is static:
http://pumapac.org/action_center.html

zephyr 11.10.08 at 6:58 pm
Dances…I wasn’t sure if you were kidding or not about Lillian. Is she in the hospital?
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Lillian is fine. She went into momentary shock when it was suggested that she develop the bibliography for Murphy’s upcoming book.

Murphy – While we are at it and while we know you spent a lot of time redoing this site… how can we hang on to good information and research so that it is not a daily “water under the bridge ?”

There must be a way to separate the serious blog from the friendly non serious blog. Sometimes, some of us lacking time, might want to get to the meat of serious matter without scrolling past hundreds of short casual chatter.
It is impossible to discuss anything at length about a notable post if it gets buried in a few hours among other chatter.

In case any one feels like I am an ungrateful person for bringing this up because you have been slogging over hot HTML codes, I think we need to get our basic infrastructure in place. Just have to hash it out. If you don’t want to give away the passwords etc which I don’t think you should…. however, just so you know… you can change your password anytime you want and if you assign someone to build it for you, they can turn it over to you and you can upload it yourself. There are many ways where you don’t have to feel like you will be compromised or someone will hijack your website.

CJ
Prowls are posted by pumas at the Actions forum, and, when they are sent to the Action Center, they are posted there as well. When theyre posted in the Action Center, they are usally all inclusive, self contained, i.e. include a brief introduction, a sample letter, and email addresses.

PUMAS: How do you feel about the three main areas of focus? Huh? It’s precisely want I wanted us all to focus on. Yes, I like. Those topics will grow and develop to have sub groups and it will refine. You will see.

Danke.

So do we write the media and flood them with email and letters and get them to air about “the army that will haunt us”….conservative radio and talk shows?

snowtigerredux
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registered Dem here….voted McCain…but I would have voted for Joe Smoe instead of Obama.
One thing I didn’t do is vote a write in for Hillary for that went to Obama..or against McCain.

@ #46
It’s precisely wHAT I wanted** grrr. I type like a maniac.

Oh, and one more thing. Consider this: pumas, when you have a concern…something you want to work on…it’s time that you either team up with someone else here or do the digging yourself to provide the rest of us with the action, so we can help you…and get started on it.

Definitely continue to drop ideas, but come up with a plan too.

freddie brown #42

Add pages? Have a different page for every big issue?

Pumas Unleashed
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I wish we all would spend our energy on this…just keep flooding the courts and to whom it may concern about Obama’s birth certificate…this is where our voices can be heard loudly along with the attorneys and Wiley S. Drake Sr and others……..

kat.. what post has the three things?

Snowtiger,
I see your point. I have really started to open my eyes and ears.
I’m listening to other points from other parties with an open mind.
But I must admit, I’m still a bleeding heart.

kat in your hat 11.10.08 at 7:10 pm
Oh, and one more thing. Consider this: pumas, when you have a concern…something you want to work on…it’s time that you either team up with someone else here or do the digging yourself to provide the rest of us with the action, so we can help you…and get started on it.
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Also, we need to make use of the Breaking News and Action forum… TinFoilers section too.
See “FORUMS” and sub-headings, in the upper lefthand sidebar.

Has anyone seen this video before:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wIa2m09Nd6E&feature=related

DancesWithPumas: Ya, I gotta reprogram a lil to remember to go up there.

Can we call it the “attic”…lol. Upstairs…downstairs…dungeon…need an attic.

guys ?murphy ?? am i being naive in thinking these lawsuits actually have a chance considering they are filed from within the dnc (or some of them anyway )and by electors ???
someone please ??

CJ…

I try catching as much as I can for reference at PUMAS UNleashed. It makes it easier to keep track. I go back and file any new developments back on the Topic again… I treat it like a huge filing cabinet living in the unlimited wiles of the ether..

We used to do the same thing during the summer when we drove around in convertibles with the top down…flicking our cigarettes in the wind saying (un PC) “The World is our ashtray!” (sigh) what did we know…:-)

I’m with you on this one too!
How disgusting that obie stole her health care plan (part of it anyway) then kicked her in the ass with TeddyKarmaIsGonnaGetYa!
Let me know if there is a prowl on this one. I am not feeling well and following the blog.

Pumas Unleashed 11.10.08 at 6:20 pm

Dances..

Count me in for bombarding Teddy with e-mails and faxes insisting Hillary head up the Health Care Committee!

Alohapuma #239

On Pamela Geller’s sight this morning. Apparently there is a procedure to debate the electoral votes (in a given state) before the US Senate. The basis of a challege would have to be that his citizenship status has not been verified by the proper authorities.
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woo-ho! Count me in for “that one” too!

I’m on the Prowl list .. whenever you’re ready!

Dances, ah nah, I didn’t mean officially. I just forget to click on the forums up top.

Howie stepping down from DNC………….bing, another bites the dust!
Next is Nancy and Donna…

Murphy and others: Regarding Sheila Blair: Please go to the following link for a taped interview that Charlie Rose had with Sheila Blair on October 21, 2008. Also when one gets to this blog site, go to right side of page for links to other information about this woman.

Research regarding this person and others who are mentioned for possible appointments is needed. If one does not know who the players will be, one knows little about what the outcomes or plans will be. If one knows little about that, one knows little. If one knows little, one knows not enough about whom and what to protest going forward in this regime.

http.//paul.kedrosky.com/archives/2008/10/21/conversation_wi_1.html

OK here is part of a E-mail I got from NOW, the old guard in the women’s movement, largely ineffective because they can’t join up with anyone who isn’t ideologically pure and because they are not focused on todays needs and goals but instead worry about an endless list of problems. This is a list of the committees they have that they need people on… * Political Action Committee (PAC)
* Young Feminist Task Force
* Family Law Advisory Committee
* Combating Racism Advisory Committee
* Mothers and Caregivers Economic Rights Advisory Committee
* Disability Rights Advisory Committee
* Equal Marriage ad hoc Advisory Committee
* Global Strategies and Issues Advisory Committee

To many obscure issues when women still are not represented in government and still don’t have equal pay. Also we now have reproductive rights lets put worrying about losing them on the back burner. So I am looking for a womens group who focuses on no more than three things, these things should be relevant to all women, gay, straight, mothers, nonmothers, married, single. My choices are
1. Media. Images of women in media. The fact that 90% of basic cable channels are aimed at men and the 10% that are aimed at women have few female viewers because the content is cheap, mostly conceived and produced by males and is meant to appeal to male advertisers who want to sell their products to women. To deal with this we need consumer choice in TV so we can dump these sexist channels and stop subsidizing them. There is also a major problem in the recording industry both with misogynist music and with the need of female “singers” to perform in underwear or nude or not have a voice.
2. Misogyny in the Democrat party and to a lesser extent in the Republican party and also in our country’s political institutions.

3. Equal pay for equal work.

We can review these on a yearly basis. But no energy diversion into issues which may be compelling but do not benefit all women. I haven’t found a group yet so If you folks find one tell me! I have hope for The New Agenda.

Patty
You should stay true tooyur beliefs.
Look I figured out a long time ago that both philosophies, the real ones not the manipulated garbage we get, have mostly the same goals. Mainly just different ways of achieving those goals.
Liberal and conservative are not cuss words.
I dont trust the repubs any more than I do the current crop of dems.
Difference being the dems are now in charge and are even more extreme than the repubs.
Be true to yourself.

MKfromLA 11.10.08 at 7:31 pm
DWP #38
Goog golly miss Molly, you sound like a programmer.
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OK…what does SCFP mean?

Anyone remember who the Hillary delegates were that refused to worship Obama. I believe one or two were stripped of their delegate status.

I would start by contacting them and see where they now stand.
We need to reel in some folks already inside. If you know what I mean.

“We can review these on a yearly basis. But no energy diversion into issues which may be compelling but do not benefit all women.”
Not all women watch TV.

Patty: I may have to start that group. But it will take me awhile as I am working full time and under pressure to settle my Moms estate. I also am in Seattle which means way out of the way from federal politics. But I think I would get a lot of people who would sign up.

Snowtiger I am true to myself. I just never realized how close minded I was until this election. I was the democrat that thought all republicans were racist and didn’t care about poor people. Now I am listing to them with a new set of ears. Because now I am accused of being a racist and not caring about poor people. I’m not joining them I’m just not thinking they are so evil anymore.

PUMAS UNLEASHED Do you have a link to the electors filing lawsuits?

Yup BillieJo.. when everyone is ready to go..let me know. They’ll think it’s snowing at the fax station!

Here is my e-mail address:

Tequila81618@yahoo.com

Hey Pumas this a funny joke.After numerous rounds of ‘We don’t even know if Osama is still alive’,

Barrack Hussein Obama has now been telling everyone he will capture Osama Bin Laden when elected.”
So, Osama himself decided to send Barrack Hussein Obama a letter in his own handwriting to let him know he was still in the game. Obama opened the letter and it contained a single line of coded.
MESSAGE::370H-SSV-0773H
Obama was baffled, so he e-mailed it to Howard Dean.
Dean and the DNC and his aides had no clue either, so they sent it to Joe Biden.

Joe Biden could not solve so it was sent to the FBI and the CIA
Eventually they asked John McCain and his Staff to look at it.
And within minutes McCain’s Staff e-mailed Obama with this reply:
‘Tell Obama he’s holding the message upside down’.

Dean and the DNC and his aides had no clue either, so they sent it to Joe Biden.

Joe Biden could not solve so it was sent to the FBI and the CIA
Eventually they asked John McCain and his Staff to look at it.
And within minutes McCain’s Staff e-mailed Obama with this reply:
‘Tell Obama he’s holding the message upside down’.

Eventually they asked John McCain and his Staff to look at it.
And within minutes McCain’s Staff e-mailed Obama with this reply:
‘Tell Obama he’s holding the message upside down’.

Murphy, I have an idea for a “song’. Its called “They’re coming to take me away”. Its from the 60’s. And it might be appropriate if Obama’s minions form the new security force.

oops sorry it double copied

DancesWithPumas . True not all women watch TV but most do and TV is taken as a true reflection of our society all over the world when in fact it is just what ever the men who run the media think. The only choice consumers can make regarding it is to subscribe and subsidize all of the channels or take none of the channels. As well as the problem that the MSM acts like gate keepers to keep any new programmers from bringing their product to market. And another problem is the vulnerable(elderly,sick,young and unsupported) watch more TV than anyone else.

RUn even if they are inclined.
BTw I bought a typing program so I can practice.

tillerylakelady:

LOLOL!!

Someone said Actions/News/Tinfoil. That sounds good, except maybe one or two more: Chatter/Everything.

Now if these were organized by tags instead of by being whole separate files…. Like, someone has a few minutes to relax, clicks on Everythign which includes all tags. (Like the old way of everything going into one file.) Reading along you find a news post with tag “News: Michelle pregnant”. That’s so interesting you click on that tag to instantly bring up all other items with that tag including Actions, jokes, Tinfoil baby shower items, etc.

Also sometimes I feel like phoning regardless of the subject, so it would be good to have a tag for ‘Action: phone’, ‘Action: email’, etc.

People wouldn’t be REQUIRED to put a lot of tags on their posts, just available if they want to. Non-tagged posts might come up only under Chatter. If someone sees an important post without a tag, that person can repost it with the right tag.

I think all this needs is the standard tags/cloud feature that comes with most blog software and major free blogs.

106 Seattlegirl
Agreed.

Pumas Unleashed 11.10.08 at 7:25 pm

another site……man I’m getting dizzy…
I put everything in MSWord…generally copy and paste what I find interesting and get it over to other blogs…
thanks but I’ve got too many sites from in here in the past hour haven’t caught up yet….
I wrote a email to Steve Marquis and Wiley Drake,( Pumas Unleashed 11.10.08 at 7:09 pm #51)told them I am a PUMA gave them this site..ask them if they want us..told them to contact Murphy..(sorry Murphy) or any one on her or me………When I see something of interest or know I can do something…I do it or spread the word……WHEW…

typo….any one on HERE or me

ladyhawkke,

I’m going to contact him right now and give him Murphy’s site and mine. And have him e-mail the contacts from the other states to me. When I receive them, I will post them here and we can begin!

I think PUMAs need to build a compelling movement and grow your ranks. Focus on creating your movement then force the political parties to come to you for your approval. Eventually you will choose your candidate but the Dems should not assume it will be them.

tec1965 11.10.08 at 7:49 pm

tec 1965 fades into the woodwork

FYI I did respond up thread. #28. Maybe you should pay attention before getting all butt hurt. I would gladly have continued in that line if you wanted to.

Just to be a little reductionist….

This is a blog. One of many PUMA blogs. There are also many other blogs focused on diffent causes. Most of us post at more than one blog and work for more than one cause.

I suggest that this blog continue to do what this blog does best: actions and research. For whatever compatible cause our members ask help for, from one week to the next, as different things happen in the outside world.

Current needs in the news seem to include Hillary’s health care subcomittee, reaction to Prop 8, defending Palin. Up soon I hope will be founding and/or supporting alternative news sites getting started (http://dailypuma.blogspot.com/ is one).

We don’t need to pledge our whole group forever to certain priorities. We can just do actions and discussions on whatever our members bring up — just as we’ve always done, really.

Setting a particular focus would mean losing some members and trying to recruit from outside to replace them.

PS. Subject to authority of Murphy and Mama and others that are doing more of the work and paying more of the expense of course.

Here’s the link to locations for Saturday’s protest against H8 …
http://www.jointheimpact.com
it’s also listed in at
http://pumapac.org/alerts.html
and
http://pumapac.org/forums/action/

I’m beginning to lose faith. How do we expect to change anything when people can’t seem to lift a finger around here?

Love the post Murphy…once again you are on spot while in the groove…posting a little dancing music to make us happy. Love you Murph!
We are getting the train back on the tacks and pumas are dancing on the train once again…ready to kick some asses! PUMAs are at their best when they dance while fighting the obots.
A few days after obie wins, Howie turns in his resignation! Now that’s something to dance about. Saved us some time, that’s for sure.
Everyone grab the one you’re with and give your Honey a little twirl. Howie is done!

tec1965, I was actually writing you back and then it sounded way too convoluted so I figured you wouldn’t want to read it. Ah see I should have sent it. I think everybody reads everybody but they don’t necessarily respond. Happens to me all the time, and there are also lurkers who pick up your ideas as well…so, don’t get too frustrated. Next time, barge in and scream you are naked. Seriously.

I AM NAKED AS THE DAY I WAS BORN!!!!!!!!!!

:::STREAKING:::

…course that could get weird over time…but I’ll streak with you so it’s not too strange.

Have I weirded you out yet? Aren’t you glad I wrote back? lol…sigh.

Pumas Unleashed 11.10.08 at 7:56 pm

Ooops, CJ.. when I e-mail Steve.. I’ll mention the dual contact from us..

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why…. let em know we are many…that’s what I told them … We are many voices…….
I told him to contact Murphy or anyone here or me……..
Let them hear us…….

MKfromLA – # 123

I like your idea of a blog gardener – weed off all the casual chat but people will invariable get hurt that their comment got axed.

I am glad to continue this topic of a more user productive blog.

What do you folks (not guys according to Dances) think of the FORUM page. Why don’t you all use it the way it was set up ?
Any comments ? Does everyone think the FORUM page answers all our needs of a better way to blog ?

prowlland: Thank you. I am going to repost up in the action section.

RE POCPUMA…While I am not a person of color, I joined this pac when it began as an action of solidarity…I have just received an email from its founder stating that ..POCPUMA is not going away . They will continue to serve as opposition to the Obama actions of the regime(my word) in concert with Democrats, Republicans, and Independants. By the way, the founder of this blog noted a couple comments ago that He had joined the Republican Party…Interesting ongoing changes within Pumasphere and continuities within changes…It is the nature of anti-Obama efforts from start to now and beyond.
This is healthy there and here and whereever….in my view.

ladyhawkke 11.10.08 at 7:42 pm

PUMAS UNLEASHED Do you have a link to the electors filing lawsuits?
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some are here ladyhawkke
http://wethepeopleusa.ning.com/groups

kat in your hat
You are naked?
Prove it.

I go read the other bogs. I just havent had anything to contribute yet.
I kinda like the freewheeling that goes on here.

turndownobama

But otherwise, I think our current energy should go to things we can do on our own, such as our own infrastructure, recruiting, and CREATING ALTERNATIVE NEWS SITES. And current issue prowls of course.
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Great idea. How would you do something like that?

142
this is the responce you get after using your email addy and a password…it won’t let you get in.
What the hell is a Ning …like I said this has happen before to me.
You are signing up with your Ning ID.
Now just enter your password to continue

CJ 11.10.08 at 8:08 pm

prowlland 11.10.08 at 8:01 pm

go here and sign up !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://wethepeopleusa.ning.com/groups
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can not sign up here…I’ve tried this site or similar using the same sign up process and it won’t work.
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well get the list and write a letter of your ownthis is texas

Genny Hensz, 226 W. Tanglewood Drive, New Braunfels, Texas 78130
Talmadge Heflin, 11923 Carvel Lane, Houston, Texas 77072
Marcia Daughtrey, 6713 Hollytree Circle, Tyler, Texas 75703
Virgil Vickery, 16137 Parish Hall, Spring, Texas 77379
Charlie O’Reilly, 5200 Seascape Lane, Plano, Texas 75093
Brenda Zielke, 2953 Newport Dr., Rockwall, Texas 75032
Mary Darby, 5509 Key Bend, Garland, Texas 75043
Melba McDow, 7208 Lake Mead, Arlington, Texas 76017
Paul Pressler, 3911 Ave. O, Galveston, Texas 77550
James Wiggins, P.O. Box 3446, Conroe, Texas 77305
Deborah Cupples, 7418 San Ramon, Houston, Texas 77083
Frank Alvarez, 1646 Jerusalem, Round Rock, Texas 78664
Russ Duerstine, 2732 Southland Blvd., San Angelo, Texas 76904
Zan Prince, 2200 Lake Country Dr., Weatherford, Texas 76087
Bruce Harris, 3002 Speedway, Wichita Falls, Texas 76301
Gordon Starkenburg, 2104 Shirley Ave., Alvin, Texas 77511
Sandra Cararas, 7504 North 30 MST, McAllen, Texas 78504
Donene O’Dell, 12713 Tierra Arleth Ct., El Paso Texas 79938
Larry Lovelace, 401 SW Rand, Burleson, Texas 76028
Nelda Eppes, P.O. Box 924008, Houston Texas 77292
Kenneth Corbin, 5737 62nd Street, Lubbock, Texas 79424
Gene Ryder, 1502 Copperfield Road, San Antonio, Texas 78251
Bob Hierynomus, 1985 Brand Rd., Bulverde, Texas 78163
Terese Raia, 1 Turnabout Ct., Sugar Land, Texas 77478
Arturo Martinez de Vara, 13940 Benton City Rd., Von Ormy, Texas 78073
Thomas Ferguson, 1317 Barclay Drive, Carrollton, Texas 75007
Robert Long, P.O. Box 658, Bastrop, Texas 78602
Pat Peale, IIII Kiowa Dr., West Lake Kiowa, Texas 76240
Joel Yowell, 7314 Candy Ridge, Corpus Christi, Texas 78413
Judith Hooge, P.O. Box 907, Poteet, Texas 78065
Giovanna Searey, 221 Hummingbird CT., Pasadena, Texas 77502
Patricia Ann Van Winkle, 2529 Brookefield Ave., Dallas Texas 75235
Ronny Risinger, 803 Blue Jay Way, Round Rock, Texas 78681
Frank Eikenburg, 7417 Meadow Rd., Dallas Texas 75230

Patty 11.10.08 at 8:03 pm

tec1965 11.10.08 at 7:25 pm

guys ?murphy ?? am i being naive in thinking these lawsuits actually have a chance considering they are filed from within the dnc (or some of them anyway )and by electors ???
someone please ??

I’m not really qualified to say on this.
My opinion is you are being naive.
*61 was elected he will be our pres. I think the whole BC is being kept from us to keep us distracted like little hamsters on a wheel.
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and that is why I say we must keep it alive….Obama and company and the media kept the smears alive about Palin and McCain and pushed them out……….we can do the same.

136 Freddiebrown
What do you folks (not guys according to Dances)
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Thanks.
It’s just my personal preference. “Folks” is inclusive of men and women. Using the term “guys” for mixed gendered groups, reinforces and elevates the status of men over women. Can you imagine the reaction men men would have if we used “hey, gals” instead? Most would find it demeaning. I find it demeaning to be addressed as “guys”.
The Constitution refers to All Men… and is supposed to be inclusive, except when they switch up and use the “men” term against us, to exclude women.

The GLBT movement had to expand and separate out lesbians (women) from the term “Gays”, for the same reason, and to promote the visibility of women.

If we’re fighting against sexism and misogyny … I see nothing wrong with being recognized.

kat in your hat
I demand proof.
I’m from California, the “show me your naked body state”.
No wonder we never get anything done out here.

CJ
When addressing me you may use “Your Royal highness. Lord and Emperor of the Known Universe.”

CJ 11.10.08 at 8:15 pm

prowlland 11.10.08 at 8:12 pm
……….
Snail Mail OMG
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nobody told you you had to do anything… but don’t discourage us from do it……….
I dont have time to sit here and bitch…. later all

Man, remind me to never ever post my personal address to even the most secure websites.

Time to get off for a bit .BBL
Kep the idead flowing.
And be nice to each other. Put the claws away and get naked.

MKfromLA 11.10.08 at 8:23 pm
I acknowledge that I am blographically uncharismatic. Not saying you are, just saying that I know I am.
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Beg to differ.

snowtigerredux,
Ok, fine, but keep this between me and you. http://www.ainttheycute.com/Censored-t-shirts/thumbnails/A6486E-lg-t.jpg

Ok, pumas, I’m outta here. BBL maybe.

FLOOD the newscaster and let them know we demand this to be aired.
#51 and we demand that BHO releases his entrance forms to his college..forgot the name.
someone post this or similiar on that prowlsite..it’s new to me and will take me to long to do it…
give me any email addy’s not on the list that you like and delete those you don’t want on mine…

Oreilly@foxnews.com

joe@msnbc.com

brian and friends
friends@foxnews.com

Oreilly@foxnews.com

managing-editor@nytimes.com

shepard smith
studiob@foxnews.com

executive-editor@nytimes.com

ir@timewarner.com

steve forbes
forbes@foxnews.com
americas-talking@foxnews.com

countdown@msnbc.com

fox morning
friends@foxnews.com

bill and megyn
billandmegyn@foxnews.com

national@latimes.com

joe@msnbc.com

Sean Hannity
hannity@foxnews.com

news-tips@nytimes.com

dateline@NBCUNI.com

cavuto@foxnews.com

Nightly@NBC.com

rush lumbaugh
elrushbo@eibnet.com

hardball@msnbc.com

letters@latimes.com

TheMaskedPuma 11.10.08 at 8:27 pm
……….
have you heard…Obama won…Bush is out of office

“FROM A Site DESIGN point of view, I would suggest pulling out (differentiating) your FORUMs and repositioning them at the FAR LFT”

If you mean repositioning the Forums links on the left sidebar… they are on the far left.

Just in case you need a reminder …
Dear Leader is “ready to rule” on day one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7Nlq80DVpo

Crap. Now I’m really freaked.

#80

Seattlegirl 11.10.08 at 7:31 pm

3. Equal pay for equal work.
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Seattlegirl, we have had an Equal Pay for Equal Work Act for about 45 years. Perhaps, it needs some tweaking, but it does exist.

I love your first two recommendations.

good nite all

DancesWithPumas 11.10.08 at 8:52 pm

BillieJo
Have you created your blog yet?
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Nope, I am sick and don’t want to do it unless I feel committed with time and come up with how I want it to look…still thinkin’

Ok, it’s taken me awhile to get upstairs. I have a REALLY OLD OLD question… anybody know how Mick’s dogs are?

Everybody going to have Fox News on an hour from now? Part One of Greta’s interview with Palin….

BillieJo 11.10.08 at 8:56 pm
Get well soon.

From downstairs:

DancesWithPumas 11.10.08 at 4:45 pm
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Specifically, preventing the implosion of the country, and probably shortly thereafter the world. Ensuring and promoting gender and women’s rights, while noble while basic , will not achieve that. when the status of women is elevated and accorded the same “respect” as men, the political landscape will change, and all else will follow.
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Well, it’s a position and an opinion. Pretty hard to see how it would unwind the pernicious process and effects of Obastard’s collapse of the American and world state. Which is (pick one) his probable a) Intended, b) Unintended, purpose.

Obastard’s collapse of the American and world state.
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I don’t subscribe to the end of the world school,
don’t subscribe to their newsletter either. Just don’t care for the cut of the jib.

#53 snowtigerredux- this is pretty much the same thing I said. The faux dem’s have such a stranglehold on the party now (just LISTEN to Brazille, both Clintons, Ferraro… just about ANY of the “old timers”) – I just can’t see how you can possibly “fix” this. It would like trying to topple the Roman Empire. Not impossible, mind you- but if the “old timers” could neither stop it, nor go against it, how can WE??? What are you planning on doing? Chipping away at them a person and a law at a time? Sorry, but I just think that the “old” dem party was in the throes of being destroyed for the past 10 years now…. and it’s dead now. Hillary was the last cry for the good… and threw in the towel when she came up against the “wall”….

oops…wrong link…but agood oen anyway….
amy siskind on obloatedego’s sexism

admin 11.10.08 at 9:04 pm #204

“Karen, the last I read, the little one was recovering nicely and Mick was troubled about what to do about the big dog, whom she loves but who is not safe around the little dog.”
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Yep Murphy, that’s what I heard too.

Thanks for asking Karen and I’m still not sure what to do with da big dawg yet.

Glad to hear the little one is recovering nicely Murphy and Mick. I have this thing for dogs….. Animals as a whole, but dogs in particular. If I go to a house, or take a walk, and see a dog it’s like a magnet for me… LOL..

Greta coming up in 20 minutes… full hour of interview with Palin (barring commercials, of course)…. stay tuned…

OMG did you ever think they might select Donna Brazile as the Democratic Party Chairman? Don’t be surprise!

Notanegghead, good to see your post. I’m sure you have had a lot of crap thrown at you during this election as an African American. But, as a disgusted, 52 year old, gay, white woman, I rejoice in knowing we have a such a broad (no pun intended) collection of wonderful “meeting of the minds” here. It makes me proud to be a part of such a large, diverse, group of people with some down-home common sense!

Can someone explain to me how they can keep recounting and recounting and recounting with frankin (and GA too or so I heard) and keep getting more and more votes for the dem every time? Where on earth are those votes coming from? I mean…. a vote is a vote, right? How can they keep changing???

((((Murphy)))

Great….put me in touch with that person. I am going to start by working on an outline of what needs to be accomplished. As I said I don’t know anything about publishing so someone who has that backgound would be helpful. Am in the thinking stages now as to:

a.What audience we want to project to…purpose
b.What we want to project…i.e. the broader spectrum of the PUMA alliance….a theme, if you will
c. Outline of chapters and content

I need to learn what can be used from the internet legally
so having access to an attorney would be helpful

Once I have the outline I will email it to you…it may take a bit of time for me to get that organized and thought out.

You said you have been thinking about a book, so if you want to jot down some of your thoughts and ideas and email them to me that would be great. I am assuming you or Mama has my regular email.

KarenWI, No, No, just an opinion of what could happen.

KarenWI
Its me snowtiger. Had trouble with my password and had to redo the thing again.
I hope to get snowtiger007 back sooner or later.
Kinda liked that one.

Well snowtiger007…. have you tried using 007snowtiger? LOL…

KarenWI
Re: fixing the dems.
I don’t think it can be done but many here do so I am on board helping in any way an independent can.
Meanwhile my main focus will be on the midterms and protesting any new actions the current regime attempts that will curtail freedom.
ALready have a couple people helping out on the midterms.
Also I ma going to figure out some way to undercut the obots attempt at establishing a second term. Which they are already working on.

KarenWI #221

My only child is 14 yr. old and thank God she is very helpful with our small zoo. If I find another home for Luna, she will go back to the original owner. During the day I keep Luna in the yard and Becca in the house and at night Luna sleeps next to my bed and Becca sleeps in her crate which is what we have always done. So far this is working out so I may be able to keep Luna.

I would love to stay and catch up but I’ve had a busy day so goodnight all.

NOt what?

Here are the instructions from Steve Marquis for helping get to the electors giving them political cover.

He wants us to go to his website and make contact with the organization he already has in place under “The Call to Action” link.

as a side note: He mentioned how rough this can get. Steve is an engineer, and at his place of work when the BO Campaign got wind of what he is doing, an Obama thug went into his workplace, asked for his boss and told him Steve was planning on shooting up the office..

anyway.. Steve has your e-mail Murphy and the PUMApac website and he will be contacting you with his plan. (I told him to look you up on Youtube in case he has any doubts PUMApac is for real)
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BillieJoe… are you sick? I was having my dinner and talking with Steve. I have to read a bit on the Kennedy quotes to see exactly what he had to say about Hillary..before I can compose a letter. I’m not exactly sure what the protocol is…but every prowl I’ve received has been per Murphy. Please someone, advise.

ok….where is the link to PUMA’s radio show??

There are links in the righthand sidebar… scroll up

OK…newsflash

I have tried both the right bar and also the link Murphy just gave me.

Both have led to LAST WEEK’S show.

murphy 11.10.08 at 10:17 pm

the new agenda’s radio show is on NOW — listen and call in:

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/The-New-Agenda/

wow! it’s Puma Monday Night on blogtalkradio!

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Think about bookmarking it.

zeewhatever

when you get there, click on teh orange box on the large graphic to listen.
You can also listen to teh archived ones below the large graphic

Hellp, I’m at http://gretawire.foxnews.com/ so what do I click to play the interview?

KarenWI 11.10.08 at 9:42 pm

What’s this? IS Brazille the new chairman of the DNC?

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Not Ms ’stop the hate’. No way please say it aint so. Why are such evil nasty people moving onward and upward?

#262 hillfan4mccain… I got confused too……. it’s was just “just imagine”… not a “news flash”… you can breathe again… Brazille is NOT the chairperson of the DNC – at least not yet- I guess..

KarenWI 11.10.08 at 10:35 pm

#262 hillfan4mccain… I got confused too……. it’s was just “just imagine”… not a “news flash”… you can breathe again… Brazille is NOT the chairperson of the DNC – at least not yet- I guess..

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Oh Thank God, I really cant get this excited this late. I have enough problems sleeping!

How goes it KarenWI?

Zee

Did anyone tell you to click on the Orange box on the left hand side in the box that says ‘On Live Now’ and the time left in the show?

CJ

One more thing, the way that the dems are going to try and get around it is to say that if he isn’t sworn in, there would be major rioting. Well, the choice is, I guess, living with the short-term implications of riots or the long-term implications of our constitution meaning nothing. Oh, and btw, those who hacked into the govt. computers (Chinese, I think), probably also know whether or not nobo is legitimately qualified or not and every international legal document will be meaningless and they will know it! I say, I want to keep the constitution intact and we need to fight this before it is too late.

WAAAAAA!!!! How sad Bill Ayers now thinks he is the target of “terrorists”… oh, but wait! I thought he and O were just, you know, neighbors that never saw each other or something.

http://www.thestar.com/article/533244

And “irony” just doesn’t do it justice when TWICE he called the police to protect him.

The final nail, however, is that word “distinguished” to describe who he is.

How did we get down this rabbit hole again?

Big Cat Lover…I saw no “on live now”

And even tho Dances got me onto the right track (thanks!!) I still had to click some other crap to get there.

I don’t know if any of you know that there are people for whom ONE DIRECT LINK is as much as they can do.

Zee
I don’t find it user friendly, but you’ll develop the habit, I’m sure.

Yeya, ‘what if’?

Maybe Bill ayers will follow in OJ Simpsons footsteps, and find justice after all.

Murphy,

What is your take away from the Palin interview? Is she really going after the media?

TXRepGirl 11.10.08 at 11:01 pm

Well, we have to admit~~~~bill ayer’s is a most ‘distinguished’ communist bomber.

Maybe this is it!

http://www.foxnews.com/video2/video08.html?maven_referralObject=3174379&maven_referralPlaylistId=&sRevUrl=http://www.foxnews.com/ontherecord/index.html

Sorry. I just CAN’T say the word “distinguished” ANYTHING in any proximity whatsoever to that man! Disgusting? YES! Distinguished? NEVER!

Finally, home from work & on my own computer where I can type freely.

136 freddiebrown re: a more user productive blog.

I have had the same struggles in the past – I can’t even get thru one thread for all the posts, and if I am trying sift for the serious content, I feel challenged and cranky if I have too little time.

But this is clearly a networking place as well as a forum.

Anyway, I didn’t mean to imply that conversation should be pruned from the blog. I was suggesting that if we had a separate place to post research etc (a secure place), that the gardener PUMA would go thru there, prune, and place in the appropriate bucket.

SUGGESTION: What if we had several email addresses to send our research to, like we do now for Action Center. We can send but only a few can read.

DancesWithPumas
I saw several numbers after the election. I really lost any interest after the election.

ocreep said he wasnt in favor of amendments to the constitution to deal with same sex marriage etc.

Slapping forehead! As if anything he says means anything

murphy
Over 70%? WOw, I heard 67%.

67% – 70% seems right based on persoanl experience…
have worked withh hundreds of AA men and women over the years, mostly men.

Proposition 8 is a statewide ballot proposition in California. On November 4, 2008, voters approved the measure and made same-sex marriage illegal in California. The campaign over Proposition 8 was fiercely contested. In the aftermath of the vote, an intense focus on Proposition 8 has continued, with those who support same-sex marriage coming together every day since the election in rallies and protests. Three lawsuits seeking to invalidate Proposition 8 have been filed. It is not yet clear what impact the ban will have on the approximately 18,000 same-sex couples in the state.[1],[2]

Proposition 8 received 52.5% of the vote in the state’s unofficial vote canvass; the Secretary of State’s office will not officially call the results of Prop 8 until December 13 after they have been able to count all absentee and provisional ballots. With 96% of the vote counted (25,423 of 25,423 precincts reporting), the totals were:[3]

Yes: 5,387,989 (52.5%)
No: 4,883,460 (47.5%)
Proposition 8 adds a new amendment to the California Constitution which says, “only marriage between a man and a woman is valid or recognized in California”. Before it passed, same-sex marriage was a constitutionally-protected right in California; a majority of the justices of the California Supreme Court affirmed this understanding of the constitution in May 2008.

ANyon eelse get this?

Contact Mr.Jeffery Brooks for the claim of one million pounds which your I D won in the POWERBALL NATIONAL LOTTERY.Please acknowledge the receipt of this mail with your details below to : E-mail: jefferybrooks2008promo@walla.com
Full names
Address

I don’t know how many of you PUMAs are aware that Obama resigned his law license in 2007 because he has 17 outstanding traffic citations that he refuses to take care of…so he resigned his license to avoid censure from the bar and be forced to pay and take care of the citations. Also Michelle has resigned her license…..
ARDC Lawyer Search Results from the ARDC database last updated as of November 10, 2008 at 12:11:39 PM: for the following terms:
Last Name: Obama,
status: All, Country: all
Name Date Admitted City State Authorized to Practice?
Barack Hussein Obama December 17, 1991 N/A N/A No
Michelle Obama May 12, 1989 N/A N/A No
Former name(s):
Michelle Robinson

Very interesting that the man who makes more than $1 million a year and won’t take care of traffic violations and tickets but would rather surrender his law license….and that the supposed pres-elect will enter the Presidency with 17 violations of the law unrectified and unsettled just because he doesn’t want to be bothered with obeying they law of the land.

OH btw, that little e-mail came to the address I ONLY use for PUMA and team sarah.

maybe thsi is it

http://www.foxnews.com/video2/video08.html?maven_referralObject=3174379&maven_referralPlaylistId=&sRevUrl=http://www.foxnews.com/ontherecord/index.html

alohapuma
You’re right. Let’s spend another evening talking about dogs.

It was just a conversation based on a question I asked. Don’t get nervous…

The link I posted opens PART ONE of the Greta/Palin interview…. look lower to find PART THREE if you want to hear the part where she talks about women..

DancesWithPumas 11.10.08 at 11:23 pm
For what?

mountainsong….I agree. I will never understand homophobia except that we all fall along a specutrum and there are (probably) many people with homosexual tendencies who don’t act on them and who are petrified of them. That’s really sad. We are not cookie cutter human animals. We are all unique…its in the DNA. I personally have no lesbian urges…all my fantacies are about men…but that’s my unique wiring. One is no better than the other.

I feel like we (as a society) waste so much time and energy trying to control and legislate this issue. I think its a no brainer and leave people alone to live out their uniqueness and lets focus on the issue that affect ALL our sons and daughers.

We are not brimming with resources. Let’s get real about wher we can have the greatest impact with our time and money right now.

alohapuma 11.10.08 at 11:31 pm

Women make better lovers. LOL

CyberFerret52 11.10.08 at 11:33 pm
I don’t get it. Everyone says this is a war, but no one suggests how to fight it.

Oh, Sarah is great!

Thanks for helping me find the right videos at Gretawire.

Sarah is really great, I see why people say she is brilliant. It’s her gestures and her eye contact with the interviewer, and when she stops to think and it looks like she’s speaking without disguising her thoughts….

Reminds me a lot of Hillary. Like when someone asked about the media trying to get Hillary to quit, and Hillary kept saying “I don’t know why they’re doing that, it’s unprecedented….” Sarah had the same puzzlement about the media’s treatment and the crazy rumors etc.

Am I On the Wrong Site?

I’ve spent most of my political life working for progressive change. I am attracted to this site because of all the “PUMA” places on the web, this seems to be the one populated by progressives, rather than Republicans who, for whatever reason I can’t imagine, supported Hillary.

I should say upfront that I supported Kucinich at the beginning (see, I told you I was progressive — I support candidates who have no chance of winning.) Obviously Barack was not my first choice but he has been elected and I don’t want to spend the next four years yelling into the wind.

I WANT to spend that time working to make the Democratic party more responsive to progressive/liberal agendas and it would be a plus if those values could be voiced by and legislated through female candidates. (As you can see, I was NO fan of Palin.)

So my question is — is this the right site to pursue this? I absolutely don’t want to crash any party to which I am not invited and I absolutely don’t want to piss off anybody here who has obviously invested more time, energy and money to their cause.

If I need to go somewhere else, please let me know. I am NOT sitting in judgment on anybody on this site … but I don’t want to join a site with goals that are not the same as mine.

Thanks.

I think the most important thing to do is to NOT write a book, but start a cheap, easily accessed paper based magazine and distribute it to all local stores for free. We can use donations and ads to pay for it. It is actually not that expensive, the hardest thing is finding a printer. Most newspapers will do this for us when their printer is not in operation for a nominal price. A few of us with time can get a program on our computer such as Publisher, throw in the stories, captions, and ads… then paste it on newspaper block and send it to the printer. The printer will then give it back and the people can ship it to designated people in every large town to put it in groceries and places were people are most likely to pick up something FREE to read.

This way the “watch dog” approach is quicker to point out new Obama problems, and will reach more people easier then books or blogs. I’ve done this before with a little newspaper down on South Padre Island. I don’t have time to do it, but I can help distribute afterwards.

What do you think?