This is it Puma PAC.
In less than 24 hours we will begin voting all across our country. From San Diego to Brooklyn, from Topeka to Shippensburg, from Ocean City to La Habra to Cedar City to Seattle to Bangor.
Everything we’ve worked for, everything we’ve worked against, every principle we’ve tried to defend, and every attack we’ve tried to counter is on the line for the next 36 hours.
We are going to win tomorrow. We are going to win for fair play and decency because the ends do NOT justify the means in a democratic society. In fact the opposite is true. Democracy is FRAGILE. It will die if the people don’t love it and defend it EVERY TIME it is threatened. Our end, the end of democracy in America, will be DETERMINED by the MEANS of those who want to rule. The Pumas are going to win tomorrow for the vulnerable and the poor — women, old people, sick people, immigrants, gay and lesbian people, small business owners, fat people, ugly people, the uneducated, and the misinformed — all of us who were betrayed, insulted, ignored, and ridiculed by our party. We are going to win for Hillary because it is NOT RIGHT that votes and delegates were stolen from her, and if we let them get away with it this time what will ever stop them from doing it every time? We are going to win for democracy because Obama tried to steal votes from us, and as Riverdaughter says, “Either we are fully enfranchised or we are not. And if we are not, then nothing else matters.”
So, Puma PAC, be prepared to win tomorrow, but be prepared to WORK today. The powers that be can sense a shift in the air. They are peeking over their shoulders and can see the tide PULLING OUT FAST. Expect them to be hysterical. Expect them to lie and hand-wave and blame — to do everything but guide, inform, or lead. Ignore them. The national press is NOT a friend to democracy. But the internet is.
We started a small fire in June. The Puma Movement has grown quickly, but quietly. Through emails, and links, and blog posts, youtubes, songs, and fact sheets passed around; passed silently from one quiet person at home to another quiet person at the office — and on and on again, until now.
Now is our last day to be heard before we win tomorrow. Blog all day if you can. There are millions and millions of Pumas reading the internet today — people who don’t know they are Pumas yet. Light the way for them to find us by linking to Pumasphere sites everywhere you go. Our comment threads, sidebar, blogroll, and ACTION Center are FULL of links to guide people. Go there — pick something and carry it with you all day, leaving bright crumbs of truth and facts for all those Pumas out there who don’t yet know how much is at stake.
Barack Obama, inspired by Bill Ayers, tried to burn democracy down. But he failed. Fewer people voted for Barack Obama than Hillary Clinton. He ALREADY lost — Hillary won the primaries. Bill Ayers is a washed-up, toothless radical who, if he hadn’t spent his whole privileged life benefiting from the racist institutions he pretends to fight, would be LOCKED IN JAIL like the criminal that he is. He is free because he is a rich, white man — a truly stunning instantiation of moral hypocrisy.
And Obama is a fraud who tried to trick people into believing that destroying democracy is necessary for transcendant CHANGE. But change NEVER comes with the destruction — only death and terror accompany destruction. Tell the trapped field mouse and the burning tree that the fire heals. Change only comes in the REBUILDING.
A prairie fire is a healing event. It cleanses, heals, and revives the landscape. The terrorist Bill Ayers tried to use the metaphor of a prairie fire to hurt, kill, and destroy. He GOT IT ALL WRONG. You don’t lead by standing above the people. You lead by standing WITH the people. You don’t lead by telling the people what to do. You lead by listening to what the people need. ALL the people.
We stand together Pumas. Our movement was sparked by need, like all people’s movements are, and that’s why we are POWERFUL. Because we NEED each other; we found each other; and we are going to fight and work TOGETHER. Bill Ayers and Barack Obama thought they could become enormously powerful men by starting a fire of destructive change.
But they were wrong. We stole their fire. The prairie fire is ours now.
Let it roar.




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prowlland 11.03.08 at 10:51 am
wtg pumas
bythelake 11.03.08 at 10:53 am
I’m here!
justnotright 11.03.08 at 10:56 am
I was wondering when we were going to take it upstairs!!!
Top 10?
kevink 11.03.08 at 10:56 am
To the Barricades!!!!
freddiebrown 11.03.08 at 10:58 am
Present
bythelake 11.03.08 at 10:58 am
Check out this video, The Rise of the United Socialist United States of America.
http://objllc.com/USSA.htm
murphy 11.03.08 at 10:59 am
dwp — our goals, starting Nov 5th:
1. Fight the dnc leadership — dean, brazile, all of them — OUT
2. Fight the sexist, lying, misogynistic media — all of it, by standing up to it and being an alternative to it.
3. Investgate the CRIMINAL FRAUD and OTHER CRIMES committed by Obama and his employees for the last 18 months
4. Support and lobby GOOD democrats in congress so this never happens again.
plus other stuff like this.
1gypsy4mc 11.03.08 at 10:59 am
I think Asian’s Lost!!
kat in your hat 11.03.08 at 10:59 am
Thanks murphy. Good post.
You pumas ready?
FIRE! FIRE! FIRE!
ROARRRRRRRR!
Make that fire roar pumas!
Fight for democracy, and for our country.
This is it.
justnotright 11.03.08 at 11:01 am
I just wanted to say, while I’m near the top, that it has been a privilege and an honor to fight alongside you. My friends do not understand. “How can you vote REPUBLICAN” they say. Fortunately, they are not voters at all, they are Australians. But they don’t understand that I am not a Republican really, but I do respect and trust John McCain and Sarah Palin, to be honest to the electorate and do right by the country, and I categorically reject Obama and his cronies in the DNC. We will take back this party, by God.
justnotright 11.03.08 at 11:02 am
Murphy,
We, who are about to vote (and who have already voted), salute you!
indy 11.03.08 at 11:04 am
Re-posting from downstairs:
I was websurfing and found an archival site with 85 billion pages. I’ve been checking the Sun-Times archives. I’m still browsing, but I thought I’d post the site. I had trouble with the web address, but the third time was the charm.
Here it is: http://web.archive.org/web/2004*/http://suntimes.com
When you get on the web page just enter the web address and scroll down the box marked “ALL” and pick the year. Then it will list all the days in that year they have archived.
Well, naturally I had to try it out and I went into the Chicago Sun-Times website, to see if I might find a morsel on Obama. I’m still going thru it, but I found a tidbit which is interesting and taps into the LA Times withholding the video tape.
The article is about Obama’s opponent, Ryan, in the 2004 Senate race dropping out because the Judge unsealed Ryan’s divorce case.
This was the Judge’s ruling:
During an hourlong news conference at the Chicago Hilton and Towers yesterday, Ryan supplied reporters with copies of the hundreds of pages of documents that Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Robert A. Schnider had just unsealed.
They are part of a child custody battle after the couple’s 1999 divorce. Schnider unsealed them after the Chicago Tribune and WLS- argued voters had a right to know what was in the documents.”
Don’t we have the right to know, when our country well-being depends on the public’s right to know?
Go Hunting!
lizben08 11.03.08 at 11:05 am
Let’s make this viral this last day before the election, since the economy is #1 issue. Lets get it on the news in swing states. This is a perfect example that what he has said in 2008 is campaign rhetoric. What he said and did in Illinois before he started running is what he really thinks:
Notyoursweetie 11.03.08 at 9:17 am
Obama thinks you’re rich if you make over 50-60k a year
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/11/03/rich-is-over-50-60k-a-year-another-version/
Fightforfreedom 11.03.08 at 11:06 am
Are you all voting a straight Republican ticket? We are. Clean house and show pelosi, reed & frank the PEOPLE are in charge!
TXRepGirl 11.03.08 at 11:06 am
Obama’s “Energy Plan”
Inflate your tires to save 3-4% in oil. (plus, notice how he calls McCain/Palin “ignorant”… can you IMAGINE the firestorm if Mc had called O “ignorant”?!)
Also, please ESPECIALLY notice O’s mention of expanding the electric grid! HELLO! WHERE DOES HE THINK THE ELECTRICITY FOR THAT GRID WOULD COME FROM?!!!
http://www.ors2.state.sc.us/abstract/chapter9/energy_g1.php
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMwBbl6RoIs
About McCain (2 governors a couple months ago) “They have ignored coal…”
Then one governor saying that by not building coal plants, you push the energy source to natural gas which is actually, according to him, FAR more likely to emit CO2.
So, no coal, no nuclear (as O says, “We don’t yet have the technology to store the waste” so it’s, according to him, not feasible now. No drilling. Nat gas will be next because when someone figures out the CO2 thing, that will be gone.
And yet, O is touting “expanding the electric grid.”
I can’t do youtube cut and pastes, but when you put all of this together… This “plan” will have us sitting in the dark and cold, unable to drive anywhere, but we will be SO happy because of all we’ve done in the name of protecting the environment.
justnotright 11.03.08 at 11:07 am
Eloquent PUMAs far from swing states, call voters, call, call call call. You can do so much, as a fellow Democrat, to dialogue with fellow Democrats on this. Republicans cannot speak our language…
1gypsy4mc 11.03.08 at 11:07 am
someone needs to go back downstairs Have been there 3 times!! Get the pack!
Alice Rodham Puma 11.03.08 at 11:08 am
How To Talk To An Obama Cultist, The Complete Collection by Big Ticer
Good Morning PUMAs
Ready to ROAR!
hillstheone 11.03.08 at 11:09 am
Good morning PUMA nation, make it a great day!
lizben08 11.03.08 at 11:09 am
No matter who wins, PUMA’s will have a busy 2009. So hoping for a McCain/Palin win, will be so much easier to clean up the Democratic Party and the Republican Party is already changing. I am looking for a moderate party that wants what’s best for our country. Is that too much to ask?
justnotright 11.03.08 at 11:10 am
Our greatest gift is passing along the knowledge to others that we are not traitors to our party by not voting for Obama. Once people realize that it is okay to feel that way, a great weight will be lifted by many. Others will be beyond reach, but we cannot be discouraged by them. Go, my friends, talk to others.
just.words... 11.03.08 at 11:11 am
Murphy,
I second justnotright’s notion that it has been an honor and a privilege to stand with you and be part of this fight.
We salute you (and your family for supporting you) — you were the spark that lit this cleansing PUMA fire.
Awesome work all weekend, Murphy! We changed a lot of minds by getting them to visit this site.
TexasTigress 11.03.08 at 11:11 am
Now is the time for all good Pumas to come to the aide of their Country !!!!
Gut check time , Pumas . In these prescious few hours before the final voting begins , give it all you’ve got !
And when it comes time to step into that booth and pull that lever or push that button or fill in that blank , I am begging you to (not pushing) begging you to please do what you need to do to deliver that final blow to the candidate and the party that didn’t think twice before they kicked you in the gut , stole your party ,and degraded the one candidate in the primaries who actually gave a crap about YOU .
Suck it up , take one for the team , and lets bring those corrupt Carpathians to their knees !!!!!!!!!
ROAR !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Grizzly 11.03.08 at 11:11 am
This is an eye opener! Just saw this analysis of Obama’s “Presidential Seal”:
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message654368/pg1
It is worth reading the whole article, but here is a tidbit:
“What is the significance of the Rising Sun in the Obama Logo that could generate a retching sensation? Why would the Obama campaign superimpose this symbol over the US Shield Presidential Seal of the United States?
The great theme of Obama is that his campaign promises to end party divisiveness, bring hope and change that will unify the country. Obama’s Rising Sun represents that unity through a rising hope.
In Islam, The rising sun is a sign of Allah. Indeed, the sun plays a significant role in Islam. The Islamic call to prayer sequences around the sun, with prayer at sunrise, before and after the sun has reached noon, and at sunset.
The rising sun is also a significant guide for followers of Abraham. The Prophet Abraham’s quest for God as an example of how those who follow His signs will be rightly guided: When he saw the rising sun in splendor, he said: ‘This is my Lord, this is the greatest (of all). (Qur’an 6:75-79)
And again, “When the Khazrajis, who had become Muslim, were about to return to Yathrib, they asked the Holy Prophet of Islam for a missionary, and he assigned Mas’ab ibn `Umir to accompany them. Thus, the people of Yathrib were informed of the Rising Sun of Islam and hurried to gain information about the new faith.”
Historically, a Rising Sun has not been a symbol of unity. In Islam as noted above, it represents the rise of Islam above all other faiths. It was also used by imperialistic Japan in the 20th century in its quest to dominate Asia and the Pacific. The Rising Sun is a symbol of a conquering movement.
Obama is using his Rising Sun in triumph over the symbols of unity in the Great Seal and Presidential Seals of the US. The shield in the center of the Great Seal and Presidential Seal has 13 stripes, signifying unity of the original 13 colonies. Obama blotted out this unifying symbol with his vanquishing Rising Sun.”
justnotright 11.03.08 at 11:12 am
lisben08
I agree with you 100% but we have yet to ascertain our numbers. How many PUMAs there are will dictate the political realities of what we can do in the future. What we must do now is apply whatever we strength we have to the task at hand.
just.words... 11.03.08 at 11:13 am
In case anyone was wondering:
It is just as satisfying to turn off the TV when NObiden comes on to flap his lyin’ yapper as it it when That One opens his lie hole!
Highly recommend the television “OFF” vote!
mimi1020 11.03.08 at 11:14 am
ATTENTION PUMAS:
EVERYONE GO To: http://www.democrats-against-obama.org/home.html
READ BULLET POINT #2, PAUL MARTSON PREDICTING LANDSLIDE FOR MCCAIN AND CREDITING PUMAS……MAKES SENSE TO ME!
ALL IT TAKES IS A MEAR 1 MIL OUT OF HRC’S 18MIL – WAYYYYYY DOABLE.
GOOOOOO PUMAAAAAS!
gojoyknocks 11.03.08 at 11:14 am
CT KEY…HAPPY BIRTHDAY.I hope you see this. Still can’t access the Village. Have a great day.
NewOrleansPuma 11.03.08 at 11:14 am
#15TexRepGirl: The dark with no lights in a city anywhere for miles, none, is a void that no one should ever have to experience in real time and in metaphor. New Orleans after Katrina for months was this way..It is utterly and totally a feeling of aloneness…Fire…this Puma Fire must burn today and tomorrow and thereafter…it will and by the grace of God and the work of all, it shall.
mountainsong 11.03.08 at 11:15 am
Sometimes, when fighting raging forest fires that are out of control, it is necessary to light a ‘Backfire” (fighting fire with fire). A backfire consumes all the fuel in front of the forest fire so that when the forest fire gets there, there is no fuel left to burn. And it snuffs out.
I see PUMA as a BACKFIRE. We are educating and enlightening the voting public so they will not be fooled when the Wicked One’s fire comes for them.
2PumaSisters 11.03.08 at 11:15 am
Good Morning……Go Pumas…….//Tomorow we will all be smiling.
There will be a McCain/Palin WIN. I am confident of this.
Let’s go out and VOTE tomorrow.
justnotright 11.03.08 at 11:16 am
Ignore all polls today. The time for polling is over. Now is the time for deciding. And the November surprise is in our laps. It was nearly swept under the rug by the SF Chronicle. It is the coal issue, and it can decide many crucial states. So lets drive that point home with those to whom it matters the most.
TerryDo 11.03.08 at 11:16 am
MURPHY’S POST “But they were wrong. We stole their fire. The prairie fire is ours now.”
“Let it roar.”
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Here is an adjunct to your sentiment Murphy;
We Didn’t Start the Fire” by Billy Joel
We didn’t start the fire,
It was always burning
Since the world was turning,
We didn’t start the fire
No we didn’t light it
But we tried to fight it
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Susie1945 11.03.08 at 11:17 am
Just listening to Biden babble on the tube – is he for real – sounds like he’s in a different place than the rest of us – talking about sisters & girl girls and girl boys – huh???
bbl – gotta run to the grocery store deli – gotta pick up veggie trays for tomorrow – election judges in my ward do a potluck of food for the whole day -starts at 6:00 am and goes until the last voter in line votes – gonna be a long one I believe –
Will see if I have any luck in talking anyone into voting for mcpalin…………….cashiers, etc. – never know – sometimes they listen, sometimes they just turn away………..
snowtiger007 11.03.08 at 11:17 am
Yo PUMAS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Are we ready? ARE we ready? ARE WE REAdY!!!???!!!!!
DAMN RIGHT WE ARE!!!!!!!!!! VICTORY IS OURS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMGzxfumjzA (ROCKY THEME )
FOR TRUTH JUSTICE DEMOCRACY AND ALL THE GENERATIONS TO COME LETS GET OUT THERE AND GET BUSY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ontherocks 11.03.08 at 11:18 am
No matter the outcome (But McCain will WIN!) PUMAs have opened up a world of new voices and ideas. We have so much to offer each other. We can continue to fight the good fight no matter who is in office.
I would love to see the largest protest ever if BO gets selected to be the POTUS.
justnotright 11.03.08 at 11:18 am
Re: Voting the Republican ticket… depends on the State and the representative. We need to shore up Democratic moderates and Hillary holdouts.
DancesWithPumas 11.03.08 at 11:19 am
murphy 11.03.08 at 10:59 am
dwp — our goals, starting Nov 5th:
1. Fight the dnc leadership — dean, brazile, all of them — OUT
2. Fight the sexist, lying, misogynistic media — all of it, by standing up to it and being an alternative to it.
3. Investgate the CRIMINAL FRAUD and OTHER CRIMES committed by Obama and his employees for the last 18 months
4. Support and lobby GOOD democrats in congress so this never happens again.
plus other stuff like this.
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Thank you!! Just the reinforcement I needed to hear!
Your post is another winner! You’re on FIRE!! We’re ignited!!
wontbackdown 11.03.08 at 11:20 am
PUMAS I have some encouraging news that may be “THE TREND” in these last few weeks.
I had a meeting this morning with a woman (in her late 20s. At the very end, the discussion changed to the election.
She along with most of her college friends had been big Obama supporters from the beginning – until FISA. After he flipped on that issue, they began to have “doubts” and started doing more research on his record.
When they began to find information about his record, radical associations and “his huge ego trip,” they became “undecideds” and stopped working on his behalf.
Tomorrow, she an an entire group of close to 130 people (all out of the same group of former “die-hard Obama supporters/workers” are all voting McCain/Palin (as the “less risky of the two”).
She said “Obama has been the biggest disappointment that she and most of her friends – and many of her co-workers in Obama’s campaign – have ever felt. She even said that “by early last month, we were not even going to vote, but over the last three weeks, a lot of us decided if we don’t believe in him anymore, we’d better believe in some hope for our country and get behind McCain.”
I asked her how many people she thought had also changed their minds and she said – “a lot more than the local organizers are willing to admit – and even some of them have doubts about him but just feel like they can’t turn back now.”
I think she is a part of a bigger trend. She fit the perfect profile of an Obama supporter. I was pretty shocked – and really felt sorry for her about “how stupid she felt about getting sucked into the whole Obama thing.”
ck 11.03.08 at 11:20 am
Murphy — Beautifully written, powerful post! I agree completely. Also, thanks for including the quote from riverdaughter. Indeed, if we are not completely enfranchised, then nothing else matters. I would add, if we allow the country we know and love to be stolen from under our very feet, then nothing else matters. Thank you to all PUMAs everywhere. Your courage, intelligence and devotion to this country and to one another are what have kept me going these past months, weeks, days and hours. You are the true heroes of our time.
sunnypuma 11.03.08 at 11:20 am
omg That was beautiful. Got me right in the heart. This is so important pumas, we are part of history! All our work and effort is going to shine tomorrow. Love and respect all of you! God Bless America!
TerryDo 11.03.08 at 11:20 am
NO NEED FOR A LARGE PROTEST, BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA WILL NEVER EVER WIN THE PRESIDENCY….
ontherocks 11.03.08 at 11:18 am
No matter the outcome (But McCain will WIN!) PUMAs have opened up a world of new voices and ideas. We have so much to offer each other. We can continue to fight the good fight no matter who is in office.
I would love to see the largest protest ever if BO gets selected to be the POTUS.
DancesWithPumas 11.03.08 at 11:21 am
1gypsy4mc 11.03.08 at 11:17 am
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Pookie 11.03.08 at 11:22 am
Joe the Plumber
How’s this for an analysis of OBama’s plan
Barack Obama discovers a leak under his sink, so he calls Joe the Plumber to come and fix it.
Joe drives to Obama’s house, which is located in a very nice neighborhood and where it’s clear that all the residents make more than $250,000 per year.
Joe arrives and takes his tools into the house. Joe is led to the room that contains the leaky pipe under a sink. Joe assesses the problem and tells Obama, who is standing near the door, that it’s an easy repair that will take less than 10 minutes.
Obama asks Joe how much it will cost.
Joe immediately says, “$9,500.”
“$9,500?” Obama asks, stunned. “But you said it’s an easy repair!”
“Yes, but what I do is charge a lot more to my clients who make more than $250,000 per year so I can fix the plumbing of everybody who makes less than that for free,” explains Joe.. “It’s always been my philosophy. As a matter of fact, I lobbied government to pass this philosophy as law, and it did pass earlier this year, so now all plumbers have to do business this way. It’s known as ‘Joe’s Fair Plumbing Act of 2008.’ Surprised you haven’t heard of it, senator.”
In spite of that, Obama tells Joe there’s no way he’s paying that much for a small plumbing repair, so Joe leaves.
Obama spends the next hour flipping through the phone book looking for another plumber, but he finds that all other plumbing businesses listed have gone out of business. Not wanting to pay Joe’s price, Obama does nothing.
The leak under Obama’s sink goes unrepaired for the next several days.
A week later the leak is so bad that Obama has had to put a bucket under the sink. The bucket fills up quickly and has to be emptied every hour, and there’s a risk that the room will flood, so Obama calls Joe and pleads with him to return.
Joe goes back to Obama’s house, looks at the leaky pipe, and says “Let’s see – this will cost you about $21,000.”
“A few days ago you told me it would cost $9,500!” Obama quickly fires back.
Joe explains the reason for the dramatic increase. “Well, because of the ‘Joe’s Fair Plumbing Act,’ a lot of rich people are learning how to fix their own plumbing, so there are fewer of you paying for all the free plumbing I’m doing for the people who make less than $250,000. As a result, the rate I have to charge my wealthy paying customers rises every day.
“Not only that, but for some reason the demand for plumbing work from the group of people who get it for free has skyrocketed, and there’s a long waiting list of those who need repairs. This has put a lot of my fellow plumbers out of business, and they’re not being replaced – nobody is going into the plumbing business because they know they won’t make any money. I’m hurting now too – all thanks to greedy rich people like you who won’t pay their fair share.”
Obama tries to straighten out the plumber: “Of course you’re hurting, Joe! Don’t you get it? If all the rich people learn how to fix their own plumbing and you refuse to charge the poorer people for your services, you’ll be broke, and then what will you do?”
Joe immediately replies, “Run for president, apparently.
murphy 11.03.08 at 11:23 am
from email”
“I was a Hillary supporter that is now supporting McCain/Palin – I have been a lurker
- I feel that I am computer illerate so I did not want to blog but I have been on
the site from the beginning and that is why I am sending you this email now –
This will be my last night on line until November 12th – we are leaving tomorrow for
a 10 day vacation, which is very much needed, and I won’t have access to a computer
- I just wanted to let every PUMA know that they have been such a support group to
me during this election and I can’t thank you or them enough – You all have made me
laugh and cry, you have picked me up when things looked really bad and made me jump
with joy everytime the news was good – I am so appreciative of all of you – I hope
the web site will still be going strong even after the election -
This has been the worst election I have ever witnessed and I have to say that I am
very frightened for our Country – I am in total amazement at how corrupt the MSM has
been, how stupid the American citizens have been and how dishonest Barack Obama has
been – I have never seen anyone get away with so much – it makes you wonder where
all that money really came from and who he owes and at what price the USA has been
sold for – no one seems to care who his associations have been with, what Country he
was born in and why he has no friends except corrupt, radical ones -
My husband is a small business owner and we will be o.k. – we are close to retiring
and have decided to close our business down before we will give away half of what we
bring in – we have four employees and we pay them more than a fair wage, we pay 60%
of their health care and give them bonuses everytime we have a good month or two -
we are very generous and appreciative of our employees but we refuse to give our
money to the government – we want to give our money to the charities that mean
something to us -
Thanks again for everything you and the PUMAs have done – I have been in complete
awe of your ingenuity, your hard work and your persistence – All of you are the best”
just.words... 11.03.08 at 11:23 am
mountainsong 11.03.08 at 11:15 am
Excellent analogy of our PUMA FIRE functioning as the backfire that will steal all of NObama’s tinder!
It is no coincidence that raging fires and powerful PUMA’s make the same sound:
ROOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRR!!!
justnotright 11.03.08 at 11:23 am
wontbackdown
It’s a domino effect.. the more Democrats see that its okay and they won’t be dragged through the mud for voting McCain, the more Democrats will jump off the Obama bandwagon
mountainsong 11.03.08 at 11:23 am
Alice Rodham Puma That guy needs to be more precise and look his listening audience directly in the eye.
TXRepGirl 11.03.08 at 11:24 am
#15… saving the planet, which Obama-Ayers doesn’t care a wit about. He’s just using all of those things to talk sheeple into policies that MAKE NO SENSE!
1gypsy4mc 11.03.08 at 11:24 am
Everyone Look at Grizzly’s post concerning the Coal Industry – add it to your letters. We need to get this out if you can help!! Thanks!!
In Obama’s own words – he will bankrupt the American coal industry !!!!!
Hidden Audio: Obama Tells SF Chronicle He Will Bankrupt Coal Industry : http://newsbusters.org/blogs/p-j-gladnick/2008/11/02/hidden-audio-obama-tells-sf-chronicle-he-will-bankrupt-coal-industry
BIG BROTHER Obama wants Government “Price Signals” “Change Your Behavior”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bueCxeXZAUU
snowtiger007 11.03.08 at 11:25 am
wontbackdown
That is so good to hear. I had roughly the same thing with a couple of college kids who WERE going to vote for Carpathia. I posted on it last night.
The trend is there. Where are you located, I am in the Sacramnento ca. area.
justnotright 11.03.08 at 11:25 am
murphy
wow, just wow!
kat in your hat 11.03.08 at 11:29 am
Ooops. Obama just called Florida “Ohio”…then a good 1/3 of the crowd booed. lol.
I am sure the obots will forgive him.
BigCatLover 11.03.08 at 11:31 am
murphy 11.03.08 at 10:59 am
Right on Murphy, I can fight for those goals.
TXRepGirl 11.03.08 at 11:33 am
Grizzly #24. On the Muslim connection. This is something I read about Obama’s name…
What Does The Term “Buraq” Mean?
a. “… a light will shine through that window, a beam of light will come down upon you, you will experience an epiphany … and you will suddenly realize that you must go to the polls and vote for Obama” – Barack Obama Lebanon, New Hampshire. January 7, 2008.
( http://obamamessiah.blogspot.com/ )
b. The Latin term for “light bringer” is Lucifer
( http://www.answers.com/topic/lucifer ), a mythical personage to whom Saul Alinsky (the father of community organizing) dedicated his epic Rules for Radicals. ( http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Saul_Alinsky ) It was Saul Alinsky’s book Rules for Radicals that so influenced Obama * that he mastered it to the extent that he eventually taught its lessons to other prospective “community organizers.”
( http://www.Frontpagemag.com/articles/Read.aspx?GUID=D6E27ECE-9798-4F01-A378-3F1405F69704 – )
Nevertheless, it is interesting that Rules for Radicals was a book that Alinsky ironically dedicated to Lucifer, “the very first radical.” As Alinsky stated, “From all our legends, mythology, and history (and who is to know where mythology leaves off and history begins – or which is which), the first radical known to man who rebelled against the establishment and did it so effectively that he at least won his own kingdom – Lucifer.” ( http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Saul_Alinsky http://209.157.64.200/focus/f-news/2078653/replies?c=1 ) Biblically, Lucifer is considered to be the same personage as Satan. (compare Isaiah 14:9-16 KJV with Revelation 12:7-9) ( http://sol.sci.uop.edu/~jfalward/Lucifer.htm ) It was Satan who tempted Christ with the kingdoms of this world (Matt. 4: 8-10.) , which would in effect turn a spiritual messiah into a secular (or political) messiah, i.e., a community organizer such as Barack Hussein Obama.
Satan is said fall “as lightning” from heaven. (Luke 10:18) ( http://sol.sci.uop.edu/~jfalward/Lucifer.htm )
c. The Arabic word for “lightning” is “al-buraaq”. [note: the similarity to the name "Barack"] ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buraq ) The “Buraq” was a mythical creature from Islamic tradition. It was said to have been a creature from the heavens, which in the 7th century, carried the prophet Muhammad from Mecca to Jerusalem and back during the Isra and Miraj (Night Journey), which is the title of one of the chapters of the Qur’an. [again note: the similarity to the name "Barack"] ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buraq ) The “Buraq” was an “animal white and long, larger than a donkey but smaller than a mule.” [note: the similarity to the symbol of the Democrat Party] ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buraq )
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“Many people seem to the names “Barack” and “Obama” are African names. They are not. “
“Baraq [Barack] was the name of the winged horse-like creature that took Mohammed to Paradise in the Night Journey. Baraq can also mean God’s blessing.”
“Hussein reminds some Americans of Saddam Hussein, and Obama’s supporters get upset if it is used. Hussein was the name of Mohammed’s grandson.”
“Obama is Swahili for Osama, who was one of Mohammed’s chief warriors. . . . “
“So Obama’s entire name is based upon Islamic mythology and African conquest. [Thus,]
Barack Hussein Obama (Osama)
means
[Allah's blessing] [Mohammed's grandson] [One of Mohammed's finest warriors]. “
( http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/09/barack_obama_and_slavery.html [sequence rearranged])
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No wonder al-Qaeda named its website al-Buraq !
(from: http://www.perspectives.com/forums/view_topic.php?id=190123&forum_id=91 )
NewOrleansPuma 11.03.08 at 11:33 am
Murphy: The best Battle Charge Cry yet! Thank you.
Grizzly 11.03.08 at 11:34 am
Murphy and Dances –
One of the comments I posted a day or two ago looks like it is getting picked up by some other blogs. I emailed it around, and it was reprinted in its entirety here:
http://writingcompany.blogs.com/this_isnt_writing_its_typ/
(“Spectre”)
I am reposting here, in case anyone else wants to take it and run with it:
We have a clear idea of what Barak Obama means by “change”:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iivL4c_3pck
Redistribution is not equality. The concept of redistribution necessitates first the seizure of the subject of the redistribution by the state and second the reapportionment of that subject as the state deems fit. In effect, taking property or rights belonging to one group to grant to another at the whim of those in charge of the effort.
And when you redistribute resources, you block the creation of new resources.
The Constitution recognizes that all are created as equals, and possess inalienable rights such as life liberty and the right to pursue a way of life that brings them happiness. The duty of government is thus to insure a level playing field that allows all to pursue their dreams without government interference.
By Obama’s own admission, the Constitution remains an impediment to his dream. The Constitution, in Obama’s own words is fundamentally flawed:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11OhmY1obS4
Barack Obama complains that the Constitution is a “charter of negative liberties”. That’s because the Constitution was intended as a limiting document, to curtail the power of the federal government vis-a-vis the states and the individual. The founders intended at the time to limit the reach of the federal government, and built the Constitution accordingly. Government was structured so as not to limit the rights of the people, but to protect them.
Again, the mere hint of “redistribution” necessitates taking from one to give to another. It goes well beyond the bounds of simple socialism, and treads firmly in the territory of communism. “From each according to his abilities, and to each according to his needs”. Karl Marx.
There is no question that Obama’s remarks were in the context of advocating socialism. To lament the failure of the judicial system in not being the vehicle to effect wealth redistribution coupled with identifying the “failures” of the Constitution in this regard reveals a candidate that blows past socialism. Obama is advocating unabashed Marxism.
There is a contemporary example of wealth redistribution we can all take a look at. Zimbabwe. The seizure of property owned by “white” citizens transferred to the “black” majority has, in 8 years, led to an inflation rate of over 1 trillion percent. The system of redistribution is, in and of itself, inherently corrupt. It breeds corruption. Zimbabwe has gone form one of the most stable economies in the world with the title “the breadbasket of Africa” to a ruined country dependent on UN food aid.
Redistribution dictates the elimination of civil liberties – no more property rights. It turns the Constitution on its head; it shreds it to pieces. Rather than limiting government power, redistribution empowers government. The government no longer is an entity of the people, by the people or for the people – government becomes the omnipotent purveyor of all. Citizens become subjects of the government and exist for the benefit of the government. Independence becomes dependence. The government no longer serves the people; the people now serve the government.
So how will a President Obama pursue that agenda? In two parts, first, he will defund the military : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRGru2CPC4E
Second, he will create a civilian Security force, “just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded” as our military forces: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fO-usAlqak
With a weakened and stretched military stretched across the globe, Obama’s Civilian Security Force will be free to enforce his priorities here, in the name of “security”.
Our Country is at a critical crossroads. And we will be deciding our future fate on Tuesday. Our forefathers
also faced momentus issues during their lifetimes. It was their principled stand, their unwillingness to negotiate away their basic human rights, that gave birth to this great nation. We will decide whether we too are men and women of principle; men and women who choose not to waver in the face of distressing times or peril; men and women who believe freedom is not negotiable.
“They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security.”
Benjamin Franklin
Stand by your principles. And remember the sacrifice of all those who have gone before you – the men and women who were willing to give all for the freedoms we enjoy in our United States.
kat in your hat 11.03.08 at 11:34 am
Hey look at the headline for Drudge “Ready to Roar!”
http://www.drudgereport.com/
ontherocks 11.03.08 at 11:35 am
murphy 11.03.08 at 10:59 am
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Good goals. Puams can get it done.
TerryDo 11.03.08 at 11:36 am
How come Obama gets so much time, does he deliberately prolong his dumb teleprompter speeches, to force networks to keep his regurgitation that goes on and on and on!
Bringing up his mother again, he was not even there when she died. LIAR LIAR
Pookie 11.03.08 at 11:40 am
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wewillwin 11.03.08 at 11:40 am
Today is the last day. FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT!!!!
Everyone who is lurking. PLEASE GO VOTE!!! No matter what the media is saying, no matter what the polls are saying, we CAN WIN THIS if you VOTE!!!
YOU HAVE TO VOTE!!!
P.S Also, know exactly where you are suppose to vote, some people have been getting misleading information. Call your officials if you do not know where to vote (or are not sure).
PLEASE…………VOTE FOR MCCAIN!!!
mountainsong 11.03.08 at 11:40 am
Yesterday was interesting. First I met this wack who says he is a member of the Aryan Nations. He said they don’t care which one wins the elcetion because the whole scenario plays into their overall strategy and that it’s causing their membership to explode with new members. Among other things. He said because BO is of mixed blood, his lineage is polluted and he will burn in hell.
I said that’s kinda crazy. He sid I didn’t have to worry cuz I’m blond and blue. I said yeah, but I’m hjalf native american so he says I’m impure too and going weith BO. I said, Bullshit, a**hole!!!
Then I talked with a group of lesbian friends who are changing over to MCcAin. I was telling them about PUMA and all the sexism and misogyny in BO’s campaign. Reminded them what happened to Hillary, and that BO believes marriage is only between a man and a woman. They got pretty fired up, lol, to say the least and I’m sure they are talking with others today.
Then Iwent to a Wmens’ AA meeting where I was the chairperson.
We aren’t supposed to talk about outside issues, but we CAN talk about whatever might be bothering us that might lead us to picking up a drink. So I got on my soapbox about how upset this election and the false prophet has made me and all the reasons why. LOL
Then I went to the Post Office to check my mail and plastered the lobby of the place with flyers. Everywhere I went I plastered with flyers. And then at home I sent out a gazillion emails it seemed like.
And I told EVERYONE, that if you are of any other race than AA, and are called a racist, then it is your human responsibility to vote against Obama who encourages nothing but hate and division.
And guess what?
Today, I get to do it all over again!!! Not ‘have to’ but “GET TO”. Remember~~~there are other countries where that is not a liberty!!!
murphy 11.03.08 at 11:40 am
Dont forget to wear orange to the polls tomorrow.
EWard 11.03.08 at 11:40 am
Hello Pumas,
Prowls – made phone bank calls to FL & CO – most people were not at home….however, three people were voting for McCain and 0 for BO.
I’m going to spend the next two days GOTV for McCain/Palin. The audiotape of the Coal Industry is having an impact.
Anna 7000
I have your talking points for McCain at my fingertips. Great job!
Will check in again…
DancesWithPumas 11.03.08 at 11:41 am
# 46 “from email”
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Made me cry…
have cried more since June than I have in the past 3.5 years.
Fire up!
Wheels up!
Tower cleared, Puma Nation!
Rise, rise, rise!!!!!!!!!!
justnotright 11.03.08 at 11:42 am
Ohio Coal Association Says Obama Remarks Make It Clear: Obama Ticket Not Supportive of Coal
COLUMBUS, Ohio, Nov 03, 2008 /PRNewswire–USNewswire via COMTEX/ — Mike Carey, president of the Ohio Coal Association (OCA), today issued the following statement in response to just-released remarks from Senator Barack Obama about the nation’s coal industry.
“Regardless of the timing or method of the release of these remarks, the message from the Democratic candidate for President could not be clearer: the Obama-Biden ticket spells disaster for America’s coal industry and the tens of thousands of Americans who work in it.
“These undisputed, audio-taped remarks, which include comments from Senator Obama like ‘I haven’t been some coal booster’ and ‘if they want to build [coal plants], they can, but it will bankrupt them’ are extraordinarily misguided.
“It’s evident that this campaign has been pandering in states like Ohio, Virginia, West Virginia, Indiana and Pennsylvania to attempt to generate votes from coal supporters, while keeping his true agenda hidden from the state’s voters.
“Senator Obama has revealed himself to be nothing more than a short- sighted, inexperienced politician willing to say anything to get a vote. But today, the nation’s coal industry and those who support it have a better understanding of his true mission, to ‘bankrupt’ our industry, put tens of thousands out of work and cause unprecedented increases in electricity prices.
“In addition to providing an affordable, reliable source of low-cost electricity, domestic coal holds the key to our nation’s long-term energy security – a goal that cannot be overlooked during this time of international instability and economic uncertainty.
“Few policy areas are more important to our economic future than energy issues. As voters head to the polls tomorrow, it is essential they remember that access to reliable, affordable, domestic energy supplies is essential to economic growth and stability.”
The Ohio Coal Association (OCA) is a non-profit trade association representing the interests of Ohio’s underground and surface coal mining producers. The OCA represents nearly 40 coal producing companies and more than 50 Associate Members, which include suppliers and consultants to the mining industry, coal sales agents and brokers and allied industries. The Ohio Coal Association is committed to advancing the development and utilization of Ohio coal as an abundant, economic and environmentally sound energy source.
murphy 11.03.08 at 11:42 am
mountainsong #63 — “Today, I get to do it all over again!!! Not ‘have to’ but “GET TO”. Remember~~~there are other countries where that is not a liberty!!!”
exactly. beautiful.
GoSarahGo 11.03.08 at 11:43 am
Let us pray (and pray HARD) that tomorrow, the term “PUMA effect” will have entered the American lexicon as the determinate influence on McCain’s win.
But win or lose, there’s a lot to do. Personally, I have left the Dem party (more correctly, they have left me) and I have cut off all of my ties to any in-the-tank media (I’m getting used to doing without my Sunday paper!)
Now it’s time for me to do more to help spread the word. The MSM has commited treason against the American people in this election and I’m going to direct most of my efforts in exposing the corrupt media for what they are.
Caroline 11.03.08 at 11:43 am
Morning, Pumas.
Tomorrow is going to be a big day in your history. This election is about the future of the United States and the world. You are also fighting for the democracy and freedom of the world. I hope McCain win. He will be a resnposible leader for the world.
Americans have saved this great country several times before, I believe you will save her again. The reasons I admire the United States are the great people and great values in this country.
taggles1 11.03.08 at 11:44 am
I’ll wear my one and only orange shirt, which happens to be the Puma Pac Howard We’re NOT Coming Home t-shirt!
DancesWithPumas 11.03.08 at 11:44 am
#57 Grizzly 11.03.08 at 11:34 am
Good Job, Spectre of the Grizzly!!!
freddiebrown 11.03.08 at 11:44 am
Flyers:
If anyone has any flyers left, please don’t hold back. Please use it up. If you don’t know what else to do with it, just go up the tallest building and confetti it out the window. Of course don’t get caught.
Grizzly 11.03.08 at 11:45 am
mountainsong -
Great posts, and great work! It is an honor and privilege to work with you here.
Gotta go start some more “backfires” now.
Beca4Hillary 11.03.08 at 11:45 am
Murphy,
I was wearing orange and my PUMA shoes Friday when I went to vote! Felt good!
GoPumaGo 11.03.08 at 11:46 am
A small part of George Washingtons farewell address which you can find easy using google. That he could talk about parties as causing a take over by another country I find disturbing as I watch it happening here. he talks about a dictatorahip.
I am encouraged by the coming together of the Democratic PUMA with the Republicans as helping to heal some of the great divide caused by Parties. I get this gut feeling that the USA has not long to survive the bitter division caused by Obama and parties. We and our fighting are the cause of the loss of our country. We must learn to love each other. Love is Freedom.
here is a part of Washingtons farewell address
I have already intimated to you the danger of parties in the State, with particular reference to the founding of them on geographical discriminations. Let me now take a more comprehensive view, and warn you in the most solemn manner against the baneful effects of the spirit of party generally.
The alternate domination of one faction over another, sharpened by the spirit of revenge, natural to party dissension, which in different ages and countries has perpetrated the most horrid enormities, is itself a frightful despotism. But this leads at length to a more formal and permanent despotism. The disorders and miseries which result gradually incline the minds of men to seek security and repose in the absolute power of an individual; and sooner or later the chief of some prevailing faction, more able or more fortunate than his competitors, turns this disposition to the purposes of his own elevation, on the ruins of public liberty.
It serves always to distract the public councils and enfeeble the public administration. It agitates the community with ill-founded jealousies and false alarms, kindles the animosity of one part against another, foments occasionally riot and insurrection. It opens the door to foreign influence and corruption, which finds a facilitated access to the government itself through the channels of party passions. Thus the policy and the will of one country are subjected to the policy and will of another.
no1what 11.03.08 at 11:46 am
Comment by Dixie – Yes that’s my real name
November 3rd, 2008 at 11:09 am
What our world will come to if Obama is selected (not elected).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XivNwQ76mCs
The day after he is selected:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVgAi4-LgCY
Please enjoy.
McCain/Palin ‘08
DancesWithPumas 11.03.08 at 11:46 am
taggles1 11.03.08 at 11:44 am
I’ll wear my one and only orange shirt, which happens to be the Puma Pac Howard We’re NOT Coming Home t-shirt!
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Same here, although I was planning on wearing my “Vote Puma” shirt, but don’t want to risk being turned away at the poll.
YooHooooo…. oh, Howieeeeeeeee….
WE’RE. NOT. COMING. HOME.
Grizzly 11.03.08 at 11:46 am
DancesWithPumas 11.03.08 at 11:44 am
#57 Grizzly 11.03.08 at 11:34 am
Good Job, Spectre of the Grizzly!!!
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Oooohh! I LIKE it!
TerryDo 11.03.08 at 11:47 am
DOESN’T OBAMA EVER STFU….
THE BULL SHI* THAT SPEWS OUT OF HIS MOUTH IS NAUSEATINGLY
YEA! OBAMA KNOW HE IS GOING TO LOSE THE GENERAL ELECTION
AND WE CAN SHIP HIM BACK TO CHICAGO.
FUC* ING EGOMANIAC, IT IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH THAT OBAMA WILL CHANGE AMERICA HE WANTS TO CHANGE THE WORLD.
no1what 11.03.08 at 11:47 am
Comment by TB
November 3rd, 2008 at 11:31 am
OBAMA JUST CALLED FLORIDA OIHIO!!! AND IS LIEING ABOUT MC.
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Woodie 11.03.08 at 11:48 am
I would think that obama should be dealt with with regards to his citizenship. As I understand when all is said and done, he is an illegal alien like his auntie and as he said she should be dealt with according to the law. Otherwise he will play havoc in other ways if he is not elected president, if you know what I mean…
bmw60 11.03.08 at 11:48 am
Murphy… #46 Your sharing that email… brought tears to my eyes… crying now….. thank you for sharing that with us all… we all need to know that we are appreciated especially at this juncture in American history!
mick 11.03.08 at 11:48 am
Wow, this blog is rockin’ … with making phone calls, emailing, etc., I can’t keep up here.
Re-post from downstairs -
slyt2 #543
What a smartass twit!
Email him back and tell him you found it in spite of people like him not doing his “investigative” reporting job.
Woodie 11.03.08 at 11:49 am
MORE LIKE SHIP HIM OUT OF THE COUNTRY…..:))
snowtiger007 11.03.08 at 11:49 am
Great version of the Rocky theme with Uma Thurman from KIll Bill
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXeDfXJ5Cx0&feature=related
Yes I am in a Rocky mood today.
Rocky 2 btw, cause he won in that one.
snowtiger007 11.03.08 at 11:51 am
DancesWithPumas
I’m wearing mt Hillary buttons. After all she isn’t candidate so its not a political statement. AND I DARE THEM TO TRY AND TURN ME AWAY.
Better have swat standing by,
no1what 11.03.08 at 11:51 am
A Little History
—Slublog
Have I mentioned how much I love the PUMAs?
Just a few reminders of what was being said before the 2004 election:
Zogby’s call? Kerry, 311; Bush, 213.
The electoral vote call made by one of those aggregating sites?
Electoral Vote (based on composite polls) – Kerry 298, Bush 231
NBC’s Chuck Todd was so confident of a Kerry win, he called the race in May 2004:
If you look at key indicators beyond the neck-and-neck support for the two candidates in the polls–such as high turnout in the early Democratic primaries and the likelihood of a high turnout in November–it seems improbable that Bush will win big. More likely, it’s going to be Kerry in a rout.
Seems his “first read” was a wrong one.
Polls are not science, pundits are not psychic and nothing is decided until the final ballot is cast tomorrow.
Or, in the event of a narrow McCain win, until the Obama lawyers lose their final appeal to the Supreme Court.
http://ace.mu.nu/
DancesWithPumas 11.03.08 at 11:52 am
Grizzly 11.03.08 at 11:46 am
DancesWithPumas 11.03.08 at 11:44 am
#57 Grizzly 11.03.08 at 11:34 am
Good Job, Spectre of the Grizzly!!!
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Oooohh! I LIKE it!
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You are hereby officially annointed.
Rise, Spectre of the Grizzly, rise!
kat in your hat 11.03.08 at 11:53 am
Here’s GOP’s “meet barack obama” in case you haven’t seen it. Lots of stuff.
http://www.meetbarackobama.com/
murphy 11.03.08 at 11:53 am
holy smokes gopumago #76. I’d never read that before.
that’s incredibly descriptive of EXACTLY what obama has done.
DancesWithPumas 11.03.08 at 11:54 am
snowtiger007 11.03.08 at 11:51 am
DancesWithPumas
I’m wearing mt Hillary buttons. After all she isn’t candidate so its not a political statement. AND I DARE THEM TO TRY AND TURN ME AWAY.
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Smart!
SWAT and PUMA Swipe.
ladyhawkke 11.03.08 at 11:54 am
Great Post Murphy. I’m proud to be a Puma and know we have made a huge difference. Listened to blog talk radio last night with Lynette Long, Rudy, Lady Lynn, Will, it was great. Dr. Long begged everyone to vote for McCain/Palin, that our country depends on it.
Am reposting this regarding the Puma Factor: http://www.marstonchronicles.info/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=94&Itemid=118
#51 Gypsy4Mc Who else is left to send it to, it went viral yesterday and it’s all over the news. I have other damaging video, such as the Odinga/Obama connection but no one seems to want to touch it. I’ve sent every negative thing I could find on BO to the media and McCain/Palin and the GOP.
McCain-PalinGuy 11.03.08 at 11:55 am
Cheer up, PUMAs!! McCain/Palin is the winning ticket!!!
kat in your hat 11.03.08 at 11:55 am
Biden’s Florida Rally Disrupted by Protesters
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/11/bidens-florida.html
EWard 11.03.08 at 11:55 am
#40 wontbackdown
Kudos to your post! This is another piece of the puzzle/anecdoctal evidence that Bozo’s empire is slowly coming apart.
kevink 11.03.08 at 11:55 am
Is it time to hammer the LA Times again?
Asian4Hillary 11.03.08 at 11:55 am
Talking to someone right now on the phone, asking the person to wake up early tomorrow and vote straight republican ticket.
AniEm 11.03.08 at 11:56 am
I intend to “let it roar” with my vote for McCain/Palin.
Thank you, Murphy, for all your good work and encouragement. PUMA was an essential haven to counteract the fraud, the deception and demoralization engineered by the Obama campaign.
PUMA for the USA!
1gypsy4mc 11.03.08 at 11:56 am
ladyhawkke Just Wyoming – they were not posted in the Action Center and according to all the information Grizzly pulled up, they are the #1 state leading the coal industry. Thanks – They need to know it also!!
greenfun 11.03.08 at 11:57 am
This is it PUMAS-now or never
JOIN US!
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Pookie 11.03.08 at 11:57 am
no1what#77: I sent that to my email friends and also the day after Bo is selected I don’t know if that will happen that way or not but there are hundreds of people who are counting on it to happen that way.Remember the video of the AA lady who said Bo would put gas in her car and pay her mortgage if needed? My daughter said some of the single girls at work were saying that was why they were voting for him and these girls are not AA, they are buying his pie in the sky, free ice cream talk.
murphy 11.03.08 at 11:57 am
kevink — YES!
no1what 11.03.08 at 11:58 am
found this posted on the Drudge:
http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/Ohio-Coal-Association-Says-Obama/story.aspx?guid=%7BDFD1EBEB-73EC-4661-B8BA-40D8EBD7D93D%7D
snowtiger007 11.03.08 at 11:58 am
Blast from the past

This is my reply from Ed Shucltz the radio big mouth.
I am printing this and keeping it in a frame after McCAin wins.
Also I will send him another letter.
How about if I boycott you…f-off
Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 12:46 PM
To: ed@edschultzshow.com
Subject: Comments
Political whore? Empty skirt?
I will be boycotting your advertisers. You are vile.
Woodie 11.03.08 at 11:58 am
I AM CAUCASIAN ????
1gypsy4mc 11.03.08 at 11:58 am
military absentee ballots My brother said there are thousands that will not be counted – many in VA!! Don’t forget!!
mick 11.03.08 at 12:01 pm
wontbackdown #40
WOW, THAT’S GREAT NEWS!!! Let’s hope that that is the trend all over the country!
will13smith 11.03.08 at 12:01 pm
Final Mason-Dixon battleground numbers: dead heat
Jonathan Martin notes at Politico that the battleground states appear to have all reached a dead-heat conclusion — with lots of undecideds — in the last Mason-Dixon polling.
Colorado: Obama 49, McCain 44, Undecided 4
Florida: Obama 47, McCain 45, Undecided 7
Nevada: Obama 47, McCain 43, Undecided 8
Pennsylvania: Obama 47, McCain 43, Undecided 9
Virginia: Obama 47, McCain 44, Undecided 9
Ohio: McCain 47, Obama 45, Undecided 6
Missouri: McCain 47, Obama 46, Undecided 5
North Carolina: McCain 49, Obama 46, Undecided 5
As Brad Coker, who runs the Mason-Dixon poll, notes, the vast majority of the undecided voters in these states are whites.
GoPumaGo 11.03.08 at 12:01 pm
mountainsong 11.03.08 at 11:40 am
Then Iwent to a Wmens’ AA meeting where I was the chairperson.
We aren’t supposed to talk about outside issues, but we CAN talk about whatever might be bothering us that might lead us to picking up a drink. So I got on my soapbox about how upset this election and the false prophet has made me and all the reasons why. LOL
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Next meeting tell them that anyone who votes for O Boo Boo has had a slip and must start all over with a one day chip and detox from the Kool Aid.
Then tell them the good part. Anyone who votes for Palin gets an extra month or year added to their clean time.
There are enough members that we could have a landslide for McCain.
catsarepumas 11.03.08 at 12:02 pm
That statement by the Ohio Coal Association is BIG. It will play a big part it turning around the vote in Ohio. Fox New talked about the tape yesterday, but PUMA’s fired it up and blew it on its way.
((((((pumas))))))
1gypsy4mc 11.03.08 at 12:03 pm
military absentee ballots
Express your feelings to the state directly:
Virginia State Board of Elections
Suite 101, 200 North 9th Street, Richmond, Virginia 23219-3485
Telephone: 804 864-8901 Toll Free: 800 552-9745 FAX: 804 371-0194
GoPumaGo 11.03.08 at 12:03 pm
As Brad Coker, who runs the Mason-Dixon poll, notes, the vast majority of the undecided voters in these states are whites.
I aint met an undecided black man yet.
wontbackdown 11.03.08 at 12:04 pm
justnotright:
You know, the sad part is – I really have been angry with a lot of these younger people about their total uninformed delusions – but after speaking with this young woman for 20 minutes on how they really believed in him, I understand a lot more.
The best part is: It appears to me that the 600 million man not only spent too much on his public-personification, but his constant staging and orchestration of all that BS seems to have backfired. (She termed him an “egomaniac”, “egotistical”, “full of himself” and “he’s become a little scary” during our conversation)
—————————–
snowtiger: Texas – (She said they felt like they had wasted a year of their lives – that they had worked nights and weekends all throughout the primary and then a lot of them had actually traveled to other states or became friends and coordinated with others in other states during weekends.
(Now about 30 to 40 of them make phone calls for McCain every night and when they get a caller or leave a message they tell them – “Don’t make the same mistake we made!” Don’t you love it! Thank God, they are resilient!)
I gave her PUMAS SITE and she said she knew about “PUMAS”, but had been told to “Just ignore Pumas” – and she had never thought about looking PUMA sites until now.
Dragonfly 11.03.08 at 12:05 pm
murphy at 7 -
roar on sister! Thank you so much for dedicating your time and passion to rebuilding democracy. Let the prairie fire continue.
$$ coming to me in the next two weeks. I will contribute.
mountainsong 11.03.08 at 12:06 pm
OMG!!! I am pssing off some of my old friends. I used Grizzly’s post above and Pookies’ ‘Joe the Plumber’ LMAO I told one, ‘hey, I don’t care if you drink and don’t go to AA. But you do have to do something about all that koolaid ya been drinking. Get help, will ya!!!!”
snowtiger007 11.03.08 at 12:06 pm
GoPumaGo
Funny thing around here. I did a little poll myself yesterday and found out that roughly 75% of IR couples are voting McCAin. And at least half of black women are undecided or going McCain/Palin.
Dragonfly 11.03.08 at 12:06 pm
I think one of the racist (stereotyping) things that has happened in this cycle is the assumption that all people of color will vote Obama. I have heard several African-American men say that their Christian faith causes them to question voting for Obama and they are decided on McCain.
DancesWithPumas 11.03.08 at 12:07 pm
“Just ignore Pumas”
Love it. Better than having them fighting to discredit us.
Just ignore that leak in your roof…
until the whole dang thing comes crashing down on your head!
wewillwin 11.03.08 at 12:07 pm
Caroline #70
Thank you for believing in us and our country.
McCain08
FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT!!!! Say prayers for a McCain Victory!!!
Don’t forget to light candles tonight for McCain. (say prayers, send positive energy……)
snowtiger007 11.03.08 at 12:08 pm
wontbackdown
Just ignore PUMAS? rofl.
As if anyone could.:)
Dragonfly 11.03.08 at 12:09 pm
Ed Schultz is an asshole
Dragonfly 11.03.08 at 12:09 pm
Sorry to curse, but after reading snowtiger007’s comment, I couldn’t resist.
Pookie 11.03.08 at 12:10 pm
So Bo is in the lead 5 out of 8 states ?
murphy 11.03.08 at 12:10 pm
from dakinikat at Riverdaughter’s place. This series RD is publishing, My Voting Strategy, is EXCELLENT.
“So I have examined the words, the actions, and the experience of Senator Barack Obama. While the speeches are well written and very well delivered, I see nothing in him to give me faith that he can bring a better tomorrow. I look back to his first campaigns and see that he ran unopposed because he had his opponents–including an important mentor–disqualified on technicalites. I look back to his senatorial campaign, only two years ago, and find that his opponent’s sealed divorce records mysteriously opened. Divorce records sealed to protect small children. I see some one whose home was bought with the help of a felon. I see some one who cannot produce his own legislative records and whose voting record is made up of few decisions and accomplishments not his own, but handed to him by some one else. I see speeches with borrowed words on teleprompters. I see off teleprompter moments with mistakes made that would flunk a freshman. I see bristly, offended looks when asked tough questions. I see reporters tossed off planes when newspapers endorse other candidates. I see long term associations with folks that I would chase off if they came near my children. I’ve seen misogyny and race-baiting. I’ve seen money go to organizations breaking laws and perpetuating fraud. When I look for the simplest public records, I find nothing. I see only carefully crafted stories.”
read the whole thing at:
http://riverdaughter.wordpress.com/2008/11/03/my-voting-strategy-a-better-tomorrow/#more-8092
kevink 11.03.08 at 12:10 pm
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no1what 11.03.08 at 12:11 pm
As you’re standing in line waiting to vote I want you to sing the “Hopey Dopey” song.
Do the “Hopey Dopey” Dance
You put your paycheck in, you take your paycheck out,
You put your paycheck in and you shake it all about.
You do the hopey dopey and you spread the wealth around, that’s what welfares all about.
You put your ACORNS in, you take your ACORNS out,
you put your ACORNS in and you spread em all about.
You do the hopey dopey and you steal the votes in every Town, that’s what it’s all about.
You put your Media in, you take your Media out,
You put your Media views in and you spin them all about.
You do the hopey dopey and you send your media out, that’s what is’s all about.
Go McCain/Palin!
snowtiger007 11.03.08 at 12:11 pm
Dragonfly
One of the good things (the only?) is that a lot of people, are seeing AAs as being more than a color. I know several women who are actively supporting McCAin and have been since the beginning.
They are always amused at the presumption that they were going Bobo.
murphy 11.03.08 at 12:11 pm
gpg #113 — that’s right, and that’s why Ario is my hero.
wontbackdown 11.03.08 at 12:12 pm
snowtiger007: That’s what I did – laughed and said “as if that were possible”!
ladyhawkke 11.03.08 at 12:15 pm
GYPSY!!! I tried to send those out to your addys in #34 and it said some addresses were not recognized. What’s wrong with that ling? There must be one or two addys that are not going thru.
snowtiger007 11.03.08 at 12:16 pm
kevink
Just posted them at Team Sarah and sent them to all the activists I could get going (over 30) . They will be spreading at out and about.
Thanks for the post.
ROCK ON!!
PUMAS ON THE MARCH!!
wewillwin 11.03.08 at 12:17 pm
I am still overall feeling positive about tomorrow, but I have to admit some of those what if’s are showing their faces..
Somebody snap me out of it.
Tell me WE WILL WIN!!
Ario 11.03.08 at 12:18 pm
THANKS MICK….BY THIS TIME YALL KNOW HOW I AM
kat in your hat 11.03.08 at 12:18 pm
Ayers and Obama in regular contact says source close to Obama candidacy »http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/11/03/ayers-and-obama-in-regular-contact-says-source-close-to-obama-candidacy/
(Steve Diamond is one of those “ayers experts.”)
snowtiger007 11.03.08 at 12:18 pm
Dragonfly
He sure is. Imagine how he is going to feel hearing from me daily for weeks (more likely months) after McCAin wins/ Rofl. I haven’t forgotten the boy at all.
TXRepGirl 11.03.08 at 12:18 pm
wewillwin… go listen to this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-U9btB8FSPA
kat in your hat 11.03.08 at 12:18 pm
http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/11/03/ayers-and-obama-in-regular-contact-says-source-close-to-obama-candidacy/
@ 135
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Ario 11.03.08 at 12:19 pm
mccain….damn now he makes 72 the new 42 yall!!!!
ladyhawkke 11.03.08 at 12:19 pm
GYPSY, Never mind, I found it. You had periods instead of commas after .com It should be .com,
Prowl sent to all WY addys
mountainsong 11.03.08 at 12:19 pm
OK, everyone I’ve said it and so have others~~~No matter WHAT happens tomorrow~~PUMA IS a fact, not just something that WAS a good idea.
No matter WHAT happens tomorrow, our task is NOT finished.
This is more than just what we think or feel.
PUMA is a divinely inspired movement that occurs in the face of repression, oppression and whenever throughout the course of history that HUMAN RIGHTS are threatened. It is a NATURAL occuring phenomena whenever what is good is threatened by what is evil.
Yes, if we do not triumph tomorrow, and we feel weary and discouraged, it doesn’t mean we lost the war. We can only truly be defeated if we GIVE UP!
I don’t think that’s going to happen. Regardless of tomorrow’s outcome, our numbers are going to continue to grow, just as it has been, but even more so. Regardless of who wins the election.
Because, as Murphy posted earlier, we have a MISSION. And we have weapons of mass construction~~~Truth, LOVE, Honor, Integrity, Empathy, Compassion, Charity, Dedication and Devotion. And EACH OTHER. THIS is what America is all about!!!
So hold your heads up, keep on keeping on. And cling to the divinity of these words~~”Together we can do what none of us can do alone!”
nat 11.03.08 at 12:19 pm
For dems who don’t want to vote for Obama but have a hard time voting Repub, the following quote is appropriate (taken from a beautiful essay on thenewagenda.net)
“If you can’t walk away from the table, you have no bargaining power. If you have no alternatives, you will get nothing but crumbs.”
Our vote will no longer be taken for granted by the DNC. They must earn our votes!!!
I understand it’s hard to vote republican after being a life long democrat. If we really want BO to lose, we must vote for McCain. McCain is the better candidate.
Ario 11.03.08 at 12:20 pm
mccain is such a feisty grandad! and wel ALL LOVE FEISTYY GRANDADS!
mountainsong 11.03.08 at 12:20 pm
(((((( Brother Ario
))))))
TerryDo 11.03.08 at 12:21 pm
wewillwin 11.03.08 at 12:17 pm
I am still overall feeling positive about tomorrow, but I have to admit some of those what if’s are showing their faces..
Somebody snap me out of it.
Tell me WE WILL WIN!!
**************************
The answer is in your question. Yes, WE WILL WIN!!
Now get out there and vote, and if you have already voted make sure you duplicate yourself twice, that means go and get two people and bring them to the voting polls…
Ario 11.03.08 at 12:22 pm
could u imagaine a 30yr old mccain against that one?…lol!!!!
Pookie 11.03.08 at 12:23 pm
I did the prowl to the LA Times
just.words... 11.03.08 at 12:23 pm
wewillwin 11.03.08 at 12:17 pm
WE WILL WIN!!
Better now?
Ario 11.03.08 at 12:23 pm
mountain!!!!
hey girl!!!!!!
prplvette85 11.03.08 at 12:23 pm
sent to us in an email:
Friends,
I found several very ominous articles when clicking on one about Louis
Farrakhan. I don’t think most people have any idea who Obama is and what his
real plans are. We need to redouble our efforts to inform everyone we know.
Kenneth Timmerman reports.
Obama Ties to Farrakhan Revealed
A former top deputy to Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan tells Newsmax that
Barack Obama’s ties to the black nationalist movement in Chicago run deep, and
that for many years the two men have had “an open line between them” to discuss
policy and strategy, either directly or through intermediaries.
“Remember that for years, if you were a politician in Chicago, you had to have
some type of relationship with Louis Farrakhan. You had to. If you didn’t, you
would be ostracized out of black Chicago,” said Dr. Vibert White Jr., who spent
most of his adult life as a member and ultimately top officer of the Nation of
Islam. You can scroll down to News Max article at the bottom of this page or
click on this: Read the Full Story — Go Here Now.
Next see Farrakan talking to a large Muslim audience calling Obama a Messiah “You
are the instrument that God is going to using to bring about universal change.
When the Messiah speaks, the youth will hear. And the Messiah is speaking.”
(Somehow I don’t think this is the kind of change we Americans are going to like.)
http://election.newsmax.com/obama_messiah.html
Farakhan says”White Folks, You Owe Us the Whole Country”. Black Folks, Unite!
i http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=PWxNeGOXSoA&feature=related
Next see Libyan leader Muammar Gadhfi endorse Obama says Arab
world donations may make it possible for him to become president:
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=-aL_Dys4-tE&feature=iv&annotation_id=event_31086
Hammas terrorist state, Ahmes Yousef indorses Obama
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=poYLVIfnebc&feature=iv&annotation_id=event
Ario 11.03.08 at 12:25 pm
MOUNTAIN
BEEN BLOGGING SINCE 7 AM…..WE GONNA WIN THIS SHIT!
kevink 11.03.08 at 12:25 pm
Snowtiger-
Good idea! Thanks!
————————-
PS- it seems they had shut down some of the email addresses Friday, but keep hitting them in case they were put back up over the weekend
Fightforfreedom 11.03.08 at 12:25 pm
Rush is showing where barry shot MAC a bird after congratulating him on a hard fought race! (In jax fl)
snowtiger007 11.03.08 at 12:25 pm
Ario 11.03.08 at 12:22 pm
could u imagaine a 30yr old mccain against that one?…lol!!!
Imagine if Bush had an approval rating of 40%
It would have been over a month ago.
Seen this from B yet?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pL6mxO-BMQ
Dancer on the left is a guy btw.
justnotright 11.03.08 at 12:25 pm
wontbackdown
Obama is using tactics out of the totalitarian playbook but Americans are innately adverse to this… this will be his undoing.
Fightforfreedom 11.03.08 at 12:26 pm
watching it on ditto cam
murphy 11.03.08 at 12:26 pm
from email:
“Hi all,
I am a 51 year old male. I have been a Republican all my life. I love my
family and my country. I would most certainly die for either. Since I
found your website a couple of weeks ago I have changed. No longer do I
talk down about Democrats but instead I talk about how together good
Republicans and good democrats can come together to change the country
for the better. I will admit I have been afraid. I have been afraid of
what I thought might happen. No longer! I am not afraid today. I will
not be afraid tomorrow. Instead, I am having a great day today and
tomorrow will be better. I can’t even think of Wednesday yet because I
actually get giddy. My heart has a glow. I believe that glow is for you.
All of you. You Puma’s who decided you were going to make the world
right. My mother was like you. It is because of her that I found you. I
am certain of that. God bless you Puma’s. God bless you all and thank
you.”
justnotright 11.03.08 at 12:27 pm
Fightforfreedom
OMG he is pulling the same adolescent crap on John McCain that he did on Hillary. He is a psychopath.
mick 11.03.08 at 12:27 pm
OMG
Rush is talking about Obama has now flipped off McCain this morning just like he did to Hillary Clinton!
brb, going to see if I can find a youtube on it.
kat in your hat 11.03.08 at 12:27 pm
Fightforfreedom
I just watched Obama do that live on tv. The middle finger. That’s his style.
justnotright 11.03.08 at 12:28 pm
Fightforfreedom
WTF is wrong with him???!!!
Fightforfreedom 11.03.08 at 12:29 pm
That thug is UNBELIEVABLE!
mick 11.03.08 at 12:29 pm
Rush Limbaugh is talking about the Coal industry comments that BO made. He’s playing the entire audio interview. Now he playing a BO ad that was made to the coal industry and then Rush says it’s a 100% lie.
LOVE IT!!
NewOrleansPuma 11.03.08 at 12:30 pm
#125Murphy: I see a Fraud…since he walked out the box.
I smell a rat since he climbed out the hole.
I hear a despot since he opened up his mouth.
I feel a fact: DEFEAT Tomorrow at the Polls…that will send this Fraud, this rat, this despot because of this fact back to the hole from whence he crawled and back to the Senate to learn how to push a button to vote.
wewillwin 11.03.08 at 12:30 pm
Man, that would just be so awesome to have a McCain landslide win.
to make all their jaws drop to the floor and to hopefully wake up the media to think about how they report on elections.
(report fairly)
GO MCCAIN GO!!!!!
YES, WE WILL WIN!!!! (Thanks you guys:) )
ladyhawkke 11.03.08 at 12:31 pm
I just got an e-mail from Lady Lynn. I’m on her list from the together4us website and have personally communicated with her regarding Hillary. She just e-mailed me and said she knew who I was going to vote for but wanted me to see what she wrote for the Huffington Post:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lady-lynn-forester-de-rothschild/obamas-economic-plan_b_140002.html
marie 11.03.08 at 12:31 pm
WOWWWWWWWW TAKE A LOOK AT THIS
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/6004
Venceremo Brigades was a Cuban spy operation
Trashing Camelot: Obama’s pal Bill Ayers Violated JFK’s Cuba Embargos
SNIP-
That’s where Ayers and Dohrn and their kill-the-imperialist-pig ilk came in handy as Castro’s pawns. As previously reported, Ayers and Dohrn traveled as part of the Venceremo Brigades, ostensibly defying Kennedy’s February 1963’s travel restrictions to Cuba.
The Venceremo Brigades was a Cuban spy operation tasked to recruit “individuals who are politically oriented and who someday may obtain a position, elective or appointive, somewhere in the U.S. Government, which would provide the Cuban Government with access to political, economic and military intelligence.” (Canada Free Press)
But the Vencermos Brigades were used for other purposes too. Ayers recruited American students to help boast Cuba’s economy, by enlisting them to work in Cuba’s sugar economy to export to the Soviet Union—another violation of Kennedy’s embargos.
The FBI report provides an example. It was July 29, 1969, when Ayers, in a speech at the University of Oregon, discussed the role of the Students for a Democratic Society (SDS), (SDS split off later to become the Weatherman), in the Venceremo Brigade.
In response to student’s questions about the Vencermo Brigade, Ayers said this:
“In November and beginning January, SDS was involved in sending 150 people, both times to Cuba to cut cane, to cut sugar, as part of Cuba’s program to create, to put out 50 million, or what is it 100 million…tons of sugar.” Ayers said. “They are not being paid because they are not honkeys who need to get paid in order to do something, in order to serve the people… there will be about 75 SDS people on each trip and about 75 people recruited from the Black Panther Party and Young (illegible) organizations, and other black and brown organizations that will go to Cuba,…by going to work to create and help the Cubans create a solid economy in the face of the economic boycott by the United States, in the face of the constant threats from the United States, in fact a couple of invasions that didn’t work because the Cuban people were too well armed and well educated.
The Venceremo Brigade,” Ayers expanded, “is an idea which is an attempt to show the people of the world that…all American’s aren’t solid in their support of the economic boycott of Cuba, and so we are going to go and we are going to attempt to…help the Cubans in their efforts
snowtiger007 11.03.08 at 12:31 pm
kevink
Will do.
Oh btw, they love PUMAS at team Sarah. Lot of evangelicals though.
I wonder if I should tell them I follow the mystery traditions?
Nah.
Grizzly 11.03.08 at 12:31 pm
Hey PUMAS – found a link where you can listen to Rush and Hannity live today:
http://www.wbap.com/article.asp?id=746707
Just clicked on, and Rush is on a “coal roll”.
indy 11.03.08 at 12:31 pm
Do you know what’s starting to bother me? With all that we know about NOBAMA, how can any Democratic politician campaign for Obama?
It’s been on my mind for the last few months. Nobama is a marxist, socialist front man for Ayers and other radicals.
If I were a Democratic politician, I would not in good conscience be able to campaign for that socialist. They should put country before party, as we are.
I cannot feel the same way about some of them again. I’m not talking about Pelosi,Reid or the rest of those hypocrits. I mean those who I thought were well meaning Dems. The Clintons are being strong-armed, and I think if McCain wins, they will try to take back the Democratic Party.
I just saw Orrin Hatch on FOX and he was really adament about voters should support McCain. He went on a great rant about NOBAMA.
I was just listening to McCain and how he ends his speeches with Fight! Stand up and Fight! Stand up and Fight for your Country!
It may be a veiled message for Americans to vote for him to keep our country from being taken over from socialists.
This is THE most important election in the history of our beloved country.
GOD BLESS AMERICA
sunnypuma 11.03.08 at 12:32 pm
wow John McCain.com has there own blog room now. Pumas needed there to chase out obamabots!!!!!!!!!lol
kevink 11.03.08 at 12:32 pm
This is a better email list
prowl@pumapac.org,
readers.rep@latimes.com,
foreign@latimes.com,
metrodesk@latimes.com,
ocdesk@latimes.com,
ventura@latimes.com,
national@latimes.com,
sports@latimes.com,
health@latimes.com,
home@latimes.com,
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snowtiger007 11.03.08 at 12:33 pm
justnotright
Do we expect anything else from the Chosen one?
Everyday he just shows us why he is unfit for a leadership position of any kind.
greenfun 11.03.08 at 12:33 pm
In my email today from Ca PUMAS:
I, xxxxx, xxx,and xx went to Reno on November 1 and 2. We worked our butts
off going door to door for McCain in Reno and Carson City, Nevada. There
was a whole bus load of people who left from Sacramento. We let everyone
know we were PUMAs. So many people were thankful that we came and that
there is more of us California Hillary Dems who are working hard to elect
McCain, i.e. phone banking and going last weekend to Reno.
We met Sara Palin’s mom, dad, father-in-law, mother-in-law and her brother.
Jon Voight was there to meet us when we arrived in Reno.
Anyway, we are all working hard and there are sooo many of us nation-wide
that the polls do not include in their calculations. I believe we WILL win
tomorrow. We must have positive thoughts.
mick 11.03.08 at 12:33 pm
*** Murphy ***
Thank you for the post heading! Your words brought tears to my eyes. You and the PUMA gang are a blessed group and I’m very proud to have been a small part of this group for the last few months.
NewOrleansPuma 11.03.08 at 12:34 pm
#158 Hi to you, Republican man..all your life…and a greater hi to your mama …who obviously is a surrogate for the Holy Spirit Hit List Get Out the Vote effort in the great beyond!
kat in your hat 11.03.08 at 12:34 pm
marie, thanks. That is interesting.
(Wonder if the Kennedy family has a problem with any of this? Haven’t seen them around in a while…)
TerryDo 11.03.08 at 12:34 pm
kat in your hat 11.03.08 at 12:27 pm
Fightforfreedom
I just watched Obama do that live on tv. The middle finger. That’s his style.
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Kat in your hat, Where is the video of Obamcrap pulling his thuggery action?
Pookie 11.03.08 at 12:34 pm
We saw a video ad last night John McCain is driving and President Bush is in his rear view mirror.I wish the McCain had thought of this one and Put Ayers in Bo’s rear mirror,along with Axelrod,Khalidi,Wright,Farrakhan,but gee they don’t rear view mirror’s that big do they?
kevink 11.03.08 at 12:35 pm
169 snowtiger
I don’t know what that is but I think it might just get them off-track. Best to have them focused!
NewOrleansPuma 11.03.08 at 12:35 pm
#172sunnypuma: They have been having that blog. And I have chased as many of these slime rats there as I am going to…
Now we must chase the vote!
DancesWithPumas 11.03.08 at 12:35 pm
Flipping off opponents… brilliant diplomacy.
Let’s see the moron present his finger flipping detente on the world stage… he’ll end up with a scud missle between his eyes…
or at least one can hope.
Grizzly 11.03.08 at 12:36 pm
Damn! That “Redistribution” we posted here was posted up on HotAir by someone http://hotair.com/archives/2008/11/03/well-someones-a-chump/
3rd post down on page 2 of the comments.
kat in your hat 11.03.08 at 12:37 pm
When are people going to get it. People like Ayers and Obama are not democrats. They are far left radicals.
This is why people like Ayers and his crew would have problems with Kennedy. You know why? No reason. JFK and RFK represented America, and Ayers et al loathe America.
How can these bots not wonder what Obama means when he says: I am going to change America, and the world.
Do these idiots really think he LIKES them? Stupid.
catsarepumas 11.03.08 at 12:37 pm
I emailed the links of BO’s tapes about coal to a few Wyoming pepers and then decided to go straight to the heart of the problem. I googled the Wyoming Coal Association and sent them the links as well. They should have the same reaction as Ohio Coal Association.
antifish 11.03.08 at 12:37 pm
#158 Murphy,
OK, stop with the emails. I’m bawling my eyes out!
Thank you to all of you out there who appreciate our efforts. Your kind words are so uplifting and inspirational. You don’t know how much this means after being bashed and trashed by our own party members as traitors, racists and so many things I dare not even repeat.
mick 11.03.08 at 12:38 pm
For anyone who is interested, you can listen to Rush radio and Hannity after … here’s the link.
http://www.talkstreamlive.com/
catsarepumas 11.03.08 at 12:38 pm
#186 papers, not pepers.
snowtiger007 11.03.08 at 12:39 pm
Eye of the PUMA (tigers are PUMAS you know)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHEi0q7YkgI
kat in your hat 11.03.08 at 12:39 pm
Terrydo:
Video might be up on youtube.
I watched it on tv during his speech. Noticed it right away. He looked like he was wiping his mouth, but it was with his middle finger after he congratulated McCain. I normally would think it was just a coincidence but he does this kind of thing.
snowtiger007 11.03.08 at 12:40 pm
kevink 11.03.08 at 12:35 pm
169 snowtiger
I don’t know what that is but I think it might just get them off-track. Best to have them focused!
Roflmao. I agree, Tell you a story someday.
not for the blog though.
antifish 11.03.08 at 12:42 pm
Pookie 11.03.08 at 12:34 pm
We saw a video ad last night John McCain is driving and President Bush is in his rear view mirror.I wish the McCain had thought of this one and Put Ayers in Bo’s rear mirror,along with Axelrod,Khalidi,Wright,Farrakhan,but gee they don’t rear view mirror’s that big do they?
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Pookie, they would more likely be in BO’s back seat than in his rearview mirror. He would be driving them to his house-warming party at the White House. Of course, that’s not going to happen because he’s going to lose!!
lipstickmama 11.03.08 at 12:42 pm
WOW! Here is something else to scare your socks off. Here is an Obama quote he made last week here in Virginia:
I feel like we got a righteous wind at our backs here, but we’re going to have to work. We’re going to have to struggle. We’re going to have to fight.
Compare that quote with Chairman Mao:
The ill wind of opportunism is falling, the righteous wind of socialism is on the rise.
By the end of this year the victory of socialism will be greatly assured. Naturally there will be many struggles ahead and we must struggle hard
Anna7000 11.03.08 at 12:42 pm
I don’t know who will win tomorrow. My world view accords none of us such gifts of knowing the next moment from now.
I do know who I want to win, but am bracing myself for the worst.
And if I am so blessed as to be here tomorrow, I will surely carry on this valiant fight to expose BO, take back our party, fight sexism in the media and our society at large, work to elect worthy down ticket candidates, and help to grow our movement bigger and stronger.
Anna7000 11.03.08 at 12:43 pm
ladyhawkke – thanks for posting the link to Lynn’s excellent piece in Huff Post.
mick 11.03.08 at 12:44 pm
Hey all, Rush is rocking and rolling with the Coal comments!!
I knew he would be fired up about it today! WOOT!
alohapuma 11.03.08 at 12:44 pm
Florida Congressman Nadler Yesterday
Obama lack political courage
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rB1G0D3r7k
kat in your hat 11.03.08 at 12:44 pm
Have you guys lokoed at this?
The Road to Serfdom in Cartoons.
http://mises.org/books/TRTS/
No thanks.
snowtiger007 11.03.08 at 12:44 pm
indy
You are so right. After McCain gets in our work will intensify.
However thats for after we win tomorrow. Now is the time to focus on victory. We will deal with the rest beginning Wendsday.
PUMAS FOREVER!!!!
WE ARE THE SONS OF LIBERTY REBORN!!!!
I bet we are too.
Anna7000 11.03.08 at 12:45 pm
lipstickmama – Suggestion: Provide credits for your sources and forward that on to Greta or someone else at Fox who might be interested. That’s pretty powerful.
Pookie 11.03.08 at 12:45 pm
antifish: You got that right! That ad was on TV last night did anyone else see it.
antifish 11.03.08 at 12:45 pm
Obama gives McCain the finger:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnEhmbKazdw
Obama gives Hillary the finger:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69JVgf0ioq8
Is this presidential behavior?
TerryDo 11.03.08 at 12:45 pm
# 168 marie 11.03.08 at 12:31 pm
WOWWWWWWWW TAKE A LOOK AT THIS
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/6004
Venceremo Brigades was a Cuban spy operation
Trashing Camelot: Obama’s pal Bill Ayers Violated JFK’s Cuba Embargos
SNIP-
That’s where Ayers and Dohrn and their kill-the-imperialist-pig ilk came in handy as Castro’s pawns. As previously reported, Ayers and Dohrn traveled as part of the Venceremo Brigades, ostensibly defying Kennedy’s February 1963’s travel restrictions to Cuba.
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How is it that those two pigs Ayers and Dohrn are still prospering and thriving in a country they are trying to destroy…
What is wrong with Americans, how can they reward criminals, anti-Americans and pro-Marxist activists like Ayers and Dohrn?
Where is the CIA where is the FBI where are the protectors of America?
Unbelievable the festering boils that are erupting during this election.
Anna7000 11.03.08 at 12:46 pm
EVERYONE: KEEP MAKING CALLS AND GET INFO OUT THERE TO THE MEDIA AND ON THE INTERNET. IT’S DOWN TO HOURS AND MILLIONS HAVE ALREADY VOTED AND MORE ARE VOTING AS WE BLOG!
freddiebrown 11.03.08 at 12:46 pm
I will question the Democrats leftist ideas from now on – I cannot cling to any party as the party is not beholden to me. As it has been very clear in this election, the Democratic party has been extremely toxic. Perhaps just like how Obama plans to take this country (by planting toxic seeds), the Democratic party has sown its seeds long ago, we just did not realise it until now. Many of us question, how can this be our party ? Well, I think we were caught snoozing.
I hope that in future Pumas here will continue to fight and question justice – not in the name of our Party but in the name of our Country and the good of all our fellow citizens.
I am very proud of every Puma here and every person who has educated themselves on what is going on and made the choice not to back a candidate solely on the basis of party, race or
whatever flippant ideas that are out there.
mountainsong 11.03.08 at 12:47 pm
Ario Yeya. We are going to win, we are winning……
Alice Rodham Puma 11.03.08 at 12:47 pm
Grizzly
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Posted: Mon Nov 3rd, 2008 10:29 am Quote Reply
The PUMA (stands for Party Unity My Ass) factor is yet another crack-pot theory hatched by Karl Rove to claim credit for the 2004 reelection of George W. Bush.
Never mind that the PUMA theory blew over like a house of cards in the 2006 mid-terms to the shock and dismay of the Republicans who were conned into believing Rove’s arrogant and self serving theory of PUMA.
Not only have the Democrats maintained party unity but they’ve added millions of independent and unregistered voters to their ranks over the past two years. As a result the Republicans are running out of real estate to lay claim to on the Red State/Blue State war room map. PUMA has been relegated to the scrap heap of failed conservative crackpot theories like Intelligent Design, Preemptive Warfare, and Trickle Down Economics
The 100 Year Republican Reich checked out of the building in less than a decade and now the GOP will spend the next 92 years wandering in the wilderness of political extremism.
~Found this on another web forum – you guys want to set him straight? http://perspectives.com/forums/view_topic.php?id=191281&forum_id=91
Anna7000 11.03.08 at 12:48 pm
LETTER TO E-MAIL TO FAMILY, FRIENDS, ETC. FINAL PUSH!!!
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I am writing to you because of the profound concern and urgency I feel regarding our upcoming Presidential election. I write knowing I am taking the risk of alienating those who I have had relationships with for a short time in some cases, for many many years in others. But, I am taking that risk because I feel the stakes are so high and the dangers are so great.
As many of you know, I was supporting Hillary Clinton during the primaries. Being actively involved in the political process, I came to learn first hand about many things that might not be readily known if one were not so integrally involved. In sum, the end result of the Democratic primary process was a sham and a horrid degradation of democratic processes. For anyone, irrespective of who they did or do support, who might have wondered how Clinton won more primaries than any other candidate in history yet lost 13 out of 14 of the caucuses, I would urge you to visit http://www.lynettelong.com/CAUCUSFRAUD/ to learn about the travesty that occurred during the caucuses.
However, this is far and beyond the means by which Senator Obama came to be the Democratic Party’s nominee. There are numerous issues surrounding him and his background that the media have simply failed to vet and which should give anyone pause.
Barack Obama has aligned himself with a cast of characters that includes hate mongers, anti-Semites, convicted felons and former terrorists. This is not rumor. These are the facts. He repeatedly minimizes these relationships or simply lies about them, changing his story as is politically convenient. His relationship with Reverend Wright and his church is one of many examples. First he attended church religiously every Sunday, then he only went sometimes because it was hard to sit in the pews with squirming children. Then he did not hear what Wright preached. Then, he heard it but did not agree with it.
This is a church that honored Louis Farrakhan with a Lifetime Achievement award. Surely there are thousands and thousands of black men and women who would be worthy of such an award. To honor Farrakhan, a man who thought Hitler was a great man, speaks volumes.
Obama says he is a friend to Israel, yet embraced the anti-Semitic rants of Reverend Wright for 20 years. If Clinton or McCain attempted such a ruse, they would have been blasted and out of the race before they could get to first base.
He favors transparency in government, yet we have yet to see his birth certificate, records from Occidental College, Columbia College, Harvard University, Selective Service registration, Medical Records, Illinois State Senate schedule, Harvard Law Review or University of Chicago articles.
He wants to spread the wealth around, yet records show that he donated less than 1% of his income to charity between 2002 and 2006. During the past two years his donations increased slightly, just in the knick of time as he started his Presidential bid. Whether you like or dislike Sarah Palin, you may be interested to learn that she and her husband donated more money to charity than both Obama and Biden combined over the past many years.
Meanwhile, his definition of “middle class” has continued to drift such that his promise of who will be protected from increased taxes becomes an ever shrinking group. This link highlights the dramatic and steady shifts he’s made in recent days: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-SavgJlBLA. For those not interested in viewing the video, or if it has been scrubbed by the time you click on it, in sum, Obama has gone from promising a tax cut to those earning under $250,000/year to under $200,000/year to $150,000/year and if you listen to Bill Richardson (who the Obama campaign has now conveniently distanced themselves from after he made this announcement), $125,000/year. One can only wonder how much further it will drift down should he be elected.
Obama talks about equality and wanting to make our public schools better. Who wouldn’t want to do that? He is against school vouchers. Curiously, he sends his children to private school.
Obama talks of equal pay for equal work, yet pays his female staffers 78 cents on the dollar compared to his male staffers. Less than half of his top advisors are women. Conversely, John McCain pays his female staffers $1.04 on the dollar as compared to his male staffers and more than half of his top advisors are women.
Obama was in favor of public campaign financing, then he went back on his word and opted out. He was strongly against FISA, then voted for it. He was the only, I repeat only, Senator to vote against a bill that would ensure that babies born alive due to botched abortions not be left to die.
He suggests that his values include helping those in need, yet he ignored the plight of families living in uninhabitable housing in his state senate district. Adding insult to injury, he developed a financially beneficial relationship with Tony Rezko (now a convicted felon), the slumlord of those buildings.
He used to speak of uniting Americans, now he urges his supporters to argue and get in people’s faces while calling those who do not support him, racists.
When asked tough questions by the media (a rare occurrence), he blasts them for doing so. Apparently, it is not acceptable to press him on matters of concern. Most recently, he booted off three reporters from the same three newspapers that endorsed McCain, from his campaign plane. Naturally, he gave an excuse for why.
He enlisted the power of the state in Missouri, including prosecutors and Sheriffs, to go after those who might dare to speak out against him with what he deemed to be lies. The power of the state was also recently brought to bear against the man now commonly known as “Joe the Plumber.” Curiously, the head of the Ohio Job and Family Services Dept who authorized the investigation which was based on nothing other than the fact that Joe was thrust into the public eye, is an Obama supporter who donated the maximum to his campaign this year. The ACLU has been strangely silent on these issues. It appears they need to adjust their mission statement. The media has seemed to care not a wit and neither, it would seem, do millions of Americans. However, we should all take heed, for when the state goes after someone like Joe without cause, we all know who is next.
As an Illinois state senator, he voted present an unprecedented 190 times, unable or unwilling to take a stand on important legislation. As a US Senator, he has worked a total of 143 days, campaigning for the remainder of his term. He has no record of legislative achievement.
However, there is one point where I agree with Mr. Obama: When asked whether he would run for President after he won his US Senate seat, Barack Obama said he would not, citing the thing we all know to be true: Lack of experience. Michelle Obama was also asked if her husband should run for President. She said, “No. He hasn’t done anything yet!” Mr. Obama should have taken his own advice and that of his wife’s, but here again, he went back on his word to the American people.
This election year it’s down to the basics. Can we truly afford to have a neophyte with a history of dubious relationships and a dangerous view of national security to be elected to the highest office in the land? Should our next Commander-in-Chief be someone who couldn’t pass national security clearance? Is it wise to elect someone to be President of the United States who has not remained in any position long enough to serve anyone or any thing other than his own ambitions?
Obama does not lead by example. There is no track record of achievement. He has a trail of relationships that should cause anyone to wonder what his agenda truly is.
All we have are his words. And he doesn’t keep his word.
This is about the cult of personality and history has taught us the dangers in going down that road.
I’ve never voted for a Republican in my life, but this year I am voting for John McCain. I hope you will join me on Election Day.
Grizzly 11.03.08 at 12:49 pm
Our “Coal” comment up on Michelle Malkin site (comment 9).
http://michellemalkin.com/2008/11/03/the-truth-serum-in-san-francisco/
Anna7000 11.03.08 at 12:50 pm
REPOST OF TALKING POINTS FOR THOSE MAKING CALLS FOR MC CAIN TO SWING STATES – FINAL PUSH EVERYONE!!!
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TALKING POINTS FOR MC CAIN CALLS
After your introductory couple of sentences, if it seems like the interaction will be a bit more involved, try to listen to what the person is saying. People like to feel that they are being heard. Also, the more you listen, the more you can see where they’re at and address their issues, concerns and even address their personality style in a way you feel would make them most able to hear you. In addition, remember that there is a wide range of why folks do or don’t support McCain. For those in the Republican base, he’s not conservative enough. That’s where it helps understanding where they’re coming from. You can best tailor and focus your remarks to match their concerns. It’s not one size fits al.
NATIONAL SECURITY
National security is central to everything. Without being safe, everything else is moot. JM is the only candidate we can trust who has the experience to make sound, informed decisions when it comes to our national security.
National security is the best health care plan!
McCain has served in the Senate and understands international politics in depth. Obama, on the other hand, made a fly-by-night tour of Europe this summer in order to try to boost his international credentials. You can’t cram for this!
Obama has stated he would sit down with the leaders of enemy nations without precondition. In these dangerous times, we cannot afford to have an inexperienced person with naïve views of the ways of the world in the Oval Office.
ECONOMY
Wants to keep taxes low so Americans can keep more of the money we work so hard for.
He has a plan to buy up bad debts to help homeowners maintain the value of their homes all across America as increased foreclosures leads to the devaluation of all homes in the community.
Will assess every single government program to make sure it is functioning and doing its job well. This will reduce government spending tax dollars on programs that don’t work.
Was a leader in the Senate back in 2005 who forewarned of an impending financial crisis and pressed for the need for increased regulation of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. President Bush did so as well back in 2003. But the Democrats insisted the financial institutions were fine and there was not need to address these concerns. How wrong the Dems proved to be and how right on target McCain was.
BTW, re: Obama’s tax plan: when you tax small and mod sized businesses as he plans to, the pressure on them to be able to make a profit and keep their employees becomes so great that 1) they often have to lay people off which is NOT good for the economy, and 2) they increase the cost of their goods in order to meet the tax burden and that increased cost gets passed along to the consumer.
BTW, Obama is trying to the move the country’s social and economic policy to be more like that of Europe, which we now see, has failed miserably.
WAR
JM was a lone voice in the Senate who initially understood that the strategy in Iraq was misguided and pressed for a surge years ago, the very surge that eventually was implemented and has proved so very successful.
Does not like war, but understands that America faces grave international threats.
Wants to make sure we don’t pull out without a plan to ensure that the region remains stable.
There are many countries around the world where the US has a military presence. If this is the case in Iraq for a period of time, it will not be unique.
BTW, BO’s plan does not include a complete withdrawal, but instead, leaves about 50% of our troops in place: a half a war.
BTW, Bill Clinton deployed our troops an enormous number of times during his administration. No one likes or wants war. But the world is complex and dangerous and threats must be addressed accordingly.
HEALTHCARE
Will give Americans an annual $5,000 tax credit to use toward purchasing the health plan of their choice.
Will not force Americans to purchase a plan they don’t want and will not penalize people who want to have choices.
Plan will be good for American families and small business owners. It will not put undo pressure on small business owners, pressure that could force them to lay people off or go out of business.
SOCIAL SECURITY
Will make sure SS remains sound and solid, ensuring that our elderly population and those who are aging will be secure.
EDUCATION
Is in favor of school vouches. Believes parents should have the option of sending their child to a good school and not be forced to keep their child in a school that underperforms.
BTW, BO is against vouchers, yet sends his own children to private school. Hypocritical.
EXPERIENCE
Has dedicated his life to serving his country, first as a soldier then as a Senator.
Obama’s never held a single job for 4 consecutive years and has only 143 days of experience…..
GETTING THINGS ACCOMPLISEHD IN DC
McCain has a track record of bipartisan work to move legislations forward. Obama has no such record.
AGE CONCERNS
Is perfectly health. Has released his health records. Has a healthily mother who is in her 90’s. The family’s got great genes!
Anything can happen to anyone at any time. Obama has not released his health records. JFK had Addison’s disease.
SARAH PALIN
Has more experience than Obama.
Is the only person among all four major party candidates (Pres and VP) with Executive experience.
Has been maligned by the media much as Clinton was; has been the target of bias simply because she is a woman.
PLATFORM / PARTY SYMPATHIES
For those who are not really sympathetic to Republican platform: There are times when things get down to the basics. In this election, we haven’t the luxury of wanting to have it all. The opponent is too risky and we must all choose the candidate with the experience to lead and who we can trust.
Given the budget deficient and the recent economic collapse, even for those who agree with much of what Obama is promising, there’s no way he will be able to deliver because there is no money there for it.
OBAMA NEGATIVES
Lack of experience.
Associations with hate mongers, convicted felons, and former terrorists.
History of aligning himself with those who express anti-American sentiments, as he has also done, for ex, while overseas. What presidential candidate goes overseas and then speaks ill of their own country.
Willingness to sit down with leaders of enemy nations without preconditions.
Lies and flip flops (public campaign funds, FISA + minimizes relationships with those who are highly questionable characters.
Has not released records….
Talks of transparency yet hides his records.
Talks of equal pay for equal work, yet pays his female staffers 78 cents on the dollar as compared to his male staffers.
Is all talk. No achievement. Bad associations.
MISC
Bill Clinton’s candidate X and candidate Y analogy.
Encourage them to visit http://www.johnmccain.com
Silence Dogood 11.03.08 at 12:50 pm
Fighting on for the last 24 hours.
Murphy,
I have a little change/addition to your list.
5. Support good moderate politicians regardless of party
6. Boycott Obama’s Financial, Media, Hollywood supporters.
thecandypoem 11.03.08 at 12:51 pm
Zero or Hero?
I will NOT vote for Obama the Zero. So, I am debating today whether to vote for a third party candidate, or to vote for the Hero. (Also a heroic act of his was to put a woman — finally — on the ticket.) I am doing the math. A nothing on top vote for Zero = 0 effect. (And someone could tamper with the ballot later.) A vote for third party = 1 against Zero. A vote for Hero = 2 votes against Zero.
Something to chew on.
mick 11.03.08 at 12:52 pm
Anna7000 #210
Love your email, hope you don’t mind but I used some of it in my email to some friends that are Democrats. Probably, EX-friends now.
just.words... 11.03.08 at 12:52 pm
greenfun 11.03.08 at 12:33 pm
Two paws up, greenfun! What a great way to spend the weekend!
I have seen the Palin’s on TV and it is obvious that they are good, solid, hard working, Country-first folks. What a bonus to have met them as you continue your POUNCE NEVADA tour!
BillieJo 11.03.08 at 12:52 pm
Good morning PUMAs.
I have my seat belt on for Mr. Toads Wild Ride again today. PUMAs fighting the forces of evil. Off to Mordor to toss the evil ring into the Prairie Fire!!!!!
We stand together, we fight together, we win together!!!!!!!!!!!!
1gypsy4mc 11.03.08 at 12:52 pm
ladyhawke I got these 3 back – sorry!!
tfladung@pioneerpess.com, mburback@pioneerpress.com
wendy.dial@heraldtribune.com
kat in your hat 11.03.08 at 12:52 pm
Keep checking in at RBO for many posts today and tonight. Current one is from Evelyn Pringle
http://therealbarackobama.wordpress.com/
TXRepGirl 11.03.08 at 12:53 pm
If you think that whole Ayers/Obama thing was decades ago, check out:
http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/11/03/ayers-and-obama-in-regular-contact-says-source-close-to-obama-candidacy/
kevink 11.03.08 at 12:54 pm
REPOST
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Here’s the LA Times Prowl Murphy!
PUMAs– help support goofsdad and all the other protesters gathering around the LA Times building!
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Here’s the PROWL, for all of us members not in L.A. to help out our brave and patriotic Pumas on the street today!
Please, everyone — take part in this PROWL. Share it with every Puma you know.
Call these numbers for the next 3 hours and demand the LA Times releases the Khalidi Tape.
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Don’t forget to fax the LA Times too!!!
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Send this email:
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Libby 11.03.08 at 12:54 pm
All Rev Moss video has been taken off Youtube. Guess that is why Obama had to meet with Google execs. Obaba had to let google know where he needed them to clean up after him by rewriting history.
JUST LIKE THE USSR!
snowtiger007 11.03.08 at 12:54 pm
Allright PUMAS. I am off to do some face to face work.
KEEP ROARING!!!
Will BBL.
1gypsy4mc 11.03.08 at 12:56 pm
Grizzly I just love you!!! PUMA HUGS!!
kevink 11.03.08 at 12:57 pm
Snowtiger-
If the Team Sarah folks are interested, there are a TON more LA Times phone numbers in the Action Center- under Boycotts- LA Times
Many are individual lines in to reporters
GOSUEF4HIL 11.03.08 at 12:57 pm
Ladyhawke- thanks for Huffy Po site, I commented and forwarded to all in my e-mail.
I did the LA Times, just e-mail today.
I have contacted all Wyoming papers and several Pa papers- my grandfather was a Pa coal miner-wrote to expose Obama. Hannity, Limbaugh, Greta and O’Rielly too- as well as my e-mail chain.
I have the last of my flyers w/ me, going to dispense today, will be phone banking at McHQ in Phoenix and will be back tonight to update.
We are going to do this.
Blast the coal- that is from his mouth- forget the LA Times, the BC, etc.- he said what he said and we are very coal dependent- this effects ALL OF US!!!
indy 11.03.08 at 12:58 pm
I was going thru my bookmarks and am posting this because I feel it is important to know how extensive Obama’s vision is if he were elected:
Sen. Obama’s 0-6 child care proposal is probably the one single idea that he has envisioned that is the greatest direct threat to the very foundation of this nation. Our social experiment of a democratic republic is under direct assault and the future outcome of this nation is in doubt should Sen. Obama become our next President. When we hear from the liberal left that our children are our most important resource, there is another side of that rhetoric that bears deeper examination and should instill fear in every single parent and grandparent in this nation.
In the early 1920’s, Hitler realized that in order to further the Nazi party movement, he would need an entire generation of Germans who could espouse the Nazi doctrine in not just what they said, but what they believed. This foundational youth movement was one of the very first things the Nazi party did very early on in the beginning of the party. They also did the same for the young ladies of Germany with the formation of the League of German Girls. Both organizations were successful in numbers and can be directly attributable for Hitler rising to absolute power in the 1930’s.
When you add to the equation the German Lebensborn program for unwed and SS mothers, you begin to get a sense of what the objective of the 1000 year Reich was all about. There can be no question that to take children from an early and impressionable age, teach them the knowledge that the party desired, and even begin a program that fostered SS children to become racially pure and become the future leaders of Germany, then you have a nation in which all manner of opposition can and was annihilated.
In November in a speech he gave, Obama had this to say:
The first part of my plan focuses on providing quality affordable early childhood education to every child in America. As president, I will launch a Children’s First Agenda that provides care, learning and support to families with children ages zero to five.”
“We’ll create Early Learning Grants to help states create a system of high-quality early care and education for all young children and their families,” he said. “And we’ll help more working parents find a safe, affordable place to leave their children during the day by improving the educational quality of our childcare programs and increasing the childcare tax credit.
Then this past week, he once again brings to the table an even greater effort for this plan:
double funding for after-school programs that help children learn and give parents relief.
This was on a thread I read this summer. Question: What is Obama doing with children 0 year old?
Sounds like another Ayer education scheme.
Also, remember Obama wants reparations in the form of an “Education Re-Payment” for past AA slavery and discrimination of people of color. What happens to those children who aren’t “of color?”
BillieJo 11.03.08 at 12:59 pm
snowtiger007 11.03.08 at 12:39 pm
Eye of the PUMA (tigers are PUMAS you know)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHEi0q7YkgI
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This is the song I will listen to today, it is upbeat, it is strong, it gives us courage to fight. Listen to the works…it is appropriate.
Good post from our own Snowtiger.
natkar76 11.03.08 at 1:02 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBMdWxcFXQg
Here’s the one from today where BO flips off MCCAIN!!! The nerve of that guy!!!
kat in your hat 11.03.08 at 1:02 pm
Aw, look at this cartoon someone made.
http://pumaparty.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=5153
Ok, I am having lunch, then making a serious amount of phone calls, and then I will come back to attack the entire internet.
turndownobama 11.03.08 at 1:03 pm
thecandypoem 11.03.08 at 12:51 pm
I will NOT vote for Obama the Zero. So, I am debating today whether to vote for a third party candidate, or to vote for the Hero. (Also a heroic act of his was to put a woman — finally — on the ticket.) I am doing the math. A nothing on top vote for Zero = 0 effect. (And someone could tamper with the ballot later.)
THEY COULD TAMPER WITH A WRITE-IN TOO.
A vote for third party = 1 against Zero. A vote for Hero = 2 votes against Zero.
RIGHT. AS SOMEONE SAID, ANYTHING BUT A VOTE FOR MCCAIN IS PLAYING WITH FIRE. IF THE RACE IS NOT CLOSE IN YOUR STATE A 3RD PARTY SENDS A MESSAGE — BUT ARE YOU SURE IT’S NOT CLOSER THAN THE POLLS SHOW? BETTER BE SAFE WITH MCCAIN.
lurker 11.03.08 at 1:03 pm
PUMA’s see my post 209 above! PUMA’s need to respond.
http://perspectives.com/forums/view_topic.php?id=191281&forum_id=91&jump_to=3954132
NewOrleansPuma 11.03.08 at 1:05 pm
#170Grizzly: I can not believe I am actually listening to Rush Limbaugh! I just called my Republican nephew and told him so he and I had a great laugh together! He by the way is one disgusted Republican…since the last 8 years…well..what all may work over all this years could not accomplish…reality beyond that did!! One more of those from both and no party who have the opportunity to reject Obama and for his sake to reform his party…or..maybe I can keep talking and who knows where he may wind up…maybe a roaring Puma! Lol Grizzly
NewOrleansPuma 11.03.08 at 1:06 pm
Grizzly: Correction: what all MY work over all these years regarding his Republican self could not accomplish….
Delle 11.03.08 at 1:07 pm
We are no longer democrats and republicans.
We are Americans!
Let’s defeat the anti-Americans of all stripes and persuations.
Go PUMAS Go!
Delle
DancesWithPumas 11.03.08 at 1:07 pm
“5. Support good moderate politicians regardless of party”
“Moderate”, being a relative term, is hard to define.
Since the Democratic Party has made only slight changes to their platform over the past 20 / 30 years, they’ve, basically, maintained a fixed position. The Republicans, on the other hand, have moved far to the right, ala bush, gingrich, dumbya, so, if people are defining themselves as somewhere in the middle (moderate), between far right and fixed point Democratic positions, they’re just left of Attila the Hun.
Sunshinelvr 11.03.08 at 1:08 pm
I was made aware of this fact this morning. I do not know why I had not thought of it before!
Some people think that because they are registered as Democrats–that they must vote the democratic ticket!
I told them “NO, NO, NO< and NO!!! We are voting AMERICAN! We are not voting deemocrat 0r republican! This year, we MUST vote for America!
If you know anyone who thiks that they cannot vote for McCain because they are a registered Democrat, PLEASE tell them that it ain’t so!! We must vote for America this year and that is what matters the most!
indy 11.03.08 at 1:10 pm
This is from Constitution Day, Inc.:
“Our Mission is to perpetuate the Constitution to each succeeding generation. To promote the annual national simultaneous recitation of the Preamble across all of America, especially in the schools. To educate each new generation to the uniqueness and brilliance of our Constitution, the most perfect governmental document conceived by man. To show the need to protect and defend it to maintain our liberties.”
That is so powerful. That is what this election means. It is the most perfect governmental document conceived by man. And that jerk (couldn’t think of a better word that I could post) wants to mess with it!
Anna7000 11.03.08 at 1:10 pm
RE: Obama “flipping” McCain. I watched the video and find it a stretch. BUT, what I do find utterly outrageous is the fact that Obama is giving an acceptance speech the day before Election Day, congratulating McCain in his usual patronizing way, as if McCain has lost. I also found it interesting that for the first time in a long time, most if not all of those seated behind Obama were black. Up till now his campaign seems to have made a point of ensuring that his backdrop of people was mostly populated with white folks. I found that interesting as well.
Gonna post one more thing, if I can find it in what has become a long and now somewhat disorganized collection of files…
no1what 11.03.08 at 1:11 pm
# 126 I finished sending out my emails and fax’s
Do you have emails and info for the prominant Hollywood Jewish community? I’d like to ask Spielberg why he’s not demanding the tape to be released.
Sunshinelvr 11.03.08 at 1:11 pm
We DO have to remember that the economy was going along UNTIL we got a totally democratic congress. THEY have accomplished nothing! So the economy is not ALL gw’s fault. It is so important for America to vote for someone who we KNOW will be on OUR side “should the winds of change blow.”
Pookie 11.03.08 at 1:12 pm
Email from Hillary
This Moment:
Dear XXXXXXX
Tomorrow we have the opportunity to make history.
Tomorrow we can elect Barack Obama, Joe Biden and Democrats up and down the ticket. Together, we can begin putting this country on the right track.
Tomorrow we can set a new course.
I am so proud of what we have accomplished together and in these final 24 hours I am asking you to come together once again for Barack Obama and Joe Biden. Let’s spend every hour and every minute doing all we can. Vote, volunteer and work your heart out so that we can turn our country around.
Bill and I recorded a special message to share with you and I hope you will watch it and then I hope you will take action by joining us in this final push.
My Reply
I don’t think so Hillary, You have asked me to do something this time I can’t do, I think too much of my Country to betray it tomorrow.
Sincerely
XXXXXXXXXXXXX
XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
ontherocks 11.03.08 at 1:15 pm
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/11/03/fox-news-poll-obama-leads-going-election-day/
On FOX.
I hate polls
HP Boston 11.03.08 at 1:20 pm
Tomorrow is the march of the Pumas
A steady flow of orange
Tomorrow is the march of the Pumas
A steady flow of Americans
Tomorrow is the march of the Pumas
A steady flow of informed voters
Tomorrow is the march of the Pumas
A steady flow of great love for country
Tomorrow is the march of the Pumas
A steady flow of Dems,Indies and Repubs
Tomorrow is Puma pride and voting day!
I love my Puma friends more than I can say.
ladyhawkke 11.03.08 at 1:21 pm
WE NEED TO START CALLING. THESE LINKS ARE MICRO-TARGETED. FROM FLORIDA WOMEN FOR McCAIN AND LADY LYNN. ANYONE FROM ANY STATE CAN DO IT.
Please try to make time for this today.
oxoxo Lynn
—– Original Message —–
From: Sharon Day, Florida Women for McCain
To: Lady de Rothschild
Sent: Sun Nov 02 20:05:22 2008
Subject:
Dear Lynn,
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What Women Leaders Need To Know!
John McCain and Sarah Palin Need You Now…More than Ever!
McCain and Palin the Winning Ticket
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Now, the campaign needs your help more than ever, to keep working the phones! If you are not otherwise committed to a campaign activity, please get to your nearest Victory office or call from home!
Theses calls are micro-targeted to the most persuadable voters! Polls show that 1 in every 7 voters is persuadable! We need to keep the phones lines working until 7 pm Tuesday evening.
We need for you to sign up and and Volunteer for McCain’s final 72 Hour Victory Plan by clicking here.
You can also call from home when you are unable to get to your closest Victory Office or if you have some free time at Home by clicking here. http://rs6.net/tn.jsp?e=001GEbrY_rmaTqUa3Tf-1pyAvs2bAaFkWNTDafVar1f1z0GBJ7IBcR3VTqkulD_UWhi03tEp60N0W2sEjCGOvq7R4itXIbqsiaMM7MOyrVA870YGmUTLoNrZBd07iqdPFoyTSJJplV5BwA=
The first time, you may be asked to sign in.
On this page, click on the address for daytime or evening phone bank, and on the next page read the instructions for calling, then at the bottom of the page select Florida as the state and click Start.
Voter’s name address and phone number from Florida will appear.
After the call, be sure to complete the small box above the voter’s name.
When you click on the V (arrow), several options will appear regarding the result of the call.
RE: The Final Push
The State of the Campaign
If your television is tuned to cable news as frequently as ours are here at campaign headquarters, you have seen the pundits say John McCain and his campaign are done. And, if you’ve followed this race since the beginning, this is clearly a song you’ve heard before. I wanted to take some time today to give you some insight on the state of the race as we see it.
An AP poll released this morning revealed a very telling fact: ONE out of every SEVEN voters is undecided. That means, if 130 million voters turn out on Tuesday, 18.5 million of them have yet to make up their mind. With that many votes on the table and the tremendous movement we’ve seen in this race, I believe we are in a very competitive campaign.
Here’s Why
All the major polls have shown a tightening in the race and a significant narrowing of the numbers. In John McCain’s typical pattern, he is closing strong and surprising the pundits. We believe this race is winnable, and if the trajectory continues, we will surpass the 270 Electoral votes needed on Election Night.
National Polls: Major polls last week showed John McCain trailing by double-digit margins – but by the middle of this week, we were within the margin of error on four national tracking surveys. In fact, the Gallup national tracking survey showed the race in a virtual tie 2 days this week .
State Polls
Iowa – Our numbers in Iowa have seen a tremendous surge in the past 10 days. We took Obama’s lead from the double digits to a very close race. That is why you see Barack Obama visiting the state in the final days, trying to stem his losses. It is too little, too late. Like many other Midwestern states, Iowa is moving swiftly into McCain’s column.
The Southwest – It is no secret that Republican candidates in the Southwest have to focus on winning over enough Latino and Hispanic voters in Nevada, New Mexico and Colorado to carry them to victory. John McCain has overcome challenges Republicans face, and has made up tremendous ground in these states with these voters. For these voters, the choice has become clear, and you have seen a big change in the numbers. John McCain is now winning enough voters to perform within the margin of error – putting these states within reach.
Colorado – Barack Obama tried to outspend our campaign in Colorado during the early weeks of October and finish off our candidate in Colorado. However, after our visit early this week, we saw a tremendous rebound in our poll position, and Colorado is back on the map.
Ohio and Pennsylvania – Everyone knows that vote rich Ohio and Pennsylvania will be key battlegrounds for this election. Between the two: 41 electoral votes and no candidate has gotten to the White House without Ohio. Senator McCain and Governor Palin have been campaigning non-stop in these key battleground states and tonight Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger has pumped up our campaign at a rally in Columbus. Our position in these states is strong and undecided voters continue to have a very favorable impression of our candidate.
Obama campaign faces tremendous structural challenges in the final days of this campaign
Obama has a challenge hitting 50%: Barack Obama has not reached the 50% threshold in almost any the battleground state. He consistently is performing in the 45-48% range. When we look closely at the primary votes, we see a history of a candidate whose Election Day performance is often at or behind his final polling numbers. If this is true, our surge will leave Obama with even or under 50% of the vote on Election Day.
Early Vote: The Obama campaign has promised that their early vote and absentee efforts will change the composition of the electorate. They have sold the press on a story that first time voters will turn out in droves this election cycle. Again, the facts undermine their argument. In our analysis of early voting and absentee votes to date: The composition of the electorate has not changed significantly and most folks who have voted early are high propensity voters who would have voted regardless of the high interest in this campaign.
Expanding the Field: Obama is running out of states if you follow out a traditional model. Today, he expanded his buy into North Dakota, Georgia and Arizona in an attempt to widen the playing field and find his 270 Electoral Votes. This is a very tall order and trying to expand into new states in the final hours shows he doesn’t have the votes to win.
The Final Barnstorm
On Monday, we will have a 14 state rally with our candidates crisscrossing the country trying to turn out our voters and sway the final undecided voters. Governor Palin will hit Ohio, Missouri, Iowa, Colorado, Nevada and Alaska in the final day of campaigning, while Senator McCain will travel from Tampa, Florida, to Virginia, then Pennsylvania, Indiana, New Mexico, Nevada and finish the night in Prescott, Arizona. The enthusiasm and excitement we generate on Monday will be the electricity that powers our “Get Out the Vote” efforts on Tuesday.
On the Ground
Our field organization has tremendous energy and is out-performing the Bush campaign at the same time in 2004. This week our field organization crossed a huge threshold and began reaching more than one million voters per day, and by week’s end will have contacted more than 5 million voters. Our phone centers are full and our rate of voter contact is significantly out-pacing the Bush campaign in 2004. We have the resources to do the voter contact necessary to support the surge we are seeing in our polling with old fashioned grassroots outreach.
On the Airwaves
In the final days of the campaign, our television presence will be bigger and broader than the Obama campaign’s presence. The full Republican effort – the RNC’s Independent Expenditure and the McCain campaign will out-buy Barack Obama and the Democrats by just about 10 million dollars.
In short: the McCain campaign is surging in the final 72 hours. Our grassroots campaign is vibrant and communicating to voters in a very powerful way. Our television presence is strong. And, we have a secret ingredient – A candidate who will never quit and who will never stop fighting for you and for your families.
In these final hours, Senator McCain and Governor Palin are counting on you – they are counting on you to knock on doors, to make turnout calls, to contact your friends and neighbors. Get our voters to the polls and help John McCain fight for your and for our country. This is our last mission on behalf of John McCain and I have no doubt I can count on your effort and energy to carry us across the line to victory.
As always, thank you for your continued support and all the best, Sharon Day.
If you have any questions contact:
floridawomenformccain@gmail.com
1gypsy4mc 11.03.08 at 1:21 pm
ontherocks I don’t do FOX polls because they’re too vulnerable to the bots!! Don’t go to any POLLS TODAY!! They are not real – they do not exist – the only poll is the PUMA one – which I need to do now.
taggles1 11.03.08 at 1:21 pm
I DO NOT WANT TO TRAVEL THAT NEW COURSE HILLARY. Luv ya, but sorry no go!
Anna7000 11.03.08 at 1:21 pm
no1what – forget speilberg. he’s in the tank for bo.
Grizzly 11.03.08 at 1:22 pm
Fourth of July article published in Canada of all places. Obama’s communist ties. It got little play in the US, but given the information that has recently surfaced about Ayers and company, it is very relevant now.
Here’s the article:
http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/3823
Communist Party Backs Obama
By Cliff Kincaid Friday, July 4, 2008
Barack Obama’s patriotic tour has run into a snag. More evidence of communist backing for the candidate has surfaced. The latest to emerge publicly in Obama’s camp is Joelle Fishman, the chairman of the Communist Party USA (CPUSA) Political Action Commission. In a column titled, “Big political shifts are underway,” Fishman says that Obama could lead “a landslide defeat of the Republican ultra-right” this November and that he is “ready to listen” to the “left and progressive voters” backing him. Fishman makes it clear that the CPUSA is part of this coalition.
Meanwhile, admitted CPUSA member Alan Maki, writing on the official Barack Obama website, in the “community blogs” section under an “Obama 08” banner, has mentioned the unmentionable. That is the role of CPUSA member Frank Marshall Davis in mentoring Obama during his formative high school years in Hawaii.
Although fine print at the bottom of the page says that “Content on blogs in My.BarackObama represents the opinions of community members and in no way should be interpreted as endorsed or approved by the campaign,” the information provided by Maki is deadly confirmation that a hard-core CPUSA member played a key role in helping raise Obama. It is a story that most media, including some “conservative” news outlets, have shied away from.
Davis, who died in 1987, was a Stalinist who stayed with the CPUSA when others were abandoning it, and he refused, as late as 1956, to deny his membership in the party. He was selected by Obama’s white grandfather to be the future candidate’s role model and father-figure.
Obama showed his gratitude by going to socialist conferences and selecting Marxist professors as his friends in college. Later, of course, he would arrive in Chicago and launch his political career in the arms of communist terrorists Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn, who, according to declassified intelligence information (PDF), were members of a group with connections to the CPUSA, foreign communist regimes, and even the Soviet KGB. The information shows that their close terrorist associate, Kathy Boudin, attended Moscow University and was subsidized by the Soviet government. Her father was a CPUSA member and a registered Cuban agent, documents show.
Praise for the CPUSA Figure
Announcing the “Frank Marshall Davis roundtable for change” on the Obama website, Maki, a Democratic Party activist and casino worker organizer, explained, “Reading Barack Obama’s book I learned about his mentor, Frank Marshall Davis.” He went on, “Of course, as we all know, Frank Marshall Davis was a Communist and he had a very good understanding of the underlying source of problems which all too often goes unstated and unchallenged and remains hidden because of the high fear-factor level in this country; I am referring to capitalism―a thoroughly rotten system. Frank Marshall Davis also understood through his thorough studies of the situation that socialism provided the only workable alternative to capitalism.”
Saying that he has been “active in the Minnesota DFL and the Democratic Party most of my life,” Maki still wants to know about the specifics of the “change” Obama is promising.
Maki goes on to say, “There really isn’t much for us to learn about ‘change’ from Obama, but there is quite a bit to be gleaned from the writings of Frank Marshall Davis and I thank Barack Obama for bringing him to my attention… now I can say that Frank Marshall Davis is in many ways my mentor, too.”
In a telephone conversation, Maki admitted being a CPUSA member and claimed the FBI had thousands of pages on him. A friendly fellow, he maintains more than a dozen blogs. One of them is simply titled, “Communist manifesto.”
For her part, CPUSA official Fishman seems to have more insight into Obama’s notion of change. “In sharp contrast” to John McCain, Fishman writes, “Obama speaks of strengthening government to provide health care and jobs, address global warming and end the war in Iraq.”
Drudge Plays Role of Censor
While Obama’s far-left support seems to be worthy of news and comment, Matt Drudge of Drudge Report fame has just rejected two paid ads submitted by my group America’s Survival, Inc. about the influence that CPUSA member Davis exerted over a young Obama. The ads featured a photo of Davis and a communist hammer and sickle. They asked, “Who is this man?,” and urged viewers to click to “Meet the mysterious Red Mentor” so they could be directed to two reports on the subject. The ads were “too controversial,” Drudge’s representative told me.
A recent article in Politico suggested Drudge was moving into the Obama camp. Matt Drudge, the article said, has been “trumpeting Obama’s victories and shrugging at his scandals.” The rejection of my ads is proof of that.
While Drudge protects Obama to the extent of rejecting paid advertising which draws attention to his Frank Marshall Davis connection, the “progressives” are openly talking about it. A “progressive” blogger named Rita responded to Alan Maki and says she checked out a copy of Davis’s book, Livin’ the Blues, from the library, and has been “reading it every day and sharing this with my kids…Frank Marshall Davis was a journalist and social activist of tremendous courage. I want to point out that Frank Marshall Davis was not only a voice for civil and human rights; his voice was a solid voice for the rights of all working people.”
She reproduces Maki’s email on Davis, which notes that copies were sent to such left-wing luminaries as Rep. Keith Ellison, Carl Pope of the Sierra Club, and Robert Borosage of the Institute for America’s Future and the Campaign for America’s Future. Borosage, who writes for the Huffington Post, is also the founder and chairman of the Progressive Majority Political Action Committee, which “recruits, staffs, and funds progressive candidates for political office.”
If Davis was indeed a “voice for civil and human rights,” why didn’t Barack Obama proudly identify Frank Marshall Davis by his full name in Dreams From My Father? Instead, Obama refers repeatedly to somebody named “Frank” giving him advice on various matters. Obama does note, however, that “Frank” was a contemporary of black poets Richard Wright and Langston Hughes. This is a hint of his real identity. The reference is significant because Wright and Hughes broke with the CPUSA while Davis did not. Indeed, Davis, in Livin’ the Blues (page 243), refers to Wright’s “act of treason” for exposing the CPUSA. Davis favored cooperation between what he called “Reds and blacks.” This demonstrates how much of a committed communist Davis really was. And this may be why Obama didn’t want readers to know his true identity.
A writer for a communist publication, Gerald Horne, first identified the mysterious “Frank” as Frank Marshall Davis. The identity was confirmed by Dr. Kathryn Takara of the University of Hawaii. Now, Alan Maki confirms it as well, saying that “progressives” should be proud of his legacy.
Praising Foreign Reds, Too
In addition to glorifying Davis as a source of sound ideas, the “progressive” Minnesota blog that favorably cites Maki also features a picture of “Raul Reyes…heroic leader of the Columbian resistance.” This is the dead leader of the communist narco-terrorists known as the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (FARC). Documents found in Reyes’ computer after his death disclosed that “gringos” representing Barack Obama wanted to meet with the FARC and that they were opposed to U.S. military aid for the Colombian government. Obama had been publicly critical of the Colombia government’s human rights record.
By contrast, the Bush Administration has helped the Colombia government in its war with the FARC. Fortunately, and no thanks to Obama, the FARC has suffered a series of setbacks, the most recent being the spectacular liberation of 15 people, including 3 Americans, held by the group. Just a decade ago, there was speculation that the FARC might be getting so strong as to actually be able to defeat the military forces of the government of Colombia.
The FARC is now in ruins, but their “gringo” friends with communist and “progressive” support might be able to take power in the U.S. The communists and their “progressive” allies appreciate the stakes. It’s too bad that Drudge does not.”
mountainsong 11.03.08 at 1:22 pm
indy Not in THIS country!!!
They might mess with our ballots, but not our bullets.
ontherocks 11.03.08 at 1:23 pm
1gypsy4mc 11.03.08 at 1:21 pm

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You are right. Polls can bring ya down.
Well back to making calls.
ohiopubbie 11.03.08 at 1:25 pm
Hey all PUMAS! How goes it?
It’s been good to be with you.
Listening to Rush…and am confident that McCain/Palin will be victorious.
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according to the encyclopedia of the occult(library book), black man=the summoner, makes sense to me….8O
ohiopubbie 11.03.08 at 1:26 pm
oops, that’s supposed to be this,
my bad
victorypuma 11.03.08 at 1:26 pm
Dear PUMAs, I am so proud to be part of this movement. I will pray that McCain will win. I am stuck in Europe now until the end of year – on a contract work assignment. As soon as get back,I will switch to independent. I will never quit the PUMA movement. I hope that I can do a lot more when I am back in the States. In the meantime, I will pray that Obama LOOSES as he well deserves it. Again, the Prairie Fire doctrine is quite scary. On to Victory tomorrow!!!! P.S. Thank you Murphy for the most incredible editorials. They are getting better and beter.
Anna7000 11.03.08 at 1:27 pm
SOME POST ELECTION THOUGHTS ON WHERE/HOW TO GO FROM HERE:
Do not continue business as usual. Take this time to step back, reflect, re-evaluate and reorganize.
Would not consider forming an alternative political party. It’s not a realistic or viable option in reality, though the org could work to support candidates.
Leaders of main PUMA orgs meet to discuss consolidation to form a single org.
Pull in high profile names like Lynette Long, Lynn de Rothschild, etc.
Create organizational structure/board of directors.
Create a budget and determine how to meet funding needs.
Make sure you have key professionals involved (lawyer, accountant, etc)
Consult with MBA-type if helpful to create a sort of business plan.
Determine if org will primarily be top-down or bottom-up.
Determine priorities, goals, timelines and strategies to achieve goals.
Create committees.
Some ideas re: goals and strategies:
Focus on mid-term elections.
Collect contact info for sympathetic journalists and media outlets, broken down into 2 categories: mainstream media and non-mainstream media. These contacts will be crucial in an environment where most of the media cannot be counted on to listen or care.
Committees can do research to support goals, including voter fraud, sexism, down ticket candidates and races, etc.
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But, this is all for tomorrow…..For today, we must keep working as we have been……
ladyhawkke 11.03.08 at 1:30 pm
Khalidi/Obama Tape & The LA Times
http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/2008/10/exclusive_ali_a.html
ohiopubbie 11.03.08 at 1:30 pm
Woman born and raised in China on Rush now.
Interesting comments, revolution under election
no1what 11.03.08 at 1:30 pm
Poll history lesson from Ace: http://ace.mu.nu/
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A Little History by Slublog
Have I mentioned how much I love the PUMAs?
Just a few reminders of what was being said before the 2004 election:
Zogby’s call? Kerry, 311; Bush, 213.
The electoral vote call made by one of those aggregating sites?
Electoral Vote (based on composite polls) – Kerry 298, Bush 231
NBC’s Chuck Todd was so confident of a Kerry win, he called the race in May 2004:
If you look at key indicators beyond the neck-and-neck support for the two candidates in the polls–such as high turnout in the early Democratic primaries and the likelihood of a high turnout in November–it seems improbable that Bush will win big. More likely, it’s going to be Kerry in a rout.
Seems his “first read” was a wrong one.
Polls are not science, pundits are not psychic and nothing is decided until the final ballot is cast tomorrow.
Or, in the event of a narrow McCain win, until the Obama lawyers lose their final appeal to the Supreme Court.
TXRepGirl 11.03.08 at 1:31 pm
Barak flipping McCain off…
http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=211973
BillieJo 11.03.08 at 1:32 pm
Better late than never….Drudge.
Barack Obama makes a one-fingered gesture while speaking of Hillary Clinton
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/04/obamaflipsoffcl.html
antifish 11.03.08 at 1:33 pm
This is scary. Ralph Peters has written a spoof outligning Obama’s first four years:
OBAMA 2012: HIS TRIUMPHS ABROAD
OUR GREATEST FOREIGN POLICY PRESIDENT?
98Read Comments Leave a Comment By RALPH PETERS
New ruler of the Baltics, Vladimir Putin
Last updated: 1:09 pm
November 1, 2008
Posted: 12:17 pm
November 1, 2008
Looking back on the four years of his first administration, President Obama can be proud: He made the US welcome among the family of nations again; he reduced our reliance on military force; and he gave us peace by reaching sensible accommodations with our enemies.
The lies told about him in the 2008 election were exposed as sheer bigotry. Far from being “soft on radical Islam,” President Obama was the first world leader to welcome Jewish refugees after Iran’s nuclear destruction of Israel’s major cities (his only caveat – a fair one – was the refusal to accept Zionist military officers and their families, in light of Israel’s excessive retaliation).
He also demonstrated his resolve in the face of extremism when he overruled the obstructionist advice of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and ordered our military to cross the border into Pakistan in force. The subsequent debacle, as Pakistan cut off supply routes to Afghanistan and threatened a nuclear response, was entirely the fault of our generals on the ground, not of the administration.
Read More:
http://www.nypost.com/seven/11012008/postopinion/opedcolumnists/obama_2012__his_triumphs_abroad_136358.htm?page=0
Asian4Hillary 11.03.08 at 1:34 pm
Jackasses don’t roar, only PUMAS! Good headline from Matt Drudge!
ohiopubbie 11.03.08 at 1:34 pm
I’m praying for a landslide, not another one of these close elections.
1gypsy4mc 11.03.08 at 1:34 pm
Grizzly Do you have gmail? I have some stuff concerning your post #249!!
LizzyinCT 11.03.08 at 1:36 pm
gypsy #34 ~
Just completed your prowl – sent coal video links to all Wyoming newspaper email addys.
Thanks for posting!
alohapuma 11.03.08 at 1:37 pm
Hillary’s email:
She’s looks like a shadow of the woman she was six months ago. So sad. Tell the truth Hillary and set yourself free.
1gypsy4mc 11.03.08 at 1:38 pm
LizzyinCT Thank you so much!!
LA Times Did the emails – got stuck on hold with phones; some faxes went through – others didn’t!
fmster 11.03.08 at 1:38 pm
Has objective information been found to indicate whether of not the message about the Coal Industry Bankruptcy Story is spreading in the coal states of PA, Ohio, W. VA, Virginia, etc. Sorry if information has been posted. Thanks.
MJE4HRC 11.03.08 at 1:39 pm
Hi, PUMAs!
Here’s a little encouraging news…
A good friend called me and whispered (she works with some Obots) that a colleague told her that her friend (who works elsewhere) said that many of her co-workers are publicly stating that they’ll vote for Obama even though they will vote for McCain.
Let’s defeat the cheat!
Go McCain/Palin!
Go Democracy!
TerryDo 11.03.08 at 1:40 pm
ontherocks 11.03.08 at 1:23 pm
1gypsy4mc 11.03.08 at 1:21 pm
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You are right. Polls can bring ya down.
Well back to making calls.
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Hey Pumas,….Today’s cares are ENOUGH!
How foolish to ADD tomorrow’s cares to those of today!
Tackle today’s troubles, and let tomorrow take care of itself.
How sad, if you are putting most of your ENERGY and EFFORT into WORRYING, instead of WORKING! Worry accomplishes nothing!
kat in your hat 11.03.08 at 1:41 pm
http://www.drudgereport.com/
Look at Drudge now. Obama’s MIDDLE FINGER.
ontherocks 11.03.08 at 1:42 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zj5eWRzDhNI&NR=1
This video is sooo cute. It is about voting however you like.
mountainsong 11.03.08 at 1:42 pm
Anna7000 I disagree with your statement : :It’s not a realistic or viable option in reality”
All parties starte SOMEWHERE.
And now and forever more people will remember the dividing destruction of what once was the Democratic Party, by Obama.
I think most of your ideas are great. But don’t let fear hold you back.
The Libertarian, the Green, the Independent parties all started somewhere, for their own purpose or mission.
All your other ideas are things necessary to the formation of any party.
kat in your hat 11.03.08 at 1:43 pm
I just convinced my grandmother to vote and bring her friends. She was trying to figure out whether or not she felt like voting. I was like WUHHH?
So, I talked her into voting and bringing some friends. I am going to call her in the morning to remind her! geesh.
LizzyinCT 11.03.08 at 1:44 pm
KevinK #221 ~
Completed your LA Times prowl – emails sent to all addys.
Thank you for making it so easy!
no1what 11.03.08 at 1:45 pm
maybe this post will cheer your Poll blues up:
Posted by: ConcernedCitizen at November 03, 2008 11:46 AM (hmDr/)
psssstt!
McCain/Palin landslide!
Pass it on!
My fellow Americans, all we have to do is get out the vote and this thing is ours.
There is NO WAY this great country will put an unknown with so many negatives like Obama at the helm over a great American like John McCain. It just isn’t going to happen!
The two great related stories after this campaign:
1. How the media completely failed to cover and anticipate the effects of PUMAs/Blue Dogs
2. How the media completely failed to vet the major party candidate while there was time to do something about it, practically guaranteeing the eventual victory of John McCain. It will be THEIR FAULT he won!
Had the media done their job in the primaries, Hillary would be the Dem nominee and she’d have won the whole shebang. And I don’t think most Republicans would have had a huge problem with that. Palin wouldn’t have been the VP pick and the base would have sat back and watched it all unfold.
MSM — It’s YOUR FAULT your guy is about to get CREAMED!
BWAHAHAHAHAHAH! ELEVENTY!!!1!
mzebest 11.03.08 at 1:45 pm
I see many posted the Jerrold Nadler video link in which he discusses Obama’s lack of courage to leave Trinity Church…
…but here’s another video of many Jewish folks questioning Nadler in more detail. I posted this last night — it’s worth watching. I’m impressed with how informed the audience is in their information. Makes me have faith that PUMA information is getting out despite the MSM.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aG33wVmwD2M
Also… Pamela Geller speaking to the Jewish group the same day is a marvelous watch and I agree with everything she is saying:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_Mgz-z9CNM
Susie1945 11.03.08 at 1:45 pm
Hi PUMAS – bacck from store – & forgot coffee again – 3rd trip & meant to buy coffee & I keep forgetting – don’t know why – early alzheimers, stress from this never ending campaign or what……..don’t know & not sure I want to go again.
Thaks for the reminder about orange – was wondering what to wear tomorrow – thought red, white & blue – but we have to be neutral – no political buttons, signs, etc. and voters have to remove or cover also – so orange it is – I have my PUMA tee and I will wear that with an orange sweater – PUMAs rule
I also think I converted a cashier & a customer ahead of me in line at Target – cus just quit smoking – today 1st day – I commiserated with her cuz it will be two years for me on 12/31 – cashier was older lady & she was a quiter too – cus said having hard time especially with all the election stuff so I said – hey step back, take a deep breath cuz I heard McCain is moving ahead – she said are you kidding & I said no – I’m voting for mcpalin and that I was a Hillary supporter and now a PUMA & showed my bracelet – cuz said scared of Palin – I asked why? I think she’s great – got more experience than all of the other 3 together. Made a crack about the ‘feminist’ groups I used to belong to until I found out that they only support liberal women – that women should support women – 30% solution, etc.
Wished her luck & said don’t forget to vote – & I said NObama and they both smiled…………………
We’ll see,…………………………..
kat in your hat 11.03.08 at 1:45 pm
@ #271:
Drudge does a flashback of Obama’s middle finger to Hillary.
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/04/obamaflipsoffcl.html
LizzyinCT 11.03.08 at 1:46 pm
I am a BASKETCASE today!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! holy crap!!! I feel like I am a caged … PUMA. ROFL
Asian4Hillary 11.03.08 at 1:46 pm
Working on the phone pay off. Me and my friend have been working for months to convert NObama supporter to vote for McCain. After 30 days working her out, sending youtubes in her email issues NObama reneged left and right, she’s saying now she’ll either not vote tomorrow or vote for McCain. She’s under a lot of stress when she finds out Richardson stated only those making $120,000 will get a tax cut, the rest will get tax increase according to NObama’s tax plan. She said this morning how can she afford raising her two children under NObama’s tax plan, she is also worried she’ll lose her job – her employer, a small business owner already informed her and her co-workers if NObama wins, he has no choice but to lay off majority of them (20 employees), only family members according to her would be left working for the company.
Lorelai 11.03.08 at 1:46 pm
I agree with Anna7000. The middle finger is a bit of a stretch….
But, it IS patronizing and condescending (how unusual) for him to be giving what appears to be a victory speech today.
I was walking to lunch and there were throng of Obamots at the street corners and I muttered something like (couldn’t help myself), “I will never vote for Obama.” And one of the women responded, “Well, he hates you anyway”….nice, huh?
diva2 11.03.08 at 1:46 pm
Smile
A friend sent me this…
HOW TO START EACH DAY WITH A SMILE….
1. Open a new file in your computer.
2. Name it ‘Barack Obama’.
3. Send it to the Recycle Bin.
4. Empty the Recycle Bin.
5. Your PC will ask you: ‘Do you really want to get rid
of ‘Barack Obama?’
6. Firmly Click ‘Yes.’
7. Feel better?
GOOD – Tomorrow we’ll do Nancy Pelosi!
BillieJo 11.03.08 at 1:47 pm
Drudge:
Prepare for chaos: U.S. electoral system warned it ‘can’t cope’ as historic number of voters cast their ballot
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1082591/Prepare-chaos-U-S-electoral-warned-cope-historic-number-voters-cast-ballot.html
I suggest that all PUMAs stay around their voting polls as long as they can tomorrow and make sure no monkey business happens.
If it does, who should we call on our cell phones?????????
Rodham in Flag 11.03.08 at 1:47 pm
Are there any Spanish speaking Pumas here – I want to blog on all the Spanish Speaking Newspapers in swing States but don’t know how to say the following:
Please do not vote for Sen Obama – I need my job and YOU need electricity
Hidden Audio: Obama Tells SF Chronicle He Will Bankrupt Coal
Industry : http://newsbusters.org/blogs/p-j-gladnick/2008/11/02/hidden-audio-obama-tells-sf-chronicle-he-will-bankrupt-coal-industry
Anna7000 11.03.08 at 1:47 pm
Obama goes after not only coal industry, but agriculture:
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2008/11/obama_wants_to_destroy_agricul.html
TerryDo 11.03.08 at 1:48 pm
kevink 11.03.08 at 12:54 pm
# 221 REPOST
********************PROWL ALERT****************************
Here’s the LA Times Prowl Murphy!
PUMAs– help support goofsdad and all the other protesters gathering around the LA Times building!
Puma PAC, People United Means Action, http://www.pumapac.org DEMANDS that you release the videotape of the Rashid Khalidi dinner. Our democracy depends upon a free press. You are undermining our democracy by suppressing this tape!
Sincerely,
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Just finished this prowl, if you have not already emailed the LA Times please email as soon as possible.
HP Boston 11.03.08 at 1:48 pm
Okay had some lunch now back to calling for McCain.
Anna7000 thanks for the talking points.using em!
Oh I think I lost my dental hygienist..she said she was voting BO and I said hell NO. Not good to have someone with a sharp instrument in my mouth I pissed off! OUCH!
She did say she would take a look at Puma blog, I wrote it down for her….
DancesWithPumas 11.03.08 at 1:51 pm
Obamawaaaaaaaaaaah
Obama says attacks on wife ‘completely out of bounds’
Posted: 12:45 PM ET
From CNN Ticker Producer Alexander Mooney
Obama was unhappy with negative remarks made about his wife during the campaign.
(CNN) – Looking back at his two-year marathon for the presidency, Barack Obama told CBS he was most angered by “right-wing” attacks on his wife, Michelle, and said many of them were “completely out of bounds.”
“Frankly, I would never have considered or expected my allies to do something comparable to the spouse of an opponent. I just feel like family are civilians.”
::::::women are civilians too, but he never once said cunt, bitch, ho, etc. were out of bounds. :::::::
Mrs. Obama was also been labeled “Obama’s baby mama,” by Fox News….
::::snip::::
Uh, Mrs Obama was the first to say “I’m Barack’s babies’ mama.”
Lorelai 11.03.08 at 1:52 pm
Here’s my voter experience so far in Ohio. I sent in my absentee ballot from the Post Office two weeks ago yesterday. One of the Obablamots canvassing in my neighborhood yesterday said “I have you on my list to call – we have no record of your absentee ballot”. He assumed I voted for Obama.
I said I had mailed it two weeks ago and he told me I better call Franklin County Board of Elections (Ohio) to check on status.
AFter being on hold for an hour this morning, I was told to come to
the Board of Elections and get another absentee ballot. I drove over their at lunch, requested the ballot and was told: “No, you have to go to your polling place tomorrow and vote with a provisional ballot” because there is already an absentee one floating around out there. wtf I voted absentee because I can’t wait around in long lines tomorrow morning before work. Just call me
Runaround Sue. (now that dates me!)…..
I wonder if my ballot would be lost had I voted for Oblama. I’m just saying….
diva2 11.03.08 at 1:53 pm
#260 BillieJo
I will never forget when he did that to her. He thinks he is so sly but he actually is just slime.
mlhath 11.03.08 at 1:54 pm
I haven’t posted in a while. But still read often.
I wonder how the troops in WWll felt the night before D-Day.
Scared, anxious, excited. While I certainly don’t fear for my life, I absolutely do fear for the life of my country.
I won’t be wearing orange tomorrow. I don’t own any, uless I carry a pumpkin. But I will be wearing one of my Hillary shirts. And I will be voting for Hillary. That I can only do that by pulling the lever for John McCain is a minor technicality.
And, Murphy. Thank you!
slyt2 11.03.08 at 1:54 pm
Ok just got done sending out emails (i’ve been at it since 7 this morning)my fingers are numb anyways, relaxing getting ready to read the post on here and Barack Obama calls me ( a recording)this is like the 5th one i’ve gotten I’m gonna unplug my phone I swear.
mzebest 11.03.08 at 1:54 pm
Murphy and PUMA’s
Just a thought here on the color orange. We have been assuming that orange (and the fact that Hillary wore it at convention speech) was a symbol to rebel. And while this is still true — I would like to offer another interpretation of the color that has been nagging at me for quite some time ever since seeing the videos on Odinga.
Has anyone made the connection that the color orange might be standing for the Orange Democratic Party? The one that Odinga talks about along with his slogans of “Change”?
Just saying that I’m not so sure the color orange might be representative of a good thing. Any thoughts on this?
windybon 11.03.08 at 1:55 pm
#268 fmster –
Here’s a couple:
OH Coal Association says ‘Obama is NOT our friend’
http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/Ohio-Coal-Association-Says-Obama/story.aspx?guid={DFD1EBEB-73EC-4661-B8BA-40D8EBD7D93D}
Coal official calls Obama comments ‘unbelievable’
http://www.wvrecord.com
mountainsong 11.03.08 at 1:55 pm
Hey Barack—- We don’t know if you’re really a citizen, or really a Christian. How do we know she’s your WIFE????
hillstheone 11.03.08 at 1:56 pm
#46 Wow, great post Murphy, be neat to put that up-top tomorrow, might give us all courage?!! It’s really great to read stuff like that.
TerryDo 11.03.08 at 1:57 pm
kat in your hat 11.03.08 at 1:41 pm
http://www.drudgereport.com/
Look at Drudge now. Obama’s MIDDLE FINGER.
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Imagine a gutter mouth like Obama ever representing all of American. First he gives middle finger to Hillary and now to McCain, and pretty soon, it will be to the American people.
Who wipes their mouth with the middle finger except perverts.
As Hillary once declared, Shame on you Obama, Shame on you!
kevink 11.03.08 at 1:58 pm
#275
No prob Lizzy!
Is Goofsmom here? Do we have an update on the LA Times Conga Line?
indy 11.03.08 at 1:59 pm
#249 Grizzly – That’s a great article. I go on the Canada Press every day, since I found it a couple of months ago.
It’s a shame we have to go to Canada for news and that our real journalists have to go to Canada and overseas to get published.
Even when I put up articles on RCP after a while, they take them down. Some times they just won’t submit them at all.
The MSM and these sites who are in the tank for Obama are going to be sorry when they’re out of business due to our boycotts.
They deserve everything they get!
mountainsong 11.03.08 at 1:59 pm
mzebest All that matters, really, is what the color Orange means to YOU!!!!
slyt2 11.03.08 at 2:01 pm
Has anyone seen this ad yet,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjmECyBjRxI
DancesWithPumas 11.03.08 at 2:02 pm
BillieJo 11.03.08 at 1:47 pm
Prepare for chaos: U.S. electoral system warned it ‘can’t cope’ as
I suggest that all PUMAs stay around their voting polls as long as they can tomorrow and make sure no monkey business happens.
If it does, who should we call on our cell phones?????????
_____________________________________________
Check the Election Kit in the Action Center…
print th efirst two pages of the document and carry them with you tomorrow. In same document, scroll down to your state for specifics.
http://pumapac.org/quickresponse.html
while you’re there…. take a look at the other document: VOTE
BillieJo 11.03.08 at 2:05 pm
Thanks Dances!
Grizzly 11.03.08 at 2:06 pm
VERY interesting. This little bit of news came out today to little fanfare:
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gN9T-Fq6Yujg60xXbzkd7oiOn8UQD9477RS80
CARACAS, Venezuela (AP) — Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez said Sunday that he is willing to talk with Barack Obama if the Democratic candidate wins Tuesday’s election.
Yeah, add Hugo to the list with HAMAS, Hezbollah, Libya, Iran, etc. No big deal, right? WRONG!
It turns out that Hugo has some extremely close ties with good old Bill Ayers:
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2008/10/william_ayers_and_hugo_chavez.html
“There is zero doubt he approved of this description of who he is below on the Venezuelan government Web site. I translated it into English for you:
Bill Ayers
USA
bayers@uic.edu
212-576-8274
William Ayers was the leader of the revolutionary and anti-imperialist group The Weather Underground which initiated armed struggle against the government of the USA during most of the 10 years from inside the empire.
Now, he’s a professor of education and executive investigator of the University of Illinois in Chicago. He’s developed courses around the urban reform of schools, problems of capitalist education, and investigation. He is the author or editor of more than 11 books, including a memoir titled Fugitive Days on the struggle against the government of the United States.”
And apparently the Ayers’ ties to the Chavez regime is a family affair. Ayers’ son, Chesa Boudin, worked as an intern in Hugo’s foreign policy team. http://www.thenation.com/directory/bios/chesa_boudin
Hugo Chavez has close ties to a Marxist terror group operating in South America known as FARC. These long suspected ties were confirmed earlier this year during a raid to free hostages held by FARC, including Americans that had been FARC’s captives for years. After the raid that successfully freed the hostages, the authorities also seized a computer from one of FARC’s leaders that contained credible information linking Chavez to FARC.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,356236,00.html
But there was more, much more on that computer. Part of the trove on information on that computer discussed Obama, and two “gringos” who they had met with that told them about Obama’s pending ascension to the US presidency.
http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/06/obamas_war.html
“Obama may already be working with Hugo Chavez and the narco-war against Colombia. Columbian troops March 1 nailed narco-guerilla leader Raul Reyes just across the border in Ecuador. In response, Chavez threatened to invade Columbia. Information on a laptop computer found with Reyes’ corpse detailed the FARC guerillas’relations with both Venezuela and Ecuador and included a February 28 letter from Reyes to the FARC Secretariat. The letter details extensive FARC relations with the governments of Colombia and Ecuador and includes this item:
“The gringos called for a meeting with the minister to ask him to tell us they are interested in talking about several topics. They claim they new president in their country will be Obama and that these people are interested in their fellow citizens. Obama will support neither Plan Colombia nor the signature of the Free Trade Agreement. In this regard, we replied we are interested in relations with the governments that are on equal grounds and that in the case of the United States, a public statement voicing their interest in talking to the FARC is needed, given their eternal war against us.”
Given Ayers ties to Chavez, there is certainly a possibility that he was one of the two “gringos” who met with FARC. But, there is even stronger evidence that at least one of those gringos was Bernardine Dohrn:
http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2008/04/recurring-ties-between-obama-and.html
In a Feb. 28 letter, FARC chieftain Raul Reyes cheerily reported to his inner circle that he met “two gringos” who assured him “the new president of their country will be Obama and that they are interested in your compatriots. Obama will not support ‘Plan Colombia’ nor will he sign the TLC (Free Trade Agreement).”
Aside from some interesting possibilities about who these “gringos” are – a congressional delegation did visit Ecuador and an international leftist “congress” was held in Quito around this time – the real question is why anyone secretly consorting with FARC would be able to speak for presidential candidate Obama…
Interestingly, Dohrn has visited Colombia to rail against the pro-U.S. government! Is it possible that she served as a cutout to FARC for the Obama campaign?
At the request of … human rights groups, Cassel conducted another major investigation in 1998. He was asked to organize an unofficial tribunal to investigate a Colombian Air Force bombing… With help from colleague Bernardine Dohrn, director of the law school’s Children and Family Justice Center, Cassel convened an unofficial “tribunal of opinion” in Chicago. The tribunal, chaired by former Illinois Supreme Court Justice Seymour Simon, unanimously found the Colombian government responsible for the bombing and recommended proper prosecutions. The government was invited to the tribunal and declined to participate, so Cassel and Dohrn went to Colombia to present their case to the people.”
Were Ayers and Dohrn serving as an Obama advance team with South American terrorists? The FARC ties are significant for another reason – FARC has ties to both Hamas and the Taliban. http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa3827/is_/ai_n8955835
And Hamas is Iran’s wholly owned subsidiary.
Incredible.
BillieJo 11.03.08 at 2:06 pm
Check the Election Kit in the Action Center…
print th efirst two pages of the document and carry them with you tomorrow. In same document, scroll down to your state for specifics.
http://pumapac.org/quickresponse.html
This link doesn’t work…will try the old school way.
feebie 11.03.08 at 2:06 pm
The Coal news is pretty huge. If Coal goes bankrupt because coal use becomes obsolete due to alternative energy sources (private industry working towards cleaner environment) that is one thing. But for him to say the Gooberment is going to play a role in purposely crippling an industry…this again, is what scares me about this man. When are his “sheeple” gonna wake up and see the edge of the cliff he is leading them off of?
On another note, I dont post here a lot and I am fascinated by the new information I am gathering from everyones links. Go PUMA’s. Its great! I’m an independant voter as I’ve said before, and I was really shocked to see how the media turned on Clinton and was in the tank SO obviously for Sir Obozo. I
But it was mentioned above that Obozo didnt win the primaries? I hadn’t heard this. Could someone direct me to where I can find out more about this? That pisses me off. It does because I would have voted (I vote mostly Republican, but not always) for Clinton over McCain in a heartbeat. The simple truth is, she is more qualified then McCain in my honest opinion. As far as Obozo and McCain, that is an ABSOLUTE no brainer. McCain all the way (and Palin is an abosulte gem)!
So what exactly took the Democratic Candidate Nomination from Clinton? Can someone help me here?
Thanks
Feebz
slyt2 11.03.08 at 2:07 pm
Oh terrydo thank you for that flip off video off to the media again be back (hopefully before General Hospital)
Grizzly 11.03.08 at 2:07 pm
Damn – Just finished an analysis on Obama, Ayers, Dohrn, Chavez and FARC – that got bumped into moderation.
BigCatLover 11.03.08 at 2:07 pm
Have emailed and faxed the LA Times again about the video. Has Goofsmaom reported back about the protest yet. I need to get caught up on all the posts on this thread.
I’m still checking my email box for a reply from all the emails I sent to Ohio and VA newspapers, tv stations and radio stations about the Obama campaign disabling the security on credit card donations so they can’t be traced to their source, but so far I’ve only gotten a couple acknowledgments that they received my email.
DancesWithPumas 11.03.08 at 2:08 pm
http://www.pumapac.org/QuickResponse.html
lurker 11.03.08 at 2:09 pm
Doesn’t surprise me, being from Palm Beach county that has had nothing but problems for years, this year is just making it worse. Seems if you didn’t call in you wouldn’t get your adsentee ballot even thought they had received it a couple of weeks ago.
ohiopubbie 11.03.08 at 2:09 pm
diva2, #283
thanks, I needed that
DancesWithPumas 11.03.08 at 2:09 pm
Billie, sorry, see 310
or here lol
http://www.pumapac.org/QuickResponse.html
1gypsy4mc 11.03.08 at 2:09 pm
Grizzly Do you have gmail? I have some info and what you’re researching!!
lurker 11.03.08 at 2:10 pm
should read absentee
Middle age female 11.03.08 at 2:10 pm
I have decided I can not watch tv for awhile – I am sick of all the BS. I will get my news from here for at least the rest of the day.
stoney42 11.03.08 at 2:11 pm
E-mailed LA Times.
I have an orange ribbon tied to my wrist watch band.
TexasTigress 11.03.08 at 2:11 pm
PUMAS ROCK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
KEEP THE PRESSURE ON !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Alice Rodham Puma 11.03.08 at 2:11 pm
Obama flips off McCain, just as he did with Hillary.
First seen here, posted here Original youtube herePic here
alohapuma 11.03.08 at 2:13 pm
Pumas,
Take An Inspiration Break. Turn up the volume and relax for a minute.
Feel Free – by Theresa Walker
http://www.feelfreetoprosper.com/audio/mp3/Songs/feelfree.mp3
DancesWithPumas 11.03.08 at 2:13 pm
EVERYONE:
Please, check the “Election Quick Response Kit” in the Action Center.
Print the first two pages of the document and carry them with you tomorrow. In same document, scroll down to your state for specifics..
http://www.pumapac.org/QuickResponse.html
While you’re there, take a look at the other document: VOTE
You’ll want to review this chart to guide you through the election results tomorrow night.
Shout out to DEW, the Puma who sent this to the Action center yesterday!
TexasTigress 11.03.08 at 2:14 pm
Jewish life TV – 24 hour Jewish news in all 50 states ! lets send them all of our info on Obama’s network of Anti-Islamists !!!!!!!!
info@blazermediagroup.com;
diva2 11.03.08 at 2:15 pm
New Rasmussen polls up on fox. McCain is leading in several battleground states! FL, NC, tied in MO and OH nobo up slightly in VA and CO. I don’t usually believe polls but glad to see this and basically known this all along.
kat in your hat 11.03.08 at 2:15 pm
Grizzly:
Did you write about the pro-Obama papers found on some killed FARC terrorists?
Also, there was a big gaffe, Obama said that he would meet with FARC, but then there was backlash and he fixed what he said.
Also, Chavez–totally talk about Ayers’ relationship with Chavez. Ayers and Dorn’s son lives down in Venezuela, etc.
Ok, I will be back later.
slyt2 11.03.08 at 2:16 pm
hey got a good letter back from a reporter now (unlike that one who asked me if I worked in a coal mine)
hi xxxxx, you’re right. this has started a small fire. the people in PA,
OH, WV and KY have been informed I assure you.
TLCPUMA 11.03.08 at 2:16 pm
HELLO ALL PUMAS
IM STILL WITH YOU ALL I HAVENT POSTED IN A WHILE ,BUT I HAVE BEEN READING POST DAILY !!!!
GO PUMAS GO
LETS SHOW THIS MEDIA WE ARE HERE [[[[THE PUMA EFFECT]]]
IM WORKING AS HARD AS I CAN TO MAKE SURE OBIE LOSES IN A LANDSLIDE AND SEND HIM BACK TO CHICAGO WITH THE THUGS !!
ALELROD
WRIGHT
FARRACAN
REZKCO
KILEDI[[OR HOW EVER U SPELL IT]]
AYERS
MOSS [FROM THE CHURCH OF HELL THAT HE SAID HE LEFT ]]
TOO MANY OTHERS
AND LETS MAKE OPRAH CRY HER EYELASHES OFF WHEN OBAMA LOSES
HILLARY SUPPORTER FOR MCCAIN/PALIN
A PROUD PUMA
TLC
murphy 11.03.08 at 2:16 pm
Has everyone read this excellent article by Cristal Phillips at Huffington Post? it’s all about PUUMAS! All about us and it’s extremely objective, fair, and accurate (except she said Wayne SIngleton founded People United Means Action, no fair — but that’s ok — Wayne’s a really good guy)
Zillions of people read huffpo — Bring the Puma Prairie Fire there — comment, comment, comment — and ALWAYS post links, back to here or to any other site in the Pumasphere.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/christal-phillips/clinton-democrats-the-med_b_140493.html
As Kat would say, GO GO GO!
TexasTigress 11.03.08 at 2:17 pm
Letter I sent to jewish news
The media still refuses to connect the dots with the Obama inner circle – . What do all of these people (past relationshipsAyersWrightKahlidi etc. And all of his staffers and campaign advisors includingPowersBrezinskiGenMcPeakBonioretc.etc ) have in common ? They all want Israel taken off the map . Powers even went so far as to call for an invasion of Israel .
Ayers dedicated his bookPrairie Fire to Sirhan Sirhan who killed Kennedy . Why did he kill Kennedy ? According to his fatherit was because Kennedy supported Israel and Sirhan had been harmed by ‘the Jews” . WAKE UPFOLKS …
Quote from Sirhan Sirhan’s father – Sirhan’s fatherBishararegretted Kennedy’s death but his hatred and contempt shone through in a statement he made to reporters in the days following his son’s arrest. Bisharahimself a victim of Palestinian propagandasaid”I can say that I do not regret his death as Kennedy the American politician who attempted to gain the presidential election by his aggressive propaganda against the Arab people of Palestine…Kennedy was promising the Zionists to supply them with arms and aircraft…and thus provoked the sensitive feelings of Sirhan who had suffered so much from the Jews…It is not fair to accuse my son without a full examination of Zionist atrocities against the Arabs – those atrocities which received the support and blessings of Robert Kennedy.”
Anti- Israel advisor to Obama – Tony McPeak
(IsraelNN.com) Once again a furor surrounding US Presidential candidate Barack Obama has erupted this time over a senior military advisor to the Obama campaign with a history of anti-Israel remarks. He has strongly criticized pro-Israel Jews in the United States for allegedly torpedoing peace efforts in the Middle East. Http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/125688
Obama’s Foreign policy advisorZibgniew Brezinski
Zbigniew Brzezinski is Obama`s foreign policy adviser. Mark SiegelJewish liaison to J. Carter said ZB was”a major obstacle…between [Pres. Carter] and the Jewish community.” ZB praised the Mearsheimer/Walt book “The Israel Lobby.” Obama sponsored a link on the Amazon.com page for the bookbut later pulled it off.
He also said this of pro Israel people”"They operate not by arguing but by slandering vilifying demonising. They very promptly wheel out anti-Semitism. There is an element of paranoia in this inclination to view any serious attempt at a compromised peace as somehow directed against Israel.” http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/2033694/Barack-Obama%27s-consultant-accuses-Jewish-lobby-members-of-McCarthyism.html
David Bonior chosen to represent Obama at the DNC meeting in DC -
In a press release the Republican Jewish Coalition pointed to a disturbing pattern in Obama’s appointments: “Barack Obama’s path to strengthening ties with the Jewish community is severely blocked when appointing an anti-Israel figure like David Bonior. While in CongressBonior refused to stand by Israel after repeated terrorist attackswas known as a stalwart opponent to Israeland is now a representative for Barack Obama. Bonior’s appointment is the latest in a series that raises serious questions and doubts about Barack Obama’s positions and judgments on the Middle East.” http://web.israelinsider.com/Articles/Politics/12883.htm
Rev. Wright’s Anti- Israel Sermon – http://videos.emule.com/play/barack-obamas-mentor-Jeremiah-wright—anti-Israel-sermon-%28FnI431s1r6s
Samantha Power – Obama a keyForeign Policy advisor -Called for an invasion of Israel – “Samantha Powera key Obama adviser called in 2002 for billions of dollars in US military aid to Israel to be invested instead in Palestine and in a “mammoth” US-backed military force to impose a solution to the “Palestine-Israeli situation” on the pretext of preventing Rwanda-like genocide. ” http://www.joelstrumpet.com/?p=1513
This list is far from complete but there is no denying the obvious intent by Obama to surround himself with people that share the common goal of a Middle East that does not include one of America’s staunchest alliesIsrael . If you do not understand this you do not understand who is running to be President of the United States .
gumbykat 11.03.08 at 2:17 pm
Absentee Ballots in Ohio………
November 1, 2008 by Soren
The Dayton Daily News reports that Miami County election officials are trying to figure out how 70 unsigned, but otherwise voted, absentee ballots were returned to the board of elections:
Miami County election officials Friday, Oct. 31, asked prosecutors and the sheriff’s office to investigate suspected voter fraud involving at least 70 absentee ballots.
Elections Director Steve Quillen said elections staff began asking questions about absentee ballots previously set aside when several voters complained they had not received their ballots. The ballots were set aside because their envelopes were not signed by the recipients.
These were requested absentee ballots that never made it to their voters but were returned anyways. Quillen notes that they all went out through the same post office:
Quillen said absentee ballots are left at the Troy post office, where officials said they then go to Dayton for processing and return to the county for delivery.
TexasTigress 11.03.08 at 2:18 pm
Not anti- Islamists – geeze! Anti-Israelists !!!!! I have to slow down !!!!! The letter in
#328 is for anyone to use .
ElyLos Angeles 11.03.08 at 2:23 pm
Rodham in Flag # 285
Please do not vote for Sen Obama – I need my job and YOU need electricity
Por favor NO vote por el Senador Obama – Yo necesito el empleo y USTED necesita la electricidad.
BillieJo 11.03.08 at 2:26 pm
feebie
Welcome, to find out why we say that the primary was stolen from Hillary, see this website of the caucus fraud research: http://www.lynettelong.com/caucusfraud/my-story.html
shasta2001 11.03.08 at 2:27 pm
I voted absentee but will go by my polling place tomorrow to check on it.
Heidi Li 11.03.08 at 2:27 pm
A fabulous and inspiring post, Murphy. Thank you for writing it, and all the others.
alohapuma 11.03.08 at 2:28 pm
Now this would bring “Change we can believe in”
If Obama Loses, Who Gets Blamed?
His loss would be disastrous for the media and political establishment.
By John Dickerson
Posted Sunday, Nov. 2, 2008, at 9:21 PM ET
CLEVELAND—If Barack Obama wins the election, it will be historic. And if he loses, it will be pretty historic, too: It would mark the biggest collective error in the history of the media and political establishment.
http://www.slate.com/id/2203420/?GT1=38001
Heidi Li 11.03.08 at 2:28 pm
IMPORTANT UPDATE ON THE DENVER GROUP:
The Denver Group has been able to put its Obama-Nixon ad on the air one more time in Miami and one more time in Michigan both for tomorrow morning. If we can raise another $400 bucks by 3 pm eastern we can run the ad again in Miami. For more on this see: http://tdg.typepad.com/democrats_for_principle_b/2008/11/november-3-midday-update-what-we-can-still-do-and-a-repeat-reminder-of-our-mission.html
feebie 11.03.08 at 2:29 pm
Article: Clinton Democrats: The Media Has It Wrong http://www.huffingtonpost.com/christal-phillips/clinton-democrats-the-med_b_140493.html
KYkitten 11.03.08 at 2:30 pm
murphy you lighted my fire even brighter today!– I have been posting like mad on blogs/newspaper sites etc links etc as you suggested- i am in indiana
feebie 11.03.08 at 2:30 pm
Thank you Billie Jo.
Heidi Li 11.03.08 at 2:30 pm
Finally, with regard to going forward – my two cents for today: http://tdg.typepad.com/heidi_lis_potpourri/2008/11/resolved.html
KYkitten 11.03.08 at 2:31 pm
here’s a funny , if you need a laugh
– i was thinking about all the overstock merch there will be tomorrow
and made this quick photoshop –
http://s466.photobucket.com/albums/rr29/nobo_08/?action=view¤t=overstock.jpg
snowtiger007 11.03.08 at 2:31 pm
murphy 11.03.08 at 2:16 pm
Has everyone read this excellent article by Cristal Phillips at Huffington Post? it’s all about PUUMAS! All about us and it’s extremely objective, fair, and accurate (except she said Wayne SIngleton founded People United Means Action, no fair — but that’s ok — Wayne’s a really good guy)
Zillions of people read huffpo — Bring the Puma Prairie Fire there — comment, comment, comment — and ALWAYS post links, back to here or to any other site in the Pumasphere.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/christal-phillips/clinton-democrats-the-med_b_140493.html
As Kat would say, GO GO GO!
************************************************************************
Don’t fall for that. I think we just saw the new strategy.
Al of a sudden the Obots are being “kind and gentle and understanding” to PUMAS?
Open your eyes.
They need PUMAS to to back down.
Assuming the authoress believes bobo will win, they need to stop PUMAS from pushing the DNC on the fraud and corruption. If we keep going on, “O” is in big trouble. His presidency will be seen as illegitimate and be ineffective.
Assuming she knows he will lose, PUMAS are going to take back the democratic party and the power players behind “O” will be tossed out.
Remember. “O’ is only the figure head. The real agenda doesn’t need him. The agenda will still exist.
DONT BE FOOLED!
TXRepGirl 11.03.08 at 2:32 pm
alohapuma #337. Exactly. I was just telling my friend. When evil loses, evil turns on evil. You’re going to tell me that Ayers and his bunch is not going to find SOMEBODY to blame? What if they turn on the Panthers, and the Panthers turn on the Palestinians, who turn on the Ayers group–the Marxists, the Socialist, who turn on the media and the pollsters, and the whole thing just disintegrates!
Now that’s a prairie fire I can believe in!
gojoyknocks 11.03.08 at 2:33 pm
Murphy..If I don’t receive my orange “Howard” shirt tomorrow I will be giving new meaning to voting Nothing On Top!
TexasTigress 11.03.08 at 2:33 pm
Is this happening anywhere else?????
My friend just called from the grocery store and the lot is FULL and the shelves are emptying out – just like before a hurricane or something …
diva2 11.03.08 at 2:33 pm
Feebie,
One of the biggest issues was the huge amount of voter fraud -primarily in caucases and some in the primaries. Lynette Long, one of many who did the research on this found it was statistically IMPOSSIBLE for the numbers to be as recorded. Nobo’s campaign, lied, bulled, harrassed, threatened, imtimidated and assaulted Hillary supporters/voters at the caucases to keep them from voting or participating. They lied, forged documents, overtook caucases and said you could only vote there if you were for Obama. They stole voting packets and wrote in bunches of names, they bussed in people from other states to caucas for nobo. ALL ILLEGAL!! In many of the primaries, there was blatant nobo favoritism by poll workers, wearing nobo t-shirts, hats, buttons, signs offering to help people vote with Obama’s name clearly printed on the sign.
During the dem convention, Hillary’s delelgates, were harrassed, coerced, bullied and had severe pressure put on them. It is illegal in 13 states for a delegate to not vote for the candidate you were chosen to vote for. But the harrassment was so bad, many were not allowed to vote. The Dems forced a hand-written vote of the delegates in their hotel rooms. There was no chain of custody for the votes so they could have been destroyed, changed or disappeared. The delegates were NOT allowed to vote for Hillary on the floor. My brother had dinner with a Hillary delegate after the faux vote and he said the vote was a “sham.”
Hillary even tried to stop the fraud, but to no avail. Here is some info. that might help. I will try and find some of my links and send them to you. I know there are links to the information on the Pumapac resources and or information. The election was absolutely STOLEN from Hillary. That I know for a fact!
McCain-PalinGuy 11.03.08 at 2:36 pm
Hey, fellow McCain/Palin voters!
Wanna hear the good news???
McCain and Palin are going to win!!
CHECK THIS OUT FROM FOX NEWS!!
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/11/03/fox-newsrasmussen-reports-poll-mccain-narrows-gap-in-battleground-states/
and all McCain needs is Indiana OR Pennsylvania!!
WE’RE GONNA WIN, PUMAS!!
KYkitten 11.03.08 at 2:36 pm
I am not falling for that HuffPo article! remember the patronizing article that lea lane posted on HuffPo about how to talk to hillary supporters?????
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lea-lane/eat-crow-hell-yes-to-win_b_126712.html
and i’ve tried to post comments on huffpo many times — and they never even show as pending etc. I tried to reply to an article about my home state of KY–
ladyhawkke 11.03.08 at 2:37 pm
FEEBE: Here’s one link
http://caucuscheating.blogspot.com/
The other one would be Dr. Lynette Long, I don’t have her website handy
Also look up “We will not be silenced”
DancesWithPumas 11.03.08 at 2:37 pm
Good article!
Posted this comment (but, in my singlemindedness I forgot to complimnet the author.):
“Wayne Singleton, the founder of the widely publicized group People United Means Action (PUMA) — the people of color umbrella –”
CORRECTION:
Darragh Murphy is the founder and executive director of Puma PAC (People United Means Action). Wayne Singleton is the founder of pocpuma (People of Color).
McCain-PalinGuy 11.03.08 at 2:37 pm
I know I’ve posted this before, but check it out!!
Hey, fellow McCain/Palin voters!
Wanna hear the good news???
McCain and Palin are going to win!!
CHECK THIS OUT FROM FOX NEWS!!
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/11/03/fox-newsrasmussen-reports-poll-mccain-narrows-gap-in-battleground-states/
and all McCain needs is Indiana OR Pennsylvania!!
WE’RE GONNA WIN, PUMAS
snowtiger007 11.03.08 at 2:38 pm
Re my post at 344
“Dear, you understand why I hit you? You aggravate me. You force me to, Now I understand why you do those things and maybe I misinterpreted them.
I’m sure we can work this out. I’ll be more considerate of your side if you will try and not aggravate me. After all, I love you, Thats why I get that way. If I dind’t care so much you wouldn’t have this effect on me.”
slyt2 11.03.08 at 2:39 pm
OMG a reporter just emailed me back and said
Dear XXXXX,
Thank you for the e-mail and the link to the youtube clip. However, I
think it is clear that Sen. Obama is scratching his lips and face. Thank
you though for the email.
Todd Faulkner
Todd Faulkner
Weekend Anchor/Reporter
WPSD LOCAL6
100 Television Lane
Paducah, KY 42003
1gypsy4mc 11.03.08 at 2:40 pm
I just called the White House and got sent all over the place!! The last guy told me that B. Hussein’s real birth certificate is posted on-line. Of course I got p.’d.!! Then I was told to get ahold of the F.E.C……….hello???
snowtiger007 11.03.08 at 2:40 pm
McCain-PalinGuy
ROCK ON! Finally someone is setting the stage for what we KNOW is going to happen,
McCain-PalinGuy 11.03.08 at 2:42 pm
about my above post of the new FOX news poll…
Look at the margins…there’s no way Obama is going to get all those votes! And this poll is BEFORE THE COAL ISSUE!!
This is looking really good, PUMAs!!
Oblahma is sailing a sinking ship!!
WOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
58states1 11.03.08 at 2:42 pm
This is from a recent post of mine on a blog– It was done in haste so not as organized as I’d like, but in case it’s useful fodder for anyone here it is. For many the ayers/wright connections are not believed or don’t matter to them. But the other thing that has been vastly lacking in this campaign is simply what has Obama DONE to actually prove he is both willing and able to bring about this “change” stuff. Why aren’t there coalitions of constituents? Of folks in the housing projects in his district whose lives he turned around? Oh wait… never mind! *snark*
This is the stuff folks need to hear if they really believe in him. In the IDEAL of him and what he says he will do. Challenge folks to examine his RECORD. What has he DONE? What gives you faith that he can change Washington?
“”"”re: who we are, umm… okay I’m white… but not male, not racist, don’t own a gun never held one in fact. Never voted for a non-Dem either. Obama should’ve been preaching to the choir w/ me. Why do I not support him then? Simple enough. I see nothing in his past performance that gives me any faith in either his ability or desire to bring about this mythical “change”. I see a very skilled pol… a product of the Chicago environment he rose from… who is good enough to convince people he’s “above” and “beyond” politics. Like I said– he’s a VERY skilled politician.
But for all the promises– what has changed? When has he stayed long enough in one place to do something other than begin running for higher office? Why is it that his programs and efforts result in… more $ for himself and his friends more than actual accomplishment of the promised improvements? What does that tell me? I don’t care what he looks like or what faith he has or doesn’t have. Don’t care a bit. I DO care that he champions causes and promises things he doesn’t deliver.
Anyone who thinks he is a true agent of change, a man who can and will better the lives of those he represents, will leave the world a better place… should read this:
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2008/06/27/grim_proving_ground_for_obamas_housing_policy/
No, it’s not a blog, not a right-wing conservative site. Not even from Fox. It’s a story from early this year in the Boston Globe about Obama’s housing policies in Chicago and how it worked out. It’s sad. Truly sad. THOSE are the people he promises to help. They believe him. We believe him. But in the end… are they ANY better off? Seems to me he counts his $ and moves on.
There is no GOOD way to look at this record. Perhaps he thought his friends were trustworthy (judgment??). Perhaps he didn’t see that they were not following through on their side of the bargain (housing improvements) once they got the money he steered their way. (executive skill? Oversight? If he can’t follow up on a few grant projects, how on earth can he run a country effectively?!) These were constituents. People who believed in him. Believed he was different. Did he knowingly let them down, or was he simply “unaware” of the lives of HIS constituents? I don’t think either answer does him any favors.
He could have had better oversight. Could have checked up. Could have talked to “the people”. Could have reminded his friends what they were supposed to do. Yet what I see is money. Money going from campaign to campaign. From politicians to politicians. From gov’t grants to projects to … project management. Funny how the improvements for those folks at the bottom don’t pan out.
Can anyone tell us how that is CHANGE? How that can give anyone faith in his ability (and even desire) to deliver?
Can any politician, even longterm veterans, boast the list of connections Obama does? To chicago and now washington? What has he done to rise so high in these circles? What promises stand to be paid back if he enters the white house?
To me it’s one more example of how it’s really just more of the same… power and money. Ambition and connections. To package it up and sell it as “change” is well a bit disingenuous at best. To me, it’s more proof that he uses anyone to get what he wants… these masses he looks down on are useful for votes perhaps, but in the end, they don’t matter THAT much, do they? Perhaps they’ll get what’s left over, when the money and favors have been divvied up among himself and his friends.
What I want to hear is what the people he’s represented think. Not the powerful. The folks he promised a difference to. If he really has done so, I’d like to hear about it, and maybe I’ll revise my opinion of him. But I haven’t see it yet, and I’m not holding my breath. ”
“”"”
BrianH 11.03.08 at 2:42 pm
Here’s a viewpoint you might not have caught previously, one I’ve mentioned once before: Nibras Kazimi, visiting Iraqi scholar:
freddiebrown 11.03.08 at 2:42 pm
Heidi Li
Donation of $450 – done
I hope it helps and is on time.
Have been sending emails.
Confirmation number: 0GP79363HX458135V.
RedStateGuy 11.03.08 at 2:43 pm
“If your television declares John McCain the president elect on the evening of November 4th, your television will be lying. You should immediately pick up your pre-packed bags and head straight to the White House in Washington, DC, which we will surround and shut down until this attempt at a third illegitimate presidency is reversed. We may be there for days or weeks or months. But we must be there. We must be there by the millions. We must show each other, and the nation, and the world that we have had enough, that we will not stand for one more stolen election, that we will not give in to fear, lies, theft, and intimidation.” –David Swanson, Washington director of Democrats.com and a board member of Progressive Democrats of America
Woodie 11.03.08 at 2:44 pm
Andy Martin is revealing who has those Khalidi tapes and also uncovering a massive fraud scheme that obama has performed on this election:
check it out: hot off the press http://contrariancommentary.blogspot.com/
Anna7000 11.03.08 at 2:44 pm
Interpretting Fox’s report on Rasmussen (btw, you can just go to Rasmussen so the info’s not second hand) as McCain only needing IN or PA is somewhat erroneous. Sorry. Don’t mean to burst your bubble, but if you read the report (or just go to Rasmussen), what you’ll see is that while the gap in the swing states has tightened slightly, Obama has a comfrotable lead overall. We’ll find out after the election who actually wins, but if you’re going to bother paying attention to polls, likely not as simple a path to the White House for McCain as posted in post #353.
Pookie 11.03.08 at 2:45 pm
slyt2#355: silly puma don’t you know everybody scratches with their F#ck off finger,that is except Puma’s and we use our whole paw
freddiebrown 11.03.08 at 2:45 pm
MURPHY or anyone who Knows HEIDI LI
I JUST READ HEIDI’S POST – SHE NEEDS $400 MORE BY 3 PM EASTERN
FOR THE LAST AD.
DENVER GROUP HAS $450 IN THEIR KITTY NOW
PLEASE CALL AND LET THEM KNOW -
Anna7000 11.03.08 at 2:45 pm
362 Red State Guy – That’s a quote I’d forward to Fox and post on blogs!
Woodie 11.03.08 at 2:45 pm
CAN ANYONE SEND MONEY TO MCCAIN…IT MAY HELP!!!!
snowtiger007 11.03.08 at 2:46 pm
RedStateGuy
RED, I need a link.
NewOrleansPuma 11.03.08 at 2:47 pm
TexasTigress: That is weird….Tex…I wanted to tell you how much I enjoyed actually Hearing your voice on the blog radio show last night…It was great and so were you, as ever!
feebie 11.03.08 at 2:47 pm
diva – thanks so much for taking the time to explain. i knew she should have won, but i had no idea this was what was taking place. WOW.
WHEN Mccain wins, do you think Hillary will be offered a cabinet position? Maybe she can run again in 2012?
This is just not okay.
mick 11.03.08 at 2:47 pm
TexasTigress #347
I don’t know but I’m going to the grocery store in about 30 minutes so I’m about to find out. I know that I’m treating this election like pre-hurricane time. I’ll be stocking up on a few extra things. We just don’t really know what Wednesday is going to look like. Scary, huh.
DancesWithPumas 11.03.08 at 2:48 pm
GO HEIDI LI !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Heidi Li 11.03.08 at 2:30 pm
Finally, with regard to going forward – my two cents for today: http://tdg.typepad.com/heidi_lis_potpourri/2008/11/resolved.html
“Resolved: to continue to refuse to accept that we must live with a politics awash in private money;
Resolved: to hold the media accountable and demand that they provide full information regardless of the editorial tilt of owners, editors, or reporters.
Resolved: to continue to refuse to accept so-called progressive or liberal leaders who do not make the issues of sexism and misogyny front and central in the fight for a more just America;
Resolved: to demand reform of the Democratic Party and particularly its leadership, or, in the alternative, work to form a rival to the current DNC if reform is unattainable;
Resolved: to make sure that the pipeline to elected political leadership is flooded with talented women, so many that eventually no major party will be able to refuse support for a woman at the top of the ticket;
Resolved: to make sure that whatever the results of the general election, Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton’s political power is enhanced and her unprecedented dedication to her own commitments is recognized both within the Democratic Party and across America.
Resolved: to use the skills and connections forged this season, including the fundraising skills, to support the aforementioned goals.”
GO, HEIDI LI, GO!!!!!!!!
EVERYONE ELSE, GO READ THE REST OF hEIDI lI’S PIECE!
******************
… AND FREDDIE…. YOU NEVER FAIL TO AMAZE ME!!
BillieJo 11.03.08 at 2:49 pm
I can’t post at HuffPo…..keeps ‘loading’
NewOrleansPuma 11.03.08 at 2:49 pm
Rush is talking about the former Hillary Clinton supporters…
who do not forget…No, we don’t Rush, but do not make any mistake, I do not forget what you did re Hillary as well..!
Pookie 11.03.08 at 2:49 pm
I just saw on Fox news that Bobarf is ahead as much as I hate it some of these posts that have McCain ahead don’t match what is being shown on TV
diva2 11.03.08 at 2:50 pm
Affidavit over at Berg’s site on nobo, et al.
Intersting info at Berg’s obamacrimes.com. an affidavit explaining nobo’s involvement with Codingo, how much money he gave to help Codingo, what the Kenyans say about nobo. If you have a minute and want to catch up on the lawsuit, good read. There is also a contirbution match. Phil Landis is giving a match of up to $450 on contributions.
snowtiger007 11.03.08 at 2:50 pm
BillieJo
You arent falling for that I hope.
McCain-PalinGuy 11.03.08 at 2:51 pm
Anna,
Not to be argumentative, but 4 points for Obama is not what I’d call a “comfortable lead”. And “overall lead” means what? It’s electoral votes that count. Just remember 2000, when Gore got a majority of the “overall” (national) vote.
You didn’t bust my bubble. And I know you don’t want to, either.
And this poll was takem before the coal issue was expressed this morning nationwide or at the same time, so the ramifications of the coal issue is probably not present in the poll. I think this is wonderful news.
freddiebrown 11.03.08 at 2:52 pm
I just donated to Denver Group but I am not sure that more money or ads would change any more minds.
I am afraid it is hand to hand combat from now on. Talk, send emails..etc to everyone..Below is Anna 7000’s letter that I used – it is brilliant – don’t hold back. I am sending straight from my regular email. :
I am writing to you because of the profound concern and urgency I feel regarding our upcoming Presidential election. I write knowing I am taking the risk of alienating those who I have had business or personal relationships with for a short time in some cases, for many many years in others. But, I am taking that risk because I feel the stakes are so high and the dangers are so great.
As many of you know, I was supporting Hillary Clinton during the primaries. Being actively involved in the political process, I came to learn first hand about many things that might not be readily known if one were not so integrally involved. In sum, the end result of the Democratic primary process was a sham and a horrid degradation of democratic processes. For anyone, irrespective of who they did or do support, who might have wondered how Clinton won more primaries than any other candidate in history yet lost 13 out of 14 of the caucuses, I would urge you to visit http://www.lynettelong.com/CAUCUSFRAUD/ to learn about the travesty that occurred during the caucuses.
However, this is far and beyond the means by which Senator Obama came to be the Democratic Party’s nominee. There are numerous issues surrounding him and his background that the media have simply failed to vet and which should give anyone pause.
Barack Obama has aligned himself with a cast of characters that includes hate mongers, anti-Semites, convicted felons and former terrorists. This is not rumor. These are the facts. He repeatedly minimizes these relationships or simply lies about them, changing his story as is politically convenient. His relationship with Reverend Wright and his church is one of many examples. First he attended church religiously every Sunday, then he only went sometimes because it was hard to sit in the pews with squirming children. Then he did not hear what Wright preached. Then, he heard it but did not agree with it.
This is a church that honored Louis Farrakhan of the The Nation of Islam with a Lifetime Achievement award. Surely there are thousands and thousands of black men and women who would be worthy of such an award. To honor Farrakhan, a man who thought Hitler was a great man, speaks volumes.
Obama says he is a friend to Israel, yet embraced the anti-Semitic rants of Reverend Wright for 20 years. If Clinton or McCain attempted such a ruse, they would have been blasted and out of the race before they could get to first base.
He favors transparency in government, yet we have yet to see his birth certificate, records from Occidental College, Columbia College, Harvard University, Selective Service registration, Medical Records, Illinois State Senate schedule, Harvard Law Review or University of Chicago articles.
He wants to spread the wealth around, yet records show that he donated less than 1% of his income to charity between 2002 and 2006. During the past two years his donations increased slightly, just in the knick of time as he started his Presidential bid. Whether you like or dislike Sarah Palin, you may be interested to learn that she and her husband donated more money to charity than both Obama and Biden combined over the past many years.
Meanwhile, his definition of “middle class” has continued to drift such that his promise of who will be protected from increased taxes becomes an ever shrinking group. This link highlights the dramatic and steady shifts he’s made in recent days: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-SavgJlBLA. For those not interested in viewing the video, or if it has been scrubbed by the time you click on it, in sum, Obama has gone from promising a tax cut to those earning under $250,000/year to under $200,000/year to $150,000/year and if you listen to Bill Richardson (who the Obama campaign has now conveniently distanced themselves from after he made this announcement), $125,000/year. One can only wonder how much further it will drift down should he be elected.
Obama talks about equality and wanting to make our public schools better. Who wouldn’t want to do that? He is against school vouchers. Curiously, he sends his children to private school.
Obama talks of equal pay for equal work, yet pays his female staffers 78 cents on the dollar compared to his male staffers. Less than half of his top advisors are women. Conversely, John McCain pays his female staffers $1.04 on the dollar as compared to his male staffers and more than half of his top advisors are women.
Obama was in favor of public campaign financing, then he went back on his word and opted out. He was strongly against FISA, then voted for it. He was the only, I repeat only, Senator to vote against a bill that would ensure that babies born alive due to botched abortions not be left to die.
He suggests that his values include helping those in need, yet he ignored the plight of families living in uninhabitable housing in his state senate district. Adding insult to injury, he developed a financially beneficial relationship with Tony Rezko (now a convicted felon), the slumlord of those buildings.
He used to speak of uniting Americans, now he urges his supporters to argue and get in people’s faces while calling those who do not support him, racists.
When asked tough questions by the media (a rare occurrence), he blasts them for doing so. Apparently, it is not acceptable to press him on matters of concern. Most recently, he booted off three reporters from the same three newspapers that endorsed McCain, from his campaign plane. Naturally, he gave an excuse for why.
He enlisted the power of the state in Missouri, including prosecutors and Sheriffs, to go after those who might dare to speak out against him with what he deemed to be lies. The power of the state was also recently brought to bear against the man now commonly known as “Joe the Plumber.” Curiously, the head of the Ohio Job and Family Services Dept who authorized the investigation which was based on nothing other than the fact that Joe was thrust into the public eye, is an Obama supporter who donated the maximum to his campaign this year. The ACLU has been strangely silent on these issues. It appears they need to adjust their mission statement. The media has seemed to care not a wit and neither, it would seem, do millions of Americans. However, we should all take heed, for when the state goes after someone like Joe without cause, we all know who is next.
As an Illinois state senator, he voted present an unprecedented 190 times, unable or unwilling to take a stand on important legislation. As a US Senator, he has worked a total of 143 days, campaigning for the remainder of his term. He has no record of legislative achievement.
However, there is one point where I agree with Mr. Obama: When asked whether he would run for President after he won his US Senate seat, Barack Obama said he would not, citing the thing we all know to be true: Lack of experience. Michelle Obama was also asked if her husband should run for President. She said, “No. He hasn’t done anything yet!” Mr. Obama should have taken his own advice and that of his wife’s, but here again, he went back on his word to the American people.
This election year it’s down to the basics. Can we truly afford to have a neophyte with a history of dubious relationships and a dangerous view of national security to be elected to the highest office in the land? Should our next Commander-in-Chief be someone who couldn’t pass national security clearance? Is it wise to elect someone to be President of the United States who has not remained in any position long enough to serve anyone or any thing other than his own ambitions?
Obama does not lead by example. There is no track record of achievement. He has a trail of relationships that should cause anyone to wonder what his agenda truly is.
All we have are his words. And he doesn’t keep his word.
This is about the cult of personality and history has taught us the dangers in going down that road.
I’ve never voted for a Republican in my life, but this year I am voting for America, I am voting for John McCain.
I hope you will join me on Election Day.
DancesWithPumas 11.03.08 at 2:52 pm
BillieJo 11.03.08 at 2:49 pm
I can’t post at HuffPo…..keeps ‘loading’
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I had the same problem. Try again, and while it’s loading, go paint your kitchen. As soon as the paint is dry, the site will be up.
BrianH 11.03.08 at 2:52 pm
And here’s a commenter on Nibras’ site from a couple of days ago:
And here’s the article he’s responding to:
diva2 11.03.08 at 2:52 pm
#371 Feebie
I believe she will be offered a very good position, not sure what. Hillary and McCain are good friends in the Senate and have been since she first stepped foot onto the Senate floor. They have alot of respect for each other and I absolutely think John has a place for her. IMOP
Asian4Hillary 11.03.08 at 2:52 pm
freddiebrown 11.03.08 at 2:45 pm
Thank you for everything you do and still doing for our country. You’re one hell of a PUMA girl! ^5
SouthernGAL68 11.03.08 at 2:53 pm
*** ATTENTION ALL – My next door neighbor is a voting commissioner and also a big time McCain supporter. She told me that … *** Should anyone see ANY MONKEY BUSINESS, Call the local police OR the FBI (and do NOT leave the election site!)
She told me this as well – No one is allowed to wear CANDIDATE APPAREL into voting site.
** She told me that if you see any monkey business, THEY CAN NOT remove you from the election site.
My neighbor is 64 years old and has been doing this for many years, so if anyone has any questions, let me know and I will ask my neighbor for you!
Pookie 11.03.08 at 2:53 pm
RedStateGuy#362: That needs to go to the media or at least to the media that will read it
McCain-PalinGuy 11.03.08 at 2:53 pm
uh, Pookie, could you run that by us again?
TexasTigress 11.03.08 at 2:54 pm
NewOrleansPuma
Thank you .
I was so nervous that I don’t even know what I said , and my computer was down so I couldn’t read the chat – but Murphy and Sherri are amazing . I honestly believe Pumas are changing the course of history !
TerryDo 11.03.08 at 2:54 pm
alohapuma 11.03.08 at 2:28 pm
Now this would bring “Change we can believe in”
If Obama Loses, Who Gets Blamed?
His loss would be disastrous for the media and political establishment.
By John Dickerson
Posted Sunday, Nov. 2, 2008, at 9:21 PM ET
CLEVELAND—If Barack Obama wins the election, it will be historic. And if he loses, it will be pretty historic, too: It would mark the biggest collective error in the history of the media and political establishment.
http://www.slate.com/id/2203420/?GT1=38001
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CLEVELAND—If Barack Obama wins the election, it will be historic. And if he loses, it will be pretty historic, too: It would mark the biggest collective error in the history of the media and political establishment.
Barack ObamaAn Obama loss would mean the majority of pundits, reporters, and analysts were wrong. Pollsters would have to find a new line of work, since Obama has been ahead in all 159 polls taken in the last six weeks.
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WHEN BARACK OBAMA LOSES THE ELECTION, IT WILL MARK A HUGE
“DON’T MESS WITH THE AMERICAN PUBLIC”
DON’T TRY TO MANIPULATE THEIR THINKING PROCESS (i.e. HILLARY
STEP DOWN YOU HAVE ALREADY LOST)
DON’T TRY TO MANIPULATE THEIR POLLS (LIES, OBAMA IS LEADING IN ALL POLLS)
DON’T TRY TO BUY THE PRESIDENCY, IT BELONG TO THE CITIZERNY TO GIVE (VOTE) AWAY!
1gypsy4mc 11.03.08 at 2:55 pm
Director of Elections Each Candidate had to go through a Director of Elections in EACH State. According to the F.E.C., whoever “received” the qualifications for a Presidential candidate should be questioned! I know it’s too late probably, but at least I finally got an answer!!
sue66 11.03.08 at 2:55 pm
Dark day today so I can spend all day e-mailing friends and sending them as many PUMA links as I can find. Won’t give up until polls close tomorrow, even on my breaks I will send. This is too important not to give it every minute I can until tomorrow night.
Let’s make it count!
BillieJo 11.03.08 at 2:57 pm
DancesWithPumas
I finally got into HuffPo and hung on to your PUMA tail as NotYourCupcake.
gumbykat 11.03.08 at 2:58 pm
snowtiger007…
http://www.davidswanson.org/?q=node/1504
murphy 11.03.08 at 2:58 pm
texas — you were great!
pookie — turn off the TV you crazy pookie bear. You’re going to drive yourself KRAAAZY!
comments still needed — HuffPo has an open window for us all to climb in:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/christal-phillips/clinton-democrats-the-med_b_140493.html
yay Christal Phillips!
Anna7000 11.03.08 at 2:58 pm
McCain-Palin Guy – I appreciate your perspective. For me, when I see BO has double the electoral votes as MAC, I consider that appreciable. But, I hear your point and the coal issue not being captured is a great point. Thanks for posing a contradiction in such a gracious way. All much appreciated, especially while emotions are running high. Thanks!
Heidi – If you’re around – great piece today. And, donated $25, while also agreeing with Freddie that not sure in this 11th hour of 11th hour if more money or more ads will matter, but, what the hell. I figure, best to throw the book at it!
Freddie – Glad you could make use of my (overly long) letter.
NotFooled 11.03.08 at 2:58 pm
I’m not hearing the MSM discuss Obama’s donation fraud. This is a huge issue! Every bit as big as Ayres. This makes Watergate look like running a yellow light.
He’s conspired with his payment processor to disregard standard verification procedures. As long as someone has a valid credit card number, his site will accept any name, address, . McCain’s will not. People can be from any country, can donate with different names to skirt the maximum allowable donation, groups can purchase blocks of pre-paid cards to use for donations, and so on…
For crying out loud – he’s buying the presidency with terrorist funds! This is obscene!
Interesting comment from HotAir:
“Anyone can go to wikipedia and look up these two pages:
Luhn, List of Bank Identification Numbers
From those 2 sources, anyone with half a brain can figure out credit card numbers that could possibly be valid, then start plugging them in. I don’t know about exp date, in our system that has to match but then we programmed our system to require complete validation, but without AVS to verify, I can see how Obamabots can game the system.”
. From a WaPo article:
“The Obama team’s disclosures came in response to questions from The Washington Post about the case of Mary T. Biskup, a retired insurance manager from Manchester, Mo., who turned up on Obama’s FEC reports as having donated $174,800 to the campaign. Contributors are limited to giving $2,300 for the general election.
Biskup, who had scores of Obama contributions attributed to her, said in an interview that she never donated to the candidate. “That’s an error,” she said. Moreover, she added, her credit card was never billed for the donations, meaning someone appropriated her name and made the contributions with another card.
When asked whether the campaign takes steps to verify whether a donor’s name matches the name on the credit card used to make a payment, Obama’s campaign replied in an e-mail: “Name-matching is not a standard check conducted or made available in the credit card processing industry. We believe Visa and MasterCard do not even have the ability to do this.”
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In an interview on Iowa Public TV in 2007, Barack Obama advocated sending “price signals” to middle class consumers in order to “change their behavior.”
“Price signals” being an Orwellian code word for punitive taxes and fees. And Obama doesn’t seem to care much who it would hurt.
Also the smear: McCain gave funds to group co-founded by Khalidi .
“Unreported by the Huffington Post is that the CPRS, with which Khalidi was for a time moderately involved, is pro-Western and can be characterized as pro-Israel.
Its work has been condemned by the Palestinian leadership and by local terror groups as “Zionist propaganda.”
In contrast, the Khalidi organization Obama helped fund as a board member for a nonprofit, alongside domestic terrorist William Ayers, has taken a flagrantly anti-Israel line. Khalidi’s Arab American Action Network has hosted scores of Israel-bashing events, including at least one reportedly attended by Obama.”
Bill Ayres in his own words from
NewOrleansPuma 11.03.08 at 2:59 pm
Forget the polls…forget them. They have been skewed for 11 months.
TerryDo 11.03.08 at 2:59 pm
freddiebrown 11.03.08 at 2:42 pm
Heidi Li
Donation of $450 – done
I hope it helps and is on time.
Have been sending emails.
Confirmation number: 0GP79363HX458135V.
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freddiebrown, once again you are contributing to a good cause.
I am sure it will help and perhaps Heidi Li will come back to pumapac and confirm your donation…
diva2 11.03.08 at 2:59 pm
Fox news
All sorts of voter forms dumped all over the freeway in florida.
1gypsy4mc 11.03.08 at 3:00 pm
FOX NEWS Thousands of Voter Registrations found on a highway in FLORIDA!!!!
slyt2 11.03.08 at 3:00 pm
Ok time for general hospital be lurking and be back at 4. Keep up the great work Puma’s… Your all kicking ass today…..
NewOrleansPuma 11.03.08 at 3:01 pm
#388TexasTig: Oh I wish you could have seen the chat…I was talking to you all over the place …you wild one you!! Hi to Carrie…where is she? Is she moving here or not? Wrote her an email but haven’t heard anything yet.
1gypsy4mc 11.03.08 at 3:01 pm
SCATTERED ALL OVER!!
snowtiger007 11.03.08 at 3:01 pm
gumbykat
Thanks gumby, just sent it out, It will be viral in minutes
TexasTigress 11.03.08 at 3:02 pm
NOP – Carrie should be down the week after Thanksgiving (or really close to then )
BillieJo 11.03.08 at 3:02 pm
HuffPo has my comment in moderation…..gack!
Notyoursweetie 11.03.08 at 3:03 pm
The lanslide prediction for McCain updated: bigger landslide
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/11/03/how-many-pumas-mccain-bigger-landslide/
NewOrleansPuma 11.03.08 at 3:03 pm
I would be no where near Chicago lakefront tomorrow night or anywhere near Chicago…whether he wins or not, 1,000,000 people is not a good thing in one place given this election cycle…It sure ain’t a Mardi Gras crowd and the Chicago Police …are not of the Mardi Gras mind either!
BillieJo 11.03.08 at 3:03 pm
diva2 11.03.08 at 2:59 pm
Fox news
All sorts of voter forms dumped all over the freeway in florida.
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I hope they are all ACORNs……
RedStateGuy 11.03.08 at 3:03 pm
367 Anna7000
That’s a quote I’d forward to Fox and post on blogs!
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I’m doing just that…
diva2 11.03.08 at 3:03 pm
#390 1gypsymc
It is not too late… The action has just begun! Berg’s lawsuit is not going to be heard until after the election. No one is sworn in until January. McCain is going to win, so it will just be advisable to stay away from all high bot areas.
storytellers 11.03.08 at 3:04 pm
#377 diva
i can not get into berg´s site¡¡¡
can you please give the link
thank you
NotFooled 11.03.08 at 3:05 pm
I’m not hearing the MSM discuss Obama’s donation fraud. This is a huge issue! Every bit as big as Ayres. This makes Watergate look like running a yellow light.
He’s conspired with his payment processor to disregard standard verification procedures. As long as someone has a valid credit card number, his site will accept any name, address, . McCain’s will not. People can be from any country, can donate with different names to skirt the maximum allowable donation, groups can purchase blocks of pre-paid cards to use for donations, and so on…
For crying out loud – he’s buying the presidency with terrorist funds! This is obscene!
title=”Credit-card experts explain the extent of Obama’s deception”>
Interesting comment from HotAir:
“Anyone can go to wikipedia and look up these two pages:
Luhn, List of Bank Identification Numbers
From those 2 sources, anyone with half a brain can figure out credit card numbers that could possibly be valid, then start plugging them in. I don’t know about exp date, in our system that has to match but then we programmed our system to require complete validation, but without AVS to verify, I can see how Obamabots can game the system.”
title=”Obama Accepting Untraceable Donations”>. From the WaPo article:
“The Obama team’s disclosures came in response to questions from The Washington Post about the case of Mary T. Biskup, a retired insurance manager from Manchester, Mo., who turned up on Obama’s FEC reports as having donated $174,800 to the campaign. Contributors are limited to giving $2,300 for the general election.
Biskup, who had scores of Obama contributions attributed to her, said in an interview that she never donated to the candidate. “That’s an error,” she said. Moreover, she added, her credit card was never billed for the donations, meaning someone appropriated her name and made the contributions with another card.
When asked whether the campaign takes steps to verify whether a donor’s name matches the name on the credit card used to make a payment, Obama’s campaign replied in an e-mail: “Name-matching is not a standard check conducted or made available in the credit card processing industry. We believe Visa and MasterCard do not even have the ability to do this.”
title=”Obama Wants ‘Price Signals’ to ‘Change Behavior’”>.
In an interview on Iowa Public TV in 2007, Barack Obama advocated sending “price signals” to middle class consumers in order to “change their behavior.”
“Price signals” being an Orwellian code word for punitive taxes and fees. And Obama doesn’t seem to care much who it would hurt.
Also the smear: McCain gave funds to group co-founded by Khalidi title=”McCain and Khalidi – Khalidi was distant in association and the org promoted democracy”>
“Unreported by the Huffington Post is that the CPRS, with which Khalidi was for a time moderately involved, is pro-Western and can be characterized as pro-Israel.
Its work has been condemned by the Palestinian leadership and by local terror groups as “Zionist propaganda.”
In contrast, the Khalidi organization Obama helped fund as a board member for a nonprofit, alongside domestic terrorist William Ayers, has taken a flagrantly anti-Israel line. Khalidi’s Arab American Action Network has hosted scores of Israel-bashing events, including at least one reportedly attended by Obama.”
Bill Ayres in his own words from title=”March, 2000 Interview”>
diva2 11.03.08 at 3:05 pm
#408 BillieJo
Sadly, they have all sorts of specific voter name, addresses, etc. on them. I hope they say if they are all Floridians so these people can check on their voting status before it is too late. Ladyhawkke, aren’t you in Florida?
kids1627 11.03.08 at 3:05 pm
I-4 Hillsboro county isn’t that Tampa
58states1 11.03.08 at 3:05 pm
Even if they can tune out names like Ayers and Rezko and Wright… do they know who people like Cecil Butler are? Kenny and Karen Smith? Does it BOTHER anyone that his projects and promises can go… nowhere?! Or to be more precise, the funds somehow never make it past his friends?
Case in point: Englewood botanical gardens:
http://blogs.suntimes.com/sweet/2008/09/obama_state_senate_grant_probe.html
http://www.npr.org/blogs/politics/2008/09/from_obama_a_garden_to_nowhere.html
How is it that Palin wardrobe and the flipping BRIDGE to nowhere are national news for eons and things like THIS (dubbed as “the garden to nowhere” and elsewhere “GARDENGATE”) barely sees the light of day?
When was the last time you heard this story– if you ever did?
—from NPR site (link above) —-
The Illinois attorney general is investigating the fate of a $100,000 grant that Barack Obama, then a state senator, awarded to a neighborhood group back in 2001. The money was meant to pay for a botanic garden in Englewood, a neighborhood of Chicago.
If you guessed by now that the garden never blossomed, you’re right. The Chicago Sun-Times broke the story this morning.
According to the Sun-Times, $65,000 from the grant went to the wife of the head of the Chicago Better Housing Association — a man who had volunteered on Obama’s unsuccessful House campaign in 2000. The paper says another $25,000 went to a construction firm set up by the man’s wife.
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Oh look. Funny that.
Love the responses too… Obama didn’t do anything wrong. This is unfair.
No, he just advocated for a project on behalf of his friends and didn’t hold them to their end of the deal. No biggie. Didn’t hurt his friends. I guess “those people” didn’t really NEED that garden, huh? This DEFINITELY makes him Presidential material.
People don’t find THIS problematic?!
—-from Chicago Sun Times link above—–
“”The garden was never built. And now state records obtained by the Sun-Times show $65,000 of the grant money went to the wife of Kenny B. Smith, the Obama 2000 congressional campaign volunteer who heads the Chicago Better Housing Association, which was in charge of the project for the blighted South Side neighborhood.
Smith wrote another $20,000 in grant-related checks to K.D. Contractors, a construction company that his wife, Karen D. Smith, created five months after work on the garden was supposed to have begun, records show. K.D. is no longer in business.”"
If you’re not familiar with this lovely case, read that again. Smith (who worked for Obama CAMPAIGN) got a job to build a garden. FIVE MONTHS after it was to have begun, he pays HIS WIFE… who has coincidentally JUST created a construction business– I mean what luck!! So… follow the money. People promised garden. Grant money given for garden for people. Obama and friends are middlemen. Money goes to friends. Records show little to nothing was spent. No garden.
Who wins? Who loses? And where do we think that “grant money” came from (taxpayers one can assume– one way or another). So… essentially taxpayers donated money to the “cause” of bettering the lives of folks who already HAVE money and clout. Go figure.
Take that national. Can you even IMAGINE what we’ll be asked to fund, what will be promised, and what will NEVER HAPPEN? And who’s going to win? If we think the answer is “US” we’re deluded.
DancesWithPumas 11.03.08 at 3:05 pm
BillieJo 11.03.08 at 2:57 pm
DancesWithPumas
I finally got into HuffPo and hung on to your PUMA tail as NotYourCupcake.
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Cool. Anything to help the cause.
Besides, I’m trying to gain weight anyway…
keep hanging there.
diva2 11.03.08 at 3:06 pm
#411 Storytellers
Go in under obamacrimes.com, leave off the www. You should get in that way.
SouthernGAL68 11.03.08 at 3:07 pm
Woooooo – JUST HEARD ON FOX THAT THE ALREADY VOTED IS …..
Obama -48
MaCain 47
McCain-PalinGuy 11.03.08 at 3:08 pm
Anna,
Yes, I see how looking at Obama’s electoral vote almost doubled over McCain can be dejecting, but when you see that Obama is leading so many of those states by only 2, 3, or 4 percentage votes (and knowing that poll responders are saying that they’ll vote for Obama to not appear “racist”), it’s looking bad for Obama and good for McCain. If 100 of Obama’s electoral vote lead is from states that are that close (and does not include the coal issue fiasco), I’d say it might be time to think about what brand of champagne you’ll be putting on ice in about 24 hours from now.
McCain/Palin is going to win! Cheer up, all!
DancesWithPumas 11.03.08 at 3:09 pm
BillieJo 11.03.08 at 3:03 pm
diva2 11.03.08 at 2:59 pm
Fox news
All sorts of voter forms dumped all over the freeway in florida.
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Ugh… please let this nighmare be over soon.
1gypsy4mc 11.03.08 at 3:09 pm
snowtiger007 what are you making viral? I’ve been on the phone, etc. Thanks!! I’ll help!
mick 11.03.08 at 3:09 pm
Here’s the David Swanson quote that RedStateGuy posted.
http://www.davidswanson.org/?q=node/1504
kevink 11.03.08 at 3:11 pm
Axelrod astroturfing a Florida highway with fake registrations in order to claim voter suppression? Wouldn’t put it past him
diva2 11.03.08 at 3:12 pm
POLLS
We KNOW as a matter-of-fact that polls don’t mean squat. We saw that with Hillary’s wins and the lying polls. The ONLY truth is the final vote. Of course, we know even that isn’t true as voter fraud is hard to calculate in, which is rampant everywhere.
freddiebrown 11.03.08 at 3:13 pm
Anna 7000 – I got a few replies…
One from somone I know through business, who is anti Obama. She replied and will send me her email data base.
One is a customer in CT who said she might not order from us again after that email. I might just do her a favour and not sell to her. I don’t do well with threats.
An AA guy just called too.. How awful! Really ? It was against Obama ? No way ! I gave a story about my email address being hijacked and used for spam.
snowtiger007 11.03.08 at 3:13 pm
1gypsy4mc
“If your television declares John McCain the president elect on the evening of November 4th, your television will be lying. You should immediately pick up your pre-packed bags and head straight to the White House in Washington, DC, which we will surround and shut down until this attempt at a third illegitimate presidency is reversed. We may be there for days or weeks or months. But we must be there. We must be there by the millions. We must show each other, and the nation, and the world that we have had enough, that we will not stand for one more stolen election, that we will not give in to fear, lies, theft, and intimidation.” –David Swanson, Washington director of Democrats.com and a board member of Progressive Democrats of America
http://www.davidswanson.org/?q=node/1504
There you go gypsy. Unn believable the BS this year,
NotFooled 11.03.08 at 3:14 pm
Sorry for the mangled HTML in post #413- maybe the moderator could remove that version…? (too bad there’s not a preview and edit feature)
I’m not hearing the MSM discuss Obama’s donation fraud. This is a huge issue! Every bit as big as Ayres. This makes Watergate look like running a yellow light.
He’s conspired with his payment processor to disregard standard verification procedures. As long as someone has a valid credit card number, his site will accept any name, address, . McCain’s will not. People can be from any country, can donate with different names to skirt the maximum allowable donation, groups can purchase blocks of pre-paid cards to use for donations, and so on…
For crying out loud – he’s buying the presidency with terrorist funds! This is obscene!
Credit-card experts explain the extent of Obama’s deception:
http://hotair.com/archives/2008/10/29/credit-card-experts-explain-the-extent-of-obamas-deception/
Interesting comment from HotAir:
“Anyone can go to wikipedia and look up these two pages:
Luhn, List of Bank Identification Numbers
From those 2 sources, anyone with half a brain can figure out credit card numbers that could possibly be valid, then start plugging them in. I don’t know about exp date, in our system that has to match but then we programmed our system to require complete validation, but without AVS to verify, I can see how Obamabots can game the system.”
Obama Accepting Untraceable Donations:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/28/AR2008102803413_pf.html
From a WaPo article:
“The Obama team’s disclosures came in response to questions from The Washington Post about the case of Mary T. Biskup, a retired insurance manager from Manchester, Mo., who turned up on Obama’s FEC reports as having donated $174,800 to the campaign. Contributors are limited to giving $2,300 for the general election.
Biskup, who had scores of Obama contributions attributed to her, said in an interview that she never donated to the candidate. “That’s an error,” she said. Moreover, she added, her credit card was never billed for the donations, meaning someone appropriated her name and made the contributions with another card.
When asked whether the campaign takes steps to verify whether a donor’s name matches the name on the credit card used to make a payment, Obama’s campaign replied in an e-mail: “Name-matching is not a standard check conducted or made available in the credit card processing industry. We believe Visa and MasterCard do not even have the ability to do this.”
Obama Wants ‘Price Signals’ to ‘Change Behavior:
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/31781_Obama_Wants_Price_Signals_to_Change_Behavior
In an interview on Iowa Public TV in 2007, Barack Obama advocated sending “price signals” to middle class consumers in order to “change their behavior.”
“Price signals” being an Orwellian code word for punitive taxes and fees. And Obama doesn’t seem to care much who it would hurt.
Also the smear: McCain gave funds to group co-founded by Khalidi – Khalidi was distant in association and the org promoted democracy:
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=79441
“Unreported by the Huffington Post is that the CPRS, with which Khalidi was for a time moderately involved, is pro-Western and can be characterized as pro-Israel.
Its work has been condemned by the Palestinian leadership and by local terror groups as “Zionist propaganda.”
In contrast, the Khalidi organization Obama helped fund as a board member for a nonprofit, alongside domestic terrorist William Ayers, has taken a flagrantly anti-Israel line. Khalidi’s Arab American Action Network has hosted scores of Israel-bashing events, including at least one reportedly attended by Obama.”
Bill Ayres in his own words from a March, 2000 Interview:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWY-vi7G7Dw
mick 11.03.08 at 3:14 pm
OMG that David Swanson dude is delusional.
bythelake 11.03.08 at 3:15 pm
Found posted on another blog;
Once upon a time, there was a young charismatic and
eloquent young
leader who decided his Nation needed a change
and that he was the one to
implement it. The people were receptive and ready for a
change.
He spoke passionately when denouncing the existing system
and the
media loved him. Nobody questioned what he believed in or
who his friends
were. He would help the poor and bring free medical care
and education to
all. He would bring justice and equality. He
said: I am for hope and change
and I will bring you both.
Nobody bothered to ask about the change, so by the time
the
executioners’ guns went silent; all personal firearms had
been confiscated.
When everyone was finally equal, they were equally poor,
hungry and
miserable. Their free education was worthless.
When the change was
fully implemented, the country had been reduced to a Third
World status.
More than a million people fled in small boats and rafts.
The charismatic young leader was Fidel Castro; the nation,
Cuba .
The citizens of the United States would never fall for a
charismatic,
eloquent young leader who promises hope and change
without asking,
‘What change, and how much will it cost us? Would we?
During this election year let’s be reminded of these
words:
* You cannot help the poor, by destroying the rich.
* You cannot strengthen the weak, by weakening the strong
* You cannot bring about prosperity, by discouraging
thrift.
* You cannot lift the wage earner up, by pulling the wage
payer down.
* You cannot further the brotherhood of man, by inciting
class hatred.
* You cannot build character and courage, by taking away
men’s
initiative and independence.
* You cannot help men permanently, by doing for them what
they could
and should, do for themselves.
Do you recognize the author?
It was Abraham Lincoln . Very, very wise words, written
years ago and
we still don’t seem to get it.
antifish 11.03.08 at 3:15 pm
Do not let the polls get you down! They are polling more Democrats than anything else. This is from Rasmussen (posted Saturday) admitting as much: BREATHE!!!
This week, for the first time in any week since mid-September, the partisan identification trends drifted slightly in the Republican direction. However, the electorate is still a bit more Democratic than it was in mid-September and quite a bit more Democratic than it was during Election 2004. When President Bush was re-elected, the number of Republicans and Democrats in the nation were essentially even.
For polling data released during the final days of Election 2008, the partisan weighting targets will be 39.9% Democratic, 33.4% Republican, and 26.7% unaffiliated. For the preceding week, the partisan weighting targets were 40.0% Democratic, 32.8% Republican, and 27.2% unaffiliated.
In mid-September, the last weighting targets established before the financial crunch became visible on Wall Street, the targets were 38.7% Democratic, 33.6% Republican, and 27.7% unaffiliated. Since that time, the number of Democrats has increased by 1.2 percentage points and the number of Republicans has declined by 0.2 percentage points for a net swing of 1.4 percentage points.
******
I would wager that the last paragraph addresses the illusive “undecided voter”. Those folks were for McCain then, they will be for McCain tomorrow.
gordana 11.03.08 at 3:15 pm
I just noticed that the FU**ER struts with that arrogant posture just like Farrakahn. A good one to imitate!
cosmo 11.03.08 at 3:17 pm
pumas
you are a wonderful bunch and when you start feeling a little bluesy go to the aol.com straw poll and look at it. just sit and look at it. all that beautiful, beautiful red.
i agree with others, the polls are skewed.
Woodie 11.03.08 at 3:18 pm
This is what Obama did not du for his constituents while he was in cahoots with Razko. That’s guy that is being sentenced soon and is apparently going to sing to the FBI…..HA! your dead meat Obama!!!
http://wthrockmorton.com/2008/10/31/obamas-housing-record-part-five-view-from-a-constituent-beauty-turner/
Poor tenant with no heat, the ones he was supposed to help but he actually got the money and ran….what character!!!!
KYkitten 11.03.08 at 3:18 pm
LOL that david swanson guy worked for ACORN
Anna7000 11.03.08 at 3:19 pm
MC CAIN PHONE CALLS TO SWING STATES – EXTRA TIP:
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Since the economy looms so huge in most voters minds, stress:
1. MAC wants to keep taxes low, low, low so working Americans can keep more of their hard-earned dollars.
2. Obama not only wants to raise taxes, but the threshold/cut off keeps changing and is getting lower by the day. Ex: Dropped from 250,000/yr to 200,000/yr to 150,000/yr and per Bill Richardson, is down to 120,000/yr.
3. With MAC, what you see is what you get. Whether you agree completely or partly, you can trust his word. With Obama, there’s no way to know where he stands because 1) he keeps changing his view, and 2) we’ve only seen a 2-dimensional, brand name on the campaign trail, but once in office, we’ll get the whole 3-D person, which, in O’s case is someone we don’t really know and, from what we do know, we cannot trust.
4. MAC was a leader in forewarning of impending problems w/Fannie and Freddie back in 2005, but the Dems in Congress wanted to hear nothing of it, insisting all was fine. But, turns out, MAC was right on target.
5. MAC hs a plan to encourage business, which fuels the economy and puts people to work. O’s plan will harm business, which will force business to either 1) lay people off, 2) cut salaries and benefits, and/or 3) pass increased costs along to the consumer which is an indirect way your taxes increase.
snowtiger007 11.03.08 at 3:19 pm
mick
No mick. he is dangerous.
1gypsy4mc 11.03.08 at 3:21 pm
snowtiger My bp is probably so high now that I won’t make it through the elections!!
Lord, after all the ACORN fraud, Fraud Ballots, lost registrations on the highway, Voter Fraud, etc. Isn’t this a piece of crap!!!
mick 11.03.08 at 3:25 pm
Snowtiger & Gypsy
Where the hell is David Swanson getting that crap about Mac and Palin from? Yeah, I know, I know, from other kool-aid drinkers. His reality is some scary shit.
TexasTigress 11.03.08 at 3:26 pm
Another good link for Pumas who are e-mailing about Obama’s Anti- Israel ties . http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2008/05/six-degrees-of-barack-obama-updated.html
snowtiger007 11.03.08 at 3:26 pm
1gypsy4mc
Visualize a black ball of energy and put all your frustrations into it and then send it out to carpathia. Will help reduce the tensions.
ND yes this is amazing, If there was any doubt these thugs intend on destroying our country, they have now been dispelled.
Pookie 11.03.08 at 3:27 pm
McCain-PalinGuy#387: what did you want me to run by you again?
snowtiger007 11.03.08 at 3:28 pm
mick
When you think about how mind controlled the obots are it gets really scary.
I was talking to woman this week and she had already voted for Carpathia because, now get this, “We need someone with integrity in the white house.’
I gave up trying after that.
mick 11.03.08 at 3:29 pm
Hannity on his radio show is playing BO’s coal comment audio … he’s on a roll.
barbe 11.03.08 at 3:30 pm
Good afternoon all. My computer has been down for a while and I had to get a new hard drive. How confident does everyone feel that we can be sure Obama loses?
gostrumcat 11.03.08 at 3:32 pm
We don’t need no water, let it burn!
PUMAS, at this point we have helped our cause so much and I hope that regardless of outcome tomorrow (inevitable BO loss in my opinion)everyone will take a quick pause to be completely amazed and proud. I got my liberal partner, liberal dad and moderate brother to vote Mc Cain as well as two neighbors. I printed flyers weekly and hung them at the campus up the street from me and at two library branches. Everytime someone took them down, I hung more.
On this blog I’ve been able to learn so much about politics, computers,miscellaneous stuff, and life in general from people who do not fit in one category. You are all wonderful in your own ways and I am glad to have found this site. Karla4Hillary, I see you occasionally but you were the one who convinced me to come here from the HRC site and I owe you a huge debt of gratitude.
I have just started my winter work schedule, which is a partial layoff working just Friday, Saturday and Sunday. That means I will be able to treat tomorrow as a holiday and see the whole thing from start to finish. I have 6 little brown bottles in the refrigerator to celebrate with, though if I have more than 2 we’re all in trouble. Someone quoted Samuel Adams the other day and as it is a BOSTON lager, I felt it was an appropriate nod to Murphy to choose Sam as my beverage of choice for this occasion.
Finally, I hope everyone stays around after tomorrow. I’m up for whatever challenge we all take on to make our Democratic Party better, and to help create a political environment where working across the aisle is more of the norm. Sorry for the lengthy post,you are all amazing people and I’m honored to be among you.
snowtiger007 11.03.08 at 3:32 pm
BBL I have to go get some more wok done… and pick up extra ammo.
mick 11.03.08 at 3:32 pm
Snowtiger #443
It’s really surreal isn’t it … I feel like I’m living in the Twilight Zone when I talk to the Obots.
marie 11.03.08 at 3:32 pm
http://hillbuzz.wordpress.com/2008/11/02/only-938161-pumas-needed-in-key-states-for-mccainpalin-to-win-you-betcha/
Only 938,161 PUMAs needed in key states for McCain/Palin to win. You betcha!
http://hillbuzz.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/pumasneeded.jpg
Here’s a table MarstonChronicles ran breaking down just how many PUMAs are needed to tip the race in each of these states — out of Clinton’s 18 million votes during the primaries, just this many Democrats putting what’s best for the country above the party will save America from the closest brush with socialism it’s ever had.
Notyoursweetie 11.03.08 at 3:33 pm
I found the unifying thread in all recent Obama revelations: don’t worry about sharing your wealth, you won’t have any to share
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/11/03/all-latest-obama-revelations-in-one-single-idea/
Ex-DemInVA 11.03.08 at 3:33 pm
Good afternoon PUMAs. Well, this is it. Great post Murphy. I also like post 159
murphy 11.03.08 at 12:26 pm. What a great testament to PUMAs. We are working together, Dems, Repubs, and Indes to defeat Obama. We have also found some common ground.
Here is a good article on why the polls are worthless. Enjoy!
Why The Polls Are Crap – A Statistics Lesson In Balls And Urns
by BK October 28, 2008
Iowahawk has the the most succinct post on why the polls are meaningless – with basic stat 101 math and logical observations of human behavior to back it up.
The Question
Statisticians love balls and urns. A typical Stats 101 midterm, for example, usually includes a question along these lines:
You take a simple random sample of 1000 balls from an urn containing 120,000,000 red and blue balls, and your sample shows 450 red balls and 550 blue balls. Construct a 95% confidence interval for the true proportion of blue balls in the urn.
The Math
This part I won’t quote, because unless you are into statistics and probability formulas, your eyes will glaze over. However the important variable is the margin of error.
The Margin of Error
Here is where it gets interesting. People are not blue and red balls that never change their color in a static urn. We move around, interact, and lie for all sorts of reasons.
…political pollsters compute the mysterious “margin of error,” which has everything to do (and only to do) with pure mathematical sampling error [...]
Margin of Error = 1 / sqrt(n)
So if the sample size is 400, the margin of error is 1/20 = 5%; if the sample size is 625 the margin of error is 1/25 = 4%; if the sample size is 1000, it’s about 3%.
Works pretty well if you’re interested in hypothetical colored balls in hypothetical giant urns, or survival rates of plants in a controlled experiment, or defects in a batch of factory products. It may even work well if you’re interested in blind cola taste tests. But what if the thing you are studying doesn’t quite fit the balls & urns template?
* What if 40% of the balls have personally chosen to live in an urn that you legally can’t stick your hand into?
* What if 50% of the balls who live in the legal urn explicitly refuse to let you select them?
* What if the balls inside the urn are constantly interacting and talking and arguing with each other, and can decide to change their color on a whim?
* What if you have to rely on the balls to report their own color, and some unknown number are probably lying to you?
* What if you’ve been hired to count balls by a company who has endorsed blue as their favorite color?
* What if you have outsourced the urn-ball counting to part-time temp balls, most of whom happen to be blue?
* What if the balls inside the urn are listening to you counting out there, and it affects whether they want to be counted, and/or which color they want to be?
If one or more of the above statements are true, then the formula for margin of error simplifies to
Margin of Error = Who the hell knows?
Because, in this case, so-called scientific “sampling error” is completely meaningless, because it is utterly overwhelmed by unmeasurable non-sampling error. Under these circumstances “margin of error” is a fantasy, a numeric fiction masquerading as a pseudo-scientific fact. If a poll reports it — even if it’s collected “scientifically” — the pollster is guilty of aggravated bullshit in the first degree.
The moral of this midterm for all would-be pollsters: if you are really interested in how many of us red and blue balls there are in this great big urn, sit back and relax until Tuesday, and let us show our true colors.
http://bitterknitter.com/polls-are-crap-statistics-101-balls-and-urns
hillstheone 11.03.08 at 3:33 pm
mountainsong 11.03.08 at 12:01 am
“I think Rachel Maddow and Keith Olbermann are brother and sister……..and boyfriend/girlfriend. But which one is the boy?”
Lol on my lunchbreak I’ll try not to spit out my salad, mountainsong!
Illinois Indy Woman 11.03.08 at 3:34 pm
Posted on The Drudge Report…Obama Congratulates McCain by giving him the finger!!! He did the same thing to Hillary…What a jerk!!!
IndyBoomer 11.03.08 at 3:34 pm
Greetings, PUMAs!
Had yet another dream over the weekend visualizing Mac taking the oath of office, and the November 5th posts on this blog reading:
WE DID IT!! WE DID IT!! WE DID IT!!
Think positive, practice visualization of this, do affirmations, cross your fingers and toes, meditate, pray, channel energy or use your favorite vehicle for sending the power to the voters…. so MacPalin will defeat Obama and send him down the path of paying his mounting karmic debt starting tomorrow!!!
Sorry this sounds disjointed; couldn’t sleep last night, so my mental capacity is slightly reduced…anyway, you get my point! We will overcome!
mick 11.03.08 at 3:34 pm
bbl
gotta pick up my lil peanut.
BillieJo 11.03.08 at 3:34 pm
I was trying to find a way to get to coal miner unions, found their union and this is posted on it:
UMWA-
UMWA in Action
Primary links
*
Who we are Where We Work
o Underground Coal Mining
o Surface Coal Mining
o Manufacturing
o Healthcare
o Public Service
*
UMWA in Your Community
o UMWA Career Centers
o UMWA Community Expenditures
*
UMWA Organizing
o Your Rights at Work
*
Collective Bargaining
*
Health and Safety on the Job
o Black Lung
o Jim Walters Resources #5 Mine Disaster
o Sago Mine Disaster
*
UMWA Health and Retirement Funds
o A History of the Funds
o The Coal Act
*
UMWA Leadership
*
UMWA Offices
*
UMWA History
o John L. Lewis
o Mary Harris ‘Mother’ Jones
o Ludlow
o Matewan
o Lattimer Massacre
o CIO
McCain campaign’s last minute distortion of Obama’s coal record an act of desperation
date:
November 3, 2008
For immediate release?:
United Mine Workers of America (UMWA) International President Cecil E. Roberts issued the following statement today:
“Sen. John McCain and his running mate, Gov. Sarah Palin, have once again demonstrated that they are willing to say anything and do anything to win this election. Their latest twisting of the truth is about coal and some comments Sen. Obama made last January about the future use of coal in America.
“Here is what the McCain campaign left out of Sen. Obama’s actual words: ‘But this notion of no coal, I think, is an illusion. Because the fact of the matter is, is that right now we are getting a lot of our energy from coal. And China is building a coal-powered plant once a week. So what we have to do then is figure out how can we use coal without emitting greenhouse gases and carbon. And how can we sequester that carbon and capture it.’
http://www.umwa.org/index.php?q=news/mccain-campaign%E2%80%99s-last-minute-distortion-obama%E2%80%99s-coal-record-act-desperation
GoPumaGo 11.03.08 at 3:34 pm
GREAT GOOD NEWS at Texas Darling
New Marston Prediction: McCain by 52 Electoral Votes
November 3, 2008 by texasdarlin
The P.U.M.A. Factor.
Paul Marston, an elections expert, is staking his 45-year reputation on a public prediction that McCain-Palin will win, based on an analysis that assumes the major pollsters are ignoring the PUMA Factor.
At 2pm ET Monday, Paul Marston made his latest prediction:
Ohio, Virginia, Nevada, and Pennsylvania have edged back up slightly, but are still below the average from two days ago. North Carolina is now a tie and RCP now shows it for McCain-Palin on the no toss up map. The big news is that Florida has come down drastically from 4.2 to 2.5 and is bound to go for McCain-Palin. The stunning news is that Minnesota is coming on like gangbusters. The kind of movement would indicate that Minnesota is quite likely to go for McCain. I will up my prediction from a 42 to a 52 electoral votes margin pending further data.
Marston’s blog is fascinating. Read it all at Marston Chronicles.
tatepuma 11.03.08 at 3:35 pm
Because there is talk about polls, sending this email from NBRA that relates to the subject–it is a bit long —sorry for that!
VOTERS, NOT POLLS, DECIDE WHO WILL BE PRESIDENT
11/02 IBD Poll Tightens: OBAMA 46.7% MCCAIN 44.6% NOT SURE 8.7%
Contrary to the widely fluctuating polls that are apparently skewed in favor of Obama, a more reliable daily tracking poll by Investor’s Business Daily/TIPP Daily shows that the race tightened again Sunday, November 2nd. The IBD/TIPP poll shows that independents who’d been leaning to Obama shifted to McCain to leave that key group a toss-up. McCain also pulled even in the Midwest, moved back into the lead with men, padded his gains among Protestants and Catholics, and is favored for the first time by high school graduates.
For the details of the IBD/TIPP poll: OBAMA 46.7% MCCAIN 44.6% NOT SURE 8.7%; click here.
Signs Pointing To A McCain Victory By Steven M. Warshawsky is an article that demonstrates that despite there being an entire cottage industry devoted to exposing the liberal bias of the mainstream media, Republicans and conservatives continue to allow themselves to be unduly influenced, and even demoralized, by what they read and hear in the big city newspapers and on network television.
Pollsters Fool Americans with False Polling – Are the Polls Really Accurate? Below is an article by Alan Fram that explains how unscientific the polls really are and explains, in detail, how the polls are manipulated to favor one candidate over another.
Polls apart: Why polls vary on presidential race
By ALAN FRAM
WASHINGTON (AP) – Barack Obama is galloping away with the presidential race. Or maybe he has a modest lead. Or maybe he and John McCain are neck and neck.
Confusing? Sure, thanks to the dueling results of recent major polls.
In the past week, most surveys have shown Democrat Obama with a significant national lead over Republican McCain. Focusing on “likely voters” – as many polling organizations prefer this close to Election Day – an ABC News-Washington Post survey showed Obama leading by 11 percentage points. A Wall Street Journal-NBC News poll had the same margin, while the nonpartisan Pew Research Center gave Obama a 14-point edge.
But others had the race much closer. CNN-Opinion Research detected an Obama lead of 5 points. The George Washington University Battleground Poll had Obama up by 4 points. And an Associated Press-GfK poll showed Obama at 44 percent and McCain at 43 percent – in effect, a tie.
How can this be? Some questions and answers about why the polls differ.
Q: Don’t pollsters simply ask questions, tally the answers and report them?
A: No. After finishing their interviews – usually with about 1,000 people, sometimes more – they adjust the answers to make sure they reflect Census Bureau data on the population like gender, age, education and race. For example, if the proportion of women interviewed is smaller than their actual share of the country’s population, their answers are given more “weight” to balance that out. But some pollsters make these adjustments differently than others. And while most polling organizations including the AP do not modify the responses to reflect some recent tally of how many Democrats, Republicans and independents there are, some do.
Q: Are those the only changes made?
A: No. As Election Day nears, polling organizations like to narrow their samples to people who say they are registered voters. They often narrow them further to those they consider likely voters. That’s because in a country where barely more than half of eligible voters usually show up for presidential elections, pollsters want their polls to reflect the views of those likeliest to vote.
Q: Is that hard to do?
A: Quite hard, since no one will truly know who will vote on Election Day until that day is over. In fact, virtually every polling organization has its own way of determining who likely voters are.
Like many polling organizations, the AP asks several questions about how often people have voted in the past and how likely they are to vote this year, and those who score highest are considered likely voters.
Q: Why is this such a problem?
A: Because nobody is 100 percent sure how to do this properly. And the challenge is being compounded this year because many think Obama’s candidacy could spark higher turnout than usual from certain voters, including young voters and minorities. The question pollsters face is whether, and how, to adjust their tests for likely voters to reflect this.
In identifying likely voters, the AP does not build in an assumption of higher turnout by blacks or young voters. Pew Director Andrew Kohut says that reflecting exceptionally heavy African-American turnout in the Democratic primaries, Pew’s model of likely voters now shows blacks as 12 percent of voters, compared to 9 percent in 2004.
Underscoring the uncertainty, the Gallup Poll is using two versions of likely voters this year – a traditional one that asks about peoples’ past voting behavior and their current voting intentions; and an expanded one that only looks at how intent they are on voting this year, which would tend to include more new voters.
Q: What else might cause differences?
A: The groups pollsters randomly choose to interview are bound to differ from each other, and sometimes do significantly.
Every poll has a margin of sampling error, usually around 3 percentage points for 1,000 people. That means the results of a poll of 1,000 people should fall within 3 points of the results you would expect had the pollster instead interviewed the entire population of the U.S. But – and this is important – the results are expected to be that accurate only 95 percent of the time. That means that one time in 20, pollsters expect to interview a group whose views are not that close to the overall population’s views.
Q: Are the differences among polls this year that unusual?
A: Not wildly, but that doesn’t make them less noticeable. There’s a big difference between a race that’s tied in the AP poll, and Pew’s 14-point Obama lead. But because of each poll’s margin of error, those differences may be a bit less – or more – than meet the eye.
That’s because each poll’s margin of sampling error should really be applied to the support for each candidate, not the gap between them.
Take the AP poll, which has a margin of error of plus or minus 3.5 percentage points. Obama’s 44 percent support is likely between 48 percent and 40 percent. McCain’s 43 percent is probably between 47 percent and 39 percent.
When support for candidates is measured in ranges like that, some polls’ findings could overlap – or grow worse.
Q: Are people always willing to tell pollsters who they’re supporting for president?
A: No, and that’s another possible source of discrepancies. Some polling organizations gently prod people who initially say they’re undecided for a presidential preference, others do it more vigorously. The AP’s poll, for example, found 9 percent of likely voters were undecided, while the ABC-Post survey had 2 percent.
AP Director of Surveys Trevor Tompson and News Survey Specialist Dennis Junius contributed to this report
GoPumaGo 11.03.08 at 3:35 pm
http://www.marstonchronicles.info/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=94&Itemid=118
HERE IS THE FULL POLL RESULTS SHOWING MCCAIN WINNING.
BillieJo 11.03.08 at 3:35 pm
oops, more stuff than I intended to paste on #456
marie 11.03.08 at 3:37 pm
go PUMAS’S
http://hillbuzz.wordpress.com/2008/11/02/only-938161-pumas-needed-in-key-states-for-mccainpalin-to-win-you-betcha/
Only 938,161 PUMAs needed in key states for McCain/Palin to win. You betcha!
http://hillbuzz.files.wordpress.com/2008/11/pumasneeded.jpg
Here’s a table MarstonChronicles ran breaking down just how many PUMAs are needed to tip the race in each of these states — out of Clinton’s 18 million votes during the primaries, just this many Democrats putting what’s best for the country above the party will save America from the closest brush with socialism it’s ever had.
Ex-DemInVA 11.03.08 at 3:37 pm
Here is another good one on the poll biases. Look at the past elections. It goes back to 1976. The Democrats are always AHEAD in the polls, but come election day, their actual percentage drops dramatically.
What Is The Bradley Effect And How Presidential Polls Always Favor Democrats
by BK November 2, 2008
I have done a few posts on the crappy polling this season and the ignored impact of the Bradley Puma Effect.
Ann Coulter wrote a lengthy piece recently with loads of historical data.
With an African-American running for president this year, there has been a lot of chatter about the “Bradley effect,” allowing the media to wail about institutional racism in America.
Named after Tom Bradley, who lost his election for California governor in 1982 despite a substantial lead in the polls, the Bradley effect says that black candidates will poll much stronger than the actual election results.
First of all, if true, this is the opposite of racism: It is fear of being accused of racism. For most Americans, there is nothing more terrifying than the prospect of being called a racist. It’s scarier than flood or famine, terrorist attacks or flesh-eating bacteria. To some, it’s even scarier than “food insecurity.”
Political correctness has taught people to lie to pollsters rather than be forced to explain why they’re not voting for the African-American.
All you have to do is travel to any mixed economic Clinton leaning suburb in America and you can see the evidence first hand.
Where are the yard signs? How about dog walkers with silk screened slogan t-shirts and matching candidate buttons? I’ll bet you’ll see as many faded peeling Kerry/Edwards bumper stickers on older Volvo’s as sparkling new Obama/Biden ones.
If a VP candidate can be called racist with a straight face for simply wearing a white jacket to a political rally, no wonder so many telephones across America are on permanent caller ID. Who in their right mind would talk to a pollster in this charged climate?
Ann went and looked at the polling data before each presidential election since 1976 and compared it to the actual votes.
Reviewing the polls printed in The New York Times and The Washington Post in the last month of every presidential election since 1976, I found the polls were never wrong in a friendly way to Republicans. When the polls were wrong, which was often, they overestimated support for the Democrat, usually by about 6 to 10 points.
BUUUUURRRRNING HOT summarizes Ann’s findings.
1976
Jimmy Carter (D) vs Gerald Ford (R)
Poll predictions: Carter +15 over Ford
Election results: Carter +2.1 over Ford
Bias error: 12.9 points in favour of Democrats
1980
Jimmy Carter (D) vs Ronald Reagan (R)
Poll predictions: Carter +3 over Reagan
Election results: Reagan +10 over Carter
Bias error: 13 points in favour of Democrats
1984
Walter Mondale (D) vs Ronald Reagan (R)
Poll predictions: Reagan +4, +9 or +13 over Mondale
Election results: Reagan +18.8 over Mondale
Bias error: 14.8, 9.8 or 5.8 points in favour of Democrats
1988
Michael Dukakis (D) vs George H.W. Bush (R)
Poll predictions: Bush +5 over Dukakis
Election results: Bush +7.8 over Dukakis
Bias error: 2.8 points in favour of Democrats
1992
Bill Clinton (D) vs George H.W. Bush (R)
Poll predictions: Clinton +15 or +12 over Bush
Election results: Clinton +5.3 over Bush
Bias error: 9.7 or 6.7 points in favour of Democrats
1996
Bill Clinton (D) vs Bob Dole (R)
Poll predictions: Clinton +22 over Dole
Election results: Clinton +9 over Dole
Bias error: 13 points in favour of Democrats
2000
Al Gore (D) vs George W. Bush (R)
Poll predictions: Gore +6 over Bush
Election results: Bush over Gore by a slight margin
Bias error: 6 points in favour of Democrats
2004
John Kerry (D) vs George W. Bush (R)
Poll predictions: Bush +1 to +3 over Kerry
Election results: Bush +2.4 over Kerry
Bias error: 1.4 points in favour of Democrats to 1.6 points in favour of Republicans
2008
Barack Hussein Obama (D) vs John McCain (R)
Poll predictions: Obama over McCain, insert own imaginary number
Election results: Less than two weeks to go
Bias error: As always, in favour of Democrats
No one has a clue what the impact will be this season. The historical average of 10-12% Bradley Effect is compounded by the sheer numbers of active Pumas dead set on sending Obama packing.
The media continues to completely ignore the obvious and touts their poll results as loud as possible. However, screaming Obama has won already does not make it true.
The best barometer to the size of any Bradley/Puma Effect is to watch which states Obama stumps in these last few days. His internal polls are far more accurate than the pablum dished to us mere peons.
Going to Iowa does not scream Democratic Landslide.
http://bitterknitter.com/what-is-the-bradley-effect-and-how-presidential-polls-always-favor-democrats
Woodie 11.03.08 at 3:38 pm
I made a complaint to the our local FBI office that Obama needs to produce his US birth certificate to run as President of the United States. Arnold could not run for President he was told because he was born in Austria. If I get an unexpected visit, please come help me. j/k I hope….
goofsmom 11.03.08 at 3:38 pm
LA Times March Update
Sorry, I’ve been doing prowls and making phone calls.
1) Protest was pretty much a bust. Goofsdad was there till 11:00.
2) Good news is I’m sure we bugged the hell out of the LA Times and made sure they knew we weren’t going to slink away and leave them alone about the tapes.
I’m alittle down about the March but have to look at the bright side.
WE ARE WINNING.
The Coal story is getting alot of attention. All our efforts are paying off on showing who “O” is.
I’m off to get some chores done. Sorry to have bad news about the march. A little bummed.
Thank you to all the pumas who kept up the pressure on the times. (((Hugs)))
hillstheone 11.03.08 at 3:38 pm
hi snowtiger, any new news from the folks at your store & how they’re voting?
DancesWithPumas 11.03.08 at 3:38 pm
BillieJo
CA
http://www.ss.ca.gov/elections/elections.
htm http://www.sos.ca.gov/cgi-bin/print_form.cgi
Hon. Debra Bowen, Secretary of State
1500 11th Street Sacramento, CA 95814
(916) 653-7244 Fax (916) 653-4795
secretarybowen@sos.ca.gov Atty General:
Edmund G. “Jerry” Brown, Jr. (D)
(916) 445-9555 1300 I St., Ste. 1740, Sacramento, CA 95814
http://ag.ca.gov
Ex-DemInVA 11.03.08 at 3:43 pm
So far today, my husband made 25 calls to undecideds again in Virginia. They are breaking for McCain 3 to 1! He said that everyone he spoke to said MCCAIN right away! I think Mac is going to take VA!
On another note, it is supposed to rain buckets here in VA tomorrow. I hope it keeps the Obama supporters home. One can hope anyway.
Heidi Li 11.03.08 at 3:44 pm
Thanks to the tremendous generosity of a few last minute donors, The Denver Group will be running a second ad in Miami tomorrow (we had the funds to book one this morning and we just made the 3 pm deadline). This is in addition to the roughly 15 ads we have run in the past 3 or 4 days and the many others run in the past few weeks.
We appreciate the support from Murphy and her readers.
Ex-DemInVA 11.03.08 at 3:45 pm
wontbackdown 11.03.08 at 11:20 am
Someone who was a college professor called into Rush Limbaugh today and said the same thing. He said that the students are changing their minds and are going for McCain due to the socialism comments.
Rodham in Flag 11.03.08 at 3:45 pm
#333 ELY in LOS ANGELES – thank you for the translataion – computer has been down and now back again – much appreciated.
murphy 11.03.08 at 3:46 pm
greta needs help — ZILLIONS of people read Greta every day — any Puma link will be seen by thousands of citizens who may join us.
Comment and LINK at Greta Wire.
copy these links and paste one or all of them wherever you go:
http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2008/05/six-degrees-of-barack-obama-updated.html
http://wthrockmorton.com/2008/10/31/obamas-housing-record-part-five-view-from-a-constituent-beauty-turner/
http://www.pumapac.org
jallen0347 11.03.08 at 3:46 pm
#457 GoPumaGo 11.03.08 at 3:34 pm
Yhea then the November will be about OH, well I see thr PUMA PAC was a force to be reckoned with…. Well you know that cliche about “Never Under Estimate A Woman Scorned.” Well if you consider there are just about as many males supporting PUMA we really need to come up with a slogan that includes all of the PUMA’s….. Something like “Never Under Estimate The Will Of The People Who Are Damn Tired OF Government Corruption.”
58states1 11.03.08 at 3:47 pm
He needs to be hit harder on the Chicago corruption angle. He hardly “rose above” it.
I hadn’t even thought about this, but… US Atty Patrick Fitzgerald has spent some 7 years fighting against the Chicago machine corruption. This includes Obama’s buddy Rezko. This WSJ article raises some good questions– like would a President Obama continue this fight, being a man of transparent government and ethical reform?? Or would he repay a political debt per usual and pardon Rezko– one of the biggest felons of all. What about the IL gov, Blagojevich? What of the investigation itself?
And plain and simple… is this the kind of “reform” Washington needs?!?!!?!?
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122541378179586551.html?mod=special_page_campaign2008_mostpop
jallen0347 11.03.08 at 3:48 pm
#469 Ex-DemInVA 11.03.08 at 3:45 pm
Well I guess Obama should recieve a Thank-You for ensuring that they registered to vote….
BillieJo 11.03.08 at 3:50 pm
DancesWithPumas
Thanks, I found it and copied it for tomorrow.
Middle age female 11.03.08 at 3:50 pm
Murphy – have you received my e-mail?
Ex-DemInVA 11.03.08 at 3:51 pm
I have said this past week that Obama looks angry or dare I say bitter – more so than ever recently while on the campaign trail. McCain, on the other hand, looks relaxed and happy. The last time that Obama flicked the bird was at Hillary and it was after his loss in Texas, Ohio, and NH. Does this mean that Obama knows he is in for a loss tomorrow? Just wondering?
marie 11.03.08 at 3:54 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DygBj4Zw6No
Obama Gives Hillary The Finger
slyt2 11.03.08 at 3:55 pm
mick is it the one where he studders in the beginning (sorry that;s mean) can you send a link so I can click on it
1gypsy4mc 11.03.08 at 3:55 pm
OBAMA CAMPAIGN DIRECTOR IN NEVADA DIES AT 44
This is scarey – again!!
http://www.nypost.com/seven/11032008/news/politics/obama_campaign_director_in_nevada_dies_a_136633.htm
Ex-DemInVA 11.03.08 at 3:56 pm
MCCAIN-PALIN 309 OBAMA-BIDEN 229
http://www.marstonchronicles.info/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=95&Itemid=119
What I will bet my 45 year reputation on is that McCain-Palin will win by at least 80 electoral votes. That is because I am quite certain that McCain-Palin will carry the other nine states for a total of 309 electoral votes compared to 229 for Obama-Biden. In my first update today, I only added Minnesota to the group I thought McCain-Palin would carry. Looking at the trend in Colorado as opposed to the RCP average convinces me that it will go for McCain-Palin but only by a narrow margin. The same is true of Nevada. Here the Obama steam roller tactics in the Democratic Caucus produced enough PUMA voters to pull it off.
What will be interesting to see is how the pollsters and the media will react to this unbelievable upset. On the other hand, I think we all know what their reaction will be — America is a racist country. No matter what they say, the real reasons will be (1) The DNC and the Obama folks dumped all over Hillary Clinton and then did not ask her to take the second slot, (2) America is simply not ready for a President who is so far out of the mainstream of political thought, (3) that Obama’s constant playing of the race card cost him a lot of votes from people who did not like being called racists, (4) the media assuring the voters that Obama was a shoo-in because they are a stubborn lot and (5) Obama’s attitude that his election was preordained.
DancesWithPumas 11.03.08 at 3:58 pm
ASSOCIATED PRESS
Last updated: 11:42 am
November 3, 2008
“Posted: 11:42 am
November 3, 2008
“Terence Tolbert, the Nevada campaign director for Barack Obama’s presidential campaign and a former top aide to New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg, has died. He was 44.
A family spokesman says Tolbert died Sunday night in Las Vegas of a massive heart attack.
Tolbert was on leave from his job as the chief lobbyist for New York City’s public schools at the state capital in Albany to work for the Democratic presidential nominee.
He had previously worked as chief of staff to Democratic state Assemblyman Keith Wright and in other government posts.
Bloomberg, who has switched his registration from Democratic to Republican to independent, called Tolbert one of the most hardworking people in the world and also one of the most likable.”
http://www.nypost.com/seven/11032008/news/politics/obama_campaign_director_in_nevada_dies_a_136633.htm
Delle 11.03.08 at 3:59 pm
I am so grateful to you all for doing so much work and giving so much of your time and energy to this cause.
It is a good cause!
Let us all celebrate together on Wednesday!
Or cry together and figure out what to do next.
Either way – we will not give up.
Thanks so much!
Delle
Ex-DemInVA 11.03.08 at 4:02 pm
My college-age daughter has jumped into the action these past few days and has volunteered her time to work at the local GOP office for McCain/Palin near her college. She also handed out a lot of McCain signs at the college and students put the signs in their dorm windows. She also put up a lot of yard signs in the area. We’ve got the whole family working for McCain/Palin now. lol
marie 11.03.08 at 4:03 pm
McCain Camp Finds Some Hope in Philadelphia
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/03/us/politics/03penn.html?_r=2&ref=politics&oref=slogin&oref=slogin
antifish 11.03.08 at 4:04 pm
A judge has denied a motion by the NAACP to keep Virginia polls open late.
freddiebrown 11.03.08 at 4:04 pm
Goofmom – The LA Times protest is NOT A BUST. Nothing we do that is good and honorable is ever a bust. Success is never a guarantee in life…but we should always act like success is possible or we would never act at all and that would be the greatest failure.
We thank you and everyone for their dedication, in LA. It was a difficult but necessary thing that needed attention.
murphy 11.03.08 at 4:06 pm
oops — greta’s link.
d’oh!
http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2008/11/03/why-some-democratic-women/
Woodie 11.03.08 at 4:07 pm
Some people think that because they are registered as Democrats–that they must vote the democratic ticket!
this is a very good point you can vote who you think is best..
in other words, you are not restricted to the democratic nominee!!!
murphy 11.03.08 at 4:07 pm
middle-aged female — I’m not sure. Will you send it again please?
Pookie 11.03.08 at 4:08 pm
Glenn Beck: Obama Will ‘Bankrupt’ Coal Industry
Aye-yi-yi. Wake up, America! Wake up! You know what? I’ve never — I was thinking before I went on the air today I’ve never had so much audio of a candidate that should just destroy the candidate. Never. I mean, I don’t even — you know, you don’t need to say, well, no, I think that he doesn’t have a valid birth certificate. Just play the audio of him talking. And every time something comes out, you know, what was it? Last week, two weeks ago it was Joe the plumber. “Well, redistribution of wealth is a good thing.” No, it’s not. Then last week it was, “You know, they didn’t take the fundamental restraints that those crazy founding fathers put into the Constitution.” I mean, every week it’s something else. This week, let’s try a little coal action. Here are two cuts for you. Listen to the first one. Here’s Barack Obama.
OBAMA: Under my plan of a cap and trade system, electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket.
GLENN: Stop, stop. You notice he’s just like, you know, they’re necessarily going to skyrocket. But listen to what his explanation is because, “Oh, that’s taken out of context.” No, no. He talks about how it’s all going to work out in the end. Listen to this.
OBAMA: Regardless of what I say about whether coal is good or bad, because I’m capping greenhouse gases, coal power plants, you know, natural gas, you name it, whatever the plants were, whatever the industry was, they would have to retrofit their operations. That will cost money. They will pass that money on to consumers. You can already —
GLENN: Stop, stop, stop. So far I haven’t heard the bright spot for you, the consumer. Here we are in this economy and he wants electricity to skyrocket and all of these companies to retrofit their plants. Now, he predicted that crazy people like me would actually say — listen. Listen to the prophet Moses — I’m sorry, Obama, speak.
BillieJo 11.03.08 at 4:09 pm
Dang HuffPo, my post never came up and only 14 comments posted. Rats!
goofsmom 11.03.08 at 4:09 pm
(((freddiebrown)))
Thank you very much… I was just having a down moment. I’ll be better.
Woodie 11.03.08 at 4:11 pm
I wonder how many of us hillary voters have not voted yet.
I have read a lot of them are going to wait to the very last
minute just before they close….which actually will make the
wait longer before we here, if it was to be a land slide…
i did absentee and mine is already in….2 weeks ago…now
Ex-DemInVA 11.03.08 at 4:11 pm
antifish 11.03.08 at 4:04 pm
A judge has denied a motion by the NAACP to keep Virginia polls open late.
The Attorney General(R) and the Virgnia Governor (D) issued a joint statement last week to the NAACP that the state has complied with the law and that the state is prepared for the election tomorrow. I guess that they took it to court. It didn’t work though.
Pookie 11.03.08 at 4:14 pm
Woodie#494: I was wondering the same thing today.We have early voting in Indiana, but the legal day to vote has meaning to us.Our polls open at 6:AM and we plan on being there as close to that time as possible.
BrianH 11.03.08 at 4:14 pm
freddie;
The reason O? No! didn’t take his own and MO’s advice about not running till he had more achievements is that HE IS NOT HIS OWN MASTER. He is a cat’s paw for the Cloward-Piven-Alinsky-Ayers cabal. And they thought that the current state of play was an opportunity to take a shot at the Big Brass Ring — so they rushed their Presidential-Hand-Puppet-In-Training into action.
Big Mistake. It will turn out that their mis-calculation will result in massive defeat and the exposure of the whole snake pit. God works in mysterious ways …
TexasTigress 11.03.08 at 4:15 pm
Keep e-mailing , keep blogging ,keep posting,
KEEP FIGHTING !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
REMEMBER , “IT’S BETTER TO BURN OUT THAN TO FADE AWAY !!!!!”
michelina 11.03.08 at 4:17 pm
Hello PUMA’S:
I’m sure we’ll be moving upstairs soon:
But I had to SAY THIS: after watching the PA people standing in line to see McCAIN:.
PUMA’S: they’re BLAMING the GOP’S for all the info and TRUTH (which to BO supporters)—isn’t and giving them all the credit.
LOOK IN THE MIRROR’S PUMA’S, IT’S THE DEM’S——THE DEM’S, THE CLINTON DEM’S, THE HILLARY DEM’S, THE HILLARY SUPPORTERS:
PUMA BABES AND GUYS, IT’S MURPHY, IT RD, IT’S NOQUARTER, IT’S DRUDGE, IT’S HANNITY, IT’S BJ, AND ON AND ON AND ON
IT’S THE DEMS STUPID !!!!!!!!!!
LOVE YOU ((((((((((((PUMA’S)))))))))))))))
tennaseepuma 11.03.08 at 4:17 pm
Does anyone know why the Drudge Report stopped running their poll that had McCain winning by a very large margin,when I go there now most of there page seems to be about Obama? ANd they have posted all the Bozo polls………
ladyhawkke 11.03.08 at 4:18 pm
Pumas, I am really getting discouraged. I have been calling and am getting nothing but wrong numbers. Some I have left messages. I have yet to speak to one person today. I am calling Florida. However, this happened yesterday in PA. Anyone else having problems?
Woodie 11.03.08 at 4:18 pm
Obama thinks he was pretty slick brainwashing and scratching his face that we wouldn’t pick it up…what do they say you can fool some of the people some of the time but not all the people all of the time….
McCain-PalinGuy 11.03.08 at 4:19 pm
re: Ex-DemInVA 11.03.08 at 3:37 pm
Post # 462
Wow! That was some fascinating stuff, Ex-DemInVA!
I’m telling you folks, go get your champagne!
McCain/Palin are gonna win!!
Ex-DemInVA 11.03.08 at 4:19 pm
Talked with my brother-in-law in South Jersey today. He said that he is ready with my sister to go and vote for McCain tomorrow. They are staunch Democrats. He also said that the local Fox news said that the polls in NJ are off and that they think that it is going to be a lot closer in NJ than the polls are showing!!!!! I sure hope my home state goes for McCain/Palin. I think there is a good chance that South Jersey will go big for McCain.
jallen0347 11.03.08 at 4:20 pm
I have my ballot ready to drop off tomorrow…. Since we do vote by mail some people drop their’s aff a little early…. Obama has been pushing his supporters to vote early…. McCain has not, and the simple fact that the polls are so close leads me to think that the Obama votes are dwindling in return numbers, and McCain voters are either voting early or waiting for tomorrow and voting in mass numbers….
Woodie 11.03.08 at 4:21 pm
probably a lot of floridians decided to not answer the phone due to the fact that florida was such a fiasco last time around callers are probably hitting them pretty hard.
WE HAVE TO WIN AND BY A BIG MARGIN SO THERE IS NO QUESTION.
WIN WIN WIN!!!!! MCCAIN MCAIN MCAIN!!!!!
tennaseepuma 11.03.08 at 4:21 pm
Ladyhawkke,
I had the same problem the other day,I just chose to call a different state,I was calling Ca and changed to Nevada.
natkar76 11.03.08 at 4:23 pm
They were FIRED UP to see Sarah Palin in Missouri today!
It was the second largest crowd in Jefferson City history.
Prime Buzz reported:
We have a crowd estimate! The Highway Patrol is saying 17,000 to 18,000 — more than the Kerry-Edwards appearance here four years ago and probably second only to Mel Carnahan’s funeral in 2000.
I got this from http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/
The pictures they have up of this rally are just awesome!!!
Meanwhile, in Lee’s Summit, Missouri, outside of Kansas City 400 people showed up to see Democrat Joe Biden.
Ex-DemInVA 11.03.08 at 4:23 pm
ladyhawkke 11.03.08 at 4:18 pm
My husband’s been calling VA each day. He gets a few wrong numbers, but not a lot. He has had a lot of success in calling VA. Try switching to another state.
McCain-PalinGuy 11.03.08 at 4:23 pm
by the way, regarding David Axelrod dropping “voter forms” along the highways in FL…
…is anybody gonna drop loads of wet blankets around Chicago tomorrow night to put out the fires after His Greatness loses?
Maybe place some fire extinguishers along the Kennedy Expressway??
Pookie 11.03.08 at 4:25 pm
Woodie#502: yeah he did think that would not be noticed by the majority but he scratches with his pointing finger first then slyly and slimy eased his f##k off finger up.I am sure he had told his camp he was going to do this.Here is the quote about fooling the people:
You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.
Abraham Lincoln, (attributed)
Woodie 11.03.08 at 4:28 pm
The Drudge Report and all those poll reporting agency have been
paid off by Obama.
Do not believe what the polls are reporting….it is to psych you out!
for those have have not voted yet…
Woodie 11.03.08 at 4:29 pm
Pookie
well i was close
)
itbj2 11.03.08 at 4:29 pm
Please read this article. PUMAS will win this think for McCain.
http://www.marstonchronicles.info/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=95&Itemid=119
TexasTigress 11.03.08 at 4:31 pm
Whenever someone else is talking and Neil Cavuto is listening to them , neil always looks like he is trying to squeeze out a silent one .
goofsmom 11.03.08 at 4:31 pm
The only poll I’m watching is the AOL straw poll. It updates by itself you don’t have to hit refresh.
Please note only look at it if you like seeing all the RED states.
GO McCain!!!
http://news.aol.com/political-machine/2008/10/31/aol-straw-poll-oct-31-nov-4/
Woodie 11.03.08 at 4:32 pm
THE TRUTH SHALL PREVAIL!!!
Pookie 11.03.08 at 4:33 pm
Woodie#513:Close only counts in horseshoes and Hand Grenades.LOL
BrianH 11.03.08 at 4:34 pm
I’ll mention this again upstairs, maybe, but since the (un-)Holy Name of Rush has already beeninvoked …
A transcript of a call from an ex-liberal: http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_103108/content/01125112.guest.html
Excerpt:
TexasTigress 11.03.08 at 4:36 pm
Obama’s grandmother died
natkar76 11.03.08 at 4:36 pm
Fox stating Barack Obama’s grandmother died.
NativeFlower 11.03.08 at 4:37 pm
And he said, Take heed that ye be not deceived: for many shall come in my name, saying, I am [Christ]; and the time draweth near: go ye not therefore after them. (Luke 21:8)
BigCatLover 11.03.08 at 4:37 pm
BO’s grandmother has died – reported by fox.
Shane 11.03.08 at 4:38 pm
Murphy says on the eve of the battle……………….
Puma Pac, be prepared to WIN to-morrow.
Be prepared to Work to-day.
Encouragement from a wonderful leader and a brilliant organization,
whose members deserve to gain access to Ronald Reagan’s shining
city on a hill…A bastion of freedom and security..for the future.
And perhaps with their efforts the Puma movement can change that
nefarious and notorious German sign “Arbeit mit frei” (Work makes free)
to a better meaning in 2008 as their efforts and work in this
election tomorrow will free the Nation of the worst ever impending
Socialist/Communist disaster that threarens this great country,
like a hanging chad in Florida of yesteryears…which might break
at any time… A Presidency ruled by Mr Obama…
Good fortune, Shane, Ireland
BigCatLover 11.03.08 at 4:39 pm
Strange, very strange.
diva2 11.03.08 at 4:39 pm
TexasTigress
Gotta laugh at that one!
diva2 11.03.08 at 4:40 pm
TexasTigress
Not about nobo’s grandmother, but about Cavuto
Oops!
Susie1945 11.03.08 at 4:40 pm
just said on fox news that the pimps grandma died in hawaii
Luckyseven 11.03.08 at 4:41 pm
Don’t forget this video!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsUnw5RDYoA&eurl=http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/
Seems the one didn’t realize that he had to
face the PUMAS!!
BillieJo 11.03.08 at 4:41 pm
TexasTigress
Obama’s grandmother died
———-
I can’t find it anywhere…link?
Middle age female 11.03.08 at 4:41 pm
#490 murphy 11.03.08 at 4:07 pm
middle-aged female — I’m not sure. Will you send it again please?
**********
Resent.
SouthernGAL68 11.03.08 at 4:43 pm
I also just heard that BO’s grandmother just passed away!
diva2 11.03.08 at 4:43 pm
natkar76
Are you from MO? My cousins live in Lee’s Summit and KC.
snowtiger007 11.03.08 at 4:43 pm
goofsmom
The march was not a bust. I got over 30 (38 at last count) people including the leaders of some orgs. to call and e-mail and fax from TEam Sarah. They in turn have been sending out the action to everyone they know.
And so on and so on and so on.
Also another fellow,seethroughobama, who is doing a petition posted it on his site and sent the action to everyone he knows. I linked the petition earlier n another thread and need to find it again.
There is more and more connected to your action than you know.
BigCatLover 11.03.08 at 4:44 pm
Mean pumas. Pull those claws in.
diva2 11.03.08 at 4:45 pm
Anyone hearing anything on the Sheehan, Poopoo (Pelosi)race in CA?
Pookie 11.03.08 at 4:45 pm
I think it is sad when anyone loses their grandmother.Bo’s grandmother was probably the only important woman in his life.
sue66 11.03.08 at 4:45 pm
#169 Marie
This is just a funny aside to breaking the Cuban embargo. Where I live for most of the year, has thousands of US visitors. In Canada, there is trade with Cuba. Law abiding US citizens smuggle thousands of dollars worth of Cuban cigars across the border every year. My friend says the average sale of cigars to a US man is $700, enough to get him through til next year. Like I said, just a funny aside to it.
Bak to e-mailing. I don’t think I’ll send that one though. You won’t believe the number of requests we get for “chocolates” from here.
BillieJo 11.03.08 at 4:45 pm
Luckyseven 11.03.08 at 4:41 pm
Don’t forget this video!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsUnw5RDYoA&eurl=http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/
Seems the one didn’t realize that he had to

face the PUMAS!!
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Thanks for that little reminder. I posted it on Drudge with, “Tomorrow is payback time from Hillary Democrats!”
natkar76 11.03.08 at 4:46 pm
diva2 11.03.08 at 4:43 pm
natkar76
Are you from MO? My cousins live in Lee’s Summit and KC.
No I am in Oregon…but I wish I lived in the mid-west where my vote for McCain would actually count.
Middle age female 11.03.08 at 4:46 pm
Guess BO’s grandmother really was ill. Too bad she never got to see her great grandkids recently.
diva2 11.03.08 at 4:47 pm
It amazes me that nobo’s kids would not even see his grandmother, when they were vacationing there or before her death. What is so sick about this. There was nothing to lose on anyone’s part. What does MO or nobo or both have against his grandmother?
McCain-PalinGuy 11.03.08 at 4:47 pm
I’m sorry about my post #538.
diva2 11.03.08 at 4:48 pm
natkar76
I am your neighbor. SW WA, just over the bridge from Portland about 15 minutes.
SouthernGAL68 11.03.08 at 4:48 pm
Do ya’ll know what is sad … We ALL know that Obama is the type of person who would kick his grandmother in the face to win an election! What does this say about his character??
snowtiger007 11.03.08 at 4:49 pm
hillstheone 11.03.08 at 3:38 pm
hi snowtiger, any new news from the folks at your store & how they’re voting?
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Hiya hills =hugs=
I posted the good news earlier. A couple of college kids I have been talking to have switched to McCian. All their friends are either switching or having serious doubts.
I talked to these kids seperatley and they don’t now each other but, they both said the same things.
“O” is promising everything to everybody. He is just another politician. He doesn’t stand for antthing. He has been lying to us”.
Thenunion fellow I was trying to get to McCain has decided to boycott the election. When he found out about the dems support for taking away the secret ballot for unions, he went ballistic. Of course he will never vote for a republican but, the dems want have his vote this year.
So things are looking very very good.
murphy 11.03.08 at 4:50 pm
Rest in peace Madelyn Dunham.
goofsmom 11.03.08 at 4:51 pm
(((snowtiger007)))
Thank you so much… with everyone working so hard, I just felt bad we didn’t have body’s on the picketline.
All of you are awesome and we had an excellent virtual march on the Times!.
(((extra Hug)))
mimi1020 11.03.08 at 4:51 pm
MY SYMPATHIES TO SEN. OBAMA (NOTE I USED HIS REAL NAME)
THE DEATH OF A LOVED ONE IS SAD. NO MATTER WHO YOU ARE.
REST IN PEACE GRANDMA…… SORRY FOR YOUR LOSS OBAMA…
OK, NOW, MOVING ON…………
WE’VE GOT AN ELECTION TO WIN – GOOOO PUMAAAAASSSSS
THOSE REPUBS ARE COUNTING ON US! HA – WOULDA THUNK IT
natkar76 11.03.08 at 4:53 pm
diva2 11.03.08 at 4:47 pm
It amazes me that nobo’s kids would not even see his grandmother, when they were vacationing there or before her death. What is so sick about this. There was nothing to lose on anyone’s part. What does MO or nobo or both have against his grandmother?
IMO – The thing they hold against her is the fact that she is white…
We do live close to each other!
hillfan4mccain 11.03.08 at 4:54 pm
ladyhawkke 11.03.08 at 4:18 pm
Pumas, I am really getting discouraged. I have been calling and am getting nothing but wrong numbers. Some I have left messages. I have yet to speak to one person today. I am calling Florida. However, this happened yesterday in PA. Anyone else having problems?
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Yes, but it I have had that experience a lot. Had it with Hillary’s lists also. I get a lot of ‘this is the third call I’ve gotten from you guys’. I have gone thru pages and pages of numbers with only a handful of correct numbers etc… Just keep on going.
mzebest 11.03.08 at 4:54 pm
David Swanson is a “Progressive Democrat” which is another code name for one of Ayers’ radicals and he’s been an employee of ACORN
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Swanson
Anna7000 11.03.08 at 4:54 pm
Missed the original post, from other’s responses, sounds like goofsmom is feeling like her incredible action on the la times was not a “success”.
GOOFSMOM – Are you kidding me? There are many measures of success. I think we all know full well that achieving our desired outcome tends to be the thing we most want. Who wouldn’t. But the path to that is never fast or easy. It happens in baby steps and through persistent efforts that take many shapes. You put forth a glorious effort which received media attention (not something easy to come by these days for our side!) and in so doing advanced the cause just that much more.
At the end of the day when we put our head down on our pillow to go to sleep, each of us has to be able to live with ourselves. Some in this world likely find that harder to do than others.
Goofsmom, all I can say is:
1. Thank you.
2. You should rest very well knowing you followed your heart and did the right thing, and galvanized others in the process (not easy to do).
SouthernGAL68 11.03.08 at 4:55 pm
Storytellers …. SO SAD! I thought the same thing!
I wondered if she could have been dead weeks or months ago, but waited until now to announce it. Sympathy vote or two!
Woodie 11.03.08 at 4:56 pm
hillary supporters are 14% of the total voters registered for this election REMEMBER THAT….the undecided will DECIDE THIS ELECTION or are we one in the same? I’ll leave that to the experts that are on this blog
)
I DON’T KNOW BECAUSE I HATE LOOKING AT THOSE POLLS
snowtiger007 11.03.08 at 4:56 pm
goofsmom
Team Sarah has been great. I have 38 friends now and that is in one day.
I wish I had known about this place a week ago, They are republican PUMAS I swear.
I sent it out on my regular list too.
See, never a reason to get depressed around PUMAS. We got each other covered.
mccaindemo 11.03.08 at 4:56 pm
Guess that poor deluded soul, Caroline Kennedy, made the rounds of the morning show this am………guess she hasn’t heard about Ayers-Obama-Sirhan connection huh????..once again stumping for Obama. Politics really DO make strange bedfellows….JFK & Bobby must be crying real tears over their beloved familys folly in promoting this man who stands for the very OPPOSITE of what they stood for in this great country. The Kennedy magic is gone.
diva2 11.03.08 at 4:56 pm
I hope I am not invading Webfoot’s privacy, but I thought you all should know her dad passed away recently. I know you would all be supportive of her.
NYModerate 11.03.08 at 4:58 pm
SCREW THE POLLS, Don’t listen to the media!!!
VOTE VOTE VOTE…
BrianH 11.03.08 at 4:58 pm
DancesWithPumas 11.03.08 at 1:07 pm
“5. Support good moderate politicians regardless of party”
“Moderate”, being a relative term, is hard to define.
Since the Democratic Party has made only slight changes to their platform over the past 20 / 30 years, they’ve, basically, maintained a fixed position. The Republicans, on the other hand, have moved far to the right, ala bush, gingrich, dumbya, so, if people are defining themselves as somewhere in the middle (moderate), between far right and fixed point Democratic positions, they’re just left of Attila the Hun.
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Beg to differ. Where is the “human rights interventionism” platform of yore, e.g.? Reread Lieberman’s speech about his attempt to keep the DNC from doing a 180 in order to oppose Bush when he was taught by 9/11 that the Dems had been right, that intervention and nation-building were sometimes necessary.
turndownobama 11.03.08 at 4:59 pm
BrianH 11.03.08 at 4:14 pm
freddie;
The reason O? No! didn’t take his own and MO’s advice about not running till he had more achievements is that HE IS NOT HIS OWN MASTER. He is a cat’s paw
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This makes sense to me (though I’m not so sure about which cabal is doing it, I’d say Ted Kennedy/Pelosi). Google “2010-2012-2016 plan”.
hillfan4mccain 11.03.08 at 5:00 pm
I guess Bo was right, his grandmother didnt make it to election day. Just like he said. I dont understand the children not seeing her either. To me it speaks to where he heart is. But we knew that. God Bless her.
BrianH 11.03.08 at 5:03 pm
Slightly modifying the phrase ref’d above from Nibras Kazimi, Obugger will be brought down by the “FU Factor”.
turndownobama 11.03.08 at 5:03 pm
mimi1020 11.03.08 at 4:51 pm
MY SYMPATHIES TO SEN. OBAMA (NOTE I USED HIS REAL NAME)
THE DEATH OF A LOVED ONE IS SAD. NO MATTER WHO YOU ARE.
REST IN PEACE GRANDMA…… SORRY FOR YOUR LOSS OBAMA…
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Amen.
SouthernGAL68 11.03.08 at 5:04 pm
More encouagement from down south … Louisiana will GO RED!
I am a sales rep. for an industrial company. I have NOT spoken to one customer who will be voting for Obama! Everyone has told me that they WILL be voting McCain. They also told me that their friends, family and employees ALL will be VOTING McCain as well! Also, part of my territory extends into Arkansas and Texas. ALL McCain down here!
mzebest 11.03.08 at 5:04 pm
BREAKING NEWS
Just heard on the radio that Obama’s grandmother died. Wonder if there’s foul play in her death to prevent birth certificate information from leaking? Can’t help but think the worst of this man.
goofsmom 11.03.08 at 5:04 pm
(((Anna7000)))
Thank you, you wonderful puma
I guess one of the things that made me so disappointed about today was something I hadn’t shared with all the pumas
We had been approach by a couple of Hollywood personalities that they were going to try to be there today and they stiffed us!. This was something we had counted on and that is what makes me sad. Don’t they understand how hard we, the people who go watch their films, are trying to save this country and they just blew us off.
Goofsdad says a big thanks and send lots of (((hugs))) to everyone for participating with the LA Times March.
His site FreedomMarch will not go away after the election because we believe (like the Pumas) that the corruption in the government and MSM has to stop!!!
Thank’s to all for your kind words and encouragement..
sue66 11.03.08 at 5:04 pm
#215 thecandypoem – same conclusion I came to. Still, very hard to do. I needed a couple of stiff drinks after voting and am still telling myself it was the right thing to do. My e-mail are a lot more enthusiastic when I send them, than I was feeling about it.
snowtiger007 11.03.08 at 5:05 pm
OH and I good story about O supporters.
A woamn cam ein with her three children this week A regular of mine. All three were wearing O shirts. I said, with a smile “SO I take it you are Obama supporters?”
She luaghed and said yes you? “McCAin”, I replied.
“Hye Mom, the little girl said with a big smile, HE is voting for McCain>”
This little girl is a sweetheart. I always tell her how pretty she is and usually give candy to the kids who come in with their parents.
Being by-racial she is kinda self concious about her looks. Very light skin pale blue eyes african features and kinky blonde hair.
Rather exotic looking.
Anyway, she was thrilled to know I supported McCain.
I chatted politely with the mother for a bit and we wished each other luck (she wished me luck first).
On the way out little girl told her mom, “You were right. Not all McCAins people are racists.”
Kempion 11.03.08 at 5:05 pm
Voting strict party line isn’t going to fix anything.
Did the Republicans spend themselves out of office? Sure.
Did the Pelosi faction do anything they siad they were going to do? No.
We need balance.
storytellers 11.03.08 at 5:06 pm
pumas
on a tv political debate prog. is spain
they are taking a poll by phone
90% are for MCCAIN
Oneof18million cracks... 11.03.08 at 5:07 pm
Obama’s Grandmother Dies on Eve of Election
Ann Dunham — the grandmother of Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama — died Monday after a prolonged battle with cancer.
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/11/03/obamas-grandmother-dies-eve-election/
hillfan4mccain 11.03.08 at 5:07 pm
Woodie 11.03.08 at 4:56 pm
hillary supporters are 14% of the total voters registered for this election REMEMBER THAT…
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Really only 14%? That doesnt make sense to me.
storytellers 11.03.08 at 5:08 pm
i am sorry for the typo , in spain
snowtiger007 11.03.08 at 5:08 pm
must go bbl
prplvette85 11.03.08 at 5:09 pm
I hate to think I am being mean to say this, but do you think it is possible she had already passed when he went to Hawaii without mo& the kids? and they just released the “news” today, possibly for sympathy vote?…I hate to think like that, but given his history of lies…..
Middle age female 11.03.08 at 5:09 pm
BO only leads McCain by 1% of those who have already voted. That is a poor showing for BO.
Oneof18million cracks... 11.03.08 at 5:09 pm
Obama’s Grandmother Dies on Eve of Election
Ann Dunham — the grandmother of Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama — died Monday after a prolonged battle with cancer.
http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/11/03/obamas-grandmother-dies-eve-election/
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Just breaking news, not much of a story anywhere yet. AOLnews has it also.
gostrumcat 11.03.08 at 5:10 pm
Webfoot
If you’re lurking, I am very sorry for your loss.
CTKEY 11.03.08 at 5:10 pm
It is sad to hear about BOs grandmother. BO wasn’t there and the grandkids did not get to see her before she died. I hope she didn’t die alone. BO is not much of a family oriented guy as we have come to know.
SouthJerseyPUMA 11.03.08 at 5:10 pm
I hope that granny left something to tell… wasnt it nice of the whole family to visit granny in her last days!!! that speaks volumes to me on MO’s character too!! anyway, i know i feel this huge weight on my chest today for my country… i cant eat.. i am scared for what tomorrow will bring for wednesday~ i couldnt bear to lose again to this scumbag… i will hang the flag upside down and hang my head is shame of america if McCain cant pull this out… i hate the electoral vote!!! i feel like my vote doesnt count!! they are saying McCain HAS TO take Ohio, PA, and Florida to win~ i feel like a zombie, numb and in a daze… and I have decided Thursday I will officially not be a democrat anymore!!
Oneof18million cracks... 11.03.08 at 5:10 pm
prplvette85
I don’t think so. That’s hard to believe.
Middle age female 11.03.08 at 5:10 pm
Do you really listen to robo calls? I hang up when they start.
Anna7000 11.03.08 at 5:11 pm
Goofsmom – I can imagine how disappointing that would feel to be blown off, especially by high profile types that would potentially add to the visibility of your efforts. But, there are a lot of jerks out there. I’m sorry you had to have that experience, especially now when you’re likely so tired and with less reserves than normal to deal with that kind of bd.
(((((((((((((Goofsmom))))))))))))
hillfan4mccain 11.03.08 at 5:14 pm
Fox talking about PUMAs
diva2 11.03.08 at 5:14 pm
PUMAS mentioned on FOX! Howard Wolfson is trying to say McCain has not had much success in bringing over Hillary supporters. YUCK!
mick 11.03.08 at 5:14 pm
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**** VOTERS ALERT **** VOTERS ALERT **** VOTERS ALERT ****
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This just emailed to me …
I have been informed, that if one votes straight Dem. or Rep. ticket at the polls, before you have voted for the President, your vote for President will not be counted. If you go to http://www.snopes.com/politics/ballot/straightticket.asp
you will see that this is true and it tells you that it’s a good idea to vote for each candidate individually, in any case.
I’m happy to get this info and want to pass it along, since it’s already circulating among Obama supporters. We need all our Republican votes to count, so I owe a debt of gratitude to the Democrat who ‘mistakenly’ sent the email my way. Thanks! Even if you know this, others may not, so please pass it on!
antifish 11.03.08 at 5:14 pm
Got this from a post at the HuffPo site. Makes me sick!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buHHENJekFk
murphy 11.03.08 at 5:15 pm
This is NOT news. An 86 year old woman with cancer died. It is sad for her family and loved ones, and every death is a sad reminder of our own mortality.
Let’s leave it at that.
And our sincere sympathy to webfoot and her family during their own sad time.
hillfan4mccain 11.03.08 at 5:15 pm
Poor Howard Wolfson, still doesnt believe we are going to McCain (mainly cuz of Palin). I’m sure he knows the truth.
ladyhawkke 11.03.08 at 5:16 pm
natkar76 Those pics of Palin’s rally are awesome!! We will do this, yes we will!! McCain/Palin
Oneof18million cracks... 11.03.08 at 5:16 pm
Not to be cruel but I don’t think it will make a bit of difference in the election. It makes you wonder what rift was in the family that Michelle and the girls did not go to see her when they were in Hawaii for vacation and then not go when he went his last time for her being sick.
Now his mother and maternal grandmother have died of cancer. He has been a smoker so talk about health issues he needs to be careful. Now he only has his Kenyan Grandmother left.
freddiebrown 11.03.08 at 5:17 pm
Don’t listen to Robo Calls. Just hang up.
Don’t read email responses you get. When you get the gist that they are for Obama, just delete it. I got one from a very stupid woman…we started business almost the same time.
A month ago, she said her biz is about to go under (she is a terrible designer and biz woman0 and all she can spout is Obama’s Godliness. Perhaps O will spread the wealth to her now that she needs it.
turndownobama 11.03.08 at 5:17 pm
hillfan4mccain 11.03.08 at 5:07 pm
hillary supporters are 14% of the total voters registered for this election REMEMBER THAT…
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Really only 14%? That doesnt make sense to me.
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3-4 million PUMAs voting, more staying home
Electorate 36 million?
just.words... 11.03.08 at 5:17 pm
SouthJerseyPUMA 11.03.08 at 5:10 pm
Keep your chin up, SJP!
We are going to WIN this!!
ladyhawkke 11.03.08 at 5:18 pm
Mick I don’t understand that ae-mail. What do you mean, “before you voted for Pres?” It’s all on the same ballot. And I don’t believe Snopes anymore as I heard they are not always correct.
diva2 11.03.08 at 5:18 pm
SouthJersey
YOU of all people know it ain’t over yet. It was easier to get away with fraud during the primaries than it is now. Go eat, breathe and take care of that little one of yours.
lol
diva2 11.03.08 at 5:20 pm
#597 Oneof18millioncracks
Do you realize he could have cancer right now and we woudn’t know because he won’t release his health records? OR any number of other health issues….
antifish 11.03.08 at 5:21 pm
Middle age female 11.03.08 at 5:09 pm
BO only leads McCain by 1% of those who have already voted. That is a poor showing for BO.
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Based on what I saw when early voting and what I’ve seen on TV which is a very disproportionate number of AA early voting, this must mean the Republican base is energized and getting out the vote. Good news for McCain.
slyt2 11.03.08 at 5:22 pm
Obama’s grandma died
TURN ON FOX NOW COMING UP THEY SAY BO KNEW ABOUT HIS AUNT (THE ONE HE IS CLAIMING HE DIDN’T KNOW WAS HERE ILLEGALLY)… ALERT..ALERT//
diva2 11.03.08 at 5:23 pm
#594 Murphy
I will pass it on to her. Thank you.
slyt2 11.03.08 at 5:23 pm
IT IS ON NOW……
marie 11.03.08 at 5:24 pm
Why didnt he take his entire family back with him if he thought that granny was in her last dying moments.
I just dont get it. And no other mention of her until today (death). And if she was on her dying bed why not go back and spend the last moments with her.
Is this true?
http://israelinsider.ning.com/profiles/blogs/is-obama-the-secret-son-of
Is Obama the secret son of Malcolm X?
Posted by Israel Insider on November 2, 2008 at 7:00pm
kat in your hat 11.03.08 at 5:24 pm
I am literally going through my phone book one page at a time and calling everyone I know. I actually know a good amount of people in battleground states.
I have a cold or something, so my voice is terrible. Can you imagine, I am calling people, a few I haven’t spoken to in years! So here I am with a terrible voice, saying Hi! How are you? Long time….blah blah….SO, as you know I have always been a democrat, but now I am voting McCain…let me tell you why. So far so good. (I even called an ex-boyfriend! Who cares. We need his vote. lol.)
I’m going to call about 5-10 more people, and the rest I am going to email. I need to write something good and brief and mass email it…
You know, I decided to put myself on the line with some people. Doesn’t matter now, gotta at least try.
Ok I’ll be back pumas.
diva2 11.03.08 at 5:25 pm
Whhhhaaattttt? Obam said he is a strong believer in the law re: his aunt who illegally lives here. Michelle Malkin knocking nobo big time callibng him a liar. Hee hee
murphy 11.03.08 at 5:25 pm
diva2 — please do, and thank you.
Webfoot is one of our earliest, most active, kindest, and informative members. She is a very valuable member of the Puma community and we hope to see her back on the blog as soon as she feels like it.
D.
tennaseepuma 11.03.08 at 5:26 pm
I am on team Sarah
Snowtiger and goofsmom what is your name?
BrianH 11.03.08 at 5:27 pm
Uh-Oh! Oblotbrain has 3 more EC seats on the AOL Straw Poll! He now leads in VT! 45 seats. Heh.
BTW, little trick for those who want to follow the poll: open the map in a tab or window, and leave it open. It will continue to update, once every minute or two.
Oneof18million cracks... 11.03.08 at 5:27 pm
murphy 11.03.08 at 5:15 pm
This is NOT news. An 86 year old woman with cancer died. It is sad for her family and loved ones, and every death is a sad reminder of our own mortality.
Let’s leave it at that.
And our sincere sympathy to webfoot and her family during their own sad time.
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I think Murphy does not want us to discuss it. Sorry for posting it, I thought it was News.
Hey Slyt2 how ya doing? Is Trish from Canada and Carrie still around? Slyt2 still watching GH? Don’t ya just love Jax?
diva2 11.03.08 at 5:27 pm
#611 Murphy
: )
Paddyboy 11.03.08 at 5:27 pm
‘Hellooo’ ‘-ooo’ ‘-ooo’…
Wow, the acoustics in here are great! Love the echo.
Gotta say – although I know most of you will never see my post because of your ‘awaiting moderation to remove anything that is not fervently anti-Obama’ – that I think some of you might need help. The level of conspiracy theory in here has been astounding for some time. But now there are people who, having first said, “What’s Obama’s little Hawaii vacation about? If his mom is sick, why won’t he tell us? He’s making it up!”, have now changed their tone to, “I bet they had her in the freezer, to pull her out just in time,” or, “Oh, no surprise that he’s not with her right now.”
Man, you guys are really off the deep end. I’d like to say, as a level-headed, liberal Democrat, that we really don’t want you back. I certainly don’t. Obama might try to mend fences, but I don’t want to be associated with anyone who thinks like many of you seem to.
And now, I’ll sign off, my comment will await moderation, and the little Goebbels who runs this echo chamber will be sure to remove the ‘disagreeing’ comment for fear that you all might have to read something that actually resonates with external reality.
slyt2 11.03.08 at 5:27 pm
Murphy said And our sincere sympathy to webfoot and her family during their own sad time.
Oh what happened I missed the comment
commongoal 11.03.08 at 5:28 pm
The Puma Mini-Festo
Puma P. Puma
Imagine this night, this night of nights November 3, 2008, when all are asleep in their cozy beds, then there will be a prowling, a clawing, and a growling in and around our towns and cities across this wide continent. We will hunt in the light of this new and ever-growing manifesto. We are many, from a variety of paths but this torch will light our way to our common goal.
We fight to uphold democratic principles over the “Democratic” party. We transcend strict partisan allegiance in favor of nobler and more fundamental pursuit: to assure that the electorate is fairly represented, and that each person’s “voice” is heard as a single, valid vote. Our votes will counterbalance and punish the efforts of any side that engages in wide-scale fraud and intimidation, racism, race-baiting, ageism, misogyny, or any such skullduggery.
The media will be held to the strictest of standards, and any overt looniness in terms of uncritical support of a candidate will be raged against by the puma. Loons in our line of attack, and currenrly within 24 hours of losing their jobs are: Rachel Maddow, Chris Matthews, Keith Olbermann, Campbell Brown, Jack Cafferty, etc etc.
mick 11.03.08 at 5:28 pm
RIP Madelyn Dunham.
iguessimapuma 11.03.08 at 5:28 pm
I voted for McCain almost two weeks ago. I pressed the button and closed my eyes. I guess I couldn’t “get over it.” I did vote for the other Dems on the ticket. I was very upset with the Democratic party for the way they have treated Hillary. I know that she is being “held hostage” by them and we need to free her. The only way that we can get her into office in 2012 is to vote for McCain. Please tell me that there are enough of us out there to bring BO down.
BillieJo 11.03.08 at 5:28 pm
turndownobama 11.03.08 at 5:17 pm
hillfan4mccain 11.03.08 at 5:07 pm
hillary supporters are 14% of the total voters registered for this election REMEMBER THAT…
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Really only 14%? That doesnt make sense to me.
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3-4 million PUMAs voting, more staying home
Electorate 36 million?
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There were 36 million Democrats that voted in the primary. 18 million cracks, remember.
We have no idea how many of the 18 million Hillary supporters will vote against obie. My guess is between 4-8 million…but who knows?
iguessimapuma 11.03.08 at 5:30 pm
What about Donna Brazille? I want her outta there…
Asian4Hillary 11.03.08 at 5:30 pm
I don’t think NObama will rush and fly to Hawaii to be there with his sister and other relatives. He would be busy campaigning like he always do, Michelle NObama couldn’t care less about Madelyn Durnham.
NObama will wait until election is over before flying to Hawaii. He’s no good as a son to Ann, he’s no good as a grandson to Madelyn! As he wrote in his book, he hates the white part of his self!
slyt2 11.03.08 at 5:31 pm
(((((((Oneof18million cracks)))))) hey your back….yes i’m still watching general hospital (not now though, unlike Murphy thinks it’s not on all the time).How are you doing missed seeing you here..Yes Jax
NYModerate 11.03.08 at 5:31 pm
FOX!!!! I AM VOTING FOR MCCAIN TOMMOROW.
BELIEVE WHAT YOU WANT!!!
BrianH 11.03.08 at 5:31 pm
diva2, #284.
Hilarious! Love it!
BillieJo 11.03.08 at 5:32 pm
I am so sick of this election and all the ugliness.
kat in your hat 11.03.08 at 5:33 pm
Please forgive me but I always imagined her passing away the eve of election. No idea why–certainly didn’t want her to, just always thought that would happen.
They just said on TV that she died early this morning, and Obama found out at about 8 AM.
SOUTHJERSEY:
Do NOT believe the media and their polls and their MUST this and that talk. Don’t even listen to them. Someone was just saying that McCain MUST win Indiana, and since it’s the first state–it dictates the rest. That’s horsecrap. The media will try to manipulate everything from tonight till tomorrow.
Tune them out. We got this one.
ladyhawkke 11.03.08 at 5:33 pm
I give up. I am not making any more calls, out of the 40 I called, most were wrong numbers, went to co, fl & pa. Got busy signals and left messages. I hope other had better luck.
murphy 11.03.08 at 5:33 pm
oneof18million — not at all — sorry, I just dont want Pumas to get discouraged. It’s sad that his grandmother died.
ladyhawkke 11.03.08 at 5:34 pm
katinyourhat I just don’t believe she died last night, it’s fabricated. I’m going to check Hawaii’s paper and see if there’s a notice.
Anna7000 11.03.08 at 5:34 pm
Huge ditto of Murphy’s comment in post 594.
Mick – Please explain your post about how votes may or may not count related to one’s party and various races. I may be thick, but I didn’t get it and though I already voted, would hate for someone to see it and potentially misinterpret it.
diva2 11.03.08 at 5:35 pm
#616 slyt2
Received an email saying Webfoot’s dad had passed away. He wanted to be buried in MO so they were heading back there. I hope I didn’t invade her privacy by posting it. Please keep her in your thoughts.
shampoovta 11.03.08 at 5:37 pm
Hay hay Pumas!
ROAR!
1gypsy4mc 11.03.08 at 5:37 pm
diva2 Please tell Webfoot my prayers are with her. I do know what she is going through!! God Bless.
Asian4Hillary 11.03.08 at 5:38 pm
McCAIN CAMPAIGN MEMO: READING THE EXIT POLLS
Mon Nov 03 2008 16:53:14 ET
As we have seen in previous election cycles, the exit poll results do leak early and that ends up influencing the coverage of the race before even the first state polls close at 6:00 PM Eastern.
However, we want to remind the campaign that the media’s own post-election study of the exit polls in 2004 showed that the exit polls overstate the Democratic candidate’s support. Therefore, we would discourage a rush to judgment based on the exit polls and wait until there has been a representative sampling of actual tabulated results from a variety of counties and precincts in a state.
Here are the key points to keep in mind when the exit poll data starts being leaked:
1. Historically, exit polls have tended to overstate the Democratic vote.
2. The exit polls are likely to overstate the Obama vote because Obama voters are more likely to participate in the exit poll.
3. The exit polls have tended to skew most Democratic in years where there is high turnout and high vote interest like in 1992 and 2004.
4. It is not just the national exit poll that skews Democratic, but each of the state exit polls also suffers from the same Democratic leanings.
5. The results of the exit polls are also influenced by the demographics of the voters who conduct the exit polls.
After the 2004 election, the National Election Pool completed a study investigating why the exit polls that year showed John Kerry over performing 5.5 net points better than the actual results showed him to have done. Their conclusion was that the primary reason the exit polls was that Kerry voters and Democrats were more likely to participate in the exit polls.
“Our investigation of the differences between the exit poll estimates and the actual vote count point to one primary reason: in a number of precincts a higher than average Within Precinct Error most likely due to Kerry voters participating in the exit polls at a higher rate than Bush voters. There has been partisan overstatements in previous elections, more often overstating the Democrat, but occasionally overstating the Republican.
We believe that this will hold true this year. The recent Fox News survey showed that 46% of Obama voters said they were very likely to participate in the exit polls, while just 35% of McCain supporters are.
In fact, even the 2004 exit poll report noted that higher turnout nationally and higher levels of voter interest in both 1992 and 2004 correlated with greater Within Precinct Error.
The overstating of the Democratic vote did not only occur in the national exit polls, but also occurred in the state exit polls. The 2004 exit poll report cited that the Kerry vote was overstated by more than one standard error in 26 states, while the Bush vote was overstated in just four states. So we should also expect the individual state exit polls on Tuesday to be more Democratic as well.
So given that turnout is expected to be even higher than 2004 and that Democrats are more likely to participate in the exit polls, this means we should expect greater fluctuation and variation in the exit polls from the actual election results.
The 2004 exit poll report also showed that the greatest error in the exit poll came in precincts where the interviewer was younger. The completion rates were lower and the refusal rates and Within Precinct Error was higher when the interviewers were under the age of 35.[6] Complicating this is that nearly half the interviewers were under the age of 35, including 35% who were 18-24 and another 15% were 25-34.
Conclusions
Based on the previous exit poll results, we should expect once again that Tuesday’s exit poll data could overstate the Obama vote and under represent the McCain vote.
It is important that the campaign make sure the media realizes this, so that when the exit polls do leak, people do not overreact to the early exit poll data. Rather than looking at the exit polls, we should wait until we start seeing actual election results from key precincts and counties to gauge who won the election.
ontherocks 11.03.08 at 5:38 pm
My goal is to prove the media wrong. My mom and her husband already voted for McCain. My dad and his girlfriend voted McCain. My sister voted McCain. My brother, lost cause, he loves THATONE.
I will not have doubts. I will believe.
No BO!!!
natkar76 11.03.08 at 5:38 pm
I think we need to let everyone we know, blogs, comments, etc., that they must IGNORE these polls and GET out and VOTE!!!
murphy 11.03.08 at 5:38 pm
what Kat in Your Hat said.
Seriously, Folks — turn OFF the TV. It will only make you cry tears of rage, humiliation, fear, and impotence. And those are BAD TEARS TO CRY.
Cry for the little girl who was stoned to death in Somalia last week.
Cry for the poor people in LA and NO and Chicago who have been duped by a false dream of hope and change.
Cry for mothers and women dying of breast cancer.
Cry for lonely people and abandoned people.
Cry because they stole our votes.
Cry because we’re going to fight — no matter what, and we’ll never give up.
DONT cry because some TV millionaire wants you to.
ladyhawkke 11.03.08 at 5:39 pm
Nothing in today’s paper. Will check again tomorrow. I just think it’s suspicious that this came out now.
http://www.legacy.com/StarBulletin/Obituaries.asp
Woodie 11.03.08 at 5:39 pm
if ayers doesn’t like america, why doesn’t he move….
Anna7000 11.03.08 at 5:39 pm
I really really hope, wish, pray, am beggin’ as a fellow PUMA that we can leave the issue of BO’s grandmother to rest, so to speak. Seems like it can 1) become a needless distraction, and 2) trigger posts that, in retrospect, some may wish they hadn’t posted. People die. It happens every day. We know of this death because it’s the relative of a prominent politician, that’s all. Seems no need to get overly emotional about it one way or another, and certainly not snide. Would really hate to see this become an issue for the next few hours on the blog.
slyt2 11.03.08 at 5:39 pm
diva2 oh thank you , lost my dad a year ago (aug 2nd 2007) very hard, very sorry for her, my heart goes out to her and family.
Oneof18million cracks... 11.03.08 at 5:40 pm
Oh I understand, I don’t think PUMAs can get discouraged. We all know him for who he is. Why should PUMAs get side tracked when HE did not see it necesary to be at her side or allow his children to visit her. She lived her life and is now in a better place.
Tomorrow is one of the most important days of America’s lifetime, we must stayed focused just as Obot is.
PUMAs will prowl til the wee hours of the night.
BillieJo 11.03.08 at 5:40 pm
Looks like this is the only election the Republican’s didn’t have an October surprise. Who would have thunk? The only big tank they rolled out was Hannity, and he was only allowed on FoxNews. The Republican’s may have blown it big time, and their members are gonna loose a lot of their wealth.
Oh well, we as PUMAs did the best we could to help them. Now we will see if our PUMA numbers were enough to counter ACORN and corruption.
diva2 11.03.08 at 5:41 pm
#640 slyt2
Will let her know. Thank you. : )
Repub in San Diego 11.03.08 at 5:42 pm
Hi PUMAs! Found your blog and just wanted to say thank you for loving your country. You’re the best!
Pam in San Diego
McCain/Palin 08
hillfan4mccain 11.03.08 at 5:42 pm
BillieJo 11.03.08 at 5:28 pm
turndownobama 11.03.08 at 5:17 pm
hillary supporters are 14% of the total voters registered for this election REMEMBER THAT…
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Really only 14%? That doesnt make sense to me.
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3-4 million PUMAs voting, more staying home
Electorate 36 million?
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There were 36 million Democrats that voted in the primary. 18 million cracks, remember.
We have no idea how many of the 18 million Hillary supporters will vote against obie. My guess is between 4-8 million…but who knows?
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Woodie said of total registered for GE (Hillary Supporters) was 14%. That didnt making sense to me. I guess Woodie meant of Pumas. right?
warrior4hillary 11.03.08 at 5:42 pm
What I look forward to the most in a McCain/Palin administration is the preservation of our Constitution and freedoms. I look forward to the complete reform of our Federal Gov’t to once again be returned to the people, and represented by the people. I want the next President to put country first in all of his policies and John McCain has a long record of doing just that. When John McCain chose Sarah Palin as his running mate, it showed America how committed he was to reforming Beltway politics and the “me first, country second” politics as usual. I am looking forward to handing freedom and prosperity over to my 21 mo. old daughter and telling her that her freedoms should never be taken for granted. I want her to know of the millions of men and women that fought hard, at home and abroad, to preserve the freedoms that allow her the opportunity to dream big and reach for the stars in all she does. I want to afford her the opportunity and prosperity to say, “Do not tell me the sky is the limit when there are foot prints on the moon.” I look forward to passing on the will and tenacity to fight for the preservation of democracy to my child and grandchildren. I look forward to a safe and prosperous country because McCain will help to make the USA energy independent. That will spur our economy and national security. I can’t wait to see John McCain hold up a newspaper on November 5 that reads “Obama defeats McCain” all the while smiling pride fully as the next President- elect of the USA.
I am willing to give my time, my priorities, my freedom, my energy, my last breath to defend America in this election. I am willing to trek across PA and stay in hotels with my daughter because driving 6 hrs to go home isn’t feasible after spending 4 hours canvassing houses in the name of preserving Democracy. I am willing to make just one extra call to an undecided voter in a swing state because if you can make a difference in one person’s life, it was worth while. I am willing to send out that email with tired eyes because I know how important it is. I am ready and willing to drive 5 hrs, 6 hrs, 10 hrs or more with my young daughter in tow to show up at a rally and pass out WAM material in support of preserving democracy. I am willing to budget my household to donate an extra $50 or $100 to the GOP, John McCain, a PAC that supports John McCain or professionally printing out 500 – 1000 flyers a week. I am willing to brave the cold weather to walk door to door and speak with my neighbors about voting for McCain. I am willing to enter into “Obama territory” to speak with voters (with my daughter by my side) about America and the preservation of the “land that I love”. Maybe it is the old softball player in me that says “NEVER take that third strike without a swing.” Whatever it is that needs to be done to accomplish a McCain/Palin victory in 2008, I am ready and willing to do. No feat is too great, no aspiration is too far, believe in yourself and the difference one positive voice/ action can make in the world. The only obstacle standing in your way is yourself. Let go of those inhibitions, let go of those fears and serve a cause greater than yourself…generations to come are counting on you just like the generations before
diva2 11.03.08 at 5:42 pm
Fox news coming up
FL dems filing lawsuit against GOP.Go figure….
atypical 11.03.08 at 5:42 pm
I thought BO’s grandmother had fallen/broken hip and was doing well after having come home from the hospital. When did they say cancer?
ladyhawkke 11.03.08 at 5:43 pm
Wonder what is going on with the ACORN lawsuits. Believe me, it’s not over with the corruption. I would love for a bunch of those votes to be thrown out.
hillfan4mccain 11.03.08 at 5:43 pm
Grandma had a long life. We can all hope for that.
no1what 11.03.08 at 5:45 pm
Do you think if you had Rush, Hannity and other Radio broadcasters give a shout out to PUMA’S tomorrow and ask for their vote for McCain they would listen or at least get excited about the possibility?
BigCatLover 11.03.08 at 5:45 pm
Murphy
I was crying in answer to your comment until I saw you had slipped ‘cry for the Red Sox’ in there.
mick 11.03.08 at 5:46 pm
Ladyhawkke #601 and Anna #629
I’m sorry for the confusion … if you read the snopes link it explains the issue better then the email that I posted.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/ballot/straightticket.asp
Asian4Hillary 11.03.08 at 5:47 pm
BillieJoe
October surprise is US, PUMA VOTERS! Haven’t you notice the media don’t mention PUMA anymore in any of their coverage. MSM did NOT mention anymore the GREAT DIVIDE within the Democratic Party. The Media also did NOT mention since July of this year, the Democratic Party have lost 1.9% of registered Democrats. You may ask yourself where the 1.9% registered democrats went? They’ve become PUMAS or independent voters.
The things I’ve mentioned above was no longer talked about by the media, they don’t want the American people to know July of this year report from the DNC they’ve lost 1.9% registered democrats.
What’s the effect of ACORN newly registered voters wherein more than half a million out of 1 million are frauds? Simple mathematics, the Democrat party is SHORT in numbers
PUMAS will change this election, it will go to McCain! The REAL GAME CHANGER in this election are members of PARTY UNITY MY ASS, PEOPLE UNITED MEANS ACTION!
BillieJo 11.03.08 at 5:48 pm
no1what
Do you think if you had Rush, Hannity and other Radio broadcasters give a shout out to PUMA’S tomorrow and ask for their vote for McCain they would listen or at least get excited about the possibility————-
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Are you new to the blog? PUMAs are well aware of what is going on with the vote and most don’t need to be convinced. The Republican base are the people that have McCain’s fate in their hands, if they stay home, he is finished. Get the Republican’s to the polls tomorrow.
murphy 11.03.08 at 5:49 pm
sorry bigcatlover #655,
I changed it — that wasnt very nice of me.
I’m not even really a fan.
tec1965 11.03.08 at 5:49 pm
good evening pumas ,has everyone seen oblablahs statements on bankrupting the coal industry
it couldnt come at a better time , maybee that will help us get that edge in ohio,pennsylvania and west virginia !!
that and the puma effect bwahhaaahahahah (WE ARE THE ONES NO ONE WAS EXPECTING)
GOD BLESS PUMA’S AND GOD BLESS AMERICA
Asian4Hillary 11.03.08 at 5:49 pm
BTW, the 1.9% decrease in registered democrats is over 2 million voters! I proudly declare I belong to the 1.9% registered Democrat who left the party!
JaJo8845 11.03.08 at 5:49 pm
Just watching Fox News. They had the head of the OH COAL Ind. on and he said BO’s stand on very high fees on coal emissions putting the Coal Ind. out of business would be very bad for the Ind. Said for every 1 job in the mine employee there are 10 or 11 spinoff jobs. Talked about OH, PA, WV. Virgina, Indaina, and Illinois alot of jobs. I say ” could be alot of VOTES.
BillieJo 11.03.08 at 5:49 pm
PUMAs were the June surprise…Republican’s needed one of their own too.
GeorgiaPuma 11.03.08 at 5:50 pm
This is very good Michelle Obama says BO is not ready to be President. Enjoy
http://chicagoagainstobama.wordpress.com/2008/11/03/please-listen-to-michelle-obamas-final-summation-on-why-here-husband-should-not-be-president/
LandiPUMA 11.03.08 at 5:50 pm
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It’s not too late to make phone calls!
http://www.JohnMcCain.com/PhoneBank
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ladyhawkke 11.03.08 at 5:50 pm
I just opened my mail. Hillary Clinton refunded the money I contributed to her campaign. When some Pumas were calling for a refund, I also called and left my name. Someone called me back and we spoke for 20″ and I never again mentioned I wanted a refund, I was willing to forget about it. I am really surprised. I am on a limited income, social security and I can use the money as I’ve spent several thousand on 4 sick cats. I feel sad about this but I think that Obama should be paying off her debt.
DancesWithPumas 11.03.08 at 5:51 pm
I guess when some one begins a comment with: “No offense”, it means something bound to offend is about to follow.
No offense but… seriously some of you are beginning to sound “whack”. I imagine the next thing we’ll be doing is examining facsimiles of the death certificate for signs of Photoshopping.
It’s the day before our elections and we have a litany of obama lies without disturbing the soul of a family member who has died. If Obama has a conscience at all, and he is lying about this, it will come back to him. He will draw the consequences of his actions unto himself. If not, there isn’t anyone can do about it.
Mrs. Dunham’s family and friends have my sympathies for their loss. May she rest in peace.
Okay. I’m done.
ontherocks 11.03.08 at 5:51 pm
no1what
Do you think if you had Rush, Hannity and other Radio broadcasters give a shout out to PUMA’S tomorrow and ask for their vote for McCain they would listen or at least get excited about the possibility————-
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I know a few people that are staying home tomorrow. I am doing my best to drag them to vote. They are hard-core repub. they don’t like McCain becuase is to far to the center for them. I keep telling it could be worse.
bluesgal 11.03.08 at 5:51 pm
Could someone tell me what Hannity talked about on his show, Hannity’s America, last night. I missed it. Did anything new happen?
1gypsy4mc 11.03.08 at 5:51 pm
Repub in San Diego Hello!! the thanks needs to go to Murphy – she started this and it just got bigger and bigger!!
JaJo8845 11.03.08 at 5:52 pm
Is the COAL thing the Oct/Nov surprise. The one BO would not have time to recover from.
BillieJo 11.03.08 at 5:52 pm
Asian4Hillary 11.03.08 at 5:49 pm
BTW, the 1.9% decrease in registered democrats is over 2 million voters! I proudly declare I belong to the 1.9% registered Democrat who left the party!
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Well, that’s almost 2 mil and I am of the second group that did not leave the Democratic party that they may be counting as a BO vote…on the lam in silence until tomorrow.
mick 11.03.08 at 5:53 pm
atypical #650
She was 86 yrs. old, it would not be uncommon for her to have suffered from Cancer and to have fallen down as a result of being frail from her illness. Her health record is really not the public’s business so we should just let it go.
Just saying.
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I thought BO’s grandmother had fallen/broken hip and was doing well after having come home from the hospital. When did they say cancer?
1gypsy4mc 11.03.08 at 5:54 pm
ladyhawkke You’ve been fightin the battle for a long time!! I remember seeing you on Ed’s place, then here! You’ve done really good – glad you got your $$ back too!
ladyhawkke 11.03.08 at 5:54 pm
#665 LandiPuma I’ve been trying all day, twice my computer froze and it took forever to reboot. And as you can see by my post above, I’m having horrible luck.
mick 11.03.08 at 5:54 pm
should be #651 not #650
no1what 11.03.08 at 5:54 pm
#658. I’m not talking about the PUMA’s on this blog. I’m talking about the Hillary voters who are not going to vote at all. I guess you could still consider them PUMA’s since they’re not voting for OB1.
BigCatLover 11.03.08 at 5:54 pm
Mick
Snopes seems to be talking about a ballot that has a ’stratight ticket’ voting option. I don’t ever remember seeing that in Ohio. I think there must be a straight democratic or a straight republican option that you select instead of any individual option. However if you select straight democratic, I’m sure that would include the top of the ticket. In other words, the problem they seem to be reporting here is not really a problem if your prez choice is the same of your straight ticket option. Am I wrong in states that have this option?
TexasTigress 11.03.08 at 5:55 pm
What Dances said
1gypsy4mc 11.03.08 at 5:56 pm
bluesgal They didn’t have Hannity’s America last nite – I wonder if he’s up to something for this evening!!
NewOrleansPuma 11.03.08 at 5:56 pm
#616PaddyO: You represent precisely why millions have rejected the usurped Democratic Party. Oxymoron comment of the month: level headed liberal Obama Democrat! There are no conspricacy theorists here; there are fact finders who have researched FRAUD Obama for many months Oh..and that echo you hear , Paddy O…? That is the breeze of the Puma fire blowing through and echoing within the emptiness of the space between your ears…Say goodbye to your Messiah..he is going down tomorrow…Paddy …O….!
turndownobama 11.03.08 at 5:56 pm
diva2 Obam said he is a strong believer in the law re: his aunt who illegally lives here.
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Is that the ONLY thing he’s said about his aunt? No offer to HELP her?
Asian4Hillary 11.03.08 at 5:56 pm
Ohhhh yesssss!!!!!! Here’s another one, since July it was also polled AT LEAST 16% of Democrats will stay at home.
goofsmom 11.03.08 at 5:56 pm
667 Dances
Ditto
ladyhawkke 11.03.08 at 5:56 pm
ontherocks I can’t believe some would stay home and not vote for their country. You are right, it will be worse. McCain is just right for me. I had no problem voting for him. I only have 2-3 friends who I can speak to about this, the rest are drinking the kool aid and I can’t understand it. It’s like the Jim Jones thing and all the lemmings following him.
BillieJo 11.03.08 at 5:56 pm
ontherocks 11.03.08 at 5:51 pm
no1what
Do you think if you had Rush, Hannity and other Radio broadcasters give a shout out to PUMA’S tomorrow and ask for their vote for McCain they would listen or at least get excited about the possibility————-
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I know a few people that are staying home tomorrow. I am doing my best to drag them to vote. They are hard-core repub. they don’t like McCain becuase is to far to the center for them. I keep telling it could be worse.
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Thank you for confirming what I had heard, hard-core repubs may stay at home and end up giving obie the Whitehouse!!!!! They can’t be replaced by PUMAs. PUMAs can only tip the scales.
Better tell Rush, and the other Republs to tell the base of their party to get their butts out to the flippin’ poles!
Dang it anyway….not made at you Repubs on the blog, mad at the Republican base that may let Obama win!!!!!!!!!!
no1what 11.03.08 at 5:57 pm
The only thing new Hannity talked about was the coal issue.
It was an ok show.
BillieJo 11.03.08 at 5:58 pm
ooooops, not MAD at…
1gypsy4mc 11.03.08 at 5:58 pm
BigCatLover I had an electronic ballot. But, sometimes when you do a straight ticket, if there is only a Dem in one of the spots, it will pick that one up, so it is best to go through each line. Hope I explained that one.
BrianH 11.03.08 at 5:59 pm
Actually, I think that Huff article is real softball stuff. I detect editing and omissions. E.g.: nothing said by ANYONE about Obama’s current associates and history?
kat in your hat 11.03.08 at 5:59 pm
Asian4Hillary: Thank you for posting that McCain campaign memo about exit polls.
KarenWI 11.03.08 at 6:00 pm
Hi fellow PUMA’s. I saw my nose surgeon today. He said that I have a slight bruise on the outside part of my left nostril and a big bruise in my throat (from the tube that went in). He said the 100 degree fever is normal and so is the sinus headache. He cleaned all the surgery gunk etc out so it’s supposed to be “clean” now, LOL.
I missed everything that happened today with one exception. I did see where BO did his little trick (like he did with Hillary) of giving “the finger”. You talk about childish. You just don’t DO that in public to people who deserve respect. You SAY “respect” them, and then you “show” lack of respect. Once again, your words are one thing and your action is totally different. Your action is that of an irresponsible child who throws a spunk on the floor when he doesn’t get his way.
One more thing here. Mom and I, after the dr appointment, went out to eat lunch and ran into a couple senior ladies she knew. Both of them asked if we had voted and mom assured them that we had voted absentee and voted for McCain. They got all upset and said that voting for McCain was taking away their social security!!! That really riled me. This is the exact same thing that Gore said and Kerry said.. did Bush take away their social security? NO, and he never said he would take away the s.s. from those who over age 50, and neither did McCain. However, this is the exact same line that seems to be used every election year against whatever repub is running. You’d think that having a repub in office 8 years, no matter how much they dislike him, would have at least proven THAT old myth to be false, but NO- it’s trotted out again, and once again the seniors are believing it! Mom told these ladies how bad Obama is, and they said “well he certainly can’t be as bas as the one we have now!” Talk about brainwashed! It left me really depressed to only talk to 2 people at the table, and both of them seniors who believed the garbage that Obama fed them.
One positive note. I just put a new member in my eye disease support group who lives in OH. I mentioned “the audio” to her and she didn’t know anything about it, so I suggested she go to Drudge or FoxNews and play it for everyone she knew. She is voting for McCain, and was doing so before I had called about her application to our eye group.
shampoovta 11.03.08 at 6:00 pm
2008 Presidential Race (All Bets Action)
11-04-08 8:00 AM
2008 Presidential Election Betting Odds
John McCain 5-1
Barack Obama 1-10
http://www.sportsbook.com/betting/2008+Presidential+Election-betting-odds-754.html
murphy 11.03.08 at 6:00 pm
Pounce posted.
take it upstairs!
BigCatLover 11.03.08 at 6:01 pm
Murphy #659
I type so slow that my comments are very brief and sometimes I don’t really say what I’m trying to say which was
‘cry for the Red sox’ made me laugh and then think boy, that Murphy is sly. I wasn’t offended at all.
KarenWI 11.03.08 at 6:01 pm
OH, by the way, a little something from our Fox Valley newspaper…. the GOP headquarters in Appleton WI is going to be giving away free lunch tomorrow for voters:
http://www.postcrescent.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2008811030416
mtsharpshooter 11.03.08 at 6:02 pm
(((((((((RE: #286 Rodham in Flag 11.03.08 at 1:47 pm)))))))
Are there any Spanish speaking Pumas here – I want to blog on all the Spanish Speaking Newspapers in swing States but don’t know how to say the following:
Please do not vote for Sen Obama – I need my job and YOU need electricity
Hidden Audio: Obama Tells SF Chronicle He Will Bankrupt Coal
Industry : http://newsbusters.org/blogs/p-j-gladnick/2008/11/02/hidden-audio-obama-tells-sf-chronicle-he-will-bankrupt-coal-industry
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I just now have had a chance to log in a catch up.
Para ustedes que creen que un voto para Obama ayudaría en mejorar sus vidas, pido que consideren lo que ha dicho sobre la industria del carbón (ver vínculo). Obama ha prometido que la política de su administración llevaría esta industria a la quiebra (causando que los costes de la energía en general subirían mucho). Consideren las implicaciones y, por favor, que no le apoyen en eso–a mí, me costaría el trabajo y para todos nosotros, nos subiría los precios de la electricidad.
For those of you who believe that a vote for Obama would improve your lives, please consider his statement about the coal industry (see link). Obama has promised that his administration would bankrupt this industry (causing electricity prices to increase greatly). Consider the implications and please do not support him in this–it would cost me my job, and would raise the cost of electricity for all of us.
goodcitizen 11.03.08 at 6:02 pm
Tomorrow is the day I will say it to myself, “Hillary, I’m with you forever, but will vote for McCain. Our sunshine day will come soon.”
BillieJo 11.03.08 at 6:02 pm
BrianH 11.03.08 at 5:59 pm
Actually, I think that Huff article is real softball stuff. I detect editing and omissions. E.g.: nothing said by ANYONE about Obama’s current associates and history?
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I posted twice and neither of them got though. I didn’t use any cuss words or nasty stuff either. Rats.
madazzhel 11.03.08 at 6:03 pm
Billie Jo and anyone else who is worrying,
McCain/Palin don’t need an October surprise. Their campaign reached out to PUMAs, women, Latinos, working class and Hillary supporters. They will win.
As Murphy says we (PUMAS) are the change no one was expecting.
Surprise
mick 11.03.08 at 6:05 pm
ontherocks #668
IF some idiot Repubs are the cause of an Oblahma win I’m going to have a HUGE freaking coonass fit! I don’t personally know anyone doing that … but I will be really pissed if Oblahma wins due to some f*cktard Repub that can’t get off their ass to stop someone who is so dangerous for our country.
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I know a few people that are staying home tomorrow. I am doing my best to drag them to vote. They are hard-core repub. they don’t like McCain becuase is to far to the center for them. I keep telling it could be worse.
TexasTigress 11.03.08 at 6:07 pm
Tomororow is Election Day . When you go to bed tonight , ask yourself if you did all you could to defeat Owtfdidthosepumasdo . You still have a few more hours to make an impact – one final push . God rest his grandmother . Forget the polls and the pundits . Shake it off , and get back to business !!!!!!
Email these people and tell them something .
jerry.revish@10tv.com; andrea.cambern@10tv.com; 19tips@woio.com; morningshow@wkyc.com; news@wkyc.com; 5tips@newsnet5.com; newsdirector@wlwt.com; BreakingNews@wcpo.com; news@nbc24.com; wtvg.webmaster@abc.com; news@WTOL.com; bwhitney@wkyc.com;
antifish 11.03.08 at 6:09 pm
Fox reporting McCain aides say he is ecstatic about how the polls have turned in the last 24 hours! Chins up Pumas!!!
tec1965 11.03.08 at 6:09 pm
WOOHOO MCAIM tied in ohio and nosouri according to the skewd polls ‘if they are calling it even we are going to have a blowout
tec1965 11.03.08 at 6:11 pm
oops missouri according to fox rasmussen poll in the last 24 hours
kevink 11.03.08 at 6:13 pm
This is hilarious
Nobama Cat
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHGtJ8-MKHw&feature=related
tec1965 11.03.08 at 6:14 pm
passed out almost all of my flyers last night and this morning ata local catholic church and this morning outside dunkin donuts ‘i have about 20 left then im going to print some new ones (not as nice as freddies though ):)
go pumas
slyt2 11.03.08 at 6:16 pm
Didn’t someone post on here the other day that Bill O is having something on his show tonight???? So people were suppose to send emails about stuff?(like I do everyday anyways lol).
catsarepumas 11.03.08 at 6:17 pm
If you live in the WVA, VA, PA, IL, KY, AL let the United Mine Workers of America union headquarters know the truth about Obama’s coal video.
Call the numbers listed at this link, ask them to list to the video.
http://www.umwa.org/index.php?q=content/umwa-offices
I live on the West Coast and it is too late for me to email them, they won’t get it in time.
atypical 11.03.08 at 6:24 pm
I just heard Fox saying that the Dems put Dem. Sec.s of State into key states as insurance against tight races. The SOS are in place to make decisions favorable to them.(For example that SOS in Ohio).
Oneof18million cracks... 11.03.08 at 6:27 pm
My family, extended family and in laws consist of 30 democrats who voted for Hillary in the primaries and have now cast their vote for McCain. My son works in the Detroit area and heard all his co-workers did the same. We all voted early. The lines have been enormously long for early voting.
My five yr old. grand daughter came in from school today and said, “Nonnie guess what, our school voted today and McCain won.” I asked, “Did you vote for McCain? She said, “Yes, my whole class did!” I said, “Give me five.”
We are doing our part in Ohio and Mich.
tec1965 11.03.08 at 6:31 pm
atypical 11.03.08 at 6:24 pm
that sounds about right why else would they allow same day registration and voting ? so they can rip off votes !!
tec1965 11.03.08 at 6:36 pm
i am so glad this election is almost over
all the people i talk too say they are voting for mcain !
why arent the polls talking about dems voting for mcain you just dont hear about it!are they really that jaded into beleiving a d beside your name on your voter registration card is a vote for obama ?man are they in for a surprise
JimtheRealtor 11.03.08 at 7:03 pm
Hello to all! I just officially joined this morning (& contributed) but what I want to say is, after seeing a question posted asking how many Puma’s are there (?) I asked the question and here is Murphy’s response. This # could hit the polls hard. Puma Ninjas (-:
Hi Jim, Welcome!
We estimate there are about 4 million Pumas out there who call themselves Pumas — many more who share our views but have not heard of us yet.
We shall see what tomorrow brings!
Great to have you on board, and thank you very much for your generous contribution.
Murphy.
Hope that helps if you are feeling alone.
De Oppresso Liber (free the oppressed)
JimtheRealtor 11.03.08 at 7:21 pm
#673 (BigCatLover)
Texas has a “straight party” option. You can check Republican or Democrat at the top of the ballot and you’re done. BadaBingBadaBomm! In & Out in a minute unless you want to itemize for propositions which I do. Still, it takes no time to complete.
jallen0347 11.03.08 at 7:49 pm
UPDATE: On trooper gate:Independent personel board
invetigator’s finding on Palin, there was no probable cause that Palin violated any ethics laws…..
rpmlady45 11.03.08 at 8:32 pm
You have done a great job pumas. The finale is tomorrow. A McCain-Palin Victory is on the horizon here in PA.
Thank you very much for you efforts. Heard the Puma name mentioned on Fox News this evening, but I guess they still think you will vote for BO. Can’t wait until tomorrow night as the country turns red and blues are crying.
Get out and vote McCain-Palin and keep this country balanced.
JimtheRealtor 11.03.08 at 8:37 pm
Just posted this as JimTheRealtor on Michael Barone’s blog at U.S. News & World Report.
How about the 4 million Pumas ready to pounce on the 4th?
http://www.pumapac.org
Surprise surprise, they should never have thrown Hillary under the bus and been so vile to Sarah Palin. Pumas Bite!
See you at the polls.
hillary2008 11.03.08 at 9:22 pm
Woa, just got a call from a friend who has not spoken to me since I told her I was not voting for Oblahblah. She was screaming at me for sending info to The Jewish Community Center. She accused me of inciting “Holocaust fear”. I couldn’t get a word in, she was crazy mad. It really freaked me out. I told her that I would talk to her when she calmed down, and that I had to make calls for McCain. She hung up.
NoHillaryNoVote 11.03.08 at 11:04 pm
I called myself watching a non-political show tonight “Boston Legal” – which in the end was in the tank for Obama and had a side story about the election. How can they get away with showing a show with a pro-Obama theme the night before the elections? The one lawyer for Obama made a loud detailed case, while the lawyer in the argument defending McCain made whimpering sounds with little comeback. And in the end they both voted for Obama. I was dumbfounded!
annnort 11.04.08 at 3:28 am
I also saw Hannity on FoxNews when he said Ayers dedicated his book to Sirhan Sirhan, among others. Let me start with Obama’s saying that Kennedy had brought his father to this country. I think that has been debunked. But after the Sirhan thing, it made me think about Jack Kennedy’s death. Many said they heard shots from 2 places. When they took Oswald to jail, Jack Ruby ran out and shot Oswald. Ruby looked like a mafia figure, but I never heard that he was really identified. The Warren Commission was a crock and the American people were kept in the dark. Then Martin Luther King was shot by a crazy white man. Sirhan Sirhan shot Bob Kennedy and is still in prison in CA. His mother says she thinks he did it because he was a “radical muslim.” (Weikapedia) Could these all be connected to the Weathermen? Could Obama’s mother and father be connected to the Weathermen?
I am too old and poor to pay for the research, but some of you young women may be interested in checking this out. Maybe another Ayers book may name Oswald, Ruby or the man who killed MLK. It may close a circle. We may need to check out alot of things fast if BO wins today. Pray for McCain/Palin. God Bless America!
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