Anyone who tries to claim with a straight face that the national media is not actually manipulating the news in Obama’s favor has LOST THEIR MIND.
This evening, several of our Puma PAC members accidentally received an email from Erin Davisson, an anchor at WFRV-TV in Green Bay. She was responding to an email they had sent her alerting her to Obama’s alarming remarks about coal companies going bankrupt if they attempt to build more power plants under the cap-and-trade regulations Obama said he intends to put in place.
These Puma PAC members, regular citizens, were hoping to draw the media’s attention to a story they believed was important to the voters and should be covered on the eve of an election. And they were pleased when they soon received a reply to their emails.
Problem is, Erin Davisson never meant to send the email to Puma PAC members! Oh no, she noticed that our members’ emails were also sent to several other news organizations and so she wanted to put a stop to the “sad attempt by McCain and Palin to use fear tactics to draw voters.” So she responded to the email from several Puma PAC members by hitting “Reply All” and sending her obama Talking Points to all her media pals.
And us.
OOPS!
From: Davisson, Erin
Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 7:56 PM
To: ‘C’; @WFRV-TV WEB TIPS; newsdesk@cbs58.com; news@wkowtv.com;
azobel@wkowtv.com; shurguy@wxow.com; news8@wkbt.com; news@waow.com; news@wqow.com
Subject: RE: Urgent videos. Obama willing to bankrupt coal indutry; backs govt.
price ’signals’ on energy to ‘change behavior’The only thing is, it isn’t true
Obama didn’t say he was out to bankrupt coal mines. What he was saying is, that with current emissions standards, coal mine owners would go bankrupt because of the issues of greenhouse emission. He then went on to say that the U.S. operating without coal was “an illusion,” and therefore the best solution is to promote clean coal technology – ways of reducing emissions and allowing coal companies to meet emissions standards and stay in business.
His comments are being taken entirely out of context by choosing one half of a statement and not the other. In other words, they’re turning the truth into a lie. This was never a gaffe. He’s not out to destroy the coal industries. It’s a sad attempt by McCai nand Palin to use fear tactics to draw voters.
What the McCain camp is not giving you from the original tape: Obama: “But this notion of no coal, I think, is an illusion. Because the fact of the matter is is that right now we are getting a lot of our energy from coal. And China is building a coal-powered plant once a week. So what we have to do then is figure out how can we use coal without emitting greenhouse gases and carbon.” Obama Passed An Amendment Supported by Biden To Add $200M For Carbon Capture And Sequestration Technology In Senate’s FY 2008 Budget. Obama was the chief sponsor of an amendment to the 2008 Senate Budget resolution that added $200 million for Function 270 (Energy) for the demonstration and monitoring of carbon capture and sequestration technology by the Department of Energy. [SA 599 to SCR 21, Agreed to by Unanimous Consent,
And you might want to read this, from the American Coalition for Clean Coal Electricity.
http://www.americaspower.org/News/Press-Room/Press-Releases/American-Coalition-for-Clean-Coal-Electricity-Statement-on-Candidate-Support-for-Coal
Thanks for your interest, and remember to vote tomorrow.
“HIS COMMENTS ARE BEING TAKEN ENTIRELY OUT OF CONTEXT.”
Hmm, now where have we heard that before?
Why, just today I heard the Governors of Ohio and West Virginia, both campaigning for Obama, say EXACTLY the SAME THING.
And the OFFICIAL TALKING POINT from the OBAMA CAMPAIGN?
“An Obama spokesperson says the Senator’s comments were taken out of context. The spokesperson says Obama supports using coal for energy, but wants to figure out how to do it without emitting greenhouse gases and carbon.”
VOTE TOMORROW FOR A FREE PRESS IN THIS COUNTRY BY VOTING AGAINST BARACK OBAMA.
Email a link to this article to as many members of the media you can. Do it now.
Here’s the link, just copy and paste it into your email:
http://pumapac.org/2008/11/04/they-just-cant-get-enough-of-that-tingle/
You can pick up the media email addresses in our ACTION Center HERE.
Thank you and Good Luck.
Tomorrow is another day, a very IMPORTANT DAY indeed.
BE WONDERFUL TO EACH OTHER.
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DancesWithPumas 11.04.08 at 12:20 am
I thought my computer was broken.
hillstheone 11.04.08 at 12:21 am
Hi Dances!
OK I wanna talk about Ohio now.
DancesWithPumas 11.04.08 at 12:21 am
OOPS first… in that case:
RISE, PUMAS, RISE!
RISE, PUMA NATION, RISE!!
murphy 11.04.08 at 12:26 am
Oh, and BE SURE to send a link to this article to Erin Davisson.
I’m sure she’ll get a REAL tingle hearing from US again!
bwhahahahahahahaahaaa!
reach Erin Davisson at: tips@wfrv.com
SUBJECT: The Tingle — It BURNS!
just drop this link in:
http://pumapac.org/2008/11/04/they-just-cant-get-enough-of-that-tingle/#comments
and hit SEND.
Let’s make it viral before morning!
hillstheone 11.04.08 at 12:26 am
Dances, where is everybody, are we in another time warp?
Oneof18million cracks... 11.04.08 at 12:27 am
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sharpclaws 11.04.08 at 12:27 am
#341 (from downstairs) sisterluck
That bot’s comment is exactly why McCain has to win. It hasn’t got enough brains to understand why PUMA’s exist in the first place. It must subscribe to the “get in their face” mentality and clearly has no respect for other human beings – just like it’s fearless leader!
Can you just imagine a civilian militia made up of bots? No wonder gun sales are up so dramatically. I wish I had had the foresight to invest in those companies – they must be having record profits.
1gypsy4mc 11.04.08 at 12:28 am
OMG – Wow!! Gosh Darn Murphy, can’t believe you did that!!
wewillwin 11.04.08 at 12:28 am
I know I’ve been saying this a lot but PLEASE VOTE!!!!
We need all the Mccain votes we can get. We need a landslide victory.
PLEASE VOTE!!
catsarepumas 11.04.08 at 12:28 am
I am posting this from downstairs. It is not from me, but definitely worth a look. BO and Chairman Mao!
Sisterluck 11.04.08 at 12:03 am
Ugh. Bozo plagarizes Socialist leader with righteous wind comments?
http://robboyce.com/blog/2008/10/23/obama-channeling-chairman-mao-righteous-wind/
feebie 11.04.08 at 12:29 am
okey dokey. I guess thats why the SF Chronicle never wrote about it in their original news story. They COMPLETELY ommited it from their article. Im sure if it was taken SOOOO out of context, they would have been HAPPY to publish it then.
Ex-DemInVA 11.04.08 at 12:29 am
Good night PUMAs. We are expecting heavy rain tomorrow in VA, but it won’t stop me from skipping to the polls. Go McCain/Palin 2008!
I leave you with an Irish Blessing.
May the road rise to meet you.
May the wind be always at your back.
May the sun shine warm upon your face.
And rains fall soft upon your fields.
And until we meet again,
May God hold you in the hollow of His hand.
hillstheone 11.04.08 at 12:29 am
The media: It started with greed…wanting to be soooo profitable, let’s lay off our best reporters, you know, the investigative types. Just print any ol’ news release verbatim.
Then, it continued to go downhill because the internet began to fill in the demand for real info. You know that ol law of supply & demand?
Round and round it went till now we have a mainstream media that is not a far cry from something you’d expect in Russia or some communist country somewhere where there is a) no news and b) what news there is, is censored / filtered / big time.
Hill4me 11.04.08 at 12:30 am
FYI Murphy & Grizzly: just posted one of Grizzly’s ‘redistribution’ blog on several sites where there are Undecideds logging in (credited to Grizzly of course). Also invited them to our PUMA den, but because of the high percentage of undecideds who might be visiting for the first time, it might be good to post your pieces for all to read again.
Every one of them hit-home.
Grizzly 11.04.08 at 12:30 am
TexasTigress 11.03.08 at 11:17 pm
murphy 11.03.08 at 11:13 pm
RE: Erin Davisson,
she says she lifted that from online research. I was just looking at factcheck and can’t find anything there.
Where did she supposedly lift it FROM??
brb.
______________________________________________________________
If you read how she initially began the e-mail , it is obvious , that while she took her talking points from something Obama put out BUT it was obviously a RESPONSE and NOT an error as she tries to claim in the second letter . I think she is just trying to cover her butt for the first response ….
******************************************
Murphy, TT, ck, gypsy and sly -
Ms Davisson’s response is a Bill Burton special. On line sources? Right.
As it so happens, the extended version of Obama’s coal comments is posted on Jack Tapper’s blog. Here is what Obama said:
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/11/republicans-to.html
“I voted against the Clear Skies Bill. In fact, I was the deciding vote — despite the fact that I’m a coal state and that half my state thought that I had thoroughly betrayed them. Because I think clean air is critical and global warming is critical.
“But this notion of no coal, I think, is an illusion. Because the fact of the matter is, is that right now we are getting a lot of our energy from coal. And China is building a coal-powered plant once a week. So what we have to do then is figure out how can we use coal without emitting greenhouse gases and carbon. And how can we sequester that carbon and capture it. If we can’t, then we’re gonna still be working on alternatives.
“But … let me sort of describe my overall policy. What I’ve said is that we would put a cap and trade policy in place that is as aggressive if not more aggressive than anyone out there. I was the first call for 100 percent auction on the cap and trade system. Which means that every unit of carbon or greenhouse gases that was emitted would be charged to the polluter. That will create a market in which whatever technologies are out there that are being presented, whatever power plants are being built, they would have to meet the rigors of that market and the ratcheted-down caps that are imposed every year.
“So if somebody wants to build a coal-powered plant, they can. It’s just that it will bankrupt them because they’re going to be charged a huge sum for all that greenhouse gas that’s being emitted. That will also generate billions of dollars that we can invest in solar, wind, biodiesel, and other alternative energy approaches. The only thing that I’ve said with respect to coal — I haven’t been some coal booster. What I have said is that for us to take coal off the table as an ideological matter, as opposed to saying if technology allows us to use coal in a clean way, we should pursue it, that I think is the right approach. The same with respect to nuclear. Right now, we don’t know how to store nuclear waste wisely and we don’t know how to deal with some of the safety issues that remain. And so it’s wildly expensive to pursue nuclear energy. But I tell you what, if we could figure out how to store it safely, then I think most of us would say that might be a pretty good deal.
“The point is, if we set rigorous standards for the allowable emissions, then we can allow the market to determine and technology and entrepreneurs to pursue, what the best approach is to take, as opposed to us saying at the outset, here are the winners that we’re picking and maybe we pick wrong and maybe we pick right.”
The Davisson version is rather twisted. Obama flat out states he is no lover of coal, and his cap and trade policies would make it financially impossible to build new plants. He does toss in that he’d be open to non polluting coal (every fossil fuel creates carbon emissions), but tosses that prospect in with the chances of nuclear plants having the ability to generate power with no waste. In other words, fat chance.
The question he was answering was one about pollution – note how he goes into detail about his cap and trade plan being the most aggressive.
How someone comes up with a meaning that he was looking for ” ways of reducing emissions and allowing coal companies to meet emissions standards and stay in business” is utter nonsense. Look how they twisted the quote around. They put his statement about coal’s widespread use being something we may have to live with (until he puts them out of business by his cap and trade policies) as a modifier to his statement rather than where it started as a lead in that was later modified by his policy discussion and “bankrupt” comments.
It is sad that Ms Davisson’s “analysis” is what passes as journalism these days. There is no truth in her version – in fact, she is the one taking things out of their original context. She is happy to be spoon fed implausible explanations from the Obama campaign and has not the intellectual curiosity, or capacity, perhaps, to question the patent falacy of its logic.
And if that were not enough, let’s not forget Biden’s unequivocal statement that he and Obama would “kill” even clean coal initiatives:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yjx8RnDfdvM
The folks that post here are not partisan operatives of the GOP. They only agenda people have here is to get to the truth. And things usually get vetted very well here before they are cleared for dissemination to the masses. The main stream media may have lost all integrity and objectivity, but we have not.
Perhaps Ms Davisson needs to be pressed or prowled with a version of this response, with a demand that she enlighten us with her “on-line” sources. If it is something she is paying for, she’s getting ripped off.
DancesWithPumas 11.04.08 at 12:31 am
sent!
1gypsy4mc 11.04.08 at 12:32 am
Grizzly I posted this downstairs – there is something I wanted to send you, but I hate to say it on a post! Do you have gmail?
TrishfromCanada 11.04.08 at 12:33 am
Oneof18million cracks…
lol i love it!
nicfit 11.04.08 at 12:34 am
SharpClaws-
You have no idea how right you are about gun sales!
We went to the gun show in Denver this weekend and it was SLAMMED. And as a kid helped me carry my 3 brand-spankin’ new guns to my car, I asked him how business was and he said, “It’s great! Everyone’s scared!”
Yeah. Don’t I know it.
hillstheone 11.04.08 at 12:35 am
OHIO (repost cause no one answered me downstairs & I know someone knows the answer OR has an opinion)
http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P08/tally.phtml
2,354,721 Ohio Democrats voted in the primaries, and even with Edwards getting 1.67% of the vote, Hillary beat Obama in Ohio by 9 percentage points. There were 3,448,701 votes cast (both parties).
How many of Hillary’s votes would need to go to McCain in order for him to beat Obama, McCain needs at least 1.2 or 1.3 million Democrats to vote for him in Ohio, is that right?
Grizzly, BillieJo, Asian4Hillary, are you on tonite? I want to talk about Ohio just as a state to use as an example, I guess I am trying to figure out the answer to this:
Q – When the votes start coming in tomorrow night, what will our RED FLAGS be that Voter Fraud is occurring in say, a state like Ohio?
1gypsy4mc 11.04.08 at 12:35 am
Where did Grizzly go again? He’s always in and out!!
ck 11.04.08 at 12:37 am
Hey Murphy — Thank you! I would like to add that the comment at the end of Davisson’s e-mail (“Thanks for your interest, and remember to vote tomorrow.”) leads me to believe she either 1) requested help from the BO campaign in responding to the PUMA PAC e-mails, or 2) pulled material directly from the BO campaign talking points. I would rule out #2 because those talking points would’ve already been provided to the other media people to whom she sent the e-mail. Thus, I favor #1, that she sought help from the BO campaign in how to spin the story. Does anyone know how/whether this story was covered by WFRV, channel 5 (CBS) in Green Bay? Thanks.
1gypsy4mc 11.04.08 at 12:37 am
hillstheone I’m only going to be on for about another 5 minutes. I’ve been at it since 4:30 a.m……beat!!
mountainsong 11.04.08 at 12:38 am
murphy email sent
DancesWithPumas 11.04.08 at 12:38 am
Grizzly,
aside from two tingles burn w/ link email…
I also sent Ms Davisson your piece… subject: The education of…
sharpclaws 11.04.08 at 12:39 am
#19 nicfit
Yeah, sigh. I have 3 now too – should be picking my 3rd up late this week. Ughhhh. Classes for me in a couple of weeks.
Scared is right! I started to be afraid in April when the mute button became my best friend. Since then I graduated to a “Fox only” household, and even now I have to see way too much of That One.
This blog is where I get most of my news now.
PouncingPuma 11.04.08 at 12:39 am
The Tingle- It BURNS
Sent it.
Felt good too.
McCain/Palin!
hillstheone 11.04.08 at 12:39 am
Speaking of guns, maybe fear is in the air, here’s a bizarre story about an Obot: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081103/ap_on_re_us/highway_gunman_6
murphy 11.04.08 at 12:40 am
Grizzly is a Researching MADMAN!
He is the best.
Send the PROWL, Folks.
This may seem like routine business to us, we’ve known all along that people in the media were helping obama, but this IS NOT OKAY.
Good reporters DO NOT DO THIS.
Please do this PROWL as SOON as you can. Come back here and BRAG.
One more PROWL before the Mighty ROAR tomorrow night.
hillstheone 11.04.08 at 12:40 am
Hi gypsy, Never fret, if you need rest go lay down!
(((gypsy)))
GOSUEF4HIL 11.04.08 at 12:41 am
Murphy- I know I promised this on Wednesday but I couldn’t wait-
Dear sue,
This email confirms that you have donated Puma PAC $25.00 USD using PayPal.
This credit card transaction will appear on your bill as “PAYPAL *PUMA PAC”.
Donation Details
Donation amount: $25.00 USD
Total: $25.00 USD
Purpose: Puma PAC
Reference: Keep the Lights On
Contributor: sue
Donations coordinator: Puma PAC
now- on that e-mail- I will be right back, I got one from someone else today, I didn’t even pay attention because I have so much to do to defeat nobo but if it is similar, I am forwarding to you ASAP
murphy 11.04.08 at 12:41 am
ck — a-yup.
an even bigger no-no.
wewillwin 11.04.08 at 12:41 am
I don’t even want to think about that kinda stuff. (guns and such)
McCain is going to win right?
WE WILL WIN!!!
mountainsong 11.04.08 at 12:43 am
That pisses me off! Who the HELL do those thugs think they are? Threatening to punch men OR women in the face if Obama loses? That’s exactly why guns and ammo are seeling out everywhere.
DancesWithPumas 11.04.08 at 12:43 am
WFRV, channel 5 (CBS) in Green Bay? Thanks.
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she can delete her email…
maybe we shoukd send it her station manager, their advertisers, all media….
murphy 11.04.08 at 12:44 am
good plan dwp.
we need the emails.
someone go wake up Anna7000.
KIDDING!
DancesWithPumas 11.04.08 at 12:45 am
To send mail to WFRV or WJMN via U.S. Postal Service:
WFRV-TV / WJMN-TV
PO Box 19055
Green Bay, WI 54307-9055
Main Switchboard: 920-437-5411
Main Fax: 920-437-4576
Newsroom Tipline: 800-236-5550
Newsroom Fax: 920-437-5769
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murphy 11.04.08 at 12:45 am
Don’t fret mountainsong — mccain is going to win.
DancesWithPumas 11.04.08 at 12:46 am
let me find an email address for them…aside from Davisson’s
murphy 11.04.08 at 12:46 am
alright, anna can stay sleeping.
thanks dwp.
gotta get some zzzz’s meself.
Good Night Puma Nation!
Tomorrow is another day!
sharpclaws 11.04.08 at 12:46 am
#34/#35 yep – agree on both points.
DancesWithPumas 11.04.08 at 12:48 am
WFRV
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mountainsong 11.04.08 at 12:48 am
What’s happening here is that Americans are starting to relate to this attack by Obama the same way we did to the attack on Pearl Harbor!!! Like, Oh, HELL, NO!!! We are NOT just going to turn our country over to you.
mountainsong 11.04.08 at 12:50 am
murphy Yes, we may have a race war, but McCain IS going to win!!!! And, for the sake of everything America is, we will win the war, too.
sharpclaws 11.04.08 at 12:50 am
#43 mountainsong
I hope you are right, and I hope that this is reflected in the voting booths tomorrow.
feebie 11.04.08 at 12:51 am
this womans talking points make zero sense. seriously, anyone with half a brain would know if this was not such a damaging statement that the SF Chronical would have included it in their article about this interview (it was completely ommitted) back in Jan 08. BUT i suspect if they did, it would have helped Clinton. This is just BS beyond all belief.
hillstheone 11.04.08 at 12:52 am
OK I did the prowl, now how about Ohio, PUMA’s? Someone, please convince me McCain can really win tomorrow!
hillstheone 11.04.08 at 12:53 am
Post #20
Gotta go help daughter pay for SAT test, BRB & I hope someone answers!
DancesWithPumas 11.04.08 at 12:53 am
9:52 here, wheich means it’s “really” 10:52
Goodnight, PUMA NATION!!
Sleep with angels and dream the sweetest dreams.
MKfromLA 11.04.08 at 12:59 am
Sent.
Included my “signature” of links to all the reason I am not voting for NObama. Asked her to consider taking a peek.
wewillwin 11.04.08 at 1:00 am
What are peoples plans for tomorrow? (besides voting)
Planning on being out and about or at home in front of the TV and computer?
Me? Probably out….Think I would drive myself crazy thinking of this all day…Gotta get out and get some fresh air.
pprules 11.04.08 at 1:02 am
I don’t beleive this was posted:
Andy Martin has some new questions for Mr. Obama
http://contrariancommentary.blogspot.com/
Grizzly 11.04.08 at 1:06 am
gypsy
Having some computer issues. I do have a gmail address. Use yellowstonegrizzly. (All the regular grizzly names were taken, but perhaps I should see if “Spectre of the Grizzly” is available).
wewillwin 11.04.08 at 1:10 am
well, nite all.
I guess everyone has left.
McCain08
exDemMcvoter 11.04.08 at 1:10 am
This is why this election is so creepy. Every goshdarn FACT that comes out about this guy- no matter how extreme it is!- and they’ve ALL been really extreme- there’s a faction of paid-off fake Obots in the media who will just keep downplaying and downplaying until even the non-Obot peeps don’t care about the issue anymore and then onto the next scary FACT, repeat, rinse.
In the past few days tho, these FACTS have been coming out at a much more speedy level, one after another, and it’s getting harder for the regular people who’ve still got a brain left (not an Obot) to discount them.
I think anyone whose not already a braindead Obot will vote McCain tomorrow, no matter their party affiliation.
I think that’s why Obama encouraged people to vote early. he knew if all of this stuff came out over a period of days, rather than months, nobody who’s not already an idiot would vote for him.
I’ll be spending tomorrow evening with Obots (lucky me). I’ve spent the last 2 days coming up with what to say when they start going hysterical and screaming “The Republicans stole the election again!!”
Caroline 11.04.08 at 1:10 am
I have a presentiment that McCain will win tomorrow.
God bless your country!!!
Oneof18million cracks... 11.04.08 at 1:12 am
TrishFromCanada #18
Thank you I liked yours too. It is nice being back and finding you have also returned. Gosh I was just looking at your videos the other day. Remember when Carrie and I did the PUMA video? We were on fire back then. Oh such great memories to cherish. Our fight will pay off tomorrow. McCain will win.
alohapuma 11.04.08 at 1:12 am
Prowl done.
Sweet dreams Puma Nation
kevink 11.04.08 at 1:17 am
“Greenhouse Omission”
It seems Ms. Davisson has taken the word “Journalism” out of context
Oneof18million cracks... 11.04.08 at 1:17 am
Okay night prowling pumas I have to go to bed. I have six little ones coming to my in home day care tomorrow bright and early. I should have turned in hours ago. I fell asleep on the couch listening to my taped Hannity and Colmes. I awoke hearing all this warm and fuzzy praises of Obot and thought what the hell is Fox News doing warm and fuzzy on Obot for. I realized my dvr was done with Hannity and it had gone back to the orignal station ABC 13 news. YUCK!!! Haven’t watched anything but Fox News for months.
Good nite, sleep tight and watch McCain win tomorrow NIGHT!!!
BillieJo 11.04.08 at 1:18 am
Prowl sent.
exDemMcvoter 11.04.08 at 1:18 am
wewillwin-
Tomorrow I’m cleaning the house, a clean sweep for the dawning of a new day when we get a new President and VP elected, Mc/Palin.
Then Obot friends are coming over and we’re going to play board/card games with the TV on in the background.
It was my idea to do the games so that I have something else to focus on while they go berserk, berate me for switching, praise the Dem. Party, go all hate all the time on the Republicans, etc.
When McCain starts showing strong wins, that’s when TSHTF bigtime for me and we may have to go for a rousing game of Twister or something.
RoBoTech 11.04.08 at 1:19 am
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D947PVBG0&show_article=1
Gov Palin has been cleared on her Ethics charge by the Alaska Personnel Board.
Funny how this will be released TODAY!
yellowMcpuma08 11.04.08 at 1:19 am
I just did the prowl, Good night dear pumas, tomorrow will be our day, and we will win with Mc.Cain/Palin.
wewillwin 11.04.08 at 1:19 am
Caroline
Thank you! we sure hope McCain wins tomorrow.
God Bless!
ElyLos Angeles 11.04.08 at 1:20 am
Prowl Done.
Good Night
Bordm 11.04.08 at 1:20 am
exDemMcvoter
“I’ll be spending tomorrow evening with Obots (lucky me). I’ve spent the last 2 days coming up with what to say when they start going hysterical and screaming “The Republicans stole the election again!!”
You could just come out and tell them that, you were one of the many PUMAs that voted against Obama, so ACORN could not steal your vote.
BillieJo 11.04.08 at 1:20 am
Good night PUMAs, tomorrow we will be up late…sweet dreams.
TerryDo 11.04.08 at 1:22 am
Just completed prowl!
ck 11.04.08 at 1:23 am
Sent the link to GVS and to the WI GOP (as TT had suggested earlier).
Libby 11.04.08 at 1:25 am
Time to go to bed so I can get up and vote before work.
See you all again tomorrow.
rosebud 11.04.08 at 1:29 am
Ohio knows about coal comments: http://www.ohiocoal.com/
exDemMcvoter 11.04.08 at 1:30 am
#67 Bordm-
Yep. that’s what I’m telling them: It was the Dems who brought the Annointed One down.
They’re not going to believe me.
So the next step is going to be to send them to some PUMA sites.
(Sorry Murphy)
After they see this site, they’ll feel like the fools they are.
Unfortunately, they never ever would visit and learn pre-election.
hillstheone 11.04.08 at 1:31 am
OK so nobody wants to talk about OHIO (post #20), fine. Excuse me for thinking that talking about one of the bellweather states in our union might help us figure out how we can gauge voter fraud when the returns start coming in tomorrow night. I guess nobody knows the answer or maybe everybody is burned out tonight.
But maybe Ohio is a bad example, because judging from realclearpolitics:
FOX News/Rasmussen Obama 49, McCain 49 Tie
> > > What we need to look at and talk about is a state where Obama is slightly trailing McCain in the polls, and suddenly comes out swinging with the votes on Tuesday.
I am regretting not researching the swing states more closely this weekend as I would really like to be able to have a list of Red Flag swing states that raise voter fraud issues – esp the ones where McCain is leading.
OK at least I got that off my chest. nite nite, all.
pooh496 11.04.08 at 1:33 am
PUMA PUMA PUMA PUMA!!!!!!!
Thank you for all your support. You are great people here. Thank you Murphy for this site and your vision. I appreciate you all and all your hard work. On to VICTORY and see ya on the other side. Lets get these democrats reformed and back on the side of justice. God Bless Us All and God Bless America!!!
And thank you Hillary for waking us up!
kevink 11.04.08 at 1:36 am
This is what I wrote to our intrepid reporter:
Ms. Davisson:
I know that journalism is a difficult and time-sensitive profession, so it is understandable that one is tempted to take shortcuts- to proceed with whatever slapdash information one can find on Wikipedia, or perhaps on an “talking points” email from the Obama campaign. As you clearly have no time to do any research, I am doing you a favor and forwarding to you the following information on Obama’s ACTUAL comments regarding cap & trade proposals for coal power. I hope it proves useful to you if you ever decide to document the facts rather than to spread your own opinions and pass them off as news.
Sincerely,
A PUMA Who Knows You’re No Real Journalist
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/11/republicans-to.html
Grizzly 11.04.08 at 1:39 am
My letter to Ms. Davisson below. I do expect a lovely response.
Ms. Davisson:
I just had the opportunity to read your communication back to a member of the PUMA organization regarding Senator Obama’s position on the coal industry. Your response has been posted here: http://pumapac.org/2008/11/04/they-just-cant-get-enough-of-that-tingle/#comments
I was surprised by your assertions that the words of Senator Obama had been taken out of context, apparently based on your verification of the same with “on-line” sources. Part of my surprise was based on my own research into the issue immediately after the story broke, research that I conducted with several independent sources of information.
I was certain that your assertions were not consistent with my prior recollection of the facts of this matter, so I sought to refresh my recollection and confirm my original conclusions regarding the topic.
To begin, we need to look at the Senator’s comments in their original context. The Senator was responding to a question concerning the environmental impact of coal as a source for the production of electricity in the United States. Second, we need to examine the entire response given by Senator Obama, rather than the “sound bite” that has been playing on the airwaves. The Senator’s inclusive response is carried here on ABC’s blog: http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/11/republicans-to.html
What is very clear upon close examination of the facts, is that the Senator’s comments have not been taken out of context. Moreover, the broader context of his response reinforces the original assertion that Senator Obama in fact stated and meant to state that his policies if elected would curtail the use of coal as an energy source by making it financially impossible to sustain a business of that nature.
Senator Obama succinctly states he is not “some coal booster”. He makes it clear that his cap and trade policies would make it financially impossible to build new coal plants. The Senator does comment that he would be open to non polluting coal, but lumps that remote prospect (every fossil fuel creates carbon emissions) in with the chances of nuclear plants having the ability to generate power with no waste. In other words, not a viable expectation.
How someone comes up with a meaning that Senator Obama was looking for ” ways of reducing emissions and allowing coal companies to meet emissions standards and stay in business” defies credulity. In your response, you have actually twisted the Senator’s quote around. You have put Senator Obama’s statement about coal’s widespread use being something we may have to live with (until he puts them out of business by his cap and trade policies) as a modifier to his statement rather than where it started in his quoted remarks as a lead in that was later modified by his policy discussion and “bankrupt” comments.
I am extremely dismayed that your “analysis” is what unfortunately passes as journalism these days. There is no truth the version outlined in your response – in fact, you are the one taking things out of their original context. I do note that your response is virtually a mirror image of the communication issued by the Obama Campaign on the subject. I can only surmise that you are content to be spoon-fed implausible explanations from the Obama campaign and lack the intellectual curiosity, journalistic skills, or both, to question the patent fallacy of its logic of the offered explanation.
Perhaps it would also help if you took time to review or acknowledge Senator Biden’s unequivocal statement that he and Senator Obama would “kill” even clean coal initiatives: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yjx8RnDfdvM
The people who post on the PUMA web site are not partisan operatives of the GOP. Their only agenda people has been and is to get to the truth. And from what I have seen addressed on the PUMA site, issues are usually vetted extremely well before they are disseminated outside of the site. The main stream media may have lost all integrity and objectivity, but the PUMA’s have not.
I await your response. Please understand, however, that your response will be posted on the PUMA site and will be distributed to other news sources and blogs throughout the country.
Good day, Ms. Davisson,
“Grizzly”
PUMA
NoHillaryNoVote 11.04.08 at 1:40 am
hillary2008 11.03.08 at 11:10 pm
What is this story about Jerry Nadler? He works for Obama and says that he lacks political courage. Did anyone see this on Greta, I was making calls.
hillary2008 11.03.08 at 11:17 pm
This Jerry Nadler thing is big according to Greta. Has anyone heard about this? Greta thinks that it will help get Reps out who wouldn’t otherwise.
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I just saw the repeat of Greta on Fox News and heard the story for the first time. The video of Jerrold Nadler D-NY talking is compelling because he says the words chatting with people at a synagogue in Florida. He obviously did not know he was being recorded.
When asked about Obama remaining in that church for 20 years Nadler says “He didn’t have the political courage to want to make the statement of walking out.”
Nadler keeps referencing the fact that the church had 8,000 people – using that to explain why Obama joined the church & why Obama stayed.
How did Nadler think that would sway people to vote for Obama? If anything it only proves what we have been discussing on here for months.
http://www.palmbeachpost.com/blogs/content/shared-blogs/palmbeach/floridapolitics/entries/2008/11/03/surrogate_in_boca_obama_lacked.html
gostrumcat 11.04.08 at 1:40 am
Sorry hillstheone, just saw this thread. Ohio will come out okay. If Cleveland can stay clean, the rest will take care of itself.
hillstheone 11.04.08 at 1:43 am
Oh hi, gostrum!
Well I was just looking at a map, I think (Ohio aside because I think it’s too close to call), Indiana and North Carolina are 2 states to watch.
Why? They’re close, but McCain is expected to win there.
Let’s watch & see if suddenly & magically, Obama pulls ahead in either of these states.
Bordm 11.04.08 at 1:45 am
Hillstheone
Don’t worry about the voter fraud, ACORN has been doing this for many elections and has always been defeated by the turnout of live citizens. PUMA will make up the difference this election. McCain/Palin will win in spite of all the fraud, thanks to y’all.
gostrumcat 11.04.08 at 1:47 am
I’d be more worried about NC. I grew up in Ohio and have family in Indiana. Outside of the urban areas, they seem to be pretty moderate. Not necessarily Republican, but not up for BO’s shenanigans either. Proud and practical people = McPalin wins.
ck 11.04.08 at 1:47 am
#76 kevink and #77 Grizzly — Outstanding! Thank you! Those should be copied to every media outlet that receives the link to Murphy’s article above. (Perhaps, if you deem it appropriate, you might consider sending copies to the other media outlets listed in the e-mail from Ms. Davisson?) Now, I can go and get some rest.
hillstheone 11.04.08 at 1:47 am
“In your response, you have actually twisted the Senator’s quote around.
…I am extremely dismayed that your “analysis” is what unfortunately passes as journalism these days…I do note that your response is virtually a mirror image of the communication issued by the Obama Campaign on the subject. I can only surmise that you are content to be spoon-fed implausible explanations from the Obama campaign and lack the intellectual curiosity, journalistic skills, or both, to question the patent fallacy of its logic of the offered explanation.”
Wow, you’re good, Grizzly, verrry good!!!
NativeFlower 11.04.08 at 1:47 am
NoHillaryNoVote
that youtube video is EXPLODING with views! it jumped from 93,000 to 101,000 in a matter of a couple of hours earlier tonight
…i wonder what it’s at now
hillstheone 11.04.08 at 1:48 am
Gosh Bordm, I sure hope you’re right.
exDemMcvoter 11.04.08 at 1:49 am
NoHillaryNoVote-
I’ve been thinking about O’s “church” and the “reverend” Wright and “father” Flagher for a while.
I’ve been to so many Black churches in my life and never saw one like that. And the people at the ones I attended, I don’t think that they would consider that a “church” either. A Rally, maybe, but not a church that you’d attend every Sunday for any kind of spiritual sustenance.
I’m thinking Oblahblah may lose some black votes just over that so-called church. Too wierd.
notfollowinthepiedpiper 11.04.08 at 1:49 am
Obama wins in earliest vote in tiny Dixville, NH 15-6
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081104/ap_on_el_pr/new_hampshire_first_votes
But don’t worry PUMAs they picked Humphrey over Nixon in ‘68
and voted unanimously for Nixon the year Kennedy won. In other words, they seem to have a good record for endorsing the loser!
hillstheone 11.04.08 at 1:50 am
wewillwin #51
I have to go to work, someone’s got to feed the baby PUMA’s, that’d be me.
But I’ll be kicking back with something cold to drink tomorrow nite.
Nite, all.
gostrumcat 11.04.08 at 1:53 am
Goodnight hills, get the workday done and get back here!
NoHillaryNoVote 11.04.08 at 1:58 am
Ex-DemInVA 11.04.08 at 12:29 am
I’m with you! I also live in VA and had just looked at the weather website to see what time it’s going to rain the hardest. I was digging around in my closet tonight for my work boots to wear in case I’m standing outside waiting to vote. Murphy said to wear orange tomorrow, but I don’t see anything orange in my closet!
I’ve heard it suggested here in VA to vote between 10am-4pm in order to avoid those in the workforce who will be voting before & after their work day.
My husband & I both were laid off from our jobs (me end of Sept & my husband end of Aug) so voting is very important to me. We had to spend our savings and are now tapping into our IRA to stay afloat. I want McCain-Palin to get elected and turn this economy around!
I’ll be glad when this election is over. I’m african american and most of my family avoid me because they want to convince me to vote for Obama. So we agreed to just stop talking about the election in order to keep any peace. But they can’t seem to help themselves each time they see me. Any time my husband starts jabbering at me I simply remind him we agreed to not discuss until after election day and I plug my ears to demonstrate I do not want to hear not one word about Obama.
I am counting on watching a victory tomorrow night for McCain-Palin!!
mzebest 11.04.08 at 1:58 am
This takes some time to watch… but it’s a must see video. I highly recommend it and found it a fascinating and eye opening video.
http://thethirdjihad.com/30min.html
or you can watch the short trailer on the homepage (to get an idea of the content):
http://thethirdjihad.com
EWard 11.04.08 at 1:59 am
#55 exDemMcVoter
Newt Gingrich was on H&C tonight. His sources from polling companies are saying that the early voter demographics are very similar to previous Presidential elections. In other words, there has not been a surge of college students or AAs voting early.
going to sign off- want to vote early
Murphy,
Thank you so much for starting PumaPac. We have made a difference. Pumas were the first ones to pick up the coal story Saturday night. It has impacted some voters in the battleground states. Good Job Pumas!!!!!!!!!
alohapuma 11.04.08 at 2:00 am
Grizzly,
Your response rocks! I think it should be copied to the other hired hands masquerading as journalists on the media list.
alohapuma 11.04.08 at 2:03 am
NoHillaryNoVote
OMG Did Greta pick up the Nadler video? I posted it several places yesterday (including here) and thought I was the only one. I think Nadler thought he was throwing water on the kitchen stove.
NativeFlower 11.04.08 at 2:10 am
“In the 21st century, white America got a wake-up call after 9/11/01. White America and the Western world came to realize that people of color had not gone away, faded into the woodwork or just ‘disappeared’ as the Great White West kept on its merry way of ignoring Black concerns.”
“America’s chickens… are coming home… to ROOST!”
…hey Jeremiah Wright, I live in NYC. YOu know what A-hole, EVERYBODY in this city was hurting after two jet airplanes flew into the Twin Towers. My husband and I sat next to a big brave Black Policeman at restaurant days later. He was dining alone and we asked him to join us. He gladly pulled up a chair and shared with us his troubles. You see Jeremiah, this man had been spending days on end pulling dead bodies from the rubble. He was recovering bodies of strangers and his own fellow policemen. He said he would go home at night after working at Ground Zero and cry like a baby. He was a good man and like alot of here in NYC, will forever be affected, if not traumatized, by the events of that day.
Guess what Jeremiah WRONG, the terrorists that flew those planes into those 3 buildings that day didn’t care if the people in them were White or Black or Hispanic or Asian or Jewish or Native American or Purple with Green Stripes!
Go crawl back under the rock you came from Jeremiah WRONG. And take your protégé Barack Obama with you.
NativeFlower 11.04.08 at 2:12 am
NY congressman Jerrold Nadler says Obama is “Not Politically Courageous”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rB1G0D3r7k
BrianH 11.04.08 at 2:19 am
the Mystery of the Hidden Hand! Who wrote the book that got Barack his Law Society post and graduation honors? And what is the “Bill of reckoning”, the pay-back, I wonder?
http://patdollard.com/2008/11/study-ayers-was-ghostwriter-on-obama-dreams-book/
Cat’s paw, indeed.
“The reason O?No! didn’t take his own and MO’s advice about not running till he had more achievements is that HE IS NOT HIS OWN MASTER. He is a cat’s paw for the Cloward-Piven-Alinsky-Ayers cabal. And they thought that the current state of play was an opportunity to take a shot at the Big Brass Ring — so they rushed their Presidential-Hand-Puppet-In-Training into action.
Big Mistake. It will turn out that their mis-calculation will result in massive defeat and the exposure of the whole snake pit. God works in mysterious ways …”
jennforhillary 11.04.08 at 2:20 am
Prowl done!
NoHillaryNoVote 11.04.08 at 2:23 am
exDemMcvoter 11.04.08 at 1:49 am
I totally agree! Like you, I’ve been in lots of black churches and I did not recognize that type of church at all.
When the Wright thing first came up I had to go on the Internet to learn what the heck this black liberation theology was about.
I think that has been what has disappointed me the most about Hillary & Bill Clinton campaigning for Obama. They have always said that their faith was central to their lives – but they chose to support someone who had for 20 years belonged to a church with Jeremiah Wright as the minister. I just have a hard time seeing what is said as part of the “sermon” as being christian.
I saw on Hannity recently where Obama brought up on the stage at one of his rallies, the minister who replaced Jeremiah Wright (Otis Moss). I don’t believe that Obama has really cut ties with that church. Obama needs those 8,000 members in that church to vote for him from Illinois. I’ve seen some videos around the Internet of Otis Moss and he is promoting the same type of beliefs that Jeremiah Wright spoke.
Obama uses everybody to gain fame. It’s disgusting.
alohapuma 11.04.08 at 2:24 am
Well I PRAY this Nadler video turns the Jewish vote. It looks like Florida is going McCain. McCain has only 19% of the Jewish vote yesterday morning. A wide reversal could mean a great deal.
I’m not a Jew, but I have tremendous respect for their passion and ability to organize. If they collectively doubt Obama will defend Isreal, they will become an 11th hour wildfire.
SergeiRostov 11.04.08 at 2:26 am
On Obama and coal, to boil it down:
Obama says that getting rid of coal is an illusion
AND
He says that due to his polcies, anyone who builds a new coal plant will go bankrupt due to the fines and etc. for the pollution it would cause.
BUT
Doesn’t explain how – under those same polcies – it could be that already-existing currently-polluting plants could possibly stay in business (since this would logically contradict the previous statement).
SO
In other words, he really DOES want to destroy the coal industry IMMEDIATELY, and is lying about having said so.
alohapuma 11.04.08 at 2:28 am
I think Congressman Nadler is right. Obama doesn’t adhere to any ideology. He’s not an anti-Semite any more than he is a patriot. Obama is an opportunist. He’s not about faith or principal, he’s about collecting adulation and power.
SergeiRostov 11.04.08 at 2:32 am
NoHillaryNoVote 11.04.08 at 2:23 am
I think that has been what has disappointed me the most about Hillary & Bill Clinton campaigning for Obama.
Hillary gave her word a long time ago (as did Bill), that she was going to campaign hard for whoever the Dem nominee turned out to be; as much as it might pain her personally, she is simply keeping her word (which, by the way, is more than Obama has ever done).
But let’s say she speaks out. It’s the “rock and a hard place” thing. Either she is believed (which destroys the Democratic Party and liberalism along with it, leaving the country and the world to conservatism), or she isn’t (which destroys both her and Bill’s ability to do any future good in or out of politics, including keeping the corrupt wing of the Dems from doing too much damage, keeping the Party from descending into total corruption; and which also means the two most able polticians in the country – and the only ones proven by Special Prosecutor to be squeaky-clean – get removed from the picture).
In either case, she becomes The-Woman-Who-Didn’t-Keep-Her-Word and even worse, The-Woman-Who-Didn’t-Keep-Her-Word-Because-You-Can’t-Trust-Women-They-Are-All-Hormonal-And-Unstable-So-You-Can’t-Have-Any-Of-Them-In-Office-And-This-Proves-It [(So-Shut-Up).]
NoHillaryNoVote 11.04.08 at 2:35 am
alohapuma 11.04.08 at 2:03 am
NoHillaryNoVote
OMG Did Greta pick up the Nadler video? I posted it several places yesterday (including here) and thought I was the only one. I think Nadler thought he was throwing water on the kitchen stove.
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Sorry I missed your post yesterday.
I saw the video on Greta and then Brit Hume mentioned with Nadler’s written quote on screen. I think by tomorrow every Fox News show will be discussing.
NoHillaryNoVote 11.04.08 at 2:42 am
SergeiRostov 11.04.08 at 2:32 am
Hillary brought many of us democrats to the streets in support of her. Then the DNC drove many of us away with how they treated Hillary. Many of us PUMAs worked like crazy for Hillary and she knows it.
Destroying the Democratic party as it is today – led by Obama, Reid, Frank,Dean & Brazile – wouldn’t bother me a bit. I would not shed a tear.
PUMAs are about reclaiming the Democratic party & taking the party back from the liberals & socialists extremists who have attempted to hijack this party – using any dishonest means necessary.
I still hope that one day Hillary and Bill will speak up and show us that they are really about the people in this country and not about what has become a party who makes me ashamed.
NoHillaryNoVote 11.04.08 at 2:43 am
McCain on Fox News at his final rally – in Arizona.
BrianH 11.04.08 at 2:45 am
MAHER: You Don’t Have to Worship Something, There Are Enough Real Problems In the World. Oops; Billie may need some heavy-duty protection from enraged O-Believers from now on! They don’t take apostasy and blasphemy lightly, you know.
BrianH 11.04.08 at 2:46 am
Ug. Sorry for not closing the link, above. It still works, even bloated like that, tho.
alohapuma 11.04.08 at 2:51 am
NoHillaryNoVote 11.04.08 at 2:42 am
I’m just glad the story got on the radar! I thought it was big day before yesterday and couldn’t understand why no one seemed interested.
Point being…Nadler’s statement is another way of saying Barack Obama doesn’t have convictions one way or another. He wears whatever mask is necessary to accomplish an end.
He may throw Jews under the bus…he may not. I has nothing to do with ideology.
alohapuma 11.04.08 at 2:52 am
IT has nothing to do with ideology.
NativeFlower 11.04.08 at 3:24 am
hey you guys…. i came across a publication that claims to have a hint regarding the material on the tape that the LAme Times won’t release
the source says the LAme Times “can’t release it is because statements Obama said to rile audience up during toast. He congratulates Khalidi for his work saying ‘Israel has no God-given right to occupy Palestine‘ plus there’s been ‘genocide against the Palestinian people by Israelis.”
also the article states that a European financier, cited by the Atlas Shrugs blog, has offered a $150,000 reward for provision of the tape.
http://globalpolitician.com/25255-israel-obama
article in Global Politician by Ted Belman who also writes for Israpundit.com
…I wonder if we will ever know the truth?
clintondemocrat 11.04.08 at 3:27 am
I had a two very scary conversations today with “regular voters.”
One woman told me that she could not vote for McCain because he picked a jokester as a VP and that she could not vote for someone who brought a flute to the debate. This woman didn’t know the difference between Sarah Palin and Tina Fey.
clintondemocrat 11.04.08 at 3:29 am
The second conversation was with a woman who didn’t know who was the vice presidential nominee on the democratic ticket. She assumed that if something happened to obama, hillary would automatically be president.
She also didn’t know that Tennessee was about to be delivered for McCain and she asked me to explain why.
Very very scary.
Ive also met two other people in the last 24 hours who proudly voted for Bush and now are in the Obama camp. Explain that.
gumbykat 11.04.08 at 3:33 am
clintondemocrat…Do you live in Austin? LOL…
Asian4Hillary 11.04.08 at 3:40 am
I was watching FOXNEWS awhile ago, I can’t sleep. Foxnews reported CBS spent over $2 million to cover NObama’s campaign while on McCain campaign they only spend 400k. Among all networks that covered this campaign FOXNEWS is the most balance
clintondemocrat 11.04.08 at 3:40 am
hahahah I live in Knoxville, TN
clintondemocrat 11.04.08 at 3:41 am
In the middle of ALLLLL of this, our football coach got FIRED today. DAMN I HATE 2008!!!!!!!!!!!!
gumbykat 11.04.08 at 3:44 am
clintondem….It sounded like something someone in Austin would say. My mother is from Clarksville. Have alot of relatives in Tn.
clintondemocrat 11.04.08 at 3:46 am
oh yeah, clarksville.
clintondemocrat 11.04.08 at 3:47 am
I started a protest against our athletic director.
clintondemocrat 11.04.08 at 3:47 am
I call it project Nobama/No Hamilton
clintondemocrat 11.04.08 at 3:48 am
But in regards to the election, we just finished our run through town for our PUMA stuff. We have signs up at 10 polls where Hillary did well during the primary that says, write In Hillary.
clintondemocrat 11.04.08 at 3:49 am
Niether the Mccain people nor the Obama people have signs out, it’s very weird.
We also have signs up all over town. We hand made 50 signs and put them on stakes.
We plastered several bulletin boards on campus. totally plastered them with “write in Hillary”
gumbykat 11.04.08 at 3:49 am
UT(TX)lost our first game this season. I wish your team luck.
NoHillaryNoVote 11.04.08 at 3:52 am
I did a little looking around to find out what to watch for as the election results come in. I wanted to know the strategy being promoted for McCain-Palin to claim victory!
Identified 3 articles that kind of gave me a road map for McCain’s win.
See snips below – I took out all their mentions of Polls or their personal comments & summaries – only copied the details to help know what to monitor as the results roll in.
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(Katharine Q. Seelye wrote:)
- The suspense starts in Indiana. Most polls close at 6 p.m. and others at 7.
- Also at 7 p.m., polls close in Virginia and Georgia, and polls close in most of Florida and New Hampshire.
- At 7:30, polls close in Ohio and North Carolina.
- At 8, Pennsylvania and Missouri finish voting.
- Colorado polls close at 9.
- New Mexico also closes at 9
- Nevada, where polls close at 10, is the latest tossup to report.
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(George Stephanopoulos wrote):
Six (6) states to watch between 7pm & 8pm
- Virginia and Indiana…last polls close at 7pm,
- Ohio and North Carolina after 7:30pm, and then
- Pennsylvania and Florida after 8pm.
McCain campaign manager Rick Davis conceded on “This Week” that John McCain HAS TO WIN five (5) out of six (6) of these states to have a viable path to the presidency.
He could get there by holding all of the Bush states — Indiana, Virginia, Ohio, Florida, and North Carolina — and losing Pennsylvania, and then sacrificing Iowa and New Mexico. But he will then need to secure Nevada and Colorado and all the rest of the Bush states later in the evening.
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(William Kristol wrote):
- McCain would have to win every state where he now leads or is effectively even in the polls (including North Carolina, Indiana and Missouri).
- He’d have to take Florida and Ohio…. That gets him to 247 of the 270 votes needed.
- McCain’s path to victory is then to snatch Pennsylvania (which gets him to 268),
- and win either Virginia, Colorado, Nevada or New Mexico… — or New Hampshire….
Shane 11.04.08 at 4:00 am
It is now Tuesday morning in Ireland………
As Elvis says ” It is now or never “……………
Good luck Pumas in getting the Vote out…….
Let us hope that “Bradley” erupts to-day
Good Fortune……..Shane, Ireland
clintondemocrat 11.04.08 at 4:03 am
gumbykat:
I watched that game this weekend. Im sorry about your loss because having been an undergraduate during our national championship and the first BCS national championship, it’s may be likely that a run for y’all may be over for the national championship.
Im so tired. We’re doing visibility in 4 hours.
storytellers 11.04.08 at 4:30 am
good morning pumas
i hope today is our V day
justnotright 11.04.08 at 5:04 am
Great post, Murphy.
I have worked as a journalist for many years of my life (although not recently), at the Jerusalem Post, among others. It makes me cringe when I see the blatant bias. The media has been Obama’s propaganda corps throughout this election.
We’re fighting incredible odds here, taking on the Obama juggernaut. But its the only chance we have. We play the cards we are dealt, and like John McCain likes to say at the end of his speeches, “Nothing is inevitable here. We don’t run from history. We make history.”
BrianH 11.04.08 at 5:16 am
Michael Yon, correspondent extraordinaire, has a wonderful personal parable to pass on about William J. Gurley. It’s a short, fun, read, go off and do it!
~~~
OK, now — is BO Bill Gurley?
He’s certainly a “pig in a poke”, with all the ‘unavailable’ documentation of his past and proclivities. There are little disturbing leaks, like youthful dalliances with coke and bisexuality. But, unlike Bill Gurley, he actually has to show his face to the world. Has this been the downfall of the effort to elect “the man who wasn’t there”?
We can only hope so.
NoHillaryNoVote 11.04.08 at 5:17 am
NO OBAMA – CURIOUS – WHAT ARE THE VOTING OPTIONS
Someone asked me today if all Pumas were voting for McCain, and I said no – but we are in agreement that we are NOT voting for Obama.
I’ve decided to vote for McCain-Palin, but the question got me thinking about what are the other options Pumas are choosing in how they handle their vote.
I tried to recall the various options Pumas have shared (and debated) on this blog regarding how individuals plan to handle this presidential election.
I came up with a quick list of No Obama options:
Vote – but leave President/Vice-President blank (no choice)
Vote for McCain-Palin
Vote for Third Party or Independent (such as Nader or Barr or McKinney or Baldwin)
Write-In Hillary Clinton
Write-In someone else
Stay home – not vote
Just curious – are there any other options?
I explored all these options before deciding to vote for McCain-Palin. It was hard for me to resolve to vote republican after so many years of voting democrat.
I think my family & friends who are voting for Obama don’t understand that I did not make this decision easily; and they do not know how thoroughly I explored the pros & cons of all the other options.
justnotright 11.04.08 at 5:24 am
It’s 9 p.m. here in Melbourne, Australia (5 a.m. EST USA). I’ll put in an all-nighter for PUMA Pac tonight. Just tell me what to do. I am pretty lousy on the phone so I would probably be able to better serve the cause with internet postings, emails, etc.
I will send a copy of this post to Murphy, but I’m posting it here as well – not for attention – but rather to reassure other PUMAs that the ranks are “falling in” on this fateful day.
Patty 11.04.08 at 5:27 am
Good morning PUMAS.
I am so happy I voted weeks ago.
They have been showing long lines at the polls here in Cincinnati.
Patty 11.04.08 at 5:28 am
If You Could Vote Twice, Would You?
http://www.wcpo.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=72f5060c-a324-45b5-b6ad-5b38963d5ffc
SouthJerseyPUMA 11.04.08 at 5:31 am
THERE SHOULD BE NO OPTION AS TO LEAVING THE TOP BLANK~ THINGS HAVE MOVED BEYOND THAT CONSIDERATION. OUR COUNTRY IS AT STAKE NOW AND IT’S NATIONAL SECURITY IN JEOPARDY IF OUR DEFENSE IS CUT. WE WILL BE SUBJECTABLE TO ANOTHER 9-11 OR WORSE! EVERYONE SHOULD REALIZE, THERE ISNT ANY OTHER CHOICE BUT TO VOTE FOR McCAIN. I KNOW I AM SCARED ENOUGH OF BHO AND WHAT HE COULD DO TO US THEN I AM AT WHAT McCAIN WOULD DO~ I KNOW McCAIN WILL KEEP THIS COUNTRY SAFE~ CAN ANYONE SAY THE SAME OF BHO? SORRY BUT THINGS ARE TOO DAMN IMPORTANT NOW~ TOO CLOSE IN NUMBERS! WE NEED A WIN!!! NOT ANOTHER HILLARY LOSS SCENARIO…
SouthJerseyPUMA 11.04.08 at 5:32 am
135# YOUR DAMN RIGHT I WOULD.. TWO CAN PLAY THAT GAME!
justnotright 11.04.08 at 5:40 am
P.S. If Murphy is too busy to give me marching orders by email, I’d be happy to take orders from other commanders in the PUMA war room today. Just let me know.
Lady Like 11.04.08 at 5:40 am
Maybe the PUMA factor is why Team McCain is feeling optimistic about their chances tomorrow:
FOX’s Cameron: Team Mac confident on Election Eve
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbk5PNFnxqQ
ProudPumaJen 11.04.08 at 5:48 am
I think leaving the top spot open is a non option-it gives someone else handling your ballot the opportunity to commit fraud by marking it however they wish. As for write ins, check your state laws…a write in vote for Hillary might actually end up going for Obama, that would kind of defeat the purpose, wouldn’t it?
Patty 11.04.08 at 5:56 am
Justnotright,
I’m sure Murphy is getting some much need sleep right now.
You can find things to do in the action center.
http://www.pumapac.org/media.html
From Australia the best thing you can do is Blog blog blog.
You can google ohio blogs or North Carolina blogs etc…
and get our message out that way.
And leave these links every where you blog
http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2008/05/six-degrees-of-barack-obama-updated.html
http://wthrockmorton.com/2008/10/31/obamas-housing-record-part-five-view-from-a-constituent-beauty-turner/
http://www.pumapac.org
Hope I’ve helped some.
Patty 11.04.08 at 6:00 am
Jen good point.
How tempting would that be for someone to fill in the top for you.
And easy to.
BrianH 11.04.08 at 6:05 am
Here’s the closing M-P Web video: The Mac Is Back!
taggles1 11.04.08 at 6:08 am
VOTE!
BrianH 11.04.08 at 6:16 am
NO OBAMA – CURIOUS – WHAT ARE THE VOTING OPTIONS
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I came up with a quick list of No Obama options:
Vote – but leave President/Vice-President blank (no choice)
Vote for McCain-Palin
Vote for Third Party or Independent (such as Nader or Barr or McKinney or Baldwin)
Write-In Hillary Clinton
Write-In someone else
Stay home – not vote
Just curious – are there any other options?
)
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YES! Arrange with a friend in a deep blue or red state to vote 3rd party, e.g., and cast your vote for M-P where it counts. (If you are sufficiently ambitious and duplicitous, make the same arrangement with several friends separately!
Beth 11.04.08 at 6:20 am
Good Morning!
On my way to vote for McCain-Palin here in Ohio.
The polls open at 6:30.
McCain-Palin 08
BrianH 11.04.08 at 6:24 am
Wuf! Michael Totten, reporting on Syria, gives some detail on the rulers there with whom Obanana would sit down “without conditions”:
BrianH 11.04.08 at 6:27 am
Heh. I just realized what a grotesque light that throws on the already grotesque (and treasonous) meeting Pelosi had with Assad!
slyt2 11.04.08 at 6:31 am
GOOD MORNING PUMA’s what are you all feeling in the air this morning? My husband went to vote this morning (polls open at 6:30 but there was already like 80 people lined up and he has to be at work by 7 so he couldn’t wait.
DeadGirl 11.04.08 at 6:40 am
Erin is a Communist Shill!!! Just Sayin’…
murphy 11.04.08 at 6:40 am
Good Morning Puma Nation!
Everybody raring to go VOTE AGAINST OBAMA?!
Please do the Erin Davisson PROWL as SOON as you can and come back here and BRAG.
One more PROWL before we CELEBRATE tonight!
Patty 11.04.08 at 6:41 am
Slyt2 I hope your husband is going to back after work.
If I’m not mistaken you are in Ohio and we really need his vote.
I voted several weeks ago, boy am I glad I did.
Well I’m off to work myself and today I will be lurking during my breaks via my blackberry. I know that PUMAS will be reporting from the polls.
Patty 11.04.08 at 6:42 am
*going back to vote after work.
murphy 11.04.08 at 6:43 am
MAKE CALLS to Virginia, Colorado, Nevada or New Mexico, and especially NEW HAMPSHIRE
and PRAY for Pennsylvania.
slyt2 11.04.08 at 6:44 am
Patty Oh yes he is for sure we will just go when he gets home around 3:30 (YES I MAY HAVE TO MISS SOME OF GENERAL HOSPITAL)
normapapuma 11.04.08 at 6:44 am
Heading out to work, so won’t vote till later. Good luck everybody-especially in PA!
NewOrleansPuma 11.04.08 at 6:46 am
Murphy and Pac: Good morning all you prowling growling Pumas!
5:45am here…sun not up yet, but I am …ready to roll…
Crashed last night but on the runway today! I have a peaceful feeling…Go you Pumas…today, we reclaim our country!
DeadGirl 11.04.08 at 6:47 am
I have decided to take. the day. off… When I get back from some meetings I will vote since I suspect lines at this point, it should be better by late morning…. but I will take all day at it if I have to. I hope this BLUE STATE TURNS RED TODAY!!!
Patty 11.04.08 at 6:48 am
Murphy is this the prowl?
Erin Davisson at: tips@wfrv.com
SUBJECT: The Tingle — It BURNS!
just drop this link in:
http://pumapac.org/2008/11/04/they-just-cant-get-enough-of-that-tingle/#comments
DeadGirl 11.04.08 at 6:50 am
I hope this BLUE STATE TURNS RED TODAY!!!
Dream On Dead Girl, this is MASSACHUSETTS… home of the absent Senator Kerry who does not even bother to show his face ever and yet is re-elected every time, along with the “hero” of Chappaquiddick.
NewOrleansPuma 11.04.08 at 6:50 am
DeadGirl: Hello, DeadGirl…Good morning to you!
NewOrleansPuma 11.04.08 at 6:53 am
#160DeadGirl: Yeah..but it is also the “home” of Sam Adams, Murphy, and Dead Girl…pretty good group there!
bythelake 11.04.08 at 6:55 am
Well, good morning PUMAS for anyone but Obama!
Watching FOX and a fraud officer of 30 years in Wisconsin was told not to investigate any more fraud on voter registeration. He was told not to go to any polling places, they disbanned his unit. He quit is job over this. The story is suppose to be in a wall street paper, on the hunt for it.
This election fraud will never be cleaned up as long as a democrat is in office. I can’t take four more years of the crap we’ve been through in the last 18 months!
We NEED McCain in office and for those you who aren’t comfortable voting for him, just remember all the shit we’ve been through with ACORN, fraud, students going across state lines voting, using a bench as an address in Ohio, not needing an ID, throwing away military votes, the dead voting in Ohio and who knows where else.
I for one want things to change. That’s why my vote will be for McCain and Palin. No vote is a free pass to allow the democrats to get away with “murder” of the system that our country has fought for.
Think about it.
kevink 11.04.08 at 6:57 am
Grizzly
Your response is great!!!!!!!
TXRepGirl 11.04.08 at 6:58 am
On Obot-thuggery. This goes back to that Civilian Security Force-which never got ANY coverage at all. O has been sponsoring Obama Camps for teenagers. I believe video of one such camp with the young black men in fatigues and black T-shirts, chanting about O was posted here earlier. I heard a story about 2 months ago that several black youth showed up at school in this dress one day. Someone asked about it, and they were told, “You will see and understand after the election.”
Make NO MISTAKE O’s plan is not unity and harmony. His plan is complete disorganization and chaos. After all from the “rulebook” “Rules for Radicals” the first goal is disorganization. After you have accomplished that, you can put the pieces back together any way you like.
I’ve been praying that once O-Goliath goes down, that the evil forces will turn not on the innocent but on themselves, and that not one innocent will be harmed in the ensuing chaos. Like a prairie fire burning through the brush that chokes out good growth, I believe this evil in its various forms MUST be swept away so the good growth can flourish once more.
bythelake 11.04.08 at 6:59 am
I prowled ERIN. Hope she has a good day. She’s been pumatized!
NewOrleansPuma 11.04.08 at 6:59 am
#163bythelake: Yeah, ya “rite”….sun coming up now..in a littlewhile I will go to vote for McCain/Palin and not one Democrat….and will be very content to do so…I think, however, Landrieu will beat Kennedy….I will still punish her with my vote against her…no stand for sexism against Hillary, nothing…in the Obama tank…I will never vote for her again…Hear that Mary?
kat in your hat 11.04.08 at 7:01 am
I sent it around, and emailed her. Seems like she sent out Bill Burton’s talking points.
Ok guys. I woke up with a pounding heart. I woke up mid-dream…I was arguing with Bernadine Dorhn in my dream. She kept changing from younger to older and her walls were painted red and black. I felt angry in my dream.
Ok, I am leaving to vote in 10 minutes. I wonder if there will be a huge line? Who knows.
PUMAS!!!
VOTE!!!!!!!
Every vote counts. This might be a very close election. Who knows. Vote! Vote! Vote!
I’ll be back!
Lin4Hill 11.04.08 at 7:02 am
On my way to ROAAAARRRRRRRRRRRR a vote for McCain-Palin. I believe in all my heart that a win for that team will bring good changes on many levels…the biggest being a a huge “WTF happened!!!!” from the Democratic Party and the media. We told you we were mad. We are revolutionaries here.
MAKE SOME NOISE, PUMAS!!!!!!!!!
NewOrleansPuma 11.04.08 at 7:02 am
TexRepGirl: Good mornin…to Texas…I agree with you..Let us pray all day and far into the night, even as we prowl and continue to continue!
TXRepGirl 11.04.08 at 7:03 am
On Ohio, you must understand that Ohio went for Bush in ‘04. That means we need enough Dems to shore that up, not to overtake it. Same with VA, NC, etc. There are several states where a large Dem FLIP could well occur–PA, Michigan, and New Jersey the most probable, and California, New Hampshire and New York possible.
Every state is critical to hold from Bush: Nevada, Colorado, and New Mexico.
My prayer is we hold everything from Bush and flip at least five from blue to red as well. (Actually my prayer is 49-1 red, and no, I don’t really care which 1 is left blue.)
NewOrleansPuma 11.04.08 at 7:04 am
Goitta get ready to go vote…Be back Later..Pumas..
slyt2 11.04.08 at 7:04 am
I was channel surfing just to see what was being said and big surprise morning Joe was talking about what a mile stone it is to have the first black president. Yep talked about BO like he was already elected. Now every other sentence he would throw in “if BO is elected but most of it was first black president and Mika was gushing I swear …. BIAS A*S MEDIA (I turned the channel, no more channel surfing)…
tashacakes 11.04.08 at 7:04 am
I just sent an email to Erin. Here’s the text:
Hey Erin:
Biased much? Caught your memo sending pro-Obama
talking points to your other media buddies. Too bad
you mistakenly sent it to the person who was trying to
alert you to more Obama chicanery.
Please don’t bother to send me any more Obama talking
points. We already get it– the “Free Press”" is now
officially a wing of the Democratic Party.
Read a little history. When the free press abdicates
its responsibility, people eventually become enslaved.
Collectively, you’re all pathetic.
Signed,
Bette A. Kitik
Left of Center Pro-Choice Independent Voter
PUMA for McCain/Palin
michelina 11.04.08 at 7:04 am
Good morning PUMA’S, it’s 7:00 a.m.
up early to have my coffee, and place my vote, then will help my 6 other family members get to the polls (and anyone else who has to)—–to vote McCAIN/PALIN
I’m from NYS and the coal issue has me confused.
I like the idea of a clean environment, so why are we not against the coal issue——–of is it just the flip flopping that bothers us.
Can someone explain in “dumb” language on this to me???
Shane 11.04.08 at 7:05 am
I agree with Proud Puma Jen @140
There is no room for complacency now nor trust either, consider
what has happened in this election. If you leave the top spot
open, it could be completed for you, not the way you wish.
If you want Obama got rid off, and to help Hillary at the same
time is to vote the McCain and Palin ticket this time………
Good fortune, Shane, Ireland
TXRepGirl 11.04.08 at 7:05 am
If you want to light a virtual candle, go here:
http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=MCPAL
God bless the PUMAS!
God bless John McCain & Sarah Palin!
God bless the U.S.A.!
normapapuma 11.04.08 at 7:07 am
#163 BYTHELAKE
Did the prowl and got a robo response from NY Times. Damn. I agree-we’re going to have to get in touch with that man who quit his job and make him a celebrity…So much to do …Gotta go to work.
ontherocks 11.04.08 at 7:07 am
clintondemocrat 11.04.08 at 3:41 am
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Are you talking about Fulmer??? I am a huge VOLS fan. Have since before I was born. Most of my family on my dad’s side live in TN. Most of them are voting for McCain.!!
Oh and good morning pumas. Heads up. Spirits up. Have faith.
admin 11.04.08 at 7:09 am
kat in your hat — you’ve go mail!
New Poll, Quote of the Day, and Updated Action & Must Reads posted.
Be sure to check them out in the left sidebar.
Also — PRINT OUT and share the Puma PAC Voting Guide and Election Info that DWP and her crack team put together for EVERYONE to use!
http://www.pumapac.org/QuickResponse.html
TXRepGirl 11.04.08 at 7:12 am
If you missed it the first time, this video will get you going this wonderful morning…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1PgVLRye7o
Go John McCain & Sarah Palin!
God bless America!
TXRepGirl 11.04.08 at 7:17 am
BrianH. Exposure of the whole snake pit. I’m going to remember that! And add to your “coalition” the Black Panthers, the Black Liberation Party, the Socialist for America, and the Communists in America. A crushing defeat will send them into complete disarry–especially after they’ve been so protected by the media! I believe that the fair-minded Americans KNOW what’s going on. I believe there are MANY, MANY more fair-minded Americans than Obots and Repub-traitors. I believe that we, fair-minded Americans will take our country BACK tonight. I believe that God’s light will shine and expose all the evil that has been festering in our country since the 50’s and 60’s. I believe these festering evils will be lanched from our midst once and for all tonight!
We don’t bow to history… fair-minded, God-loving, country-loving Americans MAKE history!
GO VOTE!
God bless America!
atypical 11.04.08 at 7:17 am
I went to vote at 6Am as I have a Dr.’s appt. later this morning about 30 miles away. I wasn’t sure how long the lines would be. There were 4 election districts voting at our firehouse, about 50 people in lines when I got there. Took about 10 min. I talked to a young girl in line ahead of me and she said ” It’s getting to be like a third world country, it’s scary”. And I said, “Scary is exactly the word I was going to use”.
I talked again last night to my brother-in-law in FL. He has been to vote several times but the wait has always been too long for him. I tried to impress on him that he has to take the time.
SouthJerseyPUMA 11.04.08 at 7:23 am
CAN SOMEONE EXPLAIN TO michelina #175 WHAT SHE CANT UNDERSTAND? LIKE HOW BANKRUPTING THE COAL INDUSTRY THAT SUPPLIES 50% OF OUR ENERGY WILL BE DETRIMENTAL TO THE WORKERS THAT DEPEND ON A JOB AND FOR WHAT WE DEPEND ON IT USED FOR… AND HOW IT WILL MAKE ELECTRICITY ALMOST A LUXURY TO EVEN HAVE AS IT SKY ROCKETS IN PRICE AND WILL BE ONLY AFFORDABLE TO THE RICH! YOU JUST CANT PUT THE BREAKS ON THE INDUSTRY ON CLEANING UP.. IT WILL TAKE TIME. BUT OBAMA WANTS TO DO IT AND IF THE COMPANY CANT DO IT IMMEDIATELY THEY WILL BE FINED SO HEAVY, THEY WILL GO BANKRUPT!!! @#$%#@#$%!!!!
atypical 11.04.08 at 7:24 am
I don’t like that there is no “All of the above” for today’s poll.
greenfun 11.04.08 at 7:27 am
Good morning pumas!
Finally-
I’m up early here west coast time 420am. Working the polls today at 6am. There will be no cheating-a go-go at my polling place. Below is a McCain # to call if you witness any irregularities.
The McCain-Palin campaign launched the Honest and Open Election hotline to help citizens learn the location of their polling place, as well as report any instances of irregularities at the polls, including voter fraud, intimidation, violence and electioneering. The hotline can be accessed via phone at:
866-976-VOTE.
Notyoursweetie 11.04.08 at 7:29 am
Sure they were taken out of context. The context was: the electricity prices will necessarily skyrocket – and send us price signals that scared Biden to death
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/11/03/all-latest-obama-revelations-in-one-single-idea/
murphy 11.04.08 at 7:30 am
VOTE posted.
take it upstairs!
TXRepGirl 11.04.08 at 7:31 am
michaela #175. The coal issue is simple.
50% of all electricity in the US is generated by COAL PlANTS. Another 20% is generated by nuclear. So if BO taxes the coal industry into oblivion (which is what his statement means), this will not only take out the coal industry which is a BILLION dollar industry (that means jobs and businesses go POOF!), it also means there is no viable way for us to reproduce the energy that will be lost.
Further, our next TWO by percentages generation sources are: Nuclear (which BO has pledged to not grow AT ALL until “we find ways to deal with the waste” and Natural Gas, which is actually far MORE “dirty” than coal but has no viable means of increasing output in the short term).
THAT MEANS that if he bankrupts the coal industry, YOU WILL BE SITTING IN THE DARK AND THE COLD because there will be rolling black-outs and in many areas NO electricity.
THAT’S why this is important!
And don’t just “understand” this, SPREAD THE WORD! It’s crucial.
(I believe his ultimate plan is to raise our energy bills so high–”skyrocket them” as he says in that video to the point that our economy collapses (that was the STATED GOAL of the Alinsky-Ayers connection). This would bring about a severe depression. Think $1,000 for a loaf of bread. Remember what prices of EVERYTHING did when gas went up over the summer? Yeah, like that–except much deeper and wider.)
Hope that answers your question.
michelina 11.04.08 at 7:31 am
Thanks Sjersy: You guys got it going on over there,
Sometimes they talk as if everyone understands what their sayinng: That’s why I got you guys,
Time for the shower and the Polls,
will be back
ontherocks 11.04.08 at 7:32 am
I am going to vote this morning, then go to an appointment. I will be going back to my polling place to see how long the lines are and see if I can do my own exit polling.
I live in CT, which I am sure will go to THATONE, but I live in a an area that is full of military people. We shall see.
Below are a couple of sites that interactive sites.
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http://elections.foxnews.com/states_map/index.html
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http://www.270towin.com/
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http://www.pbs.org/vote2008/moreinfo/electionmaps.html
BrianH 11.04.08 at 7:42 am
michelina 11.04.08 at 7:04 am
Good morning PUMA’S, it’s 7:00 a.m.
up early to have my coffee, and place my vote, then will help my 6 other family members get to the polls (and anyone else who has to)—–to vote McCAIN/PALIN
I’m from NYS and the coal issue has me confused.
I like the idea of a clean environment, so why are we not against the coal issue——–of is it just the flip flopping that bothers us.
Can someone explain in “dumb” language on this to me???//
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There are degrees of clean. Some methods of processing and burning coal and capturing the gasses cut the environmental impact quite a bit; this is called “clean coal”.
Coal happens to be very abundant and cheap, and will necessarily be used in some way till a major change in energy technology occurs.
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Just to let you know, I happen to believe that a little research company called Lawrenceville Plasma Physics in NJ has a workable basic design oaf a radiation waste-free generator which could start production in less than a decade. It will provide electricity at ¼¢ per KWH, which is probably about 1/20th of what you pay now. This will rather quickly end use of coal and oil and natural gas as generating methods, and even hydro power will go. They’re all vastly more expensive to build and run.
BrianH 11.04.08 at 7:44 am
err: “design of a radiation-waste free fusion generator”
1gypsy4mc 11.04.08 at 7:45 am
murphy I got another email from Erin Davisson and I haven’t even sent one back to her!! First of all, I never asked for her name – the email was opened by her:
Dear Puma,
You asked my name, but you did not supply your own, so I hope you don’t mind if I continue to call you Puma.
Could you just indicate whether you understand now what happened? Your e-mail goes into a newsgroup that goes to all the reporters in the newsroom. I took that e-mail, and copied another letter of an opposing viewpoint and meant to save it in draft so that I would have viewpoints on both sides in one document. Instead, in my haste, I pressed send instead of save, and it went out to everyone. I immediately let you know that it was sent in error. You sent back a note demanding to know who I was – which I thought perhaps was rhetorical, since my name was clearly on my e-mail. In the meantime, we had breaking news – a possible murder — and I had other duties to attend to. I came back to the letter to see that you’d already written.
You should know my “answer” is not written by me, but was in a comment copied from the US. News and World Report. So please make sure you don’t attribute it to me. http://www.usnews.com/blogs/sam-dealey/2008/11/03/the-mccain-campaigns-incompetence-about-barack-obamas-war-on-coal-fired-power-plants.html
It was only meant to supply me opposing viewpoints as background for election day.
Thanks for writing. I’m glad that you are so passionate about your viewpoint. We need more involved citizens to make our country great.
Sincerely,
Erin Davisson
tashacakes 11.04.08 at 7:50 am
HELP!!
Can anyone tell me out to edit my post so I can take my name out? I’ve become a little paranoid that an Obot may target me for my criticism of the Evil One.
Notyoursweetie 11.04.08 at 7:57 am
Re: voting options
DO NOT WRITE HILLARY IN!
Lynette Long said Hillary specifically asked us that!
besides, in some states (Florida) it will be counted as a vote for Obama
1gypsy4mc 11.04.08 at 7:57 am
Murphy This was my response to her/them last evening:
Dear Sirs/Madam:
I did NOT send this email to Erin Davisson. I don’t appreciate you passing on my email address instead of replying to me yourselves. I am NOT “Joe the Plumber”, I am a concerned citizen! And where did you get the tape? Holding it back from the U. S. Citizens? Looks like I need to forward YOUR answer on to some of my “friends”. How long have YOU known about the tape?
Thank you so very much, but I voted “before” this tape became public. McCain/Palin will be a powerful team!. Make sure you “vote your conscience, because I voted for my country!”
I am a PROUD PUMA!! By the way, I am not a Republican either!
God Bless You and God Bless America!!
Hillgirl 11.04.08 at 7:59 am
Hello, Pumas,
Well, I am happy to report that I just voted here in Philadelphia. I was surrounded by Obamabots, but I cast my vote for McCain/Palin. I was so happy to do it. The voting place seemed well supervised, fair, and working smoothly. Thank you PUMAs for your courage, vision, and commitment. You have been an oasis and a refuge from the psychosis sweeping our country. I know that many consider us the crazy ones, but remember, those who are on the lunatic fringe are the true visionaries.
henry 11.04.08 at 8:02 am
My I ask where in Philly?
lilibet 11.04.08 at 8:21 am
Good Morning, everyone.
I just came on a few minutes ago and resolved not to turn on the TV as I want to remain as calm as possible today. I already sent off the Email to Erin Davisson, somewhat late as I see you started it last night. But then, that might be good because it will spread it out a little and possibly be more effective.
ONEOFAMILLION put me in tears with her song , so early in the morning. (It’s only seven here.)
I’ll be getting my news here throughout the day.
judy-b 11.04.08 at 8:39 am
GOOD MORNING PUMAS, WAS UP AT 4:30 THIS MORNING. HUBBY AND I WENT TO THE POLLS AT 6:00 AM. PLACE WAS PACKED. WE BOTH CAST OUR VOTES FOR MCCAIN AND PALIN. PEOPLE WERE LINED UP FOR A LONG WAY OUTSIDE AND AROUND THE POLLING STATION. I’M IN OHIO WILL BE A BIG TURNOUT TODAY. GOOOOOOOOOOO MCCAIN PALIN.
mijabsnji 11.04.08 at 8:41 am
I voted! By By obama! The paper said we could wear anything so I wore my Hillary suporters for McCain shirt. Saw one no name shirt yuck, go John!
mijabsnji 11.04.08 at 8:44 am
I’m nervous but convinced John will win, this is a nail biter!
mijabsnji 11.04.08 at 8:48 am
FOX is showing dumb dumb voting, taking forever with his kid beside him jumping all over!
drhollowell 11.04.08 at 8:48 am
Here’s news from VA – I was at the polls at 5:30. It was raining hard and there was a long line that waded into deep thick mud. There was a palpable fervor for BO. It took about an hour+ to vote but as I waited in line the fervor was visibly replaced by the silent, steadfast and resolved. I heard one say “it may be a blowout for O but I will nonetheless vote.” My husband and I played tag-team (kids you know). He said when he arrived the fervor was entirely gone. All that to say – be steadfast! Believe in the victory of the powerful prowl. ROARRRR!
mijabsnji 11.04.08 at 8:49 am
I can’t take it, fox is all obama today
mijabsnji 11.04.08 at 8:50 am
They said last night this could end 269 to 269 !
judy-b 11.04.08 at 8:52 am
HERE I AM AGAIN. JUST HEARD ON FOX THAT THE CITY I LIVE IN (TOLEDO OHIO) HAS PREPARED THE CITY POLICE AND SHERRIFS DEPT WITH RIOT GEAR. I HEARD THIS LAST WEEK FROM A DEPUTY HERE, BUT NEVER ANTICIPATED ANY THING LIKE THIS. TAKE CARE EVERYONE, BE SAFE OUT THERE TODAY.
ladyhawkke 11.04.08 at 10:11 am
#4MURPHY Did my prowls about the tingle to all the media and to Erin. PUMAS, KEEP THE FAITH!!! WE CAN DO THIS! WE WILL DO THIS!!
I voted absentee a couple of weeks ago. The elections officer in my country runs a tight ship and I don’t foresee any problems here. Where I do see problems would be in Miami where I’m originally from, dead people voting all the time and now with ACORN, no telling. I think there will be many lawsuits filed in the aftermath of this farce perpetrated upon the American people by an unknown community organizer who, by the way, happens to be black.
ladyhawkke 11.04.08 at 10:11 am
County instead of country
notfollowinthepiedpiper 11.04.08 at 10:22 am
ANOTHER REASON TO JUST BITE THE BULLET AND VOTE STRAIGHT REPUBLICAN: Warning: This one’s scary
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/09/09/map.tie.scenarios/index.html?eref=ib_topstories
iowaguy 11.04.08 at 10:34 am
I work in the electric utility business. Make no mistake, rates are going up, with or w/o BO as president. Transportation costs for coal are through the roof.
If JM is elected, rates are projected to go up 20-30%.
If BO is elected, we are estimating a doubling (100% increase) in electric rates within three years, due to regulations. Some of these regulations have already started creeping in place.
We currently sell electricity for around $.08/kWh. We are projecting our rates to be close to $.15/kWh in the next three years, due mainly to increased environmental regulations if BO is elected. Summer electric bills for homes here in Iowa where we have three months of air conditioning are projected to go from around $120 to $220.
The electric companies throughout the US have been fairly diligent about pointing this out, but until people see it happen, they won’t believe it.
bythelake 11.04.08 at 10:37 am
OH forgot; MESSAGE BACK FROM ERIN!
HI Debbie,
Thanks for writing. I honestly never meant to respond to you at all – was simple pasting opposing viewpoints in a letter meant to save as a draft for background purposes.
We’ll let the voters decide today!
Take care,
ERin
edavisson 11.04.08 at 12:06 pm
Hello Everyone!
It’s the infamous Erin Davisson. I don’t have a lot of time for rebuttal, since I’ve got to get ready for work, and I’ve been dealing with this all morning.
First, I did not write those comments. Secondly, I did not mean those comments to be used as a reply, only to save as a draft for myself. It was not put together in letter form, just a conglomeration that wasn’t meant to be seen by anyone but me. Simply a draft.
Thirdly, this was all explained to your representative last night, so I’m not sure what happened here. My mother is in alignment with the Puma viewpoint, so I certainly don’t have an axe to grind with you folks. Here is my letter last night, explaining things to the person who must be responsible for all this.
“Dear Puma,
You asked my name, but you did not supply your own, so I hope you don’t mind if I continue to call you Puma.
Could you just indicate whether you understand now what happened? Your e-mail goes into a newsgroup that goes to all the reporters in the newsroom. I took that e-mail, and copied another letter of an opposing viewpoint and meant to save it in draft so that I would have viewpoints on both sides in one document. Instead, in my haste, I pressed send instead of save, and it went out to everyone. I immediately let you know that it was sent in error. You sent back a note demanding to know who I was – which I thought perhaps was rhetorical, since my name was clearly on my e-mail. In the meantime, we had breaking news – a possible murder — and I had other duties to attend to. I came back to the letter to see that you’d already written.
You should know my “answer” is not written by me, but was in a comment copied from the US. News and World Report. So please make sure you don’t attribute it to me. http://www.usnews.com/blogs/sam-dealey/2008/11/03/the-mccain-campaigns-incompetence-about-barack-obamas-war-on-coal-fired-power-plants.html
It was only meant to supply me opposing viewpoints as background for election day.
Thanks for writing. I’m glad that you are so passionate about your viewpoint. We need more involved citizens to make our country great.
Sincerely,
Erin Davisson”
If you would like to continue to write to me, please send it to my e-mail address, erin.davisson@wfrv.com.
Thank you very much, and let’s get out and vote!
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