It’s not racist; it’s just the DANCIN’ Gene!

1st? Go Pumas

Prowls done Murphy.

I’m sorry I forgot to save valerie’s email to post to prowl…

Great article on the Summers appointment

We are being heard
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/barackobama/3407398/Back-biting-over-Barack-Obamas-Treasury-Secretary-gives-him-his-first-headache.html

Dances, I’m still here if you want to post that the link is fixed.

goofsmom: Hi..Contact by Pam Geller…She is formidable. I saw one of her videos before a Jewish audience castigating Jews with specific reasons why they should not be voting for Ojingo. She has tremendous spirit and power and what an advocate she was there.

ladyhawkke 11.08.08 at 5:21 pm
Dances, I’m still here if you want to post that the link is fixed.
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perfect timing.
I formatted all the emails addresses in the first block for mass emailing, the indivusal ones remain, and are underneath the “block” emails.
http://pumapac.org/prowlstalk.html

Let me know if you have a problem (and I’ll tell someone who cares. KIDDING. KIDDING!)

I always seem to manage to hit the end of the string…

Two questions:

GRANDMA’S FUNERAL
Anyone hear that he went? I mean, the woman raised him! I know you can pre-plan a funeral, not not pre-attend one!

WHO IS PRESIDENT IF…
Obama steps down before he’s sworn in? It can’t be Biden automatically, right? Wouldn’t it be McCain because he had the next most votes? I don’t see how it could be Hillary…

Anyone know the answers to these?

remember different not deficient.

mountainsong 11.08.08 at 5:20 pm

How about THIS for our National anthem????

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmxT21uFRwM&feature=related//
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Urk. Very funny!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjmalHcQh54&feature=related

BrianH 11.08.08 at 5:33 pm

You find something wrong with that?

ladyhawke;
don’t know if you ever got that video stopped. I could only find it on Facebook, and it runs as a Flash display. I’m not sure of anything: where you linked, what OS you use, what browser, or how computer-adept you are.

But — try this. Right-click on the system bar at the bottom of the screen. Select “Task Manager”. Inspect it for any program grabbing CPU time other than Explorer or System Idle Process. If you find one that looks suspiciously like it’s playing the video, click it once and select “End Process” at the bottom of the TM window. It will warn you, but go ahead.

Post if you have any problems with this.

P.S. I’m not even sure of which video you’re running; there were two on the Facebook site, and I tried both. Closing the window or the normal Flash controls worked with both.

mountainsong #10

Ouch baby…

mountainsong 11.08.08 at 5:36 pm

BrianH 11.08.08 at 5:33 pm

You find something wrong with that?//
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Many things. Technically, it’s very long, very slow, melodically complex (professionals only, please).
And it has almost nothing to do with the USA as a country. An anthem is, like it or not, a patriotic song, not a feel-good appeal to one-world-ism.

Bill Ayres feels vindicated, attacks Hillary, Palin and proves he is clueless

mountainsong:

Yes, I would have a huge problem with “we are the world” being the national anthem. It’s more of a song about collectivism. We are ONE. No. No, we aren’t. We are individuals with individual dreams and hopes and rights. We are not “one.” One world. One world government. One mass of nothing.

That song is really *nice*…it’s just that when you pay attention to the words it’s a happy marxist-leninist song. LOL. Not fit for our national anthem.

“When the world must come together as one….

We are the ones who make a brighter day
So let’s start giving
There’s a choice we’re making
We’re saving our own lives….

As God has shown us by turning stone to bread
So we all must lend a helping hand…

When you’re down and out
There seems no hope at all
But if you just believe
There’s no way we can fall
Well, well, well, well, let us realize
That a change will only come
When we stand together as one…”

(That was all to raise money to help Ethiopia wasn’t it? I remember learning–from 20/20—that the amount of money needed was raised and that things seemed great, but everything slowly went back to the same as it ever was. Can’t fix corrupt government–and climate–by throwing money at it.)

Headclunker 11.08.08 at 5:00 pm

Hey, Get Your Free BO Victory Sticker from MoveOn.

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If anyone has doubts as to where to stick them, I have a few suggestions. Feel free to ask… I don’t even charge a consulting fee for the answer.

Did anyone notice this statement from the pres. of Now in the Telegraph article cited above?

Kim Gandy, the president of the National Organisation of Women, complained last week: “It’s very important that whoever is in key positions understands the importance of women to this economy.
“I do wonder whether if his had instead been a comment or an opinion about African Americans having less capacity for math and science, would he be on anybody’s short-list.”

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/barackobama/3407398/Back-biting-over-Barack-Obamas-Treasury-Secretary-gives-him-his-first-headache.html

Kim Gandy, the president of the National Organisation of Women, complained last week: “It’s very important that whoever is in key positions understands the importance of women to this economy.
“I do wonder whether if his had instead been a comment or an opinion about African Americans having less capacity for math and science, would he be on anybody’s short-list.”
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May it haunt NOW FOREVAHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Geez, everyone is so serious~~~Can’tcha take a joke? Sheesh!!!

Dances

Yep, I think the kool-aid is wearing off for NOW. Be careful what you wish for NOW ladies….

Boston Globe? Comments? What happened to the link ‘rule’?

mountainsong, why joking? Don’t you want the global dollar and global government. That way if whos its whats it out in west bumble f*** 5th continent boondock road can be living like you…and you can be living like him…and we can all be one…ONE…

Barack on a news lead..”I promise you will will get there..”
Get where, a22h…e? What an idiot.

I have firecrackers I didn’t get to use Tuesday night because of a certin canadate , but I know where I would like to put them, in a certin partys but and light them!

Correction: I promise you we will get there..doesn’t really make any more sense than will will…but in the interest of more nonclarity…let us be accurate!

mijabsnji

I’m sure we can find you some helpers!!! LOL..

mijabsnji

you bet… can I realllly help…

kat in your hat 11.08.08 at 6:03 pm
You’re soo cute!!
OK, so I bombed one~~~

Let’s go out tonigh….

t

LADYHAWKKE here are your FLORIDA ELECTORS…(you will find that the most you get is name and some times sitting unless u dig up there actual party nomination form….and don’t ask me where I got them because you know the old saying “I’d have to kill you then”…LOL>>>LOL…let’s just say I have my sources:

The Democratic electors: Chip Arnt; T. Wayne Bailey; Fred Balsera; Terrie Brady; Karl Flagg; Joe Gibbons; Janet Goen; James Golden; Chris Hand; Marlon Hill; Tony Hill; Joan Joseph; Allan Katz; Gena Keebler; Joan Lane; Caren Lobo; Rick Minor; Jared Moscowitz; Angela Rodante; Frank Sanchez; Juanita Scott; Geraldine Thompson; Karen Thurman; Carmen Torres; Kirk Wagar; Enoch Williams; Frederica Wilson.

The Republican electors: state Sen. Jeff Atwater; Brian Ballard; Jennifer Carroll; Allen Cox; Sharon Day; Tony DiMatteo; Scott Glover; Lisa Greer; Deno Hicks; Ron Howse; Linda Ivell; Stafford Jones; Jordan; Fred Karlinsky; George LeMieux; Miller; Bertica Morris; Gary Morse; Lew Oliver; Jim Palmer; Joel Pate; Scott Rothstein; Ray Sansom; Paul Senft; Bob Staff; Jim Stelling; and Don Yaeger.

Andy Martin I noticed is trying to have people contact the Electors also.

And there are reports all over the web that McCain’s electors are going to be sued on the grounds that he is ineligible……..so why don’t we just do the battle of the Elector suits on grounds of who is eligible and let’s really find out who is eligible…..they claim McCain is ineligible because the city on his BC is Colon and not listed as the Military Base Hospital….they claim Colon never was a part on the US territory of Panama……..this could end up to be real fun…LOL…LOL

LADYHAWKKE here are your ARIZONA ELECTORS:

The two most recognizable names on the Democrats’ list are Raul Castro, governor from 1975-77, and Rose Mofford, governor from 1988-91. The other Democratic electors are:

• Jacob Harvey, officer of the Young Democrats at Northern Arizona University.
• Harold Holmes, vice chairman of the state party.
• Byron Jackson, mayor of Eloy.
• Catherene Morton, a Tucson businesswoman and longtime donor to the party and party candidates. On some ballots her name is misspelled as “Catherine.”
• Wendsler Nosie Sr., chairman of the San Carlos Apache Tribe.
• Verma Pastor, an education consultant and precinct committeewoman for the party and wife of U.S. Rep. Ed Pastor.
• William Roe, a Tucson environmental activist and major donor to the party and party candidates.
• Harriet Young, a retired Northern Arizona University professor and chairwoman of the Coconino County Democrats.

On the Republican side , state party Chairman Randy Pullen is perhaps the best-known elector. The others are:

• Bruce Ash, a Tucson businessman and Republican national committeeman.
• Kurt Davis, a longtime GOP official and political consultant.
• Wes Gullett, a former aide to John McCain. Along with Davis, he is a co-leader of the McCain campaign in Arizona.
• Sharon Harper, a Phoenix businesswoman. She and husband Oliver are McCain “trailblazers,” having raised at least $100,000 for the Arizona senator’s campaign.
• Jack Londen, a Phoenix businessman and longtime Republican donor; hosted President Bush at a May fundraiser for McCain held at his Biltmore home.
• Beverly Lockett Miller, a Sedona Realtor; member of a family that has farmed and ranched in Arizona since before statehood in 1912.
• Lee Miller, general counsel for the state party and lobbyist.
• Bettina Nava, southwest regional manager for the McCain campaign, in charge of Arizona, Colorado and New Mexico. The former director of McCain’s office now works at the same Phoenix political consulting firm as Kurt Davis and Wes Gullett.
• Michael Rappoport, a longtime executive of the Salt River Project.

http://www.tucsoncitizen.com/ss/byauthor/99693

kat in your hat 11.08.08 at 6:09 pm
bellecat:
I will support the birth certificate escapade, only if it is one big goal to unseal ALL his papers and documents, like his small donor list; his Occidental records; his Columbia records and thesis; his Harvard Law records and law review papers, as well as his medical records; his state senate records; his records of signing up for selective service, and his post- “breached” passport files, etc.
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Unless the whole election were in dispute, imo the BC issue would be very bad to pursue at this point. We shouldn’t be like BO (or Bush Jr in 2000) trying to win on a technicality against a real majority vote (if there is one).

I found this as the first post at the boston globe. I do not think it is worded as well as it could be.

Summers is one of those who think women are inferior but are letting this country be taken over by Mexicans Irish and Italians.

America is a Christian nation.

Hussain takes his orders from the Imams and Biden from Rome. Fight back and save America.

http://www.pumapac.org by annash November 08, 6:31 PM

I mention it because it posts http://www.pumapac.org and we should be concerned about what is said publicly in our name.

The references to Mexican, Irish, Italians, christians, Imans, Biden from Rome. The entire message comes across to me as highly an expression of prejudice. I am none of the above but I would never use these words. If I were one of those mentioned I would be highly insulted and look upon Puma as a prejudice group. I guess I am not finding the correct words. But I am sure some people will see what I am talking about.

I would like to see more positive statements when we use the PUMA name. Or if negative then leave it to a fair discussion of Obama.

here is a PRAWL for everyone to get involved in here:
http://pumapac.org/prowlstalk.html
concerning the BC and getting those “with standing” to take a constitutional stand and get the verifiable evidence and swear an affidavit to it.

What is so beneficial to biased media? What do they gain?

I am sickened by today’s journalism! I can’t believe the power they have and how they manipulated America.

How can we make journalist accountable?

GBPuma

Please contact me off thread re the prowl, I think you have done and excellent job on the research.
my name at hotmail dot com

For example the constitution says if the president is not eligible then the armed forces must not obey the president and must in fact fight against the president to remove him. Read the constitution. The country would be in chaos.

GoPumaGo #81

I agree with you…..the problem is though we don’t know if that post on the Boston Globe was posted by a real PUMA or someone who is trying to make us look bad and is pretending to be a PUMA

JUST GOT ON . .
Could someone please repost Sarah Palin’s info.
I never got anything out to her and would like to. I remember seeing it somewhere for a post or prowl.

Federalists Papers:68

THE mode of appointment of the Chief Magistrate of the United States is almost the only part of the system, of any consequence, which has escaped without severe censure, or which has received the slightest mark of approbation from its opponents. The most plausible of these, who has appeared in print, has even deigned to admit that the election of the President is pretty well guarded.1 I venture somewhat further, and hesitate not to affirm, that if the manner of it be not perfect, it is at least excellent. It unites in an eminent degree all the advantages, the union of which was to be wished for.

It was desirable that the sense of the people should operate in the choice of the person to whom so important a trust was to be confided. This end will be answered by committing the right of making it, not to any preestablished body, but to men chosen by the people for the special purpose, and at the particular conjuncture.

It was equally desirable, that the immediate election should be made by men most capable of analyzing the qualities adapted to the station, and acting under circumstances favorable to deliberation, and to a judicious combination of all the reasons and inducements which were proper to govern their choice. A small number of persons, selected by their fellow-citizens from the general mass, will be most likely to possess the information and discernment requisite to such complicated investigations.

It was also peculiarly desirable to afford as little opportunity as possible to tumult and disorder. This evil was not least to be dreaded in the election of a magistrate, who was to have so important an agency in the administration of the government as the President of the United States. But the precautions which have been so happily concerted in the system under consideration, promise an effectual security against this mischief. The choice of SEVERAL, to form an intermediate body of electors, will be much less apt to convulse the community with any extraordinary or violent movements, than the choice of ONE who was himself to be the final object of the public wishes. And as the electors, chosen in each State, are to assemble and vote in the State in which they are chosen, this detached and divided situation will expose them much less to heats and ferments, which might be communicated from them to the people, than if they were all to be convened at one time, in one place.

Nothing was more to be desired than that every practicable obstacle should be opposed to cabal, intrigue, and corruption. These most deadly adversaries of republican government might naturally have been expected to make their approaches from more than one querter, but chiefly from the desire in foreign powers to gain an improper ascendant in our councils. How could they better gratify this, than by raising a creature of their own to the chief magistracy of the Union? But the convention have guarded against all danger of this sort, with the most provident and judicious attention. They have not made the appointment of the President to depend on any preexisting bodies of men, who might be tampered with beforehand to prostitute their votes; but they have referred it in the first instance to an immediate act of the people of America, to be exerted in the choice of persons for the temporary and sole purpose of making the appointment. And they have excluded from eligibility to this trust, all those who from situation might be suspected of too great devotion to the President in office. No senator, representative, or other person holding a place of trust or profit under the United States, can be of the numbers of the electors. Thus without corrupting the body of the people, the immediate agents in the election will at least enter upon the task free from any sinister bias. Their transient existence, and their detached situation, already taken notice of, afford a satisfactory prospect of their continuing so, to the conclusion of it. The business of corruption, when it is to embrace so considerable a number of men, requires time as well as means. Nor would it be found easy suddenly to embark them, dispersed as they would be over thirteen States, in any combinations founded upon motives, which though they could not properly be denominated corrupt, might yet be of a nature to mislead them from their duty.

Another and no less important desideratum was, that the Executive should be independent for his continuance in office on all but the people themselves. He might otherwise be tempted to sacrifice his duty to his complaisance for those whose favor was necessary to the duration of his official consequence. This advantage will also be secured, by making his re-election to depend on a special body of representatives, deputed by the society for the single purpose of making the important choice.

All these advantages will happily combine in the plan devised by the convention; which is, that the people of each State shall choose a number of persons as electors, equal to the number of senators and representatives of such State in the national government, who shall assemble within the State, and vote for some fit person as President. Their votes, thus given, are to be transmitted to the seat of the national government, and the person who may happen to have a majority of the whole number of votes will be the President. But as a majority of the votes might not always happen to centre in one man, and as it might be unsafe to permit less than a majority to be conclusive, it is provided that, in such a contingency, the House of Representatives shall select out of the candidates who shall have the five highest number of votes, the man who in their opinion may be best qualified for the office.

The process of election affords a moral certainty, that the office of President will never fall to the lot of any man who is not in an eminent degree endowed with the requisite qualifications. Talents for low intrigue, and the little arts of popularity, may alone suffice to elevate a man to the first honors in a single State; but it will require other talents, and a different kind of merit, to establish him in the esteem and confidence of the whole Union, or of so considerable a portion of it as would be necessary to make him a successful candidate for the distinguished office of President of the United States. It will not be too strong to say, that there will be a constant probability of seeing the station filled by characters pre-eminent for ability and virtue. And this will be thought no inconsiderable recommendation of the Constitution, by those who are able to estimate the share which the executive in every government must necessarily have in its good or ill administration. Though we cannot acquiesce in the political heresy of the poet who says: “For forms of government let fools contest That which is best administered is best,” yet we may safely pronounce, that the true test of a good government is its aptitude and tendency to produce a good administration.

The Vice-President is to be chosen in the same manner with the President; with this difference, that the Senate is to do, in respect to the former, what is to be done by the House of Representatives, in respect to the latter.

The appointment of an extraordinary person, as Vice-President, has been objected to as superfluous, if not mischievous. It has been alleged, that it would have been preferable to have authorized the Senate to elect out of their own body an officer answering that description. But two considerations seem to justify the ideas of the convention in this respect. One is, that to secure at all times the possibility of a definite resolution of the body, it is necessary that the President should have only a casting vote. And to take the senator of any State from his seat as senator, to place him in that of President of the Senate, would be to exchange, in regard to the State from which he came, a constant for a contingent vote. The other consideration is, that as the Vice-President may occasionally become a substitute for the President, in the supreme executive magistracy, all the reasons which recommend the mode of election prescribed for the one, apply with great if not with equal force to the manner of appointing the other. It is remarkable that in this, as in most other instances, the objection which is made would lie against the constitution of this State. We have a Lieutenant-Governor, chosen by the people at large, who presides in the Senate, and is the constitutional substitute for the Governor, in casualties similar to those which would authorize the Vice-President to exercise the authorities and discharge the duties of the President.

PUBLIUS.

(((murphy)))

I think we found the bumper music for goofsdad radio show. Let me know what you think

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=00b7SIi4NOE&feature=related

We would of course use a regular mp3 file, but I didn’t know how to post to the thread so you could hear it.

GBPuma, right. So what are you going to do about it?

goofsmom: Extremely long in an LSU-Alabama game….

2:58 to go…LSU with ball on their own 20. 2nd down..and 5…

I wrote a little note on Boston Globe to Annash….just now…Obamabot..for sure…

kat in the hat

COLLECTIVISM= when you do it WITH somebody
vs.
INDIVIDUALISM= when ya do it by yourself?

DANCES, THAT LINK DOES NOT WORK. #404!!!

Are we for or against Summers?
I thought we were against…….

“Summers served as undersecretary and secretary of the Treasury during the Clinton administration, a generally prosperous time.”

Sounds like a good choice.

by turndownobama November 08, 6:49 PM
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Murphy . . Anyone?
JUST GOT ON . .
Could someone please repost Sarah Palin’s info.
I never got anything out to her and would like to. I remember seeing it somewhere for a post or prowl.

kat in your hat 11.08.08 at 6:55 pm

GBPuma, right. So what are you going to do about it?

Right about what and do about what?…please expand.

Okay Pumas

I just read an article that made me very concerned. We always hear about the main cabinet postions that are named by the president. Did you know that there are a total of 3000 job appointments that the president makes?

The article starts talking about it in the 5th or 6th paragraph.

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/opinion/386907_dalemcfeattersonline08.html

#97 tennasepuma: did spell it right?

Excellent info. Good work

GBPuma, I was responding to the bottom of your post # 96.

Ok, guys, please take the time to read the titles of these posts, scroll down and skim: http://uppitywoman08.wordpress.com/

Not cool.

Love those Tigers…Love those Pumas…Yeh..Yeh Yeh..

Here is my opinion of the greatest protest and removal of the bozo….we all do a sit in at the inaugural stand where he would take the oath and by that time have the African hospital and state birth records in hand and walk up to the Chief Justice and hand him the proof and stop them all cold in their seats……I would like to see the secret service and military stop us from deposing an impostor. LOL LOL

1st and goal at the one Alabama…Touchdown…Alabama wins..
I hope they get lost in the woods on the way home…so who said I was ever a good loser?

ladyhawkke 11.08.08 at 7:01 pm
DANCES, THAT LINK DOES NOT WORK. #404!!!
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have yourself a cup of camomile tea while I fix it.

Oh and for the record: If girls really could have played football … when I was little, I would have played linebacker!

It seems to me that anyone who believes that women are not capable of achieving the same level of education as men,who believe that a men performs better should look and see that women are becoming professors much more frequently than men. You can read all about it in The American.(March/April edition).

We at pumapac are standing up for truth in media, for justice in America,we stand against all sexism and racism and every other ism there is. Larry Summers is wrong for all the right reasons,Check it out at http://www.pumapac.org.

omg, NOP! wtg on that Boston Globe comment. I was over there earlier and so upset at that troll’s comment, but look at it this way. We are having an impact! That is why we must be discredited.

Also note that both the Washington Post and the Boston Globe quote The New Agenda. It’s good to see that NOW is at least stepping up to say something….in ENGLAND. But the NEW Agenda has succeeded in becoming a new spokesgroup for women. That’s major.

Apparently, we were mentioned by some fathead pundit on Chris Matthews last night, too, who whined that Obama shouldn’t let “fringe women’s groups” derail Summers.

They’re not liking our impact!

ladyhawkke 11.08.08 at 7:01 pm
DANCES, THAT LINK DOES NOT WORK. #404!!!
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Try now
http://pumapac.org/prowlstalk.html

turndownobama 11.08.08 at 6:37 pm
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Unless the whole election were in dispute, imo the BC issue would be very bad to pursue at this point. We shouldn’t be like BO (or Bush Jr in 2000) trying to win on a technicality against a real majority vote (if there is one).//
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No technicality. The Constitution is firm on the point to help prevent divided or concealed loyalties. Which Obunghole has in abundance.

Mama,
I’m watching you.

Was this paragraph in the Boston Globe article a misprint or something?
http://www.boston.com/news/politics/2008/articles/2008/11/08/summers_could_return_to_dc_bringing_baggage/?page=2#commentAnchor

“…. Summers served as undersecretary and secretary of the Treasury during the Clinton administration, a generally prosperous time. Bill Clinton gave emergency loans to Mexico, which was in a financial crisis, saying that its stability was in the interest of the United States. Noting that the US government eventually made a profit, Summers cited that example in urging Obama to support the $700 billion bailout program passed by Congress last month. ….”

According to this, Summers was a BILL CLINTON appointee as Treasury Sec and did a good job, including making some successful bailout loans — which is the first job of the new Treasury Sec.

If Obama is hiring Clinton 90s people for their old jobs — that’s a GOOD thing.

Harrassing Obama about non-PC appointments may be good fun, but bashing Summers (or other loyal Clinton 90s people) would lead into the question of why Bill Clinton appointed them; do we want to go there?

GBPuma 11.08.08 at 6:45 pm

here is a PRAWL for everyone to get involved in here:
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Wotza PRAWL? A Crawling Prowl? Sounds hard on the knees and elbows …

Girlsrule
Thank you!
I don’t recall who was looking for this… but, good addition to the stuff sack.

PA guy, please don’t spam overseas emails. Thanks.

DancesWithPumas 11.08.08 at 7:39 pm:

I got an email back from you about the graphics with a lot of “code”. It appeared you didn’t get them?

I resent them and added the newest ones. Hope this works.

wontbackdown 11.08.08 at 7:41 pm
DancesWithPumas 11.08.08 at 7:39 pm:
I got an email back from you about the graphics with a lot of “code”. It appeared you didn’t get them?
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Did it say something like:
“The Fox is waiting under the bridge”?

Does anyone know if the Telegraph is a respected paper in England or a tabloid?

There is now a story in it blaming Sarah Palin for causing death threats to Obama!

I will post the article in Breaking News forum.

# 161 was for… Dances

BrianH 11.08.08 at 7:37 pm

GBPuma 11.08.08 at 6:45 pm

here is a PRAWL for everyone to get involved in here:
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Wotza PRAWL? A Crawling Prowl? Sounds hard on the knees and elbows …

Brian you’ve been around here long enough to know a Prawl is a mass effort at emailing, calling, faxing etc. on a specific matter of importance……Puma’s like Lions hunt down there prey in packs if available and it is the pack working together that take down the prey…..LOL

Women earn most of America’s advanced degrees but lag in the physical sciences. Beware of plans to fix the “problem.”

http://www.american.com/archive/2008/march-april-magazine-contents/why-can2019t-a-woman-be-more-like-a-man

Zee #163

Yes he obviously is a pig!!! I’m working on a reply to the a**h*le but I am just so angry!!!

tennaseepuma 11.08.08 at 7:39 pm

Article about women vs men….

http://www.american.com/archive/2008/march-april-magazine-contents/why-can2019t-a-woman-be-more-like-a-man//
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Whew! Long read. But lots of fascinating stuff. Touches on a couple of issues that famed Science/Sci-Fi/social writer Jerry Pournelle is very concerned about, the politicization of education, starting with the “social sciences”, with its emphasis on punishing the “right side of the Bell Curve” to enforce “equalities”, and his Iron Law of Bureaucracy, which says that the rule-tweakers and pencil-pushers ALWAYS gain control of organizations and reduce their productivity catastrophically. Article quote:

Few academic scientists know anything about the equity crusade. Most have no idea of its power, its scope, and the threats that they may soon be facing. The business commu­nity and citizens at large are completely in the dark. This is a quiet revolution. Its weapons are government reports that are rarely seen; amendments to federal bills that almost no one reads; small, unnoticed, but dramatically con­sequential changes in the regulations regarding government grants; and congressional hearings attended mostly by true believers.

As the article points out, as has already happened to some sports programs, if girls/women are not inclined to take up the mandated “opportunities” in sufficient numbers to keep the quotas filled, the solution is to cut back the male programs until the desired ratio is achieved. Which is about as smart as cutting off your face to spite your nose.

wontbackdown 11.08.08 at 7:49 pm
No. Did you write “The Fox is waiting under the bridge”?
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No, but if I had, I’d have to kill you.

All this can get to ya after awhile, ya know what I mean? I think it’s time for a change of scenery~~like time for THIS girl to go out and let her hair down tonight!! I’m sick of feeling down and depressed.
It is said that tomorrow is promised to no one, so all we got is today, Right Now. ‘N I like bein happy.

Logistics Monster has an interesting take on Obama’s volunteerism plans, (yes, I know he fixed his website to say “goal” instead of “require”…but obviously we now know it will be required…)

Logistics Monster refers to the Thirteenth Amendment, which prohibits involuntary servitude.
http://logisticsmonster.com/2008/11/07/anybody-remember-this-document/

(Just so you know.)

There are two possible things coming our way. One is this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ge2J2lNusJs

I know some say, “No way.” Me? I’m trying not to believe it, but if things spiral the way they might, I don’t know.

The second is the reseting of the television signals from analog to all digital on Feb. 17, 2009. This change will render all analog tvs useless unless you get a new box to translate the digital signal back to analog for your television.

I see this change hitting two groups of people very hard: elderly and the poor who rely on their televisions for most if not all of their outside connections. What happens when the television suddenly does not work? We got the $40 coupons from the government to get the new boxes, but in researching, I found out that it’s not JUST the box. Many will need new, directional antenaes OUTSIDE which can point directly to the digital signal. These can cost upwards of $300.

Just two things I see coming and wondering how the new administration would handle such things (or more appropriately USE such things) to create “disorder.”

tennaseepuma 11.08.08 at 8:00 pm

“We don’t accept biology as destiny…. We vaccinate, we inoculate, we medicate…. I propose we adopt the same attitude toward biological sex differences.” In other words, the ubiquitous female propensity to nurture should be treated as a kind of disorder or disease.

Except when it comes to children? I know there are some excellent fathers and men out there, but trusting the nurturing of mankind to them???

DancesWithPumas 11.08.08 at 8:16 pm

Ah, I’m gratified knowing someone else see the need!!!

puma smoke signals…….

Dances:
I just started using a different email address (in gmail) But, I am not real impressed with gmail – sometimes the enahanced version works and sometimes it forces me to switch to “Load the Plain Html Version”.

So, I am really not sure if emails with attachments transmits ok.

(I don’t know what to do with the graphics as a flyer or an Ezine/email cover? – I don’t even know if they would be useful for PumaPac… just piddling when I need a break from some other stressful work)

Obama & Democrats Move To Seize 401(k) Plans
http://therealbarackobama.wordpress.com/

(It’s in first story, scroll down)

PA GUY

pay them off like obama did.

#169 Turndownobama
I don’t get why BO would be setting a trap for PUMAs. Anyway, already did the prowl-He can defend Summers if that’s who he wants. Anyway, Clinton and the Clinton years were different. Just protesting the sexist attitude…I really don’t like giving BO advice anyway.

GBPUMA

The Times of London

kat in your hat 11.08.08 at 8:21 pm
“We need a secondary way to communicate.”–Dances
Ya, I was wondering. I think the internet is going to “change” relatively soon.

Pirate radio really is an option…
or radio from the 6 mile limit.
Sort of like Radio Marti… broadcasting into Cuba.

azpuma 11.08.08 at 7:55 pm
Zee #163

Yes he obviously is a pig!!! I’m working on a reply to the a**h*le but I am just so angry!!!
=========

“Well, I wasn’t going to speculate aloud on the inverse endowment of men who disrespect women, but you seem determined to advertise it!”

DancesWithPumas:

Oh – guess you got the first ones, then. Crap. Should have checked with you.

(Altho, we hate looking at “that one”)

If we’re going to have to now – at least we should put “that one” in the correct light – the way he is instead of the was he says he is…. just saying.

normapapuma 11.08.08 at 8:24 pm
#169 Turndownobama
I don’t get why BO would be setting a trap for PUMAs.
================

To discredit us. To say that our charges of sexism are indiscriminate, that we will attack anyone Obama appoints, that we are even attacking a Clinton appointee thus by extension the Clintons themselves. Then when Obama appoints some terrible sexist who is not connected with the Clintons, we can be dismissed as fanatics who even ‘cried wolf’ against Summers.

wontbackdown 11.08.08 at 8:32 pm
DancesWithPumas:
Oh – guess you got the first ones, then. Crap. Should have checked with you.
———————
I think we went through a couple of tries…recieved first two… today 4 or 6 more? I sent an email about 20 minutes ago.

Btw, “Frankenstein” is the doctor-creator; “Frankenstein’s Monster” is often given the name, incorrectly.

As each day goes by, I see more and more of the Democratic party’s plans. They plan for Obama to be the puppet, nothing more. I believe Bill and Hillary went along with ‘the plan’ by making some kind of mega deal with Obama. They agreed to have Bill and Hill have a really large advisory role, and to appoint people the Clintons supported or approved of.

The DNC is squarely in control. They have Obot on a very very short leash. Some of Obama’s plans may get through, but most won’t get too extreme, unless he finds a way to throw off his keepers.

I may be living in a fantasy, but this is what I am seeing developing.

hey guys

Heneri:
I have ordered bumper stickers to mark this occassion with: IT TAKES A CLINTON to deliver an obama administration.

I agree with you

Well, azpuma, it’s only the truth!

I have posted two bits in the action forum. One is a link to details about a national protest against PROP 8, and the other one is for MASSACHUSETTS voters.

Ed OReilly sent an email out today. During their only debate Ed got John Kerry to vow that if elected he’d serve his entire term of 6 years as Senator. But, sure enough, Kerry had no intention of doing that if Obama won:

(from Ed)
“I was well aware that Senator Kerry had his eye, first and foremost, upon the position of Secretary of State in a potential President Obama Administration. I further called upon Senator Kerry to put up the millions of dollars it would take to hold a special election to fill his seat if his ambition came to fruition.

Well, here we are. Senator Kerry is lobbying for Secretary of State and there is a good chance he may end up leaving the Senate job he was just elected to perform for the next 6 years and Massachusetts taxpayers will be left holding an empty bag.”

====

Anyway, Ed has some ideas, and I left them in the action forum if any Mass Pumas want to grab a local prowl idea!

Can anyone give me an e-mail address for John McCain. He should be man enough to apologize to Sarah Palin for all the leaks his campaign has started.

They are blaming Sarah for McCain losing. Without Sarah, he would not have received the votes he did. The campaign is saying the expensive clothing was all her idea. That is an out and out lie. The RNC sent some assistant out to buy some clothes for Sarah to wear. No one told her to go to the most expensive stores in town.

Senator McCain should hold a press conference and thank Sarah
for all of her help. Give her the credit she deserves.

Romney is out there spreading lies, as he is afraid she will take over the party. There doesn’t seem to be much party there.

The Dems are so afraid of her they are saying any outrageous
thing they can. She does not deserve this.

Please if anyone can give me an e-mail address for McCain, I would greatly appreciate it. Also does anyone have one for Governor Palin?

I may be wrong here…… but I’m afraid that the supremes aren’t going to do anything about the b.c. thing. Why? Because the election is already over, it’s a “done deal”, he’s won, and they are probably afraid of a massive civil war if they find anything… Can anyone tell me- Is that document signed, sealed, and delivered that it is really and truly a demand that he HAS to turn it over by that time next month???? We aren’t missing a judge’s signature or anything again are we?

catsrlove:
Please please please leave Palin’s clothing allowance or costs alone. This is absolutely ludicrous. It is well known that some of Hillary’s pants suits cost thousands of dollars. Both of these women are prominent national women. It does require maintainence. So, just don’t give credence to the BS that the DNC started on this.

How do we know these “leaks” are coming from the McCain camp? Nothing is substantiated. Everything is from an anonymous source.

Don’t go trusting the talking heads now.

catsrlove
What makes you think these “leaks” are from McCains people? Or republicans at all?
Or for that matter that there are any “leaks” at all?

Don’t ever think for a single minute that they do not have the capability of watching every message sent, monitoring every call made, and even using the onstar systems in your automobiles to follow your every move. The only way you could communicate with someone without them knowing it instantly would be to write a snail mail.

Got money in the bank? They can trace every deposit over $6,000. (used to be $10,000 but the terrorist caught on). Get a social security check or military retirement check? gotta have a bank account for direct deposit! Work as a contractor for the government? got to have a DUNS number and annually give them your account information and agree to automatic audits at any time.

Modern technology is the monster in the closet. It opens us up to complete scrutiny by these people, should they decide to pry.

This is why the relaxing of the FISA law was so onerous. It just gave them legal access to more of your privacy.

“…the 3 1/2 years that the article mentioned is, believe it or not, 1/2 of the tribulation that the Bible predicts at the end of the world. The AntiChrist is supposed to reign for 7 years, broken into two parts (3 1/2 each)”

Can these “end times” stories go in the Tinfoil Hat forum? I think they’re interesting, like the end of the Mayan calendar stories, but they belong there now that we have a forum for them!

Despite what he may have said, Al Gore did not invent the Internet. The Internet was invented in the United States during the late 1950s to the 1970s by a group of researchers and scientists at the newly formed Advanced Research Projects Agency (ARPA) after the former Soviet Union launched Sputnik. Realizing that the United States had suffered a great technological blow by allowing the USSR to hold the first successful satellite launch, ARPA set out to create a brand new technology unlike anything that had ever been done before; and the Internet was the result of their hard work.

Maybe we need some PUMA empowerment pow-wows!

DancesWithPumas: “Wasn’t peeing on them before I sent them. huh??”

“The Author” kind of looked like “staking a claim” and it embarrassed me when I saw that, quite frankly. Too damn many projects with separate emails.

I will encourage everyone to home school. Any parent who is not willing to put themselves on the line to educate their children is not living up to their responsiblility. Yes, we do need good public schools, but those public schools should not take the place of the parents, or be an entity where the parents can abdicate their responsibility to educate their children. The choices and the methods are the parents’ RESPONSIBILITY!

If anyone is worried that the public schools will become ‘quasi Nazi’ training camps, you do have an alternative. It is your responsiblility to take those children out and keep their minds safe.

I found public schools to already be something of a training camp for going along with the crowd and thinking inside the box. They allow bullying as a ‘normal’ part of education. It isn’t. They allow the children to recreate instead of educating them. They offer mediocrity to most, and training in arrogance to a few. Overall they are a failure. WHY? Because the parents HAVE abdicated responsiblilit and authority over their children to someone else.

Casper Cat
Rofl. I love it.

Casper Cat

Which home depot?

Blaming Palin for the loss is BS.
I went to a McCain / Palin rally, when Palin was finished speaking,
I with hundreds of others started on our journey back to our cars. In fact I started to feel sorry for McCain, there were so many steady streams of people leaving, while he had only just begun to speak.
And KUDOS to Rush, Hannity along with others for speaking up for Sarah.

Heneri,

“If anyone is worried that the public schools will become ‘quasi Nazi’ training camps” sounds like a topic for TinFoil Hat forum. At any rate, this is not a site to preach against public schools. As I said, I agree parents need to be involved and know what is going on.

Heneri 11.08.08 at 9:08 pm
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“I will encourage everyone to home school. Any parent who is not willing to put themselves on the line to educate their children is not living up to their responsiblility.”
*******************************************
WTF?? How dare you! This statement pisses me off to no end!
Both of my boys go to public school. I work full time and I am still able to be involved with my kids and their schools.
I do as much as can to stay involved in what they are doing. I always check with their teachers. Am I being irresponsible???

OH you are going to love this.
Persoanly I consider Carpathia a muslim.
I was wondering how muslims really see women. I knew it was kinda bad,
I didnt realize what it really is.

© Compiled and distributed by WFAFI 2005, for more information please contact info@wfafi.og
Official Laws against Women in Iran
Limitations on the lives of women are legalized in laws prohibiting women from the presidency,
leadership, judgeship and certain educational fields, as well as by inheritance laws. Firmly rooted in the
principle of vali-e-faqih, Iran’s constitution controls both the public and private lives and role of women.
The concept of male surrogate and guardianship of females is one of the main pillars of Islamic
Fundamentalism in Iran. Iranian women are not free to choose or control various aspects of their lives.
Evidence of such state-sponsor of violence against women is seen in Iran’s constitution.
Article 18 of passport law, married women requires their husband’s permission to apply for a passport.
Article 21 of Iran’s Constitution indicates: “The government must ensure the rights of women in all
respects, in conformity with Islamic criteria…” This leaves it up to the clergymen to interpret the laws
pertaining to women.
Article 83 of the Penal Code, called the Law of Hodoud, stipulates that the penalty for fornication is
flogging, i.e. 100 strokes of the lash, for unmarried male and female offenders.19
Article 102 of Iran’s Constitution indicates: “Women who appear on streets and in public without the
prescribed ‘Islamic Hejab’ will be condemned to 74 strokes of the lash.”26
Article 115 of Iran’s Constitution states the condition for the presidential candidates the law states that:
“The President must come from among the religious and political statesmen (rejal).” The word rejal
literally means men of high achievement.
Article 162 of Iran’s Constitution states the condition for the attorney general. “The head of justice
department and attorney general must be ‘mojtahed’ [a religious man who is able to issue decree],
honest, and knowledgeable in legal subject matters.”
Article 167 of Iran’s Constitution explains: “The Judge is bound to attempt to rule on each case, on the
basis of the codified law. In case of the absence of any such law, he has to deliver his judgment on the
basis of official Islamic sources and authentic fatwa.”
Article 209 of Iran’s Constitution states that woman’s life is valued only half as much as a man’s life. A
convicted man who has intentionally slain a woman is subject to execution only after the payment of
“Deyeh” by the family of the victim. “Deyeh” is defined as a sum of money that the victim’s family has to
pay to the assailant’s family for the physical damages, dismemberment, or death of the assailant.
Article 300 of the Penal code states that the “Deyeh” of a Muslim woman is half of the “Deyeh” of a
Muslim man. By law the life of a woman has half the value of a man in Islamic criminal law in Iran.
In 1998, Iran’s Parliament overwhelmingly rejected the bill on same inheritance rights for man and
women. They said the proposal was contrary to Islamic law, which stipulates that a woman’s share may
only be one half that of a man’s.
Iran’s Parliament adopted a law, in April of 1998, to fully segregate the health care system for women and
girls. This law has seriously compromised women’s health because there are not enough trained female
physicians and health care professionals to meet the needs of all the women and girls in Iran. The same
law also points to another new law of prohibiting the discussion of women’s issues or rights outside the
interpretation of Shari’a (Islamic law). Women’s rights can only be discussed by religious male figures in
Iran.
Family courts do not provide women any protection from abusive husbands. The plight of the Iranian
women is depicted in the story of a woman saying:
“I was married at the age of 12, and I had my first child when I was 13. My husband was unemployed and we
fought all the time. We never applied for a divorce because I was afraid of losing my child. Finally one night, he poured a
bucket of acid over my body and I was completely burned. When I rushed to the sink to flush my face and body. I realized
© Compiled and distributed by WFAFI 2005, for more information please contact info@wfafi.og
that he had shut off the main water supply. I was taken to the hospital. My operation was held up pending advance money
for the surgery, and permission from my husband to operate on my face. My mother sold all of her valuables and provided
the money. My husband said he would only permit my operation if I consented to not seeing my children for the rest of my
life. Finally, with hospital’s pressure on the family court they allowed me to receive the operation on my face and body. ”
Article 105 of the Civil Code “In the relationship between a man and a woman, the man is responsible
as head of the family.” The Council of Guardians, has decreed, “A woman cannot leave her home without
her husband’s permission, even to attend her father’s funeral”.
Article 1117 of the Civil Code states that the husband may ban his wife from any technical profession
that conflicts with family life or her character.
Article 1133 of the Civil Code states: A man can divorce his wife whenever he so chooses and does not
have to give her advance notice.
Article 102 of the Penal code, states that married offenders (adulterers) are liable to stoning regardless
of their gender, but the method laid down for a man stipulates he be buried up to his waist, and a woman
up to her neck.
Article 114 of Iran’s Civil codes states: When rajm [stoning] is being administered on a man he must be
placed in a pit almost down to his waist, and when administered on a woman she must be placed in a pit
almost down to her chest. Such barbaric behavior by the regime includes dictating the style, size and the
administration of stoning while differentiating between male vs. female victims. Female victim up to her
neck to avoid physical escape, however, even if condemned female victim is able to flee the scene,
authorities are obliged to arrest her and execute her by firing squad. As for the male victims, they are
buried up to their waist and if able to escape the scene no further punishment awaits them.
FACTS and FGIURES
- Tens of thousands of women have been executed in Iran since 1979, when the mullahs took
power. They were executed on political grounds, for their opposition to the policies of the ruling
government. Among those executed were tens of pregnant women.
- The worst kinds of torture are inflicted on woman prisoners who oppose the regime. These
include repeated sexual assaults, amputation of body parts and…
- Women played a very active role in the 40,000 teachers’ demonstrations outside the Majlis on
January 12, 2002. In these series of demonstrations, a number of women were arrested and
imprisoned on charges of just participating in a demonstration.
- At least 22 women have been sentenced to stoning or stoned to death during Khatami’s tenure
Girls between ages 10 to 17 are the prime victims of sexual slavery in Iran. In Tehran alone, 4000 street
girls roam the city on daily basis and are subjected to sexual and physical violence. Reports
indicate that 90% of the runaway girls end up in prostitution or sold in Persian Gulf human trafficking
market. Women and girls bare the brunt of Iran’s poor economic conditions. 700,000 children, aged 10
to 14, work in black labor market in Iran. The latest statistics released by Iran’s Organization of
Management and Planning shows that 51% of the country’s population live below the poverty line.
Iran’s deputy Health Minister, Ali Akbar Sayari, admits that 20% of Iranian people go hungry daily. 67% of
the students deprived of education are girls between 11 and 16 years old. Only 11% of Iranian women
are employed. The rate of mental and psychological problems among women is almost 26%. In the
western and southern regions of the country, suicides are mostly self-immolations among women, which
rates more than 6 in every 100,000 women. In a western province of Iran, deputy of governor on women’s
affairs, Heyran Pournajaf, reports “About 70% of those who commit suicide in Ilam are women.” The
director general of social affairs of the governor reports that “90% of these women were between 17 and
35 years old. The real number of suicides is much higher than what we have.” The World Health
Organization has placed Iran on the top 3rd ranking country on death by suicide.

My Email to V Jarrett

Sexism is Bad for Technology

I attended the Engineering School at the University Of Virginia the second year it was open to women. I have seen first hand, the kind of discrimination technically gifted women have had to deal with to bring their best talents to the profession. I have to wonder how much better off our country would be today if the fields of science, technology and engineering had been more open to the pool of talent from women.

People with attitudes like Summers have limited talent pools and are a big part of the reason why America is falling behind in science and technology. He has no business being in any position of decision making where he could continue to do so.

If Obama accepts him, it just adds to the claims that he is contemptuous of women. The Democratic Party’s treatment of Senator Clinton was disgraceful. The Obama Campaign’s reaction to Governor Palin was shameful. And Obama’s own problem was apparent in the behavior of the campaign and his own manner to her. Specifically, the mudslinging, the Lipstick on a Pig reference and his problem talking about her during the third presidential debate. He has a noticeable problem with “uh” and “and” and as he tried to say something about Palin, he could hardly articulate it without every other word being such.

This appointment would say alot about the administration to come.

I believe the discussion here has been that many people fear indoctrination by Obama and forced public service by the students in the public schools.

I offered you an alternative and told you all that is is legal in every state to home school. It was not I that was ready for the tin foil hats. For those who are: Homeschool!

Interestingly enough, the statistics show that most home-schooled kids get better SAT scores than public schooled ones. You know… I used to be a public school teacher long ago (back when I was young). Even back then it was changing so that school was no longer a place where kids LEARNED as much as a place where kids got entertained. Everything (around here anyway) had to be set up in game format or video format…. “modern”. No more using their heads for math problems, let’s all use our calculators together. So many kids on emotion drugs now… why? We had just as many wild ones back when I was a kid, but they were DISCLIPLINED and FORCED to sit and listen. Nobody does that anymore. We didn’t turn out so bad because of it. Contests? “We don’t want a winner because the losers will always be demoralized”… what happened to competition??? No more disclipline and no more real competition. “There’s no such thing as a right or wrong answer” either anymore; because if you tell them it’s the wrong answer they’ll “be scarred for life”. When I was a teacher I’d give misbehaving students and students who did poorly low grades; the principal would go and change them. The school system doesn’t need more MONEY… it needs to go back to the 3 R’s again and DISCIPLINE.

Heneri: I don’t have children (But, I have home-schooled – from the moment of birth – the most adorable, loving, smart shitzu/yorkie mix – that everyone falls head-over-heals for…)

Oh, but what I was going to say about home-schooling: I have known several families that have home-schooled their children and they all have been some of the most mentally, emotionally and socially healthy kids I have ever been around. They are confident, secure, very intelligent, exceptionally respectful and attentive to their peers and adults – and really interesting to be with.

In fact, I think I prefer their development over some of the “private schooled” kids I have known – who seem to have a little more of a “privileged” air about them genuinely confident – not knocking private schools – just certain attitudes I’ve noticed of some attending them.

Zee #192. Seriously that is good news.

Zee
Thanks. I am getting a better idea of carpathia now that I consider him a muslim.

catsrlove 11.08.08 at 8:50 pm
Can anyone give me an e-mail address for John McCain. He should be man enough to apologize to Sarah Palin for all the leaks his campaign has started.
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Office of the Chairman
Mike Duncan, RNC Chairman
Phone: 202-863-8700
Fax: 202-863-8820
Email: Chairman@gop.com

More contacts here:

http://www.gop.com/Connect/ContactUs.htm

McCain contact:

http://mccain.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Contact.ContactForm

DancesWithPumas
Thanks I am sure I will find more just as bizarre.

Hi everyone,
I have been trying to pull out of my funk from Tuesday and have been doing ok except for this nagging feeling that things are NOT GOING TO BE ALRIGHT…. and then I read this article from Isreal Insider that has sent chills down my spine http://israelinsider.ning.com/forum/topics/torah-codes-predict-and-warn after you read it please read the comments under the article and pay close attention to Shlomo’s reply. Thanks

**I recieved this in an e-mail and consider it to be outstanding – read on**
A German Doctor’s View of Islam

This is by far the best explanation of the
Muslim terrorist situation I have ever read. His
references to past history are accurate and clear.
Not long, easy to understand, and well worth the
read. The author of this email is said to be Dr.
Emanuel Tanay, a well known and well respected
psychiatrist.
Whether or not the origin/author is authentic is not relevent. The logic
and import stand alone.

A German’s View on Islam

A man, whose family was German aristocracy prior
to World War II, owned a number of large industries
and estates. When asked how many German people were
true Nazis, the answer he gave can guide our
attitude toward fanaticism. ‘Very few people were
true Nazis,’ he said, ‘but many enjoyed the return
of German pride, and many more were t oo busy to
care. I was one of those who just thought the Nazis
were a bunch of fools. So, the majority just sat
back and let it all happen. Then, before we knew
it, they owned us, and we had lost control, and the end of the world had
come. My family lost everything. I ended up in a
concentration camp and the Allies destroyed my
factories.’

We are told again and again by ‘experts’ and
‘talking heads’ that Islam is the religion of peace,
and that the vast majority of Muslims just want to
live in peace. Although this unqualified assertion
may be true, it is entirely irrelevant. It is
meaningless fluff, meant to make us feel better, and
meant to somehow diminish the spectra of fanatics
rampaging across the globe in the name of Islam.

The fact is that the fanatics rule Islam at this
moment in history. It is the fanatics who march. It
is the fanatics who wage any one of 50 shooting wars
worldwide. It is the fanatics who systematically
slaughter Christian or tribal groups throughout
Africa and are gradually taking over the entire
continent in an Islamic wave. It is the fanatics who
bomb, behead, murder, or honor- kill. It is the
fanatics who take over mosque after mosque.

It is the fanatics who zealously spread the
stoning and hanging of rape victims and homosexuals.
It is the fanatics who teach their young to kill and
to become suicide bombers.

The hard quantifiable fact is that the peaceful
majority, the ’silent majority,’ is cowed and
extraneous.

Communist Russia comprised Russians who
just wanted to live in peace, yet the Russian
Communists were responsible for the murder of about
20 million people. The peaceful majority were
irrelevant.

China’s huge population was peaceful as well,
but Chinese Communists managed to kill a staggering
70 million people.

The average Japanese individual prior to World
War II was not a warmongering sadist. Yet, Japan
murdered and slaughtered it s way across South East
Asia in an orgy of killing that included the
systematic murder of 12 million Chinese civilians;
most killed by sword, shovel, and
bayonet.

And, who can forget Rwanda, which collapsed into
butchery. Could it not be said that the majority of
Rwandans were ‘peace loving’?

History lessons are often incredibly simple and
blunt, yet for all our posers of reason we often
miss the most basic and uncomplicated of points:
Peace-loving Muslims have been made irrelevant by
their silence.

Peace-loving Muslims will become our enemy if
they don’t speak up, because like my friend from
Germany, they will awaken one day and find that the
fanatics own them, and the end of their world will
have begun.

Peace-loving Germans, Japanese, Chinese,
Russians, Rwandans, Serbs, Afghans, Iraqis,
Palestinians, Somalis, Nigerians, Algerians, and
many others have died because the peaceful majority
did not speak up until it was too late.

As for us who watch it all unfold, we must pay
attention to the only group that counts; the
fanatics who threaten our way of life.

Lastly, anyone who doubts that the issue is
serious and just deletes this email without sending
it on, is contributing to the passiveness that
allows the problems to expand. So, extend yourself a
bit and send this on and on and on! Let us hope
that thousands, world wide, read this and think
about it, and send it on – before it’s too late.

Emanuel Tana

gypsy rebel #260. You’re seriously not going to like this answer, but from what I can tell (notice Minnesota) the answer is that the Dems won, so there WAS no voter fraud. There’s only fraud and recounts and missing boxes of votes found under counters in the basement when a Republican wins. (If you think I’m lying, check out the races that are having major recounts right now… They are in races where Republicans won. On that note, they just “found” 100 more votes for Franken in Minnesota, so Coleman only has like a 234 vote lead now… Hmm… wonder if there might be a couple hundred in that one box in the corner of the basement.)

Sorry Dem friends. It’s just that you’re seeing it this year because you happen to be on our side of the coin this time. Just like you didn’t believe us about how vile the MSM is until they came after Hillary.

snowtiger007 11.08.08 at 9:37 pm
DancesWithPumas
Thanks I am sure I will find more just as bizarre.
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Dances doesn’t think she can, or needs to see anymore.
I think most women are aware of what goes on in Iran and ASfghanistan and Africa, and China, and and and … well, you get the picture. Now you know why we don’t at the thought of someone slicing and dicing and mincing a penis… etc.

^ Now you know why we don’t cringe at the thought

Heneri, I don’t really want to encourage people who believe in the amero and think that overnight our kids in public schools will be turned into commies, nazis, or whatnot. That attitude is exactly what the troll on the Boston Globe was spoofing.

It is a valid concern to worry about about schools and to be vigilant so that our kids aren’t being indoctrinated, but you were telling people to move to other states. Now, I happen to know that there are fundamentalists advocating that home-schoolers all move to places like South Carolina. Good people, but that is extreme. Home-schooling doesn’t work for parents who work full-time, or single parents, or even parents with an only child and no other network of home-schoolers to socialize with.

I already said I’ve known bright, well-adjusted children who have been home-schooled. But I don’t believe this is the place to feed paranoia about public schools or to preach the merits of home-schooling.

Please go upstairs

Wontbackdown:
I sent my eldest daughter to public school where she did OK, though I always felt I had to supplement her education, as they were holding her back. Some of the teachers disagreed with me, saying I was wrecking their lesson plans. She was always roughly a year ahead of most of her peers.

Then my youngest child turned out to be severely dyslexic. The public school misdiagnosed her as retarded. We took her (against the wishes of the school) to a private neurologist and had her diagnosed for real. We discovered that she was actually about 60% into the genius range, but had a 75% processing disability conglomerately.

The school sued us and tried to prosecute us for child neglect because we put her into a private rehab program designed by 4 therapists and two doctors who specialized in her disability. We fought these people through 4 layers of hearings, trials, etc. all the way to Federal Court. It took almost two years to get there. In that length of time our daughter had improved tremendously. The school had an excuse: They told the court that they could not possibly be as successful as a private program, run by a parent, specially designed for the child’s specific needs!

The Federal Court Judge came unglued. He told them that the school had a responsibility to provide such a program by federal mandate, and in lieu of that the parents had the RESPONSIBILITY to provide for the child’s needs, and that the school could be forced to pay for it. They agreed to pay us a settlement for our trouble.

We took our older daughter out of school to home school her two years later. She attemded public school part time during her highschool years.

I don’t condemn anyone who has success in the public schools. that was not my point. I simply know from experience that a parent can work full time and home school. I did it, and even worked hands on with my daughter’s special needs program.

I sometimes sudder to think what would have happened to my youngest child had we ABDICATED our parental responsibility to the school and allowed them to classify our daugher’s disorder incorrectly.

The federal judge is correct: IT IS THE PARENTS’ RESPONSIBLITY TO STAY ON TOP OF THE NEEDS OF THEIR CHILDREN, INCLUDING THEIR EDUCATION.

Seattlegirl 11.08.08 at 9:44 pm
But it is up to the Republicans to brand their party as being for women. It shouldn’t be hard having put Palin on the ticket and since they did a good job with female judges and cabinet appointments.
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They were doing well with Sarah, she was bringing out GOP women for their women’s issues as well as attracting PUMAs to the GOP. I’m surprised that some GOP men are now trashing Sarah (perhaps shortsighted Romney supporters?), and Fox going along with it. What can they gain compared to the women they will lose?

Woodie 11.08.08 at 9:02 pm
Despite what he may have said, Al Gore did not invent the Internet.

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What HE [Gore] may have said? Learn the facts of 2000 please. Gore was misquoted / misrepresented. Just like Hillary and Bill were this time. And Summers may have been, for all I know.

TXRepGirl To be nice, I’ll say it politely – you don’t know me well enough to know my “side of the coin,” as I went Independent quite awhile ago.

I’ve learned more here from the PUMAs than I knew in a lifetime!

Fraud is Fraud!