Yeah, Larry, it tells me something too.

i was all prepared to pull the race card if i wasnt first…the race card…and throwing friends under the bus…and hanging out with terrorists is the new order of the day….aint it sad

I was a stay at home mom who homeschooled 2 beautiful daughters, was willing to go to court for that right. Sarah was my daughter’s hero. I have been on the terrorist side aka a homeschooling parent. Backing a Woman for president is not a problem…

I wonder if Joe Lieberman could be contacted with regard to the BC. Of course, he might not want to get involved since they were going to strip him of his committees. Everyone is watching out for themselves.

ARIO

LOL We are a strange lot…My oldest is working on her Master’s, My youngest in her junior year college.. Yeah we were not the main stream homeschoolers… there were only 2 kids I wear pants…I have a brain, thought them to think…Strange group haha

gopuma lololol…sad isnt it!

As a Republican, my daughter asked if GOP meant Goofy Old People or Grumpy old people? Maybe she was right..LOL

“fist for of dollars”
sounds obscene.

Maybe basic common sense didn’t occur to Larry Summers. If his little girls attributed parental roles to their toys…MAYBE it’s because a two year old’s ENTIRE WORLD is mommy and daddy. Makes sense to me! Ah well, he seems like Obama’s kind of guy.

NOBAMA NETWORK - I would take that note to his boss, the head of the city, whoever etc… HE IS NOT SUPPOSE TO BE DOING THAT ON CITY TIME!

Sounds like Summers is a believer in “PTA” (that’s from Dances)

This is why I am not supporting Obama. All this trash talk against me and my friends. I will not stand side by side with such trash talk. I will oppose it. Anyone who slams that trash in my face is going to get my opposition. They can call me racist bitch and I will carry the label proudly. I will never bend to Obama. I will march to the gas chambers singing a song of happiness. Screw them. I will proudly stand on the stage with Hillary and Sarah and let them throw rotten eggs and tomatoes at me. I will be so happy to stand so proud.

sourthenGal & dances, we did call his boss and report it. We requested his route be changed as opposed to being fired. I don’t need him coming back with friends and guns.

DancesWithPumas 11.08.08 at 1:12 pm

NobamaNetwork
Garbage collectors leave insulting notes to people on their route on company time?
Make his day, file a complaint with your waste management company.
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Yes! And while you’re at it, ask the company if they like their CONTRACT!! Put alittle pressure on them! Yes - what Dances said!

TXRepGirl 11.08.08 at 1:14 pm
Hmm… yeah, usually having an abused child sit down and be interviewed sitting next to the abuser is such a GREAT idea.
http://michellemalkin.com/2008/11/08/obama-pimping-teacher-i-should-not-have-said-that/
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Sound like a good follow-up letter writing campaign.
Ignorant is as ignorant does. Keep the ofreak away from children.

Gypsy r. - good point - one of buddies works for “Allied Waste” - they do have contracts. Is this city (home) or a company pick-up where there is a contract???

See, this is what I love about the PUMAs, the fighting spirit! I am attempting to take the day off. I have a half finished painting on my easel for more weeks than I can count.

Kat in your hat:

Life socializes home schooled kids. School systems teach them to be followers instead of leaders. The nearest model of a social system that mimics a school is a prison. (some Ivy league school study determined that)

Anyway, you incorporate schooling into daily living. You use all kinds of outside trips, activities, and day to day life to have the child learn to communicate and participate. There are organized activities from time to time with others, but they are not necessary. We went ot Operas, Plays, philharmonic events, knew violin teachers, piano teachers, voice teachers, I coached a co-op debate team. My hubby took the girls on motorcycle trips. I took them to dog shows where we showed our champion Boxers.

The older daughter did many things with and for her grandmother when she learned to drive. My younger daugher was a close companion of my mother in law when she did church volunteer work.

My girls can go anywhere and do anything without being shy. My youngest can play 11 musical instruments, and she sings. She has appeared in local musical productions, and has performed with a local jazz band. She sings and plays the piano in a wonderful individual performance when called upon to volunteer at local nursing homes.

Does that answer your questions about socialization?

It will be interesting to watch who all gets thrown under the bus in the upcoming wks.

Larry Summers was experimenting on his daughters?

Good Lord!

He sounds as nutty as John B. Watson. Watson was the psyhchologist who used his son, “Little Albert” in his fear conditioning experiments. As an infant, Watson scared the shit of the crib bound infant by first letting him get used to a white rat in his crib (he was playing with it) and then, after Little Albert liked his new toy, hit a loud gong every time the baby touched the rat. It wasn’t long before Little Albert screamed in fear every time he saw the white rodent. Little Albert’s fear was so strong, that he began to generalize it and associate anything white and furry with terror. (Hmmm, maybe Obama had a Little Albert childhood).

Summers sounds like he fits the mold of nutty professor. Willing to screw up his daughters for life all in the name of science.

Here is the MILLION DOLLAR QUESTION, but first I want to ask yall this … Do yall remember what happened to Bill Clinton? Not long have he got into office, ALL those woman came out of the woodwork screaming “sexual harrassment”!

How long do yall think it will be before old BO’s affiliations start popping up????? Or do yall think they have been forever silenced???

11.08.08 at 1:18 pm

Right from the primaries it has been evident that Rove was working to help the Dems. We concluded that it was because they wanted BO as the weaker candidate, but even after BO pushed Hill out, the Repubs did little or nothing to help McCain. Hagel spoke glowingly of Obama, went with him on his world tour, and McCain refused to use the vast amount of negative information available to him in his fight against BO. There was no October surprise. McCain took public financing even after BO said he wouldn’t. Everything that has happened has seemed counter-intuitive.
I conclude, as I’ve said before, McCain was a foil, and the only candidate in this race for either party (for their own particular reasons) was BO.
An outside possibility might be that the present administration plans on using what they have known about BO’s ineligible status and it’s potential for fomenting constitutional crisis (or just rioting) as their way of declaring martial law and extending Republican tenure. Obviously it would have been simpler just to elect McCain/Palin, unless they thought they couldn’t control them.
Like I said above, there seems to be a shortage of honorable persons available to save the US from this cabal.

kat in your hat 11.08.08 at 1:13 pm

henri is correct.. My daughters were involved in 4-H and sports programs.. We had a blast. Oldest child was working infamily biz with work permit and dual enrolled taking college classes at 16.. Graduated Magna Cum Laude Music Ed Younger mild dyslexia but was able to do quite well a public speaker majoring in Mass Comm.

I found the link of the archives of the US Electoral College
http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/electoral-college/2008/

goanderen - great idea

Please go to the link I posted at #46 on the electoral college, there is a vast amount of information there.

Atypical #42

I like your way of thinking - makes a lot of sense, especially since everything else seems to be hitting brick walls!

greta

49 alohapuma

I agree. Targeting one media personality is a very good idea. It will show a united force and maybe make the MSM nervous about who will be next in line for such action.

Larry Summers is a sick individual:

Lawrence Summers Flashback: Africa Is ‘Under-Polluted’

http://news.yahoo.com/s/thenation/20081106/cm_thenation/45381035

The memo:

http://www.whirledbank.org/ourwords/summers.html

After the memo became public in February 1992, Brazil’s then-Secretary of the Environment Jose Lutzenburger wrote back to Summers: “Your reasoning is perfectly logical but totally insane… Your thoughts [provide] a concrete example of the unbelievable alienation, reductionist thinking, social ruthlessness and the arrogant ignorance of many conventional ‘economists’ concerning the nature of the world we live in… If the World Bank keeps you as vice president it will lose all credibility. To me it would confirm what I often said… the best thing that could happen would be for the Bank to disappear.” Sadly, Mr. Lutzenburger was fired shortly after writing this letter.

This is where we could start if we wanted to reach electors. We can target the electors in the states McCain won. These electors are not bound to vote for Obama.

No Legal Requirement
Electors in these States are not bound by State Law to cast their vote for a specific candidate:

ARIZONA - 10 Electoral Votes
ARKANSAS - 6 Electoral Votes
DELAWARE - 3 Electoral Votes
GEORGIA - 15 Electoral Votes
IDAHO - 4 Electoral Votes
ILLINOIS - 21 Electoral Votes
INDIANA - 11 Electoral Votes
IOWA - 7 Electoral Votes
KANSAS - 6 Electoral Votes
KENTUCKY - 8 Electoral Votes
LOUISIANA - 9 Electoral Votes
MINNESOTA - 10 Electoral Votes

MISSOURI - 11 Electoral Votes
NEW HAMPSHIRE - 4 Electoral Votes
NEW JERSEY - 15 Electoral Votes
NEW YORK - 31 Electoral Votes
NORTH DAKOTA - 3 Electoral Votes
PENNSYLVANIA - 21 Electoral Votes
RHODE ISLAND - 4 Electoral Votes
SOUTH DAKOTA - 3 Electoral Votes
TENNESSEE - 11 Electoral Votes
TEXAS - 34 Electoral Votes
UTAH - 5 Electoral Votes
WEST VIRGINIA - 5 Electoral Votes

goandersen I haven’t heard from Drac yet. Am still waiting for my email! I tried his email also and got the same rejection.

IMHO we need to get started on focusing on the electoral college. We must find out who they are and start blasting them with info about “O”.

GBPuma is doing exceptional work on the actual vote count that is ongoing and we must be ready to hit them with the truth if McCain really won the election.

My suggestion would be pumas volunteer to find out who the electoral college members are in each state.

I’ll start by volunteering to find out who they are in California.

Anyone?

The problem we are having is reaching the masses who voted for Obark.
If we only send emails to the media, we are spinning our wheels in the mud.
Targeting Matthews is like pissing in the wind.

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Yup like shoveling shit against the tide.

Sorry Ladyhawkke we must have been posting at the same time…

tks ladyhawkke.

I have a question.

What are our chances of getting the electoral college to make John McCain President of the United States.

and

Aren’t efforts better to be focused on the Summers issue?

Good deal Henri…I think we will be friends!!

taggles1

I kind of look at it this way. What are our chances of getting anything done, at any time? We don’t know till we try and if we don’t try we will never know if we could have succeeded.

gypsy rebel:

It is never too late to home school, if you are dedicated. You need purpose and a good plan. Switched on School house is a great program, and costs about what the book fees are for a regular public school in our area. We always finished our courses way ahead of time, and then went on to special projects. We sometimes took college level courses from the teaching company. Many research papers and other outside projects were completed in the large amounts of left over time we had to fill.

What is the vote count now in the states that are not done counting?

Also, I tried yesterday to find out who Florida’s electors were and came up emptyhanded. Monday, I’m calling my election board and asking for those names. And surely, the FL Dem Party knows but I have had arguments with them in the past when they wouldn’t give me the names of the Florida delegates and how they voted.

Murphy’s Law:
When referring to a link… include the link in your comment.

I don’t mind emailing Valerie Jarrett, but…I mean, she IS the closest person to Obama.

The choices Obama is making are not due to some kind of casual advice. He owes people.

I’ll email her though, hope everyone does. Be respectful though. Explain your concerns.

kat in your hat 11.08.08 at 2:09 pm
I don’t mind emailing Valerie Jarrett, but…I mean, she IS the closest person to Obama.
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Agreed. I’m just supporting The New Agenda’s action.

taggles
I with you. We need to focus our actions. Getting the electoral college to vote McCain in is a waste of time. I keep thinking of Bill Clinton’s lighting beam commment. There are many places we can focus, but we need to have one or two agendas that we push hard. If Don Imus can be taken off the air for racist comments, why can’t Matthews be sanctioned for admitting his bias.

Better yet an organized effort (including on the blogs) to keep Larry Summers out. All this information on the blog is very educational, but we need to move beyond daily prowls to more sustained efforts to achieve particular short term goals.

goanderson 55 and goofsmom 49

Both of you are correct. Targetting the media with emails will make a dent in their perspective,, especially if ratings go down. But you can not stop there..the young women today have to understand that there is another choice..The woman that voted for the Dark Lord was either of color or young.. or uneducated by choice. Look at what they are seeing on TV..Why is there a problem with obesity and anoxia…Have you checked out the Video games that ran O’s campaign message..Did you know that Nick was having the election as was MTV? The media is not just main stream news.. O did not just have CNN on his side. He had MTV, Nick, even ESPN

goandersen I totally agree with you!! Their’s was not a “last minute” organization structure!! We do need groups everywhere!

New Agenda needs to call out all of these women who like sheep voted for Obama…They needto be named in public and asked..Where are you? They need to name the socalled older women’s groups…Name names…Call them out…Where are you on Summers…Sheep… New Agenda needs to as the mighty leader fuehrer suggested…Get in the face of all the older Women’s groups and CALLL THEM OUT…ARGUE WITH THEM..
Writing Valerie Jarrett is irrelevant.

The media was reporting the other day that 70% of unmarried women voted for That One!! I think it was women under 30. What did they have to lose??

Stop fucking yammering about it and come up with a plan already. It’s not going to drop out of the sky.
WHAT PLAN OF ATTACK, OR FIRST STEP, DO YOU SUGGEST AND WHAT RESOURCES DO WE NEED TO ACCOMPLISH IT??

NOP
http://thenewagenda.net
You can probably post your suggestion there.

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goofsmom 11.08.08 at 1:52 pm

IMHO we need to get started on focusing on the electoral college. We must find out who they are and start blasting them with info about “O”.

GBPuma is doing exceptional work on the actual vote count that is ongoing and we must be ready to hit them with the truth if McCain really won the election.

My suggestion would be pumas volunteer to find out who the electoral college members are in each state.

I’ll start by volunteering to find out who they are in California.

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Totally on this page with you goofsmom… and everyone else needs to be taking this action more seriously. Forget emails to Matthews… he’s a lost cause. We need to focus on the EC. I’ve seen how we can force concerns and change through our numbers when we put the pressure on.

We need to focus on pressuring the EC — but the first challenge is finding out who they are? They will be voting on Dec. 15th… and we can put the pressure on to make them accountable for vetting this president since the media refuses. Obama might threaten that half the nation will protest — and use this threat to intimidate the EC to ignore the minimum qualifications — but the other half the country is for holding his feet to the fire. And it’s debatable whether the other half of the nation is as large as Obama would like us to think since voter fraud was huge to get the numbers he received.

Stay focused on this goal… I believe it may grow legs. And remember the language that is crucial in our communications with the EC. We need to stress language that this is preserving the ORIGINAL INTENT of our founding fathers when establishing the role of the EC and the ORIGINAL INTENT of our Constitution.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2127721/posts

repost from home for the Homeless I’m happy to be home First off let me say that I mourn with you Mick, we have lost a number of our 4 legged friends in the past year, there was Angel, a pure bred persian I rescued in 2001, raji, a tiny black kitty who was very shy and had mouth problems, Tipper, a 12 year old rescue and one of 2 out of a litter I rescued in ‘96, Shadow, who I had to have put to sleep a few months ago, Bam-Bam, my room-mate’s liitle one, who crawled under my closet and died in the summer, and some who’s name I can’t remember, but I know they along with my 4 beloved poodles and other lost furbabies are waiting for me at the Rainbow Bridge. My heart goes out to you in this time of sorrow.
Secondly, I would like to say, to those who have been trashing Hillary, she did not sell us out, consider your own family and friends and how they would have felt when their former employees and friends did sell them out to the enemy, who spent their campaign money like water down a drain, to have their campaign headquarters vandalised, and friends dying under mysterious means, your family threatened—what would you do? Hillary is the only politician to whom I’ve ever contributed, and ther is no way in H**l I would ask for a refund because she did what she had to do.Yes, I wrote her in, and I’m proud of that, I’d do it again, and I voted for a democratic Governor because her opponent was using the same tactics as that one—and wanted to cut the minimum wage in WA. by $1.50 an hour, but I voted for some republicans too. I voted for women where I could, I always do. But you do not need to call me a traitor, I did not, would never vote for Obama, but neither would I vote for McCain, who just couldn’t get it together. This election was rigged from day 1, we never stood a chance, but folks who drank the kool-aid are going to learn real fast, when all those students are required to do 3 months community service every year, and what ever other harebrained schemes he has in mind. I heard 2 men talking in a hardware store yesterday about the 3 months community service, and then of course we have the 1st dog(lol) , who can’t be a “mutt” like that one. But I do want to stay, I want to fight, and I’d like to be able to read my comments, which I haven’t been lately.
May your Higher power bless you and keep you all safe and I hope to see you all here tommorrow.
blessings,
valleywitch

Dances,

Are you talking to me? Why the impatience? Some of us don’t know if the leadership is working on a plan. I don’t think any one of us singlehandedly can design a full-fledged attack. We need to gather a handful of members with certain expertise. For example:

Media people - experience interacting with media
Design people - graphics visuals.
Media pyschology - the missing component here
Blogging Managers - teams of bloggers assign to specific blogs to put out well-crafted messages.
On camera talent - designated spokes people who know what to do in an interview.

Initial thoughts. I am absolutely willing to sign on, but I don’t want to waste time on the blog pissing in the wind. I have too many responsibilities as do the vast majority of us.

How about forming a list of expertise needed and get volunteers? Start there.

Whatever the PUMAs come up with to focus on first, I am ready. Come hell or high water, we are going to expose this fraud to the public. We are also going to fight against mysogyny.

Hello, PUMAs, Here are some of my thoughts about the election. I posted a rough draft of these thoughts a few days back, but as I have been thinking about it, I have revised, refined, and rewritten it. It is hard to put all of what has happened into words, but I continue to try. SO here goes:

Watching the supporters of Barack Obama at the victory celebration I was struck by what I have seen all throughout this long election season—the kool-aid glazed adoring eyes and giddy smiles as their candidate took the stage. This trance-like state which has been pervasive throughout the campaign, has prevented his followers from objectively evaluating his qualifications to become president. As they have gazed upon him, blinded by the feel-good cult mentality, they have sacrificed the capacity to employ judgment. They have ignored his history of radical associations, the lack of any remarkable legislation, his inability to lead by standing up for principles, the unconscionable violence of his supporters, and his paucity of experience and comprehensive knowledge about all matters domestic and international. In addition, the degree of corruption, underhanded manipulation of the Democratic party and convention, and the amount of suspect funds raised have remained, for some reason, unchallenged by reasonable investigation. Finally, Obama perpetuated hateful misogyny throughout the campaign by tacitly participating in and never once speaking out against the unspeakable and vicious attacks on women candidates. It seems that the followers of Barack Obama have sacrificed rationality and reason for the tingle factor, the star power, the fine words and exciting speeches. We are now in a very vulnerable position in our country. We have been bamboozled by a snake oil salesman and his henchmen in an election that was anything but free and fair. All opposing voices were silenced, all qualified candidates were vilified and annihilated. And now we are faced by the stark reality of an inexperienced president to lead us through very crucial and dangerous times. The citizens of the US, brainwashed by the media and the Obama campaign, have elected the most inexperienced and unqualified candidate for president suggesting that our collective unconscious is engaged in a repetition compulsion to relive the Bush years. Let us not bury the past and leave it unchecked, let us please investigate how this man attained power, and let us try to reform our election process. If we leave this election unscrutinized we will repeat its mistakes and risk the loss of democracy forever.

NewOrleansPuma
I happen to be a member of Puma PAC too…
why am I restricted from posting a suggested prowl when the blog is clogged with prowls by so many others?

gypsy rebel 11.08.08 at 2:21 pm

The media was reporting the other day that 70% of unmarried women voted for That One!! I think it was women under 30. What did they have to lose??

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Who the hell believes ANYTHING the Media reports. All BS all day every day. Shut them off do not listen. I trust not one single news sourse in the whole U S of A!

Dances

Right on!

Do we post ideas on prowls to the action center or the forums area?

gypsy rebel,

Scan the note and send it to Murphy.

I will be working with the New Agenda as a founding member to target Chris Matthews with Lynette Long.

Anyone who wants to help me with this, please email me at votepuma@gmail.com .

My first committment is to all PUMA’s. I know we need organization and it is going to happen. Just need a tiny bit of time, hang in there.

The reason we have free public schools is because not every parent(mother), especially nowadays, is able to stay-at-home, nor is everyone able to teach. Most of the children who are homeschooled have above average circumstances and therefore would have been ok in any educational setting. Not all public school teachers are bad news. Generalizing that all public school teachers are mean or ignorant and that all public schools are like Chicago’s-teaching communistic views AND ignoring reading writing, and arithmetic-or that they allow students to be misused on a regular basis is unconscionable. My husband, my brother, my sister-in-law and I as former teachers with years of experience in public schools object.

Thanks Dances

I’ll post a couple there

DanceswithPumas: You are not and neither am I but my point is: I am asking the leader of this Pack,Murphy, to ask or suggest to New Agenda to broaden their protest to either contact the many older women;s groups to join New Agenda or to protest on their own or, given neither response to call out in public these groups to put their power and mouth where their previous, in this election , action and money went, supposedly as they say on behalf of the causes of women and also in the tank for Obama. Murphy, as leader of the Pac, has authority to do that, not I.

Dances: More: And more to the point, Murphy as PacChief has the profile to do that as I think I remember she is on the board of New Agenda or at least as she has indicated to us will work closely with New Agenda.

I would like to see some kind of fusion between Puma Pac, The New Agenda, JSND (& their puma blogs), Will’s Puma, Heidi Li, The Real Democrats–with Paula, and Together4us–Rothschild, and a few others.

Basically, I want to see all the puma sites on JSND mega-fuse, (but everyone can still keep their individual blogs).

Dances:It doesn’t. I obviously was not clear enough. I hope my two posts at #124 and 126 indicate more clarity. ?
I am attempting to offer a suggestion for an expansion of the concept…and am offering that as an idea for Murphy’s consideration as she “works closely with” the New Agenda.

gypsy

I thought you were to one that got the note from your garbage man. I meant the member should scan the note and send it to murphy.

NewOrleansPuma
Yes, I realize that. Agree. Although, if new agenda is feminist or womanist, it won’t operate in a hierarchical fashion. Meaning, your voice carries as much weight as anyone else.
I thought you were objecting to me posting a suggested prowl.

admin 11.08.08 at 2:57 pm
the new agenda is hierarchical.

So, they don’t subscribe to feminist principles?

#133Murphy: Thank you for the information Murphy re the contact by New Agenda and their contacts and/or confrontation with the other women’s groups. WomenPac..especially I hope. and many I cannot remember now….

taggles1 11.08.08 at 2:38 pm
Good deal

#134Dances: Moi? protest your posting of a suggested prowl?
I may be wild, but I am not crazy….yet. If that would ever ..occur, take that as a sign that poor ole NOP has definitely lost it and hurry to NOP please to take me out for some eggs.. before you,please, escort me to a Neurologist for testing. I wondered why I felt a little testiness in yourfirst response or so to me! Ha..! Now I understand!

alohapuma. UM, ya don’t wanna know. It’s Islamic law…via the gov, the banks, schools, culture.

I’ll grab you a better definition.

taggles1 11.08.08 at 2:06 pm

“goofsmom the electoral college will NEVER make john mccain president.”

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You are missing the point. This is NOT about getting the EC to choose McCain. This is about the Republican officials in the EC standing up against the Democratic EC r