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jallen0347 11.04.08 at 8:57 pm
Me#1
ontherocks 11.04.08 at 8:59 pm
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ontherocks 11.04.08 at 8:58 pm
I turned the TV over to my son. Until we at least 80% of the poll locations in each state reporting then we have no reason to panic or be nervous.
Sit back have a drink. Hug your family. Pet the dog/cat/turtle/snake etc. Blog with your puma pals!
You guys/gals ROCK!!!
DeadGirl 11.04.08 at 8:59 pm
PUMA, PULL YOURSELF TOGETHER
alohapuma 11.04.08 at 8:59 pm
thanks murphy
Rabblerouser 11.04.08 at 8:59 pm
What am I?
mick 11.04.08 at 9:00 pm
michelle47 11.04.08 at 8:50 pm
HOW MANY OF YOU WROTE PROTEST LETTERS TO THE MEDIA DUE TO THEIR BIAS…HUNDREDS, THOUSANDS AND YET THE VERY PEOPLE YOU WERE RAILING AGAINST FOR THEIR ANTICS ARE NOW FULL OF WISDOM. I THINK NOT, YOU DID NOT LIKE THE FACT THAT THEY WERE FEEDING THE AMERICAN PEOPLE SHIT YET YOU ARE WILLING TO EAT THAT VERY SHIT YOURSELVES….GET IT TOGETHER, THEY HAVE BEEN TRYING TO INFLUENCE THIS ELECTION FROM DAY ONE, DO YOU REALLY BELIEVE THEY WILL STOP NOW…NO, NO AND NO. IT IS TO EARLY, RELAX, YOU ARE HELPING NO ONE HERE WITH THIS NEGATIVITY. THIS IS NOT OVER! NOT BY A LONGSHOT!
freddiebrown 11.04.08 at 9:00 pm
PA doesn’t look good for McCain
Rabblerouser 11.04.08 at 9:00 pm
5 is ok
antifish 11.04.08 at 9:00 pm
Are we all falling apart here? As I said downstairs, on my way home the radio said McCain won GA.
wewillwin 11.04.08 at 9:01 pm
antifish
That is great news…
mick 11.04.08 at 9:02 pm
michelle47 #674
AMEN and thank you.
Now PUMAs relax, have a drink, listen to some more Queen.
“Killer PUMA!”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMz-wi50ACU
BigCatLover 11.04.08 at 9:02 pm
fox called Ohio for BO, then uncalled it.
Rabblerouser 11.04.08 at 9:02 pm
I think the media is in fact manipulating us (surprise, surprise). I’m not watching anything related to the election until after the actual tallies come in.
mick 11.04.08 at 9:03 pm
freddiebrown,
Don’t worry, they called it based on exit polls.
Mac will win PA.
KarenWI 11.04.08 at 9:03 pm
Fox called OH for BO then changed their mind and didn’t call it (yet)… boy I’d hate to see FL go to BO because of too many puma’s who couldn’t pull the lever for McCain so they voted 3rd party……
ontherocks 11.04.08 at 9:03 pm
BigCatLover 11.04.08 at 9:02 pm
fox called Ohio for BO, then uncalled it.
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HAHAHA!!
alohapuma 11.04.08 at 9:03 pm
Georgia looks very good for McCain. Showing McCain at 72% with 62% reporting. It looks very good.
wewillwin 11.04.08 at 9:03 pm
BigCatLover
Really?? Things looking better for McCain in Ohio? Please say yes…… (and mean it)
justnotright 11.04.08 at 9:03 pm
7 freddiebrown
Hold your horses, let them count the votes for crissakes. I’ll tell you if and when PA doesn’t look good for McCain… In only one scenario and only one – When the vote tally says “100%” and the numbers are not in our favor. But I’m not willing to concede that, not by a longshot.
BigCatLover 11.04.08 at 9:03 pm
mick 11.04.08 at 9:00 pm
michelle47 11.04.08 at 8:50 pm
Not eating sh*t – just reporting what media is saying.
KarenWI 11.04.08 at 9:04 pm
Did I hear that Fox called MI for Obama? Good grief! After what Obama pulled on them and they vote for him??????
mick 11.04.08 at 9:04 pm
KarenWI
See. That’s what I mean. It’s still too early.
bythelake 11.04.08 at 9:04 pm
oh me oh my ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
i’m waiting until the numbers are all in………
ohio and florida are yet to tip the scale for that one…………
BigCatLover 11.04.08 at 9:04 pm
wewillwin
They said they may have put the checkmark in the wrong place?
bythelake 11.04.08 at 9:05 pm
that axlerod dude needs to pluck his eyebrows.
jenniforhillary 11.04.08 at 9:06 pm
TEXAS pumas here….we are guzzling NONalcholic beer and SCREAMING at the TV!!
I cannot take it…honestly, this is TORTURE!! I want someone to knock me out and wake me up when we win!
Please god let us win….PLEASE GOD!!
wewillwin 11.04.08 at 9:06 pm
BigCatLover
oh goodgrief…..this is soooooooo nerveracking. ughhhhh
NativeFlower 11.04.08 at 9:06 pm
gosh, that image reminds me how much i want a new sewing machine
anyway, Ronan …what did that guy mean by you were “suppose” to vote early???? was he an Ass? cuz he sounds like an Ass.
you vote at the very last minute before the poll closes on Nov 4 if you want to god#$%it !!!
mick 11.04.08 at 9:06 pm
BigCatLover
Yes, you are. But many others are falling apart already.
freddiebrown 11.04.08 at 9:07 pm
I am taking my mind off…. I am sewing a hole in my right sock ! Big hole in the toe !
mountainsong 11.04.08 at 9:07 pm
Why doesn’t MSM just go ahead and declare BO the winner. Oh!! That’s right! That’s what they’ve been saying for 10 months. Silly me. This is all SUCH a farce. I can’t believe grownups actually pay attention to it. Oh, yeah. Just have a drink. Get drunk. That’ll fix it. Until tomorrow morning.
Lord, where is the Love?
This thing is all about black and white. Has been since this campaign season began. Takes our minds off the fact that this country is going down the shitter.
But it’s not making a damn thing better. SOS DD.
We better all get over it and help each other make it thru each day….
And forget MSM.
jenniforhillary 11.04.08 at 9:07 pm
Ario, Freddie, Asian….
we’re going to win arent’ we???
Flasunshiner 11.04.08 at 9:08 pm
Fox is all over the place with the electoral votes. They had barry at 200, then retracted…now at 163.
Sheesh.
wewillwin 11.04.08 at 9:09 pm
what is mccains EV?
ck 11.04.08 at 9:09 pm
#13 Rabblerouser — Very wise decision. One can only urge other PUMAs to do likewise. The media has made a WWE-style slugfest out of this election season from the outset. Why would any intelligent, sane person believe they would behave any differently tonight??? After all, they get viewers/ratings/ad dollars (e.g. money) by doing so, that is, by psychologically manipulating us. The only numbers that matter are the actual final tallies. Till then, let’s chill. Personally, I’m having a glass or two of wine and contemplating all the good that PUMAs continue to do.
kat in your hat 11.04.08 at 9:09 pm
Karen: MI was going to go Obama. There’s a corrupt engine there. Kwame Kilpatrick…Dearborn…don’t wanna get into it, but Ayers and Wright, et al have a lot of influence in MI, and they are hurting there. Might have fallen for this faux economy savior bit.
So far the map still looks traditional. Like I said earlier, it’s up to the republicans, the Hillary voters/ pumas have come out.
NativeFlower 11.04.08 at 9:09 pm
JenniferforHillary, say a prayer honey
say it with all your heart
some of us have done so earlier. it helps
God doesn’t burden us with more than we can handle
jenniforhillary 11.04.08 at 9:09 pm
Mountain…
yes, and HELL YES!
jessiegirl 11.04.08 at 9:09 pm
How many electoral votes does Mccain have? I can’t bear to look at the maps!
michelle47 11.04.08 at 9:10 pm
Paddyboy wrote the last post downstairs, so to you dear sweet paddy boy I say FUCK YOU……………Also if you have a job which is highly unlikely and you worked for me I would kick your moronic ass out the door, but hey then you could live on your 500.00 dollar yearly check you piece of shit! Get lost, the lying bastard has not won yet……
jenniforhillary 11.04.08 at 9:10 pm
i’ve been praying for a year, and THAT ONE cannot win because my heart cannot bear it…
justnotright 11.04.08 at 9:10 pm
Fox reporting: McCain campaign protesting networks calling PA for Obama
onebigmac 11.04.08 at 9:10 pm
msm trying to influence western staes polls which are still open esp nev,nm,colo
mountainsong 11.04.08 at 9:11 pm
Wasn’t it Einstein who said the definition of insanity is doing the same things over and over…..expecting different result?
snowtiger007 11.04.08 at 9:11 pm
I will say it again.
last cycle these exit polls were off by 16%
If they have improved to the point where they are “only” off by 5% McCAin takes ALL these close states including PA. Now , get a grip people.
The media has been in the tank for Carpathia all along. Do you believe tonight will be any different?
Oh and do you think they have improved their exits polls all the way to “Just” 5%?
C’mon.
freddiebrown 11.04.08 at 9:11 pm
jenniforhillary -
WE WILL ALWAYS WIN BECAUSE OUR HEARTS AND MINDS ARE IN THE RIGHT PLACE. WE DID NOT SELL OUT. WE KNOW RIGHT FROM WRONG.
GOOD AND EVIL. WE LOVE OUR COUNTRY.
KarenWI 11.04.08 at 9:12 pm
68 Latinos in NM to Obama and 31 to Mac.. so says Fox from the exit polls…. I thought 70% of Latinos were going to Mac??
jessiegirl 11.04.08 at 9:12 pm
Good for them. (Mccain I mean) PA can’t go for the clown. If Obama wins…and I pray he doesn’t, I will not call him my president. He will be known to me as Nobama.
SouthernGAL68 11.04.08 at 9:12 pm
Hey Mountainsong,
I keep hearing info. on the news and start freaking out! How r U tonight! I need to go for a jog or find myself something to do …. stay busy!
IndyBoomer 11.04.08 at 9:12 pm
New Mexico PUMAs only 12% of votes, according to Fox.
KarenWI 11.04.08 at 9:12 pm
87% Hill supporters in NM to Obama according to Fox
Ario 11.04.08 at 9:13 pm
lol im trying my hardest to pull it together
NativeFlower 11.04.08 at 9:13 pm
freddiebrown, i am jealous
i have so many cool cozy socks with “air conditioning” that i look at from time to time and go “someday i’ll fix you”
lol
SouthernGAL68 11.04.08 at 9:13 pm
Why do the keep saying that the PUMA”S – 87% went for OB in New MEX? Is it a snub to us?
snowtiger007 11.04.08 at 9:13 pm
KarenWI 11.04.08 at 9:12 pm
87% Hill supporters in NM to Obama according to Fox
And how many are claiming they supported Hillary who didn’t?
Asian4Hillary 11.04.08 at 9:13 pm
You all calm down now while I make my coffee. I should be there at the party right now (hotel) but I choose to be with you all.
ontherocks 11.04.08 at 9:13 pm
People, please lets relax a bit. Take a deep breath. It is not over.
Ario 11.04.08 at 9:14 pm
oh i will never ever call him my president
KarenWI 11.04.08 at 9:14 pm
My prediction is this… IF Obama wins then he will be the last POTUS. I am dead serious about this. Israel will attack Iran because they will know that they are (for the first time) all alone; and then the Muslim nations will declare war on Israel and America will stand with them (because of the darned Obama), and that will be the start of Armagheddon (sp?)…
SouthernGAL68 11.04.08 at 9:15 pm
Hello Snowtiger007 – You hanging in there?
ck 11.04.08 at 9:15 pm
PUMAs, if you need a way to release the tension, please consider making calls to people in AZ, CA, CO, NM, NV and urging them to vote if they haven’t yet. You can still make a difference there. Otherwise, please chill out until the final tallies. Do not allow the media to deliberately manipulate you onto their psychological/emotional roller coaster. They can only do that if you let them.
onebigmac 11.04.08 at 9:15 pm
latinos were caught between a rock and a hard place.. they supported hillary 2 or 3 to 1 over obama in the primaries..but mac or the GOP didnt make an overt attempt to go after their votes because of the tancredo wing of the GOP..so latinos have bit the bullet and voted democratic and that means obama
snowtiger007 11.04.08 at 9:15 pm
And remember people, urban centers ALWAYS report first.
scarlet 11.04.08 at 9:16 pm
ELECTION RETURNS FOR PA
http://www.electionreturns.state.pa.us/ElectionsInformation.aspx?FunctionID=15&ElectionID=28&OfficeID=1#Westmoreland
KarenWI 11.04.08 at 9:16 pm
They are making a point of saying how many Hill supporters voted for Obama to show that they did NOT abandon the dem party as the dems feared they would. WHERE ARE ALL THE PUMA’S???
Ario 11.04.08 at 9:16 pm
karen
if he wins i hope the media shows all those crazy muslims shooting guns and dancing in the street
karen also i agree with u
jallen0347 11.04.08 at 9:17 pm
KarenWI 11.04.08 at 9:04 pm
Did I hear that Fox called MI for Obama? Good grief! After what Obama pulled on them and they vote for him??????
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I doubt it they have McCain @52%
Obama @ 46%
kat in your hat 11.04.08 at 9:17 pm
Chill. Doe doe heads. This is still a very traditional map. Middle land will flame red, as usual.
jessiegirl 11.04.08 at 9:17 pm
Looks to me that PA has a lot of Mccain supporters. WTH?
Lorelai 11.04.08 at 9:17 pm
Where’s the link to blog talk radio?
snowtiger007 11.04.08 at 9:17 pm
SouthernGAL68
Hiya. Now that I am back in the den I am. Got knocked off earlier. Had to watch the damn news. Lol.
I just kept reminding myself
I am a PUMA.
I am A PUMA.
AND WE ARE GOING TO WIN THIS! THE MEDIA HAS LIED ALL YEAR AND THEY WILL CONTINUE TO DO SO TONIGHT!
zrusilla 11.04.08 at 9:18 pm
This Electoral College has gotten on my last nerve. When are we going to direct universal suffrage for our President??
ontherocks 11.04.08 at 9:18 pm
Ohio 8% reporting
O: 57%
M: 41%
PA 7 % reporting
O: 65%
M: 34%
NoObo 11.04.08 at 9:18 pm
Team Sarah needs some Puma love….They need their spirits raised.
http://www.teamsarah.org/
zrusilla 11.04.08 at 9:18 pm
My understanding is that urban centers report last…?
thecatsmeow 11.04.08 at 9:18 pm
Hi Karen! Think about those numbers. How does anyone know how many former Hillary supporters went for BO? Peace out, sister!
kat in your hat 11.04.08 at 9:18 pm
Lorelai: look left and up.
murphy 11.04.08 at 9:18 pm
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/no-we-wont
call in now 1 347 539 5420
KarenWI 11.04.08 at 9:18 pm
Now Fox HAS called OH for BO
BigCatLover 11.04.08 at 9:18 pm
Fox calling Ohio for Obama again.
TrishfromCanada 11.04.08 at 9:18 pm
On the radio they had a call-in program for Americans and there were 7 undecided voters called in, 5 voted for McCain and 2 for Obama.
justnotright 11.04.08 at 9:19 pm
What we are witnessing is the media’s last ditch effort to influence this election.
Keep the faith!!! Keep calling voters out West, maybe you will find a voter who gave up waiting on line because they heard the early results and they will go back on line if they can be convinced it is all a ploy.
NObamaDem 11.04.08 at 9:19 pm
Hey! There’s a Bot loose downstairs. What the frig!
newman 11.04.08 at 9:19 pm
I just worked 8 hours in my rural PA poll. The turnout was HUGE, and not all Republican, either. So I’d venture to say that the exit polls are not entirely wrong.
wewillwin 11.04.08 at 9:19 pm
Fox projected Obama for Ohio.9% reporting I think
snowtiger007 11.04.08 at 9:19 pm
KarenWI
That is according to exit polls. Means nothing. You can tell the poll takers anyhting you want.
jallen0347 11.04.08 at 9:19 pm
I hope to helll McCain picks up California
bythelake 11.04.08 at 9:19 pm
okay, i’m sick
they are calling ohio for bozo
jenniforhillary 11.04.08 at 9:19 pm
Freddie,
you are making me cry right now. I don’t want a moral victory–I live moral victories….I want an ACTUAL VICTORY!!!
HiHat 11.04.08 at 9:19 pm
There MUST be a LAW enacted to STOP the Media from calling elections based on Exit Polling.
It’s ridiculous.
natkar76 11.04.08 at 9:20 pm
Stupid FOX!!!
wewillwin 11.04.08 at 9:20 pm
I just can’t believe this….
NObamaDem 11.04.08 at 9:20 pm
Murphy!
There’s a Bot loose downstairs.
SouthernGAL68 11.04.08 at 9:21 pm
true Snowtiger007
snowtiger007 11.04.08 at 9:21 pm
newman
Not a question of being entirely wrong, question is are the entirely right?
They blew it by 16% last time. How far have they blown it this time?
justnotright 11.04.08 at 9:21 pm
64 scarlet
THANK YOU. Bonafide results are ALL I am listening to. NO PROJECTIONS and NO EXIT POLLS.
jallen0347 11.04.08 at 9:22 pm
the popular vote is Obama 50% to McCain49%
Casper Cat 11.04.08 at 9:22 pm
ATTENTION..ATTENTION…ALERT..ALERT…REQUESTING ALL PUMA’S TO STAY FOCUSED ON OUR PRIMARY GOAL…MCCain will WIN..PLEASE USE ALL OF YOUR ENERGY TO BE POSITIVE AND FOCUS ON THE BIG WIN….. REMEMBER, LIGHTING CANDLES FOR HILLARY…SAMETHING..
KarenWI 11.04.08 at 9:22 pm
I am all mixed up. Now it’s showing FL
BO 51
MC 48
Other 0
Downstairs they were showing 18% for “other”.. ????
wewillwin 11.04.08 at 9:22 pm
jallen0347 #97
Where?
SouthernGAL68 11.04.08 at 9:22 pm
who is it Murphy? Name he/she is using??
KarenWI 11.04.08 at 9:24 pm
I sure hope McCain doesn’t give a concession phone call and/or concession speech before all the REAL VOTES are added up…..
Taurus08 11.04.08 at 9:24 pm
I, for one, cannot believe the numbers coming out of PA, OH, and FL. I thought for sure McCain would take these states. It appears that white women are helping Obama in PA. I guess they all got a tingle up their legs. Surprised at the low number of Pumas in New Mexico that voted for Obama. We can only hope! Brit Hume on Fox seems to make a lot of errors.
Fightforfreedom 11.04.08 at 9:24 pm
in tears-moving family to Canada.
ontherocks 11.04.08 at 9:24 pm
I am using the map on msn to look up each state, then county.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25361792
Look at FL.
iguessimapuma 11.04.08 at 9:25 pm
i don’t understand. how can fox project that obama will win ohio when only 9% of the polls have reported? why make such a definitive statement like that?
SouthernGAL68 11.04.08 at 9:25 pm
Hello CasperCat – can you tell alot of us are nervous? That obvious hu?
NoObo 11.04.08 at 9:25 pm
12% precincts reporting…Media is calling OH for Obama….
I’m gonna be sick
snowtiger007 11.04.08 at 9:25 pm
KarenWI
He won’t. All along he said not to listen to the exit polling.
jallen0347 11.04.08 at 9:25 pm
# 100 wewillwin 11.04.08 at 9:22 pm
jallen0347 #97
Where?
By the Fox talley they pop up now and then on the bottom of their screen, I’m thinking nation wide…
mick 11.04.08 at 9:25 pm
I’m out of here for a while. I can’t handle all of the blow by blow media coverage on here …. I have the TV off so I won’t hear all of the exit poll crap, but why bother when it’s being posted here.
Maybe I’ll go mess with the Obot downstairs before I go.
murphy 11.04.08 at 9:25 pm
bye Paddy
struck down by the light of NOP’s Holy Spirit Hit List ZAPPER!
wewillwin 11.04.08 at 9:26 pm
What are the actual votes for McCain in Florida and Ohio? Actual % reporting?
snowtiger007 11.04.08 at 9:26 pm
Does anyone know off hand how much of a difference there was between what carpathia polled and actually got? I know he consistently did poorer at the final tally than the polls said he would.
NoObo 11.04.08 at 9:27 pm
12% reporting for Ohio
TrishfromCanada 11.04.08 at 9:27 pm
On yahoo for MD they have Bo and McCain tied at 49% yet they’ve declared Bo the winner lol, idiots, as bad as my math is, even I know a tie when i see one
ontherocks 11.04.08 at 9:27 pm
OH is making me mad.
11% reporting in.
Come on OHIO you can do this.
Anna7000 11.04.08 at 9:28 pm
At this point, this is like playing a game to draw it out. The western most states, alone (Hawaii, California, Oregon and Washington) are going to hand Obama over 100 electoral votes. I’m sorry, but this seems like needless torture. McCain will continue to get small states and the map will start to look impressively red, but they are not big electoral vote states.
BTW, where’s Dances, Trish, Texas, ladyhawkke, etc, etc, etc?
I’m going to go finish up making calls in CA…
jallen0347 11.04.08 at 9:28 pm
National Popular vote Obama 50%
McCain 49%
wewillwin 11.04.08 at 9:28 pm
I was so sure earlier that McCain would Win….
I hope these numbers start changing soon.
bythelake 11.04.08 at 9:28 pm
*************************ALERT***********************
Cleveland Ohio news report, not a SINGLE vote in the biggest county in OHIO hasn’t even been counted yet. They are still waiting for them to arrive and can’t understand why the news is reporting Obama a winner! Fancy that.
ontherocks 11.04.08 at 9:29 pm
wewillwin 11.04.08 at 9:26 pm
What are the actual votes for McCain in Florida and Ohio? Actual % reporting?
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Try this map:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25361792
newman 11.04.08 at 9:29 pm
Word on street here in PA is that Rendell basically scammed McCain, and made up all this drama that somehow the race was “close” here so McCain would dump all his money in PA. PA has not gone red in 25 years, and he knows it.
slyt2 11.04.08 at 9:30 pm
51% to 48% in florida obama up and Ohio is 55% to 43% for Obama wewillwin
TrishfromCanada 11.04.08 at 9:31 pm
wewillwin
McCain will win! I added up the electoral counts for the states he is leading in (note they declare Bo with 0%, so I’m declaring McCain on the same basis, and it gives McCain 170, that does not include places west of texas.
jallen0347 11.04.08 at 9:31 pm
Pennsylvania 23%
0–66
M –33
They still have 67% to tally Thbis is still up for grabs
bythelake 11.04.08 at 9:32 pm
These news stations need to be blocked off air until all votes are counted, no more projecting, it’s a pile of poop.
NObamaDem 11.04.08 at 9:32 pm
murphy 11.04.08 at 9:25 pm
bye Paddy
struck down by the light of NOP’s Holy Spirit Hit List ZAPPER!
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Oh thank you Murphy! That one was like one of those gnats that always tries to fly up your nose.
Mapleleaf 11.04.08 at 9:32 pm
Biting my nails…how can they even begin to “call” OH & PA with hardly any precincts reported in? Where can we find out the results by precinct in PA?
wewillwin 11.04.08 at 9:32 pm
TrishfromCanada
I hope you are right, but this looking bad from what I am seeing. Florida looks so close….please Florida pull McCain through…
BigCatLover 11.04.08 at 9:32 pm
Louisiana called for McCain/
hillary2008 11.04.08 at 9:32 pm
To Paddyboy and all the lurking bots
I feel for you, I do. There was a women on the tellie earlier that said Barack will help me pay my mortgage and my gas. Dear little bots, Barry will help you with nothing. It is so sad really. Barry helps Barry. That is all, Bye now, back to Dexter.
HiHat 11.04.08 at 9:32 pm
Trish, 270 needed to win.
Fightforfreedom 11.04.08 at 9:32 pm
I CANNOT Believe Pennsylvania will go to
that one! The remarks he made about the
coal industry should be enough to
show his true colors. GOD help AMERICA!
ontherocks 11.04.08 at 9:33 pm
MI 10% reporting
M: 50%
O: 48% and they called MI for O
thatswhattimeitis 11.04.08 at 9:33 pm
OMG CNN is INSANE!!
They called Michigan for BO and McCain had the lead!!
I don’t know what numbers are screwed up where, but it said BO had 200687 votes (48%), McCain had 211603 (50%) and colored the state in blue??
HUH????
SouthernGAL68 11.04.08 at 9:33 pm
thank u – bythelake
emme 11.04.08 at 9:33 pm
newman – where in PA are you?
VAKatforPalin 11.04.08 at 9:34 pm
Pennsylvania unofficial returns by county… (many counties have not reported at all….)
http://www.electionreturns.state.pa.us/ElectionsInformation.aspx?FunctionID=15&ElectionID=28&OfficeID=
Flasunshiner 11.04.08 at 9:34 pm
Only 14 precincts of 90 total in Escambia County have reported in. Escambia is our county and is on the border of Alabama. Red to the core. We are now watching our local channel where the repubs are in good moods.
newman 11.04.08 at 9:34 pm
Emme: Amish Country. Boonies of Lancaster County.
TrishfromCanada 11.04.08 at 9:34 pm
HiHat
Yes, I should have added that when I count Obama he is at 185 , excluding states west of Texas, the media are calling Bo with no grounds to call him, so if we call McCain in the states he is leading by exit polls, etc, then the electoral count is closer
emme 11.04.08 at 9:35 pm
Fightforfreedom – local tv stations in ne PA are saying that early election results are misleading cause most are from Phila area
ontherocks 11.04.08 at 9:35 pm
Unofficial Returns for PA
*** 2,503 out of 9,293 Districts (26.93%) Reporting Statewide ***
LoriBe 11.04.08 at 9:35 pm
American Prospect has some things listed to look at in the election results. In PA they said to look at who wins the following counties. I checked the link for the PA results from the SOS and this is what they show so far:
Bucks – not in yet
Butler – McCain
Beaver – Obama
Washington – McCain
Westmoreland – not in yet
Maybe this is why McCain was challenging PA being called so early?
Casper Cat 11.04.08 at 9:35 pm
HEY #107 SouthernGal68, OH YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!! I just wish we could get the real polls and not all of this bullshit…Hey, I have an idea…When all is said and done I think WE should sue the News channel’s for INTENTIONAL INFLICTION OF EMOTIONAL DISTRESS!!! YOU KNOW, A CLASS ACTION SUIT…
BrianH 11.04.08 at 9:35 pm
Va. & W. Va. called for Mac, also Ga. Mi, Mac leading. Surprises still to come!
newman 11.04.08 at 9:36 pm
VAKat: My precinct isn’t in yet, I keep refreshing it. Usually it’s in 20 minutes after close. It’s been an hour & a half….
feebie 11.04.08 at 9:36 pm
NObamaDem 11.04.08 at 9:20 pm
Murphy!
There’s a Bot loose downstairs.
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Thanks for the laugh. Perhaps it is because im so anxious, but that just made me LOL.
newman 11.04.08 at 9:37 pm
Bucks will go Obama. Lots of very wealthy former New Yorkers live there, I have a lot of friends in the Buckingham and Newtown areas.
catsarepumas 11.04.08 at 9:37 pm
I think many people who are falling into a state of panic are being stoked by others here who are quick to call it quits, despite being told for a long time not to worry about exit polls and despite fighting MSM for nearly 2 years. Turn off your TV and if necessary go away from your computer for a while. The East coast has been calling elections before West coast polls close since my parents were newlyweds. They are just doing it for the ratings and to keep you watching them. Talk here and listen to good music at the same time. We can cry tomorrow, to paraphrase Scarlet O’Hara. You have all been steadfast and brave since I found you: don’t quit now please.
Freddie: hi and, yes, moral victory is good.
VAKatforPalin 11.04.08 at 9:38 pm
PUMA’s,
Virginia also has a website with the postings which can be broken down by county… but it’s slow coming up. I’ll post the link as soon as I can…
Ario 11.04.08 at 9:38 pm
juan williams is about to cry
tillerylakelady 11.04.08 at 9:38 pm
Dear Pumas,
It’s all over but the crying,I am so sad and totally heartbroken,But I can tell you all, he will never be my President or my messiah!I hate this man,I hate this man,I hate this man. I’m gonna go now,I think to bed early.
I will be back,But I will not watch any more news,for a while.
Love Tillerylakelady (((((Heres a Big PUMA HUG)))))
kat in your hat 11.04.08 at 9:38 pm
Careful pumas.
Don’t believe for one second that the propaganda machine would slow.
wewillwin 11.04.08 at 9:38 pm
BrianH #147
Well that is good news.
Patty 11.04.08 at 9:38 pm
Allrighty Pumas.
First remember we really don’t have a candidate in this election.
Also who ever wins is the real loser.
They inherit two wars and a recession.
That doesn’t seem like a winner to me.
KarenWI 11.04.08 at 9:38 pm
PA 27% precincts reporting:
Obama 65
McCain 34
no1what 11.04.08 at 9:38 pm
McCain should have MN with 60 %
TrishfromCanada 11.04.08 at 9:39 pm
If you go to the Fox map you can choose a state and look at what precincts are in, PA isn’t as colourful as the media make it appear.
http://news.yahoo.com/election/2008/dashboard
Go to the bottom of the page and choose the state, it will change the map
emme 11.04.08 at 9:39 pm
LoriBe – I heard that too. McCain camp protesting the media calling PA for Obama so early based on Phila & exit polls.
SouthernGAL68 11.04.08 at 9:39 pm
NO SHIT! I am trying to take deep breaths and wait until it is all “said and done”! I keep walking around the kitchen then coming back to the computer – I don’t know whether to wind my ass or scratch my watch! HA!
newman 11.04.08 at 9:39 pm
#134 Fight, Obama has already won the coal regions.
CNN’s map is really good. Turn off the sound. I don’t like Fox’s, it hangs up my computer.
TrishfromCanada 11.04.08 at 9:39 pm
ooops this map
http://elections.foxnews.com/states_map/index.html
KarenWI 11.04.08 at 9:39 pm
OH 16% reporting:
55 Obama
43 McCain
snowtiger007 11.04.08 at 9:39 pm
COM ONE PEOPLE !! WHEN THE F@#K HAS THE MEDIA DONE ANYTHING BUT LIE ABOUT THIS? DON’T GIVE UP!! NEVER EVER GIVE UP!!!
ontherocks 11.04.08 at 9:40 pm
15% in Ohio
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55% O
43% M
Mapleleaf 11.04.08 at 9:40 pm
I agree, my husband votes in Escambia County, FL and it is heavy (R) with lots of military absentee votes.
Feeling better now; just clicked on the counties in western PA — many have not yet begun reporting or are showing McCain slightly ahead with only 25% or so of precincts reporting in.
Regarding VA — PWC went reliably red, re-electing Frank Wolf again, Obama thought he could turn this ex-urb blue, I think McCain is going to get VA as well.
VAKatforPalin 11.04.08 at 9:40 pm
newman #148
don’t know what to tell you except that the site may be slow to report…. I’m in Virginia and it took my county almost two hours to report anything.
TXRepGirl 11.04.08 at 9:40 pm
On exit polls being wrong and votes breaking for Hillarey. In ’04, Dems mostly ALL voted for Kerry. There was really no reason not to. If 20% of Hilarey (sorry, don’t know how to spell her name) voters break for McCain, that’s 4 MILLION going to the other side.
This ain’t over!
God bless America!
Flasunshiner 11.04.08 at 9:40 pm
A caller on Murphy’s radio show just now called PUMA PAC people very friendly, and she goes to other blogs, but her “heart belongs to PUMA PAC”.
And, she also asked if repubs can join PUMA….hell yes !!!
BigCatLover 11.04.08 at 9:40 pm
Okay all the tv station including PBS and MSNBC pundits going on and on about nonsense, not talking about the voting, so the tv now goes off. I can’t take all the blather based on exit polls and not the voting. I think voters have been completely disenfranchised by the parties and the media. May have to just drop out of the system. After 8 years of a corrupt, lying cheating and incompetent administration, the thought of 4 more years of the same thing is just crazy.
newman 11.04.08 at 9:40 pm
Did any of you work the polls today?
LoriBe 11.04.08 at 9:41 pm
Looks like Obama took Bucks County, PA, still waiting on Westoreland County.
Mapleleaf 11.04.08 at 9:41 pm
Snowtiger,
I am not giving up, I am just disappointed that they are already trying to throw the election when some states have less than 5% of counties reporting in! Unbelievable!!
BigCatLover 11.04.08 at 9:41 pm
Sorry, correction – meant to say PBS and CSPan pundits…
snowtiger007 11.04.08 at 9:42 pm
TXRepGirl
Excellent points!
newman 11.04.08 at 9:42 pm
VAKat #169, Our votes are getting to the countin’ hall via scooter.
jallen0347 11.04.08 at 9:42 pm
Keep in mind these projections are not
final until all counts are all tallied…
Pennsylavania only has 29% percent of
their votes in… That leaves 61% to go..
That 29% just may be the precint’s Obama
was projected to win… There is still 61%
to… That is exactly what they did in 2000
they projected the Al Gore winner of Florida…
Rabblerouser 11.04.08 at 9:42 pm
KarenWI 11.04.08 at 9:14 pm
My prediction is this… IF Obama wins then he will be the last POTUS. I am dead serious about this. Israel will attack Iran because they will know that they are (for the first time) all alone; and then the Muslim nations will declare war on Israel and America will stand with them (because of the darned Obama), and that will be the start of Armagheddon (sp?)…
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A couple of years ago – even last year I would have thought that someone who made such a statement was crazy, pure and simple. Now? Now I sadly think you’re pretty sane and right on…
TrishfromCanada 11.04.08 at 9:43 pm
Here’s a thought for the US elections,
In Canada during our federal elections, we have a law that requires media blackout til the last poll is closed.
KarenWI 11.04.08 at 9:43 pm
OH 20% reporting:
54 Obama/45 McCain
PA 31% reporting:
65 Obama/ 34 McCain
HiHat 11.04.08 at 9:43 pm
I think that the networks just want to make sure that The Messiah can give his sermon on the mount around midnight. Good television, dontchaknow, and better ratings if it’s not too late.
Ugh.
Again, we need to pass a Law to prevent these early projections in future elections.
catsarepumas 11.04.08 at 9:43 pm
Why is newman always filled with upbeat thoughts???? Not!!!
Like a gnat flying up your nose….thanks NOBAMADEM
wewillwin 11.04.08 at 9:43 pm
I need some really good news right now…..my stomach is churning…
newman 11.04.08 at 9:43 pm
I knew he would get Bucks. I know my state.
I’m tellin’ ya, this whole thing was a sham in PA. It was never close, and Rendell scammed McCain.
Party Unity... got Kool-aid? 11.04.08 at 9:43 pm
Psalm 109:8
Let his days be few; Let another take his office.
snowtiger007 11.04.08 at 9:43 pm
Mapleleaf
I understand but, we HAD to expect this.
just remember they got it wrong by 16% last time and they were nowhere as biased as they are today.
VAKatforPalin 11.04.08 at 9:44 pm
Virginia election results… you can click and see by county or district.
https://www.voterinfo.sbe.virginia.gov/election/DATA/2008/07261AFC-9ED3-410F-B07D-84D014AB2C6B/Unofficial/1_s.shtml
SouthernGAL68 11.04.08 at 9:44 pm
Well, NEWORLEANSPUMA – we brought it home for MAC! I knew my state was going for MAC – too bad we don’t have more elect. points/votes
Anna7000 11.04.08 at 9:44 pm
newman – My husband is working the polls (still open here in CA). I saw him briefly at lunch time. He said voter turn out was high, things were going very smoothly, no voting glitches. I was a poll watcher. Same thing. Voter turn out was steady, no traffic jams, no problems.
snowtiger007 11.04.08 at 9:45 pm
newman
Sure newman, I’m sure McCAins internal polling was conned.
Who are you trying to kid?
wewillwin 11.04.08 at 9:45 pm
ok, so what all states does mcCain truly have?
kre8tr 11.04.08 at 9:45 pm
They just gave OHIO to Obama! No one has ever won the presidency without it! WHAT WILL WE DO? How can they do that?
Rabblerouser 11.04.08 at 9:45 pm
TrishfromCanada 11.04.08 at 9:43 pm
Here’s a thought for the US elections,
In Canada during our federal elections, we have a law that requires media blackout til the last poll is closed
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You have a sane country. Haven’t you figured out that we do not? That’s why we stand on the brink of electing our first Fascist president.
TerryDo 11.04.08 at 9:46 pm
I am sinking into a low grade depression.
Nijma 11.04.08 at 9:46 pm
Here’s a little electoral map you can color.
http://camelsnose.wordpress.com/2008/11/04/an-electoral-map-to-color-while-watching-election-returns/
I suppose you could copy and paste it to a word document then print it out.
I’m heading down to the lakefront to see how the Chicago coronation activities are working out.
jenniforhillary 11.04.08 at 9:46 pm
HELP….I Cannot take it !!!
Flasunshiner 11.04.08 at 9:47 pm
This election is like watching the track of a hurricane heading into the gulf…
HiHat 11.04.08 at 9:47 pm
Trish #181
I knew there was a reason why I’ve always loved Canada.
I’m right on the border.
TrishfromCanada 11.04.08 at 9:47 pm
I hope this makes everyone smile, made me have a good chuckle:
Man Parks Manure Near Democrats’ Campaign Office to Protest Obama
A 38-year-old Montana man has come under fire after parking a trailer load of manure across the street from a Democratic campaign office to protest Barack Obama.
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BUTTE, Mont.–
Democrats are criticizing a 38-year-old man who parked a trailer load of manure across the street from Whitehall’s Democratic campaign office to protest presidential hopeful Barack Obama.
Terry Reed, who owns a construction and excavation company in Whitehall, parked the trailer near the office on Saturday. He also posted a sign in the manure mocking Obama’s “change we can believe in” slogan as “a load of crap.”
“I think Obama’s plan is just one big old poop sandwich and we’re all going to have to take a bite,” he said.
Suzanne Molyneaux, the Obama campaign’s election team leader in Whitehall, said traffic came to a near standstill as people stopped to take pictures of the trailer.
“People in Whitehall were upset, they were outraged,” she said. “I don’t think Whitehall should be represented as this podunk, ignorant community. There are lots of good people here.”
Reed said he doesn’t plan to move the trailer until after Election Day.
“My only regret is that I didn’t do something sooner,” he said.
emme 11.04.08 at 9:47 pm
Trish – Exactly!
wewillwin 11.04.08 at 9:47 pm
I can’t believe this many people actually voted for this man.
ontherocks 11.04.08 at 9:48 pm
Okay they call NM for O with 3% reprting
42% O
57% M
but MS is reporting 17%
53% M
46% O but they have not called it for McCain yet.
warrior4hillary 11.04.08 at 9:48 pm
ELECTION RETURNS FOR PA shows that mac won 2o counties and obie won 13 so haw does they say obie won?
jennforhillary 11.04.08 at 9:48 pm
yeah, does anyone remember 2000? Florida?? Blue to red?? This is all so silly….i want REAL HARD NUMBERS!! Not PROJECTIONS! I thought the news wasn’t supposed to PROJECT after 2000….Guess they forgot.
no1what 11.04.08 at 9:48 pm
what do you have for NM? I show McCain in the lead
Anna7000 11.04.08 at 9:49 pm
TRISH -
“In Canada during our federal elections, we have a law that requires media blackout til the last poll is closed.”
We absolutely should do that here. I heard a ridiculous piece on NPR this morning with more double speak than I could keep track of. The gist was that as news media, they rationalize that it’s their job to inform the public (Oh, yeah, right! Like ya’ll did all year, huh?), so if they have results from the east coast, heaven forbid they withhold this from the public. It’s all a crock. And no media outlet wants to be outdone by another, so I do believe it does need to be an agreed upon policy, perhaps imposed by the government that no results are reported until the last poll closes.
I could see a shift in attitude among those I was calling all day in CA. During the past hour or so (as results were coming in from the east) I spoke with several peoplel who sounded utterly apathetic. No one said outright they weren’t going to vote. But, during the entire afternoon, everyone I spoke to who had not yet voted, said they were going to vote.
TerryDo 11.04.08 at 9:49 pm
Party Unity… got Kool-aid? 11.04.08 at 9:43 pm
Psalm 109:8
Let his days be few; Let another take his office.
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THAT IS NOT NICE AT ALL! YOU CAN BE SAD WITHOUT PUTTING A CURSE ON SOMEONE.
greenvalley 11.04.08 at 9:49 pm
Hey no one ever said democracy was easy (or fair). You all have worked your tails off and you have no idea how impressed I am. Unfortunately even if Mac wins the battle isn’t over. If Puma’s don’t vet these politians who do you think will? The media? I think puma’s have only begun to prowl. (I also think it is about time I put my money where my mouth is!)
P.S. Remember this from back in the day “Question Authority”
newman 11.04.08 at 9:49 pm
Snowtiger #192, They don’t call Rendell Fast Eddie for nothing. That man is a major politician, and McCain’s campaign has made a Lot of mistakes. I’m sure they *were* conned. Fast as in Slick.
Anna #191, I was there from 6:30-2:30 today, and things went pretty smoothly here, too. It was mobbed early. My husband went on at 2:30, got back from the polls at 8. We ended up with pouring rain….
Anna7000 11.04.08 at 9:49 pm
Thank you 192 snowtiger.
VAKatforPalin 11.04.08 at 9:49 pm
Ohio election results
http://vote.sos.state.oh.us/pls/enrpublic/f?p=130:14:0
blondlady 11.04.08 at 9:50 pm
if Fox keeps on, I’m going to willingly change to CNN. Even Megyn seems slanted. It’s just absurb to call a state based on 5% returns. The popular vote is so close, it’s hard to imagine all of those states going for BO. Voter fraud was bigger than we thought.
wewillwin 11.04.08 at 9:50 pm
Good news please….I’m about to faint here….
snowtiger007 11.04.08 at 9:50 pm
warrior4hillary 11.04.08 at 9:48 pm
ELECTION RETURNS FOR PA shows that mac won 2o counties and obie won 13 so haw does they say obie won?
There you go!@!!!!
kevink 11.04.08 at 9:50 pm
Luke 23:34
ontherocks 11.04.08 at 9:50 pm
no1what 11.04.08 at 9:48 pm
what do you have for NM? I show McCain in the lead
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Move your mouse over NM on the map.
http://www.msn.com/
Libby 11.04.08 at 9:51 pm
Maybe they will keep calling for Obama until they have their party in Chicago, everyone goes home without burning down the city, then they start calling in the real votes.
bydesign001 11.04.08 at 9:51 pm
Check out WordPress: CAST YOUR VIRTUAL BALLOT.
http://en.blog.wordpress.com/2008/11/04/cast-your-virtual-ballot/
VAKatforPalin 11.04.08 at 9:51 pm
Ohio election results by county (sorry I’m posting these sporadically…
)
http://vote.sos.state.oh.us/pls/enrpublic/f?p=130:105:0::NO::P105_RACE_OR_ISSUE_ID:210B9780836E4E238611060C9B3958BB
TrishfromCanada 11.04.08 at 9:51 pm
snowtiger007
See! that’s why you get to be 007, hugsss my friend
emme 11.04.08 at 9:51 pm
#210 greenvalley – Well said.
ontherocks 11.04.08 at 9:52 pm
snowtiger007 11.04.08 at 9:50 pm
warrior4hillary 11.04.08 at 9:48 pm
ELECTION RETURNS FOR PA shows that mac won 2o counties and obie won 13 so haw does they say obie won?
There you go!@!!!!
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The voter turn out in each county. THATONE won the counties that had a higher turnout. (I think)
gostrumcat 11.04.08 at 9:52 pm
This Sam Adams is for Snowtiger who seems to be single handedly calming the masses! Love ya Snow!
Anna7000 11.04.08 at 9:52 pm
196 Terry Do: “low grade depression”…I’ve been there for months. Mine’s kicking into high grade now.
Puff 11.04.08 at 9:52 pm
As far as I know, the people who hate us the most in the world are the muslims. And who do the American people hire to be their president, a muslim. AND his name is Hussein. Just sitting here shaking my head, unbelievalbe.
The Americans just voted in a socialist, marxist, stalinist, communist muslim to run the country.
I think I will go to bed and I don’t care if I ever wake up. This is totally disgusting. I’ve had it. I no longer have confidence in my fellow Americans.
Mapleleaf 11.04.08 at 9:53 pm
Trish from Canada,
At home they also don’t suffer from election fatigue like the primaries create here. My first US election was in 1996 in FL. My husband voted in the primaries, and I thought he had “early voted”. Then there was a runoff in the primary. THEN the general election. So I can understand why voter turnout gets depressed.
4hillinca 11.04.08 at 9:53 pm
How can McCain have more votes in Ohio and they call it for Obama? What am I missing? HELP
newman 11.04.08 at 9:53 pm
Snowtiger, #216 Where are you getting this county count?
HiHat 11.04.08 at 9:54 pm
My prediction:
The media will call this Election at 11:00 pm. EST. Then, That One will give his victory speech just after Midnight.
A brand new day.
Is it possible that, maybe, just maybe, the sun won’t rise tomorrow?
I see 4 years of darkness ahead.
snowtiger007 11.04.08 at 9:54 pm
newman
Hey Newman, you want to now what I think? I think you are full of crap.
You come here and say “Oh, rendell conned Mccain. It was never close Rendell conned McCains internal polling.”
what a crock. Based on what? The exit polling? The same exit poling that called the election for Kerry?
The polling that was off by 16% last time?
Now, are you really going to sit here and say they are accurate this time?
The only question is how far off are they?
Mapleleaf 11.04.08 at 9:54 pm
Oh, and Murphy, FYI
YOU ROCK !!!
Thanks so much for making this happen, and for creating a “safe place” where we can go!!!
Murphy, Riverdaughter, all the PUMA bloggers….all of you have been an inspiration.
ChristineRI 11.04.08 at 9:54 pm
Fox pundits are saying this is a protest vote against Bush. WTF! It’s like poking your eyes out because you don’t like the view!
SouthernGAL68 11.04.08 at 9:54 pm
Funny HighHAT … Sermon on the mount! lol – I needed the laugh!
BigCatLover 11.04.08 at 9:55 pm
We need to realize that BO threatend fox tv repeatedly near the end of the campaign and they know if he does become president, he will retaliate against them. They’ve had it very cushy the last 8 years being Bush’s network, but that is going to change no matter who wins this election. They are covering their a$$es.
emme 11.04.08 at 9:55 pm
Check out this link for voting results in PA by county. Scroll over each county to see the % of voting results in. It ain’t over yet in PA.
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/results/individual/#mapPPA
ontherocks 11.04.08 at 9:55 pm
4hillinca 11.04.08 at 9:53 pm
How can McCain have more votes in Ohio and they call it for Obama? What am I missing? HELP
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I don’t know. I am in the same boat as you.
1gypsy4mc 11.04.08 at 9:55 pm
Are we still doing Exit polls? Or are we getting actual votes yet? Please help!!
snowtiger007 11.04.08 at 9:55 pm
newman 11.04.08 at 9:53 pm
Snowtiger, #216 Where are you getting this county count?
Warrior4hillary posted the count i just copied it.
TrishfromCanada 11.04.08 at 9:56 pm
Mapleleaf
Very true, we don’t spend a billion dollars on winning a vote either. They said on the radio today that the dollar value spent was equal to 8.00 per voter.
jenniforhillary 11.04.08 at 9:56 pm
I cannot stand this….
Asian4Hillary 11.04.08 at 9:56 pm
You all chill, but IF the people voted for NObama, this country deserve the government they get. AT LEAST PUMAS can say, I told you so! Ohhhhhh Yes! Hamas, Al Qeada and Bin Laden are happy now.
wewillwin 11.04.08 at 9:56 pm
looks like there is a lot od RED in Pennsyvania. Could it be??
Ario 11.04.08 at 9:57 pm
puff
isnt it amazing…i am fvcking floored and the scarey thing is that if he is elected we will pay a huge price…oh well so be it
Casper Cat 11.04.08 at 9:57 pm
I swear if BO in declared the winner of this election..I will haunt everyone I know who supported him and those who I don’t know with one straight message when their lives start falling apart….REMEMBER, YOU VOTING FOR THIS LYING PIECE OF SHIT!!!!WHO IS NOTHING MORE THAN A “HITLER” IN DISGUSE…AND, TO ALL OF YOU JEWISH VOTERS WHO SUPPOTED HIM…YOU DESERVE WHAT YOU ARE ABOUT TO GET…..PERIOD!!! Sorry, for being so forward but enough is enough!!!
no1what 11.04.08 at 9:57 pm
what am i not seeing correctly in NM? I show McCain with 62%
Anna7000 11.04.08 at 9:57 pm
Winning or losing isn’t based on the number of counties you win. Some counties are highly populated, otheres are very rural. That’s also part of how they project the winner: Once they see the most populated areas reported, they can extrapolate from there knowing the population of other areas in a state, voter reg, party affiliation, exit polls, etc. I know everyone’s waiting for hard numbers, but I do believe that what we’re seeing now is nothing more than what countless pollsters have reported for a while now and it’s not all just one big conspiracy. Plus, like I said in an earlier post, the political landscape is shifting in America as baby boomers, many of whom are Dems, retire and relocate to red states, turning them purple and blue.
We’re wall watching the unfolding of the perfect storm: corruption, enormous funds, well oiled campaign and get out the vote machine, bad year for any Republican to run with Bush’s approval ratings so low and the economy in collapse, exploiting white guilt, etc.
For anyone who wants good news, this is what I have to offer:
We will all wake up tomorrow and carry on. Phase 3 will begin soon enough. We’ll all be here, working or a***** off and having each other to lean on.
ontherocks 11.04.08 at 9:58 pm
Only 9 counties left to report in PA.
Ario 11.04.08 at 9:58 pm
oh casper i have ended friendships over that one….and i dont care
emme 11.04.08 at 9:58 pm
(((((snowtiger)))))
snowtiger007 11.04.08 at 9:58 pm
TrishfromCanada
but warrior 4hillary got the numbers.
Hugs back trish
She now has a double o number.
ontherocks 11.04.08 at 9:58 pm
no1what 11.04.08 at 9:57 pm
what am i not seeing correctly in NM? I show McCain with 62%
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He must have had jump in the last few minutes.
SouthernGAL68 11.04.08 at 9:58 pm
BigCat … that is some sick @#$ – Obama being able to get away with this! I am afraid that anyone who does not go along with him … will be shut down or gotten rid of! I hate that man!
TrishfromCanada 11.04.08 at 9:58 pm
wewillwin
lots of red in PA is correct, never say never, McCain will win.
jenniforhillary 11.04.08 at 9:59 pm
I’m sobbing
snowtiger007 11.04.08 at 9:59 pm
(((emme)))
Anna7000 11.04.08 at 9:59 pm
“Fox pundits are saying this is a protest vote against Bush. WTF! It’s like poking your eyes out because you don’t like the view!” – Some apply the same logic to PUMAs.
ozgal 11.04.08 at 9:59 pm
I imagine hillary must be feeling really bad right now…she’s doomed if BO wins..ahhh
Asian4Hillary 11.04.08 at 9:59 pm
If you have 401K account, might as well kiss it goodbye, NObama and the Democratic Party will take it away and distribute it. Your social security, you’ll be tax on that.
The people always get the government they deserve.
wewillwin 11.04.08 at 10:00 pm
TrishfromCanada
I tell ya, I feel like I’m gonna faint….
Nervous stomach and all.
I need some REALLY good news right now bad….
ontherocks 11.04.08 at 10:00 pm
I really think we need to push congress to pass a bill, to stop the media from calling any race until there is at least 60% of the votes reported in a state.
We are pumas, we could push for a bill like this.
KarenWI 11.04.08 at 10:00 pm
Fox says IA changed from red to blue
jenniforhillary 11.04.08 at 10:00 pm
Trish–if we win I will MAKE YOU GOD!!
1gypsy4mc 11.04.08 at 10:00 pm
Anna7000 Anna, are we on the actual votes now? Please??
Rabblerouser 11.04.08 at 10:00 pm
greenvalley 11.04.08 at 9:49 pm
Hey no one ever said democracy was easy (or fair).
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Esp. in America. I’ve come to believe that Americans are unable to govern themselves. Democracy requires an informed and intelligent populace, which the presidential choices in my adult life (starting with Nixon and ending tonight) have shown that such doesn’t exist in this country. Let’s see there was Nixon, then Carter, then Reagan, then Bush the elder then Clinton (the one intelligent choice), then Bush the younger and now possibly our first Fascist president.
BigCatLover 11.04.08 at 10:01 pm
That PA county by county map is breaking about as predicted so calling it based on that is premature. On theother hand the exit polls are all in BO’s favor, so it they are weighted one way or the other, they are not a good gauge.
Anna7000 11.04.08 at 10:01 pm
“You all chill, but IF the people voted for NObama, this country deserve the government they get.” – One teenie, tiny problem is that we ALL get that government. That’s what so scarey! Being able to say “I told you so” means precious little to me if we’re all being blown to smitherines (sp?)!
snowtiger007 11.04.08 at 10:01 pm
Anna7000
I understand that some counties are more populous than others but these are based on exit polling. Which is inaccurate. Keep that in mind.
VAKatforPalin 11.04.08 at 10:01 pm
PUMA’s…
They call states based on the exit polls UNLESS the exit polls from the precincts used are more that 10% off the actual results from that precinct. For example: if precinct #1 exit polls show McCain with 56% and Obama with 44% but the actual results coming in from precinct #1 are McCain 51% and Obama 48%, they will not call the state because its within the 3% margin of error.
If, like what I’m guessing is going on with OH and PA, the exit polls from the precinct are Obama 56% and McCain 44% and that precincts actual report is Obama 54% and McCain 46%, then they will call the state for Obama.
Remember that not all precincts have exit polls–only certain ones within the state so the “calling” of states is really subjective.
emme 11.04.08 at 10:01 pm
#262 ontherocks – I’m with you. Let’s ask Murphy if we can add it to our list.
KarenWI 11.04.08 at 10:01 pm
Is there no hope for PA?
What about OH?
FL?
VA?
Mapleleaf 11.04.08 at 10:01 pm
Trish from Canada –
yes, the amount of $$$ being spent is indeed crazy. I also don’t remember the allegations of widespread voter fraud in Canada like there has been here the past two election cycles. I remember working directly for Elections Canada as a vote registrar and a poll clerk. After we took the census and registered voters, we had to type up the list and post it in a prominent place in the polling precinct for the public to review and challenge. Sure makes it more “transparent”. We also checked photo IDs back in the early 80′s and it wasn’t considered “controversial” or “voter suppression”. Sigh.
Asian4Hillary 11.04.08 at 10:02 pm
I know a LOT of you voted for Democrats down ticket, I didn’t. I know damn well what will happen if Nobama able to squeak it into the Whitehouse! GRRRRRRRRRRR
VA-James 11.04.08 at 10:02 pm
PUMAS you are right. They do call these elections awfully quick. This does not help McCain out in the West while they are still voting to see states called with 0%. I would really like to have a private vote. It would make it more interesting than how they make the calls now. You cannot tell me why with electronic voting machines it still takes more than an hour to process.
SouthernGAL68 11.04.08 at 10:02 pm
Asian4Hill – that is what my neighbor said .. She told me that if Obama wins, maybe it will wake America up!
I told her, me and the pumas are wide awake!
ontherocks 11.04.08 at 10:03 pm
emme 11.04.08 at 10:01 pm
#262 ontherocks – I’m with you. Let’s ask Murphy if we can add it to our list.
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Okay. Murphy can we try to add post # 262 to our loooong list of things to do???
TerryDo 11.04.08 at 10:04 pm
Popular vote:
Obama 50% TO McCain 49%
If Obama wins they will have to drag him over the finish line again..
KarenWI 11.04.08 at 10:05 pm
Fox is saying that McCain people are telling them that there is virtually no way they can win….
wewillwin 11.04.08 at 10:05 pm
ok, if he does indeed win
what can we do? He wouldn’t be in until January. Could anything change by then?
snowtiger007 11.04.08 at 10:05 pm
You know something. I wont concede this until the very last vote has been counted.
They can have my penis when they pry it out of my cold dead hands. Or something like that.
BigCatLover 11.04.08 at 10:05 pm
On blog talkradio they are advising pumas to go read a book or go to bed if they are too upset. The problem with that is that if you don’t watch this live, what you hear on tv tomorrow may not be anywhere close to what actually happened.
SouthernGAL68 11.04.08 at 10:05 pm
Not this woman … I voted REP, REP, REP …. all the way! (My thoughts … “more to oppose Obama “!
Libby 11.04.08 at 10:05 pm
Ario, I also have ended friendships and family relationships and I don’t care. They didn’t care enough to find out the truth about Obama and chose to chastise me for telling them the truth.
I would rather be a PUMA and work to change all of the things wrong with this country that would allow people to vote for someone like Obama.
Asian4Hillary 11.04.08 at 10:05 pm
SouthernGAL68
I voted straight Republican ticket because I knew if Nobama made it into the Whitehouse because some people in this country are just plain dumb and stupid, AT LEAST there’s check and balance in power. Democratic Lead congress and senate and whitehouse = FUCKED UP USA!!!!!
As the old saying goes, suffer suckers!
ontherocks 11.04.08 at 10:05 pm
TerryDo 11.04.08 at 10:04 pm
Popular vote:
Obama 50% TO McCain 49%
If Obama wins they will have to drag him over the finish line again..
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That makes me feel a little better!!
TrishfromCanada 11.04.08 at 10:05 pm
wewillwin
Here’s your good news, after McCain wins tonight :Live on Fox: Footage of Bo and Mo unpacking the u-haul!
1gypsy4mc 11.04.08 at 10:06 pm
are we still on exit polls or are we now on actual votes> Anyone???
emme 11.04.08 at 10:06 pm
I was feeling REALLY bad earlier for voting straight Rep, even downticket. Feeling REALLY good about it now. PUMA proud in fact.
IndyBoomer 11.04.08 at 10:06 pm
On Fox, Carl Cameron just said he had talked to McCain campaign staff, they acknowledged they no longer had a path to win. What???? Conceding already and the polls are still open?
hillfan4mccain 11.04.08 at 10:06 pm
McCain camp says doubt they can win per FOX
Casper Cat 11.04.08 at 10:06 pm
Hey, Ario #250, even though I have not said much to you…I have ALWAY’S LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR POST…I know I have lost what I thought were friends too.. whatever happend to (like a marriage) for better or worse??? The people I know who voted for Bo(pieceoffuckinglyingshitthatheis) won’t even talk in a reasonable discussion about him (BO)..Maybe, the koolaid will have a hugh side effect and they will all regret what they have done….
jenniforhillary 11.04.08 at 10:06 pm
i am sick
Rabblerouser 11.04.08 at 10:06 pm
SouthernGAL68 11.04.08 at 10:02 pm
Asian4Hill – that is what my neighbor said .. She told me that if Obama wins, maybe it will wake America up!
I told her, me and the pumas are wide awake!
————
By the time people wake up, it’ll be too late. Ever heard of the old adage, closing the barn door after the cow has left?
emme 11.04.08 at 10:07 pm
#287 Trish – thanks, I needed that
snowtiger007 11.04.08 at 10:07 pm
KarenWI 11.04.08 at 10:05 pm
Fox is saying that McCain people are telling them that there is virtually no way they can win….
Fox can F. O. imho.
TrishfromCanada 11.04.08 at 10:07 pm
Mapleleaf
We still require a photo id in all our provinces before we can vote. Our elections, as you know, are rather boring. But theydo have solid rules and regulations to prevent fraud
ck 11.04.08 at 10:08 pm
This election has shown clearly that this country direly needs election reform. For starters, we need uniform methods, rules, regulations for every polling station across this country instead of the hodgepodge that exists now, which is so prone to error and outright fraud. ACORN must be prosecuted for its voter registration and election fraud. Also, we need to stop the media from ‘calling’ any results in any state before ALL ballots are tallied nationwide. I urge the PUMA coalition to plan to participate actively in bringing about such reform. For now, again, I urge all PUMAs to stop listening to the media and just wait for the final tallies. This will sound really corny, but sometimes the best thing to do is just be peaceful, quiet and still.
KarenWI 11.04.08 at 10:08 pm
If Obama wins say goodbye to Hannity and Rush…. and all of our freedoms… not counting our money… and probably our lives as well. So for those of your friends who say that 4 years of Obama will “teach America a lesson”… that will be the last lesson America learns- and it will be too late. WHAT FOOLS!
emme 11.04.08 at 10:08 pm
#292 IndyBoomer – it’s a vast left-wing conspiracy
ontherocks 11.04.08 at 10:08 pm
McCain back 3% in FL with 65% reporting in.
snowtiger007 11.04.08 at 10:08 pm
TrishfromCanada
Rofl. I love it.
NObamaDem 11.04.08 at 10:08 pm
emme 11.04.08 at 9:55 pm
Check out this link for voting results in PA by county. Scroll over each county to see the % of voting results in. It ain’t over yet in PA.
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/results/individual/#mapPPA
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Problem is that BO won Philly area by nearly 400,000 votes. I’m not sure Mac can make that up with the real estate left to be counted.
I am so very dissapointed in my state, and particularly in the women – black, white and latino combined – who according to exit polling, went very heavily toward BO.
Ario 11.04.08 at 10:08 pm
wait til we get attacked.
Flasunshiner 11.04.08 at 10:09 pm
Just saw a picture of the bots lined up to celebrate a supposed barry win. They are remind me of bunch of drooling zombies, and scare me more than barry ever could.
emme 11.04.08 at 10:09 pm
(((ck)))
jenniforhillary 11.04.08 at 10:09 pm
i am not functing anymore
kat in your hat 11.04.08 at 10:09 pm
Here’s a pathetic aspect. Conservatives have been bloggin’ that they don’t necessarily want McCain, and want Obama to win.
Wanna know why?
They think that Obama will be such a disaster, make our country and all our relations so horrendous, that the conservatives will ‘rule’ for DECADES after Obama.
What fool thinking is this? lol.
But hey, I guess we will see the republicans’ true colors when this is all said and done.
Pumas. Stay calm.
Asian4Hillary 11.04.08 at 10:09 pm
How can you fucking reform this country when majority of the American people are a bunch of lemmings!!!!!
jenniforhillary 11.04.08 at 10:09 pm
functioning anymore
newman 11.04.08 at 10:09 pm
Snowtiger, are you in eastern PA?
Only 30% of the votes in my county have been counted. CNN’s map of votes doesn’t have Chester County on yet, and that is a Very populated county.
PUMAs have to understand, when TPTB talk about PA being Philly & Pittsburgh with Alabama in between, they are not kidding. And those in between counties are Not heavily populated. Between Philly and Lancaster is a very heavy population, and north of Philly to Bethlehem area. That corner of the state, along with the Pittsburgh area, are where the heavy turnout is. Once those are in, that’s PA for ya.
I have lived here over 50 years, I work the elections, I know a lot of TPTB and I know my state. Fast Eddie pulled a good one. You don’t have to like it, but please don’t get arrogant and tell me I’m full of crap. Did YOU go out and worked 8 hours at the polls, and talk to people about Nobama today? That’s how you change voters’ minds.
Libby 11.04.08 at 10:10 pm
I hope the west coast states voted early so they are not voting after hearing all of this crap.
VA-James 11.04.08 at 10:10 pm
1gypsy4mc, we are definitely on actual votes. The exit polls were finished in the east by around 7 or 8PM in most states. The exit polls for the most part are no longer trusted alone that it why they wait for some actual vote to be turned in. Once they look at historical data from the last election and match it with raw data. They can make fairly accurate predictions with 1 or 2% in. We are still waiting for the polls in the West to close.
DancesWithPumas 11.04.08 at 10:10 pm
jenniforhillary,
we’ve alreayd won! Look at all that we have accomplished in the past 5 months! We are a force to be reckoned with….and we will only become stronger as teh days and weeks roll on….
(((((((((((jenn)))))))))))
RISE PUMAS RISE
RISE PUMA NATION RISE
Beca4Hillary 11.04.08 at 10:10 pm
I hate to sound negative but I do not see how McCain can pass OB with a projected 200 electoral already.
I am going to say goodnight PUMAS, you guys are awasome!
freddiebrown 11.04.08 at 10:10 pm
Is Dances still out voting ?
emme 11.04.08 at 10:10 pm
#303 NObamaDem – that must be the 400,000 new voters ACORN registered in Phila; saw one guy in Phila boasting he voted 3 times.
NobamaNetwork 11.04.08 at 10:11 pm
The west coast states are all blue.
EWard 11.04.08 at 10:11 pm
The popular vote is close 50% to 49%.
I will not be voting for a Democrat candidate again. If Bozo pulls off this scam, this nation is in trouble. We have rewarded the bad guys. All the cheating, the MSM suppressing news coverage about a crooked Obama, and all the sexism won out. The Democrats have shamed this country.
mountainsong 11.04.08 at 10:11 pm
Obama as POTUS is a frickin JOKE!! You can’t be king without subjects. We are at war within our own borsders, and the government didn’t call troops back from Iraq for nothing, or just to make the Iraqi’s happy. Why does anyone think BO wants his own army? Cuz he knows the one we got is NOT gonna back him up.
wewillwin 11.04.08 at 10:11 pm
Is it showing Texas yet?
Rabblerouser 11.04.08 at 10:11 pm
WEll, I have a job to go to tomorrow, so I have to go to bed now. If BO wins and becomes our first Fascist president, we have to regroup because he’s going to be coming after us, his dissenters (sp?) Now we really will have to become the Resistance with a capital R. Lets hope a miracle happens.
But you also realize that if BO isn’t really a natural born citizen then he’s a usurper – and another revolution maybe necessary to rid the land of a usurper.
DancesWithPumas 11.04.08 at 10:11 pm
freddie…no. I’m right here…and there…and there…. four windows open
jenniforhillary 11.04.08 at 10:12 pm
I Want to win!!!
Lorelai 11.04.08 at 10:12 pm
I will remember these past two years as the time that journalism died. I am full of rage, bewildernment, anger, and frustration that the campaign promise to bring us together has brought such divisiness and isolation.
I have never been more apart from my friends and family and acquaintances because of this election. And I do believe we are right and they are wrong.
But do I want to be right, or happy? In this current scenario, if BO does win, I can only be right. But to be happy, I have to practice acceptance- not approval. And work with PUmas to ultimately changed this f’ed up system we have. We literally could not beat this system. It’s a fact.
Asian4Hillary 11.04.08 at 10:13 pm
How can PUMAS reform the fucking Democratic Party, when majority of PUMAS voted for Democratic down ticket! If you want to reform the Democratic Party, first thing you do is break it at the bottom going to the top!
My God people! A lot of you are so slow in the take what real politics is all about!
Do you think you can reform the Democratic Party now? That is a freaking pipedream!!!! BOTTOM LINE IS THIS! A LOT OF YOU ENABLE THE VERY CORRUPT PEOPLE WITHIN THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY AND VOTED THEM BACK INTO POWER!
Oh hell! You all can get mad at me, but sometimes a lot of you deserve a dose of BRUTAL REALITY!
DancesWithPumas 11.04.08 at 10:13 pm
journalism died the day gwbush announced in 1999
mountainsong 11.04.08 at 10:13 pm
Asian4Hillary This country is fucked. It’s prolly never gonna be what it once was again in our lifetimes. Because of people’s stupid apathy and complacency.
emme 11.04.08 at 10:14 pm
#311 newman – I may live in a mostly rural county, but I’m tired of being called a racist and a redneck. I found your comment offensive. Good night newman.
snowtiger007 11.04.08 at 10:14 pm
newman
FYI, I have been talking to people daily for months and blogging and writing and recruiting.
I don’t need lessons from you.
The assumption you are making, and promoting, is that McCAins own internal poling was dead wrong. That somehow it was a con.
Please. That is ridiculous.
Now PA may go heavily to “O’. Until the count is in however, I will not trust the exit polls.
jenniforhillary 11.04.08 at 10:15 pm
I am throwing out my tv. period.
feebie 11.04.08 at 10:15 pm
Not to get things chucked in my direction. But a simple question. If Obozo stole the election from Clinton, how can we not be expecting the same chit here? This is absurd.
Ario 11.04.08 at 10:15 pm
asian….its true
emme 11.04.08 at 10:15 pm
(((((freddie)))))
NativeFlower 11.04.08 at 10:15 pm
Ario, as a PUMAofColor… i’m curious, do you struggle with a cultural collectiveness and a seemingly step forward for equality with strong belief in your principles and an extreme dislike for the nominee himself? cause that’s the problem I’ve had from the very beginning. it’s hard enough on me and i’m not black.
i’m struggling with the feeling that the issue of equality is the understandable reason why alot of people supported BO despite his numerous “shortcomings” i.e., judgment honesty.
i know it’s not over yet. but if the douchebag wins, it’s something i’ll be have to believe in. not Him, but the feelings of the otherwise perhaps good people who were so easily duped.
i guess not everyone can be as Savvy as Us, ya’ll
EWard 11.04.08 at 10:15 pm
#308 kat in your hat
I really don’t believe that the Reps prefer BO over McCain. By the time, Bozo gets through we are going to be a third world country. Jimmy Carter was an awful President, but he wasn’t a Communist/Socialist. We are talking about major economic upheaval and wealth being redistributed in this country. Does any Puma believe that BO can be trusted with our national security? I don’t buy the Rep talking points.
newman 11.04.08 at 10:16 pm
Asian #326: Lancaster County (my county) is going Red. From the bottom up.
mountainsong 11.04.08 at 10:16 pm
Asian4Hillary Yeya, if ur gonna get pissed at Asian, get pissed at me too. We both been beating the drum for 10 months now. And everyone thinks we are just ‘over-reacting’!! Geezus, we’re in the shithole NOW!!!
ontherocks 11.04.08 at 10:16 pm
I am really thinking of taking a job overseas. I honestly can’t stand him. Our country is not going to be better. It is going to take us years and years to rebound from what he plans to do.
kat in your hat 11.04.08 at 10:16 pm
Let’s hold up. Stand back for a minute.
Do you know that what we know about Obama is rare? Most people do not know what many of us know.
For them: he is simply a democrat, and he is black, so it would be historic.
I can understand that. It’s just unfortunate that they wouldn’t know what is in store for all of us and so many others.
Stay calm, pumas. We know better.
YesSheCan 11.04.08 at 10:16 pm
In PA,I don’t understand how Philadelphia county with 600 thousand voters can be the first county to have results in, while the McCain counties with fewer voters and polling places take all night.
jenniforhillary 11.04.08 at 10:16 pm
YES ASIAN YES…
THE DONC IS DEAD–and if you voted for them you are FUCKED…
I have been wanting to say this for MONTHS!!!!!
Puma members should buy guns, bury your money, and pray
DancesWithPumas 11.04.08 at 10:16 pm
from bostonboomer at the confluence:
bostonboomer, on November 4th, 2008 at 10:02 pm Said:
Repost from last thread. This is the latest comment from Marston Chronicles:
“Virginia is now a toss up. Remember that the big cities usually get counted first as the counting centers are nearby. The rural areas have farther to drive so they come in later. Expect states with large cities to go for Obama-Biden at first. Miami is driving Florida so far and Philadelphia will drive Pennsylvania at first so hang in there. Unless you see the votes counted percentage over 50%, you are looking at only part of a state. THESE PEOPLE ARE CALLING PENNSYLVANIA FOR OBAMA-BIDEN WITH 23% OF THE VOTES COUNTED AND NEW HAMPSHIRE WITH 10%? THEY ARE CALLING MICHIGAN, MINNESOTA, WISCONSIN AND NEW MEXICO WITH NO VOTES COUNTED? PASS THE KOOL-AID. FLORIDA IS STILL TIGHT WITH 57% COUNTED BUT NOTICE IT HAS NOT BEEN CALLED YET SO EVEN EXIT POLLS ARE A TOSS UP.”
hillstheone 11.04.08 at 10:16 pm
TOPIC: CHEER UP PUMA’S!
Patty 11.04.08 at 9:38 pm
Allrighty Pumas.
First remember we really don’t have a candidate in this election.
Also who ever wins is the real loser.
They inherit two wars and a recession.
That doesn’t seem like a winner to me.
Patty,
Also worth remembering this. If Obama wins, it will be that much more VALIDATING to the PUMA movement to be able to defeat him before he can take the oath of office in January.
Frankly, given
a) voter fraud & corruption and
b) terrorist ties, associations & activities that don’t pass CIA / FBI muster,
this should NOT be hard to do.
Patty 11.04.08 at 10:17 pm
I hear ya Asian.
I have no party anymore.
I don’t care for Republicans and can’t stand democrats.
I’m going to cling to my 357 magnum and my wallet it’s gonna be a rocky
4 years.
ck 11.04.08 at 10:17 pm
Hope for the best, plan for the worst. First, question election results and take legal action against fraudulent outcome. Second, take action to impeach based on fraudulent candidacy. Third, consider another Boston Tea Party: No taxation without representation. Tough to run a government when all the taxpayers stop paying taxes, right?
IndyBoomer 11.04.08 at 10:17 pm
If Barky indeed wins, I will tune out of politics completely – forever!…starting tomorrow. I will not be able to stomach even listening to him or reading about anything in the news about him. I believe karmic justice will eventually prevail. I just hope it happens in my lifetime and when he is gone from the scene (however that happens) I will celebrate.
I’ll continue reading this blog tonight…it’s still early in CA. Thanks to all the PUMAs for a valiant effort. More than anything, it’s been a comfort to come here and interact with people of like mind and spirit.
newman 11.04.08 at 10:17 pm
Here. Nobama is only ahead by 300-odd votes, and half the votes aren’t even in.
Ario 11.04.08 at 10:17 pm
ha if that one wins he is gonna make president bush’s dividing the country seem like a cocktail party
EWard 11.04.08 at 10:17 pm
#326 Asian4Hillary
Amen to your post!
Asian4Hillary 11.04.08 at 10:17 pm
mountainsong 11.04.08 at 10:13 pm
Asian4Hillary This country is fucked. It’s prolly never gonna be what it once was again in our lifetimes. Because of people’s stupid apathy and complacency.
========
Hell yeah! because the people are fucked up themselves! They can’t fucking think outside of the box! Fucking loyalty to Democratic Party! Fucking A!!!!! The Democratic Party couldn’t care less about the people in this country, they wanted to move this country towards goddamn socialism! And they have the American people to thank for who are so FUCKING BLIND! CAN’T SEE THE GODDAMN WOOD FOR THE TREES!
SHIT!!!!! I AM VERY ANGRY RIGHT NOW!!!!!
invalidresponse 11.04.08 at 10:17 pm
obama nation = Abomination
TrishfromCanada 11.04.08 at 10:18 pm
wewillwin
McCain is leading in texas by 10% points
emme 11.04.08 at 10:18 pm
(((snowtiger)))
hillfan4mccain 11.04.08 at 10:18 pm
Asian…..you are right.
kat in your hat 11.04.08 at 10:18 pm
Something is starting to feel a little fishy…brb.
KarenWI 11.04.08 at 10:18 pm
I haven’t lost faith in AMERICA… but I’ve lost faith in Americans. I honestly thought people weren’t THAT stupid…. how could so many of them vote for someone who so blatently said he’d tax them more…. and would bankrupt the coal industry… and won’t do energy solutions…. and kills babies who survived abortions… and went to a church like that with friends who were terrorists? HOW??? Americans…. I weep for you, for you have given all of us over to a depression worse than we had in the 1940′s (or whatever year that was, and will take away all of our freedoms (freedom of speech and guns for just a couple)…. I weep… for America….
newman 11.04.08 at 10:18 pm
YesSheCan #341, The Amish deliver our votes on scooters and in buggies.
hillstheone 11.04.08 at 10:19 pm
#319 EWard,
“The most votes money can buy!”
TD 11.04.08 at 10:19 pm
Well..this is one Republican that didn’t want Obama to win…this is the first election that it matter to me which side won. I mean..technically yes I normally preferred a Republican ..but I wasn’t scared if the other side won.
fmster 11.04.08 at 10:19 pm
Pumas,
Things are looking bleak, but we can hold our heads high. If this holds up, I fear that this is truly the end of capitalism and democracy in the world. Don’t be surprised if Russia invades the independent states that declared independence from the Soviet Union. We will sit idle while this happens, and Russia will become a super power. Meanwhile, as others have commented the situation in the Middle East will not look pretty. Our economy will be destroyed by Obama’s socialistic policies, and we will not be able to recover.
I can understand people showing their anger over the Buish Administrations. But, to not think rationally and destroy the United States? That I don’t understand. The universities and ultra liberal faculty members are greatly responsible for influencing college students to vote for Obama. So many “intellient” people blindly following their lead without thinking for themselves.
I am sorry, but now I think we will see corporations, jobs and people moving overseas in droves to avoid economic devastation.
catsarepumas 11.04.08 at 10:19 pm
According to Fox, the popular vote is about 50% to about 49%.
HiHat 11.04.08 at 10:19 pm
It’s over folks.
At 11 o’clock the Media will anoint That One.
A clear victory for Misogyny, Fraud, and Race-baiting.
Remember this:
In America, black MEN were allowed to vote before ANY WOMAN.
In America, a black MAN was just elected President before ANY WOMAN ever was.
So, which is worse, racism or sexism? Both are bad, of course, but for me the ungoing fight for Women’s Rights is the last, best cause to fight for.
As a man, I have fought, and will continue to fight for Women Everywhere. And I am honored to call myself a PUMA. I thank you all, especially Murphy, for welcoming me here, and I will be here tomorrow, and tomorrow, and tomorrow…
Hat
goingtoMcVote 11.04.08 at 10:19 pm
Well, we’re all here and pretty pissed. If this does go down the shitter we’ve got four years to get a plan in place.
Libby 11.04.08 at 10:20 pm
I still think there are lawsuits coming out of this. If we can no longer use the courts to keep things legal, if we can no longer trust the elections, if we can no longer trust the media (and we KNOW we cannot), then we will have to either leave the country or fight harder than ever.
They are picking on Palin again. Sick country that considers women from all walks of life including two of the strongest women ever, Hillary and Sarah, are “problems” while they allowed this misogynist crap then we now know what we are really dealing with in this country.
clintondemocrat 11.04.08 at 10:20 pm
I hate everyone
emme 11.04.08 at 10:20 pm
Goodnight all
feebie 11.04.08 at 10:21 pm
Indiana – 86% reported
McCain (R) 1,113,936 50%
Obama (D) 1,101,097 49%
Florida – 67% reported
McCain (R) 3,127,502 48%
Obama (D) 3,304,679 51%
North Carolina – 76% reported
McCain (R) 1,712,619 50%
Obama (D) 1,717,850 50%
Ohio – only 34% reported
McCain (R) 1,064,193 47%
Obama (D) 1,186,729 52%
Virginia – 81% reported
McCain (R)1,322,806 49.28%
Abc news polls. It aint over. Look at the reporting.
Obama (D) 1,332,670 49.65%
no1what 11.04.08 at 10:21 pm
McCain would have to win every single vote not accounted for yet in pa to win pa
Patty 11.04.08 at 10:21 pm
goodnight emme
freddiebrown 11.04.08 at 10:21 pm
Look – we all want a win.
But look at what the old guy John McCain spent – 80+ something million compared to what that idiot spent 600 Million and only 1% difference in the popular vote.
If you ask me, I will tell you McCain won against odds stacked against him. It gives me hope that not everyone was in the tank. I find comfort in that.
Zee 11.04.08 at 10:21 pm
“In Canada during our federal elections, we have a law that requires media blackout til the last poll is closed.”
Trish, and I believe you handcount ballots, too?
We need these and more. No caucuses. Reformed primaries. A 3 day weekend national holiday in which to vote, none of this endless crap.
And the TABLOID media needs to be reigned in. Let them report on wardrobes and other crap in a little “style hour” and during the news, report the issues, not the American Idol personality contest!
goingtoMcVote 11.04.08 at 10:21 pm
I still think there is a shot and McCain will win by 3EV. JUST 3, but a win….it will be an ugly road to get those votes.
We start tommorrow. We plan to make this right in 2012.
ontherocks 11.04.08 at 10:21 pm
kat in your hat 11.04.08 at 10:18 pm
Something is starting to feel a little fishy…brb.
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kat, what are you up to?????????
TrishfromCanada 11.04.08 at 10:22 pm
clintondemocrat 11.04.08 at 10:20 pm
I hate everyone
—
ok Cartman, now who killed kenny
(South Park joke in case you’re not familiar with the show)
KarenWI 11.04.08 at 10:22 pm
You say we shouldn’t believe it unless it’s over 50%? Well, how’s this:
FL 67% reporting:
51 Obama
48 McCain
snowtiger007 11.04.08 at 10:22 pm
Night emmie =hugs=
Ario 11.04.08 at 10:22 pm
native….can u re ask that question…lol im to wired to wrap my head around the big words…lol
IndyBoomer 11.04.08 at 10:22 pm
A few minutes ago on Fox, they were talking about the Senate races, with Reid hoping for that 60-seat majority. They didn’t get it, with the races left to call. At least ONE branch of the government will not be in the tank. That’s the only good thing.
mountainsong 11.04.08 at 10:23 pm
Asian4Hillary Aren’t we in the same town?
SouthJerseyPUMA 11.04.08 at 10:23 pm
was lost downstairs… par for the day! I’m crawling into a hole now and will maybe come out again in 4 yrs..
I am so sad! Our country sold out to a CON-MAN!!!
Susie1945 11.04.08 at 10:23 pm
Okay PUMAS – what the hell is going on? Just got home from being election judge in MN – Was everybody who said they were voting for McPalin lyin’ or were they trolls and not PUMAS – what is happening ………………………..
jenniforhillary 11.04.08 at 10:24 pm
the whole world has lost its mind
TrishfromCanada 11.04.08 at 10:24 pm
Zee
Yes we hand count, but I think some areas have started trying the voting machines
hillstheone 11.04.08 at 10:24 pm
#326, Asian4Hillary,
Sounds like you are panicking, that is not like you. Take a deep breath, we’ve all seen how both parties are corrupt.
The Dem’s Axelrod = The Repub’s Rove.
But, if we stick together and continue to expose the corruption in the Democratic Party (how do we do this, you ask?) by exposing all the ways Obama has not been fully vetted – caucus fraud, voter fraud, and Especially, Birth Certificate & TERRORIST ties – there is No Way he can be sworn in, under our US Constitution, as President.
wewillwin 11.04.08 at 10:24 pm
kat in your hat
Yes, what are you up to?
ontherocks 11.04.08 at 10:24 pm
KarenWI 11.04.08 at 10:22 pm
You say we shouldn’t believe it unless it’s over 50%? Well, how’s this:
FL 67% reporting:
51 Obama
48 McCain
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Yes, but hopefully the last county in the panhandle goes red!!!
RememberNovember 11.04.08 at 10:24 pm
THE POLLS ARE STILL OPEN ON THE WEST COAST. I am so SICK of the media thinking we are irrelevant out here and projecting the winner while we are still voting. This is just one of many features of this undemocratic system that we have to change.
onebigmac 11.04.08 at 10:25 pm
looks like the man is going let obama chauffer the big cadillac for awhile until they have no more use for him..
obama can’t do shit hes a joke.. ..your life…my life will go on..business as usual.. aint shit going to change..business as usual folks..
little solace for those standing in the welfare line to get a check to feel their lives will change for the better.
snowtiger007 11.04.08 at 10:25 pm
SouthJerseyPUMA
South baby, you aren’t going anywhere. You are PUMA Now get your tail up.
mountainsong 11.04.08 at 10:25 pm
I think Hillary was a well thought out distraction strategy. They divided us right from the get go. That’s why she bailed when she could have won.
Asian4Hillary 11.04.08 at 10:25 pm
mountainsong
Yup! We are girlfriend! I am very very angry right now…….so goddamn angry I can kick my neighbor’s dawg!
I haven’t lost my faith on America, but i’ve fucking lost my faith with the American people!!!! TOO FUCKING COMPLAISANT!!! DAMN IT!!!!!!
newman 11.04.08 at 10:25 pm
Snowtiger, you don’t know PA. You don’t know Rendell. McCain doesn’t know PA and he doesn’t know Rendell. McCain’s campaign had problems. I heard that on the “street.” You. Were. Not. There.
Rendell was Mayor of Philly, he was DA of Philly, all before he was Governor. If some guy in Philly voted 3 times, where do you think that came from? Oh, that’s right, Frank Rizzo….. @@
ck 11.04.08 at 10:26 pm
#371 freddibrown — Amen to that post! Except, as someone ‘of a certain age’ myself, I disagree with calling McCain ‘the old guy.’ We’ve been fighting sexism as well as ageism in this election season. Need to stay united here.
Patty 11.04.08 at 10:26 pm
Susie it’s not who votes, It’s who counts the votes.
Susie1945 11.04.08 at 10:26 pm
Am I moving to Canada cuz I swear I will not live in this country if pimp is prez………………
we had a lot of new voters register & it took them all of about 2 seconds to vote – only voted for prez and nothing else – hope they burn in hell – was a double sided ballot -
Flasunshiner 11.04.08 at 10:26 pm
Escambia and Okaloosa County in the Panhandle have turned in their ballots, but no official reports yet.
hillstheone 11.04.08 at 10:26 pm
#371, Thank you, freddie, for that.
(((Freddie)))
mountainsong 11.04.08 at 10:26 pm
LOL, I could SHOOT my neighbor’s dog, and then him when he complained.
SouthJerseyPUMA 11.04.08 at 10:26 pm
It pisses me off that Florida, that had their votes stolen by the democratic party and “that one”, sould their soul to the very party that discounted their vote!!! amazing!!! GRRRRRRRRR!!!
kat in your hat 11.04.08 at 10:27 pm
Hold on, doe does.
Keep your feet on the ground. I understand every post. Just hold.
Casper Cat 11.04.08 at 10:27 pm
I worked my ass off for Hillary, I donated the Max and had all of my friends and family do the same… Well, Pumas I thought I would never say this but, I have taken down all of the posters of Hillary that I paid for and the T-shirts will go to charity and I am Finished with HILLARY…Folks she has sold us OUT in a BIG WAY!!!!!!!!!!I am a firm believer in life there are certain lines I would NEVER cross…But, Hillary has used all of us for her personal political gain…And, now she is doing exactly what she has preached in third world countries ….I am SOOOOOOOOOOOOO Disgusted!!!
RememberNovember 11.04.08 at 10:27 pm
Zee Trish
Seems that you have a much better system than we do. Does the media blackout actually work?
LilyMaid 11.04.08 at 10:27 pm
Tonight I give into despair. I can not try feeling better. Tomorrow I have no option but to take up my volunteer job and not let my hopelessness and helplessness interfer. Tomorrow I will begin with an attitude change. But not tonight.
Goodnight
jenniforhillary 11.04.08 at 10:28 pm
democracy is dead….killed by the democrats
Asian4Hillary 11.04.08 at 10:28 pm
hillstheone
I am not panicking! I am fucking angry!!!!!! People should know better control of congress and whitehouse of one party is death to USA especially NObama is extreme leftwingnuts!
People too goddamn loyal to their party as if goddamn political affiliation would put food on their table or pay their bills.
Flasunshiner 11.04.08 at 10:28 pm
Murtha lost.
snowtiger007 11.04.08 at 10:28 pm
newman
NO I don’t know PA. I do know that voting three times is a crime. If thats the way it was then there needs to be a major investigation.
wewillwin 11.04.08 at 10:28 pm
kat in your hat
What is going on??
SouthernGAL68 11.04.08 at 10:28 pm
KarenWI – I second Everything u said!
queen81 11.04.08 at 10:29 pm
hillstheone you still coming to atlanta soon?
mountainsong 11.04.08 at 10:29 pm
Susie1945 Yup, I saw people do that here, too.
jenniforhillary 11.04.08 at 10:29 pm
we should start planning the revolt NOW…
feebie 11.04.08 at 10:30 pm
jenniforhillary – democracy was killed by the “liberals” not the democrats. (And no, Im not talking about the REAL liberals). Im talking about the freaking socialist/communists masquarading as Democrats.
snowtiger007 11.04.08 at 10:30 pm
Really Kat. I have been on the edge of my seat sine you smelled somehting fishy.
Beca4Hillary 11.04.08 at 10:30 pm
OMG, PUMA site is bringing me back like Dracula sucking blood! I said goodnight few minutes ago, but then I read more and what got my attention is Asian’s comments about PUMAS voting for Obama, what the F….K? Why in the hell we have been doing over here for the past few months? What is the damm purpose? We put country first, not and idea or a movement, it is outrageous, what is coming for this country with an Obama nation will change our lifes!
RememberNovember 11.04.08 at 10:30 pm
Please, please never advocate for hurting an animal – even in jest
mimi1020 11.04.08 at 10:30 pm
A WORD FROM A FLORIDA PUMA
I REALLY DO THINK THAT FLA WILL GO MAC.
I HAVE NOT LOST ALL HOPE YET….I WANT COLD HARD NUMBERS.
I AM SOOOO DISAPPOINTED RIGHT NOW…..WHAT HAPPENED???? WHY ARE THESE PEOPLE – ESPECIALLY IN PA VOTING FOR A PARTY THAT CALLED THEM RACIST GUN CLINGERS???? WTF HAS HAPPENED IN THIS COUNTRY???? I AM IN A TOTALLY DIFFERENT DIMENSION…………
SCREW THE EXIT POLLS, I GOTTA SEE IT WITH MY OWN TWO EYES
jenniforhillary 11.04.08 at 10:30 pm
i will never vote for a democrat again…
i will never vote for a democrat again….
ever
fmster 11.04.08 at 10:30 pm
Asian4Hillary, I feel as you do. I am just too numb to express how I feel.
SouthJerseyPUMA 11.04.08 at 10:31 pm
400# opp’s … Florida sold their soul to the devil!!
hillstheone 11.04.08 at 10:31 pm
#406 Asian4Hillary,
Totally agree, it’s never a good idea to let one party control it all. I think I need a few more sips of my drink.
I wonder if NewOrleans PUMA is on tonite…NewOrleans, if you are on, it is going down very smoothly. And I’m glad I made it, I needed a drink like this!
thecatsmeow 11.04.08 at 10:31 pm
McCain now leading in North Carolina…
ontherocks 11.04.08 at 10:32 pm
jenniforhillary 11.04.08 at 10:30 pm
i will never vote for a democrat again…
i will never vote for a democrat again….
ever
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Here, Here!!!!!!! I am with you 100%!
snowtiger007 11.04.08 at 10:32 pm
thecatsmeow 11.04.08 at 10:31 pm
McCain now leading in North Carolina…
YESSS!!!
onebigmac 11.04.08 at 10:32 pm
obama made alot of deals..he better deliver the goods to the latinos who gave him a 2 to 1 margin over mac in this election….
his ass better deliver on those amnesty program and bilingual education programs he promised them or else those latinos are going to feel they’ve been betrayed and cheated by a lying con man..
Hill4me 11.04.08 at 10:32 pm
You know what pisses me off? It’s being here on the West Coast–only 7:30 pm, polls haven’t even closed yet, people still voting….and even you PUMA buddies are bearers of bad vibes.
Com’on guys! Give us PUMAs here on the other side of the country a break!
I’m leavin’ for awhile but will come back when at least a good part of the WEST has been counted.
Adios ’til later.
hillstheone 11.04.08 at 10:32 pm
#413 jenni, Yeah! Please, let’s change the subject.
What are your top ideas to get started on asap??!
newman 11.04.08 at 10:32 pm
Snowtiger, PA is an anomaly. And full of slick old boy politicians in both parties.
Flasunshiner – Murtha was just on the tube saying he won….?!
Oneof18million cracks... 11.04.08 at 10:33 pm
Asian4Hillary 11.04.08 at 10:13 pm
How can PUMAS reform the f’ing Democratic Party, when majority of PUMAS voted for Democratic down ticket! If you want to reform the Democratic Party, first thing you do is break it at the bottom going to the top!
My God people! A lot of you are so slow in the take what real politics is all about!
Do you think you can reform the Democratic Party now? That is a freaking pipedream!!!! BOTTOM LINE IS THIS! A LOT OF YOU ENABLE THE VERY CORRUPT PEOPLE WITHIN THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY AND VOTED THEM BACK INTO POWER!
Oh hell! You all can get mad at me, but sometimes a lot of you deserve a dose of BRUTAL REALITY!
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I take great offense to this but I am going to give you a pass only because I can see how angry you are.
This PUMA did NOT vote down ticket democratic, and I think it very assumptious of you to state the majority did. You seem to have an attitude of superior thinking to the majority of the PUMAs and are breaking the rule of NOT attacking fellow PUMAs.
I think everyone that wishes to post here needs to take a deep breath and remind themselves to repsect this blog and watch the vulgarity. We don’t need to attack each other because of a possible Obama win.
snowtiger007 11.04.08 at 10:33 pm
I want everyone to know,no matter what you are thinking, no matter what happens I will be a PUMA for life. I will not leave I will not shut up and I will not let my fellow PUMAS down.
I have only begun to fight.
“I yield not, I fight”
Nijma 11.04.08 at 10:33 pm
The best election results IMHO are from NPR here:
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/vote2008/primaries/states/
You can click on individual states and see the percent of the vote counted and who is ahead by how much.
Don’t forget the cities report first and they go more Democratic. The rural areas take longer to report and are more Republican. So any shift towards McCain will be reported later in the evening.
ontherocks 11.04.08 at 10:33 pm
47% MCain 52% O
5% difference it was 7% about 15 minutes ago.
Asian4Hillary 11.04.08 at 10:33 pm
You all better start praying McCain will win, he’s the only one who can STOP the Democratic controlled Congress to totally push this country down at the bottom of the ocean!
freddiebrown 11.04.08 at 10:34 pm
CK – You got me completely wrong. I don’t know how to put it, but I have felt really really proud of McCain because of his age and being up there every day. I use “old man” as a comparison to illustrate that even an oldie like him can beat a young fart that uses his youth against McCain. I have Extreme compassion and appreciation for age and absolutely respect that age deserves special handling. In fact, when this is over, I will volunteer for meals on wheels – have always wanted to do that.
SouthJerseyPUMA 11.04.08 at 10:34 pm
and then I have that ex-friend of mine texting me~ we won PA.. we won NY !!! GRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!! and GRRRRRR!!!!!!! again!!! I told her stop blowing up my phone!!! Like I dont know whats going on!!! He may be her president, but he will NEVER be mine!!!!!!!! NEVER!! I will hang my flag upside down for the next 4 yrs!!!!
mountainsong 11.04.08 at 10:34 pm
Hon, I got news for you~~~it’s been in the ‘planning’ since Bill Clinton got elected.
hillstheone 11.04.08 at 10:35 pm
#411 queen81,
I sure am comin’ to Atlanta soon! I think antifish & I are gonna meet somewhere one night, I think (hope) it’s the Wednesday night BEFORE Thanksgiving week starts, the 19th I think. Wanna meet up?
ontherocks 11.04.08 at 10:35 pm
Asian4Hillary 11.04.08 at 10:33 pm
You all better start praying McCain will win, he’s the only one who can STOP the Democratic controlled Congress to totally push this country down at the bottom of the ocean!
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I am
Anna7000 11.04.08 at 10:35 pm
FREDDIE:
Your words are wise: “Look – we all want a win.
But look at what the old guy John McCain spent – 80+ something million compared to what that idiot spent 600 Million and only 1% difference in the popular vote.
If you ask me, I will tell you McCain won against odds stacked against him. It gives me hope that not everyone was in the tank. I find comfort in that.”
I felt the same with O against Hillary. He had way more money than her + the media in the tank + the DNC in the tank + voter fraud and she still won. I think it does say a lot that the popular vote is looking very very close. And, if O becomes the next President, he won’t be able to use the “mandate” word if the popular vote remains very very tight.
notfollowinthepiedpiper 11.04.08 at 10:35 pm
That charlatan will never be my president. The fact that he has gotten this far, already makes me feel like I am a stranger in a foreign land. Ayers and Farrakhan are laughing and gloating over the sale of the United States of America to the highest bidder. What Ayers and Dohrn were not able to do with bombs, they are about to pull off through carefully planned infiltration into our education system. Obama is nothing more than a narcissistic, opportunist who was willing to be used by ANYONE, as long as it moved him to a higher plane where his ego can continue to expand exponentially. My only consolation is that we have done everything humanly possible to save our country from this horrible fate. In the remaining 77 days of the Bush presidency (who’d have ever thought I’d mourn the day when he leaves office?) I can only hope and pray that something will happen to prevent BO from taking the oath of office. Don’t know what that would be, considering how he has gotten away with so much already — he is apparently above the sacred laws of this land I have loved so much. God help us.
SouthJerseyPUMA 11.04.08 at 10:36 pm
love you snowtiger007!!!
ontherocks 11.04.08 at 10:36 pm
SouthJerseyPUMA 11.04.08 at 10:34 pm
He may be her president, but he will NEVER be mine!!!!!!!! NEVER!! I will hang my flag upside down for the next 4 yrs!!!!
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LMAO. I am sure you are not alone in your feelings.
ajane 11.04.08 at 10:36 pm
Ok This is one republican that did not want the a??hole to win. And I can speak for alot of people I know that feel the same way. I really want to thank all of you. One thing is for sure the piece of shit did only one thing right, he brought us together. Your encouragement your fight your spirit has kept me so strong until tonight. I thank you from the bottom of my heart for all your hard work. The only thing I know to do now is Pray.
TerryDo 11.04.08 at 10:37 pm
IF I HAVE TO LISTEN TO ANOTHER DUMP TALKING HEAD AGAIN I WILL SHOT THEM THROUGH MY T.V.
The self-righteous attitudes as if they have all the answers and how they nod and smile at each other, nauseating to say the least.
You know what the new voting process should be is that you randomly chose 10% to 25% of the population, of each state whichever number is more realistic and reflects the normal amount of citizens that vote.
Then you the government, mails them a voting card and they the Citizens will with their votes, chose the next president, senators, congressmen et al…
That would save a fortune and months and months of torcher…
Asian4Hillary 11.04.08 at 10:37 pm
Oneof18million cracks
Majority of PUMAS voted Democrats down ticket, I didn’t! I voted straight Republican ticket because I KNEW the only way to reform the Democratic Party is to break it at the bottom!
freddiebrown 11.04.08 at 10:37 pm
I think some of you guys should think about going into politics and run for office. Start at the bottom if necessary but we need good people.
queen81 11.04.08 at 10:37 pm
#438 hillstheone,
count me in! Antifish has my email addy
EWard 11.04.08 at 10:37 pm
Cheating in the caucuses and GE, buying votes, accepting illegal donations, and demeaning the voters of your own nation equals victory for Bozo. This country is headed for disaster. I’m joining the Republican Party. I agree with CasperCat, I could never support Hillary again.
Bozo and the DP have unlimited power. Doesn’t that make you feel secure?
Kerri 11.04.08 at 10:38 pm
And are any of you wondering HOW…PA, for instance. How did Zero blow out that state like that? It doesn’t jive with what we were hearing.
Someone…please, help me. I can’t take it. Come to chat and keep me sane?
oscarp 11.04.08 at 10:38 pm
stopped watching FOX a while ago, it is hard to believe or watch, I still don’t get how they can predict these results with so little info, at least such small percentages already in, but I guess I don’t know anything on how to call the election. Still have hope that as many have said, these are based on exit polls and not on real numbers, if that is the case, can the electoral votes change by the time the night moves on?
onebigmac 11.04.08 at 10:38 pm
hey..look at it this way… the sweetest revenge is like wine that takes time to mature.. it tastes sweetest when its aged..
hell wont it be sweet to take down obama and watch him get destroyed little by little….
give the sucker a little taste of his own medicine..see how he likes it..because thats exactly whats going to happen to him..
jenniforhillary 11.04.08 at 10:39 pm
democracy is crying
LeeinUSA 11.04.08 at 10:39 pm
SouthJerseyPUMA 11.04.08 at 10:34 pm
and then I have that ex-friend of mine texting me~ we won PA.. we won NY !!! GRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!! and GRRRRRR!!!!!!! again!!! I told her stop blowing up my phone!!! Like I dont know whats going on!!! He may be her president, but he will NEVER be mine!!!!!!!! NEVER!! I will hang my flag upside down for the next 4 yrs!!!!
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I plan to hang my flag upside down too, let’s all do it for 4 years, if (GOD FORBID) SATAN wins!
I am pulling out all my savings, cd’s & selling my stock, the market will crash. Newsmax has been reporting this for months, everyone will sell their stock, before SATAN takes 39% of it!
DancesWithPumas 11.04.08 at 10:39 pm
TAKE A LOOK HERE:
http://shots.snap.com/explore/41682/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.marstonchronicles.info%2Findex.php%3Foption%3Dcom_content%26task%3Dview%26id%3D95%26Itemid%3D119&key=e5a3c1e6dff5de35b1c6e7c470411886&src=pub-2311827-www.wordpress.com&cp=&tol=image
ontherocks 11.04.08 at 10:39 pm
Asian4Hillary 11.04.08 at 10:37 pm
Oneof18million cracks
Majority of PUMAS voted Democrats down ticket, I didn’t! I voted straight Republican ticket because I KNEW the only way to reform the Democratic Party is to break it at the bottom!
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I voted Republican all the way. The DNC is no more.
Zee 11.04.08 at 10:39 pm
HiHat, thanks for your words about women!
And your prediction:
“The media will call this Election at 11:00 pm. EST. Then, That One will give his victory speech just after Midnight.”
Dead on….I told my son this earlier. They want to fit everything into their schedule.
The media became tabloid with the Nancy Kerrigan story. OJ was soon after. I was calling them up and yelling at them then. Briefly, they even re-enacted crime scenes, like some produced drama show! I guess more than just me called and screamed at them then!
Today I raked leaves in the beautiful weather and made dinner for my son’s visit, his first time voting. This is a long haul we’re on, people. And never forget, it bubbles up from the bottom. Top-down is not a way of lasting change.
This isn’t over.
Casper Cat 11.04.08 at 10:39 pm
Correction, The posters of Hillary I purchased and the other stuff and T-shirts will be in the morning Trash come tommorrow…I am just sooooooooooooooooooooooooooDisgusted with her right now and bill too…NO WAY WILL I EVER BECOME A DEMOCRAT AGAIN…..FOLKS IT IS OVER, AND I MEAN OVER, OVER…
scarolina 11.04.08 at 10:40 pm
Psychic updated her blog (for what it’s worth) I think she is as frustrated as we are.
http://www.michellewhitedove.com/Blog-NOV3Election2008.php
snowtiger007 11.04.08 at 10:40 pm
ontherocks 11.04.08 at 10:33 pm
47% MCain 52% O
5% difference it was 7% about 15 minutes ago.
where a re you talking about?
Back at you south
ck 11.04.08 at 10:40 pm
#435 freddiebrown — Thanks for the clarification. No harm, no foul. I agree with the rest of your assessment of this election contest. Also, I appreciate your always-positive outlook. BTW, I thought you were extremely courageous in holding up the signs near the SD fwy. I lived in CA for many years and certainly recognize how risky that was. You are one brave, creative PUMA!
Patty 11.04.08 at 10:40 pm
Well Pumas my nightmare has already begun, so I may as well go to sleep.
See ya in the morning.
GBPuma 11.04.08 at 10:40 pm
PUMA DO NOT DISPAIR!!!!!!
DO NOT BELIEVE WHAT YOU HEAR FROM THE MEDIA TONIGHT.
1st they are reporting from exit polls and not the vote count.
2nd there are as much as 30% absentee ballots that for some states are not even counted or due for 10-15days yet.
And here you are as I always do I release my astro report on the night of elections:
Do not be surprised if you go to sleep believing Obama won and wake up in the next 2 weeks with John McCain as the next President….The Dewey/Truman effect of over zealous media.
If Obama is declared a large winner tonight he DEFINITELY was born in Africa and not Hawaii…..his African chart shows much greater success and happiness tonight than the HI chart.
The charts show Happiness that is short lived and dilusional illusionary for Obama with GREAT losses and troubles and separations and restrictions to come…..it is showing that Jan 20th is not a happy day for him and that there is the possibility of being locked up/incarcerated within the next year. There will be great change in fortune and happiness in the days and months to come for Obama.
There will be much legal issues to come and much deception from and surrounding Obama.
It shows that we will most likely have a “Dewey beats Truman” with the legal uncertainties of the 2000 election combined by morning and will go on for the next month or more. It does show that he may never see Jan 20th through many causes but his health is not good. It shows that his happiness will be taken from him and great strife and immense troubles will surround him and all happiness will disappear.
For John McCain today start a great period of happiness and it is even so much GREATER on Jan 20…..and the next 2 years ahead for McCain are great for his successes and public image. It does show that his happiness will be attempted to be suppress but all clouds will be replaced with bright sun within the next month and increasing throughout the next 2 years. He will experience difficulties due to resistance and deception. Though in the end McCain will be elated and great happiness though must weather some struggles which will be over come within the next month and will have luck and success.
SO beware of reports tonight and into the next month things will be changing for both to the negative and great negative for Obama and for the Great positive for McCain.
justnotright 11.04.08 at 10:41 pm
I will wait until every vote is counted.
I have no interest in the tv commentators.
I’ve seen projections like this fall apart before.
That said, I’ve seen some of the results from Pennsylvania and I have to say I’m disappointed from what I’ve seen so far.
I can’t get into the Obama voter’s mindset. I just can’t. His candidacy was and is, a farce. If he wins, he has proven that you really can buy an election.
michelina 11.04.08 at 10:41 pm
I SURE DON’T KNOW what you are all looking at:
But what I’m seeing: THIS RACE IS TIED, and we were told it was GOING to be CLOSE.
HAVE A GLASS OF WINE, I am, and I’m laughing at your comments.
ASIAN: You kicking a DAWG———-never see it from you, but you made me laugh !!!–Of did you mean BIG DAWG !!!!—him I could understand.
Have a drink, it helps.
Asian4Hillary 11.04.08 at 10:41 pm
jenniforhillary
You got that right girl. You know i’m just shaking my head here, but sometimes I think people must experience REAL SUFFERINGS so they’ll understand and treasure next time the freedom they have. It looks like a lot of them would soon be experiencing what I’d been through that killed 15 of my friends. I hope they’ll survive and still emotionally intact.
snowtiger007 11.04.08 at 10:41 pm
I ,lost my link to puma caht can sone one post it please?
ontherocks 11.04.08 at 10:42 pm
snowtiger007 11.04.08 at 10:40 pm
ontherocks 11.04.08 at 10:33 pm
47% MCain 52% O
5% difference it was 7% about 15 minutes ago.
where a re you talking about?
Back at you south
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Oh shit I forgot to put OH. I guess I need to put down the Bailey’s. LOL
snowtiger007 11.04.08 at 10:42 pm
chat*
michelina 11.04.08 at 10:42 pm
DAMN TYPOS, DAMN WINE: “OR” DID YOU MEAN BIG DAWG !!
snowtiger007 11.04.08 at 10:43 pm
ontherocks
lol. Add some Hot damn and throw it over ice. delicious.
SouthJerseyPUMA 11.04.08 at 10:43 pm
omg… i thought Mac had VA!! they just gave it to that one!!!!!!!
Asian4Hillary 11.04.08 at 10:43 pm
michelina
My neighbor has a dawg, I have a dawg too…but…..its a stuff animal. I name my beautiful dog GUARDIAN.,…HAHAHAHAHA!
EWard 11.04.08 at 10:43 pm
Obama does not play by the rules. What difference does it make if the popular vote is close? He will steal, manipulate, and do whatever it takes to keep power. We saw outright fraud taking place to steal this election with the help of the lunatic media, corrupt money, the DP and gullible and ignorant voters. We deserve this train wreck.
justnotright 11.04.08 at 10:43 pm
463 GBPuma
This happened to me once before, when Netanyahu beat Peres in Israel in 1996. All TV stations had already announced that Peres had won the election. In the middle of the night, the results showed the exit polls were wrong and Israel awoke to a different outcome than the one they went to bed to.
onebigmac 11.04.08 at 10:43 pm
the only people that will benefit from an obama presidency will be welfare types,bums and those looking for a handout.. that makes all the rest of us a huge enemy of obama who are going to get really pisssed off..
newman 11.04.08 at 10:43 pm
Oneof18million #430-
This PUMA did NOT vote down ticket democratic, and I think it very assumptious of you to state the majority did.
I would also venture to say that the great majority of us did not. But of the people I talked to today who did vote for BO, it was because of what Bush has done to this country. Where I live, most do not read blogs, let alone political blogs. We are talking rural folk who don’t necessarily own computers, for that matter.
Oh, and I’d say 99% of all the people I talked to had never even HEARD of the PUMAs. I’d say that’s where PUMA has to start.
Ario 11.04.08 at 10:43 pm
im turnin the tv off
ontherocks 11.04.08 at 10:44 pm
snowtiger007 11.04.08 at 10:43 pm
ontherocks
lol. Add some Hot damn and throw it over ice. delicious.
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I will have try that. Right now I am drinking it with Bushmills over ice.
Kerri 11.04.08 at 10:44 pm
H E L P
I’ve been busy working to get Zero destroyed and have come to the pac tonight because my soul is being raped at this moment. Where are my PUMA’s? I need some glue to keep these pieces from just flying apart…I’m shattered and Obama’s foot is raised to send my fragments scattered into oblivion never to be reassembled.
hillstheone 11.04.08 at 10:44 pm
Article II of the United States Constitution:
“Article II
Section 1. The executive power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America. He shall hold his office during the term of four years, and, together with the Vice President, chosen for the same term, be elected, as follows:
…No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty five years, and been fourteen Years a resident within the United States.”
TrishfromCanada 11.04.08 at 10:44 pm
RememberNovember
It really does work, I’m not sure what the fines are but i think its a monetary fine plus they can lose their broadcasting licence for a period of time.
onebigmac 11.04.08 at 10:44 pm
forget the booze.. i just drank a cup of coffee and ate some peach pie..i feel fine thank you
TXRepGirl 11.04.08 at 10:44 pm
Does anyone know where kat went?
She should write novels her cliff-hangers are so good…
thecatsmeow 11.04.08 at 10:44 pm
Hooray! McCain still up in NC (now by even more) and 86% of the votes reported!
ajane 11.04.08 at 10:45 pm
One final word before I log out: Thank you Hillary Clinton and John McCain. You both were very honorable People and we took the ride with you. God knows both of you are far better than this idiot. Its a fallacy that the Best “man” “woman” wins. But I do thank you for the ride. You both will be in the history books.
normapapuma 11.04.08 at 10:45 pm
Hey, PA was a hope. It’s a blue state and we almost flipped it. Blame Bush for Oblabla’s “victory”. Bush is so, uhm, disliked, and BO’s incredible talent for lying.
Why no Hannity tonight?
Party Unity... got Kool-aid? 11.04.08 at 10:45 pm
to TerryDo 11.04.08 at 9:49 pm
THAT IS NOT NICE AT ALL! YOU CAN BE SAD WITHOUT PUTTING A CURSE ON SOMEONE.
Having survived 8 Bush years – Four years is a “few days” no curse intended on the Precious.
ontherocks 11.04.08 at 10:45 pm
I hope McCain does not jsut call it a night and give this election to themanIcan’tstand.
snowtiger007 11.04.08 at 10:46 pm
onebigmac
I got yuban on an i.v. atm.
oscarp 11.04.08 at 10:46 pm
well, my PUMA family, I am going to bed, hopefully, as soma have said, I might wake up tomorrow and we will have McCain as president. That would be great news!1 it has been a long and intense day for us, I have never wanted to see people wrong as this time, when everybody predicts BO as the winner, so hopefully tomorrow will be another day. At least I am free of remorse, I voted Republican all the way!!! I guess it will halp me sleep better if the worst comes. I hope it won’t!! Sleep well my PUMA family, and let’s continue being a family!!! God bless us all!!!
EWard 11.04.08 at 10:47 pm
GB Puma
Even if he’s not a citizen or some negative story emerges, the media will not cover it.
snowtiger007 11.04.08 at 10:47 pm
oscarp
Good night
justnotright 11.04.08 at 10:47 pm
If Obama wins, I will not vote Democrat again. I will not forget what they did to get us to this day.
At least I live in Australia and can tune out the foreign news. If Obama wins, I will feel bad for those of us who will have to see a constant reminder of the outrage of this election constantly on TV and in the news.
We may never learn where Obama’s illegal contributions came from. No journalist will ever try to find out, that’s a given.
Oneof18million cracks... 11.04.08 at 10:47 pm
We did all that we could do. If Obama does win this it will be because of media bias, and people refusing to be involved
and informed. Each of you probably can name at least one person up until today that you needed to inform of the real Obama because they were not willing to be involved. All they knew is they wanted the Republicans out! They blamed Bush for everything and when the stock market crisis hit and they lost their retirements that was the deciding factor.
McCain was on the rise until the stock market. NO ONE cared or understood what part the democrats played in it. All they saw was Bush was in office. So although I am not claiming defeat at this moment. If it is a defeat I can understand WHY.
HP Boston 11.04.08 at 10:47 pm
freddiebrown 11.04.08 at 10:21 pm
Look – we all want a win.
But look at what the old guy John McCain spent – 80+ something million compared to what that idiot spent 600 Million and only 1% difference in the popular vote.
If you ask me, I will tell you McCain won against odds stacked against him. It gives me hope that not everyone was in the tank. I find comfort in that.
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Freddie you are a most awesome Puma. It has been an honor to watch you work so hard and be so brave and you are loved by all Pumas.
I am aghast, sad, demoralized that my voting for NO dem had no impact whatsoever. A vote gives me very little power. I am left immobilized and terrified.
mimi1020 11.04.08 at 10:48 pm
WELL KIDS, NOT LOOKING TOO GREAT RIGHT NOW.
THESE FUCKING DEM LEADERS HAVE MANAGED TO STEAL THE PRESIDENCY,
MAYBE, AND YES – I SAID FUCKING.
I AM SOOOOOO PIST AT THIS MORONIC IDIOTIC COUNTRY WE LIVE IN NOW!
MAYBE I WILL MOVE TO ALASKA.
Zee 11.04.08 at 10:48 pm
“some areas have started trying the voting machines”
Sorry to hear that, Trish…Canada may be in for a world of hurt…!
EWard 11.04.08 at 10:48 pm
I blame the American voters and the media that voted for Bozo.
onebigmac 11.04.08 at 10:48 pm
kerri.. look at it this way.. the games have just begun to destroy obama…now we have 4 years to destroy him more thoroughly..we have our work cut out for use to expose obama the con man crook and fraud..
no more hope and change bullshit..
its SHOWTIME!!
TXRepGirl 11.04.08 at 10:48 pm
Hold up. Did they just call California for McCain?! That’s what it says on the fox map.
http://elections.foxnews.com/states_map/index.html
Right? Or am I not reading that right?
SouthernGAL68 11.04.08 at 10:48 pm
Kerri,
I suppose that we all feel shattered at this momment – I know I do! I pray that GBPuma is right and Obama’s victory is short lived!
justnotright 11.04.08 at 10:49 pm
They are calling the election for Obama while people are still voting just like they called the primaries for Obama while Hillary was still winning primaries.
God I hate the media.
SouthernGAL68 11.04.08 at 10:49 pm
onebigmac – right on!
KarenWI 11.04.08 at 10:50 pm
The ONLY way I can accept that America would vote Obama in is if it was STOLEN BY ACORN for him. That’s how he could be so cocky and confident… because he KNEW that ACORN would pull him through to the presidency. I feel in my gut that Obama STOLE this election…… but what can we do????????????
feeling_invisible 11.04.08 at 10:50 pm
I am an Independent who strongly supported Hillary, and fully agree that she has basically allowed herself to be thrown under the bus to meet her own agenda. The robo-call that McCain used of her voice was HER WORDS. How does she desert her beliefs around so quickly?
CNN tonight said that over 90% of Hillary supporters (I think it was 96%) in Ohio went for Obama. Have they drunk the kool-aid too?
The media has drunk the kool-aid from day one. And Obama supporters I have come across have been very haughty, full of themselves, and devoid of substance.
Axelrod pisses me off.
This whole evening pisses me off. We’re moving from racism, but ageism and sexism is still plenty a-ok in this America.
I want to cry.
mijabsnji 11.04.08 at 10:50 pm
I can’t live here for 4 years with him leading the country, help where can we live well on social security? I’ll go!
Zee 11.04.08 at 10:51 pm
Mimi….are there any hot springs in Alaska? I will move, too!
Did they give VA to the OMessiah?
I don’t think I will go home for Xmas.
goingtoMcVote 11.04.08 at 10:51 pm
I think they need to post NC, Indiana, NE and SD for McCain but media is SANDBAGGING on POSTING MCCAIN EV!!
He’s totally got NC and Indiana
snowtiger007 11.04.08 at 10:51 pm
TXRepGirl
Ca for Mccain? huh?
scarolina 11.04.08 at 10:51 pm
GBPuma 11.04.08 at 10:40 pm
You wrote-
And here you are as I always do I release my astro report on the night of elections:
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Do you see the same as Michelle Whitedove (psychic)? I added a link to her latest blog (above #459)
NoObo 11.04.08 at 10:52 pm
I voted Repub down ticket too. I was going to vote dem down ticket, but after the convention….I decided the DNC wasn’t in it for me..
ontherocks 11.04.08 at 10:52 pm
mijabsnji 11.04.08 at 10:50 pm
I can’t live here for 4 years with him leading the country, help where can we live well on social security? I’ll go!
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Mexico maybe. Some nice small island with no TV. LOL
feeling_invisible 11.04.08 at 10:52 pm
What about Virginia??
gumbykat 11.04.08 at 10:52 pm
jenniforhillary 11.04.08 at 10:30 pm
i will never vote for a democrat again…
i will never vote for a democrat again….
ever
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Me either. I am just sick! I am so glad I voted straight Republican.
snowtiger007 11.04.08 at 10:53 pm
Whats this Ca for Mccan someone tell me.
thecatsmeow 11.04.08 at 10:53 pm
Florida is getting closer now, and even somewhat closer in Ohio…watch the REAL count, dear PUMAs!
Flasunshiner 11.04.08 at 10:53 pm
GBPuma 463
Are you an astrologer, too? You support what I have suspected for a long time.
I totally agree that barry was born in Kenya. I saw that as well. He was not born in Hawaii. He is also into drugs right now. That is why he is so nervous and twitchy. I will go out on a limb and no doubt people will think I am strange but I will make the statement that barry is a repeat of history.
History repeats itself every 2,000 years. There is an old say that those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it. We are on the same time line as Augustus Caeser, the fall of the Roman Empire. This is the end of a very tumultuous cycle astrologically, and I for one am happy to see it end.
TXRepGirl 11.04.08 at 10:53 pm
Go look at that map. They called it on there for McCain.
onebigmac 11.04.08 at 10:53 pm
dont forget folks.. for every action there is an oppsite and equal reaction.. the payback is going to be a bitch mr obozo and company..obama ..you have feet of clay..you are a joke.. you will be used and thrown away by the man like yesterdays trash because you have feet of clay…you have no real power..
all you are is just a hired chauffer that is allowed to drive the mans big cadillac..thats it mr obozo
freddiebrown 11.04.08 at 10:54 pm
I had to turn the TV off. I have been very calm but might go ballistic if I watch any victory speech.
I look forward to the day when his victory is no more. Everthing comes to an end – sooner or later.
feeling_invisible 11.04.08 at 10:54 pm
Never voted for a Republican before-glad I did today-John McCain has got what it takes, too bad people have been blindsighted by sheer pretty packaging—it’s got a beautiful bow at the top, shimmering gift wrap-you open the box and what do you have
HOT AIR
ontherocks 11.04.08 at 10:54 pm
TXRepGirl 11.04.08 at 10:53 pm
Go look at that map. They called it on there for McCain.
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What map?
snowtiger007 11.04.08 at 10:55 pm
Go look at that map. They called it on there for McCain.
I can t get nayhitng, Thay called Cali for Mccain?
OMG
OMG
OMG
TXRepGirl 11.04.08 at 10:55 pm
I have no idea why. I’m not sure the polls are even closed. And I’m not trying to give false hope or anything really. Just wondering what anyone else knows.
mijabsnji 11.04.08 at 10:55 pm
ontherocks
No joke we were talking about mexico but my hubby said it is bad there now with the drug lords, I heard you can live really well down there cheap.
snowtiger007 11.04.08 at 10:56 pm
Hold up. Did they just call California for McCain?! That’s what it says on the fox map.
http://elections.foxnews.com/states_map/index.html
Right? Or am I not reading that right?
THis map
feeling_invisible 11.04.08 at 10:56 pm
Hey guys-sorry I can’t look at any map right now-too upset–
so are you saying McCain won VA? I surely hope so.
Casper Cat 11.04.08 at 10:56 pm
HOW CAN AMERICAN PEOPLE BE SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSTUPID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!OUTRAGEOUS……DOES THIS MEAN THE AVERAGE AMERICAN VOTER HAS AN IQ OF 10?????????HOW SAD, AND YOU KNOW I WILL NOT FEEL SORRY FOR ANY OF THEM…SHIT WILL HIT THE FAN BELIEVE ME…MAYBE, WE CAN IMPEACH THE “GOODFORNOTHINGLYINGPIECEOFSHITTHATHASEVERRUNFORPRESIDENTANDDOESNTGIVEASHITABOUTTHEAMERICANPEOPLE…
bythelake 11.04.08 at 10:56 pm
Just received this email from another blog;
NO JOKE! I just heard on 770am (Mark Simone)that BILL AYERS has alerted the media that hes on his way in Chicago to join Obama at his party! There you have it, patriots! YOUR FIRST SLAP IN THE FACE!
newman 11.04.08 at 10:56 pm
The Fox Map. They did call it on the map, but not on TV.
LaureyPuma 11.04.08 at 10:56 pm
Dear Pumas,
I am in California and just voted, I also came home and had a stiff drink. What is going on. What is the latest. I cannot hear bad news except from Puma.
Laurey
kre8tr 11.04.08 at 10:57 pm
Mimi1020, you sound like what the libs are supposed to sound like. I mean you don’t really hate your country, do you? That’s not right. Rush says they are the America haters. Buck up, girl. We’ll be OK. (Sob)
TerryDo 11.04.08 at 10:57 pm
SouthJerseyPUMA 11.04.08 at 10:43 pm
omg… i thought Mac had VA!! they just gave it to that one!!!!!!!
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Apparently 92% of racist blacks and Independents gave it to Obama
Oneof18million cracks... 11.04.08 at 10:57 pm
Kerri 11.04.08 at 10:44 pm
H E L P
_______________________________________
We are all here for you. Just keep posting.
KarenWI 11.04.08 at 10:57 pm
#518- what a joke! With a president Obama and a Pelosi and crew with a huge majority, they have unlimited power… freedom of speech is the first to go; then our taxes; then our jobs; then our guns; What GOOD will it do? People who say people will take him out in 4 years and things will be back to normal are stark raving mad. He and his cronies will change the laws…. they will change the term limits, the constitution, everything…. so that we will be unable to do ANYTHING to get them out of there. That is, IF we survive the third world war (nuclear) that we’ll be engaged in because of what Israel will have to do because of America having a Mulim president. It’s time for reality guys…. !
TXRepGirl 11.04.08 at 10:58 pm
This map…
http://elections.foxnews.com/states_map/index.html
Minutes ago California was RED with a check mark by McCain’s name. Now I can’t get the map to be ANY color.
Kat where are you? What’s going on?
snowtiger007 11.04.08 at 10:58 pm
newman 11.04.08 at 10:56 pm
The Fox Map. They did call it on the map, but not on TV.
HOLY SHIT. NEWMAN I LOVE YOU MAN!!!!!
normapapuma 11.04.08 at 10:58 pm
#464 Justnotright
You hit it on the head. He bought the election. Now unions and corporations will go right back to lobbying, earmarks galore for Obama supporting districts, etc. What will happen to our budget, the troops overseas, who knows? What on earth we can do, I don’t know… unless we continue to work with Republicans? We’ll form a PUMA Underground, like Hannity’s Conservative Underground! Let’s wait for the dust to settle.
onebigmac 11.04.08 at 10:58 pm
look people.. even if obama wins..its not the end of the world.. aint nothing going to really change..same old shit.. believe me.. obama is a joke and this election is a joke..
our lives and society will go on its way and nothing will change except create a hell of a lot more pissed off and angry people who want to destroy obama and his ilk
KarenWI 11.04.08 at 10:58 pm
By giving OH, PA, now VA, and probably FL to “the one” it is, guys… a landslide.
HiHat 11.04.08 at 10:58 pm
2 minutes, folks.
Turn off your TV now, if you don’t wanna see the Media Frenzy. Tripping over themselves to declare THAT ONE won.
newman 11.04.08 at 10:59 pm
The polls aren’t closed in CA yet, Fox just said that they are waiting, I don’t think they are calling it yet.
feeling_invisible 11.04.08 at 10:59 pm
TerryDo-please say it ain’t so!!!! My parents and I voted for Mac in VA—-what is going on????
You know they mentioned lawsuits and electornic voting probs in our state earlier tonight..
newman 11.04.08 at 10:59 pm
Snowtiger, I am not a man….lol….
Sunshinelvr 11.04.08 at 11:00 pm
I voted straight republican ticket also..NOne of the other Dems stood up and counted themseleves for Hillary or for us or for AMERICA and I said f-it if I would stand up for them! I voted straight republican and am proud of it!
KarenWI 11.04.08 at 11:00 pm
onebigmac- you are living in a dream world. Obama, Pelosi et al have us in the palm of their hands now and all the power in the world… do you honestly think they aren’t going to do everything in their power to change laws to make sure they can NEVER lose that power again?????????????????
DancesWithPumas 11.04.08 at 11:00 pm
Flasunshiner
I hosted a radio program in 1986or 87… two astrologers discussing the return of the slowest planet (Jupiter?)…
they said, at that time that all our relationships would be called into question… relationsip to money, life, power, authority, etc. That since the planets cysle took so many decades… it’s effects on us would be felt for many years…
I’m sorry I don’t recall that much about it, but, I’m wondering… does this ring a bell for you?
Margenau 11.04.08 at 11:00 pm
My mother just called to express her “relief” over the so-called O win. I pretty much exploded. She then accused me of “taking things for granted,” at which point I hung up on her.
TerryDo 11.04.08 at 11:00 pm
They just gave California to Obama
and he is the new president of America
ontherocks 11.04.08 at 11:00 pm
onebigmac 11.04.08 at 10:58 pm
look people.. even if obama wins..its not the end of the world.. aint nothing going to really change..same old shit.. believe me.. obama is a joke and this election is a joke..
our lives and society will go on its way and nothing will change except create a hell of a lot more pissed off and angry people who want to destroy obama and his ilk
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Yes it will change. There will be an even bigger love fest with BO, then there is right now. YUCK!
snowtiger007 11.04.08 at 11:00 pm
newman
Just an expresion
snowtiger007 11.04.08 at 11:01 pm
They just gave California to Obama
and he is the new president of America
Thta sucks how did we get the info wrong?
bythelake 11.04.08 at 11:01 pm
well, i look at it like this….for the next four years i can point my finger and say i told you so. turning off my tv, am not watching that piece of shit accept any position for my president.
Love to all PUMAS.
Our work now is to keep shithead in line….
mijabsnji 11.04.08 at 11:01 pm
Lets all work off the books !
Ario 11.04.08 at 11:01 pm
i havent cried in yrs
IndyBoomer 11.04.08 at 11:01 pm
Fox just projected my f&@#***g state of California to put Obie over the top! I’m furious.
feeling_invisible 11.04.08 at 11:01 pm
HiHat, believe me I can’t watch any tv right now. Please guys keep the depressing updates coming.
Maybe Mac can still win Cali? One can only hope.
shampoovta 11.04.08 at 11:01 pm
Well, let the “I didn’t elect that guy you did” begin. What has changed? I give it 6 months. I will wait and watch. I have all the time in the world.
Congratulations Obama.
CTKEY 11.04.08 at 11:01 pm
It’s over. He’s #44.
Libby 11.04.08 at 11:02 pm
Chicago is having its party. Lets hope they all go home safe and then wake up to find out Obama lost.
BarbNOBO 11.04.08 at 11:02 pm
Fox just projected BO the president elect!! I am not surprised…another fraud election!!
notfollowinthepiedpiper 11.04.08 at 11:02 pm
http://abcnews.go.com/politics/
ABC called the west coast for BO and is giving him 284 electoral votes.
EWard 11.04.08 at 11:02 pm
#544 Margenau
I can sympathize with you. I will not talk to my friends that voted for this dictator.
feeling_invisible 11.04.08 at 11:02 pm
NOOO!!!!!!
newman 11.04.08 at 11:02 pm
OMG.
feeling_invisible 11.04.08 at 11:03 pm
Dewey defeats Truman…….
BarbNOBO 11.04.08 at 11:03 pm
My brother was right he said the “dumb mAsses” would elect him!!
ck 11.04.08 at 11:03 pm
Is anyone watching the results on c-span? Why do some of you insist on believing anything you see/hear on the MSM? Have they ever told the truth this year about anything? Why are you suddenly inclined to believe the hype? Does anyone have any results from c-span?
DancesWithPumas 11.04.08 at 11:03 pm
Polls in CA are open until 11PM
TXRepGirl 11.04.08 at 11:03 pm
Just curious. Did somebody chain kat in the basement?
HiHat 11.04.08 at 11:03 pm
Dear America,
Tonight, I weep for you.
Hat
snowtiger007 11.04.08 at 11:04 pm
notfollowinthepiedpiper 11.04.08 at 11:02 pm
http://abcnews.go.com/politics/
ABC called the west coast for BO and is giving him 284 electoral votes.
JUst 284?
carol 11.04.08 at 11:04 pm
I feel like a prisoner in this country. I just can’t stand the thought of a Pr…BO after surviving 4 years of the shrub. I really hate this man.
I wish I could afford to leave and then I wish I knew where to go.
This isn’t just an american problem …it’s a world problem.
We are outnumbered by lousy, stupid people and that includes members of my own family.
shampoovta 11.04.08 at 11:04 pm
So we are Puma rebels now. I can do that.
kre8tr 11.04.08 at 11:04 pm
Margenau,
You need to visit your mother and put your foot on her throat and teach her some respect. Then she won’t mess with you. But be nice about it.
onebigmac 11.04.08 at 11:04 pm
look.. dont be so depresssed..even if obama wins we have plenty of time to work to get his ass thrown out.. look at the long term ..its not the end of the world..we will win sooner or later..obama will fall because he is rotten and it will catch up with him sooner or later..
ontherocks 11.04.08 at 11:04 pm
First off I would like to say that I love you guys very much. Without you all I would have ended up in a padded room. No matter what happens we can still continue our fight. BO will NEVER have my respect. He is not my POTHUS! I will never think of him that way. My only hope is that he falls flat on his face. This is a joke half of the American people need to pull their heads out the sand.
I didn’t think they could call VA until after the military votes were tallied.
snowtiger007 11.04.08 at 11:04 pm
Kat is working on somehting
kat in your hat 11.04.08 at 11:04 pm
Gird your loins.
luckylady 11.04.08 at 11:05 pm
How can Obama win CA if the polls are still open?
KarenWI 11.04.08 at 11:05 pm
It’s over… and America is dead. God bless America, it’s sure going to need it now.
God Bless America,
Land that I love,
Stand beside her,
and guide her,
through the night with the light from above.
From the mountains,
to the prairies,
to the oceans white with foam….
God bless America,
my home sweet home,
God Bless America… my home sweet home………
kat in your hat 11.04.08 at 11:05 pm
Kat knows a few things. But right now we need to breathe.
feeling_invisible 11.04.08 at 11:05 pm
I will never support this flashin’ fake smilin’
hot-air a-blowin, brats-in-tow- a towin’ (no I do not think his brats are adorable), cranky-ass wife a-spewin’, shadily-associatin’, narcissistic power-hungry fraud.
Ario 11.04.08 at 11:05 pm
omg they r partying on my street…i feel ill…and all my friends that voted for him i will never talk to again
Oneof18million cracks... 11.04.08 at 11:05 pm
Did they really call California to McCain? I quit watching TV.
LeeinUSA 11.04.08 at 11:05 pm
Will this site even be here, will any free speech be allowed. How many of our children at 18 will have to go into his civilian army?
I AM SICK! THE USA IS GONE!
NoObo 11.04.08 at 11:05 pm
They still need to count all the votes…these are only predictions.
snowtiger007 11.04.08 at 11:06 pm
kat in your hat 11.04.08 at 11:05 pm
Kat knows a few things. But right now we need to breathe.
Kat baby oyu are killing me here
BarbNOBO 11.04.08 at 11:06 pm
I guess anyone that spent three-quarters of a billion dollars can have anything!!! This country has really gone to the dogs!! Thank you President Bush!!
catsarepumas 11.04.08 at 11:06 pm
NBC just called it for BO and is talking about him as our next POTUS.
carol 11.04.08 at 11:06 pm
I will be changing my registration from democrat to independent. I don’t want any part of the DNC. If enough of us do that, maybe they will get some kind of message.
KarenWI 11.04.08 at 11:06 pm
onebigmac- WILL YOU SHUT UP… you do NOT know what you are talking about! We just gave total and complete dictatorship power to Peloski, Reid, Dean, and Obama. They will NEVER let it go even if they have to change laws and the constitution in order to do so. SHUT UP with you lies!!!!!!!
onebigmac 11.04.08 at 11:06 pm
karenWI.. dont mourn..fight back!
feeling_invisible 11.04.08 at 11:06 pm
Ario I am with you.
Alice Rodham Puma 11.04.08 at 11:07 pm
They have called it for Zero.
antifish 11.04.08 at 11:07 pm
I don’t want to live in this country anymore. I’m moving to Europe.
GOSUEF4HIL 11.04.08 at 11:07 pm
well, tomorrow I am changing my registration to republican, so I have gone from dem to indy and now- I will be a republican.
We have let a man who spent 5 years as a POW lose to a hologram, we let the DNC take over. I am done. Good bye dems, I am still a PUMA but I have no hope for dems.
Hillary is done. And any PUMA here who didn’t vote for Mc- please re-examine your vote. Thanks a lot.
StarDust 11.04.08 at 11:07 pm
I think all Obama has to do is plant the enemy flag on US soil to take over the country. If he’s got the White House that’s probably where it will be.
snowtiger007 11.04.08 at 11:07 pm
Oneof18million cracks… 11.04.08 at 11:05 pm
Did they really call California to McCain? I quit watching TV.
NO was amistake , Gav eit to bobo
RedStateGuy 11.04.08 at 11:07 pm
Well the Democrat party got what they wanted, absolute power.
Welcome to the United Socialist States of America
goodnight.
freddiebrown 11.04.08 at 11:07 pm
Starting today, I look forward to the day when his victory is no more. Sooner or later, it will come to an end.
mijabsnji 11.04.08 at 11:07 pm
I can’t deal with it tonight, we are in big trouble for 4 years, I want to leavethis country, the people are crazy!
ontherocks 11.04.08 at 11:07 pm
All of the votes are not even fucking in yet!!
OMG! Okay now I am pissed!!
I want a bill passed about the media calling the election before all the polls ahve closed!
mountainsong 11.04.08 at 11:07 pm
On a more positive note~~~there is always the possibility that BIDEN will be the next president.
gumbykat 11.04.08 at 11:07 pm
Can you believe this? I live in Austin and I can hear fireworks. We are in a drought(fires), not to mention it illegal.
kat in your hat 11.04.08 at 11:08 pm
I wish he was just a black democrat.
kre8tr 11.04.08 at 11:08 pm
Kat in your hat…I’ve got poop in my pants. Now is not the time to breathe. Be very afraid!
KarenWI 11.04.08 at 11:08 pm
I’m sorry for blowing up at you, onebigmac- but you keep talking about this without understanding the ramifications of what it’ll be like with total control to the far left looney dems.. who will NEVER give that power back!!! I shouldn’t have blown up, though.
feeling_invisible 11.04.08 at 11:08 pm
Feeling worse than invisible. Feeling dead!
snowtiger007 11.04.08 at 11:08 pm
KarenWI
Take a deep breath.
luckylady 11.04.08 at 11:08 pm
I will never vote as a democrat again. I can’t believe people don’t care about the character or morals our elected officials should stand for. I can only hope that the appeal on the Lawsuit (Phil Berg) is really considered and not dismissed. If our Supreme Court can’t stand for the Constitution then we have nothing left.
Margenau 11.04.08 at 11:08 pm
There are girls in my building squealing/screaming in delight right now, am on verge of breakdown.
ontherocks 11.04.08 at 11:08 pm
antifish 11.04.08 at 11:07 pm
I don’t want to live in this country anymore. I’m moving to Europe.
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Can I go with ya?
goofsmom 11.04.08 at 11:08 pm
I’m just devastated…
DancesWithPumas 11.04.08 at 11:08 pm
They’ll use their projections to pressure McCain into conceding… just as they did with Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton
Casper Cat 11.04.08 at 11:08 pm
NOW, I have had it with the american people…Let them eat shit and die….(those who voted for Bo)…This was not an election of the democratic process this was FRAUD, IMITIDATION,DECIET and LYING TO THE AMERICANS…NO WAY WILL I SUPPORT HIM…MURPYY, I SMELL A RECALL IN THE AIR??? WHAT DO YOU THINK????????????????????????/
hillfan4mccain 11.04.08 at 11:09 pm
Is Fox sucking up even more to bo?
LeeinUSA 11.04.08 at 11:09 pm
CNN projects that Sen. Barack Obama has won election as the next president of the United States.
feeling_invisible 11.04.08 at 11:09 pm
What a sad day for America.
mountainsong 11.04.08 at 11:09 pm
This is almost exactly what happened when Hitler came to power.
mijabsnji 11.04.08 at 11:09 pm
I will change from indy to republican, changed to indy from dem in june.
JoanneGreco 11.04.08 at 11:09 pm
Hey PUMA’s….
My husband & I are quite upset tonight over what looks to be an Obama win.
I just wanted to stop in and say thank you to all who fought for this country. We can hold our heads up knowing that we did the right thing. (((Hugs)))
Once a PUMA…..always a PUMA.
Oneof18million cracks... 11.04.08 at 11:09 pm
Yes, this is a sad day in the USA
IndyBoomer 11.04.08 at 11:09 pm
Well, take your money out of the stock market, PUMAs, it’s headin’ south tomorrow! Also keep your gun well-oiled and ready (mine is and I know how to use it). It’s going to be a scary 4 years. Yes, 4. If Obama can buy and steal an election there is no way in hell he’s leavin’ office until he’s good and ready.
mimi1020 11.04.08 at 11:09 pm
Well Guys – it’s over..:(
I can’t wait to get to my “i told you so’s” to these morons who really think obambi will save them. IDIOTS!
I am sooooo disappointed in my Party & in my Country.
It has truly been an honor fighting the good fight with all of you incredible PUMAS.
I will check in tomorrow. We need to move forward and get to work on finding away to get these complete con men out of the freakin WH!
GOD HELP US….AND PROTECT US….AND GUIDE US…. AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, PLEASE LET THESE NEXT 4 YEARS PASS QUICKLY!
PALIN 12
queen81 11.04.08 at 11:09 pm
Antifish…I’m going to need that drink on the 19th
hillstheone 11.04.08 at 11:10 pm
PUMA’s, hang in there, also did you know clintondems had changed their name? I guess I hadn’t noticed recently.
Presidents & Background checks
http://clintondems.com/2008/06/the-cia-background-checks-on-presidential-candidates/
Margenau 11.04.08 at 11:10 pm
Really, mountainsong? Can you give us some specifics?
rosebud 11.04.08 at 11:10 pm
I voted Republican straight down. I can’t see how they can call it, when the west coast polling closed only an hour ago. You know, I felt this way on this very night in 2000, 2004 and 2008…WHAT IS WRONG WITH AMERICA?
feeling_invisible 11.04.08 at 11:11 pm
McCain is too old? WTF–his mom is almost one hundred and lively as can be.
Asian4Hillary 11.04.08 at 11:11 pm
Those who voted third party instead of voting for McCain, there goes your FIRST AMMENDMENT.
Oh well, the people always get the government they deserve.
Ario, its okay to cry, but after your tears gather yourself together, this country is in for a long rough ride.
To those of you who donated money to Hillary’s campaign, you can call her office and ask for full refund of your campaign contribution. Trust me, you can use that money right now. I received my refund today and use it to buy canned goods and donated it to Salvation Army, I will drive to food bank tomorrow and donate there too.
DancesWithPumas 11.04.08 at 11:11 pm
They’ll use their projections to pressure McCain into conceding… just as they did with Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton.
C’mon John…. there are thousands of sub-IQs out there in chicago waiting for him…. you wouldn’t want to disappoint or delay the arrival of the first mulatto president of the US…would you? you don’t want them to burn our cities down… do you?
kre8tr 11.04.08 at 11:11 pm
Nooooo mimi1020, don’t be an appeaser!
hillstheone 11.04.08 at 11:11 pm
queen / anti / “CLINK-CLINK-CLINK!!!”
hoping other GA puma’s might join us, too.
onebigmac 11.04.08 at 11:11 pm
karenwi..
dont worry.. we will win,,its just going to take us longer to get rid of this crook obama..i have total confidence he will fall because he is rotten and corrupt..
EWard 11.04.08 at 11:11 pm
#588 gosuef4hill
Well said! It’s a sad day for America.
Ario 11.04.08 at 11:12 pm
im speechless
InuHanyou1701 11.04.08 at 11:12 pm
I can’t believe what has happened today. I never thought I would be so ashamed to be an American. PUMAs it has been wonderful getting to know all of you and fighting alongside you. But it’s time for this PUMA to close up shop and call it a day. Take care everyone.
mijabsnji 11.04.08 at 11:12 pm
It’s hard to read and type between the tears!
ceacea 11.04.08 at 11:12 pm
I feel deflated and sick to my stomach. The polls had only been closed in california 1 minute until they call a win for obo how can that be? We must somehow work to get the electorial college banned from deciding for us.
OMG where do people go from here?
Grizzly 11.04.08 at 11:12 pm
I realize things are not looking good, but remember that what counts is not the exit poll projections but the actual tally certified by each Secretary of State.
The media has had egg on their faces for the last two elections – in 2000, they called Florida for Gore based on exit polling. In 2004, they called Ohio for Kerry based on exit polling. Both of those projections were wrong in the end.
Also, the more rural areas of the states generally come in later than the urban areas.
feebie 11.04.08 at 11:12 pm
it is a sad turning point in the nation’s history. a billion dollars.
antifish 11.04.08 at 11:13 pm
ontherocks 11.04.08 at 11:08 pm
antifish 11.04.08 at 11:07 pm
I don’t want to live in this country anymore. I’m moving to Europe.
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Can I go with ya?
*************
Absolutely! All Pumas should leave this land of idiots!
mimi1020 11.04.08 at 11:13 pm
BTW, I THINK OUR NEXT GOAL SHOULD BE TO FORCE THE SUPREME COURT TO MANDATE OBAMBI TO SHOW HIS COLB. PERIOD. THAT SHOULD BE THE NEXT THING. ONE LAST FIGHT BEFORE WE HAVE TO TOTALLY CONCEDE TO THIS FUCKIN LYIN, THIEVING SNAKE.
GOOD NIGHT PUMAS…..SLEEP TIGHT
NewOrleansPuma 11.04.08 at 11:13 pm
The man has stolen the electtion just as he stole the primaries. I have witnessed many historical events in my lifetime in this country. I never thought I would see the demise of the United States of America. I have seen it here tonight. Prepare to suffer. Continue to know what you believe, for what you believe in the spirit will carry and sustain your spirit no matter what happens. We have seen the demise of the United States of America tonight and it was ochestrated by far greater forces and more extensive than Oevil’s supporters..World players have orchestrated this and they will continue to do so to the suffering of everyone in this country except those of the upper 1%. May God have mercy on us all…for it is only by his mercy, received will your spirits be sustained. I love you all and ever shall.
Libby 11.04.08 at 11:13 pm
I’d say that Bill Ayers considers this mission accomplished.
He finally has spoken to the media:
Ayers says relationship with Obama is distant
1 hour ago
WASHINGTON (AP) — Former Weather Underground leader William Ayers — the man Sarah Palin was referring to when she said Barack Obama was “palling around with terrorists” — says he hardly knows the Democrat presidential nominee.
The onetime anti-war radical who lives in the same Chicago neighborhood as Obama said in a newspaper interview he has had no contact with the Obama campaign and considers the GOP vice presidential nominee’s accusation absurd.
“Pal around together? What does that mean? Share a milkshake with two straws?” Ayers said in an interview with The Washington Post. “I think my relationship with Obama was probably like thousands of others in Chicago. And, like millions and millions of others, I wish I knew him better.”
Ayers, now a University of Illinois education professor, had a meet-the-candidate event in his home for Obama early in the Democrat’s political career. The two also served on the board of the Woods Fund, a Chicago-based charity that develops community groups to help the poor. Obama left the board in December 2002.
Ayers said in the interview — the first he’s given since he became an issue in the 2008 presidential campaign — that Republicans were trying to make a case of guilt by association.
“I didn’t do anything,” Ayers said in the interview, which was posted Tuesday on the Post’s Web site. “It’s all guilt by association. They made me into a cartoon character, they threw me up on stage just to pummel me.”
He also blamed the media for not making it clear that the accusation was groundless.
“The dishonest narrative is that guilt by association has some validity,” Ayers said, adding that the media’s performance was “kind of shameful.”
The Weather Underground claimed responsibility for roughly a dozen bombings in the late-1960s. Targets included the Pentagon and the Capitol. No one was injured except for three radicals killed when a bomb exploded prematurely.
Ayers said he has recently received death threats, but doesn’t “feel very victimized.” He said he has continued to teach and write, but postponed the release of a book because of the controversy.
Ayers and Obama voted at the same polling place only a few minutes apart on Tuesday, and Ayers said he planned to join the crowd at Obama’s election night rally in Grant Park — but on his own, not as a guest of the campaign.
“I felt from the beginning that the Obama campaign had to run the campaign and I had to run my life,” he said.
Seattlegirl 11.04.08 at 11:13 pm
Wow we sure live in a country that has a lot of stupid people. But there are some not too bad aspects of tonights outcome. 1. We are all used to living with the fact that our President is not too with it, makes dumb decisions, works against us, and is likely ruining our country for good, so it isn’t like this is a new situation we can’t cope with. 2. Now that we have proven that a person with a black dick and no experience can be elected President maybe 50 years from now a woman with 5 times the experience of all the male candidates can be elected! 3. Medical research might actually get some funding for once.
I was really hoping we wouldn’t have to live through the extreme lefts folly just like we lived the extreme rights folly. But in a way this is just another little present from Bush. Well hey I am ready and willing to start working on women’s issues. It is about time and clearly no one is going to do it for us. And after this win there is no way you guys are going to get your party back so I guess women’s issues it is! All in all I do believe there is a higher plan for us I just don’t see what it is right now. Love you all PUMAs!
feeling_invisible 11.04.08 at 11:13 pm
Asian-great idea and what a message it sends her!!
We should definitely write her at her office as well!!
We need to make a bold statement somehow. This is outrageous.
Lady Like 11.04.08 at 11:13 pm
GOD HELP AMERICA…MAY THE NEXT 4 YEARS PASS QUICKLY.
CELEBRATE NOW….BECAUSE SOON THE TRUE OBAMA MASK WILL BE REVEALED.
THIS HAPPENED ALL THANKS TO G.W.BUSH!
DancesWithPumas 11.04.08 at 11:14 pm
ceacea
It was posted at our poll that they would be open until 11
KarenWI 11.04.08 at 11:14 pm
If it were JUST Obama it wouldn’t be so bad… but he’s got a super majority of the congress with him. Don’t you guys get it? That means they can change the constitution and everything and we DON’T HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY ABOUT IT. This will be Cuba here. Don’t talk about “4 years”… this is the end of America. I am dead serious. This is the start of WWIII (and this nuclear) with us on the wrong side of the war, and we WILL NOT SURVIVE IT. Don’t you get it??? If it were just Pelosi etal, or JUST Obama it’d be one thing… with them in total and absolute power there is NO WAY they will ever relinquish it and American is destroyed. Four years? America won’t survive that long.
carol 11.04.08 at 11:15 pm
Asian4 Hillary
Is that true? Can we really get our campaign donations returned?
goofsmom 11.04.08 at 11:15 pm
Guys the west coast polls closed at 8:00 our time, that is 11:00 EST. Not 30 seconds later they called it for Obiteme!.
I’m just sick..
snowtiger007 11.04.08 at 11:15 pm
Well untilm all, the votes are counted I aint buying it.
Fuck the exit polls and the “projections”.
If that pile of shit only won with 284 electoral votes, than they had better be damn sure their predictions are right.
Cause a 15 vote swing would give it to McCain.
notfollowinthepiedpiper 11.04.08 at 11:15 pm
“Oh, and there we were all in one place,
A generation lost in space
With no time left to start again.
So come on: jack be nimble, jack be quick!
Jack flash sat on a candlestick
Cause fire is the devil’s only friend.
Oh, and as I watched him on the stage
My hands were clenched in fists of rage.
No angel born in hell
Could break that satan’s spell.
And as the flames climbed high into the night
To light the sacrificial rite,
I saw satan laughing with delight
The day the music died
He was singing,
“bye-bye, miss american pie.”
Drove my chevy to the levee,
But the levee was dry.
Them good old boys were drinkin whiskey and rye
And singin, “this’ll be the day that I die.
“this’ll be the day that I die.”
–Don McLean – American Pie
BarbNOBO 11.04.08 at 11:15 pm
The people in the Middle East are dancing in the streets!! They can’t wait to test The One!!
Ario 11.04.08 at 11:16 pm
lady
this has nada to do with bush …this has everything to do with racial politics and a corrupt dnc
kre8tr 11.04.08 at 11:16 pm
God bless us, everyone.
snowtiger007 11.04.08 at 11:16 pm
KarenWI
NO thye cannot change the constitution. Thye need to get two thirds of the states to ratify any proposed changes.
feeling_invisible 11.04.08 at 11:16 pm
You know-I’m not religious but there are certain beliefs that the world will end in 2011. During Obama’s reign…
Veddy interesting for this Aetheist to learn!!
ontherocks 11.04.08 at 11:16 pm
I have never been so upset over an election. This is a true nightmare. You guys I can’t stop crying. This is truly a sad day for the USA. I just want to take my family and move away. To bad my husband (Navy guy) has a new CIC.
Margenau 11.04.08 at 11:16 pm
Dances #620, you are right on. So scary that this precedent of media power has been set.
Seattlegirl 11.04.08 at 11:17 pm
Actually the liberal Supreme Court appointments will be one good outcome of this event too. Not that I believe in a liberal court but I do believe we need a balanced court.
Lady Like 11.04.08 at 11:17 pm
Bill Ayers, Soros,R.Khalidi, Odinga, Oberman, Mathews, Farrakhan, Rezko, all creaming in their pants right now….the celebration will begin!
ACORN is responsible for this blow out. Can’t imagine all the GOP’s let this slide to this extent!
HiHat 11.04.08 at 11:17 pm
Where is Murphy?
Shouldn’t she be here?
Flasunshiner 11.04.08 at 11:17 pm
DancesWithPumas 543
Dances, the slowest planet is Pluto, and yes it is still a planet in my book. The planet Jupiter cycles about every year or so. Pluto cycles from about fifteen years to about thirty depending on the sign it passing through. The year 1987 was important because it was the beginning of the “Harmonic Convergence”. That is when everyone used crystals, and everyone was into channeling and stuff like that. Is that what your show was about you hosted?
As I said in a prior blog, Pluto is in Sagitarius and it is exposing the crooks in the World, like the democratic party. PUMA’s are awake and see the Truth. Sagittarius is the Truth seeker, and Pluto is forcing us to see beyond the facade of the physical plane. In other words, we are evolving. It is very esoteric and deep, but if anyone has heard of the “veil” between this world and the next, well it is truly thinning.
That is why I like PUMA so much. We are not followers. We are leaders, and we happen to be ahead of the crowd, and there is no such thing as coincidence. This had to happen to change the corrupt two party system. Murphy and all the other wonderful PUMA’s are actually way ahead of the game in the evolutionary scheme of things. And, believe me when I say this we are evolving no matter if we are surrounded by the drones, bots and robotoids. It is important that everyone keep a positive attitude because what you feel is what you project and your World will reflect it back to you.
Sorry I am so deep tonight, but astrology is very esoteric.
newman 11.04.08 at 11:17 pm
I am still too stunned for words…
TXRepGirl 11.04.08 at 11:18 pm
On Bush, they did the same thing to him that they did to Hilarey–the media I mean. They trashed anything and everything he tried to do, made him out to be the bad guy in everything. I’d be willing to bet that in very little time, you will look back on the GW Bush years and WISH for them. I know I will.
Asian4Hillary 11.04.08 at 11:18 pm
carol 11.04.08 at 11:15 pm
Asian4 Hillary
Is that true? Can we really get our campaign donations returned?
========
YES! YES! Call her office, tell the person you want FULL REFUND of your campaign contribution to Hillary’s campaign. I called them last week, I received my cheque today.
LotusBoy 11.04.08 at 11:18 pm
PUMA’s – Wait till all is counted!!!
Till the election is certified nothing is done deal!
And If it still is a POTUS for BHO –
This is what I have to SAY -
Shame on you California, MASSCHUTHES, UNCONNECTICUT, DUMBYORK, WASH-SHITTON,OREGONNERS, ILLINUISANCE and all the blue states – Keep electing Democrats and masturbate on your own fluids! take America to the DOGS and you to the gutter!
So-called Progressive self-defeacating scums that gave the election to terrorists that will have a field day.
More than this day being a sad day for America this is a very happy day for the world especially to the muslim extremism and all the communist cohorts of Putin, Chavez and even Castros.
feeling_invisible 11.04.08 at 11:18 pm
I do not believe what that one poster says about time for PumaPac to pack up and disperse. Screw that. We need to mobilize some way, somehow.
At least let the pundits know we still are NOT standing for this.
ChristineRI 11.04.08 at 11:18 pm
Obama has called every demographic in this country a butt-fu**ing piece of shit; women, Jews, church-goers, gun-owners, plumbers, small town mayors, past and present presidents, past and present senators, and every other sector that makes up this country. And they want him to be their president. This country is fucked up! He will never be my president.
BarbNOBO 11.04.08 at 11:18 pm
OMG McCain is giving his concession speech!!!
LeeinUSA 11.04.08 at 11:19 pm
This is how a country is taken down. From the inside. They have worked on this for 4 years.
They have infiltrated the low-lifes, the druggies, the homeless, those that don’t want to work, but be handed to, they illegals and the terrorists among us!
Who knows who was voting. Probably anyone they paid to vote. I believe ACORN has had this in the works for FOUR YEARS & there was no one who would be able to beat him.
THIS COUNTRY HAS ELECTED A MARXIST, MUSLIM SATAN!
OUR FREEDOMS AS WE KNOW THEM ARE NO MORE!
GOD CAN’T EVEN HELP US NOW. MAYBE THE END OF THE WORLD IS NEAR! THAT IS THE ONLY EXPLANATION THAT SEEMS PLAUSABLE RIGHT NOW!
TerryDo 11.04.08 at 11:19 pm
McCain and Palin speaking on t.v. right now
TrishfromCanada 11.04.08 at 11:19 pm
wth in Cali McCain leads by 6% points and they gave it to Bo?
DancesWithPumas 11.04.08 at 11:19 pm
NYTIMES online headline:
“OBAMA
Racial Barrier Falls in Heavy Turnout”
The end of an election doesnt automatically give everyone amnesia… obsham-man would feel the reprecussions, neither will the pimply faced white boys and girls who swooned… but the black community will.
That’s just another shame of obama.
::::shrug::::
tennaseepuma 11.04.08 at 11:19 pm
Concession speech 11:19…………
TXRepGirl 11.04.08 at 11:20 pm
On the Constitution (not to be a downer), but they don’t have to ratify anything. All they have to do is appoint enough judges to rule away the people’s rights. That’s what they did in Keilo, and the Constitution was never touched (except for that sword right through its heart).
God bless America!
turndownobama 11.04.08 at 11:20 pm
{{{ karen }}}
That’s waht we thought in 2000; didn’t last.
Voters misinformed not evil. We can make a better news network.
Sorry can’t type many words, computer problem.
DancesWithPumas 11.04.08 at 11:20 pm
obsham-man WON’T feel the reprecussions,
HiHat 11.04.08 at 11:20 pm
John McCain is A CLASS ACT.
Period.
VAKatforPalin 11.04.08 at 11:20 pm
Ohio is closing… the results are now 52% in and BO only has a 1.35% lead…
Don’t forget, not all the votes have been counted. In FL many counties have not counted their absentee ballots and in VA the military ballots have not even come in yet…
hillstheone 11.04.08 at 11:20 pm
Hi, Flasunshiner!! I’ve missed you & been lookin’ for you!
Lady Like 11.04.08 at 11:20 pm
Folks if there is any state close that could sway any votes…..for McCain…the Dems would throw them out so BO could NOT have the win reversed!
feeling_invisible 11.04.08 at 11:20 pm
MAC was given the shaft.
sheila7 11.04.08 at 11:20 pm
Ario,
I completely agree. This was racial politics. I think that is absolutely disgusting. I am utterly speechless at the stupidity of this country. My son asked me, How can this happen? You shouldn’t be able to cheat your way to President. …. I have no answer for that, I mean obviously you can. I am absolutely sick to my stomach.
Kerri 11.04.08 at 11:21 pm
http://xat.com/pumapac
Come here, please and talk. Listen to me cry. Anything.
Mccain is giving his I lost speech now.
We’ve all lost.
Whoever gets rid of Obama will be my hero or heroine. Hey..maybe that’s why they chose Palin? She’s a crack-shot, right?
ontherocks 11.04.08 at 11:21 pm
Why in the hell would McCain do it now??
normapapuma 11.04.08 at 11:21 pm
Well, Facing the “Rising Sun” will not be the same tomorrow. I will not support ANY Dems until he is OUT, possibly never again. Party registration is definately going to change.
It was a mercifully short night…I’m going to get some sleep.
Good night, PUMAs.
lilibet 11.04.08 at 11:21 pm
MIJABSNJI:
Dances sometime ago mentioned Belize as a possible place to move. Although I am certain that she was joking, I looked it up and it seems to be a kind of paradise where the cost of lining is quite low!
hillstheone 11.04.08 at 11:22 pm
Flasunshiner,
Wow I could not agree w/you more, once more we seem to be on the same wavelength:
“It is very esoteric and deep, but if anyone has heard of the “veil” between this world and the next, well it is truly thinning.
… And, believe me when I say this we are evolving no matter if we are surrounded by the drones, bots and robotoids. It is important that everyone keep a positive attitude because what you feel is what you project and your World will reflect it back to you.”
lilibet 11.04.08 at 11:22 pm
that should be “COST OF LIVING”
Seattlegirl 11.04.08 at 11:22 pm
Oh yes this is the work of Bush. If he had been even a mediocre President who cared about the people and the country instead of Corporate America people would not have been desperate enough to vote in BO. But liberal excess will not fix conservative excess. Still PUMAs it is not the end of the world. The people who voted in BO are not stupid they are naive and the only thing that could disappoint them more than BO losing is the actual reality of BO ruling the country.
invalidresponse 11.04.08 at 11:22 pm
…sigh…(shaking head)
DancesWithPumas 11.04.08 at 11:23 pm
this country sucks
Flasunshiner 11.04.08 at 11:23 pm
hillstheone 669
Hi Hills !!! Glad to hear from you again !!!
Have you been getting any gut feelings lately? I know you have quite a psychic bent…I do not know your sign, but I am sure you have that ability.
ontherocks 11.04.08 at 11:23 pm
OMG: McCain is making me cry more and more.
That is right people yell it out USA!!!!! USA!!!!
sheila7 11.04.08 at 11:24 pm
Seattlegirl,
Actually they are stupid.
NewOrleansPuma 11.04.08 at 11:24 pm
I do not have on the TV but my nephew called and said the group celebration in Chicago looks just like the people in Munich under Hitler….I have seen pictures of that and I wish to see nothing like it here, true though his comments will be. These peopl, these willing slaves, will beg for bread before this despot finishes with what he will do.
And there will be no test of Obama, Obama the willing one will do what his 1% world globalization handlers tell him to do and that will be among other things to concede Israel under the guise of economic incentives for development of the Middle East. And all the Jews who voted for him en masse will be the first to know of their foolishness and for all the talk of remember the past forever regret their amnesia regarding all of it.
SalemRepub 11.04.08 at 11:24 pm
Hello Pumas,
First I wanted to say Thank You for the great fight. I’ve been lurking on this site for some time and I owe a lot to each of you.(The country owes a lot to each of you) I have been a upset for several years because I’m a republican that has some problems with my party. First my friends say I’m so far right Rush looks like a Teddy Bear. Nope I don’t think so, I believe that everyone has a right to marry whomever they choose, along as it is another human being. I do hate abortion but as a man I don’t think I have the right to tell a woman what to do with her body. I voted for Hillary in Va. primary because of the right wing take over of our country. So I guess maybe I’m one of those cracks in the ceiling.
Each of you did all you could do to make our country first. Next for every woman on this site, I’m sorry. I plan it on stupidty. I never thought sexism was such a HUGE problem in this country, I was so wrong.
When John McCain picked Sarah Palin I told my 10yr daughter that this may be hard for her to understand now but if John McCain is elected this will open so many doors for you when grow up. Two weeks later I was having to explain what a M.I.L.F was. I never thought our country was so backwards 80 years ago.
In closing, THANK YOU! Everyone of you should be proud of what you all accomplished during this year. Remember you always have a friend in Salem Virgina
vwade 11.04.08 at 11:24 pm
Okay folks, take a deep breath and realize one thing…you all have a clean conscious. This is the same way I’ve felt the last two elections. I just couldn’t understand how George Bush got elected. Well, I predict that Obo will turn out to be worst as bad if not worst than Bushie. I think the thing that bothers me most is the Dems will now break their asses seeing that he doesn’t fall on his face and they will continue to lie and cover for him, like they’ve been doing. Watch though, after the worshipping gets old with the media, then they’ll start to dig into some shit on him like they ended up turning against Bush finally. Trouble is, they be too late, like with Bush.
It’s a sad day indeed, but let’s not go back to the way we were. Let’s stay united and continue to question. We are a force, and they know we’re here. They think we don’t matter, but this should inspire us to recruit more of the disenfranchised. And believe me, there are more than just our original 18 million. Look at the popular vote if you want to see what this election has done to this country. Practically split in half.
Love to all you guys, going to listen to McCain’s concession speech.
Kerri 11.04.08 at 11:24 pm
Mccain aint no class act…he’s an idiot! There is NO EXCUSE for how he ran his campaign. There wasn’t sane, mechanical destruction of Obama. All he had to do was not be so erratic and tell the truth. Instead he was apologetic and only spoke of ONE terrorist association. Get the hell out of here! I’m disgusted.
TrishfromCanada 11.04.08 at 11:24 pm
I really thought McCain would win, i’m holding out til all the votes are in, the projected winner is not adding up right
Ario 11.04.08 at 11:25 pm
my biggest prob now is that i always loved this country and being an american…and now its all in doubt
newman 11.04.08 at 11:25 pm
Asian: I had no idea we could get campaign contributions back. I need to get hold of the Edwards campaign, I gave him money a year+ ago….grrrr……
onebigmac 11.04.08 at 11:25 pm
dances.. they got that right..thats the exact word..REPERCUSSIONS..
just watch the shit fly now..
the show is over now its time to get back to reality..
obama transfers wealth to bums,welfare queens and freeloaders.. he’s going to piss of royally all those people he is taking from and there wont be a damn thing he can do that will quell their rage once they realize what he is doing to them..
TXRepGirl 11.04.08 at 11:25 pm
Dances, et al, No the country doesn’t suck. We must continue fighting for the country. This moment sucks, yes, but I’ve been through moments that sucked much more, and it’s possible to make it through. Do I know how right now? No. But I believe that to be the truth.
I am and always will be PUMA PROUD. You people have made me VERY proud of my country, and that will never change.
God bless America — we may need it now more than ever!
hillstheone 11.04.08 at 11:25 pm
#659 Lee,
“Who knows who was voting. Probably anyone they paid to vote. I believe ACORN has had this in the works for FOUR YEARS & there was no one who would be able to beat him,” when the History books are written I hope they include a whole chapter on the exposure of Party corruption, especially Voter Fraud in most of the Swing States by the Obama camp.
NewOrleansPuma 11.04.08 at 11:26 pm
DanceswithPumas: If you think it does now, wait a year or two, my friend.
LaureyPuma 11.04.08 at 11:26 pm
Why did I even bother to vote if California wasn’t even counted.
hillfan4mccain 11.04.08 at 11:26 pm
Asian4Hillary 11.04.08 at 11:11 pm
Those who voted third party instead of voting for McCain, there goes your FIRST AMMENDMENT.
Oh well, the people always get the government they deserve.
To those of you who donated money to Hillary’s campaign, you can call her office and ask for full refund of your campaign contribution.
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You are right again! I dont understand how some could not vote to keep out BO and vote McCain. There was only one way.
I am calling Hillary’s office tomorrow for my donated money back. I am done with her. She was for us before she was against us! Lady Lynne is right when she says Hillary has some explaining to do to her supporters.
Good night Pumas
hebrew.que. 11.04.08 at 11:26 pm
Asian4Hillary #655:
Do you have the number to her office? Also, I want a FULL REFUND of my campaign contributions. COULD YOU PLEASE GIVE ME THAT NUMBER ASAP?
notfollowinthepiedpiper 11.04.08 at 11:27 pm
# 659 LeeinUSA 11.04.08 at 11:19 pm
This is how a country is taken down. From the inside. They have worked on this for 4 years.
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This has been in the works for FAR more than 4 years. It was embryonic in the 30′s and 40′s and then got a big push in the late 60′s and 70′s.
Lady Like 11.04.08 at 11:27 pm
THIS COUNTRY HAS ELECTED A MARXIST, MUSLIM SATAN!
OUR FREEDOMS AS WE KNOW THEM ARE NO MORE!
GOD CAN’T EVEN HELP US NOW. MAYBE THE END OF THE WORLD IS NEAR! THAT IS THE ONLY EXPLANATION THAT SEEMS PLAUSABLE RIGHT NOW!
So True, So True!!!!!!!!
THIS WAS THE BIGGEST COUP OF OUR COUNTRY!!!!!
AMERICA BEWARE WHAT IS TO COME. I PREDICTED THE SAME WHEN BUSH WAS ELECTED AND IT CAME TRUE…..
Asian4Hillary 11.04.08 at 11:27 pm
The people must NOT blame Bush, they MUST blame themselves voting for NObama and Democrats back into office. People must learn to take responsibility for their OWN action instead of passing the buck!
catsarepumas 11.04.08 at 11:27 pm
So, I am sorry this didn’t work out for us, I am saddened, but not angry because I didn’t think we had decided it was necessarily going to go our way. I thought we were fighting because we believed the DNC corrupted our rights, our choices, our vote and that we would move forward to change the system. I will say, however, that the division this election has created in my family and with my friends is not going to be easily, if ever, healed and that probably that divisiveness is a harbinger of what is to come.
I’m going to go calm down for a bit and try to get this out of my head so I can sleep (cause I’ve been awake since 4:00am). I will come back tomorrow and see if you are still here and what your plans are. I wish you all find some peace tonight despite this loss and that you take pride in your hard work and your integrity over these long months.
See you tomorrow.
Seattlegirl 11.04.08 at 11:27 pm
654 TXRepGirl : Well I absolutely agree with that, I bet a year from now people will look back on Bush and think damn! that wasn’t that bad.
hillfan4mccain 11.04.08 at 11:27 pm
LaureyPuma 11.04.08 at 11:26 pm
Why did I even bother to vote if California wasn’t even counted.
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Thats twice now! I am in NC, my vote wasnt counted either. Not at roll call or GE
ontherocks 11.04.08 at 11:28 pm
Okay now can we go protest in DC when Jan comes around???
sheila7 11.04.08 at 11:28 pm
ario,
That is exactly how I feel. I’m so disgusted in the media and the morons in this country who want to vote for a “superstar” instead of who will run this country best. I’m afraid this is the beginning of the downfall of this great country.
mountainsong 11.04.08 at 11:28 pm
KarenWI I agree.
Jenny 11.04.08 at 11:28 pm
We’ve only begun to fight. The election may be over, but we can’t lose hope for our country as long as there are still patriots.
alohapuma 11.04.08 at 11:28 pm
Lady Like
Same here
snowtiger007 11.04.08 at 11:29 pm
Kat where are you?
Asian4Hillary 11.04.08 at 11:29 pm
Just remember this:
THE PEOPLE ALWAYS GET THE GOVERNMENT THEY DESERVE.
feeling_invisible 11.04.08 at 11:29 pm
Hear the BOOs in the audience as Mac gave his speech?
That is how I feel–
Mac is too gracious.
B.O. will never be my President.
JR Dogman 11.04.08 at 11:29 pm
#678, I agree. Yes, it sucks, it’s disappointing, and I do wonder how many fraudulent votes were vast in key states, and Obama’s illegal fundraising was revolting — and yes, without the media’s help, he’d never have won. But if if if… It’s over. Life goes on. There will be other elections. If Obama does a bad job, he’ll hear about it in 2010, and then he’ll really hear about it in 2012.
It really isn’t the end of the world. And I say this as a Republican. The country has always shifted back and forth. And as for the worries some have about Obama turning into Hugo Chavez, well, I think that’s unlikely. But if it happens, well, America will deal with it — and anyhow, it certainly isn’t worth worrying yourself over.
Also, while you may cheer Philip Berg’s efforts, odds are he’s pissing in the wind. Obama just won the election, and unless Berg somehow wins his case, he will be our next president.
NewOrleansPuma 11.04.08 at 11:29 pm
Kerri: You are wrong. Hillary Clinton and John McCain ran classic before Obama world order tactics American political campaigns…Neither one of them or us, obviously, ever confronted what has been foisted upon this country.
One thing is for sure..no election in this country until the next revolution …and that is for you young ones because I will not be here I am sure…will ever be able to be trusted at the national level and certainly using logic, plans, budgets etc..the classic campaign is dead.
Libby 11.04.08 at 11:30 pm
I hope McCain wakes up to find out that he is POTUS.
exDemMcvoter 11.04.08 at 11:30 pm
McCain giving his concession speech now. Feels like when Gore gave his victory speech back in 2000 at 9PM Pacific. This is how the media causes massive problems. Let the Obots go to bed tonight after hearing O’s Victory Speech, then wake up tomorrow hearing the whole thing was called too soon.
IF O actually does win, here’s the upside: the economy is going into the crapper and there’s nothing anybody can do about it. So O comes out looking like a big loser to everyone who placed their faith in him.
The bad news for those here who still have faith that the Dem party can be cleaned up and Hillary can win in 2012 is that, this time, the Dems will be blamed for trashing the economy.
That’s MHO.
Too freaky to see McCain giving concession speech- Western votes not even begun to be counted yet! We have a very wierd system.
ontherocks 11.04.08 at 11:30 pm
My heart is breaking. What is the next step people??
feeling_invisible 11.04.08 at 11:30 pm
ontherocks-I am game! Count me in
Asian4Hillary 11.04.08 at 11:30 pm
For heaven’s sake! How can people fight for their country when in this site alone many PUMAS still feel beholden to Hillary! OHHHHHHHHHHHHHH BROTHER! SLAP ME TARZAN!!!!! AHAHAHAH!
onebigmac 11.04.08 at 11:30 pm
post obama — business owner to a black guy..
“hey,i voted for obama..we have a black president now.. no more race card now..dont give me that race card shit any more and get the fuck out of here because im hiring jose from mexico”
hillstheone 11.04.08 at 11:30 pm
#681 Flasunshiner,
My guides are trying to keep me from knowing a lot right now, there’s probably some evil stuff going on. But last weekend my gut told me that Obama would win by a narrow margin, a margin made even narrower when all the voter fraud exposed. And I haven’t picked up anything different than last summer when a strong hunch told me Obama’s background would not pass CIA security clearance, and I don’t know why I still feel Hillary hasn’t left the picture yet.
Sorry I don’t have anything more definite but your astrological post definitely felt in line with my hunches about this time in history (corruption exposed). It’s really good connecting w/you again, be well.
kat in your hat 11.04.08 at 11:31 pm
lol. Ignorance is bliss.
What a *shame.*
I wish that he was just a black democrat, and that’s why I cried when I voted. It’s a shame that he isn’t who they think he is. It’s a shame that he’s a bad guy.
Bye Israel.
Bye “fundamental” America.
Hey, I’m broke. GIMME.
Good news?
Racism is dead.
oh, and:
Gird your loins.
Marty1 11.04.08 at 11:31 pm
As a famous man said once, “give me a break…this is the biggest fairy tale ever to be.”
Let’s all be diligent and careful and look to our collective
dedication and love for our country. I personally will be more involved with all aspects of our Country’s future.
John Mc Cain is a class act and I am glad I voted for him.
Maureen (Marty1}
goofsmom 11.04.08 at 11:31 pm
703 on the rocks
Goofsdad is already working on that. We have to make sure we are heard! This wasn’t a slam dunk for “O”, there are plenty of people out there that feel just like we do.
feeling_invisible 11.04.08 at 11:31 pm
exDem-I agree. Count BEFORE conceding!
TexasTigress 11.04.08 at 11:31 pm
Hey – I’m not finished yet !!!!!!!!!!!!
The electoral college hasn’t voted yet , and I will ” never give in, never give in, never, never, never, never—in nothing, great or small, large or petty—never give in except to convictions of honour and good sense. Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the enemy.”
ontherocks 11.04.08 at 11:32 pm
Asian4Hillary 11.04.08 at 11:29 pm
Just remember this:
THE PEOPLE ALWAYS GET THE GOVERNMENT THEY DESERVE.
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I know but my kids don’t deserve to clean up his mess.
Fuck Obama!
GoToday 11.04.08 at 11:32 pm
Dear Pumas… I apologize for PA. We tried, and tried, and tried. But all they could see was McCain is a Republican. Bush is Republican. Therefore McCain is Bush.
It does not make sense but as Flasunshiner is announcing, Pumas are visionaries. Visionaries see long before the masses open their eyes. What people are celebrating now is the what they couldn’t celebrate in 2000 or 2004. They are not celebrating truth. We as PUMAS still have truth to celebrate … and this fixed/bought election, has brought together an intelligent, creative, determined, thought-provoking, mountain-moving collection of minds and souls. We are but months old … we are just beginning.
Murphy — you are an amazement!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PUMAS you are spectacular. Peace to all.
I can’t understand any Puma voting for BO. I think the majority of us didn’t. However, let’s continue to work as we can, support PUMA financially and allow time to unfold the glory of it all.
Damm … can not comprehend this at all.
alohapuma 11.04.08 at 11:32 pm
JR Dogman
Thanks for what appears to be your one and only contribution to this blog.
shampoovta 11.04.08 at 11:32 pm
Well fought Pumas I am proud to be counted among you! We accomplished tons! Fist woman nominee, fist woman VP nominee REPUBLICAN. We are American and we have elected our president. We are amazing.
I will see ya tomorrow.
LoriBe 11.04.08 at 11:32 pm
Asian4Hillary 11.04.08 at 11:18 pm
Which office do we call to get a refund?
LaureyPuma 11.04.08 at 11:32 pm
Sheila and DWP, I agree.
Asian, I am calling to get my dontations back too.
mountainsong 11.04.08 at 11:32 pm
Fortunately, I haven’t had any MSM on for 2 days now, so all the ‘news’ I’m getting is from here. Rather that be upset, my mind is racing with what to do next. I kinda figured this might happen. I’m not quite sure what to do but I don’t have to figure it all out tonight. But I’m pretty sure Karen is right and that we are on the brink of WW III. I’m also pretty sure the aryans are not going to just sit back and take it. And to be a king, ya gotta have subjects. And I’m definitely NOT a subject of wannabe king Psychobama.
DancesWithPumas 11.04.08 at 11:33 pm
NewOrleansPuma 11.04.08 at 11:26 pm
DanceswithPumas: If you think it does now, wait a year or two, my friend.
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Thank you for the pep talk, my friend.
Please pass the razor blade.
Ronan 11.04.08 at 11:33 pm
No. This feels truly terrible.
JR Dogman 11.04.08 at 11:33 pm
In the meantime, putting aside all of Obama’s dirty tricks, and all of the ACORN vileness, and so on and so forth, we have demonstrated to the world that we are not a racist country — more importantly, black Americans can now tell their children, “Maybe you’ll grow up to be President someday,” without having to add the caveat, “if and when America is ready for it.”
greenfun 11.04.08 at 11:33 pm
Well, I guess taking in money from God knows where to the tune of 600 million plus, and having the media work double time for you–throw in a little corruption and fraud with the help of ACORN, and I guess you can rip off an election. Here in America–cheaters really do prosper. I think this election cycle has been an endless ride of one disappointment after another. I can see why people get jaded and give up. Luckily I believe in karma and I know there will be more to the story. At the moment I have no idea how I am going to look at this dickheads face for the next 4 years.
DancesWithPumas 11.04.08 at 11:33 pm
Get your passports renewed before January 20.
snowtiger007 11.04.08 at 11:33 pm
night shampoo
ontherocks 11.04.08 at 11:34 pm
JR Dogman 11.04.08 at 11:33 pm
In the meantime, putting aside all of Obama’s dirty tricks, and all of the ACORN vileness, and so on and so forth, we have demonstrated to the world that we are not a racist country — more importantly, black Americans can now tell their children, “Maybe you’ll grow up to be President someday,” without having to add the caveat, “if and when America is ready for it.”
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Yep this nice. Would have been better if he was truly a good guy.
Asian4Hillary 11.04.08 at 11:34 pm
Hold on..let me check the phone number I called
DancesWithPumas 11.04.08 at 11:34 pm
greenfun said: dickhead.
LotusBoy 11.04.08 at 11:34 pm
OK, PUMA’s au revoir for me tonight and perhaps forever
In this last 8 years I have never called GWB anything other than President and voters chose the man I think is anything but President to rule this country.
In one day, the only remaining superpower has been taken to the third world thank to MSM, ACORN and countless other people.
I will not give up until the election is certified.
on HRC, I think she is history!!!!!!!!!!!
so much for protecting the Clinton Legacy!!!!!!!!!
My thoughts go to 2 groups of folks I would take a moment to salute – To both these groups my prayer
the armed forces of the USA all over the world that proudly waves the US flag.
the unfortunate African Americans that will come to know of the scam behind the real deal – soon to be President Obama.
ontherocks 11.04.08 at 11:35 pm
DancesWithPumas 11.04.08 at 11:33 pm
Get your passports renewed before January 20.
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LOL, where are we going???
snowtiger007 11.04.08 at 11:35 pm
anybody have the electoral totals?
Lara08 11.04.08 at 11:35 pm
Asian4Hillary, thanks for all the work you did for McCain. I voted for him today. I am proud of how we came together to support Hillary Clinton and how we spoke out against the corrupt media and BO campaign.
To all those wealthy people who voted for BO: gimme gimme gimme! You are so eager to pay more taxes, well here they come. I’m not even close to being above $100,000 tax bracket, so enjoy paying more.
To people in Israel: I’m sorry Americans are so friggin stupid. I can only imagine that you are much angrier, upset, and afraid than we are here in the U.S. I wish we could have done more. This election was bought and paid for back in 2007.
I am not crying and I am not devastated. I’m not going to let this supposed win by BO (I have to see final vote counts before I believe it) stop me from speaking my mind. BO only “won” because people couldn’t stand Bush and because the Democratic Party screwed HC royally in the primaries. I will never forget that.
Best,
Lara08
kat in your hat 11.04.08 at 11:35 pm
I’m trying to be civil.
I *know* people think he is just a black democrat and this is an amazing historical event, which it is, on the surface.
Gotta bite my tongue for one second: Congratulations to those who think this. You must be thrilled.
I’m sorry though. I see bad things ahead. Very bad.
TrishfromCanada 11.04.08 at 11:35 pm
All I can say is I pray God watches over America these next 4 years, because America is going to need it, and I pray Bo and Mo keep their sorry asses out of Canada.
Now we will watch the zombies wake as they realize Bo is full of crap and has no commitment to any of them. It’s going to be an interesting ride as the disillusioned realize they were mere pawns in his chess game. He won’t make it to a second term, if he actually does win this election.
antifish 11.04.08 at 11:35 pm
I saw enough questionable crap going on today while working at the poll to know that people from other states were registered to vote in GA. They still had their driver’s licenses from the other states and they were ALL obviously there for Obama. I personaly processed five people from Arizona, one from Mississippi and one from Nevada. The other workers there had the same experience. Most of them had worked the polls before and said normally you’d be lucky to see one person voting with an out-of state license all day. These people were all legally registered at GA addresses, so we had to let them vote. I’m sure this went on all over the US.
Asian4Hillary 11.04.08 at 11:35 pm
Call HillPAC. That is Hillary’s Political Action Committee! or Friends of Hillary.
feeling_invisible 11.04.08 at 11:35 pm
I have kept Hillary’s bumper sticker taped to my car.
It comes down tonight.
onebigmac 11.04.08 at 11:36 pm
hate to say it.. i like mac… but he didnt have the right strategy to fight a thug like obama..thugs dont play by them “gentlemens” rules.. but like thay say..live and learn.. the next candidate to go up against obama will have a better idea how to deal with any future obamas running for office..its a learning process..
look at it this way..crooked black politicians can toss the race card out in the trash now.. thay cant play that game anymore.. now they have nothing..they call it the law of “unintended consequences”
Margenau 11.04.08 at 11:36 pm
JR: Please, spare us the feel-good racial statements. This election has set back race relations in this country.
zolo 11.04.08 at 11:36 pm
horns are honking… we just got back from dinner. Some girls just walked by us when we were coming in from the car, cheering… no one ever usually talks to us in our neighborhood (almost all black) but these girls felt free to express themselves. Everyone here, who is usually down and out, are smiling, heads raised, cheering and screaming. So completely different from the past 9 years we have lived here in Oakland, CA.
DancesWithPumas 11.04.08 at 11:36 pm
more importantly, black Americans can now tell their children, “Maybe you’ll grow up to be President someday,” without having to add the caveat, “if and when America is ready for it.”
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ONLY IF THEY’RE MALE CHILDREN.
Lady Like 11.04.08 at 11:36 pm
As I sit here today, an African American woman….I will turn off the media for 4 years. Sadly, I will NOT participate in anything to do with Inaguration day. I do not want to hear anything of our new government that was stolen on MANY different levels. I have no faith in our present GOVERNMENT and its FALSE PROMISES. Today is NOT a DAY of celebration for me! The DNC will pay for what transpired during this election!
Because I have a business that does not allow me to relocate from this country…unfortunately I am tied here.
I am very depressed right now. I pray to God for strength and courage to resume my life as I once knew it before the first primary election earlier this year.
I will remain in touch with such organizations as PUMA because I believe in Murphy’s spirit, and the spirit which started this movement…
JR Dogman 11.04.08 at 11:37 pm
#724, I’m not sure if that’s a compliment, but thanks. Look, I contributed money to a couple of PUMA sites, I donated to the McCain campaign, I emailed friends — I did what I could. As did all of us, no doubt. Still, we lost — so now we go forward, and telling ourselves the sky is falling is hardly a good way to go forward.
alohapuma 11.04.08 at 11:37 pm
JR Dogman
There is a Universal Law that says for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. Most of the nice people in this country who fell for that superficial nonsense will be the ones holding the bag when this disaster becomes apparent to the mainstream. In the meantime, ya’ll pat yourselves on the back and enjoy it. The backlash won’t be easy.
goingtoMcVote 11.04.08 at 11:37 pm
You know what the 5th is? 1459 more days until we get to vote obama OUT! I think everyone will be sick of him by then.
hebrew.que. 11.04.08 at 11:37 pm
Which office do we call to get our refund? Does any PUMA have that information?
NewOrleansPuma 11.04.08 at 11:37 pm
LadyLike: You are right except: God can not even help us now.
This is false. No good can come from Obama, from his human hand, because he used nothing but amoral and evil tactics to get it…No good will come from him no matter what it seems.
but the only being who can transform evil when it is set out by the hand of man is a God …call Him, Her what you will…
but do have one, I hope, for as people under despotic regimes in Europe have experienced in the past…when suffering is grave, the human heart must reach beyond the suffering for insight and grace. Like it or not…I know this personally and if many of you do not, so be it. Please do not get angry with me for I do not seek to foist anything upon you except some sharp reality and memory of history, personal and cultural as an alternative to your comments here, LadyLike, for whom I offer all respect. as I do to all others here except any crawling roach that may be caught in a crack somewhere..rather than saluting the Fuhrer like the rest of the stupid, ignorant people out there.
SouthernGAL68 11.04.08 at 11:37 pm
I have to admit, I have NEVER cried over an election in my 40 years – until tonight! I am so sad! Like everyone said “this is bigger than us”! I can promise you PUMS’s one thing … THEY KNOW WE ARE HERE!
TrishfromCanada 11.04.08 at 11:37 pm
JR Dogman 11.04.08 at 11:33 pm
Yup Black kids can now grow up knowing they too can lie, cheat, and steal an election!
Lovely role model Bo is.
DancesWithPumas 11.04.08 at 11:37 pm
ontherocks 11.04.08 at 11:35 pm
DancesWithPumas 11.04.08 at 11:33 pm
Get your passports renewed before January 20.
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LOL, where are we going???
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I’m 15 minutes away from Mexico…
I’ll figure the rest out once I get there.
mountainsong 11.04.08 at 11:37 pm
Asian4Hillary Ya know, I’ve agreed with you on just about everything since the beginning of all this. Is there something wrong with our perspective?
LaureyPuma 11.04.08 at 11:38 pm
Kat in your hat, I agree also.
Libby 11.04.08 at 11:38 pm
I’ll wait to see the end of the real votes.
If it is still Obama, then I will start fighting him everyday, in every way.
He is a liar.
lizben08 11.04.08 at 11:38 pm
Just another battle. Just need to re-group.
Flasunshiner 11.04.08 at 11:39 pm
hillstheone 717
My guides are quite optimistic. I keep telling myself this place is an illusion and that you create your own reality. I find automatic writing to my guides a good source of comfort.
I wish I could tell everyone to wake up on this Planet, but most are in the waking sleep. I try at all times not to use the word “hope” as that is not a positive statement.
The best thing to say is “I know”. I really miss giving astrological and tarot readings to people who needed help. It was so much fun and it makes people feel better. Have you thought of doing something like that ?
DancesWithPumas 11.04.08 at 11:39 pm
(((((((((((Lady Like )))))))))))))
goingtoMcVote 11.04.08 at 11:39 pm
So what happens if the king doesn’t have the vote it takes?
Lara08 11.04.08 at 11:39 pm
#748 I live in Hillary country (San Antonio, TX). There will be no big celebrations here.
mountainsong 11.04.08 at 11:39 pm
DancesWithPumas I’m 45 minutes away from Canada. But I’m pretty sure there is extra security on all border crossings right now. Gonna have to find another way to cross. Now I know what wetbacks feel like.
ajane 11.04.08 at 11:39 pm
Ok after 2 glassess of Wine….Boy I needed them….Watching McCains concession speech, I sobbed my eyes out. I feel better now…No really I am just numb and the reality will hit me in the morning. Thank you again.
You PUMAS ROCK
alohapuma 11.04.08 at 11:39 pm
JR Dogman 751
Ok…but I don’t think now is the time to be dismissive. People are really hurting. Some of the people on the blog did above and beyond…made huge sacrifices. There is a lot of pain right now. Sweeping it under the carpet can start tomorrow…OK
Oneof18million cracks... 11.04.08 at 11:39 pm
Americans just elected a man they know nothing about.
snowtiger007 11.04.08 at 11:40 pm
Libby 11.04.08 at 11:38 pm
I’ll wait to see the end of the real votes.
If it is still Obama, then I will start fighting him everyday, in every way.
He is a liar.
I am so with you
hillstheone 11.04.08 at 11:40 pm
What she said: “…when suffering is grave, the human heart must reach beyond the suffering for insight and grace.”
sheila7 11.04.08 at 11:41 pm
Danceswithpumas,
I couldn’t have said it better myself. My thoughts exactly.
ONLY IF THEY’RE MALE CHILDREN.
Lara08 11.04.08 at 11:41 pm
#762 Absolutely!
KarenWI 11.04.08 at 11:41 pm
Somebody asked where Murphy was…. well, she is probably in grave danger now and knows it. I wouldn’t be surprised if she isn’t seeking a way to hide… and I wouldn’t blame her.
mountainsong 11.04.08 at 11:41 pm
concession speech???? Now I’m really glad I haven’t had my TV on!!!
Hispanic4Hillary 11.04.08 at 11:41 pm
Lara08…I am originally from San Antonio…but live in Frisco TX now..
It is a sad and depressing night…
Ronan 11.04.08 at 11:41 pm
SouthernGAL68 11.04.08 at 11:37 pm
my heart hurts so deeply…
BarbNOBO 11.04.08 at 11:42 pm
655…Asian4Hillary…I thought you could only get back donations to the presidential election not the primaries? If so I will be calling tomorrow for my donations back from the primaries!
ontherocks 11.04.08 at 11:42 pm
Sitting here at my desk, I am really thinking about moving away. Maybe a nice island. Some place my kids can just be kids, a place where my dogs can run free, a place to open a bar, a place where my heart and head can live in peace.
I don’t know if a place like that is even out there. I use to think that place was America.
My hubby is really pissing me off. He doesn’t understand why I am so pissed off about this. The DNC now have the White House and the most seats.
TerryDo 11.04.08 at 11:42 pm
TrishfromCanada 11.04.08 at 11:24 pm
I really thought McCain would win, i’m holding out til all the votes are in, the projected winner is not adding up right
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Trish, if John McCain has already conceded the presidency, can he retract that concession and accept the nomination if the total votes indicate differently and that he had indeed won?
NoHillaryNoVote 11.04.08 at 11:42 pm
PUMAS – our fight has only begun. This one election was just one way to affect the Democratic party. Now that the election is over we will find other ways to be a continuous “pain in the b*tt” for the Democratic Leadership (Dean, Pelosi, Frank, Reid & Brazile).
Obama may be President, but my goal remains the same. For the next four years I still want to make life as miserable for Dean, Pelosi, Frank, Reid & Brazile as I possibly can. I don’t want them to have a minute’s rest. I want to keep that DNC gang answering for their actions every day for the next four years. I want to see their words and actions watched and challenged every day.
We may not be able to affect Obama’s popularity but we can sure bring to light those in the democratic party who were the master-minds behind the democratic primaries. We can make sure that this DNC gang is exposed for what they did and that other people hear the stories.
Obama may have the majority of people’s support today but I do not want the DNC to think this gives them a free pass to continue down the corrupt path they created. That democratic party became a gang of thugs who went after younger voters because they were counting on that age group to vote and then not be engaged for 4 years – so that the gang could do whatever they wanted. We cannot let that happen. We have to keep our eyes on that democratic gang and hold their feet to the fire every chance we get.
I don’t know how it is done, or exactly what we can do. But there must be a way. My dream would be to have Obama find himself in a position where he belongs to a party where the party leadership is hated & distrusted & challenged. We need to find a way to make it so that Obama will not want to be seen with that gang by his side.
For me the issue has ALWAYS been about the Democratic party & the leadership which hijacked our party away and took it down a path of shame & disgrace.
Let them have tonight / this week to celebrate what they perceive to be a victory. But then we need to do all we can to burst their bubble and show them that 18 million democratic voters have NOT forgotten what they did during the primaries and this election.
Many people who voted for Obama have absolutely NO CLUE regarding the democratic party leadership. But I think there is a way to expose the leadership and shame them, humiliate them, attack their credibility, & keep a negative focus on them for every vote, every decision, every media event, every dishonest thing they do, and every liberal/socialist bill they try to pass through.
I’m not smart enough to know how it’s done. But if PUMAs come up with a strategy, I’ll be behind it every day. I’ll blog, I’ll fax, I’ll make phone calls, I’ll protest in the streets for the next four years.
I don’t want Pelosi, Dean, Brazile, Frank or Dean to have one good night’s sleep for the next four years. They think they have it made now. They think they can do whatever they want because they are counting on most Americans to focus on Obama and ignore them. We MUST keep the negative light on the democratic party.
My vote today for McCain-Palin and my republican vote down my ballot was ALL about protesting the Democratic party and what it has become – especially that leadership. We cannot let that gang rest on electing Obama.
For me, Obama is just a side show. What I want is to see the DNC pay BIG time for what they did and to see their party & that party’s leadership see their personal popularity crash & burn.
I have a feeling Obama will find a way to distance himself from ANYONE who makes him look bad – just as he has done throughout this primary & election. He will turn away from his own family if he thinks he will lose popularity. If he sees that Dean, Pelosi, Frank, Brazile & Reid are unpopular – Obama will drop them like a hot potato because his ego won’t let him be around anyone who has negative PR.
Wouldn’t it be great if Dean became so unpopular that Obama replaced him at the DNC? Wouldn’t it be great if Reid was forced to step down from his leadership role because there was so much negative attention about him & his poor leadership? Wouldn’t be great if Pelosi & Frank didn’t have time to push through socialist/liberal bills & agendas because they were using all their time defending their past & current words & actions? Wouldn’t it be great if Brazile was viewed as so unpopular that Obama would stop pushing her out front to speak for him and no television news show would bring her on to serve as a pundit any more?
Let’s not lose sight of why this all began. It was our disgust with the democratic party. Our fight with them has only begun.
PUMAs tomorrow is a new day. Don’t give up. Don’t let the Obama win make you think we are done. The Democratic Party & its past actions cannot be forgotten by us, and we must do all we can to regain our party.
mountainsong 11.04.08 at 11:42 pm
KarenWI Yep, I hope she and RD and whoever is with her got away to a safe place.!!!
Lara08 11.04.08 at 11:42 pm
#767 Excuse me, but people don’t use that term (“wetbacks”). Totally inappropriate.
ck 11.04.08 at 11:42 pm
#754 hebrew.que, and others — The number to call for a refund of your contributions to Hillary for Prez is 212-213-3717.
Anna7000 11.04.08 at 11:42 pm
more importantly, black Americans can now tell their children, “Maybe you’ll grow up to be President someday,” without having to add the caveat, “if and when America is ready for it.”
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ONLY IF THEY’RE MALE CHILDREN.
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And the less experience, the better!
bodi1313 11.04.08 at 11:42 pm
I guess the youth of America have learned that if you viciously attack people, you can get your way. I am happy for the African American people of this country, but for me it is a very sad night.
sheila7 11.04.08 at 11:43 pm
Trishfromcanada,
Yup Black kids can now grow up knowing they too can lie, cheat, and steal an election!
Lovely role model Bo is.
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That’s exactly right. My son figured it out on his own, he already asked how someone could get away with cheating like he has.
LotusBoy 11.04.08 at 11:43 pm
I just signed off but came back for 1 more – wait for the stock market to tank another 400 points this week
Anna7000 11.04.08 at 11:43 pm
Re: post 786 – screwed up how it posted – the top two sections are from other bloggers – I added the last line. Couldn’t resist.
Seattlegirl 11.04.08 at 11:43 pm
goingtoMcVote : If BO didn’t get enough real votes then they will find the necessary votes in officially sealed ballot boxes in the basements of court houses everywhere.
Hispanic4Hillary 11.04.08 at 11:43 pm
I hope O gets on his plane and that plane just vanishes into thin air….I need another drink…
hillstheone 11.04.08 at 11:43 pm
#763 Flasunshiner,
Yes, actually I do that for some people in my life, both friends & some I’ve never met. I learned something recently though, even if you think you’re helping, don’t give anyone information you get about them unless they ask you for it. So far I only messed up on that once but one time was one time too many.
But you’re right, for the most part people do really appreciate the advice & validate it, and that is reason enough for me to keep puttin’ one foot in front of the other…
feeling_invisible 11.04.08 at 11:43 pm
I am grateful to be here. My poor dad was completely quiet.
He generally doesn’t show emotion. I could tell he’s as bummed out as I am. My mom wasn’t very emapthetic. She said she really doesn’t care.
But I do. Lady Like, you spoke to me. Thank you for your thoughts.
I suffer from depression. Tonight’s outcome doesn’t help my condition!
mountainsong 11.04.08 at 11:44 pm
Lara08 Well, either I’m not a people, or i’m using the wrong expression. What would you prefer? Since you are apparently the judge of what is or isn’t appropriate?
LeeinUSA 11.04.08 at 11:44 pm
SELL YOUR STOCK,
JR Dogman 11.04.08 at 11:44 pm
Look, I’m not saying I’m happy — I didn’t want this. Obama is not a good guy, he is a dirty Chicago pol. But what are we supposed to do, commit mass suicide?
If you feel very strongly about it, I suggest you donate to Philip Berg, and involve yourself somehow with his activities. I may do so myself, because I think his charges have merit.
Very bad things may indeed come shortly from an Obama administration, but what will come will come is my philosophy — I’m not going to give myself an ulcer worrying about what *might* happen. I do what I can do, then I pour myself a whiskey-rocks, kick back with a book, and shrug the problems of the world off my mind as best I can, lest I drive myself insane.
BarbNOBO 11.04.08 at 11:44 pm
Let’s face it…people vote for personality not character…The narcissist has pulled a real fast one on the American people…Dick Morris said that BO would get a lot of sympathy votes because of his grandmother!
Asian4Hillary 11.04.08 at 11:44 pm
BarbNOBO
I received full refund of my primary contribution to her campaign.
snowtiger007 11.04.08 at 11:44 pm
LotusBoy
400?
My you are an optimist.
I bet well over a thousand
NewOrleansPuma 11.04.08 at 11:45 pm
I will never pat myself on the back in the face of the demise of my country. I will also never give in the despot his brown shirts or whatever else this fricking minion of the void has planned. I will resist in any way I can and I hope to do so in the company of everyone here! So do not take my sober comments as a concession re everhing this Minion of the Void plans…oh no…do not mistake that.
LeeinUSA 11.04.08 at 11:45 pm
SELL YOUR STOCK, CASH IN YOUR SAVINGS, YOUR CD’S!
DIVIDEND TAX MCCAIN 15% (no change)
OBAMA 39.6% -
(How will this affect you? If you have any money invested in stock market,)
IRA, mutual funds, college funds, life insurance, retirement accounts, or anything that pays or reinvests dividends, you will now be paying nearly 40% of the money earned on taxes if Obama becomes president.
The experts predict that ‘Higher tax rates on dividends and capital gains would crash the stock market, yet do absolutely nothing to cut the deficit.’)
Hillgirl 11.04.08 at 11:45 pm
Well, all that happened today is this country condoned cheating, lying, fraud–the means justifies the ends. Our political system is in ruins in my opinion when a candidate can manipulate the system and the people and get away with it. God help us all. Everyone is making nice now on the news and Americans have a short memory so all will be forgotten. However, I have faith that the truth will out eventually. I knew that when Bush was elected, and I am convinced that all of the dirty tricks will eventually be exposed, and Obama will be exposed for the cheater that he is. I will await that day.
Thanks to all PUMAs for your courage, conviction and heart. Let us pray for the future of our country.
zolo 11.04.08 at 11:45 pm
some kid just walked by screaming, barack obama, bitch! There’s fireworks and people are out on the streets screaming.
Lara08 11.04.08 at 11:45 pm
#777 Let’s only be sad for a short while. We don’t want to become like Al Gore. That man never got over the 2000 presidential election. He still looks horrible. We’ll regroup in the next few days.
BTW, murphy should be proud of the work she did.
BarbNOBO 11.04.08 at 11:45 pm
Asian4Hillary…Thanks..I’ll be calling tomorrow! Never will I donate to a political campaign again…learned my lesson!!
TrishfromCanada 11.04.08 at 11:45 pm
TerryDo
I really don’t know, I would imagine it would be a legal battle.
ck 11.04.08 at 11:46 pm
#769 alohapuma — Thank you for saying that. I so agree. We PUMAs need to work through this process at our own pace, not have it dismissed, especially after having already endured so much during this election year.
onebigmac 11.04.08 at 11:46 pm
by bye MSM..(with the possible excpetion of Fox,the internet and talk radio..)
there will be two americas now with two different political and social cultures as well as parallel networks of allies and information.. america will be divided more than ever now..
its the obots against the rest of us now..
no more “united we stand” now..thats over..
ontherocks 11.04.08 at 11:46 pm
Hispanic4Hillary 11.04.08 at 11:43 pm
I hope O gets on his plane and that plane just vanishes into thin air….I need another drink…
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I have a few drinks tonight. LOL
Well PUMAs, what are we going to do next? We have to do something big. We can’t just pack up shop and quit. We have four years to BO to his kness and show everyone what a jackass he is.
goingtoMcVote 11.04.08 at 11:46 pm
Seattlegirl
Yeah it wouldn’t surprise me one bit….
ARRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!
I’m going to bed. I have a headache. I hope to wake up and find this was all a bad dream. If not I’m starting to plan my run for some office in 2009 and working my @#@!Q# way up from there!
hillstheone 11.04.08 at 11:46 pm
#784 Lara08, people are frayed around the edges tonight, the rules of this Blog are supposed to be: no racism, no gender bias, no putting down other PUMA’s, no putting down Hillary.
I’m sure it’s already been a long night for a lot of people, let’s try to focus on processing our feelings as well as building a plan for tomorrow. Because tomorrow is another day.
Pookie 11.04.08 at 11:46 pm
This reminds me on a lower scale how in school when someone broke the rules we all had to suffer, well they elected this no nothing,inexperienced, unqualified, dirt bag and the whole country has to suffer for 4 long years.and not only that we have to look at this uglier then Bess Truman venom spitting wife of his also. I just want to go on a mountain top and scream.I am very disappointed in Va, where I was born and raised.What happened to the military votes?
hebrew.que. 11.04.08 at 11:46 pm
Asian4Hillary #745:
Do you have the actual number? I don’t have the number for HillPac or Friendss of Hillary?
jenniforhillary 11.04.08 at 11:46 pm
I am sad in a way that will never go away. I felt this the day someone purposely ran over my cat (I am sobbing now). I felt this the day the only man I loved broke my heart after promising not to. I felt this the day I realized I had lost my best friend. I feel this now.
I love PUMAS…even the misguided ones, for giving me an extra couple of months of hope. real hope.
oh, and FUCK everyone who voted for him, shilled for him, pimped for him, and supported him. You are my enemy.
I am going to go crawl into bed and pretend that this, like all other life-changing days of sorrow, is just a bad dream.
To freedom fighters, to dreamers, to rebels everywhere…I raise my hand to you. You are my heart, you are my soul, you are me.
DancesWithPumas 11.04.08 at 11:47 pm
Oneof18million cracks… 11.04.08 at 11:39 pm
Americans just elected a man they know nothing about.
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That was part of the allure. They projected on to Odumbfuck whatever fantasy they held about a new direction.
alohapuma 11.04.08 at 11:47 pm
At some point the Obama will implode. It would have been better if it had happened before November 4th. He will. I keep saying he’s a pathological narcissist. Good things don’t happen around narcissists. We are in for a bumpy ride, but his downfall will be just as swift as his rise to power. It’s the natural way. The truth always come to the light.
TexasTigress 11.04.08 at 11:47 pm
Damn , They just called it for mary landrieu – grrrrr
KarenWI 11.04.08 at 11:47 pm
I guess one question comes to my mind now at “the end”… what happened to all of those PUMA votes??? Were there more ACORN false votes that just swept them all away? Or were more Hillary supporters “won over” than it appeared? Or did too many of them just not have the courage to vote for McCain so they did blank ticket or 3rd party? WHAT HAPPENED TO THE PUMAS???
feeling_invisible 11.04.08 at 11:47 pm
Can the Pumas unite and get some press tomorrow?? We need to let the media know that not everyone feels full of hope and victory and not everyone feels BO ran a “nearly flawless” campaign
BarbNOBO 11.04.08 at 11:48 pm
LeeinUSA…I plan to meet with my financial adviser tomorrow and will be selling all my mutual funds…I also have a waterproof metal box that I am burying and filling it with cash…just in case!!
exDemMcvoter 11.04.08 at 11:48 pm
#481 HillstheOne-
Thanks for bringing up the Constitution.
Here’s a suggestion for all of us, that maybe we can blog on in the future, especially if Obama is actually elected:
Let’s go thru the Constitution piece by piece til everyone really understands it. Then we can educate friends and family.
Honestly, I don’t believe most Americans have read or are aware of what’s actually in there and that’s a BIG part of our problem.
For instance, I’m pretty sure that the Federal Reserve System is absolutely illegal under the Constitution, and yet we’ve labored under that mess since 1913.
PS. I still think McCain might win this. I’ll believe otherwise after all the votes are counted.
Kerri 11.04.08 at 11:48 pm
Racism got him elected. “race didn’t matter in this election” Proof? They say well those who voted for him BECAUSE he was black were overwhelming in numbers verses those who voted against him because he is black.
HOW THE HELL isn’t that racist? It is JUST as ignorant.
Fact: Our country is done for.
We PUMA’s must stick together. Because I expect that we may well have to get together phsycially in a colony perhaps. Danger ahead.
Anna7000 11.04.08 at 11:48 pm
Against my better judgement, I requested a refund from Hillary’s campaing a couple of weeks ago. The check arrived today. Geez. I hadn’t realized I’d given as much as I had…I was giving in very small amounts, but it sure added up.
Anyway, I do believe that if the Clinton’s hadn’t campaigned so passinately for BO in key states, he would have had a much harder time winning them, if at all. I’m pissed as hell at the Clinton’s. I’m so pissed at so many women who went against Hillary: Pelosi, McCaskill, Boxer, etc.
Seems Shirley Chisolm’s experience still holds true today: That overcoming the hurdle of being a woman was much harder than that of being black.
Meanwhile, we’ve all been made to fear riots, etc, if Obama didn’t win. But, no one fears women and we make up slightly more than half the population. Not that I want someone to fear me. But, shit, this entire experience has been a painful painful reminder of the fact that we are at the bottom wrung of the ladder. Still. And I’m mad as hell about it.
Written off by everyone.
So fed up.
Lara08 11.04.08 at 11:48 pm
#794 For a long time now it has been understood that the term you used is insulting. As a Hispanic I find it insulting.
LeeinUSA 11.04.08 at 11:48 pm
Tell me HOW, Sarah Palin drew such HUGE crowds & the voting went so much for SATAN?
Tell me the last time anyone was elected on RAISING TAXES?
Tell me how Florida & Pennsylvania went to SATAN?
Tell me that McCain is not going to even look at voter fraud!
Tell me that McCain really thinks SATAN beat him legally!
The instances of voter fraud posted here & on other blogs is just the tip of the iceberg, there is no way SATAN won legally!
Margenau 11.04.08 at 11:49 pm
Hillgirl, I applaud your patient attitude, but I for one am pouring a Scotch and wondering how to get out of bed tomorrow.
Seattlegirl 11.04.08 at 11:49 pm
NoHillaryNoVote : I am with you 100%. It would have been easier to fight the corruption if the Dems had lost but they didn’t. But hey we are tough and we don’t need an easy fight. Bring it on.
Really I am sure we can sit back and watch this gang of Dems disillusion their own naive followers, we don’t have to make their disillusionment happen.
Flasunshiner 11.04.08 at 11:49 pm
hillstheone 793
I “read” people first. When I first started astrology in the early 1980′s I was so excited I asked everyone their sign which was ridiculous. Over the years I size up the person before I start any of that.
Trouble is, the better you get at it, it is painful. Like I can read barry and I know exactly what he did in his past and what he is going to do in the future. I know who he was in a prior life, and I know that he is once again trying to harm people. He has made a lot of enemies, and his future portends an unlucky life.
BrianH 11.04.08 at 11:49 pm
GBPuma #463;
I have zero belief in astrology, but you sure are saying things I like to hear! So far, what you say remains possible.
I just don’t know if the legal system has enough independence and guts to actually follow through on all of the clear offences Obama has committed.
tec1965 11.04.08 at 11:50 pm
oh my pumas we wil continue to fight for this great country and constitution obama did not beat john mcain he beat bush ,hopefully in two years we can redistribute the power away from these corrupt son of a bitches
Anna7000 11.04.08 at 11:50 pm
This is the number to call if you want a refund from Hillary:
“Friends of Hillary”
(212) 213-3717
And the best part is, they have someone call you a couple of days after you contact them, at which time, feel free to give them an earful. I know I did!
ck 11.04.08 at 11:50 pm
#813 hebrew.que and others — Once again, the number to call for a refund of your Hillary for Prez contributions is 212-213-3717. This is the second time I’ve posted this. Please jot it down, okay?
alohapuma 11.04.08 at 11:50 pm
Now that he’s won, our mission is bigger and more defined. Think of how much fun we are going to have taking him down. I cried for about a half hour, but done. Tomorrow is another day.
Dogman if you are still on…I apologize. You really sounded like an obot for a minute. Peace
snowtiger007 11.04.08 at 11:50 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXeDfXJ5Cx0
NewOrleansPuma 11.04.08 at 11:51 pm
#770 Onemillion cracks: They will know soon enough what we know and more when they beg for bread from their Master.
We here will never beg for anything from this Louse. We will defy him, his minions and everything he represents…At least I will, so help me God!
Ario 11.04.08 at 11:51 pm
hmmm funny none of my friends have called….lol
Kerri 11.04.08 at 11:51 pm
The Trojan Horse is being wheeled into the White House. What will the idiots who should have their citizenship (those who actually HAVE it) REVOKED for voting for this terrorist THINK when all those anit-American enemies and policies come swarming out of their messiah?
America is about to burn.
BarbNOBO 11.04.08 at 11:51 pm
jenniforhillary…..My feeling is that the people who voted for THAT ONE will be having buyers remorse when reality hits…He lacks the experience to take our country out of the mess it is in…My fear is that he will lead us in to a deep depression…just like Hoover!!
TrishfromCanada 11.04.08 at 11:51 pm
I’m not sad, I’m very worried
halligan 11.04.08 at 11:52 pm
Hi Pumas, Been a long time since I have posted. Just give this nation 6 mos. to a year to realize their biggest mistake of a life time. If we think the last 12 years has been awful, wait for the next two years. There will be a swing back to the middle in 2010. Until then, God help us all especially the above 50 yrs olds, women, and those of us who have worked are tails off for 30-40 years, saved, followed the rules, raised our kids, paid to the nose for their educations, and tried to not be a burden to them in our senior years. This administration will not help education, health care or the social security mess
feeling_invisible 11.04.08 at 11:52 pm
I’m sure you’re all familar with Lynn Forester De Rothschild-staunch Hillary supporter who has spoken out for McCain and against Hillary. Says HC will have a lot to answer to in 2012 if she runs again.
I think we need to contact her and thank her and ask if there’s anything we can collectively do to let our voices be heard. Not all young people like myself, like Obama!
Asian4Hillary 11.04.08 at 11:52 pm
mountainsong 11.04.08 at 11:37 pm
Asian4Hillary Ya know, I’ve agreed with you on just about everything since the beginning of all this. Is there something wrong with our perspective?
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Yes! Majority of the American people don’t know the real face of a corrupt politician even if its staring at them only an inch away from their face. Voters of this country believe whatever the media says, they never bother to do their own research especially where a person stand on every issue. There’s also blind loyalty to their own political party which is very apparent even in this site. When people put their loyalty to ANY politician, they can’t see straight; in fact they get mad at you when you state to them facts which are out there for them to see.
But the BIGGEST problem of USA is POLITICAL CORRECTNESS, when people trend towards political correctness, they start to lose their moral compass, thus deterioration of society as a whole. Instead of confronting what has gone wrong and call it as is, they’ll find excuses to justify it. That is what’s wrong with America today.
Am I surprise NObama able to squeak it into the Whitehouse? Hell shit no! This is not the fault of Bush, this is the fault of the American people itself!
bmm 11.04.08 at 11:52 pm
We lost this one but if we are serious about change there are the mid term elections to look forward to.
We may not be able to get Obama out for four years but we can, in two years, start breaking up the monopoly of extermists and get more moderate voices in the house and senate. let’s look to the future with that hope.
bmm 11.04.08 at 11:52 pm
We lost this one but if we are serious about change there are the mid term elections to look forward to.
We may not be able to get Obama out for four years but we can, in two years, start breaking up the monopoly of extermists and get more moderate voices in the house and senate. let’s look to the future with that hope.
antifish 11.04.08 at 11:52 pm
I’ve got to go to bed, been up since four this morning. just wanted to say that the thought of MO parading around the White House trying to be Jackie O, knowing how she hates this country, is almost more sickening to me than BO’s win. Needless to say, I won’t be watching any broadcasts from the White House for the next four years.
Seattlegirl 11.04.08 at 11:52 pm
Anna7000: Well I really feel the lack of violence is what has kept the women’s movement from working. I don’t see women rioting in the streets, we are usually much more undercover than that. But clearly there are a group of men who think they can ignore anything they don’t fear.
KarenWI 11.04.08 at 11:52 pm
Guys, you forget one thing. Obama has the backing of a super majority of congress. He, and Pelosi, now have ultimate power. Someone said they needed 2/3 majority of votes in the states to change the constitution. I would not put it past them to change whatever laws they had to change so that they themself could change the consitution. I think you gravely underestimate how badly Pelosi etal wanted this power and how they will do whatever they have to do so nobody can ever take it from them now that they have ABSOLUTE power. They now totally control all the brances of government. Or they will, once they put in a couple supreme judges. That will be the 3rd leg in the power. At that point they can do ANYTHING and change any laws they want. This is not America anymore guys. PLEASE… realize this is not just an election like any other and 4 years and we start over. This is not. This is not only going to be the start of WWIII (nuclear this time) with us on the wrong side (the side of our ENEMIES doggone it) but it will be absolute power that can’t be taken away in the hands of maniacs.
LeeinUSA 11.04.08 at 11:52 pm
BarbNOBO 11.04.08 at 11:48 pm
LeeinUSA…I plan to meet with my financial adviser tomorrow and will be selling all my mutual funds…I also have a waterproof metal box that I am burying and filling it with cash…just in case!!
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Everyone should be doing this, elsewise, SATAN will be taking 40% of your interest, your dividends, your college fund, your life insurance, all of it!!!
I will be storing my money also, no record of it anywhere for SATAN to take!
Anna7000 11.04.08 at 11:52 pm
Karen – No one’s ever had a real estimate of how many PUMAs there are, so it’s hard to wonder what happened to their votes. It’s always been my impression that we’re a relatively small but passionate group. Just not enough to swing an election. But that doesn’t mean we didn’t bring things to light and exercise our rights as Americans to speak out against wrongs. Just turns out the media didn’t care and neither did a lot of Americans. It’s scarey when there’s no media to go to. I, for one, feel like I’ve been pounding on the doors of the media, elected officials and others all year, pretty much, to no avail. It’s one of so many layers to all of this that makes it so very very hard, discouraging, depressing.
Margenau 11.04.08 at 11:53 pm
Anna, what’s terrible is that WOMEN elected Zero today. The Dems are an abusive boyfriend–they know you’ll always come running back, because where else are you gonna go, sweetie?
hillstheone 11.04.08 at 11:53 pm
#782, Right on!
” NoHillaryNoVote 11.04.08 at 11:42 pm
“PUMAS…Now that the election is over we will find other ways to be a continuous “pain in the b*tt” for the Democratic Leadership (Dean, Pelosi, Frank, Reid & Brazile)…For the next four years I still want to make life as miserable for Dean, Pelosi, Frank, Reid & Brazile as I possibly can. I don’t want them to have a minute’s rest. I want to keep that DNC gang answering for their actions every day for the next four years. I want to see their words and actions watched and challenged every day.”
There’s got to be some way we can push for a full, independent investigation into the Primaries and the DNC leadership.
hebrew.que. 11.04.08 at 11:53 pm
Asian4Hillary:
Where do I find the number for HillPac and Friends of Hillary?
Seattlegirl 11.04.08 at 11:54 pm
Yeah, I am so relieved we have someone in office who can say nuclear correctly by east coast standards now! Wow what a difference that will make for us.
kat in your hat 11.04.08 at 11:54 pm
Ario, how are you? You’ve got to have mixed feelings honey.
It’s ok to feel that way.
sheila7 11.04.08 at 11:54 pm
Anna7000,
Do you just leave a message at that number? I will be calling for my money too. It may not be popular here, but she let me down in a major way and I am done with her.
Also, I agree, I’m sick of being the bottom wrung on the ladder. It is getting really old.
BarbNOBO 11.04.08 at 11:54 pm
Did anyone notice that Sarah Palin had tears in her eyes when McCain was giving his concession speech? She is a REAL person…not like THAT ONE…all fake!!
ontherocks 11.04.08 at 11:54 pm
I have a very sick feeling that something very bad is going to happen and soon. I don’t like it. I can’t shake it.
How can anyone be proud that he is in office? Honestly people are crazy enough to elect him.
I am tired but I can’t sleep.
invalidresponse 11.04.08 at 11:54 pm
Dances…………..
Lara08 11.04.08 at 11:54 pm
#838 Trish, yes I’m not feeling sadness. I am mostly worried.
EWard 11.04.08 at 11:54 pm
I may not agree with President Bush’s policies or agenda but he wasn’t a Marxist and socialist President. This is a nightmare to have Bozo as the President. This man inspires the worst traits in his followers. I hate the media!
NewOrleansPuma 11.04.08 at 11:54 pm
LeeinUsa: I agree…but we have been saying that for almost 11 months…and showing it…shall we continue that? i don’t know. Right now all I know is this Louse is a minion of Evil and that is it…He is…I do know the difference as does everyone else here….else we would have rolled over months ago.
feeling_invisible 11.04.08 at 11:55 pm
Flasunshiner, wish I could have your contact info! I need advice on something personal…..
I agree this is more the fault of the American people than even Bush. Bush has made his big, deep mistakes, but now the American people have chosen to perpetuate those mistakes by electing a complete nincompoop..
kat in your hat 11.04.08 at 11:55 pm
Guys, let’s pray that he will be tempered. Let’s pray he will be a decent and real democrat and not get…like I fear he might.
alohapuma 11.04.08 at 11:55 pm
Anna7000 and Freddie and Dances…
You three are to be commended for a 100% give it all ya had effort here. I’m so proud to know all of you. Thank you for your tireless efforts and leadership. Be with us for the next go ’round. We need ya!
((((((3))))))
EWard 11.04.08 at 11:55 pm
BarbNoNO
I noticed Sarah’s tears also. Going to call for my Hillary refund.
NewOrleansPuma 11.04.08 at 11:56 pm
Hillsthe one: Well…did you fix your coconut Hurricane?
Did you name it yet? Something good must come of this night..and a new Hurricane with imagination certainly sounds a good candidate for that.
Anna7000 11.04.08 at 11:56 pm
haligen – How great to see you!
antifish – good night you wonderful PUMA…
BrooklynNY 11.04.08 at 11:56 pm
The nightmare has become a reality. I can’t believe this has happened….I can’t believe people could have been so blind and so stupid. I am so depressed….
They were cheering outside on my street, car horns honking…. screams of cheer, etc. Let them cheer and honk now because it won’t be long before they’re crying in their beer when all their insane expectations aren’t happening, when their fantasy leader fails to deliver.
This was the easy part for “The One.” Wait till the gimme gimmes start getting the mud thrown in their faces. Wait till they see how little the Democratic Party and their new god really cares about them. Wait till they realize how deeply they were used and how little they matter….
They better drink and cheer and celebrate now. Because it ain’t going to be pretty what happens next.
Yep. As my father used to always tell me, “Be careful what you wish for, you just may get it.”
I see this as truly the “end of innocence” for America. 9-11 was the first step. We never believed something like that could happen here. Now this election is the second phase. No one, with the exception of a small minority believed what just happened in this “election” could happen here.
When the dust settles and the true picture of what this is going to usher in for America and the world comes through, the party will surely be over, in more ways than one. America will truly have to “grow up” and face the music. And it’s going to be one sad song.
ontherocks 11.04.08 at 11:56 pm
I do agree with my mom and others. If you have money in CDs, stocks, bonds whatever. Now would be a good time to take it out.
I just saw my paycheck getting smaller and smaller.
Hispanic4Hillary 11.04.08 at 11:56 pm
We just need to start a new party and fuck the dems and repubs..We need better choices for the American people.
As far as I am concern all the Obots can go fuck themselves.
I will be asking for my transfer to Canada for a few years…I dont think I can live in the U.S. with this jerk as our POTUS. I really wish something drastic would happen..
mountainsong 11.04.08 at 11:57 pm
Lara08 Listen!!! Is there some rulebook that says a “wetback” (someone who crosses a border illegally) is always Hispanic? FYI, I am half native american and half white. I am also hermaphroditic (but more female than male). Now then~~~I’m not in a real pleasant mood right now so Don’t FUCK with me. Go tell a democrat or someone that gives a shit!!!
Oneof18million cracks... 11.04.08 at 11:57 pm
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TexasTigress 11.04.08 at 11:31 pm
Hey – I’m not finished yet !!!!!!!!!!!!
The electoral college hasn’t voted yet , and I will ” never give in, never give in, never, never, never, never—in nothing, great or small, large or petty—never give in except to convictions of honour and good sense. Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the enemy.”
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Peter Pan never wanted to give in to growing up.
The Emperor never wanted to give into believing he was naked.
Sooner or later you just have to accept reality, come into the light and give up the fight. It was bigger than us.
We can’t fight a force bigger than us. Let’s all pray for the safety of this country. Let’s pray good will come from this some how. We all know how he got elected, we know more than we probably wish to. Regardless it is what it is.
I am very proud of every PUMA. We fought the good fight. So now I will say good night. I look forward to hearing from Murphy. I feel a bit sad she was not here with us. The ship without the captain as the storm came in. I am sure she too is trying to process all of this.
As Eva Parone would say, “Don’t cry for me Argentina.” Ciao
justnotright 11.04.08 at 11:57 pm
My heart goes out to John McCain. He was by far the better person and the better candidate and he ran an honorable campaign we can all be proud of. I really have a deep respect and affection for him. He fought valiantly for us. When I think about that last day of the campaign when he did seven rallies in seven cities… That is the stuff legends are made of.
He loved PUMAs and truly respected us. He needed our help to win and together we came so close.
He was the only Republican I ever wanted to vote for. A true moderate and bipartisan. America has rejected bipartisanism for totalitarian tactics. I’m very disappointed in my fellow Americans.
When you consider Obama’s illegal contributions, his complicity in vote-fraud, his control over the media, the financial meltdown AND McCain having to run as a Republican following Bush’s lousy presidency, McCain did AMAZINGLY well. He almost overcame the Obot onslaught.
I hope to one day get to meet him and shake his hand and thank him for fighting for us. He is my hero and an inspiration.
We did not get the miracle we so deperately needed.
America really will be fundamentally changed. Try to picture the America we grew up with, because it’s gone. Personally, I think Obama is going to see to it that America no longer enjoys “superpower” status among the nations. If we’re lucky, we’ll be on parity with European countries.
The Obama election will probably push Israel to elect a right-winger, knowing that it cannot count on the support of the USA vs. Iran. In the meantime, it may act on Iran sooner, knowing that Obama might try to prevent the Jewish State from defending itself in the future.
The only thing we can do as PUMAs is ask ourselves where we go from here. We can’t go “home” again.
I can’t believe we missed another chance to put a woman in the White House. This sets the women’s movement back yet again.
I’d like to believe Sarah Palin will be ready in 2012 but out of sight as governor of Alaska I don’t think she’ll have the chance to mature politically into a national figure again to the point where she would be a natural choice. I hope I’m wrong about this, because I really like her citizen-politician zest and honesty.
Anna7000 11.04.08 at 11:57 pm
aloha – (((((((((((4)))))))))))))))
really.
Asian4Hillary 11.04.08 at 11:57 pm
This is the number you MUST call to get your CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTION REFUND FROM HILLARY, ask for FULL REFUND!
Friends of Hillary
(212) 213-3717
Anna7000 posted the phone number. Thanks Anna.
Ario 11.04.08 at 11:57 pm
kat
i refuse to say that prayer….im not the least bit interested in giving that fucking racist fraud any wiggle room!
feeling_invisible 11.04.08 at 11:57 pm
BarbNobo-yes I noticed Palin’s tears-and McCain looked watery-eyed too.
Unlike Obama yesterday, I mean cripes, his beloved “Toot” died and here he is with a stone-cold “I don’t care about anyone but myself” face.
Anna7000 11.04.08 at 11:57 pm
Where’s Texas Tigress?
Where’s Murphy?
zolo 11.04.08 at 11:57 pm
Berg is on the radio
http://www.patriotbrigaderadio.com/livejava.php
hillstheone 11.04.08 at 11:58 pm
snowtiger #833, pretty funny, thanks, I needed that.
NewOrleansPuma 11.04.08 at 11:58 pm
KarenW: Pelosi will not be the Speaker of the House under Obama. She will be dumped. This stupid woman does not get that yet…
Seattlegirl 11.04.08 at 11:58 pm
Margenau : But just think! We have proven that a guy with a black dick and no experience can get elected! What a fine country we are now! Hey maybe in 50 years a woman with 5 times the experience of any man who has ever been President can be elected!
Of course there is a possibility that Pelosi is the puppet master of BO. It is common for women to indirectly take power. Time will tell. And it will certainly be interesting. One thing I have sure gained from this election is folks like you guys to talk with. Love you all!
GoToday 11.04.08 at 11:58 pm
Amen to “Ladylike” … our prayers are with you too!
bodi1313 11.04.08 at 11:59 pm
Marjenau #846
You are so right. I never again want to hear a word from any feminist claiming the are not given a fair shake. Women turned on Hillary and then Sarah Palin. Women in this Country deserve what they get.
Anna7000 11.04.08 at 11:59 pm
Margenau – Yup.
shiela7 – another great person who reappeared recently! when i called someone answered. i told them what i wanted. they took my name and number and said someone would get back to me in a couple of days, which they did.
Flasunshiner 11.04.08 at 11:59 pm
Hispanic4Hillary 865
PUMA is the new third party.
NObamaDem 11.04.08 at 11:59 pm
He’s speaking now. This sucks.
HiHat 11.04.08 at 11:59 pm
The Messiah speaks…
invalidresponse 11.04.08 at 11:59 pm
………………DANCES…………….
if your here…just wanted to leave this for ya…
(might want to add to action center…lol)
http://www.belizerealestate.com/
onebigmac 11.05.08 at 12:00 am
look people.. just avoid annoying obots out there who will be braying like jackasses.. let them bray all they want.. just take care of business and everything will be ok..we just have to try harder to take obama down se he doesnt thieve our pocketbooks and give away the little we have to the bums who love him..
just ask yourself..
do you really think the real powers fortune 500 types behind most politicians would ever truly allow a bum like obama to mess with their money and power??? hell NO!
obama is just a glorified token desk front receptionist sitting in the lobby of the fortune 500 HQ..thats all..
he dares go against the will of the rich power elite and they would crush him like a bug just like they did JFK!
snowtiger007 11.05.08 at 12:00 am
night anti
BarbNOBO 11.05.08 at 12:00 am
I am a small business owner…I told my employees if BO wins they may be looking for other employment…If my taxes go up I’ll be selling my business and moving to Florida to sell t-shirts on the beach!!
HiHat 11.05.08 at 12:01 am
#872
Yeah, where IS Murphy?
bmw60 11.05.08 at 12:01 am
I cannot watch the “victory” party … a liar, cheat and obvious socialist has won … buying his way to victory… Our America as we know it is gone… and I will fight with my last breath to stop this man. He must be stopped because of all that he stand for. There is no happiness in this household about this election. I only know that all that I loved about America is still in my heart.
We must rise to fight this man who bought the presidency. We must be ever vigilant to continue to expose this man for what he is.
We must … we must…. we must!!!
Anna7000 11.05.08 at 12:01 am
So now we’ll have Obama in the Executive branch, a Dem majority in Congress, and at least one if not two Supreme Court appointments by someone who would like to tweak our Constitution just a wee bit.
Great.
halligan 11.05.08 at 12:01 am
Everyone in my family was for Obama. They act like I’m the loser. Well, I hope that I can sit back and tell them in a few months “I told you, but you wouldn’t listen.” I’ll NEVER vote Republican or Democrat anymore in my life. I will vote as an independent and no one, not any politician will EVER get a dollar of mine from now on. Call me bitter, old, and impugnant, but at least I have a conscience to never treat my fellow man and woman like we have been treated during the primary and this campaign. I will NEVER forget the treatment of Hillary Clinton and President Clinton by the party “faithful”. It was exactly the way I was treated as a woman politician and no one, not anyone, will ever feel the pain that I went through in twelve years of office because of men and women treating as a second class citizen. It’s too personal and I’m staying focused on making sure that everytime Obama, his administration and this egotistical congress do not do what they promised or do something that is worse than the Republicans, I will be right there to continue the fight of standing up for truth and justice, fairness and change (true change). Boycotting organizations like NOW and Emily’s List are going to be a priority. They weren’t there when Hillary needed them, and they aren’t there for any of us. They are just covering their tails in order for someone to throw them a carrot called MONEY and POWER.
Pookie 11.05.08 at 12:02 am
EWard: I said almost those exact words tonight I said well Bush might have been a mess up but at least he was a Natural Citizen of the United States
Anna7000 11.05.08 at 12:02 am
Oneof18MillionCracks – Very wise words.
Lara08 11.05.08 at 12:02 am
#866 I’ve explained to you in very polite terms why that term is not commonly used. I can’t control you. I am a person of color but that does not mean it is appropriate for me to use terms that other people of color find to be derogatory. But, it’s a free country. It was my impression that you didn’t know about how that term is used in a negative way, but clearly you do know. O.K.
SergeiRostov 11.05.08 at 12:02 am
Karen – Unless they were ousted in the primaries (I’m not sure, but I doubt it) , 25% of the Dems in the House and Senate are still going to be Blue Dog (conservative) Dems, who vote with the Republicans when the Dems are in the majority (just as they have the last two years). To get anything accomplished, Obama would have to reach out to either them or conservatives in the Republican Party, as he’s shown neither the ability nor the willingness to do so.
phatphat 11.05.08 at 12:03 am
I have been on the Prowl mailing list since it started, and have participated in the prowls. Just joined the wordpress/blog or whatever this is. I am really pissed off at America right now, and want to be a part of whatever we can do to make sure this nightmare is only 4 years long. The Demon just said ‘Change has come to America’, I say ‘Obamunism has just come to America’.
justnotright 11.05.08 at 12:03 am
For those who are mad at McCain for not running a dirtier campaign, I have to disagree that it would have helped. Obama voters have proven that they would not care if Obama was a pedophile or serial rapist.
They repeatedly refused to listen to reason.
America has elected a radical, dishonest, arrogant and vile politician and the country will reap what it sews.
blondlady 11.05.08 at 12:03 am
Well, there he is. Just look what money can buy. This is so sad.
hillstheone 11.05.08 at 12:03 am
Calling all attorneys & electorates
zolo,
Did you hear Berg say he’s open to help from other attorneys and from electorates? He says the defendants have until Dec 1st to respond.
He says keep your chin up everybody, “because the truth shall prevail.”
TerryDo 11.05.08 at 12:03 am
OMG, Obama has gone back to him rhythmic sing/song preacher sounding talk.
I find it so annoying and condescending I fell sorry for you who have to listen to him all year long for the next 8 years.
Because you know they are already working on that angle.
LeeinUSA 11.05.08 at 12:03 am
I came here right after the DNC convention, as I saw the corruption that happened there.
I have been a registered Dem & also a registered Rep over the years & now I intend to be an independant!
I am going to join the PUMA’s and work with you! I have seen more determination here than any other place I’ve visited or been a member of.
Conservatives (republicans) whine & moan but basically do nothing, no action. They will lay there & moan for the next 4 years, but the PUMA’s intend to keep going, to take action & not let this corrupt political machine take over this country.
Democrats are no more. The horribly corrupt radicals have taken over the Dem party. JFK would be rolling in his grave tonite!
I will join you & I will work with you, the only answer to this mess is a dedicated group like yours.
I feel honored to have been allowed to join the blog & get to know what you are all about over these months.
Thank you all so much, I will be a familiar face around here, you can bet on that!
Lee
snowtiger007 11.05.08 at 12:03 am
hillstheone
Hills we got until th e 20th to get in shape to fight the good fight.
alohapuma 11.05.08 at 12:03 am
onebigmac
makes a lot of sense. Braying…..LOL!! Kinda like the winning the superbowl. It’s about the same to them.
NewOrleansPuma 11.05.08 at 12:03 am
Does anyone know for sure if the usurped Socialist Democratic Party achieved 6o in the Senate?
1gypsy4mc 11.05.08 at 12:03 am
Damn it!! He is NOT the POTUS yet. We have 2 more months to get things out to the news media – every radical association he’s ever had!! HE IS NOT THE PRESIDENT YET!!!!!
Pookie 11.05.08 at 12:04 am
Someone said on here we would bring nobama down I would like to know how? We couldn’t stop him from getting in the White House and Lord know’s we certainly tried.
EWard 11.05.08 at 12:04 am
We have elected the first Mafia President! Margenau is right, stupid women gave BO this victory.
feeling_invisible 11.05.08 at 12:04 am
Halligan
It disturbs me how eery these obamaites are, how they make you feel as you said like a “loser”
They are so sucked in to his Obamadrama it’s amazing.
Just wait and see. The media is so far up his butt right now but just watch BO make his first Presidential blunder and they will turn on him eventually.
Asian4Hillary 11.05.08 at 12:04 am
This is the number you MUST call to get your CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTION REFUND FROM HILLARY, ask for FULL REFUND!
Friends of Hillary
(212) 213-3717
KarenWI 11.05.08 at 12:04 am
NewOrleans… You think that Obama will dump Pelosi? No.. that crew of so-called democrats who really aren’t democrats like her are the ones who got him the victory! No, they are all in this together. In fact, to be honest, I don’t think Obama is that smart. I think he is the puppet of the dem leaders like Pelosi, Reid, etal….
JR Dogman 11.05.08 at 12:04 am
alohapuma,
No apology necessary. The truth is, I’m pretty worried, just like you. I don’t know if you saw an earlier post in which I said I was a Republican, but I am, and I’m not happy. I believe Constitutional Originalism as a judicial philosophy is the only way to go — it is the only safe way to go, because if the Constitution means only what it says and no more, then the legislators have to deliberately amend the Constitution to make any sweeping changes.
For example, I’m PRO-CHOICE — I want to make that clear — but I am AGAINST Roe v. Wade, precisely because I believe it set the ball rolling with the very dangerous notion of a “living” Constition. The Constition is our rule book, and it was very deliberately crafted by the Founders to prevent tyranny, and for this reason, I think Obama is bad news.
But I can only do so much, and I can only wait and see what he does, and hope that, if he reaches for something crazy, he will be stopped somehow. Until then, I can support Philip Berg’s efforts — see. http://www.obamacrimes.com — but that is about all I can do, until 2010.
hebrew.que. 11.05.08 at 12:05 am
ck: Thank you for the number. I wrote it down. I missed your first posting of the number. Thank you for your help.
ck 11.05.08 at 12:05 am
Apologies in advance for saying this but, any PUMA who can watch the BO victory speech/bash, even for a moment, should seriously reconsider whether they are or ever were truly a PUMA. (Also, I’m fantasizing that BO over-indulges tonight and accidentally OD’s. Oops, did I say that out loud?)
feeling_invisible 11.05.08 at 12:05 am
Asian:
Where can people who didn’t donate money but still donated their TIME call and complain? The same number?
BarbNOBO 11.05.08 at 12:05 am
GAG…BO is speaking now…just promised his girls a new puppy when they move into the White House…He sounds so arrogant and insincere…I feel sorry for his kids…just turned off the TV!!
ontherocks 11.05.08 at 12:05 am
I want to know the outcome of every state damn it!
Murphy, if you are lurking please know I have a great amount of respect for you. We have done many good things and will continue to do so. (Just not sure what right now, lol)
GAPeach 11.05.08 at 12:05 am
So now do we just sit around and wait for The One to be tested, like Biden warned? This country is full of some very sick, twisted people and we just elected two of them.
ceacea 11.05.08 at 12:06 am
This is not the government that we deserve, but it should be for the people that voted bozo. But we will have to pay dearly too. I cannot believe no one has brought up checking all the votes to see if they are legal. Especially in the states that had the most electorial votes. Those appear to be the ones that bozo won. John Mccain won so many of the others
onebigmac 11.05.08 at 12:06 am
i dont know..now i sort of feel like america has become one huge garbage dump now that they have a little street thug like obama as president.. president obama!!..president of the garbage dump!!
1gypsy4mc 11.05.08 at 12:06 am
ALL THE VOTER FRAUD – OHIO, FLORIDA, COLO, VIRGINIA – the military absentte ballots!!!!!!!!!!! HE IS NOT THE PRESIDENT YET!!!!!!!!
lizben08 11.05.08 at 12:06 am
Just made my Christmas shopping easier for my Obama family. I am picking a charity of MY liking, donating in their name and giving them all “Share the Wealth” cards. I’m sure they will love it and will save me a lot of time:)
Anna7000 11.05.08 at 12:06 am
LOTS of people gave Obama this victory, not just “stupid women”. He captured Hispanics, Jews, Catholics, blue collar, rich, and on and on…
sheila7 11.05.08 at 12:06 am
Anna7000,
Thanks for the info.
Good night everyone. I’m going to try to sleep, probably won’t be successful. I am deeply worried. You know, when Bush won I wasn’t happy but I didn’t have this gnawing fear in my gut like I do now. I don’t know why everyone can’t feel it and see it. I have actually shed tears over this.
DancesWithPumas 11.05.08 at 12:06 am
Let’s see. During this election cycle we learned from black people that blacks can discriminate, but they can’t be racist, because they don’t have power over the dominant culture. That it’s okay for them to discriminate based on color because they have a duty to stand up to their oppressors.
We also know that we can’t call illegal immigrants illegal “aliens”, because they are people, just like anyone else.
We also learned that it’s quite okay to call women “hos, “whore’”, “bitches”, “ballbreakers”, “castrating bitches”, and “cunts”.
The only causes I will support, for the rest of my life, are those aimed specifically toward the quality of life (power, status, financial independence, education, achievement), of women and girls (girls and women of African descent (the strongest women on this planet), white, mediterranean, african, asian, indigenous women, latinas).
Everyone else is on their own. No contributions, no ego stroking, no listening to your whining, no votes, no support, no assistance, no protest marches, no campaigning, no emails, no activism. No nothing.
Pick up your own effing sox and stop draining us for your overblown ego, neediness, comfort, and support. You already got yours. It’s our turn now, so either help (without bragging), or get the hell out of our way.
CTKEY 11.05.08 at 12:07 am
Third election in a row that is a disaster. He just quoted Lincoln. Disgusting.
NewOrleansPuma 11.05.08 at 12:07 am
EWard: Now just a damn minute here, Eward…Stupid women?
Get off that…now. Men and women were seduced by this liar.
Ario 11.05.08 at 12:07 am
i wonder what the response from the middle east is
phatphat 11.05.08 at 12:07 am
Asian4Hillary, did you get a FULL refund, or just what you contributed over the primary limit?
feeling_invisible 11.05.08 at 12:07 am
NoBO: I don’t feel one bit sorry for his spoiled little brats.
We are supposed to worship them and fawn all over them just like we are supposed to with him.
SCREW THAT!
hillstheone 11.05.08 at 12:07 am
#861 NewOrleans, Yes (how do you think I’m surviving?!), & it’s delicious!
Names, let’s see, how about Tropical Tradewinds w/a twist?
or Hawaiian Hurricane?! or an ode to the msm, Hawaiian blackout?!!
HiHat 11.05.08 at 12:07 am
Kat,
Why so cryptic?
Anna7000 11.05.08 at 12:07 am
gypsy – give it up. he won. you’re going to make yourself sick.
Murphy – If you’re lurking, my hat’s off to you. Your silence has me concerned and I hope you’re surrounded by all the love you deserve tonight.
Cat in NJ 11.05.08 at 12:08 am
I’ve been away from here for a while … what’s the update on Murphy’s PUMA/Audacity documentary? I was impressed with the preview trailers when they debuted on youtube during the summer. The Nobama momentum must be kept alive. He cannot be reelected for a second term.
Just wondering … anyone here giving up on the Democratic party for good?
BrooklynNY 11.05.08 at 12:08 am
PUMAs. We must stick together. No matter how disheartened and depressed we are now, we must stick together and make something good come of this evil. We fought as good a fight as we could have fought…..
In the days ahead we have to really do some soul-searching. We have to literally continue to put “country first.” Forget all those arbitrary divisions – Republican/Democrat, etc. We have to continue working on, uniting with others who care about their country first and bring American back to the ideals and values it stands for. I see this election as the culmination of a descent we’ve been on, culturally, spiritually, etc. for a long time now. We’ve lost our way and this election is forcing us to confront what we’ve lost by showing us how low we’ve gone. We’ve hit bottom. Now it’s time to work on bringing ourselves and our country back up.
It will not be easy and we cannot let ourselves be discouraged. We have to convert our rage and our disappointment to concerted, long-range patient action.
We must allow something good to come from this bad.
hillstheone 11.05.08 at 12:08 am
CTKEY, “He just quoted Lincoln,” how can you watch that, you are a stronger soul than I…
BrianH 11.05.08 at 12:08 am
#609 mountainsong 11.04.08 at 11:09 pm
This is almost exactly what happened when Hitler came to power.//
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Nah. He was a minority party leader who was offered the job by Hindenberg out of sheer desperation, after two previous Chancellors had suggested military rule to get through the crisis.
zolo 11.05.08 at 12:09 am
hillstheone 11.05.08 at 12:03 am
Calling all attorneys & electorates
zolo,
Did you hear Berg say he’s open to help from other attorneys and from electorates? He says the defendants have until Dec 1st to respond.
He says keep your chin up everybody, “because the truth shall prevail.”
Yes, he made it sound like he only needs one electorate to get on board. I heard him say this a few days ago and I thought he would have had one by now.
halligan 11.05.08 at 12:09 am
The last I heard was that the Dems were going to fall 3 short of the 60. Thank heavens there will be some balance somewhere. The House definitely met the margin of preventing a fillibuster of any kind.
justnotright 11.05.08 at 12:09 am
One day I will want to view McCain’s concession speech on youtube but right now I’m too faklempt.
I am very lucky to be in Australia right now is all I can say. I am going to put myself in a news blackout for a few days for my own sanity, although I will still visit here and other PUMA sites to be with my kindred spirits.
I will never, NEVER put myself through listening to Obama’s acceptance speech. I’m not a masochist.
Ario 11.05.08 at 12:09 am
i cant bear to listen to him…lol…everytime he starts his bullshit up i hit the mute
mountainsong 11.05.08 at 12:09 am
Margenau Yes, I think it’s an honest assessment to say women elected BO. Women and Racists. But this is far from over.
CTKEY 11.05.08 at 12:09 am
#927…Cat…me…I will always be an independent voter and a PUMA, but not a member of a party.
BarbNOBO 11.05.08 at 12:09 am
I feel like I am living in Germany in the 1940′s…People chanting…Obama, Obama, Yes We Can, Yes We can….God they’re all under his spell!!
Seattlegirl 11.05.08 at 12:09 am
I am sure Murphy is working on the next PUMA angle or she might be resting. She is a person who receives inspiration. She deserves time to just be. I worry if she doesn’t get enough of that time the background noise will be too loud for her to hear her inspirations. Stop panicking PUMAs. The world didn’t end. This is just a challenge we have no choice but to accept.
tec1965 11.05.08 at 12:09 am
pumas these left wing nuts are going to fuck up so bad that in two years they are out of power all of their plans depend on that majority that they will have for two years
and lets pleae not forget not all dems are left wing nuts and some may show some fuckin backbone and caucus with republicans if these scumbags try and hurt our constitution
some dems may actually stand up for america
justnotright 11.05.08 at 12:10 am
934 Ario
Welcome to the next four years. I’m going to wear the mute button out on my remote.
mountainsong 11.05.08 at 12:10 am
Ario Ya mean you have your TV ON??? Are you a masochist?
phatphat 11.05.08 at 12:10 am
‘Spirit of service. Spirit of sacrifice.’ Sacrifice to what? The O-Ego?
Lara08 11.05.08 at 12:10 am
Two of my friends said they’ll believe BO will be prez when they see him be inaugurated in January. As some of you have said, there are still two months to go.
ontherocks 11.05.08 at 12:10 am
Cat in NJ:
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I already did
Anna7000 11.05.08 at 12:10 am
halligan
sorry for misspelling your name in my prior post…
thanks so much for the update on congress. are these numbers hard and fast and final, or are some races still undecided?
hillstheone 11.05.08 at 12:11 am
#926 Anna, I suspect, like a good leader, Murphy’s pondering the next steps of our Powerful PUMA alliance! “We are a force to be reckoned with,” Murphy’s probably deciding who or what needs to be reckoned with first.
I know you were very busy this week Anna, are you doing OK tonight?
1gypsy4mc 11.05.08 at 12:11 am
Anna7000 You never gave up Anna! I’ve never seen you give in. I’m bawling my eyes out, but I’m not giving up!!!
EWard 11.05.08 at 12:11 am
#863 BrooklynNY
Very wise words!
BrooklynNY 11.05.08 at 12:11 am
Who wrote THAT speech? He sure as hell doesn’t possess any of those sentiments….
More sprinkling’s of kool-aid for the masses…..
Bullshit. Bullshit. Bullshit.
NewOrleansPuma 11.05.08 at 12:11 am
Hillstheone: I like,for what it is worth, Tropical Tradewinds..myself…so the only differnce is you added the Coconut flavored rum to the other ingredients?
Asian4Hillary 11.05.08 at 12:11 am
Our countrymen has spoken, they’ve elected NOBAMA as their President. Start praying this country will not attack again because I have the gut feeling many people will sit down and let it happen; the Democratic Party will concede to terror attacks against USA.
I’ve done my civic duty in this election like others in forum; I voted straight Republican ticket and damn proud of my vote. I have no regrets, I feel good! Ohhhhhhhh! Hell Yeah!
mountainsong 11.05.08 at 12:11 am
IF We’re really, really lucky, either Biden or McCain will be inaugurated.
blondlady 11.05.08 at 12:11 am
BHO just said he would always listen, especially when we disagree. Tell that to the reporters who got kicked off of the plane. Let’s see how he feels tomorrow when the lawsuits kick in.
Ario 11.05.08 at 12:15 am
murphy is collecting her thoughts lets give her some time
Lara08 11.05.08 at 12:15 am
And I still want to see that birth certificate. Hee hee
onebigmac 11.05.08 at 12:15 am
we will need a new breed of candidate that can take on the obamas of the world..a new improved super candidate that will know how to beat thugs like obama..
obama is a new trick that mccain just wasnt prepared to deal with..
but now all that that will change..obama will be the first and only race card thug candidate to get into the presidency..
hillary was starting to figure him out but she ran out of time.. too bad. she should have won..
hillstheone 11.05.08 at 12:15 am
“This is just a challenge we have no choice but to accept,”
(((Seattlegirl))) !
IndyBoomer 11.05.08 at 12:15 am
RE: antifish 11.04.08 at 11:52 pm
I’ve got to go to bed, been up since four this morning. just wanted to say that the thought of MO parading around the White House trying to be Jackie O, knowing how she hates this country, is almost more sickening to me than BO’s win. Needless to say, I won’t be watching any broadcasts from the White House for the next four years.
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My thoughts exactly. The thought of MO in the White HOuse just creeps me out. That’s the worst thing about this whole situation. The only thing to do is believe in karma.
Seattlegirl 11.05.08 at 12:15 am
It will be interesting to see what Hillary does now. I have always wondered if she was threatened or bribed to sit down and shut up. If she stays just another Senator we will know she was threatened.
zolo 11.05.08 at 12:15 am
Yeah BrooklynNY !
Yes, we must realize that we will need to roll up our shirt sleeves and get to work. No man will ever understand what it feels like to be a second class citizen. We must change something in our society. I witness sexism from so many men this past year and they don’t even know they are sexist. This has to be changed. Civil rights and women’s rights were electrified together in the 60s as it will be again, now.
MKfromLA 11.05.08 at 12:15 am
Republicans exhalted when GWBush stole the election in 2000. Tonight it is the Democrats who have betrayed America.
The only way to recover the great gift we were given is for Democrats & Republicans stop fighting each other, and to start fighting the evil in both parties. This is what PUMAs have done. I am proud of us.
I believe that we are seeing the last great test of America’s soul.
Question for me now is – shall I go elsewhere or stay and fight some more?
Anna7000 11.05.08 at 12:15 am
hillstheone – i hope murphy and other leaders in this movement will take a few days to decompress and reflect. best not to react too fast without digesting first and coming up with a solid game plan. that will take time….as for me, i’m doing ok. been bracing myself for tonight’s outcome for weeks, though it’s still hard to actually absorb.
gypsy – crying, bawling, sobbing is needed. more power to you for being able to let it out. i’ve got it pushed down too far right now. but it will come.
mountainsong 11.05.08 at 12:15 am
justnotright You and me both. I haven’t had my TV on for a lil over two days now. And I’m not going to. Oh, do I wish I was in Australia.
NewOrleansPuma 11.05.08 at 12:15 am
937BarbNobamo: I said that earlier in a post..my nephew was looking at CBS and we were on the phone..I did not turn the TV on at all tongiht and he said it was very scarey..they looked just like the groups in Munich square under Hitler, films of which I have as many others have seen. I do not wish to see it in my country…It is bad enough to know it is happening.
SergeiRostov 11.05.08 at 12:15 am
Oh, something I just remembered from 2004 when Kerry conceded so soon:
A concession has ABSOLUTELY NO LEGAL STANDING WHATSOEVER.
So we’ll see what happens.
Oneof18million cracks... 11.05.08 at 12:16 am
866 mountainsong 11.04.08 at 11:57 pm
Lara08 Listen!!! Is there some rulebook that says a “wetback” (someone who crosses a border illegally) is always Hispanic? FYI, I am half native american and half white. I am also hermaphroditic (but more female than male). Now then~~~I’m not in a real pleasant mood right now so Don’t FUCK with me. Go tell a democrat or someone that gives a shit!!!
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We all understand your anger and disappointment. Name callling and vulgarity may be your way of expressing yourself but for some of us it’s offensive.
Let’s try to respect each other in spite of our anger and disappointment.
Margenau 11.05.08 at 12:16 am
Anna7000 11.05.08 at 12:06 am
LOTS of people gave Obama this victory, not just “stupid women”. He captured Hispanics, Jews, Catholics, blue collar, rich, and on and on…
Um, I’m pretty sure women there are women in those groups.
justnotright 11.05.08 at 12:16 am
The task that lies before us now is the daunting task of creating a criminal case against Obama for fraud relating to the campaign contributions and ACORN ties.
It’s going to be hard to pursue this when nobody in the media is interested in reporting it and making it a news story, however.
justnotright 11.05.08 at 12:16 am
The task that lies before us now is the daunting task of creating a criminal case against Obama for fraud relating to the campaign contributions and ACORN ties.
It’s going to be hard to pursue this when nobody in the media is interested in reporting it and making it a news story, however.
DancesWithPumas 11.05.08 at 12:16 am
EWard 11.05.08 at 12:04 am
We have elected the first Mafia President! Margenau is right, stupid women gave BO this victory.
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g dumbya bush, the republcian party, media, the dnc/rbc violations of their own rules, voter fraud, contribution fraud, caucus fraud, etc., gave odropdeadalready the presidency. I know it’s easy to blame women, I mean, hey, why not, women get blamed for all the ills of the world. Have at it. Enjoy.
“Women are the ‘niggers’ of the world”– yoko ono
Asian4Hillary 11.05.08 at 12:16 am
Lets be honest here PUMAS, you CANNOT reform the Democratic Party when a lot of PUMAS ENABLE them by voting them back into office. Don’t kid yourself! What some PUMAS had done is keep them there in power while they plan to reform the Democratic Party.
Election is OVER! Take another shot in 2010. This serves as a LESSON FOR ALL PUMAS. You’ve learned the HARD WAY, what a hard lesson to learn. Learn to think ahead like a chess player, always 5 moves ahead of your opponent.
halligan 11.05.08 at 12:16 am
Brooklyn, I wish I had your faith. I read your words, but I have very little faith in the younger generation to even care to work for the good of the whole. They are the generation of movies, video games and the like. They are the “ME” generation, kick the parents out in the cold, and show disrespect and inconsideration for anyone above 40. They don’t open doors, say please and thank you, use language that is something other than gutter language, and are satisfied with want it now (goodness, can’t live without an IKEA). How about good old Sears and Penney’s stuff.
BrianH 11.05.08 at 12:16 am
mimi1020 11.04.08 at 11:13 pm
BTW, I THINK OUR NEXT GOAL SHOULD BE TO FORCE THE SUPREME COURT TO MANDATE OBAMBI TO SHOW HIS COLB. //
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The Certificate of Live Birth is not the authoritative document; it is issued as a convenience at a much later date on request. The real document is the Vault Copy of the Birth Certificate, signed in ink by the delivering doctor, etc.
The “COLB” copies that have been displayed and discussed on the web are computer printouts, and laser and ink-jet printers didn’t exist in 1961. Some large computers had dot-matrix printers, but that’s about it.
The original would be filled out by typewriter and by hand.
HiHat 11.05.08 at 12:17 am
Thus Spoke the Empty Suit…
Yawn.
NewOrleansPuma 11.05.08 at 12:28 am
Seattlegirl: Hillary Clinton will be challenged by a well funded (same sources that funded Obama) Democrat.
The goal since 2004 has been to remove any remanent of influence of Hillary and Clinton in the new usurped Socialist Democratic Party and they are not finished with her. Count on that. It will happen.
feeling_invisible 11.05.08 at 12:28 am
Justnotright-great thought but how do we mobilize?
GoPumaGo 11.05.08 at 12:30 am
http://israelinsider.ning.com/profiles/blogs/is-obama-the-secret-son-of?id=2018399%3ABlogPost%3A12595&page=1#comments
Must read Revelation on Obama and who he really is.
this is incredible NEW INFORMATION. IT ALL FITS PERFECT.
http://israelinsider.ning.com/profiles/blogs/is-obama-the-secret-son-of?id=2018399%3ABlogPost%3A12595&page=1#comments
SKIM THE BLOGS FOR MORE INCREDIBLE PICTURES. DONT MISS THIS ONE.
zolo 11.05.08 at 12:30 am
is anyone else having a hard time trying to log in?
TerryDo 11.05.08 at 12:32 am
yes, i was locked out for awhile… do you feel like we are fading out….
DancesWithPumas 11.05.08 at 12:32 am
zolo, yeah, it’s okay now
NewOrleansPuma 11.05.08 at 12:32 am
zolo: Yes, I just got thrown off twice and went over the cottage..now let me see if this will even post.
ck 11.05.08 at 12:32 am
#976 zolo — Yes. Where is everybody?
kat in your hat 11.05.08 at 12:32 am
Need new thread, this one is too slow moving.
Murphy…don’t post anything too crazy long or emotional.
Things are too raw.
Make it a nothing thread. With just an image. Let us all chill.
TrishfromCanada 11.05.08 at 12:33 am
hillstheone
We need to work at getting each of them voted out, starting with Pelosi. Her time is this month isn’t it?
CTKEY 11.05.08 at 12:33 am
Hey HiHat…First we had calendars filled with Bushisms. Now..who know what we will have..Obama’s inspirations along with uh’s for every occasion.
1gypsy4mc 11.05.08 at 12:34 am
You always have at least two choices for every circumstance!! You can either decide to do something one way or to do it another. And then you still have another two choices (or more) – psychology!! It doesn’t mean that your first choice failed, it means that you now have at least two more choices to improve the decision!!
goofsmom 11.05.08 at 12:34 am
Yea, we are back!
NewOrleansPuma 11.05.08 at 12:34 am
Dances: I am drinking iced tea…had one glass of wine hours ago and got a headache…Love ya…ain’t this the biggest piece of you know what?
LeeinUSA 11.05.08 at 12:34 am
Found this on a conservative blog, but it applies to all of us, a path to take to get started to “outwit” the Marxist/Satan:
PLEASE PASS THIS ON TO AS MANY AS YOU CAN!
America’s Cancer Diagnosis
America’s Cancer Diagnosis
Suggestions for curing the socialist cancer growing in America.
To cure cancer you must cut off the blood supply that feeds it. For the socialist cancer that is consuming the American body, that means cutting off the tax money. This liberal socialist cancer is focused in specific parts, so let us address them.
GOVERNMENT
Federal, state, and local governments are filled with people who don’t provide value for what they consume and who for the most part vote for the party who is going to give them the most – Democrats. They also primarily serve those who buy their votes whether it’s the welfare lobby or the financial industries lobby and look upon hardworking taxpayers with disdain.
CURES:
Retire early if possible thereby denying them income tax while adding to the services they have to provide.
Push the envelope of all possible deductions you can take. You can always claim that you thought it was a legitimate deduction, after all isn’t “spreading the wealth around” charitable?
Downsize your abode thereby paying less property taxes. If your home has lost value, request a reassessment.
If there is no late payment penalty, do not pay your local water and sewer bills when they are due. It will mess up local government budgets and create more work for the liberals in those jobs not earning their keep.
Why make it easy for them by paying by mail or calling? Go to the DMV office, the Post Office, and the Tax Assessor even if it takes up your time. After all, this is war and we are the front lines. While you’re there, be difficult and create more work for them. Be difficult, mess up the brochures, ask stupid questions, and just create as much work for them as you can. On January 20th call government offices, especially any Democrats who hold House and Senate seats in your state and ask, “WHEN WILL MY CHECK ARRIVE?” If we make their lives miserable, we can get them to quit. Then when the conservative revolution comes, we’ll eliminate a lot of government jobs and put our sons and daughters in the rest.
STOP GIVING YOUR CHILDREN TO THE MILITARY. Don’t let them join or reenlist. The liberals are going to cut the military budgets and the troops will suffer. Too many at the top are closet liberals – power happy and willing to feast at the government trough while screwing over those who depend on them. Just ask Colin Powell. Let the liberals send their children to the front lines. If they want to play referee in Bosnia or Darfur, they can do it without our kids. If your children want to be patriotic, tell them to go apply for an air traffic controller position. They will have thousands of openings with all the retirees, it pays a good wage and they are hiring kids with excellent GPAs right out of high school. Take the job at age 18 and retire at 48 with a government pension. Added bonus: it’s like playing video games all day long and nobody’s shooting at you! Or tell them to become teachers so we can start taking back the public schools, the real front lines. NOTE: Please do take your children to the local gun range and get them to marksman level. Let’s create our own civilian army.
NO SALES = NO SALES TAXES Eliminate all but essential purchases. If you need to buy something, try yard sales and ebay first. You won’t be feeding the government monster and you’ll be benefiting a fellow American instead of a Chinese sweatshop. Hold your own yard sale to benefit your bottom line and not the governments. We should start a FReeper ebay list so we can buy from each other.
MEDIA
Do you need any more proof that the media is the enemy of freedom than this election?
CURES:
Accelerate the Dinosaur Media DeathWatch (THANK YOU, FReeper abb!)
Cancel all newspaper and magazine subscriptions unless they are a bonafide conservative publication. Encourage family and friends, especially the elderly, to do the same. Tell your doctors and dentists that you don’t like the reading material in their wait rooms and encourage them to switch to conservative publications.
Stop feeding the Hollywood Godzilla – JUST SAY NO TO GOING TO THE MOVIES! Most of it is crapola and their salaries need to come way down, after all Hollywood stars are making way more than $250,000 and “it’s only fair!” Empty movie theaters from coast to coast would send a clear message. Stop buying DVDs. Go to your local library and check them out instead. After all, YOUR TAX MONEY already paid for them. While we’re on the subject of libraries, use them for all of your book needs. It’s okay to peruse the books at Borders and Barnes & Noble, just quit supporting their leftest leanings with their front of the store displays on global warming and socialist rants. And you don’t pay sales tax at the library! Be sure to tell the book store people before you leave that you’re not making a purchase because you must CONSERVE YOUR CAPITAL because of their votes. If you must buy a book, try finding it at Costco. Hardworking people who support our troops should be your first shopping choice.
AUTO INDUSTRY
They can throw all the money they want at Detroit, but we can strangle it out of existence.
CURES:
Repeat after me – NO NEW VEHICLES! Unless the one you currently own can not be revived, you’ll be way ahead if you hang on to it or buy used. A new vehicle generates huge sales tax for state government – don’t go there. The AFL-CIO can’t fund the Democratic party if they haven’t any funds. Let’s put them all out of work. The older your vehicle, the less you pay in vehicle taxes and you’ll enjoy lower insurance premiums.
PUBLIC SCHOOLS
We have just witnessed what the dumbing down of America has wrought. The young people who voted will now learn the Jimmy Carter lesson – vote for someone who will tank the economy and don’t be surprised when you can’t find gainful employment.
CURES:
Home school if possible. If you can’t, keep badgering your elected officials for vouchers. Tell them you demand CHOICE! If your children are in public school, DO NOT VOLUNTEER FOR ANYTHING! Your time is your capital and the socialists are going to be taking enough from you. No class trips – any trips you go on should benefit your family not the education industry. Ditto for school pictures. The schools get a kickback. Find a local conservative small business photographer and give them your business. And by all means no money for any school fundraisers. The education industry gets enough of our money, let them prioritize and live within a budget for a change.
CHARITY INDUSTRY
We have created a growing part of our society that expect something for nothing. It needs to end now.
CURES:
STOP DONATING AND VOLUNTEERING! Tell the liberal entities that want your money – I’M A CONSERVATIVE, I’M CONSERVING! Take care of only those you know who deserve your help, family and friends. It’s time the liberals gave, they need the practice.
There are many other ways to conserve and lower your tax bill – no fast food or restaurants, grow your own food and shop the local farmers market instead. The food is safe, healthy, and tax free. Please feel free to make more suggestions – FReepers are so resourceful! Think about every purchase you make and the tax revenue it generates, change your spending habits.
Conservatives are the white blood cells of the American body. We always ride in to the rescue and make things healthy. We need to stop. Bill Clinton benefited from this and look what transpired since then. The only way the voting population is going to recognize the cancer within is if they’re facing amputation. Call all conservatives in the House and Senate and tell them you want FILIBUSTERS on all spending bills and all judicial nominees BORKED. It is about time they also started earning their keep. For all of those talking about unity right now, just remember that they never talk about everybody pitching in on the work and taxing side of the equation. When they get in the boat and row, then they can talk unity.
Grizzly 11.05.08 at 12:34 am
A disheartening loss, to say the least. And while the official tallies are not in yet, the prospects do not look good.
But while it is a loss, it is a loss of one battle. And losing one battle does not lose a war.
Look at us – we had little in common and nothing to speak of in the way of resources other than ourselves. Strange as it may seem, it was Obama that brought us to this place, and it is Obama that will serve as the binding that keeps us together.
What has been done here with such little support and so little time has been nothing short of amazing. I was looking back on that tonight; the prowls the articles, the research and the ground work. Do you realize that we uncovered more on Obama in the last few weeks than the damn GOP did during its entire 2 year campaign? We did not have access to databases, we did not have platoons of fact checkers or lawyers, we did not have a public relations firm that put out press releases. We had ourselves. On top of full time jobs, family commitments, and other obligations, we managed to dig, produce and get information out.
I was a relative latecomer here, and what Murphy and the rest of the keystones in the PUMA foundation did to organize and bring thousands, perhaps millions, of people together from all across the country is nothing short of spectacular. Just everyday people. Everyday people who saw injustice and decided to attack it head-on.
With Obama the apparent winner, that injustice is not about to go away. More likely than not, it will spread and grow. And that fact makes continuing the work here that much more important. To give up now is to abandon the primciples we all hold dear and that brought us here to a common place.
We fight for the America we know and love. We fight for the liberties and freedoms secured and preserved for us at such a high price by others before us of like minded character and tenacity. Those who were willing to fight for what they believed to be right, and were willing to do so not just for themselves but for the future.
Liberty and freedom are most precious and rare commodities in this world. Rare because while they occur naturally as inalienable rights, they can quickly cease to exist for a multitude of reasons. They are fragile, and can be easily eliminated through theft or destruction. And once they are gone, it is a virtual impossiblility to recover or rebuild them.
Yes, we lost one battle. But this war to preserve our liberties is far from over. I will stand and fight, alone of necessary. This country has provided much to my family and myself, and I have a moral obligation to preserve what so many have taken for granted. I will not let these precious freedoms slip away. It will not happen on my watch.
I believe that most here are of like mind, and share that tenacity to prevent our heritage from being stolen from us and out children. This fight is not over – it is just beginning. And we need to continue what has been started here. As a united group, we can accomplish much. E. pluribus unum – out of many, one.
Tomorrow is another day.
zolo 11.05.08 at 12:35 am
is it over? It is only 9:34pm here… ; (
hillstheone 11.05.08 at 12:35 am
NewOrleansPUMA,
I got knocked off the site for a loong time, it’s overloaded.
I am going to log off before that happens again, but to answer your question, yes! That’s the only difference, that little dab of coconut.
Coconut for a political junkie nut, ha,ha!
BillieJo 11.05.08 at 12:35 am
Hi PUMAs, is everyone falling apart and tearing women down again?
Lady Like 11.05.08 at 12:35 am
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You called???? I am an evil person right now. I chased my daughter out of the room…so I could cry alone. This is all a BAD REAM.
We warned everyone the best we could Hannity did his best. We are not to blame when the SH-t hits the fan.
The TROJAN HORSE CONCEPT is PERFECT ANALOGY OF WHAT IS TO HAPPEN!
mountainsong 11.05.08 at 12:35 am
Lara 08 FO.
justnotright 11.05.08 at 12:35 am
974 NewOrleansPuma
I’m afraid you’re right. Hillary is going to get “cleansed” from the party. She has outlived her usefulness for the DNC. Obama did not reach out to her up until now, why would he now?
The other possibility is that she kisses his ring and pledges total subserviance and he lets her back in the party’s graces, but that makes me want to hurl just thinking about it.
bythelake 11.05.08 at 12:35 am
I ended up watching McCain speak, snoozed a moment then “the one” was on. OMG, does Oprah want to sleep with him? What a blubbering pathetic show she put on. And Jesse Jackson, tears? Did he get tingles too?
Oh please, I still ain’t drinking the koolaid and Obama will never be my president nor will that long legged disconnected, for the first time i am proud of my country poor excuse of a woman ever be a first lady to me.
Margenau 11.05.08 at 12:36 am
Dances, I did not say “stupid” women. But at some point we have to take personal responsibility. This country has become absurdly “post-feminist.”
MKfromLA 11.05.08 at 12:36 am
#976 zolo
Yes i have been trying to post a comment for 20 minutes Here is what I wanted to share -
Republicans exhalted when GWBush stole the election in 2000. Tonight it is the Democrats who have betrayed America.
The only way to recover the great gift we were given is for Democrats & Republicans stop fighting each other, and to start fighting the evil in both parties. This is what PUMAs have done. I am proud of us.
I believe that we are seeing the last great test of America’s soul.
If there is no third party that arises, I am not sure where I will go.
Oneof18million cracks... 11.05.08 at 12:36 am
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hillstheone 11.05.08 at 12:03 am
Calling all attorneys & electorates
zolo,
Did you hear Berg say he’s open to help from other attorneys and from electorates? He says the defendants have until Dec 1st to respond.
He says keep your chin up everybody, “because the truth shall prevail.”
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I am so done with Berg.
Hispanic4Hillary 11.05.08 at 12:36 am
Obama…te odio y te maldigo el dia en que naciste. que te lleve la muerte…
BillieJo 11.05.08 at 12:37 am
Hillary has no chance of being President. That is a huge loss for me.
Lady Like 11.05.08 at 12:37 am
Murphy I hope this site will remain because there is REFORM needed in politics. I hope we will not be censored by the new administration??????
If we dissolve…no place for like-minded individuals to convene. Hillary44 sounds like hey will keep their site going.
ontherocks 11.05.08 at 12:38 am
Grizzly 11.05.08 at 12:34 am
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OMG, I thought I was done crying for tonight.
Nicely put.
TerryDo 11.05.08 at 12:38 am
#961 Anna7000 11.05.08 at 12:15 am
You are right Anna7000, we are absolutely in a damn state of unbelievable denial. That should take at least a week to absorb..
notmypresident 11.05.08 at 12:38 am
I’ve never posted here before. I’ve been dreading this day for months, and I’m glad it’s finally over. Now I can stop obsessing about Hillary and McCain and Palin and get back to concentrating on some of the things I can actually control, or at least manage.
This, for what it’s worth, is my prediction. The media loves a big story. The election of this nation’s first African American president is a really big story, and the media’s been gleefully writing it for months. But with Obama’s big celebration tonight, the story’s done. Now we’ll have a few days of sympathy for McCain, the war hero, maverick and “country first” guy. The media loved him before Obama came along, and now they’ll love him again. But once they’ve shed a couple of day’s worth of crocodile tears for him, they’ll turn their attention to the thug they put in the White House. Since they did more than their part to help him win, they no longer have to worry about being accused of racism, and all the questionable friendships and thievery they glossed over or ignored during the campaign will come out. I’m not sure what that will accomplish except to cause a lot of “buyer’s remorse” among the electorate. But I’ll bet that’s what will happen.
Hugs to all of you hard-working PUMAs. I wish we’d had a big victory to celebrate tonight. I wish that more for our country and for my grandchildren than I do for us. Like so many of you, I’m so sad…
NewOrleansPuma 11.05.08 at 12:38 am
#971halligan: that was preObama…they will be his new slaves.. these little spoiled wired up and all over ones…they will seek for bread and they will find none before they leave this earth…They will writhe with want becaue even that which is basic will not be as easy to come by using their expectations as a measure of expecttation..the rest of us will do what we need to do …and not forget what they never knew..
Ario 11.05.08 at 12:39 am
mountain….what is going on?????
Flasunshiner 11.05.08 at 12:39 am
Obama will not be the president for very long.
SouthJerseyPUMA 11.05.08 at 12:39 am
I think I am going to look at the Libertarians as they are the ones who believe in our Constitution… if I can not vote for them, I will vote “R”… I will never agin vote democrat…
zolo 11.05.08 at 12:39 am
we can’t give up, never.
NewOrleansPuma 11.05.08 at 12:40 am
BillieJoe…As Ihave said …she will struggle to keep her Senate seat, because they are not finished with her yet..getting rid of her influence in the party…new usurped Socialist Democratic Party or not
bmw60 11.05.08 at 12:41 am
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BrooklynNY 11.05.08 at 12:08 am
PUMAs. We must stick together. No matter how disheartened and depressed we are now, we must stick together and make something good come of this evil. We fought as good a fight as we could have fought…..
In the days ahead we have to really do some soul-searching. We have to literally continue to put “country first.” Forget all those arbitrary divisions – Republican/Democrat, etc. We have to continue working on, uniting with others who care about their country first and bring American back to the ideals and values it stands for. I see this election as the culmination of a descent we’ve been on, culturally, spiritually, etc. for a long time now. We’ve lost our way and this election is forcing us to confront what we’ve lost by showing us how low we’ve gone. We’ve hit bottom. Now it’s time to work on bringing ourselves and our country back up.
It will not be easy and we cannot let ourselves be discouraged. We have to convert our rage and our disappointment to concerted, long-range patient action.
We must allow something good to come from this bad.
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Thank You Brooklyn…. thank you for this encouragement… you better believe that this woman will be thinking of this… printing it out and reading it each day…. tears over, now let’s remember our “country first” and start changing things… I don’t think that McCain has forgotten country first……. he had 48 million people vote for him that thought “country first”… let’s find those people and get them on board with us!!!
Susie1945 11.05.08 at 12:41 am
Well Pumas – I’m pulling my money out of my ira tomorrow – I am calling Hillary’s campaign office and demanding my money back from her
I am forever an independent and as soon as I can I’m leaving this country –
I sure would like to know where the hell the 4 million PUMAs are – has this whole damn thing been a fantasy and we all fell for it – is it real – what the hell did we work our butts off for the last 5 months for? I want some answers because I feel betrayed in a big way……………………….
zolo 11.05.08 at 12:41 am
should we go to the cottage?
1gypsy4mc 11.05.08 at 12:41 am
Flasunshiner What do you “see”?
Heneri 11.05.08 at 12:42 am
Fellow Pumas, we have a lot of work to do.
1. Organize a new centrist party to oppose the new socialist party. We have the beginnings. We have the network. We have all the puma bloggers on our side.
2. Keep the Obama effects to a minimum by supporting anyone who opposes his initatives.
3. Keep in mind that there will be at least a year for him to set up his operation, and then a year after that, a new congress will be elected replacing the entire house and 1/3 of the senate. By that time we need candidates! This should be our first priority. In that election Hillary will be up for re-election.
4. We need to pull as many disenchanted members of the moderates in both parties into our group. They have the money, we have the talent. We need candidates. Those candidates should be people like Joe the Plumber and every puma on the planet.
Any ideas as to where to start?
Susie1945 11.05.08 at 12:42 am
Also – as far as I am concerned – Hillary Clinton can go straight to hell too – I am so done with her…………….
kat in your hat 11.05.08 at 12:42 am
Margenau, you didn’t say stupid women. Fine, someone said you said it. I don’t know, I didn’t read up.
How about this. I<— will say it. 52% woman population in the USA.
Hell FUCKIN yes, they are stupid.
There, see. If I get in trouble for saying it. I don’t care. They are stupid. Obviously. Don’t tread on me about this.
TrishfromCanada 11.05.08 at 12:42 am
Oneof18million cracks…
I was done with berg from Day 1, the man is a quack.
DancesWithPumas 11.05.08 at 12:42 am
BillieJo…of course they are.
Noone else voted or donated or had anything to do with osomeonepleasekillthatfucker’s win. Just women. It’s all the fault of women.
NewOrleansPuma 11.05.08 at 12:43 am
hillstheone: Well I am glad you created a new Hurricane tonight and Ihope you call it Tropical Tradewinds..Lol hillsthe one…see you soon, I hope.
phatphat 11.05.08 at 12:43 am
MKfromLa said: The only way to recover the great gift we were given is for Democrats & Republicans stop fighting each other, and to start fighting the evil in both parties. This is what PUMAs have done. I am proud of us.
I believe that we are seeing the last great test of America’s soul.
If there is no third party that arises, I am not sure where I will go.
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I think this is a good point. I think that PUMA at this point is applicable to both EX-democrats and EX-republicans. We need to come together to oppose this incoming administration of anti-Americanism.
justnotright 11.05.08 at 12:43 am
988 Grizzly
Intellectually I accept what you’re saying, but in my gut I feel like this is worse than a simple lost election, because of who we are dealing with.
Obama is steeped in the ideology of governmental taking control over people’s lives. It’s pretty extreme. The DNC is in his pocket now. He is free to politically experiment with the country and there is every reason to believe he will do just that. He has no humility. He believes he knows everything.
We’re talking about a mentally unhinged person that felt the need to flip the middle finger to both his opponants during speeches this year. This is beyond the pale.
I don’t know if we’re ready for what comes next.
KarenWI 11.05.08 at 12:43 am
It’s the current so-called (faux) democrat group in congress that created the financial problem with freddie and fannie…. so America just rewarded them by giving them MORE of their own in there, and to put the cherry on top they added their guy Obama. Someone who is on the side of OUR ENEMIES and doesn’t love America; someone who has never held any job for long except “community organizing” (which, we find out, was ACORN). Guys, I don’t know if you believe this or not. I’m not sure if I do myself or not. However, his full 3 word name comes to 18 letters – 6 + 6 + 6. 666. The Bible talks about the anti-christ being so persuasive that he could decieve just about everybody; that people will be saying “peace peace” and destruction will come on them suddenly without warning during this time of the anti-christ. All I know is this- watch Israel now. I fully expect Israel to launch an attack on Iran now that BO has won; and that will mean the U.N. will declare war in Israel, WWWIII (nuclear) where America is on the side of the Islamic countries and against Israel. Biden knew, and he tried to tell us, much as I don’t like him. All of this was predicted in the Bible. If Israel does what I expect, then things are going to start happening VERY quickly…. things the Bible predicted for “the last days”… watch Israel now. Israel is the key. If Israel does nothing in the next 6 months, sigh a breath of relief-I was wrong. If Israel does attack, then remember my words… that Obama will be the last U.S. President.
Oneof18million cracks... 11.05.08 at 12:43 am
Asian4Hillary 11.05.08 at 12:16 am
Lets be honest here PUMAS, you CANNOT reform the Democratic Party when a lot of PUMAS ENABLE them by voting them back into office. Don’t kid yourself! What some PUMAS had done is keep them there in power while they plan to reform the Democratic Party.
Election is OVER! Take another shot in 2010. This serves as a LESSON FOR ALL PUMAS. You’ve learned the HARD WAY, what a hard lesson to learn. Learn to think ahead like a chess player, always 5 moves ahead of your opponent.
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Why take such a superior attitude? You keep blaming PUMAs as if you know how we all voted. I think its unfair to assume you know how we voted. I did not vote down ticket democrat.
DancesWithPumas 11.05.08 at 12:43 am
Lady Like
No, I was hugging you in response to your comment.
exDemMcvoter 11.05.08 at 12:45 am
#782 NoHillNoVote…Read that post all!! She’s got the exact right idea about what needs to be done!
Basically, it will result in a massive education for all Americans.
A major hurdle and obstacle to what NoHill suggests is the media. Will they report?
A first step is to make sure that the Dems can’t get rid of Talk Radio. It Is On Their Hit List.
And there are way way too many Dems in Congress now.
The Bill to get rid of Talk Radio must not pass. If it does, we lose our voice and NoHill’s ideas can’t move around the country effectively enough.
BillieJo 11.05.08 at 12:45 am
Seattlegirl 11.05.08 at 12:15 am
It will be interesting to see what Hillary does now. I have always wondered if she was threatened or bribed to sit down and shut up. If she stays just another Senator we will know she was threatened.
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She has nothing to do but be a senator, that’s all the DNC will allow. She, Bill and McCain are too good for the DNC. Fuck the Democratic Party and the donkey they all rode in on this year.
BrooklynNY 11.05.08 at 12:45 am
halligan 11.05.08 at 12:16 am
Halligan, remember this election has been based on fraud, voter manipulation, deception. At least half the country DIDN’T buy into the hype, the lies, the bullshit. Not all young people fit the description you outlined (though of course many do, but not all!). We cannot allow ourselves to be manipulated into a state of hopelessness and a feeling of inevitable futility. Remember most people took the rhetoric at face value. They didn’t look beneath the surface. They picked this fraud because they BELIEVED the lofty rhetoric. What are they going to feel when they are betrayed? When all these empty promises fail to materialize? It is just a matter of time. We’ve got to maintain our rational minds and we’re got to be ready to seize the moment when the reality of the enormity of the betrayal begins to set in for all those who believed this fraud is going to establish an Edenic utopia on earth.
The world has just turned on its axis. The old politics is dead. The Democratic Party no longer exists. Labels mean nothing. We need to rethink everything we’ve always believed about the world, about America. We can’t let ourselves be trapped into believing the old way is the current way. We must look past the surface and make alliances with individuals who share our vision of what America and freedom means. The past is gone. This is a new world. We must adapt and maintain allegiance to our values, period. And have a laser focus to see those values in their raw form, not as phony attachments to entities that remain in name only, i.e. the Democratic Party, etc.
In the process it wouldn’t hurt to read up and study how to deprogram people because what Obama and his cohorts have done is no different than what any cult does to brainwash its followers. These young people have been brainwashed and along with them so have many of their parents and the other adults. When anyone tells you to suspend your disbelief, your rational, questioning faculties and just follow them, a la Joe Biden and Obama tonight, something is VERY wrong. Red flags are waving frantically in our faces. That is the behavior of blind, lost sheep being led to their slaughter….
America has always been a country full of ideals and optimism. It’s hard to see evil in others when you don’t possess that kind of evil. That’s why I believe people in this country can’t see what’s right in front of them. It’s one of our greatest strengths but at the same time one of our greatest weaknesses.
Time to forge ahead, with EYES WIDE OPEN.
alohapuma 11.05.08 at 12:46 am
Grizzly, Brilliant as usual. Thank you! Please repost it tomorrow. We all need to read it and re-read it.
I’m going out on a limb here, but I doubt Obama will have much of a honeymoon. You can not be that corrupt without a backlash. I predict he will leave in disgrace, perhaps even before the term.
I think we will all get to know each other better and have more defined roles as this goes along.
Ario 11.05.08 at 12:46 am
karen
but why would biden accept the vp nominee? i mean i have always had these type of concerns but never put a voice to em for fear of sounding crazy
Oneof18million cracks... 11.05.08 at 12:47 am
Stupid women and PUMAS voting down ticket are being blamed.
Wow! Murphy where ever you are you need to end this thread.
Its amazing how ignorant people can be in a time of disappointment. Or are they always that ignorant?
Heneri 11.05.08 at 12:47 am
Suzie1945:
We worked hard enough to keep Obama’s lead down to less than 2%. When we started, he was more than 15 points behind in most polls.
Don’t leave. We need every hand on the wheel. We need to continue to try to save the world. This is very important. All is no lost. We lost this battle, but we MUST not lose the war. He is a bad, bad, bad man. We all know this. But there are millions of us out here working to put blocks in his way. We are Americans, and as such, we don’t bow to defeat. The principles this nation were founded upon are still valid. We just have to stand up for them and claim the right to use them no matter what.
TrishfromCanada 11.05.08 at 12:47 am
I really really really dislike losing
mountainsong 11.05.08 at 12:47 am
halligan You’ve noticed that too, huh?
justnotright 11.05.08 at 12:48 am
1021 KarenWI
I lived for 10 years in Israel and I agree with your basic premise. Israel will have to attack now. There is a question whether the current Israeli caretaker government has the will to carry this out while Bush is still in office. Any way you slice it, we are headed into some scary times ahead.
BillieJo 11.05.08 at 12:48 am
Oneof18million cracks… 11.05.08 at 12:43 am
Asian4Hillary 11.05.08 at 12:16 am
Lets be honest here PUMAS, you CANNOT reform the Democratic Party when a lot of PUMAS ENABLE them by voting them back into office.
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What do you mean PUMAs voted them back into office? Are you talking down ticket Dems?
lilibet 11.05.08 at 12:48 am
DANCES:
I thought you were going to Belize. I looked it up after you said that and it looks like a little paradise with a low cost of living!!!
RememberNovember 11.05.08 at 12:49 am
For those worrying about Murphy I got the impression from the radio show that she was with Sherri and Harriet in New York – it was difficult to hear because there was a lot of background noise – sounded like an election party.
gojoyknocks 11.05.08 at 12:49 am
Is it possible that we aren’t the good guys?
BillieJo 11.05.08 at 12:49 am
Oneof18million cracks… 11.05.08 at 12:47 am
Stupid women and PUMAS voting down ticket are being blamed.
Wow! Murphy where ever you are you need to end this thread.
Its amazing how ignorant people can be in a time of disappointment. Or are they always that ignorant?
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Is this what you are staying??????????????????????????????????????????
Margenau 11.05.08 at 12:50 am
Drama in this thread is now adding to the emotional drainage of recent events, so I am signing off.
Thank you all for your company this evening.
BrooklynNY 11.05.08 at 12:50 am
#1014 Heneri 11.05.08 at 12:42 am
Excellent ideas, Heneri!
DancesWithPumas 11.05.08 at 12:50 am
NewOrleansPuma 11.05.08 at 12:34 am
Dances: I am drinking iced tea…had one glass of wine hours ago and got a headache…Love ya…ain’t this the biggest piece of you know what?
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I don’t have the words … My thoughts are completely toxic.
Oneof18million cracks... 11.05.08 at 12:51 am
TrishfromCanada 11.05.08 at 12:42 am
Oneof18million cracks…
I was done with berg from Day 1, the man is a quack.
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ROFLMAO and throw Andy Martin in there with Berg.
NewOrleansPuma 11.05.08 at 12:51 am
EWard made the commentabout stupid women and I confronted Eward with the fact that men and women were seduced by the liar, Ojing. I told EWard to stop it. So..there you are. i would say a lot of stupid men and stupid women did this…and of course corruption and lies..emanating from the Void who is and ever shall be Obongo.
RememberNovember 11.05.08 at 12:51 am
I thought we were all going to Belize. Dances voted the destination for all of us!
feeling_invisible 11.05.08 at 12:52 am
gojoyknocks? WTF?
LeeinUSA 11.05.08 at 12:52 am
Hispanic4Hillary 11.05.08 at 12:36 am
Obama…te odio y te maldigo el dia en que naciste. que te lleve la muerte…
*************************************************************Agree with you totally!
zolo 11.05.08 at 12:52 am
so do you think Berg is just in it for the money?
NewOrleansPuma 11.05.08 at 12:52 am
Dances: I am numb, truly, and actually numb…so I understand somewhat what you say here..re toxic …
justnotright 11.05.08 at 12:52 am
1027 alohapuma
The media is so complicit in Obama’s “election,” it’s hard to imagine Obama’s lapdogs turning on him. One can pray.
MKfromLA 11.05.08 at 12:53 am
#920 DWP.
amen.
KarenWI 11.05.08 at 12:53 am
Ario- why would Biden accept the Veep? Simple, because he’s in with them (the dem leadership that’s so whacky now). He told us that Obama would be “tested by an international crisis within the first 6 months” and that the decision Obama made would be one we wouldn’t agree with at first. He was being honest. I think he knew very well what was going to happen; however, I think he – like so much of the current dem leadership- is NOT on the side of Israel, but seem to think that Israel’s enemy is our friend (which is not true- they are OUR enemy too). That being said, he didn’t see anything “bad” about this “test” nor the choice BO would make that “we” wouldn’t agree with- at first. Besides, he’s playing his cards right to be president.. remember, that’s what he wanted too.
SouthJerseyPUMA 11.05.08 at 12:53 am
((((((DWP)))))))
#1018 you have me laughing at that “name” while i cry my eyes out…
*i still say that votes were corrupted across this nation~ behind the scenes… i cant believe nothing mattered!!! so are we here the only PUMA’s that come here that exist??? I love you all but I cant help but feel like we are being laughed at!! We had no effect at all from what I see in this election! I know I help my promise and voted against the DNC and all of its corruption! Where were the rest of them????? @#$%^&%$%^!!!!!!!!!!!!
DancesWithPumas 11.05.08 at 12:54 am
lilibet 11.05.08 at 12:48 am
DANCES:I thought you were going to Belize. I looked it up after you said that and it looks like a little paradise with a low cost of living!!!
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Five years before I can retire (if)…
I hate this country. Propagandizing their way through our lives… and, we, like morons, have bought into it lock stock and barrel.
ontherocks 11.05.08 at 12:54 am
Asian,
I get what you are saying, I think. We can’t fix the problem or get our voices out there, if the dems that created this mess are still in office. I agree with you on that.
Ario 11.05.08 at 12:54 am
listen folks we are not to blame!!!!
as pissed off as i am the last thing we need is self loathing doubt! that racist fraud used a strong arm racist tactics to basically bully the dnc onto his wagon…..and that silver wicked tongue turned many people towards him…hell there is a god damn tape sitting in the la times that lord knows whats on it!
kat in your hat 11.05.08 at 12:54 am
Margenau good night.
and gimme a break
TrishfromCanada 11.05.08 at 12:54 am
KarenWI 11.05.08 at 12:43 am
It’s the current so-called (faux) democrat group in congress that created the financial problem with freddie and fannie…. so America just rewarded them by giving them MORE of their own in there,
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I don’t think America rewarded anyone, I believe Bo and his flock rewarded themselves through voter fraud. I would also guess most Americans are unaware of the degree of fraud that presumably took place. It would be unfair to blame americans as the media very rarely told the truth about golden boy and his minions.
1gypsy4mc 11.05.08 at 12:54 am
Margenau We need you – so make sure you come back.
feeling_invisible 11.05.08 at 12:54 am
Brooklyn-my sentiments exactly. I am one young person who refused the Kool Aid. In this case the Kook aid.
feebie 11.05.08 at 12:55 am
Asian4Hillary – Im voting for you!!!
freddiebrown 11.05.08 at 12:55 am
I am so PROUD of everyone here. So proud.
Look at the mirror, we did all we could.
We need to grieve a little and move on.
Hold our chin up high.
The pain may seem unbearable now
but we must go on…
Nijma 11.05.08 at 12:55 am
#830
Anna7000 says:
This is the number to call if you want a refund from Hillary…at which time, feel free to give them an earful. I know I did!
Really.
Well, I for one am proud of contributing to Hillary’s campaign. It wasn’t easy for me to afford, but she is welcome to every penny. She is also welcome to the phone banking, the demonstrating, and the sore arthritic knees from going up and down all those front steps doing doors.
I only hope that in 2012 I am in better shape and can do more for her.
If the rest of you want to be petty and start demanding refunds, go right ahead. Maybe your brand new president will be all the representation you need–or deserve.
Ario 11.05.08 at 12:55 am
i doubt anybody here detests that bastard as much as i do!
Heneri 11.05.08 at 12:56 am
We need to have faith in the system. We have a federal prosecutor looking into Obama. We have several lawsuits challenging his eligibility to even be president. These are two of the things that might make a difference. He may never even be sworn in.
Then we have a house and senate who must approve everything he does. Even if the dems are in charge, there are still those in the legislative branch who will not rubber stamp everything he comes up with.
Then there is the supreme court. In times of dire need, they can make some decent decisions. They have risen to many occasions with appropriate decisions that changed the whole face of the country.
Folks, this is still America. We are still free. We still have a bill of rights. We still have ourselves. Our task of staying a free democracy has received a mighty blow, but if we all are diligent, we will survive.
mountainsong 11.05.08 at 12:56 am
KarenWI I agree completely!!! Watch Israel. Today 20 rockets were fired on Israel from GAZA. Israel discovered an underground tunnel from Gaza that Hama planned to use to kidnap Israeli soldiers. Israel retaliated with airstrikes.
The onlt thing I might take exception with is whether the USA will back the UN or Israel.
We know BO is anti-Israel, but Israel till has powerfulinfluence here in the US.
I might be wrong with you, but my bet is Israel will launch a limited nuclear strike on Iran~~~~and the final battle of armageddon will be on.
It’s no coincidence that the Mayan, Navajo and Hopi calendars and prohecies of many other culture all predict the end of life as we know it on Dec 21, 2012.
Oneof18million cracks... 11.05.08 at 12:56 am
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BillieJo 11.05.08 at 12:48 am
Oneof18million cracks… 11.05.08 at 12:43 am
Asian4Hillary 11.05.08 at 12:16 am
Lets be honest here PUMAS, you CANNOT reform the Democratic Party when a lot of PUMAS ENABLE them by voting them back into office.
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What do you mean PUMAs voted them back into office? Are you talking down ticket Dems?
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BillieJo, I do not agree with Asian4Hillary stating it was PUMAs who voted down ticket democrats who are to blame. I also do not agree with the post who said it was stupid women to blame.
justnotright 11.05.08 at 12:57 am
1037 gojoyknocks
I was waiting for that post.
Even though the aftermath of our own personal Jonestown is all around us, a lot of PUMAs are going to go ahead and drink the kool aid in the next few days and come to the conclusion that our instincts were wrong all these months and join the Obama regime.
I am not one of those people.
Just because we were defeated does not mean our cause was not just. It was a just cause. We were not wrong. History will prove this.
feeling_invisible 11.05.08 at 12:57 am
Um Ario u have tough competition here in that department
freddiebrown 11.05.08 at 12:57 am
Just where is that trouble maker Osaka Puma. Disappeared several days ago.
Ario 11.05.08 at 12:57 am
nijma
sorry but its like this…hillary should have burned the house down…hell she is filthy rich and wouldnt have lost her senate seat! hello!!! but no…instead bow down to that bastard! i dont think so!
feebie 11.05.08 at 12:57 am
And hell followed with him….
oy!
I will continue to be no slave to any party. I vote what and who is best for America and to preserve our constitution from here on out. I dont give a hoot if you are from the Purple party.
mountainsong 11.05.08 at 12:57 am
Heneri Free? Here? Have you not heard~~~”The best way to enslave a man is to convince him he is free” ???
PouncingPuma 11.05.08 at 12:57 am
America as we know it is now in the process of ending. Oh not tomorrow and not even in January. At first it will be insidious and then as evil infiltrates all aspects of government it will become overt and by that time our rights will have been diminished to the extent that we will have become powerless to act in any effective way.
God help us all.
Hillgirl 11.05.08 at 12:58 am
#825 Margeneau–Understood. IMHO we have to wait out the honeymoon and the lovefest, and, then, if we survive the impending international crisis that OBiden predicted, we will see how this all unfolds. I am one who believes that people show their true colors over time. The one positive here, is that Obama will now be the one under scrutiny. He won’t be able to blame his opponent for all of his shortcomings. So, yes, I am willing to wait and see. What I cannot forgive is the way that he got here–that has always been my primary objection to this man–his campaign tactics and the vicious supporters that surrounded him. I have never seen anything like that in my entire life. Anyway, I am rambling, time for bed. Goodnight sweet PUMAs. Tomorrow is a new day.
DancesWithPumas 11.05.08 at 12:58 am
RememberNovember 11.05.08 at 12:51 am
I thought we were all going to Belize. Dances voted the destination for all of us!
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LOL! I forgot about that!! Yes, I filled out all the ballots. I’m an ACORN intern.
KarenWI 11.05.08 at 12:58 am
What happened to that link we were reading that said that all we needed was a certain number of puma’s voting in 11 states and that would do it? Didn’t we get that number? ….or did ACORN have so many fraudulent votes that it just drowned out all the PUMA’s????
name-lost 11.05.08 at 12:58 am
Nijma-
Hillary can’t run in 2012.
TerryDo 11.05.08 at 12:59 am
#987 LeeinUSA 11.05.08 at 12:34 am
Found this on a conservative blog, but it applies to all of us, a path to take to get started to “outwit” the Marxist/Satan:
PLEASE PASS THIS ON TO AS MANY AS YOU CAN!
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LeeinUSA I found your article so amusing, I had to same it to my personal Puma Files that I have accumulated over the past months. Thank you for sharing and I will email it also.
I especially found this part very funny!…
….”On January 20th call government offices, especially any Democrats who hold House and Senate seats in your state and ask, “WHEN WILL MY CHECK ARRIVE?”
If we make their lives miserable, we can get them to quit. Then when the conservative revolution comes, we’ll eliminate a lot of government jobs and put our sons and daughters in the rest.”
feeling_invisible 11.05.08 at 12:59 am
Mountainsong your post scares me. I suffer from depression so right now I am all messed up to begin with
justnotright 11.05.08 at 12:59 am
1063 mountainsong
You are right that Obama’s selection will embolden Israel’s enemies and bring the entire Middle East closer to all-out war.
Thanks Obama, I’ll remember that when my reserve IDF unit is called into battle.
BillieJo 11.05.08 at 12:59 am
(((((SouthJersey))))
PUMAs were laughed at before, nothing has changed. They blocked the story of the caucus fraud, so they are only laughing at their own corruption. Why did PUMAs not make it happen? Maybe because of the corruption in ACORN, the same way we couldn’t stop the travesty in the Convention Roll Call. Corrupt Democrats, kool-aid drinking believers.
It was too big for PUMAs to smash.
Nijma 11.05.08 at 12:59 am
#999
Hispanic4Hillary que te lleve la muerte
Wishing death on Obama is very bad luck; everything you wish on someone else come back to you threefold.
mountainsong 11.05.08 at 12:59 am
Oneof18million cracks… ‘Women’ was mentioned but nowhere did anyone say “stupid” women. That’s not true, so don’t go starting crap.
justnotright 11.05.08 at 1:00 am
1077 BillieJo
It was too big for PUMAs to smash.
We came so close. The polls WERE wrong, just not wrong enough.
ck 11.05.08 at 1:00 am
#1060 nijma — Many people want a refund of their Hillary contributions, not because they support BO or any Dems, but because they feel Hillary betrayed them by campaigning so strongly for BO after he perpetrated the most sexist/misogynistic/male supremacist campaign they’d ever seen. I know, because I’m one of those who has requested a refund. To me, as a woman who has experienced physical and sexual assault, for Hillary to campaign for BO and ask her former supporters to support him, was like asking an abused/battered woman to return to an abusive/battering spouse for more of the same treatment.
Alice Rodham Puma 11.05.08 at 1:00 am
Very proud of all of you PUMAs and I agree it was and is a just cause.
Goodnight for now, but regroup and stay together friends!
Simonson 11.05.08 at 1:00 am
We aren’t the good guys.
kat in your hat 11.05.08 at 1:01 am
HEY OBOTS:
NOW we get to see if we were right. The honeymoon period will be short. Let’s see if we need to gird our loins. Let’s see if you can stop being brainwashed by the media and see. Hmm…
I predict the first year will be laddida…then…oh oh oh, THEN….shitfuckdamn.
lol. I see it all. These people only think he is a regular dem.
You dolts.
I was raised by liberals. I was a liberal but grew more centrist over time. I know the difference between a democrat and a far left extremist. Oh the hype. Oh oh.
In the very far back of my mind. Some bad part of me wanted to prove that I was right. Now I’ll have years of vindication. Horrendous. Don’t. mess. with. me.
KarenWI 11.05.08 at 1:01 am
Hillgirl, one problem here. I had read a page a couple weeks ago explaining how Obama had everything all set up to get a 2nd 4 years (IF we survive the holocaust he’s going to create with Israel) by just blaming everything on the past administration. After all, he’s taking over during a recession. It’s certainly not HIS tax increases or HIS trade agreements, or HIS capital gains tax that created any economic problem, right?
zolo 11.05.08 at 1:01 am
I feel the same sort of way I did when Nixon got in. But one can only run so far from their own corruption before the scales balance themselves. I remember watching Nixon resign on TV and knew it was all worth waiting for.
But in the mean time, we will need to regroup and organize. There are a lot of areas to band together to fight sexism. Because that is what we have been fighting all along. Sexism. That can be our common goal as a group effort. I mean, just in the idea of education and I am not talking school. I saw sexism raise its ugly head from most males around my liberal circles. And they had no clue. Many men and women see females really as second class citizens. We must confront this head on.
McCain-PalinGuy 11.05.08 at 1:01 am
Well, Anna7000,
I don’t know if you’ve gone to bed, but I just wanted to say that I’m sorry I differed with you last night. I really thought Americans were not this lost. Oh, well.
I do want to thank you PUMAs for putting up with me for the past few days. I’m really more of a Sarah Palin fan than McCain supporter. (I found this site from TeamSarah.) Look at it this way, the left-wing secular fundamentalist left is going to have to defend this Chicago thug for the next four years. When, and I do mean WHEN the bombs drop from Iran, let’s hope they hit the White House first, so fewer people will die.
And I do hope that your granddaughers are not going to be wearing veils and walking ten feet behind their husband.
Hang in there. I’ll never criticize or demonize an HRC supporter ever again.
Palin/Jindal 2012 (and yes, she’s going to be an attractive candidate then after four years of the Chicago gangster.)
Flasunshiner 11.05.08 at 1:01 am
1gypsy4mc 1013
I see that barry will not be able to stay in office. He was born in Kenya. It will be a case of accelerated Karma, Instant Karma. What you do to others will come right back, and I for one can’t wait. Besides barry has made a lot of enemies.
mountainsong 11.05.08 at 1:01 am
justnotright I am neither Israeli or Jewish~~~but when that day comes, I will stand with Israel.
Nijma 11.05.08 at 1:01 am
#1074
name-lost:Hillary can’t run in 2012.
Whattsamatta? No birth certificate? Hee, hee.
onebigmac 11.05.08 at 1:01 am
what happened?? my post disappeared?
feeling_invisible 11.05.08 at 1:02 am
Does anyone hear me
BrooklynNY 11.05.08 at 1:03 am
#1030 Heneri 11.05.08 at 12:47 am
Again, you are very right, Heneri! This isn’t the first time a generation has been faced with a daunting, frightening challenge! We don’t have to look back far in history to see other generations challenged in ways that are utterly terrifying, i.e. WWII, Nazism is just one example. I can’t even imagine what it must have been like living through that. Yet, people did live through it and they eventually overcame the evil foisted on the world at that time. So we must rise to our occasion and hang on to our momentum, our ideals and our determination. We must believe and we must fight!
Who was it that said democracy is something you continually have to fight FOR, or you lose it.
We really accomplished an astounding feat by all our efforts. And this is just the beginning.
Obama’s honeymoon is not going to last forever. And when reality sets for all those who bought his fantastical lies and deceptions, all hell is going to break loose. Prepare for it. Hell at no fury like a people scorned, especially when the hopes were set so high and left so ill-defined. There will be custom-made disappointment and outrageous disillusionment tailor-made for each empty, diffuse promise individuals constructed out of his vague, ethereal utopian promises.
TerryDo 11.05.08 at 1:03 am
PouncingPuma 11.05.08 at 12:57 am
America as we know it is now in the process of ending. Oh not tomorrow and not even in January. At first it will be insidious and then as evil infiltrates all aspects of government it will become overt and by that time our rights will have been diminished to the extent that we will have become powerless to act in any effective way.
God help us all.
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I think you are correct, perhaps we should all read,”Rules for Radicals” to find out what the enemy know and apply reverse psychology… You can’t beat your enemy if you do not know the rules of their game or social warfare.
Lara08 11.05.08 at 1:03 am
#1065 justnotright writes,
“Just because we were defeated does not mean our cause was not just. It was a just cause. We were not wrong. History will prove this.”
I truly believe that. Things are not in our favor right now, but I will never regret supporting the best candidate (HC) and fighting the good fight all summer. I cannot support BO or the Democrats. I won’t support their tactics.
kat in your hat 11.05.08 at 1:03 am
Obama will be in the spotlight now. He BETTER be fantastic.
HE PROMISED!!!!!!!!!!!
Let’s see it happen.
McCain-PalinGuy 11.05.08 at 1:03 am
…that’s if we’re still around in 2012.
I seriously doubt it.
feebie 11.05.08 at 1:03 am
mountainsong 11.05.08 at 12:56 am
2012 is end of times and it can be interpreted as many things. some say, a shift in Conciousness, for the better for people willing to take that leap of faith.
Isreal is gonna start protecting itself and Oflinchy Butt is gonna poop his drawers when he wont stand up to them and then will provide military backing. Isreal doesnt mess around. They’ve been through tougher times then this before…they aint gonna listen to some non-citizen half term Senator who stole elections to do whats best for them.
People are gonna wake up when this SOMA high is over with one huge hangover. WTF did we do? Only thing is, how MUCH is this ignorance gonna cost us. I dont know that. But we in this together now.
SouthJerseyPUMA 11.05.08 at 1:04 am
how can most f the counties in fla be red but thatfukinjerkoff won the state???
justnotright 11.05.08 at 1:04 am
1073 KarenWI
I’m not sure. I would not be surprised if the numbers were right – however they were based on turnout models from last election. I presume Acorn delivered on the “new voters” needed to cancel out the PUMAs.
I also suspect Obama finally found a formula to do something nobody had successfully done up until now – get young people to vote.
These are my guesses.
SergeiRostov 11.05.08 at 1:04 am
On McCain’s concession:
In the general election, a concession has ABSOLUTELY NO LEGAL STANDING WHATSOEVER.
According to the US Constitution, the States MUST submit a slate of electors , the composition of which is determined by each State’s law. In nearly all states, that means the candidate who received the majority of the popular vote in that state. So the votes MUST continue to be counted in order to determine this.
So if it happens that after al lthe votes are counted, MCain gets to 270 – and the slates are certified by each State’s Sec of State by the “no contesting” deadline in December – McCain would actually be the President-Elect, concession notwithstanding.
utahpuma 11.05.08 at 1:04 am
I think we all need to spend whatever time it takes to get over the loss of this election. Grieving hurts a lot and makes us all angry and sad at the same time.
Then I think we should re-group and set up some goals
on how we can “monitor” things such as ACORN and the real
final results of this election; what goes on in Congress;
what it takes to establish a new party; let’s face it our old
Democratic party is also lost.
Just my thoughts.
ontherocks 11.05.08 at 1:04 am
Simonson 11.05.08 at 1:00 am
We aren’t the good guys.
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What???
Alice Rodham Puma 11.05.08 at 1:04 am
copied and pasted from a comment on the Confluence (ironman)
73% of precincts reporting in OHIO. Obama’s lead is down to 25k votes and dropping.
FOX News shows North Carolina reporting 100% of precincts with McCain ahead.
Indiana and Florida still not called.
McCain ahead in Missouri.
ACORN and the media and the corrupt Chicago political machine and all that crooked money = stolen election
can anyone check these? where is the best link?
onebigmac 11.05.08 at 1:04 am
oh well,
dont blame me..i didnt vote for that bastard obuma
BillieJo 11.05.08 at 1:05 am
Oneof18million cracks… 11.05.08 at 12:56 am
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BillieJo 11.05.08 at 12:48 am
Oneof18million cracks… 11.05.08 at 12:43 am
Asian4Hillary 11.05.08 at 12:16 am
Lets be honest here PUMAS, you CANNOT reform the Democratic Party when a lot of PUMAS ENABLE them by voting them back into office.
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What do you mean PUMAs voted them back into office? Are you talking down ticket Dems?
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Thanks for explaining, I was on the attack and don’t want to swipe you if you didn’t say it.
Asia…………….freakin’ give it a rest. Don’t blame PUMAs for God’s sake or I will come out fightin’……………and don’t anyone start blaming women or I will pounce.
I am as pissed as all of you, and tearing down PUMAs or woman isn’t gonna get a pass tonight.
onebigmac 11.05.08 at 1:05 am
why the hell did mccain concede if the election is still in play???
NewOrleansPuma 11.05.08 at 1:05 am
1037gojoyknocks: You have to be loosing your mind to say that.
I categorically reject that . How dare you. No. It is not possible . I have researched this fraud for 11 months. Everyone here has researched and revealed what he is.
If you truly believe that, then you really need to leave here.
I will be damned if I am going to accept on the PumaPac blog at this time or anytime hereafter that kind of undermining of the people and work here. No. It is not possilbe. There aresome things in this world that are not relativistic…No.
Can you hear that? We are the good guys.
And what we have revealed is true and there is such a thing as Truth. and Ojingo has not one dose of it in him.
justnotright 11.05.08 at 1:06 am
1083 Simonson
We aren’t the good guys.
Speak for yourself.
SouthJerseyPUMA 11.05.08 at 1:07 am
((((((((((((billie jo)))))))))))))
(((((((((all pumas in my heart! thank you for being here!))))))))
KarenWI 11.05.08 at 1:07 am
mountainsong- I also am not Israeli nor Jewish… but I, too, will stand by Israel though our faux POTUS takes us away from them! I’m with you!
feebie 11.05.08 at 1:08 am
PUMA’s have some of the BEST heart I have EVER SEEN. You guys are WONDERFUL. This is a crappy defete ($1B dollars can buy a lot, unfortunately) but you guys did not give up. PUMA’s are LIONS!!!!
Heneri 11.05.08 at 1:08 am
BrooklynNY 11.05.08 at 12:50 am
#1014 Heneri 11.05.08 at 12:42 am
Excellent ideas, Heneri!
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I just spent the last hour before signing on comforting my daughter at California State University at Northridge. She was scared out of her mind by the crowds milling around the dorm parking lot cheering and carrying on. She is a history major and is very frightened about the Nazi mentality of these Obamaites.
My other daughter, a nurse, called me from work. She is on the night shift. She is more practical. She says we just have to pick up the pieces and reassemble them tomorrow. That got me thinking.
We have accomplished a great deal in 5 months. We have become a movement of our own. Obama and his cronies had 40 years to put together their cabal. We have outdone them many times over considering how late we started. Now we just have a harder job, but it is an important job.
Balance of power in government only happens with citizen participation. I went out and voted for a congressional representative whom I detest. Why? Because he is one of the most conservative people in the House! I knew that Obama would need to be reigned in as much as possible if were were unsuccessful. It will take a stiff and determined bunch of conservatives to do it. It was my duty to oppose Obama in the election and it is my duty to make sure he has opposition on the Hill.
ontherocks 11.05.08 at 1:08 am
gojoyknocks 11.05.08 at 12:49 am
Is it possible that we aren’t the good guys?
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Again what in hell are you talking about?
justnotright 11.05.08 at 1:08 am
1103 Alice Rodham Puma
Please keep totals coming in. Like I’ve said a few times, I’ve seen elections that were called for one candidate reversed when 100% of the vote was counted.
Namely, 1996 Netanyahu over Peres
gojoyknocks 11.05.08 at 1:09 am
It would be nice if Murphy stopped by to say hello.
arthur08 11.05.08 at 1:10 am
Been trying to register for the last 3 weeks and it finally took … just in time for the crash.
I have to say that this old republican has his hat off to the PUMAs. You have kept your honor, and put country above party, and fought the good fight.
I count myself among those who think that this is not just another election; this was a defining moment for the US of A as it currently exists. You remember what Padme said? “It is clear to me now that the Republic no longer functions.”
Not sure where to go from here.
KarenWI 11.05.08 at 1:10 am
Do we have some obots in here, or is it just the frustration, hurt, and anger?
SouthernGAL68 11.05.08 at 1:10 am
I went to bed! You see how that went … I am not back up talking to ya’ll again. As some of you know, I am a new PUMA, so would one of ya’ll tell me what POTUS means???? I see it all the time.
KarenWI 11.05.08 at 1:11 am
POTUS- President Of The United States
feebie 11.05.08 at 1:11 am
gojoyknocks – have you drank ANY kool-aide recently?
NewOrleansPuma 11.05.08 at 1:11 am
#1037gojoyknocks: Moreover, you sound like an alynskite…get this straight…No alynskyite deconsstruction of the mind will ever, ever get through this brain of mine. Never.
Oneof18million cracks... 11.05.08 at 1:11 am
Nijma 11.05.08 at 12:55 am
Well, I for one am proud of contributing to Hillary’s campaign. It wasn’t easy for me to afford, but she is welcome to every penny. She is also welcome to the phone banking, the demonstrating, and the sore arthritic knees from going up and down all those front steps doing doors.
I only hope that in 2012 I am in better shape and can do more for her.
If the rest of you want to be petty and start demanding refunds, go right ahead. Maybe your brand new president will be all the representation you need–or deserve.
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I agree, I am proud I backed Hillary. I was disappointed when she suspended her campaign and did not stay and fight, but I have NO idea what caused her to stop. I don’t want any refunds. I got my money’s worth. She inspired me, she made me want to be active in this election process, she put 18 million in the glass ceiling and one day a woman will shatter them. I am proud of being a part of Hillary’s journey and I thank her for a fight well fought. She brought about PUMA pac.
For some odd reason I am not the least bit angry tonight. I am not numb, or sad. I prayed NOT for McCain to win or Obama to lose I prayed God would give me the peace to accept what ever the out come was. I refuse to allow this to over take my life. All this talk about a World War III is a bit much for me. I am going to bed. Good night PUMAs try to have a good night’s sleep all.
Lara08 11.05.08 at 1:11 am
#1117 POTUS=President of the United States
SouthernGAL68 11.05.08 at 1:11 am
sorry = bad typing … meant to say .. now back up
Ario 11.05.08 at 1:12 am
let murphy recover for heavens sakes!
goofsmom 11.05.08 at 1:12 am
1116 We have bot’s in the thread
1117 President of the United States
onebigmac 11.05.08 at 1:12 am
heneri… not to worry..
those little patronizing shithead college students will turn on obama like rabid dogs if he dares take away their piece if the pie they assume they have some God given right right to..
ever see the expression in the face of a college graduate look at their first check and see all the taxes taken out of it??
hahaha its called becoming mature or growing up and living in the real world..hehe
hebrew.que. 11.05.08 at 1:12 am
I voted today for McCain/Palin. PUMAS you are the change. You are the one that will have to fight for “Country First”.
I am upset with all the voters who didn’t research the facts, who were persuaded by the hype, influenced by the bias media, and the voters who voted for a candidate purely on race.
SouthernGAL68 11.05.08 at 1:12 am
Thank you – Lara08
DancesWithPumas 11.05.08 at 1:12 am
BillieJo,,
Yup, you know “stupid” women who will not take responsibility…
You know, like that idiot Murphy, who started that silly little joke of a blog, got her little three sock puppets to write a few email that never really achieved any notice, you know, the imbecile who coordinated, arranged, and paid for the bulk of the Pumas gathering for the convention in denver… plus meals, plus, transportation, plus lodging; and that goofy documentary she’s producing… and the two radio programs she hosts and co-hosts… biggest little shirker in the so-called puma movement.
Then there’s Riverdaughter, the low-information dud thinker/writer over at that rinky dinky website called The Confluence, that has maybe only 4 million hits, what a dullard she is.
And that lackwit, Heidi Li… pfffft, tv ads in how many states? Morons. Oh, gosh, don’t let me forget Sheri… and that two bit cans and a string radio program….
Yep, stupid women not taking responsibility. It’s all their fault that obama “won”.
:::::shrug:::::
SouthJerseyPUMA 11.05.08 at 1:13 am
goodnight pumas’….. God bless each of you… ♥
freddiebrown 11.05.08 at 1:13 am
hmm… where is Murphy… Helloooo ?
Well, I haven’t been working much in the last few several months months. Time to make up for lost time.
TerryDo 11.05.08 at 1:13 am
#1084 kat in your hat 11.05.08 at 1:01 am
HEY OBOTS:
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LOL, It has already started kat in your hat, did you not hear Obama tonight telling his admirers that it will be hard, the climb is steep, we will have a long road ahead of us, you will have to work hard and you may not agree with me most of the time, but one thing you can depend on from me is that I will listen to you. Yes, we can! LOL
He has nothing to give them, he will be demanding, asking and needing them to volunteer and pay taxes. LOL
A rude awakening LOL
Puma you must read #987 LeeinUSA above in order to survive Obama’s onslaught for the people..
feeling_invisible 11.05.08 at 1:13 am
does anyone hear me? not sure if anyone is reading my posts.
feeling incredibly depressed
BillieJo 11.05.08 at 1:13 am
(((((((((SouthJerseyPUMA))))))))))
We fought the good fight PUMA, we did our best…we did all we could to defeat obieNotMyPresident, but the forces of evil were stronger. We need time to meltdown…it’s been an ugly ride. We will pick up again on a better day.
mountainsong 11.05.08 at 1:14 am
“Gird our loins” maybe the understatement of the millenium!
goofsmom 11.05.08 at 1:14 am
Ario
1124 – exactly.. I can’t imagine how she is feeling right now.
Nijma 11.05.08 at 1:14 am
#1081
ck:Hillary betrayed them by campaigning so strongly for BO
Ha! Did you see everyone laughing at that fundraiser when McCain was making fun of how lukewarm she was in her support for Obama?
But what does anyone expect–she’s going to change parties and become Republican? That’s just idiotic. Of course she has to support her party’s candidate. And if she wants help with that $20 million campaign debt she’ll go with the program–and the Obots better not get the idea she’s holding back either. Because when it comes right down to it she is a party loyalist and she DOES want that 2012 nomination.
Name one person who has done more for me than Hillary. Just by running she has done so much for ALL of us. And she will continue to represent us by exercising leadership from the Senate…and in 2012.
jennforhillary 11.05.08 at 1:15 am
http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/
Check these movies out!!! If anything, we must all stick together and know that we are not the bad guys…It’s the system that wants us to kill eachother. We are too smart for that! I believe that people are waking up…Just like we did in this election. I have hope for us.
feebie 11.05.08 at 1:15 am
Did anyone else think Obozo looked scared to DEATH up there during his Victory (cough cough) speech?
KarenWI 11.05.08 at 1:16 am
I’m going to be signing off and TRYING to get some sleep. Not sure if I’ll get any though. I never dreamed America would be this stupid! (shaking head). McCain was doing so well in the polls…. and then there was the coal video…. and those who wouldn’t admit they would be voting for him because they didn’t want to be called racist. When I think how vicious and nasty so many who followed Obama are/were (stealing signs, hanging Palin, etc) it scares me to think of them in power. Evil has won, guys. I remember a scripture that goes something like this: “I set before you life and death; choose life”, but America wouldn’t – they hated republicans too much, and they were too excited about the prospect of a “black” POTUS and an somebody that (supposedly) all the other countries loved! Well, he can stop using a fake Presidential seal and pretending to be POTUS now… he’s got the “real deal” now….
Asian4Hillary 11.05.08 at 1:17 am
I said exactly what I’ve said. It was a total joke to vote NO Obama on top then you vote democrats down ticket when OUR PURPOSE is to reform the Democratic Party. YOU cannot reform a corrupt party when you ENABLE them by voting them back into office – you’re creating a vicious cycle of corruption.
None of you think a democratic controlled congress, senate and whitehouse would make it harder to reform the party. I call it downright blind faith!
jennforhillary 11.05.08 at 1:17 am
Nijma!!
Thank you for those kind posts for Hillary!! I whole heartedly agree!
TerryDo 11.05.08 at 1:17 am
freddiebrown 11.05.08 at 1:13 am
hmm… where is Murphy… Helloooo ?
Well, I haven’t been working much in the last few several months months. Time to make up for lost time.
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Freddiebrown, you have done a marvelous job for Pumapac and you will be rewarded with loads of business, but please do not make over $250,000, or you will be hit by taxes.
I am a astrology buff and I am just curious what is your astrological sign.
ie., if you don’t know just give me the month and day you were born on, no need for the year?
For example I was born on March 24th, thus I am an Aries.
JR Dogman 11.05.08 at 1:17 am
I think there was a lot of voter fraud — a lot. Maybe enough so the election was actually stolen. $600 million can do a lot, and ACORN was really rolling — I’m sure we saw just the tip of the iceberg.
You know, it’s funny, in a sick way, all those stories that kept popping up about people voting multiple times in different precincts, about the dead and children voting. Massive voter fraud was taking place, all over the country, yet the stories went nowhere. The MSM absolutely sold its soul this time around, but they got what they wanted in the bargain.
Heneri 11.05.08 at 1:18 am
There will be many investigations to come. The federal elections commission will investigate and find that Obama took many illegal contributions. The way he has his campaign structured, he will probably be fined, and some of his ‘men’ will surely go to jail. This will be the same thing that took down Nixon.
Then there is the cheating in the primaries. Remember that Hillary did file complaints. Those complaints are still being investigated. Some private citizens also filed complaints. Even if Hillary does not follow through, some of these private people probably will.
Like Nixon, Obama may be forced to step down.
onebigmac 11.05.08 at 1:18 am
watch how fast those infantile college dopes would feel regret over supporting obuma if he adopts charley rangels idea of reinstating the draft for all college students > NO DEFERRMENT KIDS>> now isnt that just ducky??
you wanted obama now deal with it..
BillieJo 11.05.08 at 1:19 am
TerryDo 11.05.08 at 1:13 am
#1084 kat in your hat 11.05.08 at 1:01 am
HEY OBOTS:
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LOL, It has already started kat in your hat, did you not hear Obama tonight telling his admirers that it will be hard, the climb is steep, we will have a long road ahead of us, you will have to work hard and you may not agree with me most of the time, but one thing you can depend on from me is that I will listen to you. Yes, we can! LOL
He has nothing to give them, he will be demanding, asking and needing them to volunteer and pay taxes. LOL
A rude awakening LOL
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My message to Obama. You are not my President. You can’t cheat in an election and be my President. I do not believe in your false religion of hope and change. You are a thug, and I have no respect for you. I am poor, so maybe you will hand me a free $500 that you stole from some other American that worked for it, or maybe I will take it to help fight you off. Don’t expect me to work in your civilian army, I am already part of a working army, the PUMA army. We know the truth and you are a fraud. You hate America and all the good it stands for. You think I owe you something because I am a white older woman that voted for the good candidate, Hillary. Screw you Barack Obama, take your wife that is full of hatred and get the Hell out of my country!!!
SergeiRostov 11.05.08 at 1:19 am
I too am proud of my contributions to Hillary’s campaign. First time I ever felt strongly enough about any candidate to do so. And I am not only going to help her out with her debt, but contribute to her Senate run in 2010.
Ario 11.05.08 at 1:20 am
nijma
ummmmm noooo she doesnt have to support that one….thats nonsense…sorry and she knows how dangerous that bastard is….so why not do whats neccessary to keep him from ruining our country?
feebie 11.05.08 at 1:20 am
onebigmac – i fear that. between that and his civilian para military crap. they come in and scoop em up. i would be horrified if it happend.
KarenWI 11.05.08 at 1:20 am
Well I’m signing off. I want to say I love you all (well, except for the bots who snuck in here). Remember what I said.. watch Israel really closely in the next 6 months. Our future will be very closely tied in with what Israel does or doesn’t do, and how Obama responds to it. Goodnight my fellow PUMA’s. Tomorrow the sun will still rise, even though to a different world than we ever dreamed of…. and hoped would never come.
Notyoursweetie 11.05.08 at 1:21 am
PUMAs here to stay
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/11/05/a-new-day-pumas-here-to-stay/
onebigmac 11.05.08 at 1:21 am
come to think of it..maybe it would be a great idea to send a shitload of these silly little college pinheads over to the middle east and let them see what the kids on the other side of the tracks have had to deal with all these years..hell yeahhh..hoooo rahhh..let em rock..
BillieJo 11.05.08 at 1:21 am
Maybe this is a good thing to rid your anger. Tell Obama how you feel.
Made me feel better, and now that he passed FISA…I will have an FBI PUMA file.
Seattlegirl 11.05.08 at 1:21 am
PUMAs! This is good news, Washington state passed peoples initiative 1000, the Death with Dignity bill! That was a long hard slog. It is exactly the same bill that Oregon has had for years that has stood up to Supreme Court interference. Way to go Washington!
TerryDo 11.05.08 at 1:21 am
#1140 Asian4Hillary 11.05.08 at 1:17 am
I said exactly what I’ve said. It was a total joke to vote NO Obama on top then you vote democrats down ticket when OUR PURPOSE is to reform the Democratic Party.
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You are wise Asian4Hillary and I love your panache and the truth of many of your statements. Like a breath of fresh air when we Pumas begin to get stale in our thinking.
MakowashiNatsuko 11.05.08 at 1:21 am
I feel as though I have been raped….or beaten…I’m sitting inside of my dorm room listening to people running up and down chanting Obama over and over and over again…why did this happen….
gojoyknocks 11.05.08 at 1:22 am
ontherocks Didn’t mean to start trouble. I just meant,aren’t the good guys suppose to win?
feebie 11.05.08 at 1:22 am
onebigmac – problem is, the draft usually doesnt take the college kids. its designed for the poor. i’ll stop there. sigh.
BrianH 11.05.08 at 1:23 am
Never has the expression, “There’ll be Hell to pay,” sounded as literal and exact as right now. Never.
SouthernGAL68 11.05.08 at 1:23 am
I just got back on — what name was the OBOT using?
onebigmac 11.05.08 at 1:24 am
makowashi.. they are idiots.. and fools.. dont pay them any attention..they are full of it anyway..
goofsmom 11.05.08 at 1:24 am
gojoyknocks
Who said the battle was over… we are the good guys and we aren’t done with “O” and the rest, including the media yet!
Caroline 11.05.08 at 1:24 am
I feel so bad, really disappointed.
Ario 11.05.08 at 1:24 am
well this is def a page turner in my life…i absoloutely wont be watching the news or taking part in anymore politics….and i will never ever call that racist my president…never….americans wanted that fool….then let them have em
NewOrleansPuma 11.05.08 at 1:24 am
1140Asian4Hillary: I never supported the down ticket approach and said so more than once here. I said I would punish all Democrats and I did.
BillieJo 11.05.08 at 1:25 am
SergeiRostov 11.05.08 at 1:19 am
I too am proud of my contributions to Hillary’s campaign. First time I ever felt strongly enough about any candidate to do so. And I am not only going to help her out with her debt, but contribute to her Senate run in 2010.
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I agree. I have never donated a penny to any candidate before and I would never ask Hillary for any money back. I believe in her like I did JFK and RFK. Any of you that want to ask her for money back, do it yourself…don’t expect praise from me, it makes me sick.
ontherocks 11.05.08 at 1:26 am
The one thing I would like to do is work with other sites and find a way to try and get a bill passed stopping the media from calling the results until at least 70% has reported in a state and all polling has closed. This jumping the gun is not right. We have so many smart pumas I am sure we can find a way to create a bill, lobby it, and get it passed. Well maybe not while BO is in office.
SouthernGAL68 11.05.08 at 1:26 am
If I had to listen to ONE PERSON say that piece of S___ name … I would probably lose my mind. I refused to turn my TV back on, out of fear that I would have to look at his face.
tennaseepuma 11.05.08 at 1:26 am
You know something pumanation I cried my eyes out when Hillary was not the nominee at the DNC sham,but I did not cry tonight because JM was not my canidate,he was just the best of the worst, I fought for this country because I did not believe Obama was right for us. THIS WAS A SELECTED BY THE POWERS THAT BE WITH ALL THE MONEY,WE NEVER SAW THE REPUBLICANS BRING OUT THE BIG GUNS, our government was in the tank from the get go. WE DID NOT LOSE AMERICA LOST…….
I am filing my paperwork for my Irish citizenship just in case.
I am proud of what we accomplished dont trash it,please we were many we just did not have the money to do more…..Iwill be here tomorrow to begin the next step and I hope to see all of you too.
onebigmac 11.05.08 at 1:26 am
feebie.. i dont like charley rangel that much.. but i can see his point about drafting college kids and sending them to war instead of just sending poor working class kids ..draft the little priveleged bastards and see just how fast they become hard core conservatives that hate obama..
feebie 11.05.08 at 1:27 am
Death with Dignity bill???? so what does that say? They state says they can…? Please tell me that is not what that means.
EVEN if it seems like a good idea…giving the STATE control over any aspect of anything is a window to allow them to do bad things in the future.
Let me explain. The Doctor can administer it right? Well, what if Universal Healthcare comes in and then what happens when doctors work for the Government. “Oh, she costs too much…”.
I dont mean to sound like a total moron. But this is exactly how they get their agendas through.
BrianH 11.05.08 at 1:27 am
KarenWI 11.05.08 at 1:11 am
POTUS- President Of The United States///
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Not in this case. “Pile Of Truly Ugly Sh**”.
That’s the French version, anyway.
jallen0347 11.05.08 at 1:27 am
PUMA’s have come a long way in the last 7 months, just think of what we could accomplish in the next 2 years to prepare for 2012… PUMA’s have gone from being unknown to a news worthy group of determined to stand their ground for what they believe
in. AND that is that All AMERICANS not just select few are treated fairly, without hatered and insults and manipulation…
Just imagen when that one young lady who seriously thinks Obama will be paying her car payment and mortgage…. Many people may be looking for a hand out but we have bills to pay so it won’t be long when people realize that the thing’s will not be as they believed they would be….
snowtiger007 11.05.08 at 1:27 am
I was talking to people and trying to get them to calm down.
anwya goodnight pUMAS. I need some slep go tot go to work early tomorrow
I will be bcak tomorrow night.
The fight goes on.
TerryDo 11.05.08 at 1:27 am
feebie 11.05.08 at 1:15 am
Did anyone else think Obozo looked scared to DEATH up there during his Victory (cough cough) speech?
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Actually Feebie, you are right, he was thinking holy crap I actually pulled this off, now what…. Oh oh here comes my diarrhea!
BillieJo 11.05.08 at 1:27 am
NewOrleansPuma 11.05.08 at 1:24 am
1140Asian4Hillary: I never supported the down ticket approach and said so more than once here. I said I would punish all Democrats and I did.
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I voted down ticket Dems and Reps females………….so take a swipe at me if your woman enough….anyone! Go for it and I will take you on!!!!
NewOrleansPuma 11.05.08 at 1:28 am
gojoyknocks: I am in no mood for this crap. That is not what you said…give it a rest. Go read a fairy tale like Cinderella or Goldilocks but do not attempt to deconstruct your comment.
HiHat 11.05.08 at 1:28 am
Alice #1103
You’re right about the numbers.
Not to beat a dead horse but, Indiana, North Carolina, and Ohio are very close. Close enough for a recount.
Problem is Florida. That One is up pretty large there.
Now, if you took those four States away from Obama (73 EV) he would only have 265 – not enough. But, Florida is not close enough for a recount.
Anyway, they have already crowned their King.
Libby 11.05.08 at 1:28 am
I predicted back in the early spring that electing Oboe would be the equivalent of Jimmy Carter. Then a bunch of Obots jumped me over at Salon.
Well, guess what Obbullshit said in his speech.
“you will have to cut back and sacrifice…”
Same Jimmy Carter speech. If we just suffer enough we might be okay. Then Ronald R. came along and blew Jimmy out of the water.
Problem is, Oboe is worse than Jimmy Carter. So he needs to be blown out of the water NOW.
If the end of this vote do not somehow get McCain a win, then Obama needs to be attacked. The media needs to be attacked.
If there is any puma who can get together with other pumas to set up a new media station, it needs to be done. If we can take down the old networks that were in the tank,…it needs to be done.
If you use google, change to another search engine since they were in the tank, funding and advising Obama.
We need to get a list of supporters of Obama and take them down, while building up a new network. It Can be done.
freddiebrown 11.05.08 at 1:28 am
TerryDo
I am a Pisces. And I never give out my age
Just something I don’t do for the fun of it.
I am strangely, sadly calm tonight.
KarenWI 11.05.08 at 1:28 am
I’m back…. then will definately sign off for bed. Does anybody know if Murtha or any of the other crud got re-elected?
feeling_invisible 11.05.08 at 1:28 am
I AM VERY DEPRESSED!
Flasunshiner 11.05.08 at 1:29 am
I do not want my money back from Hillary. Money given with good intent is never wasted. An act of generosity meant to help another will in turn come back to you.
feebie 11.05.08 at 1:29 am
onebigmac – i just dont like the government picking out who gets to go over and where. who gets to die. who gets to let who go bankrupt etc.
Anyway. I am tired.
You pumas are awesome, truly. Thanks for the Good fight. All of you. LION HEARTS.
MKfromLA 11.05.08 at 1:29 am
1014 Heneri ……. a new centrist party
I agree. Although my decision is that I am longer a dem, also I will never ever be a republican. So if there is a third party and if it is PUMA then I am listening.
ontherocks 11.05.08 at 1:29 am
Billie Jo,
I don’t think anyone is looking for praise from you or anyone else. We all different views of Hillary. I fought as hard as could for her when she gave it I had no reason to fight for her anymore. I would much rather be cheering to Hillary tonight instead of stressing over BO but that did not happen.
Feel how you. No one can fault you for that, but please don’t fault others for feeling differently than you.
Flasunshiner 11.05.08 at 1:30 am
KarenWI
Murtha did not win.
kat in your hat 11.05.08 at 1:31 am
I feel like my youth is kaput.
Young me. Too young to not trust the media and all politicians and an entire party, plus my gender.
Bad bad bad.
Ignornance IS bliss.
Wanna know what I was doing a year ago? Looking at magazines and shopping and reading celeb crap, and making fun of E! channel. And partying. And having fun being hot and getting my master’s. That’s IT. Planning my next vacation. That was IT.
Now? Holy crap. Scared for my country and our allies.
Horrible.
Seattlegirl 11.05.08 at 1:31 am
gojoyknocks : This is the night of BO glory and now the honeymoon starts. Don’t let it get you down. Jan 20th the BOites have to actually start governing when all they have done in their lifetime is mock those in power. They have no one to blame their screw ups on now, they are unopposed. Their lives just get harder from today on. Granted with this vindication of the behavior of the dirty Dems and MSM we will no longer be able to watch TV or listen to NPR but it has been so going down hill lately that we all needed a change anyway.
KarenWI 11.05.08 at 1:31 am
Flasunshiner, thank you. It is a very very small crumb, to be sure. But at least there is a tiny bit of good news that I can to go bed with. Good night pumas!
exDemMcvoter 11.05.08 at 1:32 am
Billie Jo-
Yes, Asian’s assigning “blame” to those who voted for down ticket Dems.
Here’s the point: If you really believe that it was Fraud, and Fraud only, within the Dem Party that got O nominated then why in the world would you vote for Downticket Dems?
If it was really Fraud that get him nominated, then every Democrat who did not come out against that fraud is complicit.
And every Democrat who went on to stump for O is complicit.
The Democratic Party itself, as a whole, has SANCTIONED FRAUD.
So why in the world would anyone who believes in Democracy vote Democrat?
I’m speaking for Asian here so I could be wrong, but I assume that is what she meant.
And I happen to agree with her.
A vote for a Dem is a vote that says “I know that you, as a Dem leader are okay with fraud and I, who am voting for you, am okay with Fraud too”.
Out of all the Dems out there, the only one that I personally would excuse is the one from NYS that went to PA. and stumped for McCain last week. Clearly, she is concerned with fraud in her Party.
All the other Dems could give a sh*t about it. And by extension, people who vote for them (and were aware of the fraud) also do not care about fraud.
It’s just a logical conclusion. Asian’s just a very logical person.
goofsmom 11.05.08 at 1:32 am
I’m off to bed, all of the sudden I feel very tired. I will be back on tomorrow to see what we are going to do, to get this country back under control!
MakowashiNatsuko 11.05.08 at 1:32 am
onebigmac thank you for telling me that. They drank the punch and are clones of him….I’m a history major and I’m looking at how they are acting…and it is like the Nazi’s during WWII
But we must remember something…we might have lost the battle but the war is FAR from being over with.
kat in your hat 11.05.08 at 1:32 am
Murtha lost?
justnotright 11.05.08 at 1:32 am
Wow, just looking over the returns. Pennsylvania really, really let us down. I really thought PA was a PUMA state. Clearly that was not the case.
When we regroup, we will look at the data and see just how many PUMAs there were in the country.
SouthernGAL68 11.05.08 at 1:33 am
TennaseePuma – I cried like a baby tonight, not because McCain was my canidate, but because of my fears toward an Obama pres. NO ONE should trash anyone here! I have only been a puma for about 3 weeks. I can say this… I am so proud to see a bunch of people (from all backgrounds) come together AS AMERICANS to do the right thing for the country they love!
freddiebrown 11.05.08 at 1:33 am
I too voted all Repubs and all women !
They need to rebrand the Republican brand. The Democratic brand is so toxic but so attractively packaged and marketed – it is amazing.
NewOrleansPuma 11.05.08 at 1:34 am
1174BillieJoe: Why would I want to do that? Iwas responding to Asian4Hillary regarding what my postion was and what I did.
Ido not begrudge anyone else’s different move . I said what I did…and did not say what anyoneelse should have done.
Regarding being woman enough? I use that kind of comment for my enemies not my cohorts and I am not your enemy nor or you mine.
BrianH 11.05.08 at 1:35 am
Flasunshiner 11.05.08 at 1:30 am
KarenWI
Murtha did not win.////
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?? He won his election with about 56%, the last I saw. 12th Congressional District, PA.
MKfromLA 11.05.08 at 1:35 am
#1052 DWP
five years till retirement – I am also at that awkward age (57)
Flasunshiner 11.05.08 at 1:36 am
kat in your hat
Fox news said Murtha lost, but in this crooked election who knows what is the truth.
kat in your hat 11.05.08 at 1:37 am
Murphy, post a “calm” image from google.
Tell us you will talk to us in the morning. Nothing more. Thread is dang long.
I went for a walk tonight. The streets were DEAD. I overhead one domestic argument in an apartment, but everything was dead quiet. Was wondering how people were doing.
MakowashiNatsuko 11.05.08 at 1:37 am
My mother had to comfort me on the phone tonight…she told me the news and I started to cry…then the cheering of all the Obama supporters started at about that time and it hasn’t stopped…
I’m a little bit worried about going to class tomorrow…I suppose that perhaps I should just grin and bare it….and let what happen eat away at me from the inside.
Heneri 11.05.08 at 1:37 am
MakowashiNatsuko 11.05.08 at 1:32 am
Glad you are on!
Seattlegirl 11.05.08 at 1:38 am
feebie : No the Dr can not administer a lethal dose to any patient. The bill says any patient judged to be terminal within 6 months as decided by two separate Drs can get a prescription for a lethal dose and take it or not take it by themselves. They have to be judged lucid and not depressed by Doctors also. Like abortion those who oppose it do not have to seek it out.
MakowashiNatsuko 11.05.08 at 1:39 am
I know I’ve been busy lately Henri. All the papers and the life of a history major…the joys.
Nijma 11.05.08 at 1:39 am
Ario, what’s this, “burn the house down”, “dangerous”…
No, even a president does not have that much power. Ever see a train stop on a dime? No; a train has too much momentum. The United States is a huge ship and it takes a lot to turn it even a little bit. If Obama hasn’t got it figured out yet, he is extremely limited in what he can do, especially since the country hasn’t got any money in the bank and there’s a huge debt to China too.
Hillary could be petty and pout and refuse to support him I suppose, but she’s bigger than that. Remember when she reached across the aisle to work with what’s-his-face who started the impeachment against her husband? Hillary’s not a hick, she’s national caliber, she’s a team player. And like so, so many women, she also knows how to lead from behind, from inside the pack, without getting the credit she deserves. Her goal is not importance for herself, although I ‘m sure she has those necessary political instincts too, but she is looking ahead to how she can accomplish for the whole country. She won’t be a leader by throwing a hissy fit, although some of us might find that satisfying in the short term.
The least we can do, with all the the difficulties she has had to overcome, is to let her know we do love her for what she is doing for us and for the country.
kat in your hat 11.05.08 at 1:39 am
@1202:
Just say you are excited. Obama promised SO MUCH! Man, it will be Christmas! Can’t wait. Man, a lot of pressure on him to be amazing. Can’t wait! errrrrrrrrrrrrrr lol
NObamaDem 11.05.08 at 1:39 am
Pumas, Sarah Palin and the first dude looked devastated tonight while McCain was speaking. Gov. Palin had the slightest hint of tears in her eyes. That moved me. This is so sad. I, like many of you, have never cried over politics. But I have cried so many tears this many long months. I mean after all, life after the elections does go on. But then again, I also never given it my all like I did for Hillary, and as a result suffered the severe ups and downs that came along with how she was wrestled out of what should have been her nomination. I cannot even begin to imagine how these candidates must feel, having been giving it their absolute utmost, and getting beat up by their opponents and the press day in and day out now for months and months on end.
This has been a day we’ve all looked forward to, and at the same time dreaded. I know I did. I had hope, but it was tempered with cycnicism after what we’ve been through with Hillary. I just want to get back to my ‘normal’ life again. But like it or not, I somehow feel like my life will never actually be normal ever again. Life will indeed go on after this election. I’m sure the Puma movement will go on. I’m just not sure I ever want to be so involved in politics ever again. I do know this, we as a democratic people must remain awake and ever vigilant from this day forward to how we are being governed. We cannot be complacent any longer. For that complacency is indeed exactly how we ended up in this place we now find ourselves. We MUST demand better.
It’s late. I’m exhausted and emotionally drained but finding it hard to sleep. But I must try.
God bless all you courageous pumas. Our movement will survive to fight another day! Yes WE will…you betcha!
freddiebrown 11.05.08 at 1:40 am
I didn’t want to mention this before, i have long thought that there are not as many Pumas as we want to think – i don’t want to throw out a number. It is best that people percieve us to be bigger than we are. We need to market this brand to be an independant watch dog and get more people on board.
SouthernGAL68 11.05.08 at 1:40 am
NewOrleans .. I am up north of you … Shreveport! Do you know who got elected for senate here in Louisiana???
I turned my TV off before I had to look at BO
BillieJo 11.05.08 at 1:41 am
ontherocks
I do think that some people that have asked Hillary for her money back have come on the blog and tried to get others to do the same. If I decided to do that, I would not feel proud of it enough to come and tell others. To me it is like trying to buy someone.
GoPumaGo 11.05.08 at 1:41 am
I have to hold Hillary responsible for the loss. If Hillary had stood up against Obama instead of trying to talk her supporters into voting for the crook we would have defeated Obama. Now America has a mess because of Hillary.
We have to decide if we will continue to support Hillary. She will not be able to run in 2012 no matter what happens. She is now out of the picture forever. She will be too old in 2016. Hillary will never be president in the future.
Sarah has a better chance then Hillary since she is younger. But it is always hard to win against a sitting president. So even she has little chance in 2012.
We must regroup and push for womens rights. We must find a new way to define ourself. the idea of being Hillary Supporters is now gone. “Hillary supporters” have no future.
I will continue to support legal avenues ala Berg lawsuit. There are more lowsuits planned. There is a small chance that Obama can be declared not eligible to be President before inaugeration. But it will be difficult because he hides all his information. With the grandmother now dieing it will be even more difficult.
Also where were all the PUMA. They did not seem to appear. We did not organize ourself properly. We allowed too many PUMA women to vote for Obama because we did not get our message to them. We acted like regular Republicans for McCain. We did not really recruit every single PUMA possible. We needed a hundred million dollars for advertising. it takes big big money to fight the huge money Obama had.
the money bought the primary. about 300 million. then the general election was another 700 million for a billion dollars. big money. NO WAY did that come for the poor people. I had to come from the OIL MONEY.
But the key to this election was the 18 million Hillary supporters who were not taught to defect to McCain. We were too few. We did not unite the PUMA. Hillary sold out the country for whatever reason. She put Party above Country and now as hard as it must be for me, I will have to stop supporting Hillary for President. My first loyalty is and always will be for my country. American the land of the FREE must always come first. The Constitution is more than a piece of paper. It is the hope for the world. Hillary deserted that ideal.
This morning I cried because I wanted to vote for Hillary. Now I see I was wrong. Hillary deserted a Free America for her own personal agenda. She lost her opportunity to be a real American Hero doing the right thing. She sold out her soul and I can no longer support her.
SouthernGAL68 11.05.08 at 1:41 am
Freddie … I like!
Flasunshiner 11.05.08 at 1:42 am
Brian H
I saw on the news where Murtha lost…maybe it was just a projection of a loss…anyway I stand corrected if he won. I think it time I hit the sack because I am half asleep and I should not answer questions when I can’t think straight.
Good Night Wonderful PUMA’s.
MKfromLA 11.05.08 at 1:42 am
good night friends. See you tmw in PUMAland or Belize.
Thank you all.
feeling_invisible 11.05.08 at 1:42 am
ok since no one has responded to my posts i am feeling pretty invisible and will log off now
take care
Cat in NJ 11.05.08 at 1:42 am
Here’s a video that pretty much sums up how this PUMA feels right now:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDGhN9Dz_P4
gojoyknocks 11.05.08 at 1:42 am
#1117 NOP…I’m sorry if I riled you. There is nobody on this site that has worked harder for Hillary then me. I understand how upset you are but you’re wrong on this.
JR Dogman 11.05.08 at 1:43 am
For all of you who are still up for fighting the good fight, I think a good course of action would be to get involved with what Philip Berg is working on. His website is http://www.obamacrimes.com, and I am sure he will want all the help he can get.
If blogs push hard enough on a single issue, sometimes they can break through to the mainstream, and get some serious attention. Remember “Rathergate”? That was entirely blog-driven, till it burst into the MSM and put Rather and CBS on the defensive.
TerryDo 11.05.08 at 1:43 am
freddiebrown 11.05.08 at 1:28 am
TerryDo
I am a Pisces.
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My best friend is a Pisces, talented smart and a little bit of a martyr for her kids. Don’t tell her I said that.
Good news Uranus in your first house is moving forward and you will be promoting yourself much better than you have in the past 6 months. So if you have any art pieces or creative works starting from the end of November onward you will have good success. Your whole world is about to open up with new and very important friends so be prepared and open to the experience. That is just some of the fun stuff I tell Cathy, my friends about Pisces future…
jallen0347 11.05.08 at 1:43 am
OK, I just hope that PUMA’s stood by their conviction and refused to vote for Obama…. Bedcause if we did that then we stood by our own conviction…. I have a few friends who voted for him, their African American and Bi-Racial. But when I explained my syand on how the votes of the people were not acknowledged and that I had not changed my point of view just because Obama is the projected winner…. When I asked one of them why exactly they voted for Obama, they said because he has a freshness, I think that might be a refernce to Obamas in experience….
turndownobama 11.05.08 at 1:44 am
Libby,
I agree the news is the key, and it’s something we can do — wean people away from Big Media to blogs.
NewOrleansPuma 11.05.08 at 1:45 am
SlouthernGal67: No I do not. I went to the Sec of State site at about 9:30 and at that time NewOrleans and Jefferson Parish had not even turned in anything..but Landrieu and kennedy were tied…My nephew told me later that Landrieu was ahead by 55,ooo…probably No and Jefferson did that..I expect she won…although I punished her too after 20 plus years of voting for her… because she did or said nothing against the sexism, etc against Hillary and was totally in the tank for Ojingo.I voted Kennedy.
alohapuma 11.05.08 at 1:45 am
TrishfromCanda,
I really really dislike losing too.
ontherocks 11.05.08 at 1:46 am
freddiebrown 11.05.08 at 1:40 am
I didn’t want to mention this before, i have long thought that there are not as many Pumas as we want to think – i don’t want to throw out a number. It is best that people percieve us to be bigger than we are. We need to market this brand to be an independant watch dog and get more people on board.
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I agree. We can get away with branding ourselves as a watchdog group. No party sides. We see a problem we try and get the word out. We might get more people involved this way. The more people we have the more we can get done.
BillieJo 11.05.08 at 1:46 am
exDemMcvoter
I beg to differ with you logic. I am not ready to say that because of the fraud, which there was that I am willing to vote for Republicans. I do not trust them at all. Mac and Palin were okay with me as a protest only. I did not vote for anyone that stabbed Hillary in the back. If you think that attacking PUMAs is the right thing to do, maybe you have wandered on to the wrong blog. That is one of the rules.
Seattlegirl 11.05.08 at 1:46 am
Every time I go off the blog for awhile it is because I have gotten another phone call. Many people calling to comfort me and many I wasn’t sure I had influenced telling me what they had done for the PUMA cause. This has been a crappy political season and I am going to bed. See you all tomorrow.
SouthJerseyPUMA 11.05.08 at 1:47 am
I want to dedicate this to all PUMA’s and what PUMA has stood for these last 6 months~
AMERICAN TEARS~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmoSMkwKYBM
xoxo
SouthernGAL68 11.05.08 at 1:47 am
I voted Kennedy as well! Thank you – I am sure we will find out in tomorrows paper.
Xtine000 11.05.08 at 1:47 am
Well, I’m happy I also hold Finnish citizenship. There, President Tarja Halonen is incumbant till 2012. If our economy breaks down even further due to bumbling and “wealth redistribution” by BO, it’s a one-way ticket I’ll be buying. I’m sure I’ll be skiing down a path when I’ll see a faint, tiny mushroom cloud on the horizon which will be NYC vaporizing in another more effective terrorist attack.
I know you tried to stop it, Murphy. You’ll never have to worry that you didn’t try hard enough.
Perhaps your efforts would be well spent now figuring out how to do an impeachement due to all the cheating and lying.
JR Dogman 11.05.08 at 1:48 am
Philip Berg is, incidentally, a lifelong Democrat and a HUGE Hillary backer.
If all of the major PUMA blogs united in an effort to assist Philip Berg, who knows…
Oneof18million cracks... 11.05.08 at 1:48 am
Margenau 11.04.08 at 11:53 pm
Anna, what’s terrible is that WOMEN elected Zero today. The Dems are an abusive boyfriend–they know you’ll always come running back, because where else are you gonna go, sweetie?
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Anna7000 11.05.08 at 12:06 am #918
LOTS of people gave Obama this victory, not just “stupid women”. He captured Hispanics, Jews, Catholics, blue collar, rich, and on and on…
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mountainsong 11.05.08 at 12:59 am #1079
Oneof18million cracks… ‘Women’ was mentioned but nowhere did anyone say “stupid” women. That’s not true, so don’t go starting crap.
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Mountain I don’t start crap, I only responded to what I read.
I don’t think PUMAs voting down ticket democrat or women are to blame for Obama’s win. I think it is what it is and blaming anyone won’t change it.
TerryDo 11.05.08 at 1:48 am
freddiebrown 11.05.08 at 1:40 am
I didn’t want to mention this before, i have long thought that there are not as many Pumas as we want to think – i don’t want to throw out a number. It is best that people percieve us to be bigger than we are. We need to market this brand to be an independant watch dog and get more people on board.
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When I think of us, as a collective group of Pumas, I also count or include the other hundreds of webs site such as Just Say No Deal, Confluence, et al that are listed on the JSND website and that is why I feel there are myriad of us, which includes those who are unknown Pumas to themselves. Such as many of the positive lurkers…
NewOrleansPuma 11.05.08 at 1:48 am
Goodnight everyone. Goodnight Murphy whereever you are.
MakowashiNatsuko 11.05.08 at 1:48 am
How am I going to deal with all the people on campus tomorrow….it will feel like I’m walking through a dream more then likely….not a dream a nightmare….
BillieJo 11.05.08 at 1:49 am
Good night, I am not in the mood for this.
BrooklynNY 11.05.08 at 1:49 am
#1112 Heneri 11.05.08 at 1:08 am
I understand what your daughter was feeling. Outside my apt in Brooklyn there was a lot of cheering and car horn honking. It is scary. There’s something ominous about it – that so many people could have bought into such evil and be so overjoyed to be participating in their own demise, the demise of their country and their loss of their freedoms. They’ve been hoodwinked, lied to, manipulated, used and they’re cheering?!!! It gives me chills down my spine.
turndownobama 11.05.08 at 1:49 am
Please don’t blame PUMAs. Who says they didn’t vote for McCain? We were out-weighed by the fraudulent votes, that’s all. It was the dead people who voted for Obama, not us!
HiHat 11.05.08 at 1:49 am
Yes, I’ve wondered too – just how many PUMAS are there?
No way to tell, but if you believe most of the exit polls, somewhere between 15%-20% of Clinton Dems did not vote for Obama.
That would make the PUMA number around 3 million. That’s a lot in most elections, but this time around America bought into the cult of personality and elected a celebrity.
MakowashiNatsuko 11.05.08 at 1:50 am
I wrote this when I found out who had won…: The impending breath of doom is upon the nape of thy neck. The hole of darkness swallows up any light of there being hope in the world. The life that we once knew will be over with soon.
We shall follow the jester to the days of doom, to that of the painful death that awaits us when we reach the end of days.
We shunned Death on his promise of sweetness to sleep for all eternity, in peace, and in bliss. We decided to follow the Jester to that of a painful death in HELL.
When in hell we shall be met by the prince of darkness, whom shall dance on our spine, while our kidneys are eaten by the hell hounds, where our souls shall be thrown into the fiery pits of damnation. As the Jester with his bells, and fiddles laughs at the gleeful sound of our screams of pain, and cries for forgiveness. For the mercy of GOD that will never come.
Hope may be lost…hope…what is this hope and light that we hear of…shall god be merciful to us…or shall he sit back and let the Jester take our hands and lead us to the end of days?
Lara08 11.05.08 at 1:51 am
O.K., I have to call it a night. Please keep in mind that pretty much anyone could have won this election (and anyone did win) because there was so much hatred towards Bush. He had a 22% approval rating. The Democrats knew this and that’s why they stole the nomination from Hillary.
#1202 So sorry you are experiencing your first big political disappointment. I didn’t cry tonight. I had braced myself for this. I lost it back in 2000 when Gore “lost” and I cried as U.S. troops went rolling into Iraq. I knew then that was wrong and that there would be a price we’d have to pay.
I will begin working on women’s issues (possibly with The New Agenda) as soon as people regroup. Do know that people have made connections throughout the country and will continue to fight. Do I even need to say this? Don’t believe the media’s story line about PUMAs being irrelevant. Give me a $600 million and I too will be able to influence national elections.
Night all,
Lara08
jennforhillary 11.05.08 at 1:51 am
gojoyknocks
are you kidding me?? Why do all the good guys get killed and the fucked up ones live?? what world do you live in?
SouthernGAL68 11.05.08 at 1:51 am
Okay! I have a MILLION DOLLAR QUESTION for ya’ll ….
If Hillary HAD been picked as Obama’s VP … and …YOU ALL KNEW WHAT WE ALL KNOW ABOUT OBAMA (affiliations, background, lies , dirty etc…) WOULD U STILL VOTE DEMO???????
Heneri 11.05.08 at 1:51 am
MakowashiNatsuko:
All those founding documents you are studying are very important. If we let them, they will speak to us in new and wonderful ways.
(In case the rest of you don’t know MakowashiNatsuko Is my daughter. This is her first presidential election. I wish it could have turned out better.)
TerryDo 11.05.08 at 1:51 am
#1230 JR Dogman 11.05.08 at 1:48 am
I think Philip Berg is a red herring and I can smell it from all the way down here!
DancesWithPumas 11.05.08 at 1:53 am
1211 BillieJo 11.05.08 at 1:41 am
Asking Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton for a refund… lower than low.
justnotright 11.05.08 at 1:53 am
1212 GoPumaGo
I can certainly understand the sentiment.
Hillary did sell-out in my view also. I don’t know what she could have done much differently though. The alternative was to become some sort of a Joe Lieberman pariah in the party.
Remember she is still on the hook for all that campaign debt.
I will reserve final judgement until I see what plays out but she has lost a lot of credibility with her supporters that she may never get back.
JasonPresyl 11.05.08 at 1:53 am
Three things got Obama elected
1) Media bias — no real way to get around that one.
2) An extremely effective ground game (the first one for a Dem in history, perhaps?) — this is the only thing for which I really give Obama credit.
3) One of the most poorly executed Republican campaigns since Bob Dole’s (or maybe Giuliani’s in the primary). While Obama was setting up offices all over the country, McCain was dancing around the process of choosing a coherent message for months. Instead of exploiting Obama’s substandard choice of foot-in-mouth Biden for VP, McCain made the worst VP choice I’ve had the luxury of observing. I almost considered not voting after that choice, because Palin makes Quayle look like an intelligent guy. If Palin is ever at the top of ticket in the future, I will probably sit that one out.
Tomorrow people around the country will say that Obama’s “brilliance as a candidate” won this — I say that McCain ineptitude lost it.
SouthernGAL68 11.05.08 at 1:54 am
If yall dont know already, I come from a Republican background; therefore, I am curious to see how yall answer.
jallen0347 11.05.08 at 1:54 am
#1291 feebie 11.05.08 at 1:27 am
Death with Dignity bill???? so what does that say? They state says they can…? Please tell me that is not what that means.
Nothing persona; but the two pieces I know My sister and my old friend are two of the pickiest people I know and shopping is hell of a task to complete, especially for clothes….
SouthJerseyPUMA 11.05.08 at 1:54 am
PLEASE STOP ATTACKING EACH OTHER~ PLEASE WATCH AND LISTEN TO THE WORDS~ TAKE A TIME OUT…. YOU ALL HAVE COME TO FAR TO FIGHT EACH OTHER…. THIS IS BEAUTIFUL AND NEVER SO TRUE AS TONIGHT!!
AMERICAN TEARS~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmoSMkwKYBM
MakowashiNatsuko 11.05.08 at 1:54 am
I’m kind of dreading Thursday’s American History class….my professor will have a freakin’ spring in his step…
SouthJerseyPUMA 11.05.08 at 1:54 am
PLEASE STOP ATTACKING EACH OTHER~ PLEASE WATCH AND LISTEN TO THE WORDS~ TAKE A TIME OUT…. YOU ALL HAVE COME TO FAR TO FIGHT EACH OTHER…. THIS IS BEAUTIFUL AND NEVER SO TRUE AS TONIGHT!!
AMERICAN TEARS~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmoSMkwKYBM
SouthernGAL68 11.05.08 at 1:55 am
Come on, somebody has got to answer my question.
gostrumcat 11.05.08 at 1:56 am
Good night NOP! Sweet dreams girl!
ontherocks 11.05.08 at 1:56 am
SouthernGAL68 11.05.08 at 1:51 am
Okay! I have a MILLION DOLLAR QUESTION for ya’ll ….
If Hillary HAD been picked as Obama’s VP … and …YOU ALL KNEW WHAT WE ALL KNOW ABOUT OBAMA (affiliations, background, lies , dirty etc…) WOULD U STILL VOTE DEMO???????
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NOPE!!
HiHat 11.05.08 at 1:57 am
Southern Gal,
I for one would have NEVER voted for That One, no matter who he put on the ticket.
As a lifelong Democrat, my vote this year was AGAINST OBAMA. As it will be in 2012.
Heneri 11.05.08 at 1:58 am
MakowashiNatsuko
You need MUSIC! Look out some Gershwin tunes and go play them on the piano. Or better yet, Greenday. “Virginia was a lot lizard from S.L.A………………..” That always cheers you up!
turndownobama 11.05.08 at 1:58 am
Seattlegirl 11.05.08 at 1:21 am
PUMAs! This is good news, Washington state passed peoples initiative 1000, the Death with Dignity bill! That was a long hard slog. It is exactly the same bill that Oregon has had for years that has stood up to Supreme Court interference. Way to go Washington!
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Good for WA!!
SouthJerseyPUMA 11.05.08 at 1:59 am
SOUTHERNGAL~ THAT WOULD BE A “HELL NO!!!”
gojoyknocks 11.05.08 at 1:59 am
Good night All. I’m too tired to wait up for Murphy.
justnotright 11.05.08 at 1:59 am
1209 freddiebrown
I am afraid you’re right. We learned today that we are the lonely PUMAs. Sure to get lonelier as some of us will probably go back to the Democratic party rather than be left out in the cold politically.
I’m never going back. The corrupt forces in the DNC won and to the victor are the spoils. The honorable Democrats are right here in this room.
And for us, there is no home to go to.
DancesWithPumas 11.05.08 at 1:59 am
SouthernGAL68 11.05.08 at 1:51 am
Okay! I have a MILLION DOLLAR QUESTION for ya’ll ….
If Hillary HAD been picked as Obama’s VP … and …YOU ALL KNEW WHAT WE ALL KNOW ABOUT OBAMA (affiliations, background, lies , dirty etc…) WOULD U STILL VOTE DEMO???????
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Nope.
This was about and beyond Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton.
Ethics, electoral processes, fraud, cheating, misogyny…
tossing a bone, in the form of selecting Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton as VP, would never have been enough for me to overlook the entire fraudulent process.
gostrumcat 11.05.08 at 2:00 am
SouthernGAL68
I don’t believe I’ve had the pleasure of talking to you before, but my answer is “hell no”. I would not have voted for Obama if he’d chosen Hillary as his VP because she should have been the moninee. Period. Not second fiddle. That’s just me.
HiHat 11.05.08 at 2:00 am
We REALLY need a new thread.
MakowashiNatsuko 11.05.08 at 2:00 am
Henri, it is F.L.A not S.L.A lol or better yet I could listen to some Mizer or Nightmare…..and figure out how Hitsugi can get through metal detectors…
SouthernGAL68 11.05.08 at 2:01 am
Ontherocks … Thank you! I am sure that if I ask the every PUMA that same question …. 99.999% would say the same!
justnotright 11.05.08 at 2:01 am
Rush Limbaugh will balme McCain’s moderate demeanor for the loss, but it was George Bush who in the end screwed us all one last time. Way to go Bush. Shmuck.
bodi1313 11.05.08 at 2:02 am
gopumago #1212
As you said Hillary is finished as far as President goes. I would support Sarah Palin in the future. I didn’t agree with everything she stands for, but somehow she was magnificent. She is beautiful, a loving Mother, anda public servant.
What I discovered from this election is that I am not the liberal I thought I was, and I can’t go back to the Democratic party.To the women who put Barack Obama in office and rejected two women for the highest offices in the country; don’t complain about your lot in life. You get what you get.
As I said earlier, I will never listen to a whining feminist again.
Goodnight to you all. You have made my life wonderful these past few months.
jallen0347 11.05.08 at 2:02 am
#1251 SouthJerseyPUMA 11.05.08 at 1:54 am
That was absolutly beautiful….
gostrumcat 11.05.08 at 2:03 am
Nominee not moninee.
turndownobama 11.05.08 at 2:03 am
It’s always been about 3 million Hil’s voting for McCain, ever since the exit polls in the primary elections. Another 4 million planned to stay h
DancesWithPumas 11.05.08 at 2:03 am
WTG Washington!!! (death with dignity)!
Believe No on 8 won (defeating a proposition to define marriage heterosexually).
I hope legalized prostitution wins… boon to sex industry workers.
LeeinUSA 11.05.08 at 2:03 am
Fly your flag upside down for the next 4 years. It’s a call of distress, that we are being attacked!
GoPumaGo 11.05.08 at 2:03 am
I am with Freddie.
freddiebrown 11.05.08 at 1:33 am
I too voted all Repubs and all women !
They need to rebrand the Republican brand. The Democratic brand is so toxic but so attractively packaged and marketed – it is amazing.
Heneri 11.05.08 at 2:04 am
My take on the numbers is this: About half of the PUMA nation voted nothing at the top or third party, and about half voted for McCain. Some people didn’t vote at all. I know two in my circle of friends who sat this one out. I think they will be very very sorry.
BillieJo 11.05.08 at 2:04 am
((((Once again, Dances)))))
jallen0347 11.05.08 at 2:06 am
#1254 ontherocks 11.05.08 at 1:56 am
No I would not have voted for Obama, but there were quite a few of us that declared early on, because when Obama failed we didn’t want Obama to pin it on Hillary…
MakowashiNatsuko 11.05.08 at 2:06 am
I wonder if the Greeks felt this way when the Spratian’s were defeated by the Persians…of course then the Athenian’s kicked the Persians butts…
SouthernGAL68 11.05.08 at 2:06 am
I was in the middle of typing a response to gostrumcat and my computer just threw me off this site…weird
justnotright 11.05.08 at 2:07 am
Good night PUMAs.
I’m going to sit down tonight and handwrite letters to Senator McCain and Governor Palin, thank them for their tireless efforts and for giving me something to feel good about for a while.
I hadn’t been that motivated about a US election before. I’m sorry more Americans did not see things our way.
TerryDo 11.05.08 at 2:07 am
SouthernGAL68 11.05.08 at 1:51 am
Okay! I have a MILLION DOLLAR QUESTION for ya’ll ….
If Hillary HAD been picked as Obama’s VP … and …YOU ALL KNEW WHAT WE ALL KNOW ABOUT OBAMA (affiliations, background, lies , dirty etc…) WOULD U STILL VOTE DEMO???????
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The answer is NO because Pumas did not want her to be vice-president to that loser, so better they would have lost together and then she could have run again for presidency next time.
ontherocks 11.05.08 at 2:07 am
Heneri 11.05.08 at 2:04 am
My take on the numbers is this: About half of the PUMA nation voted nothing at the top or third party, and about half voted for McCain. Some people didn’t vote at all. I know two in my circle of friends who sat this one out. I think they will be very very sorry.
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I think you might be right.
SouthernGAL68 11.05.08 at 2:08 am
Gostrumcat … Sorry (comp. problem) no, we have never met (you know what I mean) Thank you for answering my question.
kat in your hat 11.05.08 at 2:09 am
I’m so excited! Everything free. Whew, man. Cause you KNOW I worked hard picking my wedgies and my nose. Thanks for your paycheck, I deserve it. Oh, and screw Israel. Our singular ally in the region? Who cares.
Let’s bring on this party. Fine by me. I was just voting for American principles. Ah well. GIMME GIMME GIMME.
jallen0347 11.05.08 at 2:09 am
#1274 Heneri 11.05.08 at 2:04 am
Yhea if those who chose not to support and to make their choice, we can not talk them down, because that was our intial agreement
Our common ground was not to support Obama…
BrooklynNY 11.05.08 at 2:09 am
# 1209 freddiebrown 11.05.08 at 1:40 am
We need to market this brand to be an independant watch dog and get more people on board.
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I think we need to build on what we’ve begun with the PUMA movement. I agree we need to be a watchdog group, but also a many-faceted group actively involved in shaping the “change” that everyone agrees the country and the world needs. (Not the Obama style “change” but constructive, life-affirming, positive change that does build on the dreams of the civil right’s movement, the women’s movement, the opportunities not the limitations of modern day economic realities, and all other movements that are striving for a positive change, a more humane, balanced world, etc.
We’ve all agreed that the political system is as corrupt as the day is long and actually uses the people to serve it, rather than the alternative. Also the women’s movement has really turned into a bizarre band of one-trick ponies to a large degee (e.g reproductive rights seem to be their only issue; they’re largely oblivious to sexism, misogyny etc. as we saw in their abandonment of Hillary and Sarah Palin’s bashings and their embrace of the abuser ringleader Obama and his henchmen….)
Maybe we need to have a PUMA convention at some point in the future so we can all meet each other face to face and start strategizing and formalizing concrete long-term ways of moving our concerns forward and focusing all our passions, our collective talents and interests, our frustration and our rage on creating the “change” WE believe in!
freddiebrown 11.05.08 at 2:09 am
SJ Puma – very moving video. Thank you for sharing it.
No one is fighting – just talking and being opinionated.
ontherocks 11.05.08 at 2:10 am
kat in your hat 11.05.08 at 2:09 am
I’m so excited! Everything free. Whew, man. Cause you KNOW I worked hard picking my wedgies and my nose. Thanks for your paycheck, I deserve it. Oh, and screw Israel. Our singular ally in the region? Who cares.
Let’s bring on this party. Fine by me. I was just voting for American principles. Ah well. GIMME GIMME GIMME.
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LMAO, that’s one way to look at this mess.
freddiebrown 11.05.08 at 2:10 am
I am over being a Democrat – we need to question why so many of us were unaware how unacceptable this party has become. How did “our” party get to represent us in such a toxic way.
Why should any of us go back to clinging to the notion of “our Democratic party” like it was a badge of honor.
SouthJerseyPUMA 11.05.08 at 2:10 am
jallen0347 11.05.08 at 2:02 am
#1251 SouthJerseyPUMA 11.05.08 at 1:54 am
That was absolutly beautiful….
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I THOUGHT SO TOO… THANKS… I KNOW MY TEARS WERE AMERICAN TEARS TONIGHT~ AND WE PUMA ARE PATRIOTS… ♥
turndownobama 11.05.08 at 2:10 am
Re ‘death with dignity’:
The state ALREADY had power to prevent people from assisting suicide. Now the state has given up some of that power, making the people more free to choose for themselves.
MakowashiNatsuko 11.05.08 at 2:10 am
Henri, I think you are right on the numbers. It only make sense…and finally the cheering have stopped…of course it is out in the 50′s right now. Perhaps all the valley people got to cold and went inside….
BillieJo 11.05.08 at 2:11 am
Tonight I was at a friends house listening to the results, missing the blog………..they asked me what would happen with the PUMAs. I said, I didn’t know now that the squirrel has won, it would be an undaunting task to correct what had happened, especially with the media in the tank. They are both not PUMAs but should be and they kept saying, you guys have to stay together, you have done so much to help already.
Then I am excited to come home and get on the blog and I see a few people making the pain of this loss worse. WTF is up with that?
Blaming PUMAs for not voting correctly, how dare you!
Maybe our numbers are not that big……….did you just fly in from some other planet?
SouthernGAL68 11.05.08 at 2:11 am
Justnotright – I think that is a great idea. Why don’t we (puma) put together something??
sandipuma 11.05.08 at 2:11 am
#1212 GopumaGo i feel the same way as you.I do blame some of Obumbus’s win on Hillary. I do not feel the same way about her anymore.I went to the Mccain ralley last night and it was great. There were a lot of pumas there. Also saturday at the Mccain headquarters i met a lady named Jan who was running Mccains phone bank and she was a puma.I feel that with all the fraud and corruption that was the only way Obumbus won.So actually he never did win.If cheating is winning then Obumbus is a loser.I’m hurt and disgusted and tired.But as far as i’m concerned he is not MY president and i never have to look at him or ever listen to him talk.
Heneri 11.05.08 at 2:12 am
justnotright:
WE are the ones who can change the world. Our mission is honorable and pure. We believe in the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. We believe in one person, one vote. We believe in liberty and justice for all. We believe in the promise of America and American Citizenship.
Many times in our history we have seen evil people rise up and try to destroy that concept. All have eventually failed. Out of the ashes of the failures new leaders and determined people with them rise up and continue on. PUMA is just the latest of these pure and determined people. Freedom advocates and determined fighters. Last century and the end of the one before, it was the sufferagettes. This time the task falls to us.
We need a new and more perfect party. If we build it, they (the good ones) will come! Our task is to build that new party.
NoHillaryNoVote 11.05.08 at 2:13 am
hebrew.que. 11.05.08 at 1:12 am
I am upset with all the voters who didn’t research the facts, who were persuaded by the hype, influenced by the bias media, and the voters who voted for a candidate purely on race.
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Exactly! We don’t need to use this blog to point fingers at other PUMA members or to second-guess ourselves as to what we should’ve, could’ve, etc. Instead there are millions of people in this country who voted and who fit the criteria you listed above. Those are the ones who elected the guy, not PUMAs.
We PUMAs are the ones who worked so hard NOT to elect Obama – so let’s recognize all the hours we invested to that goal. Without PUMAs I’m sure the #s for McCain-Palin would have been less. At least going into office Obama & the DNC gang know that there are plenty of folks who did not support them. Without PUMAs Obama might have managed a landslide and that would be a much worse scenario.
gostrumcat 11.05.08 at 2:13 am
No problem SouthernGAL, my computer is slowing down after all day’s activity too. Good night all.
mountainsong 11.05.08 at 2:13 am
KarenWI Less than 6 months, Karen> Israel has to strike while Bush is still in office. So it will be in the next 2 1/2 months. I think it will be a strike on Iran WITH US support. Between now and Christmas.
ontherocks 11.05.08 at 2:13 am
This puma is not going anywhere. I am only voting on the isues that effect this country. Both parties can go to hell.
I joined puma becuase of how Hillary was treated. I don’t anymore women going through this again.
Voter fraud is a real issue and it needs to addressed. The whole election process is screwed up. Let the democrats have their fun for now. Karma is a bitch!
mountainsong 11.05.08 at 2:14 am
It’s going to get much, much uglier.
tennaseepuma 11.05.08 at 2:14 am
Southerngal……..no way!
SouthJerseyPuma, I did not cry til I saw your teamSarah page then I cried and I have not stopped yet,my tears are for America and pumas and truth and my kids and my granchildren………..
mountainsong 11.05.08 at 2:15 am
Both parties are the two sides to the same coin. We just fall for the illusion that there’s a difference.
RememberNovember 11.05.08 at 2:15 am
BillieJo – I expect we all have FBI files already, or will have in the near future!
Does anyone know how Prop 8 is doing in CA? And CindySheehan/Pelosi?
Well pumas I am going to call it a night – may lurk for awhile and then go imagine sitting on a warm sunny beach in Belize sipping a large Pina Colada. Wish we could all take off for a month and go check it out, take time to grieve, to refresh and plan our next actions – in secret. Just think, we have accomplished so much, in such a short time, with limited resources and in full view of the anyone who cared to read the blog. So no regrets. Pretty amazing really.
Sweet dreams pumas. Sending a huge hug to you all
jallen0347 11.05.08 at 2:15 am
#1285 BrooklynNY 11.05.08 at 2:09 am
# 1209 freddiebrown 11.05.08 at 1:40 am
I think We have come so far and to accept anything less would
unjust… I know that I have focused on this election more than any other election in my life time…. AND the PUMA PAC has inspired that…AND to discount any part of that is unexceptable…
MakowashiNatsuko 11.05.08 at 2:16 am
Yes, we need a new party. Our movement for a new party is like that of many that have developed in American’s history. (I’m not that of an American historian but I see all the signs pointing toward a new party) we NEED a new party so that our children, and their childrens, children can have a nation that is strong and free.
BillieJo 11.05.08 at 2:17 am
freddiebrown
I am over being a Democrat – we need to question why so many of us were unaware how unacceptable this party has become. How did “our” party get to represent us in such a toxic way.
Why should any of us go back to clinging to the notion of “our Democratic party” like it was a badge of honor.
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freddie, it’s a question alright. Have the Democrats been this corrupt all along, or is this just a group of people like, Pelosi, Howie, Obie, Donna and the other thugs in the DNC that were in the top of the pile that started stinking the apples in the heap? I am sure with all politics there is corruption, but we need to be wiser and not take as much for granted as before. Sorry if I still think lots of Repubs are untrustworthy, but I am getting better at trusting few and honoring even fewer. I don’t trust the Repubs in office, why would I. The Iraq war was a scam, so I will not jump into trusting them without finding the goods ones. I know some good Democrats and I agree with what they stood for.
mountainsong 11.05.08 at 2:17 am
Hide yourself well, Murphy. Stay low for awhil;e until you can be reasonably sure it’s safe. Do as some of us other and take a page from the undergound manual.
ontherocks 11.05.08 at 2:17 am
It has been a long day pumas. I am so proud of all of you. No matter what happens next, if we stick together and regroup we can do great things.
See everyone tomorrow!
Sweet dreams!!
sandipuma 11.05.08 at 2:18 am
If PUMAS stay together i will stay to. I will get more active again and fight for our freedom of speech. Womens rights,whatever needs to be done. Get rid of Pelosi and Reid.Well Howie too.From what i saw this past week in Vegas there are way more PUMAS than i thought there were here.
freddiebrown 11.05.08 at 2:18 am
Brooklyn – we need to KIV (keep in View) this idea and keep putting it out there. Because, before you know it, we will be up against this again and we need to be ready .
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We need to market this brand to be an independant watch dog and get more people on board.
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I think we need to build on what we’ve begun with the PUMA movement. I agree we need to be a watchdog group, but also a many-faceted group actively involved in shaping the “change” that everyone agrees the country and the world needs. (Not the Obama style “change” but constructive, life-affirming, positive change that does build on the dreams of the civil right’s movement, the women’s movement, the opportunities not the limitations of modern day economic realities, and all other movements that are striving for a positive change, a more humane, balanced world, etc.
We’ve all agreed that the political system is as corrupt as the day is long and actually uses the people to serve it, rather than the alternative. Also the women’s movement has really turned into a bizarre band of one-trick ponies to a large degee (e.g reproductive rights seem to be their only issue; they’re largely oblivious to sexism, misogyny etc. as we saw in their abandonment of Hillary and Sarah Palin’s bashings and their embrace of the abuser ringleader Obama and his henchmen….)
Maybe we need to have a PUMA convention at some point in the future so we can all meet each other face to face and start strategizing and formalizing concrete long-term ways of moving our concerns forward and focusing all our passions, our collective talents and interests, our frustration and our rage on creating the “change” WE believe in!
mountainsong 11.05.08 at 2:18 am
mountainsong is singing a new song in other mountains.
jallen0347 11.05.08 at 2:19 am
#1303 RememberNovember 11.05.08 at 2:15 am
Well we just might have to revert to the snail mail,
now that Obama ensured he had the right to ease
drop on our phone calls via FISA…
SouthernGAL68 11.05.08 at 2:19 am
I have also had everyone from friends to people I work with ask me tonight … Well are the PUMAS over now, since the election is over? I told them … HELL NO, WE ARE JUST GETTING STARTED!
MakowashiNatsuko 11.05.08 at 2:19 am
*gets out shinobi outfit, and sunglasses* I’m sure I can stay quiet…no one knew who I voted for. I tend to be a hermit….but yes let us all be safe.
tennaseepuma 11.05.08 at 2:20 am
goodnite pumas,stay safe.
Xtine000 11.05.08 at 2:20 am
Ok, #1212-
But what would have happened to Hillary if she HADN’T done that? Now she supported the incumbant president, so she will probably be able to get more accomplished. And public perception of her will be positive(God help us). Perhaps she smelled what was up and took the appropriate steps to preserve her effectiveness. Can’t blame her after she’s worked her whole life to get where she is. It’s a politician’s job to be effective, or else they are an empty talking head- right? It’s a dirty business.
TerryDo 11.05.08 at 2:20 am
#1180 Freddiebrown… I am strangely, sadly calm tonight.
I have the same feeling, it is as though I am sad that John McCain lost but strangely calm because now the responsibility is on Obama,and not McCain; and we all know Obama is going to fail. As least that is how I interpret my melancholy.
SouthernGAL68 11.05.08 at 2:21 am
you too -tennasee
BillieJo 11.05.08 at 2:21 am
mountainsong
It’s going to get much, much uglier.
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Yup. Starting tomorrow when I have to work with Obots that are all going to look at me like they won the war. Ugh, I want to call in sick.
sandipuma 11.05.08 at 2:21 am
The Undemocratic Party is corrupt and the party of hate.They all have showed their true colors and it’s not pretty.
Heneri 11.05.08 at 2:21 am
This election has been nation changing, but not the way Obama thinks it is.
This time we discovered that there was no democracy in the democratic party. This time we were forced to found a new party. It will take time to come together, but it will come togehter.
This time we found out that the civil rights movement has an evil twin called liberation theology. We won’t make the mistake of thinking all civil rights advocates are really seeking equality.
This time we discovered that the strongest and most diligent feminist was Sarah Palin, a conservative woman and dedicated mother. This will allow us to welcome into the feminist circle a multitude of her supporters. We will need them.
This time we discovered our centers. The center of the concept of democracy, the center of our political arena, and the center of our committment to living the real American Dream.
I think a lot of us discovered ourselves.
kat in your hat 11.05.08 at 2:21 am
ontherocks: Oh hell yeah. I am excited. Christmas all year baby. I’m a struggler. I deserve all the gifts.
Has nothing to do with my choices or chance or my will.
I DESERVE IT I deserve your loot!
Gimmmeeeeeeeeeeee.
lol.
Feeling disgruntled deserves me money. You know that right? I deserve about 3 bucks from each of your paychecks because I was lazy. Weird sentence right? Get used to it being politically correct, to say: I TRIED working. Doesn’t work. You owe me.
lol. LOL indeed.
storytellers 11.05.08 at 2:23 am
sad morning¡¡¡¡¡, pumas
ozgal 11.05.08 at 2:23 am
I’m wondering how Hillary feels about all this..she sold out and now her chances are over…I used to wonder about the feminist criticisms of her when she “stood by Bill” over the monica thing..after all, she purportedly loved him.. so I gave the benefit of the doubt… now she has set an undeniable pattern…Stand By Your Man…she surely did…once again.. only this time her man was Obama.. I am ashamed of her now and I feel like a fool for ever having supported her…she is just a political sell out…
BillieJo 11.05.08 at 2:23 am
Xtine000 11.05.08 at 2:20 am
Ok, #1212-
But what would have happened to Hillary if she HADN’T done that? Now she supported the incumbant president, so she will probably be able to get more accomplished. And public perception of her will be positive(God help us). Perhaps she smelled what was up and took the appropriate steps to preserve her effectiveness. Can’t blame her after she’s worked her whole life to get where she is. It’s a politician’s job to be effective, or else they are an empty talking head- right? It’s a dirty business.
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I agree. I don’t want Hillary on an island like Liberman. Without Hillary and Bill and McCain, the thugs would have more power.
TerryDo 11.05.08 at 2:23 am
mountainsong 11.05.08 at 2:18 am
mountainsong is singing a new song in other mountains.
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In that case mountainsong, can we tell other Pumas that
she’ll be coming round a mountain when she comes…
SouthernGAL68 11.05.08 at 2:24 am
Xtine — you could be right! I heard that to stay in the “political loop” under an Obama pres….you had to have supported him! Someone told me that one of his first missions will be … to purge the Demo of ALL MODERATES
MakowashiNatsuko 11.05.08 at 2:25 am
I really am scared what is going to happen to us PUMA’S when the Jester gets into office…that is IF he makes it to that point. Hell I’m scared what will happen if people find out who we really are.
kat in your hat 11.05.08 at 2:25 am
You know it’s gross when Ayers, Dorhn, Farrakhan, Pfleger, et al are thrilled.
Believe me. These people do not want to meet me. My blood is cold as ice as far as this.
(I would straight up curse them out.)
HiHat 11.05.08 at 2:25 am
The great irony is that the media kept harping about how McCain’s supporters were “low information”, but I’ve found the EXACT OPPOSITE to be true.
I have not met one O-bot who has even one-tenth of the knowledge about their own guy, his positions, his history, his associations, than most Pumas do.
So, the “low information” voters did in fact decide this election.
Irony.
Xtine000 11.05.08 at 2:26 am
Well think of it this way, Murphy…we all found each other here. If the numbers stated earlier are correct, there are 3 million of us. That’s no small number. We are together and are a powerful force(and who is to say that the election numbers weren’t fudged in part as well??? We may have been very effective but the books could be cooked, you know?).
You’re on you way, you have a Party now- or at least a sub-party. What would you call PUMA? We’re not going anywhere, right? And we’ll need each other during the coming (probably disasterous) months. So…in that, we have been successful. Let’s just put our shoulders to the wheel and keep working!
BrooklynNY 11.05.08 at 2:26 am
#1295 Heneri 11.05.08 at 2:12 am
You’re the voice of rationality and hope tonight. I thank you for your remarks. They are helping to ease the immense disappointment I’m feeling at the moment and they offer inspiration, perspective and hope.
You are right. There is a lot of work to be done, but we wouldn’t be the first ones, nor will we be the last, that are confronted with such dire challenges.
DancesWithPumas 11.05.08 at 2:27 am
Enough with the Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton bashing…
she’s a PUMA. So it’s against the rules to bash her.
TerryDo 11.05.08 at 2:29 am
Goodnight/morning Pumas pleasant dreams and God Bless America!
Heneri 11.05.08 at 2:30 am
All of the Oamaites will cheer for a while, then reality will set in. They will have to come to the understanding that nothing he promised will come to pass. Of course he really didn’t promise anything specific, did he? Just hope and change………….so when that pie in the sky does not come down and sit on their table, they will throw him out like last week’s trash. Remember how they turned on Bill and Hill when they didn’t get health care through?
It appears the senate did not achieve a fillibuster proof majority. This means the Rs can stop virtually anything. And they will. What we will have for a time is gridlock. Maybe I want gridlock.
SouthernGAL68 11.05.08 at 2:30 am
Goodnight terryDo
sandipuma 11.05.08 at 2:31 am
I will not make up excuses for Hillary.Maybe this or maybe that.She is a senator and she did not have to play Obumbus’s game.No matter what. Many other senators didn’t.I am tired of all that went on and how hard everyone faught.I used to be on here so much and would worry myself sick. I then became way to sick over all of this that i knew i had to cool my jets.I have met so many wonderful pumas in here and have allways felt blessed. When i went to Denver i was so excited and met so many in person. I have memories i will never forget.I have new freinds from puma that i talk to allmost everyday.God is good.
gumbykat 11.05.08 at 2:32 am
This is posted on gretawire
From: Chernenkoff, Kelly
To:
Sent: Wed Nov 05 00:18:17 2008
Subject: Urgent: hundreds convene in front of WH
Live on rem 217: Hundreds are gathered in front of the WH right now chanting “nah nah nah nah. Hey hey hey goodbye” and “yes we can”. Packed very tightly with more pouring in by the second. Obama masks and chants of “usa! Usa!” as Obama is speaking and the crowd is likely unaware. I have only seen college-age students so far. Rain is beginning to come down as crowd is only getting louder.
SouthernGAL68 11.05.08 at 2:33 am
I have a feeling that by the time am BO term is up …gridlocks will be our best friends! Ha!
freddiebrown 11.05.08 at 2:33 am
Was it my imagination or did the crowd in Chicago look like mostly younger folks ? I didn’t stick around to watch it just saw for a brief moment, hardly any seniors. Maybe it was just a Chicago thing.
Ario 11.05.08 at 2:34 am
well now that im off the 24 hour news cycle…i think i have settled into reality shows…watching scream queens now:)
MakowashiNatsuko 11.05.08 at 2:34 am
Have to say this…when the GOP loses they are SORE losers and won’t let anything that a D presents get through…they play dirty people…Mccain might not have done so but the rest of his part does….think of the GOP as Samurai….they go in for the kill…and they will take their enemy apart limb, by limb if they have to…lets just watch as the house of cards fall people…sit back, try to relax, and enjoy as the Jester melts down into a puddle of goo.
Ario 11.05.08 at 2:36 am
what are they doin in front of the white house?
SouthernGAL68 11.05.08 at 2:36 am
Grumpykat … lets see what they are chanting after 4 years with BO (thats if BO makes it 4 years)
DancesWithPumas 11.05.08 at 2:37 am
gumbykat
wait until the prick drafts their puny little asses…LOL
BrooklynNY 11.05.08 at 2:37 am
freddiebrown 11.05.08 at 2:18 am
Brooklyn – we need to KIV (keep in View) this idea and keep putting it out there. Because, before you know it, we will be up against this again and we need to be ready .
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Absolutely, Freddie! We do. I am committed to it. Hopefully, not only will all the existing PUMA members remain but many others will join with us in the coming days, weeks and months. There is so much to do and we have established a base and a structure from which to do it. The skeleton is in place.
DancesWithPumas 11.05.08 at 2:39 am
SouthernGAL68
You don;t think he’ll make it for four years?
Oh. Too bad, so sad.
How about them Mets?!
MakowashiNatsuko 11.05.08 at 2:39 am
OK College students are kind of scary and insane people. (I am one so I should know) do not get to close for they WILL bite.
They are only doing this because they think that it is cool and hip to cheer for a nice sweet new young thing…bah I say! Bah to it all! If their not careful they might get arrested…
Where are the 18-21 year olds that are like me…who have a BRAIN and don’t buy into the fades of the new age…where are they? Tell me am I the only one out there or are their others my age who feel like they have been cheated and raped?
Never_Give_Up_ 11.05.08 at 2:39 am
Hi there, PUMA’s…you’re still up, also. I can’t sleep. Been crying for hours. (and angry in between.). I’m a conservative who so appreciated to see the love of country you have displayed. Country over party.
And, still, we didn’t win.
The hypnotized and blinded masses won.
So, we have to regroup and hopefully continue to work together and not give up. ‘Faithless is he who quits when the road darkens.’
SouthernGAL68 11.05.08 at 2:40 am
Freddie – my friends who watched told me that the crowds looked younger and white. Just like the buyers of RAP music … young, suburb. white kids!
Libby 11.05.08 at 2:40 am
Hillary burnt her bridges. The only people who could have correctly interpreted silent signals from her and Bill have been cut off.
We are on our own and that is not a bad thing. Hillary made her stand and will have to live with the long term effect…she totally ended her chances to run ever.
We are not done. We have just begun.
HiHat 11.05.08 at 2:41 am
Yes, most of the crowd at the coronation was young. A few older folks (ex-hippies, looked like) were sprinkled in, and of course Oprah was there, Yippee!, but it was mostly Romper Room.
That’s his base. They adore him! He’s cool, he’s hip, he’s black, he’s just so, so…(nothing substanitive, nothing real, nothing honorable, nothing decent) just so…
To them, he’s a celebrity. And, in America, we do love us some famous people. Famous for being famous.
Xtine000 11.05.08 at 2:41 am
Thanks, Henri! You know, I’m in Brooklyn too:).
I wouldn’t be surprised at all if the books were cooked- why not? That’s BO’s specialty, right?
Let’s focus on 2012 and another possible run from Hillary, when BO’s amorphous policies have resulted in bumbling, idiocy and chaos. And educating the American people about what is really happening- the average person won’t really understand why their lives got a lot worse instead of the pie-in-the-sky promised.
If we’re wrong, and BO turns out to be a fabulous leader and brings on a new wave of prosperity and hope- then we’ll be the first to apoligise. But if things turn out like we thought…well, we’ll be watchdogs to break new stories, etc.
I rather suspect, from the behavior BO displayed while achieving the Presidency, that we will NOT like what goes on, and it will NOT be a new wave of prosperity and hope. But as I said before, if I am wrong, I will be the first to apoligise.
Heneri 11.05.08 at 2:42 am
Thank your for your kind words, Brooklyn. You are also the voice of calm. That is very comforting.
I assume from your title, that you are in NY. I am in Indiana. There are others, nationwide, who are in this huge network of people doing good things.
This is just a little set back. The work we are doing is more important than anything we have ever done in our lives. Ask my daughter, we have done some very important things together. Looks like the battle for goodness and light will continue on a long, long, time.
There is a Yiddish legand about a rightous 39. It is believed that at any given time, around the world, there is a minimum of 39 truly rightous people. The world will continue to exist because these people do good deeds for all humanity. They don’t stop and think, they just continue to make the world a better place. In doing so they inspire less perfect people to join them in enough goodness that the world is saved.
I would like to think that PUMA is populated with a few of the rightous 39.
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BrooklynNY 11.05.08 at 2:26 am
#1295 Heneri 11.05.08 at 2:12 am
You’re the voice of rationality and hope tonight. I thank you for your remarks. They are helping to ease the immense disappointment I’m feeling at the moment and they offer inspiration, perspective and hope.
You are right. There is a lot of work to be done, but we wouldn’t be the first ones, nor will we be the last, that are confronted with such dire challenges.
SouthernGAL68 11.05.08 at 2:42 am
Danceswithpumas – lol – yea! How bout them mets??
MakowashiNatsuko 11.05.08 at 2:43 am
SouthernGAL68
I hate how my age group who are white try to be black…I hate rap music and hip-hop…I don’t see it as music. It’s nothing but a beat…and so I am considered to be the strange one out there who still listens to GOOD music…
Anyway white people buy in trying to get into the fades…it’s kind of sad because people want to buy in and be cool and popular…I thought that stopped at high school…why are we in a nation that buys into all the crap…and all the shit that is going on.
And the chanting of Obama has started again here at the Csun student housing…I hope they stop soon or cops will be called due to me I do have class in the morning.
SouthernGAL68 11.05.08 at 2:46 am
Yea, but the great thing is this … those kids (who helped to get BO elected) who also see him aa cool, fresh hip etc… will NOT remember his name in 6 months
Lady Like 11.05.08 at 2:46 am
Freddiebrown…you are right….Now that the election is over I am supporting Another party officially Independent or Republican. I worked with them for McCain….not the “bad guys I assumed all my political life”…
Thank you freddie for saying to hold our heads high…We did our best to get the message out! That made me feel better.
I still feel HRC was the most qualified to lead our nation, however I am closing the chapter on her today. Besides all the excuses I have made for why she HAD to support Obama, or CHOSE to support him….my mind CANNOT comprehend the relationship that has transpired between her and his campaign over the past several months. She helped to put the nail in the coffin that sealed the deal (plus Fraud), to allow him to win. Maybe one day someone will offer a good explanation that makes sense to me.
She will not run in 2012….she chose not to fight in 2008…she chose to do her best to help campaign with BO, despite her feelings towards him.
The PAGE has been turned on HRC, in my book. I wish her God Speed in her endeavors, and I will NEVER invest my emotions and time the way I did to any political candidate ever again. Especially when their words are so transparent!
monap 11.05.08 at 2:46 am
Tonight reminded me of the movie The Candidate – when Robert Redford wins the election he turns to his campaign manager and asks “now what” – he has no idea what to do next.
Hey whomever won this election is stuck with the biggest mess in American history – I hope BO proves us all wrong but I really don’t think so- at least we can all say “don’t blame me – I didn’t vote for the guy.” Now they can’t blame the women for the mess – and you know Sarah somehow would have been blamed as Hillary would have been blamed if BO lost. But then how could he lose – he probably won this the way he “won” the primaries/caucuses. Wonder who my dead mother voted for?
BrooklynNY 11.05.08 at 2:47 am
HiHat 11.05.08 at 2:41 am
Yeah, and maybe 4 years with the newest, coolest, hippest dude they ever imagined in the White House will permanently cure them of their love of fluff. Experience/Reality is a tough teacher. Life lessons learned the hard way, I guess. Maybe the only way to get through to the people who were so easily seduced, sadly.
NoHillaryNoVote 11.05.08 at 2:47 am
exDemMcvoter 11.05.08 at 12:45 am
#782 NoHillNoVote…Read that post all!! She’s got the exact right idea about what needs to be done!
Basically, it will result in a massive education for all Americans. A major hurdle and obstacle to what NoHill suggests is the media. Will they report?
A first step is to make sure that the Dems can’t get rid of Talk Radio. It Is On Their Hit List.
And there are way way too many Dems in Congress now.
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Thanks for reading my post. I’m with you!
We can start studying what legislative bills are on the table and determine which ones to bring into a spotlight for more national scrutiny.
We can start examining the records of Dems in the house & senate as well as monitor how they vote in 2008 in order to determine who to give a thumbs up (or a thumbs down).
And absolutely we need to go after the media with our full PUMA Power. Below is part of a previous post I wrote about the media agenda – for me that’s a high priority.
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Repost #254 NoHillaryNoVote 11.01.08 at 8:06 am
… when the election ends – the attention regarding the media bias story cannot end!!! There must be a backlash & outcry from the public to let media know Wrong – Wrong – Wrong!!!
When this election is over, I hope the mainstream media gets their hands smacked big-time for the Obama media bias.
Anyone running against Obama received negative media coverage – first Hillary then McCain-Palin.
Two studies have documented the bias, so the media can’t say it isn’t true. …
When this election ends, this part of the story (media bias) cannot be simply put aside. The media cannot be allowed to just get a free ride as if what they did was correct – especially regarding how the media attacked the women candidates (both Hillary C & Sarah P). …
kat in your hat 11.05.08 at 2:47 am
Oh, and isn’t it hilarious that the whole Obama family wore red and black. HAH
MakowashiNatsuko 11.05.08 at 2:49 am
Lol yes sad but true….we must remember the fades DO fade after awhile. Thank GOD for that…I’m starting to think I’m the only 21 year old besides my best friend who has a brain.
I haven’t been brainwashed! Thank GOD for that! So…why is it that all the others around me have been? I don’t understand this…oh my god I’ve turned into an old ‘fart’ at the age of 21! *runs around screaming in fear of this*
Sorry people get a laugh at this…this is stage of my sadness: cry, depression, anger, humor…then depression and not eating well for a month.
GoPumaGo 11.05.08 at 2:50 am
I think we are using PUMA in 2 different ways.
1. PUMA like us who are active on the internet and in the election.
2. PUMA who voted for Hillary but were not active and did not get the full message and full information on the election and probably tended to remain Democratic and probably voted for Obama.
I feel that 1. did not get the full message to 2. and educate 2. better. It would have been extremely expensive to contact all the other 18 million PUMA.
But in a certain way I get this feeling we did not go out and actively recruit those who voted for Hillary. We were sort of Passive as we waited for PUMA to find us on the internet.
Of course a major problem was that MSM did not give us any coverage. Many people probably never learned we exist and are so easy to find.
Anyway, I am not blaming anyone. I am trying to hold myself accountable for not organizing myself better. I am only trying to analyze the present situation so that we can do better in the future.
However, the brand of looking only for people who are Democrats for Hillary is now over. That label is going to become old very quickly. We now have to open up to everyone who will work on our new direction.
As someone above said. Womens rights are more then on reproduction. I would like to see a more comprehensive agenda supporting womens rights in all forms. We can work towards true equality for all women in all aspects of society. We need to get all women on board our express train. We have over half the votes. We can become a very powerful force. we need to unite women instead of watching to many women undermine their own future by attacking other women instead of having a united unity. We can be the force that helps unite women to work together for the future of women in the entire world. But first step is to unite the American women into a strong force.
HiHat 11.05.08 at 2:50 am
Mako,
Hangh in there, young lady. You sound like you have a good head on your shoulders. Don’t bother about your peers. Listen to YOUR music, read YOUR books, and always hold your head up.
Fitting-in is not only over-rated, it’s often dangerous.
Rebel. And roar like a Puma.
Heneri 11.05.08 at 2:51 am
I have to work tomorrow, or should I say, later today?
Good night all. I hope I am sufficiently tired so I can sleep. My dogs will have me back up at 7. They are more accurate than an alarm clock!
DancesWithPumas 11.05.08 at 2:52 am
Kat…
you worked your ass off for a long, long time… you earned the right to stop biting your tongue…. let it out!
SouthernGAL68 11.05.08 at 2:53 am
MakowashiNatsuko,
It is sad because now WE (Americans) will pay for their mistakes. ( I am NOT saying that the kids are the only ones who put BO into office, but they did not help) I have spoken to alot of younger folks who were NOT voting for BO, but I also live in the south. I am sorry that you are having to listen to them chant BO’s name all night. I just want to say … thank you for not following the “herd” and sticking to your guns!
NoHillaryNoVote 11.05.08 at 2:55 am
How will Obama handle things when he is under such total scrutiny by the media and the public as President? Should be very entertaining to watch. He won’t be able to “act” presidential any more – he will have to “be” a president which I don’t think he can do.
He’s been able to deflect attention from himself with his flowery speeches for so long; and the media has spent all their energy focusing negative light on Obama’s opponents. But once he’s in office then all those supporters will be looking for him to deliver on all the many promises he made to them – and I have a feeling that the flowery speeches will grow old after a few months.
I will enjoy watching him struggle when the honeymoon ends and he’s no longer the media darling. He won’t know what to do when every word & action of his cabinet (and himself) are actually dissected and scrutinized.
How long will it take before all those pundits who loved him during the primary & election — turn on him? He’s so used to only hearing good things about himself in the media, and I have a feeling he is going to receive a real culture shock sometime in 2009.
BrianH 11.05.08 at 2:55 am
JR Dogman;
Even if Berg is on the up-and-up, there is a competence problem. That is, his lack thereof. He’s way outclassed.
BillieJo;
When the Obots look at you funny, or gloat, say to them, “You are about to discover the true meaning of, ‘Be careful what you ask for; you may get it!‘”
kat in your hat 11.05.08 at 2:57 am
Straight from Drudge:
Israel launches first airstrike on Gaza since June…
Hamas fires over 35 rockets towards Israel…
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And you THINK I didn’t know that would happen? pfffffffft.
MakowashiNatsuko 11.05.08 at 2:58 am
HiHat
Thanks for saying that. As I have told my mother (Henri as you know her here) I am one of the few of a dying breed. One that has a good head on their shoulders, who does not go along with the crowd, and is a self-claiming punk.
I think that today’s youth have been brain washed into thinking that WE have to follow a certain guide lines because if we don’t then WE won’t fit into the world outside of school. That is bull crap and everyone knows it.
The people out there that get the furthest are those who be themselves and are not shallow shells who only try to please other people. That is NOT being yourself that is being something fake and artificle.
We as American’s have become a shame culture where we do not try to please ourselves but others around us. And this is what Obama is. He is part of that shame culture that we now have. This world has become the world of fast food and plastic.
Nothing seems to be real anymore and those who are real are the ones that get punished for being different from the rest of the pack. I am sick and tired of that and I want a change in how the world works. It is NOT suppose to be this way.
BrianH 11.05.08 at 2:59 am
MakowashiNatsuko 11.05.08 at 2:34 am
Have to say this…when the GOP loses they are SORE losers and won’t let anything that a D presents get through…they play dirty people…Mccain might not have done so but the rest of his part does….think of the GOP as Samurai….they go in for the kill…and they will take their enemy apart limb, by limb if they have to…lets just watch as the house of cards fall people…sit back, try to relax, and enjoy as the Jester melts down into a puddle of goo.//
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From your keyboard to God’s eyes.
HiHat 11.05.08 at 3:00 am
Kat #1371
Thanks, Senator Obama (I refuse to call him Mr. President)
Your victory just lit a new spark in the Middle East.
kat in your hat 11.05.08 at 3:01 am
@# 1369
“How will Obama handle things when he is under such total scrutiny by the media and the public as President?”
Obama will be COMPLETELY protected by the media. Just like Bush was in the beginning. The media will not change. It’s a nightmare. Obama will have full freedom to screw us.
NativeFlower 11.05.08 at 3:01 am
i can’t wait til the Kool-Aid hangover sets in and people will come to see that not one man or woman has the power to so completely change their lives that they “don’t have to worry about putting gas in their car” -to quote the BObot I saw on tv (FOX was calling her “Debra (?) the moocher”)
it will be a slow painful growth period of realization for these maroons to understand that a president can’t pay your rent, pay your bills, improve your relationships, hold your hand and protect you from life’s challenges and losses. Someday these fanatical idealists will learn that at the end of the day, it’s all comes down to Personal Responsibility. In the meantime they will continue to live the delusional fairy tale that Barry will be able to suddenly “change” every unpleasant aspect of life in an ever evolving world. Someday, perhaps the misguided will to find learn strength from within and from a Higher Power…. rather than from a man behind a podium and inside the tv box.
SouthernGAL68 11.05.08 at 3:01 am
Well my fellow pumas … It has been a long day! I have to call it a night.
Just remember to hold you heads high – you are great Americans!
kat in your hat 11.05.08 at 3:03 am
HiHat:
“Your victory just lit a new spark in the Middle East.”
My victory? hah. My fake us celebration, what?
BrianH 11.05.08 at 3:03 am
Now we get to see if the FEC is worth the price of the paper it shuffles. Bets, anyone?
kat in your hat 11.05.08 at 3:04 am
@ 1378
My fake ASS* celebration..
BrooklynNY 11.05.08 at 3:04 am
Goodnight Heneri….
I have no doubt that many 39′s will emerge in the months ahead. That is a lovely thought. I have total faith in it.
kat in your hat 11.05.08 at 3:07 am
G’night pumas. I know a lot about Obama, but I gotta have a heart and send out my prayers to conservatives, some of them might really be scared to death.
K, g’night.
storytellers 11.05.08 at 3:09 am
Al Jezeera
the arab tv, voice of muslem brotherhooh, is extremly happy for the change
HiHat 11.05.08 at 3:11 am
Kat @1378 & 1380
I knew that “us” was an “ass”. Some of us, anyway.
HiHat 11.05.08 at 3:12 am
Night, Kat.
NoHillaryNoVote 11.05.08 at 3:14 am
Seattlegirl 11.04.08 at 11:49 pm
NoHillaryNoVote : I am with you 100%. It would have been easier to fight the corruption if the Dems had lost but they didn’t. But hey we are tough and we don’t need an easy fight. Bring it on.
Really I am sure we can sit back and watch this gang of Dems disillusion their own naive followers, we don’t have to make their disillusionment happen.
hillstheone 11.04.08 at 11:53 pm
#782, NoHillaryNoVote 11.04.08 at 11:42 pm
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Right on!
There’s got to be some way we can push for a full, independent investigation into the Primaries and the DNC leadership.
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Seattlegirl & hillstheone
Glad to see we are on the same page. This is not over. The way I see it, elections are simply the big public events of PUMA world. There are lots of other items on the PUMA agenda to pursue.
storytellers 11.05.08 at 3:16 am
what is going to happen with the berg case?
what is going to happen with all BC , IS HE A NATURAL BORN?
WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN WITH HIS HIDDEN CVR?
HiHat 11.05.08 at 3:19 am
Well, Pumas, it’s been a long night. And we have a looong 4 fours ahead. Time to rest up, get up, and continue to fight the good fight.
If we were wrong, I don’t want to be right.
Until Tomorrow…
Hat
PS – Murphy, I hope you’re doing well. We are still with you.
storytellers 11.05.08 at 3:22 am
FORGET ABOUT ANY OTHER REPUBLICAN PRESIDENT IN USA
MakowashiNatsuko 11.05.08 at 3:24 am
This Rurouni Puma has to go. I’m going to decide if I want to go to french or not tomorrow. I will make that choice in the morning and ignore the idiots.
To all good night. And remember…we have lost the battle but the war is FAR from over.
PUMA PACK FOREVER! LET OUR VOICE RING OUT AND BE HEARD! WE ARE THE FUTURE OF THIS COUNTRY! LET US RAISE OUR PAWS AND BANNERS HIGH AND NOT FORGET WHAT WE FIGHT FOR! WE ARE PUMA PACK AND HEAR US ROAR!
NativeFlower 11.05.08 at 3:29 am
i dig on “the 39s” belief as well… Judaism is soooo beautiful
g’nite wonderful people
((((((((( sleep well ))))))))))
BrooklynNY 11.05.08 at 3:31 am
Goodnight PUMA NATION.
Tomorrow is another day. PUMA NATION is here to stay. And we have lots of work to do.
sandipuma 11.05.08 at 3:43 am
My Puma Prayer,
Dear Lord, I thank You for this day, I thank You for my being able to see and to hear this morning.
I’m blessed because You are a forgiving God and an understanding God. You have done so much for me and You keep on blessing me. Forgive me this day for everything I have done, said or thought that was not pleasing to you.
I ask now for Your forgiveness. Please keep me and my Puma family safe from all danger and harm. Help us to start this day with a new attitude and plenty of gratitude. Let us make the best of each and every day to clear our minds so that we can better hear from You.
Please broaden our minds that we can accept all things. Let us not whine and whimper over things we have no control over.
And give us the best response when we are pushed beyond our limits.
I know that when we can’t pray,
You listen to our hearts. Continue to use us to do Your will. Continue to bless us that we may be a blessing to others. Keep us strong that we may help the weak… Keep us uplifted that we may have words of encouragement for others.
I pray for those that are lost and can’t find their way. I pray for those that are misjudged and misunderstood. I pray for those who don’t know You intimately. I pray for those that don’t believe.
But I thank You that I believe that God changes people and God changes things. I pray for all my sisters and brothers. For each and every family member in their households. I pray for peace, love and joy in their homes; that they are out of debt and all their needs are met.
I pray that every eye that reads this knows there is no problem, circumstance, or situation greater than God.
Every battle is in Your hands for You to fight.
I pray that these words be received into the hearts of every eye that sees it in Jesus’ name.
Amen!
Good Night All
lizben08 11.05.08 at 4:00 am
I hope the PUMAs continue. This campaign, unanswered questions and all the $$$$$$$$$ just don’t make sense. It won’t be easy, but somebody has to try to get at the truth in all this and be the watch dogs. I hope the Republicans try, but have little hope for the Dems at this point.
Thanks to all the PUMA’s and especially Murphy for all you have done.
nhforhillary 11.05.08 at 4:50 am
Dear Pumas,
Think about this….
You have the advantage, while the Obama students return to their lives and the voters go back to their lives, the PUMAS can have a much STRONGER voice… what about that card rule for unions? Maybe a little PUMA pounce to media and Pelosi?
How about getting Republicans to join PUMA? Go grab them to come here and help.
nhforhillary 11.05.08 at 4:53 am
Dear Pumas,
Think we should help stop the “fairness doctrine” that will threaten conservative radio???
Recruit Republicans from McCain site, and let’s organize the other PUMA sites to become one site???? More membership???
TLCPUMA 11.05.08 at 4:54 am
PUMAS I PISSED AS HELL I GUESS ALL THE FRAUD PAID OFF FOR [THE ONE ] SO I GUESS CRIME DOES PAY OFF !!!!!!!!
WHAT A PIECE OF SHIT !!!!!!!
CHI. THUGS WITH BILL AYERS RIGHT IN LINE IN FRONT VOTING FOR BO , MAN WHAT A COUNTRY !!!!!!!
1172 BRIANH AS HE SAYS POTUS= ” PILE OF UGLY SHIT’
BECAUSE THATS WHATS THAT THUG IS !!!!!!!!!!!!
I REALLY FEEL FOR SEN. CLINTON AND PRES. CLINTON IN THE ONES SPEECH HE DIDNT EVEN MENTION THEM TONIGHT SO HE DID WHAT WE KNEW HE JUST USED THEM WHAT A JACKAZZ
BUT PUMAS WE WORKED HARD AND HIS DAY WILL COME [[[KARMA]]
JR Dogman 11.05.08 at 4:54 am
nhforhillary,
I am a Republican, and, although I am a late-comer to the PUMA sites, I’ve been coming here exclusively for days. The conservative blogs were much too pessimistic.
nhforhillary 11.05.08 at 4:56 am
Dear Pumas,
If you want to reform the DNC, you need to stop them from passing legislation that will be destructive to our economy!
Protest Pelosi/Obama administration from raising taxes on our employers…$500 and a “pink slip” isn’t hope. Sounds like a good name for a prowl….grrrrrr.
Kerri 11.05.08 at 4:58 am
Okay. Where is Murphy? I don’t know why so many of you are saying she should hide or take a break. A simple one line post would be sufficient. It is really beyond beyond that she is so sorely NOT here with any of us at this time. Have to say, it will stick in my craw.
Those who are demanding their contributions to Senator Clinton back: kinda hypocritical. You say SHE turned coat? But you’ve known since BEFORE she gave up during the primaries, from her own words, that if she should lose she would be supporting Obama. Therefor, whatever you gave to her you did knowingly. The concept of a gift/charity is to sacrifice for the benefit of another without desire for return. True charity is not even spoken of. To decide to recind that is despicable, if you ask me. But, of course, you can do what you want.
Those blaming PUMA’s for anything…that makes no sense. You have no way of knowing who did what.
I have to believe that Zero won through fraud. It was just shown a few days ago that illegal aliens can and DO vote in our country and have been for years. There is pretty much no way to stop them once they’re on the registration rolls (thank you Acorn) and there is no way of knowing the percentage of votes that are fraudulent. That was the consensus of the analysis of that situation and basically everyone just shrugged about it and said, oh well.
I live in a very liberal county of NY…I find it funny that Obama won by a TINY percentage in this county but managed somehow, to carry the country? No. The results in this county were RIGHT and I believe indicative of how America really voted!
I do not know where we go from here. In truth I think the shoes are yet to start dropping. I hope that the acrymony which has become rampant in this pac is done away with. We need one another now more than ever. Our country is done for, most likely. Yet we, as individuals, must now fight for our survival. It will be possible only with a close-knit trusting network. When the time comes I am hoping PUMA’s will band together for one another!
I have been away from the Pac for a couple of months now, yet continued all my PUMA work. I am very disappointed in what I’ve witnessed here this night. I returned during this critical moment and am horrified at the fragmentation and chaos here. Divide and conquer from within. We are supposed to be the last vestige of democracy, the strong, sure SHORE of real hope, American pride and deceny. Please. Take some time away, if you must, but if you would call yourself a PUMA then find a way back to the centre. Back to our values. Respect, love, security and sharing.
Murphy…how could you not say I am with you all?
Well, I am with you all and I am ALWAYS going to bear the name PUMA with pride for the year 2008. I hope that the same will be said for the future as well.
Thank you to those who came to chat and kept the PUMA spirit with me tonight.
With Light and Love and Blessings,
Kerriwyn
PUMA: Vigilant, Fearless, Potent!
JR Dogman 11.05.08 at 4:58 am
I have a lot of respect for you all — I hope you’ll consider me an honorary PUMA. Although not to the same degree, I do know what it’s like to feel like I’ve been betrayed by my party, to feel like my party has sold out on its principles. Bush and the GOP congress spent like drunken sailors, although many ordinary citizens such as myself begged them to quit.
But then again, I do always think of the two parties, Democrat and Republican, as two ill-fitting pairs of pants, one of which I choose, not because it fits well at all, but because it fits less poorly than the other.
nhforhillary 11.05.08 at 5:00 am
Dear Pumas,
While the Obama crowd leaves and returns to their lives, the PUMAS can capitalize on building and becoming a stronger voice
to promote change for the good and to protest destructive change…
…hey, where’s our handout??? Let’s get a stimulus xmas package going, we should start asking for our handouts now,
sound like a prowl?????
JR Dogman 11.05.08 at 5:00 am
I agree with Kerri — how can you ask for your contributions back from Sen. Clinton? She did her best, just like Sen. McCain and Gov. Palin did their best — I’m not going to ask them for my money back, and I gave quite a bit.
Oh, well… political campaigns are always a gamble, aren’t they?
JR Dogman 11.05.08 at 5:03 am
What about Philip Berg’s efforts? I believe his allegations have merit… Perhaps a united effort of all the PUMA blogs and PUMAs out there behind Philip Berg… ?
nhforhillary 11.05.08 at 5:05 am
Dogman, sure welcome fellow PUMA!
Do you think we can get more new PUMAs like yourself interested in helping out this country???
victorypuma 11.05.08 at 5:07 am
I stayed up all night (in Europe). When I get back – no more democratic party but independent instead. I and am in shock. Let’s hope that maybe the NON-CITIZEN lawsuit will prevail? and the incompetent pile of shit will be disqualified.
If not, then we must think that it will be only for 4 years. We already endured 8 years of Bush. BO is bound to F**CK up things and then he won’t get re-elected.
Sad day indeed!
nhforhillary 11.05.08 at 5:10 am
I agree about the drunken spending spree of GOP, Bush really screwed it up for McCain. Unfortunately McCain was out of touch with the middleclass and didn’t have a clue what to say.
All he needed to do was to give a “specific” plan of change that would have seperated him from the hip of Bush. If he had done that, then Obama would have had to follow suit or lose.
McCain just threw rhetoric and policies to the wind and it just wasn’t what people were looking for. They needed to hear a plan for Americas future.
His strategists …. s*cked
JR Dogman 11.05.08 at 5:10 am
Yes, I’d love to help, both generally speaking, and as regards Philip Berg. I’ve been thinking maybe a coalition of all the PUMA blogs could help out his case — and the others’ cases, although Mr. Berg’s is the main one.
I’ve noticed that Mr. Berg’s website, obamacrimes.com, is lacking in so far as it is not very interactive — he hasn’t built up a community there. If we could work together with other PUMA blogs, to somehow get the word out to create a buzz, so the MSM *couldn’t* ignore his case, maybe something would happen. I’m thinking an interview with Greta could do us worlds of good.
What do you say?
nhforhillary 11.05.08 at 5:13 am
Dogman,
Hillary didn’t stand up for PUMAS, she fell in line. Financially she will be fine. This country and PUMAS won’t. She covered her *$$ but not ours. I think that your money might be better utilized doing something to make things right, to advocate with PUMAS to move this country in the right direction.
nhforhillary 11.05.08 at 5:16 am
Greta interview is a great idea.
They’re going to need something to talk about for the next 100 days…we should push them to vet the chosen one some more.
We should bombard CNN and MSNBC and others with claims that they were bias and threw the election to Obama….watch them scramble to be fair. Then offer interviews…what do you think?
nhforhillary 11.05.08 at 5:18 am
pumas should all go blog their thoughts on gretawire then email them to all the media. Whatever you feel about the election!!
JR Dogman 11.05.08 at 5:20 am
Well, I wouldn’t be so hard on Hillary — she’s right in the thick of the party. She doesn’t want to get marginalized, and that’s just how it is. Granted, you could say she might have done differently, but she held out a long time against the calls for her to quit. A long time. And I say this as a Republican. She hung tough. It’s interesting, though, I think Hillary — and PUMAs — finally got a taste of what conservatives have been talking about for years: the mainstream media doesn’t play it straight. If it did, they’d have reported all the news that was fit to print, for real, and Hillary would have been the nominee.
The behavior of the MSM is awful, generally speaking — and it was as awful as I’ve ever seen it, in the way that it favored BHO over Sen. Clinton. They’d have destroyed her if they felt they had to, to drag Obama over the finish line.
nhforhillary 11.05.08 at 5:22 am
Dogman,
I think from the beginning the puma websites should have been condensed into a main website that everyone visited so we could all get the same news. Being fragmented didn’t help.
We should regather and group. Work together enmass. Or have a main newssite where all the individual groups post their action items and news/events. That way they can blog in the place they’re used to, but check breaking news web hub to see what’s happening in Puma world. A coordinated effort
Patty 11.05.08 at 5:25 am
Mornin’ Pumas
nhforhillary 11.05.08 at 5:25 am
Funny, I wouldn’t call it “mainstream” anymore…no one trusts them or their false facts. What a sickening display of bias…constant nonstop.
I heard Oprah wants to use her tv station to push Obamas agenda. ugh.
BTW it doesn’t taste good. I’m an independent and it’s the worst I’ve ever seen too.
Luckyseven 11.05.08 at 5:27 am
JR Dogman 11.05.08 at 5:03 am
I thorougly agree with you. Yes, we want to change the democratic party, but we cannot do it if nobama is our fraudulent president. That should be our next fight – the nobama birth certificate, the passport that he used to go to pakistan (funny but remember when there was a furor about breaking into the passports – i wonder why) the tape that the la times refuses to release, his COMPLETE MEDICAL records – not a one page sheet from a doctor, all of his school records. It is beyond me how the people in this country can let him get away with these frauds. My other fear is that if we wait too long, there are liable to be records that will be substituted with no paper trail.
JR Dogman 11.05.08 at 5:27 am
nhforhillary,
From my own experience, at least, bombarding the MSM is useless — they do what they want to do. Take the LA Times — they sold their soul to protect BHO; what will they care if we hit them up with some more emails and calls?
Greta is good, I think, because she’s a news-hound: she wants the story, and she doesn’t like how Sen. Clinton and Gov. Palin were treated by the rest of the media.
Philip Berg’s lawsuit is also good, because, presently, it’s the only thing that — however long a shot it may be — might just throw some sugar in the gas tank of the Obama Express.
And I don’t just say that from a strategic P.O.V.; I think Berg’s case has merit. Obama has not produced any of the documentation that would have cleared this matter up, and there must be a reason why — common sense tells me that he did not produce it because Berg is correct: his birth certificate says he was born in Kenya, and/or his school records indicate his having received foreign aid as a citizen of Kenya or Indonesia.
PUMAs and others of like mind should rally to help Philip Berg’s case. If we decide to do this, though, we need to get organized, and fast.
axel 11.05.08 at 5:27 am
I’m an European Democrat, moderate and centrist. Thus Hillary would be my first choice.
Yet I still respect her, in my opinion she did what she considered as being her duty – even if I’m a skeptic by nature.
Now, am I allowed to post here?
storytellers 11.05.08 at 5:31 am
I feel so so digusted, so so sad
I wonder what is going to happen to the BC affair, to his CVR that no one has seen
what is the FBI & CIA doing????
all this relations with thugs , radicals, and america´s enemies will be coverd and no one would say a thing???
nhforhillary 11.05.08 at 5:32 am
Hillary and my hindsight.
I supported her a lot more that she supported me. In the end, I think she bailed. I’m not proud of what she did. I think she ran for a reason…but when only 4 delegates seperated her and Obama…they gave Obama 4 delegates…hmmmm.
We couldn’t count on Hillary and her future remains to be seen. She’ll be pushing the party line, and we’ll be pushing reform and put country before Pelosi…my thoughts.
Hard on Hillary? How about hard on us, we believed, we worked our guts out. After tonight….I have nothing more to say about Hillary.
JR Dogman 11.05.08 at 5:33 am
nhforhillary and Luckyseven, I agree totally.
We do need to get together. Somehow or other, the biggest PUMA blogs need to coordinate with each other, and we need to liaison with Philip Berg — that is, with him and his office staff.
In short, if his case is to have any chance, it needs to be organized into a campaign.
How many PUMAs are there? How much can we do? Only by organizing ourselves will we find out the answers to these questions.
So far as I can tell, from my brief experience with the pumasphere, some of the main PUMA blogs are pumapac, the confluence, and hillbuzz. We need to get to get together and organize.
Hey — you could say we need to organize the online PUMA community. I guess that would make us “community organizers”, wouldn’t it?
storytellers 11.05.08 at 5:33 am
sorry 4 typo disgusted
nhforhillary 11.05.08 at 5:36 am
I read somewhere that Berg has a Dec 1st deadline for something.
The difference with bombarding the media, will be that the Obots will be gone. We’ll be heard.
Maybe we should demand to see Obamas records.
nhforhillary 11.05.08 at 5:40 am
Puma community organizing…I like that one!
Let’s get in their faces.
Yes we can…grrrrrr
Yes we can…PUMA
lol
nhforhillary 11.05.08 at 5:42 am
I think Murphy should get Will Bower and Lynn de Rothschild involved, and how about Dems for McCain?
A nice thorn in the side might be to ask for some recounts in close states….
JR Dogman 11.05.08 at 5:45 am
Well, nhforhillary, bombarding the media would be part of the campaign. But we would have to have a general campaign or battle plan.
In the case of “Rathergate”, the story got its start on the blogs, then, gradually, it got so much circulation, so much buzz, that the media couldn’t ignore it any longer, because so many people were talking about it.
Right now, Philip Berg’s site, obamacrimes.com, is piss-poor. It is not set up for activism. It’s not even set up like this, i.e., as a forum for easy discussion. We need to coordinate the big PUMA blogs, through which we will coordinate individual PUMAs (and again, that will amount to thousands of people, and perhaps even more, depending on how well we get the word out), and coordinate the PUMA blogs’ leadership personnel with Philip Berg and his team.
We need to get on Rush, on Steve Malsberg, on the Savage Nation, on Mark Levin, Hannity — on all the big shows. And to do that, we need to have numbers, and we need to generate a BUZZ.
In short, Philip Berg needs a team, and that team needs to be STRONG.
Right now, Obama and his supporters are celebrating, but if we get organized as I think we can, we may just surprise them — we could hit them from out of nowhere.
We need BUZZ — we need to make so much noise that this gets out to the general public, so people are talking about it, and it is being DEMANDED by the public that Obama release his birth certificate, school records, and all the rest.
TexAsia 11.05.08 at 5:47 am
Good morning, PUMAS!
Yes, it is a good morning. While we may have lost the election, we have not lost the war!
There will be no checks and balances after January 20, so it’s up to us the citizens of the USA, the 54 million plus who didn’t vote for BHO, to keep the pressure on those bozos in Washington. Yes, and that means those that we have put back in Washington to be held accountable for all of their actions.
This election reminds me of another one in southeast Asia. The man that won the election was very popular with the poors and while he implemented some programs that were supposed to help the poors and move the country as a player in international market, his leadership team was getting wealthier. He and his family are now living in other country not able to get back into his own country because of alleged corruptions. I wonder if the US is heading in that direction.
As for Hillary, she is done. There will not be a 2012 for her because BHO will reign for the next 8 years and then one of his supporters will take over. I can see the Democrats running the country for the next 16 years, at least. I hope and pray that we still have the USA then and that our country will not be bankrupted from all the spendings that will be going on with Pelosi, Reed and Obama at the helm.
PUMAS, we must stay united and be vigilent of the legislations that will be coming up under Obama’s administration. If they will not be good for the country and for us, we must fight against them.
God bless you all and we will stay in touch.
JR Dogman 11.05.08 at 5:48 am
nhforhillary,
I might be wrong, but I don’t think recounts are the way to go. The election is over. No doubt there was a good deal of fraud — but that isn’t the issue.
The issue is, Berg tried to compel Obama to release his birth certificate, and Obama fought him in court to avoid having to release it. Why?
That’s where the gold is.
TexAsia 11.05.08 at 5:50 am
Isn’t Andy Martin having a hearing in Hawaii regarding Obama’s birth certificate on November 18?
JR Dogman 11.05.08 at 5:51 am
But unless we get BUZZ going on this issue, it’s going to be hard for Berg to prevail — this is a power-keg of an issue.
To take a page from the community organizers’ book, we need to generate a sense of crisis that must be dealt with. That the crisis is real is all the more helpful — but it doesn’t mean that getting a buzz going about will happen without major organization by the PUMAs.
JR Dogman 11.05.08 at 5:54 am
nhforhillary,
Will Bower and Lynn de Rothschild would be great — but they won’t come on board for what looks like a makeshift fishing expedition. Berg’s case has to look like it’s got a chance for people like that to lend it their support.
mijabsnji 11.05.08 at 5:56 am
Good Morning Pumas,
I feel down but I am ready for action, I have to go to work but will be back . I never cried over an election before but last night I cried my self to sleep. Have a good day all, I need to learn how to cope with the election, I feel like someone died.
JR Dogman 11.05.08 at 5:57 am
TexAsia,
I don’t know about Andy Martin’s hearing — I’ve been focused on Philip Berg’s case. No doubt we’d want to look at both, but I think Berg’s case is stronger, and I also think Berg presents his case very eloquently.
elle_za 11.05.08 at 5:59 am
But I thought the PUMA position was IN LARGE PART that Obama had no chance at all and that we would only have a “mess” by selecting him as the dem candidate.
Wait. THIS is why I think PUMA had little effect this year. And if you want to GROW as an organization you have to wonder WHY you didn’t. I am a woman who was pissed by the way Hillary was treated in the primaries and by the media but I could never quite get with you PUMA’s, despite visiting our site and TRYING to get it.
Because for me, a candidate is not built by their gender alone. Hillary is a SMART, experienced, hard as nails candidate, who also shares my ideals, like for women’s rights and gay rights and health care. You cannot swap her out for another woman who is not only stupid and inexperienced, but stands for completely different ideals. It does not mean the same thing.
So when you say we must regroup for “women’s rights” in the same breath as talking about Palin’s chances, you have lost me completely.
NO. You are asking where are all the PUMA women. I will tell you: it had nothing to do with his money. It had to do with the fact that he is the better candidate for women’s rights out of the two. How can any reasonable PUMA vote for McCain and (even in cases of rape and incest) Palin and expect Hillary supporters from the primaries to be okay with that? It was WRONG.
No, she put country above personal ego. Something you should learn to do if you hope to ever win or recruit others.
JR Dogman 11.05.08 at 6:00 am
Lordy, but am I tired. I think I’m going to sign off in a minute– I’ll wait for your responses, then will say goodnight. But we should not just leave it here — this should go someplace, as I really do think Berg has a case.
ladyhawkke 11.05.08 at 6:01 am
Good Morning, Pumas. Didn’t stay up to see the finish last night but woke up to the worst news. Where was the PUMA factor? Apparently, we are many, but weren’t not enough to make the difference. The people who voted for Bush in 2004 either stayed home or voted for O. I’m going to play the blame game, can’t help it. It started with Rush, Hannity, and even Dick Morris and others getting people to vote for Obama so Hillary wouldn’t win; Donna Brazile and Karl Rove’s little conspiracy to get Hillary out. Then the corrupt DNC who stole the nomination. The Repubs that went along with this get what they deserve. We are the ones who will suffer. Hillary would have been the best. But I can’t let the Clintons off the hook either, had they not gone overboard, BO would not be standing where he is.
After listening to Dr. Long the other evening on blog talk radio about delegates with bruised arms being forced to sign that they supported BO, I wonder why out of 4,000 delegates, that not ONE called the cops. I don’t think for one minute one PUMA would have been intimidated. I am resigned to this and will not watch the news.
I don’t think for one minute Berg or Andy Martin will get to see the BC or, for that matter, any of Obama’s records. They will be immediately put under seal. The American People have had the biggest fraud perpetrated upon them. It is a sad day for Democracy in America.
I have a 7:30 tennis match. Chin up, Pumas, they can’t keep us down.
ladyhawkke 11.05.08 at 6:04 am
#1428 TexAsia I don’t think Obama will have 2 terms. He will be a one term president, like Carter.
JR Dogman 11.05.08 at 6:07 am
I agree with ladyhawkke re Obama not having two terms.
JR Dogman 11.05.08 at 6:08 am
So there is a bright side for you, besides the long-shot Philip Berg case. Plus there are the mid-terms in only two years.
Lin4Hill 11.05.08 at 6:12 am
Well, I sitting here in the dark staring at all of my PUMA friends’ words, wondering if you slept. I tossed all night and finally gave up. I know I am probably in the grieving states of denial and anger. I’m sorry, PUMAs. Really sorry that our country has lost its mind. I’m sorry that the wealthy media designed this victory. I’m sorry that Hillary put down her sword and shield and followed the money and power brokers.
We tried. We really gave it the most valiant of efforts. I cannot accept that America chose the most scandalous and corrupt candidate. Nothing stuck to him apparently. Nothing. That, in itself, reeks of foul play. (denial)
There are people who know things about this man who kept silent.
They have sold their souls. This is not my America. That man is not my president. (anger)
Sergei, I hope you are right regarding “undoing” of a concession. But when the media has annointed him already, and the mobs have celebrated through the night, do they dare say, “Oh, uh, these numbers indicate otherwise….” ?? Can you imagine the outcry?
I am just shattered right now. And I have to walk into my BO-worshipping, inner-city classroom in a couple of hours and hold my head up. And it’s hard.
mccaindemo 11.05.08 at 6:15 am
What did we expect…such rampant voter fraud,right in front of the publics eyes…but without a fair media the public didn’t see, such blatant lies told by Obama ..but without a fair media the public could not hear…this election was sold to us by the media and power brokers throughout the world…we can only wait for the OTHER ‘shoe to drop’, as they say, the first shoe is Obama,the mouthpiece.
Patty 11.05.08 at 6:20 am
Lin4Hil
Chin up. This election was the democrats from the start.
I said last night whoever wins the election is the real loser.
They inherit two wars, and a recession.
I thought Bush would go down in history as the worst president ever, now I’m not so sure.
Bandy 11.05.08 at 6:24 am
Hi Everyone!
I haven’t been able to blog for awhile. I was planning to spend my night online with you guys last night especially though. Since corresponding with other PUMA’s has certainly helped me get through some other really critical times this election year. Like the day B.O. got the nomination at the DNC convention… And the very worst day of all (until today)… The day that Hillary conceded. I was still blogging at her campaign site for that one.
Anyway, I emailed an old friend (out-of-state) last night – a fellow McCain supporter. Then I was just logging on here – when my friend got my email and immediately called me. So I ended up commiserating with her for hours. Still, I wanted to share my thoughts from last night here. This is what I emailed my friend, and where my head was at just about the time B.O. was wrapping up his acceptance speech:
“I’m listening to the TV and I’m going to throw up. It’s the beginning of the end – I can almost guarantee it, even though it may not appear so initially… Our country as we’ve known it up to now, will ultimately end. With his background and connections, this defies all logic!!! President Barack Hussein Obama? I feel like I’m looking at the awe-struck, tear-streaked, worshipping faces of a cult or something – in that crowd on TV. Don’t EVER let yourself be deceived by the flowery speeches! I know I’m preaching to the choir here though.”
(Actually, this is still where my head is! Although right now I’m too tired right now to think!)
Well, I’ll be back later to hopefully catch up on all the posts from last night and this morn’. And for moral support!!!! I’m not communicating with my mother or anyone in my family who lives in the same city as me. Because they are all Kool-Aid drinkers and even worked on his campaign of all things! We had nothing but arguments all year already. I don’t even know how I can possibly deal with them celebrating now, and all the endless admiration for “their chosen one.” I can’t stand it. I’m not going to go to Thanksgiving dinner either. My dad & his family are out of state. Maybe I’ll have to go there. Or, maybe I’ll just leave the country or something. It’s not going to be a place to be thankful for when we no longer recognize it. I pray that in whatever B.O. gets us into or however he changes the country as we’ve known it, that God will help and protect all of us that didn’t buy into his cult! Okay, so there’s my 2 cents. Gotta run now. Love and hugs to all….
(And #1438 – Lin4Hill, I hear you!!! I can relate! Hang in there. Do your best. Get earplugs maybe?)
MamaPuma 11.05.08 at 6:30 am
Good Morning PUMA World
Today is the day for us to regroup, sleep and them move on to do our real jobs of reforming the Democratic Party and restore democracy.
Love
Mama
Take it upstairs
bythelake 11.05.08 at 6:33 am
Good morning PUMAS! Well, the shock of this election has set in. I can’t help being disgusted watching the local Cleveland Ohio news. The blacks crying for that one. Yep, this election will go down in history but will never be fulling documented in the books. What we have no is the saving grace that he f’s up so bad that we can stand back and point our fingers and shake it in their noses and tell them we told you so. I look forward to that. I’m sick of TV, will get back to normal life now watching HGTV, movies and anything but coverage of that one. I’ll keep the computer as my mouthpiece cuz it’s easy to flip the page.
This is the time we hold his feet to the fire and I expect it’s gonna get awful darn hot for that one.
slyt2 11.05.08 at 6:36 am
HEllo puma’s (i won’t say good Morning because there is nothing good about it)
Headclunker 11.05.08 at 6:39 am
Was it Fraud or Opportunity?
They are saying that Bush and the economy did McCain in, but I still have to wonder more about fraud. I spent over 15 hours working the polls in Florida and I can tell you that system was wide open to fraud. The basic problem was that they did not have the Voters Registers updated for early voters and absentee ballots. Clerks recieved this information in a “Supplemental List”. My precinct recieved this as about 10 pages of non-alphabetized names. I was the assistant clerk to a more experienced clerk who was not initially cooperative about even getting me copies of the list and did not initially recognise the significance of the situation. I had to seriously assert myself.
Our precinct did not have even have a line except first thing in the morning (before it was possible to update the register). Fortunately it slowed down but the polls were open for two hours before we could get the first pass at an update done. Midday they delivered an alphabetized list and we reviewed the lists again and had them done a half an hour before the polls closed. We had caught about 90% on the first pass and it appeared that nobody got through the system at our precinct. But I had to work hard for most of that 15 hours to do that because I also had to help with the processing.
We processed over 300 ballots and over 10% required affirmations. I had two voters who I had to cancell absentee ballots for because they had no idea that they had sent for them.
Then there were the Poll Workers. We had one who was completely out of control and I had to tell back her off twice. She was asserting minimum checks of voter registrations. I conceeded some on the provisional ballots because our traffic was moderate most of the day. But she even gave me a hard time about the use of affirmations but I put my foot down and worked hard to get them done properly. Affirmations require some additional checks, forms and signatures to verify address and qualification. I only sent away one voter, who was just not registered but it took alot of work to determine that.
In a high traffic precinct I do not see how it could be done properly. The system was wide open to fraud.
MamaPuma 11.05.08 at 6:40 am
Take it upstairs
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indy 11.05.08 at 6:42 am
Morning PUMAs,
What a night. I logged off the computer at 8:00 and watched FOX, I couldn’t stand it, so I switched to HGTV. Dozed off and my daughter woke me when Mac was conceding. I wished she didn’t. Mac was too gracious.
Once again, the country elected a loser. I thought Bush was bad and couldn’t wait til his term was over. Now, I don’t want Bush to leave office and leave the keys to the country to that socialist. At least I know Bush loves his country in his own skewed way. This ONE is going to drive this country to hell in a hand basket!
Look out PUMAs for the Truth Squad, an even more in the tank MSM, Civilian Security Force, higher taxes, higher fuel costs, demise of the entrepreneur, more gov’t intrusion, increased national debt, negotiating with our enemies without pre-conditions, an unprotected
Israel, education programs for children 0-5 years, teachers producing little activists instead of the 3 R’s, etc.
Obama’s the figure head for the radical activists and socialists. With a Democratically controlled House and Senate, no voice for dissent. MSM will also be in lock-step. O’s records sealed indefinitely.
The elitists who voted for Obama, will be the first one’s crying when he enlists socialism on a large scale.
Don’t come to us. They had their chances in the Primary and General Elections to stop that imposter. Unfortunately, we have to also pay for their stupidity.
What a fraud perpetrated on America.
My voice will not be silenced!
ladyhawkke 11.05.08 at 6:57 am
At least they didn’t get the 60 filibuster proof senate. However, I hoope wew don’t get some left leaning repubs to go along with BO’s socialist agenda. Wonder if he is going to give amnesty to his illegal aunt? And to himself as well.
PrincesseJen 11.05.08 at 7:04 am
This is what I plan on doing, rebel.
http://princessejen.wordpress.com/2008/11/05/a-rebel-until-the-end-of-time/
lilibet 11.05.08 at 7:12 am
Someone PLEASE STOP THE HILLARY BASHERS THAT HAVE COME UP AGAIN. One of the PUMA RULES IS NO HILLARY BASHING ON THIS SITE.
We should be happy that even though they stole the nomination from her at least Hillary will be a moderate voice in the Senate. That is also true of Senator McCain. We need as many moderate voices as possible in the Senate. Senator Clinton cannot, and should not be held responsible for the theft of this election. We should concentrate our ire on the people who were directly responsible.That is, of course, the MSM, Obama himself in orchestrating the fraud in the caucuses and ACORN, which to our horror has been subsidized by us. You may not like Hillary any more, but you also may not bash her on this site as Murphy has reminded us from time to time.
lilibet 11.05.08 at 7:14 am
Another fact is that Hillary was forced to support the Democrat ticket in order to hold on to her Senate seat.
pumasupporter 11.05.08 at 8:38 am
I am devastated about this loss. I believed in McCain and Palin. As a good, decent, God-fearing man, I can’t understand how someone can lie, cheat, and steal their way into the Presidency.
Amazonia 11.05.08 at 11:37 am
I was helping with visibility (sign waving) yesterday, then lurking on these blogs. I will share a few thoughts with my fellow PUMAs before running off to work.
Agree. I hope this PUMA blog will stay open. Is important to keep in touch sharing ideas and working towards preserving Democracy in this great country.
As for Senator Clinton, we do not know the full story yet, someday we might. I did not like one bit her campaining so hard for BO, I suspect she must have been threatened with something serius such as physical harm to Chelsea or something like that. So, I will NOT ask for my contributions refund, since she worked so hard, and I think made us proud, during the primaries.
Let’s allow her to keep some of her sanity, let’s don’t participate in “the
beating” part II.
In regards to Hillary, then, I have place myself in neutral gear. This way it will be less damaging to her and to myself.
As far as Gov. Sarah Palin, I think we could consider contributing to her campaign fund, to be used in the future whether she runs for the Senate or runs for reelection to the Governorship of Alaska. Remember, she did not have the support of the Republican political establishment when she run for Governor. If she becomes a Senator she will acquire a better understanding of the ins and outs of Washington and benefit from McCain’s guidance. She will be a formidable presidential candidate in a few years from now.
I dream of the day when I will see Hillary and Sarah running in the same ticket.
Regarding the Main Stream Media. My suspicion is that a large percentage of voters still get their news, political and otherwise from TV and radio, so
as long as the same ownership (a few or one majority owner) runs the media, they will choose and pick which “news” are delivered to the public, and how to spin them (i.e. CNN, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, et al.). Something must be done about the power the owners of the MSM have acquired to swing elections whichever way they wish. Wuold it be necessary to regulate the media again?
I don’t know.
It’s time to form a third Party. I’m ready.
Go PUMAs!
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