Your TV Wants You to Cry

I guess I make a good PUMA~ I can sleep 16-18 hrs a day~

Will Pumas ever find the stairs to “take it upstairs”

In baseball, home plate is 9 baseballs wide.

#280 Gypsy Rebel and Airforcehusker (From downstairs):

“Yellow Cake” Yes the report appears to be legit; here I have the link to an MSNBC report dated July 08. Of course the media did not give this information the coverage it deserves; I did not know about this until today:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25546334

6?

Just logged on after being away from any kind of media today. It was actually enjoyable.

“these are not random facts. they are very important”

Does that mean, Murphy that there are no coincidences? Like, was it a coincidence that Ayers and Dorn were a few people down on line to vote from BO?

Murph
I guess I’ll go into snail mode

The United States of America is comprised of 57 states. — Barack Obama

LatinPuma #11. Wait. Doesn’t that mean there WERE weapons of mass destruction? You know, those ones the media has been saying weren’t there and calling Bush a LIAR for like 5 years about?!!! And wouldn’t that be the SAME issue that made people mad at him in the first place about?

So you mean this was all a set up?

Nah. Couldn’t be.

Hispanic4Hillary 11.06.08 at 10:18 pm

Good Evening PUMAS….I am finally getting over my depression of the McCain/Palin loss.

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I’m not sure I’m over the depression – I fear that this fool and his henchmen are going to lead us right into The Great Depression II. And that depresses me big time…

1.) 1920~ After 72 years of struggle, the 19th Amendment to the Constitution was ratified, giving women the right to vote.

2.) The first shelter for battered women was opened in England in 1970 and the first battered woman’s shelter in Arkansas was opened in the late 1970’s. During the past thirty years, battered women and their advocates have struggled to make the criminal justice system, which historically has turned a blind eye to domestic violence, recognize domestic violence as a crime.

I’m not over it~ still very very sad…

Rabblerouser 11.06.08 at 10:21 pm
airforcehusker 11.06.08 at 10:18 pm

So is it true
Al Sharpton was named as a possible head of Dept of Housing and Urban Development
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Are you serious?
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Anti is researching this now.

There where always weapons it was just a matter of where they were at. Many people particularly the media did everything the could to ruin bush. I will give him credit whether people want hear it or not he kept my family safe. I am sure much will come out of the news media now that they have oboma and much if it will probably be positive stuff about things we already new but they wouldnt report as it would be a positive for bush

hi yall…

i gotta story again

i was teaching today and i heard outside my studio 2 of my latino students talking…and saying how that one was the future and how great that one is….btw i dont talk politics with my kids i believe politics and education should be seperate…so anyways…max…my kid from peru comes in with his instrument looking stressed….

A.) IN 2008~ Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton was the first woman to win a major party’s presidential primary for the purposes of delegate selection when she won the primary in New Hampshire on January 8. She also became the first woman to be a presidential candidate in every primary and caucus in every state.

B.) IN 2008~ Alaska Governor Sarah Palin, selected by Senator John McCain as his vice presidential running mate, became the first woman on a national GOP ticket.

There are 18 different animal shapes in the Animal Crackers cookie zoo!

Grizzly 11.06.08 at 10:23 pm

An alligator’s brain is the size of a walnut (which is strangely equivalent of that of an Obama supporter).
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You are too much!

Grizzly 11.06.08 at 10:23 pm
An alligator’s brain is the size of a walnut (which is strangely equivalent of that of an Obama supporter).
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LOL!!

#23 TXRepGir: The report appears to indicate that Hussein had massive amounts of uranium underground and that he was in the process of acquiring more; but it does not specifies if Hussein got into the design/development of nuclear weapons. Thus, the fact that the government maintained this findings sealed for so long it proves the finding was a real threat. Additionally, this statement appears to give weight to Pres Bush’s stance “A CIA officer, Valerie Plame, claimed her identity was leaked to journalists to retaliate against her husband, former Ambassador Joe Wilson, who wrote that he had found no evidence to support assertions that Iraq tried to buy additional yellowcake from Niger.

(Maybe some one else can give a better assessment)

Rabblerouser #25. I know how you feel. I spent two days with a lump in my stomach. I couldn’t eat. I couldn’t sleep. I’ve read the books like 1984 and Animal Farm. I know where this stuff leads. Then I realized that this could take me down just like the announcement of the closing of Canon Air Force Base (which ended up staying open) caused my brother to spiral into a depression he couldn’t beat which ended in him hanging himself last March.

That wasn’t cool either, and I recognized many of the same signs in me in the last two days that he dealt with early on. That’s why I had to find a way to get this thing arrested and stopped before it took me down a place I really did not want to go.

My first step was prayer. If you pray in any way, shape or form, START. You’ve got to get those horrible thoughts drowned out. For me it was the Rosary over and over again. I also sang “Amazing Grace” to myself at night to get the thoughts to stop.

The next step was to get busy doing things, but in small increments. I cleaned the house. I picked up five things (praying the whole time). Then I picked up six things. I made myself move and take control of something.

I also made myself eat. Small amounts. Soup at first and then more. I played music. Soft, relaxing music (and then the “I Get Knocked Down” song at full volume). Gradually, the deep scary depression started to subside.

I beg you, PUMAs, if you are dealing with this like I did, take some of these strategies and try them.

And for the love of God and goodness, shut off that TV! Do not let them take you further down that road. Find a good movie or a good book to read. Rest but don’t use sleep as an escape. That can be dangerous too.

The truth is that all of this is from Satan, and if he can take you out using this, he will in a heartbeat. Don’t let him.

Yes, I still have those moments when the fear creeps back up on me, and those thoughts of “How bad will this get?” start streaming through my mind. But when they do, I counter-program with prayer and singing. I will do what I can control. I will prepare as much as I can. Beyond that, God’s going to have to take care of it.

The Pirate Fish is the only fish that deficates through its throat.

well what do u know about mccain…and he says well he is old and has been in the usa a long time and he is a government person…i then targeted the been in the usa question and max says well obama just dont seem right and then he lowers his voice and said….did u know his middle name is hussein and i said yes…and he said doesnt all this seem weird and i say yes…by this time im just letting him talk…

TXRepGirl
I’m sorry about your brother.
Thank you for your post, all good suggestions.

Grizzly I just made your “brain” comment viral!! That was just too good!!

From downstairs:
kat in your hat 11.06.08 at 6:42 pm
…
. What a LAUGH! Brainwashed by media, by religion, by school, by e.v.e.r.y.t.h.i.n.g. Hey stupid women out there in the world: YOU are the majority. lol…but shhhhhhhhhh, keep it a secret.//
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Hey, lemmings outnumber foxes, too. Chomp!
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353 / Hispanic4Hillary 11.06.08 at 10:17 pm

Good Evening PUMAS….I am finally getting over my depression of the McCain/Palin loss.
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5. Shut down ACORN.
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Easier said than done:
http://tinyurl.com/ClPiChart

That chart shows much (most?) but not all of the network that needs attention. Don’t underestimate your opponent. That’s handing him trumps and spades.

Texrepgirl,

Your thoughts are good. I have gone through much of what everyone else has gone through. I keep myself busy with my hobbies. I run an online sports trading card business. I keep busy with family and tend to hug my two kids alot for no other reason than to feel their warmth. This is very theraputic until i think of their futures with this president. But i have all but turned off the newsmedia except for these types of websites and newsmax, and sometimes drudge otherwise i dont listen to anything.

atypical 11.06.08 at 10:34 pm

I was born at the beginning of the Great Depression so I’ve been poor before. I don’t worry about that as much as I fear the loss of our right to dissent and the suppression of information. You cannot recover from that
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Words of wise-ness! Actually, you can recover, but it takes decades and a counter-revolution and outside allies and lotsa luck.

Phyllis Schlafly: Bill Ayers’ Scary Plans for Public Schools (Obama’s Sec’y of Education?)

http://209.157.64.201/focus/f-news/2110980/posts

ANCHORAGE, Alaska – Gov. Sarah Palin hadn’t been back home in Alaska for a full day and her staff had begun fielding requests Thursday for postelection interviews, including from Barbara Walters, Oprah Winfrey, Larry King and others.
here’s the story
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081107/ap_on_el_pr/palin;_ylt=AnW8VFVl7UCK0uipTkEgtMOMwfIE

As to the yellow cake story and the “set up”… I just meant that the media harped on this over and over and over, telling us that Bush was a liar, there were no WMD’s, we should never have gone into Iraq. They pushed a narrative on this that dragged the public’s opinion of the war into the toilet and Bush’s approval as well. Then O tied McCain to Bush, and said, “We need CHANGE! We need CHANGE! We need HOPE! We don’t need four more years of BUSH!”

And the sheeple believed him because they believed (as they had been told over and over again that Bush was a liar, there were never WMD’s in Iraq). So they voted O in, and now we find out, lo and behold, Bush DIDN’T lie, there WERE WMD’s or at least the stuff to make them…

You know, the more I look at all of this, I blame the MEDIA more than ANYBODY!

In 1670, Dorothy Jones of Boston was granted a license to sell coffee, and so became the first American coffee trader.

Probably because the only way to do all the things a woman must do was with a good shot of caffeine!!

murphy #63

Hahahaa!

well i think its ridiculous to thin saddam had no weapons…and that the whole world was duped.

Hey, Murphy how about the Brizzelnutfish??? Ha Ha….Oh, and the Pelooooooooooosiesicktwistedfish???

If i was palin i would tell all those looking for interviews to go stick it. Thats just my opinion. Isnt it funny that obama and his clones did everything they could to damage this woman but more and more people want to hear about her and see her.

atypical 11.06.08 at 10:34 pm

I was born at the beginning of the Great Depression so I’ve been poor before. I don’t worry about that as much as I fear the loss of our right to dissent and the suppression of information. You cannot recover from that

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I’m not afraid of poverty; I’m afraid of the chaos that comes with and event like the GD; it could set the stage for BO to become the Fascist I believe he is.

rebblerouser
Do you know what is the best repellant for getting rid or detering wildlife.
PUMA piss. It is widely used in Canada to rid wildlife from certain areas of the Alaska Highway where to many animal car accidents occur. Try to get some of that and your wolf friend will not be bothering you.

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DancesWithPumas 11.06.08 at 10:17 pm

There are 60 drops in a teaspoon…
120 in a tablespoon//
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W.R.O.N.G.!

3 tsp. = 1 tbsp
2 tbsp = 1 oz.
8 oz. = 1 cup

#303
bluelady, I like your idea of working within the caucus states and also pressuring the FEC to investigate campaign donations, well-said and don’t lurk so much!

The first female governor was Nellie Tayloe Ross of Wyoming who was elected on November 4, 1924 and sworn in on January 5, 1925.

Oh, klap! My copy grabbed way too much! Pls delete #87, Murphy.

airforcehusker 11.06.08 at 10:44 pm

rebblerouser
Do you know what is the best repellant for getting rid or detering wildlife.
PUMA piss. It is widely used in Canada to rid wildlife from certain areas of the Alaska Highway where to many animal car accidents occur. Try to get some of that and your wolf friend will not be bothering you.

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Interesting…

mp

please explain how bush stole from kerry in 2004?

Short form:
DancesWithPumas 11.06.08 at 10:17 pm
There are 60 drops in a teaspoon…
120 in a tablespoon//
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W.R.O.N.G.!

3 tsp. = 1 tbsp
2 tbsp = 1 oz.
8 oz. = 1 cup

Rabblerouser,

Sounds like you need to go pee in the woods.

TerryDo / slyt2 11.06.08 at 8:59 pm

Ok maybe i am getting a little paranoid here but I sent out a ton of emails today (a little prowl of my own) and I got NO responses back NONE. Usually I will get something back saying they read it(like a autoresponse) but Nothing what is up with that???????????
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Slyt2 I think what may have happened is that they have accumulated your email address and other Pumas email addresses and designated them as spam, and of course they would not respond to spam emails.. Just a guess!

> > > Since we are all still absorbing things this week & reflecting, I suggest we take this opportunity to create new email addresses for ourselves.

hillaryistheone 11.06.08 at 10:48 pm
The first female governor was Nellie Tayloe Ross of Wyoming who was elected on November 4, 1924 and sworn in on January 5, 1925.
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Probably because Wyoming Territory was the first to allow women the right to vote in 1869, and continued that right after becoming a state in 1890.

Dances with Pumas:
thanks so much for posting some math regarding the election. I want to pour through the math at some point. Rush said today that the “young voter” turnout was less than 2004 and that the “excited young voter” was a media created myth.

I know when I went to the Young Dems national convention in 2005 that they were excited because the young voter turnout was higher than 2000 and in 2006 the young voter turnout was higher than 02.

There is various trapping stores and supplie catalogs that actually have these items. I would have to do some looking for you but i know for a fact it exists. I used to trap racoons when i was younger on the farm and would receive these product catalogs and they had all types of scent products you could buy. I will get back to you on this items :0

North/south interstates have odd numbers. East/west interstates are even numbered.

Those little reflective blue dots on the pavement tell the firefighters where the fire hydrants are.

Neither of the above factoids are icky.

clintondemocrat
Pleasure. Will pass your thanks on to GBPuma

Today I get gas~ and as I walked back out to my car from the Wawa some black guy says, [must have saw my stickers on my car] Looks like your honky lost! WELL!!!! my daughter was like Mom, dont say anything!! NO F-in WAY!!! I said, EXCUSE ME??? First of all, there were alot of “honky’s” that helped to win your half honky ass Obama office and as far as it being history for the first black man, you only got half a foot in the door! the other half is still honky! So you think about that! I was so pissed off! and cried all the way home and have been in a rotten mood all night!!

dew 11.06.08 at 10:52 pm

That is why our motto is the “Equality state” GO Wyoming!!

southjerseypuma:
Hillary Rodham Clinton used her own money to be able to defeat her opponent in that election in NY in 2000 as hard as she could because he once responded in a debate with her with “well you’re just ugly”

lisa,
My family has 5 more months here in the United Kingdom and we cant get out of here fast enough. The stuff you talk about is in full force in london but not so much up here in the norwich area. they are believing in allowing this in need for political correctness. Like many things in the states it amazes me how they will support a muslim ideal but trash everything christian. Just my opinion

BrianH. Muslim states.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organization_of_the_Islamic_Conference

#8 DWP
GBPuma your action center spreadsheet is awesome. It even has hyperlinks for each state.

SouthJerseyPUMA 121

Half Honky ass! LOL! Good come back!

sorry you had to run into that one.

atypical 11.06.08 at 10:58 pm

SLYT2

I agree

SouthJerseyPUMA 11.06.08 at 10:54 pm
Whoa! Good for you!
::censored::

SouthJerseyPUMA
You will always have losers in this world and you happened to find one. Dont let them bother you. It was more important for them to put him in the whitehouse than anything else he was going to do.

oh btw…update on my ex friends

one called using a number i didnt know

i told him umm the new order of the day is …its ok to throw your friends and associates under the bus…ur fucking obama threw his granny under the bus …so fvck u and our friendship.

Way to stand up for yourself, South Jersey!

AIRFORCEHUSKER
Time to pull out a great post re:political correctness

CLEAN END OF THE TURD
Missy on 10.04.08 at 11:33 am
YOU’VE GOT MAIL — I just received this from two different friends — it’s worth passing on to PUMAs!
The following is the winning entry in an annual contest at Texas A&M
University calling for the most appropriate definition of a contemporary
term: This year’s term was Political Correctness.
The winner wrote:
“Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical
minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which
holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd
by the clean end”
R.J.Wiedemann.LtCol.USMC Ret.
http://blog.pumapac.org/2008/10/04/in-the-news/#comments

#129 Could it be that the clintons are alot like normal americans much like sarah was and that is why they dont understand them and find the only way they can deal with them is to destory them.

clinton

2000 is legitimate…but 2004…..with john kerry!!!!…..lol come on…

but lets move on! more important things now

#26 DWP

I am embarrassed to admit – I never knew how to make those little smilies. Now I am afraid I will become obsessed with them. Time for my meds before the OCD takes over.

atypical that is what I was thinking too, say NO what would be the point they wouldn’t be nice and would only try to ruin her more in the public eye.
GOOD NITE EVERYONE.. Talk to you in the morning.

SouthJerseyPUMA 11.06.08 at 11:05 pm
antifish 11.06.08 at 10:57 pm

OK, for a prowl, we need to order mass quantities of Puma pee and spread it all around the White House grounds before the wolves arrive.
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I’ll drive there to help!!!!
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Watch out for the arms!!

I wont guarantee that but i can tell you that mountain lions or pumas are very private creatures. They normally dont scent areas persay or try to attract by leaving marks like bears, coyottes, etc do. So i would imagine you probably would be safe. We to in Nebraska are being told there are no mountain lions but people happen to see them all the time. It makes good sense to see the lions spreading throughout the united states with more and more good habitat and a deer population just ballooning all over the united states they should flourish with everything they need.

Ut oh I was afraid of this…PUMAs have too much time on their hands since the election is over.

Ario, I am so sorry you are having to deal with friends and family because of your choice in the election. I told my sister last night when we were chatting on line,we need to agree to disagree. She wanted to talk about how now we will have change and I told her, “Yes we will, just not so sure if its the change you will like.” She said, “At least now the war can end and the soldiers can come home.” I said, “Actually the soldiers will be redistributed to Afghanistan the same way your money is going to be redistruibuted to people who don’t want to work. She then said, “So how is your grandchild doing?” I replied, LOLOLOL

yea there were a few “F” bombs in there that I left out~ but I do believe i made my point with him and shut him up because he didnt have a come back~ he just stood there!

Topic: Mediagate, Plamegate, & REZKOgate

Valerie Plame – we “may” be hearing more about her http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valerie_Plame as a sidenote in any future news stories about the REZKO
http://blogs.suntimes.com/rezko/ case. That’s because this guy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Fitzgerald

is in charge of investigating REZKO

http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/01/19/patrick-fitzgerald-ties-obama-to-rezko-indictments/

Also, I thought this was interesting to know:

“On July 18, 2005, Fitzgerald’s office indicted a number of top aides to Democrat Richard M. Daley, the mayor of Chicago, on charges of mail fraud,” looks like a good guy for the job?!

I doubt OBAMA would tap him, but if Fitzgerald is offered the position of Attorney General, I doubt he would accept it or step into it until he was finished with this case. He’s a very thorough guy, and past actions indicate he is not “buyable.”

MKfromLA 11.06.08 at 11:04 pm
#26 DWP
I am embarrassed to admit – I never knew how to make those little smilies. Now I am afraid I will become obsessed with them. Time for my meds before the OCD takes over.
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Given your background, that’s a riot!!
Here’s a trick. When you see a smilie on the blog that you want to use… hover your cursor over it and the code will appear.

156 SouthJerseyPUMA

Massive quantities of PUMA pee would be considered yellow cake, and yellow cake is considered a WMD.

I wrote Sarah Palin a really nice thank you letter today. I walked out of the living room when Entertainment tonight was coming on and I heard Lara saying more crap about Sarah. Why are they so willing to trash Sarah?

Oneof18million cracks
ditto i did the same on behalf of my family

LOL all us pumas need to mark our territory as well as D C.

Hey Puma’s

Goofsdad has a question. He will be hosting on Tuesday nights on Ed Hale’s radio program and he needs a name for the show and would like suggestions.

from AC email:
“…thanks for the responses they were great and really appreciated.” Gbpuma

What is the most frustrating thing for me is my sister refused to get informed. Every time I tried to give her information her response was the same, “All politicians are corrupt you can’t trust any of them.” She did not want any facts.

well, gonna go for a walk in cyber space… i’ll be in lurking mode~ have some emails to catch up on.. peace~

one18

my first issue is his race card….second is the baby issue….third is his intl policy….and they are all bunched very close

Hi antifish!
Hey guess what my daughter just came in & told me, she said “Mom, why did the Obama’s all wear red & black the other night, those are GANG colors and we are not allowed to wear them at school. I was SHOCKED they were wearing those colors, mom!”

I had no answer (?), first I’d heard of those colors = gang activity.

((((((((Sandi))))))))!!!

airforce

so just imagine babies aborted in 8th month and left to die! thats murder sorry if that offends anyone!

goofsmom, I’ll try & help you w/a name, what will be some of his topics…?

I couldnt imagine it and worse off those would be children able to survive. This child was obviously going to die but it still didnt make it any easier for me. But yes imagine if it was a 8month baby and they would just leave it in a room.

What kind of person could support that…..Obama

Hello everyone Rurouni MakowashiNatsuko is here back from her long and boring American History class.(and a hot shower that I needed badly)

Let me just say the topics that we talked about today was Slavery, the Great Awakening and Women right’s movements.
15-20 minutes was spent on the Great Awakening, 15-10 on Women right’s, and the right of the 2 and a half hour class was spent on Slavery.

And may I point out that this professor started the lecture with a gleeful smile and the first two slides of the power point were comics from the news paper about how GREAT Obama was…he ended the lecture saying: and to think the slavery ended in 1865 and now it is 2008 and we have a black man in office.

It took all I could to bite my tongue to not say something….and may I note this man doesn’t like people who think outside the box…

Rabblerouser 11.06.08 at 11:21 pm
“That’s what people said to me – oh, that’s just politics. Unbelievable…”
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I just wanted to scream at her and say, I hope you don’t choke on that kool-aide. But then she is so not informed she would not have understood what I meant. grrrrrrr

Hillstheone

Thank you
Ed just asked him to take the show about 1/2 hour ago, so he is still working on that…

You could look at goofsdad’s site and see if that helps…

http://freedommarch.org

Oneof18million cracks

The reason the church and yes i am catholic didnt want to take a stance is because they knew obama will be coming after churches that disagree with him. The will be using the rule of politics and tax free status to silence churches. I am sure this was a major discussed by church officials. Yes as a catholic no one and i repeat no one should have voted for obama. If you believe catholic doctrine and abortion is murder than as a catholic supporting the right for this is commiting a grave sin and you are just as guilty in your actions.

airforcehusker 11.06.08 at 11:24 pm

Its unbelievable how people can justify their positions. I asked who is there to protect the rights of that baby outside the womb? Yet we have the constitution to protect human rights. Unbelieveable.

I asked that same question and my wife and i had many talks about that same idea.

Southjerseypuma,
Sadly, I think there will be a lot of that type of triumphalist behavior from AAs, but not just AA’s,all the Obots who think they have conquered the world. They can cra* on you because their leader did it repeatedly, so did the press and lots of “progressive” women. This kind of vile confrontational stuff is what OBO promoted.
One by one we should begin to organize and punish the Obots that did this to us so they can never do this again. Just pick a target for a prowl. I’m thinking of Sandra Bernhardt, (some political theatre for her) Nancy Pelosi (getting organized right now to challenge her seat in 2010). There are lots of things we can begin to do.
It’s easy for me to say these things, I know. But it won’t be long before the hideous thing that is the “Obama Nation” may be exposed for what it is.
My heart goes out to you.

airforcehusker 11.06.08 at 11:27 pm “Yes as a catholic no one and i repeat no one should have voted for obama. If you believe catholic doctrine and abortion is murder than as a catholic supporting the right for this is commiting a grave sin and you are just as guilty in your actions.”
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This is exactly what I posed to everyone sitting in that Bible study. My deacon did say we could lose our tax exempt status if he talked candidates. I said well I am NOT talking candidates I am talking issues and scripture and the Catholic doctrine. They all just sat mute.

gypsy rebel 11.06.08 at 10:25 pm

LatinPuma It’s really wild – thanks for the information. So the news thought this was insignificant??
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Yeah, they assumed it was being piled up as a way to get round food shortages. Saddam: “Let them eat (yellow)cake!”
:p

bye Ario

Just catching up.. Very good story about your peruvian student.. out of the mouth of babes.

Rabblerouser…. And other people just had stupid reason, the most common one was that Palin was stupid and too inexperienced to be president. The illogic of that statement has always amazed me.
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You are so right both of my older sisters said just that. And an elderly lady in my Bible study said, “Well I sure don’t want Barbie as the president when he dies.” I was speechless.

MakowashiNatsuko 11.06.08 at 11:25 pm

Hello,
Give your professor a poor evaluation at the end of your class. Some colleges watch evaluations closely.

rabblerouser

People wanted BO in an emotional way.

Your statement made me wonder. Arent alot of people out there who supported obama doing this only because of what you just said. If this is the case than that shows me right now people are so desperate for something in their own life that they are going to believe that someone else will give them meaning. Meaning and value comes from our family and faith and not another human being that is a stranger. I find it scary that people and yes we all know them supported him because of a belief in what a feelign he gives them. It is a simple falacy nothing more and i think alot of these people will have buyers remorce and the paychecks and paybacks dont start coming there way.
It is easier to think someone is going to take care of you thank realizing we control our own destiny and must take care of ourselves and our family.

murphy 11.06.08 at 11:32 pm

the stock market doesnt like obama.

this is not a random fact.
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Well, the only TV I watch now is HGTV, the Weather channel and CNBC because they all HATE BO.

Obama Win Causes Obsessive Supporters To Realize How Empty Their Lives Are

http://www.theonion.com/content/video/obama_win_causes_obsessive?utm_source=embedded_video

Now I have to decide when I will return to Bible study. The deacon and his wife are our best friends and they did respect me throughout the election knowing we were not voting for the same candidate.

#216, Lol, Murphy!

#220 snowtiger, even the male boars? Lol…

211 One of 18
I guess Rev. Wright’s Church hasn’t lost its tax exempt
status, nor Fr. Pfleger’s, nor Rev. Manning’s for that matter(lol)

Beth 11.06.08 at 11:33 pm

I more then likely will he needs it…

goofsmom 11.06.08 at 11:35 pm

they were better. But I still could feel the tension in the air…and a lot of the obots are now grouping together in groups and I think they might try to strong arm people….

I mostly sat in one of the hallways glaring at people…I was so tempted to just yell out how stupid everyone was for voting for the Jester that I almost lost it a few times….

Murphy can you tell me if this is a joke. I was at Hillbuzz and read this in the comment section:

chai Says:
November 5, 2008 at 4:04 pm
Hmmmm: my earlier post not posted, and now I see this:
Hillbuzz Says:
November 5, 2008 at 4:00 pm
Hi guys. Just to let you know you’ve all been scamed. My real name in Ahmed Hamid and I’m a Palestinian National. Thanks for all the donations. They will be put to good use against the imperialist USA.

Did you read the article there after the election on my PUMAs did not succeed? It was so not like the Hillbuzz before the election.

airforcehusker 11.06.08 at 10:40 pm

Interesting thing i just thought. If bush new about the wmds and did everything he could to keep these secret in regards to the safety of the american people. He would have sacrificed his legacy, his party and alot of his peoples future in order to protect the United States from further harm if these would have made there way into bad folks hands what does that say about him. An American Savior or an Idiot. Makes you think doesnt it.
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One word: OPSEC. YCLIU.

I am going into game rooms and places like that and getting peoples feelings on this election and most are upset. So i tell them about us and give them the info they need.If i talk to 50 and get 1 or 2 in here i will be happy.

MakowashiNatsuko
Lol. And here I thought a good opportunity to pick up some japanese.
Means hello. I am at your service. Found it at a translator on line .
At least I hope it means that.

I know no Japanese myself.

My hubby is channel surfing and Letterman and Leno are both hitting their sick jokes on Palin. I yelled in and said, “How disgusting.” He changed the channel to ESPN

zolo
I uploade your link to the Sexism section of the Action Center, in case you need it again.
Thanks again!

Moon trivia:
The Sea of Tranquility is on the Moon. It’s not a real sea, but a “maria,” one of the regions on the Moon that appear dark when looking at it.
Colonial American culture called the October full moon the Hunter’s Moon, and the November full moon the Beaver moon. Also, Baskin-Robbins introduced the flavor “Lunar Cheesecake” to commemorate America’s landing on the moon on July 20, 1969.

snowtiger007 11.06.08 at 11:40 pm

Ah well it also mean congratulations as well. You either at late evening great people Konbonwa in the afternoon it is Konichiwa. and if you are going to use I it is: Boku wa (insert male name here (Watashi wa is female or informal way of saying I am)) and if you want to ask if someone is well you say Genki desu ka?

they will then replay Genki desu ka anata wa? (I am well and what of you?)

You: Genki desu.

Someone just emailed me and said PUMA’s believe in big government and high taxes, Lol…

airforcehusker
I have to give this a lot of thought. It is so hypocritical to sit in a room studying scripture and talking about the commandments and then know these same people voted for a candidate that is in complete opposession to our doctrine.

#254 GB PUMA, I hope Dances has your email on her resources list for the PUMA Action site…

BrianH 11.06.08 at 10:54 pm

I don’t think so. And we BETTER not take the Sharia lightly, either!!!

And the professor also said that the MEDIA took the side of the Republicans to much to his liking…I kind of looked at him like: what channels were you watching buddy….

Pumas, you know what else is black and red? That Weather Underground symbol that Murphy had posted the other day. So is William Ayers symbol on his blog which is a red communist star on a black folded circle. Not trying to inspire further conspiracy theories here, just saying, coincidence?

Stop taking Obama lightly, people. The SOB made it to the Presidency so far didn’t he? And ayers and Dorhn escaped going to prison. BO’s financial backers are not lightweights.
Get serious people, while we still can!!!!

snowtiger007 11.06.08 at 11:40 pm 245

MakowashiNatsuko
Lol. And here I thought a good opportunity to pick up some japanese.
Means hello. I am at your service. Found it at a translator on line .
At least I hope it means that.
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Maybe a month ago someone here had a link to a site that would translate anything into any language of your choice. Is someone on, who remembers?

Has anyone noticed on other message boards, such as espn, college football, politico, townhall, usatoday etc. that all the obomabots that were so prevelant on those boards are basically gone now. Makes you wonder if there was truth to the email from the sarah obama staffer who said they intentially infiltrated boards to depress conservatives or others planning on voting against him. They used to be everywhere and in every forum from sports, hunting, politics fishing , it wouldnt matter where i went they where there.

airforcehusker

It is not you and NO I could never get my faiths mixed up and have a slip of the tongue.

Something more interesting is the night of the election Brit Hume slipped up and called Obama an immigrant and someone corrected him and said he is US born. I thought I was hearing things.

I just watched Murphy’s video she posted and those young people are pitiful. If I didn’t see it with my own eyes I would say it was doctored.

MakowashiNatsuko
Lol So much for the translator.
How do you say BBL/ cause thats me right now,
Thanks for lesson.
Ciao,
(thats Italian for ciao)

atypical

Here it is
http://translator.imtranslator.net/

OK Pumas, have to go to bed. My Frodo is fussing at me big time. At first he was play-growling, now he’s kinda crying. Goodnight all! Now he’s making really weird noises, LOL!

snowtiger007 11.06.08 at 11:53 pm

How you say that: Jya ne! (see you later!)

and you’re welcome for the lesson.

sanipuma
try this link…same video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bCuEXrU-yQ

DancesWithPumas 11.06.08 at 11:51 pm

Obama Win Causes Obsessed Backers To See How Empty Lives Are
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3_95F5e-Ac&eurl=http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2008/11/06/laid-back-thursday/
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LMAO!!

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PUMA’s – Approach this material with caution.
I saw the original link.
There was a video on a INDIA – PAKISTAN tension.
That was, I thought, utter satire with a straight face.
I think this was for the OBOTS. There was no truth to it.
The new analysis was a count down on a nuclear war between the 2 nations. Nonsense.

But on hindsight, that was actually funnier than CNN(i saw that channel a few months back)

CyberFerret52 11.06.08 at 11:55 pm

#355 catsarepumas

Before you do all of that, check your make and model number on the drive and see if you deleted the driver. You can download it and the computer should install it.
If that doesn’t work if you have XP you can try a repair. Good luck!

Oneof18million cracks… 11.06.08 at 11:56 pm

It’s sick and sad…I’m starting to think that I’m not a 21 year old and not one of my generation…am I a 40 year old trap in a 21 year old body?! I feel like I have become so jaded due to this election and that I have in fact become very bitter.

mountainsong 11.06.08 at 11:48 pm

Stop taking Obama lightly, people. The SOB made it to the Presidency so far didn’t he? And ayers and Dorhn escaped going to prison. BO’s financial backers are not lightweights.
Get serious people, while we still can!!!!
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What does this mean????

zolo 11.06.08 at 11:47 pm
thanks Dances… hum didn’t realize we had a sexism section. will have to check it out.
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MakowashiNatsuko 11.06.08 at 11:25 pm
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and to think the slavery ended in 1865 and now it is 2008 and we have a black man in office.

It took all I could to bite my tongue to not say something….and may I note this man doesn’t like people who think outside the box…//
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Go all sweet an’ innercent and ask, “Gee, perfesser, someone was talking about that and said, ‘Be careful what you ask for. You may get it.’ What did they mean?” Blink, blink.

sandipuma
the link is also posted at the top of teh Comic Relief section
http://pumapac.org/comic.html

MakowashiNatsuko
Dont be bitter be proactive. Inform and become informed. Talk and influence others. There will be a time when the truth comes out or people loose faith in boama. It will happen as he is a human just like you and me. People will see him for what he is and it is at this time you can have sweet revenge by convincing them that what they are seeing is what you have always seen. All you are going to be doing is flickin on the lightbulb for them. Keep the faith…….

I say Kay Ryan Poet Laureate, being interviewed on Charlie Rose and she said that one of her favorite poems was Turtle.
It is a poem about frustration; she wrote it when she was going through a frustrating time.
I just thought Pumas might enjoy her sentiments.

Turtle
Kay Ryan
Who would be a turtle who could help it?
A barely mobile hard roll, a four-oared helmet,
She can ill afford the chances she must take
In rowing toward the grasses that she eats.
Her track is graceless, like dragging
A packing-case places, and almost any slope
Defeats her modest hopes. Even being practical,
She’s often stuck up to the axle on her way
To something edible. With everything optimal,
She skirts the ditch which would convert
Her shell into a serving dish. She lives
Below luck-level, never imagining some lottery
Will change her load of pottery to wings.
Her only levity is patience,
The sport of truly chastened things.

BrianH 11.07.08 at 12:01 am

I should do that lol. But he always tells me that my ideas in my papers are not along the thought lines that someone my age should have…like how I said that America after the Revolution was still more of an off branch of England that there really WAS not a true American identity yet.

And he wrote on my paper that I shouldn’t be thinking that America was just Neo-European…but they WERE still Neo-European! Gah this man makes me so man! He’s an angry little constipated Jewish man! (and I have nothing against Jews…I am one)

Murphy is that video real or just a joke?

it makes me want to write letters LOL. Like to Okra and to Ellen LOL.

crap, Murphy already posted it.

zolo 11.07.08 at 12:07 am
I usually don’t watch the Onion but found this. It put a smile on my face.
Maybe ob will have to reopen the psych wards to house his many volunteers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3_95F5e-Ac
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this is the video that murphy and sandipuma were talking about. Thank you anyway.

atypical 11.06.08 at 11:48 pm
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Maybe a month ago someone here had a link to a site that would translate anything into any language of your choice. Is someone on, who remembers?//
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translate.google.com works pretty well.

In a short period of time they will see they have plenty to talk about. Because that’s all any of us will be ABLE to do…just talk!

Oneof18million cracks… 11.07.08 at 12:09 am

He is one! I swear he always sounds like he is annoyed or angry at something. His lectures are boring, he sounds like he doesn’t even want to be teaching the class, and this is my once a week class…a two and a half hour class.. TWO AND A HALF HOURS….I have to spend in that class…listening to him being an angry little Jewish man with a bad part…

If I were Sarah Palin. I would give the people wanting to interview her that famous line she had. “Thanks but no thanks”!

MakowashiNatsuko

When i was young i had a congressman in the 2nd district of omaha that always voted against alot of things nebraska believed in. His name was Peter Hoagland. I very much disliked this man and his policies and always asked how could this guy always get reelected to the congress. I remember writing him about certain bills and have him write me back basically saying he was voting one way but than do the opposite in the congress. Needless to say i devoted much time for one election to get him defeated, well i lost again as the guy i supported lost. i lost faith and got angry and needless to say military service took me to alaska.
What is the moral of this story. The following year Peter Hoagland was voted out by John Christensen. I was so happy and wondered how much of the work i did talking to people, sending out mailers etc made a difference. Remember to keep faith, find people who are positive and get energy from them and remember if you do nothing you have no one to blame for your actions but yourself.

I feel like a Link Librarian.

Day One: Obama faces a Cold War threat and a warning from Israel

By Joe Murphy

07th November 2008

Barack Obama was confronting a looming international crisis just hours after his White House election triumph.

The U.S. President-elect faced a triple threat with Russia, Israel and Afghanistan all threatening to test his mettle.

Locked away in his Chicago home, Mr Obama received his first national security intelligence briefing yesterday as he wrestled with appointments for his Cabinet.

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Straight to work: President-elect Obama faces a looming international crisis

He ventured out twice, once to visit his local gym and then his downtown offices.

Each time he was escorted by a convoy of black vehicles carrying heavily armed secret service agents.

Aides said he planned no public appearances until later in the week.

Russian President Dmitry Medvedev was first to lay down a challenge to America’s new leader – by increasing tension in a stand off reminiscent of the Cold War.

In a provocative speech from the Kremlin, he threatened to base warheads along the Polish border if Mr Obama goes forward with a Bush administration plan to create a missile shield in Eastern Europe.

Obama security

Then Israel warned last night that the new U.S. Commander-in-Chief’s campaign claim that he was ready to open talks with Iran could be seen in the Middle East as a sign of weakness.

After eight years of staunch support from President Bush, the Israelis are now watching Mr Obama closely – even though he does not take power until January – looking for indicators as to how he will handle the nuclear threat from Tehran.

‘We live in a neighbourhood in which dialogue – in a situation where you have brought sanctions and you then shift to dialogue – is liable to be interpreted as weakness,’ said Israeli foreign minister Tzipi Livni.

Asked if she supported any U.S. talks with Iran, she quickly said: ‘The answer is no.
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In a step that will further increase Israel’s anxiety about Obama, Tehran announced last night that President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad had broken a 29-year tradition and sent his congratulations to the President-elect – the first time an Iranian leader has offered such wishes since the 1979 Islamic Revolution.

Ahmadinejad congratulated the Democrat on ‘attracting the majority of voters in the election’.

He said he hoped Obama will ‘use the opportunity to serve the (American) people and leave a good name for history’ during his term in office.

Iran and the U.S. have had no formal diplomatic relations since 1979 when militant Iranian students held 52 Americans captive 444 days.

President Bush has repeatedly clashed with Tehran over its nuclear program and its opposition to the U.S.-led invasions and occupations of Afghanistan and Iraq.

In Afghanistan, President Hamid Karzai demanded that Mr Obama ‘put an end to civilian casualties’ by changing U.S. military tactics to avoid airstrikes in the war on the Taliban.

He spoke out after seven wedding party guests were accidentally killed by an American airstrike in the southern Kandahar province. Afghan officials said last night 13 gunmen were killed in the attack.

Mr Obama has vowed to switch the U.S. military focus from Iraq to Afghanistan and is reportedly planning to ask Britain to send 3,000 extra troops to bolster extra American forces in the region.

But his aides fear a public backlash if he moves swiftly in Afghanistan before acting on his pledge to start a withdrawal from Iraq.

Gordon Brown became one of the first world leaders to congratulate Obama in a ten-minute telephone call last night. Aides said they discussed Obama’s plans for a phased withdrawal from Iraq and his commitment to boost forces in Afghanistan.

Speaking from the South Lawn of the White House, President Bush said he would be meeting Mr Obama next week and is making ‘unprecedented efforts’ to make a smooth transition during his final 74 days in office.

As if the instant foreign policy tests were not enough, Mr Obama was also facing more economic problems with the Dow Jones Index dropping for a second successive day.

Wall Street greeted his election win by plunging nearly 500 points on Wednesday and it was down again by 274 points in afternoon trading.

While new presidents often take weeks before naming their Cabinet, Mr Obama was quick out of the blocks yesterday, offering the chief-of-staff job to tough-talking congressman Rahm Emanuel, a veteran of the Clinton administration, and more appointments are expected next week.

#319 BrianH,

I use this translator, http://translation2.paralink.com/
You can even hit the text to speech horn and it says the word or phrase for you.

I have never watched much TV so someone pls. tell me what is HGTV

I canceled my satellite service right after the election. There is no reason to watch anything on TV anymore. Plus I don’t want to see BOBO any more then I absolutely have to.

Comment by Neutral and hopeful
November 6th, 2008 at 11:27 pm
Greta,
You’ve got to get over Sarah Palin! She brought some of this on herself. Hillary has taken this crap from the media for years and no one has come to her rescue. Sarah can handle herself, and frankly I’m sick of hearing about her. Let’s get on to the news, fair and balanced!
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I’m happy to tell you Neutral but we will NEVER get over how Gov. Palin was treated or Hillary for that matter……..you must be a man.

I put all the translators in the Geek section
(language geeks?)

ugh I feel better, I bet I tried to post that comment 40 times on Gretawire and it never would appear…more of that invisible ink I guess.

November 5, 2008
Thoughts on how we got this election so wrong
Posted by hillbuzz under Uncategorized
[46] Comments
We’re still working through introspection on the electoral results, but this morning we’re thinking about what clues we missed during the election that should have foreseen the landslide President-Elect Obama won last night.

We truly believed John McCain would win a relatively close race — and were absolutely wrong. Why? There are three main reaons we can think of so far, but will undoubtedly find many more as we get further removed from the moment and are able to see where our thinking went wrong.

(1) We did not imagine a generational shift of this magnitude was possible and never believed young voters would actually turn the vote out (because they never had before): You have to give credit where it is most assuredly due — the Obama ground game was top notch, though we repeatedly discounted it. In retrospect, we made the classic Marginot Line mistake, where we viewed the battles at hand through the lens of those that preceded them. We missed the real impact of Obama’s registration and social networking efforts because we assumed they’d fail the same way Gore and Kerry’s efforts failed the last two elections. That was a critical error — and we should have realized how formidable Obama’s organization was after the Iowa caucus, and how we witnessed his ground game completely overwhelm Clinton’s (with the same thing repeateding in every caucus state except Nevada). They played to win time and again in the primaries, so we should never have discounted their impact in the general election either. That was a critical mistake, as was the assumption Obama’s “youth army” wasn’t a force to be reckoned with (squarely because we remember “youth armies” never carrying the day for other candidates).

Just because things never worked before, and just because young voters never turned out before, we assumed they wouldn’t work or turn out again. Boy, was that ever wrong.

We also believed we still had an election or two before the Baby Boom generation was willing and able to pass the torch to their children — and that proved decidedly not to be the case. Obama is the first post-baby boom generation president, who came to office 8 years before we would have expected. We were convinced Boomers wouldn’t vote against one of their own (McCain) in numbers as large as they did, especially in Ohio and Pennsylvania. We’re truly floored by this — because it means Boomers only had 16 years in the White House before surrendering the national mantle we expected them to carry for a total of about 24 years (since Bill Clinton was the first Boomer president, and George W. Bush the second…with Obama the first of a new generation of presidents). That is a remarkable shift we never considered — like parents handing over the keys to the family car and putting their children in the driver’s seat for keeps. We never dreamed they’d do that, because we didn’t think the next generation was ready yet, but that’s exactly what Boomers did.

(2) We believed the driving force for this election would be logic and not emotion (and were 100% wrong): From the very beginning, we looked at Obama as someone who has no major accomplishments to his resume, with no lists of tangible achievements. We always saw this election the way we’ve seen every other election: as a hiring decision. That’s how Clinton and McCain both couched things, and both failed in their candidacies because that thining was 100% out of synch with the zeitgeist. Voters weren’t casting their vote based on resumes and logic — they were operating from a place of emotion (raw emotion, for some people).

Thinking about this today, we realize Obama’s “hope and change” landslide is the bookend to the shock and horror of 9/11 seven years ago. In the fall of 2001, America experienced a brutal psychological shock that changed the way we as a nation see the world. We got scared, and the reaction that followed was several years of running on pure emotion — where anyone who questioned the government was called an unpatriotic traitor, and it didn’t matter to anyone whether there really were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq (because people were so shaken by 9/11 itself that they gave the Bush Administration the benefit of the doubt, operating on the emotional level they were still on in 2003). So, a natural cycle played out where people lived in terror and paranoia for two years (coming on the heels of the Y2K paranoia that caused homeowners to build Y2K shelters in their basements, stocked with provisions for the global computer failure that never thankfully never came), then emotionally acted out against any criticism of the government regarding the Iraq war for another two years or so, before finally ending that curve with emotional regret of ever getting involved in Iraq to begin with.

Obama’s candidacy perfectly rode that last surge of emotion — and he was remarkably fortunate to have not been in the Senate when the Iraq War vote was cast (not to mention being shrewd enough to turn a little-noticed speech delivered in Springfield, IL as a state legislator into an emotional rallying point for a campaign, perfectly timed with Americans’ psychological turn against the Bush Administration and the public’s guilt and regret for blindly supporting the war in 2003). Psychologically, people seem to be ashamed for so blindly following the WMDs claims and other justifications for the war — and saw in Obama an outlet for that angst. They latched onto his assertion that he was against the war from the start; since the public now wished they had been against the war from the start too (which they weren’t, because the rush to war had 90% approval ratings in 2003), an emotional bond formed with Obama that was more powerful than we had ever realized. In a way, supporting him relieved their guilt over buying the Bush Administration’s WMD claims, now that public opinion shifted against the war so completely.

Obama’s “hope and change” message was very well tailored to take advantage of the natural cycle of emotions Americans went through after 9/11 — announcing his candidacy in 2007, after 6 years in which Americans were severely shocked psychologically and wanted to get back to feeling the way they did on September 10th, 2001. There could not have been a better campaign theme to capitalize on this desire than “hope and change”. People wanted to feel good again, after being scared and angst-ridden for so long…and this message sold like hotcakes (or, waffles if you prefer). In retrospect, Axelrod is a genius for capitalizing on all of this because he must have appreciated the Yin/Yang nature of all this psychologically.

The “shock and horror” of 9/11 was the dark yin (fear, terror, loss, anger, guilt, shame) that could be balanced with “hope and change” as the bright yang (good feelings, optimism, pride, freedom from worry). It’s a message that would not have worked in 2004, because Americans were still transitioning through that cycle of fear and anger and had not yet moved into the regret of the war needed to make that yang so desirable. So, Obama’s timing was impeccable and fulfilled a need voters had in numbers larger than we ever imagined.

We never once looked at his candidacy through an emotional lens, which was a human failing of ours. We looked at his record in Illinois and the US Senate and did not see someone we felt was qualified to be president because we never saw an instance of Obama showing leadership and tackling difficult issues (or risking anything politically by taking unpopular positions because they were the right thing to do). So, our opposition to him was firmly rooted in what we knew about him, not how we felt about him. Our mistake was assuming Americans would vote based on what they knew about him, and not how they felt about him — and last night proved that to be 100% wrong.

(3) We believed Obama’s past, his record, and his chosen associations would cancel out the media-fueled phenomenon he became: We see clearly we had blinders on from working nonstop on this campaign since the spring of 2007. Literally, we’ve done little else besides phone bank, canvass, blog, and provide visibility for first Hillary Clinton and then John McCain for almost two years. No movies, no vacations, no activities unrelated to the campaign. We became really and truly obsessed with this election — throwing everything we had into this. Tony Rezko, Jeremiah Wright, William Ayers, Donnie McClurken, Yesse Yehudah, Bernadine Dohrn, and the host of questionable associations of Obama became all we read about since the Iowa caucus, when the tactics we saw Obama’s ground game employ back in January convinced us that if people just knew the whole story about how much dirty Chicago politics were involved in Obama’s rise that they would surely snap out of the “hope change” mindset and see Obama for who we knew he really was: another Chicago politician who games the system.

But, the public never cared about Obama’s associations or record. Just like in (2) above, it was all about the emotion, especially when the media crafted a perfect narrative for his candidacy, since that was the story they wanted to tell. The media’s news cycle either drives the public’s emotional cycle or is an accurate reflection of it — we don’t know which. But, the media needed a new story to tell after the 9/11 yin had played itself out, and Obama emerged with perfect timing to capitalize on that. Of course no reporters would vert Obama thoroughly or explore his Illinois record and shady associations in any detail. That would ruin the narrative the media wanted to drive. We should have seen that, and realized there never was an effective way to counter any of this. Once Axelrod set the “hope change” meme in motion, this campaign became an emotional juggernaut immune to logic or any mountain of facts anyone could dig up.

It’s hard to tell how the “hope change” cycle plays out…but people universally seem euphoric over Obama’s election and we truly do say we are happy for them. Seeing Jesse Jackson cry tears of pride last night on TV was something we won’t ever forget — and we are glad so many Civil Rights leaders are alive today and were able to witness Obama’s election, because it culminates a movement they started so long ago. We don’t see how that can’t be a good thing for the nation going forward — and in that sense Obama’s presidency will be transformative, because it is historic and momentous. We have at least two years of media praise coming for Obama on this fact alone, because it is a celebration long coming for the black community.

After that, who knows, because the media always needs a new story to tell and a new cycle to run. Our concern is that Obama’s closet full of political and ethical skeletons isn’t going anywhere, and is ripe fodder for scandal-of-the-day should the media decide, two years or so from now, to change the narrative and finally vet Obama, midway through his term in office. Everything rests on how effective he is as president and what judgment he shows in this job, so maybe the “hope change” euphoria will last through 2012 and beyond. Or maybe two years of euphoria are followed by disappointment and disillusionment, since it’s going to be near-impossible to live up to the soaring rhetoric and emotional heights engendered by this campaign.

By winning that landslide last night, Obama earned the right to show all of us what hope and change really mean. We think Democrats and Republicans of all stripes can agree that we’re all rooting for Obama now, no matter how much we aggressively opposed his election. Like a heated trial that went before a jury, that verdict is in and it’s one we must all accept.

Pessimism is unwarranted because Obama succeeded beyond our wildest expectations — what he accomplished is truly remarkable, so there is no logical reason for us to say he can’t do everything he promises. He honestly does seem truly touched by something powerful — and while we will never understand the emotional pull his supporters have in him, we do realize we’re missing out on something unprecedented we’re just not connected to.

We don’t think we can just will ourselves to buy into all of this now — any more than we lifelong Democrats were able to will ourselves into buying into it during the election (which is why we became Democrats for McCain, since we just didn’t get the emotional appeal of Obama when logically McCain’s bipartisan record and resume of achievements seemed the better choice to us, even if that meant crossing party lines).

But, here is what we are going to do: we’re going to open our eyes and ears and take in everything Obama says and does going forward. We are going to put our hope and faith in him to do what is best for America, regardless of the political cost. That’s what we knew Hillary Clinton or John McCain would do, and since Obama’s been chosen to sit behind the Resolute Desk, that’s what we are going to believe he will do as well.

We realize intense emotions went into this campaign on all sides — but if bipartisanship is to work, then the absolute least we can do to change the way business is done in Washington is to at least give Obama a chance to prove himself. We will be critical of him when he deserves it, and will praise him when he has earned it, the same as we have done for any president before him. Though we rooted against him since 2007, we all as Americans should root for him now. Even Republicans, because that’s what Senator McCain and Governor Palin are doing right now.

Instead of approaching Obama’s presidency from a point of automatic contention, why don’t we all change the way we do things and look for areas where we can work with an Obama Administration on things we can accomplish with bipartisan spirit?

Let our end of the bargain be this promise to be fair to him and to work with him as the leader Americans chose — with the understanding being that his end of the bargain should be working with all those who did not vote for him, remembering always that he can’t just dance with those who brought him, but instead needs to make a concerted effort to include ALL Americans in the hope and change he has promised to deliver.

It’s time to put aside the automatic and passionate opposition many of us had to this man — and honor his historic achievement with the respect it deserves, while also maintaining from the outset that Obama will get no free ride and must every day prove he is worthy of the highest office in the land (the same demand Americans have made of the 43 men who held that office before him).

A new administration means a new chance for bipartisan cooperation and solutions to problems like oil dependence, outsourceable jobs, and healthcare. We can’t afford to waste this new chance in 2009 by clinging to the would of, could of, should of mentality of primaries and elections lost. Our chosen candidates didn’t win – instead Obama did.

Now that this has sunk in, we need to find ways to work with him, and he needs to find ways to work with all of us, because the stakes are just too high for us all to do otherwise.

Mountainsong.

You bring up an intereting point which is one i had with a friend of mine. If you or i where on the brink of bankruptcy who is going to bail you are i out.
No one that is right no one. So why did we do this. The best part is Pelosi and others told us it was necessary in order to save our economy. Well did it do anything other than taking more money out of my and your pockets to give to someone else.
This shit needs to stop but when will amricans realize if a congressman or woman has been there more than 2 or 3 terms chances are they are serving for themselves and not us. I still cant figure out why congress and senators dont have term limits.

Thanks Shasta. Now if I can find the food network???

mountainsong
First, any attempt to impose sharia law would have to get through congress. Line one. Then past the supreme court. line two. Then it would have to be enforced. line three.
Then you would have to deal with state rights line four
Then you would have to get the American people to willingly obey it. line five.
Pick a line you want to stand on.

goandersen Thank you. I’m not the only one who sees what has truly happened.

mountainsong 11.07.08 at 12:18 am

We need more than claws.
Economic warfare is being waged agasinst us. We were just conned and badgered into giving up 700 billion dollars we don’t have. and WHERE did it all go? Does anyonee see the economy or their standard of living improving?
Thosw WIYH money and/or power are lining their pockets and making sure we don’t have ANY. Making sure we are too concerned with survival to rebel in any meanful way.
While we sit here babbling about alot of meaningless, superficial psychobabble, we are being enslaved.
Question to the group~~~
IF the governemtnt/Obama did want to impose Sharia and Islamic Law on america, let me hear some suggestions as to how we might RESIST!!!

Wake up people! Or is it better to be in a state of unconscious when the gates slam shut on the last vestiges of what we know as FREEDOM?
________________________________________________

May I respectfully ask, what are your suggestions?

one more time:
Goofs, did Mr Goofs ever come up with a name for his show?

mountainsong

You are welcome.

snowtiger007 11.07.08 at 12:27 am OMG!!! Please do not be so naive!!! Congress is a puppet at best and a joke at worst. The supreme court is bought and paid for. They pick and choose what they will hear. Enforecment is a snap. People are already terrified just of the idea of Martial Law, and I doubt there is much will for armed resistance.
States’ Rights? WTF are they? And when is the last time they carried any weight?
WAKE UP!!!!!

Mountainsong

A better question would be how do we wake up the uninformed so that we can protect ourselves. We have to act with many. We need to contact many different groups and form alliances to spread the information.

RE: Sharia and Islamic law – Get to the organized religions, they will not want to give up their congregations. We are different than England in the way we have numerous religious groups. Catholics, Mormans, Baptists, Southern Baptists, New Faith Christians, Wiccans, etc. They will rebel against this… That’s one suggestion.

Give me a few minutes to ponder more directions…

mountainsong “We were just conned and badgered into giving up 700 billion dollars we don’t have. and WHERE did it all go? Does anyonee see the economy or their standard of living improving?”
__________________________________
I heard last night in regards to the money and why we are not seeing any improvement is because the institutions are not loaing with it. NO ONE is there to oversee that these banks do with it what was intended. Yet now Pelosi wants to cut another stimulus check before Christmas.

mountainsong
Whether or not the congress the supreme court or states rights have the capacity to stop an attempt at what your suggesting isnt the point.
The point is they will have to follow the steps or risk total anarchy.
Now which line do you think we draw our line st?

mountainsong
I think about it all the time.

DanceWithPumas

Not yet… I sent an email to Murphy to see if she wanted to have some say in the show format and topics also.

It’s open if anyone wants to throw out suggestions….

snowtiger007 11.07.08 at 12:34 am
mountainsong
Whether or not the congress the supreme court or states rights have the capacity to stop an attempt at what your suggesting isnt the point.
The point is they will have to follow the steps or risk total anarchy.
Now which line do you think we draw our line st?
—————-
Have you forgotten about all the executive power Bush has left behind?

This woman in Burbank contacted me about doing a live radio show,
Are there any PUMAS (murphy) who might like to take part?

Every Way Woman Productions
Production Office 818-845-4673
http://www.everywaywoman.com
http://www.myspace.com/everywaywoman
http://www.youtube.com/everywaywoman

mountainsong 11.07.08 at 12:34 am

You have tapped into my paranoid state of mind….I have been trying not to think of all of this. I am seeing things that remind me of Hitler in Nazi Germany during WWII and people it is scary. All the historians that HAVE a mind know what I am talking about and see what is going on…so why doesn’t anyone else…oh I know! It’s because they think History is boring!

225 SouthJerseyPUMA

Obama Win Causes Obsessive Supporters To Realize How Empty Their Lives Are

http://www.theonion.com/content/video/obama_win_causes_obsessive?utm_source=embedded_video

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Thank you! Life is fun again!

Good night all…. i have just been here reading.. You guys are the greatest as usual!!!..

mountainsong “We were just conned and badgered into giving up 700 billion dollars
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“WE” were not conned or badgered……”WE” had NO say so in it. “WE” were phone calling, screaming, writing, emailing, and faxing to any one and everyone that would listen to us NOT to do it. “WE” don’t seem to have much say about anything. 18 Million voters voices were silenced in the primaries. NO ONE cared what “WE” thought about the bailout.

So once again I respectfully ask you, What are your suggestions?

This was posted at Clinton Democrats….
If your feelin obliged to congradulate Obama
on his newly found fame…

Tell Obama how you feel about his election!
Posted on November 5th, 2008 by katia

If you go to Hillary’s website http://www.hillaryclinton.com she has a link to a form where you can send congratulations to Obama on his election. But I used the form to say that he fooled the uninformed masses, but we will work to make sure he is a one term President by starting to work of Hillary’s 2012 campaign now!

So everyone on here should write a message for how you feel about Obama winning, on Hillary’s site.

snowtiger007 11.07.08 at 12:34 am

I’m sorry, but are you braindead? Have you not witnessed first hand the futility we all met in trying to expose truth about Obama and stop him? Do you think, if He/they decide to impose Martial Law that they are going to ask permission from Congress and the Supreme Court First?
They don’t have to follow ANY steps. They will be making their own.
Our systewm is broken. Freedom and Democracy are DEAD!!!
Once the economy totally collapses, which it is doing while we sit helplessly watching, the logically reaction is anarchy. But do you think for one moment they do not know this and have not already planned for it?
A clue~~~
Did you know that FEMA is a branch of the United Nations? That all law enforcement came together in the early 90’s, maybe before, under the Multi-jurisdictional Task Force, which effectively dispensed with ‘jurisdiction’ and place ALL law enforcement agencies under the auspices of FEMA???
Our government plans it’s wars 20 years in advance. Do you not think this is all going according to plan?
Do you not realize that, now with Obama, if Israel attacks Iran, the United States will follow orders of the United Nations and support an attack on Israel?Are you THAT not paying attention to what is going on in this world?
There are too many people in the world to even feed. Controlling them is a contingency that has been planned for.
Oh, Jesus Christ!!!

382 airforcehusker

I’m with you!

Snowtiger007

Understood but what was bobo talking about when he wanted “civilian forces”? Could he have already been thinking of a way to overcome? Now, I’m gonna have nightmares!

GUESS WHAT LOTTERY NUMBER CAME OUT TODAY????

The first day as President-elect Obama,

11/5/08, the Illinois State Lottery

number came out:

http://www. illinoislottery. com/subsections/History/Win2008. txt

(666)

I rmeebr whenthis type of concern was rampant under Clnton. When the first gun ba ever was placed inot law.
A that time in Ca. we had about 250 thousand legally owned “assault weapons”. They weren’t assault weapons but I won’t getinto that.
In the first 6 months of the gun ban one criminal org smuggled in and sold over 500k such firearms.
Now where do you think those guns are?
I remember the talk all around the ranges.
Much like what we are seing here. The american people ARE not pushovers.

Good night all. I am getting off of shift and heading home. Nice talking to all of you and take care.

night husker

jallen0347
Suggest reposting your Prowl in the Action! Forum:
http://pumapac.org/forums/action/
for the morning Pumas

goofsmom
I clawed you? Sorry didnt realize. ((((goofsmom)))

tennaseepuma 11.07.08 at 12:38 am

EXACTLY!!! Thank you.
So we are the most heavily armed population on the face of the earth!!! We still have to eat. We still need bullet. We still need communications and transportation.

As tewnnessee just pointed out:
“We all know what life was like in this Nazi socialist state. Citizens immediately lost the right to bear arms; thought crimes were punished with imprisonment and death; children were indoctrinated into giving their allegiance to the state, not the family; the government dictated the way in which people could live their day-to-day lives; and people who appeared to be outliers to the harmony of the conscienceless government entity (gays, mentally ill-people, physically handicapped people, Jews, gypsies) were dehumanized and eventually slaughtered.”
Does this resonate with any familiarity concerning BO’s plans, people?
THIS all is what has me so depressed!!!

Good night all

America is not the land of the free any more everthing the government put in place is coming together if we stick our head in the ground and say no way we are blind, obama has a plan to police the internet,he has a plan to police the schools,he has a plan to police all of us………some will fight and many will die……….just a tin hat theory? Bush gave the presidency power over everything and everyone if martial law is declared.
they can starve any part of america they want,just like they already do in other parts of the world to keep populations under control. Why with all the technology in the world are hundreds of thousands of people starving to death?Why did 54,00 babies suffer in china?

Good night, ANDERSON!

ON THE BUMPER OF MY SUV

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayQv9h7qVeY

273 airforcehusker
airforcehusker 11.06.08 at 11:50 pm

Has anyone noticed on other message boards, such as espn, college football, politico, townhall, usatoday etc. that all the obomabots that were so prevelant on those boards are basically gone now.
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Did you see any of the news items about how the poor Obots are getting stiffed on their last paycheck?
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2008/11/obama_campaign_workers_angry_o.html

Mountainsong

Try to fight the depression… You are not alone and you are not overreacting about these things… In a perfect world we wouldn’t have to think about subjects like this. The world is topsy turvy and has been since 9/11. People are trying to believe that everything is back to normal after that day… it’s not and it won’t ever be…

Maybe we are over reacting…and this is what they WANT us to do…think about it….I dunno all I know is that I kind of want to be back at home with my family…

Done

DancesWithPumas 11.07.08 at 12:48 am

jallen0347
Suggest reposting your Prowl in the Action! Forum:
http://pumapac.org/forums/action/
for the morning Pumas

Okay I have to get up early so I need to turn in. Good night PUMAs. MakowashiNatsuko, please do not get upset about all of this. I have a lot of faith, I refuse to allow fear to overcome my life.

mountainsong
No dear. I dont think you made it up. However this type of info, like the FEMA concentration camps has a life of its own.
I remember Jimmy carter had an executive order in place to bring all the food water guns and police forces under direct control of the executive branch.
So I know the orders exist.

makowashi

We have debates and very strong opinions sometimes, please do not be upset… (((Makowashi)))

snowtiger007 11.07.08 at 12:55 am

I have been observing and watching this all unfold, and studying it for 20 years. Do you think I care if you agree with me?
One bit of advice~~~I’d be thinking real serious about getting out of the city you are in, or at least establishing an escape route because there is no way you can survive in any major cioty. They can all be shut down in and under total containment in less than 24 hours.

November 06, 2008
Obama campaign workers angry over unpaid wages
Ralph Alter
Oops! It looks like expectations are already being dashed by the president-elect. According to WTHR TV in Indianapolis:

Lines were long and tempers flared Wednesday not to vote but to get paid for canvassing for Barack Obama. Several hundred people are still waiting to get their pay for last-minute campaigning. Police were called to the Obama campaign office on North Meridian Street downtown to control the crowd.

The line was long and the crowd was angry at times.

“I want my money today! It’s my money. I want it right now!” yelled one former campaign worker.

A former spokesman for the Obama campaign said 375 people were hired as part of the Vote Corps program and said people signed up to work three-hour shifts at a time. Three hours of canvassing got workers a $30 pre-paid Visa card.
_______________________________________________

OOOOPs seems redistribution has already begun. Call Joe the Plumber maybe he can help. Good nite PUMAs

goofsmom 11.07.08 at 1:02 am

I’ll try not to. But it is hard…I haven’t seen my mother or any of my family for four months….and I really miss them. Which might play a part in me being upset…

(((mountainsong)))

Truce… Deep breath… remember we care about you and you can’t be getting so wound up… we can’t make any plans if you are in puma attack mode…

oops, sorry. I meant ‘goofsmom’

Makowashi

How many more months must you be away?

#290 GBPuma
Here is a thought for an all out PUMA protest on Jan. 20th “if” the One is sworn in as PTUS:
for all Pumas across the country to hang out the US Flag upside down and at half mast.
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Brilliant. I don’t personally own a flag yet but I am going to do as you suggest. And send myself an email so I will remember.

Is this the kind of suggestion that goes into the PUMA forum?
http://pumapac.org/forums/action/

goofsmom 11.07.08 at 1:09 am

Oh, Hon, I am not in any attack mode whatsoever. I have been in a depressive mood over all this. But I always have Michael with me.
And now it’s time for my prayer and meditation hour before bed.
Goodnight everyone and thank you for the kind words from earlier today.
I do love you all.

Hey Murphy, my friend is trying to register and it’s all messed up. I think this person picked up a name that is already in use, Jew4Hillary. Now, he can’t re-register with a different name but same email account.

mountainsong 11.07.08 at 1:12 am

Oyasumi try to get some rest.

Hey clintondemocrat

TennaseePuma-whats up.

Did you get my note earlier that we now live in the most conservative state in the nation and we are more conservative than we were after the Civil War. Wahhoooo TNGOP.

It will even be redder and crazier under Bill Frist as governor in 2010 because i bet that what is going to happen

Makowashi,

Well, it’s not to long now. Do you have a calendar you can cross the days off till you leave. Or maybe make a countdown calendar of your own till you get to go home.

That way as you rip off each day it’s one closer to being home.

goofsmom

I left my calender at home. But thanks for the idea I just have to keep the faith that I will be home soon.

Goodnight all. Sleep well. We are the good guys in all this.

#290 GBPuma
Here is a thought for an all out PUMA protest on Jan. 20th “if” the One is sworn in as PTUS:
for all Pumas across the country to hang out the US Flag upside down and at half mast.
==============================================
MY FLAG IS ALREADY UPSIDE DOWN IN MY FRONT WINDOW~

BUT WILL DO THE OUT SIDE ONE 1/20 ~

(((snowtiger007)))

sleep well

ineffective not infective

snowtiger007 11.07.08 at 1:26 am

Oyasumi, sleep well.

goofsmom 11.07.08 at 1:32 am

I do like cats. I want to get another cat but my mom won’t let me get one…since she would have to take care of it while I am in college.

goofsmom 11.07.08 at 1:35 am

Yes, it is. I want to get a black cat and name it Tora. Tora means tiger in Japanese.

FUCK Hillbuzz…that is EXACTLY the type of revisionist history I was speaking about and the type of DOUBLE talk that makes me so sick I actually threw up after reading it….

HE WON BECAUSE IGNORANCE WON. HE WON BECAUSE MISOGYNY WON. HE WON BECAUSE OF MONEY.

Supporting him isn’t going to help us you FOOLS…unless being a slave and having to say yes sir and no sir to whatever TRUTH they put out there is your idea of a life.

I am pissed as hell about that post, and I am going to email murphy about it in the morning. At this point, I am pissed as hell and I’m not going to take it anymore…

FUCK YOU ALL if you think playing nice with satan is a good thing…

Makowashi,

That is a beautiful name for a cat. My cat sad to say is really named Goof. When he was a kitten, he would get himself stuck in some silly places and I called him a little goof. He liked the name and responded to it, so that became his name..

jenniforhillary

We knew this would happen, that people would give up fighting, and falling in line. I am sorry that it upset you so much. It’s like losing a friend. Alot of people are not strong like you and it is easier to just give in.

(((jenniforhillary)))

SouthjerseyPuma

I think Hillbuzz is a website.

Oh, sorry. Most of them have signed off now.

Yes, a cat is a small tiger.

goofsmom 11.07.08 at 1:55 am

Oyasumi and thank you so much. I’m glad that I have you guys out there to help me. We are not alone we must stay together.

And to all the other rurouni PUMA’s out there I must say jya ne and oyasumi myself. I need to get some sleep I have a French test tomorrow and I think rest would be the best thing for me right now.

so until tomorrow oyasumi to all and remember us Rurouni/ronin PUMA’s have to stick together! Jya ne!

Whew. Pumas are getting worked up.

Here’s a poem I meant to post the other night, by one of my favorite poets…it’s like it was written for now:

http://www.margepiercy.com/sampling/The_Low_Road.htm

The Low Road

What can they do
to you? Whatever they want.
They can set you up, they can
bust you, they can break
your fingers, they can
burn your brain with electricity,
blur you with drugs till you
can t walk, can’t remember, they can
take your child, wall up
your lover. They can do anything
you can’t blame them
from doing. How can you stop
them? Alone, you can fight,
you can refuse, you can
take what revenge you can
but they roll over you.

But two people fighting
back to back can cut through
a mob, a snake-dancing file
can break a cordon, an army
can meet an army.

Two people can keep each other
sane, can give support, conviction,
love, massage, hope, sex.
Three people are a delegation,
a committee, a wedge. With four
you can play bridge and start
an organisation. With six
you can rent a whole house,
eat pie for dinner with no
seconds, and hold a fund raising party.
A dozen make a demonstration.
A hundred fill a hall.
A thousand have solidarity and your own newsletter;
ten thousand, power and your own paper;
a hundred thousand, your own media;
ten million, your own country.

It goes on one at a time,
it starts when you care
to act, it starts when you do
it again after they said no,
it starts when you say We
and know who you mean, and each
day you mean one more.

–Marge Piercy
Copyright 2006

NC state teacher telling a girl whose parents support McCain, that her dad will be in Iraq for 100 years! (After an introduction in a foreign language, the actual incident of the teacher and students is in English.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDEAYgm0Dv8

Here is the contact information for the Superintendent of Schools in NC.

Contact Information:
Office of the State Superintendent
NC Education Building
6301 Mail Service Center
Raleigh, NC 27699-6301
919.807.3430
jatkinson@dpi.state.nc.us

HiHat,

It’s alright most of the professors know what they are talking about. BUT some of them like my American History professor is over LIBERAL who has drank the kool-aid who I think would much rather not deal with a free thinker like myself. Who questions EVERYTHING.

Besides him the others are pretty understanding.

You’re welcome. And now I must get on to bed…I still need to take contacts out and all that fun stuff before turning in. I also have a meeting with a group for a powerpoint presentation….the joys…

HiHat,

Thank you, I hope I do ace it!

Good night to all my fellow Rurouni/Ronin Puma’s!

you guys are NOT gonna believe this !!!!!
(if you haven’t already seen it)

a teacher in NC browbeats a child for supporting McCain!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDEAYgm0Dv8&eurl=http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/

we have to make this viral and get this horrible woman fired!
she has no business working with children!
this is utterly and undeniably DISGUSTING!

im falling apart yall

Ario…

Are the obotrons like the ones in this video?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3_95F5e-Ac

mzebest,
i’m listening to it right now… boy this guy is pissed
he sounds like me when i get into a heated discussion with hubby.
the absurdity of BO is almost too big for words

jenniferforHillary,
i’m with you girl. i can go about my life and continue to live positively but I do not ever have to support or believe in the Unholy Douchebag.

My day to day life will not be affected by the scumbag. But I don’t see how anyone can simply swallow their principles and be accepting of the SEXISM and RACE BAITING that was never condemned by this A@@hole!, With all his money, he never got on national TV and publicly condemn violence (the attack of the woman in NY) …the violent language (death threats to people like Tavis Smiley, Diane Watson, etc etc etc) …backstabbing Bill Clinton (accusations of racism) …SEXISM (endless examples).

Anyone who compromises their principles and gets behind a man who did not have the fortitude and honor to get on national tv and tell his supporters these actions and this behavior is UNACCEPTABLE, UNCIVILIZED, UNDEMOCRATIC and UNAMERICAN is simply a weak person. You can’t blame people for being what they are. You must be a Capricorn! lol We are pretty darn strong! I’m pretty stubborn when it comes to principles, but that’s just part of my character. Not everyone is so adamant.

We all stand on our own principles.

That being said, I can admire the principles of some, such as yourself Jennifer while I cannot admire principles (or lack thereof) of others.

you guys, please don’t let BO affect your happiness.
pleeeease, if you possibly can, find a silver lining. if this means otherwise angry black folks here in nyc are going to be a bit nicer to me when they’re ringing me up at the cash register, then well… thank you God. Cause lord knows i’ve had more than my fair share of negative interactions with people carrying the proverbial chip on the shoulder at directing it unsuspecting shoppers.
But, that being said, even if I can extract something positive from all this and try really hard to consider the perspectives of those who, misguided thought they are, believe this election = equality…. this does not mean I am going to give the Idiot one free pass. I cannot foresee myself ever genuinely, truly or even remotely having any respect or admiration for this Lying Two-Faced Chicago Thug. NEVER.
That’s my two cents to anyone still around.
Now I go to sleepy. I tired.
xo patriotic PUMAS!

Something

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwKTXyF_6B8

We can start as an idea for a song and end up as a symphony.

Of we can Gently Weep:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FC1EZcrZEIs

axel you are nuts. The planes took down the buildings and there is so much proof that you should be ashamed to even post such nonsense.

Go back to mama’s basement and live there with your fellow conspirators.

We are here to talk about a real conspiracy to take over the U.S., not to debate with a lot of idiots who think the earth is flat.

Libby, I would not call you an idiot, but I’d presume that you might have problems comprehension.

Ario, I almost cried at your story.
I wonder what our fore fathers felt like. When they were the only ones who believed we should be a country. And they had to meet in secret

Murphy, if you catch this pleas email me – I’m having trouble with this site
Thanks

Yesterday we heard a full brigade of troops will be leaving Iraq because they are no longer needed. An answer to our prayers, yes. John McCain is partly responsible for that success for pushing the surge forward. I’m sad that we couldn’t have John McCain as President.
The media has confessed to total bias and are now shamelessly and trying to destroy a great woman. I’m sad we couldn’t have Sarah Palin as VP. I’m ignoring the tv as much as possible, have no newspaper (cancelled it), and worry constantly. Need real HOPE back fast!

#517 Sly
I agree. I’m watching FOX now, but gotta go to work. I can read but not post at work, so bbl.

Its sick how the media continues to try and destroy Sarah Palin. Leave her alone. Let her govern Alaska in peace.

Did you know she sent this dispatch to the family of a fallen soldier last Monday from the campaign trail?
Oh, did you miss it? It was on all the news. /sarc

IMMEDIATE RELEASE No. 08-175

Governor Palin Mourns the Loss of Fort Wainwright Soldier

October 27, 2008, Anchorage, Alaska – Governor Sarah Palin today expressed her condolences to the family and friends of Private First Class Cody J. Eggleston, who died at the National Naval Medical Center in Bethesda, Maryland, on October 24. Eggleston died of injuries sustained in Baquaba, Iraq, from indirect fire.

Eggleston, 21, of Eugene, Oregon, was assigned to C Company, 1st Battalion, 5th Infantry Regiment, 25th Infantry Division, Fort Wainwright, Alaska. Eggleston is survived by his wife, Karie, and stepdaughter, Raegen, of North Carolina.

“PFC Eggleston’s dedication and service to his country will never be forgotten,” Governor Palin said. “He is a hero who loyally served his country with honor. Todd and I offer our thoughts and prayers to Cody’s family during this difficult time.”

A state flag, along with a letter of condolence, will be sent to his family.

###

Good Morning PUMA world and a glorious world it is!

GOOD MORNING PUMAs!! Good Morning MAMA PUMA

Hi. I’m new.

Good Morning Pumas,

Murphy – I have changed my email address (Obot tracking on)
where do we send our new email addys for prowls, etc.

Also I had to totally wipe my computer and reinstall programs etc after saving my files on CD. I had a major Obot infection that took over my computer last Sunday. Guess someone didn’t like my emails.

Good Morning RedRich,

Welcome to our Puma family.

Drudge Report

Protect the Private Ballot Process – I provided you the link:

http://www.capitolconnect.com/wfi/privateballot/default.aspx?utm_campaign=WFI_Launch&utm_source=Specific_Media&utm_medium=display&utm_content=privateballot&utm_term=pb302b

Good morning pumas!!

I am glad it is Friday. I have not watched the news since Tuesday evening. I don’t miss it at all.
My step-mom called me last night. She wanted to know how I feel the outcome of the election. It all came pouring out. I went on a 15 minute rant, when I was done she asked me if I felt this way because he was black? WTF? I just said mom get a clue, do some research and QUIT watching the news. The info is out there. People are so blinded by the thought of change and making Bush pay, they have not thought about the outcome of having BO in office. Desperate people, do desperate things. That is how I feel about this election.
I kinda feel like in some really bad “B” horror flick.

RedRich 11.07.08 at 7:28 am
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Good morning Red and welcome!!!
Jump right in.

GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD Morning, PUMA NATION!

Welcome, RedRich.

Apologies is Michele Malkin’s excellent observations on Sarah Palin’s mistreatment has already been posted. It is spot on:

http://townhall.com/columnists/MichelleMalkin/2008/11/07/the_cowardly_character_assassination_of_sarah_palin

-as to my comment above about the elector being “openely”Muslim, it’s not the Muslim part that is so irritating–its the very fact that SOME of these ELECTORS who vote carries MORE weight than others–are Immigrants and not NATURAL -BORN AMERCIANS. This should be a requirenment for an elector–to be a NATURAL citizen.
Also, if we are searching for issues to work on– campaign finance reform and term limits for Senators would be good ones. After all, the President is limited- (until ohonewhohateswomen changes it!)- so why not limit Senators, too? It would cut down on the corruption if they knew they could only be there for a while and not make it a life-time career!

everyone welcome and good morning!! Have a wonderful day!!

SouthernGAL68 11.07.08 at 7:54 am

CJ – like myself … Post tramatic syndrome hu? Can not bare to watch … like a train wreck!
…………..
hurts like hell

I posted the latest news, sure I didn’t get everything, but it’s a start.

http://pumapac.org/forums/breaking-news/

Z:lol:

Here’s hoping everyone has a good day… I have to go to work really early – 10 hour day!! See ya later!

November 06, 2008
Time for McCain to Step Up to the Plate Again
Clarice Feldman
We supported John McCain and hisrunning mate,Sarah Palin, and are sorely disappointed at the cattiness toward Sarah by McCain’s staff that’s making its way to the press.There’s only one way to end this and protect the reputation of the person who brought so much to the ticket:McCain must definitively and decisively publicly contradict these reports and do it now!
http://www.americanthinker.com/

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Maybe we should do a prowl to McCain and let him know he needs to make a public announcement and end these comments. Or maybe I will have to ask for my contribution money to be returned.

I’m learning that Obama is bringing in the Governator, and Kerry…could we be ALL wrong is he going to work for ALL the people……. old saying: “keep your friends close and your enemies closer…”
so who is saying this now……Obama? or our American politicians?

no1what – i read that McCain had a FIT when an announcer called Obama by his full name! That is ironic

SouthernGAL
I can’t express myself most of the time…I can only see an overall “feeling”: if that makes sense and it isn’t good at all.
Then sometimes I feel that maybe just maybe could he do good …(don’t all jump on me please) or perhaps it’s me brain that wants to shut off the pain.
I still find it diffficult to believe that our CIA FBI has allow this man to bypass our Constitution whereas one cannot aid or comfort our enemies….so far he hasn’t..he’s been an observant…..
I sure you all can see how paradoxial my mind set is.

cj – that is so weird that you said that because that is exactly my feelings! I have this BAD GUT feeling that i can not explain. It is a feeling like … I know what I know!

I have asked everyone … how in the hell does he get pass security???????

cj – i think it is because he swears to people that he is christian … not muslim

SoutherGAL like you said……… and me too…I hope we are all wrong and he becomes the best person ever to run our country and make it right………. and I pray too

RedRich,
Nice post. Still hoping Murphy comes up for a way for us to communicate physically……online too but we need for us to be able to trust one another face to face to speak openly.
I’ve made a suggestion and many others have so I impatiently wait on Murphy.
Of course one never knows who will inflitrate a meeting but we’ll figure it out…

Well so you know me better…….. I am a Democrat…
yet always have voted for for whomever I feel is the best person.
Now, with the potential disater of a New Party emerging from the depths of evil……….. I’m for me…and you.

bye SouthernGAL… I guess everyone left for it’s just the 3 of us………

looks like it

RedRich 11.07.08 at 8:20 am

Nice post. I have to say I agree with you. .

CJ 11.07.08 at 8:26 am
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I brought that up to Murphy in an email. She said that we can contact the puma for our area and have send a request asking if other pumas would like to meet. I know I would like to meet other pumas in my area.

*If ther are any pumas in CT or close by maybe we can find time to meet.*

ontherocks

I suggested to Murphy http://www.meetup.com if she can figure that this would be good for us it can be created in all states…

Zee #513

my thoughts are your conspiracy theories don’t belong here, not even in the new tinfoil forum. Please, no 9/11 nuttery here.
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Zee, I can’t get it: first Libby, than you – what is with your comprehension abilities? I don’t have any conspiracy theory about 9/11, PHILIP J. BERG HAS IT. I was trying to warn you about his credibility.

Following sentence was written in the infamous RICO lawsuit against Bush that he filed:

Quote: ”THE WTC TWIN TOWERS, AS WELL AS WTC BUILDING #7, WERE DESTROYED BY CONTROLLED DEMOLITION, AS CLEARLY PROVEN BY THE LAWS OF PHYSICS; THIS DEMOLITION COULD ONLY HAVE BEEN AN “INSIDE JOB.”

http://www.911forthetruth.com/pages/RodriguezComplaint.htm

Again, I totally disagree with this accusation.

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I’m also warning you about Andy Martin’s (another anti-Obama “hope”) credibility
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Wikipedia‘s quote: “His 1996 run for the Florida State Senate came unraveled when it was revealed that he’d named his campaign committee for his 1986 congressional run “The Anthony R. Martin-Trigona Congressional Campaign to Exterminate Jew Power in America.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Martin_%28U.S._politician%29

Axel I must say I agree that Berg and Martin are a little off.

Good morning all,

Like many of you I’m not watching the news. I did this a few years ago also and found out things still happened, or didn’t, whether I knew or watched or not! But I was at peace. And I’m still waking up every morning thinking it was a nitemare I had, only to realize we are living the nitemare scenario right now.

However, the local paper is still thrown on my porch and this tidbit from the Columbus Dispatch this morning:

“OHIO TURNOUT LOWER THAN IN 2004″

Now, isn’t that interesting? I thought all the Walmart women all over Ohio would turn out for Sarah, but I guess they didn’t, probably depressed from watching how inevitable Obama’s victory was?

As for the continued attacks on Sarah, I think that just shows you how afraid the far-left in this country still is of her. It would be difficult for her to make a serious run in 2012 from Alaska, but if she were in the senate that would help tremendously. Therefore they want to not just bury her but dismember and scatter her body parts like they would a vampire!

Oh, one other random thought, I use Yahoo business email so must sign on to Yahoo mainpage first, and can’t avoid their gushy headlines. Funny I didn’t see a thing about the stock market tanking two days in a row…would have been the main headline just a few days ago…but nooooo, there is no media bias…like heck there isn’t!

Saw this on gretawire
http://patriotroom.com/?p=4002

The stealing of the presidency by that thug and his cronies IS NOT the end of the Pumas, but the beginning. I don’t know about the rest of you, but I have been mostly asleep, politically speaking, for most of my life. Aside from voting, straight Democrat until this year, although I’ve always been registered as an independent, I have run screaming from anything that smacked of politics. Now, I have been galvanized by the evil that has crept over my country and threatens to swallow it whole. I have a deep, driving need to ACT. I may not be focused on any particular action at this moment, but I’m intelligent and educated and SEVERELY PISSED, and with the help of all the other Pumas, I can figure it out. WE can figure it out. Venting on this and other websites has its purpose, but it is no longer enough. It’s time we organized on a real life level, as in face-to-face. We need a central location, a headquarters, if you will, and we need centers in each state. We need to recruit on a massive scale. We need to figure out ways to strike back at anyone and anything that collaborated with that fraud. We need to devise plans for taking our country back and then implement them. I know, big talk, but damn it, I’m willing to act on it. Who else feels this way?

I am gradually reintroducing myself to shows that are entertaining. I refuse to listen to the MSM networks. I find I don’t even want to watch Hannity and Colmes or Bill O’Reiley anymore. That is major for me to give them up.

I was fooled by the Clintons but they are going where the money is
rockafellas, the big corps. the people who run this country and want total control. They want to be on the winning side with the most wealth as possible. I’m sorry but power corrupts and money ruins people. Integrity out the window. That’s just a fact of life accept it and move on.

GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD MORNING, SUNSHINE!!

Great to see you, Mama!

#591Griffin and #592Woodie: As I said..in my post VIGILANCE through knowledge and ACTION INITITATED BY THIS PAC AND IN COOPERATION WITH ANY AND EVERY GROUP THAT INTENDS NOT TO SUBMIT TO THE CONTINUTAION OF THE USURPATION OF OUR RIGHTS AND THE VERY BASIS OF STRUCTURE UPON WHICH THIS COUNTRY IS BUILT AND IS NOW IN VERY GRAVE DANGER.

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If you want to look at character, McCains speech the night was great.
It really was very good and he held his own for sure….

One of 18million cracks: Precisely the attitude that the FRAUD and his cohorts will love to hear. If that is truly how you feel, then they have won. I do not and will not accept that nothing will ever change. It is the essence of being human on this earth that everything changes…Look at the horrific change that the FRAUD has brought. ..and seeks to bring…NO…We would never have had a country if the Americans of the 18th century thought that. NO.
The people of Poland would not have been free if after years and years, they felt that. NO. I hope in time you change your mind regarding this. I do not accept the conclusion based on life experience personally and culturally in history.
NO. On this you are wrong.

Axel, why didn’t you just say so?

Why are you posting links to 9/11 sites? For all I knew, you were praising Berg for defending that.

Heaven knows when I warned people here not to read or use Corsi as a source, I didn’t link to all his conspiracy nuttery! I didn’t beat about the bush. I just said don’t trust Corsi because he invented that fake “amero” scare story when trying to sell a theory that the dollar was going to be replaced by a multinational currency.

You posted a link to a 9/11 nut theory and asked what we thought. It was not clear whether you were disparaging or praising Berg.

NewOrleansPuma….that’s all very well and good but I think that is what we have been doing for the past 2 yrs. Look at Obama, you have to use Fire with Fire. Obama was the rat and McCain was the gentlemen and the one with character to spare. Where did it get him and where has it got us. Nowhere. The same can be said of Iraq, Aphganistan. They have a different philosophy of life totally from us. What we hold near and dear they do not. They couldn’t give a damn about democracy but we think this is what is good for them. You see what I am trying to say?

If you are going to beat these people you are going to have to come down to their level or outsmart them in some way that may work or else they will get the best of you. Even though Obama, he thinks he has won he will pay the price for being dishonorable, untruthful, and evil. This man has no scruples, he would put his mother under the bus, if he thought it would get him to where he wanted to be.

he invented that fake “amero” scare story when trying to sell a theory that the dollar was going to be replaced by a multinational currency.

Bush, i heard, is supposed to have a meeting on November 16th with NATO about that very subject. If it happens, I will start to believe. Lets wait and see….

Grizzly 11.06.08 at 10:23 pm
An alligator’s brain is the size of a walnut (which is strangely equivalent of that of an Obama supporter).

Yes, but the Alligator uses a higher percentage of of its brain power potential.

Hi friends. Sorry if this is the wrong place to post and excuse my absence. Been busy reading books(!), namely, “The true story of the Bilderberg Group” by Daniel Estulin, copyright 2007, TrineDay publishers. Also about Tri-Lats and Council on Foreign Relations.
Is a good review of the cabal of snot-nosed elites who think they have a right to rule my life, your life and everyone else’s life in the USA and the world.
Dan’s book includes a discussion of the mass media’s use of brainwashing techniques which comes from the Tavistock Institute in England AND the Rand Corp. here in the States and other orgs/agencies.
The traitor-media can’t fuck us up if we are not tuning into their lies, their shows.Keep those idiot-boxes off. Avoid brain drain.
More later.
Take care

Woodie: You know, I’ve only heard Obama’s voice once or twice. I instinctively recoiled from him from the first time I saw him. He set off a deep-seated dislike and distrust in me immediately, so I went looking to find out as much about him as I could. What I found horrified me, but I also knew that millions of foolish Americans would fling themselves at him in mindless adoration. As for me, I can’t stand the sound of his voice or his face. I stopped watching the news months ago and stopped reading the news a few weeks before the election. I have deleted all news sites from my computer. I don’t care what anyone in the mainstream media is saying. I don’t care what other countries are saying. Democracy is dead and the office of the president is a fraud. Now, I just want to band together with like-minded Americans and figure out a way to fight this.

one more thing and then i’ll shut up. How do I know they ripped us off?. After they supposedly voted for the $700 billion bailout. One of the companies who benefited from the bailout received $128 million dollars and they turned around and went on a spree in california to celebrate with our money and racked up a bill for $400,000.00 in some hotel here in California. Have those people been dealt with. Disciplined for misconduct. Using public funds, sent to jail no. Why, because it was a setup from the get go….