Where’s the Change!?

1 Woot!

Just want to say hi and bye cause I’m going to pick up my little Becca. She’s doing better, but she isn’t out of the woods yet.

OMG I’m I first ,, I’ve never been first..YES

oh slyt2, if feel so sad reading your “1st” post. lord, just seems like everything’s a disappointment these days!!!!!!!!

REPOSTING WONTBACKDOWN’S LIST:

Obama has less than 11 weeks to staff his new administration. Some names often mentioned as possible appointees to top posts:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081107/ap_on_el_pr/obama_potential_appointees#full

DEFENSE SECRETARY
Defense Secretary Robert Gates.
Former Navy Secretary Richard Danzig.
Sen. Chuck Hagel, R-Neb., critic of Iraq war, retiring from Senate.
Sen. Jack Reed, D-R.I., member of Senate Armed Services Committee.

TREASURY SECRETARY
Timothy Geithner, president of Federal Reserve Bank of New York.
Former Federal Reserve Chairman Paul Volcker.
Lawrence Summers, former treasury secretary and one-time Harvard University president.

SECRETARY OF STATE
Gov. Bill Richardson, D-N.M., former U.N. ambassador and energy secretary.
Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., 2004 presidential nominee.
Sen. Richard Lugar, R-Ind., former chairman of Senate Foreign Relations Committee.
Sen. Chuck Hagel, R-Neb., critic of Iraq war, retiring from Senate.

ATTORNEY GENERAL
Eric Holder, former deputy attorney general.
Arizona Gov. Janet Napolitano. CRACK IN THE GLASS CEILING?
Rep. Artur Davis, D-Ala., member of House Judiciary Committee.
Massachusetts Gov. Deval Patrick, former assistant U.S. attorney for civil rights.

ENERGY SECRETARY
Former Rep. Philip Sharp, D-Ind., president of Resources for the Future think tank.
Kansas Gov. Kathleen Sebelius. CRACK IN THE GLASS CEILING?

EPA ADMINISTRATOR
Lisa P. Jackson, commissioner of New Jersey Department of Environmental Protection. CRACK?
Mary Nichols, head of California Air Resources Board. CRACK?

Kathleeen McGinty, former secretary of Pennsylvania Department of Environmental Protection. CRACK?

HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES SECRETARY
Former Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle, D-S.D.
Howard Dean, chairman of Democratic National Committee, physician, former Vermont governor.
Kansas Gov. Kathleen Sebelius. CRACK? – ON OTHER LISTS

TRANSPORTATION SECRETARY
Jane Garvey, former head of Fed Aviation Administration.CRACK?
Rep. James Oberstar, D-Minn., chairman of House transportation committee.
Mortimer Downey, former deputy transportation secretary.

INTERIOR SECRETARY
Former Oregon Gov. John Kitzhaber.
Former Alaska Gov. Tony Knowles.
Sen. Ken Salazar, D-Colo., former executive director of Colorado Natural Resources Department.

HOMELAND SECURITY SECRETARY
James Lee Witt, former FEMA director.
Los Angeles Police Chief Bill Bratton.
Former New Jersey Gov. Tom Kean, chairman of 9/11 commission.
Rep. Jane Harman, D-Calif., Chair of Homeland Sec Int Subcmtt. CRACK?

NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISER
James B. Steinberg, former deputy national security adviser.
Susan Rice, Frmr Asst Sec of State for African affairs. CRACK?

EDUCATION SECRETARY
Colin Powell, former secretary of state, former chairman of Joint Chiefs of Staff.
Former North Carolina Gov. Jim Hunt.
Arne Duncan, chief executive officer of Chicago public schools.
Inez Tenenbaum, former South Carolina schools super CRACK?

AGRICULTURE SECRETARY
Tom Buis, president of National Farmers Union.
Former Iowa Gov. Tom Vilsack.
Rep. Collin Peterson, D-Minn., chairman of House Agriculture Committee.

OFFICE OF BUDGET AND MANAGEMENT DIRECTOR
Rep. John Spratt Jr., D-S.C., chairman of House Budget Committee.
Gene Sperling, economic aide to President Clinton.
Jason Furman, Obama’s campaign economic policy director.
Rep. Jim Cooper, D-Tenn.

HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT SECRETARY
Valerie Jarrett, Obama friend, chairman and CEO of Habitat Co. CRACK?
Rep. James Clyburn, D-S.C.

LABOR SECRETARY
Rep. George Miller, D-Calif., chairman of House Education and Labor Committee.
Former Rep. David Bonior, member of Obama’s Transition Economic Advisory Board.
Andy Stern, president of Service Employees International Union.

Oh geesh Fightforfreedom i didn’t even see your post I thought you were part of Murphy talking points.. Now i am really embarrassed.

Here’s the specific page on the President-elect’s web site to leave comments:

http://change.gov/page/s/yourvision

Lynette Long’s link. “Cabinet Watch” thread is third one down:

http://www.lynettelong.com/my_weblog/2008/11/parity-in-the-c.html?cid=138163538#comments

With Obama now elected as pres, the people that voted for him will have nothing else left to complain about. Racist, there biggie, is now off the table, or an AA would never had been elected. So, where do they go from here?

slyt2 – freudian slip – we’re all probably feeling a bit of “doom” these days!

I have nothing brilliant to say today – except that I still can’t look at a pic of Obama without feeling really sick and disgusted. apparently tht is how it is, everywhere you turn, you will see his face.

wontbackdown – i’m not expecting anything! but i have to have a voice. trust me, i’m not being naive. but nor can i stand by silently.

sly no worries:) I didn’t mean to be first with that
long post!

murphy 11.07.08 at 3:40 pm
Zee — I sent the NOW contact info to actioncenter@pumapac.org
fyi for all– you can always just go ahead and send links or contact info straight to that address. You dont need to ask for permission or anything. actioncenter@pumapac.org
Although there is a requirement of being polite, patient, and humble.
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Nah. But, if we don’t have a personal relationship off the blog, and your email contains curse words, whether in your opinion or directed at me, I delete it.

Anna7000 11.07.08 at 4:26 pm

Oh sweet! I have worked with Kathleen McGinty while she was Secretary of the Pensylvania Dept of Environmental Protection here in PA. She would be a great pick for EPA Administrator. She abandoned her post here early and we all suspected she was looking for a post in a BO adminstration. Big, big, big on alternative energy sources. The woman is apprently an alternative energy source herself – up at 4am, on the treadmill at 5am while conducting press interviews at the same time, and raising three small kids. A real whirlwind, very bright, very articulate – and she’s travelled abroad discussing energy issues with other countries. Needless to say I am happy to see her name on that list.

I heard one of my peers today saying: We did it! We got Obama into office. NOW lets see what those old bitches in PUMA think.

Middle age female 11.07.08 at 4:28 pm

With Obama now elected as pres, the people that voted for him will have nothing else left to complain about. Racist, there biggie, is now off the table, or an AA would never had been elected. So, where do they go from here?
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I don’t think the race issue will ever be off the table. Their comeback will alsway be “what about he other half of America that didn’t vote for him”. That’s my opinion.

Oh and I forgot to mention Kathleen McGinty worked for Al Gore during the Clinton administration.

Mick
So glad Becca will be home with you, she will mend faster with your care…..no place like home. Your daughter must be relieved and Becca will be so happy to be with her, love is healing.

I can’t believe of all the women he isn’t giving his biggest fan a job in the cabinet ,his pit bull McCaskill. Oh well she had the honor of staring at him and daydreaming about him maybe that’s all she needed.

gumbykat
The other half didn’t vote for him because Biden was not a brother.
Condi Rice or Powell or Jesse Jr for VP – then we would have had a 102% voting for OBAMA/rice(Powell)(jessejr)!

the 2% excess is due to ACORN registration that included Tony Romo, TO, Martin Grammatica (ACORN did not know he is not in Cowboys anymore) and finally Mickey Mouse and D’Duck!

We’re in a scary time. I will admit it…I see so many things that make me sick around here at my university. All the students seem to be fake and plastic, they don’t seem to have any of their own thoughts. I feel like I am one that is vastly out numbered among the idiots that are here on campus.

Donna Godzilla

Anyone interested should listen to this archived radio show from last night… listen to a good chunk… it takes a while before it gets good.

http://www.talkstreamlive.com/listen.aspx?showid=3481

hi pumas ‘i guess one thing i hope is that oblah blahs freakin arrogance and lack of morals will backfire on pelosi and the rest of the white suckas who got him elected ‘and he throws them all under the bus because he is now concerned with how the history books will depict him and his (cough ) presidency
how great will it be to watch these assholes cannabalise eachother

LotusBoy 11.07.08 at 4:53 pm

Yes, we all age. That is one thing that NONE of us can avoid. What really upset was that he considered all the members of PUMA to be old bitches…if it wasn’t for the fact that I was in my French class I would have gave him an ear full.

Oh nevermind. They switched it with a photo that shows the women.

I hope I am not repeating information.
I talked to comcast about c-span2 and he found it on channel 109. I am in the San Francisco East Bay, Oakland.

NObama – I think we got some wired crossed. Why did you write that post? I’m confused as to why you seem ticked off. I posted the info, you seemed happy to see it, I thought you were crediting me so I wanted to make sure wontbackdown got the hat tip for it, I acknowledged your excitement about one of the possible appointees and encouraged you to act on it. Did I miss something? I think there’s been a misunderstanding. What’s up?

Middle age female : Not only is their big argument that racism is the root of all American problems off the table but one supposes BO will appoint about 3 young and liberal (probably male) Supreme Court justices and balance the court for about 30 years. This takes their usual way of dealing with female voters, threaten them with loss of reproductive rights due to the courts, right off the table too. It will be interesting to see how they deal with these losses. I think one term of BO will be enough.

LotusBoy 11.07.08 at 4:59 pm

Sorry to inform you but I am white….I’m not Asain. I took the name of a character from a manga that I am writing. And one area of my studies is Japanese culture.

but thanks I shall call on the Samurai spirit even if I am not Japanese.

MakowashiNatsuko 11.07.08 at 4:55 pm

LotusBoy 11.07.08 at 4:53 pm

Yes, we all age. That is one thing that NONE of us can avoid. What really upset was that he considered all the members of PUMA to be old bitches…if it wasn’t for the fact that I was in my French class I would have gave him an ear full.

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Next time he gets high under there, may be he will realize or may he is going ga ga over Obama! so he doesn’t need them PUMA’s. Thank God if he is that so he doesn’t procreate another scum like himself

mzebest : Hey they must have brought in a ballot counting team from Seattle to do the Franken recount! Last election we just kept finding ballots in the court house basement until the Dem governor was in place. Then we put 7 ACORN worker in prison of election fraud.

MakowashiNatsuko – that is fine if you are not Asian.
PUMA is the only qualification here unless I have something to say to demographic pockets of people

Question for the day: Why is it that when Senators and House of Representative individuals leave the Senate and House, they are always much wealthier than when they enter?
Can anyone name anyone in the Senate and House who are not millionaires? Or whose holdings, house etc does not hit the million dollar mark minimally?

Why is that? These are the people who say they feel the pain of the middle class…These are the people who run this country…Why is it that so many Americans are so ignorant?

Dances: “Womanist” I like that and I think I am one now too!

thank you ipotter, signed! I will post on gretawire
as well!

BO is in his honeymoon Phase. I will boycott Delmonte. I have never used them anyway. I shop the commissary at Hanscom AB. I buy Green Giant. Now we must rebuild America. I hope every PUMA signs on to The T. Boone Pickens Plan, or at least take the time to visit his website. He wants to keep our money here. Replace 22% of the oil with Natural Gas cars. Give a cheaper rate to convert cars. Replace our Natural Gas consumption for power with wind. Those businesses mean jobs.
I love America. I do not care for BO but we must go forward. I think he is dishonest and without integrity.We cannot sell this country we must fight for it.

REVISED MEDIA LETTER
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To the Media:

MSNBC commentator, Joe Scarborough, recently made a simple and eloquent statement during a program that addressed, among other things, the media’s role in reporting, and specifically as such reporting pertains to our new President-elect. In referring to coverage of Senator Obama, he stated that it is the media’s job to “hold his feet to the fire”, as needed, in order to provide accurate reporting of news to the public. Sadly, such journalistic standards were not upheld this election year which left the public woefully uninformed. But, be that as it may, I would like to address a current issue of concern in the hopes that you will watch closely and join Mr. Scarborough in upholding journalistic standards of fair and unbiased reporting. I look forward to your coverage of gender equality as news of Senator Obama’s cabinet appointments unfold.

As I’m sure you know, women comprise 51% of the U.S. population. Regrettably, the Democratic Party could not see fit to nominate the first woman for President. Nor could Senator Obama see fit to select a woman as his running mate.

We are now at a juncture where Senator Obama is starting to appoint Cabinet members. The media recently released a short list of those who are being considered for these top posts. Sadly, only 20% of those on the list are women. As Senator Obama has based his campaign on promises of hope and change, I am watching closely to see if at least 50% of his cabinet will be filled with appointments who are female. A quick assessment of his short list does not bode well in this regard.

I look forward to your coverage of this important issue in American politics and hope that as you hold Obama’s feet to the fire, you will address gender disparity. If women comprise 51% of the population, is it not time we have equal representation to the highest posts of the land? And if not now, when?

Sincerely,

Grizzly: Yeah! I like womanizers for male PUMAs however you probably should stick with womanist also just to keep yourselves out of too much trouble.

I am still in a daze about this whole election.
I am hopeful that people will come to know the real BO. All of his shady dealings, lies, cheating etc. That will make me happy. When people snap out of it and realize what they did. I will be happy and yet a little sad for those that realize they were played from the start.

mzebest 11.07.08 at 5:04 pm

Lol that’s funny! I have to share that with one of my friends!

LotusBoy 11.07.08 at 5:06 pm

and thanks for telling me that. We are all PUMA brothers and sisters here.

And sorry that I disappeared my computer was acting slow and I had to restart it.

from huffington post
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rob-kall/the-obama-clinton-cabinet_b_141950.html

LotusBoy 11.07.08 at 5:04 pm

I look at the Obama supporters almost like they have an orgasm when he comes onto the tv. That they get some sexual pleasure out of seeing him…am I the only one that sees that?

reposting from below.

Can we run ads in AARP asking about health care (not on the table for 2009) and women’s issues. Our contact info will Pumapac.org. We can increase our membership. We can ask for targeted donations.

aloha

wise post

+

i rarely, if ever, idenfity myself as a “PUMA”. i see no point.

#44Murphy: Oh, then I definitely need to come up with some more NOP incantations soon as a good reserve.

Obama is Fraud. He was a Fraud on Monday, Nov.3. He is and remains one on 11-7-08. And guess what? After he is inaugurated, He still is a Fraud. One’s ontological condition does not change because one’s social position does.
Barack Obama, I call you what you are and you will ever be that !

#92 MakowashiNatsuko

When I see him with his nose in the air, tend to think of that tune by Right Said Fred, “I’m Too Sexy,” and have a vision of Chris Matthews drooling at his feet.

aloha

ps i agree obama will do what he wants. but i still feel (perhaps naively) that it’s worthwhile to highlight important issues to the media in the (probably naive) hope that they will focus on them. i’d love nothing more than to hear someone in the media scrutinize obama’s short list and picks from a gender perspective. helps to expose him all the more quickly.

ipotter 11.07.08 at 5:34 pm

Yes, I can see that too. But still it is like he is some greek god. I saw one person’s window here at the dorm and they had a picture of the Dark Lord as the god Adonis and that the Dark Lords Wife was Venus…made me want to vomit on the side walk.

MakowashiNatsuko

Oh…there are a lot of fantasies about Obama. I used to get a kick out of watching Pelosi and Andrea Mitchell. They can hardly contain themselves when they are in his presence.

I admit I’ve salivated over many black men and actually married an Asian (I’m Irish American), but I never thought Obama was sexy. To me his sexual energy was more “weasley” – not a turn on. Ah to each their own.

Oh, and Rahm the man was smack dab in the middle of the Fannie/Freddie set up. Lovely.

OH, and now O wants Grantholm (sorry can’t spell her name) to head up the Economic Advisory committee. Grantholm, for those who don’t know is the governor of Michigan, which has been in a one-state recession since she took office, and she is now proposing… get this… more taxes to fix the situation that the higher taxes broke in the first place.

Really. REALLY. It’s rabbit hole time!

I get a daily communication from Karl Rove because I wanted to know just what he was up to. Today he mentions his article in the WSJ in which he gives the reasons why the President-Elect won!

This is my comment on his article. It is certainly not as thoughtful or articulate as some of you could have done, but it expresses my thoughts of the moment.

“Please, Mr. Rove, As true as your statements are, your premise is not exactly truthful.
You failed to mention the massive fraud that took place during the primaries especially the caucuses.
You also simply ignore that the DNC blatantly gave the nomination to Obama, forcing Senator Clinton out of the race. The convention was a complete sham. You, of course, know all this. I haven’t figured out yet just why you and the Republican leadership didn’t really want McCain/Palin to win. But, be that as it may, you are being dishonest in ignoring the whole of the reasons that Obama now is the President=Elect. He certainly did not win it fair ans square. You would know something about his campaign’s methods.

#68 Seattlegirl 11.07.08 at 5:05 pm

mzebest : Hey they must have brought in a ballot counting team from Seattle to do the Franken recount! Last election we just kept finding ballots in the court house basement until the Dem governor was in place. Then we put 7 ACORN worker in prison of election fraud.

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Really? So was there arrests? Did the fraud fail I hope? I don’t want Franken to get by with this crap. Actually, I want everyone connected to this “Progressive” movement to serve time in jail… but I’ll settle for ACORN fraudulent behavior being uncovered and appropriately punished.

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#71 ipotter 11.07.08 at 5:08 pm

#67 mzebest

Can you believe it? One of the comments on that video says its racist! Geeze, guessing we are going to be called racists for the next 4-8 years.

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Absolutely! The race card ain’t going away… despite what anyone says. This is a Bill Ayers ploy from way back. His whole rebellion revolves around the idea of fueling the race card. I think he purposely picked a black man to be the puppet for his plan so he could continually throw that card out there. I read an article in which he used the race card to manipulate a woman into willing submit to being raped by a black man to prove she wasn’t a racist. She talked about how there was no term for “date rape” pressure back then and she carried the guilt of the experience for the rest of her life. I have the link to the article at home. After reading the article it instantly made me connect the dots that this race card thing has been Ayers little experiment in behavior manipulation for many years now.

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#86 MakowashiNatsuko

Glad you liked the video… I thought there was a lot of truth in that humor.

MakowashiNatsuko 11.07.08 at 4:39 pm

I heard one of my peers today saying: We did it! We got Obama into office. NOW lets see what those old bitches in PUMA think.
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I, for one, will think – he is your problem now, I voted for the good guy!!!

Middle age female 11.07.08 at 5:39 pm

That’s right I didn’t vote for the Dark Lord.

I feel the reason the media, etc is kissing butt now is because they are afraid of Obama and what he will/can do to them. Several of them just may be off the radio waves soon if Obama has anything to do about it.

BrianH 11.07.08 at 5:40 pm

Lord of the Rings reference really, or I could call him You know who, or I could start calling him Jester again.

To those posting the Patriot Brigade links: I’ve linked 5X, and gotten 3 different shows. The current one is an interview about the Dark Lord’s time in Hawaii, and the Red background of his parent(s) and grandparents, etc.

WHAT IS THE CONTENT OF THE SHOW YOU’RE REFERRING TO? THE ARCHIVE SYSTEM THERE IS FUBAR-ED!

LotusBoy: I tried and was very successful hardly ever to look at or see Ojingo or his supporters. But, if in fact, that is the case, then one would have to say that this is perhaps the last human response system from which, through which and in which these simpletons operate. Basic responses may change as this same group has to pay more attention to “bread”, i.e. attaining it…than the operation of their progenitive and/or the relief of their boredom inoculations of sex. Who knows?
Maybe a new form of entertainment ..reality tv…will gives some “insight” in the future as to which basic human urges will prevail? Bread or Sex…what will you choose and why?

LotusBoy: The question was rhetorical …not meant for you!

Anna7000 11.07.08 at 4:34 pm:

Anna, I wasn’t being snide to you. I thought you post was really pointed and an excellent suggestion.

I have no idea if or how I ticked anyone off, including NObama Dem.

My post was just highlighting the fact that there are many, many women that could have gone on that list and it seemed pretty short on the possible women “being considered or mentioned”.

I was not knocking the women on that list – well, I am not real fond of Susan Rice – nor was making fun of your suggestion. I just found the list typical – “those being mentioned for possible posts” are that historically a majority of men.

Sorry if I offended anyone – it was not intentional.

aloha – i’m in complete agreement. i’ve been posting ideas about how to regroup and lay a solid foundation for days now. but, this nor any other grassroots org isn’t my baby, so i have no control in how any of these orgs continue to function in the days ahead. i stopped posting my brainstorming ideas cause i did so a few times and don’t want to be obnoxious about it. we all have ideas, but this is murhpy’s baby.

wontbackdown – oh no! this is taking on a life of it’s own. it was nobama who misunderstood one of my posts. we’re cool (i hope).

NOP – I am so excited cause 1) I finally can type “NOP” and know what it stands for!, and, 2) I will keep that tidbit of info handy should I bump into her again (I do believe her abode is larger than 2400 sq ft). BTW, where’d you find out about that square footage and taxation issue?

I just want my generation to get a brain. I feel as though my generation has lost its complete mind.

I really do feel bitter that most of my generation have been drunk the kool-aid and is more interested in what is the cool and the now then what has substance to it.

I know you all have heard this rant from me before. But it really bothers me.

#122 BrianH

“To those posting the Patriot Brigade links: I’ve linked 5X, and gotten 3 different shows. The current one is an interview about the Dark Lord’s time in Hawaii, and the Red background of his parent(s) and grandparents, etc.

WHAT IS THE CONTENT OF THE SHOW YOU’RE REFERRING TO? THE ARCHIVE SYSTEM THERE IS FUBAR-ED!”

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Yeah — sometimes the link works to the archived show and sometimes it just brings up the most current show being aired. Don’t know how to find a reliable archive link. The show I was hoping it would link to was a conversation between Andy Martin and Lan Lamphere. Andy Martin was saying that we (as a people – as Americans) can give credibility to the whole idea of making Obama accountable for presenting his Birth Certificate through the Electoral College.

He went on to say that we shouldn’t waste our time with the Electoral Representatives that are Democrats since they will be in the tank for Obama and we will get no where with them. But we need to light a fire under the Republican Electoral and make them stand up to the Dem side and do their part that the original INTENT OF THE CONSTITUTION and the founding fathers had in mind when putting the Electoral College into place. He said the original INTENT argument would be an extremely valid one from a legal standpoint with the Supreme Court Judges too. Especially Scalia. You can read about some of the ideas discussed here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2127721/posts

http://countusout.wordpress.com/2008/11/07/martin-v-obama-court-hearing-tuesday-november-18th-in-the-circuit-court-for-honolulu-at-1030-am-to-force-release-of-obamas-original-birth-files/

Alohapuma,

Thanks for the response.

I hadn’t considered the consequences of being the butt again, and losing, again. Maybe we should wait awhile and let him show his colors.

I’ll bet his bots are eavesdropping and reporting back, right now.

Sausage Fest!!

Anna7000:

OK! Good! It looked like it grew wheels and took off in another direction to me also! LOL!

Just wanted to let you know. I liked your post and thought it was a good reminder – with which I was posting – yes! We need to me reminding Obama that we are watching developments on his selection process.

PumaBear,

Of course they are watching us!

A Million Voices for Sarah Palin:
http://www.newswithviews.com/Devvy/kidd411.htm

Comrade Obama is not America’s next President
http://www.newswithviews.com/Devvy/kidd411.htm

I think Rahm Emanuel is going to make an excellent, ruthless, guard dog.

Excerpt from an article – American Spectator

Transparent Obama Administration is a Myth

UNPRECEDENTED AND SECRETIVE
Lost amid all of the jubilation of the Obama victory was the announcement by the Obama transition team that it had set up a separate transition program beyond the one that is paid for by the American taxpayer. Called the “Obama/Biden Transition Project,” it is a 501(c)4 tax-exempt organization, with no limits on the contributions it can receive and no requirements to divulge the names of individuals or organizations that give it money.

Traditionally, the victorious campaign has set up inaugural funds, as well as funds to deal with legal costs and other expenses to close down the campaign. Others have set up quasi-corporate offices to deal with transition issues, such as in 2000, when, with the election in doubt, the Bush-Cheney team set up a private transition office in McLean, Virginia, covering the costs from campaign contributions and other fundraising. Ultimately, the federal government, headed by the Government Services Administration, covers the cost of the transition staff, providing it with office space and all equipment.

No one is certain that any political organization has ever set up a tax-exempt entity that would be shrouded in such secrecy, particularly when Obama claimed he would be more transparent about the way things were done.

“To my knowledge, it’s never been done, and people should be asking why the Obama people chose to do it this way,” says a longtime Washington Republican, who has been involved in transitions for the Reagan and Bush campaign teams.

According to an Obama campaign staffer who is being retained for the transition and inauguration planning, the “project” is intended not only to identify personnel for the Obama Administration, but to then send those project employees who know all of the senior staff in the various Cabinet departments and federal agencies out into the corporate and lobbying community to leverage those contacts.

“It’s taking the old ‘K Street Project’ that Republicans had and doing it twice as fast and on steroids,” explains the aide. “So, if you have a Project aide working on Commerce Department transition, that Project aide will be more likely to get a senior lobbying job because of all those connections at Commerce. That former Project aide will also be able raise more money for Democrats in this town and help others with jobs and such.”

As well, the nonprofit may also serve as a haven for Obama supporters and campaign loyalists who for one reason or another can’t be employed by the Administration or in the federal government. “There are some people who have been with us from the beginning who are clearly political liabilities or who won’t be able to qualify for a job, say, because they can’t get a security clearance,” says another aide, who was unaware of the unique Obama transition project’s tax status.

Regardless of the purpose, Obama campaign officials say there is no intention of shutting down the 501(c) 4 Project after the transition is over.

slyt2
I watched the video. The police took that guy into custody to protect him.
Wasn’t because he was wearing a McCAin t-shirt. That crowd , sooner or later would have killed him.
Notice at the end the police turn and face the crowd with clubs drawn and a I dare you expression.

I just wanted to say this.

To all those who say Hillary will never be president
I bet people said the same when McCain lost to Bush in 2000.
People said “He’ll be to old to run and the party will have moved to far to the right” or “there will be a new person who runs after Bush, McCain will be an old face” and tossed McCain to the side, thinking he would continue his work in the senate and never run again.

Guess what……they were wrong. History has a way of repeating itself. They are saying the same things that Hillary will continue her senate work and will never run again because she will be too old.

Remember Hillary said her chances were close to zero, not zero and she said she would never run in 2008. If Hillary still wants the presidency, which I think she does, she will run again. Remember only Hillary knows what Hillary wants.

She will only be 68 in 2016, three years younger than McCain and is in much better condition than McCain is health wise. and remember women live longer than men.

Plus after cheating Hillary out the first time, I doubt someone really strong will run against her in the primary.

Of course….some letters to Hillary for encouragement could really help and letters asking her to run again.

Imagine if lots of PUMAS and their family members wrote letters to her at one time, she might get some ideas………

You may call this wishful thinking and it could very well be, but it does not hurt to try.

BTW, we need to get Harry Reid out in 2010. He is up for re-election in Nevada.

I’ll bet his bots are eavesdropping and reporting back, right now.

Let them . Who cares?
If they are so paranoid about us exercising our rights let them waste their time. We act above board, unlike these sleazy bots.

More protests against Prop 8 in Calif. targets are Mormons, Catholics and other regions….glad the media is covering it………..
Prop. 8 protesters target Mormon temple in Westwood

matt2008A
She could run. How many of her supporters will now stand with her?
A lot have left.Never to return.

LotusBoy 11.07.08 at 4:53 pm

Some of us might be considered ‘young’ bitches. LOL

I would like to start a donation for obie’s mole. Either to have it removed or a tattoo of a hammer and sickle on it.
Damn, I won’t want to see his face and hear his kool-aid laden voice for four frickin’ years. Wish his face would be clouded on all blog top posts in the future to protect the identity of the mole.

PUMAbear
Hello! Good to see you as usual.
I’ve uploaded the “idiot” link to Comic Relief for easy access. Thanks!
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NOW contact info is Sexism section, with sample letter
Added sample letter to Joe Scarborough to Media Contacts -Resources

#20 freddie,
don’t worry, misery loves company & I know I feel the same way!
Chin up, maybe the public and the media get sick & on overload quicker than we think they will!!

good evening , my PUMA family!! We are still here!!! Well, sorry if this has been posted before, but looked pretty interesting to me! good for starting change!!
http://www.wthr.com/global/story.asp?s=9299280

snowtiger007 11.07.08 at 6:21 pm

That video realled sucked. But the guy might have been killed by that mob if the cops hadn’t been there.

G2G again. Stay strong, everyone.

snowtiger007

I think she has enough support. I know we are upset at her supporting Obama. But imagine if she did not? The media would destroy everything she had left. She would never get a presidential nomination again as Pelosi and all of them would be outraged.

She started off just endorsing him, but she left her mark, she could of not campaigned as much, but the media kept questioning why she was not.

She has her highest approval rating ever recorded for her right now in New York it is in the upper 60s.

I think Hillary has more support than ever. She has won AAs back, her speeches have inspired.

Yes some are angry, but Hillary showed she is not selfish and while we wish she had thrown her support behind McCain, she could have been much more forceful than she was.

Remember she refused to attack Palin…now thats class.

Hey everyone, you may want to Read POST # 152 (by EWard 11.07.08 at 6:15 pm)

It gives you a really good look into the “control mechanisms” Obama is setting up that ensure there will be little “transparency” in his administration.

matt2008A
I’m not going to bash Hillary. We have two years before mid term elections. Lets see what she does.

TerryDo

We need to find a strong, well-known Republican moderate to challenge Reid………of course finding one is a challenge in itself.

Some are thinking Arnold will run against Barbara Boxer for senate in California in 2010. If he does that will be an extremely close race.

You are right though, we should put our efforts into the 2010 midterm elections. Our main targets should be Harry Reid, several dem congressmen. Than 2012, a republican president and someone to defeat McCaskill in Missouri……im thinking Jo Anne Emerson….and of course re-election for Hillary

#134Anna7000: The taxation issue was posted here a while back with a side by side comparison of McCain and Obama and I saw it somewhere else also apart from here. It was posted by more than one person here,but, I cannot remember who did those postings. I am sorry.
Can anyone else remember? Might it be in some set of facts in the Action Center?

snowtiger007

I know u weren’t bashing Hillary….you brought up a good point

TerryDo
Lol. You reading my mind? I was going to suggest we take a look at rules for radicals and see what we can use in the future.
Whats sauce for the goon is sauce for the PUMA.

At least Rahm Emmanuel likes Hillary. He was the only Illinois superdelegate that remained undecided through the entire process. He was the only one to defend Hillary after Ted Kennedy’s horrible comment about her.

Yes he has problems….but hes much better than McCaskill

/TerryDo: Rahm Emmanuel is no lap dog. He is a trained efficient attack dog and dangerous.

I think we all still need to remember that a lot still can happen between now and 20 Jan. There is a lot of info to be uncovered, if it can be found.

Hi PUMAS, how the heck ya doin?
Sorry if this is old news and haven’t read thru whole thread, so whatever.
Kathleen Sibleus, gov of Kansas is a Bilderberger as of 2007.
Valerie Jarrett is an Iranian American who’s been with Obummer since his state senate run, pretty sure. Favorite strategy: play race card.
And as far as alternative energy is concerned, be it nuclear, solar or wind, etc…don’t get your hopes up. The cabal of greedy snot-nosed elites will never let America move to nuclear energy(like the French have) or solar. Wind energy still requires more electricity to produce than it produces by itself–because wind is not reliable. It’s also very costly to convert to solar( just ask the friendly mechanical engineer who lives in your town or city and s/he will affirm it).
I say this not because I love oil but because I know(as do many of you)how the Vested Interest operates in our nation.
Al Gore’s family owns all or most of Occidental Oil corp, BTW. Big environmentalist? No, big swindler and even bigger hypocrite.
Rest assured, it will be the fat-cats like Al Gore and T. Boone Pickens and others who gain taxpayer dollars/subsidies under the guise of alternative energy development. Count on it.

We have a couple of races here in Ma to look at for the senate.
Ted K. has a medical problem. The talk is Kerry may get a OBot job. So, let’s start thinking before that hits the media.

On the Hannity radio show today, he played a tape of a reporter at Obama’s press conf. asking him when he was going to raise the taxes on the “top 5%.” Obama tapped dance around and said he was planning tax cuts for the 95%, etc. Hannity played the question and answer over again. It was pretty funny. I guess we can expect “more of the same.”

What role will Obama give Donna Brazile? I know, Director of the EEO. Didn’t she give Hillary an equal opportunity?

Middle age female
I talked day before yesterday with a couple of major contributors to the republican party from my neck of the woods.
I told them, a a test, that we , PUMA had information on five hundred thousand possible fraudulent votes. I was told never mind, let it lie.
The republicans WANT him in the white House.
They know four years from now they will be back in control for a decade or more.

anotherhillarygirl: Ted Kennedy’s wife will take over his position in the Senate. Make no mistake..She is formidable, coming as she does as the daughter of a very powerful behind the scenes, at the side player in the world of Louisiana politics, a Reggie…

ProudAmericana2008
I agree with you and I feel badly you were hurt as an AA. This is why I tried to point out that I think that prop 8 being passed is more of an issue of religious beliefs than AA being the minority that were responsible. I got attacked for it from some, yet just about everything I say these days get attacked. Supporting Hillary, caring about her, wanting the caucus fraud not to be put to bed………..
I will tell you your thoughts are important to many PUMAs, maybe time needs to heal a lot of anger on the blog to bring many back to the majority of kind people that are here.

BillieJo
PLease do not mistake disagreeing with you as an attack. At least not from me.
(((((BillieJo))))))

ProudAmericana2008:

I truly hope I have in no way offended you – and if I have been complacent in not noticing or speaking up – please forgive me for that.

In that regard – I will say what I do remember that I found personally offensive about “Michelle Obama’s anger”.

I tried to post a response about that and I lost the post. The only thing I can say about that post is that our history of treatment of AA’s – and other marginalized groups – I understand more today than I ever thought possible. It came as a result of looking at the truth of my own innermost thoughts and feelings – all born from a social conditioning that we have largely denied, ignored or have been unaware.

For that, I can say, if Michelle Obama is, in fact, “angry” because of what I understand today, I am the last to condemn her for that “anger”.

I have read what you have written. I am sorry for the undercurrents that you, more than many of us, are acutely aware are often expressed and many of us unwittingly accept.

TerryDo 11.07.08 at 6:42 pm

Good point! Rhamie, you’re a gooooood boy! Yes you are! What a good boy! clap clap clap air kiss

HiHat
Now that you mention it, WHO did do carpathias make up?
I bet it was Chris Mathews.:twisted:

It’s simple Obama election math,

The number of absentee ballots in non swing states is equal to the number of newly registered college students living away from home in swing states
…Yes they can
This is my fiance’s screen name by the way…he’s very upset about this fraudulent election…

I’m enjoying all of your comments and as a former Clinton cat I am soooo sad about the situation, Hillary was truly a glimmer of real hope in the modern political arena. Now were forced to listen to the likes of Brazilsaurus who obviously is neither democratic nor believes in the democratic election process. What a foghorn she is.

Enough with the weeping AA swearing that anyone can rise from the ranks of poverty to achieve in this country…This rarely occurs at the presidential level-and it certainly didn’t this time.

Sorry misinformed, it appears that hopenchange is really just a 3 syllable word!

ProudAmericana2008 – I have been here a long while and don’t think this PUMA site is against anybody at all.
This is all about quality against anything else.
Any humor intended from a writers perspective such as me can be misinterpreted.

atypical

thanx for breaking it down……now im really scared.

(((((snowtiger007)))))
Thank you for saying that, I have been feeling like a PUMA without a den lately.

ProudAmericana2008:

Thank you for bringing it up. I needed to hear every word you wrote.

snowtiger007: I have said for quite a while that the , what I have called, the 1% big bad money people, hedge fund people, globalization high level players who supported Bush, that many of them would support Obama for his willingness to play their money games. These people did not want or support McCain because the man did want for years to limit campaign finance and was hot on earmarks..among other issues. Their candidate was Mitt Romney. And they lose nothing with Obama.\
They gain more of what they gained under Bush, the freedom, now by a contrived necessity to play the finacial essence of this country for every penny. Remember George’s comments at the fundraiser some years back when he appeared before some of the richest in the world..Well here I am with my base, the haves and the have mores…That really characterizes George Bush. He has and had as much use for the Republican Traditional people..middle class as Brazile has for us.
He used them when he had to and then gave them and us the shaft..the middle class. What Bush began and let loose, Ojingo will complete for these people…under the guise now of caring for the “little” people of this country. ..as they continue to drain every dime from the middle class. True and classic sleaze..Bush and Obama, flip sides of the same coin. ..and that coin belongs to them and these 1%ers.

murphy 11.07.08 at 3:12 pm
slyt2 #70
“OMG they are intrupting One life to Live to go to BO’s speech so it’s already 2:50 here which means they are gonna NOT show General Hospital for him.. Now I’m pissed he is interfering with my soap opera ..dang it.”
CLASSIC!
dwp — wouldnt it be cool to have a page with classic puma comments? I have to go through the threads to clean up the crap from the other day, plus other stuff, maybe I can put it together and email it to actioncenter@pumapac.org?

I was reading the comic relief section’s ODictionary last night and trying to say NOP’s O’monikers for That One. Not easy to do. You kind of have to jump down on all the syllables at once and make a very weird noise. NOP’s a new orleans witch for sure.
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Slyt You’re too much!! LMAO
Murphy, Yeah, that’s a great idea!!
The O’Dictionary comes from pre-Oct 31 threads because it isn’t as much fun when it’s a self conscious effort.

NOP’S O’Ds? The dictionary doubles as a brain teaser.

#221anotherhillarygirl: Do not know why you would think I think otherwise from my post, but that is ok, because clearly I agree with you here.

NewOrleansPuma
I couldn’t agree more.
Now I must really go. Havent eaten all day and am getting light headed.

speaking of Rham being ‘undecided’ remember Donna Brazile ‘claimed’ she was undecided also

Do any of you remember what the comment was that Rham made about sending someone a ‘fish’

As per Kat #229

Ayers appears to confirm the structure of his relationship to the campaign when he told The New Yorker:
“I felt from the beginning that the Obama campaign had to run the Obama campaign and I have to run my life.”

Now why would someone who was NOT very involved with Obama have to make such a decision?

MCCAIN PLAN FOR THE ECONOMY
warrior4hillary on 10.16.08 at 11:11 am
October 15, 2008
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As He Works To Address The Financial Crisis, John McCain Will Implement His “Jobs For America” Economic Plan To Strengthen And Expand Our Economy. Learn more about the Plan here: http://www.johnmccain.com/Issues/jobsforamerica/
Elements Of The Pension And Family Security Plan:
SENIORS: Lower Taxes On Seniors Tapping Their Retirement Accounts. (10% tax rate in 2009-2010 for up to $50,000 withdrawal)
SENIORS: Suspend Tax Rules That Force Seniors To Sell Their Stocks In The Midst Of This Financial Crisis. (Waive mandatory withdrawals for 70 1/2 year olds)
SAVERS: Accelerate The Tax Write-Off For Those Who Must Sell At A Loss In The Current Market. (Increase amount of capital losses in 2009-2010)
SAVERS: Reduce Capital Gains Taxes For 2009 And 2010 To Raise The Incentive To Save And Invest. (Reduce maximum rate on long term capital gains to 7.5% in 2009-2010)
HOMEOWNERS: Purchase Mortgages Directly From Homeowners And Mortgage Servicers, And Replace Them With Manageable, Fixed-Rate Mortgages.
WORKERS: Eliminate Taxes On Unemployment Benefits in 2009 and 2010.
Click here for the complete archive of Weekly Talking Points.
This Week’s Note From Jo Ann:
The top issue on the minds of many voters is what the financial crisis means to their retirement accounts, their mortgages and savings in the future. Yesterday John McCain announced initiatives to help offset these concerns. McCain is also recommending that taxes on unemployment benefits be suspended for the next two years.
Without question the economy is the top issue. We must share what John McCain is doing to address these legitimate concerns. Increasing taxes is not the answer. Not exploring every way to make us less dependent on foreign oil is not the answer. Giving government more control of our health care decisions is not the answer. Denying small businesses the ability to export their products is not the answer.
Electing John McCain and Sarah Palin is the right answer to deal with the economy.
Thanks for your help!

Just got back on and saw the photo above of Bo and his advisors. Did anyone else notice that all the guys were wearing black suits even the females? Is BO going to coordinate all his team’s clothes every time he knows there will be photos?

Emanuel is said to have “mailed a rotting fish to a former coworker after the two parted ways.”[7] On the night after the 1996 election, “Emanuel was so angry at the president’s enemies that he stood up at a celebratory dinner with colleagues from the campaign, grabbed a steak knife and began rattling off a list of betrayers, shouting ‘Dead! … Dead! … Dead!’ and plunging the knife into the table after every name.”[6] His “take-no-prisoners attitude” earned him the nickname “Rahm-bo”.[7]

Someone posted here that Indiana flipped from Obama to McCain. Does anyone know if this is true?

#240HiHat: Because he is a lier just as Fraud Ojingo, that is why. Why would a guy Ojango only knows somewhat from the neighborhood make a comment regarding any relationship between him and running the campaign..I mean..these are just two guys from the neighborhood. Lieing, radical anarchist and attacthed at the hip to Obama and he to Ayers. That is why.

Honestly? I couldn’t care less about racism after the Democratic primaries and the Democratic side of this election…. except if, and unless, it’s directly about women, all women.
Don’t know the practicality of my position, but, that is my position, at least for now.

238
Pookie 11.07.08 at 7:14 pm

Do any of you remember what the comment was that Rham made about sending someone a ‘fish’

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If I remember it correctly, Rham did not like what a pollster said about him and so he mailed him a dead fish, to let him know how he felt about his comments.. LOL

#249 kat in your hat

If these “journalists” are admitting they do not know who Obama is, why in the world did they push his candidacy for 19 months? They have zero credibility with the American public.

NewOrleansPuma 11.07.08 at 7:23 pm

Oh yeah, the family dress coordination was so obviously a statement and one of his symbols on the night he was given the election. And I’m sure the coordination today was another symbol of his team, altogether, as one, on the same page, etc. He’s so into that kind of stuff there’s no room left in his brain to think.

utahpuma
If you like, you send a brief description and contact info, I’ll be happy to post it in the action center so Pumas can subscribe. actioncenter@pumapac.org

medium key

I went on the Flopping Aces website (it has a lot of info) and got this quote from Joe Trippi:

Joe Trippi, the Internet politics guru whose computer geeks made Howard Dean a contender in 2004 and who went on to design Obama’s socially networked campaign machine, offers a provocative and educated guess.

Trippi predicted that Obama would use his forces, first and foremost, to intimidate congressional foes of his agenda, rally his allies and forge “one of the most powerful presidencies in American history.”

Now that’s scary!

Dear PUMA and Friends

I want to reiterate here that I am still peaceful. I went this way some time in the last week before election day, election day I was normal-down-reallydown-normal-down-normal-down-reallydown-normal yadayada and then around 9 pm, with a total news blackout except here, then blacking out Pumapac due to the emotions surging in everyone on election night, I went to bed. I woke at 5 the next morning, went back to sleep another half hour, then woke up, and read the blog and saw it did not go our way, and my brother was in his doorway and said to me “The United STUPID of America”. But thats been the extent of the expression of any emotions for us. Many of my colleagues were exasperated, the AA colleagues were quiet. He is still enlisting to serve his country as do all the men in my family. I am still PUMA. And I am at peace. If any of you can personally reach a place where you are at peace, and live in your moments, this is the warriors stance. There is fear. But there is peace. There is anger. But there is peace. There is a difficult road ahead. But there is peace.

Here is my philosophy that is developing. I am very glad that AA have a president, and I am at peace that it is Obama. I will be the loyal opposition, but I do not want to be like the people who went after Bush. I have alot of issues with Bush, but read in the wsj.com today and article about the maltreatment of the 43rd POTUS, and what must our country think of us for this. Yes, Barack Obama is a liar, and Alinskyite, and quite probably, and I have called him this, a totalitarian and communist. But I am at peace. There is something that America has. We have a constitution and a Bill of Rights. And we have an american people who can and will turn on a President who strays into uncharted territory as Bush has. Yes Bush has kept us safe, but he has made grave mistakes as well. The gravest of mistakes… and he has to live with that, but now I know that perhaps his wish was to keep Americans safe.

We know Obama is Bush III, but I do not want to end up being a caricature, like a Michael Moore. I felt that commie smearmatician Moore did more harm than good on any given day.

So lets be the loyal opposition and resistance. I agree with the posters here who admire the Nader model. This should be our main work, our approach. As consumers of the political realities out there, as voters, we have the moral high ground. Lets keep it. Let our AA friends and colleagues have their POTUS of color, and I see a positive in that out of all the shameful doings of the Obama campaign, that AA will see theirselves, their familes, their childrens as capable of achieving anything.

Let us not deteriorate into greasy fat smearmaticians like Michael Moore. Lets take the high road, as McCain did. And lets take the warrior stance of peace. And lets become the Political Consumer Product Safety and Preservation Commission.

utahpuma
also, if you send teh Pelosi / Del Monte article, I’ll upload it to teh Action Center.

Good evening PUMAs. Is this nightmare over yet? I keep waking up each day and thinking that I am in a dream. God help us.

I don’t know about some parts of the country, but where I live, a lot of the AAs are getting in your face about Obama winning. I am not saying this to be racist. One lady attacked my husband in a parking garage yesterday. She had noticed that he previously had a McCain sticker on his car. She made a comment about why the sticker was gone and that he couldn’t support a “loser” anymore. My husband, who is retired military, was deeply shaken by this. He told her that he couldn’t believe she just called a man who served 5 l/2 years as a POW a loser. She accused my husband of not voting for Obama because of the color of his skin. My husband then went on to state his reasons for not voting for him. This is so sad that it has come to this. Obama has played the race card and, frankly, I am not sure how this is going to play out from here on end.

repost from downstairs…you know I am night blind…someone shut off the light!
Hi everyone. I come home and turn on the tv for the first time since the election, and the first friggin thing I see is oistillthinkheisafktard, and the first thing I hear is he made an apology to Nancy Reagan for saying something “off the cuff” about her contacting an astrologer after President Reagan got shot. He is just such an asshole, always speaking against women…wtf

TerryDo: I have a great sense of humor. It is in the blood and it is in my culture here, but I can truly tell you I have not one chuckle, guffaw or anything in anyway that I can say is humorous to me about the debacle that has just taken place in this country. I thought that had reached its pinnacle with the stealing of the election by George Bush…but this…is without precedent. This is a coop succeeded…and our battles will be long and only those who know how to endure will endure. I wish I could find something to chuckle about re this man and his amoral fraud of a self and what has happened. I can’t.

Something that upset me today when listening to Rush Limbaugh. He was reading off some of Obama’s plans for this country from his new Web site. Rush mentioned that Obama wants to give $2 billion (I think that was the total) to Arab countries for them to use in their schools to teach them not to hate America. This is supposedly to keep them from becoming terrorists. Did anyone read or hear this? I find this to be disturbing, and I am quite concerned about the real agenda of this move.

DeadGirl: Sorry deadgirl, I do not see it that way.

Oh, yeah, Rush also said that Newsweek has an article out about Obama. It basically implies that he is a fraud and that he knows it. The article also said that many people are going to be very angry with Obama when they realize this. Good Lord. A day late and a dollar short.

Animal Guide

ANIMAL SPIRIT GUIDES & TOTEMS
BY TAKATOKA

I think I could turn and live with animals,
they’re so placid and self-contained,
I stand and look at them long and long.
They do not sweat and whine about their condition,
They do not lie awake in the dark and weep for their sins,
They do not make me sick discussing their duty to God,
Not one is dissatisfied,
not one is demented with the mania of owning things,
Not one kneels to another,
nor to his kind that lived thousands of years ago,
Not one is respectable or unhappy over the whole earth.
(“Song of Myself”, Walt Whitman, 1819-1892)

DeadGirl:

I understand your position, and I am at peace. I am mainly concerned that Obama will be an anti-American (hard-core marxist) president who will have a very private and secretive presidency because of Obama-Media, which he WILL.

I’d like to pay attention to Obama news and world events, (watch our allies and enemies), and also bills being passed and votes that go down.

You say:
“There is something that America has. We have a constitution and a Bill of Rights. And we have an american people who can and will turn on a President who strays into uncharted territory as Bush has.”

Those things can easily change with votes and amendments and if Obama and our elected officials are really bad guys…there is nothing the people can do. Why would they care about pieces of paper. If the government is corrupt and the media is corrupt…there is NOTHING the people can do to stop anything except for civil war.

You know that there is no one above the president to go to. And you say American people could turn on him if he strays from uncharted territory like Bush…well, Bush had MILLIONS of haters and they got NOTHING done to stop him or manipulate him. All those protestors…all their complaining got them nowhere. Nowhere. NOWHERE.

All I am saying is that Pumas and Americans have to see that they are the ones who have to inform one another and watchdog the senate and congress, and prepare for any changes to come. Because if people don’t pay attention to what is happening…anything can happen.

Just found out from my boss that my 10 hour shifts at the hospital I work at are now 8 hours thanks to some 20 something Obot who complained to Human Resources because his shift was changed. Then he puts in his 2 week notice and goes somewhere else. Wow that is great, screw over a 55 year old woman and take off.

snowtiger007 11.07.08 at 6:26 pm

TerryDo
Excellent idea.
I moon thee bots.//
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There’s an official smilie for that, y’know, though Word Press won’t give you a colorful graphic for it, sadly:

(|)

BrianH
Thanks. I couldn’t remember the darn thing.
Now how do you make it?

shasta2001: Perhhaps you should go back to Human Resources and ask to have it changed back. See what they say. Ask them to tell you upon what basis was the change made in the first place. Maybe you knowall this already or know that it matters little to Human Resources as long as they feel their butts are covered with appropriate paper…55 year old women and men in the workplace alos have to play close attention to their rights as well.

#287ProudAmerican2008: What ? a response to Dances but none to me regarding your nonspecific post? Ah…you show your real reasons for being here. …a hangover obat practicing the craft of the future: If you do not agree with me, you are a racist…Get lost.

if this was already posted sorry but it’s good
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081107/ap_on_el_pr/palin_clothing;_ylt=AiSOqiq183mKqItZVeNCuGdh24cA

Ex-DemInVA 11.07.08 at 7:42 pm

Rush mentioned that Obama wants to give $2 billion (I think that was the total) to Arab countries for them to use in their schools to teach them not to hate America.
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Now that is funny, isn’t that equivalent to paying off the school bully. Here is my lunch money see I am nice, I want you to like me… Most Arab countries are oily rich, two billion dollars is going to buy what?
I hope Rush is exaggerating again ,that is his style after all, to embellish and/or commit sins of omission.

Re: the Martin interview on Patriot Brigades Radio:
Lan Lamphere responded to a query/comment saying he’s working on making a workable archive system right now. I asked him to post here or email me when it’s fixed.

have a good evening Puma’s. I just popped in to read some of the blog…I will bbl hopefully, I am spring cleaning…oops…winter cleaning so to speak. Lots to do.

To all of you who have comforted my daughter, MakowashiNatusko, in the last few days: Thank you, Thank You, THANK YOU!

She is living in the dorm on the campus at California State University at Northridge as an exchange/fellowship student. She is in her second semester junior year, and will be there through May. She come home for winter break in December. There were a number of incidents related to the election that had her really shaken up in the last few weeks, especially in the last few days. This blog has been very important to her for moral support.

I have an idea. Let’s play a little game. I’ll call it a Test.

Test:
Obama starts his civilian national security force–like he promised–the one that is “just as powerful, just as strong, and just as well funded as our military.”

OK. You start seeing recruiting stations, and hear stories about how people can enlist via his change. gov website.

Next you hear that they are training on their own training facilities, or maybe they train at police schools, army facilities, security schools, and maybe a few classes at some military school. All around training. But it’s NOT our government military.

So, you know all this is happening. Then what? You start to hear that these same civilian national security people are watching our borders and our ports, and traveling with the military overseas to fight in battles, and then you also start to see them around your neighborhood…

How would you feel seeing Obama’s non-military military in your neighborhood. Comfortable? Would you feel like they were just like the police? The National Guard? What would you be thinking.

Let’s say they start taking liberties with your rights. Start questioning you, watching you and watching everyone. You feel less free.

How do you stop it? It’s not like the police where you can get their badge numbers, file a complaint, get the media, sue the city or fight their union.

How do you stop something that is as powerful as the government military–they have more power than cops, maybe you have less rights with them.

How do you stop it?

TEST.

#302 Heneri,

We have loved the input from your daughter. She has been a blessing to us!

Heneri

I know what you mean.

Im a freshman at the University of Illinois at Urbana….it is majorly depressing. I am surrounded by Obots!!!!

at least my roomate is a Hillary supporter…..

kat in your hat
Scary thoughts.

Kat in your hat, i also agree with you, but at this moment in time, this very second we must build ourselves up. We need hard cold facts. We need to remain united on the issues that made us PUMA’s in the first place. We need to stop focusing on the individual and start focusing on the issues. Being a watch dog is a great thing, but when you focus only on one person versus on what is wrong with the position, you lose focus. We need to be sharp as a laser beam when fighting against specific policies and leave personal attacks at the door. We will look like nothing but sore losers if we try to attack Barack Obama today. Let’s attack his policies. I think that is the difference. And for the record I can’t stand Obama for what he did and what he represents. I will never forget. We now have an opportunity to move beyond him and in doing so we can effect a change.

I am ready to fight many policies I believe he is going to try and pass. I especially loathe the mandatory volunteer community service for school children. My child is my child, not his.

I am ready to fight misogyny and sexism in the media and society.

I am ready to fight against media bias and demand that the media presents fact, not propaganda.

I am ready to fight for fair elections.

Surely Obama is a physical representation of what is wrong. I do not trust him, but we will not make a difference by solely attacking him.

These are institutional problems we face and must combat them with resources and a stick togetherness and credibility with facts, not feelings, like no one has ever seen before.

kat in your hat MOVE TO CANADA.. Trish get out your paper i need to look for a house.Nobody is taking my daughter.

Oh wait do they get general hospital in Canada????

We have two years before the midterm elections.
I suggest we target those in congress who are most in line with carpathia and run PUMAS against them.
I can’t conceive that congress will have a positive approval rating in two years.

NOW THEY TELL US: CHARLIE ROSE INTERVIEW WITH NEWSWEEK EDITORS
http://www.charlierose.com/shows/2008/11/05/2/a-conversation-with-jon-meacham-evan-thomas

How to start a political party in California. I found this at google.
___________________________________________________________________________

Step I: Deciding on a name and appointing temporary officials
————————————————————-
Your first step in founding a new party is to decide on a name and
appoint temporary officials, in a congregation of all founders. This
is the first party “convention”, and dspite the pompous name, it could
be a meeting held anywhere, as soon as it is a meeting of the founders
of the party. The name, of course, cannot be used by any other
qualified political party. You can’t devide that your party would be
named “The Republican Party”, as I have heard that this name is
already taken.

What is a “Qualified” Party?
—————————-
Basically, it is a party that could run in the primary level. However,
the definitions change, and basically, it means a party, whose
candidates already shown some success, and that has a certain
percentage of voters. In California, that means, any party that has
registered with the Secretary of State.

In California, the qualified parties are currently:
- American Independent
- Democratic
- Green
- Libertarian
- Natural Law
- Peace and Freedom
- Republican

Step II: Registering this name with the Secretary of State
==========================================================
Your next step is to register your new party. Your letter should include:
- Names and addresses of temporary party officials
- Name of the party.
- Constitution or Bylaws. Your party’s ideology shouldn’t be contra to
the laws of the state (or the country), which basically means it
doesn’t promote illegal practices or the overthrow of the regime.
Please note, that if your party is after changing laws in the
country/state (for example, many small new parties are supporting
legalisation of illegal drugs), it doesn’t mean you’re “supporting
illegal practices”. In fact, you’re trying to change the laws in a
democratic process, and in theory not support any violation of the
law.

The California Law on Registering a New Party
=============================================

The law, in this case, says:

“5001. Whenever a group of electors desires to qualify a new political
party meeting the requirements of Section 5100, that group shall form
a political body by:

(a) Holding a caucus or convention at which temporary officers shall
be elected and a party name designated, which name shall not conflict
with that of any existing party or political body that has previously
filed notice pursuant to subdivision (b).

(b) Filing formal notice with the Secretary of State that the
political body has organized, elected temporary officers, and declared
an intent to qualify a political party pursuant to Section 5100. The
notice shall include the names and addresses of the temporary officers
of the political body.”
(SOURCE: California Election Code, Division 5, Ch. 1. Available Online
at California Secretary of State,
).

Sounds easy so far, huh?

Am I a Qualified Party Now? Could I Participate in the Elections Now?
=====================================================================

Unfortunately, no.

In order to participate in the elections, you have to have a certain
number of supporters, which you hand in as a “proof” to the Secretary
of State. All of this must be done by the 135th day before the next
following primary election [in our case - March 2, 2004].

Number of Supporters
——————–
As you’ve seen before, a proof of the number of supporters is
essential. There are two ways, in which the party could qualify and
later participate in the elections:

By registration – of a certain number (1% of the registered voters) of
people who claim to be affiliated with the new party.

By petition – of a certain number (10% of the registered voters) of
people who are supporting this new party.

Today, these figures are pretty high:
“To qualify a new political party by registration requires that 77,389
persons (one percent) complete an affidavit of registration, on which
they have written in the proposed party name as the party they
affiliate with. These affidavits of registration must be completed and
mailed in by the 154th day before the primary election.

To qualify a new political party by petition requires that 773,883
persons (ten percent) sign a petition seeking the inclusion of the
proposed party in the party nominating process at the March 2, 2004
primary election. These petitions must be filed with the several
counties by the proponent in such time that the counties verify the
signatures and certify the counts to the Secretary of State who
certifies the proposed party’s qualification not later than the 135th
day before the primary election.”
(ibid).

You could start collecting the signatures before you make the initial
registeration described in step II, if you file such a request at the
Secretary of State, not more than 70 days after the initial
registration, on your intent to qualify.

Here is a list of parties who are currently not qualified, despite
completing steps I and II – Non-Qualified Political Parties
.

Step III: After the Party Qualifies
===================================

After you’ve passed this hurdle, you must elect permanent officials,
and notify the Secretary of State. This must be done before February
1st of the Presidential Primary Year.

Naturally, candidates who do not belong to a qualified party, could
run either as non-partisan candidates or as minor party candidates
with about the same consequences.

Here are the requirements for candidates:
Candidate Information

Whom to Contact
—————
California Secretary of State
1500 11th Street
Sacramento, California 95814

Elections Division
Main Number: (916) 657-2166
TDD Only – No Charge To Calling Party: (800) 833-8683
Voter Fraud Hotline: (800) 345-8683 / (800) 345-VOTE

Links and further information
—————————–
DC Political Report -
a list of minor parties in the U.S.

Online Guide to California Politics

Ballot Access for American Political Parties More Generally

POLITICAL PARTIES IN THE UNITED STATES
By John F. Bibby

In other states:

Party Formation in Iowa

The Beginning of the Libertarian Party of Minnesota

Political Parties in Maryland – Maryland State Board of Elections – ??
4-102. New political parties.

North Carolina
(1) The Law
(2) PETITION TO CREATE A NEW POLITICAL PARTY

Montana – Section 115-315 New political party, how formed

Florida

District of Columbia

taggles:
Yes, exactly, that’s the kind of watch dogging I am talking about. Watching the policies, watching the senate, watching what happens with foreign affairs. But at the same time, if one doesn’t get to know him better (and there are a lot of people who don’t) then it’s not as easy to see where he is coming from. I know this guy’s personal background and it matters because it helps to understand why he holds certain positions and what his plans are.

NewOrleansPuma
I say we do it. Form a party and get our people elected.
We have a lot of room to move.
The failure of prop 8 is an i with gays. The policies of “O” will work to our favor with the conservatives.
The treatment of Hillary will work with the feminists.
Thats just for starters.
WE CAN DO IT!

What’s the deal with Del Monte? That’s my diced tomatos brand. What did they do to earn a boycott?

Matt2008A

Glad to see that there is more than one young person who is trying hard to make a difference. What is your major?

MakowashiNatusko (Beth) is a history major with a music minor. She has been a history buff since childhood. I home schooled her, so I think maybe I imprinted much of my own personality onto her.

You young people are seeing the foundation of the world you will have to cope with being built. As the Statler brothers said ‘Life gets complicated when you get past 18.’ Just remember, you will be the middle aged people when the fruits of this election come full circle. Awesome to think about?

Heneri,

Makowashi is a joy to talk with and I congratulate you on having such a wonderful and smart daughter.

OBAMA HYPNOSIS:
http://insightanalytical.wordpress.com/2008/10/28/i-demand-more-than-your-vote-i-want-your-mind-a-call-to-boycott-obamas-media-buy-1029/

Godzilla,

See Post #1 in this thread regarding Delmonte.

K, just watched the Obama news conference from today. Ugh.

My thoughts …

1. not one Fox News reporter was called on.
2. he made a snarky comment about Mrs. Reagan.
3. he spent the most time on the dog question.
4. he wasn’t even asked about the Russian missile situation.
5. how in the hell are we going to pay for another stimulus package and all of the other crap that he is proposing.
6. he side stepped the question about would tax increases start in 2009.

@ #325 Yes, Brava!

Those are the top puma interests I would say. Actually those are the top 2 of the 4 I wrote out earlier in an email concerning next stage of puma movement. We will have to transition some now.

HiHat, damn a boycott of something that I actually buy. That’s a first. Hunts it is!

@ #340
“We will have to transition some now.” (Not the ideas, but general movement, and how to get what we want, etc)

How many of you folks have your own blog?

Deadgirl – Excellent writing!

Heneri – I know you did have an extended name earlier and you offered to help me on a shelved article I wanted to write about America from my perspective.
I asked you daughter to be a Samurai warror spirited in the wake of all the surrondings she finds herself in.
And to reiterate, Lotus blooms in such milieu and so should her aspirations.

There is no better thing in this world than to tell people ‘I told you so’. Ask her to wait for that day.

INCORRECT: while others decided to vote against any AA on the ballot, noting: “Fuck ‘em.”

DancesWithPumas 11.07.08 at 7:42 pm
Let our AA friends and colleagues have their POTUS of color, and I see a positive in that out of all the shameful doings of the Obama campaign, that AA will see theirselves, their familes, their children* as capable of achieving anything.
—————————-
“male children.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I get what you are saying… I just have this one little anecdote in reply. On Wednesday morning, I was soberly riding the bus in, avoiding looking at anyones headlines, and a little AA girls who rides in with her mom got on the bus, and she was positively beaming!!! So my brain tells myself, “hey, you cannot take that away from her” and I would not want to. If anyone can stand in testament to the fortitude of women, it is AA women. My favorite movie of all time has to be The Color Purple. I just pray there is positive with the bad. If any young child of colour ever held their head down, that they can smile during their week, I am not going to take that from them. I personally have experienced no instances of confrontation. But I do notice AA’s are holding their heads a little higher, and walking a little prouder. And I am not looking forward to any sadness a charlatan and fraud will bring. All people deserve better than what we have. 54%.

Anna7000 11.07.08 at 8:35 pm #335

Bravo, Anna7000!!!
We should all reread that once a day to ground us.
thanks

BigCatLover:
Our Ancestors were the most peaceful and complacent of all the tribes. Many of them also had hazel eyes. They wove their own fabrics from hemp, harvested crops that they cultivated, selectively bred dogs, had permanent lodges, and had a matriarchal lineage for disposition of marital property. They were excellent herbalists. Some of our modern medicines come from their craft.

When the Europeans came, the Cherokee were among the first to welcome them. In time, many of our people even went to the schools of the white man and got college degrees. This was in the 1700’s.

We have a fabulous heritage. Nice to know you, cousin.

Hey Kat I answered too post 314
and hey dances I like that name i just might do that and good news if I do move they have it
http://www.ctv.ca/generic/generated/tvlist/CFTOtvlist.html

What I think:

Just as the MSM helped make BO, they will be the ones to break him.

Little by little they with question him, criticize him. BO won’t like it. His ego won’t be able to take it.

BO won’t give press conferences – MSM will get mad – criticize him more – and so on, and so on, and so on.

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taggles1 11.07.08 at 8:18 pm

Amen. Very wise. We can not be “in reaction” to Obama and affect anything.

Heneri

Im double majoring in Urban Planning and Political Science, which I really like.
I love history and thought about doing that.
I really don’t want to think about the mess Obama will leave us, so I am hoping Hillary comes through and makes everything okay.
Go Hillary ‘12 or ‘16 or whenever

Hi, just got home. If anyone is going by JSND or Camille’s, pls hug everyone for me (I’ll get registered later).

I need to register at Lady Lynn’s and TeamSarah too. Now that my computer is somewhat recovered.

{{{{ all pumas! }}}}

Forming a political party takes lots of money…tons
If Ross Perot couldn’t do it…..I don’t know who can

taggles:
I have a blog and I think a few others do…not sure that a high percentage of puma pac peeps have one.

utahpuma:
What Pelosi did is incredible. It’s outrageous. She also pays her husband through her Pac. I read that about a month ago or so.

Taggles:
Ya, they will get to know when they see the agenda he tries to push through. I can already see it all. It won’t necessarily be the end of the world kind of stuff. (I hope.) I’m mainly concerned that a lot of the changes will not be identified by the media. The MSM deeply concerns me. I could almost live in hell, as long as everyone else with me knew it was hell.

While I am thinking about the press – has BO picked a press secretary?

Chris Mathews has been auditioning for the job for months.

gonna watch a movie bbl..

So Obama has formed an ambiguous “Office of the President Elect” with a dot gov address, and has set up a separate charitable corporation to run things on its behalf?

The only reason I can see one would do this is to circumvent campaign finance laws and to keep any activities from seeing the light of day.

I guess Obama forgets that he criticized Hillary for taking a similar approach with Healthcare:

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0907/Obama_throws_his_elbow.html

And while we’re on that subject, what Obama is doing here looks to me to be a less than veiled attempt to circumvent the sunshine laws. Transparency? As I recall, a DC Federal judge rules that Hillary’s Health Care task froce was subject to those laws.

It also looks to me that Obama’s activities here are subject to FOIA requests. He is not yet President, so communications would arguably not be protected under executive privilege.

Hopefully, groups will approach these issues with the same zeal and determination that they directed against Hillary. We’ll see, very soon.

Also,

Dead Girl,

Admin at H44 says ‘hold BO’s feet to the fire’ to make him fulfill his cmpaign promises. Keep expectations high.

I say, if by any chance he has some sort of moral breakthrough and changes his ways and does start living up to his image*, that would be a good outcome. Our action is the same either way — pressure him to deliver on each good issue. Win/win. If he does, we win the issue. If he doesn’t, he loses supporters. His choice.

*and making amends to those under his bus

matt2008A,

I agree. No political party. Just a stronger action network.

taggles1 hey when i was little I thought Andy Gibb was sooo hot..

snowtiger007 11.07.08 at 7:57 pm

BrianH
Thanks. I couldn’t remember the darn thing.
Now how do you make it?//
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Just the way it looks ( + | + ) = (|) .
The vertical bar is shifted left slash (Shift-\), generally the key just above ‘Enter’ and below ‘Backspace’.

I can’t think of any more info to provide you!! (|)

Ya taggles, Gibbs will be press secretary. THANK GOODNESS it’s not smarmy Bill Burton!!!!!! YUCKKKKKKKKKKK.

Gibbs has a reputation for having a hot temper and will be getting trained on how to chill out. (Emanuel also has a reputation for having a mean personality/ hot temper).

Obama and the angry men.

At ProudAmerican2008…

I am not a racist. But here is my take on race and blacks in America….

First, Martin Luther King is FURIOUS and waiting to kick BO’s and Louis Farrakhan and Al Sharpton’s and Jesse AND Jesse Jr’s ASS…they took his fight for character over skin color and made it into let’s get whitey AND reparations. Blacks are FAR worse off now in my opinion than they were in the 50’s and I blame black leadership and black people.

Second, BO alligned himself with PATENTLY racist and evil men (Wright, Otis, Pflegger, Farrakhan and others) and he is A RACIST and a HYPOCRITE. If he represents race equality or the next generation of freedom fighters for blacks…once again Martin is waiting to kick some ass…

Third, BLACKS–esp. POOR BLACKS–have been utterly SCREWED by BO in Chicago. So in addition to being a hypocritical racist and hater and liar he is a USER and as such I cannot understand ANYONE supporting him ESPECIALLY BLACKS and most especially poor blacks.

Fourth, as a JEW I am FUCKING offended by the almost TOTAL support of blacks in America for BO’s racist ways and I will NEVER forget the hypocrisy and the racism. I am now going to concentrate on other issues…

Fifth, as a WHITE woman who as worked her entire life in social service mostly with people of color I am FUCKING offended by BO and his fucking ‘community organizer’ bs since I have done more in my life for blacks than he ever will.

Sixth, Blacks voted AGAINST gays and I laughed all the way home…you both deserve each other as voting blocks. Most of my friends of gay and NONE of them supported BO. It is American and it is CONSTITUTIONALLY RIGHT that Gays have SAME RIGHTS as NONGAYS. Religion is fucking irrelevant as the justice department of the USA does not use religion when deciding who is protected by the US constitution. The fact that blacks showed their hypocrisy and gays got hurt is KARMA since MOST local and the NATIONAL GLBT supported BO. I say you deserve each other.

I AM NOT A RACIST. I have a right and much evidence to support these statements. ALL PEOPLE are born equal, but some turn out to be assholes. Decide which side you are on, and than own it.

Just thinking about variants of the ‘moon’ smilie:
what would you understand / take from the following:

(+|+)
(x|x)
(.|.)
(:|:)
(`|’)
(~|~)

( | )
\|/

(!)
{|}
(#)
(&)

Heh.

I know some of us strongly disagree about forming a new party. I want all of us to go back through the recent posts and links and realize what the republicans have been saying about democrats for years has been largely true.

Now that I have established that, stop and think about all the things we have always believed about the republicans. If we would go back through some of the things posted on Moveon.org or other similar sites, we would realize that the things we always believed about the RNC are true as well.

To top it all off, these two parties frequently conspire with each other in what they call bi-partisan ventures. They make laws to keep down any additional opposition from third parties. They assist one another in making laws that help both of them manipulate the electorate. Mostly, they are like two intermural basketball teams from the same school. They may hate each other on the court, but they conspire together to keep everyone else out of the game.

When election time comes, we are forced to choose a candidate from one party or the other. In essence, we are forced to go along with the corruption and manipulation of both parties. We give the ball to one for a while, then they go out of bounds and we give the ball to the other side. All the while, it is their game. We are not allowed on the floor, except as spectators who are forced to give approval.

Until we have a viable alternative to this never ending corrupt game, it will continue. They will continue to force us to play it their way.

I think America is tired of this mess. We need alternatives. So what if it takes 15 or 20 years to make significant inroads to change? The sooner we start, the sooner we get there.

ok taggles….I’ll do it. Scared…but I just can not be the politically correct, community activists aka “mom” invisible woman anymore. I’m really angry. It’s a peaceful anger but a deep anger…I’m a Mama Lion.

alohapuma:
NC Teacher for Obama Browbeats Kids
http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/11/07/nc-teacher-for-obama-browbeats-kids/

(Click video if you want to get actual video link.)

Watching the republicans beat up on Sarah Palin, is grotesque.

Those are the types of things that are always a reminder of what they do represent. Not all republicans, prolly not most moderate republicans, but the ones in frickin charge. They are just as sick as the democratic party. They are almost mirror images.

No New Orleans PUMA…

I AM FUCKING MAD ABOUT THE SHIT I AM READING HERE TONIGHT….WTF is going on????

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Heneri 11.07.08 at 9:13 pm
Your points are well taken. An alternative party is a huge undertaking…mind boggling. Has anyone heard of the Working Families Party? Wondering…we had a candidate on our local ballot who said she was running to introduce the Working Families Party.

Rahm Emanuel Was Director Of Freddie Mac During Scandal

http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/11/07/rahm-emanuel-hall-of-shame-open-thread/

($#%$FUUUI*&(O*(P)^$%%$W%$C#!!!!!!K!!)

JenniferforHillary: Sometimes the truth does not feel too good or sound too good but good it is and true it remains whether one wishes to hear it, see it, remember it, or hold to it. Again, in your way, you state the truth and by so doing burst the happy little bubble of fantasy or convenience.

Good majors Matt2008A!

The reason Ross Perot could not get his party off the ground is that it was all about him and his ideas. To form a party you need multiple candidates, and you don’t start with the presidency as your first effort.

The party of ideas and ideals that first starts by endorsements of independently minded candidates and then builds on that will succeed. We already have 2 independents in the Senate. Both ‘divorced’ their parent parties. We have several other public servants who would probably bolt from their respective parties if they had a place to go that they thought was viable. These are the people who could be the products and the beginnings of a new, improved, centrist party. We need fundraisers, thinkers, and doers to make it happen. I believe the bloggers will lead the way.

phpBB is Free software for blogs etc. It is the most successful. Claims of over a million installations. I propose we should use phpBB software as we grow.

here you can see the structure of phpBB software.

http://www.phpbb.com/community/

Notice this is also the bulletin board for discussion of this software. So here you get answers to your questions and also a feel for the way it operates. Notice how it allows for threads on different topics to be separated so people can discuss on topics of interest and find answers without wading through a 1000 random postings.

you can also download the software free from here

http://www.phpbb.com/

notice the claims of free software and also advertising free. This software is OPEN SOURCE. so the source code is there for people to modify and play with.

I have seen some with beautiful graphics and user interface. I consider the format on phpBB commuity to be kind of plain. But more than acceptable and many people simply use this plain format.

I hope that PUMA will use this FREE software to help PUMA grow into a larger organization. It will handle a much higher traffic of postings in an organized way so that we can accomplish more. Getting the information to members better.

I do like the friendliness of the present simple format where everyone reads all posts but it really is getting top heavy with over a thousand posts a day. Thus so much good information is lost or never read and impossible to retrieve agains. Hopefully with phpBB software members will be able to easy retrieve information using the search feature.

Members are also given individual accounts with the ability to personal message individuals. thus if I read a post I can message the person asking a question. and get the answer back into my message list. finding the answer very easy.

With the present software if I ask a question publicly I might get an answer but never able to find the answer under some 1000 responses on different ideas.

This software allows us to turn chaos communication into organized communication.

I worry even this posting will be lost and I will never know if anyone responds to what I have posted.

I think it’s hilarious that these idiot pundits think that BO is going to govern as a centrist. What plant are they living on?

I feel like this whole thing is a really bad dream and we will wake up soon. I went to the store today for the first time. Every AA was so nice to me. I still have my McCain/Palin sign on my car. I thought it would be egged or something. It was almost like they were thinking “Thanks, its ok”.

slyt2, a biker show? Oh, ok. Have fun. Guess what I will be watching soon? Some Weather Underground grainy documentary, then a Weather Underground award winning documentary, then documentaries on Cuba, Venezeula, Libya, and Palestine. Need to get to know our new close pals.

Really though, I did order them.

JenniforHillary

I haven’t had time to read all of the post. What are the post that are upsetting you so much?

I am not kissing and making up with anyone. Dagnabbit(god damnit). We need to be smart about this. That is all.

GoPumaGo

phpbb is great! Although their upgrade to 3.0 is a bit complicated. It’s quite easy to set up and administer.

mick 11.07.08 at 9:25 pm

I think it’s hilarious that these idiot pundits think that BO is going to govern as a centrist. What plant are they living on?//
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Heh. I assume you meant “planet”, but “plant” offers some interesting possibilities, too, doesn’t it? Maybe they’re taking “pot” shots.

jenniforhillary:

Don’t you worry. I am still me. I know the guy and you are right.

Don’t worry. I saw some stuff too upthread. You know, actually there are sort of hard-core pumas who dig & research and follow a lot, and then there are sort of normal pumas who still watch MSNBC and CNN and trust NYT, and they still don’t know about Obama’s background with detail–or they do, but somehow their tolerance levels are a bit higher than ours and others. (I am NOT necessarily speaking of puma pac pumas, but some others–sure.)

All different puma folks. Don’t get upset. I’d have to get stitches if I didn’t learn how to bite my tongue while I was biting my tongue sometimes, know what I mean? It’s fine–really.

NewOrleansPuma 11.07.08 at 9:33 pm
alohapuma: Grandstand? I think not. There will be many next steps to take. Remembering the truth about Obama precedes any steps. Jennifer for Hillary listed lots of truth and none of that is going to be not true because He is now going to be President. All of this is carried with him and will continue to manifest itself. And anyway, why should she have to chill?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
So f’ing true.

Brian,

YOU GOT THAT RIGHT….and anyone who thinks that we are just all going to be fine is in DENIAL…

This is the America’s weakest time and we are in danger. Period.

THe only question is what are we going to do about it.

Ok, I just thought it was weird. Costa Rica here I come.

I received this from my sister-in-law and it made me laugh hope it does you also!

A bald man with a wooden leg gets invited to a Halloween party. He doesn’t know what costume to wear to hide his bald head and his leg so he writes to a costume company to explain his problem.
A few days later he received a parcel with the following note:

Dear Sir,
Please find enclosed a pirate’s outfit. The spotted handkerchief will cover your bald head and, with your wooden leg, you will be just right as a pirate.
Very truly yours,
Acme Costume Co.

The man thinks this is terrible because they have just emphasized his wooden leg and so he writes a letter of complaint. A week goes by and he receives another parcel and a note , which says:

Dear Sir,
Please find enclosed a monk’s habit. The long robe will cover your wooden leg and, with your bald head, you will really look the part.
Very truly yours,
Acme Costume Co.

Now the man is really upset since they have gone from emphasizing his wooden leg to emphasizing his bald head so again he writes the company another nasty letter of complaint.
A few days later, he gets a small parcel and a note which reads:

Dear Sir,
Please find enclosed bottle of molasses and a bag of crushed nuts. Pour the molasses over your bald head, pat on the crushed nuts, stick your wooden leg up your ass and go as a caramel apple.

kat…

thanks for more words bringing me back to my okay place….

i hate that he has done this to me, but I will never be the same girl. never. God damn them all.

@ # 419:

jen–it’s ok. A lot of what you are saying is true. It IS a tragedy in a lot of ways how Obama exploited black people…and how a lot of them don’t know it or don’t care.

Going back to horrible Rezko slumlord in Chicago–leaving poor people, mainly blacks, to live without heat and in danger, or that young black kid dying because of the faulty metal fence, or how Obama would use black people with his speeches (like his lie about Selma) which made black people actually cry and cheer…it’s all a shame.

But those things were simply not reported on enough, and I think a lot of blacks who knew that stuff just didn’t care. It’s a shame. And yes, of course it’s a shame that Hillary and Bill have actually DONE something for black people, and yet people believed they were suddenly racist. What a shame.

Ah well. The Clinton’s actually legitimized it by campaigning for him later.

I think Obama supporters will all experience some big revelations down the road. They are too young/ stupid/ brainwashed now…those things change over time.

FOAD.? What the heck is FOAD?

Ooooooooooooh! FOAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yeep!

TerryDo #421

Thanks Terry. Yes, I agree. I have the two dogs separated so Becca doesn’t have to interact with Luna. I have to keep her very calm until her eye heals so I have her in a special room in my house. The original owner would be happy to take Luna back. He already has 3 other Danes and 4 German Shepards. Luna gets along well with all of them so it would be an easy transition. My daughter agrees that we need to give her back, it’s just hard for me, even though I know it’s the right thing to do. Of course, I will be able to see her anytime I want, but it’s still difficult to give her back because I’m very attached to her.

Well, I’m off for the night, too much drama.

Goodnight PUMAs!

Jennifer for Hillary: I like you straight up with no on the rocks..i.e. no chill!

I think the people who worked for Bo are going to start getting really mad about the whole thing. How about all the poll workers and people who voted 2 or 3 times???
Someone is going to squeel soon. Will they get a better deal and put him under the bus? He really needs to go there.

taggles-
I am ready to fight for fair elections.
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How can we ever fight for fair elections if we sweep the caucus fraud under the rug. We need to have proof that corruption is possible by using examples of how it has already been done. If we start saying that we are against the caucus part of the election without facts – don’t we just sound like we are being fearful something might happen. (I am just using the caucus fraud as one part of the the election voting fraud problem>)

Mick: Good night, Mick. I am so sorry that Becca has lost vision in one eye but am so glad Becca is still with you.

Jennifer
I agree it’s time for blacks to get over themselves!
My son said today that people voted for Obama to have their racist sins “forgiven”. Where did he get THAT idea? Bots equate him to a Messiah. That’s unreal. All the race baiting is downright evil. I’m done with it too and I know any black PUMAs won’t get offended because I know they don’t think that way!

#452BillieJoe: I agree with you. I believe one of the things of the many we will need to do is to make sure we have gathered and/or continue to gather information regarding this ..for simply wanting election reform in the Party system is not going to do it. Perhaps when the video is finished and it is passed around to the antiObama coalition we can as well then make another call for colleciton of documentation from whereever there were caucuses and add it to that which we already have. This is important.

I feel a lil’ better pumas…but I am really really upset right now…

And what pisses me off is I am the type of person who will and DOES give my all (money, love, work) to help everyone….and BO has made me so mad I don’t want to do it anymore..

GOD DAMN HIM and I really mean it…

Okay Pumas,
Time to get down and dirty…The PEOPLE need a voice!! What is the best way to get a voice?? First…support net neutrality! Though, it has been given bad press, net neutrality means that the PEOPLE can’t be silenced. Research it yourself. The FCC is not the only one against net neutrality,find out why!!! Educate yourself (and spread the word) about this.