Moving the Furniture Around

now now murphy we are just pumas…..some of us growl more then others …some of us purr more …but all those growlers do also purr,, and those that purr all the time eventually growl…..

WOW! This is beautiful Murphy!

Murphy:

I know you are checking, but a couple of names got lost on the list in the WANT TO JOIN LIST carry-over.

The site looks great murphy.
thanks for all of your work. i can truly appreciate all the hours you spend on this.

can anyone tell me how they do the other smiley’s beside the only one that i now know!!!!

lucky – NO !!!!!!!!!

ok here is the info

http://codex.wordpress.org/Using_Smilies#What_Text_Do_I_Type_to_Make_Smileys.3F

I am trying to join, but when I click enter with my info it says “incorrect security code entered” What is wrong?

Now that this dumb blonde is in the right place lol i will put the sofa down

Murphy: That’s a good idea! Unlike with Congress on the eligibilty issue, we can “police” ourselves here!

I liked your idea Luckyseven for a good Lawyer. Gretas hubby would be awesome

I don’t see where you can edit a comment!

I am now a free agent, but I’m not turning in my ballot until the fourth…

hi ((Hill)) ((Murphy)) all ((PUMAS))

Nice design, but it was VERY slow to load, at least the first time. Hope that doesn’t continue!

OK I am going to bed now, I’ll check back in the morning Jeremy to see your reply, cause really you got me curious posting a cutesy letter about Bush and Cheney quitting “so take that, America,” like America would be sorry to see them go, or something? I don’t think so, heck that’s the main reason our man McCain is up against such a brick wall of Obots (besides Obama buying the election), voters are fed up w/Bush / Cheney. For Sure.

Maybe I’m just tired…

((( Nite-nite PUMA’s )))

hi and I guess bye hillstheone

That was a great idea on a possible lawyer – John Croal? What’s his last name? Greta’s Husband? BillieJo will love that idea, I believe!

I like this and it posts better too

ok, why is wontbackdown’s name in blue and every else except murphy’s is in black?????

p.p.s Just came back to say, maybe Jeremy is a Republican. And will somebody please venture a comment on this because honestly I did not understand that post. Or Pookie’s response. But if Jeremy’s really a Republican then that would explain it all.

Obama Wants Social Security to Be a Welfare Plan

Imagine this: Barack Obama proposes a Social Security payroll tax cut for low earners. Workers earning up to $8,000 per year would receive back the full 6.2% employee share of the 12.4% total payroll tax, up to $500 per year. Workers earning over $8,000 would receive $500 each, with this credit phasing out for individuals earning between $75,000 and $85,000.

APThis tax cut would make an already progressive Social Security program even more redistributive. Under current law, a very low earner receives an inflation-adjusted return on his Social Security taxes of around 4%. That’s a good return, given that government bonds are projected to return less than 3% above inflation. A high-earning worker, on the other hand, receives only around a 1.5% rate of return. Under Sen. Obama’s proposal, returns for very low earners would rise to around 6% above inflation — about the same return as on stocks, except with none of the risk. Compounded over a lifetime’s contributions, the difference in the “deal” offered to workers of different earnings levels would be extreme.

While Social Security has always been progressive, many would say this plan goes too far and risks turning Social Security into a “welfare program.” Low earners receive more in benefits than they pay in taxes — meaning their “net tax” is already negative — and Mr. Obama’s plan would increase net subsidies from the program.

Moreover, this payroll tax cut plan would reduce Social Security’s tax revenues by around $710 billion over the next 10 years. If made permanent, the Obama tax cut would increase Social Security’s long-term deficit by almost 60% and push the program into insolvency in 2034, versus 2041 under current projections.

To fill the hole in Social Security’s finances, Mr. Obama would increase income taxes on high earners and pour that money into Social Security. This would be the first time that income tax revenues have been used to finance Social Security, which has always relied on its own dedicated payroll tax to differentiate itself from other government programs. Filling the gap with higher taxes on high earners would further increase Social Security’s progressivity, pushing it closer toward a welfare-program approach.

Now, you haven’t heard Mr. Obama describe anything like this plan. If you had, it’s likely you wouldn’t support it. But it’s almost exactly what his headline “tax cut” would do. The Obama campaign took the idea described above and made it much more complicated.

Under the plan, which he claims would cut taxes for 95% of Americans, provides an income tax credit worth 6.2% of earnings up to $8,000, for a maximum credit of $500 per worker or $1,000 per couple. The 6.2% figure is important, because it matches the employee share of the Social Security payroll tax. Because around a third of Americans currently pay no income taxes — a fraction that would rise to almost half under Mr. Obama’s plan, according to the Tax Policy Center — Mr. Obama’s tax credits would be refundable, meaning you could collect the credit even if you paid no income taxes.

While Mr. Obama calls his plan “Making Work Pay,” under standard economic assumptions his plan would actually discourage work for anyone earning over $8,000 per year. The tax credit itself would increase workers’ take-home pay, an “income effect” that reduces incentives to work. Moreover, for workers in the $75,000 to $85,000 income range, where the tax credit is phased out at five cents for each dollar of additional income, this would add five percentage points to their marginal tax rate.

So Mr. Obama has in essence proposed cutting Social Security taxes for low earners, which would shift the system toward a “welfare” approach and sharply increase its long-term deficit. To fill the funding gap, he will raise taxes on high earners and funnel the money into Social Security, making the system even more progressive and breaking a long tradition against funding Social Security with income taxes.

The complex way in which Mr. Obama structures and describes his plan would make it harder to administer than a straight payroll tax cut. But it is also more difficult for the typical American to understand. This may explain why he chose complexity over clarity.

Mr. Biggs is a resident scholar at the American Enterprise Institute in Washington, D.C. He blogs on Social Security policy at http://www.andrewgbiggs.blogspot.com.

Murphy – it is a huge post by Jeremy – please don’t bring it over here .

lol, guess someone should email dances and billiejo and let them know we were evicted from our home and moved in to some rick girls house……..lol

murphy – since you are our fearless leader , do you think that perhaps you should contact John Coale to see what direction we should be moving in?

they certainly should considering how much work we have done that they should have done for themselves……sorry couldn’t resist……..they will only love us for a little bit though,,,may they enjoy it while it last

They can find us for sure now! “Fuctard” is like a silent whistle to PUMAS, TEXAS.

invalidresponse – I concur . My getting in bed with the Republicans is strictly for the survival of our species ! I will immediatly shower after voting .

WBD – hey , we’re big cats , someone was going to pee on the carpet sooner or later ! just marking my territory !

admin….that is Murphy incognito….8)

Comic Relief-
“The Stronger Sex”
The CIA had an opening for an assassin. After all of
the background checks, interviews and testing were
done, there were three finalists, two men and a
woman.

For the final test, the CIA agents took one of the men
to a large metal door and handed him a gun. “We must
know that you will follow your instructions, no matter
what the circumstances. Inside of this room, you will
find your wife sitting in a chair. Kill Her!!!”

The man said, “You can’t be serious. I could never
shoot my wife.”

The agent said, “Then you’re not the right man for
this job.”
The second man was given the same instructions. He
took the gun and went into the room. All was quiet for
about five minutes. Then the man came out with tears
in his eyes. “I tried, but I can’t kill my wife.”
The agent said, “You don’t have what it takes. Take
your wife and go home.”

Finally, it was the woman’s turn. She was given the
same instructions, to kill her husband. She took the
gun and went into the room. Shots were heard, one shot
after another. They heard screaming, crashing, banging
on the walls. After a few minutes, all was quiet. The
door opened slowly and there stood the woman. She
wiped the sweat from her brow, and said “This gun is
loaded with blanks. I had to beat him to death with
the chair.”

hillstheone, hillarystheone, then admin, and Murphy – we are running out of creative ideas for our sockpuppet’s names !!!!

Puddles…I caught TT trying to spray her name on the wall..lol

Ahhhh it still has that new blog smell….!

Murphy- daylight savings is Nov. 2nd this year

I can’t stop laughing

Man, it didn’t take us long to break the place in . Poor lurkers – Someone post something smart sounding – QUICK !

ok, but Murphy where did you hide the liquor cabnet???

hillstheone;
Jeremy’s post might function as a suggestion that the Kool-Aid drinking started in the Dem party long before Obama came on the scene. Pelosi and Reid have been flop-flipping for a decade or so now, e.g.

You know how shocking it is to find that many/most people haven’t heard of ACORN and Ayers, etc.? Well, Reps are just as disgusted that few Dems know that Iraq is turning out very well, though Obama has been attempting to derail it and virtually promises to kick it in the ditch if elected. Which is making the Iraqi pols quite twitchy, by the way. The common factor, of course, is the MSM ‘gatekeeping’ which edits out whatever doesn’t match the DNC leadership’s Narrative™.

TexasTigress
So we are only pee-ons and can’t do a class action suit to find out if we are voting for a fraud or not?

just tryed it billiejo….and yep when you refresh it disconnects

kevink 10.26.08 at 2:42 am

Ahhhh it still has that new blog smell….!
————
Yea, no blood, sweat and tears from the old blog…smells like Fabreeze! Sniff, sniff….

The AOLStrawPoll has shown a big surge by Oblabla. He now has DC, so is up to 3 Electoral College seats!
Http://tinyurl.com/AOLStrawPoll

Hello Pumas

This is my first ever post. I thought since Murphy went to the trouble to update this blog, it was time for me to stop lurking and join the discussion.

Some background:

I have been here since the very first day. I came over from the old Hillary site (back in the good old days) and have visited here every day since. Just lurking.

Me? I am a white, male, lifelong Democrat. At least, I was a Democrat, until this election. I voted for Bill Clinton, twice, as my President, and for Hillary as my Senator. But, when the primary was stolen from Hillary using the most disgusting tactics I have witnessed in 25 years of politics: misogyny, caucus fraud, race-baiting, well, you folks know full well the sordid details…

Then and there, I stopped being a Democrat. I did not leave my party, my party left me.

I will not vote for Obama. And, although I like and respect John McCain and Sarah Palin, I cannot vote for that ticket either, because my views on some issues differ far too much from those that they hold.

So, I will vote third party, as a protest against the current Democratic leadership. And I will continue to vote likewise until I get my party back: the party of Roosevelt and Truman, and Kennedy, and Clinton.

Anyway, just thought I would finally post something, just to let all you fine PUMAS know that your voices are being heard, and all your hard work is being noticed. And please know, there are some of us MEN (gasp) out here that FULLY SUPPORT what this MOVEMENT is all about.

I will probably not post much here because, as a writer, I tend not to blog, choosing rather to concentrate my energies on longer form dramatic writing. But, I DO continue to spread the word. And I will try to help in the ways I can.

(Aside To Murphy: I sent a modest $ donation to the PAC by mail last month – I hope you recieved it in good order.)

So, as Election Day fast approaches, please do not lose heart, Brave Pumas, let us continue to fight this good fight, and let us remember the words of Will Shakespeare:

“Strong reasons make strong actions”.

HiHat Puma

PS – Sorry for the undo length of this missive.

BillieJo & Texas:

Well, that’s EXACTLY WHY WE WANT TO CHALLENGE IT IN A CLASS ACTION – like Berg says: If he or citizens, voters, and party members don’t have standing to insure the eligibility of a candidate, then who does?

Me got idea in ma head.

After tomorrow, starting Monday, how do you all feel about starting a Don’t Believe The Hype! campaign with flyers, and storming the entire internet, and making viral emails, and writing letters to the editor in battleground state newspapers?

I think we need to tell people to not believe the Obama voter suppression techniques (MSM bias, polls, massive amounts of advertisements and TV buy in time).

Let’s tell everyone:
Don’t fall for Obama’s propaganda machine!
Don’t Get Suckered by Obama-Media!
Don’t Believe the Hype!
Shun Obama’s psychological warfare!
The Media. The Polls. The LIES!!
Don’t be fooled! Don’t be brainwashed!
GET OUT AND VOTE!

etc etc..

Thanks invalidresponse
When i saw all those names being added to the list I said. I’ve got to find a way in there…I emailed Murphy and VOILA by some samll miracle she changed the format and here I AM… As I said, I’ve been been trying for months to post and haven’t been able to.

Welcome HiHat….wow long time to be a lurker….great that you are finding a voice now…..Keep it up!!!!

well over60,,,,you waited a long time to talk,scream, laugh, cry, yell, etc etc with us….glad you hung in there!!!

WAIT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Kierkegaard was Danish ????
Now I’m hungry .

Come on lurkers…you know you wannnnnnnnnnnnt to……..it’s easy…..give it a shot…..

Testing one two three……

Smoking ! Zobgy Obama leads by 5

kat in your hat

“Death Threats Sent to Pollster
I tossed it to Drudge…
Yikes, now they have bozo at 8% over McPalin………..
I am going to bed before I get depressed.
Good night PUMAs.

night murphy…….

(ok play time puma’s the big cat is away)

WBD – the thing that really GETS to me is , I KNOW someone knows the truth !!!!! Howie , Feinstein , Pelotard , probably ALL of them , and they are a disgrace and need to be taken to task ( in court of course) !!!!!

THAT’S THE OTHER “STORY” THAT HAS COME OUT OF ALL OF THIS! A BIG WTF IS THAT? AND, HOW IN THE HELL DID CONGRESS MANAGE TO DO THAT?

#137
Not of sleep, at least

Thanks texasti

HOW IN THE HELL DID WE MANAGE TO ALLOW IT! AMERICA SLEPT THROUGH BUSH-CHENY! WE ARE NOT ASLEEP ANYMORE! THAT’S THEIR BIGGEST PROBLEM! WE ARE AWAKE – AND THE BARACK OBAMA CONSTITUTIONAL FRAUD ON AMERICAN VOTERS IS NOT GOING DOWN PENNSYLVANIA AVENUE WITHOUT A FIGHT!

invalid – I have standing !!!!!!!!! I have been INJURED ! My candidate was denied the nomination by a fraud and a cheat and a liar ! My vote was stolen , and I want justice !!!!!!! If they continue to say we don’t have standing , we might just have to go to DC and SIT on their steps for awhile !!!!

I agree TT …we should have standing….just looking for loopholes to get around judges that don’t want to do their jobs.

night hat

invalid – I know – I just wanted to show some righteous outrage like the cool cats do

night wbd

Hi Hat and Kibby !
Kibby if you think there’s not a lot going on it Tx. wait till you meet jennifer !!!!!!!!!!!

We don’t even try to “get around Judges that don’t want to do their jobs” – we make a “Constitutional” spectacle out of their BLATANT, UNCONSTITUTIONAL RULINGS AGAINST EVERY AMERICAN CITIZEN, VOTER, PARTY MEMBER IN THIS COUNTRY!

lol,,,,,,I thought you went to bed……your going to make TT tell you 6 times aren’t you???

Night TT

Thanks for the welcome IVR – the St Louis Today (newspaper) forum has a VERY active current affairs/political forum with folks from all over. McCain/Palin pretty much have to win MO – it’s where I think I can do the most good. I posted there about 6 hours a day two years ago to help pass the stem cell bill in MO. Time for bed – catch you all later.

I’m going. Goodnight everyone! This “standing” ruling is all good! Wait and see.

Goodnight Texas! Don’t let the snakes bite!

Hey don’t turn the ligt off on me i will trip overa tail

yes it is. had to move the furniture and all

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cH7kT4xwddg&eurl=http://larrysinclair-0926.blogspot.com/

ok checking it out

Early morning Puma crew!
love the new den–clean and legible with lots of playroom for looping visuals. Great job.

ALERT: You need to be aware though that the Ads by Google: “Sponsored Links” at bottom RT area of this new pg. had a “Barack Obama Merchandise, buy Obama Tees, Stickers, etc Show your Support” link. EEEEEEEEEGads! Better see what you can do about those Obot-sneakers.

Wow Murphy, Love the our new den! Good Morning everyone. I am going out on my early morning flyer distribution prowl. I will have to pick up more ink today! Kodak loves me, I am keeping them in business
There is so much great stuff in the AC, I am like a kid in a candy store. Thanks Dances for keeping it all together, and thanks everyone who contributes. We are going to do this….just keep at it. I am running into more and more closet Puma’s than I ever anticipated, so I know we are getting the message out.

happy birthday Hillary!!!

Hey Murphy, Am I supposed to change the RSS feed to the new one? I tried but got an error, said there was a problem loading. Is just me?

Obama already wrote his acceptance speech..
“We just learned from a newspaper today that Sen. Obama’s inaugural address is already written,” he said, to loud booing. “I want him to save that manuscript and donate it to the Smithsonian. They can put it right next to the Chicago paper that said “Dewey defeats Truman.’ There’s 10 days left in this election.”

http://www.lcsun-news.com/ci_10818293

Anchor Woman Dies..
http://www.news10.net/news/national/story.aspx?storyid=49681

You must read this..
http://cannonfire.blogspot.com/

Everyone the new site would NOT let me log on as 1Lucky Lady…instead it put me back to the old screen name So Lucky Lady = 1 Lucky Lady

Lady Like = 1 Lucky Lady

Mulligan’s Food and Spirits in Marietta, Georgia posted more racially charged words on the big marquis..The letters on the sign read,

“Obama. Kinda like a caramel dipped Jimmy Carter. Spineless

http://www.examiner.com/x-1163-Atlanta-Public-Policy-Examiner~y2008m10d6-Racism-in-the-shadow-of-the-Big-Chicken

You Know….

as far as the API story goes….they stated MO said to the effect….”There is no law that will stop her husband from being elected as POTUS…” Well maybe she already knew about citizens not being able to sue the government……

I am going to take a few moments to PRAY TO GOD FOR MY THOUGHTS ABOUT BO+ MO+ ENTOURAGE….BECAUSE THEY ARE VERY VERY EVIL AT THIS MOMENT!

Some questions you may have just days before the election-
http://freep.com/article/20081026/NEWS15/810260450/0/BLOG19

Why am I in moderation all the time. Is Big Sister Watching Me?

Snow needs help–Is anyone available??

I like the new home!
Mock Palin, not Obama this Halloween, asks Columbus Dispatcher
http://edgeoforever.wordpress.com/2008/10/26/obama-halloween-racist-palin-mocking-lotsa-fun/

Good morning all and a welcome to the new puma. Happy Birthday to Sen. Hillary Clinton. Wishing her a wonderfilled year of happy surprises.

Well! This is different! Am I in the right place?

We have 2 PUMAs in the trouble now.

I’M HERE! It works! Logout out on the previous blog and re-enter your password! I’m out of the dungeon, AMEN!

Good Morning Pumas,

WOW, a lot has been going on while I was busy. Great new look!

bythelake

I never changed my original password full of #@&*%$ things lol…but I did save it! Gotta love it….makes me think I’m full of….FUN!

Good morning everyone!
Great new site, Murphy! Regarding the law suit has anyone considered checking with Heidi Li about this. She is an attorney and legal scholar.

<b<TexasTigress I think he requested a new one…..but he’s lost!!

Testing… had trouble with my password.

Gyps – ugh , and our male puma is probably not going to stop for directions !!!!!!!!!! lol

Good Morning and I love this new venue! Hope all are well… Just a personal update… bragging a bit… got to pick out my engagement ring yesterday… yahoo!!! will be getting it on Wednesday … it needs to be resized. And we have our wedding and reception play all set too… now for the invitations and dress and flowers and… and… and???

“You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift.
You cannot help small men by tearing down big men.
You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong.
You cannot lift the wage-earner by pulling down the wage-payer.
You cannot help the poor man by destroying the rich.
You cannot keep out of trouble by spending more than your income.
You cannot further the brotherhood of man by inciting class hatred.
You cannot establish security on borrowed money.
You cannot build character and courage by taking away men’s initiative
and independence.
You cannot help men permanently by doing for them what they could
and should do for themselves.”

by: William Boetcker
(1873-1962) German-born Presbyterian clergyman
Date: 1916
Source: often falsely attributed to Abraham Lincoln:
http://www.cincinnatiskeptics.org/blurbs/lincoln-cannots.html

Categories: Character, Communism, Diversity, Economics, Equality, Independence, Money, Prosperity, Reason, Responsibility, Socialism, Taxation, Welfare, Tax

Please sign the petition and pass it on – post it EVERYWHERE !
WE can still FIGHT FOR OUR RIGHT (standing) TO QUESTION CANDIDATES IN A COURT OF LAW !!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.rallycongress.com/voterid/1351/voters-demand-/

New York Post There’s a good breakdown of the two candidates concerning how much $$ they’ve received and where it went. It’s a good picture!!

http://www.nypost.com/seven/10262008/news/politics/hey__big_spenders_135364.htm

#231 Zephyr… I’m not getting that ad… probably because I have my anti-spyware set to remove adware?

OK….thanks KarenWI….it comes up on mine under Sponsored Links.I certainly can ignore it…no problem doing that!

TexasT- signed the petition and sent letters to Congress. Thanks, I passed it on!

Im pushing this hard… remember we did get them to take out acorn… even if they hid it in the bill … but you can’t hide a real BC :

Stop the Obama Constitutional Crisis
Sign the Petition : 34,988 Letters and Emails Sent So Far:
http://www.rallycongress.com/constitutional-qualification/1244/stop-obama-constitutional-crisis/

Congratulations and best wishes!

bmw60 and (other half)
sitting in a tree (or on a bench lol)
k.i.s.s.i.n.g. (or hugging, holding hands, etc.)
first comes love, then comes marriage
then comes a PUMA on election day!

(I know it doesn’t rhyme)

#234 bmw60
that is just great
it should be used as a SLOGAN, A MOTTO
maybe it should be send to MCCAIN & FOX
INGENIOUS & VERY INTELLIGENT

http://www.therightsideoflife.com/?p=22

Concerned Citizens Should Pursue Legal Action in Their Respective States
This “Music Producer” person seems to have things down pretty good (via a comment from my earlier post on this topic):

This was posted this past week in the comment section of http://www.obamacrimes.com:

The Virginia lawsuit (actually a Petition for Writ of Mandamus) was filed today. Ironically, we almost missed filing and serving due to the thousands of people downtown today to see Obama speak. In even better news, the Honorable Walter W. Stout III, the chief judge, granted our motion for an emergency hearing and set a briefing schedule. We were required to serve the Board of Elections a copy of the schedule today (which we did). We must file our brief and all supporting evidence on Friday. The Board of Elections has until the 28th to file a response. We may file a reply on the 29th and the hearing will be held on the 30th at 1:30p.m.
We did send copies of the suit and orders to the local media, but unlike some people, we are more interested in pursuing the legal battle, not whoring ourselves out to the media. For that same reason we are not setting up a website or soliciting donations.
We will let you know how things progress.

While your mileage may vary, if you’re so inclined or know of someone who’s willing to file expeditiously, this could be the way to get Obama’s eligibility taken care of.

-Phil

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4 Responses to “Concerned Citizens Should Pursue Legal Action in Their Respective States”
1Music Producer
October 25th, 2008 16:50
For those who have been perusing the articles I have posted over the past several days, and who possibly read that the Pennsylvania court case, Berg v. Obama et al, was dismissed, here’s my quick, uneducated take on it:

The Honorable R. Barclay Surrick’s ruling portends, in my opinion, the coming of a true Constitutional crisis. Judge Surrick didn’t actually rule on any of the merits of the case; rather, that the plaintiff (former PA Deputy Attorney General/lifelong democrat) simply did not have “standing” to present the case.

At issue in the “standing” verdict, I see two main points: that no voter can challenge a federal election in federal court, simply because he is a voter (along the same logic that no taxpayer can sue the federal government by virtue of his “taxpayer-ness”).

The other mitigating factor in the dismissal is the issue of “injury-in-fact.” The plaintiff has to be able to demonstrate a real and measurable injury. The fact is, Obama is only “running” for office; whereas, the constitution merely states that someone cannot “hold” the office of President if the rules of eligibity are not met. Theoretically, nodoby has sustained actual injury if there is but a chance the injury could occur.

My very brief response to these two arguments is that, if a voter has “no standing” in matters pertaining to a federal election, then the notion of “Government of the people, by the people, and for the people” actually has little meaning (if “the people” truly have no voice); and shouldn’t the act of running for office suffice as intent to hold the office? That kind of thinking seems to necessarily preclude any preventative dynamics in law (we can’t adjudicate attempted felons—only those who are successful with their crimes).

But, these brief conclusions lead me to a much deeper question, for which I believe there are two possible answers. Were the framers of our Constitution remiss in their lack of defining who has “standing” in cases of presidential election fraud (since the Constitution, while defining the qualifications of the POTUS, mentions nowhere who has the right to challenge (on a federal level) the qualifications of someone who aspires to that office?

First, our Constitution begins, “We the people . . .” I think it should be fairly easily discerned that, when no federal or state body is charged with authority over or duty for a specific aspect of the Constitution, the framers were implying that it would remain with those on whose behalf the document was framed (we the people). As a voting citizen, this is part of Judge Surrick’s decision with which I must heartily disagree. I am a bona fide member of “we the people.”

However (and this is just a personal inclination), I believe it is wholly possible that our forefathers never even considered such a fraud even to be plausible—that someone, who either has not or cannot show proof of eligibility, would be able to travel this far down the campaign trail. And it is that belief that causes me, not just a little concern and patriotic anger, but also a firm conviction that this is no small “loophole” in our Constituion—one that should be tied and tightened in short order.

While the PA case will likely be appealed—probably to the Supreme Court, take note that there are presently eight known similar cases that have been filed in other state courts (not federal court, as the PA case was). This may be the more proper avenue anyway, since election day actually boils down to the several states all holding their elections on the same day. And, state courts don’t have the same requirement of proving “standing” that the federal courts have.

In those state cases, since each state’s Secretary of State is charged with verifying the eligibility of all candidates on the ballot (in some states it is the Board of Elections), they are being challenged to supply proof that that verification has occurred by producing certified copies of Sen. Obama’s “vault” birth certificate (the long form on file in Hawaii—not the more-easily-obtained “certification of live birth” that can be supplied by the state without the person actually having been born there—yes, another loophole). The suits charge that, if the documents have not or cannot be produced, the candidate must be removed from that state’s ballots.

So, this battle is not yet over; expect to see a lot more about it in the coming days. And, the deadline is not actually Nov.4 (although it would be nice for this to be settled before then) because that’s not the day when the POTUS is actually elected. The Meeting of the Electors occurs this year on December 15, and is to be confirmed by both houses of Congress on January 6. It is my understanding that, until that time, either candidate could be disqualified because of ineligibility or fraud.

In conclusion, I would just like to echo the question that has already been asked so many times,

“Sen. Obama, why not just produce the documents that prove your eligibility, and save everyone all this time and hassle? What are you hiding?”

Just my two cents’ worth.

Dean Haskins

2Phil
October 25th, 2008 21:30
Dean,

I’m probably going to more fully flesh this out in another post, but I did want to briefly comment on your comment.

I, too, believe that there should be a “redress of grievances” regarding any issue in the US Constitution. What I think judge Surrick was getting at with his ruling is that we, the People, must make request to the Legislative branch to further pursue this course of action.

There are two reasons why this is so tough:

1. We are not a federal republic; we are a constitutional republic made up of several States. As such, it is up to each State, primarily, and Congress (perhaps secondarily) to carry the onus of responsibility for making sure candidates for elected office are officially vetted;

2. Taking this through the federal level, as Berg is doing, will ultimately, in my opinion, become all for naught, as the Third Circuit isn’t going to overturn the appeal and the SCOTUS probably won’t hear it, because it’s not under their jurisdiction to determine this issue (instead, it’s Congress’s, at the federal level).

In the court of public opinion, however, our respective political parties and the press, ideally, would have already vetted all candidates. In the past, they probably would have.

-Phil

3Music Producer
October 25th, 2008 22:39
Phil,
It seems that something as massively consequential as placing someone in the oval office who, constitutionally is not allowed to be there, would cause some metaphorical trigger to be pulled SOMEWHERE–whether it be executive, legislative, or judicial. I just cannot believe that we are so constitutionally helpless as to have no other redress than sticking our thumbs up our butts and saying, “There’s nothing anybody can do about this.”
Hopefully, the state filings will be just that trigger.
I so wish that, in the final debate, McCain would have reached in his back pocket, pulled out his birth certificate, and said, “Ya got one of these?”

4Phil
October 25th, 2008 22:49
Dean,

I, too, place a lot of hope in the State-based suits being generated across the fruited plain. And, to think that all of this could be circumvented if Mr. Obama would simply produce the paper.

But, yes — hopefully we can all generate enough of a fervor among the people to where it would become practically infeasible for the dear Senator to not show his eligibility.

-Phil

The new site looks great and loads fast! Love it!!

Just a thought: Have any of the lawsuits tried to file in Texas? I can’t imagine it would hit as much “blue” tape there! Va is a pretty good place to file as well.

Berg Case Court Records

I have a PACER id to access the Berg Case directly. There are two strange things about the case records. (1) The Judge’s Orders are not entered into the Docket and (2) The links to the actual court documents has been disabeled. They had been imbedded in the docket. Here is a extract of the last few docket entries:

Date Filed # Docket Text
10/22/2008 27 MOTION for Summary Judgment filed by PHILIP J. BERG.Brief in support thereof and Certificate of Service. (Attachments: # Exhibit, # Exhibit, # Exhibit, # Exhibit)(BERG, PHILIP) (Entered: 10/22/2008)
10/22/2008 26 MOTION for Order for Expedited Ruling, Hearing and/or Resolution of Plaintiff’s Motion for Summary Judgment filed by PHILIP J. BERG.Certificate of Service.(BERG, PHILIP) (Entered: 10/22/2008)
10/21/2008 25 MOTION for Order Deeming Requests for Admissions Admitted filed by PHILIP J. BERG.Certificate of Service. (Attachments: # Exhibit, # Exhibit, # Exhibit, # Exhibit)(BERG, PHILIP) (Entered: 10/21/2008)
10/21/2008 24 MOTION to Dismiss for Lack of Jurisdiction filed by THE FEDERAL ELECTION COMMISSION.Memorandum. (Attachments: # Memorandum of Law)(STREETER, BENJAMIN) (Entered: 10/21/2008)

lady like – for starters ,sign these 2 petitions
http://www.rallycongress.com/constitutional-qualification/1244/stop-obama-constitutional-crisis/

http://www.rallycongress.com/voterid/1351/voters-demand-/

And e-mail them to your family and friends !

Did any of you see invalidresponses’ idea? Do you know a third party candidate we could prowl?

invalidresponse 10.26.08 at 3:15 am

Some said one an earlier post that a third party canidate would have standing in the law suit……do I smell a prowl in puma land???????

Lizben08- Ya , know , That Cynthia McKinney just might do it … Maybe someone should ask her …

Hello! I happen to be a long time lurker. Did sign up a while ago but still stayed a lurker. I’ve read and watched many of the topics. I’ve watched peoples reactions when others didn’t agree..a few dipped to heated discussions but unless I missed it they did not become hateful as some other sites tend to do.

I have been a Republican most of my registered adult life. That does not mean that I have always voted for Republicans – just that I firmly believe that government is not the best way to do things. IE – I believe in small government and for them to keep out of my life. So…I’m one of the fiscal conservative and social moderate types.

I gather lots of information from different websites and to be honest for the longest times I was totally disgusted with Democrats. Their websites tended to be full of vile hatred toward anyone that disagreed with them (ie that would be me ..I registered Republican) – so..never registered to their sites. That is not to say I did not see some nastiness on Republican sites but I did not see, as often, the foaming at the mouth rabid hatred.

So…here I am on a PUMA website posting my first comment. Why you might ask? The reason why is there was a very good chance I would have voted for Hillary Clinton.

I have watched the Democrats turn into extreme left leaning party. Yet here..I have found the Democrats of old. The good ones. From what I have read here, you are as disgusted with your party being high jacked to the extreme left leaners as I was with the Republicans being high jacked by the extreme right leaners.

So, I may post more often…I don’t know but I seriously doubt I have been the only lurker here. Win or lose this election – although I am very much for McCain over Obama – I hope that you stay active. There is a lot of clean up that must be done to our government.

For a side note – I will probably be switching to a independent after this election. According to my husband, I haven’t been a ‘true’ Republican for a long time.

In George Washington’s Farewell Address to the people, he warned against partisanship, sectionalism and involvement in foreign wars. I agree with him. He was a wise man. I am tired of the Democrats and the Republican politicians using partisanship for votes. I want to vote FOR a leader..not casting a vote AGAINST the other guy because I have a choice of picking who I think is the lesser for two evils.

Head clunker…what doe all that mean????

gojoyknocks- You are right, money talks, or the lack thereof. If we take away donations, boycott advertisers, boycott products it works. Look at we have done already in that area. msn ratings dropped, oprah ratings dropped, we still have much work to do and many ways to do it. go to the ACTION CENTER…repeat actions already taken, keep it up show them we will not go away. WE ARE JUST BEGINNING.

I say we do more prowls, lets send PUMA CASH to everyone again, obiteme, dnc, pelosi, howie everyone we can think of maybe with a flyer saying WE HAVE NOT FORGOT…WE WILL NOT FORGET….THE PUMA’S ARE STILL TRACKING YOU.

Good Mornin Puma Warriors……Wow…love the new place!!!!
LOL….I remembered to wipe my feet before I came in the door…don’t want to mess up the new carpet…

…and Murphy…I love the new blue drapes in your window!!!
…and ..and Wow…I love the view from here too….I’ll betcha..on a clear day…we can see Obie losing in in November!!

Thank you Murphy and brave Pumas for all that you do!!
Pumas Rock!!!!!

off to do errands …will bbl….for sure!!

I have to go to work….MURPHY, please give anyone my email address who needs help for legal work.

PUMA ALERT PUMA ALERT….

This is the real deal. this is what we have been waiting for. WE NEED TO GET ORGANIZED around this S. Court fight NOW. Let’s make a list–EVERYONE START Calling everyone you know…we need a lot of money and names and we are 2 years behind and 1/2 billion dollars late.

There is a war going on in this country right now….it is us vs. them!

hi yall…

hey murphy u look great in teal!!!!!

#269 prplvette85… I was thinking if BO solicited funds knowing he was ineligible it would be fraud. Maybe a way to force him to produce a birth certificate.

llololololol

one of the pumas told murphy she likes her new blue drapes…lololol

prplvette85 251 Thanks for that info about the voting machines…..that is very important info….I will send that out to everyone I know and ask them to pass it on. I became an Independent in June…..but all Dems should have this info..ASAP.
Will get right on this as soon as I get back from the pharmacy.
bbl.

Hi Murphy,

I like our new house. You did a great job!

Yesterday, we took 30 seniors from the Asian community to vote. Prior to that, we discussed the two presidential candidates and what each one would bring to the White House. Some of the seniors are still actively working helping their families in their small businesses. Not all are making $250,000 but there are a few. What I found out after they voted, 50% were Independents, 20% were Republicans and the remaining 30% were Democrats. All 15 Independents said they voted for McCain, 6 Republicans vote for McCain and 6 of the 9 Democrats also voted for McCain. The Independent voters were already leaning toward McCain before I talked to them but help sealed the deal afterward.

I will tell you this though that a national PAC, 80-20, has endorsed Obama and are working very hard to deliver bloc votes for him. This is a very powerful Asian American PAC with over 600,000 members. However, once they have endorsed a candidate, they are able to mobilize a big bloc of their members (Democrats, Republicans & Independents) along with their families and friends to deliver the 80% hence 80-20. What it means is that each party will have its base of 20%. It’s the remaining 80% that the PAC have to mobilize and they have been very successful in the past. The Asian American votes have been growing steadily since the 2000 election. 80-20 was successful in delivering bloc votes for Hillary during the California primary. Here in Houston our local 80-20 PAC does not participate in presidential election, so it’s kind of hard to deliver a bloc vote of 80% to either candidate. From the feedback in the community, it appears that Asian Americans are going for McCain/Palin in Houston and throughout Texas.

We are all praying very hard for a McCain/Palin win.

Is anyone watching Meet the Press? Tom Brokaw is trying to psych McCain out with these stupid polls.

How many PUMAs have been polled on any of these issues? I’d like to know, since Brokaw is insisting that these Polls are indicative of something. Seems like they’re indicative of only of the MSM prejudice…

Go Puma Go>>>>>>>

EXCELLENT information…basically, IF this lawsuit was dismissed for lack of standing then we all are under a mistaken impression that we are a DEMOCRACY!

prplvette

yea i saw that…they arent use to tough questions hopefully it will damage them in florida

Saul Alinsky, Obama — the game plan that is being used on you
Obama is using Saul Alinsky’s methods on you and your children.
Indeed, Alinsky believed in sacrificing ethics and morals for the great cause. “Ethical standards must be elastic to stretch with the times,” Alinsky wrote in his last book, “Rules for Radicals,” adding that “all values are relative in a world of political relativity.”

Published a year before Alinsky’s death in 1972, “Rules for Radicals” includes a dedication in which he gives “an over-the-shoulder acknowledgment to the very first radical . . . who rebelled against the establishment and did it so
effectively that he at least won his own kingdom – Lucifer.”
Alinsky’s writings even explain what often seems like Obama’s oversized ego. In New Hampshire in January, for example, the senator told an audience that “a beam of light will come down upon you, you will experience an epiphany . . . and you will suddenly realize that you must go to the polls and vote for
Obama.”

It was a bizarre spectacle, but consider that Alinsky believed that “anyone who is working against the haves is always facing odds, and in many cases heavy odds. If he or she does not have that complete self-confidence (or call it ego) that he can win, then the battle is lost before it is even begun.”

More information from IBD

http://www.ibdeditorial.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=306457496204115

ooooooooooops….. what happened to the link?

Is anyone watching Meet the Press? All Brokaw can quote are these stupid polls.

When Brokaw asked about Colin Powell’s endorsement of BO, Mac came back with the fact that 5 secretary of states endorsed him along with 200 generals…wonder why the MSM doens’t bring that up…

JOe Biden angered by questions in Florida interview!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQXcImQfubM

Wfvtv Barbara West did the interview, she was “too tough” on Biden. She asked why he shouldn’t be labeled as a marxist! Sounds like a prowl to me….Puma love

Wow – Murphy – I like this site – even tho I had to scramble to find my password – wanted me to log in -

My rag paper endorsed the pimp today with reservations – WTF does that mean? If you have reservations pick the other guy – I’m seriously considering cancelling my subscription which I’ve had for over 20 years – the paper never published any letters that I sent – hasn’t done any vetting or investigation of the pimp, did some half hearted stories about ACORN which is also big in Minnesota too (especially certain areas of the Twin Cities) – I just don’t get it.

Is there something special about us PUMAS ( )that we didn’t drink the koolaid or become hypotised by the pimp or swallow any of the crap that is being spewed by him and all of the Democratic party? I’m still trying to figure out what happened? I just don’t understand how these supposedly intelligent people are all sounding like pod people? Are we the aliens??

TESTING . . .

here is the link. Fox news said that the interview is on WFT website, but I cannot find it…any help someone?
http://www.wftv.com/elections/index.html

Murphy, I cant find the stairs….

I suggest today, October 26th, we wish Hillary a happy birthday and appeal to her to put country over party to save America from Obama’s far left policies (far left is as bad as far right to me a Democrat for McCain). She knows as well as I do how incredibly dangerous they will be. So, Happy Birthday Hillary! I hope you joy, happiness and health throughout the course of your life. Unfortunately, I cannot support you in backing Obama. As a former Hillary supporter I am proud to say I now support McCain/Palin- 08. The reason is primarily because the Democratic Party has changed so much since the start of the primary season in 2007 and all the “boys” ganged up to beat you, they no longer represent my ideas/ideals/beliefs as a “US” citizen. Admittedly, the Republican Party does not represent all of them either, but I can honestly say Senator McCain and Sarah Palin do not scare me and Obama/Biden really scares the heck out of me. So, for now and the foreseeable future, I will be re-registering as an Independent and voting Republican for President. I pray that America see’s the light before November 4th.

prplvette85

Here’s the EASIEST URL for you to watch the video, lets put it this way – Obiden was ticked off he was asked serious questions!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQXcImQfubM

NObama/Obiden don’t like it when reporters or Joe the Plumber ask them serious questions. They approve all questions that praises them, like DA MESSIAH, NObiden is not alcoholic!

I agree Happy Birthday Hillary!! Please save our country. Obama Pelosi and Reid so dangerous. Look at commentator got slapped for asking questions. Joe the plumber got smucked .They find stuff on his but not on Obama being elagable to be pres??

utahpuma David Archbol Steve E Dallas

I agree with what Steve Dallas said. We really need a super professional approach. I only wish all this started a year ago. But we do possibly have new evidence coming out soon. The MO tape and the tape of the Grandma in Kenya. Of course I still wait to believe. I will believe when I hear it come out publicly.

Nothing is more important at this time then having a good legal President of USA. After this election I hope the loopholes are closed.

hello! like the new layout.

where is the upstairs…don’t see anything.

to get upstairs , first go to the ‘home’ section .

Hi pumas
Hope I made it to the new den.

Holy cripes PUMAS – it’s snowing here……………. Minneapolis………….. it’s too early………..looks more like heavy sleet…….stop now…….darn, i’m not the messiah so can’t stop it, guess I’ll have to get used to the fact that it is almost the end of October and I remember the Halloween blizzard that happened in 1992..

It will clear up and stop but boy……just stepped out on the deck and the wind is cold……….brrrrrrrrrrrr..you PUMAs in the warm states – enjoy…………..

Why do I continue to live here?

Good morning, my PUMA family!! I am hours away from voting!! I am planning to vote today, Nov 4 seems far!!lol, and I want to feel that I have done something for my country!! I hope I won’t meet any Obytrons there, ’cause I am not in the mood for them!! I have even stopped going to Huffo, they give me the creeps and make my stomach sick!!
We should keep working even after election day, even after McCain wins!! to make sure that never again someone like O gets this close to get elected!1 we must do something, and I guess it is time to create a new democratic party, the current one is too corrupted and is not what it was meant to serve for when it was established!!

This morning the Salt Lake Tribune quotes Hillary (who was here yesterday) saying that although McCain will probably take Utah this election, Obama will take the state in 2012 for his second term. I nearly choked on my coffee.

John the Populist

By Salena Zito
TRIBUNE-REVIEW
Sunday, October 26, 2008

Share the wealth.

Those three words should send shudders down the spine of any hardworking, over-taxed, get-government-out-of-my-pocketbook American.

Yet the image and rhetoric of Barack Obama has buried his progressive government-knows-best philosophy.

Columnist Orson Scott Card, himself a Democrat, put it in perspective last week when he wrote that the financial crisis was completely preventable. Card pointed out that congressional Democrats blocked any attempt to prevent it; when House Speaker Nancy Pelosi accused the Bush administration and congressional Republicans of enacting financial deregulation that caused the crisis, no one in the media called her on that lie, Card complained.

Absent in the daily-news narrative is that, as a senator, McCain tried to avert this mess and to get others in Congress to regulate lending responsibly.

Once again, the McCain message is buried, either by the daily political sideshows or by the brilliant way Obama’s campaign has “flooded the zone” with its message: A vote for McCain is a vote for four more years of failed Bush policies.

Some of the blame goes to McCain, too; he has been ineffective on the national stage at explaining his plan.

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/opinion/columnists/zito/s_595081.html

October 25, 2008
‘Finish the race before starting the victory lap,’ McCain says
Posted: 07:51 PM ET

From CNN Political Producer Tasha Diakides

Sen. McCain warned Sen. Obama not to get too far ahead of himself during a campaign event Saturday.

(CNN) — Senator John McCain attacked Sen. Barack Obama for having his inaugural address ready to go and said that Obama’s presidential preparations will be proven premature at a rally in Mesilla, Arizona on Saturday.

“We just learned from a newspaper today that Senator Obama’s inaugural address is already written.”

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/10/25/mccain-to-obama-finish-race-before-starting-the-victory-lap/

Take it Upstairs… OK!

Frodo and GoPumaGo
You know what they say about hindsight….

I’m not so sure that a suit in the Supreme Court would help us at this point because a suit won’t happen overnight. Maybe later if it comes to that.

I still believe we must get the information out to the VOTERS who will make the difference next week. I have emailed out Letters to the Editors to every newspaper in Colorado, New Mexico, and Nevada, and will do Montana and Wisconsin in a bit. I just wish I had the time to reach the East coast newspapers too.

I ignore the polls, they’re all rigged to favor Obama.

Here’s my Letter to the Editors that I sent out this morning. I’ll offline working on Montana, Wisconsin, and maybe even Ohio. The Senator list doesn’t line up well on the blog, but there are two columns, one for Dems and one for the Republs.
************************************************************
A Free Ride into the White House

There are numerous reasons NOT to vote for Barrack Obama, but the most critically important one is that he is not eligible to be a Senator much less the President of the U.S.

The U.S. Constitution is very clear on the specific requirements for the office of the President of the U.S.

US Constitution, Article II, Section 1
“No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty-five years, and been fourteen years a resident within the United States.”

Evidence now supports the fact that Obama was born in Mombasa, Kenya, and was later adopted by his Indonesian stepfather. No where is it found that Obama applied for U.S. citizenship. Even if he had, he would not be an U.S. natural born citizen. Marrying an U.S. citizen would not make him eligible either. Barrack Obama (Barry Soetoro) is an illegal alien. He has adamantly refused to provide proof of his birth in the U.S. and blocked all efforts made through the courts to obtain this proof. What is he hiding from the American people?

How did this happen! The elected officials in the U.S. Congress turned a blind eye or simply did not do their job. The U.S. Senate Rules and Administration Committee, among other things, is responsible for:
(D) Credentials and qualifications of Members of the Senate, contested elections, and acceptance of incompatible offices.
(E) Federal elections generally, including the election of the President, Vice President, and Members of the Congress.

These Committee members are:
Democrats Republicans
Chairman, Dianne Feinstein, CA Ranking Member Robert Bennett, UT
Senator Robert C. Byrd, WV Senator Ted Stevens, AK
Senator Daniel K. Inouye, HI Senator Mitch McConnell, KY
Senator Christopher J. Dodd, CT Senator Thad Cochran, MS
Senator Charles E. Schumer, NY Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison, TX
Senator Richard J. Durbin, IL Senator C. Saxby Chambliss, GA
Senator E. Benjamin Nelson, NE Senator Chuck Hagel, NE
Senator Harry Reid, NV Senator Lamar Alexander, TN
Senator Patty Murray, WA Senator John Ensign, NV
Senator Mark L. Pryor, AR

Recently a federal judge in Pennsylvania, appointed by President Bill Clinton, has ruled that the “people” have no “standing” to question the eligibility of Mr. Obama. Supposedly only Congress can do this.

In a nation founded on “of the people, by the people, and for the people”, I find that response very unacceptable. Many people are fighting to keep democracy in America while Congress is asleep.

I have already contacted all of the elected officials from my state and the Ranking member of this Committee
and asked them to officially disqualify Obama from the Presidentail candidacy. They have remained silent.

I have also contacted my state Attorney General and Lt. Governor, who is in charge of state elections, and asked them to remove Obama’s name from the state ballot. They have remained silent.

The Obama team is now taking his case to the Supreme Court to qualify him to be President in spite of what our U.S. Constitution requires.

Will you remain silent too?

Ummm… how do I put it in my “favorites” now? When I click on the link I had in my “favorites” for the new site it brought me back downstairs…

http://www.redstate.com/diaries/redalert/2008/oct/26/stunning-results-in-early-voting-in-californi/

Folks, Turn off the Mainsteam media folks,You know the folks who take their children to Obama rallies…. ignore the polls…ignore exit polls Let’s get out there and work… nObama!

NYModerate

I agree totally with you. Now is not the time to sit on our thumbs, wring our hands or panic.

IT’S TIME TO KICK BUTT!!

You need to move upstairs to find anyone.

TO FIND UPSTAIRS:

Look at the bottom of the page under SUBMIT. I will say “older post” and “new post”. The newer post is the UPSTAIRS.

ladyhawkke

Please see my post at #269. This came from David Archbol and the attorneys working on the state lawsuits.

This blog is becoming very spooky. Where are you Pumas??

Hey Pumas! Everyone went upstairs.

Click on the NEWER POST: Oops below the Submit button
and join the rest of us.

Frodo . .scroll down below submit. Click on Oops

bold

Sorry, the #367 italics should end just before the last line. Not used to this site yet!

Har! A guy called “Jeff” successfully gave $5 on M/C to the Obama For America campaign, using his “Fraud Boy” alias and 100% bogus info.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWfo5JNrQOI&feature=related

He tried the same on McCain’s site and got bounced.

ANDY MARTIN
Executive Editor
ContrarianCommentary.com

“Factually Correct, Not
Politically Correct”

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:

Internet powerhouse Andy Martin is interviewed by a TV network, watch for the report (we don’t know when)

Martin opens a new series of columns on Barack Obama as a result of the TV network interview

COMING MONDAY: Barack Obama and Islam, Again

Andy explains the difference between a legal investigation and a “TV investigation”

(NEW YORK)(October 26, 2008) One of the national TV networks sent a Washington producer and correspondent to interview me in New York today (Sunday) and it was a spirited exchange. I don’t know when any part of the interview will air, but they were asking me questions for over an hour.

So, yes, the “Mainstream Media” (“MSM”) do contact me, and I respond courteously and cooperatively when scheduling permits.

But I also learn from these exchanges with the MSM. The correspondent asked me a lot of questions that represented stale information about me. I asked him what relevant stale material had to the 2008 campaign. There was no response.

And, of course, I was asked for “evidence.” In light of his remarks perhaps it is time for what Rush Limbaugh calls a “caller clinic,” and I will call, “Talking Back to the MSMs.”

First, a little understanding about my background. Most “journalists” come out of journalism school, and they are trained how to react and report when the Wal-Mart truck overturns and spills oranges in the street. Similarly, most network “investigators” have to be good looking first, and journalists second. Anonymous producers do most of the research and investigation. TV “investigations” usually involve consumer fraud types of inquiries where someone has cheated someone else and there is a contact to prove the terms. TV seldom conducts genuine investigations.

I was not trained as a journalist. I studied English in college, and went on to law school, where I learned how to investigate and prepare a case. Unlike consumer disputes, there is seldom documentary evidence to confirm a conspiracy. That is why courts permit circumstantial evidence as probative (proving) and allow adverse inferences to be drawn from refusals to produce material in civil cases.

A lawsuit investigation is an entirely different process than a TV “investigation.” How do you “interview” people that have been dead, or their living coconspirators? How do you conduct historical research? Tangible evidence can be elusive; testimonial evidence is critical. Does that mean we should suspend the search for truth? If that was the case, no criminal conspiracy could ever be prosecuted as long as the coconspirators refused to talk.

I have forty years of experience. And, I have made news over the past forty years with investigations around the world, obtaining information that no one else could elicit.

So I approached the investigation of Barack Obama’s past as a preparation for a lawsuit and not as a TV show. The results are starkly different. While the MSM’s have “investigated” Obama and found nothing, or whitewashed everything they did find, I have found a plethora of serious questions about him. In addition, I have been able to highlight material that was developed by others due to my interpretive and analytical experience.

With this preface we come to the TV production of Hannity’s America on October 5th that has caused the Obama campaign to go ballistic with smears and counterattacks on me, and sent Hannity’s rating soaring: the material involving radical anti-American revolutionary and mad bomber Bill Ayers of Chicago.

Obama exploded when I presented the first reasonable Ayers/Obama timeline on Hannity’s program. I expressed an expert opinion on Ayers and Obama based on undisputed facts, circumstantial evidence and reasonable inferences drawn from the foregoing.

Could anyone outside Chicago really investigate Ayers without understanding the bizarre local culture? In what other city in America, other than Chicago with its culture of cronyism and corruption, could the mayor say that a mad bomber was an esteemed citizen? Only in Chicago.

Do you know of any violent criminals who have been praised by local officials elsewhere and promoted to high office? Send me the names. Chicago is unique because cronyism and corruption trump everything else. That is the case with Ayers and the Mayor. Ayers may be crazy, but he’s Chicago crazy and he’s Daley crazy. The mayor loves him because the mayor’s father loved Ayers’ father. Sad but true. Only in Chicago.

For forty years I have rejected, investigated, exposed and prosecuted Chicago-style cronyism and corruption. I helped send crooked Cook County judges to jail. The local media do not like me, because I embarrass them. Writers at the bankrupt Chicago Sun-Times go into apoplexy every time I expose their paltry contribution to the 2008 campaign. One moron at the Sun-Times made a vow not to write about me, and then broke his own oath. Pathetic.

I went to Hawai’i two weeks ago to ask the questions that no else one had ever asked. Why did the pieces of the Obama puzzle never fit? We were the first investigative team to land in Honolulu to pursue these conundrums about the candidate.

And we found answers. Obama is not Obama. His father was the controversial Frank Marshall Davis, who–surprised?–rose to prominence in Chicago. I did a story disclosing Obama’s true father, a claim that he has not denied. Obama’s silence is deafening. He knows we are ready for him if he does.

Davis may have been a proverbial “bad guy” in the eyes of conservatives, but he was well-liked in Honolulu. And he had influence in city hall. His friends are saddened that Davis’ son is not being elected president, and that Davis’ son travels under the false flag of another family, “Obama”. The whole thing was a tragic fraud linked to Obama’s childish mother, Davis’ existing wife and family, and Barack Obama senior who received some vigorish in return for posing as the father.

I should point out that these family machinations and convolutions are hardly unusual or unprecedented. People discover all the time that parents they thought were their parents are not, or that siblings or cousins are not in fact the relatives they thought they were. Families do occasionally lie to each other. Obama’s is not the first “switched at birth” puzzle to unravel.

That’s why Obama’s “father” was never a father to him. And that’s why “Dreams From My Father” is devoted secretly to Obama’s real father, Frank Davis, who did give his son many dreams and pointed him in the direction of Chicago, where Davis still had many contacts and longstanding relationships. When you plug Davis into the “puzzles” about Obama, there are no longer any “puzzles” or questions. The pieces all fit together nicely.

Which brings us to Obama’s birth certificate. Obama has lied to the American people. Lied. Yes, lied. He is lying as you read this. He has released a piece of paper that is merely a computerized print-out from a data base. We provided a copy of a 1963-style birth certificate to the TV network. We will be returning to this document over and over again in the next week. Obama has concealed the original typewritten 1961 document. The original document in 1961 was typed, not computer-printed as is the sample published by “FactCheck.org.”

Of course my revelation about Obama’s real father irritated some conservatives (and Democrats) that claim Obama was born in Kenya. I have seen no admissible evidence to confirm that he was born in Kenya. One person claimed to have a “tape” of Obama’s grandmother claiming to be present at his birth. Problem? Yes. The “grandmother” is not his grandmother, a fact that has continuously confused the media (yup, the Chicago Sun-Times had the wrong photo on its website for months) because of Obama’s honorific references to her as “granny.” Obama never met his real Kenyan “grandmother” and there is no evidence she was present at his birth.

Ironically, the TV correspondent asked me if I should “apologize” to Obama for mistakenly saying he was a Muslim at birth. I responded that Obama should apologize to the American people for lying about whom his real father was. He has falsely maintained that he is an “Obama” when he is a “Davis.” I am not afraid to publish the truth as we find it, even as it may contradict what we previously thought to be true. Honesty to my audience and the relentless pursuit of the truth are my paladins. And, look for “Obama and Islam, Again,” on Monday, October 27th).

The bottom line: we have embarrassed the New York Times and run circles around the mainstream media, and they don’t like it. Obama unleashed his mud merchants to smear me, and only succeeded in making me a larger presence in the campaign. When I left for Honolulu, Obama had not been there in a while, and his grandmother was already in the hospital without any noticeable concern on his part. He was planning nothing. No MSM had ever conducted any investigation in Honolulu.

The minute my team started digging, everyone started paying attention and, surprise, Obama landed in his jet to visit his real (white) grandmother. Wonders never cease. Miraculously, she had made an instant recovery by the time he arrived. Many people feel he used his grandmother’s illness as a pretext to come to Hawai’i. I do not view that as an unreasonable theory.

In closing, I have one question for Barack Frank Marshall Davis Obama, pretender president of the United States: why won’t you allow me and the American people to see your real, original 1961 birth certificate (in Hawai’i they called a “Certificate of Live Birth.”)?

Until Obama produces the original 1961 birth certificate—typewritten, not computer generated—-he will be a pretender president to the American people and me.

Only a complete moron would vote for a presidential candidate that is afraid to release a copy of his original 1961 birth certificate.

John McCain leaves a lot to be desired as a candidate, and no doubt as a president. But he is a real person. He does not have to hide either his birth certificate or his family history.

A vote for Barack Obama is a vote for a mystery man that lives in fear of his own family history, and lives in fear of what voters would do if they saw a copy of the original 1961 typewritten Certificate of Live Birth. Who is voting for this phony? Who could vote for such a phony?

Ask the Mainstream Media. They are shoving him down our throats.

Over to you Barry (Obama/Davis).

Obama Davis son of admitted Communist Party member??????
I am afraid what other info is out there…..

Please America vote McCain!